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Equality has to consider the individual circumstances. Go too far down that road though and you're just doing the Animal Farm thing where some animals are more equal than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:30 PM
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When do I get paid to be the provider? I demand a salary for having to maintain a salary!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 04:44 AM
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"My husband hired a hottie SEA woman to be a scab and the worst part is the kids like her more than me! Damn you patriarchy!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 01:48 AM
4

The original message was "git gud". The message evolved into "this game sucks". In large part due to humanity's propensity to be lazy and blame everyone else for their failures, but also because... the game kinda sucks now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:56 PM
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The Red Pill is a date rapist's fever dream. By the logic you've just used, feminism is a misandrist's murder fantasy because Valerie Solanas wrote the SCUM manifesto.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:47 PM
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That's a dishonest and also kind of disturbing interpretation of what the randomly selected orphan represents.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:15 AM
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Because they have a sense of humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 02:09 AM
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Because "biological differences" wouldn't be your objection to being obligated to provide for the random orphan.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 01:23 AM
2

Why does one side get to sit back, do zero initiation, filter through a pile of options they didn't work for, and still get framed as the selective ones? Same reason the 4B women claim that they're "opting out" of continuing to wait passively for a man to show up and do all the heavy lifting in getting a relationship off the ground. An abject dissociation from reality for the sake of keeping their egos soothed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 01:06 AM
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I always found it incredibly offputting when a woman acted like that by just showing up, she was offering something. Or when they act like the time and money they spend on makeup is a cost that men should feel obligated to reimburse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:52 AM
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The premise is bodily autonomy. Being forced against your will to use your body for the sake of others is a violation of one's bodily autonomy, yes or no? If yes, then please explain why you think men being forced against their wills to use their bodies for the sake of others is exempt from this premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:51 PM
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She’s the one who has to suffer through a year of pain Did she have to or did she choose to? One would be a noteworthy counterpoint, the other would not. potential death from childbirth Approximately 0.004% of pregnant women die from complications related to childbirth in the U.S.. For perspective, that's roughly on par with people who die from auto-erotic asphyxiation, and also utterly dwarfed by workplace deaths, particularly the male-dominated variety. And when it’s born, she ALSO has to take…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:21 PM
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Far be it from me to interrupt your fantasizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:52 PM
-5

Feel free to point out why you think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:49 PM
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Financial provision is not the same burden as being a vessel for a living and growing baby. Being obligated to use your body to generate financial provisions and being obligated to use your body to gestate a baby are different examples of the same premise. You didn't answer the question you quoted. Please do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:44 PM
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It fails? She keeps the baby? That’s is the biological reality of having sex. She keeps it, she aborts it, or she abandons it. In any case, her autonomy is preserved - even if it's at the expense of others'. men do their damndest to escape any risk and responsibility at all Actually they just look at the very same "bodily autonomy" argument women use to escape those things and apply it to being forced to use their own bodies to support what is entirely a woman's choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:32 PM
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Already addressed this with another poster. Feel free to address it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:58 PM
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Would you be OK with the idea that in exchange for getting an abortion to preserve your bodily autonomy that you are now obligated to financially provide for a randomly selected orphan for the next 18 years? If not, then biological differences have nothing to do with this double-standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:26 PM
5

What’s not a scam about sugar dating? When the service paid for is actually received.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:19 PM
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choosing if/when they want kids If women would demand this for themselves but deny it for men (see how unpopular the idea of "paper abortions" is with the women around here and/or the downvotes this very post got from them) then it's not unreasonable that some might interpret this to be a little bit self-centered and narcissistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 03:15 PM
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Ok. And what percentage of men would you say are violent criminals?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 11:44 PM
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Seems reasonable to conclude that the ones who can recognize and acknowledge the patterns of their own animal natures are probably more rational than the ones who would deny it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 02:16 PM
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I will never have any qualms employing plausible deniability against plausible deniability. If she makes her own intentions crystal clear then so too shall I be crystal clear with mine. But apparently we live in a world where a woman can be in an open relationship with a man she's never discussed marriage with and when he doesn't end up marrying her, she'll call it "being strung along".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 11:59 PM
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Another argument I have heard is that on some level women understand that no sustainable civilization can be maintained without the sexual oppression of women as women are too innately selective to ever pair widely enough voluntarily. I doubt very much that most women (people really) realize that, but I absolutely believe it's something that had to be taken into consideration by the architects of civilization. How do you induce civility in beings whose natural urges are often its antithesis? An …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 05:02 PM
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it always seems like in any analytical conversation with women, they have one eye on what any admission in the analysis might lead men to do. In conjunction with an increasingly neurotic fixation on "what men might do" and a rapidly accelerating willingness to manipulate facts in reaction to it, we find ourselves in our current predicament. Fortunately though hard times create strong men, and strong men solve problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 04:03 PM
2

As a non-religious person, I think the story about Adam and Eve is deeply insightful and relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:38 PM
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But we're not allowed to address it unless it's done in a manner that doesn't implicate women, because between acknowledging their share of the blame and letting civilization reduce itself back down to the lowest common denominator, the latter is looking like the most likely outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:14 PM
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Seems like an attempt to seek consensus. Like a "convince me I'm correct in thinking this" type of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 04:47 PM
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Strange though how so many allegedly happily married women spend so much time consuming all of this online gendered drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:53 PM
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You are making an assumption that shed say no to a guy she likes. The opposite, actually. She is saying they wouldn't do that. They wouldn't what? Date a man they like in order to maintain solidarity with the other denizens of the metaphorical 4B bucket? Even when they themselves readily admit that a good relationship is infinitely better than no relationship? And your basis for that belief is "they said they wouldn't"? ...Alright then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:40 PM
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I think you're ignoring mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 09:56 PM
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I'm working on a collection of liter bikes. Yamaha R1M or a Honda CBR1000RR-R (needs more Rs) Fireblade is next on the list.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:31 PM
2

But those women swore off dating. That's certainly what they say, but metaphorically speaking they never uninstalled the app. A 4B woman isn't going to say no to a man that she likes "because she's boycotting men". So what, ultimately, is the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:17 PM
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how will a prince show up? By being the gender that initiates. Women are generally passive in being swept off their feet by men. I'm asking how a 4B woman's passivity manifests itself differently to normal women's.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 03:11 PM
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I'm not seeing any examples here of how a 4B woman might act differently to one who is still waiting for prince charming to show up. Seems like the only difference here is that one is waiting, while the other is secretly and resentfully waiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:52 PM
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What does a 4B woman going her own way even look like? Like how does her behavior differ from a woman who is just waiting for her prince charming to show up and get the relationship started?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:14 PM
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People tried to ignore the whinings, and it didn’t work So now we're in the pearl clutching phase? Where we test the boundaries of our hysterical rhetoric about men to try and mobilize society against a perceived threat to women? I guess if nothing else it'll be interesting to see just how dead chivalry actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:53 PM
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No idea who you're arguing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:25 AM
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I’m honestly a bigger hoe than most my friends this happens to. Im talking to like 5 different guys right now. And you're wondering why they all want a relationship? As 19 year old boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:42 AM
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You also, finding hot chicks hot in porn or calenders or online is seen as super duper normal and ok Not if we're living through the "Are you beach body ready?" era.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:24 AM
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Anonymously on the internet by people they themselves would consider to be beneath them. But that's not exactly on brand with being a victim so it gets framed very differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 10:05 PM
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That's not how it's going to play out at all. More likely we'll start investigating the reasons why men are doing the completely unprecedented thing, and it's going to invite a lot of very unflattering commentary about women's role in it; Which will become increasingly impossible to sweep under the rug.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 02:16 PM
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Because good fishermen cast wide nets.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 01:46 PM
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A simple comparison between the tolerance society affords women complaining about things vs men would challenge your thesis. I'd also be careful about limiting your sample sizes to dating forums that you doomscrolled.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:16 PM
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ah, so you inferred that these women are saying "there's no such thing as a good man" rather than "i'm done trying to find one"? Doesn't really matter, given that the cringe factor between "no such thing" and "too rare to bother looking for" is very similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:32 AM
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Does it bother you when an "unselected man" insists that there's no such thing as good women, and that's why he's single? Or does it just make you cringe that they'd pick such an implausible explanation to frame their abject failure as anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:10 AM
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Women aren't looking inward because they've decided that the problem is everybody else? Yeah, that tracks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:52 PM
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Women are increasingly choosing being single over being in shitty relationships. Maybe they should be asking themselves why they only ever attract shitty relationships if that's the only thing they're able to compare "being single" to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:40 PM
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Because this subreddit has a silly flair rule where you have to declare your gender and your "pill" in your flair in order to be allowed to reply to the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 09:04 PM
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So of all of the possible realities why a woman can't seem to get a single man to stick around without using sex as a carrot on a stick, the explanation we've settled on is "men are not actually interested in women"? No other possibilities to consider?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:30 PM
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I think most of the women who think "men only care about pussy" are probably something along those lines. I don't know why you keep treating that generality like a personal accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:28 PM
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Source for women are easily influenced by feminism? Not the claim I made. The manosphere is the cultural zeitgeist for many men, especially in this subreddit. You are an example of it. Maybe in the future you can call the things being discussed on anonymous subreddits "the cultural zeitgeist", but certainly not yet. If I ever see a general compliment towards women from TRP men anywhere, I will probably have to return my eyeballs in my sockets. Unless it's specifically by TRP men that you want ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:23 PM
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It is an untrue conclusion. The conclusion is not untrue. It's widely recognized. The only point of contention is whether its existence is due to nature or nurture. Nurture is probably the primary culprit, but that doesn't change the conclusion. Men seem to be easily influenced by the manosphere ideology. They have the ability to take studies and twist them so they can come to the worst conclusions about women. I assume you meant as easily influenced, given that you just described what feminist …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:31 PM
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It's about generalities. I'm surprised then that you can't recognize the generality of my statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:12 PM
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Do you really think we do not have brains? No. I think you have brains which are perhaps more easily influenced though, be it by way of nature or nurture. Is that such a horrible conclusion?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:03 PM
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If a man feels like women only ever care about his money, maybe his money is the only interesting thing about him. If a woman feels like men only ever care about her pussy...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:46 PM
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People forget that not every demographic of women grew up exposed to feminist grievance-based propaganda every waking hour of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:15 PM
4

Only men believe this. Are women so unaware of themselves that they'd think "only men believe that there's intragender competition among women"? Or are they aware and this is just how they protect their egos from it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:25 PM
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Inheritance without established family kinship are subject to exorbitant taxes. So are they with established family kinship. That's why people with wealth that exceeds the lifetime gift tax exemption, be they kin or not, create trusts and designate trustees.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 12:26 AM
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The issue I take against lists, personally, is why the flying fuck do I have to be in charge of it? Because presumably there's enough friction about chore division to be seeking solutions - and what better way to resolve it than for the aggrieved party to lay out the specifics of what would make them happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:34 AM
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Can you please respond to this? That's not how these posts work. They've already acknowledged that good faith debate isn't the intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:32 PM
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I think the issue these women take against "lists" is that it confines their expectations. They want to be able to always reserve the right to feel as though they've been slighted so that they can always have an excuse to be angry. Giving men a method to say "See? I've done everything you've asked of me. Why are you still angry?" (a list) is counterproductive to said women, because it gives those men a way to show that the woman is being unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:08 PM
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Sounds like we're overdue for a "beautiful at any backbone" campaign to tackle unrealistic confidence standards!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 02:38 PM
0

It's the typical half-truth. When they say "I hate traditional gender roles!" they're only referring to their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 01:59 PM
3

Is sleeping in the same room something that he wants?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:54 AM
12

Is he getting his money's worth though?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 11:23 PM
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Just don't look into the post-pandemic stats on the efficacy of non-N95 rated masks (the masks everyone was wearing) preventing the spread of covid. You were wearing a germ collector (one that doesn't actually do anything at all to contain tiny viruses) on your face that you were touching with your hands all day. Anyway. But I reacted with pity and disgust. That's kinda what I was expecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:32 PM
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Question to the women who believe they're living in fear: How did you react to people who weren't wearing a mask during covid?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 11:26 PM
2

Balloon lives matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:29 PM
0

Protestantism ultimately defeats the purpose of its own source material. It's straight up "thou shalt not do X unless you want to".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:20 PM
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And while the ladies are at it, they should also remember that nothing you described above could reasonably be interpreted as sexual harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 10:58 PM
2

when you start following someone round a building, you have an agenda Yeah. To get your number. To which you (eventually) said "no, go away", and he did. "Cornered". This is again absolutely arrogance from guys here that even when presented with evidence, it’s not the guys fault or responsibility. The evidence clearly shows that you were pestered, and also that you're catastrophizing scenarios that didn't actually happen to try and argue that you were more than just pestered.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:38 PM
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Right, walking someone out to their car and looking like they might jump on is “pestering” yes? Yes. As well as all the other stuff you described. The thing is, has this guy jumped in, pulled out a weapon and me, you’d all be saying it was my fault I'm sure you believe that... Anyway, at that point you could reasonably say you were "cornered". But that didn't happen, did it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:46 PM
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I’ve been cornered in a grocery store. You've been pestered in a grocery store.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:35 PM
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Now look back at the context of the conversation and ask yourself if your comment served any meaningful purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:25 PM
1

Whose fault is it in either case, friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:33 AM
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Your fellow men. Lets test the consistency of your logic here: When a man spends so much of his time seeking out the most egregiously negative publicity about women that he can find to rationalize his increasingly radical takes about them, that's women's fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 03:31 AM
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it’s not the fault of women to take what they learn from the men around them as a good example of how men CAN and sometimes DO think. What about when they get stuck in their own positive feedback loops by fixating on all of the most extreme examples they can scrounge up from anonymous sources on the internet to inform themselves about the opposite sex to the point that they become utterly incapable of trusting any of them? Whose fault is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:00 PM
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I mean, if "men aren't 'he for she'ing' hard enough" is all it takes to dissuade you from being consistent with your ideological philosophies then that only really speaks to your own lack of conviction to them. Which you're free to express, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:34 AM
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I never found a guy that didn't want to do a sex act. Not the question I asked. No I don't think they reserve the good sex acts to certain people, that doesn't make sense Not the question I asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:43 PM
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If it's not your ideology then why are you using it to demand women pay for dates? Because we're telling you to put your money where your mouth is if you actually believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:35 PM
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Do you think men put the same amount of effort and enthusiasm into every single woman they date? Or do you think maybe sometimes they're more enthusiastic about and treat some women better than others? Can you acknowledge that women can behave similarly towards men? If so, then I don't see the point in relying on this implausibly convenient excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:27 PM
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For some reason they don't care that she didn't like it Why do we only ever assume "she didn't like it"? Seems terribly convenient to just dump the entire phenomenon onto this one conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:49 PM
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Why would I give men the benefits of feminism when they actively hate every other part of it? Because it's your ideology, and therefore your own obligation to be putting your money where your mouth is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 05:31 PM
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And was this a specific thing that men did to women? Or could men also be committed against their wills and with no legal recourse to insane asylums? The deliberate use of half-truths to frame history through ideological lenses is simply not a productive activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:58 PM
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An acclaimed journalist told you that women's place in history was to be "constant irritants to be kept in line"? I'd double-check their credentials if I were you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:49 PM
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Where do you get your accounts of history from?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:35 PM
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Sure? So getting hung up on "what the creators thought the genre is" is a meaningless deflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:22 PM
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I never viewed it as such. And neither did the creators. Forrest did though...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:15 PM
0

I suspect the Pareto principle (80/20) also applies to this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:08 AM
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Is a woman who believes she's always in imminent danger of being raped acting a little bit neurotic or no? This is a good faith test (and maybe also a serendipitous demonstration of the first point I made about keeping the peace).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 11:31 PM
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There's a limit to validating neuroticism where it starts doing more harm than good, and a woman who always believes she's about to be raped has long since crossed that limit. If keeping the peace is ultimately the goal though, then...yeah, validate away.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 04:28 PM
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The first thing a man must learn to do in order to keep the peace with a woman is to avoid putting anything into perspective. The woman who believes there's a man who wants to rape her hiding just around every corner doesn't want to hear the actual odds. It's the classic "I don't want you to fix the problem, I just want you to sympathize with and affirm my emotions" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 03:43 PM
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Like clockwork I tell you! I wear the downvotes like a badge of honor. They're angry NPC points as far as I'm concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:57 AM
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Oof. You used a metaphor. Now you're going to get the "women aren't fish" response from all the first-order thinkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:45 AM
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Though I do agree with you that women are redefining themselves in some new ways, I don't think men have really done that yet. That's because men were already all of the things that women want to redefine themselves as.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 12:29 AM
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This sub is 80% question for women though Eh. This place is counterproductive but not that counterproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:30 PM
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I don't see how that's wanting to destroy games by expressing a preference. It's all in how you handle the existence of games that don't adhere to your preferences. If you think a game that doesn't suit your preferences should change itself so that it does, then it'd be impossible to argue that your intent isn't to destroy that game. Ultimately whose problem should it be that an artist's work doesn't suit your tastes? If developers don't want to, then they probably lose customers as women likely…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:21 PM
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when people want a more balance And what form does that take? Do they create their own games full of women in full plate armor and men in speedos and leave other people to make their own games the way they want to? Or do they just sit there and condemn the way that other people make games? Because one of those is very obviously a form of "wanting to destroy games".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:53 PM
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Is that meant to be a statement about how terrible men are, or how far we've advanced medical science?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:04 PM
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It should be obvious that if women are choosing to stay single despite all the available men out there, it is a choice they are making wilfully. It would be obvious if not for the fact that most women don't approach or initiate on principle even when they really want relationships, which completely undermines the "willful choice" reasoning as anything other than a convenient excuse to mask their failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:27 PM
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"If you don't maintain your car, it might catch on fire." Did I just threaten to set your car on fire?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:56 AM
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Is "wash your hands or you might get sick" also a threat?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:09 PM
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Who hasn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 11:19 PM
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Depends what outcome you're looking for. If it's more of the same, then I'd say nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:59 PM
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I have no qualms telling you you are in fact kinda ruining things I know you don't. I'm just explaining why from your perspective things seem to be getting worse vis a vis "women's support".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:55 PM
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I’m not infantilizing, I am mostly saying women aren’t on the same page You're implying that the women who aren't on your page are helping to jeopardize women's rights though. Which is increasingly recognized by the women who do vote right as a highly politicized take.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:46 PM
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Does his name need to be actually mentioned for his opinions to have an impact? No, but it does need to be mentioned when it comes to gauging which gender's head he takes up more space in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:48 PM
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Like I said, here on PPD, not just an online space per your own requisite, but pretty much the online space where people like Tate would be discussed, I see women citing him way more than I see men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:45 PM
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Seems pretty true to me. So that boys will think this gender war bullshit is real. Given that the message being fed to boys, girls, men and women for the last few decades has essentially been "men need to step aside and stop being patriarchal oppressors of women", that shouldn't really surprise anyone. You might even say that's what created the very environment from which personalities like Tate can amass millions of followers. When they are being taught to hate women. As a predictable counter-r…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:12 AM
0

