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Social IssuesTendieDinner777/r/MensRights01/04/22 03:12 AM
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I agree, but notice how he used woman as a way to describe a person, but saying man, the counterpart, is rightly avoided because it doesn’t make sense. Some people insist that Kamala Harris is a woman Vice President, for example. Regardless of how much more common male politicians are, it would sound ridiculous to say Joe Biden is a man President.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 07:57 AM
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You can exit a genuine friendship upon being rejected for romance…it makes sense from an emotional standpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 07:55 AM
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Maybe if some women never slept with friends, some men wouldn’t be so inclined to attempt that approach. Why would you date someone who is less attractive as a partner to you than a friend who expressed a desire to be your partner? You choose your partners because you think they are better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 07:54 AM
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I’m not saying that all women who would prefer to remain friends feel entitled to the friendship. I was speculating that may be the case with some of these women. I totally understand it taking time to cope with the loss of a friendship, especially if you didn’t change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 07:31 AM
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I agree, but in your deleted comment you touched on how some men only enter the friendship in the hopes of eventually being in a romantic relationship with the woman. That seemed to be mentioned as a determining factor in whether or not she is justified in lamenting the man’s choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 07:24 AM
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Is it not plausible to you for a man to genuinely want to be your friend, develop attraction to you, and have a difficult time coping with the romantic rejection while still hanging out with you? I’m not saying that’s what happens most of the time, but I’m also not saying it’s usually a fake friendship the whole time either. It’s fair to acknowledge that you don’t actually know.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 07:15 AM
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I think your calm rejection of friendship makes her question her choice, like, “Wow, he really must have other good options.” Women are attracted to men with social status and other options. If I could only do one thing to try to attract a woman, I would simply have another woman (or even better, multiple women) who are as attractive as her or more attractive than her, positively interacting with me in front of her. It’s kind of sickening how it works that way. It’s like a wedding ring, but you’…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 07:10 AM
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You seem to be conflating sliding out of friendship completely, with hostility and aggression.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 07:05 AM
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I would say only date well-educated people, but in an era of the near ubiquitous bachelor’s degree, I don’t think those students are anything special these days. You can suck at school and forget most of the information the moment you pass each exam.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 06:52 AM
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I like the food analogy. I chickened out of using it for fear of being accused of meal-ifying women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 06:46 AM
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I agree with you to an extent, but how would you characterize a “true” friendship? What differentiates the benefits of friendship from “friendship”? Is it merely that in a “friendship” the benefits are only given with the hope of sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 06:43 AM
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I arrived at the conclusion that most people can tell based on looks whether or not they would consider dating someone, because a common theme in the thread is that “men are only befriending women to get them to date eventually” or that “women clearly only wanted to be friends with a man, otherwise they would have been dating” both of which can only happen if a judgement based entirely on looks occurs upon first meeting someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 06:36 AM
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Women get a lot of slack for their seemingly gracious attraction to utterly average men, because they are often either wealthy/stand to inherit money, well-hung/good in bed, or of higher social status/well-connected. Remember, these men merely need to possess these other attributes to a greater extent than the woman they are with in order for it to benefit them. They need not possess those attributes to a greater extent than most men. People like to pretend this isn’t the case, but it explains a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 06:29 AM
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There are still macro trends that are worth analyzing, because at the end of the day, any given person is probably going to fit mostly into that trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 06:27 AM
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I would wager that’s not a coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 06:08 AM
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What about men friends? Just kidding, I just find it funny that male is deemed acceptable, but for some reason we’re supposed to avoid saying female.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 06:07 AM
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Either way, it’s ultimately his prerogative and it’s reasonable to only participate in friendships and relationships that you want to be in. I wouldn’t say a woman is being unreasonable for not enjoying a man breaking off a friendship, that’s her prerogative as well, as long as she doesn’t call the man unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:39 AM
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Yes, I do. It’s called personal responsibility and risk assessment. It sucks, and the other person is wrong for tricking people, but that doesn’t mean you made a wise decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:33 AM
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No, no, no, don’t you understand? You need to only have sex with women this person on Reddit deems to be good enough in other ways. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:28 AM
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It is their fault if they get tricked though, they said yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:23 AM
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Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:19 AM
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It’s not what you wrote, it’s what you didn’t write.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:11 AM
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How can you tell which is the case in every instance? Perhaps the man isn’t completely sure if he wants to pursue more than a friendship and eventually it builds or waivers. I think what this whole dynamic reveals about most people is that they know right away whether or not they would date someone based on looks, which is kind of sad, to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:06 AM
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The way you wrote that makes it seem as though you rule out the possibility of men having a genuine lack of social support without rejecting the friendship of those who have rejected them, assuming that friendship was even offered to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:02 AM
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What if attraction grows and the guy tries to ignore it, and just continues trying to be her friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 04:46 AM
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The only requirement to be an adult is to be 18 or older. Anything else is shaming someone for not conforming to how you would prefer them to act.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 04:36 AM
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Is it safe to say that true friends need to not find you attractive as a potential romantic partner in order for the friendship dynamics not to be tainted?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 04:34 AM
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Why is your instinct to shame people for being losers instead of genuinely feeling bad that these men feel as though they don’t have other options? It just feels like it’s egregiously punching down to call people losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 04:29 AM
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Most people seek a partner who is better for them than their other options, is what I meant. That’s still effectively wanting someone better, if the man hoped to be better than others to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 04:27 AM
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To me, as long as someone has the prerogative to do something, it’s unreasonable to expect them not to exercise it and to criticize them if they exercise it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 04:20 AM
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Is that not his prerogative and therefore reasonable from his perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 04:18 AM
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I disagree. Men take that risk every time they go on a date. You have to assume there’s a chance she’s using you, because that’s the truth. Women have to assume that maybe men wouldn’t be so interested in them unless there was a chance to date them eventually. It’s only lying to ourselves if we think everyone always has the purest of intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 04:00 AM
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I was referring to myself as potentially coming across as HYPERcritical by analyzing the situation that way. If they didn’t feel entitled to the friendship post-rejection, why else would they criticize the man’s choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:56 AM
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I’m saying you can’t necessarily blame men who try to get to know you more without the pressure of dating in order to display their potential as a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:53 AM
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I’m sorry, but that’s a cop out. Most people, if they were completely honest, would admit that they feel they can “do better” when explaining why they chose not to settle with someone. It happens every time you swipe left.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:46 AM
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I get it, but it does happen the other way around sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:43 AM
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Perhaps toning down the “I want to marry my best friend” rhetoric will marginally help to prevent men from befriending women with the sole intent of eventually dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:38 AM
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I can understand the pain, but it’s not as though the man isn’t hurt too. He also lost a friend, even if it’s ultimately his choice, despite it hurting to be in the presence of someone who rejected him. I think people are quick to write the guy off as only ever being her friend for the opportunity to date her. That’s not necessarily the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:33 AM
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I would agree with you if you were introduced as friends first. If you only met because you were both considering each other as romantic prospects, then that kind of taints the relationship. It doesn’t say anything about the woman “not being good enough” to be a friend, it’s about knowing that you will likely forever be subordinate to her, like she is better than you and you can’t get with her no matter what. Not to mention, men aren’t going to stop being sexually attracted to her, so it’s like …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:29 AM
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Agreed, it’s like they expect men to pretend as though they’re dating to network just the same as they are dating for romance. “What’s the big deal? Two seconds ago you wanted to maybe eventually marry me, but suddenly you don’t even want to hang out? It’s almost like you’re driven by sexuality as a sexual being!”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:25 AM
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In the instances in which a woman feels the way I described, what are your thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:18 AM
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At the risk of sounding hypercritical, I have wondered if women who criticize men who make this decision have a sense of entitlement to having those men as friends. I’ve known women who admitted to keeping guys on the sideline, like an off the books boyfriend, who will listen to them and treat them well in the hopes of being a backup plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 03:16 AM
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Based on the plethora of complaints about men approaching women with good intentions, it seems like men would be doing them a favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:28 AM
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There doesn’t need to be a ranking in order for the dynamic to play out. Women still have a feel for whether or not they can attract a better man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:22 AM
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This is why I always say, labels are tools of oppressors. If they didn’t have the ability to lump men into one big “manosphere”, and actually had to debate us on the merits of our arguments, they would be exposed for the disingenuous frauds they are.
/r/MensRights06/06/22 11:04 PM
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I’m just making a conservative guess. Isn’t it crazy though, there are people who killed in cold blood that received a lesser punishment that other people did for non-killing crimes.
/r/MensRights06/06/22 09:11 AM
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Thank you for being kind enough to correct me and for being patient enough to explain it to me. Would you be so kind as to respond to the content of my comment? Or was the incorrect spelling all that you thought about it?
/r/MensRights06/06/22 09:08 AM
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How do you know that’s what I meant?
/r/MensRights06/06/22 09:01 AM
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I’m guessing she will get less than 10 years in prison.
/r/MensRights06/06/22 08:55 AM
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I’ve seen some people defend this by claiming to be dismantling masculine gender roles by openly mocking their importance, like, “See how silly this all is?”. What seems to elude them is the fact that using those types of insults are still giving those masculine gender roles power and reinforcing them.
/r/MensRights06/06/22 08:07 AM
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I wouldn’t say they are the only ones setting her back, but most people ignore their contributing role in how everything plays out.
/r/MensRights06/06/22 12:43 AM
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I did not mean to make it sound like all people who disagree with my statements are a monolith. I should have worded it more accurately. My ultimate goal is for everyone to understand each other, even if we disagree. I’ve found that if I’m not careful enough in how I approach a discussion and how I phrase things, that it ends up causing misunderstandings. That’s why I try to remain as objective as possible. When I reference people who argue in bad faith, I’m only referring to those people, not a…
/r/MensRights06/06/22 12:24 AM
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I agree with you, but at least it could be an option.
/r/MensRights05/06/22 08:18 PM
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Let’s just say Reddit never feels the need to ban unpopular subs that are destined to fade into obscurity on their own. Similarly, women and feminists rarely feel the need to criticize something they aren’t threatened by in some way.
/r/MensRights05/06/22 09:05 AM
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I’m an extremely open minded person who isn’t transphobic or anything, but this is acutely beyond the pale.
/r/MensRights05/06/22 09:04 AM
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How about the whole, she said so, now you lose your education, thing? Also, I feel bad for the Asian applicants who get rejected for not being extroverted enough. These kids are geniuses compared to most of their peers, but schools outside of like MIT refuse to subject their student body to anything other than curated “legacy” (read: crony/nepotist) students, athletes, and mediocre cool kids.
/r/MensRights05/06/22 08:37 AM
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You can tell, and it doesn’t need to be blatantly obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:39 AM
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Generally speaking, those characterizations are accurate. Some people get hung up on absolute terms, but don’t allow them to use examples of exceptions to dictate the overall picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:22 AM
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It’s not surprising to me. Why would men who are continually rejected by society feel like helping anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:17 AM
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Most people can’t even afford to cover a $500 emergency, let alone pay even half that to have sex one time.
/r/MensRights04/06/22 11:40 PM
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I’m curious, do you actually think it’s probable for all unwanted men (billions of people) to live a life of rejection, without losing their cool eventually? They absolutely shouldn’t lose their cool, but do you actually think all of them won’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:45 PM
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Which is 80% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:12 PM
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How some people oppose mate guarding is a perfect example of throwing the baby out with the bath water. Most people are unwilling to wade through the nuance as you did, and they will oppose all mate guarding just because there are some tactics that cross the line into being inappropriate. Most people feel the instinct to prefer our partner not to be tempted, even if we suppress our reactions to it. Like most everything else in the dating world, we want to pretend as though we’re fully secure to …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 08:59 PM
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I’m opposed to all social media posts taken at work. I don’t care if you’re on a break, it’s unprofessional. I don’t like knowing that even nurses and doctors are preoccupied with filming cute dances and other trendy nonsense on social media while they’re at work. Side note: imagine being able to get money from people for anonymous stuff like this…easy mode anyone? (Yes, men can do it, but the market is a drop in the bucket compared to the one for women, and the fact that men are their customers…
/r/MensRights04/06/22 08:33 PM
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Lol wow that’s pathetic.
/r/MensRights04/06/22 06:52 PM
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It makes a difference though. If they can write you off even more quickly, that still stifles the message. Being as objective as possible forces them to engage with the points being made, if they hope to come across as arguing in good faith.
/r/MensRights04/06/22 03:00 PM
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Be thankful that your parents were in the crazy group of people who actually wanted to have a romantic relationship with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 02:04 PM
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I won’t judge or criticize any of you that choose not to wear a bra, or a shirt for that matter. Equality is where it’s at! It’s hot out FFS!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:11 PM
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It would be best not to use terms that originate from the oppression of women, even though it would be fair. All it does is give women an easy out (however illogical) to paint us as merely being retributive. How about seeing men in a utilitarian way? It’s not enough for a man to be a good person who cares about you, he needs to do things for you and be a resource. I know it’s not as sexy of a term, but it’s accurate and less likely to be dismissed.
/r/MensRights04/06/22 11:06 AM
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I’m not about to be made to feel wrong for needing a partner to fully experience life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 10:59 AM
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You’re mischaracterizing the reasons why men want relationships. It’s an innate human desire for the overwhelming majority of people, not some trendy car.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 09:48 AM
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Between this and “Men”, it should be blatantly obvious at this point what’s going on, if you didn’t know already. I can’t imagine making films or shows entitled “Women” and “Girls” that are so transparently pushing anti-female propaganda. Also, don’t let anyone tell you that we’re “reading too deeply into it”, because they know most people will ever see these shows or movies, and that’s why the ads are so important, because that’s the only message most people will see.
/r/MensRights04/06/22 09:45 AM
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It will only be framed in terms of how it hurts women and the economy. “We generally like men who earn more money than us no matter what. Where are they?” “There’s a shortage of well educated men to work these jobs that women don’t want.”
/r/MensRights04/06/22 08:27 AM
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Pirates of the Caribbean: Trigger Warning
/r/MensRights04/06/22 07:18 AM
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Damn…my bad guys. What is gender and what are names, anyway?
/r/MensRights04/06/22 06:40 AM
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I wonder why some boys learn to hate women and girls.
/r/MensRights04/06/22 06:33 AM
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People are polite, but that doesn’t mean they want you to be part of their social group or to date you, which is kind of the point of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 06:25 AM
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If the number one rebuttal to incels is to get a prostitute, yeah, it should be legal if we hope for that solution to quell outrage. It’s still expensive given couples can do it for free several times every day if they so choose. Even without paying for a prostitute, acquiring sex or soothing yourself in other ways still always costs money.
/r/MensRights04/06/22 06:11 AM
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The true death of the MeToo movement was when everyone ignored Tara Reade’s accusations against Joe Biden. Also, I’m sorry, but unless someone literally tried to kill you, you’re just a victim, not a survivor.
/r/MensRights03/06/22 11:04 PM
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There’s a difference between thinking every woman is a gold digger and understanding that, all else being equal, you’re going to get more positive attention and loyalty from women if you have more money. Most women prefer a man who is wealthier than her, most divorces are initiated by women, and divorce rates skyrocket when men lose their jobs. None of this is to say those women are wrong for feeling and behaving this way, it’s just reality. Money doesn’t need to be the only factor, or even the …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 08:18 PM
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Random useless fact, people with a greater ring finger length to index finger length ratio were exposed to more testosterone in utero.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 06:08 AM
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I can’t help but feel like we’re on the back 9 of the “divide ordinary people among the gender strife issues” course of the division agenda. It started with #MeToo and we’re heading back down the opposite side now.
/r/MensRights03/06/22 05:31 AM
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Men don’t have to shut up just because women get harmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 04:48 AM
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Well at least we can’t say women are shallow, they merely want it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 04:46 AM
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It’s probably related to hormones, even while in utero. It’s not a coincidence that the stereotypes (regardless of the fact that not all people within a group are the same) for lesbian women is butch, and for gay men is effeminate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 11:38 PM
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Because you never acknowledge that there are people out there doing their best and it’s not enough. Somehow that hurts your sense of all being well in the world for those who try. It’s the same reason why rich people are more likely to believe in meritocracy, because it’s uncomfortable to know that people just like them in terms of effort don’t succeed. And the inverse that they may have benefited from things they didn’t control.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 11:28 PM
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Smiles aren’t what you think they are. Also, not everyone has an appealing smile.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 11:21 PM
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Let’s stop throwing men in jail for non violent offenses and actually support struggling families financially so the strife doesn’t lead to divorce or abandonment.
/r/MensRights02/06/22 10:27 PM
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You said, “well the solution is to fix your self esteem issues and you’ll be pleasant to be around.” And “It’s only a vicious circle if you don’t work on your issues.” One can fix their self-esteem issues and work on themselves, even be the best version of themselves, and you won’t necessarily be found to be pleasant around or avoid the vicious cycle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:26 PM
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It’s not that men WANT a lesser woman, it’s that they know better women are more likely to reject or leave them, so they want security. Women aren’t as dependent on their male partners for emotional support/friendship, so they are more likely to only want a man if he improves her life somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:16 PM
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If you look at the most gender equal countries, women and men are actually more strongly gravitating toward their traditional careers, consciously or otherwise, to help play up their masculinity or femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 10:15 PM
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You could actually put yourself in their shoes…it’s not easy being the initiator.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:47 PM
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Ok, but you seem to be presuming that it’s impossible for a man who’s trying and is the best version of himself to be rejected socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 09:44 PM
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What I don’t understand is, if they truly feel justified in their censorship, why not be more transparent? Like, show a list of what you can’t say…stop wasting everyone’s time.
/r/MensRights02/06/22 01:22 AM
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Goes without saying on that sub, I lol’d when I read that.
/r/MensRights02/06/22 12:19 AM
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This one is an…interesting read: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/v2pxxn/responding_to_the_jdah_trial_in_a_feminist_way/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/MensRights02/06/22 12:08 AM
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Lol ikr?
/r/MensRights01/06/22 10:08 PM
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I’ve read so many articles related to this case that are blatantly being written begrudgingly, seeking to invalidate, question, or belittle the ruling at every opportunity. Don’t believe all women or men; make sure they are treated fairly under the law. Sorry if some shit happened when nobody was around, maybe choose wisely.
/r/MensRights01/06/22 10:07 PM
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Whatever the next thing is, make sure it’s not the wealthy elite sex with teenagers private island crowd with ties to Epstein and Maxwell. We all remember the wall-to-wall, in-depth coverage that trial received… /s
/r/MensRights01/06/22 09:26 PM
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Lol right? Have you ever read the pages long list of rules those subs have? I have to give them credit, they are very creative and have thought long and hard about excuses to ban people and delete posts. I’ve told their mods that it would probably be more efficient for everyone if they just listed what you CAN say on there lol.
/r/MensRights01/06/22 07:27 PM
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This dynamic only serves to further alienate disenfranchised young men. They don’t like incels because they raise uncomfortable issues, like, do we really expect people to live loveless lives and/or settle for people they aren’t attracted to? So now these literal children need to hide their frustration even more? That’s so stupid.
/r/MensRights01/06/22 03:10 PM
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It stems from their view of the greater picture. To them, it matters more how this will influence victims of DV going forward, instead of just focusing on the case at hand.
/r/MensRights01/06/22 03:06 PM
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If these women had the same testosterone and social norms put on them, they would most certainly kill more than men.
/r/MensRights01/06/22 02:31 PM
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Gee, I wonder why they could possibly be angry? Lol
/r/MensRights01/06/22 02:28 PM
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I want to put these books next to each other in the store.
/r/MensRights01/06/22 02:22 PM
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I’m more or less on her side most of the time, but unfortunately, she leans very heavily on her identity as a woman sometimes, to the exclusion of male perspectives.
/r/MensRights01/06/22 02:18 PM
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Another factor: rejection of relatively physically unattractive and socially ostracized young men, who now know via social media just how disadvantaged they are.
/r/MensRights01/06/22 02:13 PM
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It’s especially egregious considering feminists’ emphasis against victim blaming women. The hypocrisy is palpable.
/r/MensRights01/06/22 02:09 PM
1

