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I am progressive but I agree the left is doing a bad job. They spent years talking specifically to women and minorities. Every problem in society they talk about is framed in terms of women and minorities, or at least that's the image I have even as a progressive. They need to mention men more in positive context. And not in the "this man is such an ally/feminist, you need to be more like him" way. Imagine a left politician talking about discrimination against boys in K-12 or the fact that way m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:03 AM
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You are infantilizing grown women just because they don't live in a western country. The "passport bros" only have as much power over the woman as she chooses to give them. It isn't like they are citizens or high up in the foreign society and can coerce a woman into dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:57 AM
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I think you misread my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:09 AM
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I think it basically boils down to wanting to be valued for everything about me, but it can be split into intrinsic stuff and effort. Intrinsic stuff are things like my values, my intelligence, humor, non-gym related physical attractiveness (face and hair). Basically "she thought I was hot and had a great personality before we were official". Effort is the stuff I do that helps maintain a healthy relationship. I'm a great cook and baker and will make stuff specifically for my (hypothetical) gf. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:28 PM
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Nah dude, you just should keep your amateur porn writing to yourself, it's gross. "My sexual ability" would have sufficed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:09 PM
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The wall is 2 things: Approaching the age where conceiving children becomes much more difficult, ill advised (higher rates of disability), or impossible. The signs of aging become much more apparent while a woman's physical attractiveness is heavily tied to youth. The first one is just a biological fact, that can't be a psyop. The second one is more of a societal fact perpetrated by both men and women, in the same way that taller men are seen as more attractive than shorter men. The wall is just…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:02 PM
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The "why do men go for toxic men" argument goes off the societal rhetoric around what women want. Men are open about how much they value physical attraction. They talk about making exceptions for hot women all the time. The whole "hot but crazy" thing for example. Women hide how much they value physical attraction or literally just don't even understand it themselves. If a guy is having trouble getting women, it is automatically assumed (by general society and especially women, not the pilled pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 07:50 PM
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Nah, a ton of red pill men explicitly mention wanting a "submissive" woman. It's a valid topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 07:37 PM
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Men definitely aren't immune to societal influences, the difference is they hit a wall. Also, we are ignoring the schizos on both sides who are completely detached from reality - just focusing on the average person. When a woman believes she deserves a hotter or richer man, she can usually get one of them to sleep with her. I know someone who goes on old rich guy's boats and goes to "swanky" parties, it's way more common than people think (though she is attractive tbf). A woman who is a 5 can ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 04:16 AM
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I was ready to agree with your title but your view is biased by your experiences with your family. The "real" me isn't someone who is violent or says hurtful things. None of my friends are like that, even the ones who have a background in martial arts (which I also have). Playing violent or competitive video games doesn't change that about us. Also both men and women have to be fake at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 04:08 AM
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Not reading that essay. It isn't about the end of the tunnel - it is about the lack of prospective partners for successful men and the amount of effort REQUIRED just to find a potential partner. Online dating and social media has given the average women the idea that she deserves someone extraordinary when all she offers is companionship. Even the guys who do get dates have to jump through an increasing number of hoops just to convince a woman to hang out with them and meet some impossible list …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 09:30 PM
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Most "bad" men are not good liars anyways, women just ignore it because the dude is hot / tall. I remember this girl I knew in college, this dude grabbed her ass for a long time on the literal first date when they were walking around a public park. It was clearly fucking weird but she "found it cute" because he was 6'6". I don't think it's that hard. Is he making time for you? Is he nice and are his friends nice? When you ask him about commitment, do you get a straight answer? Does he remember t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 06:03 AM
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This is just straight up wrong and a take this bad is really just an indication your parents have a terrible marriage or are divorced. You also sound like you've never been in love. If nothing else mattered besides sex, then every single guy would be trying to have as much sex as possible. We'd see way more prostitution use and way more casual sex. I literally don't have a single friend who is just looking for a hookup - all the single ones are looking for girlfriends. Men don’t “fall for” women…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:05 PM
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You're missing the point about the whole wife beater / cheater / DV argument. Some women don’t have that peace, so they will accept less and have lower standards Why aren't these women (who you claim can't stay single) choosing cheaters / abusers instead of chronically single guys who would never do that? The guys you're talking about aren't arguing that someone who is happily single and doesn't really want a relationship should date them. They're saying that women obviously do want relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:53 PM
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I was talking to a girl for a couple weeks, one night we were talking about online dating. She said the average man gets lots of matches, goes on lots of dates, and will approach women in public. I told her none of that is true (in an extremely polite way) and she got so mad at me disagreeing that she stopped talking to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:12 AM
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Red pill literally changed my life. It gave me a game plan on how to interact with women when I had little experience and I used stuff (like how to respond to shit tests, how to stay confident / maintain frame, how much attention to give, how to plan a date) to eventually achieve my goal of getting a girlfriend. I think casual sex is self-destructive so I avoid it, but red pill was still able to help me. Red pill was great for me but also takes some of the "mystery" around dating away. I actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:44 PM
