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Meanwhile the average femdom I've seen online (including the ones who act this stuff out professionally irl) talks about their submissives as genuinely less than human (even outside a kink setting) and believes it's functionally impossible to abuse them because of unspecified "power dynamics" And yeah, it is important to bring up the possibility of abuse in BDSM, but the conversation is literally always framed around "men entering kink spaces" even by the people trying to defend the practice, wh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/26 04:42 PM
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Between statements like this, the general treatment of men, and recent posts about how all Americans are guilty for Trump, it does seem like a lot of people who broadly consider themselves left-wing or liberal are frighteningly enthusiastic about collective punishment
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/26 05:29 PM
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That's true, I suppose, but it's the ability to openly engage in something for which you would otherwise be treated with suspicion for simply asking about, and even the simulated feeling of trust is more than most men can get anywhere else
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/25 12:19 PM
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I'm not even opposed to teaching kids about not mistaking scripted porn for real sex acts, but telling a generation of young men that indulging in basically the only medium that still treats them as desirable for themselves (which, whatever criticisms you may have of it, it functionally is) makes them a horrible misogynist sounds like the worst possible way of doing this
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/12/25 12:10 PM
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Yeah, monetary transactions are a lot more honest on both ends
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:45 PM
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I have yet to hear actual evidence of trafficking from a porn company which wasn't charged and then scrubbed from the major sites when it came to light. Most of the complaints essentially boil down to women who willingly signed up to have sex on camera for money, entrusted the decision-making to an agency, disliked what the agency booked for them, and also wished they could have been paid more for it - scummy practices, but wage theft and middle men are common to most industries In any case, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 11:18 AM
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No, they're just incentivised to use drugs to meet deadlines, like in plenty of other workplaces
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 11:03 AM
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Good thing this society isn't patriarchal then
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 08:55 PM
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No, they whine at the mostly-male government and law enforcement to do it for them in the name of faux-pity Unmarried men and women have existed in actual patriarchal cultures throughout history, finding the opposite sex attractive isn't a conspiracy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 06:58 PM
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Well yeah, most people of either gender aren't going to stay with someone they simply no longer find unattractive, emotionally or physically
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 06:54 PM
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Yes, hence why there aren't many of them on the right, nor would I expect them to be If the only defence of "kill all men" rhetoric is that it doesn't mean anything in terms of actual belief, it shouldn't be too difficult to ditch it
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:13 PM
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I don't really think it's that deep - to be a man anywhere on the political left these days basically entails accepting denigration of your identity, being expected to take the blame for the actions of anyone who shares it, not to mention the litany of double standards when it comes to even pursuing a partner, so it's not much of a mystery why more of them are genuinely just apolitical (the number of actively right-wing men hasn't much increased overall)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 11:53 AM
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Women's desires are every bit as transactional, they just act more persecuted when they're ever expected to make the first move (ironically, an arrangement that was brought about by the end of patriarchy, not because of it)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 04:30 PM
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If the options are continually being expected to entertain and amuse someone who most likely subscribes to an ideology that considers me an "oppressor" and therefore not deserving of any affection in return, or hiring someone to at least act interested for an hour or two, I am genuinely considering why I shouldn't at least try the latter
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:56 PM
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Yes, largely in response to those women who define misogyny as being hit on in a way that doesn't flatter them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 05:31 PM
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I think if someone is hostile to you, being hostile back (specifically to them) is fine and most people would probably agree regardless of gender - I don't think possibly being hit on necessarily qualifies as hostility though
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 05:27 PM
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Hot take: Misandry and misogyny objectively kill as many people in the developed world as each other, we just have an assumption that men who die in fights "deserve it" for whatever reason, rather than they are disproportionately expected to enact violence on behalf of both men and women and bear more of the brunt of it (being more likely to die from violent crime)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 05:22 PM
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"They did it to us first" is the logic behind every atrocity in history (for those who accuse me of hyperbole, if the only defense of your ideology is that you don't yet have the ability to act fully on it, all that is is a great reason you never should)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 05:13 PM
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If this were the case, feminists wouldn't be clamouring to restrict porn or sex work, for possibly raising men's standards in partners to basically the same level women's have always been at
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 12:50 AM
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Well of course, the only complaint we have about that is that men expecting their partner to ever proactively show interest in them or pursue them is treated as "patriarchal entitlement" while women expecting it is supported by both the traditional model of relationships and most modern feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:58 PM
