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Then it's a win win situation because I got what I wanted and he chose to "settle" with me. I can't take you seriously when you say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:51 AM
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Never said that at all. I said a person who is reactive is less likely to initiate. Also I don’t think most people get turned on by “giving affection” rather I think people give the affection because they are already turned on. A reactive person may be very affectionate especially once they are turned on regardless of who initiated intimacy What you're describing sounds like selfishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:31 AM
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I don't think we read the same blog article.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:29 AM
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Conservatism is support of the status quo, or caution about changing it. Right-wing ideology, which includes traditionalism in many ways, is only conservative if the status quo aligns with their ideology. If it doesn't, they want radical change.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 09:07 PM
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I'd disagree with that. There's a difference between conservatism (which RP technically is) and right-wing/traditionalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 09:01 PM
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That doesn’t make sense. If you are reactive you are far less likely to approach. So giving affection is a turn off for people with reactive desire? Doesn't sound like love or intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:49 PM
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Given that people who are blacked out don't always look blacked out to an outside observer, I'd say that'd be hard to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:38 PM
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It's all on topic here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:38 PM
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Most of you guys problem isn't your looks. It's the fact that you don't even like yourself. How do you think anyone else is supposed to like you? If you're attractive people will get with you no matter your damage. Not everyone was raised in a way that they can form attachments in the way that most women like. Given your answer, that basically amounts to "You are irrevocably damaged, you don't deserve to have a partner, just pay taxes and support the people who do matter so they can be happy." I…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 05:37 PM
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Okay then why did you respond to my comment because I never said that? It's the topic of the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 05:34 PM
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Not what I said. Re-read my post and try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 05:33 PM
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I got a man who understands the consequences of irresponsible spending and knows that money doesn't grow on trees. Ok, but what if he just thought you weren't a high-enough caliber woman to justify fun trips, or thought that your job was to be a mother for his children and not to enjoy life? That's closer to the situation described.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:50 PM
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What? So women who have a baby shouldn’t be in a relationship? Women who go through a hormone balance shouldn’t be in a relationship? Women who have major illnesses or experience accidents shouldn’t be? Everyone goes through periods in their life where they aren’t DRF all the time. You sound 19 lmao. I'm not talking about periods I'm talking about a sea change in life. All I know is if a 35 year old man leaves his whole ass family because his wife doesn’t want to have 2 hour sessions with wipe, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:48 PM
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Because certain reasons imply she doesn't give a shit about you. Others don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:45 PM
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No, but I never said it was. Other guys have their ken criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:15 AM
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No. I'm a man, I know they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:14 AM
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Plenty of women get made more sexist by the internet too, go look at FDS or whatever. Also a 10 year age gap is pretty normal from what I see around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:10 AM
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Anyway, back to the main point that women have much more stringent physical requirements to experience attraction/love/intimacy than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:37 AM
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Irrelevant to the point that the woman in question is not attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:18 AM
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Because she generally finds sex with him to be a chore, and gives more emotional intimacy and warmth to other people, and is likely to initiate divorce with the guy she settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:14 AM
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Women do shitty things. But “the Ick” isn’t deliberately shitty. Not deliberately, but it can still be a sign of a broken moral compass and being a generally shitty human being. The alternative is forcing themselves to go through the motions of sex they don’t want to have for whatever reason, and no one needs a reason to decline sex. It's still reasonable to judge someone for what they're attracted to. I don’t understand why women would be concerned about a man being formerly overweight, but bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:12 AM
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And a lot of "normal" appearing women see their husbands as atms and not full human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:46 AM
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Pick a sex act you do enjoy then. It's not the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:45 AM
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Definitely can’t imagine anyone making those claims. Cool. It's what I got from multiple female "friends" over the situation (the second time, at least.) I understand you have a mental block that prevents you from entertaining the idea that women ever do anything shitty they should be judged for, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:42 AM
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Yeah, no. People grow up and lose interest in that kind of stuff. If you lose interest in intimacy then you shouldn't be in a relationship. If a man wants to pressure a woman into doing things she has no interest in doing he’s treating her like a prostitute not a romantic partner. No one said anything about pressuring, and sexually adventurous women aren't prostitutes so get that bullshit outta here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:14 AM
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Really? Not the "those womens' ick should be respected, and you have no right to judge them. But male criticisms of female bodies are always unjustified and misogynistic"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:13 AM
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Not really, no. The difference is a guy is still attracted to the "marriage material" woman, the woman is not attracted to the guy she settles for.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:09 AM
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What do you mean "a lot more"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:56 AM
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Yes and yes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:46 AM
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Why would you assume it's because they love you less? Because you and your partner both use sex as an expression of love and intimacy. Why wouldn't you assume it's because they didn't like it? Why wouldn't you ask them why? if you don't believe their reason why are you with them if you think they lie? I'm describing this in a circumstance where her answer is something like "I'm a mom/wife now I don't do that" "that was in my fun loving experimental phase" etc. Essentially saying that you aren't …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:43 AM
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You're right - unless evidence gets fabricated. But that can happen no matter what you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:38 AM
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No, you misunderstand - it wasn't anything physical. These women had already had sex with me. I have stretch marks but they're not super obvious because I lost the weight when I was still young. It's them finding out that I used to be very overweight; that knowledge was enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:36 AM
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All humans are flawed. This is trivially true. If women who fall for a PUA have qualms, it’s nothing more than the fear that he’s faking a persona and will behave as his old self once the shine wears off. Yes, it's exactly like the women who kicked me out of bed when they found out that I used to be very overweight. Some people are just rotten and deserve to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:21 AM
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Guys get the "your sexuality is evil and dangerous and you aren't worth protecting" talk from their moms lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:09 AM
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But wouldn't that be true of the guy too?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:07 AM
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Police don't need to get involved for a guy to get fired, expelled from school, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:06 AM
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You know that love isn't finite right? Yeah it is. We only get so many years on this planet. Like your partner could have genuinely really loved someone before but still genuinely really love you. I'm not arguing that. Why do you want your partner to get the ick when discussing sex with you at all? You're going off on a tangent that's not relevant. Let's say you know. Your partner told you when they were drunk. Who knows. I agree that it's weird to interrogate them but this stuff comes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:04 AM
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Except you'll see every guy as a manipulative sleazeball.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:02 AM
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I'd be interested to see those stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:00 AM
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It's not debunked. Match group tried to discredit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 01:00 AM
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Fundamentally what we're dancing around here is that there are many women, including OP, who see stopping other women from having sex as a win.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:57 AM
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No, it's the fear that the man in question wasn'y born perfect with no flaws. The idea that he grew and learned is disgustin to some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:54 AM
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You can’t be attractive and a misogynist to most women and overwhelming majority of them wouldn’t have sex with one. This is incorrect. Men who display benevolent sexism are the most attractive to women, followed by men who display stereotypical misogyny, with men who display neither coming in last place. Stop giving men bad advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:52 AM
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Sex and intimacy can be linked if there is trust and emotional connection beyond sex. You can be super kinky and have zero emotional connection and you can have straight mission sex that is super deep and emotionally fulfilling. Keeping a checklist to compare sex acts with previous partners is based in insecurity not intimacy. There is literally no good reason to do it. You should be able to tell if your fulfilled without having to compare yourself to other people, not being able to is weird. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:45 AM
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Women care about things that will make a lasting impact on the quality of their life and the lives of their future children. Oh fuck no. There are women who pimp out their daughters to feed their heroin addiction. That's an extreme example, but women can be just as selfish, petty, and shortsighted as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:38 AM
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My experience is that most men don’t want to, don’t know how to, or just plain don’t, cook. Really? My experience is that it's women who don't like to because they think people should be cooking for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:37 AM
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A lot of that is lifestyle creep though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:43 PM
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But why would her happiness change based on whether or not he had done it with someone else previously. How is it any better or worse for her given that? Because people care about being treated fairly. That's how our mirror neurons work. If you have a fulfilling relationship with someone you care about not getting your every sexual desire met is probably not going to matter all that much because just having good sex is good. It's very easy for that relationship to not become fulfilling if you fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:32 PM
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While individual sex acts aren't part of that, if a woman isn't willing to experiment and have fun with her partner than she doesn't love him or care about him as a human, but rather a source of resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:14 PM
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People? You mean men, right? Because when women are victims they deserve validation?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:54 PM
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Given that what you're willing to do in bed is a big signifier of how open and intimate someone is with someone else, it can be a red flag. I would say the same thing to a woman who wants rougher/kinkier sex and her current partner isn't willing to go there but did so with previous partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:52 PM
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Depends on if she stopped doing those things because she doesn't like them or if it's because she will only be openly sexual with a group of people that doesn't include you. If it's the former it's fine. "Tried anal, didn't really like it at all, not interested" is a pretty reasonable thing to have happen imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:50 PM
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I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:46 PM
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Untrue, but even if it was it'd be irrelevant to my point. If a woman has lost affection for her male partner she will frequently ridicule his attempts to win her back and find them pathetic; I know a relationship where the wife lost attraction to her husband because he wasn't as tall, attractive, or wealthy as her friends' male partners and she felt inadequate. When she started criticizing him for not helping around the house, he started doing it, and then she started shaming him for being too …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:33 PM
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Doesn't disprove my appoint. Sexual attraction is one of the key signals for guys that their female partner is still in love with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:19 PM
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Someone who doesn't love their partner and is going through the motions until the kids leave home/they find someone better or something like that? Fairly normal, why do you need an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 09:42 PM
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I've known it to happen plenty often.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 09:12 PM
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Aight. That tells me that women would have spontaneous desire if they had beer googles on, therefore their sexuality is not truly reactive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 09:12 PM
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It’a not dehumanizing to bring up the fact that people are different. People are not that different. If a woman doesn't feel spontaneous desire for her male partner, she's not sexually attracted to him. Sure, she might become excited by the validation of being pursued, but she doesn't actually care about him - and she won't pursue him, because she thinks he doesn't deserve it. If it were truly about a type of sexuality, women would be pursuing men trying to trip their reactive desire all the tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 09:11 PM
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Nah, it happens to people with a decent frequency. Since sexual attraction is closely linked to affection and love, if a woman is less into you sexually than her previous partners it's a reasonable thing to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 09:07 PM
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No, the worry is that she actually loves you less than the people before you. Which is a reasonable worry.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 09:04 PM
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90% of people you could term as losers make their own beds Found the right-winger lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 09:00 PM
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That's great! But it does make you unusual among women. Guys aren't going to have the same experience with most of the women they date or enter relationships with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:57 PM
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What does me being young have to do with me being willing to provide support to my partner? More just that you haven't had the chance to see your male peers and friends experience this yet. Assuming that I’ll somehow provide more support to my female friends because they are female is just rude. The in-group bias of women and girls is pretty well documented.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:46 PM
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You’re seeing this very black and white, as if it’s either I’m there to fix all of his issues or I’m disloyal and cruel. Not what I mean. Of course a professional is required for serious mental health issues, but as you're still relatively young, there's something guys pick up on as they get older - that their female partners have time to help out their female friends, be a sounding board, give emotional support, etc, but they never seem to have the skills or effort for their male partners. This…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:40 PM
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It works different for us. Unless you're actually physically attracted to the guy. Your comment just reinforces the idea thst most women find most men to be repulsive, despite your disclaimer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:53 PM
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You didn't answer my question. It seeks you got nothing lmao. Typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:21 PM
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Nope. Have you considered that the multiple studies uou linked which didn't support what you claimed they did means you were off base on this issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:14 PM
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But if he’s self-harming, or extremely depressed, or having thoughts of suicide, why is the expectation that I, a woman who has zero professional training in the field of mental health, have to be the one to be there for him in the capacity of a professional? Because a therapist can't fix a shitty life situation, and if a guy has to keep his negativity bottled up around the person he's supposed to be closest too, while she's open about her life struggles with him, it will make him feel lonely an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:11 PM
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Can you give me an actual example of a person who is female sending men to war. Margaret Thatcher. I don’t really see woman as a group in support of war or violence on the whole, and most of the leaders engaging in said violence are men. Ah. So yoy're starting from a "women are good, men are bad" ideology. It's not accurate and it's rotten-hearted and bigoted on your part. It’s just a very poor argument, considering that men engaging in less violence would benefit women the most. What kind of se…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:00 PM
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Not any more than society/men have set the baseline for which has shifted over time. No. There is no illuminati council of men which set up society. Can you link to whatever part/piece of her work that relates to this? It's in her book on shame. Do you want an excerpt? Please feel free to give me some examples you have of when I would do this. Female friend loses parent: hours and hours of consoling and help and an understanding that it's going tontake time for them to be ok. Male partner loses …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:55 PM
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I love calling other women insane. Not as much as you like calling men lazy and worthless. And no, you're wrong. With rrspect to childcare this idea is called "maternal gatekeeping" and is recognized, though it's not considered ok to talk about it because it involves saying that women are sometimes the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:51 PM
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If there's systemic bias against men it's the mediators that treat men fairly that would be punished.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:49 PM
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Eh, I find the female only subs depressing. It drives home the idea that "nice" women are dishonest and that women find most men repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:47 PM
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Women send men to war too. Sorry, you're just as culpable if we're doing the collective guily thing. Enough with the misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:39 PM
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Wrong. The vast majority of women do, at least from their partners. Brené Brown's work backs this up. The same thing you'd call "trauma dumping" from a male partner would be something you'd give unflsgging support to one of your female friends for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:37 PM
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The issue is if your female friend was experiencing ehat your partner was you'd give her support instead of kicking her to a therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:33 PM
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Except the "weaponized incompetence" is about things like not knowing that your partner wants the endge of the toilet paper folded.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:27 PM
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I did read your source, in far more depth than you did. Link to the part of your source that says that fathers and mothers are treated equally in custody disputes? Because last time you quoted something that had nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:26 PM
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You did not. You showed sources that failed to show that and then pretended they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:08 PM
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No, because you think that men are morally inferior to women and that fathers don't deserve access to their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:47 PM
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Provide a source that says men have equal chances in family court at maintaining access to their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:46 PM
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Most women will tell you how they want things. No, hence the "he should just know" "unfair emotional labor" kind of discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:41 PM
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Your source never made the claim you said it did. I don't have to provide a source to say that your source is meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:40 PM
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I've never heard a woman say they're owed sexual favours for contributing to the family finances but I've heard plenty of men say that. Ok. Your perceptions are likely fairly slanted due to your misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:39 PM
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You're not even making sense. Take a try at that comment again.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:39 PM
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You're the one making the claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:38 PM
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No, it's a matter of what you wish you were doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:37 PM
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No, I know that sometimes you have to push yourself to the limit, physically, to get a task done. Again, this "weaponized incompetence" is oftentimes just a way to denigrate men or punish them for not reading a woman's mind and doing a task exactly the way she wanted to do it without being informed of how she wants it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:06 PM
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I'm sorry for your children that you hate them. I can't imagine choosing labor over spending time with my family.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:03 PM
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It's more than my opinion, the repeated failure to provide evidence to support the idea that custody is fair on your part tells me that your belief in it has to do with ideology/misandry rather than a commitment to truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:03 PM
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What evidence do you have that the mediation's fair?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:02 PM
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Honestly, all of that sounds toxic and supports my whole point that men feel like they're owed sex for the most mundane accomplishments. No it doesn't. This is women saying it. Why is it that when women are shitty you think men deserve to be punished? I work full time and I have contributed the vast majority to our mutual savings. Am I allowed to tell my husband I deserve to use a strap-on on him because I outearned him? According to these women, yeah, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:02 PM
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I feel so sorry for your husband and any sons you may have. I hope they find the courage to leave a family environment with someone who hates them for their genitalia.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:01 PM
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Conflict and arguing over money, incompatibility over the man not earning enough, and infidelity due to the female partner not respecting the male partner if he doesn't earn enough all seem plausible to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:29 PM
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Uh huh. How are your joints after framing compared to childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:27 PM
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Cool! You're an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:26 PM
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I mean the sources you linked showed that mothers overwhelmingly had custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:26 PM
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It looks like the source doesn't say what you want it to say. On this topic in particular, I keep running in to this issue. I don't believe you that the custody system treats fathers fairly and you haven't presented evidence to sway me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:25 PM
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It's such a general statement detached from reality there's no proving or disproving it. You hate men, I get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:23 PM
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I haven't seen conclusive evidence of that. I do know those relationships are unstable. I've also heard interviews with breadwinning women who have the attitude of "What, I'm working all day and he expects me to come home and suck his dick?" If a guy said "I'm the breadwinner so I won't do oral" what would you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:22 PM
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There's no reason. Feminism gives women all the benefits of traditionalism but none of the responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:00 AM
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A pity women won't take it then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:59 AM
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Nobody was indicting a sole-breadwinner husband for doing less childcare than his SAHM wife. That would be silly. Let me introduce you to feminists...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:58 AM
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Because generally men seem to overplay how much they do around the home and women underplay it because it’s ‘automatic’. I see the reverse. Do you have data to this effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:57 AM
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Sounds like more men should be fighting to be SAHP then instead of waiting on women to make it happen. Why? Men are disposable and women will divorce them if they aren't the breadwinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:53 AM
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What kind of construction work have you done lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:52 AM
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Almost like women are full of shit when they say that...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:49 AM
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For the same reason a woman tells a man who needs help to go to a therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:49 AM
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Majority of women leave husbands because they don't do enough of the work. Nope. Majority of divorces are due to the man not earning enough money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:47 AM
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I had to show an ex girlfriend how to scrub out a shower. She still would avoid doing it because it's "icky." She'd rather take a shower in there but never clean it (or pull her hair out of the drain).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:46 AM
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Except every workplace has women who use weaponized incompetence to avoid dealing with things like taking out the trash, lifting anything heavy, and things like that. If a guy starts doing work around the house, many women will immediately start nitpicking and saying he's doing it wrong, regardless of how he does it, to assert control over the home space (ditto with childcare). Then they will complain about the man not doing his share, but they'll attack and shame him if he does. The point is to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:46 AM
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The data isn't really there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:41 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:41 AM
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Again, provide the source. For what, exactly? You still haven't provided anything to back up your claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:38 AM
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Untrue, but regardless, in the part of the study you quoted here it doesn't say it's voluntary.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 03:38 AM
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No I am not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:02 PM
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Then read the sources I sent you. I've gone into more detail on them than you. Every time we get into this and it turns out the sources don't say what the anti-male poster wants them to say they end up blocking me rather than copping to it. Also, men threaten and do ruin women's lives all the time during divorces and custody agreemenrs that's not a gender issue. It still is if the courts are biased against men, and I think the evidence is there for that, though that's technically beyond the boun…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:00 PM
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That's one of the times a court order is required, sure, but it's not the only time, so you claiming that parents with a written agreement for their children haven't gone to court is just incorrect, so you still haven't shown that men get custody the majority of the time when they want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:59 PM
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Most of the times when women engage in hook ups they are drunk or on drugs ie uninhibited. Citation?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:28 PM
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When women say we don't want to be someone's therapist, what we mean is that it isn't healthy to expect us to be the only person that you go to with emotional difficulty. No, what they mean is that they view a man's job as being an emotional provider who supports his female partner, and that if he needs support like a woman does he should be attacked and shamed. You can be emotional without trauma dumping all over your partner all the time. You definitely can - but many women will see a man and …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:27 PM
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Um again that’s a problem of misunderstanding sexuality. No it's not. If a partner is unwilling to put forth the effort to make their partner feel loved and feel that intimate connection, their partner is not going to feel good about that. Stop trying to tell people to be ok with it; it's dehumanizing. If you understand that some people’s sexuality is just more responsive you don’t have to take it so personal when your partner isn’t randomly horny all the time It's guaranteed to be personal, bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:25 PM
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So could yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:25 PM
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Written agreements aren't necessarily a case of parents not having gone to court; I'm reading the source that statement pulls from and it doesn't say that. In fact, it says that agreements can be formalized in writing by a court order.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:18 PM
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That’s not true many women think sexual desire should be spontaneous many people in general think this. Women have spontaneous desire for people they're actually attracted to. See all the comments saying that sexual desire that isn’t spontaneous isn’t “real”. It kinda isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:18 PM
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Except, again, we find men are more likely to get custody when they actually apply for it. Haven't seen those stats. Additionally, most custody cases are agreed to in mediation and amicably. "Give me custody or I will ruin your life because I know I don't love you but you still love me" is not really amicable, and I've seen that happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:01 PM
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Where does it say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:01 PM
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What are you trying to claim with that? It still says that women have custody more often than men in the paragraph you quoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:49 PM
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Men used to have it, then women had it, and that's been slightly ameliorated now but it's still primarily women who have it, as fathers are considered disposable and expendable by the courts and feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:48 PM
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What is your link supposed to show? All I see is it showing that mothers have custody most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:57 PM
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I'm not interested in answering that question unless you lay your cards on the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:56 PM
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I'd love to see your sources because Stat Can ( a nationwide mandatory survey) can literally pinpoint this statistic to a T. Could you link to the survey data and methodology?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:08 PM
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I'm not interested in answering that question unless you lay your cards on the table. Technically, I already answered the "why" part.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:06 PM
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I was told that by my own family to when my depression got too much for them to handle. That sucks, but it happens to men way more because our emotions are treated as inconsequential far more often. There is a difference between having an emotional moment and constantly being emotional where it’s showing signs of mental unwellness that requires professional help. Irrelevant to my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:01 PM
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And despite all these laws, men are still more likely to be granted custody when they actually apply for it. Every time we go back to the actual statistics on this issue, it turns out not to be true. But feminist groups point it out constantly because it fits the whole "men are evil and lazy" narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:01 PM
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Tell me what you think is the case instead of asking rhetorical questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:00 PM
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Womens' groups fight for women to get default custody. Any time it's not is in spite of them, not because of them. Women disproportionately don't pay child support or alimony, and are less likely to be punished when "deadbeat."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:07 PM
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Google "i am not your therapist" and get back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:50 PM
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Because it would be good for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:49 PM
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Men are better at conflict resolution than women are - they shake hands and make up after conflict much more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:22 PM
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Feminists despise and punish male vulnerability more than almost any other group.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:17 PM
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No, the Tender Years Doctrine was set up by womens' activists.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:15 PM
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Women fought for the current divorce/custody system.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:14 PM
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You keep insisting that fathers who want custody get it but that's a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:13 PM
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But if there's a divorce they are still likely to be extorted, shamed, or harassed out of being an involved father.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:13 PM
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I'm sorry your dad was a deadbeat but don't take it out on the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:12 PM
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This statement is entirely unsupported and motivated by hatred of men and fatherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:11 PM
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So does feminism. When men are emotional it's putting "unfair emotional labor" on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:09 PM
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If this is a common occurence, that’s a red flag. How about not being around women who don’t think men shouldn’t be vulnerable. Then you agree that you and other feminists should not be dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:07 PM
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No, when women that they are not judged.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:07 PM
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The issue is women freaking out about men being "wimpy" as you say but then demanding space for themselves to act the same way. It's hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 06:05 PM
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Nobody should, they're fucked up and serve to make money for the app companies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:50 PM
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If a "single" woman had to actually stop having random hookups while single, like all my single female acquaintances do, they'd be depressed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:46 PM
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Women would understand more that it’s okay to go for it without necessarily being in the mood knowing that they can get in the mood with some foreplay Women already know this. They just think that sex with their partners is often not worth it because they're not actually attracted to their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:31 PM
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Yes that is because they don’t understand these concepts. No it's because the "receptive" partner is putting less effort into intimacy than the "spontaneous" partner and making them feel unloved.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:28 PM
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It shouldn’t be. That’s the point. Telling guys their emotions are WRONG and they just DON'T MATTER as human beings compared to women is not going to fly well, and it shouldnt'.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:26 PM
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It all makes sense actually sex isn’t as likely to be pleasurable for women as it is for men (see orgasm gap, sex can also be painful for women) so how are women expected to anticipate pleasure when it’s not as much of a given? No, women do enjoy sex. That is why as a man you start with giving pleasure so that she can actually get turned on. If she only gets turned on when pursued and given validation for how sexy she is, and refuses to do that for her partner, she's just selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:24 PM
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We read it, but we also know that women have spontaneous desire for men they're actually attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:23 PM
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Well when she refuses to do that herself it lets you know something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:21 PM
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Inhibition would be more likely to keep someone from engaging in casual sex but it’s also likely to keep someone from cheating. Pick your poison. No. There are plenty of people who don't cheat who have spontaneous desire. This is just a newspeak way of saying "sexual woman = bad, nonsexual woman = good"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:19 PM
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They usually settle for mister good enough and grow to love them for their personality as a result. In my experience they usually grow to hate the for not being the guy they wanted to pursue them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:17 PM
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I think it’s hard to cultivate desire that you don’t have. The idea here I guess would be that the partner with spontaneous desire is motivated to seduce the partner with responsive desire. Except if you constantly have to do the chasing and there's no reciprocation you're going to give up, eventually, and the "receptive" (read: selfish) partner deserves to be alone in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:16 PM
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I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:14 PM
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It's not like women with reactive desire are more likely to cultivate desire in their male partners; they're less likely too. So it's clear women see it as a chore too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:45 PM
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Women have spontaneous desire for men they're actually attracted to. We're dancing around the fact that most women are not actually attracted to their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:42 PM
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What about women who complain about dead bedrooms? I have a sneaking suspicion you'd sing a different tune...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:41 PM
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Okay let’s do that. Amy had zero business approaching a man who was minding his own business and behaving exactly as people do in a nature preserve. She had no reason whatsoever to talk to or interfere with a stranger. That's not how it happened, though - she was breaking the rules, and when she got called out on it she threatened him with violence. Neither did the man who startled the blond in OP’s video. Moral of the story is leave people the fuck alone unless they want to interact with you. N…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:58 PM
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No it's not. How can it be fatalism if I want a problem (virgin shaming) to be acknowledged and then solved? It can't be. And incel memes is such a vague term that it could be applied to the person I'm arguing against as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:50 PM
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If a woman has a serious disease which affects her life so she needs somebody to take care of her or if it's a deadly disease, the chances that man will leave her in such state are way heighter then if a man had it. Nope, there's no science behind this. The study that claimed it was retracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:49 PM
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or you've confused "emotional connection" with "trauma dumping"."trauma dumping" is for therapists. you don't trauma dump on your friends/SO etc. When a guy does it, it's "trauma dumping." When a woman says the same thing, it's being "emotionally open." biggest turn off for me is being used as a free therapist. I pay for my own therapist already. i recommend everyone get one when they can. Huge turn off for me is when a female partner demands space for her emotions but gets angry and starts usin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:46 PM
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How are we defining that? It looks like it's coming down to people not liking my arguments. I'm not an incel, I've never identified as an incel, I'm just against virgin shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:45 PM
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I’m trying to imagine the world in which rejection is a bigger fear and more emotionally devastating than violence. They don't have to be mutually exclusive. Look at what Amy Cooper tried to do to Christian Cooper, and he wasn't even hitting on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:10 AM
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Well it depends how you are going about it. Victim blaming. You should acknowledge that most women think a guy being a virgin is a moral failing on his part.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:37 AM
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Because most women don't truly love their male partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:28 AM
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I don't have one. I'd sacrifice my life for a kid though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:28 AM
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researchgate.net
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:27 AM
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A couple things to point out. Women don't have higher physical, or monetary standards than they used to. The only standard that has changed is that they want men to be more empathetic of the female disposition( rightfully so). Citation?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:17 AM
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Men have more empathy for women than the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:17 AM
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Why wouldn't you assume that the person in question cheated because they were an unethical person?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:12 AM
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Women lose attraction to men who consistently take more than they give in a LTR / marriage. It’s really that simple. In my experience they lose attraction to men who give more than they take.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:12 AM
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Men are less homophobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:09 AM
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Those articles don't really reflect reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:08 AM
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More emotional labor is expected of men in relationships than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:08 AM
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It doesn’t matter if it was benign or not. If a woman with an infant in a parking lot doesn’t want to talk to a strange man doing strange things, there isn’t any social convention which requires her to interact with him at all. Sure, but she doesn't need to treat him like a rape demon just for existing. Goddamn why can’t men just leave women alone if women don’t want to talk with them? Because they're human beings and they're allowed to participate in society in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:06 PM
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So long as weird men stake out places of businesses in order to corner women, there will be women who whip out their phone and expose those men. This video isn’t very good because she had her hands full and didn’t record the incident. Or. more likely, his reason for approaching her was entirely benign and it would have denied her the attention she was craving. But there are thousands of videos all over social media of creepy, aggressive men doing creepy, aggressive things to lone women. Yeah, li…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 06:08 PM
