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Saw a UK petition the other day to recognise the term 'foid' as sexual harassment. I hate the term foid, but I see no way of it being sexual harassment. People throw it around like nothing. People making petitions like that, while the majority of UK men can't even get their rapist arrested for rape.
/r/MensRights17/06/26 11:57 PM
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It's absurd. Not only can you tell they make,excuses for men being targeted, but posts about pointlessly gendered male topics get 0 attention. It's a femcel sub they try to pretend is neutral.
/r/MensRights17/06/26 09:20 AM
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People in r/pointlesslygendered were recently arguing there should be women's toilets and 'everyone' toilets so...... Men's privacy is absolutely not respected, even beyond changing rooms.
/r/MensRights16/06/26 07:25 AM
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Something no one has pointed out yet. Egalitarianism. I think many of us who believe in mens rights are far more likely to just label ourselves as egalitarian because we believe in equal rights. Meanwhile feminism seems to be trying it's hardest to Bury the term, and as a result the majority of the feminists I interact with dont even know the idea exists.
/r/MensRights26/05/26 06:54 AM
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Maybe you should try touching grass instead of being a condescening asshole?
/r/MensRights22/05/26 01:56 AM
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This is just one of many comments that fully break it down, with multiple sources. comment in question
/r/MensRights06/05/26 01:24 AM
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Well consdierin it's estimated that up to 44% of perpetrated rape is done by women, and people are still spouting that 99% of rapists are men, yes.
/r/MensRights05/05/26 05:43 PM
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My overview is a little different but same idea that it's treated differently is consistent: Why is my wife yelling? Yelling often stems from feeling unheard, overwhelmed, or highly stressed, rather than just anger. It is frequently a release mechanism for built-up frustration, unmet needs, or a feeling of powerlessness in managing daily responsibilities. Why is my husband yelling? yelling becomes a communication style that's learned or reinforced over time. If your husband grew up in an environ…
/r/MensRights02/05/26 04:11 AM
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Men too, if they have sole custody of a child, can give it up for adoption or surrender the child to the state. except safe haven laws enable a woman to do exactly this, even if she doesn't/shouldn't have sole custody
/r/MensRights28/04/26 07:17 AM
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I’m also 100% in favor of most abortions Recently I've been terming this as pro-abortion. I'm not pro-choice, I'm pro-women (typically) had the choice to avoid pregnancy. I'm also not pro-life, as I recognise there's 1000 reasons I'd not only permit, but actively endorse an abortions.
/r/MensRights28/04/26 05:35 AM
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"Feminism in ukraine: the fight for womens rights has never been more important!" Yeah, sure it is Karen. gimme a fucking break. That line of logic is so asinine. Men's rights have never been more important in ukraine, or modern day.
/r/MensRights25/04/26 04:28 AM
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I've said it before, but to use the bullshit argument "have you been drafted?" You must be exceptionally confident America won't employ the draft. I am not very confident of that right now.
/r/MensRights25/04/26 04:25 AM
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Oh please, people have been complaining about discrimination against women in countries they don't live in for decades. And rightfully so, there's problems that deserves addressing. Just like the draft.
/r/MensRights25/04/26 04:24 AM
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The entire Bechdel test is asinine to me. What an arbitrary way of judging people's creativity.
/r/MensRights25/04/26 04:13 AM
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There's studies done into this. 100 children die, annually, in America alone... And yes, they are profiting. That's a major reason the procedure is perpetuated. They sell the foreskin
/r/MensRights22/04/26 02:36 AM
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Right... because the possibility a child dies for profit isnt deep
/r/MensRights22/04/26 02:32 AM
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In America, its mostly done just to sell the foreskin.
/r/MensRights20/04/26 04:51 PM
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It's right there for anyone who looks at the definition. equality for women to men. People don't seem to understand the nuance of for and to in that sentence, but it completely changes the meaning. That definition clearly shows that feminism is not equality of the sexes, its woman's equality. That doesn't inherently mean every feminist (or self-proclaimed feminist) is inherently against men's equality, but it does mean its not a movement for men.
/r/MensRights20/04/26 04:18 AM
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It's really not though. Research has repeatedly shown that in many instances, such as sexual assault, men and women are nearly equal in being perpetrators.
/r/MensRights20/04/26 02:03 AM
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Most downvoted comments in this sub get engagement. Maybe in other areas downvoting is an attempt to silence, but not here.
/r/MensRights17/04/26 05:00 AM
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Read a few articles recently titled things like feminism in ukraine: never more important than now? I will always support women's rights, but fuck off. What about the rights of men sent to die daily?
/r/MensRights17/04/26 04:56 AM
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Even if they don't actively fight it, it'll get buried and forgotten about instead of brought into more discussion.
/r/MensRights16/04/26 11:58 PM
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You're talking about women's issues in a subreddit about mens rights, misogyny in a post about misandry, and you want to talk about whataboutism? Your comment implies you believe heterosexual women don't harass gay men like the inverse happens, but speak to most gay men and they will tell you that is incorrect. Gay bars are swarmed with swathes of straight women who harass gay men. So yes, gay men have plenty of reason to be misogynistic. They just don't, because they understand its not all, or …
/r/MensRights16/04/26 06:11 PM
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Can you send me a comment with 75 (or any) upvotes saying, and I quote "Most women suck. Very few are actually decent"?
/r/MensRights10/04/26 05:30 AM
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Every guy I know has a story of being falsely accused. Maybe not legally, but socially?
/r/MensRights07/04/26 05:30 PM
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Sorry, women are not behaving. Every guy I know has a story of being sexually harassed by a woman.
/r/MensRights06/04/26 01:10 AM
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I’m glad men are finally seeing how gruesome this is for women now that the tables are turned Men have always understood how awful it is for women because men have always been sexually harassed like women. I hope you’ll start protecting women more and calling out/shaming men who do this, both online and in real life. I hope you'll start protecting men by shaming women too!
/r/MensRights05/04/26 04:50 PM
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You seem to think I was defending feminists. I was not. I was ridiculing them because they want the privilege of safe haven laws.
/r/MensRights05/04/26 04:48 PM
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If you're looking long enough to estimate sizes, especially through multiple layers of clothing, you're staring.
/r/MensRights05/04/26 03:48 AM
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I agree. Pro-choice is a disingenuous term. Because I'm not pro-choice. I'm pro-women had every choice before they got pregnant. I'm definitely pro-abortion though. I just do not want anyone to freely chose to terminate a future child for any reason. I want restrictions and rules on your reasons they're allowed.
/r/MensRights05/04/26 03:37 AM
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Never heard any feminist argue to overrule safe haven laws 🤔
/r/MensRights05/04/26 03:33 AM
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Sure, and women keep their legs closed/dont let a guy ejaculate in them! No need for abortions. Problem solved.
/r/MensRights05/04/26 03:32 AM
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Vasectomies are elective surgeries. No one is forcing men to get vasectomies. But plenty of people are demanding it. People even arguing for mandatory vasectomies as soon as boys turn of age.
/r/MensRights05/04/26 03:31 AM
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Aren’t the leaders men ? So... probably feminists?
/r/MensRights04/04/26 05:38 AM
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If not for age, for the abuse of power. Teachers have substantial authority and influence on students.
/r/MensRights01/04/26 04:49 AM
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You're not seriously trying to preach to a SA victim about what it's like to be an SA victim, are you?
/r/MensRights01/04/26 02:10 AM
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Indeed. More expensive to be a woman? To Steal a line from our not so friendly counterparts "You're angry at the wrong people. It's women enforcing that!".
/r/MensRights31/03/26 02:31 AM
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I'm assuming this is a joke. If its not...
/r/MensRights30/03/26 05:09 PM
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I mean, you kinda said it yourself. This isn't a 'right' men have that women don't. This is just a biological difference. Women carry the chid, so women get the final say. Women carry the child, so women also get the responsibility. Takes two to tango. Even then there's abortion, adoption, safe haven laws e.t.c You semi-covered abortion, but I'd want to see a source on that. Women being late for the abortion period isn't unheard of, but I can't imagine it's too common either. Though, abortions o…
/r/MensRights30/03/26 05:08 PM
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One comment calmly supporting men should not be enough. And your original comment claimed they should have an issue because OP doesn't support women's rights. Which is a baseless assumption because of one comment defending men's rights.
/r/MensRights28/03/26 07:11 PM
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I've said it before, but pick-me is inherently misogynistic. It implies women aren't capable of thinking for themselves and having their own opinions. How do people not see an issue with that? Anything to silence those who stand against injustice I guess.
/r/MensRights28/03/26 06:19 AM
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I mean, most people here would consider themselves egalitarian. I also think 30 year old women taking an issue with children because of one comment which they then automatically assume means they only care about men's activism is a little absurd.
/r/MensRights28/03/26 06:14 AM
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I'm pretty sure I well remember seeing Pizzey on the news in an interview when I was younger, and I always consider myself grateful to have seen the broadcast that day!
/r/MensRights28/03/26 06:08 AM
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Even spreading the word and raising awareness is more than many people will ever do. Hell, many people actively work to Bury information so....
/r/MensRights28/03/26 06:07 AM
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Part of our fight is to get female abusers taken seriously! We fight for you, and many others. Sorry you went through that <3
/r/MensRights28/03/26 06:03 AM
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Not really. Even in the US, for instance, the FBI has defined rape as: penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina, mouth, or anus with any body part or object without consent This is thereotically gender-neutral and allows for male rape victims, but it doesn't account for the most likely way for a man to be raped, by being forced to penetrate. Most women are not penetrating when they are raping their victims, especially male victims.
/r/MensRights24/03/26 07:30 AM
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Except I'm not arguing that, im hosting a civil discussion with you related specifically to mens lack of rights. You're just using the OP to try and make excuses. My points are completely unrelated and I'm guessing you just didn't have a response... And tbf, how could you? You literally complained about whataboutism in the same comment you committed whataboutism. The blatant hypocrisy is astounding. Also, no, even OP isn't arguing that. OP is just pointing out how men are lacking fundamental rig…
/r/MensRights20/03/26 08:10 AM
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Whataboutism... Like talking about women and women's issues when the conversation is about the draft? you know very well which gender has been in charge worldwide I do. Neither I nor you can say for sure how that would change if women had been allowed positions of power. I do not believe much would've changed however. And YES, sadly men do experience some of the threats women have, but it is nowhere near as common I'm going to pick one of the most common talking points here, rape. And point out …
/r/MensRights20/03/26 08:05 AM
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was it WOMEN who set up conscription? Who started the wars? Who decided who should fight? None of this matters and it's bought up every time like some kinda gotcha. And yes, women have started wars in the past. In fact, for a large period of time, female leaders in Europe were more likely to go to war than male leaders, despite the fact women were less frequently in power.... but the majority of the time it’s brought up it’s not a concern for the speakers. Except, it is. It probably wasn't a con…
/r/MensRights20/03/26 07:57 AM
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I'm still irked that Ukraine hasn't been a bigger wake up call to many people. Seriously, wake up! Men's rights have been severely lacking and unchanging for centuries while women's have only slowly improved. Not only are men actively bring drafted and slaughtered in multiple countries across the globe - forced into combat they didnt want or order. But they're also being taken as POW's and raped! This is daily news if you're paying attention.
/r/MensRights20/03/26 06:45 AM
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You’re circling. It’s men, not women, that become violent when needs aren’t met. Only because they aren't physically capable. When women become violent, they're likely to lose a physical altercation. When you take groups of just men and just women, wanna guess what happens? There's significant reversals of the presumed default and expected historical trends of 'male violence'. Roughly 65% higher. Because its an even playing field.
/r/MensRights20/03/26 06:41 AM
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I assure you OP, we're all about support of victims here, and not just men (though we obviously have a focus, we are mensrights). I have no idea what so much of the hate and interrogation has been about and I'm sorry you've got so much of it. As far as I'm aware, every frequent visitor here wants this to be a safe place.
/r/MensRights19/03/26 03:01 AM
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He most assuredly does not need to give more context to someone looking to scrutinise and tear his story apart, analyse all his trauma to prove a point. This isn't a court of law. We're not trying to prove something here, or accuse someone. This is a place for support grown men are rare Or maybe they just don't feel comfortable opening up to you.
/r/MensRights18/03/26 10:54 PM
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while still dismissing men's equivalent grievances about the Selective Service because "it hasn't been invoked since Vietnam lol" I've had this exact discussion multiple times, where I will point out things like Ukraine and they will go "we're talking about america" even though they were just talking about other countries! Also, in order for this dismissal to really work, you'd have to be extremely confident that selective service wont be enacted in the future. With the current state of the worl…
/r/MensRights18/03/26 05:51 PM
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Most people think war is bad. Most feminists also dismiss legitimate concerns because "the draft isn't relevant anymore", instead of just agreeing it's bad and needs to be ended. Somehow I haven't seen much discourse from feminists about Ukraine.
/r/MensRights18/03/26 05:48 PM
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Do you think they have an assembly like this November 19th for IMD? I certainly don't imagine so, I never saw one, despite having multiple about women.
/r/MensRights17/03/26 11:59 PM
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We don't exercise for women. We do it because we like being healthy.
/r/MensRights16/03/26 03:20 AM
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I'd rather answer this question every day than have people turn a blind eye to men's issues. ❤️
/r/MensRights09/03/26 09:51 AM
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Oh no, people being nice to each other without needing a special day as incentive to do it! What horror!
/r/MensRights09/03/26 03:23 AM
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"The child's best interest" Notice how they don't care about the best interest of the child rape victim
/r/MensRights06/03/26 03:04 AM
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When you combo this with feminist claims that women couldn't obtain positions of power in society, and still struggle to in modern day, it paints quite the picture. Ofc, they still have excuses.
/r/MensRights04/03/26 04:07 AM
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It'll be a very, very long time before the MRM even has social power to stoop anywhere close to their level.
/r/MensRights27/02/26 05:49 PM
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Two. Certainly some who regard themselves as feminists are not actually hostile to men. Many have fallen for the “dictionary definition” BS I think this one is crucial. Actions will always speak louder than words, and there are many misinformed 'feminists'. We should view what they're doing. Personally, I've started claiming anyone who believes in equality is an MRA, as a litmus test of sorts. People who have an issue with that make me raise an eyebrow.
/r/MensRights27/02/26 05:46 PM
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Had their conversation recently in a different sub. It was concerning how many people keep re-stating "FGM is worse". Even when repeatedly pressed by people to simply say "MGM is bad", they couldn't. They just keep repeating FGM is worse
/r/MensRights25/02/26 03:53 AM
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guys you can't be a serious sub on mens rights and have this downvoted. Right, because I'm sure questions like this would be upvoted in other equality subs.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 05:51 AM
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Believing in equality, apparently.
/r/MensRights21/02/26 06:03 AM
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I can't really afford donations right now, but I definitely did my part and engaged for youtube algorithms.
/r/MensRights21/02/26 05:59 AM
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Saving this for the next time people say we don't actually do anything.
/r/MensRights19/02/26 04:07 AM
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Right, because people, like you, not believing men are frequently being victimised by women - despite stats - is fair?
/r/MensRights18/02/26 02:07 PM
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Page 3. I just made this comment because I'm a nerd, where I took careful consideration to refer to sexual assault victims gender-neutrally. But look at page 3. They, like many, make 0 efforts to make shitty behaviour gender-neutral. This is the difference between us and them. We actually believe in equality. It's not "disabled people are capable of being evil". It's "men are evil, even disabled".
/r/MensRights16/02/26 05:26 AM
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Men’s rights activists are largely straight white men who do not like women The same can likely be said about feminists. You should be looking at the individual, instead of grouping together very distinct people.
/r/MensRights14/02/26 08:56 AM
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.... This is literally the kind of logic we have to argue with. People who disagree with facts.
/r/MensRights14/02/26 07:18 AM
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While I agree generalisations are problematic, there's a big difference between "women don't take accountability" and "men are pedos". And generalising feminists is a lot better than generalising a gender. Do not have your identity tied that intrinsically to a political movement.
/r/MensRights14/02/26 05:33 AM
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Men’s rights isn’t an actual problem Said in the face of Ukraine, this is laughable right now. Men's rights have never been more topical. And people saying "it's just as valid for women to go their own way" is most definitely not hating women.
/r/MensRights14/02/26 05:29 AM
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Sorry, every single issue men face gets blamed on men and told we should sort it out ourselves. You can't surprised pikachu face when you get the same treatment
/r/MensRights14/02/26 05:26 AM
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You do realize she fcked up her body and health to give you children She fucked up her body and health to give her children. She has autonomy. She chose to get pregnant.
/r/MensRights12/02/26 07:33 AM
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Once again having to argue the most basic kindergarten logic of "two wrongs don't make a right".... Anyway, if you could link to some comments like that made about a man murdering a woman, that'd be dope. I'd be very curious to see.
/r/MensRights08/02/26 02:30 AM
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Did you not get the memo? We only hate women and hold them accountable here. We're misogynists and blame women for all our issues. /s
/r/MensRights07/02/26 05:38 PM
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misandry is awful
/r/MensRights07/02/26 06:12 AM
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Well, you said it yourself. It's earned. If you never give it, how are you supposed to get it. Someone has to take the first step
/r/MensRights07/02/26 06:08 AM
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I used to have the same issue. Prizzey just sounds right to my brain, even though its pizzey.
/r/MensRights31/01/26 09:24 AM
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I'd consider myself a pretty weak guy. I only recently started taking my physical health seriously. Somehow I doubt people would be okay if I just started punching a woman, even though there's bound to be a ton of women actively working out and way stronger than me. - and that'd the way it should be.
/r/MensRights28/01/26 01:32 AM
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Don't forget that she also went on to strongly pursue details about Steve Rogers' sex life from hulk (Steve's friend for a decade) after complaining about harassment.
/r/MensRights28/01/26 01:27 AM
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If I'm not mistaken, I believe a frequent consequence of rape is hyper-sexuality. If you found yourself addicted to porn, it could partially be a result of being taken advantage of, if the timelines add up. Hope you're doing better now brother! Sorry you went through that <3
/r/MensRights26/01/26 07:07 AM
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You got a source for that? Does that source account for the fact that in many countries women, by legal definition, cannot perpetrate rape, or are immensely unlikely to?
/r/MensRights26/01/26 12:01 AM
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When people say she wasn't elected because she's a woman, I point to this.
/r/MensRights25/01/26 07:28 AM
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There's been plenty of attempts to fix men's issues. I think yall rather just ignore the obvious to dismiss our issues than acknowledge men can be societal victims.
/r/MensRights24/01/26 05:49 PM
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Indeed. and i suspect far from the only person to believe it, I'm afraid.
/r/MensRights24/01/26 10:14 AM
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The fact you and others can point out facts like this without getting mass downvoted is a beautiful reminder of why I enjoy this sub. A beautiful reminder that we're not like others - we're for equality and facts, not privilege and feelings.
/r/MensRights24/01/26 10:01 AM
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What was it again? "Women have always been the primary victims of war"
/r/MensRights24/01/26 09:56 AM
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When men fight for custody, they receive it more than women. And you think every man who wants custody fights for it? That there's no barriers keeping them away? I'd love to review a source for that claim, anyway.
/r/MensRights24/01/26 04:01 AM
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Two wrongs don't make a right. And no? Not to rely too much on anecdotal experience, but i've never heard men telling rape jokes? I can't imagine it's that frequent. Heard plenty of women make rape jokes though. Still can't imagine it's a frequent thing.
/r/MensRights22/01/26 02:16 PM
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There's nothing 'victim mentality' about breach of consent. Medical procedures are a part of that.
/r/MensRights22/01/26 02:12 PM
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Ugh, the vasectomy talk is so tedious. All over the Internet there's people saying "don't want kids? Get a vasectomy" like it's that simple. They don't mention that it could lead to permanent sterilisation. That it should be considered irreversible. They dont mention, 'your body your choice'. They treat it like a blanket solution when it's an extremely complicated issue.
/r/MensRights22/01/26 02:10 PM
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That's great. The OP was talking about women who identify as women.
/r/MensRights20/01/26 08:20 AM
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I think I've ended up in askwomen once or twice just due to algorithmic bs, but I have never felt compelled to comment. And if I ever did comment without realising where I was, I would immediately retract my statement and leave it as a woman's space. AskMen on the other hand, its just AskReddit now.
/r/MensRights20/01/26 08:12 AM
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Men have been, and likely will future be, sent to war by women.
/r/MensRights20/01/26 02:46 AM
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Reading this and reflecting on my own schooling experience... I remember girls, especially the 'bad' or 'dumb' girls in my classes getting praised at every corner for the bare minimum, and getting away with far more misbehaviour. Their male counterparts were ignored or scolded more. Meanwhile I, practically a straight A student, rarely ever got any kind of recognition or praise. One of the rare times I did, my female teacher forbade me from showing pride in it. I was also scrutinised way more th…
/r/MensRights17/01/26 06:56 PM
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People arguing men can't be raped will always read as projection of guilt to me.
/r/MensRights15/01/26 11:40 AM
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I know people think women can't rape cuz weaker and whatever (all bullshit anyway but you know) But this is my experience. Women are far more likely to perpetrate rape by fucking with your mind. By manipulation. By coercing, pressuring you or gaslighting. Almost every guy I know how a story of being coerced.
/r/MensRights15/01/26 11:39 AM
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abandonment/adoption rules I'm glad you added this part. I know people like to argue That financial abortion and real abortions aren't comparable, but I would argue safe haven laws are substantially worse than the idea of a paper abortion. No one wants to talk about that though...
/r/MensRights15/01/26 03:39 AM
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Probably partially hard to prove innocence because so many people push the narrative that rare. People simply believe false accusations don't happen. They ignore the fact that in SA cases alone, about 80% of accusations are unconfirmed.
/r/MensRights13/01/26 04:23 AM
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Even if petitons don't end up meaning a whole lot, it immediately shuts down that whole narrative of "the MRM/men don't do anything for their equality". That alone makes them worth pursuing. On top of registering genuine demand for change. It's also a defeatist mentality. If everyone thought "is it worth doing? They'll just be rejected anyway" then petitons would never get anywhere regardless. Being one small voice for change reminds other people they must voice change too.
/r/MensRights12/01/26 08:42 PM
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Neat, thanks. I'll edit the original comment and link them back through to replace the broken links.
/r/MensRights12/01/26 08:35 PM
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Over in the UK, we've seen a ton directly from petition.parliament.uk Canada might have a similar governmental site! I'm in a blessed position to have a small Internet following, but you can share it across reddit communities like here, r/egalitarianism, a ton of other subs, across other social media, or even IRL to people you know
/r/MensRights11/01/26 04:04 PM
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Petitioning your government and spreading them is never a bad idea, even though most petitions for men's rights get ignored. The uk has had a few petitions for things like gender-neutral rape definitions (unsuccessful every time). But still, it's an attempt to help. I saw you live in Canada. There might be similar options for you to look into there!
/r/MensRights11/01/26 07:13 AM
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Don't ask me, like I said, I had intended to just link to the old comment, but reddit couldn't find it and I had to copy the text 🫠 I don't remember the name of the deleted user. That comment is 3+ years old. But Whoever compiled that entire comment did us all a huge favour. It is exceptionally hard to find unbiased studies these days, everything pushes you towards the most frequently referenced feminist studies. If you want ro keep the stats tracked, I'd save the comment so you can always refer…
/r/MensRights11/01/26 06:55 AM
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Copied from an old comment from a deleted user: Nonconsensual envelopment of a penis isn't counted as rape. It isn't counted as exual assault. If the data is gathered at all, it is categorized as "made to penetrate", "forced to penetrate", or "unwanted contact " which are forms of "other sexual violence". NISVS 2010 showed that in the past 12 months, 1.1% of men were made to penetrate and 1.1% of women were raped. Look at Table 2.1 and 2.2 on pages 18 and 19 respectively. NISVS 2011 showed that …
/r/MensRights11/01/26 05:01 AM
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Men who insist on splitting the bill on the first date but shame women for their body type or not shaving can go straight to jail in my opinion Jesus christ.
/r/MensRights11/01/26 02:46 AM
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This woman, these women, some women. So many options that all take 4-6 letters to completely avoid a generalisation. Its unfortunate more people don't use them.
/r/MensRights11/01/26 02:41 AM
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This would be much better in something like r/womenareviolenttoo instead of here
/r/MensRights11/01/26 02:38 AM
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I agree you shouldn't have to, so screw everyone for asking him anyway. The issue isn't about "why is it your boundary", its "she doesn't care about my boundary". You're never under an obligation to explain your boundaries, especially online to potential thousands of strangers. Very inappropriate questioning of OOP. I do however believe it's good to be able to explain, just to yourself, why you have these boundaries. but, you're allowed to have boundaries even if they can't be explained, and the…
/r/MensRights09/01/26 06:22 PM
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I do raise my eyes at the fact the OOP can't even explain why he has this boundary, but at the end of the day everyone here is right. Its a boundary and respecting it should become the top priority. Attempting to pressure/bully him into it would make coercive consent if he gave in. OOP should not have felt safe enough to set boundaries with this one, evidently. He should've kicked her to the curb, like his last GF. This one appears to be no less abusive and manipulative.
/r/MensRights09/01/26 06:13 PM
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Equality is egalitarianism. Feminism, even by book definition, is advocacy of women. Feminism ≠ equality. Some people just believe it does and spreads the message accordingly.
/r/MensRights09/01/26 06:09 PM
8

"Men do it to other men" "This comment section taught me Males perpetuate it" What? Did they all miss the multiple comments from women laughing, mocking, doubting. As well as the multiple comments from users without a clear gender?
/r/MensRights09/01/26 01:39 AM
41

Watched a guy recently get told "that's a weird point considering women are the majority victims/men are the majority perpetrators " when they shared their story of being raped...
/r/MensRights08/01/26 02:06 AM
9

I'm European. Never once experienced a locker room/changing room like that
/r/MensRights06/01/26 03:47 AM
11

Don't you know, if there's an issue, men are always 99.99999% of perpetrators. /s, obviously.
/r/MensRights06/01/26 03:46 AM
20

Not by female loki, but yes. The MCU is very concerning with its portrayal of men since endgame. Things like stripping thor nude without his consent and having him ogled by women The entire loki scene you mentioned And a ton more.
/r/MensRights06/01/26 03:45 AM
14

I never buy any statistic that's 90%+ without deep research and hard un-debatable proof, and even then I'm suspicious. When you start getting percentages that high, it becomes pretty clear that most of the time there's circumstances ignored, or manipulation of the research, bias, e.t.c. a million reasons.
/r/MensRights06/01/26 03:20 AM
1

You really think people would be celebrating if people aborted female children because they were girls?
/r/MensRights04/01/26 05:15 AM
4

those were only examples If you want a direct statement, I've heard the statistic "99% of rapists are men" thrown around frequently, and defended.
/r/MensRights03/01/26 05:20 PM
12

Are you routinely removing an infants tonsils for no reason?
/r/MensRights02/01/26 08:39 PM
18

The fact people can die from it really says all you need to know
/r/MensRights02/01/26 08:26 AM
10

"I'm angry at feminism" is not "I blame feminism". And as he goes to explain in the body, he's angry at feminist attitudes towards it, not blaming feminism for it.
/r/MensRights01/01/26 07:31 AM
6

You asked why every post is about women and feminism. I showed you it isn't and now you're making it about women? I can't be the only one who doesn't understand? only men facing genital mutilation in places like Africa No one said it isn't. That was just one example of many where its an issue. Again, isn’t caused by women Again, it partially is. Women aren’t the ones sending men to war, Incorrect, they have been known to. But most importantly. Men. Women. Why does it matter?
/r/MensRights31/12/25 04:17 AM
2

By.. other men?? By... women?? Started by a man?? Continued by women?? Don't get me wrong, it's not just women, but...
/r/MensRights31/12/25 03:38 AM
2

this post this one or this one Are just a few examples. What do you know, if you dont knee jerk react, we do talk about more than feminism here!
/r/MensRights31/12/25 03:18 AM
1

and have issues relating or caused by men ahem male genital mutilation
/r/MensRights31/12/25 03:12 AM
2

Don't forget the duluth model!
/r/MensRights31/12/25 03:11 AM
1

I also use lads and bitch gender neutrally. Though I don't believe either of them are supposed to be 🤔 Oh well, the connotation should be clear
/r/MensRights30/12/25 05:48 AM
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The 'dick cheese' claims are always funny to me. Japan, Europe. Pockets all over the world have 0 culture of mutilating our children, and yet we seem to have 0 issues with basic hygiene. It's just another excuse for control.
/r/MensRights30/12/25 05:46 AM
6