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The concept of "centering"/"decentering" in the context of modern politics is baffling - like describing oneself as a feminist, ie a member of a movement for advancing the rights of women (pretty much always defined as anyone not conforming to the role of a man) implicitly makes men the central defining feature of that ideology What people usually mean when they talk about it is trying to find a balance where they can go out of their way as little for someone not from their ingroup as possible, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:36 PM
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How does agreeing to have sex for money make someone uniquely an object, any more than paying them for some other tasks?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:26 PM
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Men obsessing over trying to find a virgin wife are functionally the same as women obsessing over whether their partner watches porn - basically just unresolved fear that a memory or fantasy can outdo them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:24 PM
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Someone pointed this out on Twitter a couple years ago and everyone started yelling at them for "supporting slavery", as though most of them don't also understand that you can have universal healthcare without press-ganging people into becoming doctors
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/25 02:35 PM
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I mean that creating a whole movement to swear off dating men still absolutely makes men the centre of their project Then again, "centering" as a concept in modern politics is mostly just used as an excuse to try to avoid giving a shit about the perspective of someone not superficially like oneself
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 01:45 PM
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"Decentering" is completely meaningless if you're completely changing your life to oppose the group you're supposedly trying to decenter
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:38 AM
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The funny thing about the "hurting men's feelings" shit is that this is literally the same way antifeminists of 10 years ago described their complaints about sexist language If a woman uses gendered insults against a man that's no big deal, but if a man uses gendered insults against a woman that's basically the Taliban I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 11:47 PM
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There is nothing inherently "degrading" about performing any sex act
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 11:16 PM
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Fine, as long as women are also taught by their mothers to make themselves appealing by offering something of value to a partner (something that is generally decried nowadays as unfair standards)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 03:18 PM
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Women do the exact same shit as the Madonna/whore thing, they complain about how much they hate men while still thirsting over them physically (generally including the ones they hate), it's just less openly observed because men are still traditionally tasked with pursuing partners (an arrangement that women are generally fine with when it suits them)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:05 AM
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Yeah, even when I was a broke college student you'd be amazed how many Indian and Filipina women especially kept trying to message me on social media, many of them as a prelude to an attempt at relationship, just because my profile showed me as fairly tall and blond
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:25 AM
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Yeah, I agree that there is the possibility of someone trying to act out fantasies in real life to try and escalate the pleasure of simulation, but I think nearly anyone consciously seeking a robot to simulate illegal acts with understands the moral implications of doing those acts to real people and why to avoid it, and therefore consciously can hold themselves back from this escalation There might be a thin sliver of people mentally ill enough to not be able to restrain themselves in this way,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 06:10 PM
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When they start trying to act like it's the same thing as real life assault against them, or try to insist it's somehow responsible for that through vague cultural influences, it's pretty reasonable to care if you're the person being blamed by buying one Besides, those who believe that the emotional component is so lacking from this that only the most repulsive of people would consider buying a sex robot vastly overestimate the value of having your partner take out their existing emotional bagga…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 05:56 PM
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If particular women feel "dehumanised" by someone who doesn't automatically gratify them wanting to have sex with them, they can't get too upset when something without humanity is able to offer more than they do to that person
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 05:44 PM
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As long as the person using the robot is a grown adult and capable of telling the difference between fiction and reality, how is this line of argument any different from "video games cause real life violence"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 05:35 PM
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I've seen plenty of women try to weaponise virginity or lack of romantic success against a man when it suits them in an argument, honestly probably even more than the inverse
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 12:26 AM
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I think you are complaining about two different groups of men to be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 12:21 AM
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I'm not sure how the act of being (consensually) degraded in physical sex is any more psychologically damaging or inherently harmful than doing so in written form
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 01:43 AM
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As I tried to explain to the original commenter but was mass downvoted for some reason, it is the same reasoning as "video games cause violence" - the assumption that everyone except yourself is too different to tell the difference between fantasy and reality
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 09:41 PM
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Nearly everyone I've seen who believes transactional relationships devalue "real love" treats their own approach to relationships like an employer reviewing job applications (which is fine, but not really any romantically purer)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 09:06 PM
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A version of twitter or Reddit that lets you duel people you get into arguments with in real life - a lot more conclusive and satisfying to both sides
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 08:55 PM
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I love when someone gets mad at two different groups of people who are aesthetically similar and lumps them together in their head like this
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 08:44 PM