What world are we living in?
/r/MensRights01/06/22 02:08 PM
1

Yeah, but…breasts anyone? They’re connected to women…
/r/MensRights01/06/22 02:05 PM
2

The bastardizing of the gender earnings gap is the perfect example of what happens when we prioritize social dogma over statistical analysis and media literacy in our educational system.
/r/MensRights01/06/22 02:04 PM
3

This is the most balanced article I’ve read about incels. It always struck me as unjust to denounce those who struggle with their mental health, regardless of their behavior. It’s like bullies…as soon as I learned that it likely stems from their own mental health issues, I stopped lusting for their demise and wanted to help them.
/r/MensRights01/06/22 02:01 PM
1

Good luck fighting the good fight, just remember to always be a woman so people agree with you, lol.
/r/MensRights01/06/22 01:48 PM
2

Some people are seemingly incapable of comprehending what proper due process looks like.
/r/MensRights01/06/22 01:47 PM
2

That song always rubbed me the wrong way. Feminists’ weakest attribute is their ability to take the high ground and live by their principles.
/r/MensRights01/06/22 01:43 PM
-5

Who still has kids? Do they not want to stay coupled/married or something?
/r/MensRights24/05/22 11:45 PM
1

It’s real, but it’s not a legitimate reason to shy away from justice.
/r/MensRights24/05/22 08:24 PM
9

That’s Reddit’s problem. If your platform takes in enough ad revenue to warrant going public, pay some fucking people.
/r/MensRights24/05/22 08:04 PM
25

Agreed.
/r/MensRights24/05/22 07:28 PM
8

I agree, if we’re pretending to have principles against objectification, it needs to go both ways.
/r/MensRights24/05/22 07:28 PM
9

Or the mods could like, moderate.
/r/MensRights24/05/22 07:11 PM
9

That’s one step shy of the ole reliable “punishing false accusers is wrong because it frightens real victims”. Even when you win, they move the goal post.
/r/MensRights24/05/22 05:39 PM
14

You and I both know that this sub is more accessible to those who disagree with the majority than women’s subs.
/r/MensRights24/05/22 08:19 AM
13

Actually, it does.
/r/MensRights24/05/22 07:42 AM
14

Feminists aren’t banned from here.
/r/MensRights24/05/22 07:37 AM
3

Right, notice how it’s not thousands.
/r/MensRights24/05/22 05:07 AM
1

Don’t let the vocal minority paint a bad picture of a group and ruin it for everyone.
/r/MensRights24/05/22 04:58 AM
2

I would advise you to think of every other group of people you’ve interacted with, and whether or not, in retrospect, judging them based on their worst members would have been an accurate assessment of the group as a whole.
/r/MensRights24/05/22 04:54 AM
7

While there are many negative externalities of the movement, it was a net positive for victims of sexual harassment and rape.
/r/MensRights24/05/22 01:23 AM
5

OMG the balls to name it that…funny though.
/r/MensRights23/05/22 11:49 PM
2

To be concise, I would say modern men are stuck between what they are incentivized to do and what they are TOLD they are incentivized to do. You may very well only get laid because of your otherwise toxic characteristics, despite the general wokeness of our culture.
/r/MensRights23/05/22 11:03 PM
12

That’s what they want, an echo chamber…
/r/MensRights23/05/22 10:19 PM
3

I didn’t watch any of the excessive coverage of this case, what’s the reference?
/r/MensRights23/05/22 10:12 PM
7

The part where he potentially saved her life…?
/r/MensRights23/05/22 12:20 AM
15

Considering that the poster is a man creepily smiling while cast in shadows, and the title is “Men”, they could have fooled, well, everyone.
/r/MensRights23/05/22 12:06 AM
3

How about if you want to leave the partner you chose to let cum inside you, and you want the kids, don’t leave unless you have the money.
/r/MensRights22/05/22 09:30 PM
21

Don’t forget to cut off the circulation in your arms while lifting to get that extra bulge and veins, like the superheros in movies!
/r/MensRights22/05/22 07:39 PM
2

That’s why I always laugh at these women’s ads, because I know how ridiculous it would be if you had obese men in them.
/r/MensRights22/05/22 07:39 PM
2

I love how she made sure to pin it on drugs, first and foremost. I can tell you from the picture that she had more options for partners outside of the relationship than he did…that’s a risk factor for infidelity.
/r/MensRights22/05/22 07:04 PM
6

Let me be the extremist here and say that the appropriate response to “hate speech” is vocal disagreement, not suppression and censorship.
/r/MensRights21/05/22 09:21 PM
7

It shouldn’t even matter. Even if men were the only people on Earth who contributed to wars starting, most women still think innocent men should die BECAUSE they are men.
/r/MensRights21/05/22 07:51 PM
1

Listen, if you’re afraid of men, don’t drive Uber.
/r/MensRights21/05/22 04:26 PM
13

Don’t be an Uber driver if you can’t accept working with the public.
/r/MensRights21/05/22 05:57 AM
227

Female and non-binary Uber drivers in Australia are now allowed to reject passengers based on their gender, specifically if they are male.
/r/MensRights20/05/22 09:01 PM
37

“WhAt DiD hE dO?”
/r/MensRights20/05/22 04:01 AM
37

Just a little extra, you know, HEALTH INSURANCE!!!
/r/MensRights19/05/22 05:14 AM
1

Your response to C. assumes that you need to be rude to reject someone in person. Read what I said again. My point is it’s unnecessary and hurtful to list requirements for immutable characteristics, when refraining from doing so still allows you to exercise your preferences without undue extra effort. What exactly are you gaining by listing a height requirement? Not needing to click on a profile of a suitor, before ignoring them upon seeing their height? Even if you listed a height requirement, …
/r/MensRights19/05/22 01:47 AM
1

You’re ignoring that, A. most dating is online, and includes heights in the profile, B. women can just ignore men on apps C. If you are meeting a blind date or a date of unknown height (risky, I know), despite having a strong height preference, there are a million reasons to reject someone that would save you from awkwardly telling them they needed to be taller. I’m sorry, but “no fat chicks” was literally a meme before memes because it’s deemed to be shallow and rude. I highly doubt that women …
/r/MensRights19/05/22 12:01 AM
1

My point is that, while your example of punting and such is certainly rude, the core message is the same: I have no interest in you because of your immutable characteristics. Now, as I mentioned before, of course I’m not saying people can’t act on their preferences, and people will inevitably see, “Hmmm it seems like damn near every man is taller than their woman despite a range of heights.” That’s unavoidable, but there’s no reason to preemptively put up a list of standards. It’s up to the wome…
/r/MensRights18/05/22 10:23 PM
1

My point is that, while your example of punting and such is certainly rude, the core message is the same: I have no interest in you because of your immutable characteristics. Now, as I mentioned before, of course I’m not saying people can’t act on their preferences, and people will inevitably see, “Hmmm it seems like damn near every man is taller than their woman’s despite a range of heights.” That’s unavoidable, but there’s no reason to preemptively put up a list of standards. It’s up to the wo…
/r/MensRights18/05/22 10:23 PM
15

