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A balding, overweight guy with bad skin isn't an average 24 year old tho. You are trying to use that as a comparison when he just aged poorly. That isn't how most 24 year old men look.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 11:22 AM
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Being extroverted helps but women approach you if you are attractive enough. I've had women approach me and seen women approach another good looking friend of mine. Idk I just disagree. Yeah women usually aren't going to something alone but that is just an open invitation to be bothered all night. Going in a group tho some single women will go approach men to talk to seen it multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 11:11 AM
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It's called being taken advantage of and manipulated because he was in love...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 03:09 AM
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Which helps show feminists are there too serve and address women's issues. They don't care about men and actively shut down attempts to help them. This is mainstream feminism. Yes some feminists care about men and want equality and think men's issues matter and that they are allies but that isn't the norm. It's on feminists to fix their own movement if they want to be percieved differently. She is a notable feminist for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:59 PM
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They don't though and through experience I can tell you that if anything you are pushing your views and being controlling. I had some amazing experiences with older ppl when I was young and I'm glad you weren't there to act like I wasn't an adult. You don't have the right to tell ppl what they can or can't do as long as it's legal
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 12:44 PM
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I think unwanted opinions are a form of being controlling. Like how ppl judge LGBT relationships. Her close circle can give advice but I don't see a problem. I slept with older ppl when I was that age and had no bad effects. In fact those were prolly some of the ppl that treated me better. Ppl my age def caused me more emotional and financial trouble
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 12:37 PM
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Because the point was broke college kids can't engage in princess treatment. Taco Bell doesn't qualify.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:34 PM
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No it's clear you don't. Calling taco bell princess treatment is enough. You are reaching. So there's no point anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:03 PM
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When I said you don't have one yet, I am talking about in this hypothetical situation... Nope taco bell isn't princess treatment. All we have established is you don't know princess treatment. No man is complaining about buy taco bell lmao. You can't get anyone to believe that at all. It's clear you will lie and say anything because you care more about trying to be right that the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:57 PM
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So it isn't about investing in a relationship like you said earlier since you don't have one yet... No even broke college kids wouldn't consider taco bell princess treatment... No princess treatment is just demanding to be spoiled with material things. Literally every example from someone other than you is a material thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:48 PM
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No lol princess treatment is expecting that before you are in a relationship and to be spoiled. Watch the video... Also no one would consider taco bell princess treatment lol... Guarantee if we ask ppl online if that is princess treatment most will day no. I don't know anyone that doesn't buy things for their partner in a relationship. They wouldn't have to call it princess treatment if that is what it is because that is the norm...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:43 PM
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Not really you can do plenty of kind things that don't require money at all. Never been a broke college kid? My gf and I used to do plenty of free/cheap things for each other. You are just either dumb or intentionally missing the point. I'm not mad at capitalism at all. I also don't mind spending $$ on a partner I am explaining to you what princess treatment is and you are trying to act like the focus isn't $$ when it is and the video says as much... The title is literally: You deserve to have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:35 PM
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Even in OPs example it is a man buying things. No one would have a problem if the definition was just being kind and trying to make your partner happy... If you don't know how the terms are used online then this exchange is worthless you need to go learn how the term is used. Even in the video OP references it is about getting a man to pay for things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:27 PM
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There isn't one definition but you are missing the point. But if king treatment became popular online and encouraged getting women to do all the cooking and cleaning... Women would def have a problem with that. Similarly princess treatment online is known for spoiling a woman by buying her a ton of things. Someone could say princess treatment doesn't mean buying a woman all these material things but that isn't the common online use of the term.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:23 PM
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Exactly and the reason men don't like it is because it would be like men saying they deserve for the women to do all the cooking and cleaning. King treatment... Men and women don't like content that creates poor partners. It's pretty obvious....
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:47 PM
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You can choose to not date men who watch porn but stop judging other ppls lifestyles. If men wanna do that no one should have to hear women's judgements on that unless asked... No one cares about your standards rn that's a form of judgement. No one here is trying to date you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 06:56 PM
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Personally I would steer clear. I have plenty of options though so why would I take a risk when I don't have too. I think it comes down to how many options you have. The smart decision is to avoid trouble so if you can then you should.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 06:40 PM
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Even around adults I don't think I should have to see nudes unless I am in a porn space or something. But on Twitter they are everywhere. To me it's a form of sexual assault. I am seeing nudes when I didn't consent or ask for it. It's like a guy flashing ppl.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:32 PM
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Someone being dumb or easily deceived isn't a defense or excuse. They are taking advantage or vulnerable and desparate men. If being deceptive wasn't part of the business they wouldn't need to use deceptive claims. They could just be straight up about what is happening
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:29 PM
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Yeah sure but that's your catch all to feel entitled enough to demand anything that's the point
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 09:08 PM
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It's a partnership they should be providing for the family together. What if he gets injured or sick as well? If it's a partnership no one person is providing they are doing it together and that's most couples these days. If she is pregnant yeah he helps out and same if he needs it. They put $$ into the kids, house and family together. You get further with a partner than someone that can't contribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 08:56 PM
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If this was true we wouldn't have so many women complaining about men not doing it on social media. Yeah I can flip genders and say similar things but it is def entitled and toxic. Go on ask women or something similar and ask if a woman should do what it takes to sexually/financially satisfy her dream guy. They will call it out as entitled and toxic because it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 08:54 PM
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It's a different time. Most ppl think they should be partners and provide together for the family in a variety of ways. I mean I could just say if he is her dream guy she would do anything for him too. Its just dumb logic intended to manipulate. Also love shouldn't be about what you can do for me... Which is all you talk about
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 08:46 PM
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No you are saying if you don't do these things it means she isn't your dream girl and you don't like her that's toxic and manipulative. Men could use that to corce women to do things they really don't want as well. It's acting entitled. Men and women can like however they want. Just because he doesn't spend how you want or she does have sex how you want doesn't mean she or he doesn't like you. You can have your wants that's fine but you can't use it to manipulate ppl to act how you want. Saying …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 08:45 PM
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This take just makes you sound old. Times have changed men don't think that anymore that is why you have so many women on social media complaining and saying men should do these things... Because they aren't anymore. If men were socialized to do them still there wouldn't be a need to complain about them not happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 02:36 PM
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Nah acting entitled is toxic no matter how you spin it. There is a difference between saying men should and I want. Saying women should sleep with men is entitled. Saying I want a women I can sleep with isn't. Language matters and what he is describing is toxic behavior from women and you shouldn't be defending it at all
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 02:32 PM
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Yeah that is how I view it. Sounds like they just started dating so he doesn't really know her yet. People are more willing to be themselves online and like things and show support for stuff they wouldn't in public because they think there is no judgement. She obviously doesn't know he can see that stuff and he is getting a peek into how she thinks. To me yeah that is a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 02:27 PM
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That isn't an excuse everyone grows up and doesn't stay a child. If you are raised around racism and taught it's ok as a child that doesn't excuse it as an adult. You should have learned and formed your own thoughts by then
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 01:41 PM
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This just sounds like an argument on why father's are better parents... Just funny that is how it reads
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 01:37 PM
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No there is a difference between paying your part and being a provider. Men are usually expected to pay their part and then some. You aren't a provider unless you pay more than your part. If women were ok being the provider like men then we would see more women going for younger men. They want men to pay more still. And finally older women just cost more. Trying to start a family is way more expensive than just providing for a woman in her 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 02:04 PM
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Women don't provide for the most part. The most important part of that statement was the ability to provide that lifestyle for someone else. You skipped it bevuase as a woman you know they don't wanna provide. So no women are not offering the same thing at all. They just bring themselves. Not their income, career, etc. Do some women have great careers? Yes of course, but how many of those women are happy providing for a man? Paying for his dates and to put a roof over his head? Men might be more…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:54 PM
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Yeah is just OP being manipulative to encourage certain behavior. I don't think sleeping around is good or bad. Pursuing sex isn't bad at all. According to OP any man or woman that has poor dating history is a bad person and anyone who pursues someone with poor dating history isn't a good person. I mean that pretty much means the vast majority of people aren't good at all. Just a stupid conclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 07:51 PM
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Well your post title says high value. You are using both interchangeably. I agree if you are a 6.5 woman a 6.5 with the rest you said is a high quality match but he isn't high value or high quality in general. He won't have the options a man that is a 9 would have. I am talking marriage too. Looks always matter and are the biggest indicator of value. If you are a high value enough women you can have it all. Same with a man. I never said they didn't get sex or they couldn't. A 6.5 in no world is …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 10:39 PM
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You can't be a 6.5 SMV and a high value man. If anything SMV is the most important component in that list and I'm saying that as someone that makes your income requirement no problem. I have friends that make good $$ and those that don't but SMV is always the most important aspect by far. Women aren't as big of gold diggers as ppl like to act they are. If a guy can't attract attractive women he isn't a high value man. If a woman can't do vice versa same for her and not being a high value woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:22 PM
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Ehh you gotta make more $$ because usually your wife and kids depend on you. So is being pressured to work more and make more a benefit? Your quality of life is likely the same but now you are working more hours because you have dependants. Sounds pretty terrible to me. As for health being pushed to be healthy is good in some ways but bad in others. If I'm being pressured to party less to me that is a less fulfilling life. I wanna hang with my bros and get drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 01:58 PM
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I usually work out alone but having another guy there can just help push you to go further. The competitiveness just helps both of you and in the end is just for fun not meant to be taken so srsly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:52 AM
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Yep I agree. Boring or interesting is subjective. He says league of legends is not interesting and mainstream trash but there are plenty of ppl that have built a whole friendship or relationship around that for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:45 PM
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You are a fanatic. Honestly your opinion doesn't matter. You will blindly support no matter what. You won't ever see things objectively. You wanna believe that it's cuz Harris is a women and she should be held to a lower standard then she currently is idc. We have women in pretty much every other position and just had a VP but yes let's jump to sexism. So now I can't be critical or it's sexism? Even though I voted for her 😂 ok buddy! And this is why I hate politics. You got crazies on both sides…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 09:39 PM
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No not all ads are manipulative. Some are but some are just informative. You just sound crazy and you trying to hold them to the same standard as Trump is actually just insulting them. I doubt they themselves think they should be held to the same standard...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 09:15 PM
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It's still manipulation... Which is bad no matter how you slice it. Except ppl expect Trump to do shitty things. So all you are whining about is everyone should have just as low expectations for Harris and the Dems as they do the republicans and Trump. Yeah I'm not gonna get behind that and that sounds crazy to me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:22 PM
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It is manipulating men. Which I think is just as bad. Except those have been called out as being damaging. I have yet to hear young men calling out beer commercials as "shitting on men." Why are we making excuses? You agree it is a bad commercial. Men rarely advocate for themselves in general in any unified fashion. That isn't how society or the patriarchy has trained them. I'm asking why do these arguments consistently consider even the slightest negativity from any "leftist" to be a monumental…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:56 PM
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No, it's saying this election carries significant implications for women so they're not going to respond well to political apathy. Ok but that message has been said in better ways without the manipulative edge... Beer commercials, on the other hand, are much closer to what you're describing yet I haven't seen anyone declare that they're "shitting on men." Beer commercials aren't a standard we should be holding ppl too. Just because others are manipulative doesn't mean it is ok. There is an entir…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:50 PM
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It's belittling men by saying they are easily manipulated and will do anything to get laid. Is it partly true sure but it is insulting to point out. I voted for her but didn't see that ad but would feel insulted if I did. Also it just reinforces the social implications that men need to pursue sex and those that don't are losers. Reinforced the patriarchy if anything... The ad is about weaponizing sex to manipulate men. Don't see how that isn't insulting... And a presidential candidate should hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 04:26 PM
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Doesn't sound very healthy to me. How they defined healthy would be worth taking into account
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:54 PM
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Yep regardless of what other ppl are saying this is what I've seen and why so many older men in my life have warned against marriage. There is a reason it is usually women promoting marriage and men warning against it...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:50 PM
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Well I think a huge part of that is that women and men are treated differently when hurt. Women generally have a larger support system and ppl feel more sympathy and empathy for women and help them work through issues. That isn't true for men so the hurt sometimes never really gets resolved in a healthy way and causes issues even years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 07:10 AM
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You need to argue why something is good enough. Unless of course this is just rage bait. Enlisting in the military and taking credit will much have larger affects on your life than a relationship usually
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:14 AM
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Living longer doesn't really matter if your quality of living has gone down. Men should hold out on marriage until it is changed to be more beneficial for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/24 01:54 AM
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Blame society for conditioning men to think they don't have value unless they are needed. Even dating rituals like men pursuing and paying for dates reinforces that. Society treats women like they are the catch through conditioning that's why men focus on feeling needed and control like you said. It's a reflection of the role they have been conditioned to fullfil. Too often feminism and society has focused on helping women be free of gender roles but unless you break men free of their gender rol…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 08:08 AM
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Hormones aren't a valid excuse. Men are hornier than women because of hormones doesn't mean we should excuse toxic behavior...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 05:53 PM
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They are pointing out the double standards and rampant misandry. Wanting to look through someone's phone is also an accusation of cheating and it is excused is the point...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 05:53 PM
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Then they can find a different way to get there
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:11 AM
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Why would you need women pilots? It's isn't like the pilots interact physically with the passengers much at all. I agree tho it is sexist and tbh I would only be in favor if we had separate planes. It would let me avoid kids since they would mostly be with the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:58 AM
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Nah it sounds like she has standards for herself. My let's me know if I am outta shape and so doesy gf and friends. I wanna know. I aim to stay in great shape year round and ppl letting me know I don't look in as good of shape as I used to motivates me. If someone is so fragile that someone saying they are overweight is that hurtful they should just fix the problem...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:03 AM
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No I think that's their entitlement just going out of control. Like a guy expecting sex is a forgone conclusion after a date. Everyone acts entitled about certain things and most ppl don't really recognize them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:09 AM
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Women feel entitled to marriage would still apply to your scenario. You agreeing a subset of women do this doesn't mean the wider set doesn't. It is still an entitlement and being in a ltr doesn't entitle you to marriage at all. Treat like a wife is meaningless. It is like a guy acting entitled to sex because a girl was flirting with him. You don't even need to be in a ltr before plenty of women are fantasizing and acting like marriage is eventually a forgone conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 02:01 AM
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Yes obviously it is women pressuring the men they are in relationships with for marriage but that is still entitlement. If he wanted to marry he would be asking already to marry. That is also a huge entitlement. Marriage is a life changing decision
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:50 AM
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Yeah but that's still an entitlement and plenty of women pressure men into marriage. Ppl aren't honest. You weren't right there. You reframed and changed the scenario. No one is entitled to honesty as you yourself just showed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:46 AM
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Societal expectations are just a form of entitlement. Entitlement doesn't have to be special privilege... Being a male isn't special half the world is male. Plenty believe being male comes with entitlement. Expecting anyone to do anything for your benefit is entitlement. Also social contracts change and they have definitely given certain groups entitlement in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 01:42 AM
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Pretty much. Anyone offended by the question is basically admitting they don't bring anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 09:33 PM
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In any interview you should also be interviewing the company. I ask compensation, benefits, work environment, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 09:32 PM
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That's exactly what I said... Just like women can be mysogynists to themselves, men can be misandrists to themselves. But also if you are spreading the misandry that men are saying that also makes you misandrist. Same as if someone spreads mysogyny women spout they are a mysogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:55 PM
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I never said it doesn't happen. I said internalized misandry is a thing. Men spout misandry and dehumanize themselves all the time because they grew up with misandry and have internalized it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:40 PM
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Internalized misandry is a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:04 PM
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But it doesn't take much to have the option to leave. You don't need to be a boss babe to afford that. Most women can support themselves these days and do so...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:38 PM
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Ok those men are insecure who cares? Why does this matter? No one is entitled to ppl liking them. If most men want a submissive or dependent women I guess that's their preference
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:36 PM
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But like you guys had no lead up or build up? Idk too many guys that would work on tbh. I just think most ppl would need some flirting and getting to know each other and stuff like that Cool fair enough tho I assumed because that is so out of the ordinary and never have really seen or heard it done like that
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:16 PM
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Well how else do you get rejected without any flirting or anything? I'm curious
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:06 PM
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Yeah sounds like we had some miscommunication but we agree about trying not to mislead ppl which is the important bit
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:04 PM
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Ok cool then why disagree with me at all? If nothing was ever there then there is no problem. If this is just you secretly liking them that's fine. You said they rejected you so I assumed there was something there
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:58 PM
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You are at fault for leading them on. I could use the same shitty excuse for letting girls think we could have a relationship when I know I want something casual. Why defend so hard being a shitty person? When you can choose to be a good one?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:55 PM
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If you are flirting or they are flirting with you and you aren't shutting it down then it is because you know you guys have a different idea of where this could go
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:52 PM
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I would tell ppl before they develop feelings or anything if I just wanted something casual. Last girl I was flirting with we discussed how we should keep things casual and it takes me a while to develop feelings and want something srs and I would let them know if that changes. We hooked up and were both on the same page. I've had girls upset I didn't disclose I wanted something casual right away and they were right and so now I do. Same applies here, should disclose as early as you can so you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:49 PM
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Explaining you wouldn't want a sexual relationship isn't talking about sexual stuff. If you can't even say that you sound too immature to be in a relationship. Leading them to a relationship without sex without telling them is leading them on...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:07 PM
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No but it is manipulative and leading them on because culturally that is the norm. It's fine to want something different but you should let them know. Similar to a guy dating a woman and calling her his girlfriend and seeing someone else. She wouldn't expect that and if he didn't inform her it is manipulative and leading her on because culturally it wouldn't be the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 11:10 AM
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Internalized misandry. Men are taught and conditioned from a young age that men can't be victims
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:58 PM
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Ppl stare all the time tho. That's pretty normal and I don't see why it's even a problem. I've had women/men who like me stare or guys who like my car stare or ask to take pictures. Never really been such an issue that it was anything more than notable. If someone is that bothered by staring it just tells me they don't have real problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:46 PM
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This is why ppl think you are lame lol... Plenty of successful ppl do both. You can work hard and party hard
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:22 PM
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Because you don't take chances and you don't party then
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:21 PM
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I mean if it's about words, women harm and spread misandry all the time as well. Plenty of times women stating their issues with men is just an excuse to practice misandry
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:29 PM
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About as dramatic as the bear stuff...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:14 PM
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Yeah but you are only thinking about what's good for you it worked out for you. In most situations being a step dad is just a terrible deal and situation for men. You aren't thinking about all the times it went poorly for men because you likely don't care. Normal men do think this way... This is why men are hesitant to raise someone else's kids or date women with kids. Even women are reluctant to raise someone else's kids. If you have to try and shame someone to agree that just shows you have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 03:55 PM
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I mean showing no empathy and then wanting empathy isn't it... If you don't care about other ppl's issues why should they care about the issues you present?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 05:29 PM
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Depends on how though and why you are comparing. If it's to dismiss and minimize it isn't empathy and in fact the opposite. Why do they need to be compared? You could have defended why women need to be cautious and at the same time empathize with men's concerns. Instead you chose to minimize and dismiss
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:18 PM
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Both concerns are valid tho. Using one concern to dismiss another one isn't empathy. It's invalidating and the opposite of empathy. We can take both srsly. Also reducing it just down to embarrassment is minimizing. Not empathetic at all...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:31 PM
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I mean it's like that with even feminism and that's more of a choesive movement. They don't distance themselves from the misandrists and man hate. That's why I understand women who dislike RP stuff as do I as a movement. I also dislike feminism for the same reason as a movement. The truth is hate spreads hate. Like the poster earlier said men see women treating them like shit and not caring and so it makes men do the same. Same for women. You will never fix it unless you can get both groups to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 08:54 AM
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I agree and I don't know why so many men do it. But men regularly do stupid things for their partner like make their life completely about her friend group instead of his.... Leaves him in a terrible spot eventually. Like it's obvious they never were that interested in kids but many men will do whatever to make their spouse happy. Some men do really genuinely want kids and it's easy to see the difference. Both choices are ok but you shouldn't have kids unless you want them. And you shouldn't pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:50 AM
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If they don't want custody it's pretty clear they don't want kids. Men have no trouble taking care of and making time for pets or cars or computers or things they want. This shows how poorly women can read men. You really think this level of disinterest means men want kids... You could make an argument that the systemic issues men face with regards to custody prevents them from trying to get custody. That could be true. But it isn't like having custody even requires you to be a parent. Plenty of…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:46 AM
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Yeah look at who fights for custody more often and it's fairly obvious... Men are willing to be fathers but women want to be mothers that's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 02:37 PM
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Yeah and this is the basic response. Why should I be burdened with trying to even out these inequalities? I'll just find a partner that won't blame me for my gender. Also, OP just largely ignores that most men don't want kids anywhere near as much as women. Most men have kids for their partner because she wants them. That should count as a ton of voluntary work I did to make her happy. If my partner is gonna use it against me I would rather just skip kids. Then she can't complain about motherhoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:33 PM
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Well I see it as two things. I wouldn't call those men misandrists because they are comedians and men. I personally just take it as a joke not as something they actually believe. Basically I doubt men are taking those comedians srsly like that. And also I think men have a lot of internalized misandry so are more accepting of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:32 AM
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Being critical or sexist of men or women will always come better from the gender you are maligning. That's always how it is. Men get more of a license to talk shit about men and same with women and talking shit about women. It's because we know them being that gender it's highly unlikely they are a total sexist
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:30 AM
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I don't see that. I see mysogyny from women celebrated by men and misandry from men celebrated by women but I rarely see men celebrate misandry or women celebrate mysogyny. Men and women even have ways to shame it. See simping or pick me language...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 12:07 AM
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And they could just be getting angry because they are hurt or insulted... Same reason women get all angry when they hear men spouting mysogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:28 AM
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I think you have the answers to your questions. For point one you acknowledge the situation and that guys would like to avoid it but not women. Why is that? Why does it seem like guys want to avoid that but not women? These laws are not favorable to men. Men aren't going to actively choose to get screwed. So you will see less commitment from men because they get punished for taking the risk by the govt and society. We don't see men shy away from relationships. We see men shy away from marriage a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:57 AM
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It means generally women want marriage and kids more than men. The men that want it the most are usually the men with the least options because that way they can secure a partner. Men with options aren't as concerned with securing a partner. They are concerned with picking wrongly or losing easy access to other options. Marriage traps men in ways relationships don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 03:39 AM
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So men shouldn't pay then. Also I spend more than that on just my jacket...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:28 AM
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You could easily just wear something nice like that because that is what you are feeling or comfortable with
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:25 AM
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Yes she did she assumed men who go to the gym are obsessed and bitch about protein
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:59 PM
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Ehh she is insulting everyone who lives a fitness lifestyle just because she is too lazy to do so. So she deserved it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 10:48 PM
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Damn you owned her yep exactly. They are just being manipulative. They really don't care about ppl overseas. They just hate they don't have control
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:54 AM
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Yet we see women complaining. They should be happy and encouraging these men to leave. I see the same thing with porn. Women saying men shouldn't be allowed to watch it and it ruins them and stuff like that. Women just hate it when men find ways to avoid their control.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:53 AM
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Low smv are gonna get transactional relationships even in the US. At least they are getting a better deal overseas
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:48 AM
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Yeah I meant it's pretty obvious based on the history of women trying to control men they will try and control men's access to sexbots
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 12:08 AM
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Nah that isn't true. We see so many women having with issues porn. Yeah but yet women still try and shame men and think we need their permission for age gap relationships, to be a fuckboy or passport bro or even have standards. Women always wanna try and chime in and shame men into submission.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:55 PM
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Who said otherwise... Why don't u calm the fuck down. Jumping there from the context of AI sexbots just shows a lack of intelligence. Obviously when I said sexuality and access to sex I meant things like porn, who men date (women have issues with age gaps, interracial relationships, etc), men having standards, shaming passport bros, fuck boys, etc. Women are always trying to manipulate and control men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:51 PM
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Because women are always trying to control men's sexuality and access to sex
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 08:08 PM
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Those just seem like desperate guys who really just want a family to lock down a woman. Most men really don't want children nearly as much and it shows in their behaviors. How many men abandon children vs women? How many fight for custody? Who spends more time with the children? Who pushes for children? Who looks up parenting content?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 12:33 AM
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Yeah but I'm not interested in trying to prove it because it's too obvious. It's a waste of time. If you actually believe men want kids more that's fine. Usually I would but this is just basic stuff. It's pretty obvious from men and women's behavior who wants kids more
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 01:51 PM
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I can't take any source trying to actually say men want kids more srsly...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 01:49 PM
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Based on who pressures who to have kids, who actually puts more work into the kids, spends more time with the kids, who tries to keep custody of the kids, etc If you are actually asking for proof I just think you have a lonely life. Where do you live that mother's are all blowing off their kids and dads are fighting for custody and spending all this time with their kids? It's too obvious to bother wasting time looking stats up
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 01:47 PM
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It doesn't have to be an excuse. Point is you can't force someone to care. Pick ppl that actually want to be parents. Stop acting like you can force ppl to be parents you can't. No one needs an excuse they can just choose not too or give minimal effort like we see...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 01:40 PM
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To me that's the stage of life that matters the least and is the least guaranteed anyways. Trying to optimize your life for that stage just seems dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 01:37 PM
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Shows how unreliable studies are then... It's pretty obvious women want kids way more
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 01:36 PM
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I agree I am the same way. We need to stop pressuring and telling men/women they need to have kids and instead inform them of all the sacrifice, work and change it takes and make sure they really want that. It will make better parents and children
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:51 AM
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Yeah I think that's a fair assessment. The number of men who are actually excited about kids and having them is very small. When guys talk about dreams or things they are excited about I almost never hear kids. Guys will beam about their partners but not really kids as much. Even if we looked at metrics. I would bet $$$. Women by far are the ones consuming content on parenting, preparing for a family, getting your partner to be a more involved parent, etc. It's pretty obvious. We never see men o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:49 AM
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Who cares you are prolly gonna be senile by then and barely know what's happening anyway... It's just annoying to keep seeing ppl push if you don't have kids no one will visit. Kids barely visit anyways. Giving up your prime to have someone visit when you are old is a bad trade off anyways. You should have kids because you want them in the present not because you are scares to be old
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:36 AM
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Then you don't really want them. That's life. Most things take work and men will do the work if it's for something they actually want... Most men feel expected to have kids but don't actually want them and it shows
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:33 AM
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Exactly it's really simple. Men don't want kids. Men put effort into things they want. They want women, cars, computers, sports, money, etc. Most fathers are just forced into it to make their wife happy. That's why seem like deadbeats and stuff because no one cared if they wanted to be fathers and you can't force someone to care. Ppl into kids act like kids have to always be number one and are so great and it's unrealistic. Ppl need to accept that there are a lot of ppl that aren't that into hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:28 AM
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What you are seeing is men pushed or forced to be dads who didn't really want to be dads. The difference between forcing someone to be a parent and someone actually wanting to be a parent is big. Most men don't want kids nearly as much as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:24 AM
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Men don't want kids nearly as much as women. It's usually women pushing for kids. That is why you are seeing that. These men are trying to make their wife happy and themselves. If anything the real mistake is letting their partners push them into something they don't want which isn't fair to anyone. On that note it's also why I don't really think it's fair to expect 50/50. That assumes both partners wanted to be parents equally and that usually isn't true. For me I don't really want kids. I'm no…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:20 AM
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Yep it is usually done just to expose sexism and because alot of ppl are sexist and will back anything based on the gender
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 09:48 PM
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Notice tho how you are just dismissing everything he is saying and most women are doing the same. Only one or two women are trying to understand. That is what men and women are doing these days to eachother. They are both spreading hate and no one cares until it affects their gender... So things will only get worse. That's why ppl are talking about the pendulum and stuff. Minimizing and dismissing will just make the snowball grow and the problem get worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:43 AM
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It's why I always say to change your gender to a woman for things like this. Most commenters are pretty sexist towards men and you will get better answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:25 AM
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And many ppl don't wanna admit they made a bad investment that is so costly like children
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 11:25 PM
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Exactly the real problem is men. I mean who isn't gonna accept being treated and having everything paid for... Men are stupid if their suggestion is srsly to ask women to give that up. Simping being a low value man that enables this behavior needs to be heavily shamed by men. That's the only way it will turn around. Most men are desperate and weak and everyone can see it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 08:40 PM
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But this attitude blaming women and hvm is asking the ppl who are doing fine to fix it for ppl who aren't. Why? Why can't these men fix things themselves? I used to think similar to you but OP is right. It really are these lvm and simps giving women the ego and enabling them to act the way they are. If these men had some standards women wouldn't act the way they do because they know most men wouldn't stand for it. Instead of trying to shame hvm and women and get them to fix things men should sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 08:38 PM
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I agree with OP. I don't think there is anything morally wrong with taking what ppl are offering you and I don't think it needs to be everyone's goal to find their looksmatch. If you can do better why not do that? For some a loving relationship is the most important thing but other ppl have other priorities. I also agree with OP the real problem is weak and desperate men. They are creating their own problems by enabling this behavior. So tbh they deserve the dating hellscape they experience. We …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 07:42 PM
