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| 2 | Problems building attraction after openingThis underlines the importance of a routine stack. You really need to have a set of routines down that convey your personality, your wit, humor and most importantly, it contains DHVs that TRIGGER THE ATTRACTION SWITCHES in women. My guess is that you're opening, but not building attraction. Instead you try to go into comfort right away. The conversation dies, the women are kind of let down you didn't deliver, and the interaction ends. With a stack you eliminate that problem. A stack helps you: O… | /r/seduction | 29/07/13 03:25 AM |
| 46 | If you're out by yourself how do you handle that situation?Merge Sets. If people are asking you where your friends are, that's a clear indicator that your value is low in the venue. More than likely, you stood in the corner by yourself for far too long. Next time, open a set, then on the 2nd set you open, introduce them to the 1st set. and then a 3rd to both of them, and so-on. When you merge sets like this, Pretty soon people will be asking you "Wow, Do you know everyone here?", Lead the men, and the women will follow. | /r/seduction | 29/07/13 03:03 AM |
| 3 | Are routines and DHV stories outdated?There seems to be a lot of confusion surrounding DHVs and canned material. Even the concept of what a DHV is, and what your material should include. let me clarify. Your DHV stories are about you. They're about your own identity. You wouldn't use someone else's material unless you were absolutely starting out as a noob, so you can get the feel to create your own stories. You do this by taking an interesting story in your life (we all have them) remove the DLV's, and insert DHVs that flip attract… | /r/seduction | 25/07/13 10:35 AM |
| 1 | Mystery Method and PUA literature.I'd also like to point out Revelation as being extremely important as well. Its more up to date and encompasses more about Microcalibration, which will grow your game exponentially. | /r/seduction | 10/06/13 05:04 PM |
| 1 | I can't drink.. can I still play the game?My game is a lot tighter because I'm not hampered by alcohol. A lot of otherwise good wings fall apart because they've had too many, and it all falls apart for them. The issue of drinking never really comes up in the meeting location. Its a non-issue for me and I don't mention it unless directly asked.. and I also have a strong frame with my reply. | /r/seduction | 13/05/13 07:23 PM |
| 36 | I can't drink.. can I still play the game?I feel you. I don't drink, smoke or do any recreational drugs. I've done every single pickup in my life stone cold sober. You don't need to drink, and you don't need to feel the pressure from other people trying to get you to drink, but sometimes its a benefit to have something in your hand for plausible deniability purposes. And, in that case, you can order straight water-downed cranberry, pineapple juice, and watered down coke looks about right as well. with a small straw. | /r/seduction | 12/05/13 08:00 PM |
| 1 | how the fuck do you have a conversation at a clubChoice of Venue that suits your persona is a very important choice when you play the game... it affects your behavior, confidence levels, etc. I hate loud music. I don't dance either. and its waay harder to play this game with the loud music, but that's where the hot women are. Highest concentrations.... by far. But you know, there's always a quiet place in the club. Around or behind the bar, smoking patio, etc. Personally if I would have had enough compliance where she walked up to me, I probab… | /r/seduction | 12/05/13 07:46 PM |
| 5 | Clear intent vs needinessJust want to clarify that you state your intentions AFTER you qualify her for your affections. If probably feels funny because its not the proper play at the appropriate stage of the game. Instead, you can start to qualify.... ask her qualifying questions, and when she responds positively and qualifies herself to you, NOW you can give her a compliment on her smile. She's now worked for it, and feels its more genuinely earned. Bait her to chase YOU. its easier that way. | /r/seduction | 12/05/13 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Favourite places to meet people?Parties, local events, street festivals. There should be an event guide for your city or a city close by. network with people, add value to the conversations you have with them.. And add value to the people you meet, and they will invite you places as well. | /r/seduction | 12/05/13 07:18 PM |
| 2 | Is a bootcamp necessary to really jump your game to the next level?They're Solid, and they're holding it down. Plus, I connect with Mystery a lot. Also, things like microcalibration that you really can't get anywhere else. | /r/seduction | 03/05/13 07:31 PM |