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It is on men (simps) to not enable it, but both genders reinforce it. I always do inexpensive first dates. About half of the numbers I get off online dating ghost once I suggest something other than free dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 07:18 PM
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This thread is full of people who have never been in a sexless relationship. It's much worse than society would have you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 07:14 PM
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Those affect things but they aren't the main or core problems. Staying at home is much more fun than it used to be. When there were only 3 channels and no internet, people had to leave their apartment to avoid boredom. Now the choice of "going out on a date or to socialize" is harder than you are giving up guaranteed fun doing something you know you like (watching shitty reality TV, playing video games etc). Greater choice: through online dating, women have a much greater ability to meet tons of…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 07:10 PM
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I think most women have responsive sexual desire which means they need some kind of buildup to get their libido going. But "desire to talk to that really hot guy" is mostly spontaneous. Most men have spontaneous sexual desire, they see a hot girl and think about sex immediately and could go have it without any buildup given the chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 04:53 AM
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Shit tests and negging both come from pick up artist (PUA) vocabulary. The problem is many of the current "pilled" people have forgotten that the pills all came from that sphere. Negging is intentionally saying something a little insulting or undermining to make a woman seek your approval. It is essentially a step farther than playful teasing. It signals to the girl that even though she is used to free attention and compliments, she has to earn that from you because you don't care that much abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 04:45 AM
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Oh I wasn't aware of that. I was just going off the big 5 stuff I read + what I've seen in real life. I'm also biased because I'm already a (very happy) man and have seen how much my exes have stressed about the most pointless shit. Maybe it's easier as a girl then.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:03 PM
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I think all life circumstances equal, women have it harder simply because they are more neurotic. Even the most capable and intelligent women I know are more prone to mood swings, random bad moods, high stress, and anxiety. Most dudes I know are pretty chill and happy enough most of the time. Not sure if it is biological, hormonal, or just a skill issue, but that pattern isn't just anecdotal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:32 AM
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Dude why do you care so much? I'm trying to remember shit from over a decade ago and I obviously never pulled out a tape measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:33 PM
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If you live in a wealthier white area then a lot more guys are taller than the national average. But also he probably wasn't even 6ft in high school, just tall enough to be a bit above average / pass the arbitrary height requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 04:18 PM
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The hard truth is you have to learn to act masculine. Even in women's fantasies featuring caring, emotional, slightly more effeminate men, the men are still super competent, confident, and dominant when they need to be (also tall and ripped). There are fewer "my shy twink boyfriend who cries a lot" stories and those largely feature 2 men. Whether or not you care how you act, people will judge you for it. Dating as a man takes work, try online dating, try hitting on women, you have to put in effo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:56 PM
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At my high school it was not that rare. I could tell the difference between "just looks" and "looks + behavior" and I definitely saw girls admire him for his obvious lies and asshole behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:50 PM
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Another side of consistency is not making mistakes in the first place. I replied to someone else saying basically the same thing, I'm saying here so I'll use a different example. Men don't want a wife who had 1 train ran on her and "learned she didn't like it". Men want a wife who had 0 trains ran on her because she should know in advance that it's a degenerate or stupid thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:48 PM
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People are allowed to learn A lot of men (myself included) don't want someone who had to learn. That's my point about consistency. I would never date an ex drug addict because I'm not someone who would ever make the mistake of doing drugs. Men literally have countless stories and warnings about dating an "ex ho", "can't turn a ho into a housewife" is a common phrase.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 03:44 PM
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Nah, there are definitely tons of women out there who like *good looking assholes. I knew this guy in high school. All he did was lie about shit like training MMA for years (he was skinny fat) or racing cars for $$$ (no way lmao). He was also just kind mean and a whiny bitch. Buuut he was 6ft and had a decent enough jaw line so he didn't struggle much with women. Which was funny to me considering how pathetic I could clearly tell he was. It was also right as I started getting into red pill (for …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 06:09 AM
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I can imagine 3 types of dudes who fit that criteria based off my experience: Gay dude: he's gay so he relates more with women Gay adjacent dude: he might be straight but he acts pretty effeminate either naturally or on purpose to interact with women. Unthreatening simp: an average looking dude who goes out of his way to do shit for women, adopt traditionally female hobbies / views / activities (like watching shitty reality dating shows). Women are friends with him because he does a ton of shit …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:55 AM
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I think the view your critiquing is really simple to understand. They want women to be consistently chaste in the beginning of a relationship. Nothing about it is impossible. I'll put it in terms of commitment. If I want to go in a 4th date with someone, I'm monogamous at that point. Going on different first or second dates it's no big deal, but by the time of a third date I'm already considering an exclusive "relationship" even if we aren't bf/gf yet. That has remained consistent for every girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:46 AM
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Based off my conversations about this topic with women I've been on dates on, I do understand it. I can't empathize with it though because all their complaints are complete skill issues or self inflicted. Match with too many men? Stop swiping so much. Have to go on a date that night? The man had to plan it and will be paying for it. Scared of getting assaulted? Only agree to dates in public places at safe times. The date sucked because the man was boring? Move on, men go through this too. The ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 05:20 AM