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No, that's why many guys have come the realization that women don't deserver honesty/vulnerability/openness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 06:06 PM
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That sounds like a toxic person in an emotionally abusive relationship, not a healthy one and certainly not representative of all women in relationships. It's very, very common. The woman in question will take out a lot of her resentment about the more attractive guys on the more agreeable guy, because she knows he's less likely to leave her. And she'll hate him for not being that high-status guy that makes her look good, and refusing to admit that she needed someone to provide for her and he's …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:22 AM
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If you can’t understand the value of intimacy and meaningful romantic connection The issue is that the "boyfriend material" guy isn't getting actual intimacy and meaningful romantic connection; that was given to the "fun guys." The "boyfriend material" guy will be shamed and denigrated for showing emotional weakness by his female partner, because his job is to provide, not provide her with intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:17 AM
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Uh... no.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:15 AM
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A woman who enjoys wild sex with a "fun guy" craves "boyfriend material" to be just as wild. In my experience, no. They will shame and ridicule the "boyfriend material" for wanting fun sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:14 AM
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No, it's because women tend to seize control of the couple's partner networks after the relationship has gone on long enough, and demand their partner only open up to them. There are many women who will take hours and hours to help their female friends and family with the littlest things but as soon as their male partner has an issue he's getting attacked and shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:09 AM
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Unfortunately, a lot of guys have the experience that women only care for sick male partners begrudgingly, and if it happens too often they lose attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:08 AM
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They both enjoyed themselves as long as they wanted. Both settle down when they want to settle down and with the person they have chosen for a relationship. I think the idea is that the man in question didn't get the chance to enjoy himself as much as he wanted and isn't going to get a wife who's invested in making the bedroom fun for both of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:06 AM
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It's fear porn. It generates clicks and interest at the expense of men's well-being.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 06:53 AM
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A woman won't leave a man she loves for an emotional roller coaster. Well, she shouldn't. Some women (and men) have fucked up priorities. But I responding to /u/ATasteofTx214 implying they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:17 AM
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A "bad boy" or "hot crazy chick" is a vacation. I don't think less of my home for not being an island resort; it's two completely different experiences. Same with relationships. Why is that so offensive? Because you're saying that the "bad boy" is more attractive than he'll ever be, and he should accept that his partner would drop him in a second if she could actually get the "bad boy" locked down. What's more seduction has a lot to do with how receptive the recipient of seduction is. There's a …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 12:25 AM
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No, too invasive, even if I would like to see anybody who fucks around like that get theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 12:03 AM
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No, the point is that if you have a society in which the men are expected to put their lives on the line to defend it, but the women are not, it's going to be hard to incentivize men to think of the woman as equals. Humans have mirror neurons that help them determine if something is fair; if yours are broken, that's one thing, but any normal person could look at women hanging out in France while their brother is getting shot at by vatniks to be an unfair situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:54 PM
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Are women likely to try to coerce sex acts? Pretty much just as likely as men, honestly. To stealth? The female equivalent of this would be "forgetting" to take birth control, and yeah it happens. To get men pregnant? You mean to get pregnant? To prevent an orgasm because she’s selfish and terrible in bed? Women can be just as selfish and terrible towards men in bed. What, exactly, do men have to fear from the average women other than the embarrassment of rejection? Violence by proxy, a la Emmet…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:52 PM
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There's no accountability in modmail since it's not public.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:49 PM
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Nah, the halo effect and bias towards attractive people (for both men and women) is real. Do you think it's one of those truths that cannot be stated or do you think it's untrue?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:11 PM
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It is not easier to get male attention from trustworthy men women are attracted to. Women are just as likely to be untrustworthy, so it goes back to the fact that in this arena women have it easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:09 PM
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she made you wait for sex as a vetting strategy to see if you’re the “right guy”. That's because waiting for sex typically isn't a vetting strategy, it's a manipulation strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:20 PM
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Do you understand my last post?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:34 AM
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Personal experiences. How have you experienced this phenomenon? I’m not talking about what you’ve heard or what the RP believe. You said it was your experience so please explain how. Exactly what I said. I've seen both of those things, the latter many, many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 08:23 AM
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No. You post in enough threads saying enough things worth criticizing that you get more than one reply from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 08:23 AM
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Not my fault you can't follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:35 AM
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Like older women who tell younger women they're idiots for getting with the men in question, or dragging their male partner to their face and trying to disrupt their relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:35 AM
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Males love being disingenuous and purposefully obtuse. Wow, such bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:06 AM
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Not every 52 year old man is a piece of shit. Weird how you'd assume that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:03 AM
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It's also probably because men run fewer physical risks from sex. Women can get HPV (leads to cervical cancer) from sex. Guys can get oral cancer from eating too much pussy if their partner has HPV.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:00 AM
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Of course not don't be ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:59 AM
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This is about emotional intelligence, emotional maturity and experience. Of course older women don’t see younger women as “little children”. We do see them as very vulnerable where men are concerned, but definitely not like children in all areas of life. In my experience many older women see younger women as competition, and try to shame men who pursue them and shame them out of engaging in sexual activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:59 AM
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Women who don’t think that younger adults are fully adults The issue is that most people see it differently depending on the sex of the person in question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:58 AM
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Because men are never victims?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 09:07 PM
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I mean, I'm a guy. We're used to having everyone blame societal problems on us as individuals; I don't know why people get mad when we do it back.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:59 PM
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The point is that your so-called "intergenerational trauma" is really that "men aren't shit" discrimination, and the people to blame for that are alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:53 PM
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Nope. The average man does more each week for the household than his female partner. Look up the American Time Use Survey.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:50 PM
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Compared to the unexamined life of an extrovert? Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:55 AM
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The problem isn’t the lack of time. The problem is the lack of money. If he’s working 60, cannot do any chores himself, won’t get a better paying job and can’t afford to buy her out of even 5 hours a week to make things equitable, his wife will reasonably resent him. I don't think you understand. The point is, the wife in that situation will resent him no matter what he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 11:11 PM
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They do, but once you meet a person, you can usually tell the difference. There are always exceptions. There are women who went a little wild in their youth who aren't settling when they hit the wall, they're stopping listening to peer pressure and focusing on how they want to live their life. There are women with a low n-count who are incredibly unempathetic and incapable of forming meaningful bonds with sex partners. It just depends, and I wouldn't say a high n-count is a dealbreaker, but it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:54 PM
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I agree. Just pointing out the process of getting a physical includes that, at least for guys. It's to check for hernias (which men are more prone to).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:09 PM
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How is women living in NYC not needing a man you being mistreated. Where do you somehow being mistreated come in to this? I'm not saying it is. I'm saying if I was mistreated, I'd blame the people who were actually doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:02 PM
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If he’s working 60 hours and she still needs to work a full 40 to keep the lights on, something needs to change financially. More likely it's "He's working 60 because that's what his job demands right now, and she married him in part because of his ability to provide through that job, and she works full time as a lot of people do, but she's going to react negatively to him moving to a job that makes less money and has more flexibility, up to and including divorce, but she'll still shame him for …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:01 PM
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You said "blame your great grandfathers" for that one. And no, if I'm being mistreated I'll blame the people who are doing it here and now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:42 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:32 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:31 PM
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Which one of these is the shortest?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:28 PM
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In a regular physical sure, but some wavier checkbox sports physical to play at school? When I got a physical for high school sports, that happened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:24 PM
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Nah, I wrestled in high school. But I don't come here for the help dating, I just like to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:27 PM
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Ok, if you're defining it that way then vulnerability isn't something to worry about since it doesn't actually mean danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:24 PM
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maybe she is insecure that you'd leave after getting sex from her Then her insecurity is poisoning the relationship and she needs to go to therapy before she dates again.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:21 PM
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You and her ex are literally different people. I don't understand guys' frustration that women aren't just copy/pasting sex from one man to the next. There could be a million different reasons why she's saying it's different Sure, you can treat people differently. But if you treat them differently expect them to take it differently. Humans have mirror neurons; we care about fairness. If we're treated unfairly we generally don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:21 PM
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I would hit the eject button. That's massively disrespectful and manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:20 PM
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Personal responsibility is unisex. Only sexists think it isnt. Cool. Go call all the people who are cool with women blaming men for everything sexists. I'll wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:16 PM
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Nah, not all of us are soulless extroverts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:15 PM
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Eh, I was always shamed by women for wanting to dance when I was younger, and I just never got on that train. Learned to play music instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:14 PM
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Just because you're smaller and weaker than someone doesn't mean you're in danger around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:13 PM
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Most of us would help men more if it weren’t for the above mentioned risk. I would, at least Vulnerable men in need of help are the ones who are the least likely to hurt you. The only reason I can think of for women not helping vulnerable men, specifically, is that they see vulnerable men as failed men and thus unworthy of help from women, who deserve to have men prove themselves to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:07 PM
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And yet women are commonly terrified of it. Ok, so the problem is their feelings, not the reality of the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:06 PM
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People generally agreed on Mindy Kahling being an awful person and her show being her hating on white men. So yes. Really? I saw a lot of "Yeah, she hates on white men, but they deserve it."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:05 PM
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Either proudly be an asshole or avoid it. Being a crybully is pathetic. This is definitely about enforcing traditional masculinity on men. You wouldn't say that about female crybullies. It's clear you respect brash assholes more than moral men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:04 PM
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The husband would have to be intelligent enough to understand why his wife is angry in the first place. Why she's angry and what she's angry about would determine how he should approach the matter. That's her responsibility to communicate if she wants her needs met. I'm assuming most husbands are too checked out, don't know or care who they married, and don't care about the emotions of the wife as long as she does enough to make his life easier. You're assuming that because you refuse to blame w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:58 PM
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Without any stats on that, I'm going to call that self-serving bias for justifying your lack of initiative in your love life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:55 PM
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I think it's trivial. In order for that to matter there would have to be an intent to harm on the part of the larger person. My flatmate is a tall, athletic and strong D1 athlete. Do I feel vulnerable around him, knowing he could come in my room at nights and strangle me to death? No. This seems like a strange thing to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:55 PM
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Oh, ok, that's a very small amount of men in the US so they can be ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:53 PM
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Just goes to show often men are largely checked out of their relationships and don't know shit about the women that they choose to be with. It's funny how you frame men being emotionally abused as the mens' fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:52 PM
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You sure? I got the "turn your head and cough" thing while a nurse held my nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:50 PM
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Lots of radfems are correct in their premises, but then their prescriptions go off the rails. The premise that females (of many species of mammal) are more vulnerable is not controversial. Humans, like many mammals, are sexually dimorphic. Most mammals have this trait where the female is smaller and more vulnerable. Define vulnerable in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:49 PM
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American women don't default hate men, they don't trust them. This is different. It's both; the default is hate because post-2008 average men can't provide for families anymore, and many women think that's worth hating. Constant media messaging in pop songs about how men are trash, do what's right by the sisterhood and treat men poorly and with disdain adds up. French women might like foreign men by default, but there's nothing to suggest to me that they're somehow more loving towards them. I ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:47 PM
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but theses men seem to be the worst ones Which men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:36 PM
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I'm not sure what you're talking about. I've emotionally supported all of my boyfriends and all of my male friends in significant manners to the point most of them admit there's a lot of situations they'd be drastically worse off in if they'd not had me in their life at that point carrying their emotional weight. Well, in my experience womens' emotional support of men looks suspiciously like tough love so he can get back out there and keep earning for her in the labor market, and very little car…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:35 PM
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The odds are worse on that if I approach, so no, I will not Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:30 PM
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Maybe instead of wasting time talking shit about women, these guys focus on holding their leaders accountable? Some of the people who need to be held accountable are women. And you can be left-wing politically and post a bit on reddit too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:26 PM
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I get that many feminists thing MTG is a better human being than left-wing men who are frustrated with their dating prospects. It's one of the reasons I'm not a feminist any more.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:24 PM
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No. You are saying that women are more vulnerable even if they're not weaker and smaller. And the reason I'm hostile to your argument is that it's frequently used by people (like Mary P. Koss) who argue that since sex is inherently traumatic for women, male sexuality needs to be treated like it's toxic, and that male rape and SA victims don't experience trauma the same way as women and can be disregarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:19 PM
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Sure. But it means that /u/Astronautloveshack is tripping on misandry rather than being factual.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:17 PM
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Moral people don't believe in inherited culpability.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:15 PM
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Yeah, and I'm sure when they say Europe, they mean Germany, France, Sweden, Norway, and England. Not say, the eastern block or other countries which we'd nicely label as "struggle bus". I mean I can speak for France, and it's just different there. Women in the US seem to hate men by default; women in France seem to like men by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:11 PM
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I guess i don't know how else to describe what I do. Yes, which is why your advice is useless. I'm not attractive or tall but I am a very extroverted person which I know helps. For guys who aren't soulless extroverts, your frame of reference is meaningless. Might as well say "Well, the trick to having success with women is a mother who gives a shit while you're a toddler so you can grow up to be extroverted. If you didn't have that, too late, you're just a walking abortion."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:09 PM
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Well, men know they aren't going to get any financial or emotional support from a female partner, so they focus on women who give them the things that women are willing to do. As long as we're generalizing...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:06 PM
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Which posts?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:03 PM
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You can keep doing the benevolent sexism. I never liked doing it so I don't. Oh, I stopped doing it and had a long dry spell, but then started finding the right kind of woman. I've had better luck just talking to them normally, sometimes it throws them off a bit but also makes them a little intrigued since they don't immediately know if I want to fuck them. Sorry, no, people who say this kind of thing happens naturally don't actually understand the things they're doing, and guys who are having t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:58 PM
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Not only that, men aren’t expected to even take care for themselves either, they go from mummy to wife. Dunno what world you live in. Here in the US men are expected to provide for women materially and emotionally while not receiving anything in return or they aren't a real man. It drives a lot of men to suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:52 PM
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When I say treat them like they are people I mean don't be scared of them. You could just open up with saying that social anxiety is an unattractive trait rather than making it about some sort of moral act to "treat women like people." The implication is that guys who have trouble with dating are treating women like subhumans, which is bullshit. It's a show of confidence to talk to them the way you'd talk to a guy instead of "simping", and it's easier. In my experience women get pissed when I ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:50 PM
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I would not add "purchasing," "caring for or helping non-household members" or "educational activities" to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:46 PM
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Why is this even an argument for you? Because you're using circular logic to say "because women are women they are vulnerable than men because women are more vulnerable."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:44 PM
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It's a much different dynamic to be the smaller gender being penetrated to the point where I am not sure women can ever act like men in this regard. So if I bang a chick who's heavier than I am it evens out? What is this idiocy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:34 PM
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No, if chemistry doesn't develop in your life, with anyone organically. Then you need a new strategy. Something that's not "just treat women like regular people." People who say "just treat women like people" are humblebragging, purposefully giving bad advice to make themselves feel better, especially because benevolent sexism (i.e. treating women extra special) is something women find attractive, especially feminist women who supposedly want equal treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:31 PM
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"Women only care about status/height/face/whatever" is cope from undesirable men. Yes, those things do matter, to a degree, but what matters most is your actions/character. The guys who shriek about that stuff can't admit to themselves that they are the rotten apple. Listen, I might be a "rotten apple," but I know plenty of wonderful guys who women won't give the time of day. Don't give me that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:21 PM
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It means don't overthink things, don't come up with "methods", just talk to them and let chemistry develop organically. ...and if chemistry doesn't develop organically?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:20 PM
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The data used to push their insecurities is outdated and has shitty research methodology. Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:17 PM
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Never said people are wrong for not waiting to get physical. You said they were wrong for feeling a certain way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:09 PM
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Nobody is forcing you. Not the point. You're suggesting something, and saying people are wrong for feeling a certain way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:06 PM
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So this is just men and women in general, not men and women in long-term relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:26 PM
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I'm not :-D
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:25 PM
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I disagree with the comment at the top of the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:25 PM
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No, its because women have less free time after childcare, housework and mental labor. Nah. If you add up childcare, housework, and labor outside the home men do more. All of my exes who wanted a working wife just as hardworking as them who also did everything else, they had parental dynamics set up that way. Thats where they learned these expectations from. They also all would say their fathers had more hobbies than their mothers...yet couldnt muster up two braincells to analyze what would lead…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:26 AM
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Yes, it is, and you're trying to avoid copping to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:25 AM
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Which chart are you reading from? Link?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:24 AM
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American Time Use Survey
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:39 AM
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When you tell guys they should be happy when women "take it slow" (i.e. treat them with comparatively less affection) you're doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:39 AM
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I think my viewpoint is more fact-based.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:08 AM
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You're encouraging guys to settle for women who take advantage of them all over this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:08 AM
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You can't justify that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:07 AM
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Huh? Some women "settling" as they get older isn't "making things up." You're trying to make excuses as to why guys should accept being settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 10:14 PM
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You're saying men should, though, and that there's nothing wrong with women treating long-term partners worse than short-term partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 10:06 PM
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Nobody is demanding anything. Yes they are. If a guy says "I' not going to wait longer than those other guys" and she says "No, you will" she's demanding that he expend more energy courting her than the other guys. You're not more attracted to one or the other. It doesn't work like that. Yes it does. It 100% does, for both men and women. We just have it normalized in certain segments of society for women to have a phase where they date and have sex with fun, hot guys and then find a guy to suppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 10:05 PM
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So they're wrong and just have an incoherent relationship strategy? Men shouldn't put up with that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:58 PM
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It's not wild. If a woman is reacting with emotional hostility to a given partner's advances, and demanding more and greater investments in terms of time and resources before she gives him affection, sex, and emotional warmth, she's treating him worse than the men she didn't do those things to. You can be attracted to someone and not want to rush into getting physical, but the partners that you do rush into getting physical with you're more attracted to. You're trying to dance around that point,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:57 PM
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Why would it be a reason in that case?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:53 PM
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American Time Use Survey disagrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:51 PM
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Irrelevant to my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:50 PM
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Ok, your situation is abnormal then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:49 PM
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It does. It's women exaggerating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:48 PM
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Yes but that rarely happens compared to the wine mom getting hammered and fobbing the kids off on overworked dad as soon as he gets home.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:48 PM
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There's no reason that having sex earlier would inhibit the development of an emotional connection; if anything it would help it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:45 PM
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The same reason guys may do some sexual things to some random slut that he wouldn't do to his wife. Usually that's because his wife won't do those things, not that he doesn't want to do so with her. I assume most good guys buy into the whole Madonna / Whore complex. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:44 PM
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A less affectionate and intimate relationship? No thanks. She should find someone she's actually attracted to. The idea that more "long term" relationships require the guy to sacrifice more to get his sexual (and emotional!) needs met only make sense if you're cynically extracting resources from him in exchange for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:41 PM
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It sounds like by "discipline" you mean "train the man do as to extract resources fir sex from him more efficiently." That seems soulless.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:40 PM
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Quite the opposite… they are more likely to wait if they like you more Oh hell no. This is absolute bullshit. If they're worried about being "pumped and dumped", that's one thing, but if they're into a guy they will overcome that fear faster and more easily, not more slowly. If a woman treats the giys she's supposedly into with less affection and respect than those she's supposedly not, that supposition is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:39 PM
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I haven't. I, however, am not as concerned about a woman's so-called n-count as her attitude to sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:34 PM
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I don’t think it’s a secret that men seem to hype up the amount of work they do (the ongoing joke about announcing they have done the laundry or the dishes, like it magically does itself the rest of the time), and women downplay it (because it’s ‘automatic’). I usually see the reverse, because women get more sympathy if they say that life is so hard for them right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:21 PM
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That's because some women have a martyr complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:19 PM
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Women working 3 days a week on the side (since our economy is fucked and single income families in many cases are not possible) aren’t the ones complaining that they are doing most household chores. It’s the woman working 9-5 coming home to a husband that doesn’t help her with anything. Well the issue is that dude might be working 60 hours a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:18 PM
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It's the reverse, most women have blinders for how much men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:16 PM
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Frequently earning more money comes with working more hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:16 PM
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Most men work more than women for the household when they're cohabiting with a female partner, but the perception is they don't. Which is strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:14 PM
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Statistically speaking most men do more work for the household than women do, so this ain't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:11 PM
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Call a man's wife ugly or a whore and actually make it seem like you mean it and I do think it would affect him. Oh it would affect him, but he would blame the person attacking his wife, not his wife, most likely. It depends on where you place blame and if you think your partner is responsible for everyone else's opinion of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 06:23 PM
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Yup. Meanwhile if I brought a non-white woman home and one of my parents or friends complained about it I'd tell them to get fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 06:14 PM
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Obviously men can do this kind of thing too... but from the male perspective it looks like women seem to care a lot more about their peers and society's perception of their partner than men do. Call a man's wife/gf ugly and he might punch you. Call a woman's husband/boyfriend ugly and she'll go home and punish him. It's not a truism, but I think it's more likely than the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 05:42 PM
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The reason we become hesitant is because once a man is a virgin past the age of 25, we start to wonder why that is and if something is wrong with him tbh... If I wondered that about women you'd call me a monster.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 05:37 PM
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Woman sleeps with attractive black man, woman doesn't want to admit to her friends and family that she did so.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 05:28 PM
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No, they can also be embarrassed about a man's race or social status. And other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 05:28 PM
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Women will sleep with guys they're embarrassed about too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 03:12 PM
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Sure, but insecure people are naturally more vulnerable (able to be hurt) than more secure people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 07:51 AM
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In fact, the more secure a person is with themselves, the more vulnerable they are comfortable being. No, the more secure a person is with themselves, the more open they are comfortable being. If they're vulnerable they are, by definition, insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:58 AM
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Being open about insecurity is being vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:48 AM
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But what if you knew she would want to know?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 07:34 PM
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One is a form of the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 06:14 PM
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Being open about being insecure is a kind of vulnerability.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 03:51 AM
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Go on FDS. They want men who hate their own sexuality so they're easier to control.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 03:50 AM
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That's not a name. Let's be clear about the kind of women that enforce toxic masculinity and "man up" ideals on men: Feminists. Misandrists. Bigots.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 03:50 AM
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I just browse threads in this subreddit and you keep saying dumb stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 03:49 AM
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There's more than movies and media. It's also what boys hear from the people around them whe they're growing up. And unattractive boys hear very different things than attractive boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 01:02 AM
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That's because the people who say that don't care about truth, they just want to signal that they hate boys and young men so they can be part of the in crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:59 AM
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In my experience guys like tall girls plenty, but women shame tall girls as being un-feminine, and honestly a lot of taller girls find men shorter than them unattractive because they have a need to feel dainty and feminine. And then they turn it around on the guys when they're the ones doing the rejecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:40 AM
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Women on reddit say it a lot. So that's part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:38 AM
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I just want men here to get out of their own way. That's because you think all of mens' problems are self-inflicted because women do no wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:36 AM
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It's true for women too. Don't date women who are in therapy or on mental health medication, they'l leave you as soon as they hit an upswing. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:31 AM
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But women vent in that way quite frequently... why is it ok for them and not men? I ask because I feel the same loss of attraction for women who do that but everyone tells me that's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:30 AM
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I wouldn’t be able to date someone who was deeply insecure because that would switch on my “mother mode” and when mother mode switch is on, there is no sexual energy. So you think that vulnerability is a turnoff?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:29 AM
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But if you know they want to be told, and you don't, that's unethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:22 AM
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What the fuck is this shit about not being able to get close to Muslim women? I work with multiple Muslim women. Are you high?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:20 AM
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Just report them for trolling since that's what they're doing. If enough of us do it the moda will take action.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:16 AM
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You're avoiding answering the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:15 AM
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I didn't grow up in a conservative environment and all I saw was female teachers and parents being supportive of girls and heaping toxic masculinity upon boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:15 AM
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No. Plenty of women want sex negative men or men with dark triad/antisocial personality traits. Stop bullshitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:14 AM
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But it happened, so... women do enforce toxic masculinity on men. You're trying to avoid copping to that because your morals suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:13 AM
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Which men do it? Name them. Describe them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:10 AM
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Nope, feminist women are particularly hateful towards male emotionality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:05 AM
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No, that's women. My male friends support me when I feel emotions; many of my female acquaintances enforce toxic masculinity on the men in their life something fierce.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:03 AM
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No, that’s because dudes are horny and will fuck anything my guy. You know that as well as me lol. No, I have turned down women for sex before. If you don't have self respect, that's on you. It’s not an issue of empathy, dudes will fuck a creepy girl given the chance if they meet their standard. Women won’t. Simple as that. Plenty of women will fuck a creepy guy if he's hot enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:59 PM
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Hard to believe you don’t get it. It’s a red flag, unfortunately, and a big one. It means to the girl that it’s possible the guys a virgin because he’s a creep, or weird, or any number of things that would make her uncomfortable. Sure, except my situation when I had sex with a gal who was a virgin was to make sure her first time was what she wanted and was fun. The only way what you're saying makes sense is if women are fundamentally lacking in empathy for men. But the neat thing is, you don’t h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:35 PM
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Irrelevant to what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:25 PM
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Nah, women want to be told if the guy they're with is a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:25 PM
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Lots of people are bad at sex or awkward, but nobody is gonna care that you're a virgin unless you mald about it or have some sort of weird hangup about it. Not true. If you mention it at that age a lot of women will just ghost you. Not my life path, but I've heard of it happening. Basically at a certain age most women assume that you deserve to stay a virgin your whole life, for some reason. Honestly I don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:13 AM
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A very small percentage of women are interested in casual sex. Weird, every woman I know is having casual sex to pass the time while waiting for a guy to initiate a relationship with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:46 AM
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I think when women do that, it comes from a place of fear and distrust, sometimes because of their own negative experiences with men, sometimes because of other people warning them to look out for (certain) men, and sometimes because of some other men making certain claims about men. And sometimes because of pure cruelty/schadenfreude.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:24 AM
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Nah, there's plenty of guys with shit personalities who have plenty of success with women, and plenty of guys with good personalities who have almost none.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:23 AM
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You forgot the part where men are expendable and their lives don't matter. That's part of feminism.
/r/MensRights01/04/23 07:43 PM
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Women in the West live longer largely because we take care of our bodies and don't do all the stupid things men do. Really? Women are more likely to be overweight than men. You'd also need evidence for that claim; we also know that women have better access to medical care, so that certainly helps. Access to education in the Western world has only opened up to women since Second Wave Feminism and it's far from equal. Women make up about 60% of college entrants; the gap between the sexes has rever…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:04 PM
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Since men enjoy so many benefits from the patriarchy By what metric? Women control more wealth, live longer, have better access to education, and are happier. Men refer to women by gender specific body parts all the time. Which men? The men you're paying attention to, maybe, but if you're on FDS your ability to function in relationships is already broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 05:34 PM
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That can be true and I can still be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 05:28 PM
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FDS expects men to contribute more to a relationship than a woman to make up for the sin of being born male. I've read the sub. Calling men "scrotes" is dehumanizing language. Playing dishonest games in your relationship, like FDS suggests, is abuse.b
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 05:27 PM
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Putting up with the constant emotional abuse and blackmail women are subject to in the dating world. It's painful to subject yourself to a system where your mind, your morals and personality mean nothing, but your breasts are major issues. People talk about womens' morals more on this sub than their breasts. You've got yourself confused. Moreover, it doesn't justify abusing men like FDS promotes. It's traumatic to constantly be on battlefield alert because so many men will do anything (including…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 04:31 PM
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But they'll necessarily abuse him in the process. You can be smart without being a shitbird. And what do you mean by "surviving"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 04:06 PM
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Nah. There's a lot of randomness in dating. There's a lot of good women who have trouble, bad women who do well. Same with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:19 AM
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but have been so disappointed by the men they have encountered (not just dated, all the men they have encountered since birth), they have adopted FDS strategy to survive If you live in a Western country and believe that, you're a bigot. Congratulations. Speaking from experienced observation FDS will keep a woman surviving in the dating world long enough to find an acceptable partner unlike being generous and forgiving to men which is almost always detrimental to woman. It will get them a guy the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:18 AM
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I don't see it. It seems to be created because some women hate men but are still sexually attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:29 PM
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Men seem to like it when women are responsive and excited when they initiate, obviously, but not really when the woman makes the first move. Nope, this is flatly incorrect. Perhaps you were told this by your female peers, who are trying to sabotage your ability to form relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 03:43 PM
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I don’t buy that men commonly think a woman “doesn’t actually care about him himself” if she takes an active role. I broke it off with a gal who did exactly this who thought she was being forward, but was actually just treating me like a square peg she was trying to force into a round hole. A is possible but b and c are unheard of, in my experience. Most guys would be over the moon if their female partner actually pursued them to give them that kind of validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 04:56 AM
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I’ve just noticed that men don’t actually respond well when women do things like approach them, frequently starting texting convos, ask to hang out, etc. You haven't. You think you've experienced that, but likely what's going on is the guy has picked up the vibe that you're into having a relationship a certain way and don't actually care about him himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:42 PM
1