Just be there to validate his valid concerns and be a female voice for men when women or otherwise unconcerned people downplay or mock how issues affect men.
/r/MensRights18/05/22 10:04 PM
2

Toxic masculinity, even if you buy into it, is yet another deliberately vague term meant to cause false presumptions about its meaning, which further bolsters the case of its proponents. They know that by choosing that term, many people will presume that it means all indications and manifestations of masculinity are toxic. It’s like Black Lives Matter (no shit). They could have simply added “Too” and literally half of the opposition’s talking points would not have existed, and proponents could h…
/r/MensRights18/05/22 07:56 PM
9

I could care more, but it’s still wrong.
/r/MensRights18/05/22 06:35 PM
15

I’ve never heard that term before. I’d argue that most abusive relationships are mutual, seeing as how women usually initiate it (yes physically).
/r/MensRights18/05/22 06:30 PM
36

The funny thing is, even though the publicity around this supports the father (obviously), if a man called in a report of a mother doing the same thing, that person would have gotten much more flack.
/r/MensRights18/05/22 06:18 PM
22

I can’t imagine giving up on everything that isn’t catered to me, even if I sincerely wanted to pursue it. The icing on the cake is women being roundly celebrated for being strong and independent despite chronic complaints that they aren’t further advantaged, lol. One of my female coworkers told me that she changed majors after her first semester in college because she had an epiphany. Of course, everyone who didn’t know her well assumed that it was because of the “bro culture” associated with t…
/r/MensRights18/05/22 04:34 PM
7

I love the nuance, so rare these days.
/r/MensRights18/05/22 02:09 AM
6

Preach. I think we should all agree to spend enough money to keep the economy going and forgo the charade.
/r/MensRights17/05/22 08:08 PM
5

Wow, I didn’t realize such a small percentage of men are actually men, since committing a mass shooting is a prerequisite.
/r/MensRights17/05/22 01:12 PM
2

We should not use rape because most definitions require penetration. Say “sexual assault” instead to hone in on the double standard.
/r/MensRights17/05/22 07:26 AM
1

Let’s review the footage and audio.
/r/MensRights17/05/22 07:22 AM
45

Agreed. People also seem to take great liberties with their right to “preferences”. You have the right to have them, but expressing them in any way other than who you choose to interact with or date has the potential to be tantamount to shaming. “I LOOOVE tall men.” “I prefer tall men who make me feel safe.” “I prefer to be shorter than my man, even in heels.” That’s still shaming… Like, what are shorter men supposed to think when they hear that? “Oh, luckily for me, I never wanted to get laid a…
/r/MensRights16/05/22 10:50 PM
39

It sounds like she needs to find a company that she agrees with, because that’s her issue.
/r/MensRights16/05/22 04:51 PM
3

You’re precisely the type of man that most women, at least subconsciously, don’t care about. They would rather there be tough, inflexible protections for the women who have legit grievances, even if it means men like you get screwed over.
/r/MensRights16/05/22 02:29 AM
1

It doesn’t matter anymore. They will blame us for the flop.
/r/MensRights16/05/22 12:34 AM
33

There’s an interesting blind spot most advocates for making movies more woke (for lack of a better term) have. On one hand, they will mock those who want animated characters to remain their original race and gender by saying things like, “They aren’t even real people! It’s a cartoon! It’s a kid’s movie!” Etc. Yet, they fail to realize that, unless the movie is a documentary or based on a true story, the live action characters are just as fake as those cartoon characters, only portrayed by real p…
/r/MensRights14/05/22 08:17 PM
9

They make sure to keep the acceptable range of debate narrow, but allow vigorous debate within that range. Just a little tid bit from my man Noam Chomsky’s Manufacturing Consent.
/r/MensRights14/05/22 04:36 PM
14

It is a men’s rights issue, because as you mentioned, we generally aren’t granted the same latitude to speak freely on platforms that are the new town square. When we are allowed to say what some people don’t want to hear, we’re summarily portrayed negatively, which would be fine, but it’s not the same for women.
/r/MensRights14/05/22 04:18 PM
1

I’m just referring to the men who change over time, in a negative way. I should have clarified that they, at the point of coming back with a vengeance, are no longer men with good intentions. To be clear, I’m not justifying such actions. Also, I’m not saying a singular film changes people like Jekyl and Hyde. I’m saying it’s one more message from society that makes them correctly understand that they, by default, aren’t wanted as women are, and are mistrusted. Even though it’s understandable for…
/r/MensRights14/05/22 01:59 AM
21

It’s really that bad, unfortunately. Many people think that their reasoning doesn’t need to be sound due to the fact that women carry the pregnancy and give birth. They fail to realize that the reasoning of “If you don’t want a kid, don’t have sex” can’t only apply to men. Then there are the people who think their anti-abortion stance means the same should apply to the men they have sex with. Again, they fail to realize that an option you oppose (abortion), is still an option. That shouldn’t pre…
/r/MensRights13/05/22 10:50 PM
5

I mean, everyone has a name…
/r/MensRights13/05/22 10:42 PM
4

Lol too woke to think. It’s probably from the fume inhalation during those extra long bus rides.
/r/MensRights13/05/22 10:19 AM
19

Lol imagine that, human beings, with penises mind you, needing their lived experiences and mental health not to be taboo subjects.
/r/MensRights13/05/22 07:07 AM
67

It’s amazing how prejudiced everyone is. On a completely different note, have you seen the movie “Men” where men are the root of all evil for the female protagonist? Or “The Invisible Man” (2020)?
/r/MensRights13/05/22 06:48 AM
10

Our society is wholly unprepared to analyze statistics, let alone comprehend them. Let’s just watch people grooving in the same outfits for 10 seconds at a time until our attention spans disappear…
/r/MensRights13/05/22 05:40 AM
22

Women don’t realize that the more content like this is propagated, and the more prejudice against men there is, the less safe women are. Men with good intentions will be driven away from society before coming back with a vengeance. It’s not a favorable outcome, but you can’t expect an unlucky subset of human beings to accept rejection from their only way to fulfill their lives, en masse, without consequences.
/r/MensRights13/05/22 05:20 AM
77

I’m just tired of people simultaneously treating 20 something women as children who shouldn’t be pursued sexually AND empowered women bosses who can’t be stopped. They know what they’re getting into when they date and marry a dude who is decades older, wealthier, and more famous than them. That’s not to excuse actual violence, but you see these women sympathized with even when there isn’t violence involved. So let me get this straight, women simultaneously get to vocally express and enforce weal…
/r/MensRights12/05/22 05:13 PM
-19

Be sure to specify that you’re not referring to situations when a woman clearly doesn’t want anyone to speak to them (wearing headphones, reading, on a phone or video call, intentionally situated far away from everyone - at a park for example, breathing a sigh of relief just to sit while commuting on public transit, etc). Also, specify that you’re not being crude or otherwise impolite. If you leave room for people to doubt your ability to feel out the situation when you ask these questions, peop…
/r/MensRights11/05/22 11:53 PM
17

Make sure they are older than 60 if they’re a woman.
/r/MensRights06/05/22 12:56 AM
34

While I understand your sentiment, would it not be a better result for women to retain their abortion rights while adding the ability for men not to be fiscally responsible for an unwanted pregnancy and resulting child?
/r/MensRights04/05/22 01:31 AM
8

That’s such a bad idea. It defeats most of the point of an abortion by forcing you to adopt after… If women can choose to have an abortion, men should be able to choose not to provide for a child they would have chosen to abort. Sorry, women will need to carefully consider who they allow to ejaculate inside them…often times good lays aren’t good parental material.
/r/MensRights28/04/22 02:51 PM
24

I have a suspicion they wouldn’t use quotations around the word “violence” if it were Amber testifying about Johnny.
/r/MensRights20/04/22 07:30 PM
1

Technically, a feminist.
/r/MensRights18/04/22 12:28 AM
8

People use labels as a crutch. They haven’t developed the linguistic muscles required to actually express themselves with full sentences.
/r/MensRights18/04/22 12:26 AM
3

It’s supposedly a good thing, because they aren’t shallow…lol, just very picky.
/r/MensRights17/04/22 04:53 PM
24

Yeah, men are often told to lower their standards. Women are told it’s acceptable to have a height and endowment standard.
/r/MensRights17/04/22 02:26 PM
57

Men can’t be genuine refugees?
/r/MensRights15/04/22 09:23 PM
31

Did you mean to say, “Five-year-old child”? We only acknowledge the gender of victims when it’s female. /s
/r/MensRights11/04/22 09:01 PM
3

That might be a problem when the alternative is blanket censorship.
/r/MensRights11/04/22 10:38 AM
1

Great…we can’t skate along the edge of the ice because Reddit doesn’t have/pay enough mods.
/r/MensRights11/04/22 09:43 AM
6

What tame, but unpopular posts have been deleted?
/r/MensRights11/04/22 04:50 AM
11

Mothers achieving less success in their careers is not necessarily discriminatory, but many employers discriminate against mothers, if that makes sense.
/r/MensRights10/04/22 08:02 PM
20

They want to have kids and they can’t necessarily work throughout their pregnancy and recovery in the same capacity as they could prior to becoming pregnant. This negatively affects their professional growth. How unjustified one thinks this is depends in part on their beliefs surrounding parenthood. I personally don’t think anyone has the right to have children without any negative consequences. Some people choose not to have children. It is, despite historical and personal preferences, a choice…
/r/MensRights10/04/22 07:34 PM
3

This is sure to improve the mental health of incels and therefore the health of our society…
/r/MensRights08/04/22 10:18 PM
12

I’m sure it won’t repair all of the damage done to the falsely accused.
/r/MensRights06/04/22 01:22 AM
5

“But I know this one woman who doesn’t expect men to be like that, so you’re wrong.” /s
/r/MensRights05/04/22 03:56 AM
3

My best advice is to avoid bringing up issues that primarily affect men as a response to discussion of issues that primarily affect women. This will ensure that your points aren’t viewed as being meant to detract from what women experience. Also, avoid comparisons of severity between genders. For example, instead of, “Men are x times more likely than women to x” just say, “Men x at a rate of x per thousand people.” Although you may view this as a weaker way of making a point, it’s more important…
/r/MensRights05/04/22 03:50 AM
2

I agree with you
/r/MensRights04/04/22 08:25 PM
1

It’s because many incels are sexist, misogynistic, and some are pro-violence. Yes, that’s horrible, but it speaks volumes of society’s unwillingness to discuss the legitimate concerns and grievances incels have when they are hellbent on making them seem like a terrorist organization.
/r/MensRights04/04/22 07:31 PM
10

Who said anything about entitlement? It’s just airing grievances…”it sucks for me in this way, etc.” That doesn’t necessitate comparisons between aggrieved people.
/r/MensRights04/04/22 07:05 PM
1

It is what it is, I mean, you’re not going to convince someone to accept a different dating dynamic than they are naturally drawn to.
/r/MensRights04/04/22 06:50 PM
7

The disparity is more apparent in men, especially men younger than age 30, when some aren’t hot enough for the women who only want fun, and they aren’t wealthy enough for the women who want security.
/r/MensRights04/04/22 06:42 PM
1

I could handle them making that argument, if it were justified, but what gets me the most is how they don’t even acknowledge it…it goes without saying, “So they make more here…moving on…”
/r/MensRights04/04/22 06:11 PM
19

We need to start qualifying which self-described incels we’re referring to. Incels are not all inherently sexist, misogynistic, pro-violence, etc. That’s just how they are all portrayed because that’s what gets the most attention and it’s easier to dismiss anything they discuss when they are portrayed that way. Much has been made of the term “gaslighting” and my sense from a lot of incel discussion I’ve seen is that they are tired of being made to feel like the odds aren’t stacked against them. …
/r/MensRights04/04/22 05:57 PM
0

It’s stupid though…don’t complain about the risks women face if you dive in head first…
/r/MensRights03/04/22 09:29 PM
7

From what I’ve gathered, they don’t want to take birth control, and they don’t trust the men they are sleeping with to take birth control properly. They are afraid of asserting themselves and effectively negating their man’s incentive to take birth control. They also love to shame men who don’t perform as well in a skin tight balloon…like thank god you don’t need to do anything other than open your legs…
/r/MensRights03/04/22 06:01 PM
7

I don’t understand the problem…are men who currently have sex with women on birth control not expected to trust her adherence to the daily dose? What is it about male birth control that’s fundamentally different in terms of how it affects your partner?
/r/MensRights03/04/22 04:46 PM
2

“It’s just the energy bro, I didn’t say small dicks are bad…” lol
/r/MensRights02/04/22 02:15 AM
8

PPD
/r/MensRights01/04/22 08:11 PM
9

This isn’t about me, personally. I know it’s passé, but I care about all injustices.
/r/MensRights01/04/22 07:37 PM
10

This is a legitimate, gendered issue that affects the mental health and social status of many men. You don’t call your members of congress about these types of issues, because the movement is entirely social.
/r/MensRights01/04/22 07:13 PM
2

People don’t understand logic.
/r/MensRights01/04/22 07:03 PM
5

The “real men” this and “boys” that gets very old…how often do you hear people directly call a woman’s femininity and adulthood into question? You’re a man if you identify as such and you’re an adult if you’re at least 18 years old.
/r/MensRights01/04/22 04:52 PM
5