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Neither is someone encouraging them - if you're a grown adult you do have responsibility for your own choices
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 08:49 PM
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No, sadism can be solely physical or psychological - in any case, the only thing it has in common with kink sadism is the script, the aspect of kink relies on both partners trusting that neither of them genuinely thinks lesser of the other Porn is as fake as movies, unless you think the people in the incest videos (which, to clarify, was never my thing) are actually related
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 08:48 PM
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I mean yeah, there are plenty of countries which have decriminalised hard drugs successfully, not my problem
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 08:43 PM
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Not my cup of tea but ok
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 08:40 PM
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I admitted some things involve a risk of injury, but we do them anyway because that risk can be mitigated, sex is no exception. These are not "self-harm" because they're done with the intention of gaining pleasure for the participant, who you seem to imagine can only ever be a victim
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 08:37 PM
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Degradation is not a physical act but related to the emotional response to it, which is what movies and porn both involve - you seem to be hung up on obsessing over the physical aspects of rough sex, which do not inherently cause suffering any more than other strenuous activities. An analogy you dislike isn't false equivalency
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 08:36 PM
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I bring up anal because that's what half the screed you copy-pasted above was about, and the only act listed there that by the author's admission caused actual harm My point is just because something involves risks doesn't make it self harm, including rough sex, and you cannot willingly abuse someone - if someone asks you to do something and you freely decide to do it, you are no more at fault for it than they are. Merely wanting something is not an attack on the person whom it's wanted from
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 08:23 PM
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As I recall, Lana willingly signed up to have sex with someone who exclusively shoots extreme porn and only complained about it a long time later on - regretting something you willingly agreed to and could reasonably look into what it involved beforehand is not violation. However, people are generally more reluctant to watch stuff like that if you call attention to it - the small handful who genuinely enjoy suffering would be watching it anyway, but most would condemn it People routinely do acts…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:58 PM
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Those lawsuits were dropped as I recall, and yeah, when a social media post draws a lot of anger more people are likely to mass report it even for a stupid reason - in any case, PH bowed to the pressure that you wanted, and continue to host verified consensual porn that contains all the same "degrading" things you're complaining about, which suggests that most of the people who make that kind of porn are not held against their will (my original point) Kink degradation is not the same as real deg…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:53 PM
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Yeah, most companies take a lot of attempts at reporting something to remove content, that wasn't unique to pornhub - and the content in question was ultimately removed in all those reported circumstances How exactly does a particular sex act unfalsifiably degrade someone? If it's postmodern to point out that there's nothing inherent about your sexual hangups to the rest of society just because they vaguely fit into some moulds of "tradition", then postmodernism has a point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:35 PM
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If whoever made this post sincerely believes she was essentially raped, and wants everyone else to do something about it, why wouldn't she name the people or studio which did that to her, or which content to actually avoid? That would do a lot more to reform the industry than an endless string of anonymous pitiful testimonies containing already known information about the consequences of unprepared rough sex, which were already publicly accessible at the time this person signed up to do it, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:27 PM
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They do a lot more than most sites to get rid of it, as shown by them deleting more than half their stuff It's not "Orwellian" to point out that you aren't put into a lower social class or status by doing anal, your hangups about certain sex acts being "depraved" are not an axiom of life
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:09 PM
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Feel free to set whatever boundaries you want, but if an image or video ends up offering more of value to your partner, I'm not sure how that's the image or video's fault, let alone the person who found it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:52 PM
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Pornhub does have a "report abuse" section, as does, by law, every website that hosts porn - the number of confirmed nonconsensual uploads (in the low hundreds, as I recall) generated way less money for them than it cost to maintain a system of removing content Again, something reminding you in appearance of abuse or violence is not the same as actual violence - believe it or not, there are a non-negligible number of women who are into rough sex, and do not mind leveraging that for money; just b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:48 PM
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"Couldn't verify" isn't the same as actually hosting illegal content - pretty much every other social media platform received far more complains of nonconsensual or abusive material uploaded at the same time, even by proportion, but no one called for them to delete half their user uploads If your criticism amounts to "it reminds me of something bad therefore it actually is the same thing, and everyone except me is too stupid to take responsibility for their actions based on the media they look a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:56 PM
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People agreeing to have sex in a way you find distasteful isn't "abuse", and I have yet to see any evidence that any significant number of people who make porn are held against their will I agree with making it harder for kids to get access to but let's not pretend that rough sex only started or became popular because of it, just because that's where you first heard of it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:36 PM
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For once you have a point I agree with - although your insistence on only ever using "males" in contrast to "ladies" or "women" is bizarre, not sure if you're trying to prove a point or something
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 09:06 PM