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But that is literally just what it means to be a feminist these days. Silent on men's issues when they could use support but always there to spread misandry...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 04:25 AM
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You don't even know what I percieve as misandry. You are already trying to minimize and downplay it. Lol and you wanna act like I am wrong. Thanks for proving the point. Feminists are not allies. Secondly, we have prominent feminists and trusted large publications calling out feminism... So no you are wrong. You are literally here minimizing misandry which is what they do. That perpetuates and spreads misandry. Yeah I am not gonna take anyone srsly that tries to minimize misandry you are just pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/24 04:01 AM
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You could say the same about the manosphere. There are multiple schools of thought. Point is it is a part of feminism and you can't just pick out the good and ignore the bad. The misandry and hate against men is very much a part of feminism. If you don't want feminism to stand for that it is on feminists to police and call themselves out and outcast those ppl from the movement. But hating men has gone mainstream because of feminism so I doubt that will happen. How often do you see feminists defe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 07:57 PM
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Feminists fight against making misandry a hate crime https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/misandry-men-hate-crime-women-sexism-racism-feminism-a8586591.html Prominent feminist talks about how feminism has become all about man hating these days https://nationalpost.com/full-comment/cathy-young-when-radical-feminists-treat-men-badly-its-bad-for-feminism Washington Post calling out the misandry spread by feminism https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/06/30/feminists-treat-men-badly-…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 12:21 AM
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Haha no they don't and even spoken to plenty on here that make it clear men need to find their own movement. Not too mention the rise of feminism has also included the rise of misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 08:05 PM
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We live in a society where being a victim grants you privileges at this point. This is why everyone is always trying to make their group the biggest victim. Basically anyone doing that you shouldn't trust. When do you see groups pointing out how they victimize or have privileges? It's always pointing out another group that has privilege and making themselves the biggest victims. Similarly if someone has more bad things than good things to say about an ex it is a red flag. I try to stay on good o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:00 PM
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So largely OP is right. Women shouldn't listen to ppl who clearly don't have their best interest in mind and same could be said for men and feminists. I think both points are true. I really don't think there is anything to debate against.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:30 PM
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If most ppl don't have age gap relationships then tell ppl to stop complaining about them all the time...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 10:24 PM
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Most guys are pretty pathetic tho. No standards, desperate and struggle to get anyone. Of course most will settle down but that doesn't mean much
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:59 PM
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When it really shouldn't be. Everyone is insecure at times and there nothing wrong with that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 01:56 AM
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Yeah if anything a more effective strategy for all men is getting men to raise their standards. It would help all men and society really produce more quality relationships. That should be the message men are spreading. Shame men with low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 01:25 AM
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I'm saying I think that is overstated tho. Most younger men have never actually experienced that themselves. It's really that the current system isn't working for them and they aren't happy under it. They wouldn't care about an old system they never experienced if they thrived under this new one. I also don't really even have a desire to go back. Her staying home with the kids and me going to work sounds terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 10:07 PM
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Yeah but I never experienced that deal only heard stories so I wouldn't actually be accustomed to it at all
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:59 PM
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Ok but that isn't me benefiting... Unless you are trying to argue that I'm privileged because my dad wasn't around lol...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:52 PM
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I grew up with a single mom... And even if a dad did benefit what does that have to do with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:51 PM
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I just graduated college a couple years ago. I am mid 20s. Yeah I realize it's different on different parts of the world of course
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:50 PM
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Because I see the same hate whenever anyone brings up men's issues on social media. I'm not saying Tate is someone to follow and I don't really know his story but my point is it really doesn't matter. Controversial stuff is what gets attention on social media. Ive never heard of the ppl you mention. But I have seen randos make points and try to bring up men's issues and it never goes over well. Also I think there is so much hate because that is what it always devolves too. Ppl regularly dehumani…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:42 PM
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Yeah and I am saying they didn't grow up in the past where they "get to have a family to rule over for existing" for example. None of my friends or anyone I know gets that. We are not accustomed to this privilege at all. If anything we grew up in a feminist society which is something completely different than what you are describing. Women have had more pull my whole life pretty much. Women my age out earn men, they out perform men in education, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:23 PM
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If men had so much privelege their complaints wouldn't be ignored and they could actually change things. As we can see they can't...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:16 PM
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Most young ppl never grew up accustomed to privilege and they are the ones complaining the most...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:13 PM
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Any movement or figure that supports or speaks out on men's issues is gonna get lambasted and ridiculed. Even when random ppl bring up men's issues online they get hate. At this point the problem isn't really Tate or whoever that's just an excuse. The issue is that it is men's issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 09:06 PM
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You are doing the same thing. You have your bubble and beliefs and reject content that doesn't fit that. Have you considered some men are relating to certain content because that is their lived experience? Also I can't take a man that is a feminist srsly. Feminism is one of the leading spreaders of misandry. It's what has enabled so much misandry. You are trying to seem enlightened but you are just another follower. You were told what to believe and follow and you do
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 01:01 AM
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They can both be inexperienced together. And the younger women won't tie him down. A late bloomer should date around and not get into anything srs. I would actually recommend a younger person. They won't put as much pressure to rush to marriage and kids. An inexperienced person isn't gonna be able to tell the difference between a good partner and a poor one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:03 AM
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So, feminists were never about helping men and women? They are not allies to men. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:03 AM
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By blaming men for their own problems, it is just a manipulative way to ignore them. Blame never helps get anything solved or fixed. Also, it is insane to blame half the world for the problems of a few. Just classic sexism at play.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:01 AM
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Huh what situation is that? Who was being put in a dangerous situation?? Read this and come back: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1auddii/things_are_only_truly_terrible_when_it_happens_to/kr40x65/ It is the first comment in this chain of comments. He was put in a dangerous situation just for being a man. Um it actually is. You want to talk about male victims of violence while ignoring the main perpetrators of said violence and instead focus on women who hint hint aren’t the mai…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 12:00 AM
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So basically you are saying you want everyone to just trust you lol... You are the one making the claim. Yeah it only takes 5 mins to do a search... So it shouldn't be this hard to get sources from you if you actually have them. Even my middle school teacher let us know to back up what we say with sources. The point of providing a source is so everyone can reference the same thing you are talking about and trying to prove. And so we all know you aren't just making stuff up... Having everyone gue…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 09:30 PM
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I am a different commenter than the guy that brought up the patriarchy stuff. How is male violence against men a problem caused by women? How does women being sympathetic to male victims of violence do anything to stop male violence against male victims??? Oh are we supposed to fight men on your behalf to protect you? Women's attitudes that it is a male problem is part of the issue. This isn't a problem of male-on-male violence. This is an issue of an innocent man being used and put in a dangero…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 09:24 PM
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Other ppl have provided sources and you have linked nothing. Do you have anything to back up what you are saying? Seems you are just making claims with no proof. Because the stuff you are saying doesn't track with what I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 09:03 PM
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Look at this response lol. Just reinforces that women and society at large don't care about men. Her first objective is to make sure blame is properly placed and then she uses that to tell you to f*** off. As a man anything bad that happens to you is your fault until you solve all the other bad shit unrelated men do around the world. If a man is in danger or gets hurt no one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 03:29 PM
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Yeah, video games do replace that for people. Men especially are really prone to getting sucked into video games and digital worlds. I know plenty of guys that has happened or is still happening too. I got sucked into video games when I was younger and they absolutely replaced doing things or sports for me. These days I am really apprehensive about what games I play because I don't want to get sucked into them again at least not at this point in my life. Maybe when I am old or retired I will. Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:28 PM
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When we play videogames we trick our brain to invest in nothing but we do it for the experience. So it may seem like nothing but it's actually something. I have some friends I have never met in real life. Only knew them through videogames and talking on voice chat or the phone. We had emotional moments and highs and lows like any friendship. What would be the difference between that and an AI companion in the social sense? I also think it is something AI could replicate in the future. Social con…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 11:12 PM
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Men en mass are treated as disposable but you should never want or tolerate a partner that thinks that about you. If a woman isn't treating you like the prize she doesn't like you. Both partners should be treating eachother as the prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:54 AM
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I don't think there is an issue with compliments at least on my end. I've never had a problem with them and I haven't heard that from other men so I'm sure you're probably fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 06:34 PM
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See this is why I say you are controlling... Messages like this are so disingenuous and manipulative. You don't actually care about the state of the industry you just want ppl to stop using porn because you are controlling and insecure. If it was about cleaning up the industry you wouldn't try and get ppl to stop porn but get ppl to help put pressure on these platforms to verify the content is not full of non-consensual content.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 12:33 PM
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If you didn't care why did you try and tell her what she can do with her own body?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 12:30 PM
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I don't know if it is consensual. I would trust these platforms to make sure it is. If they aren't then the problem is on these platforms hosting illegal content not men. It is unreasonable to expect men to verify it is consensual. That should be the job of the platforms and I get behind holding them accountable and making sure all available porn is consensual. I can tell you are controlling and manipulative just by how you tried to manipulate me just now. You are using consensual porn as a way …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 12:29 PM
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Creepy doesn't mean you are necessarily threatened. You can feel creeped out just because you are not comfortable with the situation. Here are things I have experienced multiple times: When women stalk ppl on social media to learn about them. Even worse is when women brag about this ability... When women force a good response. For example, I have had a woman kinda grab me and be like guys wouldn't we make a good couple. Which kinda forces me into a situation where I will give a good response sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 12:22 PM
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You just called masturbation a problem. It's not a problem to do it when you are bored. You can do it whenever you want. It's her body and no one else's input is needed on when she should or shouldn't masturbate. Why do you think you have any right to control how ppl use their bodies?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:31 PM
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There's consensual porn. Using that to villify porn is just manipulation to get men to do what you want. Women are always trying to manipulate and control men's sexuality... If the problem is porn is on these platforms that isn't consensual that's an issue I can get behind but we should be attacking the platforms that are hosting it and making them verify it is consensual. That isn't a reason to control and manipulate men into not watching or using porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:28 PM
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I'm not worried about getting a partner because of porn I already have a partner and she's cool with it. I don't like women's attitudes about it and thinking they have any right to control what men do with their bodies. Basically I think men should help out each other even if the struggle doesn't personally affect them. Letting misandry run unchecked hurts all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:25 PM
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Ok who cares? So you are mad men can get those chemicals without being used by a woman lol? Women can do the same thing and engage in porn as well. We never see men saying women can't watch porn. Just shows how women these days think they can control a man's body/mind and they exist to be used.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:13 PM
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No one needs to even justify it. It's their body and their choice. That is an act that only involves them and is of no one else's concern. This is just women mad men have another outlet and weakens their control over men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 02:32 PM
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Men don't exist to be used by women. If a man wants to just live his days as you describe that's his choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 02:17 PM
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You are fine. Don't let them shame you and if you enjoy masturbating keep doing it. It's your body and only your decision if it's a problem or not
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 02:15 PM
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It isn't a problem. You are making masturbation and porn to be bad things. If she enjoys masturbating then doing it when she is horny is fine. Who are you to tell her she has a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 02:15 PM
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It's not really a problem at all unless you want to masturbate without porn. If you like using porn it isn't a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 02:13 PM
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It doesn't matter your attempt to control and manipulate isn't needed or wanted by men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:17 AM
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If you didn't care you wouldn't have a negative opinion or try and shame so no that's not true at all.... Stop caring plz stop caring... Women say that but never shut up about the choices men make and trying to control them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:15 AM
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Have your opinion but don't shame and try to manipulate other ppl's choices. That's the difference. Most men consume porn and theirs nothing wrong with it. Your language is manipulative and controlling. That's not your right. You aren entitled to attempt to control and manipulate men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:13 AM
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Yeah but you are shaming language is an attempt to manipulate and control. Even this reply shows you are... Because men don't do what you want they are low value 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:08 AM
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Ok if you don't wanna be with porn addicts then just don't choose them. You don't get to try and control the choices men make to make them more appealing to you. Men don't exist to be consumed by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:07 AM
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That's irrelevant tho even if true. Alcohol is also considered unhealthy. Ppl can do things that are unhealthy that's their personal choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:04 AM
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But is he really high value if he changes and gets insecure? That's the point the other guy is making. If both parties are high value they don't need to be insecure and can leave because they have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 03:47 PM
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Women are always trying to controls men's sexuality... They shame porn, age gaps, men that won't date fat women, men that turn down sex, men that want women with low # of partners, men that don't commit, etc. I wish women would stop caring and stop trying to control men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 10:54 AM
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No not a majority but I also don't think it is a majority of men. I think there are plenty for both. I think it is less common among women but that is just because women are pickier imo. I think it can seem like a lot because those things stand out. But yeah it isn't the majority of the time at all when I think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 11:47 PM
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Haha, we haven't been in a patriarchy for a while. If anything, it is a matriarchy. And this response is what I am talking about when I say men don't receive empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 10:59 PM
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I guess thirsty is subjective. So hard to tell what we are talking about. Some examples: Have had a friend that was a woman kiss me mid conversation unprompted and unexpectedly. I wasn't trying to pursue something with her. Had a drunk women at a bar grab my head and try and force me to make out with her while I was carrying shots. I didn't know her at all Had a woman super flirty and grabbing me and asking the group if we would make a good couple (while she was dating my friend and my gf was th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 10:56 PM
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You can be conditioned though by society to value yourself less. That is why I say it is on society to make things right. Sure, you can start your own journey but if you have already been conditioned to not value yourself most won't, and they are victims that need help.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:47 PM
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He is being manipulative and intentionally misrepresenting the issue. The issue with pedo relationships isn't that one is much younger it is that one is a child. It is like saying is it okay to shame men for their preferences? Yes! Ok then it is okay to shame men for dating outside their race or for gay relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:21 PM
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I dunno I just don't see how an attractive guy could go under the radar at all... As far as thirsty women, I just don't think you have been around attractive guys then. Women absolutely get very thirsty and throw themselves at attractive guys. (Which is why I don't think attractive guys can go under the radar) This is true for some women but also not true for plenty of women. I know plenty of both. It is def not universal that all women get approached. I even know some attractive women that bare…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:14 PM
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My question is why is everything framed as men's fault? Women wanted to be approached less and that has happened these days. Whether it's because of risk being exaggerated or not really doesn't matter. Men don't think it's worth the risk and women got what they want. If women are having trouble getting dates these days. We should be encouraging them to pursue and put the onus on them. Men have already changed their behavior to accommodate women. Women should change their behavior to ask men out …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:01 PM
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Nah that's not true. I know plenty of men and women both. First to answer OPs question it is normal these days for women to be approached less. At least in the 20s age range. I know plenty of women and plenty never get approached any more that isn't the norm. The ones that do tho act annoyed if we are out at like a bar. Usually the guys end up being way more friendly and inviting to strangers and the girls more cold. We are usually in a mixed group. To respond to you. Average or below men are no…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:53 PM
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No society cares about certain people and cares about different groups differently. Men have been conditioned to not care about themselves or value themselves. Society made men this way it's on society to push them in the right direction And make things right wrt to these dangerous jobs
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:39 PM
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You are choosing a specific look. Clean cut handsome. That is obviously attractive but some women want more masculine energy or excitement so that is why the homeless look like you described is attractive. You are assuming a clean cut look is better because you probably prefer that. Danger is more masculine, safe more feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:27 PM
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This type of response though is exactly why ppl say society doesn't care about them. If this was women there would be a whole compaign to improve the safety of these jobs and how they have been conditioned to accept shitty working conditions. With men it's just fuck them it's their own fault... Society doesn't care about men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 12:12 PM
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Because you seem to think everyone starts at the most extreme levels. Like everything nobody starts at the extremes. That grows over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 05:23 AM
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No you are just short sighted. It isn't about the cucks it's about not normalizing the behavior like he said... It's about using shame to discourage other ppl from even exploring this kink. Doesn't matter if the cuck gets off on shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:28 AM
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Really haven't at all you just don't like how they are presented because it makes you look bad. Stop trying to minimize hate speech and I'll stop accusing you of doing so... It's really that simple. You have tried to minimize it and failed. You are upset because I condemn all hate speech and you don't. You say you do but empathize and minimize at every turn. Someone who empathizes with racists isn't a good person... Someone who minimizes hate speech isn't as well. We don't need empathy here we n…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 04:22 AM
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No all hate speech is bad. No one defends hate speech because spreading hate always has negative consequences. We have seen enough history to learn by now you can't just ignore it. I am saying most hate speech isn't followed thru by any physical agressive action but that doesn't mean it isn't impacting that group negatively. There is extensive literature on this. Again defending one side of hate speech is just excusing hate speech. Two wrongs don't make a right. Just because one side starts the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:54 AM
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When you say things like they are just venting instead of condemning them for spreading hate your actions say you think it is ok...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 10:59 PM
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Summary seems accurate to me... Given that rarely ever do women who say this actually mean it in threat, it's clearly the former, and I take that pain seriously Most people that say any form of hate speech rarely actually mean it literally. Most ppl never go through with the hate speech they spread or the threats they spread online. We still take hate speech srsly though. Also, you can't know their headspace. You can't know if they intend to do harm in other ways. No woman has the power to kill …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 10:57 PM
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I could say the same for any hate speech. There is way more hate speech for any group than actual murder victims of said group. Most hate speech doesn't result in murder, only a tiny percentage does... So by your logic all hate speech is just ppl venting since it isn't a threat of murder. We know though that hate speech is dangerous and has way more consequences than just murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 10:43 PM
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Spreading hate speech is always a threat. Again acting like the only potential negative outcome is murder is wrong. What if they are a mother with children that are male and it leads to abuse? Just because it isn't mass murder it isn't a threat? You are again minimizing and making dangerous assumptions. What you are doing rn is a threat. Saying stuff like it rarely ever is a threat is dangerous because it minimizes the danger hate speech poses. You say you are against hate speech but again excus…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 10:40 PM
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My question is if you don't think these phrases are ok, why spend so much time minimizing them? Why not just condemn them and move on?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:56 PM
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No I'm saying mass murders is one of the least common negative side effects of hate speech. Using that as a barometer to determine if a certain form of hate speech is ok is either laughablly ignorant or intentionally manipulative. Hate speech has way more negative effects than mass murders.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:47 PM
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Really doesn't matter. The point is 'Kill All Men' is a form of hate speech so you can stop minimizing it. We don't need context we need it to stop. It doesn't matter if you wanna assume they are just venting. Acting like if hate speech doesn't lead to mass murders it is ok is so ignorant it is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:13 PM
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All your comments have been about minimizing it's impact and making assumptions about the headspace of individuals and using blizzare justifications like women aren't commonly serial killers so it's ok... No one should be defending hate speech this hard...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:24 PM
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You are making excuses you can't know the mindset or headspace of ppl saying these things online. Spreading hate is always bad and you are trying to handwave it from women. You aren't providing any useful context because it is full of assumptions. This is all an attempt to minimize and manipulate. Also looking at only serial killers for why hate spread from women should be handwaved and not men is either ignorant or intentionally manipulative. It ignores all the other potentially negative effect…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:12 PM
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Men face similar levels of domestic violence and have higher levels of unreciprocated domestic violence. Meaning in relationships where only one party is abusing the other it's usually women abusing men. https://aliesq.medium.com/extensive-research-women-initiate-domestic-violence-more-than-men-men-under-report-it-3bbaa4fbec9d Finally women are more likely to be agressive and controlling towards their partner. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2669408/amp/Rise-female-relationship-t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:56 PM
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This is exactly what OP is talking about. You are just making excuses to handwave similar behavior from women. The vast majority of men that talk badly about women aren't gonna go on a killing spree. Like stop being manipulative... Using that as justification for why it's ok for women to say heinous things about men and spread hate but not vice versa is wrong and manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:33 PM
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This would be predatory behavior though. This is what women accuse men of doing in age gap relationships. You are just saying women should look for someone weak and obedient to take advantage of...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:06 PM
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I agree that's why I said I would call the cops and I think that's what I would expect of others. I don't think anyone should be expected to endanger themselves though. Tho I also think filming is useful for evidence. I would want both.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 04:02 PM
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I like where you are going with most of your stuff. I think a big issue with men is relationships. Not just romantic but relationships with friends and family. I think a big focus for men should be to get them to build their own support structure so they aren't so dependent on a romantic relationship to be fulfilled. I also think men being single or virgins and all of that needs less shaming and more acceptance to help improve the mental health of men. Another thing is too many men tolerate abus…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 02:47 PM
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Even on social media it happens. If a women is assualted ppl act like any man in the vicinity should have stepped in. To me why should I have to risk my safety for a stranger? We have seen men step in and get permanently disfigured or disabled. If it's a good friend or loved one I would def step in but for a stranger (man or woman) I will just call the police.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 02:32 PM
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I think his point is you can still discriminate on car insurance just not on the basis of gender. It wouldn't have to be a massive overhaul. Just like we do for health insurance. Otherwise women would pay higher premiums than men for health insurance if we allowed gender to be a factor because they use the insurance more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 02:30 PM
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And that's why I support abortion so if she doesn't wanna be pregnant she doesn't have to be. The point is men and women should both have reproductive rights and never be forced to be a parent without their consent. You turning this into a man vs woman thing to try and deny men reproductive rights just shows women never really wanted equality. Birth control is not a replacement for reproductive rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 01:30 AM
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Because I can be forced to be responsible for a child without my consent which is something that can't happen to women in places where abortion is legal. Consent to sex is not consent to being a parent. Consent must be enthusiastic and cannot be assumed. Women have birth control methods AND abortion. Men have less rights. Birth control is not a replacement for reproductive rights. Again until a man can never be forced to be responsible for a child he didn't consent to be responsible for he has l…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 12:29 AM
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Nope not if we have a welfare system in place to help support them. What's the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:59 PM
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Maybe you are not mature enough to engage in sex if you don't understand consent. If I did not consent to be a parent or a father forcing it upon me is a violation and it is one women will never have in places abortion is legal. This is how women act when they have more rights than men... It just shows women never cared about equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:55 PM
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Yeah that would be a good start but more needs to be done
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:53 PM
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That is absolutely not true plenty of women have had children they didn’t want to have at great risk to their health. Well, I am speaking in areas where abortion is legal. Which is the case where I live. I also support abortion because of many of the same reasons I support reproductive rights for men. Unlike most women I actually want equality and rights for all. The lack of support from women on men getting reproductive rights says a lot. You are very confused. The matter of who gets pregnant i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:52 PM
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I am willing to pay a percentage of my paycheck for my working life to support equality and give men reproductive rights and to help support children that need welfare. Point is anyone who isn't against equality should support men having reproductive rights. There is an easy solution to give men rights and ensure children have the needed support.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:43 PM
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White men and women had the right to vote long before minorities were fighting for their rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:41 PM
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Yeah, but those men are jailed or have warrants out for their arrest. Those laws that obligate ppl pay for things don't jail ppl for failure to pay debts. That was outlawed years ago because it was immoral. Also, usually that involves those parties entering a contract or agreement to pay. And even then like I said you don't can't be jailed for debt. So you keep bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:40 PM
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Because it is a form of indentured/involuntary servitude. I never consented and I forced to provide against my will. It is violating my bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:37 PM
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If you have to shame it means you don't have a valid point and are trying to manipulate to get what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 08:40 PM
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Not really, the fact you see it that way just shows it's never been about the children just sticking it to men. Women don't want equality. How is this at all sticking it to women? They have nothing to do with this. Their children will still be supported. This is a way to please every party. Paying taxes is less impactful on a man's life than having to pay CS.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 08:39 PM
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It does because it means you are forced into labor against your will. It is a form of indentured/involuntary servitude. That is a bodily autonomy violation. The citizens also used to collectively decide women and minorities shouldn't have rights. Who cares what the status quo is... It is usually wrong and we have a history of denying rights and should fix that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 08:35 PM
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No because we need more kids and there's nothing wrong with welfare. It's to help ppl in need.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 08:33 PM
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They do not. Women will never have to have a child they didn't want. Men can't say the same. So men have less rights. If anyone is actually quibbling over taxes vs men's reproductive rights it just shows they never cared about equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 08:32 PM
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You should pay taxes to help children and equality by giving men reproductive rights. We need new ppl anyways. The birth rate is getting too low. So more children being born helps society and you as you get older anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:59 PM
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Yep, you already pay taxes that go to help ppl that don't help themselves. This would help children and give men reproductive rights. There really aren't many better causes...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:54 PM
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We already pay for tons of things that don't benefit us directly. At least this will benefit children and give men reproductive rights. Two pretty damn important causes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:53 PM
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We already pay for everyone else anyways. I pay taxes for tons of things that don't benefit me. It will help children and give men reproductive rights. That is better that most of what we are spending tax money on already
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:51 PM
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And that shows men have less rights than women... Yet we don't see feminists trying to even that out...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:47 PM
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We already pay for a ton of stuff anyways at least this way we are helping children and giving men rights
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:44 PM
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Point is why would the law even allow a pregnancy when one parent doesn't want them? Having a child be born into that situation is not protecting children
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:43 PM
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Your stance violates the bodily autonomy of men and ignores their consent. A man is also entitled to his life and deserves rights. Men are not less than children. Secondly the support a child needs can come front he state that way we don't need to violate men or ignore consent. All this shows is women don't support men's rights but want support from men. Can't trust women, men are objects to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:40 PM
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It doesn't matter which burden is worse. One doesn't excuse the other. Second we can provide support from the state instead of the man and make sure the child is cared for and men get their reproductive rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:37 PM
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It violates bodily autonomy to force a man to work against his will with his body to support a child he doesn't want. It violates his consent to force him to do so as well. Those are both very immoral. And this is how women show their true colors. They are never and never will be about equal rights. They don't care about consent or bodily autonomy when it comes to men. Yes children need care and that can be supplemented by the state so we don't violate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:33 PM
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I already pay taxes for things that don't help me at all and I don't want to. At least my taxes will go towards children in this case and my reproductive rights. This is a no brainer...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:29 PM
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That support can come from the state it doesn't need to come by forcing someone to do something against their will and ignoring consent
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:28 PM
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Right so slaves and indentured servants had bodily autonomy lol...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:27 PM
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Who said we are gonna let babies starve? Just have the govt provide support so babies don't starve and let men have their freedom...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:26 PM
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Why should the man suffer if he doesn't wanna be a father? Just provide social services for single parents so the man can have his freedom and the child doesn't suffer. Stop treating men like objects and ignoring consent
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:25 PM
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Let the government intervene and provide support. No one should be forced to be a parent against their will. And this stance ignores consent. Consent to sex is not consent to be a parent. You are just saying you don't value male consent which is predatory and creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 07:23 PM
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Then it sounds like we agree, what's the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 02:14 PM
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I have never been in this situation. It just seems like a topic that is brought up a lot so it seemed like maybe she would have to know. I guess I am not sure why it's even an issue if it can be done without the other parent knowing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 12:12 AM
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Nope, I have avoided getting anyone pregnant so far and have contemplated freezing some sperm. If I did have a child though I would get the test done. why would you have to ask the mom for a paternity test instead of just getting one? Yeah, I am not sure. That is a good question. If I could get one without my partner knowing that is what I would opt for it would just save us from drama. I would like to think I pick partners well so have nothing to worry about but would want to double check.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 11:46 PM
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Nope I've never seen anyone jailed or anything for paternity fraud, in the US it is not a crime. I am not sure where you are from. I know it is pretty shocking it isn't a crime. I would agree to mandatory testing and contributing to unsolved crimes. Solve 2 things at once!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 11:39 PM
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Well, I guess first we should define what we are talking about. I am saying getting upset at a man for wanting a paternity test or guilt tripping him over it is manipulation and not respecting a boundary of his. He wants one to feel safe in his future investment of the child. That shouldn't be a problem imo. Someone who doesn't wanna date another person that goes clubbing, dresses a certain way, etc. Isn't as much a concern for me. I do those things and am a flirty person in general so I wouldn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 11:36 PM
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Exactly the goverment does not protect men and women get upset when men take it upon themselves to protect themself. If women want men to trust women more and not worry so much about protecting themselves: Make it a crime Call out women who do it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 11:11 PM
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It doesn't have to be the exact same. You pointed out it is a tiny minority, so it doesn't matter. Point is it does matter. Also, most women are assaulted by someone they know. Men and women should be taking caution around ppl they know. Blind trust is for the stupid. I can trust you but still protect myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 11:04 PM
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I never said there was anything wrong with that. Just like there isn't anything wrong with men protecting themself. Men and women should continue to share stories among each other. I am glad to know troubles other men went through so I can avoid them and I am sure other women are glad to hear these stories about men so they can stay safe. yeah when you are just meeting someone not respecting their boundaries is fucked Anytime you don't respect boundaries it is fucked. Just because I know you doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 11:02 PM
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Men are free to not trust whoever they want... I get your post but the point is like women hear stories of dangerous random men and it is blasted everywhere. Men hear stories about women and the danger from women is the women you know. We have also heard loud and clear that society doesn't care if men get hurt. It is up to men to make sure they don't get hurt because no one will help you. Any women that doesn't respect that is a giant red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 10:02 PM