It’s especially insidious because women go around thinking nobody is really offended, because if they did speak up against the body shaming, they would effectively have painted a target on their back. The stigma of acknowledging that they belong to the group who is being shamed prevents them from standing up for themselves. At least fat women get all the backup support in the world when they are shamed.
/r/MensRights01/04/22 04:48 PM
30

Men who express preferences for women without cellulite and varicose veins are not nearly as well received as women who express their height preferences.
/r/MensRights01/04/22 08:05 AM
85

Somehow women find a way to tolerate Tom Cruise. I’m sure it’s 100% his personality and they wouldn’t be any more attracted to him if he were taller…
/r/MensRights01/04/22 06:29 AM
61

It’s funny to me because they could not have chosen a more immutable trait. Men have no more control over their height than anyone does over their genetics. Yet, they will look you in the eye and effectively enforce a “you must be this tall to ride the rollercoaster” measurement. Here’s the thing, I acknowledge that it’s their prerogative to have standards, but the second you complain about men’s standards, especially when they are objectively more probable to be met, you don’t have a leg to sta…
/r/MensRights01/04/22 06:16 AM
14

Here’s the thing, I’ve never been one to call sour grapes on something I don’t/can’t have. For example, I literally wouldn’t care if a woman has unreasonable or even cruel standards, if I met those standards. I’m not about to reject someone because of their standards that only root out other men. Why would I suddenly care just because I don’t qualify? Am I really to convince myself that I wouldn’t enjoy a relationship or sex with someone just because they have standards that I don’t meet? I’m we…
/r/MensRights01/04/22 06:11 AM
92

That’s similar to how they aren’t gold diggers, they just looove ambitious men…when they are likely to succeed, of course. As though they would have an issue with a billionaire who loves to go on vacation or chill, whatever they want. No, no, no, they would much rather date the ambitious construction worker who is never home and always tired. /s Keep in mind, any woman who stands to get a significant inheritance or has a man in a similar position, doesn’t need to worry so much about finding a we…
/r/MensRights01/04/22 04:09 AM
27

Exactly, not that the preference is something to jump for joy about, but at least own up to it, don’t gaslight those concerned about it, and don’t shame people who don’t meet the standard or are insecure about it. Some people seem to think body shaming is only when you explicitly shame someone, instead of focusing on the overall content of the message. You can praise tall men, thereby shaming shorter men. You can conspicuously bring up the subject of height preferences, or even one’s height in g…
/r/MensRights01/04/22 04:02 AM
9

My favorite aspect of how those mods function is when you finally phrase your post perfectly after like five failed attempts to follow all of their rules, only for the mod to delete half of the responses for equally petty rule violations. I remember trying to ask a question, in WomensAdvice or something, and they were like, “This sub is for seeking advice, not how someone else would have handled your situation, etc.” like, ok…I’m pretty sure that’s advice…
/r/MensRights24/03/22 06:45 PM
4

Got to love that. Also, if you use certain words, like “justify” or something rather basic, they’ll be like, “Bro, justify? It’s not that serious…”
/r/MensRights24/03/22 06:32 PM
65

I agree, I’m tired of people using their underprivileged status as a currency for winning arguments, or more accurately, side stepping them, by just using catchphrases. “Oh, you had an awesome point, but you made the mistake of speaking slightly more slowly or using simple terms, well, now you’re wrong, because you’re a man and you mansplained.”
/r/MensRights23/03/22 10:56 PM
1

I know they don’t need more of an excuse, but that’s something I would do if that were my goal.
/r/MensRights23/03/22 09:32 PM
3

I’m fine with the expectation that men will pay for at least the first date. However, it should be acknowledged that this enables women, who are already in the driver’s seat of green lighting sex and a relationship, the ability to have endless first dates, while men who aren’t wealthy are limited in their ability to see what’s out there.
/r/MensRights23/03/22 08:36 AM
1

BBAF
/r/MensRights23/03/22 07:08 AM
2

I wish.
/r/MensRights23/03/22 04:02 AM
-1

One of the primary reasons the boss/employee relationship is condemned is because the employee will feel strong incentive to consent because their way of living (via a salary) is possibly in jeopardy. If a wealthy man can make you financially secure for life, how is that not a similarly imbalanced enough power dynamic to be condemned as well? The woman’s employment and potential for a promotion or raise is only a proxy for her financial circumstance, as far as incentives are concerned in this co…
/r/MensRights21/03/22 10:54 PM
6

I’ve heard it’s much more difficult to grow to over 6’0” after your growth spurt than it is to, I don’t know, stop eating refined carbs and drinking too much alcohol to lose weight. I’ve also heard it’s easier to lose fat than it is to work out enough to look like a Marvel character. Any truth to this?
/r/MensRights21/03/22 10:44 PM
2

That’s another complicating factor in spreading this information. Most people presume that we’re making a value judgement, like everyone should need to be monogamous. I simply want people to make informed decisions. Cheaters don’t like that, so they will do everything they can to shame us into not caring about past promiscuity. I’d be lying if I said it’s not disappointing to be cheated on or to face an increased probability of being cheated on, but that sentiment shouldn’t be interpreted as adv…
/r/MensRights21/03/22 01:54 PM
1

I’d be willing to bet that most of the exceptions to the trends in the data are women who happened to end up with a partner who is one of the most pleasant to be around and have sex with, and/or one of the wealthiest men they’ve had a relationship with.
/r/MensRights21/03/22 01:23 PM
5

I agree. This is the type of post that the people who disagree and push for references shy away from, or try to discredit by downplaying the importance of the data. You kind of buried them though.
/r/MensRights21/03/22 12:57 PM
17

It’s intuitively apparent to me that if you’ve tried most every type of cuisine, you’d have more difficulty sticking with just one for the rest of your life.
/r/MensRights21/03/22 11:48 AM
1

I’m not saying it’s inherently my problem. I want the people around me not to be creeped out, if there’s anything I can do to help that.
/r/MensRights18/03/22 10:57 PM
2

Is it over analyzing though? This woman very well could have experienced harassment or trauma in the past that causes her to be vigilant around men. She may even merely be familiar with other women experiencing such situations, causing her to act similarly. She could have been checking whether or not I was leering at her or recording her. She could have intentionally moved out of my way to avoid that possibility. She could have felt uncomfortable if I followed her all the way through to the chec…
/r/MensRights18/03/22 10:12 PM
1

To be clear, I know it’s entirely possible that she wasn’t thinking about me at all, but the point is, you can never be certain of that. The same exact scenario could have played out with a different woman, who would have be worried about me.
/r/MensRights18/03/22 09:30 PM
1

I’m not saying it’s a negative thing. It just is…follow your evolutionary proclivities until your heart’s content, no shame. My overall point isn’t to say women shouldn’t do this or benefit from this, only that it should be a more commonly acknowledged dynamic that men are rarely able to fall back on themselves.
/r/MensRights17/03/22 10:17 PM
1

Even if women don’t actively think about it, and even though not all women are attractive enough to most men to feasibly make a living from such methods, the point is, all else being equal, it’s more of an option for women than men.
/r/MensRights17/03/22 10:15 PM
1

The point is that it’s an OPTION. You don’t have to jump off the building into the safety net, but it’s nice to know it’s there.
/r/MensRights17/03/22 03:44 PM
1

I acknowledged that earlier.
/r/MensRights17/03/22 01:11 AM
2

So he couldn’t just leave and give her the option to take over the lease? He MUST pay her rent?
/r/MensRights16/03/22 11:52 PM
1

He could just move…he’s not obligated to stay through the lease or bring her with him. He may just owe his landlord more. Also, don’t let this person live with you guys.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 11:42 PM
1

Duly noted. I change my previous comment. It would have been his prerogative to give her 30 days notice of eviction if she didn’t sleep with him, so he’s merely giving her an opportunity to appease him and keep her place to live.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 11:12 PM
2

You can only be evicted if you’re on the lease and the landlord kicks you out. Otherwise, you’re just sleeping there and you’re no longer in the good graces of the person on the lease.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 10:56 PM
3

That won’t change in a society where women control access to sex and men have 10x more testosterone after centuries of evolution to seek sex.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 03:45 PM
12

That should not be a crime. She can rake him over the coals, but that’s his prerogative. Think of it this way: If she refused to have sex with him, they went to bed, and the next day he changed the locks, that would be fine. So why not give her the opportunity to stay by giving him what he wants?
/r/MensRights16/03/22 07:44 AM
0

It’s prejudiced.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 07:23 AM
36

EXACTLY. How about we stick with due process and let actual law enforcement and the judicial system (however flawed) work it out, instead of school administrators.
/r/MensRights16/03/22 03:46 AM
16

Women are not only more looked after by society, but if they fail miserably in their careers, they can always marry a wealthy man. They may need to date down in terms of attractiveness, but it’s a safety net that simply isn’t as available for men. Women can also work safely from home without skill. OnlyFans (don’t even need to show face), phone sex, selling jarred farts (literally) or panties, etc. It’s just not the same for men, even if the same options technically exist for them, albeit to an …
/r/MensRights16/03/22 12:02 AM
1

How about this for a dynamic? Women will now be more selective than ever before in terms of how wealthy their partner is because it can be the difference between safety and needing to work with the public during a pandemic. Even if he’s wealthy enough (from a work from home job) for you to not need to work during dangerous times, they will want the most fulfilling home environment, with all the creature comforts and extra rooms to quarantine. Even if women settle for less than this, they will be…
/r/MensRights15/03/22 11:50 PM
2

I’m pretty sure that’s not how pimpin’ works, but whatever floats your boat lol
/r/MensRights15/03/22 06:50 AM
25

“But then women won’t report it.” Oh, then I guess these men are sacrificial lambs? There’s a difference between there not being enough evidence to convict and a fucking provably false accusation.
/r/MensRights15/03/22 04:35 AM
40

Women will just tell you when men do it, they are afraid he will rape them. You literally can’t argue logically with these people. Even if you accepted their premise, they still won’t concede that it’s just as lewd or inappropriate.
/r/MensRights14/03/22 09:39 PM
2

I just tell them to watch what they say because I record everything.
/r/MensRights14/03/22 01:53 PM
14

It’s only become worse in the years since then. I have a list of commercials (which are repeated endlessly) that slight men. It’s surreal seeing them in succession occasionally. We get it, you can’t make fun of women or anyone who isn’t white. How about you find a better way to sell us your shit?
/r/MensRights14/03/22 12:33 PM
3

Obligatory “not all women, therefore I’m going to ignore all of your valid points even when they are relevant”. I just tell myself that I would be the same way if society allowed me to. That helps, to an extent.
/r/MensRights14/03/22 12:25 PM
1

A murky burgundy red.
/r/MensRights14/03/22 04:50 AM
192

Such a controversial statement that shouldn’t be controversial.
/r/MensRights13/03/22 05:13 AM
1

I agree with the levels of culpability, but my original point stands.
/r/MensRights13/03/22 05:11 AM
1

That’s different than never laying a hand on the person who died…like if I told you to punch the guy, I’m not a manslaughterer or a murderer.
/r/MensRights13/03/22 04:41 AM
-8

The person who pulls the trigger, etc. deserves to be charged with a more severe crime than the person who encouraged it, because the murderer still made the choice to follow through, instead of squashing it. I’m not saying the person who encouraged it should not be punished at all, but there’s a significant difference between encouraging a crime to occur and committing it, and the name of the crimes as well as the punishments should reflect that.
/r/MensRights12/03/22 10:24 PM
5

It’s a crime, but it’s not the crime they encouraged someone to do.
/r/MensRights12/03/22 08:00 PM
9

I believe she should have been punished, but I’ve never supported laws that charge people with something they didn’t do directly. Even if she provided material support and encouraged them, that’s still not actually murder.
/r/MensRights12/03/22 06:48 PM
6

Listen, there isn’t a study on everything. By comparing enough anecdotal evidence and sharing it with each other, it’s a common understanding among men. It depends on the woman, the man, the situation, what is said/done, etc., but in general, more attractive men can get away with more before the woman does something about it.
/r/MensRights12/03/22 01:44 AM
7

Just tell her to ask divorced couples if they ever thought they would get a divorce, and whether or not they changed as people in the years since meeting each other.
/r/MensRights12/03/22 01:33 AM
4

Women have always been the gatekeepers to sex, but the new pursuit of control extends to who they even have to interact with, including via rejection.
/r/MensRights11/03/22 09:04 PM
2

There’s a delicate balance to strike, because a common way to avoid being called out for hypocrisy or double standards is to simply pretend that you’re not like those other members of a group you identify with.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 11:34 PM
3

Death is worse than feeling worse.
/r/MensRights10/03/22 05:43 PM
25

That’s just unnecessary divisive rhetoric.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 09:23 PM
14

What these proponents of deconstructing male fragility fail to realize is that by using the tone they often use “these men who struggle to get laid (read: so pathetic)…”, “Take the L” (and accept your less enjoyable life), etc. IS PRECISELY WHY MEN ARE AFRAID OF BEING VULNERABLE! It will ALWAYS be shameful for a man to fail at manly things. Making fun of it doesn’t take away the stigma, it makes it worse! Imagine being rejected continually and being shamed for even suggesting that maybe conditio…
/r/MensRights09/03/22 10:30 AM
5

Society at large understands that masculine men (aside from the anti-social behavior aspect of masculinity) are preferable to less masculine men. It’s normal to be less than secure in your position in life as a less masculine man in this society. It’s not a coincidence that The Rock introduced to Super Bowl, or that Barack Obama won the presidency with what I can only imagine AI would create as a trustworthy voice. Insecurity is less masculine mens’ problem, but they shouldn’t be regarded negati…
/r/MensRights09/03/22 10:10 AM
1