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Yeah, it still baffles me how actual countries have tried to put this mindset into law and expect it to turn out any differently than regular criminalisation, something a child with a head injury could point out the flaws with Imagine having your laws written by pressure groups whose entire ideology amounts to believing women are uniquely incapable of figuring out for themselves whether they want to have sex for money or not
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:20 AM
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If you willingly sign up to have sex with strangers for money you're not any more violated than the people who take you up on it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 12:17 AM
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I don't agree with the aspect of redpill ideology of blaming women as a whole for it, but the fact remains that there are plenty of women who choose relationships with men who are openly abusive to begin with (and to an extent this is true with men too, the idea of "crazy girls" and so on), so the reasoning that male romantic unsuccessfulness can only be down to women having detected their abusiveness is false and almost exclusively used as a line of attack against any unsuccessful man who bemoa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 12:54 AM
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Great, I'll feel so much better knowing the person who attacked me was the same gender
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:27 AM
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Precisely my point, "there are positive and negative things about this" applies to literally everything, I'm not sure why this post was necessary then other than to overemphasise the negatives
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:38 PM
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Yeah, and that's contradicted by the rest of the post
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 09:43 AM
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If you think that having sex with lots of people makes you inherently lesser, to the extent that people can only do so if they've suffered, that sounds like more of a you problem than anyone else I am continually baffled by people who think that anyone with a different value system than them is repressing trauma, and that they're doing them a favour by telling them what's best for them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:57 AM
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I don't know, women were subjugated far worse for centuries before private property came about, it was the social revolution that came from the rise of private property as the main form of political and economic power, instead of feudal obligations, which led to the push for women's rights as much as anything Again, being able to give birth is not an economic class or an inherent angle of subjugation, any more than men are subjugated by being expected to bear responsibility for impregnating a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:01 PM
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Hilariously ironic that the people who complain so much about being reduced to their identities cannot conceive of someone not like them having been wronged in a way that doesn't align to their flowchart of Real OppressionTM There is no legal right that men have access to in the developed world today that women do not as well, they are no more systemically oppressed on that basis
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 03:50 PM
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Patriarchal societies existed for thousands of years before capital accumulation, and women aren't victimised by having the ability to bear children any more than men are victimised by being expected to provide for them and their wives in traditional society - both groups rely on their children to provide for them in turn when they get old, if women all went on a "birth strike" they'd stand to lose every bit as much as men I don't like mapping identitarianism on economic classes but this is lite…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 03:37 PM
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Feeling upset at something accessible to everyone else being arbitrarily denied to you isn't "entitlement", so much as having a spine
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 02:29 AM
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Yeah, I never got the obsession over partners' past sex lives, I'm perfectly fine being with someone who's pleasant, reasonably attractive (relative to me at least) and has had a lot of relationships before, as long as she understands I might not be as experienced myself
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 10:22 PM
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Sure, but how is it MORE disgusting to take someone up on an offer to have group sex with them than to make the offer in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 12:39 AM
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Funny to say that femdom is less generic than maledom, I've literally never met a woman who was into it for anything other than a misdirected revenge fantasy over the time a guy was mean to her, and didn't even bother to try and act like anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:27 AM
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And your argument is just as pandering, relying on the "modest woman" to be automatically more invested in a romantic than a physical relationship, or less experience meaning less pleasure. Every argument has to offer something to the person it's trying to convince, that's not some evil male desire. Also wanting to have a sexually pleasurable partner did not originate from porn
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 04:06 PM
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I don't know where exactly you're getting this from other than your various sexual neuroses (your belief that any non-standard sexual desire originates from porn) - if you consider that mutually exclusive to the emotional aspect that's really more your problem, and it's not some horribly unfair persecution that your presumably male partner actually wants you to offer something of value for their romantic attention Also lmao at sincerely calling the women who want something different from you pic…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 12:19 AM
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I've definitely seen women make those sorts of comments unsolicited about political subgroups of men or men in general, and it's absolutely accepted more than the inverse
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:22 AM
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Both the examples you gave justifiably received more backlash than support, and affected mainly celebrities, who are generally judged for their appearance, male or female. Some women do this too, I've seen them discuss unsolicited whether they prefer skinnier or musclier actors and project their own fantasised scenarios onto them, but that's only seen as less objectifying because it's dressed up in softer language, even though it is the same demand of someone else's body
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:18 AM