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Actually ppl do? Should women not take precautions when going out at night around strange men even it's a tiny minority of men that will do a violent crime?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 09:53 PM
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It doesn't matter if you know them. Ppl change. I'm not the same person I'll be in 10 yrs. If your partner has an issue with you protecting yourself that's a very big red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 09:51 PM
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Exactly women don't trust men either but that isn't an issue. It's blasted everywhere as being smart and safe. This is the same thing. Men who don't trust but verify are just stupid. Everyone should be taking precautions and they are different for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 09:49 PM
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I agree and I would actually prefer a woman that can still look young because it shows she will age well. You have no idea if the younger woman will put in the work to stay looking good and healthy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 01:45 PM
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I just don't think it's mentally healthy and it will lead you to a worse life. You aren't loving yourself if you tolerate that and you can't expect others to love you if you don't love yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 11:43 AM
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A man should consent to be a father. If he doesn't you can't get upset at him for being a shitty father. Sex isn't consent to fatherhood or motherhood btw. Hence why we have abortion. I don't wanna be a father at this point in my life. If I accidentally get someone pregnant that won't change. If she has the baby that still won't change. I won't feel connected or responsible for the kid because I never consented to be a father. If I did I would take the responsibility differently. Right now men d…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:21 AM
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I just think because people's attitudes around children are unhealthy. They try and make their whole life revolve around the children. To me that's unhealthy and I don't want that. I want my freedom and I would definitely care for the children and generally like children but anything that takes complete control of your life is a turn off. I also just don't like child support laws. I think the amount of $$ awarded is excessive. There should be a limit.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 09:06 AM
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I'm with you. I don't want to make marriage harder to leave. I would only want to be with someone that actually wants me as well. I think marriage should be easier to leave for men as well. Get rid of alimony and splitting assets. Basically no one should make $$ off marriage. Make it mostly a religious thing with very few legal benefits and I would be more on board. Men shouldn't feel trapped in a marriage. No one should but men do right now
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 08:45 AM
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Oh I see yes my bad it was worded in a way that could be interpreted differently. Well I agree it is something that should be addressed. Personally I find those ppl that minimize it or dismiss it creepy and usually will say something. If someone is opening up about sexual assault saying you would like it or they're lucky is not appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:53 AM
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You don't have to care but don't go victim blaming or finding reasons to be dismissive... Just stay out of it then.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:39 AM
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But why should that matter? I'm a man and I still believe men even though other men make jokes or are dismissive. Basically why should we care about what ppl who are dismissing sexual assault says when we have victims saying it matters to them? Just because one man likes something doesn't mean all men do. Same for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:33 AM
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Why would men need to be in solidarity? That is dehumanizing men. You see men as a collective instead of as an individual. Some men are gonna take issue and some aren't. Just like some women will take issue with certain forms of harassment or approaches and some aren't. This is just victim blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:21 AM
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Women will literally brag about their ability to stalk a guy. You have women going through social media to try and be a detective and find out all this info about a dude. That's creepy. If he wanted you to know something he would tell you. That's why I gotta keep all my stuff private these days. I don't have social media so ppl can creep and look and try and connect who I'm friends with, how close we are, where I am, hobbies of mine, etc. It's stalker behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:16 AM
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No men don't need to do that. How about ppl stop being sexist towards men and stop the misandry. Is it women's job to make sure men don't treat all women like they do OF or are gold diggers? No ppl who do that are mysogynistic. Same for men. It isn't my job to tell other men how to live their life so sexist ppl who treat men like a monolith will have a better view
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:23 PM
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You are treating men as a monolith though... It's like acting like all women are gold diggers or do OF. If you think all men are like that, that is a you problem. You have a problem with being sexist to men. Men that aren't getting sex are gonna act like it's the most important thing. Men that get sex regularly won't. Ppl crave what they don't have and take for granted what they get easily. It's the human condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:21 PM
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Most of my gfs have been hornier than I have been. Men are hornier out of a relationship maybe but in a relationship things are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:17 PM
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No it isn't ED. If my partner is being an asshole or not turning me on and I don't get hard it isn't ED she either rushed and didn't get me going (means she's bad at sex) or I don't wanna fuck her cuz I'm annoyed so she needs to work on herself. Just cuz a guy gets soft it isn't ED. There's a bunch of reasons. Sex is mental for men and women. Getting soft at times is normal and any man that has had sex has experienced it. Just because eyou get soft it isn't ED.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 07:12 PM
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Ok and I move on and fuck someone else too. Who cares? You are weak and operate from a scarcity mindset. Your real problem is you struggle to attract women. You will always be in a weak position until you fix that and women will always sense that. If you can attract women and they can see that they won't care if you 'fail' her test. They won't even try to do that because you are prized and they risk losing you. And if they do it wouldn't matter because you have options. All you are doing is copi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:25 PM
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So what it starts an argument and then you stand up for yourself. You don't modify and supress yourself to avoid a fight. Are you scared of a fight with your gf or wife? Just sounds like you guys all are letting your partner bully you and it's sad. If my partner becomes combative with me I can be just as combative back.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 01:07 PM
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Who cares if she gets the ick tho? If she leaves you for something like that you are better off without her. Some of you live your whole life based on what is or isn't attractive and it's sad and can be easily taken advantage of... If you are sufficiently attractive it shouldn't matter if you do some unattractive things. She will still want you. Changing your behavior to fit what someone else wants isn't masculine it's weak. You aren't a leader at that point but a follower.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 01:03 PM
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Yeah I'm sure there are also women who have stopped dating as well. Yeah no one needs to repent lol. I also think though that if you work on yourself and focus on what you bring and make yourself a high value partner none of this will even affect you. The most desirable ppl will always be pretty unaffected by any of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 12:37 PM
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Well I never said it was 50% or anything like that. I get you are usng that as an example but yeah nowhere near that high. Also didn't you say you saw it with ppl at work? According to that link the study found between 20-33% of men don't have friends. I mean you wouldn't notice it through friend's boyfriend's because these are men with no social circle pretty much and no significant other. You work in healthcare though. That's a diverse field. I work in software so I know plenty of men without …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 11:32 AM
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How would you notice more though is my question? I think if you think that you don't really know many men. I think most men have friends from childhood that are like this. Here is an article talking about how plenty of men have no friends: https://www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/57460/1/straight-men-no-friends-toxic-masculinity-loneliness-u-ok It is likely worse than even I would think because again these are men with pretty much no social circle. How would anyone know about them? No s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 11:02 AM
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What I'm saying is these men would be invisible to you. How would you know about them? They have a very small friend circle which consists of pretty much childhood friends or online friends. Mostly all male. A lot of these men have either given up or just don't care to pursue dating. They are chasing money, video games, drugs or other hobbies to keep them fulfilled. I don't think these men blame women but more just wanna chase fullfilment in a different area. I've never talked to them about why …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 09:37 AM
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That is still a minority of men and I don't like the premise that once again the failing is on men... If anything we as a society are probably failing those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 01:26 AM
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Well I think a lot of these single men are just invisible to most women. They probably have few of no friends and really only socialize with their tiny bubble. I have guy friends that are social but I also have guy friends that don't wanna hang out with new ppl and really only will socialize with really old friends or prefer to hang out alone. Ones of my friends from HS used to be social but these days he just never wants to meet new ppl. I just think there are a lot of men that aren't dating bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 01:22 AM
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It's all supply and demand. No one is gonna just lower the pay because women join doesn't make sense. If the pay would lower it means there is an oversupply of workers. If there isn't an oversupply of skilled labor the pay should remain the same. No one is gonna gimp their workforce intentionally just to screw over women. Also if what you say is true companies that don't lower pay should have an advantage with recruiting the skilled labor available. Basically acting like companies are out to get…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 07:56 AM
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Then choose a different job... It's not that hard and no one is forcing them into those jobs. Before I chose my career path I looked at the earnings potential. These are adults they can do the same. I did that as a child...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 12:35 AM
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I mean it's a two way street but you only hold men accountable. Why would you expect men to treat women well that treats men poorly? If a woman is hateful towards men of course men are gonna be more likely to just use her. If she is a slut men are gonna think she isn't srs about commitment and treat her how she projects herself to the world. I'm not saying anything is wrong with being slutty either. I've been slutty. But I didn't expect ppl to take me srsly for sommitment at that stage. It can b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 07:06 PM
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Nope again you dodged the question because it shows you were wrong and really not being seen as dangerous is a huge privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 06:55 PM
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What fact am I ignoring specifically? So you married an extremely violent man and had kids with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 10:00 AM
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No you dodged the question like a politician. You commented on the question but didn't answer it. There is a difference. If you answered the question then how come I am left trying to speculate if you thought privilege was at play in that situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 11:38 PM
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Ok so stop trying to invalidate and answer the question. Yes, nobody should be followed around. That isn't the point. So based on your answer you think that no one is privileged in this scenario? The black guy shouldn't be followed around but there is no privilege at play? I think you dodging the question though proves the point. You feel uncomfortable answering it because you recognize now that being perceived as not dangerous is a big privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 09:46 PM
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I never said they were. You are using facts to hide privilege. It is clear you are being dishonest because you keep avoiding my questions and stick to your narrative. 1.) If a white guy and a black guy enter a store and the security guard chooses to follow the black guy around the store who has privilege? 2.) Is it a fact that your husband is more dangerous than any random woman we might encounter on the street?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 09:40 PM
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I literally said the same thing from the beginning. I will take your refusal to answer my question as you realizing your error. We were pointing out privileges here not justifying them. That has always been a separate discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 09:32 PM
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So, if two friends walk in the store a white guy and a black guy and the security guard follows only the black guy around the whole time he shops there is no privilege at play? Is that what you believe lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 08:49 PM
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If a white guy and a black guy enter a store and the security guard chooses to follow the black guy around the store who has privilege? You didn't answer my question... What is fact? That women as a group are less violent? Yes, I agreed with this statement. It is a fact that a random woman is always less dangerous than a random man? No that isn't fact. You don't know if that woman is a criminal or not. Same with the man. So your husband or male child is more dangerous than a woman that has commi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 08:36 PM
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Nope, I insulted you because you fail to grasp a simple concept and I have to keep dumbing it down for you. I never said the privilege was to say that women as a group are less violent... Again, read slowly because you clearly can't keep up. I even agreed with the fact that women as a group are less violent. That isn't the privilege. The privilege is using that to treat individual women as less dangerous than individual men. Since I know you still won't get it here is a simple way to illustrate …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 08:23 PM
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That isn't what it means but I am not gonna explain it to a femcel lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 08:00 PM
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I actually think you are just stupid. Re-read what I said slowly until you get it. I never disputed your facts because there is no point. We are talking about if privileges exist not why they exist. Ok women as a group are less violent and aggressive... Again, that is just justifying the privilege. That doesn't dispute the privilege exists. If as a random woman you are not seen as dangerous and a random man is that is privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 07:59 PM
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Yep, it was pretty obvious from the start. You are too much of a femcel to argue in good faith
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 07:53 PM
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If you wanna make a case for if those priveleges are deserved that is a different argument. Point is even here your comment acknowledges they exist. If you have to justify them that does not disprove them. Your options are either disprove they exist or acknowledge them. Justifying them is a form of acknowledgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 07:52 PM
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It is a privelege... You are just justifying it. You clearly don't even understand what privelege is... You personally didn't do anything to earn that better treatment. You are treated better in those cases because of tree he actions of women or men as a whole. That is privelege...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 07:50 PM
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Yet this shows you aren't open lol. If you already know everything save everyone's time and don't have a discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 07:45 PM
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Most of what you listed is a privelege. Demonizing men and acting like women are less dangerous is a privelege. Similar to white privilege which does the same to minorities. If you are a woman you are already presumed to be safer than a man regardless if that is true for you as an individual. THAT IS A PRIVELEGE! Just because you try and justify it doesn't make it not so. You are just justifying your priveleges. If you are treated better for something you did not personally do that is a priveleg…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 07:25 PM
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You don't seem open to an honest discussion... Pretty privelege is a thing and it stems from being wanted. As a woman you are more likely to have it than a man. If you are a woman without pretty privelege then yes I agree you aren't priveleged. Pretty privelege is more powerful than any other privelege except maybe wealth. Idc what gender you are if you are attractive your life will be much easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 07:12 PM
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Yeah exactly ppl already snoop each other's phones or ask for access. This is literally the same thing. You could make the same arguments. Also like you said you can just not reveal the test was done. Demanding to see someone's phone will obviously start more shit than just snooping it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 02:02 AM
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Then you just breakup and move on. That's why you need to have options as well. Most girls tho won't resort to that so quickly and easily
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 12:34 AM
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Yeah that's mostly true but what I'm saying is if I'm unhappy or mad sex isn't happening either. If she is trying to push me around or tell me what I can or can't do I'm not gonna be happy. Also if she wants sex she isn't gonna try and start a conflict. I'm not gonna sacrifice power for sex tho either. That's just me. I would rather fight than give into her just to have sex. I think it creates better habits and respect in a relationship. I'm not gonna say I've never given in but I usually try no…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:54 PM
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Show me the research
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:46 PM
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Not really true because every man brings something different and men are less social then women. So plenty of men are invisible to women. A larger percent of men aren't even trying to date than women. A sizable portion of men have no social circle and just stay home...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:06 PM
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Yeah it's really sad... So much abuse from women towards men just gets dismissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:03 PM
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But if your girl doesn't just want sex naturally with you that's a prob. My girl also wants to keep me happy or we won't have sex and she wants sex too. It's a two way street. Sex isn't some reward for me for behaving lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:01 PM
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You sound weak or like you have no options. It's not that hard to not let someone control you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:59 PM
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Not true. Most guys give up their power early and end up in that situation. Keep being social, don't let her isolate you and keep meeting women and you can keep the power. If she sees other women into you, you will be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:56 PM
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Yeah this should be the top comment. It always comes down to options and power in the relationship. If you are a man with few options as good as her it will give her more power in the relationship and she will control you. Most men are pretty weak and don't have many options. The men that do don't let this shit slide... If women are with a man that has options and she didn't settle she won't treat him like that. Women disrespect weak or undesirable men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:54 PM
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That isn't how most men would react at all lol... Do you not know any men in your life? Most men wouldn't say anything and think he is strange and go about their day. Most men aren't trying to start a conflict or fight at all. You really should listen to all the men telling you that you have a strange perception of men cuz it's pretty obvious you don't know many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:37 PM
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Find men enthusiastic about children and being a father. Don't pressure men that don't want it. It will just lead you to doing most of the work. Most men are not nearly as interested in kids as women are and do it to please their partner. I rarely if ever hear guys talk about wanting kids or being excited about them in the future and if anything it's the opposite. That's why there is less investment and appreciation. It isn't something they wanted or wanted nearly as much. When men really are en…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 06:12 AM
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You really don't need to sacrifice your life and the kids don't always come first. Making sure you as a parent are happy and doing well is just as important. This whole kids always come first just creates miserable parents... Which is a bad environment for the kids anyways. Happy parents are better parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 11:59 PM
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Yeah true but honestly I just see this as lowering expectations for men in general. So for me that isn't a problem. Can't expect anything from bumbling idiots. Prolly why men weaponize incompetence so well at times. Ppl live up to your expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:23 AM
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Yeah the point is that women do it so often "I hate men" has been normalized. And even here you excuse it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 08:17 AM
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The thing is things are this way for women because you are assuming men and women want children equally and they don't. Women want kids much more than men. That's why men are less invested as fathers and women end up doing more of the labor in raising them. Women want them more. If it comes to taking care of that sports car tho the husband wants to do it all and likely wouldn't want to let his wife touch it. That's because that is something he actually wants. I'm not saying no father wants their…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 05:06 PM
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Right if women have moved on can they stop complaining about how men are in relationships constantly? Women are way too invested into who men date, how they date, how they act in relationships, etc. To take this post srsly. This is just like the men acting all men have moved on. Nope men and women will never collectively move on. They just aren't wired that way. I think these ppl are just trying to convince themselves more than anything. If you are alone and happy then go do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:10 PM
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Usually women wants kids much more than men. Men are more likely trying to avoid having kids. That's why kids are more of a burden to women. They want them more. That's the truth. When it comes to working on your sports car for example men do more work usually because that is work they want. They want the car and don't mind the work to care for it. Find men that actually want kids and want to be a father and are excited about the work. If you push fatherhood on them of course you will end up doi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 08:38 PM
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I don't know any guys that would want kids that young. Who wants to be tied down when they can be exploring life? Having kids young seems like the worst of the choices available
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 08:32 PM
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I agree anyone should be able to leave for anything. I'm just saying weaponizing leaving is abusive. You can leave without weaponizing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 06:59 PM
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I'm not saying anyone should be forced to stay. I'm saying weaponizing leaving to manipulate and get certain behavior is abusive. If you need to get permission it's abusive... They are your partner/equal not something to be controlled.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 06:49 PM
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No it is still abusive. Same as if I told my gf if she left the house with friends I didn't approve of I would break up with her. These are controlling behaviors and abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 06:30 PM
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There don't need to be positives beyond someone likes it. That's it. Porn isn't something that even needs to be defended. The problem is porn is mostly enjoyed by men. Society loves to tell men what they are allowed to do with their own bodies and sexuality. You could also argue that casual sex with multiple partners is damaging. But that is something both men and women enjoy. So there is pushback against slut shaming. Point is that no one needs to defend any of these activities and they are no …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:12 PM
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'Allow'... If you need your gfs permission to watch porn that is an abusive relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:06 PM
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This is what gets me... The same people that wanna control men's sexuality and think it is ok to tell men to watch less porn wouldn't think it's ok for people to criticize women for racking up sexual partners. Point is no one should be chiming in on another adult's sex life unless asked. Personally I think both are no one's business. If you don't wanna date men that watch porn don't. If you don't want women with a high sexual partner count don't. No one's right to try and tell ppl to slow down t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:04 PM
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That's racism. And a lot of feminism is actually just misandry...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 09:01 PM
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It doesn't matter if you aren't a man you are still a part of a race that opressed. Yes the hate is evident even in you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 08:59 PM
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Oppression doesn't excuse racism or sexism or hate... All your responses do is demonstrate the hate spread by feminism. Further even if you are a woman you are part of a race that has spread oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 08:32 PM
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They are just like women are in the above example...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 08:20 PM
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Women only care about innocent women receiving blame not innocent men or boys... Typical feminist That's how deep the hate runs with them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 08:02 PM
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We aren't blaming women specifically we are blaming the race. If she is a part of the race she is blamed yes... Just like we are also blaming innocent men for the men of that race that do commit crimes. Innocents are blamed yes and now you know why it's bad to spread hate and blame a whole group of ppl. Point is we are looking at race as much as you wanna bring gender into it and that includes everyone in that race.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:37 PM
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Go reread all my previous posts in this exchange I explained and gave examples
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:34 PM
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It does make sense to talk about race here because it easily demonstrates how feminism and you spread hate and why they are a hate movement
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:33 PM
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Nope you can be racist by using crime stats as an excuse to be hateful towards a certain race. You are pointijfh gout irrelevant facts. Crime stats has nothing to do with what I originally said except as an excuse for hate. So no it is sexist and to do the same to a certain race would be racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:31 PM
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Yeah but then we aren't assessing race we are assessing a cross section of race and gender. Again I'm talking only race. You can keep asking but point I'd I can use your same reasoning to justify racism be auseyou spread hate as feminism has taught.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:29 PM
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Gender doesn't matter for race. You can't split up race by gender lol. It does apply to race. Certain races are overrepresented in crime stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:17 PM
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Dividing ppl into buckets and assigning blame is spreading hate. You are just upset I won't spread hate the way you want. You are comfortable being sexist but not racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:15 PM
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Point is you say that because you are sexist but I don't have to continue down that hole. I can stop at race. We could also just say this race of ppl are the problem... Which ppl have done many times throughout history. I recognize the patterns of spreading hate. What you are doing is very transparent
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:14 PM
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Yep that's exactly what you are doing and what feminism encourages
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:12 PM
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Who cares? You just wanna bring it back to sex but we can stop at race. You are just uncomfortable doing what you do to men to ppl of a certain race. Which is spreading hate
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:11 PM
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I like how you resort to excusing the hate spread from feminism instead of denying it because we all know it exists. That is enough of an admission of guilt for me. Feminism is a movement that teaches and spreads hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:03 PM
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Point is we can take the same reasoning to be Racist by finding the race that commits the most crimes. Who cares if it's men we are talking race...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:01 PM
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Doesn't have to be 90% but I bet certain races commit much more
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 06:59 PM
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No it doesn't. That's just an excuse for sexism. So does race matter if one race commits more crimes? Secondly this is just posting on random spaces online asking for advice. Gender shouldn't matter in that case for the most part. No one is talking about crimes wtf... The fact you jukp to that shows you aren't genuine and is exactly what I'm talking about. Feminism has spread this hate for men. What the fuck so now men should be treated like shit at all times because some men commit crimes lol s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 06:57 PM
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No I am saying make a new post. If anything you are hindering conversation about male victims. Point is for the most part the gender shouldn't matter. But it does and it's why I advise ppl to post as women for better feedback and more empathy. Even you are just trying to excuse and brush the issue away instead of address it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 06:41 PM
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This is what feminism teaches. They spread hate against men and teach ppl to dehumanize men. It's pretty much a hate movement at this point. I've never seen hate spread against men so much as from feminism. To prove this: just go to any feminist leaning space and post the same issue with the victim being a man and the victim being a woman and see the difference in response.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 03:09 PM
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No a chubby face looks just as bad on women. Being fat is not and never will be attractive. So many men are just desperate and don't have standards. Nobody is meant to be as fat as some ppl are these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:37 PM
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Yeah but they are using them in a sexual way. In his mind it might not be sexual. If she is using him sexually in her mind tho it is sexual objectification and based on the fact she is dressing sexy for him she is. Taken another way if a guy is peeping on a woman but she is unaware is he still sexually objectifying her? I would say yes because of what's happening in his mind. How about if he is taking off his shirt to get a reaction from her? I guess to me if it is sexual in the the person doing…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 05:20 PM
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No I'm saying if she gets mad at you because you show no response. Say you are busy playing a game or something else and don't react. She is sexually objectifying you in that situation. She is sexualizing herself and expecting a response regardless of your feelings or wants at the moment. I get you are saying it's fine to sexualize her. I was talking about the other direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:18 PM
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But if she is dressing sexy for you and expecting a response isn't that sexually objectifying you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 04:13 PM
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Yeah I agree. I don't like marriage because I think it is stupid to mix romance and business but marrying your best friend I could see working. I would def consider that as a business arrangement for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:02 PM
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See I've seen it the other way around. Either way it sounds like we both agree marriage is a pretty shitty deal overall. I think the key is to just discourage marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:59 PM
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Just a woman explaining the male experience to us... Like we haven't lived it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:03 AM
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What you need to understand is society or strangers in general will never even consider a man's best interest. You shouldn't even bother to care what other ppl think because they aren't even trying to think about what is good for you or what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 10:35 PM
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No because chubby/fat ppl aren't as attractive. So those ppl needed an edge. Having an edge still doesn't make you more attractive. It's an attempt to make up for being less attractive. Also this is why women aren't as into fat guys. Fat is less attractive and they have enough options and aren't as desperate as the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:43 AM
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I think women can protect men tho. There are men that are wary about striking a women. A women breaking up a fight or getting in the way can end a fight sometimes because the guy won't wanna strike her accidentally. And if a guy does strike a women it usually causes a reaction. It really depends on the crowd. Sometimes a women is the perfect person to defend you and other times they aren't at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 10:31 PM
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I feel like you all just aren't social. I have had fun nights out with my boss who is 10+ years older than me. I've also hung out with guys 5/6 yrs younger. It really doesn't matter. What matter more is what type of person they are. As long as they aren't boring and down to have fun Idc how old they are. I've had a great time with either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:42 PM
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A lot. My boss is like that much older than me and when we go on work trips together we get smashed and have a good time. If you can only relate to ppl your age you probably just have poor social skills. Most of my coworkers are a good deal older than me and I get along with all of them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:29 PM
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Tbh I'm not worried about the 80/20 stuff really at all. I dony think you will ever find one comment of me being worried about it or complaining. I don't struggle there but I can understand those who do and complain. The marriage thing is a much bigger concern imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:16 PM
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Marriage has too many downsides still isn't worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:27 PM
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I disagree about the socialization stuff. It doesn't matter tho. Who cares? We both agree marriage is bad in general. Point is let's not promote it. We should be spreading the message that marriage hurts men and women. If you are anti-marriage let's not try and promote it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 06:24 PM
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My point is saying it's good for men is only encouraging marriage. I don't agree and secondly you shouldn't spread a message that hurts women and helps men and promotes something you are against. Hence why I don't believe you. It doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:22 PM
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If women want marriage more it likely benefits them more. It takes more than one study to draw meaningful conclusions and plenty of studies are flawed. Plenty of men are anti-marriage and women are pro-marriage. That says enough. If you truly are anti-marriage like me stop citing how great it is because it really isn't at all. You should be encouraging most ppl to not get married. If you act like marriage is so terrible for women but keep promoting it to men no one should believe what you are sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:53 PM
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Pretty much any man in a relationship is happier than a single man. That doesn't mean marriage is good for men. Again, you are saying your man is a rare man and most men aren't fit for marriage then telling men marriage is good for them... Stop it lol. If most men are poor partners stop promoting marriage. If marriage is so bad for women stop promoting it. If anything, you should say most ppl shouldn't get married but it can work for some ppl. Most married men I have met are miserable and tell m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:50 PM
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Most men I meet in the real world are warning younger men against marriage. I never hear men talk favorably about marriage. It is always women saying men like marriage never men... I wonder why! Also, I would wanna see data showing when those men are saying they are happily married. Everyone is happy when they are just married but it never lasts. Secondly why are you even trying to encourage marriage if it is so bad for women and good for men lol... That just makes me suspicious of your claims. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:42 PM
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Ok so don't get married then you dont have to worry about that. It's the men that get married that act like that. Most men that are dating don't live with their gfs. So you wont have that issue of being a slave if you avoid marriage. No one likes marriage so whats the point...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 03:34 PM
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Well to answer your question OP. I don't think you should get married. I think marriage is bad deal for both genders and locks them into an uncertain relationship. You can vet as much as you want but ppl change both men and women, their views on life change, their views on the relationship change, etc. Divorce is very common and there are just massive downsides to getting married to the wrong person. Too many married ppl seem less happy than new couples. I think any guy that gets married is dumb…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 05:44 AM
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Yeah I agree. Everyone can have their own goals in life and it's dumb to try and assign everyone the same ultimate goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 11:52 AM
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I mean I see this same thing pointed at men whenever there is talk about the downsides of marriage for men. I think it's fine for it to be an individual decision as it should but let's be consistent. Let's stop acting like marriage is a great thing for men and women. It is very situation dependent and it's very easy to end up in the wrong situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 11:50 AM
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She is a misandrist that is why... It is like asking a racist why they think it is acceptable. They are a shitty person. I'm sure there is some explanation but there really is no good reason to hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 08:26 AM
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No offense but you sound really inexperienced. I have ppl that I have had casual sex with years ago that have become really close friends. We are really close friends to this day years later and it started with casual sex. Casual sex has led to friendship and friendship has led to casual sex multiple times. Maybe you view casual sex as using someone as a fleshlight/didlo but that is not everyone. You can still like, respect, etc. someone you have casual sex with. You really shouldn't depend on b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:03 AM
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I agree that is the best version of sex but casual sex is great too. Just because one is great doesn't mean the other is shit. Also, ppl can like different things. Don't shame ppl for their sexual preference. If someone is more into casual sex that is just as valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:35 AM
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Tbh there's nothing wrong with that. Most ppl won't look out for you or even care about your best interests. It's up to you to prioritize yourself. If I'm poorer I will care more about social welfare and if I a making more $$ I would care about reducing my tax burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:32 AM
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Everyone needs to have a special pass to ride the safer train that includes a background check to get. I feel like that would be pretty easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:29 AM
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I am hypothesizing. I presented evidence to back my claim. If someone has evidence to the contrary I will concede. Point is we saw a drop in men initiating break ups. If you disagree find some data to prove it and I'll happily listen. You claiming it's just because women do the paperwork is a reach. I need proof to not just assume the person initiating the divorce is the one doing the paperwork. Sure you might be right in some cases but you need proof to show it affects the numbers substantially…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:04 PM
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You are making a claim that men leave marriages at the same rate. You need to prove that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 11:49 AM
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I didn't say anything about women and marriages... It does follow. If you think men are leaving relationships at the same rate while married prove it. My stat is all relationships in general. Even if that includes marriages it also includes normal relationships. Find me a stat that is exclusively marriages that show men leave at the same rate. Then you will have a point until then you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 11:42 AM
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You are trying to dispute the 80% of marriages stats. This data can't do that you are making assumptions. You would need a set of data just limited to marriages. The conclusions you are drawing are a reach. Why not just find data that is only marriages if that's what you are trying to show? Using the data I presented is dumb. Surely there must be better data out there to prove your point. Also my point was never really focused on the 80% stat. I just ran with it since it is so commonly stated as…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 11:25 AM
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It's relationships in general. It isn't strictly marriages. Even if it was only marriages it still doesn't support your point at all... So I don't see the point
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 09:52 AM
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Nope because if that were true that would hold for relationships as well and we can see it doesn't. Men only stick to bad decisions with marriages because they are trapped. The chart shows if they can leave they do..
