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| 1 | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warNo, the tables include other forms of ISV. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 04:48 PM |
| 1 | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warGood, thanks. Yeah, and everything I said about that still applies. You’re right, page 41 is CSV. Luckily, the rest of the studies are in the adjacent pages. If your experience is that women (and the majority of society) blame men for divorces, that’s your experience and that’s valid. But it’s not my experience, so what are we gonna do here. Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 04:48 PM |
| 1 | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warLol - the study is about ISV, which includes CSV and stalking, etc. Read the tables at the end of the studies. It says that lesbians report men as the perpetrators the majority of the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 08:57 AM |
| 1 | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warIf you’re using the data to support a point you’re making, you always need to cite it. It doesn’t matter if you consider it a well-known fact. The source you cited doesn’t even state that men don’t report as much as women do. It gives plenty of reasons why men may not report, but there are plenty of reasons why women may not report, as well. If it’s well known, there should be a better source than this. It makes sense that there would be an increase in the UK - the source states that there was a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 08:53 AM |
| 1 | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warYou need to look for ‘sex of perpetrator’ - and once again, you need to stop quoting the outdated study. https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs/nisvsReportonSexualIdentity.pdf Again - this is the current one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 08:24 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadCan someone debate me about something/anything? Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 08:08 AM |
| 1 | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warIf you’re asking me where it’s written that it was ‘done by men’ - you haven’t read the study. And you shouldn’t be debating the study if you haven’t read it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 08:03 AM |
| 1 | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warYour statement was comparing ‘gays, lesbians and heterosexuals’ and your conclusion was that ‘lesbians lead by a large margin’. If your statement was that lesbian divorces eclipsed divorces between gay men, you would have been correct. But you have yet to demonstrate that lesbian divorces eclipse others ‘by a large margin’. Why would you need the stats? Because none of those things you’ve said can be considered true unless you have stats to back them up. You have to quote data that says men don’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 08:01 AM |
| – | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warWhy? Because you’ve stated that the point you’re trying to make is that men aren’t always the perpetrators and that women are perpetrators just as often. If you compare the data from women abusing men to women abusing women, this isn’t applicable to your point at all. You’re genuinely not understanding the studies you’re quoting. This is about intimate partner violence, not a random person on a street. Yes - so you cited a study that had methodological flaws and didn’t support your point. Cool, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 07:28 AM |
| 1 | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warThe first place you linked me to was ‘Trotto Law’ - this is an article (arguably an opinion piece) that doesn’t link to an actual study. Can you link me to the study? The second one you linked shows same-sex couples have a lower divorce rate, and that lesbians have a higher divorce rate than gay men (which is not disputed) - have you done the calculations to compare the lesbian divorce rate reported in this study to the heterosexual one? The third one (CDC ISV report) explicitly states that the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 07:22 AM |
| 1 | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warThe UK study shows an increase in same-sex divorces and the majority were lesbian - once again, this doesn’t equate to the lesbians having a higher divorce rate. We’ve addressed this. You stated that ‘lesbians lead by a large margin’ - and this is simply untrue. The data you’re quoting disagrees with you. The second paragraph is meaningless if you can’t cite it - you can’t simply say ‘the stats support this’ and not cite any stats. If you’re unable to cite any stats, it’s your unsupported opinio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 07:09 AM |
| 1 | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warBut do you have data to demonstrate that women are violent at the same level as men, and men simply don’t report it? There are plenty of reasons that women don’t report violence as well, so this number would need to be adjusted. No one can claim to know the true numbers - all we can do is consider the most credible studies. According to a 1992-1995 study, 77% of lesbian women have had sex/a long-term romantic relationship with a man. So of course lesbians can accuse men of domestic violence, and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 06:51 AM |
| – | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warI meant to respond to this earlier: “female victims of same-sex IPV reported higher percentages of verbal and sexual abuse than male victims of opposite-sex IPV” this means that lesbians in lesbian relationships have been abused more than men in heterosexual relationships. If your point is to prove that women are perpetrators as often as men are, this doesn’t really help - this is comparing a lower rate of women as perpetrators (in heterosexual relationships) and a higher rate of women as perpet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 06:43 AM |
| – | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warPLEASE | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 06:05 AM |
| 1 | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warI also studied for two years in Europe. You initially stated in your post that lesbians lead on domestic violence ‘by a large margin’ - which is a blatant misrepresentation of the facts. You provided a UK study which doesn’t say lesbians have higher divorce rates, and a Norway and Netherlands study that say they do. I provided a US study that says they don’t, and I can provide a Canadian one that says they don’t as well (and a few more). So, don’t you think it’s a cultural difference as opposed … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 06:04 AM |
| 1 | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warBut in the studies I’ve linked (as well as any other credible one I’ve read) - men are quoted as the perpetrators the majority of the time. According to the 2016/2017 CDC data; gay men, bisexual women, lesbian women, and heterosexual women all identify men as being the primary perpetrators of the sexual abuse/domestic violence against them. With regard to divorce and DV, you said in your post ‘lesbians lead in the accused by a large margin’. I’m not sure what you mean now when you say ‘I never s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 05:58 AM |
| 1 | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warI provided the UCLA source as a direct response to the violence. I’ll provide a link to the CDC IPV source, as we seem to be looking at different ones: https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs/nisvsReportonSexualIdentity.pdf Lesbian relationships are less common - but that’s why percentages are important. If the percentage of lesbian women who are targeted is similar to heterosexual women, it doesn’t mean lesbians are more violent - especially because the most current data shows that mos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 05:36 AM |
| – | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warI’ll give a link next time:) but I honestly feel like it can be easier to find by just stating the organization/study name/year, because one of your links didn’t even work for me. That study says the divorce rate for same-sex couples is 1.1%, compared to the 2% divorce rate for same-sex couples. The percentage of dissolution is different, and is stated within the study. Of course, this isn’t specifically lesbians - this is because there aren’t very many large-scale studies on this topic. Questio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 05:29 AM |
| – | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warI did give counter-proof:) re-read my comment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 05:05 AM |
| – | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warI don’t think disrupting sleep is ‘okay’ - but I also know it isn’t considered in most IPV studies. So if we were to compare the potential 45% rate against other studies of heterosexual couples, we would have to make sure those studies also considered disrupting sleep and eating habits’ as IPV. And they typically don’t. That was my point. With regard to disproving your point, I mentioned the UCLA Williams Institute data and the 2016/2017 IPV CDC data - is there an issue with these sources? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 05:05 AM |
| – | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warI enjoy this type of debate so much - I’m going to respond to the second study you linked, and then after I eat I’ll respond to the first one because it involves a lot more typing (I hope you don’t mind lol). The second study states the range as between 17 and 45 percent, which is a HUGE range. I wouldn’t personally consider this very credible, and I especially wouldn’t consider the highest extreme to be credible. It could be 17%, it could be 45%, it could be 23% - it could be literally anything… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 04:52 AM |
| – | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warThis is interesting, as this is the only country I’ve ever seen credible research for where lesbians have the highest divorce rate (compared to heterosexual people, as the lesbian divorce rate is typically always higher to that of gay men). This suggests to me a cultural distinction, rather than something that is innate to lesbian relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 04:42 AM |
| – | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warHopefully I’m reading the same study you were - I’m reading a 2009 study by that name by John R. Blosnich and Robert M. Bossarte. This study states in its limitations that male and female victims of same-sex IPV were combined, so it’s impossible to state that lesbian relationships are more prone to DV based on this study. I couldn’t find any part of the study that insinuated lesbian relationships are more violent - I may just be missing it, please direct me to it if I am. I personally go by the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 04:31 AM |
| – | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warI’m unable to find the specific IPV article you linked me to - could you provide search terms so I could potentially find it myself? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 04:16 AM |
| – | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warThis is citing CDC data (2010). According to this 2010 data, lesbians have the highest rate of victimization - and 67.4% is from women. However, if you read the study and consider the number of perpetrators that are men, it reduces the rate of victimization of lesbians by other women to the same rate of victimization of heterosexual women by men. However, I don’t believe we should be quoting the 2010 CDC data - the CDC released an updated study in 2016/2017 that measured the same thing and addre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 04:11 AM |
| – | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warI’ll consider any data you can link me to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 04:08 AM |
| – | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warDivorce: The first source you cite is specific to adoptive parents, but I don’t believe it’s applicable to all relationships. The second source you cite says that of all same-sex divorces, approximately 70% are lesbians and the remaining 30% are gay men. This isn’t the same as the divorce rate - it is explicitly stated within this data that the actual divorce rate for same-sex couples is not stated because the number of same-sex divorces is too low to obtain a true rate. This is likely because t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 04:07 AM |
| – | LGBT could be the bridge to solving the so called gender warCan you cite the source that says lesbians lead in both divorces and domestic violence? I think that may be untrue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 03:43 AM |
| 1 | How should men interested in casual sex go about it?I think that’s a common experience, certainly one that I had between 2014-2020. But I feel like the popularity of redpill/manosphere ideas (many of which I consider toxic and I’ll-informed) and the prevalence of conservative ideas on mainstream media (at least in my country) has kind of forced me away from redpill content. Also, I genuinely think a lot of it does men a disservice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 02:30 AM |
| 1 | How should men interested in casual sex go about it?I enjoyed redpill content circa 2016 as a response to some of the feminist rhetoric which I considered unreasonable, inflammatory and sexist - but I feel like it’s disappointing that the sect of redpill that would provide such unethical advice has come to define the term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/24 02:19 AM |
| 1 | How should men interested in casual sex go about it?I never insinuated that you shouldn’t be upset by that, just that it’s not relevant as it isn’t a justification. I think you’re bringing elements of society you’re upset about into this conversation, but they’re not really relevant - you’re justifying men acting unethically because of negative experiences they’ve had, but enduring misandry is not an excuse to manipulate people into sex. Just as enduring misogyny is not an excuse for women to mistreat men. These things feed into each other, you’r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/24 07:29 PM |
| 1 | How should men interested in casual sex go about it?If it happens to a woman simply because she’s a woman, it’s misogyny. If it happens to a man simply because he’s a man, it’s misandry. If it happens to a man because he’s honest about wanting casual sex and they don’t like that - it’s just someone who doesn’t like you because they disagree. Whether they respond in an appropriate manner or not, that’s a risk we take - and we take it because the alternative is lying to manipulate people into sex. You seem to be very upset that some women may have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/24 07:10 PM |
| 1 | How should men interested in casual sex go about it?Did you/Reddit remove a reply? I will keep it up, though, so don’t worry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/24 03:42 AM |
| 3 | How should men interested in casual sex go about it?Anyone can weaponize sex - but as I said, no one is owed sex. And you’re not a victim of someone doesn’t give that to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/24 02:17 AM |
| 2 | How should men interested in casual sex go about it?So what do you believe? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/24 02:06 AM |
| 0 | How should men interested in casual sex go about it?…you believed you’re owed sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/24 01:36 AM |
| 1 | How should men interested in casual sex go about it?No one is owed sex and intimacy. You’re not a victim of someone doesn’t give that to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 11:55 PM |
| 4 | How should men interested in casual sex go about it?Because that’s life - people aren’t always going to like what you have to say. Of course, OP maintains the right to defend his choice and drop anyone who responds negatively. That’s ethical. Lying to avoid this response and gain intimacy with someone who would not choose to sleep with you if you were being truthful about your intentions is unethical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 07:41 PM |