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Yeah, I've also had strangers make unsolicited comments about my personal life (including as a group) without providing examples of why they are particularly better, that's not an unfairly gendered thing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:56 AM
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Yeah, girls talk about their preferences to their friends too, that's not unusual
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:54 AM
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I guess I'll reiterate until people recognise this - I've seen plenty of posts here which amount to women calling men who disagree agree with them ugly and losers, if not baselessly assuming the worst about their intentions - I won't deny redpillers don't do the same but if you want to believe your ideology is better than theirs you do have to act like it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:01 AM
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Not mutually exclusive - if you're not into a physical relationship with an older guy just say no thanks, if they're pushy block them Edit: For the ones trying to get you to do sexual stuff before 18, sure, feel free to expose them as pedophiles
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 11:37 PM
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Still stupid though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 11:30 PM
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People should really stop attributing wanting a sexually willing partner or an unusual sexuality to "porn brain" or whatever - just because you can't imagine doing something for someone doesn't mean no one else can or it's some misfortune that they end up doing so
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 10:02 PM
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At least as much of online discourse is women complaining about men that don't attract them, or stereotyping the ones that do, in equally dismissive or cruel terms - hell, a couple days ago I got downvoted simply for pointing out that men with desires for simulated dominance aren't all loser neckbeards who simultaneously are an active threat to women and want to oppress them. I won't deny redpillers do the same but if you want to believe your ideology is better than theirs you do have to act lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 09:37 PM
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Oh poor you, an annoying guy asked you to do something, how terrible, clearly some uniquely unfair persecution that only you or people who look like you have faced
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 09:18 PM
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You're the one who decided to whine to other people about it, clearly you care enough
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 09:16 PM
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Not so much a silent majority as a minority who can't even bother to try and explain why they believe what they do (in which case I'm not sure why they showed up to a debate sub)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 09:08 PM
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For the people who experience severe debilitating depression from an inability to have sex, even if they're a minority of non-sex havers, how is it falsifiably any less severe than in the minds of those who experience depression from becoming isolated? There are people who can handle long periods of isolation without the same depression or mental problems that prisoners get from being involuntarily confined. Also we age-restrict plenty of risky activities If your concern is that I think women sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:43 PM
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The quote "it is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose" applies in those situations, but even that is little satisfaction when you've never, no matter what your worldview or demeanor at any point was like, experienced even a fraction of the physical thing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:09 PM
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Yeah, the thing that gets me is women being expected to adhere to beauty standards is considered "patriarchy" and whole ideologies have sprung up to complain about it, but men being expected to do so is treated as the dating market correcting itself, and complaining about it makes you entitled
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:00 PM
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Pointing out that the task of selecting, generally less risky in modern dating than pursuing in terms of social consequences, is an advantage that women have nowadays isn't "absolving men of their agency" "You don't NEED sex" yeah and you don't NEED social interaction to live, but it's pretty clear that going for long periods of time without it will mess you up mentally - it isn't oppression, but neither is having to interact with someone that made you uncomfortable (certainly no worse than anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 08:46 PM
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The same reason women talk about protecting themselves from unfaithful men while still willingly dating men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:50 PM
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I guess he still believes women are capable of being honest, which enough of them are
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:43 PM
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Like I say, if the woman hates him she should probably tell him, and look elsewhere for the money - the fear that she isn't is why the poster tried to come up with that scheme
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:35 PM
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Ok, fair enough - I guess a long term relationship. In any case though the scheme in the original post would be extremely unlikely to work
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:22 PM
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The transaction is a long term relationship in exchange for the benefits of a green card or more money, which is understood by both. If it's a punishment to be in that relationship, maybe she shouldn't have agreed to it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:10 PM
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I don't care what people's motives for marrying or even hooking up are, but deceiving your partner is worse than being open about the transaction involved, on either end - it's not the man's fault if a woman can't bring herself to be honest about whether she truly wants to marry him, or is willing to do so for the long-term benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 03:01 PM
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I know, I said that was scummy in another comment, but still no more so than pretending to care about someone to get a green card and money and then divorcing them - in any case I doubt such a scheme would work. My objection was to the general assumption about travelling abroad for relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:41 PM
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That "living" a fantasy is any different from simulating it - they aren't actually being economically abused as long as they're not held against their will
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:33 PM