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 09:30 AM
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True but I never listed the full set of cons or pros. I listed one con and you decided either it's not a con or relationships are not worth it lol.. that seems bad faith to me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:32 PM
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I wanted to point out it's a valid con. I never said I wasn't open to discussion. You are arguing in bad faith anyways. Just because I find a con doesn't mean I don't want or don't see value in a relationship. I am against marriage but relationships are fine. There are still cons to it tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:16 PM
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I don't want anything... I never said I wanted something. I am saying it's a con of a relationship that is all and you freaked out...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:09 PM
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Nah I already have one so too late lol but the point is you can acknowledge cons. Not everything is sunshine and a great deal in relationships. There are pros and cons and that is a valid con.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:02 PM
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Point is men are more likely to prioritize their career. I have more $$ single than in a relationship. So yeah that is just a negative of a relationship. If I had to live on a reduced budget that is also a con still.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 10:31 PM
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The real reason more divorces are initiated by women is because marriage traps men. Before marriage the rates of ending a relationship are much more even between men and women. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 10:28 PM
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Nah not all men. I'm around attractive women and have options so it takes more than that to get my interest. We gotta have good vibes too. She has to be fun and flirty to get my interest. If we are talking dating I wanna know her to see if she will be a good match. I'm not gonna just date someone cuz they are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:58 PM
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What kind of question is this lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:37 PM
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I never said it was all on the mom. Quote me where I said that. Why would the Dr care more about the child than the parents? The Dr will do whatever makes them $$.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:54 AM
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You don't have to know about anything. No one should be modifying gentials without consent. Idc what my mom or dad think... The only person that should be making decisions about my genitals like that is me when I am older. So if the dad wanted to just get your baby's dick pierced you would do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:28 AM
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Maybe because most of your posts have focused on how the children are the problem instead of how interventions can help and solutions within the system. I focused on what you responded to me with...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:52 AM
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It isn't hard to make a living as an adult with your full mental capabilities available to you. It isn't infinitely harder to work than go to school lmao. Speak for yourself. I am doing great in the real world. I get it tho somebody who would assign more responsibility to a child than adult would struggle. Yawn, this stupid person is doing better than you in life. Cry more how hard it is to make a living!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:50 AM
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I mean if you are in education I would say the staff needs training for biases against boys. Your first instinct was to continually blame the boys... They are children. The first instinct should be to look at the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:45 AM
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That's a big gap and it would actually mean 20% of boys are falling behind. 80% of 50 is 40. So 1 in every 5 boys is a problem child? You are still blaming the children, this is ridiculous! You literally are just saying it's because those boys have issues. Do girls not have issues as well? You are just insanely sexist! It isn't the fault of children. If that many boys are struggling it is something wrong with the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:41 AM
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You are blaming them. The problem isn't the kids. Especially not when looking at a whole gender of children that shouldn't even be brought up. Even in this reply you say you aren't blaming the kids and then say why it's the kids fault. If a whole gender is falling behind your example of a few kids being disruptive isn't relevant and again blames the kids...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:29 AM
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So your solution is blaming a whole gender of children. If boys are falling behind it's on the adults and system that is failing them. They have more responsibility than the children. They turned it around for girls they can do the same for boys. Might require different methods but they weren't out there blaming young girls. They found solutions for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:22 AM
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Are you so stupid you can't see the difference between an adult and child? You assign more responsibility to the child lmao dumb af
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:18 AM
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You just think only in sexist terms so only men can care about men? What about women and their sons? How would addressing circumcision now help men that had it done? Are fathers supposed to care about their sons more than the mothers? What about boys in single mom homes?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:15 AM
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Most of this is just putting the onus on men or children (boys).... Yet when women struggled it is we are not encouraging them enough, we need to setup affirmative action, etc. Just shows how prevelant sexism is against men. If women are struggling it's something wrong with society and not their fault. If men striggle it's their fault even as children...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:11 AM
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They don't control what is and isn't allowed to post and maybe that isn't for women. Like I said it's you going on a power trip and acting like ur opinion matters more. It doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 10:40 PM
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In your opinion it doesn't contribute. I disagree. You aren't the decision maker on what is a good contribution and what isn't. Your opinion isn't more important than anyone else's and there are plenty of posts that are weak contributions or don't contribute but I don't see you policing those
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:56 PM
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What other definition are you using? Just sounds like you know you are wrong and are looking for wiggle room... I never said I wanted as much proof as would be required in court. It's obvious you can't know intent and this are making a bad faith argument. If you can prove otherwise be my guest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:54 PM
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If anything the no derailing rules silence conversation. Plenty of p complain about subs that have no derail rules because they can't even have a conversation in them. Plenty of women say not all women. It doesn't matter if you know. That message isn't for you then. It's for the ppl that don't know or are unsure. Not every message is for you. You are trying to control how ppl respond not me. I am not trying to say how ppl should respond. You are trying to silence if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:48 PM
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We are so deep and yet everyone else is having a discussion. We haven't silenced anything. Show me ppl that we have silenced. Point them out. Because there are a ton of comments despite this 'silencing' which is bs. I never said we are in court I just said you acting like you know intent is a bad faith argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:41 PM
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Even tho you said try tho you can't silence discussion. It doesn't change my response. Are you and I silencing discussion by talking about this? How is us discussing this me trying to silence discussion when anyone can just collapse the thread and scroll by or join a different discussion. It was a stupid point and still is a stupid point... You won't be able to prove intent and you assume malicious intent so if anything you are just proving your ability to judge intent is poor. You are making ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:35 PM
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No it isn't. You can't derail a Convo online. Mulrie conversations are happening at once. You and I can talk about this for hours and everyone else can still go on and have a conversation about whatever. Calling it derailing is just a power grab to conte what is allowed to be talked about like in the AskWomen sub. If I got bit by a dog it actually vwould be helpful if ppl reminded me not all dogs bite because I would be afraid of all dogs for a while. Also regardless it's always easy to just ski…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:28 PM
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You are making assumptions and it happening so frequently makes it unlikely it's a bad faith argument. More likely ppl are just confused. How could you possibly know it's done in bad faith?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:06 PM
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It isn't about me. Point is that if ppl are specifying or mentioning not all men/women it is because they feel that way obviously. It happens so frequently because ppl are presenting it poorly enough that plenty of ppl are confused. It doesn't matter if you aren't plenty are...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:05 PM
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Not really, the discussion won't be silenced because some ppl are discussing this. That's just a stupid point. There are plenty of discussions going on. Just like right now we are discussing this but we didn't silence anyone at all. Other ppl can still comment and discuss. Doesn't matter if you repeat yourself. Ppl are still allowed to be confised. Have you never seen things need repeating online? If ppl are always confused then the person presenting is a poor communicator.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 06:00 PM
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Sure but that isn't clear to everyone hence why ppl wanna clear it up. If it was as obvious as you say ppl wouldn't feel they need to clear it up. If anything if ppl are confused it is on the person who is speaking to learn to make what they are communicating clearer. If you keep finding ppl are confused you should change how you are comunnicating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 03:44 PM
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It isn't pointless because the conversation is perceived as all men not a minority of men to plenty of ppl. Just because you perceive the conversation one way doesn't mean everyone else does. If ppl are saying not all men they think ppl are perceiving it as all men. So it does add to the conversation in that it helps avoid confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 02:38 PM
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First off, I am not lying about anything this is all a hypothetical. There is nothing to lie about so cut that shit out. All it means is we are not observing the same scenario. I have already said if costs are split I would split chores. That scenario has been addressed. So logically and as I have pointed out I am not talking about when costs are not split. Okay then do that. But it might mean living below your means. This is really only an issue when the partner who earns more wants the partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:25 PM
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Sure but I am not concerned with effort or hours worked. I am concerned with results. If you can cover your share of the financial burden in one hour good for you. I don't care if someone works all day but can't cover their share of the burden. The results are what matter and pay the bills not the effort. This isn't saying anyone is an employee. It means everyone must actually contribute and effort isn't a contribution. Getting things done or bringing in money for bills is a contribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:12 PM
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I chose numbers that would illustrate the point and make it clear. Which it looks like you got since you agreed with the premise. I didn't necessarily choose numbers that are common or would make sense with minimum wage. My point is that it's pretty much a math equation if someone makes less than the cost of hiring help they should stay home otherwise split the cost of the help and you both have no chores basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:10 PM
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If you can get men who do pay why are you complaining about men who don't lol... Any man who pays these days isn't masculine he's a simp
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 11:11 AM
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Just sounds like you respect masculinity more than feminity and then wonder why some men have trouble respecting women... There is nothing wrong with men acting feminine because feminity has a lot of great qualities. It promotes understanding, teamwork and talking about your problems and issues instead of burying them. Also a man isn't supposed to be anything. That is a full fledged human not someone that exists to make your life easier. You objectify men and only value what they can do for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 10:54 AM
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No men are wired to view sex as important but the amount of men I hear complaining about not being dads is miniscule in comparison for better or worse... I also rarely see men thinking about being a parent as much as they do sex. Being a parent has always seemed more important to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:11 AM
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Yeah, I would consider it. Depends on the lifestyle. Saving for a really young retirement though does interest me. Also, having low shared costs doesn't mean one partner can't splurge on other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:58 PM
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I mean part of being a good partner is planning ahead and choosing a good career. Yes, if you are a woman/man that didn't plan to contribute financially you better make up for it in some other way... Choosing a low-income job or field is not planning to be a good partner in my book
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:53 PM
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Then what is she bringing to the relationship? She would have to bring something else that is valuable as well. I am not interested in dead weight...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:50 PM
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It doesn't matter how much or little someone works. It matters who contributes what financially. If it takes me 40 hours a week to cover 10% of our financial costs. It probably isn't even worth it for me to work. It is better for me to just stay home and do the chores. If someone covers 10% of the costs I don't care if they work the same amount of hours. They are contributing less to the relationship. If they are both working full time and that makes sense instead of one say working 20-30 hours …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:48 PM
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I already suggested getting help as a solution in another comment. My point is that I am not gonna take on the majority of the financial burden and then split chores. If one person takes on majority of the financial burden the other can do the same for chores. I would also be ok with splitting both the financial and chore burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:36 PM
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If she makes 150k we could split costs and split chores. Better yet we could just hire help to clean and maintain the house... Check my other comments I have already addressed. I would do no chores if I am covering all the costs. Point is I am not gonna pay more and split chores. If I pay more I will do less chores or vice-versa. If the relationship isn't helping on time or $$ it is a bad deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:35 PM
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I would do the chores. That would be my contribution. I like cooking and cleaning to get to stay home and do my hobbies is a fine trade off for me. I never said doing chores wasn't a contribution and have always thought it was a way to help offset financial contributions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:30 PM
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I was asked questions that changed the scenario. Why should a person who earns less money have to put in more time, especially to clean up after the other person just because the other person makes more? Because they are contributing less to the relationship... It doesn't matter if you put in all the time in the world if nothing comes out of it. It doesn’t make sense you’re making more money does not turn your partner into your employee. I never said it does? If they want to split the chores eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:29 PM
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I have a long term gf
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 12:27 PM
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If I made 200k she wouldn't have to work full time. That would be her wanting to work which is up to her. We are definitely splitting things up tho. I am not gonna pay for everything and also do chores. If we are splitting costs I'll split chores. Basically it has to be even in results for me. If she doesn't wanna work and do chores that's cool too. If she is resentful of my situation then she isn't right for me. My gf in college had a dad that paid for everything and she never worked and it nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 12:26 PM
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You do tho. I mean you can run your relationship however you want. For me tho if I am making good $$ and I only work 20 hours a week I am not gonna pick up all the chores if I am also paying for everything. If I can make enough money to cover my portion of costs and then some in 20 hours a week and you can't I am not gonna be punished with all the chores lol... I would never accept that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 12:20 PM
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If someone made double what I make they could easily support me and her... And I wouldn't wanna work and would easily trade doing chores to pursue my hobbies and not work
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 12:12 PM
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ok then I would work reduced hours. Either way if one person is making more and the other is doing the majority of the chores it all comes down to $$. It is either cheaper to hire help and have both work or work reduced hours and be more productive doing chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 12:11 PM
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Hasn't been an issue for me in my relationships and I wouldn't want one where my smart decisions when I'm younger are punished. I wanna work less not more. Anyone who doesn't do that for my life can leave
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 12:01 PM
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Sounds like loser mentality tbh. You are rewarded based on performance pretty much always in my world and I hold my partner to the same standards. In school and work it's always been based on performance. Hell even in dating ppl care about results. No one cares if you are trying to get in good shape, they care that you are. Same with success
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 11:59 AM
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If she made double what I make... I wouldn't even have to work so in that case I wouldn't mind doing all the chores since she could cover the expenses. If she is putting more $$ into the relationship I should make up for it in other ways
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 11:55 AM
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Nah see this misses the big picture. I am in a position to make a ton of $$ now because I grinded and put in the work when I was younger. I did that to make my life easier not pick up extra work. If we aren't splitting the $$ costs evenly I'm not splitting the chores evenly either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 11:53 AM
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That's fair
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:21 PM
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Sex even casual sex can be empowering in a bunch of ways. It can allow you to explore your sexual side free from judgement with ppl you know. It can let you expore different dynamics and increase confidence in your body and attractiveness. I'm not saying it will always play out great. It can go poorly but it can also go well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:05 AM
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Their fears don't have to be equal and every person's fears are not equal. You view everything through the lens of gender instead of as ppl. No two ppl have the exact same experiences. Point is that doing that will only lead to toxicity and poor connections. Thank you for the wishes tho and same to you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 10:27 PM
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Being safe or cautious isn't that. Hell I am safe an cautious and I know plenty of women that are that don't have that mentality. Being safe and cautious is something women should do and even men should do. I'm saying temporarily trashing the other gender because of a bad experience or venting is fine everyone is human and needs to express their emotions. Stayinb in that place will only lead to toxic relationships because you can't see them as ppl. You can still be cautious and not do that. Plen…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 10:16 PM
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We are going in circles because you are ignoring everything I say to focus on your one point. We can have two conversations at once. So what do you think of the rest of what was said?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 09:17 PM
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Well I wasn't interested in the context of marrying for sex because I think it is stupid as I already said. I also said tho I was willing to hear you out even tho it isn't really something I think ppl should do. Even if you married with that intent how is a woman trapped? She can still refuse sex. I wanna get past this point but you keep bringing it back to this...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 09:16 PM
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You are still in a committed relationship. You can both avoid the nasty fallout of divorce. If you are with someone in the friend group it is easier to keep the friend group together after splitting up. You are not making a man stay with you for financial reasons. Which will only lead to unhappiness, cheating and resentment... You can both move on easier and quicker. Pressuring someone to stay with you through legal means will never lead to good outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:56 PM
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Yep great point! Most men don't have many options so acting like they have a great chance of a good outcome by picking well is just stupid. If you only have like 3 options there is a high chance they might all be poor options. Also, people will change over time. There is no way to pick perfectly!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:51 PM
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Ok yeah I agree those points were stupid and really just distract from the conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:45 PM
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Yep, I completely agree and I would argue this is the smarter move financially!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:45 PM
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Point is combining assets makes the split hurt more. If you combine assets... yes, you will get a similar outcome to divorce though to a lesser degree. You shouldn't make a financial bet on something that has been proven to be so shaky. Combining assets or getting married is a really irresponsible and stupid financial decision. I am in a LTR right now and don't combine assets. I buy my own cars, goods, own rent, etc. You can adult and not combine assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:43 PM
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Well at least in the US (my country) I don't see how marriage traps women in a way that forces them to have sex with men. If you have an explanation I am willing to listen but women are free to not have sex in marriage. In fact if sex is your goal I would say marriage doesn't really help that unless you struggle to attract women. Sex dies down in long term relationships. If you want sex, a series of medium length relationships is prolly best for that. I don't optimize my life around sex though. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:39 PM
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I am saying that if you don't view a gender as ppl you will never be able to connect to them and form a real relationship in the first place. At this point you are just talking past me. Every woman lives in that reality but not every woman jumps to calling men trash and not seeing them as ppl. I don't really see what your point has to do with anything. Saying it is men like that is a point that matters kinda proves my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:21 PM
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You can be safe and still see the other gender as ppl. Most of your stuff is reasonable. You don't know these men. I wouldn't leave a women unsupervised in my place until I know her really well. She might steal stuff. There is nothing wrong with being cautious but I don't think that's calling women or men trash. You can't actually connect with the other gender if you don't view them as ppl is my point. So it will just lead to poor outcomes in dating. In my experience though the trash phase is us…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 11:37 AM
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All I am saying is do I agree with marrying for sex nope! That is stupid and if you can't get sex before marriage things probably won't be much better after marriage. To me that is just stupid! Do I agree with the OP that marriage is too risky for men yes! It traps men and most ppl don't enter into a relationship or marriage just for sex. If anything in most of my relationships I am the one that turns down sex. Plenty of men turn down sex this sub is just full of men that don't get sex. My point…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 11:29 AM
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I don't usually feel offended because I get they are venting same if a guy friend is trashing women because of a poor experience. Which has also happened just without the women are trash catchphrase. Sure women and all women aren't the same thing but it isn't a healthy mentality. The men and women that shit on the other gender still try and date so I know they don't think all women or men are like that. They are usually just frustrated with the dating experience. It blocks them from seeing the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 11:12 AM
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I never said to marry for free sex... I am not OP. Most ppl marry for the connection and still end up divorced and that doesn't negate what I said at all. Having a decent connection doesn't mean you will always have a decent connection. Are you a child? Have you never been in a relationship? Plenty of relationships start with a decent connection and end in a break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 10:41 AM
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Or just don't get married and then it doesn't matter. If the relationship fails you just date someone new. Everyone's rebuttal is just you need to pick perfectly like that is so easy or realistic. Just shows how stupid an idea marriage is that this is the only solution ppl can come up with...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 10:28 AM
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No one is saying men should be single... Half of these posters are just dumb. You can be in a LTR without getting married. He is just saying the fallout from divorce is too risky.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 10:26 AM
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Just because you don't get married doesn't mean you are miserable. Were you miserable when you were in a LTR and not married?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 10:24 AM
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Point is that marriage traps men, period! Instead of being able to make a clean break and date someone new you are trapped and have to cling to try and make it work or face a huge financial setback
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 10:21 AM
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For me it isn't if I make out better after a divorce. It is that it is a huge setback financially... Just because I am doing better than my ex-partner, so what? Why would I care?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 10:20 AM
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I don't think women are 'evil' and it isn't evil to divorce or even cheat imo. Humans make mistakes. I think for something to be evil you need malicious intent to harm someone. Which is usually not the case... What is true though is like you said most marriages end in divorce and that is usually a bad deal for a guy or a provider. If you plan to be a provider protect your assets and don't get married. If you have assets at all don't get married. You can have a fulfilling relationship and love ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 10:14 AM
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No I know plenty of women that say men are trash just because men won't commit to them. In fact that is the most common reason I've seen it said in real life. Most of my friends are women so I encounter it unfortunately... I let it slide because I get they are venting but it's annoying sometimes. The women I am friends with that do really well with men almost never say it. It is the women that men kinda treat worse in dating by not committing, are rude towards or not giving a chance as much that…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 09:14 AM
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If it's a personal preference that someone do that and important to your relationship who am I to say it isn't valid... Yes that preference is just as valid as whatever preference I have. The fact you don't get that makes you sound controlling. You don't get to decide for other ppl what is valid or important to them... Yes I agree compatible preferences is important
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:17 AM
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As long as everyone is adults it really doesn't matter. Ppl can get into age gaps if they want. The creppy things ppl trying to control what other ppl do with their sexual experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:56 AM
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I really don't think a preference needs to be 'valid'. Who cares if it's superficial or better helps child rearing... It really doesn't matter it's a personal preference. Framing it in a way that some preferences are more valid is manipulative
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:53 AM
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Same my friend recently had a flat tire and she called me to help. I saw the text/call and went back to bed and texted now wasn't a good time. You aren't obligated to let ppl take advantage of you and saying NO doesn't make you a bad friend or person. We are still great friends and she found someone else. There are things I will help ppl with and others I don't wanna do. If that bothers ppl oh well idc...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 07:00 PM
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A lot of men are not as excited to actually be a parent as women. If it was completely up to men there would be a lot less children. Basically don't expect men to be an enthusiastic parent if it is something you are pushing onto them. Find men that genuinely want to be an active parent and are excited about it. Whenever you pressure or push someone to do something they aren't enthusiastic about or don't really want those are the predictable results. This is another reason why you should also act…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:04 PM
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How? You can use them like people use ppl all the time. You can extract $$, act immature, weaponize incompetence, be controlling, etc. You can manipulate by the fact that you are more coveted. If you are expected to be immature because you are younger you can weaponize that. I guess it's surprising to me you can't think of any ways a younger hotter person couldn't be manipulative... You say older ppl should have awareness but being older doesn't make you smarter or even more aware. There are ple…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 10:38 AM
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A young person can manipulate an older person because they might have more power in the relationship. You don't need much experience to quickly realize who has more power. Whoever is more coveted has more power. The older person will have more trouble finding a replacement than vice versa. I dated older and had way more power because I was so wanted I was spoiled.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:12 AM
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I never see men complaining about not getting married. They complain about sex. It's always men talking about not wanting to get married if anything all over social media and in real life older men warn younger men. The only men I know that talk about marriage are my religious friends. Most men aren't actively thinking about or excited to get married. Also on social media it is always men trashing marriage and women defending marriage. Just makes it seem unlikely it is women who are choosing not…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 07:31 AM
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Because of how you phrase it that you were used. It gives the impression that you aren't considering valid reasons that she may have been interested in pursuing a relationship but changed her mind. It sounds like in your mind if you don't get what you want you were used which is kinda manipulative. If you really want sex in a relationship just wait to have sex until you are in a relationship because having sex even between ppl looking for a relationship is never a guarantee of a relationship. I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:32 AM
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You aren't entitled to a relationship just because you guys had sex and maybe it was the crying after sex that made her choose to pursue someone else. You have an entitled attitude and seem like you have emotional baggage. Anyone can change their mind at anytime. Also you seem to think the worst of ppl. You have a bad mindset. You only focus on what you want and show no concern for what she wants. From my pov she made a solid choice in skipping you. Maybe she did want a relationship but changed …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:23 AM
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I agree men will eventually get bored if the woman isn't doing things to mix it up or push new boundaries or directions. Eventually all sex will get boring if it's the same shit all the time. So in the long run both partners will need to up their game to keep the other person interested
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 01:38 PM
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Most ppl don't really care if you are single or who you are dating. I think you are making it seem like a bigger deal than it is. There will prolly be a period where it is weird but if enough men like them that will go away and no one will care. As for status most men don't really have much status anyways and don't seem to care. Having a gf doesn't give u status and it's weird you think it does imo. Maybe around ppl who never get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 06:02 PM
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See that seems assholeish to me because you are acting entitled to a certain response. Also no empathy for the additional burden of taking someone else home late at night or even concern if that is something they want to do. To me that would make you the asshole. I wouldn't ask a stranger for a ride home because I would consider all those things and not just my wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 07:25 AM
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I never mentioned what those things were because everyone has a different list. Secondly I said men and women so nope it isn't mysogyny at all. If anything it's misandry for you to completely ignore that. Not really I am not adressing women at large at all. I never said all women need to shave and explicity said this only would apply to the girl I am dating. Am I dating every girl lmao. You are just looking for reasons to be offended and I don't care if you are. It's not my fault if you can't un…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 02:10 PM
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I never said it was facts. I literally ended it by saying idc what other women do I am speaking about the girl I'm dating... I am speaking my preference. Before you get offended and talk about facts learn to read. You want a hairy girl do you...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 01:56 PM
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Yeah I agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 12:48 PM
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Ehh I disagree. If there were no buyers women wouldn't be so upset about the standards. You are on the internet too much I think. There are men that can have standards and have buyers and that is what makes women upset is because usually it is the opposite. So when men have standards women are upset because most men don't have any so they aren't as used to it. The men women want tho usually do have standards like anyone with options does really..