It’s not necessarily that we want women to be equally represented in those jobs they typically aren’t as well suited for; we just want it to be acknowledged with the same frequency as other inequalities. Basically, we should get points as a gender for that.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 09:36 AM
4

I agree that tantrums are inappropriate, but it need not be a tantrum or otherwise inappropriate in order to be fragile masculinity. Also, OF COURSE more masculine men are more chill when teased or questioned…it’s actually a joke or more playful. If the man is less masculine than average, or less masculine than ideal, then they will be more likely to feel stung.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 09:09 AM
7

Defensiveness is an unwitting expression of insecurity. We all know the most masculine men rarely, if ever, get tested in such ways as you describe, so the mere questioning of one’s masculinity should make a man feel insecure. We shouldn’t judge people negatively for being insecure.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 08:50 AM
14

If a man can’t express his insecurities about how he is perceived by other people in the most primal sense, dominance/masculinity, without it being judged negatively as fragile masculinity, then he has no other dignified choice except to hide his insecurities, thereby having toxic masculinity.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 06:17 AM
101

What I don’t understand is where the line rests between male fragility and toxic masculinity. If you embrace a stoic demeanor for fear of being seen as weak, that’s toxic masculinity. Now that being more open and expressive is deemed male fragility, I don’t see the middle ground and the features that distinguish it from either of the extreme sides.
/r/MensRights09/03/22 01:52 AM
7

It should just be a series of bad things happening to men: G - someone pointing a gun at a man OO - men rounded up in prison (right O is women, filled to a lesser extent) G - an old man bending over a work bench L - a man falling off a ladder E - a fighter jet being shot down
/r/MensRights09/03/22 12:40 AM
42

Once you fully accept that, it makes being single much more palatable.
/r/MensRights06/03/22 12:27 AM
1

That’s not nearly the same. I’ll eat some Chef Boyardee while I watch Iron Chef while I’m at it.
/r/MensRights05/03/22 08:41 PM
0

Maybe if the gender who actually needs sex and a relationship had more leverage in achieving that, we would be better off.
/r/MensRights05/03/22 05:01 PM
13

“Reasons”…you mean, excuses.
/r/MensRights04/03/22 03:51 PM
5

No, I’m saying that both men and women should be able to get out of an unwanted pregnancy without the other person’s consent. I would even be open to the man needing to pay for an abortion, even if the woman ultimately decides to keep the baby.
/r/MensRights28/02/22 06:03 PM
4

Those are risks women must face, that men do not, but that doesn’t justify only allowing women to get out of an unwanted pregnancy.
/r/MensRights28/02/22 05:35 PM
2

I think we’re in agreement…my point was primarily that the argument put forth by many women is disingenuous.
/r/MensRights28/02/22 04:55 PM
4

No, if I became pregnant and I didn’t want to deal with that, I would get an abortion.
/r/MensRights28/02/22 04:53 PM
4

Allowing men that right to “abort” doesn’t stop women from making their own choice.
/r/MensRights28/02/22 04:35 PM
9

Another reason not to move to New Jersey. People really must think women are always innocent.
/r/MensRights28/02/22 01:56 PM
6

At the very least, the women who feel as you do should be as explicit as you just were in their explanation. It isn’t ACTUALLY about relinquishing one’s expectation of not having a child upon having sex, as they claim. My solution is to nudge women toward choosing their sexual partners more wisely by not forcing unwilling men to be active parents and/or providers. Yeah, sorry, hookups with Chad might be more risky under that system. Even though any man can get cold feet or be dishonest in their …
/r/MensRights28/02/22 01:29 PM
239

This is a scenario in which it’s crucial to be very precise. Women will lean into the fact that men don’t bear the pregnancy and give birth. That is true, and it should be acknowledged. However, if their line of reasoning is that choosing to have sex relinquishes one’s choice not to have/raise/provide for a child, then that must apply to everyone, or else that’s not an authentic standard they believe in. They should have to explicitly acknowledge that they believe in a different standard for wom…
/r/MensRights27/02/22 09:07 PM
10

They only say it because she’s less attractive than average. She’s also white, which makes honest reporting about the crime less controversial.
/r/MensRights27/02/22 08:32 PM
4

It’s largely an EARNINGS gap, not a wage gap.
/r/MensRights22/02/22 01:14 AM
1

So ask if they’re the type that wants to be asked, and hope she is?
/r/MensRights21/02/22 03:52 PM
1

Yes there is a downside - being a huge turnoff (lack of spontaneity), an indication of poor perceptive skills and low confidence.
/r/MensRights21/02/22 03:50 PM
0

As do men. I can’t imagine having to affirm every step of the interaction. “Yes, if you can believe it, after I let you do X with me, I’m still into you five minutes later, and I’ll let you know if I’m not comfortable with something.”
/r/MensRights21/02/22 03:35 AM
5

Many of them will retort that while consent is an important concept and that seeking consent is a principle they hold, the often disparate harm that men do to women when breaching consent justifies women’s lapses in adherence to that principle. I would disagree; a principle is a principle, and while we can forgive someone for not adhering to it, we shouldn’t ignore their double standards.
/r/MensRights21/02/22 01:24 AM
71

When all you have is a hammer…
/r/MensRights20/02/22 11:59 PM
39

What did it used to show, advice on how to man up?
/r/MensRights19/02/22 04:22 PM
417

Then they complain that actually caring about credentials is sexist.
/r/MensRights19/02/22 01:58 AM
1

I would move those books next to each other on the shelf
/r/MensRights18/02/22 03:31 PM
10

They do in the US, all else being equal. What’s annoying is that they know men won’t make a fuss about it enough to get it changed, for fear of being unmanly in some way. I highly doubt that all races, for example, have identical driving safety records, but they don’t charge different rates because that would look bad.
/r/MensRights16/02/22 03:54 AM
2

I didn’t say that. The Holocaust was horrible.
/r/MensRights15/02/22 07:43 PM
94

“Howell made the split decision that kept Lichtenstein behind bars, in part, by ruling that he was a greater flight risk than his wife given the evidence against him and his alleged familiarity with fake personas, The Wall Street Journal reported.” What’s to keep the woman from using a pre-planned playbook made by the man to acquire a fake persona, if he didn’t already show her how to do it herself? They were in on this scheme together, after all. Also, bail/bond needs to be abolished - either s…
/r/MensRights15/02/22 03:00 PM
18

I’m tired of what could be relatively gender neutral subject matter being explicitly geared toward one gender. Guess what? Single PEOPLE subsidize the bulk rates of goods and services for families and businesses.
/r/MensRights14/02/22 03:14 PM
3

No time limit though? Literally in the delivery room?
/r/MensRights14/02/22 07:30 AM
-11

Study? I thought we just made shit up.
/r/MensRights14/02/22 06:25 AM
7

Wow, they truly weaponize their victimhood. It’s getting to the point they would have been worse off these days had nothing ever happened.
/r/MensRights14/02/22 05:12 AM
1

They see people becoming millionaires from social media or just being born to a wealthy family who can jumpstart their small business. There isn’t the same kind of respect given to successful men like there once was. You will likely need a partner who works to afford a stable life. There is no “being the man of the house” vibe to be had, and even if there is, you’ll just be cheated on anyway.
/r/MensRights13/02/22 09:53 PM
6

Even average women generally get a lot of attention on social media. Sure, plenty of it is toxic and harassment, but that attention is relevant because it tells these women they are sought after and valuable. How could you not feel like being someone’s literal princess (who can still choose to work, whatever they want) is always one swipe or DM away? The same dynamic is at play for sought after men. The easy, discreet access to casual sex (which is the starting point for many relationships these…
/r/MensRights13/02/22 06:41 PM
1

Write about how heterosexual women are generally, subconsciously attracted to toxic masculinity, and that their mating behavior (prefer more macho men for short term flings and genetic profiles, but prefer more tame, intelligent men for marriage/raising her children) influences some men to gravitate toward displaying toxic masculinity in an attempt to win over women, albeit often unsuccessfully.
/r/MensRights10/02/22 07:14 PM
1

I suppose so, if that’s being psychotic.
/r/MensRights08/02/22 06:33 AM
1

The point isn’t that the partner with leverage is cheating, necessarily; it’s that he or she knows that their partner is more likely to bend to their will, for fear of being abandoned, with a lower probability of finding someone who is as good to replace the partner who has more leverage.
/r/MensRights08/02/22 06:30 AM
10

I’m telling you guys, be tame and dominate them by sheer lack of low hanging fruit. “Intellectual coward” Tame alternative: “Seem overly hesitant to analyze this more deeply” “Seem overly hesitant to put your opinion out there”
/r/MensRights08/02/22 12:35 AM
2

I’m just saying, be aware of that possible dynamic. It may not be readily apparent to you whether or not, or to which degree, a partner who is “better” than you will use their leverage. To each their own, but I would rather be alone than put in the effort necessary to possibly attract someone who I would be attracted to enough to fully commit to AND not be the lower leverage partner. Unfortunately, most of our time is illuminated and not between the sheets, so my standards reflect that. I would …
/r/MensRights07/02/22 11:54 PM
1

You should also be aware that women and men use sexual/dating marketplace value discrepancies between themselves and a partner for leverage. Let’s say you’re a 5 and she’s a 7 (not just based on physical attractiveness, but overall), she will probably know that she has the leverage. Leverage boils down to having more options for partners outside of the relationship. The examples of how leverage is used are varied in number and degree, and a leverage imbalance doesn’t necessarily guarantee that p…
/r/MensRights07/02/22 11:32 PM
-1

I have no sympathy for anyone who chose to have children, even if society would eventually crumble if nobody made that choice.
/r/MensRights07/02/22 08:26 PM
1

The applicant pool skews toward women, but their philosophy on hiring for diversity is that you don’t let that stop you from striving for representation that’s reflective of society as a whole (HR speak for hire diverse candidates even if they aren’t THE best candidate). They don’t extend that to men, though.
/r/MensRights07/02/22 06:54 PM
0

Here’s a shocker: girls can wear “boys” clothing.
/r/MensRights07/02/22 06:33 PM
291

Record everything.
/r/MensRights07/02/22 02:18 PM
2

Fuck her. There should be a movie about a vigilante who straightens out situations like this. Watch the movie Unhinged, God Bless America, or Falling Down. That kind of tone.
/r/MensRights07/02/22 01:20 PM
11

I’ve noticed that women who actually acknowledge this nuance either use statistical analysis in their career (too intelligent to ignore the flaws of the commonly cited earnings gap statistics) or they are the same women who have more male friends/like to score points for siding with men. Rarely have I encountered women who are ordinary in their mathematical ability and social group, while having the fortitude to stand up for what should be an obvious flaw to everyone, in those studies.
/r/MensRights07/02/22 12:47 PM
2

Whatever you say.
/r/MensRights06/02/22 10:28 PM
5

To each their own. People are only upset because he’s pointing out evil women and the absurdity of assuming they are always honest.
/r/MensRights06/02/22 10:09 PM
10

My favorite jokes are the ones that bomb hard because people are afraid to laugh/are offended.
/r/MensRights06/02/22 08:57 PM
2

I buy major appliances and save any optional shopping specifically for women’s day. Tipping well at a restaurant is the cherry on top. “Men are so horrible, I know. Here’s $100 so you can stop bitching about your optional pink goods for a bit.”
/r/MensRights06/02/22 05:58 PM
5

That’s why you don’t tell her you have one.
/r/MensRights05/02/22 07:11 PM
15

It’s because they know women generally have more respect for men who out earn and out class them, even if they don’t admit it.
/r/MensRights05/02/22 04:34 PM
2

I would be sure to draw a distinction between aggression and violence, and look for any differences between genders in the manifestation of that aggression.
/r/MensRights04/02/22 02:57 PM
3

They are only painting a target in their back.
/r/MensRights04/02/22 02:38 PM
50

There are plenty of attitudes and beliefs unofficially associated with it, but it’s essentially men choosing not to form romantic relationships with women, because the cost-benefit of doing so isn’t worth it to them. As you can imagine, there’s plenty of opportunity for jaded, disenfranchised men to turn it into something darker than that simple overall philosophy.
/r/MensRights04/02/22 12:50 AM
49

Some of us belong in MGTOW, but moderating that sub was actually work, so they banned it.
/r/MensRights04/02/22 12:12 AM
23

You mean if women have sex with some of the largest, most skilled lovers over the course of their life, that the person who happens to be their husband might not satisfy them as much? Shocker…
/r/MensRights03/02/22 11:06 PM
1

Wow, what a stupid person for even trying to do that to him.
/r/MensRights03/02/22 08:53 PM
35

Boy? You must mean “child”. They don’t need to know the gender if it isn’t female. /s
/r/MensRights02/02/22 08:39 PM
47

At least they are honest about wanting double standards when they favor women. It’s not more expensive to be a woman. It’s more expensive to be a woman when they choose to conform to what society tells them they need, like designer shoes. It’s more expensive to be a man if they want to reduce the probability of their wife leaving them because on average, they have more respect for men who are wealthier than them.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 06:03 PM
3

I’m afraid that you’re right. That’s even worse than punishing thought crime, because it’s assuming they even thought with hate for that gender. Also, whoever said that the recidivism rate of the perpetrators of hate crimes is greater, therefore, the sentences should be longer, that’s essentially punishing someone for what other people have done. Everyone deserves the opportunity to prove themselves to be the exception to the trend.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 04:59 PM
16