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If you're talking about stuff like findom, sure, but keyword is "simulated" - the guys who do that are weird, but rarely in a position where they can't afford it Besides, trying to offer stable financial status as an incentive to date isn't necessarily abusive - when asked a while ago what they had to offer in a relationship, a lot of women here said they make a lot of money or have good degrees rather than anything about personality
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:30 PM
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BDSM isn't an economic thing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:25 PM
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It sounds more like insurance in case their partner tries to be dishonest about their intention to marry - it seems scummy but no more so that pretending to care about someone for their passport
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:24 PM
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This coming from the group who call women "pick mes" and anti feminist for being more pleasant or attractive to potential partners
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 12:39 PM
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So your dad complimented an adult who used to be a kid? Really not seeing the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:37 PM
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Yeah, and even here if you try to suggest there's a contradiction in the way dating is treated for each gender the "arguments" are just "lol ur poor and ugly incel"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:34 PM
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Half of these things are just vague gestures that society mostly already does - it turns out trying to shame a problem away doesn't work, and as long as men are tasked with being the ones who pursue a relationship, women are going to have to be ok with receiving messages on dating apps that don't automatically gratify them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 10:15 PM
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They can still learn to behave like civilised people, and understand that people who steal and cheat usually get punished
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 04:33 PM
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If no one else is going to pity you, you might as well - I've never had a problem with self pity, just the people who believe they are uniquely deserving of it more than anyone else and try to make it an ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:55 PM
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Having emotional baggage from a past relationship is fine, I just can't stand people who think they get a pass to generalise about or resent the identity of their partner because of it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:41 PM
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If you don't trust opening up your partner because of their gender that's fine, but I'm not sure why either gender is more deserving of pity in that regard
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:38 PM
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I'd rather find a partner who cums or gets please from me cumming or the act that makes me cum - if we're just taking turns being miserable why not hire a hooker
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 03:25 PM
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He's correct, looking conventionally attractive in the same way as all the other conventionally attractive people doesn't make you particularly exceptional in beauty standards for either gender
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:58 PM
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Well the ones agreeing support the premise that the men who disagree with them personally haven't "deserved" a partner who is willing to trust them and follow their lead on particular issues, rather than simply being unfortunate in dating the same way many of them have. They can only argue against a neckbeard stereotype when asked what exactly they might offer to merit devotion in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:53 PM
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Well neither am I, but if you're going to talk shit about a common part of people's appearances for political point scoring you shouldn't be surprised when you get lumped in with the former group
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:16 PM
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It tapers slightly but no more than most peoples, you'd have to be more obsessed than the guy who initially posted this to care about that sort of thing
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:08 PM
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As though most of the people here whining about men don't obsess over the ones that gratify them just as much
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:57 AM
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If you think that's a double chin your standards must be the Habsburgs
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 11:56 AM
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And yet you still whine about us more than enough
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:13 AM
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Blue pillers in this thread really struggling with an argument beyond "lol I bet this guy hasn't been laid"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 02:05 AM
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I love being lectured on what to "earn" from people who offer fuck all in a relationship and can't imagine that anyone ever willingly would for their political enemies
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:40 AM
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And what exactly do most women offer that makes them worth the devotion you demand? You're acting like it's some incredible gift to do the chores, as though most single guys don't do that themselves and have as much experience, or to sexually satisfy your partner, which from the sounds of it you hate doing
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:37 AM
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What, because they have the spine to go after what they want in a consenting relationship? No one who spends a sizeable chunk of the day willingly arguing with people they hate gets to call anyone else "neurotic"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 01:35 AM
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You weren't complaining about people who politically identify as dominant, you were complaining about anyone who has a sexual fantasy that they describe and which you dislike, hence the need to make it a personal attack, which still makes you more of a dick than any of the guys you're complaining about. That you think being "dominant" or "submissive" in bed needs to be tied to income or appearance, or that it's an ideological failing when it isn't, is precisely related to the OP's belief that fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:42 PM
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Truthfully, I would like a partner who trusts me enough to act at submitting, something they wouldn't ordinarily do, but who is obviously capable of intelligent discussion and disagreement and doesn't believe anyone to be genuinely inferior or superior - honestly I see more blue pillers than red pillers acting disingenuous about this to say "oh so you want a slave", because apparently they can't tell the difference between fiction and actual politics and assume every other woman is too stupid to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:29 PM