There's really no incentive to lie on an anonomyous discussion thread. You really think someone wouldn't go on the internet and tell lies?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 07:49 AM
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I linked this thread in a different post. I think most of those are going to be fabrications. Plenty of guys I know have been stalked, had their car keyed, etc, for breaking up with a gal, but they don't call it like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 07:10 AM
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Men don't need to be fixed, exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 07:08 AM
1

I don't believe it. What I have met is women who were being "forward" who were actually just not showing any affection and actively demanding things of their partner. If a woman is enthusiastic and active about the relationship it's a plus, not a minus.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:59 PM
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Women are maimed and murdered for rejecting men on a daily basis. Women die in car accidents on a daily basis, too. Do you get in cars? There's another dynamic, here, and you're not copping to it. EDIT: And they blocked me, because they can't own up to their shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:42 PM
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Ask any woman you know if they ever experienced consequences for turning a man down. Depends on what you mean by "consequences," but since victimhood is currency and it amounts to a humblebrag ("I'm so attractive that guys go psycho for me") young women especially tend to exaggerate this kind of stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:41 PM
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But even if you do, it's always a painful reminder that your genitals make you scary, even to those closest to you. Yup! It's a good reminder that even the people who claim to love you can be rotten-hearted bigots against the male sex. That's why I'm not a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:37 PM
2

FDS does the same thing for guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:36 PM
1

Because if we take too much of an active role, usually men pull back/devalue. Nope. Who told you this?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 11:32 PM
0

But it all comes down to phrasing and how they’re presenting themselves. I disagree. A lot of people are going to react with hostility of men say that they have needs or are dealing with some sort of structural obstacle no matter how it's said.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 10:37 PM
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I think the hostility towards men bringing it up came first. I've seen far more men having self-respect be decried as misogynist than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 07:56 PM
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I’m exceptionally far left and I can recognize that women are fully capable of being shitty. So am I, but I find I can't talk about it around leftist women because they treat any mention of how women can be abusive, sexually violent, etc as right-wing discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 07:03 PM
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Men’s self-delusion is entirely their own responsibility. Ah, so structural problems never apply to men, only women. Good to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:54 PM
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Again, you don't cite your own claims in this regard, so why should anyone else put forth the effort in conversation when you're unwilling to do so yourself? You're arguing in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:52 PM
1

You don't cite your claims about these kinds of things like in your first paragraph here so why should I?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:47 PM
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all women have always said Nope. I could find examples all around this sub of women saying differently. Did men think women would say “well, you aren’t sexy, so you’ll have to develop a personality?” That’s understood. No it's not. Boys aren't told anything of the sort growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:45 PM
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I can’t imagine why a grown man believes that a slice and a beer somehow obligates a woman to romance or a sex act Nobody's saying that. Re-read my post and answer again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:43 PM
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Boys and men can clearly see that women develop crushes or gravitate towards physically attractive men. No denying the obvious. Except people do deny it; you get people in these threads and this subreddit claiming that women connect entirely on an emotional level and it has nothing to do with physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:40 PM
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She is willing to risk her personal safety No, sorry, she's not, every dinner date is not a meaningful risk to her personal safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:39 PM
1

No man’s company is worth sitting through an awkward meal if she isn’t attracted. Some women disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:38 PM
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No, it does not, but if you accept the offer of a meal when you know the guy has romantic intentions, and you have none yourself, congratulations, you're not comporting yourself in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:38 PM
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Technically there is a progressive wing that does advocate for a type of "assigning of partners" in so far that we would force all citizens to have psychometrics on their personality, we'd have a government app where you could go find people that match up with your personal/emotional mentality and meet up for possible friendships based on those scientific factoids. Who?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:36 PM
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Wow, telling people to be themselves and find someone that likes you for who you are rather than grinding at the gym to be part of the top 10% that get bitches. How unrealistic. If you don't think that fitness is attractive to women I have a bridge to sell you. Moreover, guys were "being themselves" their whole lives and weren't having success - why wouldn't they try changing it up? Judging from most womens' hostility to genuine male vulnerability and emotionality, finding a woman who likes "you…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:36 PM
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I'm not saying that either of the pills are political. They are, de facto, because center-left in the US is all about centering white women as the most important people in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:30 PM
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This is why the blue pill doesn't resonate with so many young men, because it doesn't provide them any actionable advice. Pointing to the broader economy, toxic masculinity, lack of positive male role models, etc is 100% accurate but it does absolutely nothing for a 17 year old nerdy skinny kid. Vague platitudes about being yourself or telling them that all women are so different is the opposite of what they see with their own eyes. I don't think that's accurate; many on the left actually typica…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 06:26 PM
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It’s selfish to enter into a relationship in an emotionally fragile state bc this can lead to toxic dynamics, codependency, etc. Anger issues and uncouth desperate expressions online absolutely need to be addressed on a personal level, and I don’t say this from a man-hating POV. I say this as someone who has gone through extensive therapy and psychiatry to manage my traumas before entering into a relationship. It is not at all unreasonable for women to expect an emotionally mature partner. It's …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 05:07 PM
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I would counter that many men on this sub are plenty emotional in their anger, blame, desperation(cough lamenting online about going months without sex), and pessimism. This type of vulnerability is an immediate turn off, especially to an emotionally secure person. Please get to a place of individual wellbeing and address any emo shortcomings before entering into a romantic relationship. It’s a matter of personal responsibility. You'd never tell a woman something like that. You'd say it was her …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 05:06 PM
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It’s easier to be a victim and blame circumstances that are out of your control than it is to keep trying. It's easier to blame people for their own victimization than to admit that there might be structural issues. You're showing the right-wing mentality in spades right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 04:58 PM
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I simply refuse to believe that a guy can't find a woman to get with on his level. Then you're pushing ideology, not facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 04:55 PM
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If by meth you mean prescribed Ritalin then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 09:05 PM
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This is nonsense. Not an argument, and not accurate. Someone can't take an obvious joke. Somehow, whenever men are dehumanized, it's a joke, but whenever women are dehumanized, it's horrific. Get out of here with that shit. You have no concrete fear or looming threat of oppression that women have, tried and tested. Nah. Boys are systematically disadvantaged in K-12 education and therefore disadvantaged in terms of future career and higher education prospects. Boys are more likely to be incarcera…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 05:39 AM
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Just like anti-female has been then. Huh? No, this is feminism we're talking about. This doesn't prove that feminism as a whole is anti-male. The actions of its members since then seal the deal. I do find it interesting how scared you are of the idea of women having too much power and/or mishandling that power when the biggest culprits of this historically of men. It's almost as if men are afraid women would treat them as men did and have through the centuries. Huh? Women having power isn't any …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:35 PM
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It's not a law, it's early feminist discourse. My point is that the anti-male threads have been in it since the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 09:53 PM
2