Way more fist bumps and way less bitching.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 04:18 AM
11

Even if that’s not the reasoning for hate crime laws, that’s the message and net effect.
/r/MensRights02/02/22 02:26 AM
16

If a man kills a woman he doesn’t know, and he doesn’t speak to the reasoning of his choice, is that presumed to be femicide? Or do you actually need to prove that he killed her BECAUSE she’s a woman? Can women commit femicide?
/r/MensRights02/02/22 02:25 AM
20

If women want to be treated equally, they ought to just operate more appealing businesses, not seek special treatment. Just wait until some angsty 20-something answers questions in court one day, “I chose the target because Google told me…”.
/r/MensRights01/02/22 03:21 PM
38

The identities of all parties in a criminal case should be confidential, especially when it comes to sex crimes.
/r/MensRights31/01/22 10:26 PM
1

That’s basically saying he should negotiate with her to have sex when she doesn’t want to. If she wanted to have sex more than she currently allows, then she would have already.
/r/MensRights31/01/22 06:11 PM
1

Intimacy and security are important as well, but to pretend as though one isn’t justified in expecting to have sex with their wife, usually the only person she would allow you to have sex with, lest she divorce you, is delusional.
/r/MensRights31/01/22 06:06 PM
16

Imagine how badly they would be roasted for including the word “believe” in that headline if it were about the opposite gender.
/r/MensRights31/01/22 05:59 PM
3

We do just about everything else with friends. One is correct to presume that sex is a primary distinction of a romantic relationship… This would strike you as odd, would it not?: “I was having sex with Sally last night…” “You mean Susan, your wife?” “No, she’s just my wife. We don’t have sex. I have sex with my friend Susan.”
/r/MensRights31/01/22 05:56 PM
1

The solution isn’t compromise, it’s ending the relationship if sex is important to him. Women have no qualms about leaving men who lose their job. “It was his end of the bargain, etc.”
/r/MensRights31/01/22 05:50 PM
39

Obviously breaking the law by knowingly transmitting a disease is wrong. Of course she has the right to feel however she wants. The continuation of her sex addiction is not even 1% the man’s responsibility for choosing to have sex with her, even if she has told him that she’s addicted to sex. Imagine a man using his difficult to control urges as an excuse for literally anything. It isn’t as well received as her pity party.
/r/MensRights31/01/22 05:29 PM
59

“Your honor, it’s been a while since the kidnapping though…no backsies.”
/r/MensRights31/01/22 05:23 PM
7

I don’t think the tingles preclude that direction from also being a good choice, but I get your point. I always laugh (because it’s true) at the studies that show men have a lower IQ when interacting with attractive women and such.
/r/MensRights31/01/22 02:29 PM
5

You start by identifying an issue and work from there. It seems like the article and people in general are hesitant to exclusively even pin that on someone when that person is a woman.
/r/MensRights31/01/22 02:27 PM
349

Unreal. I’m presuming she was supported in her vilification of the men who had sex with her. I get that sex addiction is a real thing, but are we really to expect the people she chose to have sex with to push her away, like a bartender to someone who had too many drinks? If she’s conscious/not overly intoxicated and able to make decisions for herself, that’s on her. It’s a common tactic for people to throw in more extreme examples (the parties, etc.) as a way to color the entire narrative as bei…
/r/MensRights31/01/22 12:36 PM
1

I’m only on this sub because another one was banned. No worries here.
/r/MensRights31/01/22 06:58 AM
2

You’re reading into my answer. It’s simply a fact that people can make false accusations against one another, and practically nothing can disprove (or prove) them, save for extreme levels of surveillance.
/r/MensRights31/01/22 04:49 AM
28

I appreciate the explanation. I generally understood those dynamics to be true, even without knowing the underlying causes. I feel like nature just does what it needs to “trick” us into finding a mate and reproducing. I’m not sure if it’s better knowing that we’re essentially biological robots of sorts, but I like knowing the truth even if it takes away from the romance of it all.
/r/MensRights31/01/22 04:41 AM
24

I hate this shit. At least she is honest though. And women act like rings aren’t a brand of being spoken for/taken and a repellant of other men. It’s also a status symbol (“I have a wealthy husband”).
/r/MensRights30/01/22 11:08 PM
91

Don’t get married and perhaps don’t cohabitate. Libido changes as one ages, but you don’t have to guarantee yourself to someone and see them 24/7, dampening the spark and the pressure to keep each other interested.
/r/MensRights30/01/22 11:06 PM
6

Imagine capturing, “Nobody is going to believe you because you’re a man and I’m a woman.” Yup…keep going…lol
/r/MensRights30/01/22 10:44 PM
164

Even if she can’t control it, her decline in libido is objectively at least a primary contributing factor to a less than functional relationship, when relatively frequent sex was established as the expectation.
/r/MensRights30/01/22 09:50 PM
529

“Five years into marriage, the average husband's sexual desires are unchanged, but the average wife's have decreased. Knowing that this is a common pattern might help couples !!! refrain from blaming themselves and each other !!! or fearing their marriage has problems.” Right, because even when studies show that it’s women who change, it’s nobody’s fault or responsibility. If it were men, the article would be all about health and ED meds.
/r/MensRights30/01/22 09:12 PM
6

I feel like they make a much bigger deal about issues that are a slam dunk from an international perspective, like the law that says raping your wife is still rape, but then they will slide shit like this in under the radar.
/r/MensRights30/01/22 07:27 PM
23

“…the Supreme Court had said the concept of mental cruelty depends on the social strata of the people involved, their individualistic perception and their level of endurance and sensitivity. The court said it would be difficult to generalise but it could be appreciated based on facts of individual case.” That’s ridiculous. One’s punishment for cheating (if we’re even entertaining the concept of official punishments from the state) shouldn’t hinge on how sensitive one’s spouse is.
/r/MensRights30/01/22 07:15 PM
9

“But I like my husband’s mutilated genitals, so my son will be mutilated as well.”
/r/MensRights30/01/22 07:03 PM
35

Social issues/discrimination related to men’s ability to succeed in society.
/r/MensRights30/01/22 07:02 PM
39

That a judge and jury will trust. Let’s be honest, anyone who’s always with you like that will be presumed to be biased in favor of you.
/r/MensRights30/01/22 07:16 AM
323

No. Well, actually, only if they never leave their home and have a constant recording of the entrances to prove that nobody else entered. Even then, they could say it happened before that.
/r/MensRights30/01/22 06:58 AM
1

Ok, I’ll admit that I should not have spoken for all men, although, I think most people understand that nobody believes that all men or all women believe anything. You misunderstood or mischaracterized my mindset. I change it based on what I believe to be true, not based on what other people think. Other people merely help me discover new information.
/r/MensRights30/01/22 02:38 AM
8

That’s the most ironic part of it; some of the same people who are the strongest supporters of sexual assault/rape victims will STILL shame men for not getting laid.
/r/MensRights30/01/22 02:33 AM
-1

You reference how common censorship is, what other men/how many people think something, etc. as though it should sway my opinion, or that it’s justification of your own. None of that matters to me. I form my opinions based on how I think about what I’ve read and experienced. I hear people out only as a way of further informing myself, but I do my best not to allow it to influence my opinion. For example, I can see the perceived benefits of censorship, but I don’t believe those outweigh the downs…
/r/MensRights30/01/22 12:29 AM
1

You put a lot of stock in what other people think, as though it’s a metric of the validity of your beliefs.
/r/MensRights30/01/22 12:22 AM
2

That’s your opinion. I understand that Reddit can choose to censor people, but that discretion and how commonly it’s employed does not make it acceptable to me. Hate speech is subjective, by the way. One can complain and point out issues they have with people without it being hate, as in, “Let’s wipe this group off the face of the planet.” Even if it were, good luck to anyone except for the military in attempting that. If FDS were removed from Reddit, I would be embarrassed for men. We can accep…
/r/MensRights30/01/22 12:07 AM
9

Oh no, not shaming! Unless someone is making a credible threat of violence against an individual target, they shouldn’t be censored. If people want to bash the opposite gender all day, let them. Individuals are responsible for their actions, even if every message they receive from society told them to do it, let alone a forum they voluntarily participate in.
/r/MensRights29/01/22 11:53 PM
23

Only when you’re a man and you talk about it online, like in the banned MGTOW sub.
/r/MensRights29/01/22 08:45 PM
14

Calling a man out for his oversimplified statements is different than shaming him for a deficiency of social or sexual prowess, whether it’s real or perceived.
/r/MensRights29/01/22 05:32 PM
14

They think they “won” because men in a society that values their appeal to and utility for women above all, don’t want to delve into the fact that they haven’t been particularly successful in that regard. If the man is silent/changes the subject, then of course the person who used the logical fallacy to refute the man’s point will think they “won”.
/r/MensRights29/01/22 04:50 PM
37

It’s not inadvertent division; it’s intentional.
/r/MensRights29/01/22 03:43 AM
25

Too many facts bro, they can’t read. /s In all seriousness, it’s difficult for people who are conditioned by our society to see the worst in men that it’s anything but punishment/oppression of women as opposed to men acting emotionally.
/r/MensRights29/01/22 03:42 AM
0

Even that justification of ladies night is heteronormative and discriminatory against men, especially gay and asexual men.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 11:51 PM
4

I’ll just leave everyone alone, thank you very much.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 10:39 PM
3

Who cares about that position though? Am I right? It’s more important to have people who were born the right way on the court.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 10:07 PM
2

If you don’t care if some women choose to get the surgery, then don’t speak against the availability of it.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 10:06 PM
2

Why would your comment preclude all women from wanting the surgery?
/r/MensRights28/01/22 09:01 PM
37

That’s even worse. At least my example was an anonymous question in a more casual format. You literally emailed them as a concerned employee.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 07:01 PM
549

Our HR department hosted a virtual Q&A with the option to submit questions “anonymously”. After a couple of questions about diversity of race, I asked what they are doing to ensure diversity of gender when hiring for the HR department. The seven member panel of all women ignored the question, despite it being upvoted to the top of the queue. They simply rambled on and on about the previous question until we were out of time.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 06:16 PM
21

That’s the new move; if they don’t have to be the people doing the technical work, they can skate by being authoritative in a managerial role.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 05:37 PM
18

Representation, you know? 12% = 50% apparently…
/r/MensRights28/01/22 05:22 PM
10

That’s the thing about principles, they aren’t impacted by tempting scenarios. If it’s literally all the same, flip coins.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 04:22 PM
20

Don’t broadcast it though, just pick who you want. How would you feel knowing that you could have been EXACTLY the same in your qualifications, skill, and philosophy, but you would not have been chosen if you weren’t a black woman?
/r/MensRights28/01/22 04:05 PM
1

Imagine how hard you would be laughed off of the internet for suggesting that it was a set up if the genders were reversed.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 06:10 AM
180

At this point, being a woman, especially if you’re not white, is an advantage in being hired. Every company is itching to be more diverse. It’s literally socially acceptable for the President to announce that he will discriminate against anyone who isn’t a black woman to be the Supreme Court Justice nominee, and before that, he announced the same criteria for his future running mate. I had a coworker who used to tout how she uses her gender-neutral nickname to trick people into interviewing her.…
/r/MensRights28/01/22 05:48 AM
5

I’ve noticed that if I’m walking past a woman, and we’re facing each other for a decent distance before passing one another, they really seem shocked that I keep looking straight past them the whole time. They will either turn around to see what I’m looking at, or start to turn their head toward me as we’re about to pass, like, “What is wrong with this guy?”
/r/MensRights28/01/22 05:40 AM
2

Right? We don’t have the same connectedness with our peers as women do. There’s a reason women are more likely to initiate divorce and remain single for longer; they don’t typically need to lean on their partner in as many ways as men do.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 03:28 AM
3

Look at the person who went back and forth with me in this post (it was more specific to venting online), but it’s essentially like, “Stop saying this.” Even if they couch it as being an issue with the WAY you speak, it feels like it comes from a place of disagreement/opposition.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 03:26 AM
5

That’s what I’m saying, they view the mere mention of being rejected as proof of feeling entitled, and it’s not necessarily the case, and it’s often not.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 03:15 AM
1

The women are projecting that entitlement onto men? Like, “How could he not be feeling entitled? I would feel that way.”?
/r/MensRights28/01/22 02:22 AM
3

That’s part of what bothers me about it; the people who are continually in relationships aren’t in a position to reveal themselves to be bitter to the same extent that many people are. Even when they’re rejected, it’s a different experience if you know that you’re likely to find someone after that, sooner than average.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 02:21 AM
5

A women’s only gym is more extreme than simply giving them their own part of the gym. I’m surprised they don’t allow both in that case.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 12:36 AM
2

It seems as though you don’t want to read it, so don’t. Your response is typical for men expressing themselves online. Men are rarely outright refuted when we have a valid point; we are told, essentially, that we don’t matter.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 12:33 AM
4

Not everything posted online is linked to you on the surface. Even anonymous people are told they are being entitled for venting.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 12:20 AM
6

Those men shouldn’t need to refrain from expressing themselves. Even though men aren’t entitled to attention and affection from women, that doesn’t automatically make a woman’s behavior (other than the actual ignoring or lack of affection itself) reasonable or appropriate. There is still a thing called courtesy, and it’s not gendered. It’s perfectly valid for people to critique the standards and behavior of others, and to lament it.
/r/MensRights28/01/22 12:15 AM
2

“But if men can look at these pretty women in media, I will look worse by comparison!” Lol
/r/MensRights27/01/22 11:41 PM
1

