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I think a problem arises when the results come down to one specific thing. You did a lot of great things to improve yourself, but I have to ask, was the only reason you did them because you think it’s something women wanted? It sounds like you had a lot of great results. Just not in one particular area. I’m not saying it’s not an important area. Of course it is. It’s just one of the areas where the results don’t fully come down to just your actions, no matter how perfect they might be.
/r/ExRedPill22/07/26 07:00 PM
6

How is women having preferences a resource for men? How does that work to improve men’s mental health?
/r/ExRedPill20/07/26 06:31 PM
5

What types of resources for men have you looked into?
/r/ExRedPill20/07/26 10:07 AM
0

Is that even an argument?
/r/ExRedPill18/07/26 11:33 AM
4

No, you’re the weird one because you compare dating someone with a sexual past to driving a car someone has owned before. Your preferences, like I said, aren’t the issue, but clearly, the underlying thoughts that get you there are.
/r/ExRedPill05/07/26 12:13 PM
4

Do you know what delusions are? Because kind of a whole thing about them is that your brain finds ways to support them regardless of any actual relation to reality. I believe that you’ve had experiences that have formed this view, just as I’ve had a lifetime of experiences showing that it’s nonsense.
/r/ExRedPill05/07/26 11:55 AM
5

I mean, you said that after I had already made this comment, but yeah, we’re gonna disagree about who’s in denial.
/r/ExRedPill05/07/26 11:52 AM
4

Back at you, I guess. I doubt this worldview is going to help you much in life.
/r/ExRedPill05/07/26 11:49 AM
4

Having standards isn’t what makes this come across as insecure. It’s the way you describe those standards, and the way you seem to think that most people’s standards exist. Your absurd talks about high- and low-status partners, your stereotypical ideas about what standards other people have, your inconsistency in application are what come across as insecure. You talk like you see the world as this scaled ranking system, where certain qualities automatically equal “good partner” and other ones eq…
/r/ExRedPill05/07/26 11:11 AM
4

I mean, all of it? Men look for exclusivity while women chase status? No. Absolute nonsense. Most men want a woman with little/no sexual past? Not really, no. Guys notice the most modest girl in a group? Ridiculous. The loudest outrage comes from women with high body counts (or from the men who are with them)? Nope. The idea that sexual history affects the “value” of a person? Gods no. Your entire post is a fantasy.
/r/ExRedPill05/07/26 11:07 AM
6

Having experience does not necessarily mean you aren’t insecure, especially if you’re holding your partner to a different standard than you hold yourself.
/r/ExRedPill04/07/26 12:07 PM
5

I don’t necessarily think that you’re jealous or insecure, but your lived observations don’t line up with the vast majority of humanity, as far as I can tell.
/r/ExRedPill04/07/26 12:05 PM
6

Because you are applying it inconsistently. With men, you hold the actions of the individuals as separate from the group. With women, you apply your judgements to the group as a whole.
/r/ExRedPill01/07/26 07:01 PM
17

Then why does it apply to women but not men?
/r/ExRedPill30/06/26 06:19 PM
43

Why are you going to online videos to figure out what went wrong with your relationship? It’s an absolute certainty that they don’t know. You’re, quite literally, asking to be manipulated because it might make you feel better. Stop doing that. You don’t need to find a way to love women “despite them being selfish and manipulative”. You need to stop seeking out the idiots who tell you these lies as a way to make money off of you. Are there some women who have those traits? Sure, they’re human tra…
/r/ExRedPill04/06/26 11:39 AM
10

Why do you find it difficult to believe women who tell you it isn’t a problem but not men who tell you it is a problem?
/r/ExRedPill31/05/26 09:44 AM
6

It seems like you’re projecting your desires onto men as a whole. You think that having a bunch of women fawn over you would be best for your ego and for sexual experiences. I can understand why you might feel that way, but it’s not like that’s a fact or anything.
/r/ExRedPill25/05/26 04:15 PM
13

Is there any reason you need to have this effect?
/r/ExRedPill18/05/26 08:00 PM
1

Of course not.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/26 09:48 AM
27

I assume that anyone who confidently speaks about what “all of the people they know” think, regardless of the specific group of people, is either self-absorbed, stupid, or both.
/r/ExRedPill09/02/26 11:19 PM
4

Seems like you’re the one telling yourself that.
/r/ExRedPill29/01/26 09:22 AM
3

Seconding “The Body Keeps the Score” recommendation. It’s a great resource for all sorts of issues one might be having.
/r/ExRedPill18/01/26 03:07 PM
7