| 2 | Is a bootcamp necessary to really jump your game to the next level?Nothing short of "WOW". The way he plays the game so effortlessly and has such control and mastery of this game has to be SEEN to be believed. The gems that come just out of a conversation with him are inspirational. Once you've seen him and the other masters in-field, you'll see the game in a whole different light. Nothing else really compares. | /r/seduction | 01/05/13 10:45 PM |
| 4 | Is a bootcamp necessary to really jump your game to the next level?Depends on what you're looking for in life. Honestly, if you want some level of mastery of this, to where you don't have to worry where you're getting another woman in your life, I say training is ESSENTIAL The proper way to play this game. The pausing, the tonality, the WAY things are said. The proper model to follow, all the phases to a proper pickup and how to properly transition those phases. How do you properly build a stack? how do you properly deliver it? How do you microcalibrate? The an… | /r/seduction | 01/05/13 08:30 PM |
| 1 | What is a good response to "you're weird"What if they response. "Ew no I'm not" or "you wish" or call me conceded Nothing would change. I would hold my frame steady... might say something like: "Aww, you dont have to act like that to get my attention. I'm right here." Then I would grab her hands to compliance test her IOI and kino escalate, then roll off. | /r/seduction | 01/05/13 08:17 PM |
| 22 | What is a good response to "you're weird"Its CLEARLY an IOI, and you should treat it as such. my response would be "No I'm not, you're just attracted to me." | /r/seduction | 29/04/13 08:57 AM |
| 3 | [FR] #-close through a better understanding of DHVI say for a beginner, this wasn't bad at all! I give props for you trying a kiss the 2nd time. (my spidey senses say if you would have leaned in for another time after that, you probably would have gotten it) I've had women take 3-4 times to actually connect on the kiss. (and one girl I tried to kiss her 7 times before I got it on the 8th) If you don't get it, just run a C1 gambit, then 5 minutes later try again. Which is exactly what you did, congrats! A few more things for you to consider: Pre… | /r/seduction | 03/03/13 10:45 PM |
| 1 | Calling a girl out of the blueNope. Nothing wrong with giving her a call at all! I call cold numbers every once in a while. There's always women going spare, i.e. ones I didn't manage to connect with for one reason or another. So give her a call, you already have her number and you really have nothing to lose other than a girl you don't speak to anyway. | /r/seduction | 14/02/13 11:14 PM |
| 2 | I have a relationship worthy hot girl's phone number. I can't think straight. What now. What the fuck do I text her.A number is only worth the quality of the initial pickup. Its just a time bridge to another place you two can meet again. First off, more details: How did you get the number? Was there attraction? Qualification? Kino? comfort? grounding? More details to flesh this out would help tremendously. But since its already done: Its nearly always better to call than to text. I understand some women wont pickup and you're forced to play the text game, but the reason we get phone numbers is to get to a pla… | /r/seduction | 04/02/13 03:23 AM |
| 2 | Asian Women?Instead of accosting the poor girl when she leaves or 'drifts away', and then having her friends drag her away when they see the whole thing unfolding, why not have her friends help you? For example: Lets say you saw her leave her friends, and you went in to her group, ran an opener, demonstrated some value, came across as non-needy and without an agenda. You're just a fun guy having a good vibe with people. Now she returns. You know them well enough they can now Introduce her to you. You alread… | /r/seduction | 03/02/13 09:49 PM |
| 3 | How do deal with groups?Read the Mystery Method. Group theory tells you all about how to handle women in groups. | /r/seduction | 03/02/13 07:00 PM |
| 2 | trouble with follow up/flaking after #-close (2 mini-FR's)Problems with your day2's are almost always with the quality of the initial pickup. A solid pickup has elements of Demonstrating higher value, qualification and get into comfort building. In both cases: Did you just have a conversation for all that time or was there more? Kino? hand holding? kissing? at the least, solid pickup incorporates: Attraction Did you hit all the attraction switches? did you demonstrate you were a high value male to her? Qualification Does she feel like you like her for … | /r/seduction | 02/02/13 11:48 PM |
