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You're wrong. The only data that suggests that counts all self harm as a suicide attempt and for that reason has always stated that their metric for suicide attempts should be taken with a grain of salt
/r/MensRights24/11/17 05:02 AM
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In reality the average feminist believes men are inherently consenting.
/r/MensRights22/11/17 02:21 AM
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Yes
/r/MensRights11/10/17 05:35 PM
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But if you look at the honour system as a whole, most victims are men In this do you mean that acid throwing happens mostly to men? Or some other kind of honor violence? Im having trouble figuring out what you meant by this
/r/MensRights28/09/17 12:42 AM
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This study says 70.9% of cases where domestic violence is non reciprocal (meaning that only one side is abusive, instead of mutual abuse) the perpetrator is female. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/pdf/0970941.pdf These statistics below are more general. http://www.saveservices.org/2012/02/cdc-study-more-men-than-women-victims-of-partner-abuse/
/r/MensRights24/09/17 11:11 PM
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equal rights. Rather, we seek to expand those equal rights to include men. Most non reciprocal domestic violence comes from women. The statistics overall are further altered by the social atmosphere surrounding male victims of abuse. They are functionally barred from reporting both socially and legally.
/r/MensRights24/09/17 10:53 PM
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That makes sense I suppose.
/r/MensRights17/07/17 02:27 AM
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I honestly feel like it should be reversed. I'm much more concerned about the violent tendencies of someone who stabs/beats someone to death than someone who shoots another person
/r/MensRights17/07/17 01:55 AM
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Right. I just want to work on dispelling the idea that rape is a problem for women only
/r/MensRights01/07/17 07:14 PM
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To mute the idea that men are privileged because they dont get raped
/r/MensRights01/07/17 02:05 PM
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Again, we're side tracking into a conversation about rape itself. An implied aggressive manner is a real thing. Like imposing your physical presence even if you dont make physical contact on a woman. Havent you ever seen that IASIP meme about sex on a boat? She wont say no cause of what could happen, of course nothing will happen, but she'll say yes, because of the implication. Social definitions of rape dont always make it into laws. Especially not as fast as our social understanding expands. R…
/r/MensRights01/07/17 03:14 AM
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You shouldnt even compare that with substantiated violent forced penetration for which police reports are made. I'm not. I'm saying that women are raping men at similar rates that men are raping women. The discussion about "is engaging in sex aggressively comparable to holding someone down and raping them" has no place here. Obviously rape is a spectrum, so referring specifically to the most benign forms of woman-on-man rape and one of the most egregious forms of man-on-woman rape is pointless b…
/r/MensRights01/07/17 02:54 AM
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Have I successfully identified the disconnect in my other reply to this comment?
/r/MensRights01/07/17 02:38 AM
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I have made no commentary on non rape sexual violence. I am saying that both genders are raped at similar or equal rates.
/r/MensRights01/07/17 02:30 AM
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Yes so two different things. Okay, so let me rephrase and perhaps you'll agree. I'll replace the word rape and "forced to penetrate" with "raped by a man" and "raped by a woman. rape = raped by a man forced to penetrate = raped by a woman. In 2011, 1.6 percent of women reported being raped by a man In 2011, 1.7 percent of men reported being raped by a woman This is what I mean when I say that men are getting raped as often as women. If you dont consider female-on-male rape on the same level as m…
/r/MensRights01/07/17 02:26 AM
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Read your sources, and my sources again. Right, my sources which say in the years of 2010 and 2011, an equal amount of men and women reported being raped. The word rape here counting female-on-male rape. When you say women are raped 14 times as often, what you are really saying is women are raped by men 14 times as often as men are raped also by men which completely disregards female on male rape. I'm dead serious. You are latching onto that line, but the source separates men being "raped" and m…
/r/MensRights01/07/17 02:23 AM
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No, I didn't make it up. I compared two numbers from the same study that compared the amount of women who reported being raped in 2011 (1.6%) and the amount of men who reported being "forced to penetrate" which was not counted as rape in the alternate statistic. Consequently, if we consider being forced to penetrate "rape" then we know that the other number in which "women are raped 14 times more often throughout their lifetime" is excluding something that is pretty plainly rape.
/r/MensRights01/07/17 02:16 AM