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 12:47 PM
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Some things look better on men vs women and vice versa. I'm sure most women don't want their men wearing a face full of makeup. A girl having arm pit hair would be a big turn off... Idc if other women do it just not my gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 12:43 PM
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Nope that literally is not even close to what I said and in some ways the opposite... Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:23 PM
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You don't have to engage with every post or comment. I choose what I want to engage with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:22 PM
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I'm aware what's posted here but I didn't say that so don't act like I did. I don't even care for the rest of your dumb post. I am talking about marriage. You are obsessed with talking about the red pill. Has literally nothing to do with the point I brought up.. You are too stupid to even understand my points. That why you keep changing the subject
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 03:41 PM
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Also it's not about anyone trying to steal your money, it's called reducing risk... You don't generate and maintain wealth by taking unecessary risk. I'm not surprised you can't see the difference though. You don't seem very bright. I only typed a few paragraphs you don't need to make up a whole new scenario just because you couldn't understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 03:37 PM
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I never said anything about men getting dates. But that would be different groups of men... Are you intentionally trying to act stupid or actually this stupid? That should be an obvious answer to anyone with any life experience
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 03:33 PM
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There doesn't need to be posts on here telling men to get married. There is plenty of pressure already in the real world. And really men shouldn't get married no one should. It carries way too much risk and frankly you are an idiot if you do. More ppl need to know that you don't need to get married. You can still have a long deep and meaningful relationship without it, like ppl have been doing for years before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 02:51 PM
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You are the one posting a ton of messages in this thread. Who cares what other ppl post... If it bothers you move on. And marriage is stupid you just sound like a controlling person that is upset ppl don't see marriage as you do
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 02:26 PM
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I literally posted one reply in this thread. If anyone is yelling it's you lol... And no, more ppl should talk about how bad of an idea it is to get married. Ppl talking about it in person and online is what helped me decide to avoid marriage. If you don't like hearing it just leave the thread... It isn't that hard. No one is forcing you sit here and get 'yelled' at
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 02:02 PM
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Better solution is to just not get married and opt out of involving the state in your relationship... Legal marriage is just a dumb system and we really don't need the state involved in these affairs. It should just be a religious practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 06:17 AM
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You are mixing up different groups of men. Yes plenty of men are desperate for sex and obsess over it because for them it is hard to attain. Those men will likely settle and do a relationship if it gives them access to sex. Men who are willing to walk away after having sex aren't those men. Those are men with options and all it means is they had sex with you but realized they have better options... Most men with options aren't gonna be easy to get to settle down into a relationship. That doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 05:04 AM
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Ppl are allowed to change their minds. Maybe the sex sucked or you find out sexually you aren't on the same page or she changes after sex or someone else that catches your interest more comes along, etc. There are a ton of reasons someone could change their kind after sex. No one is entitled to a relationship just because they had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 02:37 AM
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So I don't think casual sex has anything to do with it tbh. I have friends that are girls that have guys into them but they don't want an average or below average guy. And some of them aren't even into casual sex. They want help with their dating life but they won't accept that they are not on the same lvl as the guys they want. So they are becoming toxic about men and depressed about their dating life... To be fair tho I also have friends that are girls that are totally willing to date normal a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:54 AM
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So pretty much men are not allowed to be a full person and are objectified... I just think seeing men as a protector and that they have to fill that role is really limiting and doesn't really treat them as a human. There is much more to half the population than 'protector' and plenty of ways to be attractive without being a protector
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 10:37 PM
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Depends on your value and what you expect of your relationship. If I'm putting in more work, not getting gifts, etc. She will hear about it and things will change or I will leave. You set the expectations when it comes to your relationship. If you don't value yourself, you can't blame others for not valuing you. Basically don't be a simp and you wont have this problem...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 03:54 PM
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Wrong again and I can tell you haven't read the paper since one of the examples I used earlier was literally taken from it... The window example
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:24 PM
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Nope... Try again. That isn't what I am asking
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:23 PM
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This isn't a discussion about biological parents as I said previously.... It's about legal rights
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:21 PM
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Ok then show me... I have seen examples of what I am talking about in real life. Should be easy to find
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:20 PM
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They do not have reproductive rights. I am not asking about a medical procedure and you know that. You are being intentionally stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:19 PM
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Yeah I did we had to for the class... Bodily autonomy was part of consent. It was a sub-section of consent. Consent was the broader topic. There was much more than just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:19 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:18 PM
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Show me some examples... I have not seen that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:17 PM
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Consent to sex is not consent to be a parent. Plenty of ppl have sex with no intentions to be a parent
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:16 PM
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And it also does if men have to be responsible then so should women and abortion should be illegal... Your arguments against men could easily be used against women. You are just sexist so don't even notice
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:15 PM
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But I am not talking about accidental pregnancy I am talking about the birth...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:14 PM
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Actually it doesn't and I suggest you take a woman's studies class. I studies this in college so I know how it came about originally and a huge issue was consent... In fact there are famous papers on it from back then
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:13 PM
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They will still take the drivers insurance and he will be responsible for the dmgs
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:12 PM
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No you just ignore consent because you are a creppy rapey person. There is consent and we have the tools to value it. Yes sperm and eggs cannot consent. I am asking for the ppl that can consent to do so not the random cells doing the fertilization...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:12 PM
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Nope the birth
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:09 PM
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Does a woman not have agency when she opens her legs? So abortion should be illegal... Thanks for clearing that up
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:09 PM
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It doesn't matter the driver was in control of the car... No one cares. That isn't how those situations go
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:08 PM
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So you don't value men's consent... Yeah you are just a rapey person. Ppl like you make me question why I support abortion in the first place lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:07 PM
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No, the accident is the child being born. The abortion is like pressing the brake. Either way the fact we can't even agree what is the accident shows how poor the analogy is...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:06 PM
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They both caused it in my analogy... Just like they both do in real life. The fault would still lie with the woman if we treated it like a car accident. She is the driver.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:05 PM
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You have a just view of the world that is inaccurate... That isn't how it works. The fault always goes to the driver.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:04 PM
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No abortion is a way to prevent the accident in the first place. It is also a reproductive right for women. Men should have something similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:03 PM
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Also if anything a child is like a man and woman getting into a car they both purchased together but the woman is driving. So if anything in your analogy it is her responsibility. The woman has plenty of time to stop the car and prevent the accident. A legal abortion is just the man saying if you continue on this path and get in an accident I will not be responsible. She still has time to prevent it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:01 PM
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Not really. The driver is always at fault. Their insurance will be charged. I have seen it happen with friends that have ubered. Sure you could try suing for damages... As the driver though it isn't guarenteed at all...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:55 PM
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The traffic accidents is a terrible analogy. A child isn't a traffic accident lol. And there are plenty of examples where you cause something and don't need to take responsibility. If it is all about taking responsibility, then abortion shouldn't be a thing...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:54 PM
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You can't think of one example? Distract the driver, grab the driver, etc. So many ways...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:52 PM
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Not without consent... You are just saying you don't value consent which is rapey and dangerous. Also, in that case Abortion should be illegal as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:48 PM
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Nope not necessarily. I could be the passenger and I am not
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:46 PM
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It doesn't matter if it mostly does... We aren't talking about how things are right now... That's like me saying abortion should be a right everywhere in the US and you bring up as a point the places it isn't available...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:45 PM
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If you cause someone to be late for work because you took longer than normal with their starbucks order are you responsible for the fallout? There are plenty of situations where you can cause something and not be responsible. Also, you could cause an accident as a passenger and not be responsible for the damages.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:44 PM
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Yes sex causes a child but you cannot imply consent to be a parent from sex. Just because something causes something doesn't make it your responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:41 PM
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It doesn't always and it doesn't need to. Consent is that important
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:40 PM
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No it doesn't and just because I cause something doesn't imply responsibility. If I consent to take responsibility, then you would be right. Without consent there are no reproductive rights and no responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:38 PM
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Sure, biological parent but I am talking about legally the parent. We have full control to value consent on that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:34 PM
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The DMV is the govt consenting to let you drive if anything. I am saying the sperm fertilizing the egg happens during sex very infrequently, but it happens. Of course, it is still sex if that doesn't happen as I stated earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:33 PM
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It is because they cannot consent that we need a legal consent form AKA a legal abortion... If the egg and sperm could consent it would solve a lot of issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:31 PM
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I am saying it doesn't matter. I can still consent to be a parent. Just because a man's sperm and a woman's egg created a child doesn't mean you have to be a parent or you consented to be a parent. They are not sentient they cannot give consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:30 PM
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No one asks for consent for driving a car lol... The act of sperm fertilizing an egg is a sexual act. That is sex... Honestly you just sound dangerous and like you don't value men's consent during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:27 PM
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Yes, there is consent... It doesn't matter if the egg and sperm are not sentient. We are not asking them for consent. We are asking the man and woman for consent. Ppl can still consent. I can consent to be a parent regardless of what my sperm does. A woman can consent to be a parent regardless of what the egg does.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:26 PM
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So you are saying consent doesn't matter? That is your stance? This is a sexual situation and you are saying consent doesn't matter and that doesn't raise red flags...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:17 PM
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Ok well then in your scenario ppl should be able to sue for damages... That still doesn't deal with the issue of consent. Men still wouldn't have reproductive rights they would just have the right to sue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 04:16 PM
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Traffic accidents are about causing harm to someone else. I mean I guess if a guy cums in a women without consent or she has a pregnancy without his consent we could consider that harm and ask for damages... That is outside the scope of what I am discussing though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 03:57 PM
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If I consent to sex that doesn't mean I consent to creating children even if they happen to be a potential low-probability side effect.... If I consent to choking during sex that doesn't mean I consent to passing out from choking even if that is a potential cause from that action... If I consent to sex that doesn't mean I consent to everything you might want out of sex.... Consent is very specific. If I leave a window open that doesn't mean I consent to being robbed even if it is a potential res…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 03:54 PM
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No women will still have an abortion to avoid pregnancy and have their consent valued... What you want is to ignore consent for men... It isn't responsibility if you never consented. I said both of their behavior contributed to the pregnancy. That doesn't mean they are responsible if they didn't consent to create a child. You cannot have reproductive rights if your consent isn't valued...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 03:45 PM
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Yes it is both of their behavior... I never said it wasn't and I am not saying to remove any rights for women. I just want to have reproductive rights as well... Odd you are so against consent and reproduce rights...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 02:15 PM
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And no one is asking for that and they don't have reproductive rights if they are forced to take responsibility for a child they never consented to... I am just introducing consent into the equation for men like it is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 02:07 PM
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I never said an opt out was fun... Regardless women in places where abortion is legal have reproductive rights and men should have the same...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 01:19 PM
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The opt out is abortion... If abortion is legal so should a legal abortion where before the child is born father's can relinquish all responsibility and rights in the event it is born
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 01:06 PM
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Father's should just get an opt out that leaves the mother enough time to make an informed decision. Then it is her choice from there and she would know if she is going it alone or with the help of the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 12:49 PM
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You are just a simp... For some ppl this is the only way they know how to attract ppl. I don't put anyone above me and that's how it should be for everyone... I don't expect others to put me above them. That doesn't mean I don't care but everyone should put themselves first or they are a simp....
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 12:43 PM
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No he isn't. He looks much better than the average guy and is tall. That already makes him much better looking than an average guy...
/r/AllPillDebate30/01/23 09:40 PM
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It is just women trying to control men's sexuality through shaming. Of course older women don't wanna compete against younger women. Same way men try to shame women into not discriminating against short men. If someone is trying to shame you they are trying to control and manipulate you. If it's between 2 consenting adults it is fine and no one's business.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 02:11 PM
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Men use women and women use men. It really is just that attractive ppl tend to use ppl because ppl offer themselves up to be used. If you are a used man or woman it is your fault. No one can force you to be used. You offered that up yourself. If I see posts from men or women complaining about being used you were prolly with someone out of your league tbh...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 09:41 PM
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No he is saying men go through more harm at the hands of men and don't resort to objectifying, dehumanizing and being sexist towards men. They still treat them as humans. Women using the fear excuse just means they are a shitty person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 09:00 PM
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Women don't care if you cheat or are a playboy... You live an innocent life. Women in relationships flirt with me all the time they dgaf... If you are hot you can pretty much do whatever you want. Ppl who think otherwise are obviously not that attractive or they would already know this...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 05:14 AM
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They don't do it in groups like this on the internet. Scale matters. Humiliation with a couple sfriends is different than publicly humiliating someone online because Scale matters. Same thing here. This is much worse than what you described.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 05:11 AM
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I just wanna see how far this goes before you eventually got bored and wander off. Sue me. Won't happen! I might disappear for hours/days but I always come back. Let me know if you’re gonna come up with some weird Q stuff though, that shit gets weird. Dunno what you are talking about? Still missing the point and now inventing a new narrative This is the original convo. I can link to the comment way earlier in the thread. Still how deep have we gone with no resolution because you cleverly keep tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:57 PM
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I really don't care about it. You are the one that keeps bringing it up. Feel free to insult as much as you want. It really doesn't bother me but if it helps my argument, I will use it. It is as simple as that. You are making up a whole world in your head have fun! This is what you call a meltdown lol. You are funny! I actually really wasn't mad. I literally replied to everyone that responded to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:54 PM
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Anyways this was fun! We had a good debate. There really is no shame in being wrong. Happens to everyone. If you actually find a good quote link it otherwise this is pretty much over.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:50 PM
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Not agreeing with you=triggered. Got it. Next you’ll tell me not huffing your farts means I don’t respect men or something. Nope like I clearly said other ppl disagreed and weren't triggered. Am I supposed to care? Yeah, since you keep asking why I said you were triggered you clearly cared, or you would have dropped it by now. Says the person who thinks a disagreement means a force way of living. That literally isn't what I think and have explained as much in another comment previously. Well I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:47 PM
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I'm not complaining about the insult. Wrong again. I was just pointing out an example of your immaturity. You asked me to point it out and now won't stop whining that I fulfilled your request lol... I would probably take it better than you. You can't even seem to handle ppl disagreeing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:43 PM
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No, I enjoy the debate. That is why I come to this sub. So, no reason to stop. but when it was pointed out your first reaction was to assume the one doing the pointing is triggered. Look at the tone in your initial response. It was clear you were. I didn't say anyone else that responded to me was triggered because their tone was completely different than yours even if they disagreed with my take. So, you don't have a quote for me? Looks like you were wrong and are just too small to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:36 PM
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How did you make it through high school? Clearly don't understand what an insult is... Also, I was highlighting the insult because you called me immature and proceed to be immature which is funny and ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:31 PM
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Immature whining and bathing in the waters of self victimhood, sorry I got the two mixed up. Seems you are constantly 'getting things mixed up' Here’s one You didn't paste anything? I assume you meant to paste the quote. No, but I’m proficient in double speak so while you say it your words and anger say otherwise, after you think anyone who isn’t onboard with your beliefs wants to control people to live how they personally want others to live. I don’t understand why people here are so fucking sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:26 PM
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Also, I wasn't even the one who received the critique it was another user lmao. I was just defending them for the reasons I said previously...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:16 PM
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Yes they were... The commenter literally said certain ppl should not be allowed to have kids if they don't follow her life plan... Instead of guessing what it sounds like you could just read the thread and actually be informed...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:13 PM
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Look at the paranoia filled source material I’m working with: you Show me the paranoia lol. I never said everyone needs a paternity test. Ah yes the “no u” retort. Low effort insult, low effort response. I’m not licking your asshole and calling you “mi’lord” so you think I’m triggered. That’s nice. Neither is anyone else... Yet you are the only one I called triggered for a reason. Try again. If you feel shamed that’s on you. If anything I’ve said makes you feel shamed then again, that says more …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:06 PM
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I didn't say it had to be a nice critique you are misinterpreting my statement... 🤔 Ok respecting choices was worded poorly. You shouldnt try and act like you have authority over how other ppl live their life. Basically don't tell other ppl how they should live their life. You don't have to respect it but you don't have the right to tell ppl how to live it. To do so is a red flag and shows toxic controlling behavior...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:58 PM
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Screaming lol... This is Reddit. There is no screaming going on 😂. What's my example that everyone should follow lmao? Plz quote me... I never said ppl need to follow my example.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:48 PM
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You can critique while also respecting other ppls choices and way of life... I critique and receive criticism all the time in my line of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:45 PM
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Dysfunction is actually when you would be more likely to want a paternity test and men don't need a valid excuse to get one... Your way of thinking is backwards. You treat men like children that constantly need your permission or validation for their choices. My belief is to respect ppls choices and assume they know their own situation better than I do...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:42 PM
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Tons of assumptions and no substance expected... You don't sound mature enough to even have a conversation. Clearly you got triggered here... Also read what I said. I am championing respecting ppls choices whether they want a paternity test or not.... I just don't believe in shaming and manipulating ppl to try and force them to follow your beliefs like you are trying to do. You are clearly bothered by other having the freedom to make their own choices and that is toxic... I'm not surprised you i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:39 PM
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Not really I haven't dictated how ppl should live their lives at all... Point out examples
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 08:33 PM
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The right to walk away isn't what I was talking about lol... I also acknowledged that in the post read it again. Your tone and approach is completely different with men vs women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:33 PM
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I'm championing respecting ppls choices... I never said that is my choice I simply said we do not get to act like we have the authority or right to dictate how other ppl live their life or the choices they get to make. That is dangerous, ignorant and insulting to everyone else who likely understand their situations better than we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:31 PM
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See how you immediately try and empathize with the women's situation and find times it is reasonable to ask lol... Yet with men it was all they shouldn't be in a relationship and it's their fault... The sexism is real... Everyone has the right to walk away from a relationship at any time. That is irrelevant. If the man/woman wanted to walk away they wouldn't be asking questions or to see phones or for a paternity test. They are insecure and wanna be proven they were worried for no reason and sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:25 PM
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Have you never accused or questioned your bf/husband? I know how that would feel. Most ppl have likely been questioned by their partner about sus behavior with another man/woman due to an insecurity. It's fairly common. Most ppl don't trust unconditionally even in a relationship... Most ppl have a ton of boundaries around what their partner can do with someone of the opposite sex because they are so untrusting...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:21 PM
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Nope not excuses. You are just controlling and believe everyone has to live their life how you see fit...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:16 PM
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So if a girl ever questions a guys faithfulness he should leave? All those gfs asking to see their bfs phone or questioning a certain friendship or interaction... Guess they are red flags that should be dumped. Those women shouldn't need to question they should only be in relationships with men they trust. So it is their fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:14 PM
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Still worth it to get clarity. I also get offended when my gf gets insecure about my friendships with other girls but I push that aside and use it as an opportunity to demonstrate why she can trust me and relieve the insecurity she has.... That's what a good partner does. A bad one will make it a big deal and be toxic about it....
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 02:11 PM
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Ppl don't need to follow your rules for procreation... It is fine is someone wants to procreate with someone they don't trust unconditionally. Unconditional trust is almost never given in a relationship anyways. Most ppl are very insecure and prone to jealousy. Do you ask this many questions and invalidate their relationship if a woman suspects her bf or husband is being unfaithful. Do you badger her for attempting to find the truth? Do you tell her to have faith and she shouldn't be in a relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:52 PM
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Men just have low standards. A woman having a lot of likes doesn't mean she is attractive. Most guys could get the same number by changing their profile from looking for 'Women' to 'Men'. On those apps men will swipe on anything it is sad and too many men just can't control their horniness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 10:07 PM
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I know you aren't saying I have to agree with you. I'm just saying for me like you are saying for you. I don't care if ppl cheat in general unless it's on someone I care about but I'm saying I wouldn't wanna date someone that did. But for everyone else it isn't my business.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 11:57 PM
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Most ppl in actually abusive situations aren't thinking about cheating but surviving... This is just other women trying to take advantage of other ppls trauma for a free pass to cheat. I actually grew up around this and in shelters with other families and ppl aren't cheating... You ppl are outta touch. They are way too busy trying to fix their lives. Also just jumping to a random man to be a savior is just as dangerous especially with kids involved. Sure you aren't thinking as clearly agreed and…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 11:26 PM
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I literally grew up living this and saw plenty of ppl get out without cheating including my mom. No you don't need to cheat to get out of this situation... There are plenty of resources available for abuse victims and their families so they don't need to sleep with other men to get out. Not everyone wants to leave an abusive situation... That is the number one reason. Just because a relationship is abusive doesn't mean they want to end it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 11:13 PM
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It's not about sympathy for the abuser it is about showing that person is a cheater. Just because they are an abuser doesn't mean you aren't a cheater if u cheat. Also you can get out of a bad situation without cheating. No one needs to cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 10:08 PM
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But why keep a dead relationship going? If you cheat there you are killing a relationship on the brink of death... So might as well end it. I think a more mature thing would be to negotiate an open relationship or leave. I just think cheating is very dishonest and disloyal. If I have a dead bedroom but I still care about someone I would communicate my need for sex. If they don't care about my wants or needs that tells me to end it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 07:43 PM
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There are resources for women and families and if the husband is abusive u don't need to worry if you have a place to stay you will get custody. As for emotional comfort or sex and feeling good about yourself it is a poor excuse. Plenty of ppl can go without it for a long time... There is no excuse for cheating. I don't care about if other ppl cheat but I would have a hard time ever committing to someone that cheated I think it is a character flaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 07:37 PM
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It is never justified. If you are justifying it you are ok with cheating. Even if someone is in an abusive or bad relationship you can go without emotional comfort or sex. Ppl do it all the time for long periods. 2 wrongs don't make a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 07:30 PM
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I agree if I was to choose I would rather my partner have a one night mistske than a full blown affair. One could be a drunken mistake and the other is months of planning, lying and disrespect to my face...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 10:54 AM
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Yeah there is so much misandry and double standards. Men should just stop caring about ppl trying to shame them. It's all a form of control and the ppl shaming rarely hold themselves to the same standards. Anybody trying to shame you is trying to control and manipulate you...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 10:34 AM
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Yeah that's why it is a yellow flag because there could be valid reasons for the bad relationships. So don't wanna write someone off prematurely
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:41 AM
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I'm with you guys not everyone in the west is like that but it is common and sad and stupid. Those are the ppl that supported you the most. I'm doing extremely well and wouldn't have gotten there without family. We build each other up. Easier to reach goals when you have ppl working with you. That's how we were raised.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:40 AM
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I mean I really don't get along well with my gfs mom even though I tried (it's more neutral) but I still encourage my gf to have a good relationship with her. I'm cool with her dad tho. What I'm saying is just cuz I don't have a good relationship with someone doesn't mean my partner has to have a bad one with them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:31 AM
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I never said she doesn't need help but she also doesn't need her son to abandon her... Ppl that show no loyalty aren't worth much... How someone treats their parents (usually ppl that have poured time and $$) says a lot about that person
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:27 AM
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Who cares! Be a good son. She raised you alone and didn't abandon you so don't abandon her. If a girl finds it unattractive to be close to your family or mom they are toxic. They wouldn't care unless they don't stand up well to scrutiny. It's the same reason I understand a girls parents wanting to meet me. They wanna make sure she is with a decent guy. Moms that care about their sons do the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:15 AM
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To me it's a yellow flag if someone has a bad relationship with their family and red if they don't want me to be close to mine. I will talk to my siblings and mom about tons of stuff. They are some of the ppl I am closest to in the world and ppl I know have my best interest in mind. It would be stupid not to use that. Also I think the gf being too controlling or toxic is more common than a mom being that way. Most of the time I see a mom have an issue with a gf everyone does because she is contr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:03 AM
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Says the guy coming from another sub to track me down... On a month old post. Nah that's just creepy and I never said I was a badass lmao. Keep stalking me...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:49 PM
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I didn't make any assumptions about you expect your obvious lack of experience with attractive men... EDIT: They are if the rejection is douchey but most rejections aren't. If someone comes and tells me all women are arrogant and cold. I would say they obviously don't know many women. You say 95%+ of hot men are arrogant douches tells me you obviously don't know many hot men. It is obvious af... L o fucking L.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 04:41 PM
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No, lol I was speaking generally. If someone is acting full of themselves or colder/arrogant/other bad quality, it usually means they don't like you that much. They aren't concerned with making a good impression. That is the opposite of how ppl act around ppl they are really interested in... I am not saying there aren't exceptions but for the most part that is true. I just doubt you have much experience with hot men since you judge them so harshly and generalize. It is a very easy tell... Men ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 04:19 PM
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This is going along with what OP said though. You are proving his point. You don't see men as people. You generalize hot men and then see hot women as a people and acknowledge they are individuals and all different so best to not make assumptions... Also, I know extremely handsome guys that even if they are full of themselves, are great people. In general, though hot women are gonna be more friendly towards women and hot men towards men. Hot people see all the contradictions and bad behavior of …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 06:52 AM
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I mean applying the actions of a few to the many is how you create things like sexism or racism. It has been used time and time again to dehumanize. That is the real issue in my mind. I would be angrier about that than women not being on dating apps or whatever. I mean men do the same thing to women when they get older. They get jaded and hold it against all women. I guess you think that type of thinking is valid. Me personally if someone is like that I don't wanna be with them. Good these women…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 01:21 AM
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I'm like you I send partial nudes and no dick pics. I've had girls ask but I am hesitant. I also don't really think it is a hot part of a guy anyways so don't see the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 10:21 AM
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OP is saying if there are punishments for not signing up for the draft there should be benefits. If it isn't a big deal to sign up there shouldn't be punishments for not doing it...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 09:43 AM
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Yep if there are punishments and fines for not signing up or checking a box there should benefits for doing it. Though personally it should be abolished and optional...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 09:38 AM
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Adoption is a thing... Just adopt children. You will be helping the world and a child at the same time. Do a good thing and avoid the pain you describe.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 09:32 AM
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Even then you don't need to sign a bad contract to work together. Also I have started multiple businesses and skillset/assets definitely plays a role in equity. We don't just split the business evenly based on the number of co-founders... In business ppl change but the relationship is generally less volatile than romantic relationships and they are motivated to work together by $$. In divorce you are motivated to work against each other. I would rather focus on asset generation with a trusted bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 09:13 AM
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People change and situations change. Sure they were vetted but that doesn't mean you can't question your decision with new info. Anyone who has been successful knows not to blindly stick to decisions. I work with high lvl execs in fortune 100 companies. We are always reassessing old decisions when relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 05:29 AM
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I see nothing wrong with loyalty tests in either direction. If you are questioning better to find out sooner than later. Also I disagree it's low value. Low value is too afraid to find out or willing to be walked all over. High value also values their time and effort and don't wanna waste it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 11:07 PM
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Yep np
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:12 PM
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So, you think as a woman all that matters in life are your looks? Or are you strictly speaking from a relationship/dating perspective?
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/22 02:12 PM
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I took your comment to mean that only women could be feminine and men masculine. But it does seem like we agree. That is why I was so confused by your response at first. Yes, feminine traits are mostly associated with women and masculine with men. I am just saying that everyone has a mix of both, and anyone can exhibit masculine/feminine traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:10 PM
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This is just a common thing for people in general. I see plenty of people complain about their situation and do nothing to improve it. Sometimes ppl just want to vent and it really isn't about trying to fix the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 01:57 PM
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Well then, we have been agreeing the whole time. I'm not sure what you disagree with me on?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 01:52 PM
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You are saying what I explained earlier glad you finally realized it. Yes, all people can exhibit masculine or feminine traits/characteristics This is exactly what I said earlier. You say I am wrong and then explain why I am right lol...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 01:49 PM
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Ehh looks matter but women are more than just their looks and definitely not useless. There is more to life than a relationship. Some qualities might not impact your relationships prospects much, but they can help your life in so many other ways and help you feel fulfilled. Also, looks will help you get a guy, but it will take more than that to keep him. Same with guys that are good looking. Looks matter but are not everything.
/r/AllPillDebate14/09/22 01:46 PM
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I think you put it best and hope this comment gets more upvotes. You explained it well. Hopefully OP sees this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 01:29 PM
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Obviously toxic feminity exists and anyone who thinks otherwise lacks the ability to think critically. It should be obvious. However, I don't like your list of examples in the OP. I think you should refine your list more. Think about how normal gender roles or feminine qualities lead to toxic behavior and you will create a better list imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 01:28 PM
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Nope not limited to one gender, should read up on it: It is conceptually distinct from both the female biological sex and from womanhood, as all humans can exhibit feminine and masculine traits, regardless of sex and gender.[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femininity Ferrante, Joan (January 2010). Sociology: A Global Perspective (7th ed.). Belmont, CA: Thomson Wadsworth. pp. 269–272. ISBN 978-0-8400-3204-1.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 01:21 PM
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Feminine doesn't = submissive. You can be feminine and have power. You can still be a feminine person without being submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 01:14 PM
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Feminity and masculinity aren't gender specific everyone has bits of both. Men and women just naturally lean one way or the other but everyone has a unique mix of both.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 01:09 PM
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No I disagree, toxic feminity can hurt others but usually it isnt as forthright. It can be passive agression, manipulation, shaming tactics, taking advantage of feminine roles (I can hit you but you can't hit me), etc. A dad might be more likely to stereotypically yell and intimidate you if angry but your mom would guilt trip and manipulate you through emotions. They both get what they want through different means.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 01:06 PM
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Ehh I disagree that you taught your son something valuable. You crushed his dreams and that is a big thing. You taught him not to believe in himself and also even if he failed making a YouTube channel or being a pro-gamer teaches a ton of valuable skills. You can learn a lot from failing. I had the same dreams as your son but my mom encouraged me and I learned a lot and am very successful now in a different area but those skills have stuck with me. I wouldn't be anywhere as successful with a par…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 07:20 PM
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Yeah I am speaking in generalizations so there will be exceptions on both sides
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 11:23 PM
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It's complicated but I agree. I guess a better way to say it is ppl lose love for their partners for more frivolous reasons than they do family. Which to me makes it less real. That's also why I would choose my family or super close friends over a relationship. I just see my family/friends as more likely to be in my life long term. Also by friends I mean we extremely close friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 10:24 PM
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Yep if they were a really close friend. Nothing anyone did would change my mind as long as it wasn't to me or someone I care about. Doesn't mean I wouldn't be a bit more cautious around them. Like not bring any women or men depending on who they raped into vulnerable situations with them. My relationship/bond with them depends on how we treat each other and the bonds we formed not what they do outside that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 07:27 PM
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I actually agree there are too many expectations and controlling behaviors put on romantic relationships that make them toxic imo. Hence also why I think getting married is stupid more rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 07:25 PM
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No I disagree, I have friends and family that are so close we would choose each other over anything. I couldn't care less about society or their rules or anything. The only thing that really matters to me is family and friends. Doesn't mean I would like what they did but I have some ppl I would back and help almost no matter what. As long as they don't hurt anyone I care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 07:21 PM
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That doesn't seem like true love to me though... I believe a parent and child have true love. For me tho personally I stay on good terms with my exes and for the deeper relationships will always have love and wish the best for them. I choose to represent them by their good moments over their bad. If love is conditional it isn't love imo. You don't need to stay in a bad relationship but that doesn't mean love has to be conditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 07:18 PM
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It is literally dehumanizing and for me this is the bigger issue than men not able to get laid. Everyone assumes everyone who complains is an incel and it is shameful and manipulative language to ignore men's problems, issues and complaints. Sexism against men is increasing and more and more they are treated as sub human. You shouldn't have to say imagine if this was done to women to get ppl to care...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 08:02 PM
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Ok so you know how it feels and still wanna do it. If you can read social cues you can tell if someone is into you or not... It really isn't as risky as everyone is making it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:21 AM
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The analogy does work it is people you aren't attracted to hitting on you...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 03:19 AM
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I think OP is considering it supplemental income. You would still work and earn your own $$. I agree it isn't much though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:06 PM
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I don't really see why it matters as long as they can provide for themselves. I say that as someone that has a great job too and makes good $$$.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 12:47 AM
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There is an issue. Obviously he made the post because there is an issue. The issue wasn't going at her pace. The issue is the disrespect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 12:41 AM
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An assumption you made to preserve your happiness - I don't see any problem with it. However, can you agree that this may not be the case for all women? Yes, I am generalizing but obviously everyone is different. So sure, in some instances that isn't true but mostly it is true. Not even in a committed relationship where both the man and woman are satisfied and happy about it? - genuine question. Yes, happiness changes month by month and daily. I don't use sex to measure how well my relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 07:55 PM
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Her friend takes her cue from her. If she sensed his gf wasn't comfortable with the topic she would stop or not bring it up. Also she can cut her friend off. Bottom line is the disrespect to discuss it right in front of him says enough. Haha if anything she doesn't view her bf as an actual person with feelings to discuss it right in front of him and see nothing wrong with that..