That’s not really a definition so much as a list of things you think shouldn’t matter, even though they obviously do.
/r/ExRedPill11/01/26 06:43 PM
8

What definition of real love are you using?
/r/ExRedPill10/01/26 01:05 PM
63

The idea of talking to women does not come from the redpill.
/r/ExRedPill25/12/25 04:05 PM
6

That very much doesn’t align with my experience of the blackpill ideology. I’ve known a number of people who followed the redpill to blackpill pipeline, and at no point did any of them feel like it was fundamentally their fault. If you do, I’m glad to hear it, but both perspectives seem very focused on external determinants, be they societal, genetic, or otherwise.
/r/ExRedPill17/12/25 09:31 AM
7

As far as I can tell, the only difference is that redpill still thinks that they have a chance of beating the game, while blackpill has given up. They both blame others, usually women, for societal issues, both believe in harsh, genetic truths, and both believe that they are special in finding the secret truth of the world.
/r/ExRedPill17/12/25 09:14 AM
3

How so?
/r/ExRedPill17/12/25 09:07 AM
14

At least in this sub, it’s highly unlikely you’ll find anyone who believes that blackpill ideology has any merit. It’s even further down the line from the redpill, and we’re pretty much onboard with that being ridiculous by the nature of our being here.
/r/ExRedPill16/12/25 09:38 PM
7

I give it as much credence as someone telling me about their visits with ghosts. That is to say, I believe that they believe it, while knowing that it obviously isn’t true.
/r/ExRedPill21/07/25 12:06 PM
23

I laugh, and then walk away.
/r/ExRedPill16/02/25 01:51 PM
44

I don’t really have any reason to think that women are less interested in relationships than men. I certainly know why women need to be more cautious about who they spend their time with, but it’s a basic human trait to desire relationships, and most people will feel drawn towards the romantic expression of that.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/25 01:38 PM
2

The idea of a “meta” existing is red pill slop.
/r/ExRedPill29/01/25 11:09 AM
1

Just guessing, but it might be to do with your karma? A lot of subs have karma requirements.
/r/ExRedPill28/01/25 04:02 AM
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I’m not a mod here, so I don’t know what your comment is meant to accomplish. I have no idea why your post was deleted. Was there no message with it?
/r/ExRedPill28/01/25 01:18 AM
4

Unfortunately, happiness is not a cure for hatred. There’s no reason that someone can’t be completely happy and still hate all sorts of people and groups, including some that they might belong to.
/r/ExRedPill24/01/25 10:44 AM
3

What has brought you to the rabbit hole?
/r/ExRedPill21/01/25 10:28 PM
5

Okay?
/r/ExRedPill18/01/25 10:24 PM
9

Who are you? Why should we engage with someone randomly calling us cowards with no context?
/r/ExRedPill18/01/25 01:10 PM
3

I don’t know what purple pill means, but you’re right that everyone who creates red pill content is a grifter trying to use men for profit at the cost of their health and wellbeing.
/r/ExRedPill14/01/25 12:12 PM
5

What do divorce rates have to do with all of this being nonsense?
/r/ExRedPill27/12/24 01:12 PM
2

I understand what your belief is. I was asking for the basis of that belief. What makes you think that sex is only enjoyable for men?
/r/ExRedPill27/05/24 08:05 PM
12

Okay, you seem to be conflating some things here. Porn is not abusive because certain actors don’t enjoy sex. For starters, porn is not just “filming people having sex” out in the wild; it’s a job, which can theoretically be enjoyable but is generally done for the same reason that anyone works: to make a living. You wouldn’t say that being a cashier is abusive because the person doesn’t enjoy counting and scanning things in their free time. Porn is generally abusive because many people are force…
/r/ExRedPill27/05/24 07:41 PM
16

That is a factually incorrect statement.
/r/ExRedPill27/05/24 06:51 PM
14

The disrespect comes from the “using them” part, not the “casual sex” part.
/r/ExRedPill27/05/24 06:47 PM
9

You can even be friends with people with whom you have sex.
/r/ExRedPill27/05/24 06:46 PM
11

Yeah, that’s not a quote supporting your claim. That’s my point.
/r/ExRedPill14/05/24 12:37 PM
11