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How can you not see that he just compared one crime happening to men with a different crime happening to women? I didn't do that at all. The source compared the amount of women who said they'd been raped (1.6%) and the amount of men who said they'd been "forced to penetrate" (1.7%) The other number about "rape throughout lifetime" is excluding being forced to penetrate.
/r/MensRights01/07/17 02:14 AM
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You've got to be joking right? The primary issue in these statistics is the failure to acknowledge a woman forcing a mans penis into her without consent as rape. You had no trouble acknowledging the 42/68% from the other source. Which naturally that would be absurd if it was 22% women throughout their lifetimes and 1.7% of men. The disparity would look more like 22 and 18. However thats not the case here because the "1.7% of men" isnt including female-on-male rape and the 42/68 number is. If you…
/r/MensRights01/07/17 02:09 AM
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You lied to people who were too lazy to read the sources you misquoted Am I arguing with a brick wall here? Are you like forcing your mind to ignore contradictory evidence? The source said 1.7% of men will be raped in their lifetime in a paragraph directly above another that said in 2011 1.7% of men reported being "forced to penetrate" a woman They put forced to penetrate there in lieu of rape because they dont consider them the same thing due to an outdated definition of rape which is exclusive…
/r/MensRights01/07/17 01:18 AM
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Didnt i already explain to you that the source in question distinguishes "made to penetrate" from rape? Again, you dont seem stupid. I know you understand the statistics at hand and what they mean. Are you that butthurt about the debate that youll forego that information to make a bitter comment? Thats sad.
/r/MensRights01/07/17 12:20 AM
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Yeah it is. I was confused as to why the image had a Marine but its an airforce base through and through. You can tell cause the barracks have working AC.
/r/MensRights30/06/17 08:18 PM
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Rape is inherently violent. I'm not sure what exactly you are asking.
/r/MensRights30/06/17 08:17 PM
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Air force hooah
/r/MensRights30/06/17 10:17 AM
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That was only for 2011, so i figure rather than nitpick over a 55/45 situation we just acknowledge that rape is an equal issue for both genders
/r/MensRights30/06/17 10:17 AM
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I really wanna die.
/r/MensRights30/06/17 04:06 AM
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Rah Staff Sergeant.
/r/MensRights30/06/17 12:59 AM
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Yes, the numbers are very clear. Men are raped as often/more often than women. Have a nice day.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 11:31 PM
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If you have a counter point I'd like to hear it but otherwise the downvote seems ridiculous.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 11:26 PM
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Yes, your mental disposition towards something can affect things in a minor way, but stimulation is stimulation and the body is designed to reproduce.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 11:23 PM
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This is because of the disparity of potential victims. Ignoring homosexual offenses momentarily for the sake of demonstrating the principle, if there are 1000 men and 100 women in the entire military, and lets say 1% of each of them are rapists, 10 women will be raped and 1 man will be raped. Leaving us with 10% of women being raped and .1% of men being raped. Its a matter of numbers, but not indicative of society at large because women outnumber men in modern countries.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 11:21 PM
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When they said that 1.7% of men are raped in their lifetime, they mean by other men. This is demonstrated by the fact that they separate the term "made to penetrate" and rape. Just below that paragraph, it says 1.7% of men that year were made to penetrate, so unless in the year of 2011 all men who've been raped who are currently alive were raped, we can see that the two numbers are distinct. So, unless you are proposing that being made to penetrate a woman you dont want to have sex with isnt rap…
/r/MensRights29/06/17 11:11 PM
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what are you saying is 50/50 Rape
/r/MensRights29/06/17 10:49 PM
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Being made to penetrate isnt counted as rape in that number. Just below your quoted paragraph is the 1.6% and the 1.7% numbers
/r/MensRights29/06/17 10:45 PM
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Because women victimhood is not unknown or obscure
/r/MensRights29/06/17 10:45 PM
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Im really sorry to hear that.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 09:51 PM
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This article puts it at 38/62, but other sources like the CDC and the Federal Bureau of Crime Statistics reported that in 2010, 1.1 percent of women reported being raped, and 1.1 percent of men reported being made to penetrate. In 2011 that number increased for both genders. 1.6 percent of women reported being raped and 1.7 percent of men reported being made to penetrate. The conclusion being that in 2011, more men were raped by women than women were raped by men. 2010 report 2011 report These n…