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I mean trying to make a political argument into a statement on people's dating lives is something I don't agree with - but yes, I do think my complaint would be better addressed directly to the OP
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:25 PM
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Anyone enthusiastically agreeing with the OP, from the looks of the upvoted comments
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:21 PM
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What, cause they have the spine to go after what they want in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:36 PM
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Also truly funny that you can't even try to say "I'm fine with kink things" without still needing to clarify that you think everyone who's into it and disagrees with you is ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:34 PM
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Well yeah, being the gender typically tasked with pursuing means you have to pursue more, it's not too surprising
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:24 PM
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None of you people can make an argument which doesn't basically boil down to "lol I bet this guy doesn't get laid"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:22 PM
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And what exactly do most "traditional" women offer that makes them worth giving most of your salary to? It's either doing the chores or being willing to sexually satisfy, let's be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:21 PM
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And what makes you think that the people who disagree with you online aren't "masculine" enough for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:17 PM
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And every woman I've met who's considered themselves dominant is just extremely neurotic about all their past relationships with men and insists on taking it out on unrelated people, but still, I try not to generalise about people I don't personally know Truly funny though that you couldn't even make it through "I'm fine with kink things" without needing to call the people who do it while daring to disagree with you ugly Also I love that you cast the women as uniquely victimised just cause that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 10:16 PM
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Sure, but I doubt you'd be anywhere near that complacent if a mentally ill man deceived or robbed from you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 11:09 PM
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Ok, that's your decision, and I'm not sure why anyone else should be expected to be any less honest about theirs (certainly as much as you'd hope even a mentally unstable man would be)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 10:48 PM
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Ok, well that's your decision, not everyone else's - but in any case, men are not to blame to a woman's inability to be honest about what she wants, any more than you're to blame for the actions of a mentally unstable man
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 10:09 PM
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Maybe they shouldn't offer to have sex with strangers in exchange for money and then act persecuted when they're expected to follow through on it (or just return the money)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 09:46 PM
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Well, those women can't be too upset when men would rather try their luck somewhere like Bangkok or Amsterdam where they can at least act interested enough for less
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 08:51 PM
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It's very funny how many people got upset at this post for accurately pointing out that sucking a couple dicks a day is less physically demanding than mining or construction
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 09:51 PM
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Conversely, if men in poverty can manage to avoid resorting to gay sex work, then so can the women who insist straight sex work is a uniquely terrible and degrading to make money
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 09:31 PM
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Being more able to empathise with someone does increase the chance of emotional connection which is a pretty big factor in sex - it has nothing to do with pity. Just because you can't imagine finding a man attractive if he admits his problems to you doesn't mean that every woman secretly agrees with you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 11:02 PM
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Well yeah, nearly every political movement treats nonbelievers (particularly those of the demographic they profess to care about) as either too weak or too stupid to know what's best for them - like feminists complaining about "pick mes"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:58 PM
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Men did organise against the draft though - that's why the draft hasn't been used since Vietnam. Still doesn't change the fact that it's not unfair to be asked to care about it, even if it doesn't affect you (just as a man should be asked to care about abortion even if it doesn't affect him)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:48 PM
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If they really don't want to be there they are more than welcome to say so upfront - it is not a man's fault if a woman chooses to be duplicitous for short-term profit. If you want the result of doing something (the money) that's not too different from wanting the thing itself (the sex, on the guy's end)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:43 PM
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Everyone pays for sex with some amount of time or attention - if you can get the same amount of satisfaction for less hassle I don't really see how that's a failure
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:36 PM
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Men are already generally friends with each other, even if the emotional bonds appear different than in friendships between women - but as long as both groups treat outsiders fundamentally differently (as in being unable to compliment each other or find similarities in each other's problems) neither side is going to be able to romantically connect either
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:33 AM
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I don't really see the problem with that - everyone wants a romantic partner, especially as long as the absence of it is treated as a personal indictment
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:21 AM
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Believing that romantic failures are purely down to individual failings is very much the root of the just world hypothesis - it becomes fallacious if you then criticise the just world hypothesis when it's applied to economic success, but not when it comes to relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:42 PM