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Benefit: the desire to have and raise your own child(ren) is one of the strongest desires of many people's lives and they find the greatest life fulfillment through satisfying it. I like people having the choice to make that decision, I hate that the shitty economy and massive wealth inequality is making people avoid it. And that is from someone who doesn't want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 04:41 AM
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I have nothing against trans people and won't deadname or misgender them, but I've also never met one who doesn't have childhood trauma. I'm firmly in the camp of "let people do what they want to themselves if it doesn't affect others" and I'll never claim to be an expert on any of this. But in my experience, being trans doesn't seem as firmly "I was born this way" as something like being a gay man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 05:37 PM
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I'd argue that there are men who genuinely don't like independent women. Some men really want a submissive, quiet, SAHM and are grossed out by career women. That said, for every hyper independent woman, there are at least 2 men who would love that. So if they struggle to date, it's a skill issue not a supply issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:16 AM
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Your hypothetical is completely made up, it's like saying "I'm right because God said so". I think most men just have way fewer options. In surveys, a higher percentage of men say they've cheated when compared to women. Now women are queens of mental gymnastics so take that with a grain of salt, but monkey branching and hypergamy exists across genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:14 AM
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Nightclubs are trash but they're not going anywhere. You can't talk to anyone, hearing damage, you have to pay to get in (and maybe even wait in line) then pay for expensive ass watered down drinks, and the music will probably suck anyways. That said, there will always be a significant population of men who go there to be drunk / on drugs and try to pick up women, and women who go there for the free drinks and attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:10 AM
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Then I would be in the same position that I am currently in lol. Looking for a life partner and disappointed with what I can find. At least men don't suffer from the same level of delusional standards I see in women nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 03:30 PM
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Women aren't psychic, they can't magically find out about my mean internet comments. I'm not some idiot who goes on a date just to not be friendly or engaged. The first date I went on after my last relationship, the girl spent 1.5 hours ranting to me about how poorly her parents raised her and that's why she's such a loser in life. I've been on a date with a speech language pathologist who was both a terrible conversationalist and significantly uglier than her pictures. I've been on dates with a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 02:20 PM
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Yeah of course, keep in mind I meet or exceed all of these. At least a bachelors degree: I went to a pretty highly ranked university but don't really care where they went. I find having a masters attractive but don't have one myself so it's not a requirement. No drugs and reasonable alcohol consumption: I have never drank or done any drugs and I believe stuff like weed literally makes you stupider Attractive to me: based on my past relationships and the women I match with on apps, I have very re…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 01:58 PM
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One that is rarely mentioned is if a woman genuinely puts effort into your conversation. It is so fucking rare to find nowadays with the meat gallery of online dating and the deterioration of social skills. You have to pair it with other IoIs but a woman asking you questions instead of just giving short answers when you try to make conversation can be a massive indicator.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 08:40 PM
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It is a remnant of the PUA days. Redpill itself came from the pickup artist advice forums and "The Game" by Neil Strauss. Since this was all before dating apps, their main advice was to approach as many women as possible to increase your chances of sex (along with tips on how to do that). Nowadays, people just see how shitty dating apps are for most men and suggest cold approach as an alternative. A lot of "having lots of sex" is just massively increasing how much you interact with women so it m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 08:36 PM
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1-3: A monogamous relationship with someone who matches all the standards I hold myself to and has compatible life views That's what I already look for (haven't found it yet) and it is my problem with dating. Lots of broke, 0 discipline, 0 skills women with a throwaway college degree, a garbage body composition, and 0 plan in life looking for Mr Male Model Millionaire.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 08:29 PM
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The bar is low as hell This is completely false, no matter how much women claim it's true. This might honestly be the best time in history for them What about this time makes it better than the past? Social media has given everyone an inflated view of what their life should be like. Online dating "technically" has the ability to connect you with more people, but in reality only a small percentage of men see any benefit from it. Also, nearly any women between 18-40 can swipe for a single day and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:18 AM
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The obsession with virgins is usually not about "how good the sex will be", except for when it's a fetish. It's about the fact that she has no past partners to influence her. I don't care about virginity but I have a low body count myself and would never wife up a woman with a high body count. It's not a lack of ability to get sex, but because I made an active choice to avoid casual sex. I believe that every time you have casual sex, you lower your ability to pair bond (both genders) and adding …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:15 PM
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If you don’t want to be below your future girlfriend, you should make it a life goal to sleep with as many women as possible Maybe for your partners. If I end up marrying, it will be to someone with a low body count who thinks having a high body count is stupid regardless of gender. When you’ve slept with a lot of women and experienced everything, her past or what she’s done won’t matter anymore, "Just become a man whore so you can marry a whore". Yeah, I'm not taking that advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:26 AM
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Disagreed, it depends on the person. You can make a logical argument for nearly any tradition or event that "there is no point". But it isn't like anyone knows what the point of life is. Even if you removed all the legal implications of marriage, it would still "have a point" for some people because it makes them very happy. I think that's enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 08:06 AM
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I think it's more that most people suck at communication but everyone also overvalues their skills. Women especially are fed lots of propaganda about how special they are + "communication skill" is seen as a more feminine trait (because more physical skills are associated with masculinity) so you get this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:41 PM