I see women citing Tate here on PPD quite a bit more than I ever see red pill men talking about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:31 PM
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Half of Tate's followers were women being ragebaited.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:47 PM
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Women have had full ability to purchase property of all kinds for even longer than the 1960s. Then they don't do it on par with men because managing real estate can be a competitive and cutthroat environment which men are naturally more inclined to. Then the narratives form about how the disparity isn't a natural consequence of the differences between the sexes, but a coordinated effort by men to suppress women! Even though the only "proof" they can ever muster is the same incestuous sloganeerin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:02 AM
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I believe religion is bogus, but I also believe humans are effectively incapable of maintaining moral frameworks conducive to building civilizations without the supernatural guardrails that religion erects. As far as promoting it goes? I'll leave that to the people who actually believe in it. It wouldn't feel right telling people to fear "judgment" when I think it's bogus.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:16 PM
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Why would he give all these benefits to someone who could leave at any point and is not promising him anything in return for his efforts? But what he's recognizing as the consequences of getting married, women will recognize as the consequences of not getting married. Which is very interesting indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:01 PM
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They're not voluntarily emotionally celibate though. Which is why we call them femcels, a play on the word 'emcel'.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:39 PM
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Those two words are synonyms, so no. Does an incel choose to abstain from women? Or is it usually just something that happens as a natural consequence of their own inadequacy? Does a woman choose to be a sad, lonely person who fills the void with cats?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:27 PM
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Why would she give all these benefits to someone who could leave at any point and is not promising her anything in return for her efforts (again not all relationships) Ironically men recognize that exact same reasoning when explaining why they don't want to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:50 PM
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women decided to embrace the "lonely cat lady" identity "Decided" is much too strong a word for this...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:33 PM
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At what point though does "making women feel special" just become an exercise in blowing smoke up their asses and shielding their egos from harm? Kinda feels like we've already gone down that path, and the results were awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:42 AM
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It is, as always, fascinating to watch women be so afraid of agency and accountability that they foster most of their intersexual hatred toward men that were foolish enough to listen to them. Hah. Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 02:30 PM
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So would the woman who cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 03:16 AM
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women were still viewed as stupid little weak creatures who needed a man to tell them what to do. Why would men designate stupid little weak creatures who need to be told what to do as the moral guardians of home and hearth? That doesn't make any sense. I suspect you missed the mark here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 03:36 PM
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How exactly does upper-body strength determine whether someone can vote or study medicine? It doesn't. And neither women nor the overwhelming majority of men save for a couple percentage points could do those things until very recently. Is it fair to compare all women to only the most elite men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 01:42 PM
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Women were often excluded before anyone had evidence they were less capable Can you prove that? It doesn't take academic studies to recognize that women are significantly less physically capable than men. We had that one figured out long before we were even walking upright as a species.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 12:53 PM
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Can you establish an objective difference between a man "expressing [...] his depression" and "losery feelings and hopelessness"? Or is this just something you need to feel out in the moment?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 05:12 AM
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There are way too many women chasing the manosphere around insisting angrily that it doesn't work to believe that it doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:59 PM
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If we're going to save modern dating, we're going to have to break this decades-running addiction to framing the solution to every cultural problem as "men need to [...] for women".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:18 AM
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up to 1 in 3 men have been abusive toward a woman in some way Does it also say how many women have been abusive/violent toward a man in some way? I bet a comparison between those numbers would reveal that "1 in 3" is actually quite disciplined, relatively speaking. But that's off topic. I am not responsible for his behavior or the harm it causes. Nope. Just your own behavior and the harms it causes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:28 PM
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I think you're the one assuming that there aren't. In any case, you're responsible for choosing to date toxic people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:46 PM
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Where did I assume that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:55 AM
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None of these are smart observations. What's important though is taking the right actions, even if for the wrong reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:52 AM
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Stopping is probably the most responsible solution for someone who would sooner declare all men toxic than to recognize the errors in their own actions, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:47 AM
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If i encounter many toxic ass am i responsible for them being toxic and me noticing it? No, but if you encounter and date many toxic ass men then you're definitely responsible for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:57 AM
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Why are so many women obsessed with this idea that their sisters do absolutely nothing ever? And don't they realize that their completely untamed rhetoric only serves to undermine their own credibility as functional adults? At this rate we're going to have to bring back the fainting couches soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:52 AM
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"Why do you blame men when you responsible for your actions" It's a legitimate question. And then they complain about female hypergamy as if they just didn't convince to not tolerate many men. Hypergamy isn't "avoiding men who display patterns of behavior".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:34 AM
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Keep in mind, the door dash girl and her ilk are convinced that she was "sexually assaulted" when she took pictures of an unconscious naked man in his own home and then posted them on the internet. Bizarro world is seemingly missing some of its dictionaries and/or denizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 11:17 PM
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Men simply bring less to the table (in general), and that's why they are ones who are more interested. This would be a much more meaningful observation if it weren't for the cultural expectations that men be the ones to express interest and initiate, and that those expectations far predate any women trying to argue the case that "men bring less to the table".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 01:46 PM
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A woman is the one that decides whether you get to hit it. And are women generally attracted to men who put them on pedestals? Use it as a motivating force. Instead of trying to get rid of it. Can you show me where I suggested you need to get rid if it? Or why using it as a motivating force would be mutually exclusive with not wearing it on your sleeve?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:58 PM
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See: political lesbianism It's a well-documented social phenomenon with its own flag and everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:23 PM
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The problem here is not that you're hungry. The problem is multifaceted, as the sentence preceding the above demonstrates. His problem is that he is a fucking mess and needs to get his shit together. And also possibly that he sees women as though they're superior to him. On pedestals, if you will. Such that if not corrected he'll still have issues inspiring attraction in them even after he gets his shit together. "maybe you were never hungry to begin with, why not pretend like you're not hungry"…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:57 PM
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Telling men not to put women on a pedestal is like telling hungry people to think about something other than food. It's more like telling hungry people that begging and flailing in desperation are not effective ways to acquire food.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:38 PM
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They add a lot of unnecessary misogyny. But that is likely done more of as a marketing stunt. If anything it serves to fundamentally change a man's mentality about women so that he can remove them from the pedestal he has them on in his mind. Which is probably the single most common and most important problem men struggling with women need to address. Will some men overshoot the target? Absolutely. But it's not like misogyny itself is a major impediment to sexually succeeding with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 03:04 PM
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every shred of data we have says...women are less violent. Except against children and domestic partners who don't fight back.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:09 AM
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I think you're probably incorrectly assuming things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:58 PM
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Just think of it as Darwinism in action. Every now and then you need to cut the fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:09 PM
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The fact that it gets punished on men tells you how much society actually values femininity. This doesn't speak to how much society values femininity. It only speaks to how society feels about men accessing the benefits provided to femininity. If society "protects" femininity as special, why does a man gaining feminine traits lose status instead of gaining access to something valued? Because he's a man, and feminine protections are meant for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:47 PM
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Rape is non-consensual sexual activity. I thought you said it was "coercive tactics and other behaviors which undermine consent". Which could potentially include things like, say, a guy fibbing about his income, or a woman wearing makeup and a pushup bra.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:16 PM
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If I asked you to define the word rape would "coercive tactics and other behaviors which undermine consent" be in it? If so, then I'll just say you're playing a very dangerous game with that word.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 02:19 PM
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it doesn’t mean we have to be supportive of your ideas We don't need your support. We will have you get out of our way as we resolve these things though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:22 PM
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The W doesn't stand for "women" unless you're using the more humorous "Men Getting Tired Of Women" version.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:22 AM
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Rather than men becoming more radical I think it'd be better if they just...stopped engaging seriously with women who have themselves become hopelessly radical. Focus on making them the butt of the joke instead. The single most effective tool to shape women's behavior isn't force, it's shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:56 PM
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Here's a chart that shows how men are inherently better at grip strength than women simply by virtue of having a Y chromosome.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:33 PM
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This culture is NOT women's fault. Even though they make up half of it? Do you ever get upset when men joke about women's complicated relationship with accountability? Because it seems like you might be fundamentally agreeing with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:04 PM
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Women bear the reproductive load. Glances at birth rates across the first world That's a very debatable statement at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:52 PM
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Good reason is present. See: Ego-protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:04 PM
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You must necessarily believe then that women never conceal their desires behind ego-protection mechanisms. Or you're not engaging in good faith. In either case, I have nothing further to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:01 PM
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I didn't ask you what the phrase means. I asked you if you think all of the women who say it genuinely prefer solitude over any other alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:10 PM
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Are you under the impression that all of the women who cite "wanting peace" are saying they desire solitude over any other alternative?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:50 PM
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we can be passive AF, and still have offers for dates. None that you like though, which you'll moan about endlessly and/or mask with narratives about men "competing with your peace". Ultimately the two primary drivers of women's passivity in dating are cowardice and ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:37 PM
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We're talking about women who say they have casual sex, which includes women who enjoy casual sex, and also women who don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:57 AM
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And an even smaller percentage of the women who claim to have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:38 AM
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Don't get me wrong, I'd love it if most women were cool with men just "laying pipe and going home". That's just not a reflection of the real world, it never has been, and it never will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:28 AM
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It doesn’t automatically mean he’s compatible for a relationship nor that she wants a relationship with the man. Maybe not automatically but it'd be highly unusual if she didn't. Most women who actively participate in casual sex... Are retroactively rationalizing their failed and covert pursuit of a man's commitment as something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 01:15 AM
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any thing you see from women online is only rage bait for engagement. You're not helping to fight the stereotypes about women and accountability with sentences like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 12:33 PM
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They should communicate how the tattoo is making them feel. They're doing that and you're calling it a threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:00 AM
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Would you rather your partner inform you first that a thing you're going to do is a relationship-ender or just be ghosted?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:21 AM
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Oh. That's considered a deformity? I mean, I'll grant that it's not exactly appealing, and presumably the origin of the "fried egg on a nail" jokes. But to quote women: "So long as it works..."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 03:20 PM
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The idea is sexless with her or sexless alone Within the parameters of this specific hypothetical, I'd choose sexlessness with her, but only because there'd probably be some other utility in her presence that I may as well maintain access to, and only because "sexlessness" is a constant with either choice. Even still, I'd only ever see her as a friend/roommate, and I'd likely not feel compelled to engage in any forms of intimacy with her, including the "fair game" ones. In real life though, sinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:35 PM
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I can't think of a single scenario where this doesn't sound awful unless she's ok with me touching genitals with other women. It'd still be a sub-optimal arrangement though. I'd rather just focus my time on those other women at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:28 PM
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Sounds awful. How do you build a life with someone who doesn't want to be intimate with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:40 PM
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When's the last time you recall humans being deterred from doing a thing because it's a waste of energy? What you're witnessing is just physics. Cause and effect. Extremism begets extremism. We've understood this concept as a species for millennia.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:47 PM
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We need to stop the men vs women framing. It's toxic and pointless. How many decades have we endured this type of gendered ideological zealotry from feminists and why is it seemingly only time to pump the brakes now that men are starting to play copy-cat on the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:15 AM
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Is it the same thing? If your answer is no, then I'm glad we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:36 PM
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For how much time the OP insists they spend mulling over this issue, their example appears to suggest they're not any closer to understanding it. "The logistical challenges of fitting your big dick in my ass are insurmountable" is not the same reasoning as "I don't want to do things with you that I did with my ex(es)".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:13 PM
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Sure, I do see an issue IF a woman did make that decision without his input. I would think she is a fool. Would you oppose men being granted legal protection from the allegedly statistically anomalous women who would do that? Or are you trying to say that because they're statistically anomalous, we should just sweep it under the rug?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:17 PM
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the decision is made between the couple. It's "made between the couple" when the decision itself is mutual. It's made by the woman when it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:09 PM
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The vast majority of men are making that choice in conjunction with the woman already. If this is you saying "the vast majority of pregnancies are planned and agreed upon by both parties beforehand" then no, I don't think that's true at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:48 PM
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Let men decide when they want to be fathers in the same capacity that women get to decide when they want to be mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:40 PM
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Just don't have kids First you'll need to empower men with reproductive rights on par with women so that we can make that choice. Until then, your platitude is meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:21 PM
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Then the onus is on you to communicate that to them. "Here's the list of ways I will never compromise for you."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:28 PM
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Is it just sexual incompatibilities that you'd rather be ghosted on than given an opportunity to compromise? What if the relationship isn't 'early in' when the incompatibilities are discovered?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:19 PM
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They can just say they don't think we are compatible. You'd complain that they're "coercing" you with threats of breaking up if they did that. See how this works?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:33 PM
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Don't try to argue with them over it You'd complain that they're "ghosting" if they did that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:22 PM
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It is, assuming the man is the only one making "a fair try". Which lets be honest, is not an uncommon scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 12:13 PM
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So then you should see how "wants to believe...unable to face the truth" can potentially be just as much to blame as "being strung along", depending on the specifics of the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 04:49 PM
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If it's obvious to third party observers then it'd be difficult to argue that she's not willfully feeding the dynamic in some capacity at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 04:41 PM
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I'd need a lot more information about both individuals before I could make a reasonably accurate prediction. Given that you say it's been going on for years then it could very well be both, with each one feeding the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 02:52 PM
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But can we at least agree that stringing someone along is a cousin to ghosting someone Only so long as we can also acknowledge that there's a significant difference between "being strung along" and simply "not getting your way" and be vigilant to not conflate the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 01:18 PM
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Men decentering women is good. Men decentering families probably won't be. Not the first time it's happened either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:46 PM
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I'd say men already are starting to leave women alone. I suspect the "male loneliness epidemic" is a lot more voluntary than the typical PPD narrative would suggest. All of the data points on the topic seem to suggest it's not that men are failing, but simply that they're not trying. And when men don't try to form relationships, relationships don't happen. Which increasingly leaves the women who want relationships in a position where they either have to become the initiators themselves (lol) or …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:15 PM
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Why would you need my definition To further illustrate the point that men don't want serious relationships with women who believe that men think "wife" is (borrowed from another poster): code for a servant woman who’s dumb and naive enough to let them get away with whatever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 11:50 PM
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I think it might be more illuminating to my point if you gave your definition. After which I'd be happy to offer mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:23 PM
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So one, why should women want to be wife material if doesn't seem like men want relationships? Do they not want relationships? Or do they just not want to make wives out of women who scoff at the idea of what a wife is?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:14 PM
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"Didn't care for her" is her interpretation. Without his you can't really know if her interpretation is accurate or not. There are women who are very well taken care of who will tell you that they weren't. Human nature. Trust, but verify.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 02:03 PM
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the majority of men arent even offering the basics It's important that more people see women saying these kinds of implausibly radical things. Sunlight will ultimately be this problem's best disinfectant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:36 PM
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Then he was a total piece of shit. Might have been. But it would be premature to assume before we heard his side of the story, as we so often forget to do after a woman tells hers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 01:23 PM
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"Being catcalled is not the same as women harming men." Fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:59 PM
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The ones that give way to the more radical manifestations of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:46 PM
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Mankind collectively failing womankind's collective shit tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:39 PM
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"I'm all for addressing women's problems, so long as they never try to implicate men as part of them." Fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:13 PM
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I've never heard of a man trying to explain trying to hide his cheating as "you can't handle the truth". But if she asks him if this dress makes her look fat? Or if he'd love her if she were a worm? Or who he thinks is the prettiest woman on Earth? Or if he thinks her friends are attractive? Or what he's thinking about when she's expecting him to be thinking about her and he isn't? Or if he's too tired to have sex on a day that she's feeling insecure about her body? These are all truths that wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:14 PM
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I can't wait for society to address that third one. I don't care if it means both parents get a choice or neither does. I just want to see the inequity of it resolved. Dragging men into parenthood with the justification "it's for the good of the child" while simultaneously defending a woman's right to end said child for her own convenience is just...a wild glimpse into the times we live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 02:57 PM
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I'm sure they'd think to put the "factory reset" button somewhere less...inconvenient in the production models.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:29 AM
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"AI voices could never replace real voice actors!" And then it did.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:15 AM
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You repeatedly say that women over look negative character traits in favor of dating a hot guy. And you think you're countering this statement by saying "looks do not correlate with character"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 05:00 PM
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I imagine that likely applies to a lot of the women here as well. But that's off-topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:36 PM
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What sort of dumb decisions? All of the ones she made because the guy was hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 05:37 PM
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I'll give you a generic example because that's a pretty broad question: A woman makes a dumb decision about a man because he was hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 05:22 PM
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Should we? Depends how much value we see in maximizing the number of productive men invested in the future of their societies compared against women (and inevitably men) having the unfettered freedom to act on their mammalian instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:41 PM
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The men you date.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:13 PM
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The mimicry isn't effective, though. Doesn't change what they're mimicking, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:46 PM
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Insofar as the mimicry is efficacious, sure. Why not? All's fair in love and gender wars.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:38 PM
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(men online are the ones asking for “empathy” for their dating woes. By which they usually mean agreement that everything is women’s fault lol) I wonder where they learned "blame the other gender for everything" from? Is this what it looks like when chickens come home to roost?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:21 PM
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Be careful pointing it out. You might get hit by the mods for "contentless rhetoric".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 07:35 AM
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"Pick me" is just what feminist-minded women call any woman whom they perceive to be a "gender traitor". Which depending on the woman, can be as innocuous as "doesn't see/treat men terribly".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 02:42 AM
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Men who want virgin women are going to err more on the side of the black pill than the red. The desire is usually motivated by the men themselves being virgins. They just cloak black with red because "I want an exceptionally traditional woman" sounds better than "I don't want her to be a lot more experienced than me". Which is fair, given that women are generally put off by a man's inexperience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 12:56 PM
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So by that logic, do you understand when women criticize “men” the “not all men” argument is stupid Only if you think nuance is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 12:45 PM
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I mean, just reading what you said about the plot I can already tell it's going to be a feminist-fueled commentary about abortion or something along those lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:03 AM
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What was the last novel you read by a female author? Uh... Hrm... Harry Potter? Wait, I didn't read Harry Potter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:50 AM
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Nah. I have too many hobbies that require upper body strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 05:38 PM
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"They were rude first" is not a statement somebody who wasn't rude at all would speak. Also keep in mind that while you can disable your post history, yours in particular isn't disabled. So...people can see what you've been typing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 01:55 PM
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You can either deny that you're also being rude or attempt to justify it. You just tried to do both.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 01:49 PM
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I think women know duty. Clearly not all of them do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 05:44 AM
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It's untenable to treat a woman (or any person for that matter) who sees duty as a meaningless self-affliction that she'd prefer to avoid as a reasonable or reliable human being. So she needs to be treated differently - i.e. "managed".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 09:21 PM
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Well then perhaps you have the answer to why red pill men: basically build relationship on the idea that you need to "manage" woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:52 PM
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To see what what looks like? To see certain groups of people going to ridiculous lengths to establish their status as 'victims'.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 09:17 PM
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I think that’s because of the pathetic tone that a lot of men are taking on the Internet these days. They are so desperately trying to make themselves out to be victims that it just becomes a bit ridiculous at a certain point. Well, at least you finally get to see what it looks like from the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 08:54 PM
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Nobody forbade her from existing. They're just saying in their opinion and experience that she isn't worth waiting for if she's not onboard relatively quickly. Which is generally true for men who aren't desperate. This shouldn't even be a controversial take. Women are always saying "If he's interested he'll do something about it", right? Why shouldn't men see it the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 01:14 PM
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I've found this method to be reliable with women. They will much more readily acknowledge, agree with and even lament the unflattering patterns of female behavior if you can make them believe that you think they're an exception to said patterns. "The sisterhood" is incredibly fragile.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 03:25 PM
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They're a PPD content generator. They get a lot of leniency because they generate a lot of traffic with their daily rants about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:56 PM
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Women's entire social (and not just dating) strategy is rooted in plausible deniability. And also colonization. As once upon a time demonstrated by this meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 02:10 PM
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That's literally what it means. If you have your own proprietary definition for it (as we can see below) then that's your own business.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:56 PM
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Lots of married guys are involuntarily celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 02:55 PM
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Tell that to all the deadbedroom people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 02:41 PM
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I could but it'd be off-topic, and I'm more focused on reveling in the irony right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 04:50 PM
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Do you not recognize your own words?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:20 PM
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No, you're proving mine. Because if I told you "women can't admit that women caused women's issues" you'd immediately recognize it as an attempt to excuse men from criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 02:45 PM
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men caused men’s issues In a thread where you're arguing that men hate criticism you'd just boldly excuse women entirely as a source of men's issues? That's kinda ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 01:18 PM
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Be a woman who offers more than just her youth and beauty to men and your relationships with them will be a lot less unsustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 09:19 AM
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If you're talking about their ability to build a career or things to that effect then sure, they don't peak in their 20s. But insofar as being seen as optimal candidates for men to produce healthy offspring with, yeah they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 08:41 PM
0

Women: "Only men benefit from marriage." Also women: "I deserve half of everything he ever created and subsidized my life with."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:21 PM
4

That's where the MGTOW-based phrase "the juice isn't worth the squeeze" comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:36 AM
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Ask any bisexual man which gender is easier to date in their experience. They'll all give you the same answer. Then take that same question and ask any bisexual woman. They'll all give you the same answer too. Then compare the tumultuousness of lesbian relationships vs gay relationships. Suffice to say there are a lot of data points about this that all seem to point in the same direction - that women are difficult. Granted I don't think this is news to anybody. It's just a sensitive topic to tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:23 AM
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There are some women who spend an unhealthy amount of time "doomscrolling" manosphere stuff, and we're watching a lot of those women sabotage their chances at having good relationships with men in real time right here on PPD. Ultimately though I see that as a problem of their own making.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:05 PM
2

So either they are liars to you or they manipulate women and don’t care. And use the redpill to excuse their behaviour. Is this your best attempt at critical thinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 02:00 PM
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Would women be fine with men actually quantifying the value of motherhood/home making so that they could be fairly compensated, or would that be a whole radioactive can of worms in and of itself?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 12:26 PM
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That means that women didn't want casual, and didn't agree to it... And yet they still had it. That's the point. Also why the premise of your OP fails. Men aren't sharing a small number of valuable sluts. Women are being sluts for a small number of valuable men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 05:43 PM
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The women decide if they want to do casual. Incredibly rarely. In the overwhelming majority of cases, the women who have "casual" sex don't realize it was casual until later. Which is the mechanism behind the never-ending cavalcade of "he used me for sex" complaints coming from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 04:53 PM
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With enough efficacy that women spend a lot of time trying to defend against it. Which contradicts the notion that it's unlikely to get a woman who doesn't want casual sex to have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:49 PM
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If that were the case then why are there so many discussions among women about how/when/why to offer sex to try to ensure they stop getting played by players?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:22 PM
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Most men want casual sex, and there are only few women who want it consistently. So men competing for their attention and attraction. Men don't limit their pursuit of casual sex to women who are looking for casual sex, so I'm not sure why you'd rest the entire premise of your argument on the assumption that they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:05 PM
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Answering (or more specifically, avoiding answering) questions with questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 05:20 PM
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The women who think men don't want women who want good men are the women who define "good men" the same way that femcels define "bang maids".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:06 PM
1