/r/MensRights29/06/17 09:49 PM
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Men are raped by women much more often than they are raped by other men.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 09:42 PM
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A man or a woman getting their ass grabbed in passing is gross and a violation, but I don't think we should just call them victims. They are victims, of sexual assault.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 09:41 PM
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Monterey was pretty nice
/r/MensRights29/06/17 09:35 PM
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Oorah
/r/MensRights29/06/17 09:34 PM
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Rape jokes arent funny
/r/MensRights29/06/17 09:34 PM
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Its a lack of reporting issue. Men could report being raped and just be told he should have fought back, or told that he should be thankful that he got laid or something.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 09:32 PM
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Men dont report. Theyre taught to appreciate advances even when unwanted
/r/MensRights29/06/17 09:32 PM
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Its based on the CDC report that in 2010 and 2011 the same percentage of men and women reported being raped (1.4 in 2010 for both, 1.6 for women in 2011, 1.7 for men)
/r/MensRights29/06/17 09:30 PM
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Which is better than the social perception that its never men
/r/MensRights29/06/17 09:29 PM
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You dont think that in their life time 17% of men might experience unwanted touching? Ever?
/r/MensRights29/06/17 05:47 PM
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Sexual assault is a very broad term that can cover things like grabbing someones ass or even an unwanted kiss. 1 in 6 is very believable
/r/MensRights29/06/17 05:44 PM
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Well think about it this way. 15 percent of the service has the opportunity to predate on 85 percent of the service while abiding by traditional sexualities, and 85 percent has the opportunity to predate on 15 percent. This skews the numbers, but in society at large its 50 50.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 05:43 PM
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Yep
/r/MensRights29/06/17 05:41 PM
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Its not a competition. We want to be seen as equals on the forefront of this social issue
/r/MensRights29/06/17 05:41 PM
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They do, but sidestepping the female on male rape epidemic is a problem
/r/MensRights29/06/17 05:09 PM
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If you have sex with someone without their consent how is that not rape? Forced penetration is rape.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 05:07 PM
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Yep, its insane. The whole country believes rape is at best a 90/10 issues for women and men but the data is clear to see that its 50/50 and that women sexually predate almost unchecked because men are not taken seriously as rape victims, and are encouraged to cherish the experience.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 05:05 PM
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Im sorry that society has taught you that youre sense of manhood is jeopardized by victimhood.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 05:00 PM
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Jesus Christ what a fucking monster
/r/MensRights29/06/17 04:37 PM
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About 1.7% of men in 2011 reported being "forced to penetrate" by a women through either force threats or intoxication. Compared to 1.6% of women who reported being raped. That was by the CDC and federal bureau of crime statistics. Women are raping men at equivalent rates that men are raping women, but men are almost entirely unwilling to report rapes.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 04:34 PM
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Thats the idea yeah
/r/MensRights29/06/17 04:32 PM
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I believe the 1 in 4 figure is rape, this is just sexual assault
/r/MensRights29/06/17 04:11 PM
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Believe what?
/r/MensRights29/06/17 03:13 PM
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Im junior enlisted so i live in the barracks. Sorry cant help you there.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 03:13 PM
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Sexual assault is leaps and bounds more broad and more common than rape. 1 in 6 is very believable. Matter of fact i find it hard to believe 83% of men go their entire lives without being touched without permission or et cetera.
/r/MensRights29/06/17 03:12 PM
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Yeah i noticed that, but acknowledging their victimization is important at least
/r/MensRights29/06/17 01:52 PM
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Its at the entrance to the gym so its very public, but its hard for the yes all men crowd to get taken seriously in a branch of service made up of 93% men
/r/MensRights29/06/17 01:51 PM
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What?
/r/MensRights27/06/17 09:35 PM
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Im specifically referring to full legal consequences not just the reputation damage