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 07:29 PM
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Why would she be ashamed of that? Nothing wrong with it. Regardless still massively disrespectful for him to find out like that. If she cared about and respected him it wouldn't come out like that bottom line and wouldn't be discussed in front of him like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 07:15 PM
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Yeah her making him wait isn't bad but him finding out from her friend and the disrespect to talk about it like he isn't there or doesn't matter is too much... That alone tells me the gf doesn't respect or like her bf that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 07:09 PM
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You arent even trying to emphasize with the guy. Should be easy to realize. He wanted to go at her pace to make her feel comfortable cuz he really liked her. Now he feels disrespected. I agree he should leave at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 06:50 PM
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She can have sex with you but be more into someone else. If she made me wait that long it just tells me she isn't into me. Tbh I never have trouble getting girls to do what I want if they are into me. 3somes, swinging, etc whatever if she is into you she will do it. It just sounds like this girl isn't that into this guy. The fact she even let her friend discuss that in front of her bf is enough. She doesn't respect or like him much. Sex doesn't mean she likes or cares about you. My gfs best frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 06:39 PM
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No she wouldn't... Plenty of women endure shit and disrespect from men they are into. You are willing to do anything but empathize. Women don't empathize with men. That is the truth. If this was about a man treating a woman like trash and disrespecting her most women would have her back and trash the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 06:24 PM
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I already do... I think only being with one person forever is unrealistic and new partners can be exciting. We both occasionally see other ppl but it's not a regular thing. Ppl are gonna flirt in relationships especially if both are attractive and that can lead to cheating. Girls in relationships regularly flirt with me and guys do with my gf. It is a common thing. For my gf and I we tell each other everything and sometimes we allow it and sometimes we don't. Hasn't caused any major problems for…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 12:43 PM
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You are right class matters more than race and gender when it comes to privelege and I don't know why it is overlooked so often.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 12:22 PM
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Yeah the easiest or lowest effort way to blow up or go viral is with something controversial but ppl easily influenced see these views gaining popularity and attention and think it makes them credible. It spirals out of control with that being the only way to gain any visibility anymore which is sad. I also see it in sports and it's kinda obvious the ppl saying certain opinions don't actually believe them but are just doing it for $$ or views. But ppl not as big fans of the sport will take them …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:02 AM
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I agree with your sentiment but things between men and women have gotten to the extreme and yes it is that way. I mean in my generation it is common to refer to men as trash and say it. Also goes the other way towards women. It has gotten so hostile go to any social media post about men or women in general and things quickly become a gender war. I just think social media and feminism and the news that feeds on outrage have caused this. Also I am for equal rights for men and women and support pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 12:41 AM
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I'ma piggyback off this comment but for OP it is because there are less men than women as you get to that age and of the men available plenty have let themselves go. So dating prospects aren't great. Men die younger than women. That is around the age you really start noticing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:19 PM
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Being nice just means you are trying to appease them instead of chase them or pursue them. It is the opposite of confidence. It is doubt and being scared the choice you make might offend. It also makes it harder to make connections with ppl because ppl can tell when you are being fake and not really showing your true self. Everyone has flaws you don't need to be perfect. The flaws make ppl interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:59 PM
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Your numbers on bi or gay men vs women are irrelevant because they ignore the culture surrounding them. Bisexuality and homosexuality is far more accepted and even encouraged in women. Also yes it is a matter of encouragement. Many men close off the idea before they ever get the chance to consider or experiment. Blackpill isn't doing a fine job of spreading itself at all. It's still very niche. Many men who should just give up on dating don't. Why wouldn't aborting males work? Elaborate...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:33 AM
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I think men are just too abundant and too thirsty. The market is unbalanced because there are too many men. The best way to correct things is to reduce the number of men on the dating market. If done enough it can drastically make things better for men without having to take away women's newfound freedom. A couple of ways to do that off the top of my head: Encourage homosexuality and bisexuality in men. I never got why some men were so homophobic. Guys being with guys just reduces your competiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:14 AM
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Small price to pay for freedom and reproductive rights...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:15 PM
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Societies already support children and adults who can't support themselves. So it wouldn't really change much... But yes I do suggest that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:30 PM
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And yet abortions are legal. And no you aren't responsible for every outcome of a voluntary act. I can leave the window to my house open voluntarily but if someone enters and steals I am not responsible or consenting to that. Consent matters what can't you grasp...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:16 PM
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It's not like you would ask me if I wanted to anyways rapist
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:47 PM
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Ok have sex run the risk of being raped... What a dumb comment... Again I get it ur a rapist and don't care about consent. We have ways to factor in consent like abortion for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:46 PM
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Actually you can legally they just don't consider consent right now. Doesn't mean you can't say you don't consent. And the legality doesn't matter and is stupid to bring up because the whole point of the Convo is changing the legal system...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:45 PM
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My claim is someone shouldn't be forced to be a parent without consent. Consent matters... Creepy and rapey to suggest otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:21 PM
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That's like saying because a girl was flirting she consented to everything that follows. Or because she consented to sex she consented to anal. Nope nope nope. You need a yes for each scenario. Assuming is rape. You are a rapist...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:13 PM
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Nope I can consent to sex but not being a father. There I just did it. Women also do this hence why abortion exists... You are assuming consent and that is dangerous and wrong and rapey and creepy... You cant assume consent without getting an explicit yes for that exact scenario. I could consent to just some parts of sex. Learn about consent because you are dangerous and rapey...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:11 PM
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Again you are acting like consent doesn't matter. Sure you can be responsible for your actions but just because a girl dresses slutty to a bar doesn't mean she is responsible for the rape that happened. You are not responsible for every action that follows. Consent matters and u disagree. Consent mattering is also a basic legal principle. The fact you are trying to overlook it is rapey and creepy...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 09:02 PM
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You are just using one issue to attempt to invalidate another. It doesn't matter how it has been done in the past or who has had it worse. That attitude is toxic and doesn't help fix things for anyone. You just sound like you need help...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 08:59 PM
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I also like how you had to change it from consent to liability because you know you are wrong, and it is rapey and creepy to assume consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:31 PM
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That isn't what you are presenting. It would be more like if you are driving without a seatbelt you are consenting to me crashing into you and killing you... Lmao no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:29 PM
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Ppl can be reckless. It isn't great but just because they are doesn't mean they lose the right to consent. Again, learn about consent you rapist... I literally copied and pasted your text back to you but just replaced he with she lmao... Just to show you how sexist you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:27 PM
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Consenting to sex with no measures of protection or mitigation of ones sex organs is consenting to the function of procreation from said sex organs. Otherwise the human would have engaged in nonproductive sex, or the human would have taken measures to prevent procreation. Wrong... learn about consent because your view on it is dangerous and creepy. You sound like a rapist. You don't get to assume consent. That isn't how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:24 PM
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Why so sexist...? Guess abortion should be illefal because if a women actually didn't want children, she'd take precautions to not have children. If she's not going to practice safe sex or get sterilized, she wants to be a parent. Unless a woman has been raped, she's responsible for the children that she creates. All I see from you is misandry, that consent doesn't matter to you which is creepy and that abortion should be illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:23 PM
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So, you are trying to justify one atrocity with another? How noble lol... Your misandry has gone that far... yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:16 PM
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It is telling that if a bad thing happens to men you used previous instances of it happening to women to invalidate it instead of trying to find common ground and support it...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:14 PM
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Women's rights activists used to go through the same thing... The men's movement is just far behind because they used to hold the power so it wasn't needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:12 PM
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No, they just want consent to matter, and it is creepy you don't think it does... Consenting to sex is not consenting to be a parent
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:10 PM
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It's the same as when a kid is put up for adoption... I mean not every story will go perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:09 PM
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Simple make the men sign an intent to conceive document before they start trying to have a child that can last a determined time period. Though personally I think consent should always matter and ppl can change their minds. What if I said it isn't rape if it is between a husband and wife? Or that if they had sex in the past it isn't rape? Ppl should be able to change their minds within a reasonable time frame imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:08 PM
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Nope just because some men don't pay child support doesn't prove that "men aren't forced to pay for kids they don't want". As long as one man is paying for a kid he doesn't want your declaration is untrue. All you are saying is consent doesn't matter to you which is creepy and rapey... Just because a man has sex doesn't mean he consents to being a father... If a woman gets to consent to being a parent so should a man or abortion should be illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:04 PM
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My answer is yes. I've had that kinda attention before and it's the trade off for being wanted. It's basically asking if you want to be hot or not... I choose hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:01 AM
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No lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:50 AM
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I recently visited my HS friend and saw his parents who knew me for yrs and we caught up but the thing that stuck out was his mom congratulated me on being tall lol. Not that I graduated and have a good career or anything else but that I am tall. I know she was trying to be nice but thought it was funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:54 AM
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Even still you don't know how much of an illusion it is... And most guys have no experience with make up
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:45 AM
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No they couldn't the social backlash isn't worth it and you would need to be a master to get away with it and I don't think even that would work. Ppl would be able to tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:41 AM
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You can disagree without invalidating. If someone got angry at a red light I wouldn't invalidate and say that they shouldn't act like that. (yes that is invalidation...) I would try to understand why. Maybe they had a stressful day or maybe they have mental health issues. Either way telling them how to feel is toxic and wrong. Understanding them and being empathetic to get them the help they need is much more healthy and productive for both parties. And if you can’t argue without chewing me out …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:39 AM
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But your argument is that he sees this sex tape and he realizes actually all that great and wonderful sex actually isn’t good enough for him. (Also, just as a side note, this whole scenario really does seem like a creative writing exercise or even an urban legend for its specificity and weirdness— like, how many women do you really think have a much hotter ex who she made secret sex tape with and then settled for a guy she’s not that passionate about and then kept the sex tape around and also le…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:13 PM
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Ok sure, but this is actually the key point then: why on earth are you wasting your life with someone who is not passionate for you in the first place? It is not an all or nothing. I never said she wasn't passionate about him in my example. You are assuming that. Everything is a matter of perspective. He could feel she was passionate in their sex life but finds she has another lvl of passion they have never achieved when seeing the sex tape. I never said their sex life was boring, or bad or anyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 04:14 PM
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Too many ppl are hung up on the sex acts. She could just be seen having more passionate sex with someone else in a video and it could have the same reaction and ruin the relationship because it changes how the man sees himself. If the sex acts are what mattered the most the break up and hurt feelings would have started then. They start when the guy discovers she was more wild or passionate with someone else because now he feels inferior. Basically, it makes the guy feel like shit and like he is …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 03:17 PM
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I agree with you, and I am not jealous person. My gf and I have an open relationship and have since the beginning almost. We are just healthy about it. Put the relationship first and put limits on it. So, I understand your viewpoint. Yes, he is insecure and that is ok. The problem is all emotion based. He feels insecure and like she values him less than he thought. Emotions play a big role in sex. So, if his emotions change his perspective and view of their sex life can change. You can say he sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 07:37 AM
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I understand your point and agree with it, but your advice literally doesn't apply to this problem. The problem isn't that she said NO.... He stayed with her because it isn't that big of a deal. Ok let's change the scenario since you are stuck on that. BF is satisfied with sex life with GF and she hasn't said no to him. He finds a sex tape though of her having vanilla sex with someone else and she is way more passionate and into it than she is with him and he didn't know she can get that passion…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 07:13 AM
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He knew she wouldn't do X with him the minute she said NO. That wasn't the problem. Seeing a sextape of her doing it with another guy doesn't change that she said NO. If the big issue was she won't do X the problem would have started when she said NO instead of when he saw a sex tape of her doing it with another guy. You say you are logical that should be easy to conclude the problem isn't that she won't do it with him... The bf would have the same reaction if he saw his gf have more passionate …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 07:06 AM
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Nope because like I said you can't understand the example above and can't empathize you never stood a chance at understanding the argument. This is very straight forward logic and you’re bringing way too much complexity and emotion into it. Haha because humans are emotional and if you ignore the emotions and complexity you are just a stupid person trying to sound smart. You completely misunderstand and misrepresent the problem. The problem never was they didn't do X with their bf/husband dummy. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:58 AM
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It doesn't matter if I use children in my example above. They are not supposed to represent the men or anything like that dummy. I literally just told you it wasn't an analogy. Holy fuck are you stupid... Why are they complaining about their sex life but satisfied with it before the sex tape? They leave or at least consider leaving after finding it. All you are doing is stating the obvious that everyone already knows and are too stupid to see it. Everyone already knows leave if you are dissatisf…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:49 AM
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It isn't supposed to directly relate. The point is if you can understand the simple concept that someone can be satisfied even if they didn't get what they want. This wasn't an analogy lol. It was to test if you can understand a simple concept. Which it seems you are having trouble understanding... Until you can understand that you will never begin to understand the problem. A kid could make spaghetti too that isn't the point. Point is he is satisfied so doesn't feel the need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:41 AM
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It makes no sense if you can't empathize and think like a child. If your favorite food is Spaghetti and that is what you want for your birthday but your Mom doesn't have enough time to make it so instead gets your second favorite food Ice Cream. You could still feel satisfied even though you didn't get what you want. You felt like she put in effort for your birthday and you still really like Ice Cream. Can you understand this scenario with the mom and child?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:33 AM
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That is the whole basis of the argument. If they are satisfied, then it doesn’t matter what she did before. Wrong... so I was correct you don't even understand the argument. Maybe try some empathy and you could actually understand the problem lol...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:29 AM
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Sex is highly emotion based. I have had wild sex and more vanilla sex. The things that made them the best are less the acts and more the emotions at the time. You can have a great sex life but then find this new information and totally change your feelings and perspective. The fact that she acted one way with someone and another way with you will affect feelings and thus satisfaction/perspective of sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:26 AM
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Sigh... so much wrong with this comment. This argument only comes from men who are being settled for and not getting what they want in the bedroom, only to find out that their gf had enthusiastic sex with someone else. Nope all you are saying is you are too stupid to empathize with other men and their plight. I am furthering this argument and have no trouble getting my gf to do tons of wild things. I am just smart enough to understand what other men are saying unlike you. If someone is not getti…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:19 AM
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You can be sexually fulfilled but then not with new information and a change or perspective. Feelings are a big part of sex. He could be sexually fulfilled by this women before the video or new information. New information comes out he feels treated worse and changes his perspective on their sex life. It's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:08 AM
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I mean you are just invalidating his feelings and demeaning them by saying it's his penis and then say he should care about hers lol... No until you can understand his feelings you don't even understand the problem... Classic tactic tho men's feelings don't matter...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:05 AM
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No he shouldn't because his view changes from she is trying her best to she doesn't care enough to try her best with me... You completely miss all the nuance. Like I said earlier extremely simplisitc view. If it was as simple as you are stating there wouldn't be all this debate and everyone would agree. You are missing a lot. Think on it some more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:02 AM
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Most men don't place all the value on sex. Maybe the women fullfills him in many other ways but not completely sexually but he overlooks it because she is giving him her best in his mind. Sure your statement makes sense if all you care about is sex in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 05:57 AM
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It's different for everyone. I agree with your premise actually mostly. But everyone has a right to their reaction. Depending on those 20 mins everyone has different limits.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 05:55 AM
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Ppl can change their minds. Maybe it wasn't important in the past and now it is... Stop trying to invalidate men's feelings. If he is making it an issue it is obviously important to him. Have some common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 05:51 AM
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Top comment said it is mysogyny for men to have options and view women as replaceable...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:59 PM
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I agree with your stance actually, but many don't. I think you actually laid it out perfectly at least for my views.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 06:18 PM
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Sounds like the easier way is to just not get married. Most common advice I've gotten from older men that are well off is that marriage is a big mistake and to not let myself get pressured into it...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 05:35 PM
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It's the same for men in social situations maybe not relationships as much but I have always dumbed down myself around ppl. I've been doing it since school. Being smarter than everyone isn't a great way to get ppl to like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 01:20 AM
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oh I agree with what ur saying. I guess you misunderstood me. I'm just saying that not having a few hobbies in common isn't a big deal. I don't know of any couples that have every hobby in common. So a guy liking video games or sports isn't a big deal. They will have other stuff they can relate with and bond over.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 08:20 AM
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I'm just saying in most relationships hobbies don't match up and both partners have hobbies the other isn't interested in. The concern is overblown imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 07:54 AM
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If she is hot and not obsessed with games no guy will care. Most guys already don't like most of the hobbies girls engage in... Most girls don't like hobbies guys engage in. Ppl in here acting like it is a big deal just tells me they have never had a GF/bf.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 07:46 AM
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If you lost it on your own I respect that. I also lost interest for a long time. There were just other priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 07:27 AM
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That's my GF but she gets off when she is with me. Most younger guys play videogames and most younger girls are on social media a lot. If that's a deal breaker you prolly won't be dating lol... At least in my generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 07:16 AM
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Who cares if women like gaming or not... If you have to tailor your hobbies to women to get women you are a loser... I've been gaming off and on my whole life and never had trouble attracting women. Most of the guys I have met play video games lol. Most of them have gfs. Really all you need to do is to be able to socialize and flirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 07:14 AM
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You would never know even if they did as a misandrist... Ask a mysogynist if women have problems and their answer would be the same as yours... It is too easy to make you look stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 05:46 PM
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This is what I am talking about tho. We have feminist telling us our probs don't matter and aren't real, Telling us what is harmful towards us or not and telling us they know what the male experience is like better than we do lmao All to defend the ability to say "men are trash" or "kill all men". And they think misandry isn't real lmao... Or that feminism isn't a problem... Feminists are not allies to men and never have been.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:27 PM
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They don't have to be comparable. Hate speech is always considered harmful... The hate speech isn't directed at you or your gender. So it doesn't matter if you think it is isn't harmful. Misandry does exist and you are proof of it in this thread lol...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:18 PM
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Spreading hate against men lol... Just like that would be considered mysogynistic these days. So excusing and spreading hate isn't a problem or harmful lmao And we aren't talking about mysogyny and I never denied it existed. You are trying to use mysogyny to invalidate and deny misandry like a true feminist lol Guess what dummy 2 problems can exist. Misandry and mysogyny can both exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:10 PM
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No one is talking about decades ago we are talking now. Ahh invaliding misandry because another Grp had it worse a lifetime ago lmao... This post just shows the current state of feminism. Thnx for being stupid and proving my point. Also misandry is more than opression. What she is doing is hate speech which is spread by feminism constantly and excused as u just did...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 03:04 PM
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This is less about female nature and more about how society treats men. OP said a lot. Some I agree with and some I don't but he is right about how society treats men. Also I don't blame all of it on women. There are plenty of men as well that also minimize or ignore men's problems. I blame feminism if anything. It spreads hate and misinformation against men. As far as I am concerned it is a hate movement. Arguing is a strength for their movements because so many ppl are afraid to argue back. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 02:25 PM
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The majority of society is also full of misandry so I guess it is alright for men to hate women according to you. Feminism is the major source of misandry and always has been. It's my main issue with it. Assigning the actions of a few powerful men and women these days (patriarchy) but historically powerful men to all men was the first big sign. It has trained women to perpetuate and hate all men as a group like you described.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 01:26 PM
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If u don't care why are you even here lmao? Also these are symptoms of a much larger problem which is mainstream misandry. Fact that most ppl even yourself excuse this shit shows it is accepted. It poisons the well on gendered issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 01:23 PM
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Some ppl are mentally weak there is no shame in it. Plenty of ppl have mental illnesses and depression or anxiety. Trying to shame ppl into behaving a certain way is just manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 01:20 PM
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I disagree and I also disagree with OPs premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:36 AM
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And this is the real problem men and women complain about the same thing in different ways all the time but can almost never see the other person's POV. In this small thread we see a man and woman complain about being used as pawns but they talk past each other and only acknowledge their issues ignoring the very similar issues the other has as well. Everything is used to divide instead of find common ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:31 AM
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It's about as realistic as the women that complain porn is ruining men. It's the same general idea that it sets unrealistic expectations. I of course disagree with both but it is interesting that certain men and women are complaining about the same thing in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 12:26 AM
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You don't have to be... You can listen to the experiences of others who have. No one is saying you need to be trans lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 09:22 AM
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There is value in hearing their experiences because it can help the genders relate and understand each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:56 PM
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You could try finding a guy with lower testosterone. Also men lose testosterone as they age. Men have a range of test some men will have much higher and some much lower. Sounds like you would prefer lower testosterone men. Just like women's libido varies so do men and their libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:33 PM
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Go on Twitter lol...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:39 PM
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Right and wrong. If these same men grew up in a different generation they would be different because their environment would be different. Men are timid and weak because that is how they were raised. That blame goes towards their parents but partly society since we can see with recent generations it is more prevalent. Every generation is going to have different values. This recent one raised weak and timid men in general. Why that is... would be an interesting discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 06:36 AM
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Yeah you are lying or your experience is not representative at all. I am also bi and it is dead easy to get laid with dudes. Takes no effort. I have never met a bi or gay guy that fools around with dudes and actually has trouble meeting guys. Maybe you are in a small city. There are bi/gay guys on here you won't fool ppl... Here are some stats to back up my real life experiences too: https://relationshipsinamerica.com/relationships-and-sex/how-many-people-have-americans-had-sex-with If anyone is…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 06:14 AM
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Who should men believe all of their actual life experiences and those of all the countless men they grew up with and know? Also all the stats out there... or a random internet poster who knows some guys? My gf and I swing. So we meet a lot of ppl that have a lot of sex and I still haven't met a guy that has slept with 100s of girls lmao. Stop lying... If a dude is actually telling you he slept with 100s of girls and you believe him: Either he has no life and that is literally all he does or he i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 06:14 AM
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What do u mean by cheating isnt a thing for women and it's a male sex fantasy?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 05:56 PM
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What does your comment have to do with mine lol...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 11:03 PM
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He probably doesn't have enough of a social circle... Takes a lot of time to get all that. It doesn't matter if you have all that if no one can see it or knows about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 04:09 PM
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I am bi too and that is the only thing I have ever seen guys complain about for other guys is someone being fat. Same here I don't fuck fat ppl period men or women. Never seen a guy complain about a dude being short and I wouldn't care if a dude I hooked up with is short but short guys complain about women treating them like shit all the time. If I had to bet women are more shallow for hook-ups and men more shallow for relationships. Pick any decent looking guy normal non-fat guy and he will hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 12:03 AM
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Depends if you are hot other guys would do all the approaching. I'm bi and have hooked up with plenty of dudes and have never had to approach another dude at all... You just need to exist and everyone else does all the work for you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:27 PM
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Gay men are just like normal men in the sense that some have high standards and some don't but those are more for relationships than hookups. Hook-ups are extremely easy for gay or bi guys. I mean I am bi and I have a brother that is gay. I have run in gay circles. So I know a lot about it. Dunno most ppl I know never had trouble hooking up with gay guys and my brother has had plenty of relationships no problem. I only hookup with guys I do relationships with girls. Men do have low standards for…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:22 PM
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My brother is gay and in a LTR right now... What experience do you have with the gay dating world lol... Plenty of gay ppl are in LTRs
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:21 PM
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OK but what is your view on being in a committed relationship without marriage? Why subject yourself to risk? That's seems like the best option. Everyone gets the benefits of marriage but not the drawbacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 08:03 AM
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The statistics are around the likelihood of failure but the value of marriage itself is subjective. Those statistics have nothing to do with it. Would you buy a car with that high or a failure rate? Even using your stats that is too high... Marriage is a bad deal. You can be in a committed relationship without getting marriage. You can even have a ceremony. No point in subjecting yourself to that risk of signing a marriage certificate though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 07:57 AM
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Promoscuity in woman isn't really a turn off imo. I think that is just you. Most men would bang a slut if she is hot. They don't care about promiscuity. In fact promiscuity is hot in a girl ur not trying to marry imo. As far as why men don't like high n-count it's because they are afraid of being hurt. Ppl can say ego, insecurity, etc. It is all the same thing. It is a self-protection mechanism. This is why why n-count only matters for relationships. As far as ur inconsistency theory I don't lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 07:36 AM
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See but these are basic things. If ur having to beg ur partner to eat u out or give u a bj... I think u should find a partner that cares more imo. It sounds sad and pathetic. Even if u don't like giving bjs or eating someone out it is an easy enough act to fulfill for a partner u care about. Those are bad examples imo, Anal is better but going to your post above, even if she doesn't like anal it's not right for her to deny him the ability to ever experience it just because she already experiment…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 07:22 AM
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Ehh I disagree... I've done plenty of shit with guys and girls and some of it I wouldn't want to do again but if my partner asked me to experiment with them once I could do it for them if I really cared for them. Of it was a ONS I wouldn't care. You guys are acting like performing some sex act is so draining or something. As long as I thought it would help the relationship I would give it a shot. Just because u experienced something it isn't fair to deny ur partner the chance to ever try it imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 06:29 AM
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I mean u are both saying the same thing. U are both saying they shouldn't be together because they are not compatible. He doesn't feel loved and she feels pressured to do something she doesn't want to do... Both feelings are valid. My gf and I pretty much know everything about each other's sexual past. It happened pretty early on while talking about our pasts in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 06:25 AM
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You are clearly making assumptions and I have debunked them and said my intentions are the opposite. It seems you lack the mental ability to understand nuance... Just because I don't consider graduating highschool an achievement doesn't mean I will blow off high school. I will still try to do very well in high school. I laid out a simple example for you to demonstrate that just because I don't consider raising kids a great achievement doesn't mean I will blow it off. I will still try to do a ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 01:18 AM
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Just sounds like we have different levels of expectations when calling something an achievement. No need to be sensitive and make stupid assumptions. Just because someone doesn't agree they don't care about their kids lol... Doing something the majority of people do isn't much of an achievement in my eyes. I would absolutely care for my kids though. It just sounds like you are the type of person to call graduating high school a great achievement. I wouldn't, no one is right or wrong. It is subje…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 11:36 PM
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I mean that can be your opinion but don't force it on everyone else or try to shame others that disagree. So many ppl raise kids that it wouldnt feel like an achievement at all to me. It would be a great experience sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 10:37 PM
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Not really my gf has a lower n count than I do and she was concerned about mine being higher. She brought it up and I had to smooth it over. I think it is natural for couples to want similar n-counts it represents similar views. Though obviously relationships with different n-counts can work. Also it isn't just her I just think most ppl are comfortable with other ppl like them. Men and women from my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 12:32 PM
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I do think class makes a huge difference. Not just for women but men and even values. As someone that has been wealthy and poor at different stages of life I see a huge difference in their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 05:31 PM
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Also, the fact that the most popular forms of misandry originated from feminism and misandry has come from feminism multiple times is damning... If a similar movement did that to women they would rightfully be labeled as misogynistic... Make all the excuses you want lol... Feminism had plenty of opportunities to address the misandry present within itself. Like you though they make excuses and allow it to persist. You are not gonna convince ppl misandry is not a part of feminism...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 06:07 AM
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Hard to do that when I'm doing exactly that and you literally won't comprehend the words I'm writing. You are preaching to the wrong people... No offense but you are a nobody. I am not going to take your word on what feminism means. I will look at the actions of feminism. You should be self-policing your fellow feminists if anything. I care what feminism does and not what a nobody says it represents. Interesting, so it's doctors' fault most anti-vaxxers don't understand the science. Wow that's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:55 AM
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I don't think they are one large group with a unified message or agenda but as a movement, there are some core tenets. Also, the group at large is judged by the actions of all in that group. It is not my job or anyone else's to manage or interpret their message. The onus is on feminists to self-manage their messaging. The point is the group created a culture where misandry is allowed to exist and be promoted. If misandry went against a core tenet of feminism I am sure it would not be allowed in …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:47 AM
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If MGTOW as a movement incited violence on a national or global scale (meaning it was not a one-off occurrence that was small in scale) then I would agree the MGTOW movement is violent. Feminism has promoted or allowed misandry on a global scale. It is not a one-off thing or a small subset of feminism. Also, feminism has done nothing to shut it down. If this 'small' subset goes against feminism why has feminism done nothing to stop it or disassociate from it? Acting like it is a small subset tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:30 AM
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You are the only one not getting it... Keep thinking everyone else is too stupid for you... Feminism could take a hardline stance against misandry. A zero-tolerance stance. They haven't and the movement has actively promoted misandry, popularized misandry, etc. So yes by those criteria I would classify feminism as misandrist. Everyone else's interpretation doesn't matter only yours and fellow feminists lol...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:21 AM
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Feminism is a collective of the views of the people in the movement. So if a lot of feminists are promoting misandry that is reflective of feminism... Same of say the TRP being associated with misogyny... Bottom-line is the movement has ties to misandry. There is no denying it. The movement has popularized misandry... No denying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:16 AM
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I already said I am in the 82% that think men and women should be social, political, and economic equals. That's true. I disagree with you not because of this, but because you mistakenly think feminism = misandry. No, I and many other reputable sources along with the majority of citizens see the misandry present in feminism. If you think that doesn't represent feminism then it is on the feminists to manage their message. It isn't a problem with the people it is a problem with feminism in general…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:13 AM
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Also, I know as a male-feminist who has no self-respect my male opinion doesn't matter to you... Here is an article from a reputable source and a woman calling out feminism for its misandry against men and how it needs to change: https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/06/30/feminists-treat-men-badly-its-bad-for-feminism/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:57 AM
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I am a different person than the one you have been responding too... And yet, here I am respecting myself. How'd you like to proceed with your argument? Men who promote misandry have no self-respect and the same could be said for women that promote misogyny. "I support recognizing things fall due to acceleration but not the theory of gravity." Ok, then. Not really... to anyone that has been paying attention egalitarianism and feminism are different things. Most women don't even support feminism …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:42 AM
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Feminism in general is terrible because it promotes misandry... If you are a male feminist you have no self-respect... I support equal rights between men and women but don't support feminism and that is how most ppl feel these days
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 04:21 AM