Likewise vis a vis how much 'the manosphere' upsets the women who say they prefer bears.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:24 PM
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Unless in her mind his pushing boundaries is indicative of his irresistible desire for her which is basically the primary theme of women's erotica.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:32 PM
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Pedos can be anyone straight or gay. Nobody said they couldn't be. Just bc they use an argument similar to gay peoples reason for liking same gender/sex doesnt mean the arguments are equal. Does the LGBTIQCAPGNGFNBA (I had to Google the most current one) community generally advocate for the normalization of an ever-expanding list of sexualities or doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:34 PM
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I am of the train of thought that sexual freedom which is something LGBTQ+ people preach is on the opposing side of predators. Remember when there was a push to stop calling people "pedophiles" and start calling them "minor attracted people" because "it's wrong to shame people for what they're sexually attracted to"? That came straight from the LGBTQ+ community.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:17 PM
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Are women equals to men or are women beings that men require special permission from to ask questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 05:32 PM
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DV numbers already show that in more than 70% of the cases when only one partner is being violent (non-reciprocal violence), women are the perpetrators. The data is there. We're just still struggling as a society to acknowledge it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:53 PM
1

Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:48 PM
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Yes, but I think if we're looking to reduce perceptions of dishonest-with-their-motives men then recognizing a scorned woman's ability to make post-hoc rationalizations about a man's intentions is going to address no less than half of that problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:25 PM
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If they care more about sex than anything else they should be honest they just want sex or casual sex You're underestimating a scorned woman's ability to make post-hoc rationalizations about a man's intentions, and how meaningless his honesty can be in the face of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 01:19 PM
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They indeed typed the word "no", and you misinterpreted it spectacularly. I'll just leave the comment chain to speak for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 04:34 PM
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They didn't deny that there are abusive men. They said there are just as many abusive women as there are men. Which somehow you managed to interpret as them saying "there are no abusive men at all and neither are there abusive women."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:47 PM
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This is exactly the type of analysis these daily compulsively posted topics deserve because they're getting really old at this point. Bravo, sir.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:44 PM
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Is it your opinion that because a metabolic disorder makes someone more prone to obesity that obesity becomes an inevitability beyond their control? If so, then we're just going to have to agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 09:10 PM
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No, I'm just not convinced that "makes it easier to store fat/harder to burn fat" is a sufficient excuse for obesity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 07:59 PM
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makes them fat no matter how careful they eat. It seems strange to me then how much faith humanity puts in the laws of thermodynamics if women with metabolic issues are allegedly able to defy them so easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 07:34 PM
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Why do so many men have the urge to tear her down? Or women for that matter! The second the self-declared beautiful woman leaves the room she's going to get absolutely eviscerated by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:28 PM
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So his choices aren't being respected then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:35 PM
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What specifically about those things causes a woman to unavoidably eat so many calories while burning so few of them that she becomes obese?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 02:06 PM
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It becomes oppression when men say "you don't deserve to want what you want. you should tolerate less". So then are you saying that the solution to your "oppression" is to just spend less time on Reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:19 PM
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Who is going to be accountable for all of the random trolls on the internet saying mean or contradictory things about women? I think that's what the OP wants to know. Not it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 02:37 PM
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Just take note of how often they employ the phrase "men here" in their posts, and also how frequently they post here for the most probable answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 02:29 PM
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The crux of all of this is that no, men aren't going to handicap themselves in the pursuit of their own interests so that women can have an easier time pursuing theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 06:12 PM
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Absolutely not. Easier isn't always better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 05:48 PM
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Lillith's protégé.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 02:15 PM
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I know this level of nuance will be lost on you Your position doesn't appear to be particularly nuanced. men's idea of respect is hierarchical in nature AKA DEFERENCE So is yours if it's your opinion that respect is something to be earned and not just given "because women/men". Men ARE NOT superior to women and we will not "submit" or defer to a man because he is A MAN. No, you'll submit to him because he earned your deference, and because the chip on your shoulder regarding "patriarchy" hasn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 10:26 PM
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NOPE respect is earned Would you say that to a group of feminists chanting "respect women"? Or is this rule actually more selectively applied than initially presented?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:35 PM
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Essentially "don't want anything serious with" translates to "hates" in a lot of women's heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 12:59 AM
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The premise that "women shouldn't listen to men if men won't listen to women" is ultimately a petty one. If you don't want to listen to men, then don't. Nobody is going to lose sleep over that. Just like you shouldn't be losing sleep over the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 08:05 PM
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Bring this up in gender discussion spaces and women immediately reframe it: "that's because women know how to leave bad situations" or "quick exits are healthy, actually."* My personal favorite is when they try to attribute the statistics in their entirety to "when lesbians were still dating men", even though heterosexual relationships are statistically less tumultuous than lesbian ones. The only ones they're fooling are themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 02:50 PM
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At the absolute minimum, with everything else assumed to be equal, a woman is generally less rational on her period than off. Try addressing that point first, if you'd like this conversation to continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:49 PM
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everyone, menstruation or not, is riding an ongoing wave of shifting hormones all the time Does menstruation generally intensify those waves of shifting emotions or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:48 PM
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How much more rational are men than women, on average? At the absolute minimum? Whatever the offset is between a person who frequently experiences the hormonal fluctuations that come with menstruation and a person who doesn't. I think we agree that people of all genders are, individually, rational some of the time and emotional some of the time, aye? Of course. As far as averages go though? I think it'd be extremely difficult to call it a wash.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:44 AM
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I told you that relative to women, men are generally more rational. You point to an example of a man being irrational as though it disproves the above. It doesn't, because I didn't say "men are never irrational".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 06:34 PM
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Relatively speaking, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 01:31 AM
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Aren't those women always saying they're not wearing the make up for men, but for themselves? Why should men pay for women's personal hobbies?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:31 PM
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I think men are already starting to have higher standards. They're raising their standards in that if women are going to treat relationships like a transaction, then men are starting to expect the terms of those transactions to be explicitly outlined and to reserve the right to terminate without penalty should they not be met rather than tolerating vague ambiguities. Which I think helps to explain why marriage is in decline and sugar babies/daddies are on the rise.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:10 PM
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If we want to approach the problem as though women don't have any agency and can't help but only ever follow their animal instincts then sure, we can task the men they gravitate towards with the responsibility of managing those women's behaviors. The same way we expect dog owners to. ...Do we want to do that though?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:11 PM
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Honestly, I think the number of women who actively gaslight is a lot lower than the number of women who just have incredibly efficient rationalization hamsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 01:42 PM
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What matters is what the quick sex represents. Just like how what matters is what the man paying for the date represents. You wouldn't say that the woman who disqualifies a man who doesn't pay for the date believes the free meal was all that mattered.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:14 PM
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I think your post and your replies are written perfectly for the intent that I suspect they carry.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:04 PM
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The thing is that i try to point out, it's off topic. If the topic is in-group bias, and the goal is more than just to rant about men, then comparisons to women's in-group bias is absolutely not off topic. You simply blame me for not letting you switch the topic and present yourself virtuous by doing so. It's not switching the topic. It's putting the topic into perspective. It's just that in doing so the conversation loses its value to the woman who just wants her "men are terrible" views reinfo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 02:53 PM
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I have no idea what are you implying That you likely can't accept criticism without attributing it to your "men are wonderful" idea. "you shouldn't talk about men at all". You shouldn't talk about men the way a femcel in maximum "men are terrible" rhetoric mode might, but only if the goal is to be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 02:04 PM
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How should i talk about men's issues so that you woudn't call it "but men"? I think everyone here is waiting (with bated breath!) for you to answer that same question vis a vis "men are wonderful".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:48 PM
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The standards for the "debate" tag have definitely declined. Rarely will you find one where the OP is actually open to having their views changed. This OP being a perfect example. I think the mods are balancing between enforcing the rules and making sure their subreddit has free flowing content. If you spend enough time here you'll see that there's a handful of very compulsive posters who are basically given a pass for breaking the rules because they create so much content for PPD. Disappointing…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:40 PM
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And you're "confirming" the "men are wonderful effect" if you challenge their bleak views of the opposite sex in any capacity. Ultimately they're just here to buttress their own increasingly extreme biases. Best to just stay out of their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:27 PM
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Your entire premise is "but men" though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:03 PM
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At this point, I’m done playing the “good girl” role for a payoff that never comes. I’m entering my hoe phase and prioritising my own experience instead of trying to fit an ideal that men say they want but don’t actually choose. And do you think that hoe phase will get you closer to or further away from your stated desire for "something serious"? I'd hate to see you sabotage yourself, but I suppose some women need to experience first-hand the reality that all that glitters isn't gold, so to spea…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 06:24 AM
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The problem is men taking that statement too literally, even if that's too fucking obvious. The problem isn't her wildly overblown rhetoric, but the way that men react to it? glances at the title of the post
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 07:37 AM
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She's their main source of content at this point. Without her daily compulsive rants about men this place just wouldn't be the same. When someone is willing to spend so much of every day of their own lives creating traffic for your subreddit, you let them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 03:29 PM
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This is the most liberal interpretation of the phrase "baby trap" I've ever seen. Would a woman who says "men aren't 'locked in' until they propose" then be "marriage trapping" men? Or are they just pointing out that proposing is an unmistakable expression of commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:05 AM
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Sometimes I wonder whether women would have done the same to men were the positions reversed I recall reading about a social experiment they did with elementary school students where they gave candy to the girls in one round, and candy to the boys in another. When they gave the candy to the boys, the boys shared the candy evenly with the girls. When they gave the candy to the girls however, the girls only shared it with the popular boys. Wish I could find it. Was from a long time ago. But yeah, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 06:40 PM
1

everything women do is justifiable and out of protection not out of hatred to men. Alternatively, it could just be what happens when cripplingly neurotic people try to do risk assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 03:49 PM
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Or of her being a shit communicator. Hard to say, assuming we're not being biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:52 PM
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Not sure why I got downvoted You invoked negative feelings in one of the resident femcels.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:58 PM
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I just read a few threads there and...yup. Sounds accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 07:51 PM
1

It wasn't until the mid 1960s that credit cards became a widespread thing to begin with. In the interim women could use other peoples' lines of credit Betty and Wilma style and never be obligated to pay it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 02:49 PM
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The real tea is that a lot of women often cant attract a half decent man because they're barely half decent themselves. It's bizarre that this is considered a hot take. We can immediately acknowledge that a loser man can't get women because he's a loser, but when it comes to a woman struggling to find a decent man there's always some convoluted reverse uno reasoning used to shield her from any blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:12 PM
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Propaganda is a hell of a drug, and women are seemingly twice as susceptible to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:00 AM
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Interpreting everything as an attack even when it’s just facts is unhealthy. Can't be restated enough. "Women care about money" will be read by so many of the women here as "Women are a bunch of amoral gold diggers!", and the marathon of tilting at windmills that it provokes in them makes the prospect of any meaningful discussions extremely unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:13 PM
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However you'd respond to me if I asked: "If feminism is so great, why are nearly all feminists insufferable man-hating crazy cat ladies?" is the same response that your question deserves. So feel free to answer your own question.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:47 AM
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It'd cut down approximately half of the bad faith bullshit that goes on around here I'd say.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:40 AM
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They shouldn't, assuming "not pulling his weight" is an objectively true statement and not just her way of deflecting all of the blame for a dysfunctional relationship onto the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:32 AM
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There's a lot of bitching in both directions. One would have to be willfully ignorant to believe otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:08 AM
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often reveal that they see relationships as the cost of sex, not the goal itself. There's something to be said about so many men starting to feel this way about women. Maybe when (if?) we get past the "everything is men's fault!" phase we can start more openly discussing why that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:49 PM
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The one I use for PPD? She'd probably tell me while holding back her laughter that the femcels I like to poke fun at have it hard enough already.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 03:01 AM
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Why would what she did before you matter? Why would the womanizing he did before you matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 02:39 AM
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murderous rage isn’t an emotion we often get unprovoked. It's only because their flailing fists don't carry much risk of murder that we don't call the unprovoked rage they frequently experience "murderous". I invite you to look up the statistics on which gender is overwhelmingly more non-reciprocally violent towards the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 03:32 PM
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And yet there are so many forms of violence that don’t kill you. Here are some interesting statistics on domestic violence. Its only purpose is to minimize the lived experiences of millions of women who have been subjected to abuse in their homes. It's par for the course that introducing perspective to something will "minimize" somebody's feelings about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:00 AM
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You do realize that women are in the most danger from intimate partners right? You do realize that sentence is utterly misleading when you don't put it into perspective, right? The odds of a woman being killed by an intimate partner is roughly on par with the odds of dying in a plane crash.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 01:16 AM
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Cool. Assuming he's made it absolutely clear he's on the same page as you vis a vis you doing the proposing then I'm not sure why you care what reddit thinks in the first place. Go get 'em tiger.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:43 PM
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We’ve talked about at length Talking about the idea of marriage at length is not the same as talking about the idea of the woman being the one doing the proposing. Hope that helps!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:41 PM
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I think most bisexual women would very strongly agree with this. So would the fact that the more women there are present in a relationship, the higher the risk of DV seemingly becomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 02:14 AM
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In the post it’s explicitly clear that the marriage is something you’ve discussed and planned together. Doesn't make her doing the proposing any less weird. Why is adherence to gender roles so important to you? It's more about being put off by how important not adhering to gender roles would seemingly be to her than gender roles being important to me. If you want my advice, you should be probing whether or not he'll be OK with you springing a proposal on him. Assume at your own peril.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:09 AM
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I don't know what that is. I just know that pretending men are women has insidious consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 03:06 AM
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Off the top of my head? Championing putting men in women's bathrooms/sports.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 04:29 PM
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Feminism is notoriously non-violent. Which is not an excuse for its insidiousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:54 PM
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I'd see it as her being impatient/desperate, or possibly as her having an ideologically motivated fixation on arbitrarily dismantling gender roles just for the sake of it. All red flags in their own respects.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:43 AM
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So long as we continue to pretend that there's no such thing as "acting single" then we'll never get anywhere with these discussions. So women can go ahead and dress like sluts while in relationships, and men can go ahead and keep libraries of thirst traps in their social media feeds while in relationships, and we'll just keep pretending that both behaviors are totally innocuous and that their partners are just being "insecure" or "controlling" for not liking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:04 AM
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The solution ultimately lies in men taking back their dignity and refusing to tolerate/enable all of the stereotypical Disney princess entitlements we've allowed to fester. No more "I am the table" nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:41 AM
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Was going to say... If you could just convince women to resist the more unscrupulous aspects of their natures then history wouldn't look the way that it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:30 PM
6

Remember "enjoy the decline"? That includes watching men start acting like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 04:07 PM
5

Guess the description fits then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:37 PM
6

Femcels usually don't describe their celibacy as "involuntary" but... you tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:26 PM
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Pretty much the only way to be a femcel is to be grossly obese. Honestly, I think this is changing. I bet most of the more prolific femcels who post here are, in fact, not grossly obese. It's their mentally unstable and terminally online takes about men that are starting to do the heavy lifting as man-repellent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 03:00 PM
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You're right. Men often do have problems maintaining their dignity in this respect. All the more reason to keep spreading awareness about the pitfalls of dating single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 07:46 AM
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I didn't use it as a justification for only slut shaming women. I just added the missing context.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:16 AM
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Former hoes get married all the time. They sure do. Over and over again, and never for long.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:05 AM
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Highest DV/lowest DV rates respectively as well. Also, in straight relationships with DV where only one partner is being abusive, more than 70% of the time that partner is the woman. The way all of these separate data points end up pointing in exactly the same direction really is fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:12 PM
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Obviously women have their struggles. But keep in mind, this is also the gender that likes to say motherhood is the most difficult job on the planet. Sometimes putting these things into perspective is necessary - even if it offends them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:54 AM
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Tit for tat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:38 AM
2

There are also the manosphere with propaganda full of hate against women. Do you think that just fell from the sky? Or do you think maybe the decades of feminist propaganda full of hate against men that preceded it helped to lay that groundwork?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:04 AM
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I've seen my fair share of "nerdy" women plopping themselves into a group of male gamers looking to become "queen of the simps", but I wouldn't go so far as to say all women who game are motivated by this. Definitely a recognizable phenomenon though. If I had to give a controversial take, I'd agree that women generally aren't interested in video games. As in, they don't play the game because they like the game. The game is just the medium that enables social interactions, which is what they're u…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 03:50 PM
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Nope. Just reign in your crazies. Lest you end up grouped with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:34 PM
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Roe vs Wade.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:34 PM
5

It would absolutely be for men's (and also feminism's) well-being that the reasonable feminists put a muzzle on the radical ones. They're the only ones who can - barring the baby and bathwater method that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:32 PM
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You want your rights handed in a silver platter lol Nah. We just wish the more reasonable feminists would put a leash on the radical ones. Barring that, there's always the option of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Which we're already seeing signs of.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:21 PM
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Google Erin Pizzey if you want to see what happens to people who try.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:09 PM
5