/r/MensRights27/06/17 04:57 AM
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I dont have anything to add other than that I agree wholeheartedly
/r/MensRights26/06/17 02:36 PM
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Youre a child.
/r/MensRights26/06/17 01:48 PM
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Whats a pua? Im not familiar
/r/MensRights26/06/17 01:47 PM
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You are making the baseless assumption that somebody who is so clearly an idiot thought that far ahead about the 2nd and 3rd order effects of her decision to go on fuckin Maury
/r/PussyPassDenied22/04/17 09:14 PM
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The intent is clear from the taunts. This guy is about to have his whole world turned upside down and shes laughing at him because all it is to her is free money. More often than not in these situations the money barely gets spent on the kid
/r/PussyPassDenied22/04/17 07:45 PM
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You asked if I would I gave you an answer.
/r/PussyPassDenied22/04/17 07:43 PM
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The idea of a deadbeat dad is very different from someone recklessly impregnating themselves and then going on a head hunt amongst her dozen partners to get a paycheck. I have no sympathy if she never finds out who the real father is and in my opinion it doesnt matter whos sperm managed to do the job. She should take responsibility for her decision to have a kid
/r/PussyPassDenied22/04/17 06:16 PM
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It is a generalization, definitely. Like all generalizations there are exceptions, but dyed hair and pixie cuts usually signal to me radical feminism, not.just feminists
/r/PussyPassDenied22/04/17 05:19 PM
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The point is shes gold digging. She has literally no idea whos child it is and is after money. She was denied.because clearly she had sex with more than 11 men and tried to sell him as "the last possible father" but if that were the case the test wouldve shown. So she lied about the 10 other tests or she lied about the number of sexual partners in an effort to make this guy financially responsible for a child that wasnt his, and shes seen here rubbing it in his face
/r/PussyPassDenied22/04/17 05:18 PM
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Age referred mostly to old people but if a child was hitting me id respond to a degree that helps them understand the consequences of hitting someone.
/r/PussyPassDenied22/04/17 05:15 PM
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I mean, unless she remembers this specific status and goes to remove it then itd still be there. Alternatively just screencap all the comments and ask said individuals if they remember. With 190 comments I imagine it was a big argument
/r/PussyPassDenied22/04/17 04:39 PM
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Its not like we're all lawyers with our moral codes. This is the comparison I always give people, if a man slapped or pushed you, what would you do? Everyone is different but if your answer was to rock his shit up, then the answer is the same for anyone regardless of size age or gender.
/r/PussyPassDenied22/04/17 04:30 PM
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Damnit lmao this is exactly what milwaukee is like
/r/PussyPassDenied22/04/17 04:20 PM
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What he meant is that the relationship doesnt change. They arent more in love. Nothing about their person to person interaction is altered by legally tying their assets together
/r/PussyPassDenied22/04/17 04:08 PM
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Its a common PP for men to get stuck paying child support for a kid that isnt theirs.because if you dont petition the request within a short period of time you lose the ability to request a paternity test
/r/PussyPassDenied22/04/17 03:53 PM
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This is what liberals actually think
/r/PussyPassDenied22/04/17 03:44 PM
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Rightfully so lmao
/r/PussyPassDenied22/04/17 03:43 PM
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Yikes sounds like youre scared of regular people
/r/PussyPassDenied22/04/17 03:42 PM
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The pixie cut and dyed hair tells all
/r/PussyPassDenied22/04/17 03:40 PM
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There isnt a culture in America that white people can hit black people but its taboo for black people to retaliate. There is for women and men however
/r/PussyPassDenied22/04/17 03:38 PM
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In their statistics they make a distinction in men who are "raped" and men who are "forced to penetrate" which sets up a male offender only perspective.
/r/MensRights15/04/17 07:19 PM
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Can we send the CDC some chocolates, or beers, or whatever the hell they want? Well we can do that when they acknowledge forced penetration as rape, because right now they dont.
/r/MensRights14/04/17 07:22 PM
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Because the majority of rape victims are women who are assaulted by men. This isn't true.
/r/MensRights04/04/17 05:55 PM
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But what about the potential women rapists taking the class? Also women rape other women not sure where you got this idea that rape is 99.9% male on female.
/r/MensRights04/04/17 05:53 PM
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Self defense classes are about learning how to be violent.