Are you not familiar with the Seneca Falls Declaration?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 09:30 PM
2

The Seneca Falls declaration makes it clear. There's a passage in there about how women are better than low-class men and immigrants.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 08:39 PM
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Yes, that's the core of feminist ideology. Women have inherent worth, men are inherently unworthy unless they make up for it with their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 06:19 PM
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I never even heard that so you seem even more invested in feminism than a feminist. As if you're looking for stuff to be mad about. There's the goalpost moving. As if men don't say shitty things. Men do. Some of those men are feminists, even. Feminism is an idea, every feminist differs from the next, to throw the entire idea under the bus because one feminist says something you don't like is an overexaggeration, particularly to the extent of trying to do a complete 180 on social progress. No. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 07:49 AM
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That isn't anything based on actual academic or systematic feminist theory. No, the Duluth model is though. There's no evidence that the women using them are mainstream feminist activists. Clementine Ford is. The "men who have emotional needs are demanding unfair emotional labor of women" bullshit went mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 06:11 AM
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"#maletears" "#masculinitysofragile" "Unfair emotional labor" Etc
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 03:59 AM
1

I mean The Station Agent exists lol
/r/MensRights07/03/23 03:57 AM
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The posts raiding awareness about male suicide rate and title ix in higher education both apply. Moreover, that subreddit raised 50k for a men's shelter in Canada. Meanwhile, menslib tells men they don't have problems, they are problems. Especially Asian men, weirdly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 03:51 AM
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Feminists would agree this is bad and wrong. No they wouldn't. Generally the thing they push the hardest for men is that their purpose is to be useful to women. The feminist hostility towards male emotionality is intense. Red pill/manosphere is notoriously pro-patriarchy. Redpill, maybe, I don't engage with them that much. But the rest of it... a lot of the manosphere is centerd around the idea that men matter and aren't expendable/disposable. By your definition of patriarchy, that's anti-patria…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 02:53 AM
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Generally, no they don't, and the "what about the women" posts on a sub as woman-centric as menslib proves my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 02:51 AM
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“What about men” is the battle cry when women talk amongst themselves. If you look on subs like menslib when men are talking about mens' issues women constantly but in to tell them they need to think about women instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 02:16 AM
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Bro, isn't the running argument that men built society?! By who? It's not really accurate. Also, few woman are okay with only males being conscripted. Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 02:15 AM
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Who starts wars with men? Other men... Who conscripts men? Other men... The existence of Margaret Thatcher disproves your point. Women don't have as extensive of a record of warmongering and brutal oppression as men do due to a lack of opportunity, not a lack of desire to oppress.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 02:15 AM
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Well the manosphere red pill stuff isn't helping. They're unashamedly pro-patriarchy. Depends on what you mean by "manosphere." A lot of it is pushback against the idea that men are expendable etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 02:14 AM
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Most women would probably support this Oh hell no. I mean, they might give lip service to it, but unfortunately the vast majority of women are not mentally prepared for men to open up emotionally. It's in the interest of the patriarchy if you really think about it. It's in the interest of feminism/women. So in that sense, feminism is the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 01:46 AM
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Okay, so when I ask you to name me feminists who don’t see problems with male genital mutilation you ask me back to name one who says it’s a problem What qualifies as a feminist cor this purpose? Feminists I know? Feminists on reddit? In my experience feminists detest men who think the circumcision is a problem. What is that supposed to mean? Write proper English. Educate yourself about what "gung-ho" means. It's a well known term in English. My point is that feminista are some of the most arden…
/r/AntiFeminists06/02/23 05:57 PM
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Tell me one feminist which says genital mutilation of boys is nothing to worry about. Find me one who says it's a problem. If you say "I don't want boys or girls' genitals to be mutilated" you'll get feminists who say that MGM and FGM are "not comparable." If you tease out why it's basically because they believe that baby girls' bodies are sacred and inviolable while boys' bodies are trash. Regarding the violence against men, it’s a deeply patriarchal notion that a woman can’t rape or beat up a …
/r/AntiFeminists02/02/23 11:16 PM
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Nah. You keep saying that, but it's weird how feminists think that genital mutilation of women and girls is a crime, but genital mutilation of boys and men is nothing to worry about. Men committing domestic abuse against women is bad, but women committing domestic abuse against men is to be ignored.
/r/AntiFeminists01/02/23 07:23 PM
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Nah, I've read a lot of feminist theory, from Gearhart's pro-male genocide rants back to the Seneca Falls declaration, which basically said that white women were worth more than dirty immigrants, and the dictionary definition doesn't cut it.
/r/AntiFeminists01/02/23 05:12 AM
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Feminism's core thesis is that women are morally superior to men.
/r/AntiFeminists31/01/23 09:34 PM
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Funny that feminists call it a patriarchy then.
/r/ExRedPill22/01/23 09:43 PM
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Then you're not showing your views are any more accurate than his.
/r/ExRedPill22/01/23 06:28 PM
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I would say that being successful simply allows you to demand more out of a relationship and from your woman. Careful with that shit lol. You're implying that women in a relationship will treat their male partner with less deference the less successful he is.
/r/ExRedPill22/01/23 09:11 AM
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I think you'd be better off giving him arguments against his outlook that's wrong, rather than suggesting he counter-propagandize himself.
/r/ExRedPill22/01/23 09:09 AM
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Controversy drives their algorithms.
/r/ExRedPill22/01/23 09:02 AM
1

I actually think you're conflating two things. It's possible to be in a committed relationship and have an active sex life.
/r/ExRedPill22/01/23 09:01 AM
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You know the most common form of misandry I see in the world? Manosphere and redpill and blackpill bullshit. That's the most common misandry I see. Well the most common kind I see is the general "men only matter if they're useful to women" shit. A woman, a woman saying something about men isn't harming men. It's like when a black person says "man fuck white people" it's not harming white people, but white people will be all "reverse racism waaah" but there is no reverse racism. Nah, it hurts men…
/r/ExRedPill21/01/23 05:58 PM
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No, it's very relevant, and people need to bring it up in these conversations. There's plenty of deserving guys (and gals) who strike out. That's life.
/r/ExRedPill21/01/23 07:37 AM
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In the context of feminism and feminist spaces and allyship. Basic reading comprehension would save us both a lot of time here. Seriously, it's like you came here looking to be triggered. What for? Triggered? Not a good look to appropriate language used for people with PTSD to mean... what? Or do you believe in the woman hating feminazi? I don't. I wouldn't describe it in those terms. I think there are a decent amount of feminist women and men with an antipathy towards men as a class. I know no …
/r/ExRedPill21/01/23 01:32 AM
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I'm saying you're likely to find less successful men cruel.
/r/ExRedPill21/01/23 01:24 AM
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I think that work needs to be done, especially given that women initiate the majority of divorces in general.
/r/ExRedPill21/01/23 01:23 AM
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Well you were talking about how you police the behavior of men but not women. It's a very reasonable place to take the conversation.
/r/ExRedPill20/01/23 10:34 PM
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I left him because he became cruel, belittling, angry, violent, and dehumanizing If he hadn't lost his job I bet you mysteriously wouldn't find him any of those things.
/r/ExRedPill20/01/23 10:29 PM
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Rejection has been the sole reason for assault, rape, murder; the honest answer here for a lot of us is we’re fucking terrified. Rejecting a woman is also one of the few ways a guy can put himself at risk for violence from a woman; that's why most guys let women down easy too.
/r/ExRedPill20/01/23 10:28 PM
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The existence of men isn't inherently worth shit. The existence of people? Sure. But you having a penis doesn't mean dick to men. The difference is you suppose the existence of women is inherently worth something.
/r/ExRedPill20/01/23 10:27 PM
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How do these Red Pill scientists explain women releasing oxytocin at orgasm...same chemical release when giving birth, breastfeeding, etc. Lol there aren't many red pill scientists. We are biologically releasing a chemical to make us feel attached to our lovers on the same level as our children? And women abuse and neglect and act selfishly towards their children, too. Oxytocin is not magic. "Love" doesn't mean you'll treat the person you love well.
/r/ExRedPill20/01/23 10:20 PM
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No, the statistics go up but we don't know if it's cancer-stricken wives divorcing their husbands.
/r/ExRedPill20/01/23 10:15 PM
1

You're exactly right, and that's why both this redpill stuff and stuff like FDS are disgusting.
/r/ExRedPill20/01/23 10:03 PM
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Youtube isn't a substitute for actual therapy. The problem is that there's a thread in the therapy profession right now that incel/redpill men and boys don't deserve help. It's gonna be a rough road.
/r/ExRedPill20/01/23 10:02 PM
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The shaming of repill consumers stems from their general poor behavior towards other men and women. Most people don't do it for that reason, but because they see redpillers as losers and thus deserving of being mocked.
/r/ExRedPill20/01/23 10:00 PM
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That seems wack, like you don't believe that you have a right to a your own moral sovereignty or the existence of men is worth anything inherently.
/r/ExRedPill20/01/23 09:56 PM
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It's extremely relevant to what you're talking about.
/r/ExRedPill20/01/23 09:09 PM
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I don't think the issue is that women aren't thought of as people.
/r/ExRedPill20/01/23 08:34 PM
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There's a small segment of women (like 5% or less) who do preferentially date assholes. And they and their relationships cause loads of fucking trouble wherever they go.
/r/ExRedPill20/01/23 08:33 PM
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Sure, but many of us have also seen good dudes struggle with relationships. There's a lot of randomness involved, and a just world it ain't.
/r/ExRedPill20/01/23 08:31 PM
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It's not my experience that women are endlessly forgiving. And dating is going to be harder if you're short etc. But it's still doable.
/r/ExRedPill20/01/23 08:31 PM
1

The Alabama state legislature is not particularly influenced by feminists.
/r/MensRights21/08/22 04:31 PM
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And lowering requirements for women to qualify makes sense. Women aren’t naturally as strong as men, and even if they double the effort in the gym, could never hope to be as strong. What if we treated sex like you treat ADHD? Tough shit, stop using your sex as a crutch, women, don't let it define you by your inability to perform.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 08:36 PM
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I’ve had great success treating women like equals. - who ever gets to the door first, holds it open. - first date? Pay for yourself if it’s anything more than a coffee date. Alternate paying after that. - respect boundaries - BE A DECENT FUCKING PERSON Nah, when I started treating women like equals there was no interest. Chauvinism? They started lining up. Edit: /u/Sophist_Polemicist blocked me to ensure having the last word. Nice try to show that you can't back up your points.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 08:35 PM
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How convenient that you ‘used to be a feminist’ and that you are privy to conversations that prove your biases. Nah, it's really fucking inconvenient and I wish people were less shitty. You could be writing the new “Holy Blood & the Holy Grail” that exposes the feminist movement for what it really is! Just like how Trump supporters like Trump because he's dishonest, a crook, bigoted, etc, feminists like feminism because it's biased and anti-male.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 07:30 PM
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RemindMe! 12 hours
/r/MensRights18/07/22 05:01 PM
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How do you KNOW feminists? You clearly hate them so how is it you are having these conversations with them that expose the seedy underbelly of what Feminists are REALLY all about? Why would they tell YOU? Do you have the clubhouse bugged? I used to be a feminist, and a lot of feminists move in my circles. I've definitely seen social media rants from feminists I know about how men need to have their genitals mutilated so women can be happy. But you are right about something. I checked and the ‘ni…
/r/MensRights18/07/22 05:00 PM
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What would you consider proof of feminism being entrenched in higher education?
/r/MensRights18/07/22 04:54 PM
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Most Feminists DO support the ending of male circumscision. News to me. Most feminists I know support MGM because most women find it aesthetically pleasing. Also, they consider mens' right to bodily autonomy to be fundamentally lesser than womens', and so mockingly cheer on MGM as a punishment for men who dared to think their bodies were as valuable as womens'. Also I notice that you lumped in the ceremonial "nick" in type 1 with a clitoradectomy. I guess you consider that "nick" to be way worse…
/r/MensRights18/07/22 04:40 PM
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Feminist theory is part and parcel of what people are taught and informs institutional policy - look at the "Dear Colleague" letter that the Biden administration reinstated. I'm asking what you would consider proof so I can answer your question. I think you're evading because you don't want to give a concrete answer of what you would consider proof.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 04:38 PM
1

In what sense? It's just how it is. (white) Feminism is endemic in higher education.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 02:46 PM
1

I said reasoning. The "facts" are that people worry more about the safety of women, even though men are more likely to be the victim of violence.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 04:50 PM
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I gave my reasoning above.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 07:55 AM
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I gave a good reason why that's the case.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 07:48 AM
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Nah, some women are courageous. And courageous and compassionate people make the best parents.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 04:06 AM
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It's actually known for having an extraordinarily open modding style. So... nice try.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 04:00 AM
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Nah, it's driven by the desire to shame men. Otherwise the same people would be more concerned for men, who are more likely to be the victim of violent crime. But they aren't - so it's a matter of just not giving a shit about men.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 03:58 AM
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Nah, I mean, for those of us men who were the victim of sexual abuse as boys from girls or women, we're oftentimes not taken seriously, and it's usually emphasized that our pain and trauma isn't equal to that of girls and women. So it's not that men don't understand - we're just raised in a world where showing that kind of weakness is treated with scorn.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 03:56 AM
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Weight says a lot about your personality. It says more about your genetics; obesity is 60% heritable. the quality of person is more important to women Fuck no, women can be just as shallow as men.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 03:50 AM
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Hey, congrats on the good sex life. I don't mean that sarcastically either. Glad it's working for somebody.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 11:38 PM
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I’m saying to be mindful about when/where/how these discussions are had, because if you’re not careful it can come off that way. The issue is that there are often no places to have these discussions that's considered acceptable.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 11:36 PM
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Who cares? It's unfairness.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 11:36 PM
7

In all fairness, the account that posted the machete comment was suspended.
/r/MensRights14/05/22 11:41 PM
2

Education is the big one, especially higher education.
/r/MensRights12/05/22 03:14 AM
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Feminists do have institutional power, though, in some arenas.
/r/MensRights10/05/22 05:40 PM
4

If you won't criticize Republicans over this bill you're a bootlicker.
/r/MensRights10/05/22 04:13 PM
7

Traditionalists are shitbags too.
/r/MensRights10/05/22 06:23 AM
0

Or it's their goals. Traditionalists are against bodily autonomy. They're not useful idiots if they're the impetus behind it.
/r/MensRights10/05/22 01:04 AM
1

Or just Republicans who are against bodily autonomy.
/r/MensRights09/05/22 11:54 PM
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What about the Republicans who made this bill happen, though? Do you think they'll criticize you?
/r/MensRights09/05/22 11:53 PM
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This is a Republican bill.
/r/MensRights09/05/22 11:51 PM
3

The people who wrote this bill are not feminists.
/r/MensRights09/05/22 11:39 PM
1

Ok, and? That doesn't make a difference to what I was saying. You don't treat drug addiction like it's a "matter of willpower," you treat it like a chronic disease.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 07:33 PM
1

So, how do we reduce the disproportionate value placed on soothing and addressing upper class male pain, so that all men can benefit from it? Class awareness. It would also come with reducing the disproportionate value placed on soothing and addressing upper class white, educated female pain, though, so it's going to run up against feminism. From there, what could we do to prevent that kind of monopolization of male or female grievances from being invoked again? Normalize calling out women when …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 08:24 PM
1