I always insist you must pay attention to the voting. a lot of people won't be active commenters/actively post. But they will speak with their votes. When you find incredibly misogynistic things on this sub, they get downvoted. Incredibly misandrist things in subs like twox will be the top comments. And you won't ever see misandry mass downvoted because people are expected to be sympathetic to what she went through.
/r/MensRights30/12/25 05:38 AM
11

You can't even generalise feminists today without getting vitriol. Never mind women. But when it comes to men....
/r/MensRights30/12/25 05:35 AM
4

Threatening to take away core human rights is not voluntary service.
/r/MensRights29/12/25 01:55 AM
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Can you point to any without deep research? If not, you have your answer. If feminists were truly willing to combat issues like this, we'd hear about it far more. The simple reality is that feminism has far more influence and is far more widespread than the MRM.
/r/MensRights29/12/25 01:54 AM
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I love that teacher. Such a genius analogy. It's not that this can't happen, or would never work. It's that most people understand the risks standing up present, and have to decide if there's no cost too great
/r/MensRights29/12/25 01:51 AM
16

It's not just unfriendly. More often than not, it's downright hostile.
/r/MensRights29/12/25 01:48 AM
4

they don't want to lose the advantages they have. Something Something losing privilege feels like oppression Something. To paraphrase :p It's about time people become aware men are lacking equal rights.
/r/MensRights28/12/25 02:33 AM
11

I looked up feminism in Ukraine recently for research purposes, and all the top results were things like "the war has pushed the fight for women's rights to the side". Like yeah, no shit? I'm not necessarily cheering for sidelining women's rights, but how about the rights of men being sent to die?
/r/MensRights28/12/25 02:31 AM
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noticed the general hate for feminism and wondered where those feelings came from The claim of patriarchy, the ignorance of statistics, and the intentional misrepresentation of feminism. Oh, and the founding of the duluth model. My misrepresentation, i mean claiming that feminism is for men too. That's what people have been misled to believe. Note that I don't mean a feminist can't fight for men. They can. But every actual definition of feminism refers to making women equal to men. Uplifting wom…
/r/MensRights28/12/25 02:27 AM
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This is a very smart perspective to provide. Because you're very right about the nuance. A small portion of people do take advantage of drunk people/encourage people to get more drunk so they're vulnerable. Lord knows I would hate to see men or women be treated like that. But I don't think it's anything we have a solution for. Once you start claiming this is rape its a slippery slope, and I really don't like the odds of proving you were raped when you were blackout drunk and someone decided "eas…
/r/MensRights27/12/25 07:44 AM
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Or drink in the comfort and privacy of their own home, instead of at a bar where human interaction is gonna happen... Seriously, it's not like this is rocket science. It doesn't, or shouldn't, take a genius to figure out. But you know how some people are with accountability.
/r/MensRights27/12/25 07:41 AM
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We can want to solve problems and still not be an asshole who lacks sympathy. This guy's problem is caused by someone else. Men don't have to hold themselves accountable for everything, even when it's not their fault.
/r/MensRights26/12/25 08:04 AM
12

Why are you being so judgemental to someone who went through a shitty marriage?
/r/MensRights25/12/25 05:14 PM
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Copied from an old comment of mine: Hermesmann v. Seyer. seriously cannot over-state this case. bodily autonomy (genital mutilation) draft duluth model homeless rates suicide rates 'the underlooked male victim' - particularly in terms of rape false accusations paternal fraud reproductive rights/abolish safe haven laws more contraceptive options more positive male role models for young boys the underappreciated role of fathers to stop viewing all men as rapists and pedophiles 'teach men not to ra…
/r/MensRights25/12/25 05:12 PM
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Men's health in general, it feels like.
/r/MensRights25/12/25 05:10 PM
2

Why don't women? If they used condoms, they wouldn't need abortions. It's a dumb line of questioning because many people do.
/r/MensRights25/12/25 04:59 PM
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Since it’s a crime, I’m sure the judge would be in your favor. The judge has quite literally not been in the victims favor in prior cases.
/r/MensRights25/12/25 04:56 PM
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The important thing is that you not only realised the oversight in your comment, with it coming across very 'whataboutism-y', but that you even went a step further and apologised for it. Most people, especially online, simply do not care to apologise if they made a mistake. Not only are we glad to have you here, but I would go a step further and say we are very lucky to have you, and happy to see you don't feel discouraged from participating.
/r/MensRights23/12/25 05:53 AM
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I would agree with most people to be very sceptical of the relationship However, if you really want a place to start, just broach an obviously immoral subject where there's no wiggle room. Issues like abortion and euthanasia are very gray with no right answer, but I think every normal person would agree with things like "everyone deserves fair wages" and "children deserve to not be mutilated". So start by mentioning a men's rights issue where any good person will agree "man, that's fucked up", a…
/r/MensRights23/12/25 05:49 AM
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Theres a reason women feel unsafe in areas that you wouldn’t. Which areas are these? Because I'd be willing to wager I feel unsafe in most of the areas women would. People are dangerous.
/r/MensRights23/12/25 05:41 AM
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Equal opportunities for women to men. You literally just confirmed my initial point.
/r/MensRights21/12/25 11:59 PM
1

Feminism is support of the patriarchy. Being anti-feminist is not anti-women or anti-sexism. It's anti-patriarchy theory. it just means “equality for the sexes” Also, this is blatantly not feminism. The term you're looking for is egalitarianism. Feminism is, at minimum, equality of sex by uplifting women. That's not to say there's no feminists who care about egalitarianism. I'm sure there's plenty on an individual level. But if you want to see you want equality, you're an egalitarian. If you're …
/r/MensRights21/12/25 05:43 PM
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Quite literally has everything to do with sex. Just because you think you can change words to fit your needs, it doesn't mean you actually can.
/r/MensRights21/12/25 04:14 AM
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There's actually another petition live rn. Unfortunately, just like the last one, the government will probably claim 'all forms of sexual violence are covered under other offences'. Bullshit btw, a quick look into sentencing guidelines in the UK proves that.
/r/MensRights18/12/25 08:22 PM
2

This just in: judgemental person learns women aren't a monolith and have different opinions to each other.
/r/MensRights18/12/25 08:19 PM
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We appreciate you, OP, and all other women willing to voice the facts on this <3
/r/MensRights18/12/25 08:16 PM
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I'm not inherently saying women shouldn't have unrestricted access, or that safe haven laws are inherently bad. And you're preaching to the choir about how only some countries have access to abortion. Nearly everyone knows that, especially after roe V wade was overturned and it became such a huge conversation topic. I even specified in my original comment that it was many. Not all or even majority. I was merely trying to show how asinine the "men choose to bang women" logic is, by applying it to…
/r/MensRights16/12/25 08:53 PM
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Ah, as always... "Fellow woman disagrees with me, therefore she's only interested in male attention. Women cannot be independent thinkers with empathy and understanding"
/r/MensRights16/12/25 08:12 AM
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I'll never stop getting disappointed that it feels like I see this question at least once a week. And it gets the same answers every time, a comprehensive list of tons of rights men lack. And rhe response? complete radio silence. No acceptance, no attempted counter-point, no "shit, that's bad." "That's awful". "You're right, we should fight for men". Just silence.
/r/MensRights16/12/25 08:07 AM
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You gotta look at the individual. Large amounts of feminists are misinformed, ignorant, and brainwashed. They believe "if you believe in equal rights, that makes you a feminist!". It's not that simple, which I doubt I need to tell anyone here. But as a whole? An organisation? A movement? Yeah, it'd bad. It's awful. It's representatives have made multiple moves actively putting men down.
/r/MensRights16/12/25 08:04 AM
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People don't like the idea that you have to speak to a woman husband before she can get an operation like that... Personally I think it's a non-issue. You should have to consult someone else's partner first, if for no other reason than to make sure they're aware. Something your long time partner has a right to know.
/r/MensRights16/12/25 08:02 AM
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Not to mention that dad in jail puts a relatively innocent man at great risk to much more serious criminals, and prevents him earning any money and therefore cannot be in the child's best interests.
/r/MensRights16/12/25 08:00 AM
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I'm glad you're at least willing to make counter-points, unlike many dissenting voices we get in here. And you do make some very valid points, like not relying on people to keep a consistent standpoint, because things change quickly, especially with the affection towards future children.
/r/MensRights16/12/25 07:54 AM
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Perfect, then you agree men can get paper abortions? Women don't need men for financial support after all
/r/MensRights16/12/25 07:52 AM
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"It takes two to tango" Until it comes to mens reprodcutive rights. According to these people
/r/MensRights16/12/25 07:49 AM
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Women choose to bang men. We still have abortion - unrestricted access to it in many countries. We still have safe haven laws. We still have women being able to put children up for adoption without even attempting to inform the father. This isn't different.
/r/MensRights16/12/25 07:46 AM
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I feel like respecting rejection from men could be a pretty big teaching point.
/r/MensRights14/12/25 08:15 PM
10

Ugh, just reading that almost sends a shiver down my spine. I dread to think what it's like even now a few years after I finished my education, never mind when policies are made surrounding the idea. I just hope it's not a sign to get out of the UK. But between this, the legal definition of rape, the child safety online act, and this new proposal for online identification, I'm concerned.
/r/MensRights14/12/25 08:11 PM
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It's being written now, but tbh it was always the way. I'm not too old, but I remember some years ago when I was in school, and even then there was still so much implicit bias towards girls and the way we should treat, including peddling of false information.
/r/MensRights14/12/25 04:48 PM
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I mean, men aren't a monolith. What helps one man might not help another. Some might just want to be heard. Some want solutions. Some might feel really beaten down due to societal issues, some might be breaking due to personal issues. You can't help people without understanding the individual. But if it's a friend or family member, you should at least have a base understanding to help.
/r/MensRights13/12/25 06:07 AM
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Its even more infuriating when men are constantly called out for whataboutism, and derailing the conversation. We can't have our own conversations because people don't like us talking about mens issues....
/r/MensRights13/12/25 06:04 AM
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We also don't get routinely mutilated at birth here for culture purposes or 'religion'. The UK has its problems, like men legally not being able to be raped (still pisses me off) but we have our upsides too. If only the us and the UK could take the best of both worlds.
/r/MensRights13/12/25 06:01 AM
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And no man under 65 in America today has ever been drafted. I bet that's what they were saying to men in Ukraine too 😬
/r/MensRights13/12/25 05:58 AM
2

Why did anyone want to make contraception?
/r/MensRights13/12/25 05:54 AM
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To be entirely fair, we,do genuinely have bad faith actors and misandrists frequent here. This isn't one of those cases though. OP just can't handle being told he was wrong, and that we're just waiting for a trial (where she better be found guilty).
/r/MensRights13/12/25 03:21 AM
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one to go to the radical feminism subreddit and ask them how they feel Deny. Deny Deny Deny, vehemently. There's still people who Deny that Amber heard had any wrongdoing. You think radicals misandrists are gonna admit fault in this one?
/r/MensRights13/12/25 03:18 AM
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Much appreciation :)
/r/MensRights10/12/25 02:52 AM
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The CDC says the number of women raped is about equal to the number of men raped Can I get a source for this one? I've been looking for a good source to reference, because I'm so sick of people acting like men are 80/90% of the rapists, when anyone with half a brain can see that's so clearly bullshit. I'm concerned I might get more sources than I bargained for, so I'm just gonna say thank you in advance for all of them here now :)
/r/MensRights09/12/25 09:57 PM
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The idea that genital mutilation is taking away bodily autonomy, that it is real misandry. This is not misinformation. At no point did I imply you agreed with the procedure, but you've made clear multiple times that you don't think its an issue worth fighting. That, in turn, makes my original statement extremely accurate to your viewpoints.
/r/MensRights06/12/25 08:01 AM
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I can't believe you're spending so much time writing that men's lack of bodily autonomy isn't a big issue.
/r/MensRights06/12/25 05:50 AM
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My country is doing a lot of shit that screws over men right now, and has been for years, but lemme tell you... I'm so incredibly grateful to live in a country where our culture isn't the routine mutilation of children.
/r/MensRights06/12/25 05:46 AM
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I wanna support what you're saying about cleanliness: Just a little reminder that hygiene is one of the biggest justifications for routine mutilation of children. Yet I, and the vast majority of other European men seem to have no issues with cleanliness. Circumcision is not so common in Europe and we still have no issues. This procedure is entirely unnecessary and Barbaric.
/r/MensRights06/12/25 05:43 AM
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I still remember a long time ago finding a video about the cries of a baby. It was, for a while, neat hearing all the small cadences to indicate if it's hunger or tiredness or whatever. But then we got to what the video was about. MGM (male genital mutilation). Fuck, that is a noise that I would simultaneously never wish on anyone hearing, while also thinking everyone should hear it just once to really understand how severe of an issue this is. I mean... it was... it was inhuman. And the entire …
/r/MensRights06/12/25 05:36 AM
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Some people just can't take no for an answer 😔
/r/MensRights05/12/25 04:53 AM
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I mean, we've been doing a ton. Just not enough. I'm pretty sure everyone here knows we need to take action to make change. But telling people to do something doesn't make it easy. We need ideas, solutions. More than what we've already been doing.
/r/MensRights05/12/25 03:43 AM
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Friendly reminder that the majority of rape cases are also undecided. There's literally not enough proof to know if the accused is guilty or innocent. Many people automatically assume guilt, but it can really go either way. There's simply no way to truly know how many false accusations are made, but I'm willing to bet its more than people think. All this to say: They're a much more common, and bigger problem than people let on.
/r/MensRights04/12/25 06:37 PM
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Yeah, this entire comparison and "it's worse" claim doesn't benefit anything. I'm sure being falsely accused can be worse thsn rape, just as im sure being assaulted can be worse than false allegations. Its all situational. The problem is that both are awful things to experience that no one should ever have to go through.
/r/MensRights04/12/25 06:35 PM
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"Are you gay or something?" "Am I not good enough for you?" A lot of lines in store if you reject sex as a man.
/r/MensRights04/12/25 06:25 PM
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Ah, and then you were told "women don't say that, men do it to other men" I bet.
/r/MensRights04/12/25 06:23 PM
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Dude is probably just so sick/got worse over the course of the day that he's completely checked out and just focused on getting through the day or getting home to rest. Probably didn't even take notice of the other passengers.
/r/MensRights04/12/25 02:47 AM
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Now you've put it out there, I concur. You nailed it. "There's no reason for a man to move closer to woman on a train" except there is. Like to get close to an exit. Ofc, the OP felt like such a victim we have no idea if he got off in about 3 minutes when the train reached a stop.
/r/MensRights04/12/25 02:45 AM
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Don't you think that's a little insensitive? I couldn't imagine saying the same about other victims. Many of these people are taking their own lives after being exonerated. If they were found innocent, why would they commit after the fact? Unless they were so deeply traumatised by it they couldn't cope. Also, in general, rapists don't typically strike me as the sort to remove themselves if they got found out. Obviously there's outliers but I would imagine the majority don't
/r/MensRights04/12/25 01:26 AM
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Isolation, the risk of constant harassment from people who dont believe your innocence, depression at the miscarriage of justice you were forced to experience, and a ton more.
/r/MensRights04/12/25 01:05 AM
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This lead me on a rabbit hole of checking current petitions to see if there's anything yet to sign against this. To which I found this petition about life orders for people who attack women or children. Thank god such a blatantly biased petition isn't recieving much support.
/r/MensRights03/12/25 06:15 PM
1

And women are raped by other women? You're point.
/r/MensRights30/11/25 04:56 PM
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I'm glad this post was made. Not because its a good, insightful question. No, it's a shit question and feels baity. Like everyone else has said, it's not a competition. But this post shows what this sub is about. all the top comments are saying it doesn't matter which is worse, instead of actually trying to argue for misandry worse. Both and bad, and both meed to be fixed. You ask this question in similar feminist subs, and I bet all the top answers would be misogyny.
/r/MensRights30/11/25 03:08 AM
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You should make a reasonable effort to respect your dating partner morally too.
/r/MensRights30/11/25 02:59 AM
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We're inherently not equal. When equality comes in the form of controlling a woman's body, no. And I imagine most people, even here would agree with that. It would be the same as trying to argue women should get a say in male genital mutilation. It is our bodies. They should not.
/r/MensRights30/11/25 02:52 AM
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Driving especially is bad. I understand the logic behind 'men are a bigger psychical threat due to biology' but here you're literally getting in someone else's car, physicality is not going to change much in this situation. Anyone who thinks men pose substantially more risk to passengers is blatantly sexist.
/r/MensRights29/11/25 02:15 AM
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Your self-admitted hate towards men is literally arguing that its not a big deal men cannot by legal definition be raped in many countries. Good luck seeing any man in this sub argue its not a big deal if I woman couldn't be raped. 99% of men here would all stand against such a legislation openly. And they wouldn't beat around the Bush explaining why it is the way it is. It'd be a simple "that's fucked up and should be changed".
/r/MensRights29/11/25 02:08 AM
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Like all government petitions we submit it feels like 😔
/r/MensRights29/11/25 02:07 AM
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"Men aren't being forced to fight a war in recent times" "Uhhhhh, look at ukraine" "We're talking about america". You are, I'm not. And if you really were, you would've specified from the start anyway, instead of moving goalposts. I've also noticed recently that it's never "we're talking about america" when it comes to women being forced into arranged marriages, or being beaten in the streets. People just recognise that's bad and agree we need to fix it.
/r/MensRights29/11/25 01:58 AM
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n many states a woman cannot get an abortion even if she is raped But by your own logic this would be in place to protect the child.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 06:58 PM
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has lead you to believe that all women are evil? That's putting a lot of words in someone's mouth, when they've never expressed any form of disapproval towards women You're right about one thing though, men and women still aren't equal. Men usually get the short end of the stick.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 06:55 PM
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Wouldn't be the first time people have done it. I couldn't imagine turning on my friends/family without seeing hard proof.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 03:27 AM
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A criminal getting justice is a win. I sincerely hope you would not go to a female victim and say its not a win because you got assaulted, even though you got justice and the perpetrator is locked up to prevent him commiting future crimes. No one is celebrating another victim of crime. no one. Don't purposefully misconstrue what's going on here to fit a different narrative. People are celebrating that she won't violate anyone else's privacy and that there's now a reminder to everyone this kind o…
/r/MensRights28/11/25 03:26 AM
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The proof of the crime is thar he was passed out probably drunk or some shit and she forced her way inside instead of just delivering the food as expected. She did it to herself. She was even specifically instructed to leave it outside. You really think he deserves to be arrested? If I break into someone's house and watch them shower, thats on me, regardless of how assaulted I feel. Same principle here. She then filmed him and posted it, sexually assaulting countless people (by her own logic of …
/r/MensRights28/11/25 03:19 AM
2

I keep seeing comments hating on people for making women's issues about men, and then when the same shit happens in reverse, barely anyone says anything about it. It's a big issue.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 03:11 AM
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They didn’t suggest annexation of my country (Canadian here). They almost definitely did, and just weren't in the forefront to take blame for it. They didn’t vote at the same intensity men did for the current US administration Demonstrably untrue. I’m not worried about misandry. So, you're not worried about the duluth model, hermasmann vs seyer, sexual assault against men, high rates of suicide amongst men, mens lack of rights to bodily autonomy or 1000 other issues?
/r/MensRights28/11/25 03:09 AM
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Because a woman wants to have multiple sexual partners Can't help but notice when you talk about multiple partners, you mention both genders and the way it's seen. Women who are raped, are judged on what they are wearing ? And then you don't mention at all how rape against men is seen. I don't wanna read too much into your comment and misinterpret it, but it certainly made me raise eyebrows.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 03:05 AM
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When they did, it was tied to civil and military conscription Still is in many places, but people like the one you're replying to don't talk about that part
/r/MensRights23/11/25 11:44 PM
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Women who assume they know what men talk about in private
/r/MensRights23/11/25 11:41 PM
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ah, you made the fatal mistake of assuming i view it as a gendered issue, a men vs women issue, which is the exact problem with patriarchy theory. patriarchy theory turns it into men vs women. you know who's oppressed? the poor, who don't have systematic power. i don't think men nor women are more oppressed than the other, we just have bery different challenges facing us in life. besides, you fell into the trap of patriarchy theory too, which is: who is oppressing men? Women? i never said women …
/r/MensRights11/09/22 10:52 PM
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yeah, because patriarchy theory is inherently anti-male. and the MRM would be against the patriarchy, if it were real. but time and time again, feminists use patriarchy merely as a way to explain societal issues without actual doing anything to address it. you think appointing more women in govenrments is suddenly going to fix all misogyny? nevermind the countless misandrist issues facing society. but, lets have a better start. there is no clear cut definition of patriarchy, because different fe…
/r/MensRights11/09/22 10:45 PM
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you probably do. not for saying I also don't think misogynistic language is the route to improving men's lives because you're right, but for assuming I guess I get downvoted for that? but in that case, maybe you could tell pumpkin not to use misogynistic language like 'pick-me'?
/r/MensRights27/08/22 03:24 AM
1

