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| 1 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)Really? No not really. At its core there are actually 2 direct parties. The mother and the baby. Technically there are 3, but people always seem to ignore a possible father when it comes to abortion. It's more a 'freedom to do what you want with your own body vs religious fundaments and views' A woman's right to do with her body. The man cannot dictate what she can do and neither can the state. The man can give his opinion and the state can place safeguards regarding the procedure, but neither c… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 09:59 PM |
| -2 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)And the Clintons and Canadian gov't convinced the Bush regime to invade Afghanistan solely for their feminist agenda? Yeah, makes sense. You ask questions like "How is feminism anti male" Actually I never did! You need some gingko biloba pills. :) You want an answer that encompasses entire swaths of society, without having to do some reading? Actually, going through all the sources I have received so far at the moment. Nice assumption there. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 09:47 PM |
| 1 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)No link. You were too lazy to make it a link. I am there now and it is a blog just like everything else hosted by blogspot with links to collections of blog posts in flash form. You are so angry. :( Do you need to talk about your issues? | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)I said that feminists treat certain crimes with zeal knowing full well that it is impossible to do so, as that is unrealistic And that diminishes the fact that their efforts can be effective at preventing the crimes they wish to prevent. If you do not acknowledge that their efforts can prevent some crimes and you say that they cannot prevent all crimes, what other conclusion can I draw? | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 09:12 PM |
| -3 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)Yes, that is why the original text had a link. (And links specifically go to a single address, which happened to be a specific wiki and happened to be a specific section of a specific article on that specific wiki in this case.) | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 08:56 PM |
| -1 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)Yes and saying that one should stop trying to prevent all crimes for the reason is black-and-white thinking. That is exactly what you implied here: That aside, I find it curious how feminists treat rape with such a zeal that they think that they're one day going to be able to completely eliminate it. There will always be criminals. I could just the same say why it makes no sense that you have such zeal for men's rights when they will never have them perfectly. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 08:52 PM |
| -2 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)Laws do not dictate social hierarchies in most societies. Besides, if you have never seen a family where the father is the chief decision maker and keeps the kids in line, you probably have just never met anyone's family or watched TV/movies. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 08:50 PM |
| -9 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)Ah yes, the Imperialistic impulses of the Feminist movement. Sorry, I don't share your zeal for exporting this hateful ideology, and I see no reason why those of us in the West should impose Feminism...even if it IS being used as justification for invasion and war...I guess just one or two more evils that Feminism does... And the feminist war would be . . . ? Ironic you would say this. I have taken recently to asking minority and gay men that I know one simple question: "When you experience disc… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 08:48 PM |
| -2 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)where these HIGHLY comlex issues are properly explained. Link me then. If you are actually a men's advocate, you would be happy to do so. Otherwise, you argue for selfish reasons. That's 'false compromise'. You're dead wrong on all counts. Why would I cede ground that I know for a fact is mine? Probably because you have not demonstrated such, especially when the burden of proof is upon you. mensmagazine.blogspot.com So if you have blogged about this stuff a thousand times, why not just link me t… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 08:42 PM |
| -8 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)Ummm, which feminists? Just because someone might have said something somewhere does not mean that everyone believes it. Additionally, I never said such. Also, can you tell me for sure that there are no social organizations that you can call patriarchies? Will you tell me you have never seen a household where the father is the clear leader and authority figure? | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 08:37 PM |
| -1 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)It was an analogy. Go back and read the last two posts. Read the part where I said it was an analogy to your point as means to illustrating the logical fallacy. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 08:34 PM |
| -15 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)US Department of Labor (2009 study) http://www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf Worth noting: Prepared for the DOL and prepared by CONSAD. I will read it (and the other sources provided, though). Do you have any idea how tiny the amount of Fortune 500 CEOs and high-ranking politicians is in comparison to the total population of, say, America. Are you even serious. No, I mean, really? First, using your figure, you are talking about only 3 Americans so I guess yo… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 08:31 PM |
| -9 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)[Why] can't one just say "Men get X just cause they're men" and have that X be obvious? Because first and second wave feminists have already taken care of the obvious issues in developed countries. I bet if you performed that exercise in, say, Sudan or Cambodia you would still see a lot of obvious things of this nature. What is left in developed countries are the more systemic and subtle problems facing women. Take, as an analogy, black rights. Would you say that racism is now gone because emanc… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 08:04 PM |
| -5 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)Slippery slope? Not at all. I was making an analogy to show the absurdity of your black and white thinking. How slimy of you to avoid the rest of the post, as well. I am leaving it for BolshevikPuppet since it is between you two. How slimy of you to resort to an ad hominem. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 07:59 PM |