/r/MensRights04/04/17 05:49 PM
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And I mean if you have a boner you must've wanted it.
/r/MensRights04/04/17 05:41 PM
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The good thing is we can address both at the same time. However, you're on /r/MensRights and false rape accusations with regards to lack of due process is a HUGE men's rights issue.
/r/MensRights24/03/17 09:27 AM
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I wonder if they have that website flagged or something
/r/MensRights14/03/17 04:50 PM
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The phrasing is poor and almost intentionally invites controversy. Masculinity, attributed as an aspect or characteristic of man, and the word toxic, fully and undeniably negative. For all the time that I've seen it used, its never been a way of saying "this type of masculinity is toxic" instead of outright saying "masculinity is toxic"
/r/MensRights10/03/17 07:02 PM
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Take 'toxic masculinity' as an example. You can't take these things at their pure definition because they are almost never used that way. In practice, every use of toxic masculinity is misandrist
/r/MensRights10/03/17 05:00 PM
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I just don't see why sex crimes need a registry but violent crimes don't for example. I mean, why not make a list for everyone whos ever committed a crime? It seems like a redundancy to me.
/r/MensRights08/03/17 05:27 AM
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You are saying the same thing he's saying. The position of power over the student makes it statutory sex crime, regardless of the age of consent.
/r/MensRights08/03/17 05:22 AM
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The problem is that anyone can look at the list instead of it just being for law enforcement officials.
/r/MensRights08/03/17 05:21 AM
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It wouldnt have been illegal if she was actually 15 and if she didnt lie about rape nothing would have come of it.
/r/MensRights15/12/16 11:37 PM
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A 16 year old having sex with a girl who says shes 15 shouldnt ruin his life.
/r/MensRights15/12/16 10:39 PM
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Read "Between Men: English Literature and Male Homosocial Desire" A book about men. Was it written by a man? Also the patriarchy is a proven power structure in a lot of countries Agreed. Not ours.
/r/MensRights14/12/16 11:57 PM
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You have to look at statistic Like anywhere from 40-56% of domestic abuse cases are male victims? Unless you mean statistics on how many shelters there are for men. I found no data just by googling, except a headline that references a male shelter as "the first of its kind" back in February.
/r/MensRights14/12/16 10:19 PM
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Yeah I'll have to study up on the unbiased, intellectual opinions of trollXchromosomes and shitredditsays for my opinion on developing social issues. /s EDIT: Also I am from the third world.
/r/MensRights14/12/16 09:56 PM
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You can't draw conclusions based on your personal experience How about a collective of personal experiences from men all over the world gathered in a public forum?
/r/MensRights14/12/16 09:37 PM
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The patriarchy doesnt exist, but thanks.
/r/MensRights14/12/16 09:36 PM
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Men dont have more power, the people who have power are men. There is a very big difference.
/r/MensRights14/12/16 06:28 PM
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real feminists If most feminists arent real feminists, then your definition is wrong
/r/MensRights14/12/16 05:34 PM
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No, because the only shelter near me doesnt accept men.
/r/MensRights14/12/16 04:35 PM
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And you can say that till you're blue in the face, but it doesnt change whats actually happening. No feminist would ever say that they dont support mens rights (hyperbolic, some actually would) but none of them are making the same amount of noise or effort for inequalities that exist between men and women. All it takes for evil to succeed is for good people to do nothing. Inequality is succeeding and feminists are doing nothing for men.
/r/MensRights14/12/16 04:34 PM
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The proof is in the pudding man. Feminism has made great contributions to women's rights, but what feminism is today isnt as simple as googling the definition. Its politically charged, and anti men. And the components of it that arent anti men have shown no propensity for shutting down their misandric counterparts.
/r/MensRights14/12/16 04:31 PM
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Thats not how domestic abuse works.
/r/MensRights14/12/16 04:14 PM
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The only reason we need a woman to say things like this is because feminism has told us our voice doesnt matter.
/r/MensRights14/12/16 04:14 PM
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Cause thats how domestic abuse works.
/r/MensRights14/12/16 04:13 PM
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And they only accept women.
/r/MensRights14/12/16 04:13 PM
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Sorry I'd rather have my rights.
/r/MensRights14/12/16 04:12 PM