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I mean both of your examples of gendered traits just sound like results of our culture. I'm sure as time goes on we will see more women in positions of power with these traits. It was just previously our culture hasn't embraced women in power so it wasn't likely to see women with those traits. Same could be said with men and depression. Plenty of men get depressed they just don't show it as much as women because of our culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 04:53 AM
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Or they have plenty of opportunities so they don't need to be desperate for every single one... Sex stopped being about procreation a long time ago...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 11:17 PM
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I agree that men probably don't see sex the same way in general as women. As for some of the sexual examples you mentioned, it doesn't bother me what ppl do as long as they are not hurting others. If someone wants to buy a dildo, blow-up doll or whatever it is fine. If someone wants to marry a sock go for it lol. So to address your comments about some of the terrible sexual acts men have committed in the past, it doesn't give me personally any pause because I am not around people like that. I ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 06:21 PM
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Yet you keep replying but sure it's time that you are trying to protect and not your ego from looking stupid... I can tell from the number of emojis in your earlier response you are very intelligent and value your time lol... Ya nice try...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 10:25 AM
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So you are incapable of explaining yourself got it... Not surprised too many ppl run from challenges to their beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 10:18 AM
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Yeah that doesn't answer the question...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 09:55 AM
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OK then maybe for the guys u date or sleep with... It's not like that for most guys. What does anal have to do with anything? I would say if that is your experience with men you need to raise your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 09:44 AM
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Maybe for u...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 09:41 AM
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Ehh the truth is depends how the man sees you. If you are relationship material he would rather be in a relationship with you than a casual sex thing. If not he would rather just have casual sex. Also, relationship material is different for every guy and it can change over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 03:03 AM
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Same bro. Most of the women I've been with wanted sex more than me, like all the time and sometimes I wasn't feeling it. I used to think something was wrong with me but nah I'm just someone that doesn't wanna waste a whole day having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 03:00 AM
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Those men sound deranged tbh. I don't know any men like that in "real life" (that I have met in person). Most men are not some animal desperate to stick it in anything. That is probably the bottom tier of men. Plenty of women get turned down or rejected, which demonstrates my point. If a man is attractive enough he will have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 02:50 AM
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Nah men aren't always on. The only ones that are always on are very young or don't get sex often. Plenty of guys would pass up sex to do other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 02:44 AM
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I don’t care what I gotta be I don’t and never will find fat attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 03:37 PM
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But he jumped though more hoops to try and get a girl and dealt with more bullshit. So his actions say he likes women more and so do his words...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 08:36 PM
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I don't think weakness has any value on what is worse. I think both are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 02:30 AM
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I said in a prev comment on here my moms bf would hit and fight me while I was in HS. So yes I do actually. And boys that haven't gone through puberty are just as weak as girls. Hence why HS girls can compete with boys in wrestling for a while. So yeah I have plenty of experience. I got more than punched too. Maybe you bruise easy but it is not common to get bruised by every punch. I must have missed your experience with violence I will read it when I get he chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 02:05 AM
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The guy could pull his punches. And humans are weak creatures compared to plenty of other animals. Most punches are weak. 162% of a weak punch is still weak. Like I said most punches do not even leave a bruise. You just sound like you have no experience with violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 01:56 AM
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A man could cause. That doesn't mean he will cause more dmg. Same could be said of poor ppl. Statisticallly they cause more violence. We don't hold ppl guilty of what they might do but of what they actually do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 01:53 AM
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I mean you sound like you are a woman or haven't been in many fights. What kind of dmg do you think happens when a guy punches someone lol? It isnt some catastrophic event. Sure if the guy is completely jacked it can be bad. But your average guy or girl is pretty weak and would probably not even leave a bruise depends where the hit lands. You cannot say the dmg will not be the same with any certainty.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 01:51 AM
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What that is completely different that what you have been saying though?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 01:45 AM
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I actually should because I think it should not be gendered... This is a debate forum not an agreement one...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 01:34 AM
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No in my example it was the side-swipe so the damage was the same. If the dmg was the same it wouldn't matter if it was a Prius or a Hummer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 01:33 AM
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Except we don't know the training regimen of the women. You can walk into any gym and see women that weight-train that can outlift men who are newish. Regarding male and female strength and potential damage is delusional and is straight path to many women being seriously hurt. How so? Because you think women will hit men and men will hit them back? I mean how about we just stop women from thinking they can hit men? I'm sorry but I hold little sympathy for people that think they can hit other ppl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 01:32 AM
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There is no biological difference between a poor person and a wealthy person so there’s not going to be a very significant difference in how much damage the two could cause. There is an experience difference though. That is even more important than a biological one. A woman trained in fighting can destroy an average man. I would not want to fight Ronda Rousey. Similarly, poor people have more experience with violence. It’s gendered already. To some people. I don't make it gendered. Like I said e…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 01:23 AM
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I have nothing against poor people lol. I grew up poor. Anyways, my point is that like men poor people have a higher potential for violence and the stats also bear this out. Should violence from poor people like men in your opinion be considered worse than violence from women or wealthy people? The question is specifically about gendered differences so I didn’t bother bringing it up because it’s so obvious it’s a given. C’mon dude. No, my point is you are making something gendered that doesn't n…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 01:11 AM
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Where did I defend violence against men? Point it out. I said women will be punished less severely and rightfully so because they’re doing less damage. What if I said violence from wealthy people should be punished less than violence from poor people. I mean to me that sounds like you are more accepting of violence towards poor people. Usually, poor people have more experience with violence and more potential to do more dmg because of that. ​ Do you think all violence is just inherently bad and …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:53 AM
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I mean not really. Men almost always hold back against women. The women could easily get the first hit which can turn the fight. Also, we are not apes. Weapons exist. Sure men have an advantage but it isn't a sure thing. Anyways who cares who has more of a chance to win a fight. You do not excuse a Prius for running into a Hummer because the Prius is smaller. It is still wrong. It is still wrong for a weaker person to attack a stronger person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:48 AM
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Ok, then we agree. I guess I was misinterpreting your stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:41 AM
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Not really it matters about a bunch of things which will do more dmg. (Speed, direction, where they hit, weight, etc.) Anyways the point is they both have minor dmg it is a side-swipe... Most accidents don't result in cars being totaled.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:38 AM
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I mean why defend violence from women towards men then? I don't get the point for your rant? How is it a double standard that should persist? Either you are against violence or you aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:35 AM
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I am saying if you are driving a Prius/SUV and sideswipe a car on the highway. Something that is believable and could happen. It doesn't matter that one is huge and powerful and the other struggles to reach 60. The consequences will be the same as they should be. Higher premiums...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:33 AM
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I mean most well-adjusted adults don't fight lol... That is why I need to go back to HS. You are the one trying to defend adults hitting each other and you say I have issues lol... And a fit man will cause more dmg than an average man and so on... The bottom line is by your definition you are more accepting of violence against men. Why not just discourage all violence and say it is all wrong and shouldn't happen? What is soooo terrible about that idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:30 AM
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No, the point is that when a man and a woman work out equally, the man will be stronger. I guarantee you those regulars are stronger than her. I never disputed that and most men have no idea how to work out so this really doesn't matter. Many tests on this have actually shown that average men who don't work out are still actually easily capable of overpowering fairly fit women. Those tests would be wrong lol. Unless they count fit women as a woman that has never lifted weights. Again in my scena…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:25 AM
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No, your equivalent would be like saying it should be more acceptable to run into another car with a Prius instead of a Hummer. I mean how about we just discourage ppl getting run over...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:21 AM
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And tell how that is not more accepting of violence against men? You accept violence against men more than women... That is literally what you are saying. I mean no way that isn't sexist lol. I am not putting words in your mouth at all... ​ I mean most 'bullies' in HS did just fine socially. Also, I don't know about your HS but at mine everyone fought for the most part not just 'bullies'. It was a social thing. Ppl would try to fight smaller and weaker ppl though. They are not stupid lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:18 AM
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Who cares ppl shouldn't be starting fights period...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:12 AM
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Lol have you ever been in HS guys do that all the time. You think guys are lining up to fight the strongest dude or a weak dude they know they can bully? All you are saying is that you are sexist and more accepting of violence against men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:10 AM
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These men just want to see women hurt and pretend like it's the woman's own fault. Except you are the only one defending violence? No one is saying men can hit women. They are saying all violence should be forbidden and treated equally as wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:07 AM
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I don't go to the gym with Olympians and Olympians are hardly your average male or female... My mom has been going to the gym for a year under my guidance and most men at the gym have no idea what they are doing and quit. You know the regulars at any gym and can tell who is new or won't be there long. Yes obviously most men hold back from full force No in most fights the men are not holding back at all... That is how you lose the fight. But the average man could beat the average woman to death i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:06 AM
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Yep we all can read... Point is you shouldn't care if you actually don't support violence. You should want to discourage them hitting just as much as we do men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 11:50 PM
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High n count is never a turn on to the opposite sex. It is just that usually men need to have some attractive qualities to get that. If a woman is really hot she will do just fine despite the n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 11:44 PM
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Yeah I hate double standards
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 11:40 PM
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So then don't bring it up and bitch about it if you actually think that. Hold women just as accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 11:38 PM
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Except weak men don't get the same slack when messing with stronger men. If you are stupid enough to pick a physical fight with someone stronger than you then you deserve the consequences. I mean if you really think no one should be starting dumb fights why bring it up... No women should get the same amount of flack and consequences. Being weaker doesn't give you the right to mess with ppl stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 11:37 PM
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No, there are very weak men. I mean I took my mom weight training for her health and she has only been training for a year but is stronger then plenty of guys at the gym. Kinda funny actually. Also, guys get in fights all the time. I have been in plenty of fights and my mom's bf used to hit me when I was in HS. I have never seen anyone's skull get caved in. Most it was is bruises like you said. You act like guys can kill you at any second from a single blow lol... Plenty of guys fight other guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 11:31 PM
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We both know where things stand... If you wanna prove me wrong and swap pics to see who really has more sex lets do it. If you wanna take pics of our cars to see who really has more money lets do it lol. I am a younger version of you that is better in every way and you won't disprove it because you know I am right... Nuff said
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:44 PM
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So I'ma take it as a no ur prolly just some fatass
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 04:10 PM
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No lol Im not posting pics of her. This is about u and I. I tried what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/20 03:08 PM
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It isn't completely baseless I know how much I make and that most ppl make less. So the odds are good but not a sure thing. When I finish school and work full time I will obviously make a lot more money and I already make 6 figures part-time. You are making it seem like I am the only one who supports or agrees with Thomson. Of course, there are many scholars that disagree I never said otherwise abortion is a debate after all. They don't disagree with her logic through but with the assumption tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 07:17 PM
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I mean my account is really old but think what you want lmao. I guess any guy that has played video games doesn't have sex. You must be old because every guy plays video games these days. Post a pic bet I am in better shape than you by far. I mean a pic will clear this up pretty fast
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 07:08 PM
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Your profile says you are 26... I do know that even if you are close to me I am working part-time and making 6 figures and don't even have my degree yet. Just wait until I am done with school lol. How much do you make per year? My assumptions were not baseless... You demonstrated zero knowledge of a famous abortion paper. There was basis for thinking you were not well versed in the area. ​ What you mean is, you think it makes sense. And plenty of scholars and pro-choice proponents. It is literal…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 07:05 PM
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I can only read what is in front of me. If I am misunderstanding your comments I apologize.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:55 PM
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I have probably had more sex than you ever will lol... but thanks for the info. Also if you read my comment history at all you would know I already have a GF.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:55 PM
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I think all human life has value and people have intrinsic rights. The right to live is one of them. Why can you kill a fetus but not a child? So you are adding qualifications to your stance now? ​ The funny thing is, your way of looking at the world ensures that irresponsible people reproduce more often and in greater numbers, well done Well, I am not looking at people like cattle. I think everyone should be given a chance and I believe in nurture over nature. A child born from irresponsible pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:53 PM
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This is what I was waiting for... Truly the height of misandrist intelligence right here folks. Thank you for this contribution!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:50 PM
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I mean I am educated but do I have credentials when it comes to abortion of course not lol... instead it’s something people who are community college educated and earn <40k a year say....since you like making baseless assumptions. Yikes for baseless assumptions you sure do make plenty. How about try 6 figures... Oh and that is working part-time while in school lol. I am much more well off than you and younger as well. I still think you don’t understand how this works....a piece of work being acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:47 PM
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LMAO ironic coming from the quality of your comments... I get it you are mad and this is how you deal with your emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:40 PM
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Haha you are the one that came outta nowhere on a thread where you don't understand the context. I am not name-calling I am just being factual... You engaged with me and that is fine but then want me to explain the whole context of the thread to you... Sorry, you gotta do that yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:39 PM
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Actually, no it wouldn't. It seems you have no idea what consent actually is... We know that is less effective than consent factually because we know plenty of men have sex without intending to be fathers and do just as you described. Hence it cannot be used as consent. It also flies in the face of famous pro-choice literature... I will ask again are you really just a sexist that is pro-woman or actually pro-choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:37 PM
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I answered why it matters. I am against taking human life. No, I actually think that. I do not support the military. In fact, I really dislike them. To me, pretty much anybody that kills is not a hero. Animals I think are treated terribly but I do not think the same for them. I suppose how unique it depends on your hierarchy. Ok, then what about parents killing their children. Their parents created them and under the hierarchy, they provide a burden not a benefit to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:31 PM
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Actually, it is about the fetus. If we considered it a kid/person from conception abortion would be illegal. Yeah, and if a guy wants to abandon by the deadline it is no longer his kid. Women wanted the right to choose motherhood. Men want the right to choose fatherhood. Again if you know anything about abortion it was never about bodily autonomy. Even today women do not have bodily autonomy. Late-stage abortion is illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:25 PM
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You can always add exceptions for things. It really isn't as hard as you think. Different punishments for miscarrying at different stages, w/e. Try and be a little creative at least
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:23 PM
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You responded to me it isn't on me to explain to you... Either you knew what you were getting into or you didn't. So you are arguing and you don't even know what it is about... Got it! You sound very stupid lol...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:22 PM
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I mean scientifically there is no debate a fetus is a stage in human development. I think killing humans is wrong so that is why I think it matters. I think if you need to dehumanize something to kill it historically you are probably doing something terrible. Children are a burden sure but does your want of an easier life trump someone's entire life? I mean your position is dark but I respect it for at least being unique. So in your mind, if a wealthy person wanted to kill a homeless person that…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:20 PM
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Read the thread again... I am not gonna explain what has been explained already.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:16 PM
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Not really we have legislated harder things
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:15 PM
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Call it "sexist," I call it being a decent person... if there is a child of yours walking around you need to provide for it at minimum. It is sexist and the same can be said for supporting abortion. The whole reason abortion is supported is because like you said at a certain time frame the fetus is not legally considered a person with rights. In that aspect, if it is ok to kill it is ok to abandon it. It is nothing yet and it doesn't matter what it might become. If that matters then that is a pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:15 PM
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And pretty soon with the conservative SC it looks like abortion might not either
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:12 PM
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Yes, I am familiar with Roe v Wade dumbass. It is less about pregnancy and more about motherhood. Which if you have read any abortion literature is what the argument is about. Even in the decision they directly asses that as one of the reasons for a women's right to privacy. To have control over her life: having unwanted children "may force upon the woman a distressful life and future"; it may bring imminent psychological harm; caring for the child may tax the mother's physical and mental health…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:11 PM
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Duhhh which is why it is called financial/legal abortion. Durr.... Do try and keep up
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:05 PM
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Maybe or maybe not. Abortion might get reversed with neither party having a say. Anyways, no one was every proposing men force women to get abortions only that they can financially and legally opt-out. Which any non-sexist pro-choice person would support. If you are pro-life I get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:04 PM
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What do we call the moron that lets a man get her pregnant and then wants the right to abortion afterward? A mother. It doesn't matter if the fetus is in the male's body... Do you really think that is the only reason that women have the right to abortion lol? Another clueless idiot... Why are women disallowed from late-stage abortions then? It is still in her body and those are illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 06:02 PM
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So they can destroy their children which they created. A Fetus is still a human life...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 05:55 PM
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You are right we should just let them kill children instead because they pose an inconvenience
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 05:52 PM
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It takes 2 irresponsible parties to want an abortion
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 05:47 PM
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So you think sperm donation should be illegal? Hmm, interesting. And he won't have a connection with a Father that doesn't want to be a father. The child does not have a right to both parents. Never has and never will. Visitation has never been required only encouraged. I mean should courts enforce 50/50 custody on parents to ensure a child has equal access to each parent? Child support is about relieving the burden on the state, not about a right for the child. Also, again you are opting-out be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 05:35 PM
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This topic is a good litmus test for finding who is sexist against men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 05:30 PM
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A sperm cell is a human cell but it is not a human. Same thing with an egg cell from a woman. Those are different things https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_embryonic_development I get women didn't consent to raise a child but you think they should be able to kill a human because of the inconvenience it causes?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 04:49 PM
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No a fetus is a human. It is a stage all humans go through and it is alive. Thus scientifically it is a human life. There is no debating that. I never said you would catch all cases but it definitely won't be as easy as in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 04:41 PM
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You are ending a human life. You can try and dress it up however you want but that is the bottom line. Also, you can see evidence of abortions at check-ups, ppl could report it, etc. Yeah, some ppl will get away with it but you can make it pretty hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 04:36 PM
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Do you understand the abortion debate? Why it is legal, etc.? Do you understand how consent works? I mean ur version sounds kinda creepy and rapey no offense. You are trying to imply consent by very vague actions. It sounds like a recipe for getting it wrong. Consent needs to be clear. Having sex as a man even unprotected is not a clear signal for consenting to be a parent. Most men have sex for pleasure not reproducing. Again to have consent it needs to be a clear signal. Are you pro-choice or …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 04:26 PM
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We are more advanced as a nation now. It would be a lot easier to crack down on people trying to get illegal abortions. We could issue large fines for people found to commit abortions or jail/prison time since it is taking a human life. Morally abortions shouldn't exist but ppl are selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 04:20 PM
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Also with us having a more heavily conservative Supreme Court I could see abortion being overturned in the future. Things are different now. If we implement parental leave as a right at work. Pregnancy and motherhood could be argued to not be such a burden that abortion is necessary. Things are already moving in that direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 04:10 PM
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So then If you can't explain or understand my argument why did you say I compared abortion to slavery? lol... We all have the equal right to bodily autonomy, thats where right to abortion comes from Wrong read the Supreme Court ruling or numerous academic papers. That is definitely not the main reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 04:03 PM
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Wrong I literally studied abortion. If it was about the right to liberty which is different. That is one aspect of liberty but if it was the only one woman could be compensated similar to surrogates. Women arguing for abortion didn't do it because of the burden of pregnancy but the burden of motherhood. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. If we want to make abortion illegal though that is fine. Similar to abandonment it is a selfish choice. I would be fine with an opt-out for me…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 04:01 PM
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If you don't want to be a father, be diligent about protection or don't have sex. That's it. It's no more or less than what men tell women to do in this sub. I mean yes if you think abortion should be illegal. That is pretty much one of the arguments. If you think abortion should be legal then it doesn't matter. There is no diligence testing for abortion or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 03:58 PM
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Nope, I am showing how laws are not fair... Why are you so stupid? That should be obvious. Plz stop embarrassing yourself. If you think I compared slavery to abortions plz explain how if you can lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 03:56 PM
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I didn't compare safe sex to rape I compared your description of sex to rape. Get it right stupid... You don't even understand the abortion argument... Literally you are too stupid to understand it. I suggest reading A defense of abortion by Judith Thomson a famous pro-choice paper that argues why consent is important and that it is one of the main reasons abortion should be legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 03:55 PM
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Yes, captain obvious, abortions are legal what is your point? The law is fair lmao so it was fair when slavery was legal or when women couldn't vote. So I am debating an idiot... Got it!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 03:52 PM
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Sure but if she is that hot it won't matter she will have so many high-value replacements. I didn't mean to imply everyone would want that woman or the high n-count man. Just that they would have plenty of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 03:48 PM
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So abortion should be illegal got it... You are anti-abortion that is all you needed to say
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 03:46 PM
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You are so daft it is annoying... You have those rights because it is about consent. That is why the conversation is happening around abortion and an opt-out for men. The same arguments for pro-choice can be applied to men as well. If you want to throw those arguments out fine then move to pro-life. I always thought abortion is barbaric anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 03:43 PM
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Don't let someone cum in your vagina if you are not ready to be a mother... Get a reversible vasectomy, wear a condom, or only fuck raw in relationships. You have plenty of options to avoid being a father before you’re ready. The same could be said of women... All you are saying is that you are sexist lol... So many words to say so little
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 03:40 PM
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No, because you are pretty much victim-blaming. It is like saying why do women wear skimpy clothes around horny men? Don't they know they can wear thick sweaters or go somewhere else? There is only 1 way to get consent. That is if men explicitly say they want to be a father. You can't try and analyze their actions or say the could have done something else to mitigate the outcome. Those are not valid admissions of consent. Also, we pretty much know most guys/girls engage in sex for the pleasure n…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 03:38 PM
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So you are pro-life I take it? You could use all those same arguments about why abortion should be illegal...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 03:33 PM
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Yes, social constructs matter because the definition of a biological father and actual fathers are different. Look at sperm donors for example... Should sperm donation be illegal? I am very pro-choice but how would you extend this to a man I wouldn't mind pro-life but I want consistency. I also don't mind pro-choice even though I think it is selfish. Anyways, a man should have a shorter opt-out window than women. A woman would need to serve the man legally to notify him she is pregnant and then …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 03:31 PM
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No, it really isn't... It is like saying wearing skimpy clothes is consent to be groped by horny men. Leaving your window open is consent for someone to steal your shit... Nope! The guy could be having sex because it feels good and doesn't want to be a father. The girl could be wearing skimpy clothes because they make her feel good and doesn't want to be groped. I take it you are against abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 02:58 PM
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Ok, so what you can stop it for everyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 02:52 PM
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So only allow abortion in life-threatening situations problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 02:36 PM
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No, otherwise every sperm donor is a father... Sure maybe biologically speaking but as a social construct of a what a father is today, DNA alone does not make you the father. Abandoning a fetus is the same as killing it. I don't understand how this idea is sexist or relates to this thread. I agree, which is why I said if you are pro-life fine but if you are pro-choice then you need to extend that to men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 02:35 PM
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I am not saying it isn't a risk or an outcome. Yes, I agree with most of what you said but consent is not a moot point when we have the option of abortion. Without abortion, consent is more of a moot point because you can do nothing to change the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 02:33 PM
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No, I have read a bunch more papers but I am using her argument of consent here which is why I am citing it. I like arguments from plenty of other papers like Marquis for example but I haven't had a reason to mention them. Are you implying that someone’s opinion on a matter should come from ONE piece of academic work.... Derp... No of course not. I only mention her paper because it was relevant to the argument I was making about consent and since you seemed to think the argument made no logical …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 02:21 PM
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And what exactly am I projecting?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 02:17 PM
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If you have read the paper then why didn't you understand the argument lol? It really sounds like you are bullshitting and not very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 02:16 PM
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Sigh... yes I get that. You mentioned that already what does my 'A' have to do with it. I am not questioning your mentioning of legislation. Just the 'A' since you seem to think I am misunderstanding your intention of the comment. W/e lets just move on. Most likely you were being snippy or stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 02:14 PM
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I treated you like an intelligent person. If you are intelligent don't be intentionally daft. If you are not well... The paper is A Defense of Abortion by Judith Thomson. I am probably much more well-versed in this subject than you. How many academic papers have you read on abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 02:10 PM
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Yes... and why bring it up in your comment about legislation. I wasn't the one who tied it to a comment about legislation that was you. Surely you had a reason so say it...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 02:05 PM
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Are you stupid or something knowing a possible outcome is not consenting to that outcome. It is basic logic in a critically acclaimed educational paper that I cited that argues for pro-choice. It is not my fault if you are too stupid to understand it. No one cares if we know that PIV sex has 2 possible outcomes. That disputes nothing. My argument which I adopted from the paper is outcome-independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 02:02 PM
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Except you just repeated yourself and quoted yourself... So no you actually didn't. I will quote myself again since you have not presented anything new to the discussion: Knowing a possible outcome doesn't equal consent. And plenty of hetero couples feel that way. It is used in a famous pro-choice paper, Judith Jarvis Thomson: A Defense of Abortion. Also, pregnancy does not equal raising a child unless you are against abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:58 PM
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Then how did you take it lol why mention my 'A'?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:56 PM
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No, I am saying they are increasing their likelihood of an event happening. Are you really so daft you need everything explicitly laid out for you like a child? I expected too much of you apparently... Just because you know an outcome is possible or even increase the likelihood of it happening does not mean you consent to said outcome. I think you are missing basic reasoning skills here... This isn't even my argument it is from a famous academic paper. Maybe you just aren't smart enough to under…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:55 PM
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We just quoting ourselves lol... C'mon think a little and try to dispute my points. If you can't then move on...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:52 PM
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Yea and you took it that I thought because I got an 'A' that would affect legislation lol... just very strange
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:50 PM
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Wtf kind of comment is this lol... Where did I say it did?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:45 PM
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Yeah, srsly I really don't care what other ppl think. If they wanna think I'm rude or perving or whatever I really don't care. I am not gonna walk slower or accommodate them. If it bothers them they can leave or move. If it doesn't great carry on then!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:44 PM
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At least you are consistent. I will never fault someone for being against abortion since it is at its core ending another human life. You can try and dress it up or sidestep the issue however you like but the fact remains you ended an innocent human life. So I will never say it is wrong to be against that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:40 PM
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Just because you know of a possible outcome does not mean you give your consent... I know if I dress skimpy in a club I could get groped does not mean I give my consent to be groped. I know if I leave my window open someone could steal something that does not mean I give consent to have something stolen. Knowing a possible outcome doesn't equal consent. And plenty of hetero couples feel that way. It is used in a famous pro-choice paper, Judith Jarvis Thomson: A Defense of Abortion. Also, pregnan…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:27 PM
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Not as universally as walking away from a child. Most liberals are fine with abortion and support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:36 PM
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I wonder how you are coming to your conclusions? I mean we know based on data that women's options decrease as they age. Are they better or worse than men's at a certain age I wouldn't know I would need to see some data. Though looking at data released by apps it follows general logic that men hit on women their age and younger and as they age that follows suit. So women that are younger have a huge set of men to choose from that diminishes as they age. Men, as they age, have a larger set of wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:22 PM
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Dude no woman will dump you for asking about n-count unless she doesn't like you... My gf mentioned my n-count and brought it up because she was curious and I didn't dump her lol...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 11:56 AM
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I mean you are going on this large rant but dude no one has to live their life how you see fit... If a dude wants to dip upon hearing this girl was a prostitute/pornstar/whatever that is his right. You are trying to shame ppl to act a way you see fit. Which is ironic because you want men to stop shaming women into acting a way they see fit... The hypocrisy and lack of thought are astounding... What is even the problem if you are a guy and other men don't want high n-count women that is just more…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 11:48 AM
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There are plenty of different groups of men but let's summarize some things: Fear: Men fear being cheated on or unfaithful women. They fear being seen as replaceable. Men just like women want to feel special in their relationship. Fear 2: Men fear living up to past men. This is another valid reason. Men usually are the ones performing during sex and for some they can fear they are not up to snuff with other men. Jealousy: Some will try to hide it but it is apparent some men are jealous of the ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 11:45 AM
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Ehh that is a weak argument. Someone cheating on you doesn't reflect on your value. More men cheat than women though plenty of women cheat. I don't think it is a reflection that they are necessarily lower value. Some ppl just have low self-control.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 11:42 AM
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The men just fear being cheated on and an unfaithful woman. I think the answer you are looking for is pretty obvious. A high n-count woman will always need to do more to prove she is loyal. A man with high attention from other women would also need to do the same to build trust with his partner. Also, women do care about n-count. I have also had my loyalty tested multiple times by different partners. That came about because of n-count or perceived n-count. Women don't prefer high n-count in men …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 11:29 AM
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Yep but never the girl you are gonna marry
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 11:15 AM
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Yeah, this is why abortion should be illegal. Ppl want to duck responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:57 AM
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In this instance, society is heavily sexist but if ppl challenge these ideas it will slowly change. You have famous ppl like Dave Chappelle challenging this and I have even challenged this in an abortion class. Got an 'A' and most ppl in the end agreed. Most ppl are pretty reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:55 AM
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So you are against abortion I take it since all those sound like reasons abortion should be illegal. Both parties know sex can result in a baby no matter what precautions they take. If you’re a woman who has casual sex and doesn’t want a baby, you’re an idiot for complaining if you haven’t used birth control/etc. If a woman is really not able to understand that sex can = a baby, she should consider only having anal sex (if she can control himself). If not there’s always the option to sleep with …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:53 AM
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Yes, and what is wrong with thinking that way? If having sex without a condom is choosing to be a parent as you mentioned, then shouldn't those parents live with the consequences?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:49 AM
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I mean we are part of society. Things will change eventually but you need to be strong in your views. I challenge ppl on this topic regularly (men, conservatives, women, liberals, etc.) and there is no way to defend abortion without giving men a way to opt-out without looking sexist. Of course if you are pro-Life then you are consistent and can deny men a way to opt-out as well. It is one of my favorite debate topics for many reasons. Mainly because you can take it so many different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:48 AM