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Agreed. Women tend to have a massive blind spot when it comes to other women, just look at how much they gas up obese chicks. I think it partly comes from the history of stereotypical gender roles where the man worked and the women stayed at home. So an ideal female partner would not need to be educated or have any income. If they were kind, pretty, and good at house chores then they'd be a catch. Anything beyond that is seen as an extraordinary accomplishment. When you combine that with the con…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:37 PM
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It is accurate. This is the natural consequence of spending years pushing women into high earning fields and encouraging them to be extremely biased in favor of other women. Women only training programs, women only internships, women only clubs, women only scholarships, women only career fairs - all of these exist across the US (my country). I've had HR (women) try and get me to drop out of the interview process so their female friend could take the job (that they were not at all qualified for).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 06:29 AM
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I was reading red pill content a decade ago and even back then it was full of made up "field reports" and insane takes. That was long before it was mainstream. I'm not saying it doesn't have valid points and good advice (I wholeheartedly recommend reading about "shit tests" to guys struggling with dating) but it has always been full of trash too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:54 PM
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I think a lot of that stuff is spelled out in extremes because a vast swath of men are retarded spergs who otherwise wouldn’t get it I'm not saying that you want that scenario, I'm saying you are making excuses for that kind of rhetoric with this quote. It goes beyond being "spelled out" and a ton of the red pill is like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 06:23 AM
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But in summary, you want to treat the relationship as a boss-employee dynamic This is a direct quote from an upvoted post on theredpill sub. You are making excuses for extreme(ly retarded) takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 04:55 PM
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This is such a stupid comparison. Most people work because they have to and people aren't "submitting" to their boss. This whole post just screams "I watch boss cuck porn".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:28 PM
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I think "purple pillers" like me are people better equipped to answer this question. I wouldn't call it "wavering". But as someone who has been red pilled and is now purple pill I basically just adjusted my views based on personal experiences with each stuff. Like I support the black pill view of "looks matter way more than society admits and are largely genetic". I think a pure "red pill" relationship is depressing, why the fuck would I want to have to mind game / dread game / hold frame with s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:07 PM
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I'll disagree a bit and say it could be a learned response. Going on dates, I've found that if you aren't overtly sexual early then women lose interest. I don't get why and it's not who I naturally am, but it is something I just have to adapt to because "taking things slow" (not unreasonably, literally just waiting for 3rd date to kiss) does not work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:16 PM
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Sapiosexual in general is just a stupid term. Sapiosexual implies the opposite, "I only want my partner to be dumb as fuck", who has ever said that? Your main point is really that any "traits" women claim to find attractive are always precluded by physical attractiveness. A super funny, super ugly guy can't date models unless he turns that into massive wealth and fame. I think this goes for men too, but men are just more willing to admit that physical attractiveness is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:12 PM
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How many women actually expect an expensive dinner for the first date Where I live, every meal is expensive. And roughly 50% of the women that I get a number from (while actively filtering out women who look like they just want a free meal) will ghost me once they realize I don't go to dinner as a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 04:01 PM
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Yes to all those questions, I'm not just making up what my previous comment said.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 03:48 PM
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but where some degree of purely physical polygamy is allowed for the man Literally no guy I know wants this what the fuck. They (including me) all just want a loving monogamous relationship that includes sex with their long term partner / wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:51 PM
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Yeah I agree. This is definitely a "not all women" topic, but I've never seen arrogance hurt a guy. There was this dude who was tangentially part of a friend group years ago. He bragged about doing MMA (he was skinny fat), making $20K+ doing illegal street races (0 evidence), and was just generally a douche. He was relatively attractive and tall but nowhere near model tier, yet multiple women were attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:33 PM
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Lol I wonder if we live in the same area, I also think my city is a big hindrance. But I care about my career trajectory too much to move right now so I just have to keep trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:23 PM
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No, men dream being rich, women dream of a rich husband. I think it shows the level of privilege that women have: a viable life plan for many of them is "be taken care of by my partner". I hate how passive it is and it shows on online dating. Women holding out hope for some millionaire celebrity to magically appear and pick them. Stuff like "take me on dates", "buy my flowers", "buy me flights" show up constantly in prompt answers on Hinge. Look at the romance / smut / romantasy genres - a ton o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 04:13 PM
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Every standard I have I meet or exceed because I care about not being a hypocrite (in everything, not just dating). Education: I have a bachelor's and want a partner who has one, it's rare that they have a masters or went to a "better university" than me but it's happened Career: I've yet to go on a date with a woman who has a better career than me. Financially, I live very cheaply naturally (if you like home cooking and free nature activities that's all it really takes) and invest a lot so I'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:59 PM
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If you were actually 6'3", looked 30, and had "Hollywood good looks", women would overtly show their interest in you. Your last sentence is just false. There is countless evidence showing an average dude will struggle with dating. Being 5'8" and average looking does nothing for you, and the "career trajectory" thing only kicks in when you're 30+ (so you can save a woman who spent her 20s making terrible decisions). You are also facing a non-issue. Just practice talking to people?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:40 PM