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Just a bit dumb and not important Yes, the lack of proportional men's shelters is dumb and not important. Thanks, Feminism.
/r/MensRights14/12/16 04:12 PM
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edgy brah
/r/MensRights14/12/16 04:11 PM
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Yeah most sources actually reported a number closer to 56% for men.
/r/MensRights14/12/16 04:10 PM
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Feminists, mostly. Lots of attempts at male discussion are shut down.
/r/MensRights14/12/16 04:09 PM
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What are you trying to conclude?
/r/MensRights14/12/16 04:09 PM
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Men popularly being viewed as unable to be victims of domestic abuse is definitely a result of patriarchal conditioning. It has to do with how society expects men to behave and react, and what we expect from "masculinity". Being a victim of a class of people generally considered weak and demure implies weakness in the man. It is seen as emasculating, in the same way calling a man a bitch or a pussy or saying something like "I'm taking away your man card" is seen. In a patriarchy, men have are ex…
/r/MensRights14/12/16 04:02 PM
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Or bring the male suicide rate down to a healthy level via mental by encouraging a social atmosphere that gives men a voice to express feelings of sadness or vulnerability without telling them it takes away from their "manhood"
/r/MensRights14/12/16 03:57 PM
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Its hyperbolic, but it isnt as if the existence of one male shelter is just blowing all of our minds. There are a handful. I have one 3 hours away from me for male victims, but 9 in that same radius for women only.
/r/MensRights14/12/16 03:53 PM
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But discriminating based on choice of words is not a thing. Not yet, thank god. Wanting to use a certain word is simply not a protected class. Studying Materials If I want to use the word "faggot" any school can have rules under which you can be expelled for it. Slurs and Cuss Words =/= he and she I've been wrongly discriminated against Oppressive slurs fall under hate speech. well, were you physically and personally capable of not using that word And gay people are physically and personally cap…
/r/MensRights14/12/16 04:31 AM
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Bud, you're in a subreddit where most people agree with you. In what world does that make me, someone who disagrees with you, stuck in an echo chamber? Having an echo chamber is fine, but living in one isnt. It isnt as though I only browse /r/MensRights and become aggressive and hostile every time I run into a feminist, and start cussing and using snarky phrases like "pulling teeth" and try and degrade positive discussion. Do you feel your manhood withering away every time some shitlord calls yo…
/r/MensRights14/12/16 12:56 AM
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Oooh, hyperbolic conservative doublespeak has arrived Its not hyperbolic, conservative, or doublespeak. Heres the definition of police an organization engaged in the enforcement of official regulations in a specified domain. So the school administrators would punish students who hypothetically refused to say these new pronouns? Thats pretty spot on what I was trying to say and its not an exaggeration not meant to be taken seriously, which is what hyperbole is. Its not conservative (what?) or del…
/r/MensRights13/12/16 11:59 PM
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it's because they don't want to be called "she" Citation needed. they are looking to avoid. Citation needed. Why do you feel that you can speak on behalf of all transfolk to encourage identity erasure?
/r/MensRights13/12/16 11:16 PM
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No its not. Drinking at lunch is a much smaller change than having pronoun police, and changing your college is a lot different than changing your job. You are minimizing this violation of freedom of speech by saying "well they can go to another college" So you would support a baker who didnt want to make a cake for a gay wedding? Or can the gay couple just go somewhere else?
/r/MensRights13/12/16 11:16 PM
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Only because you live in an echo chamber. Thats fine, some of us can handle political discourse lol. Anyways, pronouns are rooted in gender identity. I am a human being. And every person I've ever known has referred to me as he, and him. That is part of my identity that you're trying to erase. Call me he.
/r/MensRights13/12/16 09:47 PM
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Im not complaining about them, I'm just saying that those pronouns werent produced from fake news and have circulated in some extremist ideologies.
/r/MensRights13/12/16 09:22 PM
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Thats fine, but you shouldnt disrespect peoples gender identity. If a FtM trans person says "refer to me as he/him" and you said "how about Ill just call you they." is that not identity erasure?
/r/MensRights13/12/16 08:45 PM
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would be somehow impossible either Im not arguing its impossible, I'm arguing that its dumb. And you are moving the goalposts Well what was the original goalpost and what did I move it to?
/r/MensRights13/12/16 08:28 PM
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Thats a very dramatic life change to be made on account of someone forcing you to use new pronouns they arbitrarily decided were to be used by all students.
/r/MensRights13/12/16 08:27 PM
5