| -2 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)You are only stereotyping me and refusing to rebut my arguments because you are unable to either show that I am wrong or reconcile where your beliefs are wrong. The fact is that you are insulating yourself from contrarian opinions because you do not give a fuck about being right or even realistic. You can say that I cannot be convinced, but you will see that I have conceded some ground to you since we began. You are simply too angry that you cannot claim all the ground and too inflexible to admi… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 07:53 PM |
| -7 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)That aside, I find it curious how feminists treat rape with such a zeal that they think that they're one day going to be able to completely eliminate it. There will always be criminals. Good thought. We might as well get rid of police officers and stop prosecuting murderers, child sex offenders, domestic abusers, etc. by that logic. What is the use of preventing crimes if you cannot prevent them all? | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 07:32 PM |
| -4 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)Hey, you are the one who was unable to rebut here. ;) | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 07:25 PM |
| -8 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)If "male privelege" is so pervasive, why does finding it require a search? See: I linked to a section providing what was asked for. If someone feels so inclined, they can easily go down to the references for the source material. Herp derp. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 07:24 PM |
| -3 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)The abortion issue is pretty much US-related and has more to do with religion than it has to do with male/female rights. Are you delirious? At its core it is women's rights clashing with religious rights. You're comparing an issue of the US with one in the middle of the desert? Not hard to win that way: 'hey look that guy is poor' 'not as poor as some guy I know in Africa' Right, since we live so far away from them, we should not care. So for some reason you are highly concerned about males circ… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 07:22 PM |
| -12 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)well-debunked wage gap Citation? I have already asked this once in this thread and was given nothing but "google it yourself." But really, I do not care for a thousand blog posts and Yahoo Answers threads so please actually provide me your source for this. "glass ceiling" tied into the fact that less than 0.00001% of men are CEOs, high-ranked politicians, etc, and that the number of men who are so outnumber women I think you made a typo . . . assuming you mean "0.000001% of women" I would have t… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 07:04 PM |
| -10 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)Notice how I said "check out wiki as a start." I linked to a section providing what was asked for. If someone feels so inclined, they can easily go down to the references for the source material. Same with the book. ;) PS: You look like a jackass when your only response is "I don't like your sources!" | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 06:13 PM |
| -3 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)Men do not have the right to reproductive self determination at all, and as regards this subject simply have NO rights, property or otherwise. Lack of a male analog does not mean this is not a problem for women. All I see this is building an argument towards vagina envy. Can't say I personally feel that way, though. circumcision False dichotomy. Yes it is a problem that it is unnecessarily practiced on males in the US. Hell, you are talking to someone who was circumcised at five due to complicat… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 06:10 PM |
| -4 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)There is also, interestingly enough, a lot of people who were brainwashed by anti-feminist propaganda in the last two or three decades. Some of it is tied to a yearning to return to more "traditional" gender roles and family values, which explains why it is so popular among conservatives, especially neocons. If you actually have any vested interest in the subject, check out Female Chauvanist Pigs. As for male privilege, check out wiki as a start. As you will see, there are people who have tried … | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 06:55 AM |
| -2 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)The two are not mutually exclusive. There are none of those left for women. But a shit-ton left for men. Efforts made across the country to deny women their Constitutional right to privacy (i.e. abortion) Genital mutilation Treatment of women in certain cultures (which can be really touchy subjects) (e.g. Muslim culture) Rape culture Treatment of women in the armed service What are those left for men? (I do not mean this sarcastically; I legitimately am curious, both as a guy and someone who wis… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 06:41 AM |
| 0 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)You ask me for citation while giving none yourself, how brave. Well, I asked for citations on specific topics on which I withheld judgment (namely: your claim that all the pay gap can be explained by confounding variables and your claim regarding how many men/women are in the engineering and medical fields.) As for not providing citations myself, please refer back to my post for the links included in it. I'm not going to spent time browsing for the info of where I read it...You can look it up if… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 06:31 AM |
| -2 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)Same to you bud! Thanks for the inciteful and worthwhile post! I appreciate your input. Really. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 03:40 AM |
| -1 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)It is really hard to debate with you if you are not going to cite yourself and are going to make sweeping generalizations. From the same studies that drew the 77 cent conclusion, if you blended in the factors mentioned the pay gap goes close to 0, not entirely, but very close indeed. Citation? Paternity leave is a legal right (at least here it is), but this does not mean they'll use it. I need to admit an error in my statement. Where I am from (USA), there is paternity leave. My bad, we do have … | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 02:58 AM |
| 4 | Re: On 'How to silence a feminist' (posted at /r/women)Just a few qualms: While I agree that the oft-cited "77 cents on the dollar" line leaves a lot to be desired (as said: the study leaves too many confounding variables to show any causative relationship), recognizing this is not enough to show that there may not be a pay issue between the sexes. Take, for example, the current class action lawsuit against Wal-Mart claiming sex discrimination (namely lower wages for women for comparable positions and intentionally choosing men using their sex as on… | /r/MensRights | 09/01/11 01:47 AM |
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