| 3 | How tips/tricks to figure out who are taken at a party without talking to every girl/looking despite around others?When you are at a party, how can you figure out with girls are taken without just standing in the background for a long while just observing or literally hitting on every girl there? How can you do that without losing social value/respect/looking despite? Indirect Game. This is what Indirect game is all about, how to save face in the even she's taken/not attracted to you etc. In that case the interaction wont go anywhere on that level, and you were just having a good conversation. some great 'on… | /r/seduction | 02/02/13 11:12 PM |
| 1 | How can you approach after making multiple loose eye contact?Keep the eye contact. don't look away. then walk up to her.. Say... "You can't look at me like that and not say anything..." | /r/seduction | 02/02/13 10:58 PM |
| 12 | I may have invited two dates to the same clubExcellent. I do this as often as possible. Have them both meet. Introduce them to each other. Let them get acquainted with each other if you need to roll off. You can also come back in-set with another girl from another set you've opened on your way back from your roll-off. Now, introduce her to the group. This hits the pre-selection attraction switch pretty hard, plus the jealousy will go through the roof. Don't get overly sexual with them at this juncture, though. It can kill all the attractio… | /r/seduction | 02/02/13 10:50 PM |
| 3 | The Mystery MethodThere are (or were) so many guys out there opening sets over their shoulders and saying "Guys, Quick Question, I need a female opinion..." that it's now as tacky as "What's your sign?" Nowadays its microcalibrated non-opinion openers. Its so smooth, fluid and natural that you can watch Mystery open and run an entire room and not even pick up on it. You thought he was just talking to friends. At least I did. Plus, a lot of the old openers still work, The key is in the DELIVERY. | /r/seduction | 31/01/13 07:45 PM |
| 1 | The Mystery MethodAll I'd like to know is, has anyone else read The Mystery Method (or any other PUA books) and had any amount of success with what you learned or is it all just b.s. it is NOT BS. If you're local, we can go out and I'll show you that its real. I've been doing Mystery Method for a bit over 2 years now. and I do it right. Been trained the right way. My Recommendations are to Read the Mystery method book From Cover-to-cover. Not just the first few chapters. Read and internalize everything. After the… | /r/seduction | 31/01/13 07:36 PM |
| 2 | I'm a commuter at college, how can I get the girl to my S1-3 location?Mystery. | /r/seduction | 29/01/13 01:30 PM |
| 3 | I'm a commuter at college, how can I get the girl to my S1-3 location?How much time in comfort do i spend before phase shifting to my seduction location? 4-10 hours of comfort. Its usually done in about 7 hours. add up the time like a lawyer would. Phone time counts, but its best to be in person. Be sure to add these in comfort: Grounding Sequence. Stories about where you came from and how you came to be. Vulnerability story. Things you dont tell ordinary people. Just her. see if she'll share her stories as well After Comfort you may get LMR. But if you do the abo… | /r/seduction | 28/01/13 11:22 PM |
| 2 | AA - Alone Anxiety, How should I get over it??as Em0n3y said, Walking laps is a bad idea. That lowers your value. Drastically. I did waay too much of that before I was pointed into the light. You want to be in set as much as possible. A wing gives you a great base to operate from. He's there to help you get the girl. That's the best option. If you're by yourself, then you have to make friends to set with. Consider everyone around the bar someone you need to meet, You're must making your rounds for the night, and if you get blown out, or the… | /r/seduction | 26/01/13 10:21 PM |
| 1 | I'm fine chatting with people in 1-2sets as soon as I enter bigger groups it's like I disappear.I don't know what to say.How do I change that?Try Locking in Cutting Threads. and Having higher energy. When you're locked in you can project to the whole set better and get them to listen to you longer. If you have an interrupt, and the set turns from a 2 set to a 4 set for instance when her friends rejoin.. .. ask for an introduction. "introduce me to your friends.." etc. then you can switch to a different thread.. "OH GUYS! , you check out that new bar down the street? I just saw the lead singer of that 80s band.. btw.. running poll, wou… | /r/seduction | 26/01/13 01:09 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone else feel like some of the better known PUAs are a little bit full of shit?I don't blame you at all for questioning it. 2 years ago I wondered that exact same thing. Specifically, I wondered if seeing the Masters in-field in The Pickup Artist show was in any way staged or setup. I wondered if they were actors, I wondered if it was real... Then I found out for myself. I saw it firsthand. For myself. Its real. They're real. Its all very real. The Dynamic and environment is so unbelievable to most of us that we don't see how it can be real. A lot of it is the result of hi… | /r/seduction | 25/01/13 11:32 PM |