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First off consent to sex is not so sent to raise a child and it is a stupid argument. If we follow ur logic all abortion should be illegal. It is as dumb as saying women that dress slutty are asking for it and tons of other examples. Sure their actions increase the likelihood of a negative result but that doesn't mean they consented for that to happen. Is stealing legal if I leave something in plain sight and easily accessible? Being stupid is not consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:44 AM
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It doesn't matter if the condom broke consent to sex is not consent to raise a child... There are many pro choice arguments u can read about this from prominent women supporting abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:39 AM
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I think he is just pointing out the sexist double standard. Yep u can't control ppl judging others
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:37 AM
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So abortion should be illgal then... Since all women choose to be mother's implicitly by the act of sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:35 AM
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Nope because he is telling the woman before she has the kid... Also it isn't a kid yet but a fetus. Now If u feel it is wrong to abandon a fetus u must also be against abortion because killing a fetus is worse. Otherwise u r just sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:35 AM
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Consent to sex is not consent to raise a child. The woman had the option to raise a child or not. The man also has that option. Either we are pro abortion and everyone can opt out or we hold ppl responsible for choices and are pro life. IDC but be consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 10:33 AM
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I mean if you are average guys probably try on you because it is less risky than a hotter girl which they consider above their level. Most guys don't like to get shot down so are selective and ask who they think is a decent chance of working out. Also, ask your guy friends how many girls they have asked out in the past week/month/year. It is not a high number... According to this on average males have asked out 4 women in the past year: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-how-and-why-sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 03:14 PM
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I mean most guys are not like that. Only guys that are probably having trouble getting sex or are really horny because of their hormones (so pretty young). I dunno after a year or 2 of college my hormones have calmed down. I know plenty of men that probably wouldn't care to try anything on you. Also, there is a difference between willing to fuck and thinking about sex with you or w/e. Most guys are not flirting with all of their female friends. Sure plenty of guys would be willing to have sex wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 03:09 PM
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Just do the guy a favor and break up with him. I dunno if a big game is on and my girl makes even a small deal because I wanna push something back an hour she is just too high maintenance. Dunno sounds insane to me. How about he wants to do both and is choosing to do both... You aren't entitled to him anytime you want and he should have time to do things he wants. If you don't support that you are a toxic partner. Your female friends seem toxic as well. I hope you do everything you want lmao... …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 01:25 PM
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Stop caring what ppl think. Is it wrong and sexist yep but I am younger than you and realized that these days ppl are gonna think shit of you or get offended by something eventually. It is the culture we live in. So who gives a fuck lol? Just do what you want it is more empowering knowing the system is fucked up because you stop caring what other people think. You are not obligated to live by anyone else's morals. Do what you want and what makes you happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 12:37 AM
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That article is stupid and most of the articles on this topic are written from a women's perspective. Women are not going to initiate if they know they don't have to because you will. Having someone else do the initiating is more fun. Most of men's problems come from them being way too desperate for sex. Like jesus don't let sex run your life. Whoever is more desperate for anything loses the power in that interaction. If you are more desperate for sex you are giving her power over you. The artic…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 12:16 AM
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A chubby chaser is just a desperate man. Women aren't as desperate for sex as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 12:54 PM
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There's never been a time ur gf wanted sex and u weren't in the mood? Also, if ur around girls enough they make moves. My point is that ur prolly enough. U don't need to be top 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 12:35 PM
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That just sounds like friends not partners? I dunno I believe if ur not having sex ur in a friendship not a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 12:27 PM
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What about when girls are the ones making moves? What about when the girl wants to have sex but ur not that horny or wanna do something else? Girls display actions of sexual attraction and it doesn't only happen to chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/20 12:26 PM
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80% of men are not unattractive lol that's way too many. In fact most of the women on here are with partners that are not in the top 20% and they find them attractive. You would be surprised how many average or below average ppl others find attractive. I think fat ppl (most ppl in the us) are nasty but some ppl still find them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/20 10:28 PM
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I mean most of my friends are more liberal and I have the same experience as a bi dude. In fact, almost all bi dudes keep that shit hidden for the same reason. Girls won't accept it. Never had a problem with a dude being grossed out by it except for some dudes not acknowledging it as a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 12:01 AM
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Ehh I am bi and have a girlfriend but she is also bi. Most girls I dated were not into the idea of bi guys and I would approach the subject without overtly letting them know I was bi. Every girl was against it. Also, nope I am still in college. It is a problem with young girls as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 11:57 PM
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I wouldn't say many gays want that at all. The majority of gays look and act just like normal guys. Most dudes are in the closet.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/20 11:55 PM
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But that stops once school stops. She is an adult, feminist and champion for human rights lol... You are comparing her to a male child
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/20 10:20 PM
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What have u personally gotten away with jw?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/20 12:38 AM
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Ehh i think most men really taper off how much porn they watch once they start having sex and arent teens anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/20 05:49 PM
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I probably won't be able to convince you but I am probably 98% sure it was the truth. She could have been nudging the numbers to appear more innocent that is true tho idk for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 09:16 PM
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I kinda believe it because I wonder if it is happening to me sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 09:00 PM
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Not true. I have had women ask me and tell me. They will tell you if they think it is a reasonable number for themself. If they don't tell you it means they are probably ashamed of it. For instance, I avoided the question because she had a lower n-count and I thought she would look down on me kinda if ours were too mismatched. I could lie but lies will generally catch up to you imo. It is best to avoid lying when you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 08:55 PM
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Half of these are not even humor they are just the actress laughing while being interviewed because she is a bit embarrassed about what she is saying. Also, the point of the post isn't the comedy it is the double standard which anyone with basic reading comprehension could understand.... Ur point about male strippers were wrong and ur perspective on this issue is just idiotic. Like I said ppl have different tastes in comedy. I am sure Trump supporters and Warren supporters have very different vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 03:18 AM
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Dude no one gives af about comedy that isn't what we are discussing and ppl have different tastes in comedy. What u might find funny other could find trashy or insulting. Ur stupid attempts at bringing up comedy don't change anything about what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/19 02:52 AM
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It could be thirst because they are after the qualities rather than the man himself
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 05:50 PM
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No you are wrong. What about gay ppl? Also some guys are very committed and would absolutely mind. You are assuming consent which women have been complaining about for a while
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 05:32 PM
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Lol no male strippers def provide sexual excitement. There is some humor just because humor makes everything better. As someone that has done male stripping u couldn't be more wrong about it being based around humor and not sexual excitement. They don't choose fat comedians to be strippers lol... A frail elderly man or very young teen boy exposing himself is seen as abhorrent. It is about unwanted sexual experiences. Even though they are not touching ppl and physically are weak it is still bad. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 05:27 PM
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Except he is completely wrong lol and only ppl who are sexist would think it makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/19 05:07 PM
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Thats what I thought :)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 11:01 AM
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Umm no I just explained my argument... It is literally in the first statement You started the attitude but you clearly are not capable of recognizing that. I am younger than you (assuming ur born in 1993) and more successful. Have fun looking up at me from the bottom while I am at the top. Also just know ur bf will never be as fit or successful as me. I work 20 hours a week and make six figures while in college lmao. I am just getting started. resort to pathetic attempts at hurting me I am just …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 10:56 AM
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Sexism in courts policies, culture, and society at large... That doesn't mean I think all men are owed a family or sex. Listen ur clearly stupid. So I am not surprised that you can't read. Sexism doesn't mean sex. Sexism definition: prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination on the basis of sex (gender). I am wealthy. You are likely poor and stupid. Unlike you, the state of laws pose a risk to me and I would like that to change. Ur tag is funny... I can't believe someone as stupid as you would e…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 10:41 AM
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Never said they were... Ur clearly not too bright
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 10:31 AM
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You try to find the flimsiest reasons to dismiss things you disagree with. I am smarter than you, make more money than you, have more sex with girls and guys than you, in better shape than you and more attractive lol. also they tend to fuck absolute garbage tier examples of both genders I doubt you have fucked anyone at all lol... First you doubted I had sex, that didn't work so now you say I am insane lmao... Yes because clearly I am paid six figures because I am insane ok buddy... Keep moving …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/19 12:39 AM
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First off I am bi... So I can literally get laid anytime I want lol. Second I am in insanely great shape, in college and make over six figures lol. Also I have a gf and she lets me sleep with other ppl... Oh yeah and I work bachelorette parties. So yeah I get laid way more often than you. Nice try tho... Guess what men can care about men's issues and not all men are so desperate for sex they need to suck up to women in the hope one will touch them lmao... I definitely wouldn't have all this if I…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 11:53 PM
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I mean it just happened to a very wealthy youtuber I follow his wife left and took his kid and now he never sees him. That is an example of a man with wealth and power. Obviously you don't care because you are a woman and it doesn't affect you. The thing is it shouldn't happen at all. If it barely happened at all men wouldn't make such a big deal about it lol... Then there is still the issue of women getting custody and men fighting to see the child a once or twice a week. At that point, you rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 10:55 PM
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Yeah, I do live in a pretty liberal city. Men are highly praised any time they are seen caring for their own children, and are often given compliments like “Oh you’re such a great father!” for doing the same things women are taken for granted for. That is an example of men being feminine. Caring and nurturing children is a feminine trait. Just like women earning a lot of money and providing for herself or her family is seen as a big deal and empowering for women. In men, it is ignored and expect…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 10:11 PM
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Tomboys as a compliment while boys who aren’t into sports used to be called “girls” as an insult. Maybe I am in the US so it might be a different culture. Tomboys are usually more about girls who don't dress as girly and are just more rowdy in general. I have never heard guys who are not into sports called girls. Most guys are not participating in sports. It would probably help if they did though because many are in poor shape. Men are obviously better athletes, but more importantly, public athl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 08:24 PM
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Nah, women are adopting masculine traits like independence and assertiveness to survive in the modern world that doesn’t reward most traditional feminine traits Women have always been more assertive than men since I have been alive at least. I don't know if you have ever worked a service job but women were more likely to be difficult customers. ​ They’re not insulting traditionally masculine traits like assertiveness, athleticism, or leadership as somehow being stupid and inferior like so many m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 05:52 PM
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Ok, who cares who said what? That was like a million years ago. I don't care. These days you are paying for everyone else anyways if you pay taxes so you might as well get more rights out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 02:31 PM
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women rejecting the conventional femininity that men insulted and rejected and apparently didn’t particularly appreciate much Now women are doing the same to men. If men don’t appreciate or need femininity, then why should a woman bother doing conventionally feminine work for a man who won’t appreciate her, when she can just support herself instead? Switch the genders and it sounds like MGTOW
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 02:24 PM
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Ok, that is good. In this instance, though you are saying the men don't need this choice because they should act a certain way to negate it. That is pushing your beliefs. It should be his choice to use it just like it is your choice to drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 02:23 PM
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I am not complaining about getting laid. I was complaining about your double standards for men and women. Also, I just think it is stupid we are supposed to accept fat ppl (mostly girls) and act like that is ok. I was using it as an example as the same thing these guys are doing... Whining and making other ppl change instead of changing yourself. Of course tho since it is women it is ok
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 02:20 PM
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I don't know incel's opinions. I never go on those subs. I pretty much stay on this one for this type of stuff. Still, incel isn't a group or anything. I thought it was just someone who couldn't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 02:06 PM
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Nah I care about these numbers and almost definitely have more sex and crazier sex escapades than you do... You are just trying to shame ppl to accept your rhetoric and it isn't working because you are not smart enough to do it...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 02:03 PM
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Yep, that is me exactly. I have no probs getting sex. However, my thing is the unfair laws and how society favors women subs like these woke me up to it. I refuse to get married or at least sign the certificate. I will have a ceremony tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 01:53 PM
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I mean, if you want to call sexual dimorphism an excuse, sure. Same caloric intake and exercise, women will have a higher body fat percentage than men. You are talking to the wrong guy I know more about working out and fitness than you and am in way better shape. No one is talking about taking calipers and finding out a women's bf%. She just needs to not look fat. Women can do that with a higher bf% than men. So it evens out women have more fat but they have breasts and can carry fat better at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 01:47 PM
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No it's not. People are fine with guys who've never had sex. People are just not tolerating bitter virgin men who write about how women deserve rape, death, or oppression. Haha no they are not. I don't know what kind of ppl you have hung around with... If guys were fine with it, it wouldn't be an insult. Blame people like Elliot Rodgers and that one killer in Canada. They're the ones calling themselves Incels. Not gonna like have no idea who those ppl are. I don't follow the news. Just seems lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 01:46 PM
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Irony because now the oppositte will happen with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 01:41 PM
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Political action in the forms of mens rights will arise is the most likely outcome. Maybe a menimism thing similar to feminism but for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 01:37 PM
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Is that all you do make excuses for women... Idgaf there is no excuse for being fat stop eating and hit a gym. Yeah, women have more fat but they also have breasts that can store more than men. According to your hypothesis, an equal or greater amount of men will want to date the 35 year old woman compared to the number of women who will want to date the 35 year old man. I dunno. I am not in my 30s so I don't even know what your average 30s something looks like but probably yea.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 01:35 PM
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Different sets of guys...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 01:24 PM
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A dry period is not a year... A year is a long ass time to have no sex. If you can't get sex in a year you are an incel lol...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 01:23 PM
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Is that really what incel stands for? I still think it is more embarrassing for guys to be called a virgin than an incel just because no one even knows what is stands for anymore... I thought it was just ppl who can't get laid. You are saying it is ppl that Wishing death and rape on women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 01:21 PM
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I always doubt these. Every woman on here always says she married or is with an alpha lol... Like no most of you are not married to or with an Alpha. Not necessarily saying you are lying but some girls def are on here
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 12:48 PM
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Dude women are the same way. They just don't have to work for sex that is why so many women are fat and started the fat positivity movement instead of going to the gym... I just don't like this double standard of calling men lazy when women are just as lazy...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 12:41 PM
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I think the argument is going like this a woman that is a 6 might traditionally end up with a 6 when younger but in the current state fucks 8/7s. When she goes to settle down though and get a commitment for marriage it is a 6 and he has some issues because of this dynamic. Obviously, she is one girl and if she is happier with the 7/8s when younger then go for it. The system is what it is... One guy or girl can't really change it. ​ Yay I got a woman who hates my guts and deadbedrooms me but at l…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 12:24 PM
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It depends where she stands. If she is very attractive with a good RMV she will be fine imo. There are only so many men and women. It is the women that will need to start pairing with some of these men to start a family that will be affected by this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 12:10 PM
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Nothing but in a lot of ways they are even worse options after going through that experience when they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 12:07 PM
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Yeah but these guys will always be jaded now. When they are out with friends and one guy mentions some crazy experience he had in college that guy will know he missed out on all that. Guys have egos and they are important things. These guys will have resentment, more of an urge to cheat, misogyny issues, fragile masculinty, depression, etc. Pretty much they will be mentally fucked because they will always know they failed at a prime objective of their life even if they later get in a relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 12:05 PM
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Yes, and it is especially alarming young men are doing this when their sex drive is at its highest. It will only get worse as my generation gets older and their sex drives diminish.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 12:00 PM
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I think it may make men, in general, more misogynistic or wake up to the sexism that hurts men and benefits women. I could see men's issues becoming larger in the future as empathy for women decreases due to dispelling the WAW effect. This is going to make a large portion of men jaded. Just like as how the wealth inequality increases it makes ppl at the bottom angrier. The men at the top will be having more and crazier sex and even if these men finally settle down with a woman they will always k…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 11:56 AM
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Yep, I think this will bring about some interesting changes in the future but hopefully, this can tie into men's rights somehow and making it more visible and accepted as more men turn to the internet for help with these struggles.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 11:51 AM
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That's not all men and the men that is for usually don't get very far.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 11:48 AM
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I think every guy starts out wanting to play. However they just barely tried or stopped trying because they think they have no shot. They get used to that and now they kinda lost the desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 11:41 AM
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If those women wanted a man and truly wanted a family they could get one at any moment. Not really. They can get a man for sex for sure no probs. However, finding a man to romance or woo you and commit is much tougher. There are only so many eligible bachelors to go around and the numbers get lower as you age. Also going by the chart more men are kinda just giving up. If young men are giving up when their sex drive should be the highest it doesn't look good for men as they get older. Your sex dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 11:24 AM
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This idea that OLD made women pickier and less apt to settle with bottom barrel men (because what, we didn’t have eyes before?) is pure delusion. Yes and no. First OLD lets women and men know where they stand. In the past that was a lot murkier. You get a huge confidence boost when tons of hot ppl are hitting on you. Similarly, your confidence can take a huge hit if you struggle and don't do as well as expected. I know of plenty of girls that don't use OLD and they don't understand their options…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 11:13 AM
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No, I agree with you they probably are not trying. The real question is why did they give up or barely try. We probably live in different generations. Ppl in my generation were just more coddled and give up easier. I see it everywhere not just in dating. I go to college and ppl could make so much more money and be more successful but no one puts in any effort. Look at the Fat Acceptance movement by girls. Instead of going to a gym and controlling what you eat they take the laziest option and say…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 11:10 AM
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That could be true but maybe it is making that more apparent to other men and it is getting them jaded. A similar dynamic is happening with rich/poor ppl and classism. I was in another thread where a guy was calling anyone who makes a lot of money evil and it had a ton of upvotes... Like it or not everyone has an ego. For some ppl a way to protect their ego is to stop playing the game. That is a big reason I think so many men are celibate too. They were raised feeling loved and special and now a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 11:09 AM
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Nobody wants to be at the bottom. Virgins are usually seen at the bottom for guys. This is their attempt to put someone (incels) below them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 10:38 AM
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No, you are by infusing your beliefs into your policy choice. It is the same thing ppl who deny abortion do. You can say you would never get an abortion but still support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 10:38 AM
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Dude yeah I follow that guy. I write software and was so surprised when I heard him talk about that stuff and the comments but yeah, made me think about some stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 10:34 AM
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You are pushing your beliefs on ppl. All those same things could be said why we don't need abortion. It is about having more options...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 10:24 AM
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LPS Legal parental surrender
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 09:27 AM
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The way things are right now Women have a huge advantage in custody so at least in your scenario men have a bit more rights. Like that happens right now... lol. Women leave and the father never sees their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 09:26 AM
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Men already pay for other ppl's children. What do you think welfare is? Everyone who pays taxes is supporting other ppl all the time. Just add a bit more to the tab for kids to give men equal rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 09:18 AM
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Nope, I would be fine with taxpayers picking up the tab we already pay for ppl and children anyways through welfare. At least this is giving men another right in return for their money... Ehh, I can see mens rights issues growing in the future. I mean Trump is playing to angry white men to get votes. However, liberals or conservatives can play to men (in general) in a different way (men's rights) because there is definitely a sizable portion of men that want changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 09:14 AM
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You are pushing your beliefs on ppl. If men want to sleep around and have an opt out like women do via abortion that is fine. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean you should get to control someone else's life...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 09:06 AM
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Right now guys are screwed on CS. Just make the govt hand out the checks and another form of welfare. I don't even have kids but I would support it. I already pay taxes for welfare and shit adding more for kids to give men more rights is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 08:53 AM
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We already have welfare you are already paying to support other ppl and their children if you pay taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 08:47 AM
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I think it is fine. Everyone working already supports welfare for the most part anyway through their income. Plus most marriages end in divorce. Guys would end up paying a lot more through the current system anyways and if you are poor you don't really pay taxes so it doesn't affect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/19 08:46 AM
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No looks are the most important thing. I would rather be Chris Hemsworth than Bill Gates. I would rather be me than Bill Gates. Bill Gates even with money prolly didn't have a great sex life. Also, sure if you have money you might get some gold diggers but they won't actually be sexually attracted to you so the sex will be trash. I would rather have the looks than money every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/19 03:14 AM
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Yeah, I am just disgusted by fat ppl and hate the fat movement. Guys are just so desperate they are letting women get uglier and telling them they are pretty it is sad... I just think it is something ppl can change and control and are just lazy not to. Also, just because I am bi doesn't mean I like all men or something. There are a lot of ugly guys. Just like you prolly wouldn't wanna sleep with a good portion of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 01:41 PM
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Straight guys degrade themselves all the time and make fools of themselves or give up money, etc. We have tons of guys that even after degrading themselves are getting nowhere lol It is sad. Then those same guys when they finally get in a relationship are pussy-whipped because they know if they fuck it up it will be a long lonely road to find a replacement... I feel for them it is a sad way to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 01:41 PM
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Nooo, I am repulsed by fat ppl. I think ppl that have to settle for fat ppl are disgusting. However, if I am about to fool around with a group of girls (like last night was partying with a bachelorette party) and one is fat. I will play with her a bit to not piss her off and to get to party with the girls. It is the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 01:19 PM
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Also who am I gonna pay to fuck a wife in front of her husband. It isn't just about sex it is about getting to do things normal guys will never experience. I'm at the point Im not just looking for sex but memories and 🔥 experiences. I like to chase experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 01:02 PM
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That's ur opinion I don't think it is degrading at all even for straight guys. I mean I bet I have had a wayyyyyyyyy crazier sex life even with just girls than u because I am more open to shit. I don't even have time to take advantage of all the offers I get. Straight girls will kiss other girls at times. This is the same thing except even less. Also if it is so easy to buy sex or w.e why are so many guys complaining on this subject all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 12:56 PM
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Better than paying and wastng ur time hoping for pussy. I'm just saying. Just cuz ur straight doesn't mean u can't touch another guy. Plenty of straight guys and girls do shit like that. Like I said u won't die. Guys do nasry shit all the time to sleep with some pretty nasty girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 03:49 AM
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grandpa, uncles and boy cousins for male influence Those really don't make up for a father at all. Just like an aunt or w/e wouldn't make up for a mother. Your father/mother are around all the time and you feel a special bond with them because you know you are their child. I just don't think ppl should be able to create children without 2 parents. Adopt fine but not intentionally bring a child into a suboptimal situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 02:01 PM
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That really isn't the same. My mom was a single mom and my brothers and I never bonded with her partners for the most part. Having a father is important as is having a mother. A child should have both.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 01:56 PM
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Ouch, you got him. If you LTR or marry fatties you are not attractive sorry. Ppl say they like fat ppl but it is to protect their ego. Thin healthy women are always more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 01:34 PM
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Dude on the left would get more action. Gay guys tend to like slimmer guys usually. Guy on the right is too muscley.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 01:21 PM
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Nope, I didn't know I was bi really at that point. That is why that is all that happened with the dude. I wasn't really interested in that. I was more interested in fucking a wife in front of her husband. I mean your dick did get hard at the thought of him sucking right My dick got a bit hard but kept going soft. Prolly cuz I wasn't comfortable with guys yet and the wife was much hotter. She gave me a blow job and they swapped for a bit. I will say being bi and opening yourself up makes you uniq…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 12:19 PM
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Anecdote, I'm committed to my gf and enjoy the fact that she's low maintenance. If my previous relationship had me jumping through hoops for high maintenence gf I would not want to do that anymore in my next one. Yeah, I get that I am the same way. I get that you could appreciate you don't have to do those things. Those are valid feelings however so are hers that makes her feel less loved than your ex. The obvious solution is to compromise and acknowledge both ppl have valid feelings. Maybe you …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 12:03 PM
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Ehh you can get Blow jobs and stuff from other men without returning the favor. Also, if you are bi like me it is really easy to get into threesomes with other couples. Older, younger, same age, w/e... If you are straight you can use that to get some easy pussy. Just play a lil with the dude. My first threesome when I wasn't sure of my sexuality with guys the dude just wanted to blow me before I fucked his wife. So that is all I had to do and I got to fuck a wife in front of her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 11:59 AM
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More guys are gay or bi then ppl expect but culture represses experimenting with guys. That is why so much gay stuff happens in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 11:21 AM
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Because she feels less special. She would wonder if he really likes her as much as she thought. Ppls opinion and assessment of their relationship can change with new information. Apart of the reason she was happy is because she thought he loved her more than any women in the past. Now she finds out that isn't true. This makes her unhappy... Edit... Also u can say he actually does. But she loved feeling that way. If she no longer feels that way it doesn't matter what he actually feels. To her she…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 11:03 AM
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Yes, in the eyes of women, almost all men are ugly. I don't really believe this. I think women have an advantage with sex but that is because some guys are so desperate they will sleep with even fat nasty women... Like a lot of dudes have no standards at all. ​ I serve drinks at bachelorette parties and the women are very flirty there and regularly hit on me or feel me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 05:05 AM
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I mean I like showing off my body at the beach or water parks and getting stares or having women feel me up at bachelorette parties but you enjoy your ax-throwing...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 04:32 AM
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Dude then those guys are ugly... Don't know what to say. I get checked out all the time by women... At the club, at the gym, at school and at bachelorette parties that I work
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 04:29 AM
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Drinking and dancing is what I do a lot on weekends for fun lol... I'm a dude too. Maybe you just suck at dancing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/19 04:15 AM
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Most women would choose a hot in shape stud over bill Gates. Being attractive is more valuable than being uber wealthy. I would rather be Chris Hemsworth than Bill Gates. I would rather be myself than Bill. I just think Bill had a very mediocre to poor sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 11:41 PM
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I dunno I am in college and know a bunch of attractive girls that are great. I mean it is college so drama is everywhere but they are good people. Also yeah, u/kandyapple(z) I know her and she pretty much admitted to being fat. She definitely isn't hot. I mean you know how it is half the girls think they are hot just cuz guys mssg them online (even the fattest and ugliest girls get mssgs from guys). If you are fat you are by definition not hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 10:05 PM
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I will say FOMO is real in young ppl. Friends have told me about it and I have even used it to convince ppl to do things I want lol. Everyone wants to have certain experiences and you can even convince them of ones they might not even know about.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 09:53 PM
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Ok well sorry, you had to go through that. I hope you eventually can move past it. Not to be mean but maybe that super hot girl was dating down for you to be a quick rebound or something. Anyways, you know how it feels so remember that wrt to relationships where you dated down (your wife).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 09:53 PM
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"I bet she is so full of bullshit that I would want her the fuck out the minute I cum. Look how dressed to the 9s she is, I'll be damned if I'm paying for her lifestyle I dunno man that still sounds pretty jaded... Just because someone is hot doesn't mean they are full of BS or have an unattractive personality. It sounds like you got hurt and now you avoid situations in which you might get hurt again. That is fair btw I won't criticize that but it doesn't mean all those hot girls will hurt you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 09:39 PM
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Yeah, that is what I am saying. It really isn't a big deal to get hit on by someone you are not attracted to and sounds entitled to expect to only be hit on by ppl you are attracted to imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 04:17 PM
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I don't think men worry as much about being hit on by gay men as being seen as gay themselves. I'm bi and it doesn't bother me at all when ppl hit on me that I am not attracted to. I mean I get hit on by guys and girls all the time I am not attracted to. I work bachelorette parties and other events and pretty much get hit on, propositioned and felt up every weekend by girls and guys. I take it as a compliment mostly. I will say though that trying to be friends with guys or girls that have a crus…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/19 03:56 PM
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Ehh any guy who signs up to help raise another guy's kids is low value by definition... High-value guys have more options and don't need to put up with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 01:48 AM
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Yeah no one wants to willingly admit they settled or didn't get something as good as someone else it is human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 01:43 AM
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No, I mean that most ppl can get relationships because there are only so many to go around. In a polyamorous environment, it would just hurt ppl on the low end of the totem pole and help ppl at the high end. High-value ppl would just be in multiple relationships and take the place of mid/low value ppl and same with mid value ppl taking spots from low value ppl.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 10:02 PM
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Also, another point that would support my premise is that we still see homosexuality/bisexuality today. Meaning it is still being pass on through the generations. If homosexuality was a quirk why is it still here today? That is why I think it was designed to stop the males from killing other males before they get the chance to grow up strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 08:46 PM
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I was talking about being bi which was common practice in some cultures. Pederasty and Topping are forms of that. Every culture will have different stigmas and rules about masculinity. Point is that those cultures involved 2 guys having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 08:41 PM
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In plenty of species the males are the more attractive gender. I don't get what a chicken has to do with anything but it is amusing. No humans could also be programmed to be bi as well. Gay and bi are different things. Guys when they are young are as vulnerable as women it isn't until your late 20s that guys start becoming a true threat. Bisexuality could be a way evolution protects younger males from older more developed males. Otherwise why wouldn't you just kill your competition before they b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 08:34 PM
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Depends where u are on the totem pole. Partnering up with one person makes it so some ppl need to choose the ok or bad looking ppl.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 08:05 PM
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I think social stigma affects men a lot more because I think way more men would be bi without that stigma in place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 08:03 PM
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There are civilisations where it was a big part of their culture. I think most men are but culture affects their willingness or attitudes towards it. Tho I always thought guys who don't support gay or bi guys are just stupid. It just makes less competition for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/19 07:59 PM
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Most guys don't know how to fight period and are pussies. You may know a couple of short guys but those are the few among many. Nah not all dudes are very strong. Teens guys that don't work out at all are weaker than athletic girls. Once guys become an adult it is a bit different but they are not much stronger than girls. I am pretty strong and a skinny dude and girl feel just as weak to me. There is a huge variance in the strength of dudes. Meaning if you are a skinny dude you stand about as go…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 12:29 AM
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True no one has time to climb all the trees. Life is too short
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 09:45 PM
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No teens are around girl strength. Also, the teen and the girl are not fighting each other they are fighting some dangerous man that is likely much bigger and much more experienced at fighting. They are in the same position but way to ignore the essence of the comment to try and point out any flaw to invalidate it lol... Doesn't change anything that I said
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 09:15 PM
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How dumb... If you are really that scared just buy a gun. No most guys are not scared because they realize it is irrational even though plenty are like you said featherweights.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 09:11 PM
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Because they can't thrive in a conventional system so they opt out. Yes in an unconventional system, sure fat women might be the shit and obese short men can be more desired than tall buff dudes. In an unconventional system, anything goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 12:24 PM
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Some ppl have stronger convictions than others and some are more desperate than others, that is human nature. Fucking gays or animals is different than fucking women though. If you want to talk about gay guys it is the same there. Fat guys are at the bottom and fit/slim guys are at the top. Guys are naturally repulsed by fat ppl. How much fat someone can handle depends on what they have grown accustomed too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 12:21 PM
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