like feminists live in fear of men?
/r/MensRights27/08/22 03:09 AM
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men can't get default equal custody? complain about feminism. you know, on account of them being responsible and all.
/r/MensRights27/08/22 02:38 AM
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sounds like the twox mods.
/r/MensRights25/08/22 07:28 AM
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I'll tell you now, the point i wasn't trying to make was turn it into a gender war. i know plenty of men wouldn't be. I've caught myself not being consistent once or twice (which im still working on ofc, self-improvement and all that). but i never claimed it was gender-specific behaviour. i never focused on an entire gender or movement. i focused on you, the individual. i was going to have a much more valid point if you were inconsistent, but you aren't, so any points that spring to my mind are …
/r/MensRights23/08/22 01:04 AM
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a big thing is that im Just making sure you're consistent in your behaviour. don't want to assume, and plenty of women would not be.
/r/MensRights23/08/22 12:22 AM
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i agree, as a guy who gets the same dms OP is talking about, i ignore them. they frustrate me, im tired of recieving, but i still ignore them. but, again, do you tell other women to ignore them? or do you just ignore them yourself? big difference.
/r/MensRights23/08/22 12:18 AM
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do you say that to women who complain about creepy dms?
/r/MensRights23/08/22 12:14 AM
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and that prevents people messaging you? this is basically the equivalent of when women complain about creepy guys DM'ing them, but without tempting people towards a possible addiction.
/r/MensRights23/08/22 12:12 AM
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i mean, no? im referring to a lot more than tiktok users. i don't even use tiktok. that was just one example of many
/r/MensRights22/08/22 06:11 PM
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true, but im also looking at tons of examples, things people have said, not just anecdotes specific to my life. im also looking at things that seem to have been really popular sentiment. basically, i didn't want you to prove it wrong with just 'im a woman, so you're wrong'.
/r/MensRights22/08/22 05:53 PM
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still discriminatory if they don't ban female equivalents, even if it was for a good reason.
/r/MensRights22/08/22 03:25 AM
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have we banned clementine ford from anything yet? there's your answer. and tbh, i couldn't care less about tate's ban, he seems like a complete scumbag from everything I've heard. it's just, if you're going to censor Andrew Tate, but then let misandrists run rampant on social media, than hell yes it's discrimination. i don't think Tate was banned because he was a male role model or anything, but it is discriminatory to then not ban the female equivalent of Tate. they both stay or neither stay.
/r/MensRights22/08/22 03:24 AM
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guys, I know it’s rough, girls don’t wanna fuck you the old incel argument. you realise we have school aged boys come through here? creepy af to label them as incels. you also realise there's legitimate women here?
/r/MensRights21/08/22 10:08 PM
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"we should give men more PTO because they work more, to make life easier!" yeah, it's dunb.
/r/MensRights21/08/22 10:06 PM
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prove him wrong without relying on your anecdotes. just the other day i was scrolling through YT shorts and a girl was upset at being told "shut up" because 'she's the only girl in the group'. most guys will consistently tell each other to shut up over the slightest thing. for most guys, it's friendly banter, but many girls just can't handle being 'one of the boys'. even the way many girls gossip in detail with each other about their sex life, while the most many boys do is a "yeah, i got some".…
/r/MensRights21/08/22 08:21 PM
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because patriarchy. as per usual. because we benefit from an imaginary boogeyman, they treat raising boys horribly as 'penance'. who would have known feminists are right. patriarchy does cause some of our issues. but not because it's a real thing, just because it allows people to evade accountability for the damage their actions cause to young boys .
/r/MensRights21/08/22 08:18 PM
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the only pathetic thing i see is being unable to consider another person's viewpoint. your art is cool though
/r/MensRights21/08/22 06:20 AM
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i thought feminism was all about women's free will and giving them choice?
/r/MensRights21/08/22 06:18 AM
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and apparently you're misogynistic for even dating to suggest some women sexualise themselves.
/r/MensRights21/08/22 03:29 AM
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we're expected to take accountability for those in power, but can't take credit for those who brought us to this point.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 09:15 PM
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so you choose to take a good thing and turn it into an attack on the sub? not to mention most of the other posts that gain a lot of attention tend to be feminists that come here with good intentions.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 08:42 PM
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i don't believe EU law is 'concrete' over us anymore, as in we don't need to follow it (or very shortly we won't need to). it doesn't take precedent over our own law. but we do still typically follow EU law anyway. been there for so long we don't want to change them i guess.
/r/MensRights18/08/22 05:09 PM
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which is still different to your original point.
/r/MensRights17/08/22 06:22 AM
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well, your point was that women weren't allowed to contribute to societal development. i gave you an example. you said you were thinking older. i gave you older examples, and you said they weren't credited. they were still allowed to contribute, regardless of creditions. and if they were credited that rarely, think about how many more women must have contributed that didn't get credited (a huge problem ofc, but a very different problem).
/r/MensRights17/08/22 04:17 AM
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I do want you to acknowledge that women weren’t allowed to contribute to scientific discoveries or changes you're changing the point.
/r/MensRights17/08/22 04:03 AM
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right to bodily autonomy (genital mutilation) draft parental rights right to innocent untul proven guilty is being stripped away and so, so, so many more. and most men have not treated women like garbage. just like most women don't treat men badly.
/r/MensRights17/08/22 04:00 AM
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i mean, marie curie? Elizabeth Garrett Anderson? Ada Lovelace? Marie-Anne Paulze Lavoisier? all of these women are ancient by modern standards, but contributed to the development of society.
/r/MensRights17/08/22 03:32 AM
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wow dude, solid effort, why are you even here?
/r/MensRights17/08/22 03:28 AM
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in the Western world, if we take the 'power and privilege' argument, you're right. they're not on the same level. misogyny is lesser. women have so many insane privileges in current society. and by the same logic of misandry being rooted in misogyny, you could argue misogyny is rooted in misandry. but good luck explaining why men are seen as more disposable other than 'neccesity for the times'. i don't need a video explaining it, I've watched similar crap countless times. and for the record, i w…
/r/MensRights17/08/22 03:28 AM
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which is weird that a woman's calculations contributed to space travel then. society gets more done working together than continuing this pointless war between genders.
/r/MensRights17/08/22 03:17 AM
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what you don't realise is that your misandry is actually going to breed misogyny.
/r/MensRights17/08/22 03:15 AM
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shouldn't be a surprise. people love to cherrypick so they can generalise and attack entire groups. it's like cherrypicking rapists to say all men are bad. this post is similar, in that it cherrypicks from twox. the only difference is this post picked a bunch of extremely popular twox posts. good luck finding screenshots of misogyny here that was thousands of upvotes popular as well as awarded.
/r/MensRights17/08/22 02:52 AM
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no it isn't. misandry and misogyny both stem from outdated practices that were necessary in a distant era.
/r/MensRights17/08/22 02:36 AM
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the difference is that we actually need more attention given to one of these issues. and don't get me wrong, i think putting it in a paint advert of all things is a bit weird, and comes off more as mocking towards the issue personally, but it's the first time I've actually seen the issue openly addressed.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 04:21 PM
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most feminists are probably just parroting the same shit they heard from a few salty women upset they couldn't live an easy life and actually had to work hard for what they wanted. these lazy women started blaming a 'patriarchy' and discrimination in STEM, and then these other feminists started repeating the discrimination idea, despite being woefully uneducated on the topic. turns out there's no discrimination in STEM.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 01:57 PM
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hell yeah, let's get more of that male fantasy! spongebob:battle for bikini Bottom! who woulda guessed that's misogynistic?
/r/MensRights16/08/22 01:53 PM
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and you're okay with portraying women negatively?
/r/MensRights16/08/22 01:48 PM
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i mean, you're doing practically the exact same thing to both genders and expecting different results. teaching young boys not to rape is going to have negative consequences.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 01:41 PM
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Are you still living in a "Boys vs Girls" world teaching one gender not to rape isn't encouraging this exact same world? don't you think it's a little insensitive towards male victims?
/r/MensRights16/08/22 04:50 AM
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do you not see your own conflict here? it's different because it is? teaching girls safety will give them a negative outlook? teaching boys not to be criminals will give them a positive outlook? that's blatant sexism.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 04:48 AM
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there is when you think it should be gender-specific.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 04:44 AM
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or how about teach no one not to rape? people know it's wrong. also, insert obligatory legal definition explanation about rape here.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 01:36 AM
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i never said it was only women who sexualise themselves. but an awful lot of women do. and the fact that people consider facts misogyny is ridiculous. it would be like me getting upset when someone tells me men are typically stronger. no, i get your concerns. i just don't think the solution is 'teach men not to rape'. people know it's wrong. but to be clear, I'm very aware of the harassment and threats and garbage like that pisses me off. it's absolutely vile and makes me feel sick. no one deser…
/r/MensRights15/08/22 06:33 PM
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good point, women did access narnia. no wonder so many dudes are missing out on the annual meetings now. must be getting overcomplicated.
/r/MensRights15/08/22 07:38 AM
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in this economy? unfortunately, yes. and it shouldn't be.
/r/MensRights15/08/22 03:12 AM
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just be prepared to have it labelled a hangout for incels. a breeding place for misogny. and so on... unfortunately, men-only areas are typically seen as just a space to spread misogyny and make sexist jokes.
/r/MensRights15/08/22 02:51 AM
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but was telling me because she thought it would bring us closer. wtf? why would a woman having an abortion bring you closer? even if you wanted the abortion too, i don't see how it would strengthen a relationship. just that it would ne neutral
/r/MensRights15/08/22 02:40 AM
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they'll screech how that's different because it's not their child these same people would go on to screech about paper abortions in scenarios of paternal fraud. ItS yOuR kId NoW, they cry.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 11:08 PM
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you walk through the back of your closest to arrive at the meeting destination.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 10:53 PM
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some people support it, some people don't, gotta go case by case. i didn't much case for the side effects, obviously it needs to be improved to have less side effects (as do women's BC), but the options are still needed. literally men's only option RN is condoms. and they aren't that effective. there are other options though, they were researching into a gel at one point.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 10:35 PM
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unfortunately it's not just a states problem. its the exact same definition for the entirety of the UK, which makes it easy to slant any UK research on rape. same,applies to many, many countries.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 10:33 PM
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i think if the draft doesn't get abolished, a US drafting is inevitable. maybe im too cynical, but war feels like an inevitability. and whether it's against Russia now, or something else in the far future.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 06:36 PM
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star wars sums modern day feminist representatives up very well. all who gain power are afraid to lose it.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 04:13 PM
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personally, i had a huge falling out with feminism. that kind of led me here, as feminism tends to consider the MRM 'the enemy' (to which cassie jaye did a beautiful talk on, and is another reason im here). some other factors played into it as well, i only just recently learned a friend self-harmed when he was younger (stopped now thankfully), and he received very little support, despite needing loads. he was also scared to open up about it and seek help because there is nothing to assist men in…
/r/MensRights14/08/22 06:21 AM
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well, you've got some people interested. we aren't all overly-cynical. chill around and you can learn more! i promise you're welcomed, it might just be an initial struggle to show people you aren't just a troll. it's important we're all open-minded. i think you've been polite and respectful enough. and all of us here should definitely appreciate the fact you aren't forcing things like toxic masculinity down our throats. that happens a lot from people who claim they want to learn, so you're off t…
/r/MensRights14/08/22 06:03 AM
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i think in large part it stems from outdated beliefs. remember, back during cavemen times, women were absolutely crucial for reproduction. 9 months to birth one baby, while one man could conceive 10 children a day. this led to women being protected (and now the misogyny they're seen as 'weaker'), as well as the misandry of disposability. a lot of people try to argue misandry is always born from misogyny. i don't think so. i think a lot of both have been born from outdated history. there's now bi…
/r/MensRights14/08/22 06:00 AM
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If we fight a serious war... PTSD... don't forget the seriously shitty way most countries treat their veterans.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 05:53 AM
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what does it feel like a pisstake. getting you riled up. pissing you off. mocking. infuriating. see, now generally, the thought it wouldn't hurt has merit. as men, we are obviously a lot physically stronger. it definitely can still, and quite commonly does, hurt, but there's some merit to the idea. especially if the girl has long nails, a well placed slap could easily scratch up your face a bit too. i currently have a small scratch on my arm from an accident with a friend. even that stung. nails…
/r/MensRights14/08/22 04:21 AM
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same. so awkward to never have men to turn to. yet I bet some people would say we're misogynistic for feeling uncomfortable with opening up to women. unfortunately, this'll take such an extraordinarily long tine to happen because society has done such a thorough job of making it seem like any and all men could potentially be pedophiles.
/r/MensRights14/08/22 03:39 AM
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MRM is just abbreviation for the men's rights movement. there's also MR (men's rights), and MRA (men's rights activist/advocate). ferbuggity is just another regular user around the sub. often jokes about being a cranky old woman, but she is very anti-feminist. might be worth looking to have a small chat with her if you're looking for more healthy conversation. haven't read anything from Clementine Ford, so I'll look into it and if it's misandrist then I'll staunchly oppose it as well figured as …
/r/MensRights14/08/22 03:27 AM
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yeah, i hear you, and I've never been particularly insistent on feminists leaving feminism. my aim is just to connect to people and try to weaken the divide between us, which is one of the reasons i always focus on the individual and just forgo labels. it's easy enough for me to just not think of 'bad' feminism when talking with open minded feminists. what matters is that we're on the same side and will support each other. labels be damned. and yeah, plenty of people in every movement are the ve…
/r/MensRights14/08/22 01:35 AM
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how do you reply to certain parts like that? I got reddit like a few days ago so I have no clue how it works. highlight something and there should be an option to quote. alternatively, you can put > and then copy the part you want to quote after it. some other useful reddit tips: put an * on both sides of your messages to put it in italics. put ** on both sides to put your mesage in bold. A # will enlargen any text after it. you can embed links by putting a message in [ ] and the link immediatel…
/r/MensRights14/08/22 12:31 AM
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interesting sub posts to read up on: anti-feminism briefly explained an anti-feminist woman the damage feminism has done and because im trying to raise more awareness for this issue in particular, im just gonna drop the case: Hermesmann v. Seyer, which i try to do with most feminists.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 11:37 PM
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In the exact same way it is ok for a man to feel uncomfortable and cautious around women, for the same reasons. in your perspective, yes. but let me tell you, this is most assuredly not the way men who are cautious around women are treated. dangerous, incel, misogynistic, desperately needs therapy, loner, wimp/pussy, weak. these are just some of the things thrown at men cautious of women. and these are often perpetuated by women (which i only bring up because many feminists like to say "BuT mEn …
/r/MensRights13/08/22 11:32 PM
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ah, goes hand in hand with her talk.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 11:23 PM
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sounds good to me. I'll ramble a bunch of shit about it being beneficial to young boys, offering them reassurance and stuff. i figure maybe linking it to children will encourage google to get off their ass for once.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 11:22 PM
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not having the skill of self-enslavement.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 10:59 PM
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okay, go teach your sons not to rape and tell me how much of their time you wasted. do you really think your own children would grow up to be rapists without your intervention? we live in a hyper female sexualised world because women over-sexualise themselves a lot. this is especially blatant in music. men are not doing this to you, so don't blame men for every issue you face. and twox is swarming with regular misandry. I've checked it out. i understand some perspectives. i feel bad about the wo…
/r/MensRights13/08/22 04:02 PM
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good to hear from you, bugg. Good idea to ask around! check in with people and keep them positive. I've often seen criticism that we don't support or help each other. there goes that idea. wholesome posts might be my favourite. anyway, I'm good, just chilling. hope you're doing well too! good luck on the moving!
/r/MensRights13/08/22 06:45 AM
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perfect challenge. thanks for the best way to sum up the sentiment. cuz the simple answer is, OP won't find one. they get banned. i think I've seen more people banned from this sub for misogyny, than i have misandry.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 06:34 AM
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Most are controversed or outrighted removed by a mod before they can be seen. i think the people who come in here doing all this complaining about rampant sexism in this sub, and all the woman-hating and whatever blah blah, forget one crucial detail. report. and see, unlike with misandry, which is a-okay on reddit, reporting misogyny will actually get a comment removed. and the mods jump to action extremely quickly.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 06:31 AM
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r/Intactivism. bodily autonomy. false information, unnecessary, my body my choice, no anaesthia in many cases, laziness (srsly, wtf, people would rather attack themselves with a knife instead of spending one minute extra to clean?), performed routinely on infants, doctors often pressure new parents into performing it because its 'normal', performed for religious purposes despite the fact FGM was for religion but is outlawed. as you mentioned, infants fucking die. that should be reason alone enou…
/r/MensRights13/08/22 06:13 AM
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oh shit, it's so hard to clean my foot. that takes a lot of balancing and reaching. let me just chop that off instead. just don't be incompetent. this is an american culture thing anyway i think, as non-americans don't struggle to clean. but because most Americans are cut, Americans have no idea how to properly clean. so... benefits other than hygiene?
/r/MensRights13/08/22 06:09 AM
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can also confirm, I've never heard a european complain about it. coincidentally, europeans aren't in the habit of regularly mutilating infants.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 06:07 AM
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it depends on country, i don't remember exactly, but some countries mandate a neccesity for anaesthesia. other countries have no such legal requirement. i haven't read his link, but i suspect it is focused around solely one country, that just so happens to mandate anaesthesia.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 06:06 AM
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One, I'm not sure if i understand it correctly people like u/Bagel_360 found they had a more positive experience here than feminist areas despite being a feminist. she was then banned from said feminist areas for defending us. she isn't the only example, just the only one i saw like today, so i actually remember her user. - she had to make an alt for the sub, but follow my link to the post from a feminist and you'll see her original post to this sub on her main account. we're generally a lot mor…
/r/MensRights13/08/22 05:58 AM
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never tried it personally so refuse to comment. i suspect a lot of people who do comment haven't tried it either. i think the other guy who mentioned pineapple on a different base to plain might have a good idea, sounds fun at least.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 05:25 AM
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man, i hear you, but i think it's important to just recognise them as they come. there's literally no way to know which ones just want equal rights, compared to believing patriarchy theory, compared to wanting female supremacy. and i think generalisations still suck (it's not that hard to put a quantifier) , but they're not necessarily shaming every feminist. you're both right, in certain ways. feminism just has no interest in us, but a few individuals do. we've seen them in people like bagel.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 05:06 AM
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hey, dont put this on me. blame the psychopaths who actually do this weird stuff. im perfectly content with simple cheese, maybe some nice chicken.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 04:59 AM
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i mean, rich people probably eat caviar pizza, right? when they're not busy eatiing gold pizza, anyway.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 04:43 AM
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mentions camaraderie goes on to joke around with, and have causal conversations about moving- this happening as a woman, providing more proof this sub isn't about hating women. yep, good point. there is a lot of camaraderie here. and that's not to mention the general kindness and lifting each other up that i often see, that wouldn't be present in a lot of other subs.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 04:42 AM
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i agree. like i said, i don't really care about the specifics. just make sure to stick them on a registry of some sort, which is currently not happening.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 03:57 AM
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hmm, i think it says a lot that we can actually regularly police our sub, with strong mods quick to respond to outward misogyny, and plenty of people willing to make posts like this, and get mass upvoted. watch a feminist post to a feminist sub about sub quality. see how well that goes.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 03:14 AM
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it's not about revenge. it's about keeping people safe from false accusations.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 03:12 AM
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Find another way to shame them. it's not about shaming them. its about helping people to keep safe from false accusations. sure, plant them on another registry, but don't downplay the reason why it needs to happen.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 03:11 AM
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here's my two cents. why tf do we need to teach men not to rape? that's acting as if men, in any sizeable amount, are going out and raping women everyday. 99.9% of men know rape is wrong. we need to stop rapists, not men. even your own comment is contradictory. if we're going to teach men not to rape, what's the harm of setting up to teach women not to rape and falsely accuse too. if you're going to 'teach' people these things that the large majority of the population know is wrong, why not make…
/r/MensRights13/08/22 03:09 AM
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to them, rape is the most serious subject ever... until men are victims. just like they treat murder i guess.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 03:02 AM
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this is literally what people would perceive as an incel response if it came from a man.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 03:00 AM
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can cause life long trauma similar to PTSD you think false accusations can't? lead to unwanted pregnancy and for girls sometimes as young as 8 or 9 to have a child. not to distract too much from the comparison of false accusations to rape (which we shouldn't be comparing anyway to be real) but Hermesmann v. Seyer.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 02:55 AM
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the vast majority of rape cases are from actual rape and are not fake can't prove it. most rape cases cannot come to a strong conclusion of guilt, ergo you cannot prove which is more prevalent. though yes, I think rape is more common, i don't think it's by nearly the margin people like you love to pretend it is. thinks men are oppressed draft. genital mutilation. homeless rates. suicide rates. lack of shelters. lack of bodily autonomy and reproductive rights. so on. paid more than women in the w…
/r/MensRights13/08/22 02:50 AM
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not what you all seem to think is a feminist i mean, i think a feminist is someone who supports patriarchy theory. i don't like supporting patriarchy theory. ergo, i don't like feminism. anyway, let me redirect you to this comment
/r/MensRights13/08/22 02:46 AM
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i get where you're coming from, and i wanna preface by saying it sucks you were downvoted despite agreeing with OP. but to me, it's quire telling we've had many feminists come through here, have some positive interactions, and then post to feminist subs, only to recieve hate, or be banned. in fact, I'd encourage you to go to feminist hangouts and strike up a discussion about issues like false accusations, and how they need to be addressed more. see how well-recieved that is. i ultimately respect…
/r/MensRights13/08/22 02:44 AM
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also get told I'm not bi because im with a man (8m a woman 😂) man, it's almost like they don't know what being bi means.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 02:33 AM
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they regularly post about the uh hum 'wage' (earnings) gap as well. and i distinctly remember another post they made about women's issues. basically, menslib isn't for men at all. it's to uphold feminisms reputation. they don't give a shit about mens issues. straight virtue signalling. pretending to care about all groups.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 01:06 AM
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well, there are statistics that show roughly 5-10% are both true and false. this leave the middle chunk of 80-90% of cases, with no clear judgment, meaning it could go either way.
/r/MensRights12/08/22 10:14 PM
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some feminists have definitely claimed they don't exist.
/r/MensRights12/08/22 08:21 PM
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"Whatever, so many women have been raped, so what if you get punished so she can be believed" ugh, that made me feel sick. imagine: "whatever, so what if a rape victim gets punished so those claiming false accusations can be believed". i think that's the most disgusting logic I've ever heard anyone use. legitimately sickening.
/r/MensRights12/08/22 08:20 PM
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it sucks, but even though she had been telling the truth, she directly admitted to lying. i don't really see how better to handle that.
/r/MensRights12/08/22 08:17 PM
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unfortunately, unfounded does not mean true either.
/r/MensRights12/08/22 08:14 PM
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Or its like 0.01% this logic from them probably pisses me off most. no matter how low the rate is, why do the falsely accused not deserve justice? why does a low rate mean the accusers deserve no comeuppance? if you don't punish them, they will accuse again. yet a lot of people don't care. they just see a low rate and decide it's not a big deal.
/r/MensRights12/08/22 08:12 PM
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asking the wrong person im afraid. I've got literally no idea. my best guess is that people took your question as disingenuous, even if it wasn't. i mean, we have to deal with a lot of trolls coming through, so people are immensely sceptical. it sucks, but it is what it is. but that's just reddit half the time. you just can't make any sense of the voting on comments.
/r/MensRights11/08/22 05:55 PM
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i think he means the women who use children as weapons and alienate them from fathers.
/r/MensRights11/08/22 04:56 PM
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thetinmen. not famous like some others that have been noted, but well worth the mention
/r/MensRights11/08/22 12:29 PM
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sounds pretty typical to me. i think you'd be amazed at the amount of women who are just fine with sexual harassment like cat-calling so long as the guy has money, or is super handsome. and anyone they deem as subpar can go to hell. these kinds of people are problematic for everyone. the behaviour will only encourage the men who do go out and cat-call, which'll lead to more women villifying all men as disgusting, which'll lead to a greater disconnect between men and women as men are pushed furth…
/r/MensRights11/08/22 10:11 AM
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and it's a lot harder to sabotage.
/r/MensRights11/08/22 04:35 AM
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seems like a rise on tiktok carried him.
/r/MensRights11/08/22 04:31 AM
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okay...? did you miss the part where i said i think more plays into it than just KAM?
/r/MensRights11/08/22 12:44 AM
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ha ha. Really good, funny meme. im glad i saw it everywhere. it really deserved to be that popular. defending misandry like this because 'it wasn't serious' is a pretty harsh thing to do.
/r/MensRights11/08/22 12:39 AM
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i think more plays into it than just KAM, but to deny that KAM has any influence on radicalised men is ridiculous and ignorance. when you start to desire the death of all men, and people see that, you're going to push them furhter into darker, more misogynistic areas. hate breeds hate. you quite literally create your own enemy. misandry creates misogyny.
/r/MensRights11/08/22 12:36 AM
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the vast majority of people aren't defending him.
/r/MensRights11/08/22 12:31 AM
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strong cherrypicking vibes here.
/r/MensRights11/08/22 12:03 AM
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i honestly wouldn't be surprised if saying like this contribute to things like abuse and the reasons men stay in abusive relationships.
/r/MensRights10/08/22 11:58 PM
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i bet you would think everything was fine if women were still unable to vote to have safe spaces and men hardly ever were punished for rape. typical, i disagree with one thing you said, and i must hate women and want them to remain enslaved. meanwhile many men still can't vote unless drafted, unlike women who get to vote for nothing. like i said, you're completely ignorant to any regular thing men go through, and insist being a woman is way harder. at the same time, you lecture men on having no …
/r/MensRights10/08/22 09:27 PM
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i wasn't talking about false allegations or undermining in general, just specifically the twisting of men who are unable to take rejection. i have never heard of that before but i guarantee its more common than i thought. OP took rejection well, the ex took the loss of easy life extremely hard. just gross what some people can do.
/r/MensRights10/08/22 06:38 AM
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I'd say worth a shot but you know the silly goose a lot better than me. i also respect ypu not wanting to get too involved over worries about drama. it sucks though, i get why he took her back, and why he won't just leave her sorry ass. but he really does need to develop some semblance of self-worth. i feel bad for him, but if you don't think there's anything that can be done, go with your gut.
/r/MensRights10/08/22 06:36 AM
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idk your relationship with him (if any), but consider telling him he's getting used. maybe show him some horror stories of bad divorces/gold digger relationships to wake him up to reality. you could totally give him a hand, extended family be damned. no one deserves to be taken advantage of.
/r/MensRights10/08/22 06:09 AM
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isn't one of the main feminist sticking points that they earned the right for women to be independent from men and have their own credit card? now you've got tons of women who want a man to give them a credit card, and i hear nothing about it. what? that doesn't make sense.
/r/MensRights10/08/22 06:02 AM
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You realize that we literally have condoms as well + dozens of options? not nearly enough people talk about female condoms. especially from feminist communities. imagine the outrage if women worldwide lost abortion access, and their only contraceptive was these bad boys? hell, they don't even need to lose abortion access and there would be an outrage.
/r/MensRights10/08/22 05:49 AM
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Men will never completely understand what this means reverse your logic, women think they know everything about what a man goes through. you're even doing it yourself too. hell, you seem to think men have it so easy. plenty of men fear for their lives at night, and i think it's silly not to. fear will help keep you safe, regardless of who you are. tons of men get harassed at gyms, and not just sexually. physically, or portrayed as perverts and creeps by antagonistic women. or tons of other ways.…
/r/MensRights10/08/22 05:44 AM
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ah, i keep pushing. it's poor advice to tell someone to get a sterilisation process for contraception. it's not a contraceptive, it's sterilisation, and should be treated as such. this does come with the unfortunate side effect that men literally only have one form of contraception, but what will you do? stuck waiting on more to release in the meantime.
/r/MensRights10/08/22 05:39 AM
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She started fighting with me and making me feel so bad...saying to me that I can't face rejection or can't handle 'no'. Then started commenting on my height etc. Even told me that I took revenge from her because she rejected me. wow. first time I've ever heard of someone choosing to vilely twist this, and undermine the women who actually faced problems rejecting crazy men. now in starting to wonder how common it is. i bet it's just another trick in the ol' book for manipulators, gaslighters, and…
/r/MensRights10/08/22 05:31 AM
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What would she gain out of lying?' idk, maybe they should ask the liars instead of the accused?
/r/MensRights09/08/22 08:10 PM
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which is just fine until feminists treat it like it does. besides, it's not a huge leap to assume feminism wouldn't be a hivemind either based off that. i know they aren't the same, but im comfortable poking a hole in OP's logic based off similarities.
/r/MensRights08/08/22 11:45 PM
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i said it before, but there's only one slightly valid argument to financial abortions. and it's not a good enough reason for 18 years of financial enslavement. unless you're pro-life. but it's not hard to get people's opinions on that and recognise it's just a difference of ethical standpoints.
/r/MensRights08/08/22 06:37 PM
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she forgot about a lot more than that. anyway, her argument would just be FGM is worse.
/r/MensRights08/08/22 05:00 PM
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Was it not men that discouraged women from taking those jobs? can you say why it matters now? also, why aren't other women encouraging each other to take up these jobs. i only see hugher jobs like politics encouraged. besides, you solved your own counter-argument. men aren't a hivemind either. most of us don't care about seeing more women in these jobs, so why should it primarily be men working these more dangerous/dirty jobs? i guarantee you like 60% of these positions are filled by men who'd b…
/r/MensRights08/08/22 04:29 PM
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thought she said women aren't a hivemind? now she's saying feminists support a gender-neutral draft.
/r/MensRights08/08/22 04:18 PM
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Myth: A lot of victims lie about being raped or give false reports. Fact: Only 2-8% of rapes are falsely reported, the same percentage as for other felonies.[3] 2-8% is still a hell of a lot of victims lying, so they did nothing to 'disprove' the myth. additionally, this only accounts for allegations proven false, the same way rape allegations that are proven true account for a very small amount. there's a huge amount of undetermined allegations in there. rape allegations could just as easily be…
/r/MensRights08/08/22 06:14 AM
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ah, thanks for doing the legwork for me while i was engaged in other things. they still haven't addressed pretty much any point (unless you count evasion as addressing), but i suspect they won't respond to this now you've cornered them, even to just acknowledge you're right, so.... i wonder if they'd have resorted to insults if i didn't already call them out on being rude. this is the prime example of why many here don't waste their time debating/why these people are written off as trolls.
/r/MensRights08/08/22 05:53 AM
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if women don't want to raise a child, then i suggest you not have any children. it seens very simple. but i can tell you right now tons of women sleep around and cheat. if it's that simple, why are women upset over RvW? abortions shouldn't be an issue, because they just wouldn't have children, right?
/r/MensRights08/08/22 04:56 AM
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men are the ones who have set these unreal standards for them long before now women slut shame other women. i shouldn't care?
/r/MensRights08/08/22 04:54 AM
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Men sleep around and nobody cares. this shows a lot of ignorance to the male experience, as plenty of people care. Many men deadbeat and face no repercussions many men deadbeat and face repercussions too. many women deadbeat and and encouraged to. (safe haven laws). It’s not for her. It’s for the child and child support needs to be re-worked to ensure that money is actually being spent on the child. there's a lot of cases it isn't No woman wants an abortion either. It’s a last effort resort. The…
/r/MensRights08/08/22 04:51 AM
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well, to be clear, everyone's enslaved by the powerful. it's just that the current way society works is the best way we've got. besides, we're talking specifically about the draft, which is enslavement. and causes people's suffering.
/r/MensRights08/08/22 04:38 AM