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Yeah but it is essentially a subset of the "want a house wife" group. Women being the sole breadwinner is becoming more common, but that usually happens in long term relationships based on financial decision making. You can very easily find tons of men talking about how they want a stay at home wife/mom and want to be the sole breadwinner. It is extremely hard to find women saying the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:32 PM
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I've dated a woman who made more money than me. If I had wanted to be a "house husband" she probably would have left me. Men have centuries of social tradition to push them to be attracted to women who don't work. Women have the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:29 PM
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They are. I'm a straight Gen Z man, college educated, good career, relatively attractive, and can go on a lot of dates off of dating apps. That is still not enough for women my age - the vast majority I see are basically waiting for some millionaire male model to magically want to marry them so they never have to work. The fact that I'm on the path to be a millionaire (just FIRE + good income) isn't enough, you need generational wealth to be attractive to these woman. A man dreams of becoming ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:49 AM
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I'm sure if men today were willing to be pretty home makers, some rich women would snap them up This is just completely false. Just look at the "sugar daddy" vs "sugar mommy" pool - there are wayyyy more "sugar daddys".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:47 AM
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how would you go about dating hvm I would go about dating the exact same way I am trying to do it currently. Go on 1-3 dates with people I'm attracted to and feel might be compatible, eventually commit to exclusively dating to see if there is long term compatibility, and hopefully find a life partner. All of my "standards" are things that I either meet or exceed so I wouldn't change them as a woman. I definitely would never think about that "high value" bullshit. What hard skills (cooking, money…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:53 AM
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This is like when childfree people argue nobody can be happy having children because they can't imagine that some people genuinely want kids and feel fulfilled having them. You basically just described an ugly pervert and then said that all guys are like that and thus all guys can offer nothing to women. My experience with dating has very consistently been that women just want attention. I actually "offer" quite a bit - I pay for early dates (insanely rare for a women to offer to split), I plan …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:45 AM
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The worst teachers and the worst managers I've ever had were all women. Most of it just came down to plain old sexism - blatant bias in favor of girls and and against boys. I know it definitely exists, but I have yet to see that from any male teachers or managers I've had. But I don't think you can generalize either gender as more likely to abuse their power.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:38 AM
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youre exhausting to be around and youre nowhere near as reliable as you expect me to be for you The problem with "emotional labor" is the term was popularized by feminists who wanted to highlight how much "unseen work" women do for their male partners. Unseen work is something that happens in relationships and it is worth pointing out, so I didn't really disagree with that definition for a while. However, that changed now that I've been in relationships. As a competent, non-manchild with family …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 04:05 PM
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Counterpoint: I see a ton of very ugly women on dating apps and yet they obviously get more matches than I do. In my experience, women consistently overrate themselves and their friends. I went to a university where the men were clearly better looking than the women on average (due to the demographics of that university) and yet all the women I've talked to said the women were way better looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 06:32 PM
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If you check his post history he's bipolar with a ton of sexual orientation issues. Not really a midlife crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 06:28 PM
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High status obviously helps, look at all the women who talk about how attractive some mid tier or ugly male celebrity is. Your issue is you have very clear mental health issues and didn't go to college (one of the easiest places to meet women). Being a rapper isn't about how good your freestyles and rhymes are, it's about if you can release a hit song. My suggestion is to work on a career of some kind and have rapping as your backup / side project. Chances of you actually becoming even slightly …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 06:27 PM
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Someone who was kind of part of my friend group in high school. Showed us her tinder profile and all the messages she had while she was talking about how ugly they all were (they weren't). She is overweight with shitty tattoos and nothing to make up for it (like being a really kind person, likable, or having a great career).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 09:58 PM
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As long as you are exercising common sense, the blame is only on the perpetrator. You could argue it isn't "victim blaming" to think someone ignoring warning signs and taking no safety precautions is an idiot but I think that's just the semantics. That said, I wish we didn't live in a world where people had to take safety precautions and avoid certain places.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 07:13 PM
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Views like this are stupid because they fail to consider that many people (men included) genuinely want to have kids and get the most amount of joy in their life from raising them. It's that simple. I personally don't want kids, but I also understand why my parents wanted them and have never regretted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:52 PM
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It's just a collection of experiences over my life. Meeting a very attractive man who has girls constantly swooning over him (a Chad) is rare. Meeting a girl who talks about how all the men interested in her are ugly (they are better looking than her) or how she needs someone who makes at least $200K (she's a broke receptionist) is more common than not. This has held true throughout college with my the female friends there and as a post college adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:49 PM
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I don't really know any chads but I've talked to a lot of women who are completely delusional about their attractiveness (both physical and as a partner) due to the attention they receive on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:24 PM
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The majority of couples now meet on apps. I know statistic don't work this way, but by cutting off apps, you could argue you are reducing your chances of finding a compatible partner by 50%. Most of my successful past relationships came from dating apps. You keep trying to invalidate my personal experiences because you don't like the conclusion I'm drawing from them. But you don't know me so I don't care, there isn't something I'm overlooking that would instantly improve my chances of finding a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:22 PM
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Yeah, which is why I specified "still single".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:14 PM