I think she’s advocating not for shorter prison sentences for men, but longer sentences for women? Like the equality shouldn’t make men’s lives better, it should make women’s lives worse, because women are stronger than we give them credit for?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 11:40 PM
2

But men who work more make more money than me!
/r/MensRights27/01/22 11:30 PM
2

I need service ASAP and it needs to be a woman driver!
/r/MensRights27/01/22 11:29 PM
1

But my feewings…
/r/MensRights27/01/22 11:28 PM
2

I can’t believe that AA caved after the fact. For fuck’s sake, there is nothing objectionable about treating your customers the same regardless of gender! She’s just a trouble maker. She even tried to drag fucking Hyundai into her pity party.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 11:27 PM
2

How am I not shocked that’s her?
/r/MensRights27/01/22 11:20 PM
2

He’s not one of my favorite politicians, but he definitely has the confidence to speak up for people and issues that are often marginalized.
/r/MensRights27/01/22 11:19 PM
215

No shit. They bank on men being too afraid to say anything for fear of being called sexist and misogynistic. “…several states including Alaska, Colorado, Illinois, Massachusetts and New Jersey have changed their gender discrimination laws to exclude fitness clubs.” For those of you who are deciding where to move, avoid these states. Following that reasoning, there’s nothing stopping them from allowing gender discrimination in other venues, because people are harassed everywhere…
/r/MensRights27/01/22 06:36 PM
1

Ok, but is that any more effective than using prejudice, if they use the opportunity to derail the discussion? I would wager not. You end up defending a side point instead of your original point, and you’ll never be granted the time necessary to hash it all out and continue.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 10:34 PM
2

It makes the same point though. Nobody will misunderstand and think prejudice against men has a positive connotation. They know exactly what you mean.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 08:40 PM
2

Just say prejudice against men. It’s just as bad, and they can’t rant and derail your actual point.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 08:23 PM
4

He also cast a black woman to be his wife on Louie, even though that’s not true in real life and the kids on the show are white (pointing out how diversity in casting doesn’t always make sense).
/r/MensRights26/01/22 07:34 PM
0

It gives him a better chance than doing otherwise.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 07:18 PM
0

Sometimes you need to speak their lingo to get a foot in the door.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 04:26 PM
1

I’m not saying that all women are like that. Enough women are like that for it to be a valid concern among men. Pessimism is warranted in some aspects of life, when you’re given reason to be.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 04:24 PM
1

I feel bad for you’re inability to understand that people won’t say the things I assert out loud; it just happens. People grow resentful of their lesser earning husbands; it’s been proven to be more than a fluke, there is a trend.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 04:00 PM
-5

Sexism requires historical, systematic advantages + prejudice.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 03:59 PM
4

No shit?
/r/MensRights26/01/22 02:09 AM
136

Don’t let anyone say this is proof that cancel culture doesn’t exist. Cancel culture is when there is palpable desire among the masses to see people face negative consequences for their behavior (which is often unrelated to their profession), including loss of money and public smearing. Just a side note, I found it hilarious that Louis CK waited 9 months after publicly apologizing to make an appearance at a club…so women could yell about how that’s not a long time…
/r/MensRights26/01/22 02:07 AM
8

That’s the beauty of it; we’re not a monolith…imagine, people who mostly agree with one another about certain issues, can gasp disagree about some issues.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 01:39 AM
3

It’s not a coincidence that her face doesn’t look similar to these characters.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 12:54 AM
9

Men definitely take more risks than women, on average. It’s likely due to our socialization and testosterone levels.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 12:47 AM
28

I’m telling you, it pays to keep a list of attacks that people rely on, and coming up with counters to them.
/r/MensRights26/01/22 12:04 AM
0

I’m the best comment, just filter it that way and look at the top.
/r/MensRights25/01/22 11:46 PM
14

Where are the male only study groups? Some men have social anxiety around women, or worse, they were abused by women.
/r/MensRights25/01/22 10:45 PM
24

He’s being sarcastic.
/r/MensRights25/01/22 09:41 PM
1

I know.
/r/MensRights25/01/22 09:25 PM
1

At least they would have to break their own rules.
/r/MensRights25/01/22 09:22 PM
139

This will be annoying to you, but do everything you can to explain UP FRONT how you aren’t there to cause a problem. I know it’s weak, but you will never be able to get a word in after you make your points if you allow the audience to ruminate on their “you’re an incel” prejudice the whole time you’re talking. Even if you do this, people will say, “Well, he knew what he was doing, why else would he feel the need to preface his statements like that.” So, in order to hedge against that, you need t…
/r/MensRights25/01/22 08:35 PM
38

Why would they ban it if the woman wants it? Because they “only want it because of sexist men”?
/r/MensRights25/01/22 07:39 PM
15

If someone puts their hands down your pants against your will, it’s sexual ASSAULT, not sexual harassment.
/r/MensRights25/01/22 05:37 PM
10

You need to read my previous comment more closely, I didn’t say that I am doomed to a life of misery. Most women are as I describe, and most men are the way you mentioned you don’t believe them to be, at least to some significant degree. It doesn’t need to be something they overtly speak about or acknowledge in order to be a dynamic that influences their choices, even subconsciously.
/r/MensRights25/01/22 04:25 PM
16

That’s the easy way to dismiss men’s grievances. I can “be cynical” and not allow it to determine my behavior. People like to pretend that once a man complains, he MUST be an insufferable asshole doomed for misery. That’s common, but one shouldn’t PRESUME that’s the case for any given individual. Women seek men who are wealthier than them, or will get an inheritance, even when they don’t need a man to support them financially. Women are exponentially more likely to initiate divorce. The risk of …
/r/MensRights25/01/22 03:43 PM
3

It’s the only way to infiltrate. If you do it right, there is discussion, you just need to be careful.
/r/MensRights25/01/22 03:41 PM
30

Men are only valued for their contribution to society though. There is no inherent value.
/r/MensRights25/01/22 03:30 PM
6

I write out my whole post in the notes app, read it over a couple of times, looking for anything even remotely objectionable. I try to find the softest way of communicating the same message. I take out words that, even if they’re objectively acceptable, have a negative connotation or have been bastardized by radical people.
/r/MensRights25/01/22 02:45 PM
5

Don’t mention moderation behavior or other users. It’s not that hard. I agree that it should be allowed, but they have an agenda to push.
/r/MensRights25/01/22 02:27 PM
16

We know by now that mods of certain subs will use every excuse to ban posts that don’t 100% fit their narrative. If you truly want to get under their skin, you need to refrain from being snarky. It’s not easy, but if you neuter your language to the driest form, and only stick to facts and your experiences, you can watch them stumble all over themselves in vain trying to provoke you into responding to them in a hostile way. They are used to picking off low hanging fruit. They anticipate people th…
/r/MensRights25/01/22 02:15 PM
5

I had a social studies teacher who leaned into media literacy, and it helped to changed my life.
/r/MensRights25/01/22 02:21 AM
8

Accept that most crimes aren’t provable in a court of law. A good start would be to keep the plaintiff and the defendant’s names confidential, that way it’s not media circus.
/r/MensRights24/01/22 11:12 PM
4

Civil discourse is almost rebellious at this point.
/r/MensRights24/01/22 12:48 AM
6

Right, I appreciate your understanding of nuance. Most people would be like, “You support rape because sex drive = rape?!”
/r/MensRights24/01/22 12:10 AM
11

If a woman thinks that men have such high sex drives that sexual assault against them shouldn’t be viewed as negatively as sexual assault against women, then they should expect such men to be sexually aggressive. I disagree with the notion of lesser punishments for sexual assault against men, and I’m against sexual assault (shouldn’t need to clarify that, but I will just in case).
/r/MensRights24/01/22 12:03 AM
2

Casual prejudice as in, largely accepted by society, and there is social pressure not to point it out for fear of appearing petty, even though neglecting to call it out allows such instances of casual prejudice against men to accumulate. It’s interesting, because some of the same women who encourage men’s liberation from gender roles will use the shame of “whining” about unfairness against men.
/r/MensRights23/01/22 11:41 PM
1

Ok, can you please weigh in on the MAIN POINT of my post? We get it, you’re analytical.
/r/MensRights23/01/22 11:01 PM
3

If an item isn’t worth the price to you, don’t buy it, even if you face social pressure to buy it…
/r/MensRights23/01/22 10:48 PM
1

When Ashley Graham is not pregnant, she has hovered between overweight and obese. Our concept of obese has been morphed into morbidly obese. It doesn’t take much to be overweight, and we are approaching 50% adult obesity in the US, which alters our perception of a healthy weight, even outside of the US due to mass media portrayals of Americans. Most people who read my post would know that I didn’t mean with accident, injury, surgery, or hormone therapy. Sometimes you need to make presumptions.
/r/MensRights23/01/22 10:31 PM
1

Also, if we’re truly embracing the replacement of “female” with “woman”, then we need to stop with the use of “male”. They don’t, only because “man X” sounds volumes more ludicrous, despite it being the counterpart to “woman X”.
/r/MensRights23/01/22 07:01 PM
1

The reason for generalities is that they prevent people who disagree from saying, “It’s just this one example, or several examples, that you cherry-picked.”
/r/MensRights23/01/22 06:59 PM
1

I’m not saying it’s inherently wrong, just that we should acknowledge that if people are going to call shallowness bad, they should also call shallowness+ (women’s version) bad as well.
/r/MensRights23/01/22 06:16 PM
27

Right? It certainly doesn’t help his case that’s she not ugly. What’s interesting to me is that some of these same women will pretend to be shocked when men act on their sexual desires, even though they think we’re so sexual that we should accept sexual assault happening to us. Which is it?
/r/MensRights23/01/22 06:06 PM
1

My point is that’s not shallow when they also have higher standards for men in addition to physical attractiveness, so not “being shallow” isn’t necessarily better, it’s just even more stringent, which was the heart of the criticism against men’s shallowness, it’s too strict.
/r/MensRights23/01/22 05:50 PM
136

Watch the women you never thought were flexible bend over backwards to defend this woman.
/r/MensRights23/01/22 05:38 PM
0

Ashley Graham comes to mind. Even though one can improve their appearance (by losing weight, etc.), my point is that the foundation of your appearance (height, skeletal structure, symmetry) is all but set in stone as an adult.
/r/MensRights23/01/22 05:17 PM
17

Not a wise idea when he literally had less than ever to lose.
/r/MensRights23/01/22 05:13 PM
1

Does this law make marriage any more risky for men than it is in the US?
/r/MensRights23/01/22 05:07 PM
0

The way I think of it is, you can always maximize your attractiveness, but you can’t change the canvas that makes up the majority of your appearance.
/r/MensRights23/01/22 04:17 PM
1

“SKELETAL STRUCTURE, ESPECIALLY FACIAL APPEARANCE” Do you think I wasn’t referring to how facial skeletal structure affects facial appearance? You’re not taking an overall stance on my point of the post.
/r/MensRights23/01/22 03:41 PM
24

Some women have A LOT of faith in a man’s desire to live outside of prison.
/r/MensRights23/01/22 02:40 PM
3

Facial structure (not fat levels) isn’t changeable except for surgery.
/r/MensRights23/01/22 03:03 AM
2

Who said the genders are equally selfish?
/r/MensRights21/01/22 11:02 PM
11

People just aren’t comfortable with the notion that it’s very difficult to prove the guilt of the alleged perpetrator of most crimes. It quite literally does not matter if one thinks they know one is guilty. The push to eliminate juries for specific types of cases is blatant prejudice against men. You’re telling me John and Jane have a say in the trial when one is accused of MURDER, but not rape?
/r/MensRights21/01/22 04:49 PM
5

We pretend that ugly people and shallowness don’t exist, that way we can 100% demonize outcast men.
/r/MensRights21/01/22 06:07 AM
5

And they have themselves to blame. Why would we choose a partner that will statistically be more likely to leave us because we’re mere equals or lesser earners? Even if they stay, it’s more likely that they will leverage their superiority to you for whatever they want, “wearing the pants” so to speak.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 09:13 PM
3

It’s natural in that our brains are wired for the Stone Age.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 09:12 PM
4

That doesn’t negate what I said.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 09:11 PM
5

I meant that they scoff in disapproval.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 08:24 PM
2

This is just fodder for those in favor of a women-exclusive section on the Underground.
/r/MensRights20/01/22 05:26 PM
3

That’s scary.
/r/MensRights19/01/22 03:02 AM
1

Fuck that, it’s time men’s concerns were taken seriously. We’re literally talking about raising Chad’s kid for 18+ years while he’s out making more. There are decisions men will make differently and bullshit they will put up with if they truly believe their wife made a baby with them, none of which is deserved under false pretenses.
/r/MensRights15/01/22 07:06 AM
1

Don’t let their arguments hold weight. The only reason they would be opposed to one more test at the hospital would be if she feared the baby may not be the boyfriend’s/husband’s. If they knew with certainty that women didn’t cheat and pass off children to another man, they would gladly allow the 100% confirmation test results to make a mockery of men, but they know it would cause men to justifiably leave their partners and some other dude’s kid.
/r/MensRights15/01/22 07:03 AM
1

Would have been dead before the article was written, swear to god.
/r/MensRights15/01/22 06:59 AM
1

Ok, I don’t want to hear them bitching when their merit is questioned then. You literally cannot objectively prove they would have been promoted if they were men.
/r/MensRights15/01/22 06:56 AM
1

Even if he wouldn’t have raped a man, that doesn’t mean he killed her because of her gender.
/r/MensRights15/01/22 06:54 AM
1