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im european. the world doesn't revolve around you. there's no need to be rude. and you also entirely skipped over the other point.
/r/MensRights08/08/22 04:37 AM
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they hate video games because 'it fulfills the male fantasy'. whatever that means.
/r/MensRights08/08/22 04:36 AM
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huh, and i thought feminists would rather abolish the draft instead of keeping men enslaved and suffering.
/r/MensRights08/08/22 04:34 AM
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i mean, im pretty worried that if russia take Ukraine, they won't stop at ukraine. i also don't know how worried the average Ukrainian male was about being drafted before he got drafted. now he's stuck in a warzone against his will.
/r/MensRights08/08/22 04:32 AM
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it's short for men go their own way. it involves distancing yourself in some way from women. - this, i know. im no professional on MGTOW, but i believe it can range as mild to not actively seeking relationships to as extreme as completely avoiding all women. - this im not 100% sure on.
/r/MensRights08/08/22 04:28 AM
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just like with the desire for mandatory vasectomies. and god knows how many more revenge plays they'll invent over something a woman helped overturn.
/r/MensRights08/08/22 04:27 AM
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because they missed the most obvious sarcasm in the world. and if his b-b-but wasn't enough, check his post history and see how against MGM he is. he clearly isn't being serious.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 07:16 PM
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depends, can i cross out girls and just write 'i'? or alternatively, write 'the powerful'?
/r/MensRights07/08/22 07:15 PM
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i mean, tbf, she's not implying to send them off to jail. however, she is definitely implying to treat her brother like a criminal and a villain despite a lack of evidence. an idea which is pretty sucky.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 04:43 PM
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wait, isn't feminism mad girls don't rule the world, and instead its,'the damned patriarchy' and men that rule? some logical flaws there i can't follow. unless, ofc, this is them admitting patriarchy is BS.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 04:39 PM
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unlike the draft... huh. so feminists want equal pay because biology prevents it, but want men to fight wars because biology enforces it? weird. and if anyone is thinking it, don't even try with the 'feminists want to abolish the draft' argument. they've never taken steps towards it and I've interacted with a lot of feminists who's rather have a gender-specific draft if if isn't abolished.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 07:34 AM
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a wage gap doesn't exist. an earnings gap does.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 07:31 AM
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earnings gap. need to stop misrepresenting it as a wage gap if you want the solution. ofc, that's only if people actually want it fixed, and the feminism movement doesn't. they'd lose too much power without the only myth femimists refer to about women being oppressed. wanna fix the 'wage gap'? a huge first step would be helping men to be more involved in their childrens lives, particularly by giving them more time away from the workplace. this means less time would be detracted from the mother w…
/r/MensRights07/08/22 07:29 AM
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I'm sure feminists have come up with some kind of reason/justification for why companies don't hire all women, many, including my personal favourite: they legitimately think men are hiring other men just to maintain the patriarchy and male privilege. its literally just a conspiracy theory. another one of my favourites here: "What they're missing is that women tend to get paid less at least in part because they're taken less seriously and valued less as workers, which leads to fewer raises and pr…
/r/MensRights07/08/22 07:21 AM
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Alimony or child support is paid for child, not for women child support is. and how much CS do you think is actually spent on the child? alimony is not. Most people don't want, we should focus on lifting this burden from men, not getting women into this. many people do want too. i could go either way on the necessity of a draft, but i do care its equal. if it can't be abolished, women must be drafted.
/r/MensRights07/08/22 07:04 AM
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well, of course. if feminists valued the perspective of trans individuals, they wouldn't have a purpose.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 04:51 PM
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ObViOuSlY We OnLy MeAn MeN wHo DiSaGrEe WiTh Us. and fr, feminists, if you don't mean all men, quantify your shit. it's not that hard. in fact, it's not hard at all. its one damn word. stop defending gross generalisations.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 05:49 AM
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and this is one of the reasons why most of us have turned away from feminism. there was another feminist recently too, i can't remember her user. she posted here and then posted to the feminism sub about some of the less positive responses she recieved here. what stunned her was that she found far more positive interactions with people here than on the feminism sub.
/r/MensRights06/08/22 03:42 AM
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told ya. I've seen it happen too many times. unpopular opinion is the worst one anyway, because it's just a garbagefest of recycling popular opinions that people masquerade as unpopular. if you're actually interested in the unpopular opinion sub, you could try r/trueunpopularopinion. haven't been there myself. out of curiosity, what opinion did you share?
/r/MensRights06/08/22 03:03 AM
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works for feminism. it shouldn't, and we shouldn't let it work for us, but it does. there's also now a source so....
/r/MensRights06/08/22 12:34 AM
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let me guess, you think men never get ridiculed in any way, and only women get shit? and, no, body positivity is not all online. where did body positivity even come from in this discussion? Lol if a woman with kids from 3 different fathers was running for President everyone would be talking about it. oh yeah? prove it. but you can't.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 11:19 PM
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isn't one of the problems women complain about the fact more women aren't world leaders or CEO's? now you have a problem people can't show you promiscuous female leaders? yeah, of course they cant. do you really think it would be the same if women were leaders more than men? combined with the pressure not to think of women's sex lives. hell, why are you bringing up sex life for these people? your sex life has no bearing on how good you'll be at leading, so it's not generally talked about in rela…
/r/MensRights05/08/22 09:38 PM
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assuming the father is actually made aware of the child by the mother.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 09:32 PM
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that's an extraordinarily bad comparison. you mean to tell me that just because people in power have more sexual relations, men are viewed more favourably?
/r/MensRights05/08/22 09:31 PM
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safe haven laws beg to differ.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 08:58 PM
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imagine a woman who abandons his children. now imagine a man who abandons them.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 06:04 PM
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that's all I've seen you do.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 06:03 PM
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having checked out that thread it does appear his disconnect with another was a problem, but some people just assumed he was misogynistic, with very little proof. he appreciated people who were actually helpful, if they told him about his disconnect issue in a polite manner. some wanted to villify him. why aren't you getting on at them about their attitude? and yeah, bringing is someone's post history is a shitty thing to do.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 05:52 PM
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I'd discuss the logical fallacy once and then save the comment for future reference. anyway, i just ask them why it matters, because not a single feminist seems to be able to exppain that. because they can't. because they're just trying to dismiss the point.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 05:36 PM
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eh, im kinda torn on this. on the one hand, it can be legitimately stressful, and even mentally strenuous on a partner during childbirth, especially if they have to put up with constant vitriol from a pregnant partner's mood swings. on the other hand, labour is undeniably worse for women. this should not be taken and turned into a men's issue, because women suffer for a long time due,to pregnancy. this is assuming a c-section wasn't needed. i just think its still worth acknowledging the strain i…
/r/MensRights05/08/22 05:59 AM
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have you got a reason other than misandry they'd protest a men's shelter?
/r/MensRights05/08/22 05:47 AM
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eh, will still be glad to have it as an option. can't say if I'd take it, but at least it's there. side effects suck for everyone, but im guessing it's quite hard to develop a contraceptive without drawbacks. im sure some people will take the side effects. better than just condoms or being expected to sterilise anyway.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 05:41 AM
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welp, never forget you've actually got a community that cares here. happy birthday! i hope you enioy it, cuz you deserve to.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 05:39 AM
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exactly. just a way to downplay things when a man falls victim. like usual.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 05:35 AM
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you think that's fuckabke? not unless you mean fuck right off into the garbage. god, i was going to make a joke about being in before some dumbass says "He WaS lUcKy", but you'd have to blind and depraved to suggest that.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 05:34 AM
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legal definitions. they just love loopholes to downplay female offenders, or minimise male victims.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 05:30 AM
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right, like "women" aren't oppressed for being "women".
/r/MensRights05/08/22 12:23 AM
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she/he literally says because there are men in power, men can't be oppressed. well, barack Obama was president, so i guess black people couldn't possibly be oppressed. well, Hillary clinton was almost president, ACB sits on SCOTUS, and a ton more, so i guess women could never be oppressed. it's the stupidest logic ever. im pretty sure, by that logic, no one who has ever been oppressed could have actually been,oppressed. i literally can't even comprehend that.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 10:25 PM
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there are powerful people at the top who oppress other people. do you know throughout history how many women have sent men to die for their wars?
/r/MensRights04/08/22 10:20 PM
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rather be forced to flee than forced to fight. and women are more than welcome to volantarily fight instead of fleeing. a luxury men do hot have. that is how it's oppression. hell, even if women were forced to fight too, it would still be oppression. the draft is oppression, it just wouldn't be gendered oppression. but women aren't forced to fight.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 10:18 PM
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consistently forced to die i never said it affects uniquely men, horrible things happen to wonen as a result of war, but women are not forced to die. they're typically refugees fleeing.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 08:55 PM
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Hermesmann v. Seyer is the case that set the precedent.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 06:40 PM
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title IX is not my speciality im afraid. from my understanding of it, it makes false accusations much easier. and while being at college and stuff, still young, you're probably less likely to think of damage. unfortunately, there are women who use allegations as a method of revenge, or for other reasonsz and title IX enables them. safe haven laws literally just allow a woman to abandon her baby, no sweat.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 05:21 PM
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genital mutilation is mostly outlawed, only for women. they don't have to sign up for the draft. dultuh model. title IX. the UK government directly told judges to be more lenient to female offenders. apparently the presumption of innocence men don't have anymore. safe haven laws.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 04:51 PM
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yeah, that's a problem im well aware of too. and the simple thing is, i just don't have a solution. i don't really want to force women to carry children that were conceived as rape, just like i don't want men to have to support their rapists children. but i don't know the answer.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 04:44 PM
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prolonged cruel treatment? where else are you going to find a group of people consistently forced to die in wars throughout all of history. yeah, I'd say that's prolonged enough. don't forget worldwide genital mutilation.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 03:32 PM
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bleugh, i just went to look up MRA successes to see if there was a simple list. well, MRA returned me something about magnetism before it returned me a political advocate. and then when i did men's rights successes, the sheer amount of vitriol directed at it, the top link literally bejng "saving men from it". wow. can't even suggest the MRM does anything positive.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 03:30 PM
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sure. abortion im heavily pro-choice, but i think one of two things needs to happen. either a), there needs to be an 'out' for men who have unwanted children, or b) abortion needs to be more heavily restricted. if men can't remove their accountability for unwanted children, i don't think women should be able to either. i know a lot of people will use arguments like "it's different", and "but a woman's health", "rape". this is why i said heabily restricted. women should still get abortions for he…
/r/MensRights04/08/22 01:33 PM
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I've got a little faith you can make it work due to how well you formed your point here, but you're not the first feminist to come here, and then post to feminists subs. only for the others to be completely shit all over. they really don't like us.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 12:48 PM
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i think it's best to be sceptical of lurkers. not immediately villify them. im tired of everything being villified. men have been the bad guy for long enough. the other guy still has a point in that often lurkers won't have the best intentions, but it's not a reason to immediately write them off.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 06:25 AM
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they probably get most their insults off google. what did you expect? top tier roasting?
/r/MensRights04/08/22 06:23 AM
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feminist hell sounds like heaven to me. just a bunch of nice women and dudes chilling and having fun. no gender war, no misogyny or misandry. just chill.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 06:22 AM
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the funniest part about this is i distinctly remember times you've expressed a dissenting opinion on this sub and faced 'the wrath'. still not enough for them? man, they really don't like us.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 06:20 AM
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of course, definitely not to discredit your own experiences either. im deeply sorry you've been in a position where you considered going to such lengths, and i hope it can change in the near future. and likewise, it would be extremely easy to look at the guys you saw in hospital for attention and start thinking any suicidal man who attempted was doing it for attention. but you don't. this is what we have to strive for. we're influenced by our experiences and we can only reject them to look at ha…
/r/MensRights04/08/22 06:09 AM
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that edit was key. the 'i believe in true gender equality' feminists should be nice friends. you can argue as much as you want about them being true feminists or not, but it's ultimately just a label if they don't uphold patriarchy theory.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 06:05 AM
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oh, please do post to feminist subs! would not be surprised to see you get banned. or at least, wouldn't be surprised to see them consider you a 'lost cause' for interacting with us. and the fact you've had some positive interactions? oh, the horror.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 06:02 AM
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i don't particularly think you need explaining how men are disposable. i think you can see that i just think you need someone to distinctualise how society treats men as disposable compared to the fact men shouldn't be disposable. when people say men are disposable, it's because we're usually referring to how society views us, not how we actually think of ourselves. we all know borh genders are important and shouldn't be discarded. unfortunately, only women are protected.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 06:00 AM
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it's hard to say. this thread actually has a crazy amount of positivity towards feminism, for as anti-feminist as the sub is. a lot of people are focusing on an individual scale instead of honing in on the label. i think that's great. people are entitled to voice their gripes with feminism, but we need to be welcoming to individual feminists who aren't forcing patriarchy and toxic masculinity down our throats. i also don't blame people for being sceptical, but it's also important to realise we l…
/r/MensRights04/08/22 05:57 AM
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eh, go down a rabbit hole and youll find something. draft. abortion. euthanasia. people aren't gonna agree on everything. the original commentor hit it perfectly, the important thing is your here offering a genuine attempt.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 05:54 AM
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she's very clearly making an effort. at least make an effort to indulge her for 5 minutes instead of pushing any potential newcomer away?
/r/MensRights04/08/22 05:51 AM
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okay... so Where's my affirmative action for teaching? beauty? any female dominated field?
/r/MensRights04/08/22 05:48 AM
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Feminists made domestic violence a gendered issue, misrepresenting the issue, most victim resources for females only. duluth model baby. isn't it amazing? /s
/r/MensRights04/08/22 05:47 AM
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i got you here friend an easy example is NOW (national organisation of women) campaigning against default 50/50 custody. i think it sucks you got downvoted for asking questions, though you probably could have done without the last part of the comment. unfortunately, yeah, feminist representatives blow. clementine ford comes to mind. a lot of individuals just believe in the "if you believe in equality, that makes you a feminist" shtick.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 05:46 AM
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you get the general idea im trying to portray though, im sure. our personal experiences influence a lot, and it's hard to ignore them to look objectively at something. so i notice a trend of 'attention-seeking' behaviour, and i always end up thinking about it if i learn of women who want to die. slowly breaking away from it to focus on the individual. just not easy. welp, all there is, is to keep trying.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 05:39 AM
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you're a solid 8 for personality. beauty be Damned. thanks for having our backs on this.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 05:36 AM
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height? balding (apolecia)? weight? (women are also held to this one). facial hair? muscular? at least women get body positivity. i think what you meant to say is you don't have beauty standards for men. you do not represent all women.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 05:35 AM
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Some might reduce us to attention seeking whores i try not to reduce it to this, but we are shaped by personal experiences, and that ultimately has been my trend. but i am doing better with looking at individual cases and not the trend I've sxperienced. my closest friend self harmed for years (long ago, he's much better) and i only recently found out while chatting because he didn't want anyone to know. he was scared of people thinking he was an attention seeker, as well as not wanting to burden…
/r/MensRights04/08/22 05:30 AM
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yeah, you should just try to forget about it. there's no way to rationalise unironically accusing someone of hating a group, after immediately hating on a group yourself. this becomes particularly pronounced with gender. you get called a misogynist so much for just daring to support men, and then many women go on to hate and generalise all men for the actions of a few. you just can't work with that.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 05:19 AM
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just called men rapists I hated women huh.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 01:20 AM
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welcome, i hope you stick around a little and learn some things. and, most inportantly, i just hope you have a good time here. while you're here, you'll probably see a lot of anti-feminism rhetoric. this does not mean we hate you as an individual, nor do we hate women. we welcome open-minded individuals, and most of us love women. i always like sharing this with new feminists so they properly understand the stance of much of this subreddit and here is a more wholesome place to start regardless o…
/r/MensRights04/08/22 01:17 AM
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8-13 and they sexually abused you? are we going to turn an eye to the obvious pedophilia? even if this somehow wasn't abuse (which it definitely is)....
/r/MensRights04/08/22 01:11 AM
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then the problem should have been handled before war broke out. but look what happens when you bring up the draft. "ThE LaSt AmErIcAn DrAfT wAs In ThE 70's". no shit, when was the last ukraine draft before 2022?
/r/MensRights04/08/22 01:09 AM
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probably because a lot legitimately believe it, and don't realise they're actually supporting a supremacist movement.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 01:06 AM
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Isn't the issue not so much that men don't have access but more that there isn't more options? i mean, to an extent? women have access to things like condoms too, which aren't limited. meanwhile, if you wanted to include sterilisation procedures, borh genders get rejected from those. I'd say both the options and access can be an issue. even in cost it's not always easy. women get restricted access to many options, but they also get options that aren't heavily restricted (to my knowledge). there …
/r/MensRights04/08/22 12:58 AM
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Thats because of the gender stereotype that only men can fight and women cant, and thats because of misogyny. i could easily just say that same gender stereotype is misandrist, and the misogyny was born from that. there's a 100 stereotypes that play into this. like men being protectors, or disposable. and they could be misogyny born from misandry, as they could in reverse. Circumcision was invented by men. which doesn't change the fact its, a) misandry, and b) women perpetuate it. 'Lets trash on…
/r/MensRights03/08/22 04:30 PM
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gender roles of men being protectors. viewing men as disposable. concerns over reproduction. women always being seen as 'higher value' in society. general apathy towards men. and a small bit of legitimate misogyny women were weaker. there's a million reasons.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 04:15 PM
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a variety of reasons, but it doesn't matter. what matters is that it was, and still is. and it's sexist.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 06:35 AM
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i heard that, im honestly not sure. i haven't seen evidence pointing one way or the other. however, it wouldn't change the fact the draft is still existent in many, many countries, and i guarantee almost all of them have a gender-specific draft.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 06:33 AM
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numbers advantage
/r/MensRights03/08/22 06:30 AM
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oh please, they'll just say something vague about patriarchy and 'who made it that way', 'it's men not letting women participate', and so on.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 06:29 AM
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i love how they reject the draft being worthy of talking about because it last happened so long ago. i actually don't know the last US draft by heart. in fairness, they did say it in response to the "this thing that happened to women was last in the 20's" which is fair, but.... let's move out of the US. I've had this running joke for a while: looks at ukraine surprised pikachu face. the draft is still very much an ongoing concern, and even in America, the fact it's not abolished means it could s…
/r/MensRights03/08/22 06:27 AM
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huge respect because you're braver than me lol. i would not be registering if i had a choice (and were american). seriously though, i don't get why many women find it so hard to understand, apart from fear of being drafted (a fear which is very valid) the draft, in its current form, is inherently sexist. i mean, many women seem perfectly content watching their family forced into conscription? like WTH? I'd be pissed. but i don't see that many women speaking up about it, unless prompted. maybe it…
/r/MensRights03/08/22 06:23 AM
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well the kind of arguments you'd be getting is "why should women fight a war men started"? to which still, not a single person has ever been able to explain to me why it matters who started something. if men lose the war, women are affected too. women should be willing to help fight if they're going to support a draft, or they lose their homes and more.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 06:15 AM
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Well, saving this post for the next time anyone tries to claim we're just an incel group that hates women. this has legitimately been one of my favourite threads recently, it's just been super wholesome. if only feminist subs did this.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 06:09 AM
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a 'pick-me' is just implying you're willing to do anything for male attention. wow, you must be so attention starved and desperate for men to support equal rights, right? the entire concept is just silly. like, there's totally a point of 'you've gone too far solely in an attempt to get male validation', but the amount of times I've seen the term used for people who just support men's issues? it's... something.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 06:05 AM
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I'll upvote you for your well thought out comment and the effort you put in. i might not like absolutely everything, but there is value to be found in your comment. and hey, i might have a few issues, but I'd rather just leave this as a thread for positivity and reaffirming that all are welcome here. but, ah, of course, when logic fails, people always result to hurling slurs and insults at each other. are you really that apathetic that you have no concern over what your cruelty might make people…
/r/MensRights03/08/22 06:02 AM
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you say cranky, i say caring.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 05:53 AM
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yep, sorry to say, but your choice of literature is informing me you are very obviously a man with no room for absolutely anything else other than a penis. sarcasm obviously
/r/MensRights03/08/22 05:52 AM
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your two cents is worth a lot, and it's great to hear.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 05:46 AM
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welp, you've been 'picked'. just not in the way they imply. you've just been invited to be a part of the community, and a very welcome member.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 05:44 AM
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been there with personal circumstances nearly making me discriminatory. it sucks. can't express how grateful i am about avoiding that fate. I'm sure you'll find someone when you're ready! i hope you have good luck with it! it’s quite empowering honestly this actually made me laugh a little. for all feminists try to 'empower' women, and it turns out all you actually had to do to feel empowered was support everyone? who coulda guessed?
/r/MensRights03/08/22 05:42 AM
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hey, thanks for being the best 'pick-me' you can be! you won't be picked, because you are 'just like the other girls', which is to say you're a human being with free will, who chooses to exercise that decision-making power women have a right to. there's nothing special about you (unless they consider being kind and considerate special?) and that's not a bad thing! you're just one of us. the people who use 'pick-me' unironically are probably the exact people looking to be 'picked' by society. the…
/r/MensRights03/08/22 05:39 AM
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mistakes happen. we get angry, we get emotional, things get heated. you obviously messed up by throwing the glass, and it shouldn't have happened, but you seem to have immediately realised that. as you said, its years down the line, better to just let it go and ensure nothing like that happens again. guilt proves you don't mean bad.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 05:33 AM
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children are obvious and irrelevant. society needs to drop the 'women and children' phrase. it's rooted in traditionalism. but, as for women escaping. it's always women first. we all know if women built the titanic, women would still be the first ones evacuated. hell, let's not look at boats. Ukraine and russia go to war, and who's safety gets prioritised? it's always women first.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 05:23 AM
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sure, there's plenty of reasons to be proud of being a woman. he made a confident statement that he's proud to be a dude. nothing is stopping you from being proud of being a woman. personally, i take no pride in having specific genitalia and chromosomes, i take pride in actual achievements, but to each their own.
/r/MensRights03/08/22 05:19 AM
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Can you give me an example of someone being a misandrist without it being a response to misogyny? sure. how about all the women who expect men to fight and they don't have to. how about mothers who circumcise their children? you can't prove that the all killallmen/allmenarettrash crowd is all a misogyny response. are you really so foolish you believe not a single woman wants to uphold a man's traditional gender roles? there's so many ways misandry is born other from misogyny. men are not inheren…
/r/MensRights03/08/22 02:56 AM
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However, if you are talking about women being misandrists, then thats a response to misogyny. not always, and misogyny is often a response to misandry. and that doesn't answer the question about why it matters who set the system up.
/r/MensRights02/08/22 07:45 PM
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like i said, i refuse to comment personally and pin it more on expectations put on men to protect and provide. i just figured it was worth a mention.
/r/MensRights02/08/22 11:56 AM
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first bits, im all down for. maybe little issues here and there but i mostly agree. I'm curious what you mean by limits to access to contraceptives for men? This sounds like a shared difficulty. it definitely is a shared issue, but moreso for men, and it is caused by government. one element of it, quite simply, is the choice of contraception. because it's harder to stop sperm than stop/protect a singular egg, women get tons more options. the pill, IUD, injections, condoms, and more. they also kn…
/r/MensRights02/08/22 04:31 AM
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because of the 'health benefits' which are questionable at best.
/r/MensRights02/08/22 04:14 AM
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the documentary (red pill) is a must watch companion piece to her talk, and vice versa. to a lesser extent I'd also recommend Daryl Davis' ted talk about why he attended the KKK rallies, despite being a black man. it's pretty insightful, and can even (unintentionally) shed some light on gender issues, despite not being the focus. - feminists need to listen to him.
/r/MensRights02/08/22 04:10 AM
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gender roles are a huge part because men are expected to protect, but also to provide. the military is an easy way of providing, pressure women usually don't face. i would suggest this is by far the biggest reason men sign up more than women, as well as men being viewed disposably, which may reflect upon individual men to view themselves as disposable, even though we all know men aren't disposable. i do want to give a nod to the alleged sexual harrassment that happens in the military though. now…
/r/MensRights02/08/22 04:07 AM
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this is something that is rarely thought about, but it's a smart point. its not only racist towards non-POC, but it's also inherently racist to POC for implying they aren't capable.
/r/MensRights02/08/22 03:50 AM
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You mean fucking your husband. That’s the only thing you classify as “effort”? but you’re convinced she quit trying because her libido tanked no and no. you clearly chose to argue before reading, as i don't even recall saying a single thing about sex ITT, even though i ageee 'no sex' is a valid reason to leave any relationship. anyway, i never classified my 'effort'. re-read my first comment. i asked what options you have if your partner isn't willing to put effort into your relationship, to whi…
/r/MensRights02/08/22 03:43 AM
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nah, i mean, I've gotten into a lot of discussions over things like patriarchy. I've changed some people's minds, I've seen others remain steadfast in their thoughts, but I've almost always been able to make some kind of common ground. it's a bridge that means at least someone might be willing to listen to you. it's a lot better than hurling insults at strangers anyway. these days, i just tend to ignore what i disagree with, unless there's an obvious counter to be made (e.g., "men don't have any…
/r/MensRights02/08/22 01:18 AM
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which again, doesn't give you an excuse from putting effort into your relationship.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 11:20 PM
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Women are now part of the draft equal to men if they were born 2000 or later. That is a bit of a moot point now. i actually haven't heard of this, but it's definitely not a moot point for 2 reasons regardless. 1) the amount feminists refer to how women were unable to vote. makes unequal drafting fair to discuss. 2) i don't imagine this applies to every country with a draft. Getting lost in the "I have it worse" conversation is my whole point. It's not good for anyone. i agree, but at that point,…
/r/MensRights01/08/22 06:28 PM
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i mean, bodily autonomy is just about having control over your own body, right? you ever meet my friend, circumcision? or Hermesmann v. Seyer. sperm jacking? using the sperm of a dead man? lack of contraception? i could go on too. men do not have bodily autonomy, and i have no idea where women get this idea, apart from feminism. reasonable safety what, like being the majority of homicides? I've never even had what you've had ah, you're right, women have never had to sign up for the draft in orde…
/r/MensRights01/08/22 05:03 PM
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wish it wasn't everyday you saw someone trying to gatekeep their gender. curiously, Mary is the exact kind of person who i picture when i say feminism hurts everyone. feminism doesn't like free will.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 04:55 PM
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. Mainly it's the most ignorant and indoctrinated ones who don't hell, you can be ignorant and indoctrinated, and you still might have some good interactions. we have people that are feminists still lurking around and hanging out, even commenting occasionally. and because they aren't constantly trying to force patriarchy down our throats, they get well recieved.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 04:53 PM
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You’re definitely not a female and how would we know? she pretends to be a woman, her reddit icon is of one, she has queen in her reddit name, she calls herself a woman on numerous occasions. we have literally no way to know she's not a woman other than our own suspicions, and most of us have better things to do than play guessing games with 'female pretenders' and upvote them because they're a man in disguise. if your theory was right, ferbuggity would be downvoted as a woman too, even if she w…
/r/MensRights01/08/22 04:50 PM
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Remember "girls are made of sugar and spice and everthing nice?" What are little boys made of? Snips, snails, And puppy-dogs' tails. That's what little boys are made of What are little girls made of? sugar and spice, all things nice. That's what little girls are made of. The rhyme appears in many variant forms. For example, other versions may describe boys as being made of "snaps", "frogs", "snakes" or "slugs", rather than "snips" as above. alternatively, a much shorter example: girls rule, boys…
/r/MensRights01/08/22 04:40 PM
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birth has literally nothing to do with what we're talking about? you can't use "women get pregnant" as a get out of jail free card. yeah, its effort, and men should generally put effort in in turn, to raise the child after. but you can't always use it as an excuse. putting effort into giving birth does not get you out of putting effort into your relationship.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 03:30 PM
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Well I would say it would be better to not let men drive as they cause most of the serious/deadly accidents. in this case it would be better to not let women raide children as they cause most of the infanticide cases.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 06:24 AM
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Just make a rule where you agree to avoid these topics i don't think they argue because of specific topics. she just seems to hate her son for being a man. and tbh, the moment where physical assault comes into play is the moment where you stop listening.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 06:22 AM
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sometimes you just gotta let bad comments sit or day or so before assuming things from them. multiple times I've seen horrible shit said in this sub, only to be mass downvoted soon after. hell, I've seen people post comments to other subs to show 'how bad and misogynistic we are', when in reality the comments were very quickly deleted by mods. but despite that, there are a few legitimately distasteful things in here. the comment about mazlows hierarchy got me, but i brushed it off as the guy bei…
/r/MensRights01/08/22 12:21 AM
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it can be demonstrated in other ways, but sex can also be non-negotiable for a relationship. this isn't as straightforward as "takes care of your woman and her needs" or "cheat on the bitch" as I've seen many people boil it down too. but i think you realise it's not that simplistic.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 12:16 AM
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he could have done with a quantifier, but he's still right. some women definitely do use sex to manipulate.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 11:55 PM
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not all but enough, according to feminists.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 11:42 PM
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can i ask, who cares? why does it matter? what about when women cause their suffering?
/r/MensRights31/07/22 11:42 PM
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same goes the other way, but a ridiculous amount of women act entitles to sex.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 11:41 PM
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if she's not willing to put the effort in, what options? it's not like you can go to marriage counselling with an unwilling partner.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 05:12 PM
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selish is automatically assuming you're entitled to your sexual relationship when you have the right to stop sexual interactions.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 05:05 PM
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In addition to the discrete deaths the women also put up a much more dignified fight, that's a very good point i didn't even realise. people as powerful as x and fantastic are taken out in a heartbeat, but wanda has to spend like a full 10 minutes brawling with a super soldier? what happened to her reality warping? now you've pointed it out, that entire scene reeks of too much woke. bad woman who we're supposed to sympathise with fights good woman 1 and 2 after getting rid of the evil men. "what…
/r/MensRights31/07/22 03:54 PM