| 4 | How should men interested in casual sex go about it?If honesty isn’t getting you laid - sucks for you. But that’s not enough to justify lying to manipulate someone into having sex with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 07:35 PM |
| 2 | How should men interested in casual sex go about it?Yes, if someone is reacting negatively to honesty that is on them. That doesn’t change the purpose of my comment, which is advising OP on how to act despite of the potential negative response. If OP is being dishonest, the issue is with OP - therefore, I told OP to be honest. That really is all there is to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 07:05 PM |
| 3 | How should men interested in casual sex go about it?I’m not sure how you got that understanding from my comment - OP asked about the best way to go about dating when only interested in casual sex, and my response was to be honest about your intentions. I’ve spent plenty of time calling out women’s bad behaviours, but he was asking how he should personally act - I didn’t feel the need to call out women in my advice to the OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 06:50 PM |
| 3 | How should men interested in casual sex go about it?I don’t think anything I’ve said has been extreme. All I was honesty is the best policy in response to a post about figuring out the best way a man looking for casual sex should go about it. OP admitted in a response to my comment that ‘lately he has just been going full scumbag and lying’. I don’t believe it’s okay when women lie either - I believe that people should be honest and accept the potential negative consequences. He asked a question about how he should behave, so I answered it releva… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 05:24 PM |
| 7 | How should men interested in casual sex go about it?It’s only bad advice if your primary concern is getting what you want (sex, in this case) - with no regard for the people your actions may harm. But I’m not going to advise someone to be unethical just to get laid 🤷🏽♀️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 05:08 PM |
| 1 | How should men interested in casual sex go about it?I never said honesty has zero costs - as I said in my initial comment, people may have negative reactions. What I’m implying is that the potential for negative reactions is no justification for lying to someone to manipulate them into having sex with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 04:26 PM |
| 2 | How should men interested in casual sex go about it?What exactly do you mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 03:42 PM |
| – | Why do women get upset that men watch porn?Not quite sure what you’re getting at - without citing a specific study, it doesn’t make sense to bring up correlation vs. causation. I wouldn’t personally assume causation where it isn’t explored, and I never claimed to. It also doesn’t make sense for you to accuse me of doing so when what I said was that we have a wealth of information on this topic - but good luck to you, too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 08:47 AM |
| – | Why do women get upset that men watch porn?Cultural bias may be at play, but that’s not reason enough to dismiss the multitude of studies we have available. If you can examine them and find fault with the methodology, that might be a more effective argument. I’m an atheist, and my personal hobby is dissecting studies - but I do believe much of the data we have on porn is credible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 08:38 AM |
| 24 | How should men interested in casual sex go about it?They should. Unfortunately that doesn’t seem to be the case:( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 07:56 AM |
| 32 | How should men interested in casual sex go about it?Do you care if you hurt someone who doesn’t want to be used for sex? If you do, I would suggest being honest. Hurting someone because you’ve lied to them in order to get sex and annoying someone because you didn’t meet their personal expectations are very different things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 07:47 AM |
| – | Why do women get upset that men watch porn?Yes indeed, social media can have a horrible impact on the brain - there are plenty of studies to back this up, I don’t believe it’s less researched. But the assumption that a woman having social media is attention seeking is what I have an issue with - it’s a social interaction. We can call any social interaction ‘attention-seeking’, but I think that’s dishonest - having social media is extremely common and serves as a way for people to connect with family, friends and community. Porn does not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 07:21 AM |
| – | Why do women get upset that men watch porn?I mean, the effect of porn on the brain and in interpersonal relationships has been studied - it can be very negative. The act of having Instagram is a quite basic social interaction, and I don’t think it’s honest to compare it to regularly watching porn. And this is coming from someone who doesn’t have an issue with porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 06:43 AM |
| 45 | How should men interested in casual sex go about it?The answer is always honesty. If someone reacts negatively, you’re mutually incompatible. But that doesn’t change anything - the answer is always honesty, even if you don’t get a positive response from most women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 06:39 AM |
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