Sure, but a baseball doesnt have an identity. I am a he, I am a him, I am a man. Not a they, not a ze. Call me he.
/r/MensRights13/12/16 07:57 PM
1

Im not the original commenter. Im not moving a goalpost, your comparison is flawed. The windmills I'm making are the english language. Theres close to 500 million people, and theres no linguistic necessity that will prompt this change.
/r/MensRights13/12/16 07:57 PM
2

Sure, and you feel free to use those. You shouldnt force other people to subscribe to it.
/r/MensRights13/12/16 07:45 PM
3

Ok, allow me to rephrase. Freedom of speech is the main difference.
/r/MensRights13/12/16 07:44 PM
5

gender neutral language would seem to me to be completely compatible with gender egalitarianism. But I identify as a man. Thats misgendering me.
/r/MensRights13/12/16 07:34 PM
2

No one forced those languages to be that way, changing from a formerly gendered form of speaking. Its not comparable.
/r/MensRights13/12/16 07:33 PM
2

I see little difference between this and, say, a school saying you can't hold hands with members of the opposite sex Well, first amendment rights are the main difference.
/r/MensRights13/12/16 07:31 PM
6

Can you imagine not using Greek letters? Can you imagine not using the thorn (as we used to in English as in "þe Olde Shoppe?") All those changes happened naturally. No one just up and decided using greek letters was oppressive. The use of racial slurs has its own history behind it that explains why they are oppressive. He and She do not. Everyone in the entire country uses them regularly. Raising hell over "we can't write books unless we are allowed to use these two particular words" is the hei…
/r/MensRights13/12/16 07:30 PM
5

He may not be referring to the story. Ive never heard of OUSU but I know about "ze" and "xe" being used on Tumblr. I know someone in real life that recently insisted on those as her pronouns.
/r/MensRights13/12/16 07:23 PM
5

Do you make a hobby of trolling around in a MensRights sub?
/r/MensRights13/12/16 07:19 PM
1

Its not. Entitled people come from all walks of life. Poor people just as much as well off people
/r/MensRights25/09/16 05:43 PM
-14

Entitlement isnt a class issue
/r/MensRights25/09/16 05:56 AM
2

Why are they minors
/r/MensRights16/09/16 04:21 PM
2

Why is sex a crime at 17 in a single digit number of countries but not in many of our allied countries like France or Germany
/r/MensRights16/09/16 02:04 PM
8

It is if they arent being vaccinated for a serious illness.
/r/MensRights14/09/16 02:35 AM
8

In the eyes of the law it is completely irrelevant and the picture you painted of mature women sexually abusing young boys is not the case ever at fucking all and you should be ashamed of perpetuating it.
/r/MensRights13/09/16 12:52 AM
7

Inclusion by nature has an exclusion to highlight the inclusion. When you have a sign that says "x and y" are allowed we have to ask why not Z. What you are proposing is like saying a sign that says "Men's Room" doesnt necessarily mean that women arent allowed, just that men are. Thats not realistic, and you're being a real dick too, by the way.
/r/MensRights05/09/16 04:12 AM
5

Right, just like a sign that says "Everyone who is white or asian may use this restroom" doesn't imply black people can't use it.
/r/MensRights05/09/16 02:22 AM
1

Did we use the draft in Korea?
/r/MensRights16/06/16 04:58 AM
1

That is a completely idiotic. And I know you know that. Because you're either saying that the boy is a rapist or that she is guilty. Youre that biased in avoiding admitting that this woman had sex in an illegal and unethical circumstance. She took her clothes off, went to wherever he was in a private location, and undoubtedly encouraged sexual behavior. Unless you would like to believe some ridiculous situation where they didnt kiss eachother, there was no foreplay on her part, and she just inno…
/r/MensRights02/04/16 04:03 AM
1

And you oresented your argument in a baity way without just saying you think a 16 year old is fair game. Its not and even if it was, the student teacher relationship also makes it inappropriate and her laying there and receiving it makes yer an active participant in the sex
/r/MensRights01/04/16 11:32 PM
1

You addressed zero of the argumenta once again. I dont care what you think about age of consent, thats not what is being discussed
/r/MensRights01/04/16 11:01 PM
1

No one is arguing about age of consent. But she is still responsible for the illegal and immoral sex she had. The entire argument is about whether shes still responsible for the sex she had even though she had sex missionary. Teachers shouldn't have sex with students regardless of age, and the law says 16 which means she should go to jail. If you disagree with that age fine but you are pretending she isnt a participant because that boy was 16. But she knew rhe law, she was his teacher, and she h…
/r/MensRights01/04/16 08:34 PM
1