Nope. Read up the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 08:38 AM
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But I am interested in what you mean by traditionalism and how that acts as an obstacle to the expression of male pain? Contrary to feminist dogma, male emotional experiences are not centered under traditionalism (what they call "patriarchy.") This is because under traditionalism, men are "valued" for their ability to be exploited by the upper class for labor and violence. The only men whose emotional experiences are centered are those at the top of the social pyramid - but those men are outlier…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:32 PM
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From an intersectional POV, the conversation has almost been entirely defined by (white, hetero, cis) male pain for centuries, at the expense of 'the other'. Nah, it's been dominated by white, hetero, cis upper class women's pain. Because of traditionalism the supposed "most privileged" group doesn't actually get to express their pain. Your analysis is off.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 05:47 PM
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Nah. Just pointing out how shallow and insipid someone's comment is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 05:26 PM
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Nah, fat guys are ok. It's the fat women you gotta watch out for.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 11:13 PM
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Same for me and fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 11:03 PM
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Sally Miller Gearhart thought that men had to be reduced to 10% or less of the population. She was literally calling for genocide. It's definitely in the literature. Mary P. Koss proposed policy that involved treating the rape of men by women as a lesser crime than the rape of women by men. That's anti-male. NOW opposes presumptive shared custody, because doing so would enable fathers equal access to their children. That's anti-male (and anti-child).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 10:52 PM
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Other than "of course feminism isn't anti-male, because that would be evil and feminism isn't evil" kinds of circular logic, do you have any arguments for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 06:03 PM
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I disagree. I think that anti-male sentiment has only gotten worse in our society as feminism has been more and more successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 11:26 PM
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Oppress isn't the right word. But there's a strong current of antipathy towards men and boys in feminism, and people like you insisting that it's not true are just enabling abuse and hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 11:03 PM
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I think you know it's true, considering your constant attempts at bad faith argumentation (no true scotsman) on the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:47 AM
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I mean it's the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 02:07 AM
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I used to be a feminist. I stopped being one when I realized that even if I was a feminist, feminist women still saw me as guilty of the sin of being a man, and I would always be worse in their eyes than even conservative, non-feminist women. There was a moral stain I bore under that philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 01:26 AM
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I have. Sally Mae Gearhart was pretty influential; she would probably agree. Again, no true scotsman. What actual feminist literature are you talking about? And why does basically no feminist care what it says?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 01:11 AM
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And she'd say that feminism justifies her viewpoint; that under patriarchy, "mediocre men" are allowed to succeed. You're pulling a "no true scotsman" fallacy here. When you have influential feminists like Mary P. Koss saying that rape of men shouldn't be considered a crime of the same severity as rape of women, the misandry is core to the movement. Your trying to say it isn't can only be taken as bad faith argumentation and gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 01:00 AM
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Nope! Just recently I had a feminist woman tell me that it's wrong for me to succeed professionally (I'm an academic) because a woman, specifically a white woman, deserves my position. I'm not that young. I'm 35. It's not from "indoctrination" - it's from realizing that feminist women, in general (there are obviously exceptions) want me to fail and are unhappy if I'm successful and fulfilled in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 12:47 AM
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Maybe it's anti-feminist to say it, because then the jig is up, but a big part of feminism is acting it out. The amount of horrible shit I've seen justified with feminism - physical and mental abuse, neglect of male children, disenfranchising boys from education, all sorts of shit - tells me it's very much a "woman worthy, men unworthy" philosophy. I used to be a feminist when I was younger. Then the rubber hit the road.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 12:40 AM
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No. The amount of single women whose brains have been absolutely fried by romcoms is insane. It's like guys with a madonna-whore complex. These are broken people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 12:39 AM
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So are many feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 12:38 AM
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Feminists do not believe that men are one way and women are another. Many feminists do. It's not against feminism to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 12:23 AM
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It definitely makes sense if you think men have collective guilt for the patriarchy, which many feminists do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 12:19 AM
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No, FDS is fundamentally anti-feminist. They definitely disagree. And I think they're more right - feminism aligns very closely with what they believe, to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 12:18 AM
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Romcoms are not real life, guys. It's not guys who need to be told this, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 12:17 AM
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Not what I said. Who are you holding accountable anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:20 PM
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Says me, I've seen it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 12:39 AM
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Glad you've stopped wasting my time. If you're going to lie obnoxiously, better that you be silent. Multiple people can see what you said, that's why I popped in to weigh in.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 10:15 PM
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Nah, you can read it. I'd link it and then you'd deny it. Stop dancing around trying to evade culpability for the things you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 10:12 PM
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No, you made the statement that declining sex drives affect both sexes in similar ways. That's not really true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 10:11 PM
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Nah, that'll get twisted around to him being a neat freak and un-masculine. I've seen it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 09:39 PM
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Get off your shit. The point that he's making is that while everyone's sex drive will eventually decline with age, that rate is not the same between the sexes. Which invalidates what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 09:34 PM
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Women do. See the makeup and beauty industry for one example. Uh huh. It's not about displaying status to her female peer group, not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 09:31 PM
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Your mom sounds toxic. She's a bit of an extreme example, but the point remains - our society encourages certain kinds of toxicity to men by women. It's like maternal gatekeeping in parenting - mothers will nitpick every interaction their husband has with their children (though if they themselves are every criticized they'll blow a gasket), and gradually push them away from the task of taking care of the child - then castigate them for not being involved enough. “You can handle when the tub has …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 09:27 PM
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The problem is, if you had, you wouldn't cop to it. That was my mom growing up - if my dead was clean, he was a neat freak and she'd verbally emasculate him. If he was messy, she'd complain about that too and say he was making her do all the work. And she still complains about both to this day, and they've been divorced for like 15 years. She mocked him for hiring a maid when he lived on his own after they split.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 08:59 PM
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Nah, even if the guy does all that her sex drive will decline. In fact, if he's neat and cleans up it might decline faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 08:55 PM
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No, you're off base here. /u/NockerJoe is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 08:54 PM
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Also women living with men tend to turn into house elves. Sometimes she volunteers for it because “she just can’t stand how he cleans or his version of a clean toilet is grimier than she likes.” I get it. Brown toilets gross me out. But Dobby the house elf becomes resentful and resentful women don’t have a sex drive and especially toward the object of their resentment. Eh, the way our culture is, women will make sure that the state of the house is a problem for their relationship. If a guy keeps…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 08:53 PM
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I'm not going to argue with you. You'd fail at it anyway. The fact that the people are "overweight" means that their weight is over what it should be to be considered healthy. Yup, no dispute there. Getting your weight down would be healthy rather than staying as overweight. I didn't say it wasn't. It's almost like you have no idea what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 08:37 PM
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The fact is that since America is getting fatter, that means they in the last 50 years most people were less fat than now. Thus, it is a choice people make. This doesn't follow. There was more food insecurity 50 years ago, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 08:19 PM
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In the biological context, it almost certainly does (barring epigenetics and so on). What's clear though, is that it isn't memetic - that is, children adopted into families other than their birth parents can have 60% of their BMI explained by their birth parents' traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:51 PM
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Diet and exercise are 100% not heritable, and completely up to you as a person. Nah, obesity is 60% heritable. I'm gonna trust the scientists on this one. You don't treat it with diet and exercise and say it's a personal choice. You treat it like a chronic disease.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 06:54 AM
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If your metabolism is in the gutter due to a thyroid issue, that can be addressed medically. Again though, there's more than thyroid issues that go into this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 05:28 AM
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Eh, obesity is 60% heritable. Agree on the promiscuity thing though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 09:26 PM
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Yes they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 09:24 PM
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Glad to know this happens to women too lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 09:18 PM
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What makes Russia socialist? Who owns the means of production?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 06:20 PM
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Well, feminism embraces it wholeheartedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 07:29 AM
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Conservative communities are more likely to believe that men are by their nature violent, sexual aggressive, and unsuited to nurturing kids I was told this by feminist women and right-wing women growing up. I feel like it was more from the former, but I wasn't literally keeping score. It's liberal communities where people think men can be different—probably because it's those same educated liberal communities where men are less possessive, less controlling, less violent, and more involved in chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 04:48 AM
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Look - if you've got a woman who's "influential", is her energy better spent rabble-rousing among a group who are generally facing it the right direction, or debating the merits of her ideas with people who may or may not be engaging in good faith (and if it's online, almost certainly aren't). The same would apply to a man. Unless you think a man's time is inherently less valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 04:45 AM
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It's the responsibility of men to talk to other men because men listen to men. Nah, not really. It's because a lot of people think a woman spending effort on a man to help him (as opposed to herself) is beneath her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 04:42 AM
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that the impetus and outcomes of a more equal and just world are fundamentally pathological and degenerate because it has denied them of their birthright as a member of the master class Except that wealth has become more and more concentrated in the hands of the 1%. We're not "more equal." People telling young white men that they need to shut up, they're doing fine, are in the wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 04:41 AM
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The big problem a lot of romantically unsuccessful guys have is that they're starting from a place of aggrieved entitlement. No. That's where Elliot Rodger started from. That's not where the average lonely dude starts from. That's why the average lonely dude isn't a mass murderer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 04:40 AM
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It's not the responsibility of women and PoC to kiss the boo-boos of assorted lonely young men. It's the job of the men on the left to deal with them Why not? We're all in this society together, and random left-wing guy #327 is no more responsible for the plight of lonely men than random left-wing woman #789. If you're a young dude with some semi-formed ideals of collectivism and solidarity, one of the big steps you need to take is to get comfortable with the idea that you are not the main chara…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 04:39 AM
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Feminism seems most closely linked with pro-corporate capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 08:52 PM
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That's good. I try not to blame the average woman who, while flawed like the average man, isn't shitty to men as a group in the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 08:44 PM
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I'm upset at how hateful some men can get towards women. Some of us are upset at how hateful some women can get towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 07:56 PM
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Barking orders when things aren't exactly as you want it while not bothering to do any of it yourself isn't "taking ownership". These guys aren't barking orders or nagging their wives. I can just as easily say "Every Western white man's comfort is built on a throne of suffering of everyone else." It's just as meaningless. Exactly. Which is why saying that white women are hard up in the West is entitled bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:27 PM
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Aight, that's a reasonable take, and unusual in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:20 PM
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If you're rich. Here in California, hiring a cleaning lady for an hour or two a week is pretty common for middle class families. So what exactly IS he keeping track of? The woman's keeping track of the kids, chores, events, etc... Most traditionalist households I know the guy does this, because the buck stops with him. He doesn't treat the inside of the house like the woman's turf, and takes ownership of it. lol project harder. Nah. And just to reiterate: ...every Western white woman's comfort i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:18 PM
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Of course I would never ask a man to take me to a place I couldn’t afford myself and if push comes to shove, I’ll pick up the tab - but there probably won’t be a second date after that. So do you generally feel that men need to bring more financially into a relationship to make up for the... female-ness that you're bringing in to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:00 PM
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And housework. And childcare. Oh no, those can be sourced out to lower-class labor. And otherwise keeping track of everything. Nah, if a guy is the patriarchal head of the household he isn't making her keep track of everything. How mysterious that the mundane drudgeries of day-to-day life aren't important enough to consider. How mysterious that you think that Western white women are such a put-upon demographic... sorry, they're the most privileged group in the world. Chivalry disagrees, of cours…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 04:50 PM
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I didn't realize that "boys will be boys" and the cultural expectation of providing little more than dick, a paycheck, and the rare token gesture of affection to relationships were things applied to women. In the same vein, women are only expected to provide a vagina. It's not always true, like your example, but as long as we're talking in those terms...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 04:03 AM
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I've had multiple exes get turned off when I demonstrated too much competence. One of them just about walked out when I accepted a job that paid more than his. That's because a lot of men are told that they're worthless if they can't provide. Maybe you weren't doing it, but they're getting that message from society. There's also a lot of women who will push to increase their career potential and then break it off with their male partner as they're now higher-status than him; guys are worried abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 04:01 AM
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Idk why people don't do more to fight this. As a man, it's because having an opinion on any of these topics that's not subordinate to a woman is seen as anti-feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 03:56 AM
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Yeah, risk taking hobby groups are perfect... if you're a woman. Yup. Reminds me of a gal I knew who was into motorcycles - working on them and riding them. Her mom kept telling her "no guy's gonna want you if you do that! They want a feminine woman!" Thank goodness she didn't listen to her. She had a fun hobby where she pretty much had her pick of which guy she liked, and made a lot of good friends in the process. Me and my male friends were like "Your mom is dumb. Women who have hobbies like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 05:44 PM
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Men here seem to forget women can be tall too, and we are rejected for that Huh? Men don't reject tall women the same way women reject short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 02:24 AM
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in the eyes of LVM and men who wish they could sleep around but can’t! Period In the eyes of women, too. You're just saying sour grapes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 11:45 PM
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Don’t forget who create single mothers. Garbage men. Sometimes it's garbage women who donit to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 10:25 PM
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Not according to most women, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 10:23 PM
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No HVM sleeps around Yes they do. And the more they do the higher their value gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 10:19 PM
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Where in the hell do you live? I live in the US and most men are decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 06:54 AM
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Sure. I've also heard different from some trans men who were raised as girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 05:25 AM
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Except liars play victim all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 12:57 AM
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Nah, trans people have biases too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 12:05 AM
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Sounds fishy. There was a teacher at my community college who had the same rap about how most men are shit and entitled blah blah blah. Turns out he was grooming female students at the private hs he taught at into having sexual relationships with him. Most men aren't shitty. But men will use that discourse to get close to women and earn their trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 12:02 AM
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What you're describing are suicidal gestures, not genuine suicide attempts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 11:58 PM
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Yes I have. The point is that the more attention a prospective partner seems to get from women, the more secure they are in their choice. And, to a certain kind of women, the idea that all these women slept with this guy but she's the one who has him locked down in a relationship is validation.
/r/MensRights13/02/22 05:18 PM
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Nah, women value that kind of partner.
/r/MensRights13/02/22 08:57 AM
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That female friend that's "emotionally intimate" with you while she's fucking other guys? She'd drop you in a second if the guy she's actually fucking wanted her to.
/r/MensRights13/02/22 05:21 AM
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Guys who sleep around aren't worshiped or praised they're just fuck boys. Bullshit. People say this but they don't mean it.
/r/MensRights13/02/22 05:19 AM
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Guys who sleep around aren't worshiped or praised they're just fuck boys. Bullshit. People say this but they don't mean it.
/r/MensRights13/02/22 05:18 AM
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They asked for it lol
/r/MensRights13/02/22 05:15 AM
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OP your post is lacking details that really explain your situation.
/r/MensRights24/01/22 12:07 AM
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Yep. You'll notice how the detail is purposefully left sparse here. Good chance it's a troll post.
/r/MensRights24/01/22 12:06 AM
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OP almost certainly made this post to attempt to make this sub look bad and it's not a real story. Whether or not it is sexual assault depends entirely on details of the sexual encounter that they pointedly skipped over.
/r/MensRights24/01/22 12:03 AM
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That's one of the things I like about It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia - Dee gets as much dumb stuff happening to her as the guys.
/r/MensRights23/12/21 12:48 AM
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Does that mean they're women or men who like to go to "womens" subs?
/r/MensRights23/12/21 12:43 AM
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Well, the problem is that the people acting within capitalism see color, and some of them are racist.
/r/MensRights19/12/21 03:29 AM
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She was also the first female self-made millionaire period.
/r/MensRights18/12/21 06:05 PM
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The first black millionaire in the US was a woman who marketed hair products specifically to blacks.
/r/MensRights17/12/21 11:42 PM
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Men have a subtle contempt for women that approach and chase them. Speak for yourself lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:55 AM
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they feel like it emasculates them I don't know guys like that. I know women who come up with that explanation after they pursue and get rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 05:55 AM
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To see the Western anti-male chauvinism, notice how it was completely legitimate for a woman to publish a year ago a book saying that this surge in girls that transition is a harmful and offensive phenomenon. Which book is this?
/r/MensRights08/11/21 09:43 PM
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Police brutality - this disproportionally affects nonwhite, especially black and Native American men, but affects all men disproportionately with respect to women. Add in the incarceration of men, depriving them of liberty, and we have systematic oppression. Parental rights - fatherhood is treated as something tenuous by society and the courts, something that men can be denied the right to if they fail to provide (in other words, succeed within the capitalist framework). Child support is often f…
/r/MensRights27/05/21 11:09 PM
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Nah. Trump's a uniquely shitty president. If he wasn't so incompetent he botched the COVID response he'd still be president right now.
/r/MensRights18/04/21 06:01 AM
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Wait, because Trump is known for hanging out in girls' changing rooms at beauty contests?
/r/MensRights17/04/21 06:09 PM
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I mean, you can go read about it here.
/r/MensRights17/04/21 05:21 PM
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Trump said he was a "terrific guy."
/r/MensRights17/04/21 05:18 PM
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Nah. They were.
/r/MensRights17/04/21 04:50 PM
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Epstein was also friends with Trump - but I guess that doesn't count, right?
/r/MensRights16/04/21 04:18 PM
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It's not the "woman hate," it's the braindead screenshots of social media for quick karma. Regardless of my agreement or disagreement with what this sub's about, the level of discourse is childlike.
/r/MensRights15/04/21 11:15 PM
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For your proof that somehow those of us on the left are more supporting of pedophilia than those on the right.
/r/MensRights15/04/21 09:14 PM
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Still waiting lol
/r/MensRights15/04/21 08:51 PM
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That sucks. I was raised by a mother and a father, and definitely had problems there too (my mother was extremely emotionally cold to any boy over the age of about 10, when they stopped being cute to her). I'm not saying that widows can't be bad parents, I'm saying that unless they're murderers they didn't make the choice to be a widow.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/04/21 06:19 PM
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You literally don't know the definition of an invalid argument lol
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/04/21 04:23 AM
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Widow is a subset of single mom.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/04/21 12:21 AM
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Widows exist, ergo you're wrong even by your own standards.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/04/21 11:37 PM
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Nah, look at Al Franken. It has a lot to do with the integrity of the person involved.
/r/MensRights07/03/21 03:44 AM
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We care though, because the foes they were fighting would have destroyed Brock Lesnar in a fair fight too.
/r/MensRights01/02/21 04:33 AM
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Because Trump was worse. His treatment of the Central Park Five was monstrous. OP's post is old news that is mostly a propaganda piece, with little relation to what Biden's actually going to be doing, but Trump very much wanted to put other men in prison for crimes he knew they didn't commit.
/r/MensRights01/02/21 04:30 AM
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I'm very aware of them. There's one in my home town, it did exactly what I described.
/r/MensRights22/01/21 06:23 PM
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There's no perfect solution, but one example is how Trump wanted to give government funds directly to the students (their parents) rather than the schools, so the parents could decide which school to send their kids to. That doesn't work, though, because the charter/private schools will deny students who are high-effort. Public teachers unions are against charter schools for selfish reasons. They say it's to protect the kids, but really it's to protect their control over the education system in …
/r/MensRights21/01/21 11:26 PM
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How do you do that without putting low-income, minority, and struggling boys in educational ghettos?
/r/MensRights21/01/21 06:12 PM
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I mean it's just not worth it to explain how charter schools work and impart school demographics to someone who's probably a fan of them specifically because they produce unequal outcomes in education.
/r/MensRights21/01/21 12:56 AM
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Yeah they do. That's the whole point. If I'm wrong I'm sure you're going to have loads of sources of charter schools not doing what I describe... but I'll be waiting a long time.
/r/MensRights20/01/21 10:44 PM
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Charter schools and private schools are used to lock them out of the quality of education that they deserve. DeVos was a big proponent of this movement. She also supported a very predatory model of student loans, which disproportionately affects men/boys because female students have more scholarship money available to them.
/r/MensRights20/01/21 09:32 PM
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Hard-up means "impoverished" which I am using metaphorically in this case.
/r/MensRights20/01/21 09:12 PM
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Yup. On the positive side, ending DeVos's policies will help low income and minority boys, who are particularly hard-up by the education system.
/r/MensRights20/01/21 08:27 PM
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I really, really think you should be posting new information. It's not worth it for you to do this. Also, the use of all caps and misspellings in the title is just trashy.
/r/MensRights09/01/21 12:17 AM
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Citation on that?
/r/MensRights08/01/21 11:31 PM
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OP, this is old news. It's been posted and talked about extensively in this sub already.
/r/MensRights08/01/21 11:30 PM
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I do all right. I also don't do my best to destroy the working class.
/r/MensRights05/01/21 04:41 PM
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No. She was an upper-class monster.
/r/MensRights05/01/21 04:37 PM
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She supported the elements of the right that did, and introduced anti-gay legislation (Section 28); she was no friend of free expression (or men) or human rights.
/r/MensRights27/12/20 06:28 PM
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Sure! And it makes her a shitty person who wasn't on our side.
/r/MensRights26/12/20 07:40 PM
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I am not saying she was warm and cuddly but that would not have got the job done either now would it have? You don't have to be warm and cuddly, but advocating for concentration camps for gay men is a bridge too far. I'm old enough to remember when the wall came down, but I was pretty young.
/r/MensRights26/12/20 07:39 PM
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Nah. Margaret Thatcher was a borderline fascist. She wanted to round gay people up and put them in camps, she didn't think that men had any value unless they were rich, etc.
/r/MensRights26/12/20 06:56 PM
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If you could spell I'd take your advice more to heart.
/r/MensRights25/12/20 12:08 AM
2

Why are females so obsessed with mindfulness? Because capitalism is obsessed with mindfulness as a panacea for all of the psychological problems our system puts on people. Feminism is just neoliberalism.
/r/MensRights19/12/20 03:00 AM
1

Believe what you want to believe, I know differently. Do you have any evidence to support that? Surely if that were true so-called "consent education" would have a noticeable effect on rates of rape/sexual assault. FYI, I won’t be reading or responding to any further of your posts here or elsewhere. ☺️ Ah, admitting that your arguments don't hold up to scrutiny. Go practice your beliefs that have no bearing on reality, but please don't vote or involve yourself in public life if you have that lev…
/r/MensRights29/11/20 08:02 PM
1

What, you think sexual assault and rape are synonymous? That's entirely untrue. And surely if I was wrong you'd be able to show how.
/r/MensRights27/11/20 06:19 PM
1

Then consent education would have a noticeable effect on rates of sexual violence... it doesn't. People already know what's up.
/r/MensRights27/11/20 06:17 PM
2

Sexual assault is not the same thing as rape. Anyway, how do you know a crime took place if it wasn't reported? These statistics seem questionable. Especially because we know rape has a higher incidence of false or fraudulent reports than most other crimes.
/r/MensRights27/11/20 08:07 AM
3

You seem to have this misguided notion that the key reason women report a rape is to get back at some guy. For the women who falsely accuse men of rape, that's most commonly it.
/r/MensRights27/11/20 06:44 AM
3

You're describing a fairy tale. Rapists k ow what they've done is rape; getting them to admit it is another story.
/r/MensRights27/11/20 06:43 AM
3

And are you even aware that in situations like date rape the guy doesn’t even think it’s rape when it is? Nah, that isn't really true. Rapists know what consent is, they just ignore it.
/r/MensRights27/11/20 06:43 AM
2

How do we know they are rape victims if they didn't report it?
/r/MensRights27/11/20 06:41 AM
2

By not engaging with this, you're essentially saying thst things like multiple decade-long sentences for false accusations of rape are something uou're ok with. Good to know you're in favor of a corrupt justice system.
/r/MensRights27/11/20 06:40 AM
1

Hey, at least they don't ban me for being left wing like /r/leftwingmaleadvocates lol
/r/MensRights26/11/20 03:37 AM
0

I mean I'm still not wrong.
/r/MensRights26/11/20 01:41 AM
-10

This is by definition not left-wing propaganda. Left vs. right is not about gender roles or status, it's about social class. You could call it progressive, I guess.
/r/MensRights25/11/20 11:46 PM
1

There seems to be, but you're not exactly a worthwhile addition to it.
/r/MensRights23/11/20 11:45 PM
2

Nope. Feminism is in bed with neoliberal capitalism. Feminists are terrified of socialism and fight it every step of the way, because socialism is hostile towards hypergamy.
/r/MensRights10/11/20 09:41 PM
0

Lol Common Core is not rrally connected to feminism.
/r/MensRights10/11/20 09:36 PM
2

I don't mean someone who perpetrated hoaxes; I mean someone who is actually arguing for CRT.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/10/20 02:58 PM
1

What is your opinion on police brutality in general and the Floyd and Taylor killings in particular?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/10/20 02:57 PM
3

Not if the source has every incentive to lie, and a history of doing so.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/10/20 02:56 PM
1

Can you cite an actual publication by someone who self-describes as working within the CRT paradigm, and not some right-wing pro-theocrat rag?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/10/20 01:06 AM
3

Labor trafficking is literally slavery, though. It should shock people.
/r/MensRights20/10/20 06:15 PM
6

Speaking as someone who's worked in the ag industry in California, indentured servitude or labor trafficking is not the norm, but it does happen on occasion.
/r/MensRights19/10/20 09:21 PM
1

But the article also shows that minority male teachers are joining the profession.
/r/MensRights19/10/20 06:48 PM
1

You either quit because of discrimination or you quit because you weren't being paid enough. Either way, you're lying to score internet points.
/r/MensRights19/10/20 06:30 PM
40

Most boys who are trafficked are trafficked for labor, and at least in the US are trafficked across the US/Mexico border. Due to a combination of racism and anti-male sexism, these boys are frequently treated as adults, prematurely, and thus nobody gives a shit.
/r/MensRights19/10/20 04:37 PM
7