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i don't think dr strange 2 was the best example for OP's point (my mind also went to the disintegrated sorceress). but his point is undeniably there. men are killed ao much more and so much more brutally in film. and tbf, you could argue black bolt's death or fantastics was more brutal than the earlier disintegrations, of which we also saw happen to men.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 03:49 PM
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This is because most children live with their mothers after divorce. biased courts giving preferential custody. this could be fixed by making default 50/50 but note how feminists will never offer the solution of fixing custody after divorce. they want to keep that power over men, while getting more money because 'the patriarchy' leaves them poor after. they literally want more money just because. its these same people that make alimony completely unusable as a concept, because they'd abuse it. n…
/r/MensRights31/07/22 03:25 PM
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okay lol. i mean, i actually do worry about being ogled at by women, and if that's reason for women to get their own gyms, it's reason for men. and im sure men with trauma do have a legitimate concern with the other things. you should hope they don't read your comment. i could also just as easily doubt women's claims like that.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 02:53 PM
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yeah, i don't wanns be ogled at. don't wanna be harassed by women, particularly those who thought i was staring. don't wanna be stalked, attacked, murdered, drugged. so there's why i feel a need to go to a men's only gym. also because then, women don't need to worry about me ogling them. win-win for everyone.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 06:53 AM
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the smell of people exercising bothers me. am i now asexual?
/r/MensRights31/07/22 06:51 AM
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being thought of as creepy is a more serious issue than being raped and murdered? no, he's simply implying one is more common than the other.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 06:46 AM
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hell, shouldn't women be all for men only gyms? if men have their own private gym spaces, it means women won't be constantly stared at and sexually harassed in gyms (or like they claim it happnes constantly).
/r/MensRights31/07/22 06:43 AM
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let me tell you, being from a country without the dealth penalty... i already find it creepy how causally she refers to the execution. of course, that makes it 20x more gross when she starts complaining she can't be improperly dressed for said execution. someone is losing their life. have a shred of common decency and respect. seems like Americans agree her behaviour is exceedingly creepy here too. guarantee she would not have acted the same way at a woman's execution. but because she, like the …
/r/MensRights31/07/22 06:32 AM
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blood makes you. you make family. blood is meaningless if family don't treat you like family. find someone who's actually worthy of being your family, because your mother ain't it. you make your family, nothing decides for you who your family is.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 06:14 AM
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are you unfamiliar with the current makeup of SCOTUS? multiple women,decided on that vote to overturn.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 01:01 AM
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well, when it was just men, Roe v Wade was instituted. when women played a huge part in legislating their bodies too, Roe v Wade was overturned. weird. almost like the majority of pro-lifers are women or something.
/r/MensRights30/07/22 07:35 AM
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im from the UK, so maybe im biased, but abuse. literally all we ever hear about in the UK is female victims. and there was the recent adverts implying only women were victims of abuse. so yeah, I'd really like to see abuse spoken about more. particularly with female abusers. people need to start learning about the power dynamics. I thought of making this post after observing posts here about the 'no uterus no opinion' quote what they really mean here is 'no uterus no opinion' unless your opinion…
/r/MensRights30/07/22 06:25 AM
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hey, look what happened when women were playing a part in legislating women's bodies. do you know what happened when just men were legislating women's bodies?
/r/MensRights30/07/22 06:22 AM
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coming from a relatively anti-social guy even if it isn't shown, from my experience, anti-aocial dudes tend to appreciate small offerings. even if you don't invite him to hang out, there's tons of 'social' things you could do to help. someone else suggested you just send him a brief message reassuring him you're there if he wants someone to talk to. works great. whether he wants to hang out or not, if you can find something thst just demonstrates your concern for him, he'll probably appreciate i…
/r/MensRights30/07/22 06:07 AM
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There are females here expressing similar sentiments. What would you call them? pick-me traitors probably. honestly tragic how far kind discussion has devolved. now you can't even disagree without being accused of the dumbest shit.
/r/MensRights30/07/22 05:47 AM
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the amount of times I've seen pearl clutching and heard "misogyny kills" from feminists, you'd think there's a man waiting around every corner desperate to stab a woman just for being a woman. i think we're entitled to our moment to vent.
/r/MensRights30/07/22 05:39 AM
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it's funny because "men bad, they go die. haha". what a sad state for humour in modern times if this crosses the bar for comedy. genocide is not funny.
/r/MensRights30/07/22 05:37 AM
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alright, or you could just like, not defend the suggestion of killing men because "it's sarcasm". if i said Something horrible about women, you'd pass that off as sarcasm? reasonable people don't defend violent statements, even sarcastic.
/r/MensRights30/07/22 04:55 AM
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please tell me how it went! I'd be fascinated to hear.
/r/MensRights30/07/22 02:24 AM
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its what they claim to be fighting for.
/r/MensRights30/07/22 01:51 AM
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power dynamics are very interesting. we all know men are physically stronger, but in which ways do women have power. we need this explored more, or people will continue to ridicule male victims of female violence because "you're stronger", "she can't hurt you". people also need to understand how men's physical strength can become a disadvantage in power dynamics.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 09:53 PM
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Imagine trying to go the a store to buy some red bottom shoes with your man’s credit card, yeah, this says a lot about who has it worse.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 09:49 PM
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dismiss the statutory rape of boys as not being serious and saying such cases should not be prosecuted the way statutory rape of girls should be. of which, the easiesr way to point this out is Hermesmann v. Seyer.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 09:38 PM
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is it not? one person being dismissive of women's issues doesn't mean society isn't dismissive of mens. besides, most comments ITT are supporting of women's issues. don't cherrypick one example.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 09:32 PM
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welp, here's a ton of sources
/r/MensRights29/07/22 09:29 PM
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idk where you're looking to see his misogyny, considering he actively shut down sexism
/r/MensRights29/07/22 09:24 PM
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feminism hurts everyone. i don't get why this is so hard for people to understand. fit their narrative or they'll happily watch you burn in hell.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 09:14 PM
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we could generalise women in a lot of ways. would you still defend that because "generalisations don't come from nowhere"?
/r/MensRights29/07/22 01:15 PM
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tbf, we have no choice but to tolerate it. how long do you think a killallwomen tweet even stays up? but socia media says killallmen is perfectly acceptable.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 01:01 PM
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Ofcourse, it's always the system's fault all feminism believes in patriarchy, and blames patriarchy ('the system') for any suffering that men or women face.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 05:25 AM
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thanks for calling this shit out. there's another thing similar that bothers me, that so many women have randomly called me. i just find it creepy.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 05:17 AM
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Well, here's the real, valid evidence of feminism hurting men. now to wait for that evidence of the MRM hurting women.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 03:42 AM
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not 'real' feminists per se, but definitely good ones. I'd go as far as to say a sizeable portion of people are literally just self-proclaimed feminists because they believe in equality
/r/MensRights29/07/22 03:26 AM
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wait, you mean this isn't a gendered issue and women just pick shitty partners who they have to 'parent'? who could have seen that coming? shocking. if you have to do basic chores for your partner, you give them a chance to start doing it, and you dump then if they don't. otherwise, don't complain so your partner bring unable to do chores. most children can do shit like clean.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 07:20 AM
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if i hear "unemployed" I'd wonder how they're still supporting themselves and what they do with their time. I'd be sceptical, but intrigued to learn more. i wouldn't conflate it with laziness. I'd be unemployed if i could actually support myself without. to each their own i guess.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 07:11 AM
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oo, careful they don't hit you with the 'you invalidated my living experience' line. imagine saying "women ain't shit" in the workplace. you'd be lucky to keep your job, even if you were a woman.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 07:04 AM
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im not sure either, but i think the max GPA might be like a 4. 3.7 is definitely incredible. the guy should be proud.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 07:00 AM
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it's weird because it's not only justifying generalisations, but its quite disrespectful to the mentally challenged as well. of course people with mental illnesses could misunderstand your point as being all men. and then people are complete assholes who assume they intentionally 'invalidated their experiences'. you're right. just add a fucking quantifier. stop generalising men.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 06:54 AM
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man, gotta feel bad for male victims of female misandry. remember kids, blatant sexism only matters if its against women! apparently, for some reason. sexism is sexism.
/r/MensRights27/07/22 05:26 AM
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everyone is asking important questions like "what about miscarriages?". they're important things, but i have one better. what happens if women decide they want late abortions? so a man pays this child support, and then a woman goes off just to abort the child the guy was trying to support, maybe by travelling states. or even if women commit an unsafe abortion. surely he deserves some justice or reimbursement or something, supporting the child and then not even witnessing it's existence? enough g…
/r/MensRights27/07/22 05:22 AM
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i think about 48% of unplanned pregnancies are as a result of not using BC so... i didn't save the source but it's somewhere in my comment history if you're desperate for it. they also clearly aren't getting tubal litigations in masses considering all i ever hear about them is "woe is me, it's so hard to get sterilised" (which sucks btw, but is what it is).
/r/MensRights27/07/22 05:17 AM
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wait a moment. now you've got me thinking. all those people who call us incels as an insult...
/r/MensRights27/07/22 05:01 AM
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hope you're doing well now. there's certainly a sizeable portion of women out there who are completely unsympathetic to men because they can only see their own suffering. it grosses me out that in 2022 we still have to fight to have rape seen as a people issue and not a woman's issue.
/r/MensRights27/07/22 04:58 AM
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it honestly doesn't matter. my point was that men were not privileged because we have rights over our own bodies. we don't. , but as if that's bigger than all of women's issues, combined i could equality say "as if abortion illegalisation is bigger than all of men's issues" and use that as a reason to be dismissive of women's issues. i choose not to. Even the draft because women can get drafted too if it got bad enough. are you a part of the first draft? do you think Ukraine is drafting all the …
/r/MensRights26/07/22 05:33 PM
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actually, the same does happen to a lot of men with vasectomies. your husband got lucky.
/r/MensRights26/07/22 12:24 PM
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r/Intactivism has tons of info. but really, all you need is the fact it adds to the count of infant deaths. weird to me, in the UK the law states that fully functioning adults cannot consent to GBH (extreme kinks like branding). it is a crime. however, they have no problem letting infants be mutilated for religion without their consent.
/r/MensRights26/07/22 06:22 AM
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culture. europeans generally do not think it looks better. weirdly, we also don't mutilate most boys at birth.
/r/MensRights26/07/22 06:18 AM
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what do you think about the women who want to get/are proud of their clitoridectomies?
/r/MensRights26/07/22 06:17 AM
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how about we instead say checkmate you get the vasectomy the response to this is: how about we instead say checkmate you get the tubal litigation. yeah, yeah, whatever, there's slight differences between the procedures. tstill equally as valid. now, I'd prefer not to go around telling women to get tubal litigations all the time. I'd rather not push for frequent sterilisation. However, i will absolutely say it in a response to these dumbasses who started with the vasectomy.
/r/MensRights26/07/22 05:26 AM
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reality manipulation alone is enough, if you know she's coming. if it's not a planned fight, her invisibility would alloe her to get the jump with a sneak attack. it's basically batman with/without prep time vs scarlet witch. in a straight fight, you. in a surprise ambush, your daughter. right, enough fun. im back to serious topics. if you read this, have a good day!
/r/MensRights26/07/22 02:12 AM
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way to make a victim feel like he doesn't matter! man, and i thought women hated when men go up to rape victims and say "but what about all the men who are raped?". and you should educate yourself on what whataboutism actually is. whataboutism can be fact, but it doesn't stop being whataboutism.
/r/MensRights26/07/22 01:52 AM
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How the fuck did he put up with that? cuz he thought it was normal. disgusting how much society and feminism failed him.
/r/MensRights26/07/22 01:45 AM
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are you kidding me? have you looked up misandry on tiktok? just another social media site that hates men and lets women get away with whatever.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 06:55 PM
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ignorant? huh? you seem to think men have no meaningful issues. i know women have issues, and the overturning of RvW is the most recent one. Women cant breast feed in public without toxic misogyny or even from toxic women you mean women cause women's issues? apparently i shouldn't care about those ones. but yes, this is actually a valid issue. Women who aren't attractive (or fat) are viewed as less valuable, this one isn't gender specific, though a woman's value is placed more on beauty than a m…
/r/MensRights25/07/22 06:51 PM
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yeah, because we've always been able to choose what happens to our penises, huh? the only reason you think men don't have rights over their bodies is because "rights over my own body" is typically only associated with pregnancy. if you look at the bigger picture...
/r/MensRights25/07/22 06:10 PM
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You guys: omg it's so unfair we pay more money than women! as far as im concerned, no one has said this. stop twisting what you've been told. "The average teenage male driver pays approximately 14% more for car insurance than does a teen female driver, reflecting the risk exhibited by young male drivers." wait, you mean men pay more which is on direct contradiction of the idea women pay more?
/r/MensRights25/07/22 04:18 PM
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i think you're the one who doesn't care about context. i directly said that the reason men are paying more is probably not as a result of gender and sexism. also, men do not men cause all of our issues.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 04:16 PM
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there's also plenty of women who are pro-life who im sure would love to have this option. and women who might choose to to carry the child to term for the father despite not wanting to raise it. a lot of people argue against this because "it only helps men". it does not, people are just too blind to the truth to see it help women.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 04:08 PM
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draft? genital mutilation? disproportionate homeless and suicidexrates? what issues do women need rioting for again?
/r/MensRights25/07/22 04:04 PM
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well, good job im not misogynistic and never blame the individual woman. i can make the distinction between radical feminist. and i still don't like feminism because of patriarchy theory.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 04:03 PM
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hey, if you have nothing nice to say, don't say it at all. but I'd love to hear how men have rights over their bodies. we don't. wityxthe overturning of RvW, neither do american women.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 04:02 PM
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man, you got a suicide fetish or something? it's alright, you think you'll get under people's skin. you won't. is this really the best thing you can do with your time? you don't realise how pathetic you really are.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 06:52 AM
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curious why Men's Rights activists aren't proposing equality in the form of 'abortion' for men: cuz we definitely do. just can't make a change when everyone just cries "that's different, misogynist". related: ever heard of Hermesmann v. Seyer? that'll make you feel sick.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 06:31 AM
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i did forget about the incel comment, kinda tune comments with incel out these days. my mind was drawn much more to the "women couldn't vote, blah blah blah" comment.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 06:29 AM
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The proper word you are looking for is abandonment which men gladly already do. hell yeah, if i did everything reasonable to prevent pregnancy, or they sabotaged my contraceptives, or i was raped, I'd love to abandon the child i didn't want. just let me do it legally. women already can.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 06:28 AM
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they didn't so much attack, but they definitely went out of their way to prove women were less privileged (using outdated examples ofc), despite saying they agree with the original commentor.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 06:26 AM
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well then, making this post was a terrible idea, because you directly asked who had it worse. a lot of people don't want to prove they're less privileged, but if you ask someone, they're going to say they have it worse.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 06:23 AM
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r u even interested in learning about make suffering, or do you just want to preach about how hard women have it? if it's the latter, please go preach in a feminist sub. Only 100 years ago women werent allowed to vote only started to show in this last decades only 0 years ago men stopped being drafted. literally happening in Ukraine. being drafted has been a uniquely male issue literally throughout all of history.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 06:21 AM
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patriarchy is the problem with feminism. the MRM don't have an equivalent. they are incomparable. also, how does male disposability = incel?
/r/MensRights25/07/22 06:17 AM
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wanting nothing to do with someone isn't the same as not wanting to be dependent on them. when we grow up, we don't want to be dependent on our parents, you're right. but you missed that most of us don't feel as if we want nothing to do with our parents. we still want them in our lives. the racial comparison is weird because people of different skin tones aren't reliant on each other like men and women are. and to be honest, it would still be dumb for black people to say "i don't want nothing to…
/r/MensRights25/07/22 06:14 AM
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are we just going to ignore that there's a lot of states there where a man pays more? are we also ignoring the much larger gap when men pay more? Delaware: men ($1,673), women($1,615) -3.49% District of Columbia: men ($1,464), women($1,427) -2.53% Florida: men($2,408), women($2,324) -3.52% Washington: men($1,267), women ($1,209), -4.59% that's just some examples of course. a lot of states have a gap disadvantaging men. meanwhile a lot of women's gaps tend to be less than 1%. so yeah, im starting…
/r/MensRights25/07/22 04:23 AM
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fuck that, it's like lowering military standards. you are quite literally putting people's lives at risk to protect someone's feelings. i can see no reason women would be failing their tests more apart from putting in the effort. Males are also statistically much more likely to be hurt or killed in crashes. and the solution to this wouldn't be to lower female standards. this has 0 relevancy to their point. the solution they're looking for would be to raise male standards, but that's a poor solut…
/r/MensRights25/07/22 04:14 AM
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patriarchy means whatever the hell feminists want it to mean.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 02:28 AM
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yeah, there's plenty of women around, you wouldn't have to look far to find their perspectives. here's a post from a woman about some things
/r/MensRights24/07/22 06:43 AM
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seems like it's dependent on location.
/r/MensRights24/07/22 06:39 AM
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Apparently there is a male birth control pill in the works that is non-hormonal. If that came available would you be willing to take it? honestly, idk. i might. but i also might just get a vasectomy myself and face the risk of irreversibility - could always freeze some sperm. it would be great to be able to consider a choice other than condoms or sterilisation though, something that i think often gets taken for granted, so i hope that pill releases. probably depends on how severe side effects wo…
/r/MensRights24/07/22 06:31 AM
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I'd actually like to see a source on this. I've often wondered about which gender is more likely to sabotage contraception. would be great to have a source to refer to in the future. this is not me doubting the claim. im just curious about a source.
/r/MensRights24/07/22 05:16 AM
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.. condoms are birth control for men. They go on dicks. most men know how condoms work. also, female condoms. but yes, more needed options is the better point to discuss. I won't get into a debate here because there's clearly no point, poor mindset. I've had some wonderful discussions with feminists, and they definitely would not have happened if i just assumed there wasn't a point. but if you really think there's no point, why come to this post in the first place? why comment anything? why say …
/r/MensRights24/07/22 05:14 AM
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I'm sure I'm wasting my time writing this but bad mindset to start your comment, especially considering your upvotes, which prove you wrong. and you should be upvoted because you made some good points, i just don't like the attitude with it. we aren't unreasonable incels who hate you, even though we're villified as such. or they put it on and stealth the gir and equally, plenty of women steal sperm from it afterwards, or sabotage it pre-emptively. all it takes is for you to be away from the cond…
/r/MensRights24/07/22 05:08 AM
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Women don’t have a barrier method of protection, i mean, you definitely do. but you are right. BC sucks for everyone still to be fair. condoms can hamper sensation and are one of the least effective methods. BC pills give side effects and insertions cause pain.
/r/MensRights24/07/22 04:51 AM
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probably typical stuff. "side effects suck". "an IUD hurts". "condoms aren't effective". no idea what the excuse for plan B would have been. for me, none of the typical reasons are invalid per se, but i don't find they carry much weight when women at least have choices in what they want to take on for contraception. doesn't abortion carry it's own health risks anyway? so you're not avoiding anything by using abortion as a contraceptive.
/r/MensRights24/07/22 04:48 AM
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it's still a damn option. the emphasis for BC shouldn't just be on the guy. especially a guy you don't trust.
/r/MensRights24/07/22 04:43 AM
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that's an interesting point i didn't think of. they make sure to teach us about all methods of contraception, including the 'rhythm' here (UK). cultural differences are a pain in the ass. America needs to get more on its game with sex ed i guess.
/r/MensRights24/07/22 04:41 AM
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yeah, i can understand it too. that's why men have been asking for the past couple decades to have more ownership over BC.
/r/MensRights24/07/22 04:38 AM
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or just use your own condom. there are literally condoms designed for female use that people ignore.
/r/MensRights24/07/22 04:37 AM
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as UK men, i know one of my friends have. this poster must feel so invalidating towards victims of female hate, and yet people wonder why men don't speak up/report/get help. shit like this and the staring make me glad i don't live in London at least.
/r/MensRights23/07/22 05:51 PM
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Women don't get paid as much as men. an earnings gap, not a pay gap as feminists misrepresent. Women and men are raped regularly with hardly any reprocusions vaid, but... what would your solution for this be? im not down to chance punishing innocent people based off an accusation. especially as false accusations become more prevalent. i don't know what the other guy is on about. yes, a lot of male rapists face some form of comeuppance (public shaming e.t.c), but there's also many, many rapists w…
/r/MensRights23/07/22 05:40 PM
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real world applications like this?
/r/MensRights23/07/22 05:23 PM
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that these are their experiences based on the people and women around them apart from all the statistics and studies.
/r/MensRights23/07/22 05:19 PM
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you're right. patriarchy theory sucks, MR is just a group of incel woman haters, and whatever. sometimes, you just have to accept difference and accept you don't have to be mutually exclusive on an individual level, even if you don't like certain things.
/r/MensRights23/07/22 05:15 PM
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ALWAYS wear your OWN condoms that YOU supply keep a close eye on them too.
/r/MensRights23/07/22 03:46 PM
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blaming feminism is blaming women now?. feminism thrives off fear. you'd have to be blind to miss their blatant fear-mongering for both men and women.
/r/MensRights23/07/22 03:44 PM
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hold up, what's with the hornets? that sounds interesting. also surprised to see Technoblade's passing reaching this far TBH. i knew he was influential but, idk, i guess i just figured it would be more contained. may he rest peacefully.
/r/MensRights23/07/22 05:41 AM
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yeah, all women are crazy, volatile and unpredictable. i suppose like all men are demonic, abusive, and rapists right? yeah, of course not. we all know feminists who say that vile shit about all men are braindead. we should be, need to be, better than trashy behaviour like that. not all of a particular group are bad. if you genuinely believe a specific group (men, women, black e.t.c), comsider therapy.
/r/MensRights23/07/22 05:31 AM
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what, you mean these comments that have clearly been defending women from misogyny? sure, keep pretending this sub is evil.
/r/MensRights23/07/22 04:53 AM
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So, if you're going to judge the feminist movement by a few people who claim to speak for it, you shouldn't be so shocked when random people you meet laugh and call you an incel you treat it as if my only problem is with representatives. that's just one of the issues i listed with feminism, but you clearly don't even care about what im saying, so whatever. those people don't really represent men's rights. they represent us a hell of a lot better than any individual without any credibility or fam…
/r/MensRights23/07/22 04:32 AM
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oh, of course, anyone who is sane knows the precedent by Hermesmann v. Seyer isn't okay. but until the precedent has been truly abolished, in fact - until law has been written outlawing child support in circumstances of rape, men will not be safe.
/r/MensRights22/07/22 04:53 PM
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it may technically be only binding in Kansas (im not aware of all the small technicalities either), but that won't stop other states from following the precedent, to which many have. it just means they can't be forced to obey the precedent if they disagree.
/r/MensRights22/07/22 04:44 PM
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I'm afraid of feminists attacking me and I realize I wont be going back to the subs I was in now definitely not, by interacting with us you've become the 'enemy'. a female traitor like ACB just because you don't agree with them. sorry not everyone has welcomed you so warmly. people here are frustrated and sceptical, but that's no excuse for poor behaviour against someone.
/r/MensRights22/07/22 02:45 PM
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There are none, because we don’t have representatives. If we did, you can bet there would be some just like her. Karen Straughan, Warren Farell, Erin pizzey. we have representatives. we don't have any celebrating the deaths of women and claiming misogyny isn't real. You could really use this argument to denounce any movement. but im not using the argument 'individual feminist members are the problem with feminism' like you pretend. im using the argument that patriarchy + representatives is the p…
/r/MensRights22/07/22 01:29 PM
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because they think misogyny is more common than misandry. also because people try to argue it can't be sexist (only discriminatory) because men have power and privilege. that's not true, and it's actually just a way to disguise/justify their own bigotry. and that logic is completely grounded in ignorance anyway, because women have plenty of privileges.
/r/MensRights22/07/22 04:33 AM
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if your reason is specifically because it's male, how could it not be?
/r/MensRights22/07/22 04:25 AM
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or there's just all feminism which believes in 'patriarchy'.
/r/MensRights22/07/22 04:24 AM
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and you're out there doing the rioting for men too?
/r/MensRights22/07/22 04:22 AM
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Women don't have rights over their own bodies, wait, since when did men have this one? definitely not a privilege over women.
/r/MensRights22/07/22 04:19 AM
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something that's easily memorable and easily explainable is arranged marriages. what feminists actively portray as a woman's issue, do you think every guy is happy with his arranged marriage?
/r/MensRights22/07/22 03:24 AM
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she's a feminist writer, who straight up said Covid wasn't killing men fast enough. and she strikes me as a feminist representative much more than some random guy like you on the internet. but it's fine, i could come up with a ton more examples if you'd need. so again, i ask, point me to a single MRA representative who is openly misogynistic and hateful towards women. also, downvoting people just because they disagree with you? real mature.
/r/MensRights22/07/22 02:54 AM
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and I'd agree, but she's not just any random feminist from an online forum, and she's not any random dumbass radical. i don't particularly like the generalisations and stuff that comes from this sub, but at least they aren't representing us.
/r/MensRights22/07/22 02:48 AM
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It is irrelevant in the same way that random dudes hating women is irrelevant to the MRA movement. point me to a single MRA representative who behaves in a manner similar to Clementine Ford.
/r/MensRights22/07/22 02:43 AM
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feminism is a choice. homosexuality is not.
/r/MensRights22/07/22 02:39 AM
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i mean like, I've held the door for women, in the real world, and gotten shit for it. so yes, it happens, rendering your statement untrue.
/r/MensRights22/07/22 02:35 AM
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well you’ve all spent enough time making it as clear as humanly possible you don’t well no, the problem is, they do need us. they just don't want us. well if they need us, they better start wanting us.
/r/MensRights22/07/22 02:32 AM
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she's not asking men to risk rheir reputation by opening doors dude. she's literally just saying she thinks it's sweet. she said nothing about how you should continue to hold doors open. she literally said these kinds of women are the reason normal women can't have nice things.
/r/MensRights22/07/22 02:11 AM
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hey, for those so used to everything pandering to them, one thing pandering to others often feels like being ignored.
/r/MensRights22/07/22 01:57 AM
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No woman really gets angry when a man holds a door. well, i can tell you that's just an incorrect statement.
/r/MensRights22/07/22 01:56 AM
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paternal fraud is as simple as lying about the real father/being unsure and just picking a potential father at random (if you sleep with multiple people and don't bother to find out the real father/pretend like you've only slept with one person). it commonly happens as a result of cheating and being unwilling to confess. the outcome of which is often a man raising a child that isn't biologically his. many people do it because they want their boyfriend/husband to raise the child. that will work f…
/r/MensRights21/07/22 10:30 PM
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don't get me wrong, im glad its on facepalm. but the fact its still not taken seriously by the law is a big deal, and that's the reason we need to keep talking about it, and making an example of anyone who defends/supports this behaviour. it's especially important to talk about when people keep telling us to stop blaming women and that women aren't the problem, they aren't causing our issues E.T.C. its not solely about blaming and hating women. women don't cause all men's issues, but they defini…
/r/MensRights21/07/22 11:11 AM
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the fact the statement was even made to begin with. the fact paternal fraud still isn't taken seriously. the fact multiple people in the comments are defending it by referring to 'context' as if that makes what she said better. the fact if you expected women to just get over cheating and support another woman's baby, you'd be laughed out of the room. i could keep going?
/r/MensRights21/07/22 05:37 AM
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how could you ever do it unknowingly? if you slept with multiple people, you know there's a chance it's a different father.
/r/MensRights21/07/22 05:33 AM
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Stop acting like a victim. funny coming from a twox'er. Any man can request a DNA test if he is questioning paternity and the aforementioned man will recieve Tons of hate for it. not to mention the legality in france
/r/MensRights21/07/22 05:24 AM
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i mean, at least they can't be deceived into raising a child that isn't theirs which they believed was theirs.
/r/MensRights21/07/22 05:20 AM
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ah, thank god. you'd be amazed at the amount of crazies running around using logic against child support but not applying the same logic to pregnancy. i may not agree with your pro-life stance, but i definitely respect the fact that you're consistent in your beliefs.
/r/MensRights21/07/22 12:54 AM
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just saying - not all men want children either, especially not adopted children.
/r/MensRights21/07/22 12:51 AM
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if you're never been a victim of parental fraud... oh wait, women can't be. NVM.
/r/MensRights21/07/22 12:49 AM
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ah, good, so you agree abortions laws should be a bit stricter then? (only in cases of rape, health risks e.t.c).
/r/MensRights21/07/22 12:44 AM
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If a man wants zero responsibility to a child he needs to get a vasectomy, & get it checked regularly to make sure it’s still working as it should. if a woman wants zero responsibility, she needs to get her tubes tied. It’s BS to force a kid to live without resources from the person who is have of the make up of said kid. it's also BS to abort a kid you didn't want just because you didn't use protection.
/r/MensRights21/07/22 12:42 AM
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she can't use condoms or say no to sex?
/r/MensRights21/07/22 12:39 AM
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i mean, in this example, the two who made the baby are not the two they're implying should be the one to foot the bill.
/r/MensRights21/07/22 12:35 AM
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You guys need to talk to actual women we do. they just aren't the kind of women you guys like. Toxic masculinity is a societal problem, it’s not saying that men existing is inherently toxic. Men are regularly victims of toxic masculinity. and i know what toxic masculinity is. im just tired of blaming every little thing on it. not everything is toxic masculinity. imagine blaming all of women's issues on toxic femininity?
/r/MensRights20/07/22 09:11 PM
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yes, because absolutely everything is toxic masculinity and patriarchy.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 05:24 PM
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Confirmation you have never stepped foot on a construction site of any kind. "your mom". honestly, that immaturity gives me extreme doubt they've even stepped foot in a workplace before.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 03:57 PM
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Should assaulting a pregnant woman also be considered child abuse? in many places it's already considered double homicide to kill a pregnant woman. even in countries where abortion is legal.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 06:15 AM
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an extraordinary amount of men have been sexually harassed by women in the workplace, especially when they enter female-dominated fields. this is not an issue unique to women. take up harsher, more labour-intensive jobs, or don't expect the easier top jobs to be handed to you (end affirmative action).
/r/MensRights20/07/22 06:09 AM
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men are often considered too strong for childcare. how is that a women's rights issue?
/r/MensRights20/07/22 06:07 AM
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when you have a society that is built by men for men, you don't see men getting multated at birth and treated like they're disposable.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 06:04 AM
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from my understanding, quotas to get 'minorities', particularly women into positions in which they are massively underrepresented. i don't see any affirmative action for men and teaching. affirmative action only comes into play for high jobs like CEO's and politicians.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 06:02 AM
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because he jumped the gun and started arguing immediately. i think you explained your side just fine. i think the other guy just had no room for anything that wasn't 100% agreement with his and his beliefs, which is why he jumped the gun. he didn't stop to think about what you actually said, or he wouldn't have argued. to me, that implies he doesn't care about other people's opinions unless they validate his own. like, i don't agree with everything you said, but i was still very quickly able to …
/r/MensRights20/07/22 12:50 AM
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Mainly because I think I didn’t do a good enough job making my stance clear on what I believe, make no mistake OP. you made your stance abundantly clear. 20% pro-choice. women need to be held more accountable for getting pregnant. no part of that conversation (at least from our POV) implied you wanted a flat all-out ban on abortion in every circumstance. you demanded accountability, you never mentioned cases of rape, or if a child would be born with a disability, or if there are health concerns …