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As a disclaimer, I'm really just explaining the view rather than saying I agree with all of it. The lifetime of most women according to the whole Chad view goes like this: 18-30: the world of dating opens up after high school. Women realize how much attention they get without even trying, can start use dating apps, and start raising their standards astronomically. This leads to women (even the ones who are "not into casual sex") pursuing Chads, sleeping with them in hopes of becoming their girlf…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 02:44 PM
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guy who is truly the full package to that extent is so rare that he’s not even worth considering as a part of your whole mental map The argument is that women DO consider Chad as "what they deserve" so every other guy is disappointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:04 AM
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it’s equally as selfish for a woman to “love” a man because he is rich as it is for a man to “love” a woman because she has big tits. you love her because she has something that benefits you. I'm going to ignore the whole "unconditional love" debate and just say I agree with this. If you're love is predicated on a strictly simple measurement rather than the whole person, then it is shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 05:50 PM
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I think self improvement is beneficial for everyone and I make a very concentrated effort to improve myself. However, I don't think it is "the only antidote" given it has not translated to dating success (finding a long term partner) for me - and I started at a pretty high baseline already. I think a "social culture" where strangers talk to each other, there are lots of places to hang out so people leave their apartments/homes, and you are able to easily interact with people outside of your "cir…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 05:47 PM
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As someone who lives in one of the "best" cities, that list is fucking lie. Literally every thread I've found about dating in my area is full of people who say dating was so much easier and better when they didn't live here. I haven't lived /dated in other cities but my shit experience with dating here is in line with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 05:37 PM
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Yep, I agree. I live in a city that is absolute shit for men trying to date, even for me who is able to get dates. The gender balance is terrible and a lot of the women are just ugly (but obviously still have super high standards because of the gender ratio). Then you add on that my HCOL city is famously anti-social and it's impossible to meet strangers who want to do anything other than rot in their apartment. I have seriously considered that it might be necessary for me to move to find a wife …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 05:17 PM
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I agree. There are matchmaking services that are relatively successful because they realistically filter for a potential partner and in theory a dating app can do all that if it was popular. The concept of "the perfect dating app" is really interesting though. I imagine something where researchers come up with 100 questions to answer about life and interests and then it shows you profiles similar to yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 05:06 AM
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Chad is specifically a guy who is very attractive (usually people say 8/10 or higher) and as such receives a lot of attention from women. Broke, tall, handsome guy This is the chad. 6-6-6 doesn't make you a chad, it is all about height + facial attractiveness. Online though you will also see chad just used as a compliment with no specific attractiveness attached. Like "this guy did something really cool, what a chad".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 05:00 AM
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Not sure this is a debate, the passportbro subreddit would agree with you. Sure, they talk about traditional values or whatever, but they know women in other countries are more attracted to them because they are richer/green card/white/American/whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 04:57 AM
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Goddamn that post is gross (even though I believe 99% of stuff on that subreddit is fake). It definitely happens even if that is made up. Really makes me want to mgtow.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 04:52 AM
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You seem to misunderstand most of what you are talking about. 80/20 rule People tend to LTR or marry within their "league" but the 80/20 rule is not about that. It is about how young women pursue the top 20% of men for as long as they can and only settle for the bottom 80% (since they can't all date and marry a 20%er). The real life effect is really attractive men having tons of options, attention, and possibly sex from most women, while a male 6 can't even get a female 5 to look his way. Chad n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 04:47 AM
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I've talked about it with my past relationships if it comes up. They've all agreed whenever I make a point. Tbf, I don't have super radical views, I just believe in stuff like "looks are way more important than society pretends" and "men and women can't be super close friends".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 05:19 PM
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Yeah easily. I said in a different comment that there are men I've chosen to avoid because they come off as assholes or creeps. Those did not in any way translate to lack of success with women. I've also "vetted" my share of women out of my dating pool without regard to their looks which is where a lot of people fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 05:16 PM
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It also perpetuates this myth that overweight people are just inherently nicer people with better personalities. Just a pet peeve of mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:32 AM
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am I missing red flags I mean the answer is this because it is a consistent pattern. I don't want to "victim blame" because the blame is really on the men. But If I keep walking through a specific alley to work and get mugged every time, people would start to question why I keep walking through that alley. Every single one of my friends has never done any of those things and they are all very respectful of boundaries (myself included). But I remember some guys in high school who I knew tangentia…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:26 AM
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People are allowed to complain about food poisoning, the issue is they complain about it to a starving homeless man (men struggling to get dates) and say they face equal struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:20 AM
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Completely agree. Even as a guy who actually can get dates with attractive women, I have to do so much. I have to swipe constantly to keep my account active, steer the whole conversation from beginning to getting their number, plan a date, plan my day around the date (so many women will cancel a first date if they have to drive more than 10 mins so I am usually driving 30+ in traffic), and then basically be as charming as possible to try and get a second. A women has to 1. swipe whenever she fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:16 AM