Patriarchy is a non-falsifiable hypothesis and thus meaningless. Toxic Masculinity is a useful idea as originally conceived of by Men's Movement folks, but the problemnis its female equivalent is internalized misogyny. You'll notice the different in agency there - in intentalized misogyny, some outside force has corrupted the woman and turned her away from her own enlightened self-interest. In toxic masculinity, the man himself is toxic and he must atone. So it's turned into this idea where it's…
/r/MensRights19/10/20 04:23 PM
13

That is common place, but again men aren't "unwelcome". Bullshit. Men know the situation is hostile to them from the get-go.
/r/MensRights19/10/20 04:20 PM
0

Yup. Lot of bullshit being spread around. /u/patrol720 quit your bullshit.
/r/MensRights19/10/20 04:18 PM
2

Why bring race into it? Is this a sub solely to advocate for white men?
/r/MensRights19/10/20 04:16 PM
1

Well, she probably wasn't painted as a victim everywhere. But there is a very popular snippet from a talk show where women make fun of the whole situation which is very sad. Yes. And those women in particular should be called out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/20 12:57 AM
2

A quick google search can find information that vaccines cause autism too. What's your point?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/20 05:58 PM
1

For the past 25 years people have celebrated Lorena Bobbit, Invited her on TV, and acted like she is the perfect image of a victimized woman. Who? Are they a representative sample of the general population?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/20 05:13 PM
-1

This is incredibly low-value content. Clickbait trash. Get off your shit, /u/okletterhead10
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/10/20 05:11 PM
3

Well, if you acknowledge that traditionalism is also on the right, then yes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/20 04:51 PM
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Black people are 3× more likely to be the perpetrator of a violent crime than white people, but I don't see people saying to black victims, "well, black people are more likely to commit violent crimes than white people, so perhaps black people need to change!". I hear that all the time from the right and people who support police brutality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/20 07:40 AM
3

Yeah, Athena isn't exactly pro-woman; quite the opposite. Aphrodite was the goddess who would help a sister out.
/r/MensRights14/10/20 06:52 PM
2

You should put them up in a post here along with links. No point in keeping that private.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/20 06:36 PM
1

Have you tried talking to a lawyer?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/20 06:35 PM
0

You're either bullshitting or not living in the US. That's a pretty strident violation of the EEOC.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/20 06:19 PM
0

I literally get emails from my agent doing casting calls asking for voiceover auditions that are “mixed racial, not too cis-gender sounding” Yeah I find that hard to believe. I mean maybe a few; but I doubt that's a significant proportion of what's going on.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/20 05:23 PM
2

The OP used the term "lots of people on the left," which is more general and not really falsifiable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/10/20 05:18 PM
3

You need to show how this: Somehow they've associated all white men as intolerant, so they are justified in being intolerant towards us. is true. And /r/askfeminists is not representative.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/20 11:34 PM
-1

I lost my voiceover career to the advertising industry pandering to feminism. What do you mean? That sounds specious. Turn on the news or scroll through YouTube and you’ll find that every single advertisement features a mixed racial woman or a black man. That's just incorrect.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/20 11:33 PM
4

Say what you want, but the right-wing platform has been the side of unity and tolerance. "Mexicans are rapists" is not tolerant. Denying federal disaster funds to California because they didn't vote for Republicans is not a unifying move. To be frank, what you're saying is absolute horseshit and I'd suggest taking another look at the facts.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/20 08:54 PM
3

If as a man, you vote for Trump, you're an idiot. The treatment of the central park 5 shows he's not on our side. Trump is more hostile to the average male in this country than most politically-minded feminists are, even.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/20 08:52 PM
1

Somehow they've associated all white men as intolerant, so they are justified in being intolerant towards us. Doesn't seem to be an accurate assessment of "leftists" in general given the sub you're on.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/20 08:48 PM
0

Buddy maybe proofread your post next time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/20 08:30 PM
2

He's married to a black woman. It explains so much.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/20 07:05 AM
1

I mean there's no way to veridy if that image is legit. This is why posting screenshots of social media is dumb.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/10/20 06:44 PM
5

Feminists, in general, don't believe that, and moreover what advantages or disadvantages your race and sex give you can change based on your social and institutional environment, they are not ineffable. All your paradigm functionally does is enable white college-educated women to siphon off financial support and activist focus that should be directed towards racial minorities. The urge to white knight for the white woman is too strong on the pro-feminist left to trust this sort of thing. It's ki…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/20 10:16 PM
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In Marxist class theory, men and women both oppress other men and women. It has nothing to do with gender and is only tangentially related to race (insofar as capitalism encouraged and enabled slavery in history). Yup. Feminists think that all men oppressed all women, full stop. If you ask them how a white slave-owning woman oppressed a black man in the antebellum south... they'll lose their shit, call you a misogynist troll, etc.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/10/20 01:14 AM
1

How do we know these tweets are real and not just fabricated to prove your point? Link to twitter, not a screenshot.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/20 04:05 PM
3

Post a link to the thread or don't bother. Screenshots of social media will always earn a downvote from me.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/20 04:04 PM
-10

Any actual citations on the use of this word or are you just blowing smoke?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/20 08:30 PM
1

The sentence that starts with "And no..." is a refutation of what you were trying to say. Might want to work on your reading comprehension and working knowledge of statistics.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/20 08:24 PM
1

You are claiming that a cop will summarily execute a black person but not a white person. Where did I claim that?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/20 03:23 PM
5

Especially ironic given that in the UK boys have particularly bad educational outcomes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/20 09:57 PM
1

Yet the police certainly shoot more white than black people, so how can you conclude that they would hesitate to summarily execute a white person? There are more whites than blacks in the US. And no, they kill too many white people (mostly men) too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/20 08:52 PM
2

That's all well and good, but the modern GOP's incredible antipathy towards African-Americans has kept even authoritarian-minded blacks from aligning themselves with the party in large numbers. That hasn't changed; with the current BLM shit going on it's in fact heightened. This concern trolling like white people getting involved in protests stopping the police from summarily executing black men will somehow turn blacks away from the left is disingenuous or just wrongheaded.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/10/20 06:29 AM
3

A bunch of cops summarily executing black people and then being supported by Republican politicians isn't so good for aligning blacks with the right, either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/20 05:30 PM
2

You replied to OP's post, tho.
/r/MensRights02/10/20 04:27 PM
1

I bet OP wants to turn the US into a "kingdom of God."
/r/MensRights02/10/20 01:58 AM
5

So did Ginsburg, and she was pro-choice. Why can't we have someone like her?
/r/MensRights01/10/20 07:55 PM
1

I'm not teolling you, I'm insisting on a basic level of intellectual rigor for you to be taken seriously, and you're deciding against it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/20 07:26 PM
1

As long as you continue to treat this sub like your personal blog it's relevant. Anyway, you're making the argument that no speech can justify your employer firing you, which is untrue. So I suggest you walk that back.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/20 07:14 PM
1

You're misusing the idea that Chomsky is presenting, and I think you are, in fact, ideologically opposed to him. The argument you're making, that there is no speech that can be retaliated against by an employer via firing, is just wrong. Without specific knowledge of what this twitter account was saying, there's no argument to be had.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/20 05:22 PM
2

What's demonstrably true?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/20 05:20 PM
2

Without any actual evidence, no intellectually honest person would support your position.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/20 05:20 PM
2

Fearmongering isn't going to work on me. And it totally matters what the behavior was. If they were using the platform, and their online persona as a black person, to mock and ridicule black people (KANGZ etc) it changes the dynamic considerably.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/20 03:51 PM
2

Well, nobody thoughtful is going to agree with you until they have all the facts.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/20 03:46 PM
1

It's more your insistence that we need to abandon the left because we aren't supportive of feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/20 03:45 PM
2

Ok, but what behavior did this person undertake while using this pseudonym?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/20 06:57 AM
1

It depends on the actual behavior of the account. Which /u/czerdec has omitted, conveniently.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/20 12:16 AM
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You should post them with your post. Otherwise it comes off as trying to give a very slanted version of events.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/20 12:16 AM
2

Okay, but nobody is solely a puppet of their ideology. Have you been reading the stuff he's been posting to this sub?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/20 12:15 AM
1

Czerdec is right-wing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/20 11:25 PM
1

Didn't violate it in that post, so I'm unclear as to what you want.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/09/20 02:25 AM
1

What's our recourse on this sub if someone is arguing in bad faith, like OP is?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/20 11:11 PM
1

I am well aware that environmental factors can affect biology. Apparently not, when you said that genetics was all that accounts for variation in certain aspects of human behavior. You need to clarify the steps that bring you from "environmental factors can affect biology" to "Judith Butler is correct that gender is not simply the behavioral component of biological sex, but something else" I'm not trying to prove her right. I think you're both wrong.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/20 08:46 PM
1

It's just flat-out inaccurate; moreover, it's in denial about how social/environmental factors can affect our biology. You subject someone to stress, their hormones change, and this affects how nurturing they are. This is basic stuff, and you're in denial about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/20 07:46 PM
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I'll believe it when I see it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/20 07:35 PM
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You haven't given citations to anyone. Good to know that your ideas are just self-absorbed navel gazing and not backed up by science. Go educate yourself on basic developmental biology and get back to us.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/20 07:34 PM
1

Really? Do you criticize the right's use of austerity economics on the same grounds?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/20 07:25 PM
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You asked for citations elsewhere. So in order to be seen as anything other than a petulant, entitled child, you should do us the same courtesy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/20 07:23 PM
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Not based on anything you have said on this thread, I'm not. You haven't said anything relevant to my argument. I have, because you claimed that the only biological factors involved were genetic, which is at best a high-school level understanding of biology. let's see your evidence. Biology only, social studies are worthless If someone has a psychological study which shows a psychological impact on human nurturing behavior, that would be relevant. Putting forth a point and then saying that dispr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/20 07:22 PM
6

Where's your citation for the 1-2% figure?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/20 07:05 PM
1

You're incorrect on your points, including the idea that genetic factors are the sole driver of nurturing behavior for humans. Epigenetics and womb environment both have a number of biological effects on human behavior, and early-life events can have significant effects on attachment styles and relationship behavior. Put simply, you're explicitly wrong, and I say that as someone who thinks that biology has a lot to do with the different behaviors between the sexes. If you're coming at this from …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/20 06:59 PM
2

Random variation below the level of statistical significance will always be with us, because DNA is subject to random mutations, and this accounts for the tiny percentage of men who instinctively prefer the behavioral patterns instinctive to women. Are you a biologist?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/20 05:37 PM
1

Yeah but how would your petition affect the governor.
/r/MensRights29/09/20 03:35 PM
4

How would your petition do anything?
/r/MensRights29/09/20 07:32 AM
3

Why didn't you link to the article, OP? Why would you just post a screenshot? This is useless.
/r/MensRights29/09/20 07:30 AM
6

This is an extremely low-effort post.
/r/MensRights29/09/20 07:29 AM
0

Was it locked because of OP and his supporters or because we didn't give them a warm enough welcome?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/20 09:14 PM
1

Dude just go look in the "why are you left wing" thread.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/20 08:09 PM
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One of the things I've noticed about men who are very much into performative feminism, is they have a lot of trouble socializing with other men. Like they view all other men as threats; they're actually hypercompetitive and toxic, they just want it to be a competition where the least traditionally masculine man wins.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/20 03:37 AM
4

Sure, you'd vote for the guy who took out a full-page ad calling for the punishment of the Central Park Five. Super pro-male right there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/20 03:35 AM
1

Because the mods are right-wing and want to destroy the sub.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/20 03:33 AM
1

And there you go, deleting your account like a coward.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/20 03:32 AM
1

And the mods are deleting posts of people who criticize him.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/20 03:31 AM
1

Spare the semantics, you know what I mean. There wasn't a single Republican who condoned or justified his murder. Your claim is just outright false. I know some. And the semantics are important, as they show you're spectacularly misinformed. Do you or do you not agree that more funding would lead to better training and recruitment of police? It would not. Police aren't just under-trained, they're mis-trained. Moreover, they shouldn't be the ones responding to things like mental health calls, and…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/20 03:27 AM
1

Have the Republicans proposed Bills which would allow police to shoot people without consequences? As far as I know every Republican, including Trump, suggested that the George Floyd shooters should be charged for murder. Then you don't know much, because George Floyd wasn't shot. Not wanting to defund the police doesn't mean they want to increase police brutality. In fact it sounds like the problem is that police need more funding to conduct better training and recruitment which would lead to l…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/20 02:04 AM
1

I wouldn't really call Abraham Lincoln conservative by definiton. He wanted to abolish a long-standing societal practice for America's own good. That's the opposite of conservatism. For a more recent example, the Republican party's bloodthirsty support for the right of the police to summarily execute people, especially black men, is a good example of how they despise personal liberty.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/20 12:58 AM
1

Nope. You ever watch In Bruge? You're like the dwarf in that film.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/20 06:52 PM
1

As a Californian, my team includes plenty of non-whites.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/20 06:47 PM
6

As a leftist, I'm not interested in seeing any race's needs get prioritized.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/20 06:44 PM
12

The Republicans want to harm me, some elements among the left/Democrats want to harm me. But basically everyone who's supportive of me is on the left.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/20 05:38 PM
1

I think right winger are more pro equal rights than leftists. The right wing's support of the police's right to summarily execute black men gives this the lie.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/20 05:35 PM
4

It was waved in my face as "men bad" when I was a kid.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/20 05:32 PM
1

It never reversed. The right is just lying about being tolerant.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/20 04:55 PM
2

The thing is, it's not like the right offers an alternative that's not morally bankrupt.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/20 04:53 PM
20

People on the American right are actually making it worse, OP. There's no "pro-male" movement on the American right. They're pro .1%, pro-Christian, etc, but that doesn't mean they will help me or other men. The American left has more ideals that I am in tune with.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/20 04:53 PM
1

There's no question in there asking them to support their statement. Just an insinuation they're a liar. That's you. Seriously, stop lying.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/20 03:34 AM
0

As per some of my recent interactions, the mod staff is fairly hostile towards left-wing ideals as well. I think the sub founder is AWOL, that might have something to do with it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/20 09:01 PM
1

Lol you can't even back up your points. You're the perfect example of the degeneration of the modern American right into a bunch of squealing children.
/r/MensRights24/09/20 08:32 PM
0

I'm sure you could point to the lines in the article where it documents what you're saying if you had any meaningful intellectual ability.
/r/MensRights24/09/20 07:59 PM
1

Eh, I was a bit of a gator and I despise Trump. I was an antifeminist before that though.
/r/MensRights24/09/20 03:55 PM
0

No. Nowhere in that article does it say the left opposes it. Who taught you to read? They did a shit job.
/r/MensRights24/09/20 03:53 PM
0

Where in there does it say the left, as a group, opposes a post-pandemic restriction of travel? The WHO does, but they're not the American left.
/r/MensRights23/09/20 06:48 PM
0

Where in that article does it say that people on the left are opposed to a travel ban?
/r/MensRights23/09/20 05:10 PM
2

It looks like both Bush and Obama used a lot of the reserves up without replenishing them. If you read the article, it notes that congress was unwilling to fund replenishment of the stockpile, and that the Obama administration prioritized other things besides N95 masks. Hindsight is 20/20, but I'm sure you can guess which side of the aisle thought that funding it was unnecessary. I will not refute the part with trump gutting the task force. I don't know the full story for that. The specific part…
/r/MensRights23/09/20 05:19 AM
2

Lol, no, they didn't. When he banned entry from Covid positive countries, the left lost their minds. If that's true I'm sure you can show me where he did that and people on the left reacted as you say, after the pandemic hit.
/r/MensRights23/09/20 05:12 AM
1

No, everyone on the left claimed he was underreacting. Shutting down the borders would have been a great step. But Republicans are allergic to that if it's going to hurt the bottom lines of the wealthy.
/r/MensRights23/09/20 03:07 AM
5

You didn't ask that question. Anyway: "Police brutality is now a leading cause of death for black men and boys in the US."here
/r/MensRights23/09/20 03:05 AM
2

You got a citation for that? Because everything else I've read has said the opposite. There was also a pandemic task force which Trump cut.
/r/MensRights23/09/20 03:02 AM
1

They were an ongoing monitoring effort.
/r/MensRights22/09/20 08:12 PM
1

I despise Trump, but to play devil's advocate, was that Trump who caused that or was it going to happen anyway?
/r/MensRights22/09/20 07:49 PM
3

I say that about Hillary Clinton. AOC at least has the intellectual honesty to say that police brutality is a problem with disproportionately male victims, unlike Clinton's "women are the primary victims of war" speech.
/r/MensRights22/09/20 07:36 PM
2

Pandemic preparations that left us completely unprepared. Because Trump gutted them.
/r/MensRights22/09/20 07:34 PM
1

DeVos is also gutting the primary education system in a way that will mostly affect boys (or at least disproportionately so). The Title IX thing was a case of a broken clock.
/r/MensRights22/09/20 07:34 PM
4

Well the problem with Trump is his stance on the Central Park 5. He's not a friend to other men.
/r/MensRights22/09/20 07:32 PM
1

I disagree, I think it's very widely held.
/r/MensRights16/09/20 07:27 PM
2

I'm not going to take an unsourced claim on faith.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/09/20 07:29 AM
1

I've literally never seen or heard of it. Black people I know would look at you funny because the term is outdated but it's not considered offensive.
/r/MensRights14/09/20 07:47 PM
2

I'm from the US and I've never seen it. MLK used the term in his speeches.
/r/MensRights14/09/20 07:25 PM
1

It at least isn't a dealbreaker. Which is a problem, considering he's the Commander-In-Chief.
/r/MensRights14/09/20 08:15 AM
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I think what he meant is that reparations would be a legislative clusterfuck depending on how you handled the redistribution of said wealth. For example, a solid proportion of caucasian peoples may not be able to afford it, and so the burden would fall onto upper middle class white families. Well it'd be coming from federal money, so the tax burden of it would be shared by the country as a whole. Now, it's true that the tax burden in this country disproportionately hits working class folks, but …
/r/MensRights14/09/20 06:46 AM
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I’d rather have fewer rich people die, as long as no more middle class Americans do. That's not on the table, unfortunately.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/20 12:00 AM
3

What do you mean?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/20 11:57 PM
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I don't want to disproportionately help those with access to medical care in our current broken system survive. I'm not donating blood.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/20 11:47 PM
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Eh, except it'll be disproportionately used to protect the wealthy from this pandemic. Old, wealthy people need to die too for this to be fair.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/09/20 09:50 PM
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I mean America elected an executive who has disdain for the rank and file of the armed forces - it shows OP's opinion is in the minority, is my point.
/r/MensRights13/09/20 09:22 PM
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Sure, but most black Americans have enslaved ancestors (and a decent amount of "white" Americans too), and it's not like race-based access to wealth stopped when the civil war ended.
/r/MensRights13/09/20 08:15 PM
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Reparations for black Americans make way more sense than feminism.
/r/MensRights13/09/20 07:19 PM
2

Like the US president?
/r/MensRights13/09/20 07:16 PM
2

With you on "retard" and "retarded," but I don't think I've ever heard anyone be upset with someone for using the word "Negro." It's seen as antiquated, but not offensive.
/r/MensRights13/09/20 07:14 PM
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I don't think feminism is inclusive of all women, but if you look at the ideological underpinnings of the movement, it's all tied up in an intense antipathy to men. Nit all women who describe as feminism have this animus towards men, but in not doing so they're contradicting the ideology.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/20 08:37 PM
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If you ask people in subs like menslib about why they primarily couch toxic masculinity as immoral behavior on the part of men, it seems to be (in their own words) thst they don't want men to be "let off the hook" for their own behavior. More important than truth or actually solving the problem is shaming and blaming men. This is why feminism will never solve these problems; the movement is more interested in tormenting men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/20 07:47 PM
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How do we know this isn't satire? OP, this is pretty pathetic. All of you replying believing it at face value are suckers.
/r/MensRights08/09/20 07:56 PM
3

I agree. But there's not much room for discussion because we already agree. Post this to a feminist sub to watch them blow a gasket and twist themselves into knots trying to deny that it's feminism that's causing a lot of these problems.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 05:02 PM
1

So you're saying if your dad's a criminal, your mom's a criminal, your siblings are criminals, you deserve to be thrown in jail even if you commit no crime because you're part of a group that disproportionally does?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 07:48 AM
2

If you think that blacks are disproportionally arrested on bogus charges (and that seems very plausible to me) those statistics are inherently tainted.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 07:44 AM
1

It has quite a bit of bearing, since the vast majority of police shooting victims are violent criminals. I'm sure that's what the police would like you to believe.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 07:43 AM
1

The most what or sociopathic men? Get your language straight.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/09/20 07:38 AM
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It's an issue of bias because people (mostly men) who are nonviolent are brutalized by police. If even someone as outspokenly feminist as Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez can see it, you have to be an absolute ideologue to not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/20 07:33 PM
1