/r/MensRights19/07/22 11:19 PM
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shoulda mentioned this in my response but specific as possible when talking about feminism(like maybe what kind) all kinds.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 09:44 PM
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trans individuals are a good segway into exposing men's stories about the male experience though. women are simply more likely to listen to a woman (or someone who used to be a woman). for some women, listening to men about their issues just becomes "you don't know how bad we have it. you wouldn't understand".
/r/MensRights19/07/22 06:20 PM
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i do respect people who don't keep their guards up at all too. there's only 2 'right' ways to go about it you guard for everyone or for no one. anything else is discriminatory. i do think you're playing a very dangerous game by not having any 'guard' but it's your choice. maybe saying it's stupid not doing so was the wrong word, but i do think it's taking an unnecessary risk. im starting to think sexist people make seixst people, to one extent you're right, to another you're wrong. I suspect tha…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:51 PM
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adding a bit of raw truth and healing into the mix of male/female discourse. this is exactly why i put so much emphasis on trans perspectives (even though i still haven't properly learned pronouning, awkward,). there's issues on both sides, in little ways, and i think trans individuals help to expose them. sure, their perspective may be a little skewed, they may have been raised 'brainwashed', or their experiences as a woman have already shaped their opinions, but they don't need to be perfect. …
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:18 PM
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i get some insight. i think there's insight to garner from the huge culture shock most people go through when transitioning. the aspect of 'male loneliness' in particular, which is something not typically focused on, but is likely a huge contributor to men's mental health. ofc, another thing feminists overlook. i also think when enough trans people have been saying "my accomplishments as a woman in the workplace were often undervalued", i start to think there may be some legitimacy about it. som…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:13 PM
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i mean im sure their intentions aren't to hurt men but to just protect themselves. i mean, sure, it may not be intentional, but it still blows. and then when men start to struggle with mental health because of the overwhelming sensation of loneliness, we're called incels and our suicide rates dismissed because 'women attempt more, stop complaining". no sympathy for men. my problem with your idea is that it doesn't matter who the victim is. do you think most women would take issue with me putting…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 01:59 PM
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what's the one with the gay male couple? brokeback mountain? i haven't seen the film personally, but I'd imagine there'd be something good in there about men, considering the focus is on men. could be worth a look. im also guessing most films listed will be older films, as the movie induatry has largely moved away from male role models in recent years. so, to a lesser extent, let me provide something more recent. I'd consider some marvel content. i know it's never their main focus (and sometimes…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 05:08 AM
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just a shame people never listen to the trans individuals about sexism. they have a lot of fascinating insights to offer. people just cling onto their victimhood too hard i guess.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 04:53 AM
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Are men any less worthy of help if they were a minority among the abused? yep, apparently men are. at least to a large portion of crazy people. apparently they're also unworthy of help when they're the majority of victims as well (suicide).
/r/MensRights19/07/22 04:51 AM
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i think they're about 70% of infanticide offenders IIRC.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 04:44 AM
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That's exactly what women have been trying to do, encourage men to be more active participants I their children's lives so I'm not sure what ypu mean by that. the national organisation of women (NOW) opposed shared custody laws. I've seen countless individual women argue against fathers taking a more involved role. whenever men enter childcare positions, they're automatically assumed to be a danger to the children, being seen as pedophiles. when you say women have been trying to do that, i think…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 04:40 AM
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women are the primary caretakers if the next generation and the community is trying to create a safe space for women and children to escape abusive partners? then surely a good way to go about this would be to break down gender stereotyping of men being providers and instead intice them to be caregivers. but i only ever hear about the women. Men are far less likely to be single fathers i always hear about how hard it is to be a single mother, but i never hear anyone trying to change the rate of …
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:40 AM
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Are you trying to imply women don't vorntibute to society whatsoever and there will be no possibly progression while women are treated as humans? no, im trying to imply that while women have rights, there's been no contribution or progression for men's equality. especially not from feminism. now RvW has beeb overturned, many people are hoping society will realise a further need for men's reproductive rights too. something that was very clearly not being realised for the 5 decades women had abort…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:35 AM
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they're still killing men because they're men. and as i said, im sure there's plenty of examples of disgusting women grouping and hunting men. they just don't make the news like crimes against women. not every complaint i have is as a result of the 'system". Women aren't creating entire society's that oppress men amd limit their bodily autonomy or human rights. while this may be true, women have way too much control over men's bodily autonomy when they're born. and men are still living in a soci…
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:25 AM
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that sucks, and i hope you're doing better. unfortunately, about 90% of DV support is dedciated towards women, despite the masses of men who are also victims. I've also heard of plenty of men who remained victims for years because of gender stereotyping as strong, which for some reason meant they couldn't be abused. gender stereotypes are disgusting.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 03:20 AM
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have you seen the gendered way we care for victims?
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:36 AM
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there isn't any female groups hunting down and slaughtering men out of sexism either. I none that have made news as big topics. but there is plenty of stuff like this
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:35 AM
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did you see any progress being made while women had rights? besides, anti-feminism doesn't mean being against women's rights and restricting them. its about being against shit like this, and is well explained by this
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:30 AM
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even factoring in the points you bring up, men would outnumber women in homelessness rates. and that's even without factoring all the men who avoid shelters E.T.C.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 02:17 AM
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I have taking pictures and intend to move them to a safe location in case they’re needed as evidence in court. smart man. that I am her best and most consistent support system that weirds me out. almost as if she doesn't view you as a person, just a thing to support her. be careful. seriously though, i hope things get been for you. just know to get out when you know you need to get out, you know?
/r/MensRights18/07/22 11:53 PM
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women aren't the cause of all our misery. women like you are.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 11:51 PM
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her mental,health is not your responsibility Trust me. you'll torture yourself if you treat it like it is.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 06:17 PM
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okay, so women have to carry babies and they get a say. men are stronger so have to fight the wars... and don't get a say?
/r/MensRights18/07/22 05:44 AM
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we need em? we don't need em? doesn't matter. it's abolishment or gender neutral. anything else is blatantly sexist. also, pregnancy is already made fair by the fact men get basically 0 say in it. also, a feminist once told me the law aims to make things as equal as possible. guess she was full of shit.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 05:37 AM
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i can't really get behind the philosopher definitition either because i think it's pretty arguable that in a mjaority of circumstances, the series of systems results in a net negative for men. and when the vast majority of your movement is using a silly outdated definition of 'patriarchy' and genuinely arguing that it somehow exists and actively works to build a society "made by men for men" by "enslaving/oppressing women", you have a problem. still, all the same, i tire of hearing the same shit…
/r/MensRights18/07/22 05:20 AM
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huh, and here i was listening to feminists tell me about how misandry isn't serious and misogyny kills. i guess misandry kills too. who would've possibly known?
/r/MensRights18/07/22 02:00 AM
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The thing to remember though is that bad feminists giving feminism you are right about all this last paragraph. it's why i distance the feminist from feminism. but i also get it. we see the 'untrue' feminists so much, but their actions are downplayed and sidelined. "kill all men? they're just joking, don't overreact", and shit like that. when individual MRA's are being pricks through misogyny or racism or whatever, it's used to villify the entire movement and make all MRA's look bad. especially …
/r/MensRights18/07/22 01:19 AM
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did you ever read the boy in the striped pajamas? it's a book about auschwitz that always stuck with me, particularly John Boyne's (the author) closing thoughts. Of course, all of this happened a long time ago and nothing like that could ever happen again. Not in this day and age that stuck with me. and i always wonder if society is on the verge of another rise like Hitlers. the only question for me is, which group would be the one targeted? anyway, i respect your kindness.
/r/MensRights18/07/22 12:54 AM
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Feminists don't like this stereotype, encourage fathers to take a greater role they don't? as far as im aware, feminism isn't a monolith, and Ives seen plenty of feminists who are just fine with women being providers and caregivers, because "there's no need for a man anymore". i think what you meant to say was that you, and the feminists you know don't like that stereotype and encourage more involved fathers. but, i do appreciate that about you regardless. Maybe if you guys stopped moaning about…
/r/MensRights17/07/22 07:14 PM
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i don't like that either. i didn't agree with everything she said, but she did make some good points.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 07:04 PM
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I've criticised some bad takes before and never been banned. i think the only time I've seen someone get banned from this sub is for extreme, obvious misogyny, and maybe one or two misandrists. but the fact I've seen people get banned from feminist subs is what makes me so opposed to feminism (the movement). i always try to avoid putting the blame on an individual feminist, because some of you are legitimately doing what you believe in.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 06:58 PM
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surely it would then be fair to give biased custody towards the father after infancy then, so he has the extra time to connect and develop his relationship to the kids he couldn't have when they were younger?
/r/MensRights17/07/22 06:51 PM
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the majority of feminists aren't saying KAM. but the majority of feminists are saying it's patriarchy's fault.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 06:43 PM
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the majority of feminists aren't saying KAM. but the majority of feminists are saying it's patriarchy's fault.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 06:42 PM
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This just seems like you want to seem women suffer out of spite. watch how you're talking. I've made very clear multiple i fully support women's access to abortions. and i would happily see them regain country wide access in America. Im just saying, we need to start thinking about the impact of children and unwilling fathers, which no one seems to be willing to do while abortions are wide-spread. and when i see people use the same dumb shit to argue why people should pay child support, but then …
/r/MensRights17/07/22 05:24 PM
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You can work it out, I have faith. You're a king victim has no empathy whilst demanding it. see, I'd argue you're just being rude now. i hope to god you don't think "assess your bias' is condescending, as that's what you said to me. that would leave the other thing to be assuming you downvoted and pointing out the coincidence. i hardly think that's 'patronising superiority' considering i backtracked and juat acknowledged maybe you didn't. i also never demanded empathy, i just agreed it should go…
/r/MensRights17/07/22 05:13 PM
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what's the condescending part? assess your bias? weird.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 04:51 PM
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maybe you didn't, i don't know you, it just seems coincidental that in 10 minutes someone had seen and didn't like my response? still waiting on how else i should interpret "your not important life issues". or maybe you should assess your bias?
/r/MensRights17/07/22 04:36 PM
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there's no bias when you downplay issues and downvote anyone who disagrees with you. what else was i supposed to interpret from "your not important life issues".
/r/MensRights17/07/22 04:31 PM
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If a man really doesn’t want a child, he can go get a vasectomy. Doctors will often refuse women to get tubes tied or hysterectomy if they deem they are too young, they want permission from the husband, etc. women get refused ALLLL the time. this happens to vasectomies too. Rape men still have to pay child support when raped dangerous pregnancies valid need for abortion just simply not wanting a baby while men can't just avoid not wanting a baby, women can't either. use birth control/contracepti…
/r/MensRights17/07/22 04:27 PM
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the inverse happens with feminism, but we're told we should just ignore it
/r/MensRights17/07/22 04:21 PM
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This isn't how you win soppurt FYI. This is the behaviour which ruins images. Not wins hearts. neither is talking about "your not important life issues". i was open-minded towards you at first, but im very quickly growing more sceptical. it's one thing to state how we need to have each other's backs and work together. but that comes with the expectation of actually doing it from both sides.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 04:19 PM
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clementine (TWD) Ellie (the last of us) alyx (half life) glados (portal) - great villain. aerith (final fantasy 7) max/chloe/alex (life is strange series) zoey (left 4 dead) could go on for a while
/r/MensRights17/07/22 03:45 PM
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ah, i was also going to ask about all these gender quotas and schemes i keep hearing about. oh, wait, guess they only exist for women. who could have seen that coming?
/r/MensRights17/07/22 07:12 AM
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definitely got the feeling i was supposed to root for reva, even all the way back in episode 1. and a feeling the show should have been named "the third sister". the only time i slightly cared was when moses crushed her acting in episode 6. and even then it was slight. at least the show still had some good moments.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 07:09 AM
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hermoine (harry potter) -okay, tbf, movie hermoine was a little ridiculous at times. but book Hermione was perfect. hera (star wars) ahsoka (star wars) Jyn (star wars) - noticing a theme here Elizabeth Swann (POTC) Ripley (alien) black widow (MCU) Marge (simpsons movie) basically any disney princess Amber Heard (JD trial documentary). she was such a good villain, god i hated her so much. oh wait, that isn't a film. yet... Honestly, we could probably go on forever naming good female characters. a…
/r/MensRights17/07/22 07:06 AM
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you don't see these people complaining about Ellen Ripley or Princess Leia.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 06:56 AM
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and then comes the question of how many of those women used birth control?
/r/MensRights16/07/22 10:28 PM
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not neccasarily 'wrong'. just wrong to me. i can't answer em.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 10:25 PM
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nothing has been repeated and you're asking the wrong questions to the wrong person. i just quoted OP and said the things she was talking about also happened in reverse.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 10:21 PM
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it's definitely the strength discrepancy that caused men to be more 'violent', because women know they're less likely to be successful. instead, they do find other ways to operate, because they can't just rely on strength. it's disgusting what some people are willing to do to make others hurt. men make up the majority of homicides too, and it doesn't matter that men are also the ones doing the killing. on top of falling victim to the most physical abuse (and i suspect verbal too), even though wo…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 08:44 PM
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earnings gap. pay gap has been illegal since like 1970. i know it's semantics, but there's a huge difference, and it matters to get it right.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 08:26 PM
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your domestic violence point is a bit iffy. this is worth a read. but i always like referring to the culture around women taking the husband's last name. it's simple, and while it is fading, it's currently inarguable. women suffer too, can't turn a blind eye.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 08:20 PM
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Men have a fair few in equalities. But unfortunately this apears to be giving some men motivation to try to take womans rights or create new forms of abuse towards woman online. Which in turn will encourage woman to take advantage of men more where they can, because of their feelings of being mistreated. and vice versa OFC.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 08:13 PM
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wouldn't there be a 6th for just "misandrist and proud"?
/r/MensRights16/07/22 08:11 PM
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god, does no one know what the word arguably means. and idk, you ever been coercee into sex and spent months feeling guilty you didn't do anything?
/r/MensRights16/07/22 08:07 PM
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Well... we addressed it by saying shit like vaccinations is done for the medical benefit of not only you, but others too. your counter was that circumcision reduces STD's, and so should be treated like vaccinations. for medical benefits, it doesn't matter if you consent. to which my response was that any medical benefits were bs made up as propoganda so people could harvest more foreskins for profits. to which you then completely dodged the point and redirected the conversation to something else…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 07:04 AM
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Nice dodging. i don't have anything against your dick, nor any circumcised cock. i just care its being done to babies who can't consent and then covered up by faux medical benefits. im all for people who want to do any kind of weird procedure when they're an adult.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 06:59 AM
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i don't doubt you're hear to learn! is this a way of you saying you don’t think a transgender man should have mens rights? i see how you were just trying to question, and i don't think you're too far off the mark here, but slight rephrasing. it sounds like you already decided he doesn't think they should have mens rights. it would be better phrased to be something like "im curious, do you think trans men should have men's rights or no?". I genuinely did not know this group didn’t accept trans me…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 06:56 AM
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oh, you know, i mean like in the accusatory tone and stuff. i just didn't wanna repeat myself. not neccasarily intentional, but im sure you could see how It'd cause a disconnect between you and the people you want to learn from.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 06:47 AM
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all your alleged health benefits are bullshit anyway. so, vaccinations? for herd immunity. circumcision? to decrease sexual pleasure and make face creams from foreskin.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 06:45 AM
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i get where you're coming from, i just think people will be much more willing to 'teach' and offer their perspectives if you didn't come across so harsh.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 06:41 AM
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yeah, and they also serve a purpose protecting other people. circumcision doesn't.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 06:39 AM
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ah, keeping men's traditional role as protectors and implying women can't protectors themselves. brilliant.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 06:38 AM
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you do realise what mutilation means, right? they don't need to chop the entire thing off.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 06:36 AM
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but vaccinations aren't just about you. circumcision is.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 06:36 AM
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mutilating the child is not "loving parent shit".
/r/MensRights16/07/22 06:34 AM
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maybe you aren't being accusatory. im just saying, be careful with your phrasing, it definitely could (and did) come off that way.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 06:34 AM
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you can't consent to birth... when you're older, you can consent to circumcision.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 06:33 AM
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you're awfully accusatory (or that's how it comes off) towards this sub about transphobia. especially now you're being upvoted, so you jumped a little to conclusions on a 44m old comment... we accept anyone, as long as they aren't an asshole. and we definitely aren't like TERFS.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 06:27 AM
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i also never expected feminism to be about men's rights. until they told me it was. and then apparently im wrong for expecting it to be?
/r/MensRights16/07/22 05:23 AM
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twox mods think misandry isn't real. suffice to say, not a fan.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 05:19 AM
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also why was I banned from other subreddits?! censorship. this is about the time most people start getting sceptical of feminism, considering the amount of subs that identify as feminist.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 05:18 AM
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you tried to compare them first, so i just played ball and compared. they are so different and cause so different things that they are incomparable and we shouldn't be trying. arguably worse? would you rather be coerced into sex or violently raped by a man twice your size? personally i know what i would choose you downplay one to raise the severity of the other. would you rather be held down, or gaslight, bullied, and abused into sex repeatedly? coercive sex isn't as easy as persuasion. it's tox…
/r/MensRights15/07/22 08:47 PM
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just not feasible. men would have to quit jobs because they wouldn't be able to get home for 6PM. and the ones doing the vile shit obviously aren't going to obey. thinking more about it, i almost wish this went through: I'd love to see the shock on people's faces when crime is still rampant and women still go missing. ofc they'd point out lower crime rates, but what do you expect when you lock half the population up. lock all black people in jail and OFC crime rates would plummet, but not becaus…
/r/MensRights15/07/22 05:49 AM
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did you know our spineless government actually backpedalled and apologised about having to reject it? or, at least, im pretty sure this is the one they apologised over.
/r/MensRights15/07/22 05:43 AM
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ugh, what is with women and calling strangers "honey". it's creepy and condescending. Complaining on the men’s rights thread about will not change nothing i mean, it raises awareness. that's pretty helpful. why else would you be complaining about RvW on reddit? in a men's rights sub especially. they are forcing pregnancy and birth on women and young girls this has nothing relevant to the topic of genital mutilation. and this is in america, and even then only in some states. in my country, women'…
/r/MensRights15/07/22 05:33 AM
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you know what else you said? men started the practice. why don't men end it? which not only, have i yet to see a single person explain to me why it matters men start it, but is also very much implying men are the ones deciding. sometimes a mother decides. sometimes a father decides. sometimes they both decide. both genders should stop mutilating people.
/r/MensRights15/07/22 01:18 AM
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okay, here's the thing for me. i don't give a shit if service workers are polite and joyous to me. if they're in a bad mood, i don't mind them acting a bit down and gloomy, so long as they don't treat strangers poorly as a result. i don't care to force them to act happy when someone they care about might have just died. but i take issue that society only seems to care, as per usual, about women. "never tell a woman to smile", but no one cares if we expect men to pretend happy? fuck that. women c…
/r/MensRights15/07/22 01:15 AM
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but the government could mandate against it.
/r/MensRights15/07/22 01:09 AM
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you got downvoted because you act as if there's nothing women could do to prevent it. women are, in a number of cases, the ones responsible for the mutilation of their child. you may not be primarily responsible, but you have some power.
/r/MensRights15/07/22 01:07 AM
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I legitimately cannot understand why civilized society would be ok with this, because most people haven't listened to babies crying/screaming throughout. that's all you need to realise how fucked up it is. saw a video comparing different baby crying sounds. hungry, dirty diaper and so. the last one was genital mutilation. the stark contrast between the other cries and that one will, im pretty sure, forever haunt me.
/r/MensRights15/07/22 01:05 AM
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i hear that in Muslim communities, the decision is primarily left up to the woman. i don't think there's a gender primarily pushing it, i agree with the other guy it's doctors. they wanna harvest for the face creams. but women absolutely can push it, like men can. did you know: in many countries, its not mandated for babies to recieve anaesthesia for the procedure? it's also not mandated to get both parent's permission in many places, meaning one could do it without the other. the UK does requir…
/r/MensRights15/07/22 01:03 AM
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well, i feel about 10x more disgusted now than i did originally. thanks for sharing.
/r/MensRights15/07/22 01:00 AM
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(some dude in california literally made it impossible to ever outlaw circumcision) hold on, the fuck? that's disgusting. can i get more info please? ignore the gaslighting assholes, feel how you wanna feel!
/r/MensRights15/07/22 12:57 AM
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They simply don't pay. "The govenrment makes them" not really i mean, yeah, they do. even if it's not always enforced (the government have a lot to enforce), you can be jailed for not paying. so yeah, you're made to pay. but fine, rephraase: do you think men can escape legally and without any risk? Somehow men think 200 a month to raise a child is egregious when it doesnt eveb cover their food. this isn't how child support works. and for the record, its being egregious when some people go into p…
/r/MensRights15/07/22 12:24 AM
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Data points to men raping men (prison rape is a huge issue) yeah, and i could concede this. prison rape is huge, for both genders. but 91% is huge bullshit and anyone with critical thinking can figure it out. i also like how you failed to actually refute why i don't listen to data, you just take it as a chance to hate on me. meanwhile, im operating off of common sense and sources like this. open your eyes and realise the UK law (and many others) makes it virtually impossible for women to rape. n…
/r/MensRights14/07/22 10:54 PM
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money is just a secondary problem after the result. wonder if you could point to a woman paying child support after being rape. i mean, would you like repeated interactions and financial enslavement to your rapist? didn't think so. the moment staristics tell me 91% of rape victims are women and 99% of rapists are men i stop listening. rape in many areas is designed in such a way women can barely rape, so it's a bs number.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 09:05 PM
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oh, i wasn't equating child support to rape. i was referring to all the child support paid because a guy got raped.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 05:56 PM
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are you truly surprised some people see this sub as incel-like? not particularly, but i think it's silly people think you're an incel because you don't like feminism. like i do not see the correlation whatsoever. I dont. appreciate it, truly. shows empathy for us and that's great. instead of calling out indivuduals in this sub all of feminism is attacked as a whole. i dont know about others, but i actually purposefully do this. i don't like blaming the individual, most of whom properly believe i…
/r/MensRights14/07/22 04:47 PM
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when i search for male victims/female offenders, and the article is buried beneath tons of articles about male offenders/female victims, yes it was coverer up. and it doesn't matter if she was charged, it still happened. that's the important part.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 04:19 PM
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i keep being told, if i don't want kids, i should keep it in my pants. abstinence is shitty advice. it's not a valid proposal. but it starts at the individual level. we can't perpetuate toxic advice like that
/r/MensRights14/07/22 04:16 PM
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you're twisting what i said. you asked why it's a men's rights issue. i answered by selling she sold the child despite what the father may have wanted. you took focus away from the child trafficking. of course i take issue with the human trafficking. but the trafficking isn't what makes this a men's rights issue. it's a question of what about the father, who's child was taken from him, and also how female-commited crimes get downplayed. assuming the child is male, you could also add how male vic…
/r/MensRights14/07/22 06:19 AM
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she tried to sell her child with seemingly no regard for the father.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 06:06 AM
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would it even help her?
/r/MensRights14/07/22 06:04 AM
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the only jokes im hearing are your pathetic attempts to troll.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 06:03 AM
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ah, don't worry, I've heard enough garbage from feminists to know they don't even know what their fucking patriarchy is. so yeah, it's clearly a made up boogeyman.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 06:02 AM
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i wanted to get a vasectomy to show contraception isn't just a woman's responsibility. have fun being sterile. while women have like 10x the options men have, you bet your ass they're primarily responsible for contraception. though yes, guys should wear a condom too, women should take accountability for not wearing condoms, having sex without one, not using an IUD, getting an injection, taking the pill, and not planning around their fertility cycle (and anything else i might have missed). it mig…
/r/MensRights14/07/22 03:50 AM
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as you should, because it is.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 03:26 AM
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source? unless it's your ass. then i don't want to see it.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 03:08 AM
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wow, this is actually... constantly hearing about how patriarchy hurts men too, but I've yet to see a study about it. just another sign feminists are full of shit.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 02:33 AM
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im sure every guy paying child support consented.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 01:48 AM
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this is pretty similar had to search to find that, when it should have been the top response. grossly covered up.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 01:28 AM
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i mean, i never said the issue is women. Can't complain about her wanting child support if you were also stupid in this case you should also be arguing for stricter abortion laws. can't complain about having to give birth if you were stupid. stricter obviously meaning exceptions for rape and stuff. but coincidentally, when its brought up to most women, they demand "it's different" and "we need unlimited access to abortions". Also, I guarantee you, most of the unwanted pregnancies are from men th…
/r/MensRights13/07/22 11:28 PM
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not as simple as a pay gap. an earnings gap. the best way to describe it. now what feminists do is purposefully misrepresent it as "women being paid less for the same job".
/r/MensRights13/07/22 06:08 AM
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i just gotta see, out of curiosity. if you're boyfriend casually said, "i hate women", how would it make you feel?
/r/MensRights13/07/22 06:05 AM
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for me personally, I'd extend a branch of sympathy, but still advise them to leave. I've been in that position. my ex needed therapy. help she couldn't afford. so i tried, for years i tried, and multiple times ended up taking the brunt of her shit. she'd say the most horrible things to me, and a few days later I'd be expected to move on because "i was in a bad mood, im sorry". so, TW: I'd have to sit there and listen as she says the creepiest things like "i want to die on the coast. it would be …
/r/MensRights13/07/22 06:01 AM
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i was subjected to a horrible experience at the hands of black people. do you think there was a huge group of people rushing to help me? No one, and I mean fucking no one in this misbegotten excuse for so called "men's rights" community is acknowledging that she was abused. you clearly haven't read enough of the comments. I'd estimate at least 30% (at a lowball) is telling OP she needs therapy for her abuse. we care about OP's girlfriend. she's suffered and is deserving of help. but there is zer…
/r/MensRights13/07/22 05:47 AM
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do you still think mens rights groups are a joke after seeing this? even in a mens rights area, people aren't considering verbal abuse here. that's how little focus is put on male victims and female abusers.
/r/MensRights13/07/22 05:41 AM
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its still unhealthy, and anyone who hates an entire group of people (be it race, gender, or age) should seek mental help. and besides, justified hostility is one thing. loudly voicing and raking pride in outright hate of half the globe is another. especially to the face on the one person from that group who's been good to you. OP doesn't deserve that. and we can't encourage toxic behaviour just because it deceloped from trauma. we need to encourage help.
/r/MensRights13/07/22 01:38 AM
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saving this for future reference. you made a lot of good points based off your experiences which might help other people learn some things. one of the best comments I've seen on this sub. i hope you're recovering from your past dude
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:47 PM
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they think they're men's responsibility, but they don't think men's mental health is their responsibility. no winning unless you refuse to play.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:43 PM
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’ll never understand things like that, like isn’t the message clear me neither. i guess some people are just self-centered assholes because they focus on their own joy.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:37 PM
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being with your point doesn't mean it's a bad idea to provide examples. and my point was that we can't address OUR problems without addressing feminism. while i acknowledge the feminist-bashing may go a bit far and be a bit misplaced in this sub, it still has a purpose. we can't address men's issues while NOW is actively fighting against shared custody laws. that isn't 'patriarchy'. that's feminism.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:32 PM
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how are they not able to overpower the woman? because they panic. they freeze. because if they overpower the woman and cause harm, the law will take the woman's side. because they were drugged. because they were coerced/manipulated. because there were multiple people to overpower him. because the guy is weak as fuck (i wouldn't be fending off a rapist). and more.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:08 PM
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Lmao i was just giving you a moment to prove your point. here, ill start you off. women in certain american states just lost abortions because of overturning RvW. your turn! and also, no, asking you for examples is not saying they aren't oppressed.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:05 PM
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Women are oppressed too when the hell did i say they weren't. this is the problem, everyone misinterprets anti-feminism as anti-womens rights. im all for helping women, but there's no 'patriarchy' oppressing them. that's why i don't like feminism. but fine, go ahead, I'll indulge you, go ahead and tell me about all the ways women are oppressed.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 03:56 PM
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anti-feminism is not anti-woman. it is anti-patriarchy theory. patriarchy theory is anti-male. all feminism believes in patriarchy, therefore feminism = anti-male.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 02:40 PM
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reasonable enough, but my problem is that I've never seen this with a female victim. one of my closest friends is also gay and i wouldn't want to undermine gay relations. literally, not once, have i ever seen someone play devils advocates to say "maybe the rapist was a woman?" when a woman was raped, despite the fact gay women suffer from higher rates of DV. so there's quite a disconnect that i see people playing devil's advocate with male victims.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 02:29 PM
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none. but according to your logic, i could force girls and it would be none because they got wet. it doesn't matter if he was erect, the offmychest OP raped her boyfriend. call it what the hell it is. rape. doesn't matter about the circumctances. if you said no, its rape.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 02:26 PM
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welcome to irresponsible, immature adults. plenty of women can't cook, clean, gardening, or DIY. plenty of men can't do DIY, gardening, cooking or cleaning.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 05:36 AM
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most people's responses isn't im a fully functioning man who can take care of themselves. in what world? this is basically the only response i see to women who claim to mother their partners im single. i hope you meet a responsible man like me this response would just have them bitching about creepy men.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 05:32 AM
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fuck women
/r/MensRights12/07/22 05:30 AM
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when it's an entire group of people? Little different. "fuck black people". huh.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 05:29 AM