The official statistic is that women account for approximately ~50% of domestic violence when it is reciprocal, and more than 70% when it's non-reciprocal (only one person being violent). So I wouldn't even say that men are more violent in context to the opposite sex. Just that their violence leaves more evidence. And also because there's a significant subset of people out there who will use the fact that women's violence is less potent as a reason to excuse it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 02:43 PM
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Just this year 300,000 black womrn were laid off of their jobs. And...is that supposed to be indicative to you that said black women are being "colonized and oppressed" by single childless men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:31 AM
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They state the half truth that they're "happily single". What they're not telling you is that they're only comparing "happily single" with the worst possible caricature of a shitty relationship, which is ultimately a coping mechanism for the fact that they're absolutely not happily single.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 11:04 PM
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PPD has become a place to watch the terminally online women slowly self-destruct after themselves having overdosed on too much red pill content.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 07:05 PM
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The "nice guy" strategy these women use to permanently excuse themselves from offering reciprocal effort is brilliant. Sociopathic as hell, but brilliant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 06:34 PM
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but if you offer solutions to make it safe then I'll listen. That's nobody's prerogative. If you don't want kids because it'll affect your body aesthetically, then just don't have them. You've got your priorities figured out already. All you have to do is stick to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 03:14 PM
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pregnant women already have the main cause of death as homicide A true testament to how safe we've made pregnancy through medical advancements.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:21 PM
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Please elaborate on how you came to this twisted conclusion. It's just the standard (and ironic) "women are just objects, slaves to the will of men" angle that they trot out whenever they sense that they're about to be pinned with the consequences of their own free will.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:08 PM
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Girls 12-22 have been internalizing narratives about "patriarchal oppression" for generations at this point. It oughtn't surprise us that men would eventually start participating in the same pathological behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:07 PM
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Ultimately the only reason to ask women this question is to have them help you realize that asking women this question is a futile endeavor.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 09:45 AM
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sexual health coach for men. The ol' prostitute's gambit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 03:03 AM
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Babies are made when women say "I want a baby". They're not made, and sometimes even unmade when women say "I don't want a baby." Simple as.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:43 PM
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Address the man's unilateral choice to nut The various penal codes that exist for rape and the complete lack of societal expectations that a woman be made to carry the baby. Or were you using the word "unilateral" incorrectly?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:38 PM
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And that it's male orgasms that lead to babies And totally has nothing to do with any of the choices that women unilaterally make in the process, right? This is why the jokes about women's complicated relationship with accountability exist, and the punchline just keeps getting funnier.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:07 PM
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This is ironic, because men don't decide whether or not babies result from sex. Women do. Exclusively, in fact. So who's really refusing to take accountability by saying "men create single moms"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 02:32 PM
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I wouldn't call it "wisdom". More like an exponentially accelerating sense of angst and the various strange, often self-sabotaging behaviors that accompany it. Looking at the "4B" girls. Was there something about the premise you disagreed with? That as far as sex is concerned, any woman can get a man? Or was it just the tone you didn't like?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 04:47 AM
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I've never known a slut's behavior to be explained by "she just really likes men!". Though I can see how it might appear that way from the outside. It's being validated by men (plural) that they like, often in a "my father never loved me" type of way. Which is a critically important distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 05:34 PM
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I got one of those the other day as well. Also in the past someone tried using my name in the PPD discord (which I've never been to) to pose as me and try to get me banned from here for "doxxing". The femcels are getting a little bit angsty it would seem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:26 AM
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I'm thinking more Blade Runner than "asexual".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 09:16 AM
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Did you know that 1 in 4 women take SSRIs? Also, did you know that one of the more common side-effects of taking SSRIs is paranoia? Women were historically a whole lot more likely to experience bad things in the past than they are "lately", and yet they're seemingly more paranoid about it than ever before. I suspect all of these facts are related to one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 03:23 AM
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There are many women, myself included, who really wish men would stop telling each other "Happy wife happy life." That mindset puts women in a position of having to be the project manager of the relationship If you had to tip toe around a man's ego and always promote his happiness so that he doesn't take away yours, would you interpret that as him being made to be the "project manager" of the relationship? Or would you just see him as a petulant and abusive manchild?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 02:02 AM
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This logic needs work, because arrogance isn't a word defined by the subjective feelings incompatible people have about each other's self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 04:37 PM
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Not at all. Hence the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:47 PM
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I see a lot of men offended by women having self esteem Are you sure it's self-esteem and not just abject arrogance? *ah shit, someone already addressed this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 12:25 AM
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Everyone thinks women are overreacting to everything, even doctors don’t care about our feelings and will even claim actual physical ailments are just our feelings! Do you think doctors just hate/not care about women that they'd put their medical diagnoses ahead of women's feelings? If you believe so, then you may have just helped to explain why "everyone thinks women are overreacting to everything".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:48 PM
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The difference is that men are whining about women not caring. Literally next sentence: I don't think most men are even capable of caring. I love how silly this place can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:31 PM
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No women I know... Sounds like a sample size problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:29 PM
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The view of men here is that any woman can get a man... Do I really need to finish that sentence for you? ...for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:26 PM
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If you can't define feminism based on femcel rhetoric, then you can't define RP based on incel rhetoric. "But look at what the men here say!" as a response to the above just tells me that you either can't comprehend what should be a very simple point, or that you don't intend to engage with it in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:58 PM
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And where in TRP's general philosophy about women does it say that "women are evil for doing/being x y and z"? If you say "RP men say that" then you're going to have to go back and actually answer my original questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:40 PM
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Would it be fair if I went and pulled a bunch of contradictory femcel rhetoric about men to accuse feminism of inconsistency? If not, then why do you think it is with RP?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:58 PM
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The attitude I see from women on here is that they are fine being single. Because the only thing more embarrassing than a man admitting he can't get women is a woman admitting she can't get men. Which is why you'll very rarely ever see a woman frame her singleness as "involuntary".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:35 PM
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It's humorous to me that your statement requires the "on this subreddit" qualifier to not sound utterly backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 05:06 PM
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It's so strange how one moment it's "women were enslaved and oppressed throughout history", and the next it's "women have always had the final word!". Pick a narrative already.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 08:43 PM
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You tell us. Didn't you say all those best bros tried to change you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:24 PM
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I don’t know why men are so opposed to the idea of someone you enjoy spending time with and also get to have sex with. They aren't. It's just that straight men aren't wired to have sexual feelings about and start families with their "best bros".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:15 PM
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The concept of "best bros with benefits raising a family" would indeed probably only resonate with gay men. Quite the catch-22.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 04:20 PM
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Do you expect romance? If so, what do you expect that to look like, given your preference to be treated like one of the guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:33 PM
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It's a fool's game to lead with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:21 PM
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Women tend to be on their best behavior until they get a ring put on it Or a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 03:06 PM
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Most people don't think about problems at a societal scale, the consequences thereof and the countermeasures needed to mitigate them. It doesn't surprise me though that the ones who do are primarily men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 05:37 AM
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Christian ethicist, technically.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:46 PM
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It means that sometimes people's feelings become dissociated from reality and they become consumed by their own ridiculous "gotta win this internet argument" rhetoric. Be it the MGTOW man lamenting that all women are gold digging divorce rapists in waiting, or the 4B woman lamenting that all men just want mommy bangmaids to subjugate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 05:58 AM
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Why do you think women feel mistreated to the point that they decide not to date and be single? For the same reason the DoorDash girl feels like she was sexually assaulted because she saw an unconscious man's penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:29 AM
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Yes, men had lines of credit which women could use, but had no obligation to repay. Hence the humor in Wilma and Betty's flippant use of it. "Women couldn't have credit cards" is what we call a "half truth".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 06:52 PM
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Without being a co-signer, the debt that a woman created was always the man's obligation to pay. The phrase "Charge it!" from The Flinstones was so iconic because of this fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 06:45 PM
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"Women couldn't have credit cards!" "Men were obligated to pay all the debts that a woman incurred." Both were true, but only one ever gets mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 06:19 PM
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Therefore I'll fix it and get myself one. You're going to be disappointed that this "male" body you've created is still thoroughly outdone by the ones that nature made. I only say that because it seems like it'd suck to not realize this until after you've done all the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:45 PM
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We really don't see enough people talking about how badly women are infantilizing themselves by doing this type of stuff. They'll be traumatized if they're accidentally seen naked, and now we're finding that they'll also be traumatized if they accidentally see another person naked as well. Do we need to bring back the fainting couches? They seem to be making a strong case for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:12 PM
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women’s initial “lack of accountability” problem will quickly delve into “lack of agency” problem; and as a result of that, completely backfire against women. This is exactly my suspicion as well. Seems like "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" might need to be updated as "The Feminist Who Cried Misogyny" soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 02:43 PM
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So does her birthday. Or their anniversary.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:36 PM
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But, wouldn't the logical thing to do in such circumstances ... Inform the law enforcement authorities of the incident, and not broadcast the whole thing on social media. So far we've been told by the women here that she might have been "preserving evidence" on tiktok because the police can't be trusted with it, and that she's not a lawyer so she didn't know that opening the door to another person's home, taking pictures of them naked and passed out on their couch, and then posting them on the i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 02:42 PM
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The good thing is it gets a lot of exposure. The only way to raise awareness about how pathological women's in-group bias has become is for things like this to make headlines, and for the women to react exactly the way they are in this thread so that men can see it with their own eyes. The more unhinged the defense, the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 04:49 AM
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"He was drunk.", stated officer Sam. vs "Police stated that he was drunk." Are you telling me one carries more weight than the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:48 PM
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I see articles summarising that police stated that Right. Because that's what news articles do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:19 PM
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Where is that evidence? Ring doorbell video which the police have stated shows her doing so, combined with common sense. If the door had been wide open when she arrived like she claimed/took a picture of, then why would the doorbell video show her pushing it open?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:05 PM
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Well, the evidence in this case shows that she pushed the door open and then lied about the state of the door when she arrived. Would you say in this case she's being written off as a liar? Or just...that she's a liar?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:47 PM
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You applied and then agreed with your own biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:33 PM
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In a way that doesn't lay bare your biases about men's motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:01 PM
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Frame it that way if you'd like. Goes perfectly with the "passport bros are child sex traffickers" narrative you've got going.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:42 PM
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This is the mentality that men need to continue to push towards. Not necessarily immunity to women's shaming, but taking their shaming far less seriously. Shame is a useful societal tool when applied prudently. Unfortunately in being so, it's also ripe for abuse by those who would use it for their own personal benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 03:38 PM
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Extremely bad idea to bring a woman back to a culture that the man felt the need to leave in order to find worthwhile women. She's just going to assimilate, which utterly defeats the purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 02:47 PM
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Per your OP: They invariably are repulsed, or don't actually want it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 06:01 AM
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A virgin. Only thing I can think of, but far from the same level of universality as the examples you gave for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 12:12 AM
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You must not be using the same definition of "attacked" for both scenarios then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 05:16 PM
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I know. I think the "fat women are beautiful" campaign is mostly dead and/or recognized for its shamelessness at this point though, and thank goodness for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 04:26 PM
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Oh they get attacked for it. No more frequently than men get attacked for not liking fat women though. So I'm not sure what point they're trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:13 PM
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A weirdly specific one at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 06:36 AM
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It's perfectly equal. You even made the "seen as a wallet" vs "seen as a maid/sex doll" comparison. If men only ever see you as a maid/sex doll, then there are two possible conclusions: Men are terrible and evil and only care about sex and all the other femcel talking points, or you're doing something (or not doing something) that makes you undesirable to men for anything else. Obviously you've chosen the former explanation. I just think it's both humorous and ironic that if we flipped the gende…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 08:15 PM
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I'd prefer your answer be one of the two options provided, rather than a deflection in the form of another question. Technically it was rhetorical. We both already know the answer. If a man told you "based on what the internet femcels are saying, and what I've seen in real life, women only ever care about my money" the first thing that would come to your mind is that money must be the only interesting thing about this guy. And you'd probably be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 06:51 PM
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If a man came on here and said "Women only ever care about my money!" are you going to recognize that as an indictment of women, or of the guy making the claim? Be honest now...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:55 PM
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Assuming I'm not being used as a guinea pig for its long term side effects, and only as a stop gap until men are given the same offramps from accountability for unplanned pregnancies that women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:14 PM
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You're free to believe it's fair for the father to pretend like he wants to abdicate all responsibility for his offspring; leave the other parent to do 100% of the labor completely on her own, including financially; and then waltz in like nothing happened to benefit at the end. I didn't say it's fair. But speaking of fairness, do you think it would be fair to the child that the mother would stonewall them even as adults from knowing their father because she doesn't think it's 'fair' to her that …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 06:36 AM
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Well it's also completely unfair for the mother "Therefore a permanent restraining order against the father should exist so that he can never reap any of the benefits of the mother's work unless he pays her all of the child support that would have otherwise been due." See how the motive seemingly has nothing to do with the interests of the child, but rather in preventing men from reaping benefits you believe to be undue? Seems pretty vengeful to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 04:25 AM
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Well it's also completely unfair for the mother to do everything and still let the man have any kind of way or in to have any kind of relationship with the child, which is usually the most beneficial and most rewarding after the hard work of raising them has been done. This doesn't sound vengeful to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 03:32 AM
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And should he intentionally violate the restraining order, then the full amount of whatever child support would have been should become due in full to the mother, immediately. Like...even if they're over 18? Even if the child seeks them out themselves? On one hand, I think we already have more than enough perverse incentives out there for women to use their children as tools for vengeance against men, and that sucks for those kids. On the other though...men having reproductive choice would be pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 09:51 PM
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Who else is going to coordinate the 43 throw pillows throughout the house according to size and the time of year?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 03:04 AM
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I think Tate spends way more time in angsty anti-manosphere women's minds than in men's, and I think that's been the case ever since he went mainstream. As for why those women need the red pill to have "leaders" and they need to see those "leaders" as "losers", I couldn't tell you. Probably something to do with all the angst.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:34 PM
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As unconscious forces of nature, sure. But didn't women say they wanted to be treated like rational actors? In that context men have many legitimate reasons to be angry at women. So take your pick. Are you rational actors or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:19 PM
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Oh. Well then... To be fair, IWD came and went without my awareness this year as well, but you're not wrong that one is far more recognized than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 12:48 AM
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Didn't realize that was today until I read the title of your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 12:30 AM
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Once upon a time. Nowadays it's just cheap entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 12:12 AM
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And then be chastised as a "victim blamer" for asking questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 12:42 AM
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A better idea is, “Take all women seriously.” I'm amenable to this, provided we're allowed to stop taking a woman seriously when she's definitively proven that she oughtn't be. That DoorDash woman being a prime recent example.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 12:36 AM
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Nothing I said was framed in a dishonest way. By framing a mutually compromising relationship as "mommy and child", yes you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 07:31 PM
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no one wants to be your mommy This is so disingenuously framed and I can't help but wonder why.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 07:16 PM
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The best relationships occur when both parties endeavor equally to put the other before themselves. Which is indeed an unrealistic concept to a mind motivated by selfishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 06:53 PM
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Sounds like selfishness is the root cause of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 06:12 PM
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I'm saying the idea that you shouldn't have a say in things that don't physically affect you is a concept that would backfire spectacularly in women's faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 03:35 PM
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I can’t honestly believe men who don’t even have periods or even look after kids think they have a say over something that will never physically affect them Be careful with that mentality. It could very easily be flipped on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 03:18 PM
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"Crickets" nothing. That's the part where the woman's emotions boil over and she just shouts "See!! You only ever blame women!".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 06:44 PM
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Because it's doubly embarrassing for them to admit. Imagine there's a pickle jar that neither a man nor a woman can open. Who between the two is going to be more embarrassed about/likely to create excuses for their inability to open it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:34 PM
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they’ll sleep with women who are manipulative, selfish, or even abusive, and act like it’s just fun or excitement. And they'll come out of it saying "don't stick your dick in crazy", in contrast to "teach bad boys not to X". See the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 04:58 PM
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It's not being attracted to 'bad boys' that's the moral failing. It's their inability to resist said attraction combined with their propensity to blame the results on everyone else. Besides, "men too" isn't a counter-argument. It's a deflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 03:17 PM
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That's a strange response.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 05:46 PM
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Do you think MIT doesn't have an arts, humanities and social sciences department?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 03:28 PM
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You're speaking for yourself. No, they pretty much nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 07:45 AM
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To answer the title: Because sex is fun, and the problems with high maintenance women primarily come with being in relationships with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 07:38 AM
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In a culture where marriages are on the statistical precipice of failing more often than not? Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 03:33 AM
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I suspect in either case, the motivation behind it is to keep new posts flowing since the activity around here seems to have dropped off a cliff lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 09:40 PM
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I don't know if they're filing it under "shit I'll throw in his face later" in the moment, but they rarely have qualms with doing so if at a later date you make them angry about something unrelated. A woman's morals are often tied to her mood. It's a tricky puzzle for men to navigate, but one thing is for sure - giving a woman ammo to use against you when she's angry is never a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:34 PM
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Strange that the mods are letting her break the "don't post compulsively" rule by posting ...what is it, at least 2 but possibly 3 separate posts within 24 hours at this point?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 03:39 PM
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the issue is schools are full of women teaching I suspect this has a lot more to do with the issues men are having in academia than the Overton window will allow us to acknowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:04 PM
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Have any specific examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 04:54 PM
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I act in a stereotypical redpill way What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 04:43 PM
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Imagine not being safe anywhere you go, how the f*ck are you gonna get away since you seem like your so intelligent to ask such an question? Go into their phone's settings and turn off location.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 03:22 PM
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Women if they're dating psychopaths. Men if they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:42 AM
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Frankly, for how tenuous the durability of marriage has become culturally, any SAHW/M arrangements end up being an equally bad idea for both parties. Why build castles on foundations of sand?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:06 PM
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No, that doesn't contradict It does, given that "the vast majority of women are voluntarily celibate" has always been the narrative, rather than one that's only used when convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:57 PM
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I don't care what you call it. Do you at least care that it contradicts your insinuations about changing narratives? When women say that they are single there is a flood of men saying that she isn't, she fucks left and right. Well, does she? It's not like a woman being single and fucking left and right are mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:40 PM
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That's literally the original narrative though - that women can't be 'incels', and are therefore referred to as 'femcels', which is a derivative of 'emcel' or "emotionally celibate".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:19 PM
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Not because you're trying to convey specific ideas that are more nuanced than just "mad"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:25 PM
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If someone is livid, they are mad. So then what's the point of the word "livid" if you can just say "mad"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:17 PM
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It's just tribalism at the end of the day. "That person isn't on my 'team' so I have to argue against everything they say."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:12 PM
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Are "livid" and "mad" the same word to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 03:05 PM
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The more smitten a man is by a woman, the less effort she has to put into the relationship to keep him around. Essentially those men are the "low maintenance" options.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 02:54 PM
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I love how well their reply to this comment accentuated its accuracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 04:53 PM
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Yes it is because im not guilty of it You're contradicting yourself here. To answer "yes" means you believe you are guilty of other women's behavior by association of being a woman. anyways im practically invincible from ever getting stabbed by any sword. ... I suspect you don't appreciate the meaning of the phrase "fall on the sword" if you think that. People who have had bad expereinces learns from them and avoid making the same mistake. Sometimes. That's hardly an adequate reason to think you…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:36 PM
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your job as a man Hmm. Is it your job as a woman to fall on the sword for other women's behavior as well? Her "damage" will never be an issue if you are innocent as many men claim to be. Damaged people don't limit their collateral damage to the guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 03:42 PM
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...Huh? Men can't be picky about avoiding women that may be damaged, because other men damaged them? Is this supposed to be some kind of gendered original sin?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 02:28 PM
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One in four relationships have some form of domestic abuse. Of those relationships, approximately half are reciprocally abusive, and the other half are non-reciprocally abusive. Of the non-reciprocally abusive relationships, women are the perpetrators of said abuse more than 70% of the time. How does this figure into your theory? Or does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:06 PM
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I own a gym and I can confirm that our demographics used to primarily be older people just looking to get some cardio done. Now the demographic has shifted significantly younger, and significantly towards free weights/strength training. Business has never been better either. Silver lining to this hopelessly vain culture I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:50 PM
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I'm describing about what I witnessed and saw first hand. And then trying to ascribe it onto the words of other people even after they've corrected you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 05:46 PM
1

"Actually it's men's fertility on the shorter clock." What motivates this stark departure from observed reality? Is this women's new frontier in self-deception? Or are they just trying to flip the script on what they feel is a hurtful narrative about their own limited windows of fertility without actually believing any of it? I hope for their own sake that it's the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 04:47 PM
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Thats why i stopped having these discussions with people. It's why I've come to treat PPD strictly as a form of cheap entertainment. It's a place to witness how wildly out of touch with reality people will allow their rhetoric to become to support whatever "team" they think they're fighting for. Like toddlers debating whose dad would win in a fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 03:26 PM
-1

To me that is very telling about how they really feel. If you create a system where perceptions of oppression take precedent over merit, then people will inevitably start questioning whether or not the beneficiaries of that system have equal merit. And why wouldn't they, given the nature and implications of said system?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 04:13 PM
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All modern relationship problems are seen through the lens of "men aren't enough", yet it's just as valid to say "women are too much" - but that is never said. That's a really good summary.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 03:42 PM
-3

What feminine cultural norms are harmful to men in the workplace? HR departments.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 03:40 PM
3

Protip: 50/50 they were the abuser. Technically 70/30.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 02:55 PM
1

We had a thread yesterday insisting that it's men and not women who have biological clocks. This is the state of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 03:54 PM
2

Making wildly false statements is certainly one way to grab attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 03:07 PM
2

I don’t see anywhere in the OP where they state that women’s fertility doesn’t decrease with age. It's in the title. "Men are cooked, new study shows men are the ones with the biological clock, not women"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:34 AM
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I must be underestimating how profoundly this topic affects some women's psyches if this is how far removed from reality they're willing to go to soothe their feelings about it. I don't think the utility of that kind of self-deception could ever outweigh the potential consequences that it invites, but maybe they know something I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 01:21 AM
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Technically I used what you said against you. It's a good thing that men are more capable of dealing with violence, given that we expect them to absorb women's.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 02:26 PM
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Men are more dangerous than women Thankfully so, given that women have a tendency to commit a lot more one-sided violence against their partners with relative impunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 09:54 PM
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Man never have to worry that woman will beat him for fucking sake. Non-reciprocal intimate partner violence is actually an incredibly common problem with women. We just excuse it because of the perception that men "should be able to handle it". When only one person is throwing punches, the odds are really good that it's the woman throwing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 03:52 PM
1

If a woman is overtly interested in him, he might just go along with it for the free sex and never have any intention of anything serious. This makes for the perfect cover story for the women who never want to put themselves out there and risk rejection by expressing overt interest, so...you're welcome? For almost all men, the ideal endgame is finding their version of a Disney princess they want to spoil and commit to. That's the spoiled Disney princess's ideal endgame, not men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 03:35 PM
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People who are forced to have kids that they don't want make HORRIBLE parents. Ironic then that we force men to be fathers. That's another topic though. Women absolutely leave their kids. It's just that the ways they do are sanctioned by society, which we should apparently "be glad for".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 06:04 PM
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Women don't leave their kids They abort a whole lot of them though. Surrender a whole lot of them to social services and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:27 PM
2

Why do you suppose women who were cheated on end marriages at much higher rates than men who were cheated on, given that both genders cheat at approximately the same rate?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:25 PM
2

They are fucking mean. Incredibly cruel to autistic women. They will make entire group chats to talk about how much they hate a woman because she didn’t follow the exact correct social steps. Or because they decided to superimpose meaning on to what she has said. Are you trying to say that women are especially cruel to autistic women for those reasons? Because you could remove "autistic" from the above and it'd still be perfectly true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 09:10 PM
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Most men don't offer a good relationship that's what you men are missing. Humorously enough, if I typed that same sentence back at you, but with "women" instead of "men", you'd call it sour grapes. Something to think about. Why do you think women initiate MAJORITY of the divorces. If we're to believe the usual narrative that the resident blue pill women often throw around here when confronted with those statistics: "because they submit the majority of the paperwork, irrespective to who initiated…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 08:22 PM
2