So at what age is it acceptable to lay back and receive a blow job in a general sense? How young is young enough that youll stop them?
/r/MensRights01/04/16 07:28 PM
1

So you arent even having the discussion you pretended to have. Your beef wasnt with the implication that yes, you are still responsible if you receive sexual actions from a minor, you just think 16 year olds were fair game
/r/MensRights01/04/16 06:01 PM
1

Congratulations, you're a grade A creep. And American law isn't on your side
/r/MensRights01/04/16 05:11 PM
1

Ok so you draw a line at 13? So you would stop a 12 year old then? Why does the dynamic change?
/r/MensRights01/04/16 04:30 PM
1

So if a 12 year old girl came up to you and gave you a bj, you're good to go?
/r/MensRights01/04/16 04:12 PM
1

Because its illegal and has permanent danaging effects on a childs psyche
/r/MensRights01/04/16 03:58 PM
1

A responsible adult would pull away while having sex with a minor, instead of lying there
/r/MensRights01/04/16 05:51 AM
3

So can men.
/r/MensRights28/03/16 07:09 AM
0

and forcing any shit job to provide that to them is not perpetuating dependence?
/r/MensRights11/03/16 04:19 AM
1

I value a persons right to make their own decisions. Including the one about whether or not they want to have a life after it's begun.
/r/MensRights07/03/16 06:42 AM
2

It's this simple. Rape is an awful thing. Incest is an awful thing. But that isn't even the bulk of the argument. Honestly its not even a very good one considering the statistics of it. Rape is an incredibly miniscule part of abortions and is only used to try and combat the fact that a child is a result of decisions made. But it isn't about accountability one way or the other. I could give a damn what people do with themselves on their free times. The stipulation is always in those situations, h…
/r/MensRights07/03/16 06:07 AM
4

Do you take the definition of Ad Hominem seriously at all? Your debate practice seems to be looking for character flaws in a person sufficient enough to write them off without a discussion. You're a loser. But none too surprising coming from someone who would let a human being die because it was more comfortable.
/r/MensRights07/03/16 05:54 AM
1

No, I'm not, and that was over a year ago. I was asking on behalf of my brother, struggling to get to work because he was afraid to drive his car and get in a lot of trouble. But hey you can just go ahead and dig and dig and dig into me personally since you have nothing else to say.
/r/MensRights07/03/16 05:43 AM
1

Except the difference is here, you are the one who stabbed me.
/r/MensRights07/03/16 05:23 AM
-7

In place of a life being taken, absolutely, 100% yes.
/r/MensRights07/03/16 05:22 AM
-3

Killing a child is not really a right that one should have.
/r/MensRights07/03/16 05:12 AM
2

I think it has partly to do with remaining popular with women.
/r/MensRights13/02/16 04:44 AM
6

But it's disgusting that weve socially accepted rape as a consequence of prison
/r/MensRights16/01/16 05:49 PM
1

I understand. I must have missed that. Cheers.
/r/MensRights07/01/16 05:59 AM
2

That's true too. This stemmed from hearing that men have social pressure to succeed and be manly because society sees it as bad to be feminine, which is a terrible connection.
/r/MensRights07/01/16 12:09 AM
1

Trumps ideas have rarely been challenged. His voice, hair, family, and persona have been the common line of attack
/r/MensRights06/01/16 01:37 PM
1

Its a line from Shortcuts and Dead Ends by MAYDAY. Cruz is my man, not trump
/r/MensRights05/01/16 03:46 AM
1

I'd rather die
/r/MensRights04/01/16 07:13 PM
1

Because 9 months of discomfort override 90 years of life? Who's rights are being taken away? What part of the constitution calls abortion a right?
/r/MensRights28/11/15 09:05 PM
1

I mean, only if war in Syria is the ultimate result of his actions. The judge said "Listen, you keep this up you'll go to prison, and this is the kind of enviroment you'll be in. I'm letting you off with a warning, but if this behavior persists the ultimate result is confinement, which much harder criminals than you."
/r/MensRights31/10/15 12:13 AM
0

I don't think that could be considered a threat. More the reality of prisons in america
/r/MensRights30/10/15 10:57 PM
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