What did you post? Also posts about your being banned or not from another sub are extremely low quality. I find myself struggling to care.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/20 02:54 AM
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Your post is rambling and obtuse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/20 01:55 AM
2

You seem like you're talking about the wrong sub, using "MensRights" in your title.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/20 06:05 AM
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To me the idea of the patriarchy seems like a nonfalsifiable hypothesis. Women mistreated by the justice system? Patriarchy. Women treated with privilege by the justice system? Benevolent sexism, also patriarchy. I wonder what someone who believes in said patriarchy would say if they were asked for a hypothetical fact that would disprove the patriarchy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/20 07:07 AM
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What? Plenty of women diet and exercise for aesthetic reasons as well. I reject your argument.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/20 04:01 PM
23

Ok I don't disagree, but are you just venting or...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/20 06:55 PM
2

It's funny, because blind auditions have done wonders for the racial diversity of orchestras (especially with respect to Asians). But that's all worth sacrificing so white women can be pleased, apparently...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/20 01:50 AM
3

What OP posted is talking about polygyny in the context of royalty.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/20 03:41 AM
4

Patriarchy and royalty are not the same thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/20 02:07 AM
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That's not really an accurate description of patriarchy outside of the feminist context; that would more refer to the idea that older men are the rulers/senior members of families. Patriarchy is not the same thing as hierarchy in general.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/20 01:51 AM
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These people are called "feminists."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/20 06:13 PM
2

There isn't anybody out there actually telling you that you can't do these things. There are people who will socially isolate you for doing it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/20 06:33 AM
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Because society at large gaslights us about what our experiences with women are.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/20 09:32 PM
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The views expressed about women on this sub are in contravention to the mainstream social current that is antipathic towards any amount of moral responsibility on the part of women. Right now a good friend of mine is dealing with a (very feminist) ex girlfriend keying his car and making up stories of abuse because he broke up with her. He has to move and not tell her where she's moving to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/20 07:42 PM
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The other possibility is that its a test. On a subconscious level, they know that it will turn them off if they see weakness. But they also want to make sure that their man isn't weak. So they tell him they want him to open up and show emotions, because they want to see if hes weak or not. This process is subliminal. Its not like women are consciously thinking to themselves "I better see if my boyfriend is a loser." Its an instinctual, subliminal process. They dont even realize theyre doing it. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/08/20 06:54 PM
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A lot of women think that's the highest that men who aren't in the top 10% of attractiveness can aspire to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/20 01:12 PM
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By "babby daddy" he clearly meant a provider as well as a sperm donor. If a woman does run in that context, she's gonna want child support.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/20 12:32 PM
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Eh, in said dating/relationship advice threads I always see women saying that if they make the first move guys lose interest. In my life I also see women shamed by other women for being too forward much more than by men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/20 12:30 PM
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You can take the quotes off that use of the word feminism. It's not hypocritical to the ideology at all that men be required to provide for women; you're mistaking it for an ideology that's interested in honest equality.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/20 12:23 PM
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Good points being made, but this woman needs to get a better editor.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/20 08:54 PM
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Neither. Why are you acting like Marxism is a problem, and acting like reparations for the descendants of slaves is evil?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/20 10:32 PM
2

It's also a right-wing meme.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/20 10:31 PM
2

This is an extraordinarily misinforming and low-effort post.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/20 04:24 PM
1

So we all know by now that BLM is a feminist marxists ran organization that launders money sort of speak for various political agendas What? none if which have any positive effect on black male life Huh?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/20 04:23 PM
1

Even if it were true, which it isn't, it's not helpful to women or to men to internally feel that this the historical dynamic of the sexes. I dispute that. I don't think that it's true, but if it were true, we should be clear about it. Propaganda is never the answer.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/20 05:54 PM
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Well in fairness I do not believe that this is a core message of feminism Have you read the Seneca Falls stuff, or any of the seminal 2nd-wave feminist works?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/20 07:08 PM
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What I described was always the core message of feminism, and is particularly prevalent in the ideological movers and shakers of the movement. People you know in real life who don't have that attitude don't have it in spite of being feminists, not because of it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/20 05:06 PM
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I don't really understand your example with gender bases advocacy, can you explain that? Basically feminists who, while acknowledging that male victims of domestic violence are victims (as opposed to the ones who just deny it), refuse to give any attention and oppose the allocation of societal resources for their benefit, because they view it as a zero-sum game and that all available resources must go to women until their problems are solved. I think it would be helpful if that overlapped more, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/20 01:33 AM
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Did you just say that "us vs. them" is not helpful and then said that a lot of feminists do that? It is not that I disagree but only saying one side does that - in regards to that comment it is kind of funny. But man, look at the other subreddits like Mensrights or MGTOW - boooy that shits crazy too! I'm not saying that it's exclusive to feminists, but more that it seems verboten to acknowledge that when they do it. Rather then seeing something as a problem that affects only one group we should …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/20 11:33 PM
1

And it is not helpful if we have this us vs. them mentality or trying to see who has it worse Well, it's actually important to recognize when someone else has an "us vs. them" mentality (many feminists), and to consider whether you can resolve the situation without mirroring that. Also, certain groups do have it worse in certain circumstances. Like in the case of police brutality in the US - men have it worse than women, blacks and Native Americans have it worse than whites, but it doesn't stop …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/20 10:55 PM
1

Society? Society disadvantages ugly people in general. Are you one of those "you can't be sexist against men" types?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/20 09:15 PM
1

And black people can rightfully be bitter about the system, I don't want to argue that for a second. And men who aren't getting dates can be bitter about the system. What's your point?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/20 08:05 PM
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I mean, most women (including feminist women) believe that women have the right to revoke any man's "man card," functionally, and that this is moral and proper and that men who complain about it are immature and worthy of scorn. Also holy shit one of these replies to Lahren's video, had me dying: The sound of dying ovaries. Get off the pill. Stop screwing around. You are relative attractive because made you that way. God made you that way. He made you that way to attract a man. To get married. T…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/20 07:32 PM
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Someone should post this to menslib and watch them reeee lol.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/20 07:26 PM
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This is misinformation, OP.
/r/MensRights04/08/20 04:28 AM
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Considering the police tend to lock up male victims of domestic abuse, I don't think they'd be a help here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/20 07:52 PM
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Well, at a certain point people are going to read things a given way regardless of the circumstances. Hollander killed an actual MRA attorney, and didn't kill a female judge, but people are going to act like it was an attack on women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/20 06:24 PM
2

What happened to George Floyd was on video.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/20 07:06 PM
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Yet police isconstrained by a set of rules. Very little, it turns out. Summary executions of mostly men are apparently on the table.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/20 07:34 AM
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Sometimes you have a duty to retreat. Moreover, cops in general are not fans of people's right to self defense.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/20 06:34 AM
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You think so ... chances are no one would support men while young women would have alot of white knights. Police generally support existing power structures very heavily, including male disposability.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/20 06:34 AM
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so imagine if she knew there was no law enforcement You'd be much freer to retaliate, in that case.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/20 05:53 PM
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Yeah, your sympathy for the police is unwarranted. They'd be the ones doing proxy violence for her if she leveraged her pussy pass into it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/20 05:34 PM
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It doesn't though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/20 05:33 PM
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You can't call an atheist an Islamophobe in good faith.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/20 05:26 PM
0

lol someone's salty.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/20 05:24 PM
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Ironic, considering that Trump was a big proponent of the miscarriage of justice that affected the Central Park 5. Trump is not your friend, as a man. In fact, the only candidate who took the time to say good things about men recently was Yang.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/20 04:58 PM
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Without context there's no reason to think your screenshot isn't staged. I can't support a post made with cherry-picked screenshots.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 06:46 PM
1

Wait, where's the evidence for it, then?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 06:45 PM
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I'm not saying I disagree with you, but do you have a study on that? It'd be useful to have that information.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 06:01 PM
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Results: Based on limited studies, high levels of testosterone are related to increased rates of depression as well as hypomania, whereas low levels of testosterone are related to depressive disorders in certain subpopulations of patients. There is insufficient evidence to conclude that low testosterone level routinely leads to major depressive disorder in men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 03:49 AM
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First, this is an appeal to incredulity, which is a logical fallacy. It's not, because I wasn't making an absolute statement, merely commenting on my own perceptions. Second, there's a variety of common misconceptions regarding hemispheric specialization advocated by laypeople who lack a proper understanding of the nature and limitations of the research in this area. Sure, but people making sweeping pop-psych comments about brain hemispheric function isn't necessarily a category that has to excl…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/20 03:43 AM
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Here. The important thing to take away is that it's not necessarily major depression, and it seems like certain men are affected more than others. PubMed is a pretty easy search; why didn't you do this yourself?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/20 11:09 PM
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The brain localization of sound processing sounds specious with what I know of brain hemisphere localization. I'd disagree with the assessment of biological determinism as conservative; the "socially constructed" idea posits instead that certain relatively immutable characteristics of people are instead morphic, and castigates people for not adhering to certain norms when it's just not in their nature. If David Reimer or Ernest Hemingway were suicidal due to being feminized by abusers in their c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/20 11:04 PM
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With a scar like that across half his face, he will get ZERO attention from women. Women loves a little scar there and there, it looks badass, but a real big scar across the face and they're out. Depends on the culture/time. Probably not gonna fly too well in the West over here. Anyway, I feel hella bad for this little kid. A childhood friend of mine was attacked by a dog when he was six, had his lower lip shredded, had to get plastic surgery to repair it and had anxiety disorders afterwards for…
/r/MensRights15/07/20 08:28 PM
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You're a trans man, right? No, I'm cis.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/20 09:09 PM
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Well, it's a possible explanation for why men are better at parking cars than women, on average.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/20 08:53 PM
3

In theory, better visual-spatial reasoning.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/20 07:35 PM
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I hesitate to call that the central ideological proposition, because I'm sure there are many feminists who don't actually believe that. I mean if you called them out on it, they won't admit it, but their actions typically play it out. Women are morally pure and good unless they've been corrupted by incorporating misogyny and patriarchy into their worldview, and men are inherently evil rape-monsters unless they've been "saved" by feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/20 07:06 PM
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Given one of the rules is that "unproductive criticism of feminism is not allowed", and that "unproductive" is never defined, it basically amounts to a blanket permission to ban anything and everything that remotely comes close to criticizing feminism if they so feel like it that day. They deleted a post thread that said that women fetishized male expression of emotion in relationships. It wasn't even political, but it was men talking about their experience being emotionally open and dating - de…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/20 06:47 PM
3

"Karen" could potentially be construed as sexist, but the archetypal Karen is only white because American society has "white" as the default. I think black or latina Karens seem reasonable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/20 05:49 PM
1

without looking like an asshole? Just state it. There's people who will call you can asshole, of course, because they hate the idea that you're suggesting that all advocacy effort shouldn't be spent supporting white women, but fuck them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/20 09:23 PM
1

There's a growing awareness / revival that the underlying issue is class, not race or gender. Feminism is doing pretty well at quashing this idea.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/20 09:22 PM
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Sounds like the kind of woman that should be avoided. I agree, but in order to avoid them you have to talk about them so you can be aware of them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/20 10:02 PM
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Fundamentally what you're ignoring is that there are women who want to play hard to get, and fundamentally are phobic about sex and want the guy to take the responsibility for the sex act. For these women, giving affirmative consent is a massive turnoff. And places like menslib don't want to talk about that because criticizing individual women or women as a class is verboten.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/20 07:35 PM
1

Let's also talk about Trump and his opinions on the Central Park 5. Biden might not be ideal for male leftists but he's better than Trump; I voted for Sanders in the primary but Yang was the best from a purely male perspective.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/20 07:32 PM
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They're not critical of femininity. They're critical of what they think society has foisted upon women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/07/20 08:45 PM
2

Did I say all women are voiceless or did I say I was? You implied they were. Is that not what you meant? The idea that a woman being voiceless is a state a man could never understand is just wrong, and can only really come from a self-centered, childlike point of view. Your good faith doesn't mean a thing when you misrepresent my comments and insult me with a typical misogynist insult. There is nothing childlike about my argument. Can't say the same about yours. Get off your shit.
/r/MensRights02/07/20 05:36 AM
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The irony of men feeling suppressed in this sub is they will never know what it is like to be a voiceless woman whose never going to enjoy these "privileges". The idea that all women are voiceless and men are privileged is just childlike selfishness. I can't support that viewpoint in good faith.
/r/MensRights02/07/20 01:46 AM
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Use your head; don't you think it's a bit late for that? Nope.
/r/MensRights02/07/20 01:45 AM
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It's in this sub.
/r/MensRights01/07/20 06:00 PM
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Why don't you just link to the fucking post?
/r/MensRights01/07/20 05:57 PM
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You are wrong. You should honestly just delete your post.
/r/MensRights01/07/20 05:49 PM
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And this is why posting screenshots to this sub lowers the quality of the discourse immensely...
/r/MensRights01/07/20 05:48 PM
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I'm routinely amazed by the low quality of discourse on this sub. It's like people want to keep the MRM dumb.
/r/MensRights29/06/20 07:33 PM
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I understand what feminists mean when they say "the patriarchy." Really? "Patriarchy Theory" is an oxymoron. It's non-falsifiable and has no predictive power.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/20 06:26 PM
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Posts like your should be banned on the sub.
/r/MensRights27/06/20 07:39 PM
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Or, perhaps, I've taken it out of context to protect the identity of my friend? And I would suggest it is a catalyst for discussion as it sums up quite a widely accepted viewpoint quite well. Then make a self post explaining the situation. That's much more valid.
/r/MensRights27/06/20 06:50 PM
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And the reason criticising feminism has to be limited is because in many other MRA hubs, it quickly becomes a guy's only personality to froth with rage at either feminism in abstract or specific feminisms and feminists and feminist things. Nah, we need to move the left away from feminism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/20 06:10 PM
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I have absolutely no reason to think that OP isn't fabricating this for karma. It's a social media post taken out of context, it shouldn't even be a catalyst for discussion, it should just be ignored. Have some intellectual self-respect.
/r/MensRights27/06/20 06:07 PM
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I think in fighting one, you fight the other.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/20 07:57 AM
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Yuuup. And it's not like women need to change; just fucking admit that what they're attracted to is primarily composed of amoral factors. But no, they have to pretend that they're moral about it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/06/20 02:19 AM
0

That OP shouldn't make out of context low-effort posts.
/r/MensRights25/06/20 07:21 PM
0

Or it's entirely fabricated by OP. Why does everyone trust this shit?
/r/MensRights25/06/20 07:03 PM
1

And have you seen the comment in question on the article?
/r/MensRights25/06/20 06:55 PM
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Low-effort social media repost brigade getting salty, I guess.
/r/MensRights25/06/20 06:47 PM
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Then why didn't he link to the actual article?
/r/MensRights25/06/20 06:46 PM
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How do we know OP didn't make this post for the karma?
/r/MensRights25/06/20 03:46 AM
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Lol and that's why I'm here and in /r/mensrights but have been banned from menslib. Here's the thing - the right is inimical to the rights of men. Trump's opinion on the Central Park 5? Should disqualify him from the support of any self-respecting man who isn't a massive racist. The sexual abuse of boys and young men that Jim Jordan covered up? Similar. Acting like the right has mens' collective backs is just wrong. Nobody on the right does, really. Some people on the left do (Yang was the best …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/20 01:59 AM
1

Exactly... so how has the right committed mass murder? Naziism is the easy answer there. You think CNN is unbiased. Really? When I said "They aren't unbiased..." Can you read? Some people in this reddit I honestly cant believe how they are against feminsim... you literally are feminism You have no idea what you're talking about. You've realized that you don't have any cogent points and are just trying to sling shit. If you went through my post history it'd be easy for you to determine that I'm a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/20 12:07 AM
1

And the left lead to 100 million dead under socialism? Under socialism? No, no it didn't. Under Stalinism and Maoism. Weak argument. What, you think that right wing people have never committed mass murder, and aren't generally pro-hierarchy? That's the definition of right-wing - the idea that the law protects those it does not bind, and binds those it does not protect. George Flloyd, Yes based on race she thinks they shouldn't be angry Which is infuriating to a lot of black people because they k…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/20 09:30 PM
2

No wouldn't say she is right wing She always adopts the furthest right viewpoint that's acceptable in any particular argument space. not that right wing is inherently bad It is. That way lies monarchism and hierarchical totalitarianism. That's inimical to how I want to live my life. she is most certainly not identity politics... she is literally the exact opposite of that She's against black people advocating for their rights as a class - in this case their right to life and not be summarily exe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/20 09:12 PM
2

I think Candace Owens is probably the biggest threat to feminism out there and to the crazy left (not the sensible left) Eh, her support of summary executions by police means she can't be anything except right-wing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/20 08:41 PM
2

Marijuana and cocaine are not poisonous narcotics.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/20 03:34 AM
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Would they dump a female player whose husband gave a similar rant? I don't think so.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/20 09:15 PM
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But I don't know if they will take their advice of "If it ain't about you, move on" in practice if it were men saying to women. A lot of them probably wouldn't. Think about how many men, out of all men in the world that you've met, you really get along with. Why wouldn't you be similarly selective about women?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/20 03:35 AM
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Legitimately, there are a lot of women like you describe, and the culture is such that calling them out on their lack of compassion and general selfishness will get you labeled as sexist. That said, it's not an inherent trait of women, and it's not all women. Travel. Get out (once this COVID situation dies down). Go see the world. There are good parts to it too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/20 12:14 AM
1

And what's worse, it seems to be shifting more to focusing on women, despite starting because of a black man. I keep seeing images and headlines and Snapchat stories focusing on black women specifically. Like the image of some black women who have been killed in the past several years, with the text "Say her name", or a Snapchat story with a black woman holding a "WE can't breathe" sign, and so on. Fuck everything about that. It's bad enough that people have turned this into a racial issue inste…
/r/MensRights08/06/20 09:32 PM
2

I've been preaching this all week, and no one outside of this subreddit gives a shit. I either get downvoted with no responses, or I get some generic thing like, "Stop trying to make this about you" or "Stop trying to distract from the primary issue." Imagine the irony of that latter response. I point out that being a man is 10 times the risk factor of being black, and I get told I am distracting from the primary issue......in response to me proving that being black is not the primary issue. In …
/r/MensRights08/06/20 09:31 PM
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There's denial on the left of how bad communism is and of the scientific support for nuclear power; there's denial on the right of climate change and of why we're having lockdowns in the pandemic. The presumptive Democratic nominee here is definitely not a communist and supports nuclear energy. In particular, Republicans don't think for themselves because they're submissive authoritarians, for the most part. I see varying levels of dogmatism among the Democratic party in the US.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/05/20 05:44 PM
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I see a variety of viewpoints in the Democratic party. I identify as a leftist, and I am a registered Democratic voter because it's there I find candidates who most closely align with my views. I have voted for a few Republicans at the local level in the past, but I will no longer - it's clear that the organization has a corrupt ethos and is rotten to the core.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/20 08:39 PM
2

Yup. It's not only men who are the victims... but men do make up the majority of the victims of violence in this country.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/20 08:36 PM
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Yup. Loads of pro-feminist subs DO NOT want this discussed.
/r/MensRights28/05/20 08:22 PM
1

I'm tired of people being labelled left and right. It stops the majority from thinking for themselves. It's a meaningful distinction, and it's important for understanding why some people crave being subservient to strongman leaders.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/20 06:49 AM
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Debating wouldn't look good for you, no.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 10:13 PM
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Who do you define as a "leftist"? What delineates them from a "rightist"? Going back to where the ideas originated in the French government, rightists seek to perpetuate historic and traditional hierarchies and forms of social stratification, and leftists seek to level the field. Is one a democrat and the other republican? Almost all leftists in the US are part of the Democratic party, though obviously there's extreme left that thinks the Democratic party isn't left-wing enough for them and so o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 10:00 PM
3

That would be incredibly disingenuous on your part. What about over the last forty years? In any case, the equality of people despite their social class or race is a core tenet of leftist philosophy, and opposition to it is a core tenet of rightist philosophy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 09:39 PM
4

Playing the Devils advocate maybe Amy did feel genuine fear and wanted to call the cops for help, maybe she has some parinoid disorder who knows ?? If your disorder causes you to put others in harms' way, that's a problem. An alcoholic who drives drunk and endangers people is a criminal. A paranoid who tries to use police violence against people who try to make them follow the park rules should be a criminal too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 07:11 PM
2

What, and you think the Republicans are glorious egalitarians? Besides, Democrats aren't necessarily left-wing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 04:49 PM
3