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At this point, men's bathrooms are essentially unisex. Women's bathrooms are where you need to tread with care. yeah, and this is a problem.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:23 AM
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he froze up. women do it too. especially because men can't get physically violent with women in self-defence.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:19 AM
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I've never understood how women can get wet during rape. hmm, seems like a weird sentence, right?
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:18 AM
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how do you miscommunicate no?
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:16 AM
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I meant demonising women. There was no proof it was a woman unless you did some digging. ah, so it's okay to assume it's a man until evidence comes forward otherwise?
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:12 AM
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practice some goddamn empathy instead of making it all about you. jesus.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:11 AM
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fight or flight... or freeze they always leave that part out. its the most important part.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:10 AM
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many things, including the fact she thinks nothing is.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:08 AM
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must have been the world's greatest detective to figure that one out. now if only she could piece together the clues and figure out how/why.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:08 AM
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absolutely. this person and her post is a good reminder that women can do awful things just like men can, and that we shouldn't turn a blind eye to the damage some women cause. likewise, the post also serves as a reminder a large majority of women realise this garbage isn't okay and OP belongs in jail. both important things to keep in mind.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:06 AM
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who gives a shit. if she believes she SA him, she should turn herself over to the fucking police to ensure she won't ignore anyone else's consent. instead she sits there on her ass justifying her rape.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:02 AM
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man, i like to do that "can see both sides" shit. but this is the most clear cut case I've ever seen on reddit, and it's not even close. there's no 'side' where her BF was in the wrong. the OP is narcissitic, abusive, a rape apologist, and a rapist. there's no nuance or grey area in that.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 03:59 AM
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while drinking her overpriced latte... that her boyfriend probably paid for.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 03:54 AM
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He also didn't make another attempt to leave sooo Honestly you're being kinda mean You're judging me off of a mistake but it wasn't on purpose. make your S.O happy. I never forced him to do anything. You're just over thinking it "I don't think he technically said no" He couldn't be safer when he's with me abuse alert rape apologist alert
/r/MensRights12/07/22 03:52 AM
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He can be victim, but I'm not a rapist." wait, what? if you're not a fucking rapist, then what is he a victim of lady? she's insane. she's insane and probably won't face any repercussions to her actions. in fact, he'll probably lose friends just for saying she raped him.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 03:48 AM
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doesn't respect boundaries post the story to feminist subs and she would probably have been told he isn't respecting her needs and she should break up. which is a horrific thought.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 03:41 AM
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you know you fucked up when reddit mods had to get involved in misandry.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 02:59 AM
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if you feel the need to clarify you're a good person, it's probably because someone has said you're a bad person. if people are telling you you're a bad person, there's probably something wrong with you.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 02:58 AM
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"I'm the kindest person ever" while she sits there looking for validation and defending her actions instead of just accepting rape is wrong. jeez
/r/MensRights12/07/22 02:55 AM
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"I'd be embarrassed too.." like what? no you wouldn't. you'd be fucking traumatised.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 02:53 AM
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yes, lets have rapists cry a little and apologise and then they clearly aren't bad people.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 02:40 AM
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she's not the only person to brag about these kinds of scrnarios either unfortunately.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 02:35 AM
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surely being coerced into sex is not quite as terrible as being physically forced into it by a physically stronger party. it could arguably be worse. imagine the guilt and self-blame you'd suffer from if you didn't stand up for yourself and properly refuse sex (even though coercion is definitely not your fault)? at least when you're physically forced you know there's nothing you could have done. ultimately, one causes more physical damage, and one causes more mental damage. it's incomparable.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 02:33 AM
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of course, but there's a huge difference in the way people treat men and women who speak up about experiences. that needs to be addressed.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 08:18 PM
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women can be really creepy im sorry. that's just a fact. maybe these small groups make all men uncomfortable. am i okay to generalise women now?
/r/MensRights11/07/22 07:37 PM
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there's a lot of it. but honestly, i don't have too much problem with the post. i take problem with the OP of the offmychest post though. he's a complete, unsympathetic, asshole. it's littered all throughout the comments, and there's plenty of other people in that thread following a similar thought pattern. posts like this help OP and others develop into their unsympathetic mindsets by framing it as solely a woman's issue.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 07:35 PM
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find it hard to believe becaue men commit more crime it makes sense when you think about it. even if men are the majority of offenders. more men killed every year = more chances to be killed by a man or a woman therefore when 10,000 women are killed a year and 30,000 men: 8,000 women killed by men and 2,000 killed by women 22,000 men killed by men and 8,000 killed by women now obviously all the numbers are complete BS i made up, but the numbers weren't important. they're just placeholders to sho…
/r/MensRights11/07/22 07:25 PM
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but I’m a woman, so I guess that makes me a feminist hey, just cause you're a woman, doesn't mean you have to be a feminist. They don’t actually have to global economic power or representation to enact change feminism has been making changes for decades. lile NOW going against default 50/50 custody. i think what you meant to say was that individual women don't have the power to enact changes, just like us! women as a collective have made changes. hell, even some women individually can start taki…
/r/MensRights11/07/22 07:17 PM
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hold on, not to be rude, but haven't you identified yourself as old before? why the fuck would an older woman need to be a "pickme" desperate for attention. that's silly, but i guess i shouldn't be surprised when dealing with feminism.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 07:05 PM
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and this is why a war between men and women is on a gradual rise. no male role models allowed. it's tragic. something needs to change.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 07:00 PM
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I'll apply more critical thinking to the pie chart when we stop pretending like most murders are commited by men just because they're men.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 06:24 AM
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because they're all rapists who will go on to oppress women obviously. /s
/r/MensRights11/07/22 06:20 AM
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I was trying to flip feminist logic on it’s head shitty logic is still shitty logic. i understand what you were trying to do, but using feminist logic flipped will rarely ever be a good idea, unless you're demonstrating why the logic was wrong.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 06:19 AM
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why don't we see the gender disparity of single-parent households talked about more then?
/r/MensRights11/07/22 06:16 AM
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i think im gonna start saying that whenever someone has the audacity to ask about "the good men".
/r/MensRights11/07/22 05:16 AM
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am i missing something here? what do y'all see in Lene? i mean, she's fine i guess, probably better looking than me, but why the crush?
/r/MensRights11/07/22 05:13 AM
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it's like people taking incels as norm for men's rights activism people already do that. often. in fact, im pretty sure this is the majority opinion to anyone not in the community.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 05:09 AM
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we I big ass difference between the two. just because you wouldn't do something, doesn't mean others won't either.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 04:58 AM
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re-read my prior comment, i was making additions to explain cuz i sent before i was ready on accident. my bad here.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 04:46 AM
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changing the subject is not gaslighting. and also, i didn't even change the subject. the subject is still why the majority of mass shooters are male. i question what isn't happening to black people and what isn't happening to women, and what isn't happening to people outside of america which means they don't become shooters. its not why is it white american men. its why it isn't black non-American women. shootings are not inherently male. which means we're treating women differently to men. so h…
/r/MensRights11/07/22 04:41 AM
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because this source says there was merely a man near the scene who was detained, and not charged. then eye witnesses confirm they saw one of the girls stab the victim, so they definitely did more than just steal his phone (though stealing his phone still puts him at greater threat to other attacks).
/r/MensRights11/07/22 12:50 AM
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because you aren't The witness said: 'There were girls. There were three little girls. There was one with the green that I, that's one that did the stabbing, and there were two young kids, maybe like 13 or 14, too. They wanted to take his phone.'
/r/MensRights11/07/22 12:44 AM
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when female killers commit violence against girls?
/r/MensRights11/07/22 12:40 AM
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go give this shit to subs like twox and then come back to me.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 12:38 AM
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might actually keep the post around so that next time i see someone saying misogyny kills women, i can just link them this.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 12:36 AM
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I challenge you to find an equivalent statement on this sub, which somehow argues that "misogyny" is justified. I promise you, you won't find it. They are openly pro-misandry. They think it's "100% justified" (their EXACT words), and still they have the fucking nerve to suggest that they are "against sexism". you might find things similar, but always mass downvoted. and then peoplr cherrypick these assholes to prove their point that the entire movement is "pro-sexism", when we clearly aren't.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 10:52 PM
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validation. people need it from strangers on the internet, for some reason.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 05:06 PM
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i am not sure why they deleted it. David's on it. mods removed you to maintain censorship. you saw for yourself twox doesn't even realise we don't believe in patriarchy, they think we're pro-patriarchy and we aren't. could you imagine if you were allowed to advertise a place for free, open discussion? how quickly do you think the views of twox frequenters would crumble? I've commented in twox about the dangers of vasectomies and it was actually well recieved. that leads me to think many people w…
/r/MensRights10/07/22 05:04 PM
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"Edit: they removed it :\ which kind of stinks as I was polite and didn't break any rules." some of the responses you got there were silly anyway. even if they don't believe patriarchy exists, they want patriarchy so they assumed they knew us, because they never actually bothered to hold some dialogue with us, and now they can't prove that we're "pro-patriarchy" because we aren't. so they just pretend we want patriarchy, but will never explain how. I'd be happy to explore your middle ground deba…
/r/MensRights10/07/22 04:56 PM
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this. there was literally a post to (IIRC) ateaching subreddit from a new male teacher asking about what he should do. everyone in the comments was advising him to avoid being alone in classrooms and to never hug the students, even if they're in tears. comparatively, the amount of times i was (innocently enough) touched by female teachers....
/r/MensRights10/07/22 04:43 PM
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But... This is MENS rights, and were not here to talk about womens problems here. There are TONS of places around for that. Which is why we don't' really need it here. And which is why you see what you say you see. you're right. menslib should take this hint.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 06:13 AM
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gender-neutral rape laws shared equal custody laws overturn Hermesmann v. Seyer a law placing a ban on MGM and so many more. you're completely right.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 06:10 AM
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they harvest foreskin for face creams. barely anyone seems to know this. foreskin is immensely valuable. i wouldn't be surprised to learn they manufacture false information to justify the procedure. you can check out r/Intactivism for more info and some sources if you want. im with you though, when you're an adult go ahead and do whatever the hell you want. just keep your hands off and knives away from a child's genitals. interestingly, in the UK, we have a law saying one cannot consent to GBH (…
/r/MensRights10/07/22 06:02 AM
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So most of the feminists I know acknowledges and will try to activate for mens rights as well. I know a few outliers, but they are in the vast majority and I try not to associate with them as my belief is if you aren’t trying to better everyone’s lives, you shouldn’t be trying to better your own. Humans as a species are selfish enough as it is, we don’t need to continue adding to that toxicity. this is interesting to me. a lot of feminists i know, both IRL and online, are willing to acknowledge …
/r/MensRights10/07/22 05:48 AM
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But I also wish there was more respect and appreciation for the primal differences in men and women. wdym? i see plenty of this when it comes to things like pregnancy. just not so much for any difference with men. they only care if the difference benefits a woman.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 05:36 AM
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Fathers also have it pretty rough with their children. I've heard several stories of fathers having the police called on them, being held at gunpoint by a cop, or being arrested because they decided to bring their children out to the playground or something. Again, I understand why this happens, but it's sad that it does. don't forget the assault from strangers, attempted kidnappings, and constant undermining of their capabilities as a parent.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 05:32 AM
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same person, different things. Cassie Jaye directed the documentary. her ted talk discusses the response her documentary got and her thought process during researching.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 05:27 AM
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ah, that's definitely confusing. isn't national mems day November too? so people are gonna get confused between MMHM and IMD.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 03:09 AM
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for real, this may be feminists way of doing things, but it's not our way. you are, in no way, at fault OP.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 03:02 AM
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That is patently false. Many jurisdictions prevent that and many jurisdictions enable it.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 01:44 AM
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I want to talk about what is happening to white American men that make them feel the need to do this. Changing the subject to women is inappropriate. and maybe the best way to talk about what's happening to white American men is to talk about what isn't happening to black non-american women. It's entirely appropriate, even if the offenders are overwhelming male.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 12:04 AM
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i mean, out of context or not, its still exactly what you said. nearly word for word. and that was responding agreeing to someone about fragile men so...
/r/MensRights10/07/22 12:01 AM
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wrong person huh?
/r/MensRights09/07/22 11:45 PM
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i mean... you literally said they're weak and sad for bring unable to take "small dick criticism". even though its not even criticism, it's just outright hate.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 10:33 PM
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well, when we only focus on why guys do it, we focus on why its inherently male, even though it isn't. when we ask why women never do it, we start to ask about the differences in how they're raised and treated.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 10:15 PM
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glad to see you carefully considering and re-thinking some points! this is the reason why anti-feminism discussions are so important. they can't just be rejected as misogyny.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 07:56 PM
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Mens rights only became a thing AFTER feminism, because feminism was needed first, feminism was not needed first. they were both needed for most of history. we only realised we needed MR after feminism. and feminism feels like a cuss word around here because of shit like this
/r/MensRights09/07/22 06:36 PM
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well no, the problem is a lack of equality.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 04:33 PM
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And shorter sentences for women doesn't really hurt men as it doesn't affect them in any way. except it absolutely does. why don't men deserve shorter sentences?
/r/MensRights09/07/22 04:12 PM
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meh, london tried to prevent staring by allowing staring to be reportable, which is pretty ridiculous. our government directly informed judges they should give more lenient sentencing to women as well. it's still not ideal
/r/MensRights09/07/22 06:18 AM
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there's a problem when so many self-proclaimed feminists are saying shit like this then. it becomes impossible to tell the 'feminists' from the misandrists. and that's excluding the fact a number of feminist representatives are people like clementine ford.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 06:16 AM
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Wait, so their game plan here is to call out / shame men who come forward with tales of abuse at the hands of women, to in some twisted way.. get them to empathize with the abuse women face? nah, their game plan is to shame us so that we don't come forward with our tales, therefore making it seem like only women can be victims and men are privileged. they want to cover up just how many men are abused.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 06:12 AM
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instead of focusing on why its always a man, maybe we should be asking why it's almost never women?
/r/MensRights09/07/22 03:11 AM
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society that is patriarchal or matriarchal most of modern society, as it currently stands, is a plutarchy. people (including femimism the movement, never the individual) who push it as a patriarchy are silly
/r/MensRights09/07/22 01:01 AM
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Personally I think it can be traced back to women. bits of it can be traced back to women. cause, perpetuation, or indeed born from misogyny first. Maybe this is wrong of me to think it comes from misogyny so I really want to hear differing points of view. this already puts you leaps above some feminists that come here IMO. anti-feminism? it tends to be common. we don't like ideas like patriarchy. far from being against women's rights, but we don't like the idea that it's all men causing all iss…
/r/MensRights09/07/22 12:52 AM
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that's definitely one way it works. another way is ofc society viewing us as disposable in war (drafting). but the main element of male disposability comes from what was described to you just.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 12:43 AM
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well, i guess that pink tax was BS then. seems more like a blue tax to me. and also, prioritising the female homeless before the large majority of male homeless. idk if I've even seen a homeless woman. that's not even the worst. ew.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 12:19 AM
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The fact you're so scared of something so minor is testament of the quality of the average man in the west nowadays. not only am i not scared of it, but it is far from minor. vasectomies come with their own issues. You'd rather a woman get major surgery which requires weeks of recovery time so you can avoid two injections. I'm disgusted. im disgusted too. i never said I'd rather a woman get a tubal litigation. this is a gross twisting of my words. i just think its vile to keep telling us to get …
/r/MensRights09/07/22 12:12 AM
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but we tire of being told to get a vasectomy while treating the idea of getting tubal litigations as invalid. even if a bit different, the same issues arise for a vasectomy as a tubal litigation. and even if they should consider it, they deserve more options than just a vasectomy.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 09:04 PM
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How? if you can't see this, i don't even know. any woman who is pro-life would be primarily benefitted. but pro-choice women could be benefitted too. Anyone advocating that men should be able to say "oh you're pregnant? too bad, good luck with that, I'm getting a financial abortion and walking away" is in my opinion severely lacking in empathy id argue the opposite. being against parental surrender is lacking in empathy. It's not really an equivalent here either, as children are normally adopted…
/r/MensRights08/07/22 06:57 PM
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i don't like the idea too, but if it were to exist, everyone that isn't a single parent should pay.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 06:36 PM
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The problem is that there is no equivalent. It's not fair, sure, but that's life. okay, then it's not an equivalent to abortion. its an equivalent to adoption/safe haven laws. women have so many ways to avoid parenthood. it also helps women. and it's not like men haven't been lacking bodily autonomy for the past 5 decades.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 05:44 PM
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when have I ever said i believe women should be forced to carry children? it's not even a generalised sub thing, because the majority opinion here seems to be pro-choice. the only thing i said was that you can't expect to get my opinion if it supports you, but say it doesn't matter if it doesn't support you.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 05:05 PM
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Always discuss pay ladies and gents. for real. gender pay discrimination is still very much a real thing, despite being illegal. most importantly, men can be the victim too (as with most things feminists complain about). if you find out about it you can and should take it to HR. if that doesn't work, a lawsuit is an option. the law, at least in the UK, protects men from being paid lower wages too.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 05:27 AM
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good intentions doesn't always mean good outcome. not only did they undermine OP's capabilities as a parent, but they also made OP feel immensely uncomfortable. to top that off, talking about menstruation (especially in a workplace environment) is just gross TBH. like yes, it's natural, and i would never shame a woman for the cycle, but i still don't wanna talk about periods. you get me? telling your co-workers about your kids puberty is immensely inappropriate for the circumstance.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 04:41 AM
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anyone who believes statistics like ""99%", especially without asking for a source, is a clown and a fool who's unable to consider the reasons statistics might be skewed. men are very clearly not 90% of deranged individuals.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 04:33 AM
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they always say this but pretend like society thinks its the opposite.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 04:21 AM
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if this were to happen, everyone better damn well be paying. as feminists so often like to point out, "women can pay CS too", even though we all know that CS is far different in practice than theory.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 04:18 AM
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Now, if I want the kid and she doesn’t there’s absolutely nothing I can do i often see the argument of men being ignorant as an argument against parental surrender. "oh, men have to carry babies now?", or a phrase to the spirit of that. they argue against parental surrender because men don't birth children. the only problem is that we aren't arguing against common sense. we know the woman gives birth. we want an equivalent, not executive control. if we didn't want an equivalent, we'd argue men s…
/r/MensRights08/07/22 04:15 AM
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would be a great way to prevent men being accused of staring at women in gyms.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 04:04 AM
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me ex was asian. same culture. man earns and a woman takes care of the finances. my ex would also argue with, and berate, me all the time. im just saying, there's a reason she's my ex. take care of yourself OP. and make sure you don't fall victim to abuse (especially verbal in your case). from what i can tell, there's a lot of really toxic cultures in those kinds of countries, my ex even started to recognise some before we broke up.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 03:35 AM
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Can't tell you how many times I've heard someone complain that women can't vote in Saudi Arabia -- which is not a democracy and has no voting for either sex at the national level. wow, even I've never thought of it like this. "women from x 3rd world country still can't vote". Well yeah, no shit, because it's not a democracy. completely recontextualised. i guess that's just what feminism does.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 12:26 AM
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Obviously there were times where no one got to vote at all you'd think it's obvious but a lot of feminists seen neglectful of it. hell, a lot of people don't even seem to know this information. i blame the way its framed in schools as women couldn't vote. they don't care to go into voting history enough to explain the nuances (at least in the UK).
/r/MensRights07/07/22 11:45 PM
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what world are they living on where misogyny is okay? seriously, what are they on? when we live in a world where we propose male-specific curfews and femicide, how is misogyny not taken seriously?
/r/MensRights07/07/22 07:21 PM
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ah, so our opinions only matter when they support women? yeah, you can fuck off then. my opinion always is important or is never important. you don't get it both ways.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 04:47 PM
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actually, you did just remind me of something . have fun reading! but no, seriously, i don't expect you to read all that. i haven't even read all that, but you can go through and have a look at some examples. one that springs to my mind is NOW (national organisation of women) opposing 50/50 custody laws. also, i just can't stop pushing the Seyer case. way too many people don't know about it, and it's way too fucked up to be hidden.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 06:01 AM
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idk, its been some time. i do have a base knowledge in most of the major religions, but it was so long ago that the information is hard to recall. so im just gonna rake you at your word and say, thanks for correcting me! oh and they feed you there, regardless of cast creed or religion. And the food is great. I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the local sikh community and this is just totally awesome. Sikhism has always been one of my favourite religions for their acceptance.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 05:56 AM
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not neccasarily as a result of feminism, but i always like to point out Hermesmann v. Seyer which definitely has a negative impact on men. and a "not entirely serious" suggestion still implies there was some seriousness behind it.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 05:47 AM
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Sikhism. it is indeed a religion. i believe its of indian origin and fuses concepts from both hinduism and Islamic beliefs.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 05:43 AM
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im pretty sure you'd have better luck with the dog.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 05:41 AM
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so i shouldn't be defending RvW, right? just checking.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 05:29 AM
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the dreaded patriarchy strikes again! cuz, ya know, women can't do anything that would harm equality
/r/MensRights07/07/22 01:07 AM
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my perspective comes from the way its not neccasarily possible to ban drafts. in a perfect world there would be no war. but you're not stupid, and im not stupid, im not going to insult your intelligence. you know this isn't a perfect world. you know there's going to be war. the question is, if voluntary forces are losing a war, what do you do? do you let all the citizens free and risk becoming enslaved by your opposition, who may be the person who is causing wars? or do you conscript them to fig…
/r/MensRights07/07/22 12:44 AM
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200 men and 50 women makes a huge difference against 200 men and 0 women. conscript women too. or conscript no-one. anything else is braindead.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 12:28 AM
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the same people peddling the shit like we need to teach men not to rape.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 12:26 AM
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I’m sure many men here who are circumcised have dads so this whole women not telling men of children is a lie yeah, many men who have been circumcised do have dads. some also don't. i just listed women not telling fathers as one reason. not the only reason. i noticed how you turned a blind eye to the fact many, many countries only require the consent of one parent. You just ask them men who do it to stop. we do. but we also hsve to ask the women who do it to stop. also, jewish women are held in …
/r/MensRights06/07/22 04:23 PM
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alright, cool, so i can ignore the amount of claims about women getting cat-called? it's ridiculous to try and blame all circumcision on men, women can just as easily get the procedure done. look at this guy explain a little more about his religion . women are more at fault in his religion. don't wanna take the guy at his word? probably not that hard to just look it up.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 03:40 PM
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And 52% of pregnancies unwanted pregnancies. incest is a non-factor because they can still use contraception. stealthing/contraceptive sabotage? i assume that would come under the 48% where contraception was used. contraception was used and went wrong. so rape? i actually considered this when sourcing. we definitely have to make some room for rape cases, but do you really think that's anywhere near 52%? why parody anyone i don't know, frustration with feminists who go around saying 95% statistic…
/r/MensRights06/07/22 03:30 PM
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At what point did men have to fight for the right to vote? for most of history. landowners could vote, men and women. men were also appressed and senied the right to vote. for a point on gender, you don't make your point about gender. men did have to fight to vote too, its ignorant of history to think otherwise. Can paternity tests not be compelled? in some places, i believe not. France i believe is one. and even in countries where you can demand a paternity test, it causes a lot of problems The…
/r/MensRights06/07/22 03:26 PM
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Women don’t have a choice of a man raped them. your entire argument before neglected the idea men could be raped so i just thought we were ignoring the cases where rape took place.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 03:07 PM
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Do those kids not have dads who are also involved in the mutilation noy neccasarily. women have no legal responsibility to inform the father of the pregnancy. also many countries require the consent of only one parent. mostly it's a culture thing. american hospitals pressure parents into cutting. america needs to change. Almost all circumcised are men soooo… because it's illegal to circumcise women? don't know what your point is here.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 03:04 PM
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i highly doubt there's even data out there that tracks which parent ordered the circumcision. but it would be foolish to believe women don't make a sizeable portion of that, especially considering that i believe mothers are generally the ones to get it done in religious culture (told to me by someone of that religion).
/r/MensRights06/07/22 05:31 AM
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48% of these conceptions occurred during a month that contraception was used from this, we can infer 52% of unwanted pregnancy is conceived from non-use of contraception. this isn't including planned pregnancies that were later regretted and aborted. but like i said, that 99% statistic was complete bs pulled out of his ass (or an attempt to parody feminists), and anyone who believes thats true is ridiculous.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 05:28 AM
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compressing my responses into one comment, so.. your 1st comment: Also dead wrong about vasectomies dead wrong. in saying this having seen multiple men be rejected for the same reasons as women get rejected. some men get them without issue, some women get them without issue. even if i play your side, and we say men get rejected less than women, it doesn't matter. my only point was that men get rejected too. Omg WHEN did men not have the right to vote based on their gender? I never said it was ba…
/r/MensRights06/07/22 05:22 AM
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women can use condoms too, or refuse sex without one. they can also get tubal litigations. that's on top of a whole host of other options, even if we exclude BC pills, that men don't have. they didn't get pregnant by themselves, but they sure as hell can abort by themselves. (in most places). this is also completely beside the point, because i only said women use abortions because they were irresponsible. they know the toll pregnancy takes, why allow abortions for irresponsibility? it's not like…
/r/MensRights06/07/22 05:06 AM
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yes, they do and have. most countries only require the consent of one parent, and American hospitals actively pressure new parents into commiting the surgery. our country (we're both UK) is actually one that does need boths consent, thankfully.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 04:59 AM
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is mansplaining?
/r/MensRights06/07/22 04:53 AM
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when you believe a victim, you're playing judge, jury, and executioner.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 04:52 AM
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if you did, you'd have gone and done it. so yeah, quit your shit.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 03:07 AM
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the most recognisable case is Hermesmann v. Seyer, which set the precedent.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 03:05 AM
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"peaceful dialogue" "god the morons". uh-huh.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 03:04 AM
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not moving on until infant mutilation is banned.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 02:57 AM
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usually mothers make the choice? huh. so what is all this shit im hearing about how women aren't responsible and how its men making the decision. weird.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 02:56 AM
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it's the norm. apparently if a woman is thinking of getting FGM, she needs mental help. if a man does MGM, its A-ok. weird how people treat men and women that differently.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 02:38 AM
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I’m wondering why women are being involved in this discussion at all. Not everything is our fault guys. women could stop mutilating their sons? or stop saying they prefer if cut?
/r/MensRights06/07/22 01:58 AM
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and all the women saying they prefer it cut?
/r/MensRights06/07/22 01:45 AM
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who mutilates their children?
/r/MensRights06/07/22 01:44 AM
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the 99% is complete bullshit. but undeniably, many women use it because they were irresponsible.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 01:41 AM
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and the right to insist on condoms not even just that. everyone seems to overlook the existence of female condoms. women literally could wear condoms themselves, and insist on men wearing one too.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 01:40 AM
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women cannot even get sterilised unless husband approves, neither can men Women had to fight for the right to vote, men also had to. they had to fight to not get fired for being married or pregnant, and men had to fight for their country, and the women who were worrying about being fired. stop focusing on the past. focus on the present. what legally protected rights do men have women dont. not who's more CEO's, or who's more respected. things that are clearly discriminatory with no grey area. he…
/r/MensRights06/07/22 01:36 AM
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gender neutral or abolish way too many people rn are acting like 'abolish or stay the same' is a valid idea. its not. not if you want equality.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 01:30 AM
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Now you might say "there wont a draft so it doesnt matter" to support your point looks at ukraine huh.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 01:26 AM
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don't forget suicide and biased courts, on top of even more.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 01:18 AM
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they won't. that's the problem. we asked them for 5 decades to stand up for our rights in any form. and no feminists, nor the majority of women even cared. they actviely undermined the severity of our issues. and don't get me wrong, i still agree with you, we should defend women's bodily autonomy too, but i have my doubts we'll recieve ours after. its a tough situation.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 09:05 PM
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"you're afraid to get hit by a girl" no, im afraid to hit a girl.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 04:57 PM
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this is just killallmen but discreet. they can't risk upsetting that patriarchy!
/r/MensRights05/07/22 04:46 PM
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over some nobody on Reddit. you mean the nobody on reddit who provided a lot of sources? or did you not actually read the post? i wasn't going through copying all his sources for myself when i could just link his post. Again, a step that circumcised men do NOT have to do. so.. you think we should mutilate people fof convenience, got it. I can't tell you how many times throughout the years I read in the various dating, sex, or equivalent relationship-type subreddits here on Reddit where the woman…
/r/MensRights05/07/22 04:35 PM