That is not what the comment above is saying.
/r/ExRedPill14/05/24 12:20 PM
4

Why would it be?
/r/ExRedPill14/05/24 12:08 PM
1

You seem to be confusing “subjective” with “made up” and “objective” with “real.” That’s not how any of that works. Subjective standards can still have shared bases, and them having them doesn’t make the standard any less subjective. If every single person in the world believes the same subjective thing to be true, it is still exactly as subjective as it would be if only one person felt that way.
/r/ExRedPill28/04/24 03:13 AM
1

In my experience, they aren’t, or at least not by any measure of success that I would recognize.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/24 10:39 AM
1

What is “patronizing and arrogant” about being honest, exactly?
/r/ExRedPill04/01/23 10:27 AM
2

Oh, no, not a beta male. The horror.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/22 04:03 PM
1

No one in an online comment thread can possibly tell you how some hypothetical individual might act. Some women legitimately do care about status and prestige and money, just like some percentage of essentially every group of people will care about those things. That said, we have abundant evidence that it’s not something that every woman cares about, including the many women who have said that they don’t care and proved it in living their lives. One of the many issues with RP is this monolithic…
/r/ExRedPill17/08/22 08:45 AM
13

The process of leaving RP involved developing critical thinking skills and doing some self-reflection, so I guess you could say that the sheer amount of stupidity taught me to avoid that in the future. Is that a positive? Learning how to recognize stupidity?
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 08:53 PM
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Sure, RP makes all sorts of baseless claims. The fact that they claim it doesn’t make it true, and often, is a pretty fair indicator that it isn’t true, given that most red pill claims are nonsense.
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 07:33 PM
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Okay, but that’s my point? It’s your consideration of yourself as “unattractive” or “unseductive” that seems to be impacting you more than any actual traits. Tons of people love goofballs, and introverts, and people who aren’t “stereotypically masculine,” and dominance doesn’t even really factor into relationships.
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 02:50 PM
10

It sounds like you are bitter, which is probably related to why you’ve accepted RP nonsense as “true.” You have rage based on your perception of people that feeds into itself, stopping you from actually seeing what people around you are actually like, probably yourself included.
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 11:03 AM
4

You say you don’t think you’re attractive enough to make up for your flaws, but the only flaw that you mentioned has to do with you feeling unattractive?
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 11:01 AM
4

I’m guessing that means you’re probably overvaluing looks.
/r/ExRedPill16/08/22 10:59 AM
2

That’s not how evidence works. You can’t just wave your hands and turn anecdotes into evidence of trends, because they’re not.
/r/ExRedPill11/08/22 09:15 AM
5

How do you not hear that and immediately smell the projection? They’re lying, to get you to buy into (literally, oftentimes) their bullshit.
/r/ExRedPill11/08/22 03:22 AM
1

You were “fooled” how, exactly?
/r/ExRedPill11/08/22 03:17 AM
3

No, it isn’t, because in the example you’ve given, there’s actually evidence to support it. Statistical evidence, not anecdotal evidence. It is simply a factual statement, to literally everyone, to say that their experiences will not always be a reflection of reality as a whole, specifically because one person can only experience one perspective at a time.
/r/ExRedPill11/08/22 03:16 AM
1

It seems like, based on what you’re saying here, most of your issues have nothing to do with women and everything to do with these random expectations you’re putting on yourself. The idea that you have to be masculine to have a partner, or that you have to be “remarkable” or “uninhibited,” the idea that you would have to be insecure and bitter if you weren’t in a committed relationship by your 30’s. I would take some time to figure out where those feelings are coming from, because those expectat…
/r/ExRedPill10/08/22 01:49 PM
7

No, if she gave you a wrong number, there’s no chance of embarrassment for her, but there absolutely is a chance for you if you have someone else confirm it. Hell, asking is inherently embarrassing because of the simple lack of self-confidence demonstrated. The one example that isn’t embarrassing when given a fake number is finding out on your own from someone you have no theoretical potential of encountering again, aka calling the fake number.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/22 07:32 PM
13

Okay, correct me if I’m wrong, but if your goal is to “avoid embarrassment,” wouldn’t this be literally the worst thing you could do? It’s forcing an unnecessary confrontation either way, which will always be embarrassing, and the best thing it could possibly do, the best possible outcome, is that you come out alone with nothing. Much more likely, it will have active negative ramifications for you.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/22 07:14 PM
1

People have touched on a lot (nonsense competition, comparing yourself to others that aren’t even involved, etc.), but I just wanna touch on your last point about women being “mini-celebrities.” Even if that were true (it’s not), celebrities are still just people? Talk to them like a person?
/r/ExRedPill02/08/22 03:18 PM
5