| 1 | Anybody know any quick and easy games to escalate kino?baiting her to chase you is a bodylanguage more than spoken language. The whole concept is more than I can really reply to.. but.. basically leaving her slightly devalidated, and wanting more. That's the perfect spot of where you should be. balance your IOIs to her with IOD calibrators for example: while qualifying you could say "You're a gogo dancer? OMG.. I LOVE fishnets and fuzzy boots...... I can't even talk to you now!" and you turn away. waiting for HER to re-engage you into the conversati… | /r/seduction | 23/01/13 10:28 PM |
| 1 | I'm looking for a PUA coach or public speaker who can come do a paid presentation in the Tampa area.I consider myself a decent Pickup Artist. I've been trained by Discovery, Lovedrop, Matador, Mehow and of course, Mystery. I've had Good in-field time with Mystery. He builds solid Pickup Artists. I know the game, and I live in the area, and I'm not full of shit. lets talk. | /r/seduction | 23/01/13 10:07 PM |
| 2 | Anybody know any quick and easy games to escalate kino?I don't like that. It comes across as if you have an agenda. You're telling her she has all the value and you're trying to trick her into giving it to you. That's a bad frame to be in. instead, why don't you have value to give to her? Bait her to chase you. btw, kino routines generally have to be shown or demonstrated to get completely. Search Youtube for some good ones. | /r/seduction | 23/01/13 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Peacocking- does anyone actually do it?not much. Just act like you were reminded by something, pull out a piece of paper or your phone, look at what routine you need, and put it back in your pocket. easy. they might even think you got a text or something. you're not going to mention it, because you just have a fresh story you've been reminded of.. | /r/seduction | 22/01/13 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Seddit, you can recommend up to 3 books OR a DVD/Box set. What do you recommend an AFC to use to learn pickup?I wholeheartedly recommend: Venusian Arts Handbook/Mystery Method and after you've digested that. Revelation. Read those books in their entirety, understand all the concepts, then go out and practice for 3-4 months until you plateau. and if you really want to go further, there's also Training. The Masters WILL build you into a solid pickup artist. | /r/seduction | 22/01/13 01:02 PM |
| 2 | Peacocking- does anyone actually do it?Mystery hasn't done goth in a while... he's mixes it up. Nowadays its the hippie look, the Rockstar (what he looked like in the pickup artist seasons) the insect, and the suit. a big, tall suit. with a bizzare hat of course. His more outlandish peacocking generally blows him out with anything less than a 9. But women who are 9's flock to him like bugs to a buglight. Think about it. He can stand the social pressure of being the center of attention - just like a beautiful woman. He chooses his sty… | /r/seduction | 22/01/13 08:03 AM |
| 2 | Peacocking- does anyone actually do it?Not at all. You can actually pull it out in front of them if you need to. say "hold on" .. pull it out.. read what you need, put it back in your pocket. "ah, and that reminds me..." stack forward. I have my entire stack on my phone. I pull it out if I need it (which is less and less nowadays) | /r/seduction | 21/01/13 09:44 PM |
| 1 | Peacocking- does anyone actually do it?Peacocking is 1% of the game. You have to have your game down, reguardless. The 3 second rule doesn't really allow me to think of anything especially clever. This is why we have material, a couple openers or so, so you don't have to think about what to say. you already have it memorized. Peacocking can also be a double-edged sword. You can go to ridiculous extremes like Mystery, but if you still have problems with opening, you can look like the biggest loser there, all in the corner by yourself.… | /r/seduction | 21/01/13 09:23 PM |
| 2 | How often do you encounter a girl who knows about seduction techniques, and calls you out for being a PUA?Its not going to happen. Only guys have ever pointed it out, and that was when Pickup terminology was yelled out pretty loudly, and I can count the times thats happened on one hand. And I'm at 1,000 sets or so of experience now. If it really bothers you, use more obscure openers/routines and get down the DELIVERY properly. Then you can make your own routines... I really don't even use routines anymore. no need, really. I understand the structure and delivery. THE ONLY TIME a girl has ever pointe… | /r/seduction | 20/01/13 07:48 PM |
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