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Describing something as "morally questionable" because it's slightly more openly transactional than you're comfortable with is very much the result of being mad. Besides, as long as the women are very clearly getting something out of it, what's the problem? This is the exact same mentality the post identifies - assuming you know better than other people who are capable of speaking for themselves what they want, because it's reminiscent of a bad relationship someone else had
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:51 AM
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I recall in my home country a series of high profile pedophilia cases committed by groups of non white men led to prejudice against that group - funnily enough, I do blame them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:32 AM
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A bit strange to brag about being obsessed with how other people agree to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:36 PM
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You people really can't imagine dating someone in another country without them literally being Jeffrey Epstein?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:06 PM
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Deciding that something is "morally questionable" because it's slightly more openly transactional than normal is very much the result of being mad
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:01 PM
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Describing something as "morally questionable" because it's a kind of relationship that strikes you as more "fake", just because it's slightly more openly transactional than the rest, is very much the result of being mad
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:51 PM
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I don't know why everyone disagrees, men are not to blame for a woman's duplicity
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:44 PM
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I don't care much for shitting on any ethnicity of women, but I've gotta admit it's impressive how much everyone ended up proving your point. Every response boils down to "women from developing countries are actually incapable of loving someone richer than them (they all secretly told me so)" or "any man whose romantic desires don't meet my approval (because one of them asked me once and it felt icky, so therefore everyone else secretly feels the same) is literally trying to buy a foreign bride …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:40 PM
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I don't care much for "movements" around sex or dating honestly and I know this post is 4 months old, but Christ, if they didn't all end up proving your point - no one actually being able to explain what is intrinsically bad about dating people in other countries. They have to keep making exceptions for "well, it's ok if you go into it with the good thoughts (not having a fetish, not making me uncomfortable by being too openly transactional)" - this is the point, as long as no one's being held a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:22 PM
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If they're that desperate they're more than welcome to actually work like the apparently non-oppressed men in those countries - the idea that every woman in a developing country is too weak or stupid to form her own relationship is far more patronising than believing they're all submissive or whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:10 PM
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I don't know, every comment when this thing comes up is about how guys who go abroad to find a (admittedly stereotypical, but literally everyone who has a "type" does this) girlfriend are simultaneously weak losers and violent sexual predators holding women against their will
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:07 PM
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Yes, they aren't stupid - they're actually capable of figuring out themselves whether or not they want to date a foreigner. Plenty of poor women marry local men, plenty of relatively wealthy women (as in not poor by any local definition) decide to marry foreigners instead. A partner with a higher income may be an incentive but it isn't coercion. The age of consent in most of SEA and South America is the same as in most of western Europe and a lot of American states - there's no correlation betwe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 06:45 PM
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I wasn't able to watch the video without a tiktok account - based on the summaries given here though, there's nothing in it that suggests she denies exploitation, just pushes back on the idea that the majority of those involved are exploited
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:49 PM
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I never said that, but when you're dating someone, even in a foreign country, you're not exactly anonymous
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:05 PM
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Merely having the ability to do something is not the same as doing it, and doesn't necessarily lend someone to unethical behaviour - it's possible for the wealthy to get away with sex crimes as easily in America as in most developing countries, but we don't make that assumption about every wealthy man in America. As long as those involved are upfront about their intentions (either to date or hook up), which they generally are when posting about it online, the inherent implications aren't particu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:56 PM
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Also there is no country on Earth where the age of consent is lower than 16 (except those which require marriage before sex, mostly in the Islamic world), which is the same as in most of western Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:33 PM
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Fetishizing by race isn't a passport bro thing or even an American/Western thing - pretty much every ethnic group does it to outsiders to some extent. My NE Indian ex-girlfriend used to talk way more fetishistically about my race (and hers too) than I ever wanted
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 01:31 PM
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Ah, so the people in Detroit just chose to be illiterate instead of working hard in school? How are they any less forced
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:58 AM
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As much as I keep hearing about it, I have yet to see any example of one of these poor, exploited women complain about the current movement of "passport bros", only those who imagine they're speaking for them - almost as though women in other countries, even developing ones, are just as capable of making decisions about potential partners based on what they say and do as in the west. I don't agree with the whole "Western women are degenerate" narrative, obviously, but there are plenty of reasons…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:54 AM
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Sure, but it doesn't do anything to help the latter group by blaming the former
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:30 AM
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