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i don't get the weird fascination with "you're downplaying our issues". if anything, I'd argue bringing up FGM in response is downplaying men's issues, especially when circumcision is - by definition - mutilation too. weird to think about, because i rarely hear people get called out for downplaying men's issues. "men are the vast majority of suicides". "but women attempt more". - no one tells people here to stop downplaying men's issues. just weird.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 07:05 AM
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health benefits? dobutful at best this is just one of those things why? it shouldn't be. it's time to change american culture.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 05:51 AM
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yeah, i agree! we should mutilate all people at young ages and gamble with their lives for tiny benefits! genius! you're silly.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 05:41 AM
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still being developed. so no, that's impossible.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 05:21 AM
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i suspect its born out of frustration. not great to be harsh, but i certainly understand it. hope it didn't makr you feel discouraged! when you think about it, it's super weird we've been mutilating children for centuries, and only now some people are seeing that maybe there's something wrong with it. im all down for you putting yourself on the sharp side of a knife if that's what you really want, but that decision needs to be in your hands.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 05:10 AM
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out of curiosity, may i ask how your fiancee responded when you said you wouldn't be mutilating your child? im guessing it was nothing notable as you didn't mention it, but im still interested. i hate seeing how normalised it is, to the point I've even seen some people get angry you reject the practice.
/r/MensRights05/07/22 05:05 AM
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that's been my experience. most of the girls I've seen self-harm have drawn attention to it. my best friend did it years ago and actively hid what he was doing because he didn't want to seek attention. he hid it so much that even though we were best friends before he started doing it, i only recently found out. he stopped some time ago luckily, because he sought help. (thus there goes the idea "men don't seek help".) i can't say whether my anecdotes are representative of a common trend, but ther…
/r/MensRights04/07/22 10:16 PM
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17378847/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23374102/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8800902/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21672947 Clitoris surgery is totally different as I’m sure you know not by your logic.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 02:36 AM
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to mutilate: inflict a violent and disfiguring injury on. violent? check. disfiguring? check. ergo, mutilation. sensitivity are maintained also, this one is complete bs. foreskin has recpetors in it, so obviously sensitivity is lost. by your logic, clitoridectomies (type 1 FGM) aren't mutilation.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 02:30 AM
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so... you don't know the definition of mutilation then? just because its circumcision doesn't mean it ain't mutilation.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 02:17 AM
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it is, by definition, mutilation.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 02:06 AM
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men have never had rights lol. it's just that a few people prefer to use that to control women, instead of to support men's rights like the majority of us do. anyone making a big deal of this post is exposing themselves at idiots. this post has gained no popularity yet. stop cherry-picking. feminism has toxic individuals and is a toxic movement that supports this kind of shit against men.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 11:43 PM
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my friend, literally look at how this has no upvotes and no comments supporting the post. we, as a community, do not support this shit.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 11:42 PM
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so prove victims of 'femicide' are targeted because they're women.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 06:12 PM
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so why are we worrying about quotas?
/r/MensRights03/07/22 03:36 PM
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people try, they get shut down. and not just protests, any attempt to fight for men's equality. advocating can never hurt, though ideally we would be able to do more than talk.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 05:45 AM
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for real, trans people are so underestimated in the discussion about gender equality. people just seem to forget they've had it both ways. they offer a unique perspective on both sides.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 05:43 AM
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tbf, isn't the entire DC universe riddled with casual misandry? especially the amazons. i think hawkgirl calls that out too. and even wonder woman, who is capable of breaking away from amazon beliefs, still falls prey to misandrist viewpoints. in the comics, i believe one origin for the amazon survival is literary raping male sailors, killing them, and then banishing all male children born. quite fucked up. doesn't the wonder woman movie show a lot of misogyny? ironic.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 05:29 AM
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man, get rid of all women. imagine how much less infanticide there would be... suddenly that argument doesn't seem so positive, huh?
/r/MensRights03/07/22 05:25 AM
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unfortunately, your representatives (looking at you, clementine ford), and many feminists personally wronged by men do not see it that way. whilst i appreciate the individual not demonising men, it does very little when men are being constantly demonised by society, and by feminism.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 05:22 AM
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nah, i mean, i don't know if im one of the more rational people on this sub, or what's going on, but i definitely won't hate you. i mean, I'm pretty anti-feminist, but i don't go around hating every feminist, nor am i against women's equality in any way. you're more than welcome to stick around in the sub, and expose yourself to more unique perspectives and personal experiences, which might widen your own viewpoint on these things. I'd understand if you don't, but i definitely invite you too. bu…
/r/MensRights03/07/22 02:53 AM
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man, its weird when I see so many people defending mothers who get their children circumcised. i wish people (generally) would apply this quote to them. but it only ever seems to get applied to men.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 12:45 AM
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i do agree eith you about the severity of the pill, and how women can't be solely responsible. but the onus can't be on men to permanently alter (for some people, fuck up) their bodies either. so condoms? no sex without condoms.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 12:41 AM
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women still have plenty of other options that isn't pill. it's too much to ask someone to permanently sabotage their reproductive system when they might want kids in the future too.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 12:39 AM
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How come a bill based birth control ain't be available for men? how come a male pill doesn't exist? it's a lot harder to stop millions of sperm, especially without severe consequences (e.g., inflicting depression).
/r/MensRights03/07/22 12:29 AM
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Regret of male vasectomy is much lower. because its one of our only choices. if we want sex, its the only really reliable one.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 12:28 AM
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so, what you're telling me is that biology dictates women are primarily responsible for BC because its easier to develop female contraceptives, but that they actually expect men to take responsibility over contraception/be accountable for it?
/r/MensRights03/07/22 12:24 AM
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Maybe someone had a reason not to feel comfortable around men? people are villified for feeling the same way about women, or black people. it can't be right for one and not the other. and all feminism believes in patriarchy. if you don't, you aren't a feminist. even then, if you buy into patriarchy, i don't blame the individual. i blame fhe movement.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 12:02 AM
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I'd rather not own land than be sent to death. no gender was privileged then. just different. rooted in bs traditions.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 11:56 PM
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why shouldn't men do all the best jobs too then?
/r/MensRights02/07/22 11:50 PM
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nah, you landed on the part of reddit that blatantly hates feminism for all the right reasons. like honestly, are they wrong? OP's post was deleted because they asked feminists to question their hypocrisy.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 11:46 PM
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see, a lot of people assume we don't talk to feminists. my closest friend is hard feminist. i have plenty of feminists in my life. that's not the problem. I've talked to plenty on this sub recently too, which have been mostly pleasant experiences. i don't hate any one feminist, i hate feminism. i cannot stand patriarchy. even in this sub you can see feminists contradicting themselves: "feminist patriarchy is a societal structure, its not in reference to men". but that's just a plutarchy, so that…
/r/MensRights02/07/22 06:42 AM
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Gets annoying when feminism is conflated with radical feminism. hmm, i see why this would get annoying. its not radicals that do it for me personally though. i conflate radical feminism with assholes (because, well, they are), and feminism with anti-male ideals (patriarchy).
/r/MensRights02/07/22 06:36 AM
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you also all believe in patriarchy, that just don't work for me.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 06:33 AM
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but that's a problem when you're movement is found on anti-male beliefs. look, im legitimately a huge believer that most individual feminists like yourself mean no harm. truly. i think you bought into that faulty dictionary definition of equality for all and that's that. im also pro-womens rights, and will be consistently advocating for them if there's a need to. but feminism is not for men. feminism isn't even for women. feminisn is for power, and its out to benefit any woman who has power to g…
/r/MensRights02/07/22 06:32 AM
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its great for propoganda purposes though.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 06:25 AM
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you should probably be relieved you never heard of FDS tbh. female dating strategy. toxic AF, so bad that it was actually banned not too long ago. didn't do much because they have their own website, but its better than nothing. you're completely right in this comment though, and i appreciate common ground wherever it exists.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 06:23 AM
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upheld by some men. It’s also upheld by some women. Men are also oppressed by the patriarchy. This isn’t a man v woman issue. so its a plutarchy?
/r/MensRights02/07/22 06:21 AM
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Why? A patriarch is a male leader, so why would you use a word that clearly refers to men in a way that doesn't reference men? yeah, anyone who says 'patriarchy' is a systemic social structure and that its not used in reference to men/not a way to blame men is full of shit. the correct term for what the other commentor is trying to describe would be a plutarchy. a patriarchy has to be in reference to men.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 06:19 AM
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they also claim that misandry does not exist. looking at the mods of feminist subs, who represent feminism is a very poor light.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 06:17 AM
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It's not relevant to the discussion we were having about US laws, we were? i don't recall you specifying that and the world is a lot bigger than america. when it doesn't get specified, people tend to just assume its about the world and can use an example from any country. Instead, because it wasn't specified earlier, it feels like nothing but a cheap attempt to discard invaluable evidence. especially if you have an argument against the source anyway. imagine this hypothetical: we're talking abou…
/r/MensRights02/07/22 06:16 AM
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such as financial ruin, terrible loneliness don't forget a big cause for both these issues isn't 'patriarchy', but child support.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 06:10 AM
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then you should address it to change other people's minds. unless of course you don't have a way to address it other than accusing it of misogyny.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 06:07 AM
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Ok, so should I assume that mens rights activists inherently hate women also? Cool, will do. a lot of us don't assume feminists inherently hate men. most of us think feminism in inherently anti-male due to the pillar of patriarchy. its snow the movement compared to the individual.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 06:04 AM
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https://domesticviolenceresearch.org/ (also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtOsEkY_UHc) https://www.mankind.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Male-Victims-of-Coercive-Control-2021.pdf https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/svjfry12.pdf https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0886260513520231 https://www.mankind.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Testing-Predictions.pdf https://childprotectionresource.online/mothers-are-more-likely-to-abuse-children-than-fathers-fact/ you can search through th…
/r/MensRights02/07/22 05:59 AM
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lmao do you think the women just sit back and chill and have fun while the men fight you think they have a harder time than the men being sent to die? it's a damn privilege not to be drafted, plain and simple. im sorry, you're telling me you'd rather be drafted than be a refugee fleeing? didn't think so. Men do get a say. Husbands boyfriends and fathers influence women’s chances of getting an abortion by this logic, women should get a say in the father paying child support. women influence men's…
/r/MensRights02/07/22 05:34 AM
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takes 2 to make a child, takes one to stop its birth. men don't get a say in that. biology also dictates women should bear the brunt of contraception because its easier to counter a few eggs, but im constantly seeing complaints that men dont do enough here. but fine, not convinced? i can think of no greater privilege in the world than not having to be drafted.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 04:41 AM
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i can't tell if you're parodying the idiotic feminists who make a big deal of men and females, or are being genuine that we should avoid males and women because some people insist its a big deal. either way, i approve.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 04:35 AM
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the type 1's are also the kind of people to say "yes, this sucks for men, but its actually not misandry, its as a result of misogyny". Yes, it's possible to be a feminist & not hate men. I say that because I know such people. yeah, i used to be one of these people too. type 0 level, there's a ton of them. it's brutal to free yourself from.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 04:32 AM
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man, you can choose whether to have a child and if you want a part of my money to support your decision? i wish men got to make choices about their life. sounds like privilege to me.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 04:29 AM
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sydney watson held a march for men in australia. Australia, as misandrist as it is, obviously saw backlash to the rally. hordes of angry feminists outraged at the idea men could suffer too showed up and protested the rally, until they turned things violent. i believe police had to get involved. I'd recommend Sydney's video on it, cuz she actually talks about what went down, without it being downplayed.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 04:23 AM
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its not just the states you gotta be weary of. entire countries are writing the same exclusionary laws.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 04:20 AM
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the representatives are the biggest problem. i wonder how many feminists could even name me a representative who hasn't done something stupid in the name of feminism before. the representatives are the people who've got followers though, and they'll leap on you if you dare criticise someone who they hold in such high regard. who to fight against is a big issue.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 04:16 AM
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my priorities lie with freeing a child from enslavement by their rapist moreso than with abortion TBH.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 04:10 AM
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very true, im only just realising how many people try to misrepresent what went down. i assume it's more common if you're actually in america.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 04:09 AM
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it doesn't help this kind of shit is normalised or downplayed by governments (see Hermesmann v. Seyer)
/r/MensRights02/07/22 04:07 AM
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look at one of the main arguing points against parental surrender. "do men carry the child?" "it's women who have to ruin their bodies". while a valid enough point on its own, it proves the double standard you mentioned. they only care about biology when it's a point for women. if men are disadvantaged due go biology, they don't give a shit.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 04:04 AM
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my body my choice for all or none
/r/MensRights01/07/22 09:39 PM
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Surely you believe women should be allowed to report abuse as well report abuse to the justice system. not the public, to let public opinion run rampant. courts,are there for people to defend themselves.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 09:37 PM
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So some of the men never found guilty in court, But they were guilty you can't prove this. most of them could just as easily be innocent. this could be a 90% innocent 10% guilty, a 10% innocent 90% guilty, or a 50/50. we just don't know which ones are guilty when a court couldn't find them guilty with all the evidence. innocent until proven guilty.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 09:35 PM
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how would we regulate that? couldn’t people lie about that? this is true, but it's nothing different to what women do now. I'd rather take my chances and trust that the majority of people wouldn't lie about it. and if a man does like, a woman could also take him to court, and i imagine evidence of when the man was informed of the pregnancy would be quite common. as for women lying, that's where paternity fraud comes from. should we take steps to prevent women lyimg about paternity fraud, or hope…
/r/MensRights01/07/22 06:21 AM
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pfft, i know it might seem weird, but im in a discussion with another feminist and i wanted to link your post to him, cuz i think it was great for building bridges to individuals. but because of that im taking a look back through it. I wasn't aware there was such controversy between the 2 subs, im new to reddit yeah, this sub and that sub both delete comments for linking to specific other subs, but its not for censorship reasons. both feminism and mensrights end up on that list, naturally. our m…
/r/MensRights01/07/22 05:59 AM
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shut up bot, go correct someone else.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 05:52 AM
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just look at the username my friend, and ignore. sadly, its not uncommon for us to have to put up with people like this. many people here are even quick to block because of it, even against more sound-minded people like yourself. just being here recently has shown your support, and the 300-ish upvotes should show our gratitude for it, even if you feel like you haven't done much.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 05:51 AM
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What would be your explanation for this other than patriarchy? what i said before. despite same job with same qualifications. on average, women take more PTO, men work more overtime, biology dictates women have to carry a baby for nine months, is primarily in charge of childcare and more. it is not a pay gap. it hasn't been since about 1970. it is a wage gap. feminism tries to blame something they can't even properly pin down to cover up that women make different life choices. as for the wage ga…
/r/MensRights01/07/22 05:35 AM
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A couple years ago a theater tried to do women-only screenings of Wonder Woman a movie screening is a lot different to a city. it is blatantly sexist, and bad for business to allow only women. what about families of those women? a city is more obviously for women's safety (even though women can just as likely be violent or rapists, but whatever) than outright just to exclude men. i suppose that's another factor of difficulty though, will you ban families? if women give birth to sons while inside…
/r/MensRights01/07/22 03:04 AM
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Something like 90% of all homicides in the world are committed by men. No one said female offenders don't matter, just that overwhelmingly the issue seems to be male offenders. and 2/3rd's of infanticide are commited by women. should we start gendering infanticide to fix the issue because "women would have to accept it's a woman's issue" or would that turn a blind eye to male offenders? it also doesn't help that most of the time i look for homicide statistics are generally focused on 'femicide',…
/r/MensRights01/07/22 12:32 AM
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I feel like FGM and circumcision are at least somewhat different. One was originally intended to be for hygiene, the other was originally intended to make sex painful so the woman wouldn't cheat on her husband. interestingly, i believe both practices were initially created for the purpose of decreasing sexual pleasure. i also hear that when you compare genital mutilation, you should look at a clitoridectomy compared to circumcision, as these are the least severe forms. a lot of people compare th…
/r/MensRights01/07/22 12:23 AM
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they should have a short timeframe to drop both rights and responsibilities over a child, as soon as they learn of its existence. how many people really want to spend ⅕ of their life financially enslaved to someone else?
/r/MensRights30/06/22 09:41 PM
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"it's not fine" "its right". what side do you come down on here? should women be getting permission?
/r/MensRights30/06/22 09:38 PM
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so its fine to force you to get a husband's permission before you allow tubal litigations?
/r/MensRights30/06/22 09:31 PM
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what, equality benefits all? that's not femimists helping men. nor is it actual proof femimism seeks equality that would benefit all. femimists only seek equality where it benefits women.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 09:30 PM
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well, some people are gonma be pro-life. you gotta sort through those first. ofc they're happy. and then you have to ask yourself, why aren't people allowed to feel frustrated? 50 years and no advancement for our rights. I'd say most people aren't 'happy', just indifferent.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 09:27 PM
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i didn't mean your argument specifically, i was calling out all the people who do say shit like "keep it in your pants" "should have used a comdom". as i said, the child being born and needing support is the only valid reason, and not valid enough IMO.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 07:38 PM
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men have to acknowledge it's their problem damn, guess all the female offenders don't matter. why not find ways to decrease crime as a whole because they only want to decrease crime against women. i also like how they don't even ask who's building this place. we all know the answer to that.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 06:31 PM
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Lots of comments about women needing to take accountability and be more careful let's be clear, this one is a toxic cycle. pro-lifers say it, so women have spit it back at men. men are now spitting it back at wonen our of frustration. it's shitty advice. "oh, just practice abstinence" "use contraception" "get a vasectomy/tubal litigation". it's braindead. what we need to is stop perpetuating these toxic mindsets and that starts with the individual.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 06:27 PM
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a rhetorical ask may have been made, but im still open to hearing answers. it's a question I've asked many, many times and gotten no answer for.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 06:23 PM
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I could see allowing for exemptions for religious purposes since Jewish people have been doing it for thousands of years and have a religious ceremony for it, but even that feels a bit wrong tbh screw that. in a large majority of the world, we've banned FGM. what they don't tell you is that in a lot of muslim societies, FGM is a common belief. muslim people aren't there's even the only believers. no religious exemption for that, rightfully so. your freedom of religion ends when it requires you h…
/r/MensRights30/06/22 06:20 PM
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like i said, its not enough to justify financial slavery. im just saying it's a hell of a lot more valid than all the braindead pro-life arguments/misandry used. im definitely all for parental surrender.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 06:14 AM
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A scholarship that would help a woman gain access to the data science/computer science/mobile/web career fields that is already dominated by men? can you name some scholarships for me that support men in industries like beauty or teaching?
/r/MensRights30/06/22 05:23 AM
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the fact menslib is supposedly for men's rights and there's posts about stuff like pay gap. post about the pay gap on feminist subs. pay gap isn't even the only woman's issue I've seen addressed there.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 02:38 AM
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free speech doesn't protect you from criticism.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 02:36 AM
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"give me one example of feminists helping men" jeopardy music starts playing one week later: no response while at the same time: "feminism is for men too!". its ridiculous.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 02:31 AM
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rephrase the comment however you want. it doesn't matter to me. i try not to get into all the details about sentience and existence and stuff. so change my comment from "it doesn't" to whatever you'd prefer to say.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 02:25 AM
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its actually been pretty well researched and documented in europe. women were about 30% more likely if i recall the data correctly.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 12:01 AM
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see, I'd say a simple google search would tell people this but google probably does its best to censor problems started by women.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 11:54 PM
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women were more likely to start wars actually. at least in europe.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 11:49 PM
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don't forget they'd solve all health issues as well, physical and mental. need bones repaired? we're basically from the wizarding world as long as women are in charge. seriously, people who believe all women in power will solve issues are clowns.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 11:45 PM
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ah, im glad im not the only person who thinks about the fridge whenever BJ has another controversy showing him as an idiot.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 11:43 PM
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i think the reasonable answer is both. he enforces the supposed 'patriarchal' stereotyping of women as weak (these are the people feminism should hate, but instead they direct their hate at us), and actively assumes men are naturally more violent. so basically, he's just being an asshole. a clueless dimwit trying to keep popularity.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 11:40 PM
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she identified as a man, obviously.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 11:32 PM
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if Johnson were clever, he wouldn't have hid in a fridge.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 11:31 PM
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Men can wear a condom, get a vasectomy or just keep it in their pants. all options women have. and more.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 11:24 PM
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the phrasing also implies you believe that was his opinion. i don't want to assume things, maybe English isn't your first language, or you made a typo, or something. but... "so you think..." makes a big difference compared to "okay then, can i ask, do you think...". having a question mark on do you think is a lot different to so you think.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 11:23 PM
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i mean, women are just as capable of riding and getting off dick before ejaculation, or refusing PIV sex. they have plenty of control over where men ejaculate (except rape). or refusing sex unless he wears a condom.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 11:19 PM
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huh, this is fascinating. i don't think I've actually heard a woman vocalise that pregnancy is far preferable to financial enslavement before. come to think of it, I've also rarely heard women suggest that pregnancy is worse, just that they aren't comparable. maybe people disregard the argument with "incomparable" because most people think 18 years of support is worse, but don't want to support parental surrender. thanks for sharing your thoughts. made me think.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 11:17 PM
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while you're right ths process is very different between genders, i still don't think resorting to pro-life arguments do you any favours with securing abortions. I've said it before, but the only valid argument against parental surrender is that in parental surrender the child actually exists, while in abortion it doesn't. not enough to justify 18 years of slavery, but it is valid. anything else is either outright misandry or invalidates women's entitlement to an abortion.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 11:11 PM
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you could argue that women who get abortions are putting themselves before a 'clump of cells' that will one day go on to have their own long story of life. that clump of cells is going to become a child, and by removing it you put yourself before it. im staunchly pro-choice, but this is a weird take.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 11:06 PM
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in america. in some states. not where i am.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 11:02 PM
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she gets to decide whether to raise the child and if she wants a portion of my paycheck? damn, can i get some of this privilege? being able to make important choices about my life sounds wonderful.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 11:00 PM
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not if feminism has its way
/r/MensRights29/06/22 10:58 PM
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so many people jump in like that because it gets ignored when feminists do it. in fact, go on, you're a part of askfeminists, right? go ahead and make a post/comment there about feminist Generalisations. use the definition for misogyny you just used, and ask them if that makes the majority of feminists misandrist for distrusting men (e.g., many of women fear being attacked if a man is nearby). see how well that goes over. but in terms of how relevant it is to OP's question, i suppose you have a …
/r/MensRights29/06/22 08:11 PM
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feminism has a much wider reach and has ingrained brainwashing/indoctrination/feminist progranda into every element of society. one result of this is its much easier for the wider population to ignore misandrist femimists and cover over them/pretend they don't exact. because the MRM doesn't carry the same weight as feminism, the misogynists go much more noticed. it also helps feminists have ensured misogyny is taken much more seriously than misandry.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 08:04 PM
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sounds like feminism. seriously though, why is it socially acceptable to defend feminism from the misandrist parts because "that's a minority, they're just radicals, that's not all feminists" and so on, but it's okay to villify all MRA's because there's some gross misogynists (and undeniably there is)? i will, at least acknowledge, im glad your examples weren't just anti-feminist comments, they were legitimately generalisations of women. too many people use anti-feminist sentiment to prove we're…
/r/MensRights29/06/22 08:00 PM
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Wrong. Misogyny means hatred, dislike or mistrust of women. All of the above quotes qualify. so practically every feminist is a misandrist because they distrust men?
/r/MensRights29/06/22 07:55 PM
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you should have asked them if they wanted to compare the mumber of deleted/mass downvoted sexist comments too. just to add insult to injury.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 07:53 PM
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nah, they'd call that financial abuse.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 07:51 PM
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wdym would have? im fairly confident this has actually happened on at least 3 different occasions. rightfully so
/r/MensRights29/06/22 07:41 PM
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i asked for examples of doing the things you said. you gave none. brilliant work girl. face palm & slow clap but hey, i also asked you not to be rude about things, and you're still giving snarky responses.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 07:39 PM
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you're silly. I've already corrected myself twice in later comments. and the entire logic of mandatory vasectomies for 'revenge' of RvW is silly. and even if the analogy is off, the point is still clear.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 07:36 PM
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I just don't see it as a good comparison to abortion because there's no mandate by the government for or against circumcision this is part of the proboem. there should be a mandate against it. but i see why you think it's a poor comparison. What are foreskin face creams? I feel like I'm missing a reference. you're definitely missing a reference lol. its cool. many face creams ate literally made from a baby's foreskin. like, foreskin is harvested just for profits. because of this, they try to mak…
/r/MensRights29/06/22 04:58 PM
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disproving the health benefits of MGM (with sources) more sources than you could want about the harm of MGM
/r/MensRights29/06/22 04:37 PM
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Get an education. Even if you have to educate yourself. got one. don't turn into an asshole. Stop with the raging hypocrisy and hold yourself accountable. Where's the hypocrisy? Stop putting words in people’s mouths and assuming they must believe certain things just because they disagree with your premise what words did i put in your mouth? the only thing i pinned on you was defending genital mutilation, which you have actively been doing. the things i said made sense. you just don't have a resp…
/r/MensRights29/06/22 04:30 PM
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Circumcision is not something you can not blame on women. how come? considering its women's faults and men's fault. you don't want to hold women accountable for anything. i refuse to absolve anyone of accountability. Vaccines debates have proven no one has bodily autonomy which is somehow relevant to the problem? so i can just say this whenever someone is complaining about abortion or FGM? Men are without a doubt keeping this practice alive in the US precisely because it’s not the human rights w…
/r/MensRights29/06/22 03:49 PM
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i heard it. it was "i hate all men". says a lot. wonder who hurt her.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 06:41 AM
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"grow up" the person who hates an entire gender... the person who proudly calls herself a man-hater.. huh.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 06:39 AM
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apparently they think feminists are traitors too if they hold a dissenting opinion like pro-life.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 06:37 AM
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There's r/menslib which is basically just a more moderate version of this sub, but not not really a debate forum. menslib is not a more moderate version of this sub. it's a more enslaved and dominated version of this sub, who tries to fix our issues by fixing women's issues. the feminism sub (and many others) are for fixing women's issues. menslib posting about the pay gap is all i need to know its a sub about maintaining feminism's public image, and little else. this sub actually cares about me…
/r/MensRights29/06/22 04:05 AM
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i do it to be nice as well. but it's unreasonable to expect 50% of the population to do it. people are free to do it if they want, and i think the asshole thing to do is expect half the world to be subservient to your demands. people are free to do as much as they feel comfortable with. and asking people to do it is one thing. but many people actually demand/feel entitled to men acquiesing to every desire of women. refusing is not an asshole thing to do.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 04:01 AM
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Mutilating is not the word and you know it. mutilating is definitely the word and i know it. circumcision is, by definition, mutilation. femimists and media just pretend like it isn't. and sure men do it too, but so do women, but it always get blamed on men. women are never held accountable for cutting their sons. as for the comparison? im not the one making it, so i honestly don't care. but women have enjoyed abortion for 50 years. makes sense people would be frustrated we've not made a single …
/r/MensRights29/06/22 03:54 AM
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its parents that are taking away a male babies bodily autonomy. with RvW its the government. to an extent, you're right. just a shame feminists always deflect by saying its "men causing it", when in actuality mothers are getting their sons circumcised too. buttt... nothing prevents the government legislating against this mutilation, they just refuse to cuz "mah profits from foreskin face creams". the UK government specifically instructed judges to be more lenient on female offenders, that's one …
/r/MensRights29/06/22 03:49 AM
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no but women are mutilating their sons, so...
/r/MensRights29/06/22 03:43 AM
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. I suggest starting some advocacy groups to ban circumcision they exist.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 03:42 AM
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from your first comment: And the same doctors often deny such operations to women because of their age or because they do not have children yet. actually, this is exactly what happens to men too. A vasectomy operation is simpler than a tubal ligation operation. your point being? if women don't want to get pregnant, they're equally responsible as men to take preventative measures. this means she gets a tubal litigation, just like a man should (in your opinion) get a vasectomy. now personally, I'd…
/r/MensRights29/06/22 02:40 AM
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someone else said about hysterectomies, and i corrected myself. i believe a tubal litigation is closer. so if women don't want to get pregnant, a tubal litigation is the answer.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 12:59 AM
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so... those people celebrating when men die in war, or demanding mandatory vasectomies now? there's a million examples of this. all those women are abusers?
/r/MensRights28/06/22 11:27 PM
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What is so difficult about doing such a little like crossing the street to make someone’s life more comfortable? because maybe i need to turn in a different direction on that side of the street in one minute. so i should cross the road just because there's a woman around, only to re-cross the road, and walk towards the woman to turn down the way i need to go? (both times putting myself in actual, though extremely minimal danger).
/r/MensRights28/06/22 11:25 PM
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