If it's coping mechanisms we're talking about then we should probably start with the sentence "most women are choosing to be single". Putting aside the utter statistical inaccuracy of that statement, even the women who say they're choosing to be single will tell you that being single is the disappointing consolation prize to being in a good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 06:46 PM
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Most women aren't choosing to be single, and the women who loudly proclaim their singleness to be a choice they've consciously made have approximately the same level of credibility as the kid in high school who insists he has a girlfriend that goes to a different school.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:57 PM
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How did that look? What were women doing to persuade men to marry them? Dropping handkerchiefs and making eye contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:17 PM
1

What responsibilities do men have that women don't have? Women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 04:56 PM
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Overall spending: Single men outspent single women. Men spent an average of $41,203 a year as opposed to $38,838 by women. It’s important to note, though, that the median earning data from the Census Current Population Survey found that overall, women are paid about 17% less than men. So despite allegedly making 17% less than men, single women still spend approximately ~94% as much as single men? Fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 04:08 PM
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Nope, by sluts they hate everything. Hating the idea of being in relationships with sluts is not the same as hating sluts though. You've probably had sex with slutty men you'd not want a relationship with. Does that sufficiently demonstrate that you hate those men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 08:29 PM
1

Give us an example of what this might look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:48 PM
0

I see extremely little empathy from red pill men to the challenges women face. The lack of empathy you see among men towards women is the byproduct of the same problem that has existed in the opposite direction for a much longer time. We'd probably be solving both problems if we addressed the original one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:38 PM
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By sluts? Yeah, I could see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 02:16 PM
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"No woman has been triggered by the word 'slut' since the early 2000s." Astonishing. How do people type shit like this and not realize how badly they're affecting their own credibility? I'm glad they do, I just can't help but wonder how they don't catch themselves in the middle of typing it and think "maybe I should tone this rhetoric back a little bit so that people might take me more seriously".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 11:29 PM
5

Well apparently the young people are losing their ability to appreciate the nuances that differentiate two similar concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 11:13 PM
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Like I said i use well executed evidence to support my claims. Have you ever heard of the Dunning-Kruger effect?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 10:07 PM
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Remember how many women were watching Tate content? Probably the same concept. Rage porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:47 AM
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I suspect the popularity of "red pill" spaces grows exponentially not based on its advice about becoming the best "Chad" you can be, but on its unabashedness in calling women out on the types of things you mentioned. It was just an obscure 'Chateau' (I wonder how many people get that reference) back when it was just about getting fit, learning game and being the best "PUA" (pick up artist) you can be. Now it's becoming something more like a vehicle for men to air their grievances about women, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 02:15 PM
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Why wouldn't you want someone who is as ambitious or as successful as you? Because I'd want kids, and ambitious women often have 101 reasons not to have them. Also because I already have the success part covered, and another chef in that kitchen would be unnecessary. I'd rather they be good at things I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 02:21 AM
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There isn't, and you've already figured out why. Women don't listen to men. We've really gotten ourselves into one hell of a Catch-22 with this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 03:53 PM
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I don't know what 4B is -- someone enlighten me. It's basically WGTOW for South Korean women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 06:41 AM
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Option 1 unless she has a problem with me having sex with other women, in which case option 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 03:08 PM
1

Seems foolish. You'd think some of the biggest beneficiaries of civilization would be more invested in its continuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 11:46 AM
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Never have I seen a single woman complain that men don't want her. That's because they'd never word it in a way that might invite personal criticism. Instead it'll come out as "men are trash and only want one thing" or "where are all the good men?" or something to that effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 09:37 PM
1

I don't know. See above.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 09:12 PM
1

I don't know. Is there or isn't there one? The narrative on that one always seems to change based on the convenience of the person invoking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 01:41 AM
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I'm sure they do, and I'm sure it's approximately as useful as the advice they get from the fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 12:10 AM
2

they also will dismiss married men's opinion Because what boils down to "happy wife, happy life" is more a coping mechanism for the man who had to sell his boat than it is a form of actionable advice for men who want to catch fish. Patrice O'Neal did a whole bit on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 05:32 PM
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Actions show that women would rather do neither but that the ones who would will, despite their vehement denial, tolerate being one more than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 07:16 PM
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Probably to delineate how actions speak louder than words.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 03:04 PM
4

you expect any woman to say mistress to a king? Of course not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 02:54 PM
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What's PPD without intellectual dishonesty though? Once upon a time the women of PPD would say "the red pill only works on insecure women!" now they've gone full blown "the red pill doesn't work at all!" Ultimately it hurts their credibility because even they don't believe what they're saying, and everyone knows it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 01:24 AM
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Put a pool of piranhas behind the treadmill and you'll probably get better performance out of the person running on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:54 PM
1

Is the Irish pale because you rarely leave your house for more than necessary reasons? Because that'd be a strong lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:28 PM
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Assuming "valuable to you" is in the context that a woman would want to be valued, neither would be very valuable to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 06:40 AM
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Lets point out that Adam also made the same mistake from the same ignorance, yet men aren't telling each other that their gender should carry any blame for it. It's not about blame. It's about warding against being led astray in the way that men are most likely to be so, which every human civilization is replete with allegories and metaphors about. Ishtar, Eve, Sirens, Succubi, Onryō and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 11:33 PM
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If there’s a “truth” you believe to this degree no answer other than the one you want will satisfy you. I don't see how this statement follows, given that the "truth" in this case is one that you yourself have acknowledged "the whole world knows".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 09:51 PM
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What do you think it will prove or show you? See my previous comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:01 PM
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I’m not sure why you’re asking women when the whole world knows what standards exist. Maybe to see if they'll answer truthfully about the things the whole world knows about?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 05:19 AM
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The reason women say that is that the fact that you need to find someone attractive is so obvious it’s assumed. How does that make it any less inappropriate of a response to the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:11 PM
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The second one. Usually poorly, which famously always circles around to being the man's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:17 PM
3

Because what's not to enjoy about a soap opera full of crazy characters with whom you can interact?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:34 PM
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I know quite a few men over the years who have 'given up' but changed their tune once they got romantic attention. MGTOW had a phrase for this: "One blowjob away from going back to the plantation" or something to that effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:15 PM
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Would you think of a man who jumps from woman to woman to woman as being equally valuable to you as a man who very carefully and deliberately invests his interest? If not, then are you "incentivizing misogyny"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 04:46 PM
1

Yes. Women want casual sex because they like sex too, and because they have nothing to gain from being motivated to induce artificial scarcity in its supply to men. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 02:49 PM
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"Because women like sex too and their treating it like a tool/currency to get what they want is just a figment of men's imaginations." Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 02:21 PM
2

I'm not seeing the point of the pictures. Are you trying to suggest that appearances are what determine a person's sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 04:38 AM
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That sexuality is entirely dependent on genitalia and not a combination of factors? That "straight sex" is categorically the only kind of sex that biological males and biological females can have with one another, no matter what they identify as.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 04:24 AM
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So if you’re a man and you’re into him, you’re straight? If you had sex with them it'd be straight sex, because appearances aren't what determine a person's sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 03:12 AM
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Would sleeping with a trans man make it straight sex? If that trans man is a biological woman, then yes. Just like it would still be straight sex and not bestiality if that trans man identified as a golden retriever instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 02:55 AM
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Some may say your question in and of itself is gaslighting. Glad somebody said it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 03:29 PM
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You just gave three examples of the goomba fallacy, for which "that doesn't happen" is often the only appropriate response. No wonder you keep hearing it. I see no evidence of the phrase being used for gaslighting purposes as a response to those particular questions in any case.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 06:07 PM
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But we would need to know the question to know if "that doesn't happen" was actually used in the context you're suggesting that it was. I suspect maybe it wasn't. I suspect there's nuance getting left out, and maybe ironically so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 04:46 PM
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this happens This as in the below? For example there is a lot of shaming women with high body count, calling them low value, trash, laughing stock etc. I've asked a question related to it and the answer were "that doesn't happen". If we don't know what your "question related to it" was then we can't know in what context to take "that doesn't happen". I suspect your question carried more presuppositions than just "women with high body counts get shamed" though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 04:22 PM
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I know. Hence my suspicion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 02:12 PM
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I have a feeling "That doesn't happen on the scale you're alluding to." is having all of its nuance taken away because "that doesn't happen" is an easier statement for the OP to call "gaslighting".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 01:34 PM
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Yep! Way fewer women have died from swimming in rivers full of hippos than to intimate partners, so swimming in rivers full of hippos is clearly the statistically safer activity to participate in! Is this what herding lemmings feels like?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 05:16 PM
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I'm surprised how upfront some of the women are being about this. They've essentially admitted that they want men to start participating in the social ostracism of other men who don't toe the line of women's interests at whatever personal expense to themselves that it entails. Basically "men should fall on the sword for our sake." I think Dave Chappelle's quote about chivalry is going to apply here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 04:00 PM
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People who can't retire without social security.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 01:53 PM
2

The review states that the studies they have analysed have not given any causation for the initial violence. And my question to you is if you think what you filled that gap with sounds plausible in your mind as a meaningful confounding factor for why 70+% of non-reciprocal domestic violence is committed by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 11:38 PM
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That women's 70+% share of "non-reciprocal domestic violence" can be attributed to women defending themselves against their male partners who were threatening them? Does that actually sound plausible in your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 10:09 PM
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If a guy is threatening a woman and she shoves him out of the way to escape that would count as "non-reciprocal" violence. I can appreciate the solidarity you have with your gender that you'd come to its defense with this type of rationalization, but you're testing the limits of the "women are wonderful" effect to suggest that the non-reciprocal domestic violence that women commit actually might just be them defending themselves against men who were "threatening" them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 09:16 PM
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They should have said "Women are more likely to perpetuate non-reciprocal intimate partner violence than men." Which is true. More than 70% of the time when only one side is being violent, the violent party is the woman. So the mental imagery of an abused woman cowering in the corner as a man stands over her with a balled up fist is actually the other way around 7 times out of 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:17 PM
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I think she probably has no idea what natural selection looks like, nor how many lucky stars she has to count that she's not subject to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 09:32 PM
2

Two questions: One: Do you know what a "medical divorce" is and why people do it? Two: Did you know that the studies cited about "men leaving their cancer-diagnosed wives" don't differentiate medical divorces from regular divorces in the statistics?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 12:31 AM
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What about multiple women - but still with no actual evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 09:49 PM
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Do you think a woman's accusation should be enough to disqualify a man from running for office? That's a lot of power to give to women. Are you sure they won't abuse it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 09:07 PM
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Don’t try to make the argument that men are so victimized that they can’t... They're not trying to steal women's bread and butter tool away from them. They're just saying that men are often viewed suspiciously around children - and that will obviously motivate many of them to avoid children. No "victimhood" narratives required. Just a simple prediction of human behavior based on incentives/disincentives.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 01:59 PM
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propagated by feminists who want to feel superior and weirdos with a victim complex Also by the '4B' types of women doing their 'crabs in a bucket' routine.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 01:41 PM
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If you say women can be shitty most people will agree Just don't say how they can be shitty, because that's where you run into problems. It's fine to say there's a problem. It's not fine to define what the problem is. Like I said, bizarre times.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 10:06 PM
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if they are not good people leave them alone. Don't go into the particulars of how women can be shitty people though or you'll be chastised, ironically in many cases by the very same people who say "women can be shitty". We live in bizarre times.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:53 PM
1

A woman’s options never truly run out. There are some pretty big asterisks associated with this statement, but it is technically true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:29 AM
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The point I'm trying to make is that men don't need to make the distinction between hookup material and relationship material until long after they've approached, such that there won't be a distinction in the way that they approach. They're out to "rizz" as the kids say, no matter what category the woman will ultimately fall into.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 05:59 PM
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Men don't need to decide on the spot if a woman is just hook up material or if she's worth long term commitment. That's something we decide later as we learn more about her. So no, there's no real distinction until she's demonstrated to us that there ought to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 04:51 PM
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Raising a kid isn't suddenly worth a million dollars because you're married to a millionaire. Bold this statement right here and send it right to the top of the comment chain.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:30 PM
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Don't like it don't get married Seems to be the smartest move. Now if we could just address the equally out of touch "common law marriage" stuff in the places where that's a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:26 PM
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I think there's an important distinction not being made here between a woman infantilizing a man, and a man wanting to be infantilized.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 01:44 PM
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force him to go and get treatment I'm just not seeing how a woman forcing a man to see a doctor is an example of a man wanting to be infantilized.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 12:41 AM
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I'm sure men are notorious for not meeting women's standards of cleanliness or frequency of doctor visits. I don't think those are very good examples of men wanting to be infantilized though. Got anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 10:46 PM
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There is no greater proof against male superiority than its need to constantly assert itself. There's no greater proof for male superiority than the feminist notion that women only don't do X Y or Z "because men won't let them". Round and round we go.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 06:45 PM
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Lol so every men just learns to manoeuvre around the dysfunction Women want us to infantilize them, but they don't want us to do it in a way that makes them feel like they're being infantilized. The red pill summarizes the above as "amused mastery". A bizarre but ultimately necessary skill for men who would date women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:18 PM
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Women, pre and post menopause, will always have more options than the average man. Quantity of options for women is utterly unremarkable and they'll tell you that themselves. It's the quality of their many options that declines.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 12:50 AM
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You suggested that because women have more in-group bias, they're the only ones calling men out on shitty behavior. In-group bias doesn't compel women to call out men. It compels them to not call out women. I see you already disagreed on that point with another commenter but your rationale isn't very compelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 05:28 PM
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Because we have more in group bias, we are the ones calling only men out on shitty behavior I moved the word "only" forward a bit in your sentence to more accurately describe the problem that an in-group bias creates.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 04:44 PM
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one third to one half of women experience sexual assault at the hands of men. You're combining "sexual harassment" and "sexual assault" into the same "thing" happening to women to get numbers like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 03:24 PM
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Chesterton's Fence Oh cool, I never knew there was actually a phrase for this idea that society has seemingly discarded in favor of what I call "pathological progressivism".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:40 AM
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With a man they have to 'push' into marriage? Seems like a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 04:54 PM
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Young and pretty is ultimately just a proverbial foot in the door. If the only value a man brought was his money, and he was in a constant state of fear about being taken advantage of by gold diggers, whose fault is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:36 PM
1

I already answered at what threshold I would donate a kidney. Where's yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 05:29 PM
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If I had a kid and they needed one, I'd gladly give it. Would you not?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 05:11 PM
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At the price of the convenience of those who would otherwise undo the lives of unborn humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 04:59 PM
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To others its like voting whether or not unborn humans have a right to life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 03:47 PM
3

it's a kind of conditioning One that's often and easily overcome (for good or bad) in the presence of "ripped".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 03:19 PM
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You can rationalize resisting what you're attracted to as you've just done, but that's not the same as not being attracted to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 02:51 PM
1

Do you not think there's a difference between being cautious, and being neurotic?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 01:52 PM
0

I'd have provided an example if my statement needed one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 02:58 AM
6