Aight, you're clearly not following it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 07:59 AM
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Also, check out the Dollop about Emmeline Pankhurst. The Suffragists wanted voting rights for educated women, not working class. Do you have a link for this? There's a leftwing elitism. Like the left dissing bogans/rednecks. That's classism, and on the right it's even more pronounced, honestly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 07:59 AM
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So the previous user's theory doesn't make him sexist just for pointing out the phenomena. Did I say it did?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 07:37 AM
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Pulling out statistics does not negate the fact that the general public usually reacts more strongly to female abuse. That's fine, but that means they're wrong to do so.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 06:13 AM
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No matter how we "frame the conversation", women are going to live with their day-to-day fear. There is no way around that besides changing our society at a very basic level, which I support. When womens' fear is out of proportion to the actual danger they are at risk of, I just can't agree with you. If men were this prone to weaponizing their distress you'd be screaming bloody murder. We can understand and empathize with Karen while also disallowing her from weaponizing her privilege. Can we re…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 03:32 AM
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I'd argue that's the core idea behind left-wing ideology, whereas right-wing ideology is obsessed with enforcing hierarchies, including monarchies and racial hierarchies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/20 03:32 AM
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I'm saying that if someone wants white women to be able to treat black men like dirt, constantly framing the conversation in terms of abused women being afraid for their safety will likely allow those racist women to do that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/20 11:56 PM
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If you're a woman and you've suffered abuse by men, you'll want to support other women who have been abused by men. Or, that makes an amazing cover (in the context of chivalry) if you think that white women should be able to treat black men like dirt.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/20 09:59 PM
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While women do have a significant in-group bias that might cause them to "circle the wagons" here more than men might, I don't think it's specifically rich white women defending their own - instead it's society as a whole, including men. Playing the chivalric knight is something that aligns quite well with both feminism and traditional conservatism. No idea about the gender of this person, but here's an example of a comment supporting her from the Times article: He could stand to apologize to he…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/20 09:16 PM
1

What you have seems very much like a slave mentality where you assume that those with higher socioeconomic status than you are your superiors.
/r/MensRights26/05/20 05:36 PM
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I think you're ignoring class-based oppression and systemic inequality. The market and politics are not meritocracies.
/r/MensRights26/05/20 09:12 AM
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Not at all. It's oftentimes more a matter of different ways of doing things rather than less or more - and the assumption that you make is that the woman's way is always right.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/20 06:36 AM
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Yes it does, and the assumption that the amount of housework, the standards of upkeep of a house, and even the way the house is decorated need to confirm to a woman's perspective is a big part of the reason why all this discussion about "unpaid labor" and "emotional labor" is fundamentally hostile towards men. I get it, you see other men as competition and want to use feminism as a hammer to harm them so you can climb the capitalist ladder more effectively, but the rest of us don't buy into that…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/05/20 04:40 AM
1

I'm talking about the boy in the article.
/r/MensRights23/05/20 11:02 PM
1

Biden is hardly an anti-male fanatic, and Trump is worse (Central Park Five, anyone?)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/20 05:44 PM
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No, it's a great standard to set. That and the QAnon-tier conspiracy theories he was spouting.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/20 05:43 PM
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Trump's grip on reality seems very shaky.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/20 05:42 PM
2

Let's not act like the Right isn't hypocritical about this, either - there's a lot of people who didn't give a shot when Kavanaugh was accused but suddenly did.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/05/20 05:38 PM
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Yeah I do kind of wonder if we could verify this. Might be hard since he's still a minor. There are people crazy enough to do this though.
/r/MensRights23/05/20 09:00 AM
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Nobody except for an idiot can align themselves with Trump while being impartial. You're a submissive authoritarian.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/20 12:26 AM
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Do you even know what "whataboutism" means? Does it mean, to you, the idea that women could every be at fault for something?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/20 11:56 PM
0

But you conveniently align yourself with Trump... no, there's a label for you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/20 11:49 PM
1

I've only seen emotional labour targeted at families where the man didn't understand that staying at home with kids is harder than it looks. I haven't. I've seen it used in reference to a guy appreciating being able to unload to his wife about how stressful his work situation is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/20 11:28 PM
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He's talking about having the AG back off on prosecuting his friends.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/20 11:04 PM
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Personally I'm voting for Trump because his admin's policies are mostly really good. You clearly aren't paying attention to his policies or his administration's competence in implementing them. You can't really call yourself left-wing if you support him.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/20 11:04 PM
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There seems to be very little information here. What exactly are you proposing?
/r/MensRights21/05/20 10:49 PM
1

Nah, I'm doing just fine.
/r/MensRights20/05/20 03:50 AM
1

Ah, you're moving the goalposts to protect your brainless karma farming?
/r/MensRights20/05/20 03:29 AM
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I have far more history in this sub than you.
/r/MensRights19/05/20 10:44 PM
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If you're gonna post it, post the fucking article.
/r/MensRights19/05/20 09:05 PM
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Nope, we've had threads about this recently.
/r/MensRights19/05/20 08:10 PM
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How about you follow the sub rules? Is that so hard?
/r/MensRights19/05/20 07:44 PM
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How do we know this isn't a fabricated screenshot or one taken out of context? Reported.
/r/MensRights19/05/20 07:22 PM
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Do it. This sub has a rule against "low-effort posts."
/r/MensRights19/05/20 07:18 PM
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Link the article, not a screenshot of a tweet of the article. Stop being lazy. Downvoted and reported.
/r/MensRights19/05/20 07:15 PM
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Put some thought and effort into your posts.
/r/MensRights19/05/20 07:14 PM
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Stop posting screenshots of social media.
/r/MensRights19/05/20 07:13 PM
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This isn't TRP.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 09:56 PM
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You're a new account who is either unhinged or a false flag. Either way you're making the rest of us look stupid.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 09:26 PM
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Capitalizing random nouns in the middle of sentences is something conspiracy theorists and sovereign citizen-types do, and it's generally associated with apophenia.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 08:32 PM
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No, not as originally conceived of by people in the Men's Movement.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 06:05 PM
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Well, for them it's actually advantageous - it's ok if feminism hurts you a little bit if it hurts other men more, which is a lot of male feminists' strategy/outlook. One of the big things you'll notice about them if they tell their life story is that they have no or very little male friends - they are men who fundamentally see other men as the enemy and women as aligned with them, and so it makes sense they'd fall for hating of their own sex and thinking they're one of the good ones. The absolu…
/r/MensRights18/05/20 06:00 PM
1

I don't see it.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 05:56 PM
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The mods need to start deleting and banning those posts.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 05:49 PM
2

But the mods want it that way, for some reason? Possibly to keep the movement low-IQ and useless.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 05:49 PM
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High-effort rage bait would be fine. Screenshots of social media posts are just people fishing for karma.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 05:48 PM
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The quotes have a material context, and reffer people from male of female gender but who do not act with integrity towards their peers. They're incorrect grammar and a sign of apophenia.
/r/MensRights18/05/20 05:46 PM
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It doesn’t blame men any more than it blames women for not going into Stem careers. Bullshit. The point of the discourse around toxic masculinity is to say men are immoral when they don't burden women with their problems or act more expressively. Then, when they do, they're called manchildren etc. by the exact same people. The point of it is to enforce a framework where men are always morally inferior, no matter what they do, and women are always morally superior, no matter what they do. This is…
/r/MensRights18/05/20 05:41 PM
1

Yup. And DeVos is still a monster, but is right about one thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/20 07:02 PM
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As it stands, boys exposed to this curriculum would have to conclude that it doesn't happen to men, or at least not to "real" men Let's be real here, though, this is what feminists think.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/20 07:02 PM
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Because second wave feminists were biological essentialists so they believed that ALL men were oppressive and harmful to women because of biology, how does that prove that ALL feminists are like that? The feminists who aren't (and there are some) are against it because they're choosing not to practice that part of the ideology, but it's very core to what feminism is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/20 06:46 PM
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Then you're not reading feminist literature. Seriously, go read the Seneca Falls Declaration or anything written by a 2nd wave feminist; what it amounts to is the idea that women are morally righteous, men are morally deplorable, and that this justifies taking from men and giving to women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/20 06:30 PM
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I disagree, I'm a feminist (and a men's right's advocate) That's a contradiction in terms. The fundamental supposition of feminism is that women are morally superior to men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/20 08:25 AM
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I'm sure I'm not the only one who grew up with biology teachers in high school and college preaching that evolution proved men weren't necessary and evolution was going to eliminate men as if it were an evidence-based fact Weird. My HS biology teachers were super positive. That's why I went into the field.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/20 09:37 PM
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Without knowing the context, this could be full of similarly outlandish comments that aren't meant to be taken seriously. What's the context, OP?
/r/MensRights16/04/20 08:09 PM
1

Thanks for actually having a verifiable source, OP.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 07:55 PM
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Sometimes what people call dark humor just seems like being a bad person or something like that, in my opinion. Sure, but it could also be fairly harmless. So OP shouldn't have made this post and people shouldn't be worrying about it. Screenshots of social media are very easy to falsify.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 07:25 PM
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In Colorado during the Kobe Bryant trial the judge was really mad that the accuser's name got out, it is illegal in Colorado. In general when these laws are actually challenged they're thrown out on 1st and 14th amendment grounds. In the UK it is illegal to publish the name of a rape accuser for as long as she lives, even if that accusation is later proven false. That's the UK. I'm not a fan of that.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 07:20 PM
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If he's convicted, his name would be public. Yeah, it needs to be public before that, just like every other crime. And not to punish the person in question, but to protect them from abuse of the system. Otherwise they could just snatch people up and not say why. EDIT: People downvoting me and they have no idea what they're talking about, or what judicial abuse actually looks like.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 07:16 PM
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Well, if you can't ask what happened to Bob, who is mysteriously in jail (but you're not allowed to know that) and might be convicted of a crime (but you're not allowed to know that), yeah, that sounds like a secret trial.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 07:10 PM
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It makes it a pain in the ass to gather evidence. What happens if someone has exculpatory evidence for the accused, but it's illegal to contact them? What if they saw the act in question and might be a witness?
/r/MensRights12/04/20 07:06 PM
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In the US laws against naming the accuser have been routinely struck down on 1st Amendment grounds - it's just that media outlets choose not to. Very different.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 07:05 PM
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I’m not advocating for a secret trial, I’m saying the media should not be allowed to publish the names of the accused and any action taken against them IS already illegal but should be prosecuted. Who is "the media" in this context? How do you differentiate from the media and a private citizen? How does that square with the 1st Amendment? (I presume you're American).
/r/MensRights12/04/20 06:48 PM
-2

That would be the definition of a secret trial.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 06:47 PM
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Without knowing the person or the context this is hardly an issue; it could very well just be sarcasm or dark humor.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 06:02 PM
1

OP, how do we know this is even real and not an edited screenshot?
/r/MensRights12/04/20 06:01 PM
0

Secret trials are abhorrent in a free society.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 06:00 PM
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I mean, considering that gay men are still likely to be the victim of violence because of their sexuality in a lot of the world (at least to a much greater degree than straight men), hell no.
/r/MensRights11/04/20 07:18 PM
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OP is probably the author.
/r/MensRights11/04/20 07:10 PM
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OP, link to the article (or an archive of it if you don't want to give them clicks).
/r/MensRights11/04/20 07:10 PM
1

Where'd you take this photo OP?
/r/MensRights11/04/20 07:09 PM
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This doesn't seem to relate to the topic of this sub.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/20 08:04 PM
3

No, because laws like that are disproportionately leveraged against low-status men (especially black men, in the US).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/20 06:50 PM
2

Mods in Menslib are "overzealous" because they're afraid of facts trampling their chickenshit ideology.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/20 11:37 PM
2

Functionally, yes, but it means their motivations are actually different.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/20 07:51 PM
2

Yeah, that isn't how any woman I know thinks. Some women legitimately think like this, but it sounds more like a net action problem than anything else. Individual women don't have to support it for it be functionally true for the guys on the other end.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/20 07:15 PM
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The problem with that way of thinking is that it insinuates women are only having sex with men because they are giving into a man’s wants and completely ignores the fact that women in and of themselves are sexual beings who enjoy sex too. Why would it contradict that? People can be (and are) very hypocritical.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/20 07:11 PM
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But if you look at what they actually advocate for, its more accurate to say that they want to restore a status quo that once was. I'd argue that what they actually advocate for is a highly stratified and unequal society, and if our society was very egalitarian, they would be inciting for radical change.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/20 07:09 PM
1

Again, you act like there's something incredulous about a woman refusing to pay child support (and getting away with it.) No. I'm pretty aware of how it works. I'm a subscriber here, after all. So your purpose is to "criticize" it? For what, to defend gynocentrism? To turn our arguments and discourse into something strong, rather than vapid bleating over screenshots of social media posts.
/r/MensRights07/04/20 05:35 PM
0

Why, what's wrong with discussing a social media post? You can't criticize it well if it's unsourced.
/r/MensRights07/04/20 06:32 AM
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Even though mothers are more consistently awarded custody of children by the courts, the percent of “deadbeat” moms is actually higher than that of dads. Not news to me. You wouldn't actually expect those two things to be related, if we're being intellectually honest. One set of census figures shows only 57 percent of moms required to pay child support – 385,000 women out of a total of 674,000 – give up some or all of the money they owe. That leaves some 289,000 “deadbeat” mothers out there. (Th…
/r/MensRights07/04/20 05:02 AM
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Well you could go tweet him and get the details. How do I know it's not falsified? It's a screenshot of a tweet. I don't use twitter. A link to the tweet would do much better. Or better yet question your own biases, like you think women don't do this 12,000 times a day? Is it really so incredulous? Maybe they do, maybe they don't. I don't know. Because they have cucks like you going "bu-but how do we know this is legit?" I didn't stutter, kid. Like as if women being assholes is some rare animal.…
/r/MensRights07/04/20 12:42 AM
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How do we know this is legit?
/r/MensRights06/04/20 09:28 PM
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Nah, they're just karma whoring. I'm fine with being unkind.
/r/MensRights06/04/20 05:24 AM
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Don't give a shit. OP should have posted a link or not at all.
/r/MensRights06/04/20 02:54 AM
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On this sub you cant link to pinkpillfeminism. Then don't post screenshots of it.
/r/MensRights06/04/20 02:54 AM
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I don't want you to provide it upon request, I want you to actually put links in posts.
/r/MensRights06/04/20 02:49 AM
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You're too much of a sack of intellectually feeble shit to even provide it.
/r/MensRights06/04/20 02:47 AM
1

OP, stop posting screenshots of other subs. It doesn't spark any worthwhile discussion.
/r/MensRights06/04/20 02:44 AM
0

So am I a boomer or an elementary schooler? You can't even keep your insults straight.
/r/MensRights06/04/20 02:43 AM
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MistaKPJ commented the link, sorry for not providing it. Of course, because it's so much easier to karma farm just posting out-of-context screenshots all the time.
/r/MensRights06/04/20 02:42 AM
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We can't see the upvotes or downvotes, or replies, to see if the community as a whole shares that viewpoint or it's just this one person. OP, you're spreading intellectual diarrhea with your posts.
/r/MensRights06/04/20 02:41 AM
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You need to get your schoolteachers to apologize to you for botching their job.
/r/MensRights06/04/20 02:40 AM
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You should post it as your submission. Go fuck yourself.
/r/MensRights06/04/20 12:49 AM
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A screenshot is not just fine. It removes the ability of people to verify what's actually being said, when it's a post of social media or an article headline. Again, it seems to be holding oneself to a certain intellectual standard.
/r/MensRights06/04/20 12:47 AM
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If it means holding oneself to a certain intellectual standard, I'll take it.
/r/MensRights06/04/20 12:43 AM
1

What makes you think I'm a "boomer"?
/r/MensRights05/04/20 11:59 PM
1

Can you link to the website? Why just the screenshot?
/r/MensRights05/04/20 11:57 PM
1

Well, your intellect is... quite small. Lacking.
/r/MensRights05/04/20 11:57 PM
1

Nobody can have a meaningful or worthwhile conversation about the posts you make, unless it's a discussion about how your posts are meaningless or worthless.
/r/MensRights05/04/20 11:55 PM
1

They count more than your zero-effort, low-IQ posts. You're not contributing to the sub, you're degrading it.
/r/MensRights05/04/20 11:53 PM
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Nah, you're just farming for zero-effort upvotes with screenshots.
/r/MensRights05/04/20 11:52 PM
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What am I lying about?
/r/MensRights05/04/20 11:52 PM
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You're clearly not looking hard enough.
/r/MensRights05/04/20 11:51 PM
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Posting zero-effort screenshots to farm karma shows that you have the intellectual capacity of a vapid 13 year old.
/r/MensRights05/04/20 10:33 PM
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I don't give a shit about your upvotes. A screenshot is standard here, but it didn't used to be. This sub has gone to shit.
/r/MensRights05/04/20 10:30 PM
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Stop dropping the level of discourse here to lower than feminism's ideological toilet.
/r/MensRights05/04/20 10:26 PM
1

I have.
/r/MensRights05/04/20 10:24 PM
0

Delete your post and then do that.
/r/MensRights05/04/20 10:23 PM
0

Imagine if you posted a link to a relevant website instead of a zero-effort screenshot from your phone.
/r/MensRights05/04/20 10:20 PM
1

I certainly don't but his change my mind segments are basically reddit taken into the real world and when these people know they've lost they start yelling and often get physically violent and reveal their authoritarian nature. He definitely wouldn't show someone with cogent arguments against his point.
/r/MensRights05/04/20 10:15 PM
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You don't have to say shit, because this is a screenshot of an article without the link. OP, fuck off with your peabrained post.
/r/MensRights05/04/20 10:12 PM
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At least post a link to the actual article you lazy clown.
/r/MensRights01/04/20 07:06 PM
0

Without context this is probably bullshit.
/r/MensRights31/03/20 05:53 AM
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Yup, I'm familiar with microchimerism, and that is about cells from a woman's male children being present in her body. I'm a dude, no tits, you're just terrible at biology.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/03/20 12:18 AM
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None of those prove this happens in humans.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/03/20 11:18 PM
3

This article's from 2018. Why did you post this, OP?
/r/MensRights07/03/20 12:04 AM
1

I'm not interested in racism, Nazism ,or most of that other stuff. Feminism is just bullshit.
/r/MensRights06/03/20 11:56 PM
1

Holy shit can you post the damn article instead of a screenshot?
/r/MensRights24/02/20 06:45 PM
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Your mistake was when you didn't show the cops the video.
/r/MensRights19/02/20 06:42 PM
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There's plenty of feminists who want Depp to shut the fuck up about his abuse.
/r/MensRights12/02/20 08:34 PM
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There are a lot of people on the left who are pretty sure he'll get roasted by the media on that if he makes the general.
/r/MensRights22/11/19 07:44 PM
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Theoretically speaking, you can't be intersectional unless you're intersectional. If you consider enforcing correct definitions to be part of no true Scotsman then idk, but I'm not gonna call an orange an apple if it's an orange. The question is if the intersectionality argument is being made in good faith to begin with. I don't think it is. Edit: also, my point still stands. Just because funds are being allocated a certain way due to neoliberalist status quo by people who aren't intersectional …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/19 06:23 PM
1

Being Autistic I know that very often freedom to harm oneself is not really Liberty. Often it is a trap. That's your personal opinion. It doesn't have much to do with you being autistic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/19 04:13 AM
1

Stats that show that resources are being allocated a certain way don't actually show that intersectional feminists want it that way Sounds like a no true Scotsman argument. "Intersectionality" is a an incredibly frequent buzzword amount the diversity contingent, but the way it's practiced, as I mention, mostly serves to siphon off resources from actually disadvantaged groups for the benefit of white college-educated women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/19 10:03 PM
1

All I know is that I'm an intersectional feminist and a POC and I've never wanted more resources to go disproportionately to white women, nor have I seen any actual intersectional feminists, especially POC, arguing for a disproportionate amount of resources to go to white women. That's very much the practice whether or not it's openly in the discourse. I mentioned some of the stats that backed that up, there are others.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/19 09:39 PM
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I'm not sure that that's true for actual intersectional feminists Well, it's really important that they front like they don't do this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/19 09:10 PM
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They're against the allocation of resources to assist black men when those resources could be used for white women instead. Affirmative Action has, in general, been a great boon to white families because white women are at the front of the line to benefit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/19 08:39 PM
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What examples do you have of this kind of way of thinking? I could give an example - in higher education in the US, bias by instructors varies as to whether it's for or against male or female students, with public universities tending to be more biased in favor of female students, and private universities being more biased towards male students. However, the racial bias always works the same way - with whites having the advantage. So clearly there has been an effort with some success to ameliora…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/19 08:32 PM
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The problem with intersectionalism is that it seems like it's working the wrong way. It's like how allowing Western companies to do business in China isn't injecting Western values into China, but rather injecting PRC values into Western corporations. Rather than white women understanding how good they have it compared to black men, it seems like black men are regarded as unworthy of societal help compared to white women, especially white college-educated women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/19 08:19 PM
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A fusion of radical feminism with Marxist feminism. It sees capitalism and gender oppression as mutually reinforcing systems with one making possible the other. And this will mysteriously result in white college-educated women being seen as the most urgent recipients of society resources.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/19 08:00 PM
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Just thought I'd add that there's such thing as socialist feminism. How does that even work?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/19 06:17 PM
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It doesn't work without it. Feminism needs chivalry to function.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/19 05:26 AM
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The main problem with guns is that people with Mental Disability have access to them. Easy access to guns enables these people to access guns. We could say the same thing about alcoholics and alcohol or people who are dangerous and unsafe drivers and cars.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/19 02:21 AM
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