I’m sorry, but a kill is a kill. Unless someone explicitly declares that the only reason they killed someone was because of their gender, it’s a non-starter for me. Some women will die due to sexism and the guy is just going to have to rot like a normal killer. Deal with it.
/r/MensRights15/01/22 06:52 AM
1

“Lol amiright? That’s why I only interact with men from my college or office.”
/r/MensRights15/01/22 06:50 AM
1

Shocker; it’s usually not their idea to get divorced and everyone assumes it’s his fault and that he deserves the short end of the stick.
/r/MensRights15/01/22 06:49 AM
1

Not on Reddit though, lol. I know I always mass censor the weakest movements that don’t present a threat to pop ideology.
/r/MensRights15/01/22 06:42 AM
1

Are we divided yet?
/r/MensRights15/01/22 06:38 AM
3

Obligatory “it’s sexist to criticize anything about a woman or what she says, small pp incel not real man”
/r/MensRights15/01/22 06:36 AM
24

Even if it were true, it should be a term that garners sympathy, not disdain. A greater percentage of women kill someone than do incels, and that’s saying something.
/r/MensRights15/01/22 02:29 AM
8

First of all, I can’t seem to get a single question onto that sub. It can’t be a yes or no answer, single word answer, a question that can be researched online, a question that leans toward a certain answer, blah blah like what CAN you ask?! The way I try to explain it to people is this: Imagine if after being treated with sexism, EVERYONE pretended that you were crazy for calling it out. Like, at least women have that. Most people will back them up and agree that they were treated poorly. For m…
/r/MensRights15/01/22 02:27 AM
1

Right? The homophobia is acceptable because it was prejudiced against men first?
/r/MensRights15/01/22 01:56 AM
2

Juxtapose this with reactions to robotic sex dolls.
/r/MensRights15/01/22 01:05 AM
1

You’re going to have to take men on their word that they catch flak for expressing their preferences, whereas some of these same women expect not to be challenged when they express their preferences.
/r/MensRights13/01/22 01:05 AM
2

This woman isn’t going to tweet that she’s a hypocrite, I’m sorry that you’re going to have to believe the collective male experience when it comes to what we encounter with this subject.
/r/MensRights12/01/22 05:41 AM
3

Doesn’t like and isn’t attracted to are both negative assessments, which was the point. I would be shocked if she’s the one consistent woman who doesn’t mind criticism of women.
/r/MensRights12/01/22 03:46 AM
6

She is expecting everyone to accept her expression that she doesn’t like men who cry outside of specific circumstances. When men express what they don’t like about women, they are told by women like this that they are shaming women who don’t conform to their preferences.
/r/MensRights12/01/22 12:17 AM
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The problem is that men aren’t afforded the same latitude when it comes to expressing our preference, without being raked over the coals for it. Women will swear up and down that we have the right to express ourselves by merely being able to speak it, but when women are criticized for expressing their preferences, their right to speak supposedly should extent to not being criticized.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 06:45 PM
50

For every one that actually says it out loud…you know more are thinking it.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 06:43 PM
41

Speak up for us when other women are perpetuating unprincipled behaviors and attitudes toward men. Meaning, for example, if you stand for equal treatment, don’t allow someone to slight a man for being less than masculine, as you wouldn’t stand for someone criticizing a more masculine than average woman. Even the gentlest, “It’s more complicated than that.” (Unrelated to the previous paragraph) as pushback can make a difference, because often it’s the case that other women feel the same way, but …
/r/MensRights11/01/22 06:12 AM
1

It’s just pretext for studios to discriminate against male directors. Oh, yeah, I’ll show some skin…if it’s a woman behind the camera making me look extra sexy…not a man. He might think about me while he’s doing his fucking job.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 05:03 AM
2

I love how even in an article that acknowledges this dynamic, it’s framed from the perspective of a formerly overweight woman, which makes men look bad instead of the women taking full advantage.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 05:02 AM
1

Let’s see…men are programmed to want sex with whatever isn’t ugly, and women are programmed to be picky? Maybe that makes life less than pleasant for average men…
/r/MensRights11/01/22 05:00 AM
1

They are more empathetic than men…when it comes to women.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 04:59 AM
2

Can’t we all just be fully divided into our respective pig pens yet? This is becoming unbearably painful to witness. If we all saw through this bullshit we would have a living wage by now.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 04:56 AM
1

It’s a thinly veiled attempt at pandering to the womyn crowd. I’m sorry, but make that movie with men who don’t need women, and there would be screeches about it.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 04:54 AM
1

Unless they are a man, then they should be fired. “AmIright ladies? He’s probably an incel anyway hahaha.”
/r/MensRights11/01/22 04:51 AM
2

Blame the victim some more. Did you ever think they don’t report it because they wouldn’t be taken seriously, and even if it were, the coworkers wouldn’t be on your side? What was it that a woman once said to me? Oh yeah, you’re not my gender, so maybe you don’t know what it’s like.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 04:48 AM
1

This is disgraceful. These professional women don’t have one bit of concern about what masses of undesired men are capable of when all society can threaten them with is three hots and a cot.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 03:34 AM
2

Wow, all I needed was a sex change and hate in my heart and I could have spewed enough garbage for my editor to pour onto this rag of a publication.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 03:31 AM
2

I’m guessing he wrote a comment that’s akin to the inverse of the article? Lol
/r/MensRights11/01/22 03:28 AM
8

This. Keep our gender out of your mouth then, since we have to be experts to know anything, apparently.
/r/MensRights11/01/22 03:24 AM
8

Toxicity? No, you see, they’re women, it’s acceptable. /s
/r/MensRights10/01/22 01:59 PM
1

Maybe that’s their intent.
/r/MensRights09/01/22 06:41 PM
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She is an attractive, relatively young woman, after all. That’s the funny part, she only got away with her lies for so long due in part to her charm, and she gets off more easily when caught as well.
/r/MensRights08/01/22 05:40 PM
1

If it’s ok to say woman surgeon, it’s ok to say man surgeon.
/r/MensRights08/01/22 05:08 PM
4

But you can’t punch up to privileged women. They are still women, after all. Poor souls.
/r/MensRights08/01/22 10:28 AM
6

Perhaps that’s because some women only want to interact with men they can exploit and have sex with.
/r/MensRights08/01/22 10:27 AM
8

For every 100 women that have sex with a man, less than 100 men were involved.
/r/MensRights08/01/22 10:20 AM
4

“Where did you read that?” Here - “I wasn’t being serious, I’m not going to read that…women are the bestuh…”
/r/MensRights08/01/22 10:14 AM
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“Female” surgeons? omg, are you saying they are ANIMALS?! It’s woman surgeons and man surgeons. /s
/r/MensRights08/01/22 05:41 AM
8

Be prepared for people to dismiss this type of analysis because it’s not the entire point of the article. It doesn’t need to be, because propaganda can be subtle. In fact, the some of the most effective propaganda is subtle. That way, the message is more likely to be viewed as something to take for granted as being true, and the speaker can plausibly deny that they have an agenda. Just a side thought, if the filmmakers were gay men or otherwise not attracted to women, would that be non-objectify…
/r/MensRights08/01/22 04:36 AM
35

Unfortunately, in the gender issues sphere, this ban-heavy mindset is partially the result of the status quo realizing the potential consequences of men standing up for themselves. Basically, if men withdraw from society, taxes will need to increase, because men won’t be supporting women and children to the same extent. The status quo doesn’t want that. Even though r/MGTOW was generally more toxic than r/Men’s Rights, it’s not a coincidence they were banned first. And yes, by first, I mean this …
/r/MensRights07/01/22 02:15 AM
1

Read my comment, not my post, again.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 05:23 PM
1

If we’re waiting for people to be biologically/psychologically “mature” - that’s age 25 for most purposes.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 03:39 PM
3

“Women control relationships, they are the gatekeepers…get better radar and/or don’t accept behavior you can see devolving just because he’s well-connected, wealthy, hot, or good in bed.”
/r/MensRights06/01/22 03:36 PM
1

The prospect of sex is the only way most relationships start…so if women control that, they control the relationship, especially when you consider that a man would generally leave a sexless relationship sooner than a woman.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 03:31 PM
1

They both made a mistake, and the one who left is worse. Read my comment again. I already addressed everything else you said.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 03:27 PM
7

What about HIS freedom of speech, that he’s innocent?
/r/MensRights06/01/22 03:26 PM
133

“Providing preferential treatment to men effectively discriminates against women.” “Providing preferential treatment to women is our mission.”
/r/MensRights06/01/22 07:10 AM
15

Wait, it wasn’t already his right to sue?
/r/MensRights06/01/22 07:08 AM
1

It’s just a coincidence that the primary distinction between friendship and a romantic relationship is sex and intimacy… The point is, taking proper precautions, chances are you won’t get pregnant unless you let the guy impregnate you.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 07:05 AM
1

It’s commonly and correctly cited that women are generally more selective than men, and for good reason, throughout evolution. I agree that it would benefit men to be equally as selective, but it’s just not how they are in general.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 04:16 AM
5

We’ve all been in relationships we regret, but to have sex, get pregnant, not use plan B, not get an abortion, not give the child up for adoption, AND it’s all with a significantly sub-optimal partner you chose, who isn’t a long-term fit for you? That is simply lying in the bed you made. To be clear, I acknowledge the myriad examples that don’t fit this narrative (for example, didn’t know they were pregnant soon enough for plan B, or even an abortion in many states, or not being able to afford o…
/r/MensRights06/01/22 03:01 AM
2

Men and women should be treated equally. Sexual harassment and sexual assault are wrong. Men should be able to communicate their feelings and be mature. “Women sexually harassing men is wrong.” …. Man up and stop complaining, you like it!
/r/MensRights06/01/22 12:48 AM
7

It’s meant to protect women, but it breeds resentment and also creates a very dense target for people with ill intentions.
/r/MensRights06/01/22 12:42 AM
2

Her employees and their families, the healthcare entities and patients that were defrauded, the opportunity cost of funding her and not something else…maybe she’ll meet Jeffrey.
/r/MensRights05/01/22 11:37 PM
1

The solution is to punish men who commit similar crimes…not to let EVERYONE off the hook, lol.
/r/MensRights05/01/22 10:36 PM
3

Because she’s a fraud? Even worse, a fraud that was touted as a shining light of women’s achievement…that potentially caused other startups to fail because funding was diverted to her nonsense. Also, she used a fake voice, because you know, all powerful women need to sound like a man. Even if it’s advantageous to do that due to discrimination, it’s still disingenuous, which is apparently her MO. Believe all women.
/r/MensRights05/01/22 10:33 PM
2

That’s despicable. I would say that’s an extreme exception to the way things usually shake out.
/r/MensRights05/01/22 01:16 AM
2

How is he manipulative?
/r/MensRights05/01/22 12:57 AM
2

Do they happen to be relatively wealthy or hung? It happens… That’s part of the explanation why some women will settle for what appears to be a mismatch in looks, but it’s offset. Like I said, it’s all a negotiation.
/r/MensRights05/01/22 12:55 AM
2

Wow, I thought it was understood that hyperbolic death threats against a specific gender were wrong, but hey, you learn something new every day.
/r/MensRights04/01/22 08:00 AM
27

Don’t expect anyone to think logically or to behave reasonably. We have become increasingly aware as a society that life is a negotiation, and rules only exist to the extent you aren’t able to influence and persuade your way out of their enforcement. Who you associate with is among the greatest contributing factors in your life outcome. The surest way to a secure life (enough money to afford to live comfortably, including the peace of mind of being able to afford great healthcare) is to be born …
/r/MensRights04/01/22 06:51 AM
6

This is similar to how it would have been more precise to add one word to “Black Lives Matter (Too)”. We would have avoided the “All Lives Matter” retort to the extent that people genuinely used it. I’m a fan of maximizing harmony by being mindful of potential misinterpretations, even if the precise phrasing gets less attention than clickbait. Threads like these are some of my favorites, because this it what it takes to be right; one can’t even count on facts or very tame opinion to prevent thei…
/r/MensRights04/01/22 05:06 AM
11

It’s taken me several years, but I’ve become much better at neutering my speech as to minimize opportunities for people like that to “win” the argument by getting off track. Don’t swear, use their preferred terminology, speak in an even tone, don’t take the bait when they get snarky, don’t use hyperbole, etc. I would say Jordan Peterson is a near perfect example of keeping cool, calm and collected under pressure, while making sure to prioritize pursuing a shared understanding instead of a “win”.…
/r/MensRights03/01/22 09:12 PM
32

Be prepared for them to disingenuously claim that two things must be 100% identical in order for a point to be made by comparing them in any way.
/r/MensRights03/01/22 08:57 AM
12

Incel should be a term that garners concern, not condemnation. Unless an individual expresses support for violence, the public shouldn’t judge how jaded they are.
/r/MensRights03/01/22 08:55 AM
4

Yes, which necessitates being a misogynist and advocating for violence, apparently…because, you know, groups are a monolith.
/r/MensRights01/01/22 11:00 PM
1

Yeah, what are you not going to blindly defend women when they perpetuate unfair stereotypes against men while pretending to be against stereotypes? - You incel.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 10:42 PM
5

Here’s the thing, if you have a legitimate grievance, it’s not your responsibility to suppress your response beyond ensuring you obey the law. Even if you have an annoying voice, or you are repetitive, it doesn’t matter. If you are right, you are right. Don’t allow anyone to poke holes in your style points in an attempt to discredit your legitimate grievances.
/r/MensRights28/12/21 10:35 PM
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