All of this reads like a revenge fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:16 PM
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You'd have a point if it weren't for the fact that women seem to be struggling just as much in dating. Creating arbitrary minimum numbers of dates/months before having sex thinking it will combat being 'pumped and dumped', flocking to gossip/doxxing apps to figure out if they're dating the same guys, bluffing about swearing off men with movements like 4B, and just the meteoric rise of the femcel archetype in general either suggests that women aren't benefiting men's lives in equal measure, or th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 01:30 PM
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If you don't complain about the dumb choices you make as though they weren't your dumb choices then nobody is going to care what you do or who you date.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 12:34 PM
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That wouldn't make women living in a constant state of fight or flight about rape any less prone to their neurotic tendencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:10 AM
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Maybe because we live in constant fight or flight about being raped by men? SSRIs do seem to help overly neurotic women get over these types of fears.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:54 AM
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Something about glass houses and throwing stones...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:33 AM
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women are just trying really hard to make it a thing since they're triggered that men are doing it Remember WGTOW? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:10 AM
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Women are neurotic but it's beneficial to them. To a point. Beyond which it becomes very much the opposite for not only themselves but for everyone who has to deal with them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:03 PM
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There's cautious, and there's neurotic. It's extremely important to be able to distinguish between the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:07 PM
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Women pretty regularly attach covert contracts to sex. If they didn't, then the very concept of "being used for sex" would be just as alien to them as it is to men. Clearly it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 12:01 AM
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She will end up feeling crazy, used and upset because some guy pretended to like her and played with her emotions just to use her body. She'll feel that way for sure, but whether or not she was actually used requires looking at more than just how she feels about the situation. Jumping to conclusions before at least hearing his side of the story would be extremely irresponsible. Men will make out like all the assets are there's yet have their wife doing unpaid labor for them for 10+ years. If she…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 04:10 PM
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Seems like LARPing as "blue pill men" is a common femcel pass time around here. Some of those girls have so comprehensively bought into their "patriarchal oppression" narratives that they genuinely believe putting "man" in their flair makes people take them more seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:32 PM
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Most women are treated quite badly by men The world would look quite a bit different if that were actually the case. Most serial killers and rapists are men. "Most baby murderers are women." ^ An equally misleading statement, and for the same reason. Most people who suddenly decide to live their partner when she is pregnant or has a toddler is men. If men were the ones getting pregnant and unilaterally deciding which women were obligated against their wills to be mothers then I imagine you'd see…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 12:38 AM
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Depends on whether or not her only concern is with being a contrarian to what she calls "incel adjacent rhetoric".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 06:05 PM
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If we use your reductionist take of what "treated like chad" is, sure. The OP's take seems to have more nuance though, so that's what I'm interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:53 PM
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Everything that "deserves to be treated like Chad" by a woman entails, but appropriately gender-flipped.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:23 PM
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Would you also say that women who aren't as pretty as "Stacy" don't deserve to be treated like "Stacy"? Genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:03 PM
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So long as you frame red pill ideas in a way that women can't interpret as an attack on their gender, all of the controversy disappears funnily enough. Granted the effort involved in that can make for a tedious experience, so I (and probably most men) usually just go with the first rule of fight club in my real life dealings.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 05:44 PM
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Or outside of hoping what they're doing becomes a committed relationship. Ergo, a woman's "interest in casual sex" has little bearing on whether or not she functionally participates in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:23 PM
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I bet you don't even disagree with the premise that most women don't see the sex they're having as "casual".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:35 AM
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Do you think you need to know most women to recognize that most women attach expectations (hidden or otherwise) to sex? Rhetorical question.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:22 AM
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Nah I know women who’ve knowingly hooked up with guys despite being very aware that they wouldn’t want to commit to those men. I do too. How does that challenge what I said about most women though?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 12:12 AM
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Most women don't see what they're doing with attractive men as "casual sex". They see it as a step in cementing a relationship. In my experience, "it was only casual" is more often than not a post hoc face-saving thing that women do (sometimes men too) when things don't work out as they'd hoped.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 11:38 PM
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"Should people who are irrelevant to this medical procedure get to have an opinion on the medical procedure?" What was the actual wording? I can't imagine this was it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:01 AM
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Start holding men accountable For what exactly? And what would that even look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:27 PM
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Is this supposed to be a satire of how pathological the "women are wonderful" effect can become?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:00 PM
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I'm trying to figure out whether or not the OP actually wants to normalize polyandry, or if they just see it as a means to an end to remove the stigma associated with women having high body counts. Either way, doesn't seem very well thought out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:00 AM
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So... dress and pose sexy? If the goal is to sell sex to men, then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 05:44 PM
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You're using money being sent as the differentiating factor here but I wonder how OK you'd be with the "not that serious" equivalent where men browse through and comment on instagram thirst traps?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 04:34 PM
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The one on the left seems like she has an ego three times as large as the one on the right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 03:36 PM
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I think the stigma associated with its use for women will be harder to overcome, since it will always be viewed as the greater failure that a woman who wants a relationship would have to settle for a parasocial one with AI. I don't doubt that they'll ultimately use them just as much though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:39 PM
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Entertainment value. It's like a soap opera full of silly characters that I get to interact with. Sometimes I find myself slipping into trying to engage in debate but there's just too much bad faith flying around for that to be a smart idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 10:35 PM
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Accurately stating that men respond to what women reward is not blaming women It's just that the more neurotic ones always perceive it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 03:19 PM
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FTFY. I don't think you're supposed to use this acronym when modifying your own statements. Anyway, the point is that whether a woman contributes minimally, or if she supplies the business plan, she will be legally entitled to half of the spoils.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:07 PM
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If it's only going to lead to terminally online takes then yes, god forbid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:34 PM
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There’s a reason she got half. She would have gotten half even if there wasn't a reason. So kind of a moot point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:28 PM
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Crash outs do not necessarily require there to be no facts present. Not that I think any of the "facts" they're speaking about are actually facts. Rather they appear to be, as another poster put it, "terminally online takes".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:12 PM
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I suppose nowadays the kids call it a 'crash out' instead. Here are some snippets: wipe your husband's ass, chew his food for him and spit it back in his mouth modern men are so bitter and hateful towards women women are essentially products that you are entitled to there's this psychotic level of entitlement towards women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:03 PM
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Didn't there used to be a rule about "no rants"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:42 PM
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I was responding to the question in the title. If you want me to answer why tall men invoke feelings in women, well that's just evolution doing its thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:37 AM
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"Believe all women" immediately comes to mind, and all of its #MeToo era spinoffs that exposed how a lot of women feel about their allegations not overriding a man's right to due process.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:06 PM
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Everything from rationalizing shallow preferences to wanting due process for men thrown out the window.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 04:23 PM
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My point is that different people have difference experience Can you acknowledge at least that when thousands of people share their anecdotes, distinct patterns of the human condition start to emerge which become increasingly difficult to simply dismiss as anecdotal?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:23 AM
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One last time. Can you provide an example of the red pill condoning the actions of legitimate abusers? Or are you prepared to rescind the strawman? If neither, then we'll just have to agree to disagree and end this exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:10 AM
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I explained how we go from what red pill actually says: "women should consider how they contributed" to the "red pill doesn't hold abusers accountable!" strawman that you've just employed the use of. How about you give me an example of how the red pill doesn't hold abusers accountable since it's your claim to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:42 PM
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Did I contest the idea that you were holding women accountable? Or did I contest your statement that "in redpill eyes", the abuser is not held accountable?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:20 PM
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Feel free to tell me how I misinterpreted the quoted sentence. Do you or do you not believe "in redpill eyes" that the abuser bears no responsibility for abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:37 PM
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The problem is that abuser bears none in redpill eyes. Not true. Nobody is absolving abusers of abuse. What they're doing is asking women to consider their own actions and behaviors, and how they may have contributed to being in that situation in the first place. Unless you believe women are simply will-less objects to be acted upon, then this is a perfectly valid thing to point out. It's always at this point that the "you're excusing abusers!" and "victim-blaming!" strawmen get trotted out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:28 PM
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The stated intention of the app is literally "helping women date safe". So yes, that should be what the red flag means. We all know it isn't though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 07:56 PM
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Look at the ratio of red flags to green flags. Are we to believe all of those men are "dangerous to women's safety"? Even more humorous, the more red flags, the more attractive the men appear to become - compared to all of the "average" guys with one or two red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 07:21 PM
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70,000+ driver's licenses and pictures with metadata still attached. Metadata being the coordinates of the location that the picture was taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:48 PM
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"You" was more of a general statement. Google the Tea app data leak if you want to learn more. It's pretty bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:37 PM
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At this point you should get rid of it because its track record in keeping women's personal data secure is...not great.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:32 PM
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This has already been demonstrated by the AWDTSG facebook groups. AI-generated pictures of men were created and posted on those groups. Men that literally don't exist were getting "bad reviews" by women who claimed to have dated them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 01:26 PM
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That would make your argument “yeah, most women might be married to men who aren’t over 6 feet or rich, but all those women probably don’t LIKE their partners, and would rather have tall rich men instead?” No, that'd be you putting words in people's mouths.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:59 AM
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“it’s a fact that most women already are willing to date men even if they aren’t white, tall or rich” Do you think "willing to" is synonymous with "wants"? Because that's what we're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:44 AM
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I think RP’s advice to “watch what they do” is the best way to see what women do. In places where the red pill has taken root, I agree. The less honest women are about it, the more necessary it becomes. Are most Chinese women dating or married to light-skinned men who are over 6 feet tall with lots of money? Probably not, given that most Chinese men don't fit that criteria. If they could though, do you think they wouldn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:31 AM
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By "different" you appear to mean "less dishonest about expressing their want for the exact same thing".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:04 AM
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The most recent news appears to be that the doxxers have become the doxxed, and now there's a game out there that lets you rate the leaked pictures of the women. Funny stuff. As others are saying: The goal was to create a list of undateables and that's exactly what happened, just not in the way they expected.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:57 AM
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the creation of an anonymous platform where unverified accusations can be posted without context, oversight, or consequence. This is how we got the Salem Witch Trials. I'm sure human nature has changed since then, though!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:49 PM
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Teaborn was deleted by owner because it's users kept posting revenge porn, child sex material, and rape videos. That's actually pretty smart, in a twisted way. I guess we know what's going to happen with Tea as well, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:31 PM
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And they'd apparently sacrifice due process and embrace mob justice in order to get it. Human stupidity is often entertaining to witness but this...this is just dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:28 PM
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They are specifically forbidden to DOX the men on the Tea app. Utilizing reverse image searches, providing names, ages and locations for the sake of personally identifying somebody without their consent to share publicly with other women perfectly fits the definition of doxxing. This process also likely runs afoul of various stalking, intimidation, and defamation laws. The male version of the app, "Teaborn" was already scrubbed from the app store, by the way. I wonder how we justify one, but not…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:14 PM
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They should have named it "Meat".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:14 AM
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All I know is that if you swapped the genders and now men had a platform for doxxing women so they could gossip about them and judge them, it'd spark outrage in women the likes of which we haven't seen since Roe vs Wade got overturned.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 10:42 PM
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getting their hearts broken because they couldn't lock down a ONS You mean pink pill women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 09:58 PM
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Do or don't. Just stop framing your inability to secure the ones that you think you deserve as though it's a "men are trash" problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 04:08 PM
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I think a lot of women are just doing the same "you can't fire me, I quit!" routine that we saw a lot of with MGTOW and now 4B.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 02:39 PM
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If it weren't true, the manosphere wouldn't exist. This is fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 04:23 PM
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You'd be surprised. But that comment doesn't really address my question. Which is "are women capable of making decisions that maximize the odds that they'll be single mothers?".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 01:44 AM
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"Because the father died" isn't (or at least I hope it isn't) a consequence of her own unilateral actions and choices, so that doesn't count. Let me word this differently... Do you believe women are capable of making decisions that maximize the odds that they'll be single mothers? Or is single motherhood only ever a thing that "deadbeat men" blindside unwitting women with?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 09:57 PM
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You want to blame the wife for the husbands actions? No, I'm asking you if you're capable of imagining a scenario where a woman is a single mother for reasons other than the father being a deadbeat family abandoner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 05:47 PM
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But does that fact alone not highlight how many men actually abandon their families and children I wonder... Are you able to imagine a scenario where the woman being a single mother was a consequence of her own unilateral actions and choices? Or is it only ever because men are deadbeat family abandoners in your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:11 PM
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So...would I marry a platonic friend? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 03:39 PM
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I'm just engaging with your comment that you believe the woman's crashout was appropriate based on the prior poster's scenario (guy forgot to charge his phone). It sounds like you do indeed believe that in this scenario where the woman has a crashout because she wildly misinterprets the situation that the guy was the one who caused the drama. Which would probably go a long way in explaining why you believe men cause just as much drama as women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 01:52 PM
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That is a very appropriate crashout Because the guy forgot to charge his phone? *Do you believe her crashout based on her own misinterpretations of a benign situation is an example of men causing drama?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 02:48 AM
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Some of them. Other still are women who were just never happy to begin with. All united under the banner of being crabs in a bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 03:13 PM
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Empowering other women to decenter men from their lives If I were a bucket full of crabs, this is exactly what I'd disguise myself as.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 03:45 AM
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It's why we're long past the "good faith" phase of these discussions. Little do they seem to realize that gaslighting has exactly the opposite intended effect when the ideas involved deviate so significantly from plausibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 03:05 AM
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More sluts running around who are adamantly against marriage sounds awesome. How do we spread this message to more women? Particularly the ones over 30?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 02:36 AM
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so why is it birth rates are cratering Because nobody has a sense of duty anymore. Women especially so. That's not really relevant to the topic of holding "gifts" over people's heads being a toxic breeding ground for resentment though. Actually, maybe it is...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 01:58 AM
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This is why I told my girls to never give a man (or woman) children unless they 100% respect, love, and appreciate the gift. Yuck. Treating having kids like a "gift" you're giving to the other person that they have to be grateful for receiving is a recipe for resentment. Imagine if a breadwinner man felt that way about the lifestyle his breadwinning enabled a woman to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 02:28 PM
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TwoX is (was?) a 'default' sub that all reddit accounts are (were?) automatically subscribed to. Which is pretty telling in and of itself given how much of a cesspool of misandry it is, but that's why its subscriber numbers are so high.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:59 PM
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I wonder if there is an evolutionary reason for this. I think a lot of women just see sex as an intrinsically transactional activity that they only tolerate until they feel like the 'ROI' isn't worth it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 04:52 AM
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What relevance does your reply have to mine?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 04:56 PM
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It's because that's the only way to avoid gendered power dynamics. Sounds like the quickest way to stumble face-first into them if you ask me. Women aren't privy to "locker room talk" so it's understandable that they wouldn't know this, but "Chad" ain't any more discreet about sharing his list of conquests with his buddies than "average" guys are. If you want discretion then just do what other women do and take vacations to places where nobody knows you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:15 PM
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The claim is that being a single mother is a negative trait. What's the point of disingenuously removing adjectives and then constructing strawmen out of the result?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 03:14 PM
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Why did you exclude the adjective that comes before the word mom?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 01:14 PM
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more men need to get into relationships to have sex And this translates out to you as "men want relationships more than women"? I think there may be a problem with that logic. Women don’t expect men to do anything You don't actually believe that. Clearly at the very least there's the expectation that men be the producers of 'woo' as you've already suggested. but relationships are more risk and effort for women That's very debatable if the expectation is that men initiate, pursue, 'woo', and so o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 07:40 PM
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I agree that both genders have lost their sense of duty. I'd argue though that one gender collectively lost their sense of duty long before the other did, which ultimately catalyzed the reciprocation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:58 PM
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Men want relationships more than women I suspect the opposite is true, given that even the red pill is more about having sex with women than getting into relationships with them. The party that passively expects others to come and 'woo' them will obviously appear to be less interested than the party that is expected to do the pursuing. The meteoric rise of the 'pink pill' pretty strongly suggests things are a little more complicated than that though. As does your feeling sorry for young women...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:32 PM
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I dunno, when men lament the lack of 'marriageable' women the retort is usually "we don't live in the 1950s anymore". Perhaps the concept of the burden of performance being entirely on men's shoulders when it comes to 'wooing'/pursuing deserves a similar retort.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 02:32 PM
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No, it's even funnier than that. Person 1: "Men suck." Person 2: "Nuh uh. Women suck!" Person 1 again: "What a dumb and uninformed thing to say!"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 01:30 AM
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Because they take what they get in exchange for granted when it doesn't come in the form of a literal paycheck? I can see that. Hence the advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:44 AM
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Are women just supposed to be live-in baby makers, escorts, chefs, cleaners, and nannies - there to work and provide for the man for free - and then, if she wants to leave, she gets nothing for her labour? "Work and provide for the man for free" It's like she's taking completely for granted all of the ways that she's benefiting from him in exchange. Perhaps she should just get out there, grind out a career and create those benefits for herself so that she doesn't have to feel like her labor is "…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:22 PM
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Do you think there are methods of manipulation that are primarily associated with men? Be honest now...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:57 PM
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Women in particular have certain ways that they manipulate though, which are worth recognizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:42 PM
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Why shouldn't we ever focus on the ways women in particular are manipulative?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 01:41 PM
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You haven't demonstrated that men tell women to do this. The overwhelming majority of the responses appear to be men telling you that they wouldn't do this, nor that it's a smart idea (for them or for the woman). You seem to be misinterpreting what they're telling you. "Replace the abusive man with a non-abusive man" is not the same as saying "find some random dude on tinder to prostitute yourself to instead of utilizing the resources available to victims of abuse". Frankly this whole topic is b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 02:19 AM
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I'm trying to figure out what your issue is with men telling women they can stop being abused by ditching abusive men for non-abusive ones. Should they just give an empty "that's horrible!" platitude and leave it at that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 01:09 AM
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Do you not like the 'tinder' part or are you unsatisfied with the general proposed solution to ditch the abusive man for a man who isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 09:49 PM
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If heterosexuality is only about sexual acts, then does a man who has sex with women but hates being around them still count as ‘oriented’ toward women As far as the word heterosexual is concerned? Yes. Being exclusively sexually attracted to the opposite sex is the only necessary criteria to qualify as a heterosexual person. you’re just exposing your inability to think beyond surface definitions By "surface definitions" do you mean ones that have yet to be interpreted proprietarily by you? Yeah…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:38 PM
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Hard to say. All we know for sure is that it would be highly unlikely that a woman would do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:50 PM
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I’m saying your version of ‘straight’ is emotionally hollow. Do you always rely on your emotions to define words...?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:30 PM
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Now you’ve got to try and explain that you weren’t implying she looks like a rooster or has the brain of one and that it was all an analogy. Nope. Now you take a knee as Bill Burr puts it, lest she succeed in her attempt to make the argument about something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:05 AM
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That I couldn't get without marriage? ... Doubling my capital gains tax exemptions would be nice I suppose...?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:24 PM
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Did you think men were going to react to the notion that their sperm quality degrades with age with the same indignant zealotry that women often express when presented with the same notion about their eggs?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:29 PM
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I sincerely hope that blind spot you're dealing with never causes excessive hardship in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 12:44 AM
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When a woman isn't a decent person towards men, she stays tf away from men most of the time. Your take is dangerously charitable to women who aren't decent people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 01:32 AM
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Plenty of thoughtless circle jerking from women as well, if you hadn't noticed...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 12:50 AM
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If "getting called mean" is the threshold to avoiding the solution then the problem must not be that bad to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 04:07 PM
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Really makes you look at the Adam and Eve allegory in a new light, doesn't it? I'm not religious but I absolutely acknowledge the wisdom of ancient men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 04:02 PM
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Men are seeing the same thing in women - a cesspit of entitlement and victim complexes, that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:19 PM
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Expressing their dissatisfaction to women having autonomy and free will is disgusting. You're free to frame it that way. The genders are plainly talking past each other at this point anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:51 PM
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There are men who offer to buy a drink unasked and then expect a woman to go on a date with them "No thanks" would be an easy way to avoid that situation. But then you wouldn't have the free drink, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 01:54 PM
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We're probably long past the point that you can suppress men's dissatisfaction by simply censoring their ability to express it. Cat's already out of the bag, so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 01:47 PM
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Wasn't there a social media fad where women were telling each other to wander up and down the aisles of Home Depot to try and find men to be hit on by? Probably related to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:29 PM
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that might sting a little on the inside. The "men are trash" narrative was borne to combat this very feeling, methinks. It's not that she's such an insufferable person that she can't find a single man to put up with her despite her advantages as a woman, it's that there's no such thing as a good man! It's delusional, yes. But it sufficiently protects her ego - and that's ultimately all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 01:39 PM
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"If not for men's tendency to abandon their offspring." Appreciate the clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 03:39 AM
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And if not for men, you think it would work and be completely fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:51 AM
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Define the very specific thing that you believe would work and be completely fair if not for "men not giving a fuck about their kids".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:21 PM
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all of this would work and would be completely fair if men gave a fuck about their kids Hah. We just had a post about women and accountability. I wish you had posted your rendition of "everything is men's fault" in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 02:59 PM
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Did you see the look of defeat in his face after it happened? She'll have him believing it was his fault before the day is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 02:38 AM
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"Attractive" was the third item in their list.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:59 AM
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He would be equally responsible if women didn't get to unilaterally choose what set of consequences are associated with sex. Given that they do get to choose, the notion that men are equally responsible for the consequences of a woman's unilateral choice only serves as an affirmation that women's relationship with accountability is indeed a tenuous one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:53 PM
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Where were you when Amber Heard was being called Amber Turd Laughing at the appropriately bequeathed name, given what she did to those poor bed sheets. Remember when she tried to blame the toy-sized dog for the human-sized shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:32 PM
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Their body, their choice, their responsibility. The reaction they always give to that third criteria is all you ever need to demonstrate the point about women and accountability. They want to unilaterally control the process, but they wilt at the prospect of being held unilaterally accountable for the outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:34 PM
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No. The question is who can maintain it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:20 PM
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I really beleive in the future women will have to step up from a physiological stand point to be equal to men And they'll start with the depiction of female characters in video games!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:16 PM
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women here who have actively ceased trying to pursue men Women don't actively pursue to begin with. They just come to terms with not being pursued by the men they want. My nitpick of the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 12:56 PM
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Is it also a form of 'indirect cuckoldry' when women watch it? Or do you frame women watching porn less shamefully?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 11:37 PM
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Maybe that's exactly what he did.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:16 PM
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What if your potentially deeply sick partner has made it clear to you that their potential sickness will be their newest and most socially foolproof excuse to continue treating you poorly and framing you as the bad guy while doing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:12 PM
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It's an echo chamber where the prospect of having good faith debates goes to die. But it's entertaining, and that's ultimately the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:11 PM
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It's a rhetorical device to explain how most of women's advantages as it pertains to dating start to wane as they grow older.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:24 PM
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So long as the men are getting their money's worth, then what's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:10 AM
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And now people will accuse me of being a bitter old hag Nah. We'll just accuse you of making a lot of pessimistic assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:53 AM
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If you have realistic expectations then you've no need to worry. If you want the guy that all the other ladies want though, then not having your youth will put you at a potentially insurmountable disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:36 AM
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"being shit", as you put it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:50 AM
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Yeah the manosphere isn’t doing anything It's absolutely helping to bridge the gap that you just acknowledged exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:55 PM
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Modern medicine is a product of civilization. Civilization is a product of humans resisting/being made to resist their natures. Playing Jenga with the scaffolding of civilization by appealing to "what's natural" is probably a really bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:36 PM
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Nobody said they can't be. There's a big difference between men and women in the threshold to being called on it though. Granted 'the manosphere' and the discussions therein have thankfully been helping to level that playing field lately.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 04:54 PM
2

So did medicine extend our lifespans or was "lived until 30s" a myth?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 04:52 PM
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The difference is nobody is going to argue with you that the man in your example was being a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 04:07 PM
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Seems like the kind of thing that would be a source of shame that they'd want to keep secret if they did, so I have no idea. Hope not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 04:57 AM
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A man who can keep up "I'm letting you be in a supporting role for my story." About me: Unapologetically myself. This is usually just a clever way to say "I'm an unconscientious person." Love to travel! Been to 35 countries and counting. Depends who pays for it. If she does then that doesn't necessarily say anything bad. If she doesn't though, then it's probably safe to assume she's dabbling in an "unofficial" form of prostitution. The rest are all just generic platitudes that she may or may not…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:52 PM
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The attention of a stage 5 clinger and all the fun that comes with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:29 AM
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Because "succumbing to her baser instincts" doesn't sound as flattering.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 02:52 AM
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Edgy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:38 PM
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If we're going by women's example then I guess we'd just have to nag her into compliance...?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:26 PM
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"Women tell guys EXACTLY what they want with subtle hints." That's...kind of a stupid sentence. Because you're either telling guys EXACTLY what you want, or you're giving subtle hints. Maybe when men pretend not to notice said subtle hints, they're doing it because they're sick of tolerating a cowardly form of communication?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:19 PM
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I'd love to hear this as well, given the prevalence of women in these very same pill spaces who demand men competent in their traditional roles, but who themselves are anything but.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 06:16 PM
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This is the dynamic that seems to produce optimal "happiness" between both the man and the woman - provided the man doesn't abuse his position of power. It's actually quite telling that the detractors of the above only ever assume that he will.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:04 PM
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I came to debate See, that's the thing. No you didn't. Your post has nothing to debate. It's just a rant. Looks like the mods finally did their job.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 01:26 AM
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Egregiously so. Ultimately it's probably better in the long run if they just keep allowing femcel content. More entertainment for PPD, more recruiting power for TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 12:36 AM
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That very mentality would be the epitome of "incel content" if you swapped "men" with "women".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 12:21 AM
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I like how none of the red pill men will respond in good faith Is this to say that you think the OP's post was made in good faith?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:37 PM
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Also incel content, but of the femcel variety so it's OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:27 PM
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After months of extensive reasrch And this rant post is all you could come up with? What a self-burn...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:21 PM
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The second she caught feelings. At least in her mind anyway...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:50 AM
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It can be lazy, but you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater if you're telling people they shouldn't make gendered generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 05:57 PM
1

Have you ever seen the movie "There's Something About Mary"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 01:55 AM
1

Dude wanted an easy, low maintenance relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:43 PM
1