It seems from what you’re saying here that you’re more considering some idealized version of “friends with benefits” rather than what an actual FWB relationship would be. Let’s be clear: although FWB doesn’t generally imply monogamy, it definitely is a type of relationship, and just like with any potential relationship, is potentially emotionally fraught. The simple truth is that sex doesn’t simplify things. Even with friends who have no desire to have a romantic relationship, adding sex into a …
/r/ExRedPill01/08/22 08:58 PM
1

Yeah, competition does nothing for me. No desire to be better than anyone.
/r/ExRedPill16/04/22 09:07 AM
2

I can’t speak to your brother’s condition or the ways in which it impacts his life, but do you think that’s an accurate comparison here?
/r/ExRedPill15/04/22 10:33 PM
1

If you believe that you are incapable of finding love, that will impact your ability to do so. People all over the world self-sabotage in love because they think they’re undeserving or incapable or ineligible for love.
/r/ExRedPill15/04/22 10:20 PM
2

I mean, you see how that’s a factor, right?
/r/ExRedPill15/04/22 10:14 PM
1

You don’t have to be, though. Not in the future.
/r/ExRedPill15/04/22 10:12 PM
1

You don’t have to be, though. Not in the future.
/r/ExRedPill15/04/22 10:11 PM
1

Why decide that?
/r/ExRedPill15/04/22 10:09 PM
2

You’re only defeated for good if you decide you are. No one else in the world can make that call.
/r/ExRedPill15/04/22 08:14 PM
2

Sorry, why is competition required to feel good about oneself?
/r/ExRedPill15/04/22 08:11 PM
2

Enjoying interesting things is a basic human trait. This “dancing monkey” thing of yours just seems like a cover to not want to actually do anything in life. Why do you want to be uninteresting? Would you want to date someone that doesn’t interest you? If so, why?
/r/ExRedPill15/04/22 08:09 PM
3

Why?
/r/ExRedPill13/04/22 07:30 PM
3

Complain about societies lies Tell a bunch of them ? Profit
/r/ExRedPill13/04/22 07:28 PM
1

I hope you’ll pardon me if my takeaway from this nonsensical rambling full of inaccuracies, sexism, and right-wing buzzwords isn’t “I’ve been brainwashed by feminism” and is more “this person doesn’t understand basic historical analysis.” If you won’t, well, my takeaway remains the same.
/r/ExRedPill06/07/21 05:56 PM
1

Well, I can certainly agree with one thing you said here: you don’t know what gender equality is.
/r/ExRedPill06/07/21 05:13 PM
2

So, because women have worked on a farm, the most sexist cultures are matriarchies? Because your mom did “male stuff,” people who care for their mothers are internalized misogynists?
/r/ExRedPill06/04/21 09:28 PM
1

What?
/r/ExRedPill06/04/21 11:58 AM
1

Vaguely? “Wrestling princess,” skilled and famed warrior, denied the chance to rule?
/r/ExRedPill06/04/21 10:29 AM
2

That’s not even sort of an answer.
/r/ExRedPill16/02/21 09:57 PM
3

I’m sorry, what’s the purpose of this post?
/r/ExRedPill16/02/21 02:29 PM
2

That’s neither simple nor a fact. It’s also an unsupported claim. You didn’t mention a single matriarchal society in your post, for starters. You seem to be confusing having feminine religious figures (gods or saints or what have you) for actual women having power, and then just push on to baseless claims about how others are the real sexists.
/r/ExRedPill09/02/21 01:03 PM
8

I guess I’m confused about what the point of this post is. You sorta just seem to be lurching back and forth between random statements while repeating things about “Mary as the Queen of Heaven” and “men being submissive to their mothers.” What are you trying to say?
/r/ExRedPill29/01/21 10:58 PM
3

I get that impulse, but if you go into a situation assuming something that may happen will happen (for example, a woman may judge my beliefs or actions negatively means that they will judge them negatively), you establish the response through your beliefs. If you think that someone is judging you, and truly believe it, then their actions and beliefs are meaningless, because anything they do will be seen ad judgement. If you assume rejection as the norm, you will feel rejected, regardless of the …
/r/ExRedPill24/11/20 01:49 AM
5

“Convincing” and “accurate” are two fundamentally different things, though.
/r/ExRedPill23/11/20 07:50 PM
16

If you’re looking for the least effort route, you’re probably right. It’s always easier to hate and blame others than to work on your self.
/r/ExRedPill23/11/20 04:44 PM
19