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Sydney Sweeney "mid" comments are more to say she is massively popular for her looks when she actually isn't "out of this world" attractive. That said, I also think it's a waste of time and see why people find those comment annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:07 AM
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How is that any different from how everyone else is interpreting it? The whole point of this post (and the men commenting) is that women will say that, but in reality their actions don't follow that - they don't "settle" for an ugly guy who is funny even if they claim that's what they would do. I don't get why you are so hostile.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:37 PM
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Yeah, I agree with the simple statement of "date someone you are compatible with" that OP is basically saying (shocking lol, Lilith making some good posts recently). But there is a tendency I've seen in women to just come up with boring shit to do. My ex would order a ton of clothes despite having a complete wardrobe (she didn't have a shopping addiction though), then have to return basically all of them which created constant chores. Then she'd get stressed and sweaty dealing with bad traffic a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:13 PM
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I'm not sure what your point is. If a woman very explicitly says "The bar is literally just be funny. That's it." how should we interpret that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 03:05 PM
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Women care about both This post is explicitly about "low bar" statements. In my example, they are saying they only care about humor and I'm saying that's not the case. You are agreeing with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 02:59 PM
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The post is explicitly about people who expect commitment / effort / attention, don't give it back, then complain that they are getting none. I'm not going to go through life putting up constant shit tests for women to pass. That's what women do to men and redpillers complain endlessly about it because it sucks. My number one rule is to not be a hypocrite. So if I want a woman who is willing to put effort and commitment into our relationship, I will be willing to do the same. Also will all due r…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:32 AM
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Bad rage bait post and not really asking any questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:20 AM
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Considering divorce statistics, seems to be about 50% likelihood of lifelong love if you are able to get relationships. If you are just talking about a loving relationship, I have loved women that I've had to eventually break up with so the % is much higher. That said, blackpill is not healthy for a 16 year old. Take it from someone who "studied" it for years and still thinks a lot of is true. You are in a stage in life where you can get a head start on your peers. Focus on your path to wealth -…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 02:38 AM
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This is a bad analogy, you can easily just use a very common trope in anime to make it look bad. Anime (male gaze): extreme loser is granted overpowered abilities. Considering he is now the literal most powerful person the world, women flock to him even though he puts in 0 effort. Generic wish fulfillment isekai is the hallmark movie of the anime world, not some slice of life romance anime.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 02:27 AM
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I fully agree. It is a problem I see when trying to create friendships in both genders - I am someone who is proactive and reaches out, plans fun stuff, and is actually willing to commit to something when planned. It is exceedingly rare to find someone who does the same. Most people go about their boring lives wishing they were better but never put in the effort to improve them. In terms of dating, women put in wayyy less effort than any guy because they simply don't have to put in any effort. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 02:24 AM
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Yeah autistic men (especially introverted ones) have trouble finding partners, I'm pretty sure there's even studies on it. Unless you are both hot and famous, it will take effort to find one as a straight guy. My thinking is these women will eventually reach 30+, realize that the dating pool is shrinking and their hopes of finding a millionaire are dying, and then start "settling" for the guys who they should have been dating in the first place. But if I'm at that point in my life where those ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 09:56 PM
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By the time I'm having sex with someone, we may not be bf/gf but we are exclusive. So there is some commitment, I never said I expected sex without any commitment. Sex is also part of long term compatibility though, so I'm not jumping right into "official bf/gf" stage before that happens. And if a girl makes me wait an unreasonable amount of time, then we're incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 09:52 PM
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I have only one friend who is currently unattractive and unhygienic. It makes sense given some very sad recent events in his life leading to weight gain, but I'm also helping him get better / back to where he used to be. He has never demanded that women be attracted to him. He realizes he is unattractive right now, knows he doesn't want a woman who "looks like him" in his current state, and is not dating until he gets back to an attractive, hygienic state. What I've seen overwhelmingly while dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 09:07 PM
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I can't speak for men since I don't date them but I agree it's probably true with most people under 30. When I talked about it with one of my female friends, she said she thinks COVID just killed everyone's time management. Other people I know who interact with a lot of young people at their jobs also say there is an incredible amount of shitty self regulation, anxiety, and self diagnosing in young women. "Why do I find it hard to focus? I think I have ADHD and insomnia". Young women will say th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:54 PM
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I agree. I can't speak for childcare but I have noticed basically every woman my age has anxiety problems. My ex had a lot of unnecessary stress and anxiety for no reason: things like worrying if she was doing a good job at work literally a week after her (nice, chill, honest) manager told her she was doing great and on track for promotion. Now that I'm dating, I find every woman I go on a date with talks a lot about how busy they are. They all claim they are super busy, yet they don't have hobb…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:56 PM
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climbing is popular for both men and women As someone who lives in a city with tons of climbers, it is also a sausage fest. The # of women tend to much less than the guys and most of them already have a partner. Basically any "active" hobby outside of a flavor of workout class (like pilates) is going to be a sausage fest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:43 PM
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I'll add on all the single moms with insane standards on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:35 PM
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That post is most popular all time because it is not indicative of the subreddit. That said, dead bedrooms have a large variety of reasons and does seem pretty fairly split between genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:34 PM