What I hate the most is that people who don't know anything about Red Pill are so gullibly discrediting the whole Red Pill mentality. Does the function of a ratchet wrench become discredited because people say the brand sucks?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 02:55 PM
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at a time so far removed from any potential pregnancy that no one needs to get worked up about it I'm impressed by your confidence that a woman wouldn't still get worked up about it even after the conversation was had at a time so far removed from any potential pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:26 PM
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So was aborting children. Then we started talking about the sanctity of "bodily autonomy" and suddenly it was OK. I see no reason why the same process couldn't apply to cheating. These are the knock on effects of a culture embracing moral relativism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:51 PM
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it’s about your inner misogyny I encourage you at every turn to attempt to shut down conversations with these superficial accusations of misogyny. Surely it will help your cause!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:03 PM
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The biological response isn't exactly a secret. Women aren't stupid either. They do like to pretend they are though, which is where all of the "I dress like this for myself!" half-truths come from.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 11:32 PM
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When the narcissist's prayer meets the women are wonderful effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:27 PM
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Because women are seeking honesty Only when it's what you want to hear, though. And woe be the man who can't tell the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:16 PM
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It's the Patrice O'Neal skit about the perfect relationship being when the woman is in love, and the man is in like. Essentially so long as she feels like he's better than her, she'll be "low maintenance" for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:43 PM
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The problem seems to simply be that she knows he watches OF. She did not clarify whether or not she'd be fine with it provided he stopped while in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 12:44 AM
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Seems strange to not want to date the guy who wants to get to know the object of his sexual desires as a person, given all of the complaints women have about being "objectified".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 06:50 PM
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Read about the life of William Moulton Marston, creator of Wonder Woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 02:45 AM
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Knowing that an icon of feminism (and the weapon she used) was based on a poly amorous man's femdom fantasies is a funny little easter egg.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 01:22 AM
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There’s a reason there’s a meme with women and accountability Ask women what that reason is and in an inadvertently spectacular confirmation of your premise, they'll tell you "misogyny".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:09 PM
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I am accountable for myself and my actions. Would you still say that if you got knocked up by and decided to have the baby of a man who did not consent to be a father? If not, then there's your first example.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 09:50 PM
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I think you meant to type "EQ". A high EQ doesn't make indirect communication any less intrinsically inefficient or less vulnerable to major misunderstandings though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 02:37 AM
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No women are good at communicating They're good at indirect communication. An extremely inefficient form of communication vulnerable to major misunderstandings, but which comes with a plausible deniability safety net. As far as actually communicating information clearly and concisely though? They tend to be terrible communicators.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 02:09 AM
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White knight/"sneaky male" behavior in any of the variety of ways it expresses itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:47 PM
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Therapy was truly designed to just validate women. Well, that and also to feed the pharmaceutical industry. They've managed to convince 1 in 4 women that they need SSRIs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 03:15 PM
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Too much trouble to have to regulate the emotions of another adult who calls themselves my equal. Essentially it's too tiresome maintaining the balancing act of handling a woman with kids gloves without her realizing you're handling her with kids gloves. Amused mastery works, but it's just such a tedious treadmill...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:54 PM
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What kind of “privilege” is it if women’s basic human rights dependence on the mercy of men? A definitionally accurate one?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 01:46 AM
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I think a lot of the women that redpill men see as representing the "modern woman" have actual mental disorders or at least trauma/unhealthy attachment styles. These are like the borderline type girls. 1 in 4 'modern' women are on antidepressants.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:02 PM
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Your reply is peak PPD. "That poor dog..." "JUST ADMIT YOU HATE WOMEN!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 03:13 PM
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You're disagreeing that memorizing information is more suited to girls, or that schools expect students to memorize information? Either way, agree to disagree I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 01:14 AM
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You're not even disagreeing with me. Why do you think they had them memorize the textbooks?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 11:38 PM
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Schools encourage students to understand. They encourage students to read the textbooks, from which the answers to the tests are pulled - often word for word without a need to actually understand anything other than "I remember this question from the book". I bet your father had recess when he went to school.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 11:04 PM
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Because sitting quietly, memorizing and then regurgitating information is a form of learning more suitable to girls than boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:43 PM
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That's when they switch to the "I can't disagree with what you're saying, but I don't like the way you're saying it so now the topic is about your tone." mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:58 PM
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I don't see any point in threatening women with "incel revolutions". Still requires their cooperation at the end of the day, right? I'd prefer we just give men the same right to choose to be fathers that women have to be mothers. This alone would profoundly influence women's behavior in a way that would likely decimate the number of single mothers going forward. No threats or cooperation required.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:08 PM
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"Have declined" From 28% to 25% over the course of the last 20 years, according to the linked info. Compared to 9% in 1960. "Have gradually leveled off from getting any worse" would be a more honest way to describe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 03:42 PM
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Why do you think this attitude is growing? Because we've reached an impasse. We can't, for example, solve the single motherhood problem without women's cooperation; And women by way of trying to equivocate men "having sex" with "being deadbeat fathers" in this era of women's autonomy where they have a lot of casual sex and also unilaterally decide if babies result from the sex have been sending some pretty strong signals that they don't intend to cooperate. So naturally some men are going to sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 02:01 PM
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It's the princess syndrome associated with blowing too much smoke up women's asses that ruined modern dating. "Disney movies" are just one example of said forced smoke induction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:13 PM
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Google "medical divorce". And while you're at it, tell the researchers of those studies to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 08:59 PM
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Desirable for a certain specific thing, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 06:31 PM
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The notion that community bicycles are created by communities of willful men was never in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:34 PM
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When they make the conscious decision to be mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:22 PM
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consented to be fathers
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 06:41 AM
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The point I think you're missing is that "community sausages" can't be made without the help of a community of willful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:03 AM
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Seems pretty self-evident that it's not actually gross if 'everyone' is sleeping with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:33 PM
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Promiscuous women tend to be more outgoing, friendly, and objectively “hotter” than the opposite of promiscuous women. Not in my experience. Ease of sexual access is a strategy below-average women will frequently use to try and offset the fact. It's why "dumpster diving" is a phrase that everyone here is likely familiar with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 05:00 PM
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however what most people are wondering is ‘why would a low n count woman want a high n count man?’ Because the universal fantasy is "he could have anyone but he chose me."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 04:47 PM
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Just an idle question but... Of these absent fathers, what percentage of them do you suspect actually consented to be fathers? Easy question right? "All of them, because they had sex." But what if we applied the standards of the word "consent" identically to men as we do to women? What do you think the percentage would be then? *This'll be a fun topic when society is ready to start discussing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:45 AM
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Crabs in a bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:03 AM
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I could have told you at the time that 4B was just another iteration of #MeToo. A very public display of the depth of some women's neuroticism. Yes yes, I know "they were about this and that". I'm just saying in practice, that's what they both boiled down to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:19 PM
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More like...I dunno, the head of the "mean girls" group?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:27 AM
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A Karen with a following, more or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:18 AM
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"Does this dress make me look fat?" is not actually a question. It's a statement that she's feeling insecure about her looks and is signaling for reassurance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 02:12 AM
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That sounds icky though. Lets just call it "having a higher emotional quotient" instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:57 AM
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It’s about how serious the man is. You're free to think that, but it comes off to men like it would to you when they try to correlate how quickly she sleeps with him with "how serious she is". That is to say, sneaky and conniving.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 01:10 AM
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"The hundred different men are the lowest common denominator". Yeah, that's about the level of self-awareness I was expecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 05:11 PM
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Lets review: I said: I think they're saying that men are saying men need women and kids to have purpose. Obviously that's not the case Then you said: Everyone needs a partner and children, since pairing up and reproducing is the ultimate goal of any living creature. So, obviously that IS the case and you are dead wrong. What, if not the notion that men don't need women and children (reproduction) to have purpose, was I dead wrong about then? Try to explain it without the juvenile attitude from y…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:53 PM
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100 out of 100 of those guys are just trying to get some tail. And she still hasn't figured out the lowest common denominator? Crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:49 AM
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To each their own, but to not to assign purpose to one's life beyond nature's ultimate mandate for living creatures seems kind of depressing...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:16 PM
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I think they're saying that men are saying men need women and kids to have purpose. Obviously that's not the case, and it's only an idea that inhabits fringe online spaces like this, but...some people spend a lot of time here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 04:27 AM
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With that being said most men don't understand that beyond the smoke in mirrors is another human Guess who's putting up all the smoke and mirrors though...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 04:01 PM
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All we know is: Today after she got denied once again, she told me that she hung up the phone, downloaded Tinder and got a date with someone who is taking her out to dinner tonight. Guess we'll never know for sure. But like I said, I know where I'd put my money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:42 AM
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If she doesn’t tell him and they aren’t exclusive and she was looking for something to do that night… so what? Sure, if we assume all of those things are the case... It could totally be that after 5 dates and expressing persistence in wanting to schedule a 6th that she just suddenly happened to lose all interest in the guy and download a hookup app to quickly get some dates with other men lined up. On the other hand, it's the perfect plausibly deniable excuse for a woman attempting to stoke jeal…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 01:18 AM
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Nobody actually knows what was said, but the odds of a woman going from "lets plan our 6th date!" to downloading Tinder and declaring they are no longer interested in the same day being anything other than what you mentioned earlier (jealousy baiting) are pretty remote if you ask me...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 10:15 PM
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The undercurrent of this whole topic is basically a man that a woman was into didn't go far enough out of his way to put her whims ahead of his own prior obligations and she's passive-aggressively expressing her dissatisfaction about it by threatening to see other men. He passed her shit test, essentially. Future prediction? Her alleged loss of interest in the guy will be short-lived.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:01 PM
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We know. In fact, you just inadvertently hit on one of the reasons why Western women have become so unappealing as long-term investments.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 12:07 AM
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Trump Derangement Syndrome is the tool currently being used to employ useful idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:18 PM
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Never been to wallstreetbets, have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 09:36 AM
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I mean Occam's razor... Has no place in a discussion where women might be implicated it would seem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:39 PM
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They're painting the narrative that all of the lesbian DV statistics are actually remnants of a time when they were being abused by men they were dating. Essentially that lesbianism is a reaction to men beating women, and that lesbian couples actually don't experience the most DV of any pairing. It's a silly premise, but it serves its purpose to deflect blame away from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:32 PM
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It's just the second-order of effects associated with women being more emotionally volatile on average than men. It's really not complicated, it's just a very touchy subject for a lot of them - given the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:23 PM
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just check the scripture and you’ll see how anti red pilled it is Proverbs 21:19.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:03 PM
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Yes. Google "medical divorce" or "medicaid divorce" for a more in-depth look. If your parents have a decent amount of assets, they should definitely look into this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:27 PM
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Every time I see this comment about "men divorcing their sick wives" I have to be the community notes by adding the following: A husband medically divorcing his wife to take advantage of medicaid loopholes and to preserve the family's wealth in the face of what would otherwise be financially catastrophic medical expenses is not differentiated from a husband just leaving his wife high and dry because she got sick in those statistics. Ergo, assuming all or even most of the men are doing the latter…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:30 PM
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I'm just pointing out how it's a stupid strategy to say this kind of stuff to people who are on your side. And I'm pointing out that such readily employed sarcasm is the behavior of someone looking for a reason to excuse themselves from caring, especially when accompanied by phrases like: yall are really good at shooting yourself in the foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:59 PM
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We seem to have strayed quite a bit away from "I promise you there's not" though...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 05:05 PM
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She said almost all of the women were pretty and had their act together, but that the guys were lacking. Now get the opinion of the one or two guys getting all of the interest from the women on the quality of said women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 04:53 PM
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There are elements that are biased Some of the judges - the arbiters of the outcome - being one such biased element as you've suggested?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 04:22 PM
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I promise you there's not. In my experience it depends on the judge So which is it then?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:28 PM
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Oh it doesn’t matter if I listen? So I guess I’ll just stop caring about men’s issues then. Look at how readily you found a reason to drop the pretenses of caring about men's issues. Such readily displayed tenuousness in supporting men's issues betrays a woman's true feelings about doing so, and your reaction is a fairly typical one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:23 PM
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You disagree with the status quo of allowing women's actions to continue not matching their words, not with the fact that their actions are often mismatched with their words. Also, why do you bring up Red Pill? Because it offers a solution to the above along the path of least resistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:45 PM
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I assume you disagree with the status quo, not with the premise. Remember though that the red pill isn't about "fixing society". It's about optimizing sexual success with women. If that's the goal, then see above.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:35 PM
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Should, yes. But to put that expectation on women will just lead to a lot of frustration. Better to simply acknowledge that their words have a tendency to be unreliable with some predictability and do what the other guy said. See: Amused Mastery
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:25 PM
2

Nothing some controlled burns can't take care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:27 PM
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Dating experience is the fuel, the manosphere is the spark.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:23 PM
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the connotation is that women can be gold diggers Yes, because they can be gold diggers. making it seem as though it’s a tendency that women have It's a tendency that enough women have that such a phrase would be coined to describe said tendency. The point though is that "women can be etc. etc." will receive approximately the same number of accusations of misogyny as "women are etc. etc.!"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:06 AM
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I don't know how you expect me to engage with this. No, u.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:36 AM
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What would they even teach in this class? "Twirl your hair, say 'hi' and let him take it from there."?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:47 PM
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"Women can be gold digging whores who are incapable of love" will get exactly the same treatment as the absolutist version.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:26 PM
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Women are often the first ones to point out shitty behavior in other women Only when it serves their interests though. Otherwise it's more likely to be this meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 09:40 PM
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Why would you even waste your time dating women who are sexually incompatible with you? The idea is that the only compatibility a high N woman might have is sexual compatibility, which is sufficient enough to pursue her in the interims between actually dating seriously. Which is a pretty typical approach, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:19 PM
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Prisoner's Dilemma.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:37 AM
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were there any decisions he made here that you disagree with? Putting himself in a position to be blackmailed by a 22 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:35 PM
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I wish this was more readily acknowledged by more women. The lengths they go to defend their entire gender from essentially admitting that they're humans who do human things is exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:40 PM
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If I were to tell you the amount of times I have masterbated within a year it's probably around 200+ times. So about .5 times per day? Have you heard of "nofap"? It's a support group that some men created to fight the urge to be consumed by the need to masturbate 10+ times a day. Them's rookie numbers is what I'm trying to say. *Bah, someone beat me to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 11:35 PM
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I honestly really really don't care ...Alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 10:52 PM
3

You think 20% at best, 50% at worst is a rarity? K
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 09:54 PM
0

Wonder if it's one of the repeat offenders on their umpteenth alt account.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:01 PM
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Where is all these single mothers in their thirties? The way people talk about them it's like they're at every corner. 1 in 5 mothers are single mothers. Depending on the ethnicity, that number approaches 1 in 2 mothers. They're not a rarity by any means.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:37 PM
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I absolutely agree many women see themselves as powerless but women are absolutely socialized to direct anger and frustration inward and blame themselves. I mean, maybe that's step 2 in the 3 step process, but step 3, their 'final form' so to speak, is to direct accountability away from themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:18 PM
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I love how they proved your point with their reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:23 PM
10

Seriously. Maybe girls rationalizing their horrible behavior will be the lead up to the sequel.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:47 PM
4

there are some insane people out there, but significant?? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:28 AM
7

Who has a problem with men accepting when women say no? The significant subset of women who want men to 'chase' them as a measure of his interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 04:47 PM
6

And also why the phrase "rationalization hamster" was coined in the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:13 PM
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You’re right. But refusing to accept the first “no” is when things become problematic. There's a significant subset of women out there who would see it as problematic if men always accepted the first "no". So if it's problematic if we do and problematic if we don't, then we're just going to focus on which one gets us laid more. And it ought to be self-evident which method will inevitably produce more success in that department.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:02 PM
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"Respect and emotional support" does not breech the minimum threshold of Briffault's law.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 01:14 PM
1

you people sigh It seems that "half way there" is about as far as most people ever get.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:09 PM
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Makeup is for women to feel good about themselves You're almost there...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:08 PM
1

Do you think calls for political violence and insinuations about assassination are the appropriate reaction? Like I said, you're half way there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 12:45 PM
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Right. Again though, if you think this applies to one side disproportionately compared to the other, then see above.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:55 AM
2

One of the most important things I've learned over the last decade is that pointing out hypocrisy in conservative people is a waste of fucking time. They know. They don't care. Sounds like you're half way to enlightenment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:11 AM
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Have you considered the differences in culture between Uganda and the West, and how those differences might utterly undermine the point you're trying to make? I mean, I get it. Saying one's 'ugliness' is what holds them back is primarily a coping mechanism, but lets not pretend if you plopped this guy in the West his story would be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 10:19 PM
1

The younger woman will push for marriage eventually no matter what she says in the beginning. That you think this is (or even tends to be) different for older women is interesting. IME the older they get, the faster they start asking the "so where is this going?" questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 05:17 PM
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If someone managed to create a "tool" that convincingly does "background checks" on men for the sake of women "vetting" them for dates, then regardless of its efficacy, it sounds like an insanely lucrative investment opportunity. Women are going to make that guy rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:33 PM
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That's what we're doing. I'm just saying, taking women at their word is one of the many ways men fail shit tests.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:59 PM
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You are told that women are happier childless and single, so give them what they want. That'd be in flagrant disregard to the red pill's concept of "shit tests" though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:03 PM
1

Sugar babies are just expensive prostitutes Prostitutes on retainer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:58 PM
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But without prudence and wisdom many of their changes end up being wishes from a monkey's paw.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 11:11 PM
1

Are the intractable harpies trying to take away waifus from the un-dateable men now? This'll be good. Let the war between the Naruto runners and the puritanical Karens begin!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:48 PM
1

Have you ever been in a situation where you knew that telling the person the truth would only make things worse? Well, so have all of the people telling 35 year old women they still have plenty of time to have kids...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 10:14 PM
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Men: I'd personally rather not date a sex worker... Interpreted as: they believe a female sex worker’s life should be confined to sex work. This is why it becomes difficult to take such interpretations seriously. Yes, there are implications that come with men wanting to deliberately avoid sex workers. No, that isn't the same as believing sex workers shouldn't be allowed to have relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 10:12 AM
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Yes. I've seen women's expectations for whatever you'd call the gender swapped version of a "bangmaid" as portrayed in those novels ruin their chances at having good relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 12:08 PM
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What is she supposed to do? Cut her lips off? I can't imagine that would be good for her OF work. The task I've asked is simple: Explain how you can acknowledge that an outfit can be made too sexy to be appropriate for the office, that the shirt she was wearing was one such example, but also that she "isn't even wearing what could be considered an office siren outfit"? Is "isn't even" just meant to be interpreted as "kinda a little bit"? Because while that would certainly explain the contradicti…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 06:08 PM
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I never claimed the outfit was fine for the office. You said it would have been fine, if not for the shirt, because the shirt "made it sexier". (Personal note: the camel toe did some heavy lifting in that department as well.) But even though it's not fine, because it made it sexier, it's still not an "office siren" outfit? Can you explain this 'math'?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 05:19 PM
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You said: The woman in the shorts isn't even wearing what could be considered an office siren outfit. Followed by: the shirt would have been fine if it was longer and covered her belly See the contradiction? In essence you just said "it's fine, if not for the fact that it isn't".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 04:57 PM
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The woman in the shorts isn't even wearing what could be considered an office siren outfit. the shirt would have been fine if it was longer and covered her belly So...which is it then?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:50 PM
4

"What games?! Women don't play any games!" PPD women probably
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 12:44 PM
1

I'm citing any given woman that immediately comes to mind in any given man's personal life when he thinks of those shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 09:53 PM
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Eh, they're probably not lying. They just have incredibly low thresholds for what they consider being "miserable". Think "Bridezilla" or "My Sweet 16".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:07 PM
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Giving men autonomy over their reproductive systems would be a reproductive right. They don't have that though. They can take preventative measures but if the preventative measures fail (including any and all of the ones you say we should advocate for), so does their right to autonomy. That's not how it works for women though, is it? *And the "that's because men don't get pregnant!" argument I hear so often in response (see the other replies), while clearly being a useful diversionary tactic, do…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:04 PM
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I'd rather we just cut to the chase and give men equal reproductive rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 05:54 PM
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That means you lied about NSA to get sex It really doesn't. In fact, outside of the internet, people generally don't differentiate between "sex" and "NSA sex".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 04:22 PM
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The sex was mutual, even if the NSA part wasn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 03:12 PM
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The thing is... being that guy opens avenues to what would ultimately be NSA sex with women who want more than NSA sex. Pragmatically speaking, he has no reason to treat the women who fall outside of bullet point 4 as 'off-limits', right? *addressing your edits That’s why my OP chose to lean into men have to catch women when she’s in a loosey uninhibited carnal head space. Has a lot more to do with the man than the place, wouldn't you say? Making the aforementioned question all the more pertinen…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:42 PM
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So become attractive enough that you can pull off number 4, maybe with the help of a little bit of plausible deniability and vagueness of intent? Yeah, that's more or less the gist of TRP. Note, I did not say "red pill men".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 01:13 PM
2