Have you considered that that hatred might be part of the reason you feel like women are disgusted by you, or a potential cause for rejection?
/r/ExRedPill23/11/20 04:19 PM
27

The main problems with the Redpill ideology are: the hatred and the “Us vs. Them” mentality. You’ve already said right here that there are people giving racist and sexist comments, but then excused it because “they mean something.” That mentality, that hatred of entire groups of people is okay as long as it gives you some personal relief or advantage, is inherently problematic. It’s a mentality that demonstrably leads to more harm than good, but people who hold it don’t care because it “hurts th…
/r/ExRedPill23/11/20 03:34 PM
2

True, but many companies also prohibit dating within the same department or location.
/r/ExRedPill29/09/20 04:48 PM
2

For what it’s worth, many if not most workplaces do have specific rules against dating in the workplace.
/r/ExRedPill29/09/20 04:39 PM
1

There isn’t a single answer to that question, because the “most powerful cultures to ever exist” do not believe in the exact same definition of masculinity, regardless of which cultures you put on that list. Moreover, there is not a single culture, past or present, that defines masculinity simply based on capacity to have children. It doesn’t exist.
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 04:18 PM
1

I really don’t. Masculinity has numerous definitions, which are determined by the culture in which the term has been used, and which have shifted over time. You are welcome to define it based on this one particular trait, but you should be aware that that definition is simply your personal choice, not anything to do with the actual meaning of the term, either in its original form or in any modern sense.
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 04:08 PM
1

Okay, except that has never been true. Even in cultures where the classical gender roles originated, the having of children was not the only standard for determining masculinity, once again to say nothing of the society we actually live in.
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 02:54 PM
1

Not only does that not “prove the inverse of your assertion,” it’s barely relevant to your assertion. You’re using a completely arbitrary standard as if it’s the only applicable standard, even though it wasn’t even the primary standard used by the person you’re discussing, to say nothing of the standards we actually use in modern society most of a millennium later.
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 12:24 PM
3

Did... you just make a genetic appeal to an ancient conqueror as some sort of philosophical counter in an online debate? I’m forced to ask the same question that started our conversation: what makes you think that argument might land with anyone? Seriously, I’m honestly curious what could make you think that’s even an argument here.
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 02:59 AM
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Wow. Let’s just run through all that for a second. We’ve got: A) Base level misogyny (not engaging in your personal beliefs about the male gender is weakness) B) Advanced misogyny (not embracing your personal beliefs about the male gender will mean the end of society) C) Nonsensical conspiracy theories (Islamic rape gangs in Britain) D) Literal random nonsense (the Office and jerking off? Just your average day, I guess?) You’ll be happy to know that none of the beliefs you’ve espoused are suppor…
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 01:21 AM
5

Yeah, you’ve got me pegged. I mean, we’ll have to ignore reality again for your assessment to be related to it in any way, but that’s never slowed you down.
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 12:54 AM
8

What happens when someone needs help in the real world and you’re too busy imagining nonsensical scenarios based on your personal biases to understand how the actual world around us functions?
/r/ExRedPill16/09/20 12:28 AM
9

I’m honestly curious, what made you think this message would be received well here? It can’t be actually believing that your worldview is realistic; that’s nonsense, so what is it?
/r/ExRedPill15/09/20 10:27 PM
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None of those things that you mentioned were facts. This is a place to get help getting away from that type toxic mentality.
/r/ExRedPill01/07/20 09:52 PM
3

Helping people get out of the ideology of “red pill” is the entire point of this sub, so using it as reasoning for anything seems counterintuitive.
/r/ExRedPill24/06/20 11:36 AM
1

Well, step one is talking to them. If they don’t know anything about you, why would they be interested in you? Beyond that, the biggest things you need to worry about are all internal. Where are you looking? Are you searching your shared interests? Are you engaging in online dating? Are you asking for help from friends or family? What type of women do you wanna be in a relationship with? What kind of relationship do you wanna be in? Why do you wanna be in a relationship? I don’t need to know the…
/r/ExRedPill20/06/20 11:12 AM
1

There isn’t a one-size-fits-all answer to that. Are you asking about a specific person, or just women in general?
/r/ExRedPill20/06/20 10:52 AM
20

At any age, there will be people who want to play games and those who don’t. Learning to differentiate between them is an important skill that you can only improve with practice.
/r/ExRedPill19/06/20 03:52 PM
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Simply put, no. While there are certainly individuals that may act that way, it is the exception, not the rule. The people who tend to enter relationships that way tend to be the same people pushing that narrative, which lets them use their personal experiences as evidence that it’s how others act, even when the evidence doesn’t support it.
/r/ExRedPill17/06/20 03:41 PM
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I haven’t, but I presume the movie doesn’t end with the realization that anger just comes from nowhere and can’t be controlled.
/r/ExRedPill15/06/20 11:42 AM
11