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Agreed. The most common one I see is stuff like "All I ask is that you're funny" or "When he's funny". Society as a whole tries to say looks don't matter as much as they actually do. Women take that a step farther to maintain a self image that they aren't shallow and because of the whole "women care about personality, men care about looks" propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:29 PM
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There is a difference between "I'm so attracted to this guy I can't wait months to have sex" and "I will have a lot of casual sex with different people". As someone who is not interested in casual sex despite having a "high drive", my ideal partner is someone with a similar past to me - a series of relationships (with intention of long term), a high libido, but no desire for casual sex so their body count is relatively low. And just to make it clear, I do think it's hypocritical for a high body …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:22 PM
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The issue is if they treat you differently, it's that simple. If they are able to hold off on sex for weeks with you but not other guys, they aren't that attracted to you. Maybe she believes she is doing the right thing, but it is literally up to the men to judge it because they are the ones affected.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 07:45 AM
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There are a huge variety of reasons for dead bedrooms. There are a ton of men in dead bedrooms who realize their wife was never really that attracted to them and stopped having sex as soon as their life was "secured". If they had judged them more for their past (a lot of the men will talk about taking it slow at the beginning or how their wife used to be wild) then they would have avoided that fate. If a women is able to withhold her physical desire for you, then that physical desire can not be …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 06:27 AM
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I hate this trend of "don't judge others for their past". Everyone is free to judge me for my past - I'm very proud of it. You know why? Because I didn't make stupid fucking decisions and worked hard to get to where I am today. Thinking your way is how you end up in a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 06:03 AM
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I want women to have standards that they can meet themselves. That's the rule I hold myself to and I think everyone should. Unfortunately, I see so many women on dating apps with incredibly high standards while there is nothing special about them. Eventually they should realize they are 30, single, and need to come back to reality but some don't (like mid single moms saying you have to take them for dinner on a first date).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 05:48 AM
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Women withhold sex to manipulate men I've seen wayyy too many women joke about withholding sex on purpose because they know it would hurt their partner for this to not be true. That said, I think both genders fall for the "this is what I admire in my gender, so this is what is attractive to the other gender" trap. Stuff like "male gaze" and "female gaze" are helping fight against that (even if it is largely stupid) though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 05:45 AM
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I go on dates with women I find attractive. I never claim to be "model tier" and don't go for "model tier" women, but you don't need to be "model tier" to get on a old dude's boat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 05:33 AM
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I agree. I did a not-that-deep dive into "yacht girls" a while back and that opened my eyes to the fact that prostitution is way more common than just "professional" escorts. The same way that it came out most instagram "influencers" are basically just high end escorts to afford all their travel. Even on a local level, I went to school with women who definitely go on older guy's boats. I don't know if there is any sex involved or a defined transaction, but there is definitely a sexual undertone …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:07 AM
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This would only make sense if you view sex as a favor that women do for men That is largely how society frames it and how a lot of women view it. Why do you think the "birthday blowjob" is such a widely known event?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 12:24 AM
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This is the only correct answer, everything else is reading too much into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 12:23 AM
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Are they young, single, and active on dating apps? Because that is the population I've been interacting with and I've only really been disappointed. I'm not denying the existence of women with interesting hobbies - there are young women who have interesting hobbies - but they tend to already have a partner or just not be that attractive. Honestly I would probably see the same if I was a woman trying to date guys though. Most people my age tend to do a maximum of 1 "activity" a week. It probably …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 12:19 AM
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I think I agree. I can't speak for guys, but the women I've gone on dates with do nothing. Job -> rot in apartment -> repeat and then they spend a portion of the date talking about how busy they are. That's why the classic suggestion of "go join a hobby group" never works for finding a partner, most social hobbies are completely male dominated. Book clubs, Pilates, and dance seem to be the only ones that are majority young women and even then the women don't really make new friends doing them (s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 10:23 PM
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Just like most mammals, humans are just programmed to seek companionship. That includes romantic and platonic relationships. I don't disagree with the idea of wealth inequality causing a massive loss of purpose because "work hard to be successful" clearly does not exist. However, I think the biggest contributing factor is women have lower sex drives, and they can easily satisfy those drives with dating apps. The larger dating pool means they don't have to "settle" for a guy who is in their leagu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 10:11 PM
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I would move countries before I even think about "securing a partner" (to put it robotically) by being a stepdad. All the single dads should date single moms, there are roughly equal numbers of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 07:43 AM
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99% of those are fake. Don't base anything off of that sub or really any popular sub that could be used to post made up stories (aita/aitah, relationship advice, tifu, etc).
/r/seduction17/07/25 05:55 AM
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Seduction is charisma with a focus on getting your desired type of person to date or sleep with you. I'd call it a subgenre of charisma.
/r/seduction17/07/25 05:51 AM
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Everyone has different levels of sex drive and that can fluctuate over time and depending on who you are dating. Given my experience with women, I would move on - someone who wants to have sex with you would have more sex with you.
/r/seduction17/07/25 05:50 AM
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