You keep going back to the "trigger pull". Why is that when I've already granted it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:13 PM
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The woman doesn't decide that part It would be an egregious violation of her bodily autonomy if she didn't decide that part. because the woman doesn't decide where it's pointed when the trigger is pulled She decides what set of consequences are associated with the gun being fired, which for all intents and purposes is the same as deciding where it's pointed. If he never pulls the trigger, never pulls it in her vicinity or at her, etc, she never has access to the bullet. I mean, sure. "Keep out o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:05 PM
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I've already granted that the guy "pulls the trigger". We're talking about the trajectory of the bullet - whether it flies harmlessly into a berm, or into a crowd of people. The woman decides that part.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 03:50 PM
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The guy is the one shooting the gun. The woman unilaterally controls what set of consequences result from the gun being shot though, which your analogies seem to not take into consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 03:44 PM
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"At any cost" is your own assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 03:07 PM
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Isn’t the whole point of red pill supposed to be about male independence and rationality? About not being controlled by your emotions? No, it's a toolbox of sexual strategies for men who'd rather not do without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 11:28 AM
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Everybody knows women generally don't "approach" men. You don't have to try and poison the well to obfuscate such an uncontroversial truth. Yes, ultimately men have to accept the reality - which is why we shouldn't gaslight them about what reality is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 03:24 PM
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I think it's just that there's a lot of angst being indiscriminately thrown around by liberal women lately, and that liberal men happen to be in closest proximity to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:08 PM
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This is what I was responding to: Most people online hate single moms for some reason don't ask me why.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:53 PM
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"The single mother" has become more or less a stereotype. A meme. It's a representation of the woman who made a series of poor decisions and who spends a lot of time minimizing her culpability in the results while maximally assigning blame to the man for his. Of course that doesn't describe all single moms, but...it does describe a lot of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 02:39 PM
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If we want to be maximally shameless about it? Soft harems with nubile women until it becomes too much effort to maintain a roster, then swapping over to monogamy with your favorite harem girl. Which is pretty much already the standard practice for men who can maintain soft harems.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:38 PM
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"Men" aren't the selectors, no. The men women want are the selectors. See above.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 07:06 PM
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"Casual sex" is a post-hoc rationalization for the overwhelming majority of women is what I'm trying to convey.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:07 PM
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pursuing women who want casual sex Sounds like a wild goose chase. Better to just be a man that women are attracted to, at which point the casual sex becomes a foregone conclusion if he wills it - regardless of how the women feel about casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 02:23 PM
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Technically you'd call the "incels are just as dangerous as the hot bad boys!" take an example of the average woman's subterfuge. The logic behind it is perfectly sound. She doesn't want to date a man that isn't very attractive - but she also doesn't want to be seen as shallow for feeling that way. So how do they accomplish that? Cue the subterfuge.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 02:37 PM
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My point though is that she isn't making anything up, she's just repeating back what's been said. "What's been said" is just a superficial sound bite. If that's all they're picking up from the extensive discussions about this stuff then it's only fair to assume they're deliberately missing/strawmanning the point. Like a black pill dude reading the red pill and concluding that all it told him was to "take showers and wear deodorant", the pink pill woman will do exactly the same vis a vis "stop go…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 05:00 PM
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It's concerning how many people there are in here demonstrating their lack of understanding of exactly that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:46 PM
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The prevalence of this happening is nowhere near the prevalence of met who commit evil themselves. Tell that to all the Emmett Tills of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 04:50 PM
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Now think about how evil it would be to know that's how men would react to her lying about being raped and she goes and does it anyway. Harnessing men's will to punish evil in order to commit evil is...pretty fucking evil, right? So congrats, that's ...what the female sex has to offer?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 04:42 PM
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"Between 2-10% of accusations are false" That statistic does not include any of the cases where the women couldn't be definitively proven to be lying. Let the implications of that sentence sink in for a moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 04:32 PM
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Humans already have low sexual dimorphism ??? Are you comparing them to angler fish or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 04:19 PM
2

I'm not sure your child's name is the best battleground for "smashing the patriarchy's gender norms" or whatever. Seems misguided and cruel. Like the parents whose political motivations inspire them to groom their children to be transgender.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 04:13 PM
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Sometimes nature glitches and you get peacocks. I don't think women encouraging toxic masculinity is actually a glitch though. It's perfectly natural monkey behavior. Granted it frays the fabric of civilization, which itself is anything but natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 01:02 PM
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I'm putting a ver easy example that proves that sex comes second over... dying Your hypothetical scenario where a man somehow survives a week without water and then chooses it over sex is supposed to prove that men and males in general don't famously risk life and limb for pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 12:36 AM
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Is the answer to your hypothetical scenario supposed to serve as a counterpoint to all of the ways men and males in general risk life and limb for pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 11:27 PM
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I believe survival instinct is way stronger than sex drive Tell that to every guy who ever did something stupid and dangerous to impress a girl. Or to any two males fighting to the death for rights to breed with the females, for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 11:06 PM
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It is sad. I wonder why so many men are starting to feel like romance and relationships are such a job that if not for having a sex drive they'd not bother? The go-to seems to boil down to some variation of "men are lazy" but is that really the whole story? I think there may still be some elephants in the room...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 10:03 PM
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It's fine to check that you haven't been cheated on. Only so long as you don't get caught doing it though, right? Like with the paternity test?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:15 PM
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I was more referring to the increasing lack of empathy on display by men for women vis a vis "the manosphere". Which yes, leads to uncharitable, overly simplified generalizations about the opposite sex. I'm saying this was happening for decades in the opposite direction before the manosphere started doing it, and that it ought not surprise anyone why it adopted those same behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 12:54 PM
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but these days are doing it in a very bad way without enough empathy for women. Which to be fair didn't happen in a vacuum. It's the result of matched energies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 11:54 AM
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I got flagged for "black pill content" when I mentioned the Pareto principle the other day. Asked for clarification. Never got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 11:14 AM
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Some women are just...too passive. They wait for a man to initiate every single little thing and they just end up waiting forever. Often while hiding behind comfortable "if he wanted me he'd have done something about it" half-truths.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 04:36 AM
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The idea of a man being vulnerable can be attractive to a woman, but only when it's expressed in such a way that's tailored to make her feel good about herself. And that's the asterisk that comes after "be vulnerable" that men need to be keenly aware of.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 02:08 PM
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Better than nothing, right? Generally it's only better than nothing when women can hold out hope that they have a shot at his commitment. This is why so many of them report being "pumped and dumped by a man that led them on".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 05:13 PM
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She's got dead eyes. That's the only observation I have about her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 06:07 PM
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Understandably so, but if they don't have an option to do it legally the way that women do, then your point is moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 05:18 PM
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But I feel like biologically men have wayyy more control over pregnany than women. But who controls what pregnancy leads to?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 04:47 PM
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If a man impregnates a woman, the woman is not obligated to accept the consequences of motherhood. She can just walk away. If a woman gets impregnated by a man, the man is obligated to accept the consequences of fatherhood. He can't just walk away. See the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 04:35 PM
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Men can't drag women into anything they can't just choose to walk away from. The opposite is not true, even though it should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 03:16 PM
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When do women become accountable for the outcomes of their own choices though, such that they're not dragging other people into the consequences of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 03:04 PM
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Sperm + a woman's rational choice = no baby as well though, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 02:44 PM
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You know damn well the difference between fear of being slapped and screamed at and the fear of being hospitalized or murdered is different. That you'd equivocate "being slapped and screamed at" with "murdered" is dishonest. It'd be less dishonest if you compared, say, "being driven to suicide" with "murdered".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 07:46 PM
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Yes, the risk of a husband being abused is a good bit higher than the risk of a wife being abused. Strange then that women would hold the issue of domestic abuse over men's heads like it's not something they do in equal or greater measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 07:41 PM
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Women obviously. Just don't express the odds as a decimal or else you're going to have to count a lot of zeros before you start seeing other numbers. Unlike the other thing we were talking about before you made me address this whataboutism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 06:52 PM
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Compared to domestic abuse? Exceedingly rare. ~5 in every 100,000 people are murdered in the U.S. And that's all forms of murder. If you want to be specific about domestic murder then that already tiny number becomes a fraction of a fraction. Compared to approximately ~24% of all relationships having some form of domestic abuse, half of which are non-reciprocal, and of that non-reciprocal half, 70% is perpetrated by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:43 PM
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The risk of being an abused husband is likely greater than that of being an abused wife, given that women account for more than 70% of all instances of non-reciprocal domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:29 PM
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Oh, that user (in the link) finally got suspended eh? Took them long enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:20 PM
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Hey, so long as you're alright with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 06:22 PM
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The men who have high standards don't need to raise theirs. It's the legions of men who don't have any standards at all - the enablers - that need to raise their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 06:01 PM
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They're saying men ought to raise their standards so that women start acting better in the dating market. To interpret that as "punishing women" is...indicative of the problem they're trying to address.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 01:44 PM
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I think the first sentence I typed in this comment chain has been made further relevant with all of those bullet points.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 07:41 PM
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I'm not trying to appeal to women. And yet you seem to be balls deep in the "men need to do better" narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 07:03 PM
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I'm not trying to appeal to nurotic women. Maybe you're not trying, but they're the only ones you're going to be appealing to with your ideas about "men's (bad) reputation".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 06:55 PM
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just indulging in impulsively jerk behavior, while not being called out for it. It's almost like when they watch another group get away with that behavior for so long they start to think "hey, maybe I can too". In any case, if you think wagging your finger at other men for their bad behavior is going to make neurotic women any less neurotic in their interpretations of men's "reputation", you're going to be very disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 05:16 PM
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Maybe FDS women just don't have any sense of humor? In any case, none of the stuff they say about men is meant to be a joke, unlike the "boomer jokes".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 08:36 PM
2

Am I the only one who remembers all of the magazines and tabloids cluttering every single check out aisle of every single store advertising "10 ways to please your man"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 02:50 PM
2

Maybe you've already answered this but I have to ask... Why did you move to the city of the man you called "the love of your life" with whom you had discussed (and seemed to have been anticipating) having a relationship, nay, a life with upon doing so, and why did it happen after your second, much less intense reaction to his "lets stop talking" bit? That part is confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 07:03 AM
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As the singular event? From the man you called "the love of your life"? Well, that's another red pill topic... Anyway, hopefully he learned from his mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:44 AM
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Technically he was just being too honest in that particular thing, rather than manipulative. One thing is certain though: His saying it to you definitely contributed to your losing interest - and any of us could have told him that. He broke the cardinal red pill rule: Don't be unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:18 AM
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Red pill 'strategies' to supposedly build attraction such as 'dread game' don't actually help to build relationships Not when they're ham-fistedly applied by a seemingly insecure dude who doesn't know the first rule about fight club anyway. Did he seriously tell you that he can't cry in front of you because you'll lose interest? Hah.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:43 PM
2

Dont be mad when women want 6 foot men with 6 figure incomes then. Likewise, don't be mad when you have to share with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:39 PM
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I'm not a femcel Well, you're probably going to see at least a few of them in here agreeing with you emphatically. Make of that what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:21 PM
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FDS is the black pill. I guess they prefer the color pink, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:32 PM
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It’s a space for women to talk all things dating and get reassurance or advice. And also apparently a pipeline to 4B, which is just a fun little bit of irony I thought I'd point out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:17 PM
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Sooo a dating strategy Sometimes, interspersed between all of the ranting and raving about men, but only if you'd call "keep waiting" a dating strategy. Which I certainly would not - given the conversion ratios that seem to exist between FDS women and 4B women. If most "red pill" men were ending up as MGTOW, I'd question the effectiveness of the red pill as a dating strategy as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:21 PM
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that’s the basis of it The basis of it is complaining about men. Sometimes there's advice, but the advice is usually just "hold out for prince charming". But prince charming never comes. Hence the pipeline to 4B. Which is really just an extension of waiting for prince charming when you think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:09 PM
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it’s just a group of women trying to help one another out in terms of dating. I just see one big bucket full of crabs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 05:00 PM
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Nope I literally never said that. Of course you didn't literally say that. Here's what you literally said: A disproportionate focus on false accusations over real cases of assault creates a misleading narrative. The focus on false accusations should not overshadow the far more frequent reality: that sexual violence is underreported and survivors often struggle to be believed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 02:47 AM
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This is why the flair rules here are stupid, and will only lead to more of what the OP is presumably doing - LARPing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 06:58 PM
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I'm not saying false accusations don't exist. You're just saying we should look the other way because to acknowledge that women are capable of lying and exploring the frequency by which they do might make real victims harder to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 05:07 PM
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Seems like the 'peak' they're referring to is in "marriageability" that they'd be confused you, a married woman, would care.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 07:59 PM
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Smoke screens aren't meant to help make sense of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:47 PM
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women keep saying they don’t mind being single if they can’t find a man up to their standards. They do keep saying that, don't they? Sometimes incessantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:43 PM
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But many dudes here openly admit that they don't want to even have a conversation with a woman, they say women only lie and want to take things from them, and the only thing women have to offer is sex. I can guess where they learned that behavior. They sound like gender swapped radfems.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:13 PM
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I personally think that the phrase "men only want sex" definitely is true. I think a lot of PPD women probably think that. They're not exactly a fair representative sample of women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:11 PM
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Yes but one is a lot more likely compared to the other. On that I agree, especially in regard to "men only want sex" overwhelmingly being used as a tool.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:05 PM
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It can be that. Just as it can be other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 06:53 PM
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Guy plays video games. His girlfriend tells him "all you care about is video games" as a tool to get him to play less video games. She knows he cares about more than video games. Same with sex. But as a concerted effort by women who would apparently try to shame men out of being horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 06:20 PM
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"Men only want sex" isn't even a perspective that women actually have I think. It's just a tool that they use to make men ask for sex less.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:57 PM
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They probably can't. I sincerely believe history's handling of women and their sexuality is a series of ham-fisted attempts to reconcile their natural mating habits with maintaining human civilizations. But you can't tame nature. At least not for long. As far as what those women can do - learn to be OK with sharing?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:40 PM
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As do the women who find it difficult to find worthwhile partners. Because that's ultimately the crux of their issue. Well, that and displacing the blame onto men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:02 PM
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I’m not sure what you want to hear Your reasoning for why you'd suggest dating apps would effectively suppress their customers from using the apps in the ways that make them believe the apps are worth paying for. Again though, if you don't actually think that, then disregard.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 12:15 AM
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Continuing to use the service is implied in "worth paying for".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 06:21 PM
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They would train their algorithms to drive their primary customers away...because bars let women in for free? I'm still not seeing any sense being made here. *If you're trying to say "more women in bars = more men in bars" then...sure. In bars. Where you can't just fake the number of women that are seemingly present. If you owned a dating app, and you saw that men were far and away your primary customers, and their tactic was far and away mass swiping, why would you have the algorithm do anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:25 PM
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Why would those companies train their algorithms to give their primary customers a diminishing user experience? That doesn't make any sense at all. Unless what I just read is just wishful thinking. In which case, disregard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:11 PM
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Point to the comment that gave you that impression and I will help clarify for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:29 PM
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Why is it so difficult for you to just accept that you're wrong and aren't important enough for women to collectively lie to? Because those same women will then turn around and say they're terrified of just saying "no" to a man's advances because they think he might murder them for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:16 PM
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The commenter I responded to is looking for a direct honest list of what to do that will guarantee success for men. ...No I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:04 PM
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Men don't flee from honesty in the face of public criticism. Like, famously so. Even when they probably should.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:52 PM
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When a woman knows she you are slightly above her level she will do just about anything to keep you happy and it is a nice feeling. Or as Patrice O'Neal legendarily put it (and I'm paraphrasing here): The best relationships happen when the woman is in love, and the man is in like. Found it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:44 PM
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However you cultists will religiously defend to death the idea that they are correct about ALL women. That's actually the standard that red pill detractors demand red pill meet before acknowledging anything about it. "Women are hypergamous." "Well this woman isn't, therefore the red pill is complete nonsense!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:34 PM
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As I mentioned to another poster, honesty does not guarantee approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:11 PM
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Honesty doesn't guarantee approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:51 PM
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I'd say if the only purpose of doing so is to be a contrarian to anything the red pill says, then probably not. Unless you get something out of it of course, in which case have at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:31 PM
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Is your honesty always in direct contradiction to anything the red pill ever says about women? Almost as if it was specifically tailored to be so? If so, then that's probably why. There's also the issue of women, be they liars or outliers, who think "I'm not like that!" is an adequate rebuttal to men's general observations about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:23 PM
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It’s not women’s job to give men directions from point a to point sex. I agree, and I wish they'd stop trying because it enables the bad actors among them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:58 PM
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I imagine if men adhered as faithfully to the '80/20 rule' as women do as far as sexual selection goes, women would have the same grievances about being settled for sexually. Instead, women complain about not being settled for by the men they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:50 PM
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We can't control what turns us on But you can at least be honest about it. Which, if you're paying any attention, is what men are annoyed about. Not what women are attracted to, but all of the ridiculous gaslight-y virtue signaling that goes into obfuscating it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:28 PM
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If we're only talking about extremes, virgin is probably going to be preferable to the town bike for most men as far as wives go.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:15 AM
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I've always just seen them as women with prostitute mentalities who are too proud to just embrace the reality. If they're so worried about being "used" for sex then why not just slap an acceptable price tag on it and be done with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:38 PM
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Attracted to doesn't mean only Chads though. This is missing the point. "Chad" doesn't get all the attention, but he gets enough of it that the bar ends up in hell for him. The guy most women aren't into, but one woman happens to like? The bar isn't in hell for him. You can be sure of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:19 PM
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As I'm sure others will have already pointed out: Whenever a woman says "Men" in the context of the title, what she really means is "Men I'm attracted to". So what they're really saying is "The bar is in hell for men I'm attracted to." Why is the bar in hell for the men they're attracted to? For the same reason the bar is in hell for all of the Belle Delphines of the world - because the demand for them allows it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 08:33 PM
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going to a primarily female activity just to meet women who are there to workout is arguably a tad creepy. As is a woman going out of her way to grab men's attention, which is why both parties will employ plausible deniability. "I don't dress like this for men's attention." "I don't go to this otherwise entirely female Pilates class to meet women." Completely undisprovable. The perfect scheme.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:53 PM
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Ducks never stop pooping. Never. They poop in their sleep. Just thought I'd chime in with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 07:39 PM
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Because they presumably want a man who possesses a modicum of self-respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 04:20 PM
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“Don’t let a woman make you work for what Chad gets for free” What's wrong with that? The idea that a woman would make you work for anything, let alone what she gave another man for free should be a revolting concept to any self-respecting man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 03:08 PM
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Not the other guy but... I live in the southwest and I can tell you my experience has been a lot closer to yours than theirs. Maybe not 90/10, but more like 80/20, but with the 20 generally only applying to the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 02:50 PM
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It sounds like you're not familiar with the purpose of the phrase "it's not you, it's me".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 06:08 PM
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You should google the phrase "useful idiot", because that's what they were referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 05:14 PM
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On the one hand it is power and potentially money they are lied to and told that it's empowering to show off their bodies. So is it a lie or isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:00 PM
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Because it isn’t true. Case in point. This applies to so many topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:09 PM
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Males have convinced themselves that the majority of women's standards are unrealistic. Women's standards are unrealistic for monogamy. If we want to go back to harems where women just share the top men then they're not unrealistic. The thing is, women don't seem to like the idea of sharing, and that's the conundrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 05:50 PM
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They want men to have friend groups because they want to observe where he stands in the pecking order as a matter of determining if he's worth being with. The "I don't know if he'll murder me unless he has friends" stuff is just plausible deniability for the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 04:38 PM
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They can be but if "loyal to a fault" is specifically what you're looking for then that's the wrong demographic to be looking for it. Like women with high body counts. They can be loyal, but... proceed at your own risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 04:25 PM
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From the fever dream of a presumably liberal woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:25 PM
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Nope, because to explain why they do it, first they have to acknowledge that they do it in the first place, which is the step we're always getting stuck at.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:41 PM
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It's what dressing modestly represents that men prefer, not the dress itself. Opting out of dressing in a manner that optimizes the attention she'll receive from other men is a form of respect she shows the man she's with. It's her way of saying "I don't need their attention because I have yours." There will be a million narcissistic retorts along the lines of "fuck him, she can wear whatever she wants", which just goes to show in part why the dating landscape is so fucked up right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:40 AM
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I'm saying the cult of Donald Trump includes those who spend all day hating him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:20 PM
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All of the people in here arguing that marriage vows should be meaningless, but also that marriage is meaningful need to pick a lane.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:12 PM
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Trump Derangement Syndrome works in both directions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:40 PM
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It's the amount of time you spend "hating Trump" that generally predicts pretty accurately how far down the "woke" spectrum you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:23 PM
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Some women want puppies, not boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:09 PM
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I didn't describe anything about her. If anything your takeaway should have been that he's codependent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 05:20 PM
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