Okay, you’ve said that, but I’m asking why you think that.
/r/ExRedPill15/06/20 10:58 AM
18

You’re the only one putting that expectation on yourself, though, as far as caring about the number and needing to match up to some nonexistent standard. I’m wondering why you think there’s any number that you “should” sleep with?
/r/ExRedPill15/06/20 10:50 AM
11

Can I ask why your goal is just to sleep with as many people as possible?
/r/ExRedPill15/06/20 10:44 AM
2

So, let me preface this with: I don’t think this is necessarily the right sub for this. You may have had bad luck with relationships, but neither this post nor the comments speak to red pill thoughts. That said. Thinking a lot isn’t usually as much of an issue aa getting lost in your thoughts. If you think a lot and spend a lot of time worrying about what others are thinking about you, my advice would be to try and direct those thoughts inward. Forget what others think about you, and focus on wh…
/r/ExRedPill03/06/20 01:28 AM
1

What are you looking for here?
/r/ExRedPill03/06/20 01:15 AM
6

One could argue that all reality is subjective, and I’ve had that argument before, but there absolutely are things we can know with greater amounts of certainty, things that don’t change with interpretation. Mathematics, for example. It doesn’t matter what you believe about mathematics or how you were taught them, the fundamental principles remain unchanged. The main difference between objective and subjective reality is its verifiability. Objective things can be observed, measured, and verified…
/r/ExRedPill14/11/19 11:13 AM
10

Alright, perfect. I’m going to give you two questions, then, that should comfortably keep you out of any redpill mindsets. 1) Is this based in reality? 2) Why are they saying this? I’m going to go into greater depth here, but those two questions are a good foundation for avoiding redpill or any similarly manipulative mindset from getting a hold on you. Question one: is this based in reality? Much of redpill ideology relies on a number of very common logical fallacies. One of the easiest examples…
/r/ExRedPill13/11/19 09:46 PM
8

I’ve got to ask, are you actually redpill/MGTOW, or are you just concerned about heading that way. Maybe I’m misreading the post, but it feels like you’re saying that you aren’t there but are worried about falling into the easy comfort it provides. Am I right? I want to make sure I’m clear before continuing.
/r/ExRedPill13/11/19 08:09 PM
2

I mean, he’s a perfect example. Destructive, warmongering, oppressive. That’s patriarchy all over.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 10:43 PM
2

More belief statements without support. Also, why would we start anything with Genghis Khan? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 10:40 PM
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Well, it means a system where men hold the power, generally excluding women. That doesn’t mean that it’s the natural order, or that women have not had impacts on society, be it through philosophy, religion, technology, or government. It doesn’t make men the “Pioneers of Civilization.” It hasn’t even been true for all of human civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 10:30 PM
3

I just have two questions: What do you think the word patriarchy means? Have you ever heard of the word matriarchy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 10:20 PM
2

Well, Teflon did, for starters, and you are now. You’re claiming that all of these important things (plus religion, hey) came from men, telling me to look things up but providing no sources, and downplaying the effect that an entire gender had on the entirety of civilization. You have provided no proof for your claims, just added more of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 10:14 PM
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I don’t need sources about men inventing things, because I don’t dispute that. What I am disputing is your belief that all of society, religion (the Bible isn’t a religion, by the way), technology, government, philosophy, mathematics, and more were created by men without any input from women. You provided a broken metric for that claim, which I have given proof against.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 10:01 PM
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The cause of my confusion is that you think that having a higher number of inventions means anything about the impact that an entire group of people have had on society. The claim that “men are the pioneers of society” is meaningless unless you back the claim up, to say nothing of the fact that it’s both impossible and irrelevant. That said, I’ll repeat: I’ve provided support for my claims. Can you do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 09:53 PM
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You’re right, I didn’t cite my sources: the-scientist.com/profession/us-patent-and-trademark-office-study-finds-more-inventions-credited-to-women-61051 factmonster.com/math-science/inventions-discoveries/inventions-by-women usatoday.com/story/money/2019/03/16/inventions-you-have-women-inventors-thank-these-50-things/39158677/ theguardian.com/global/2019/jul/19/apollo-women-man-walk-on-the-moon Again, these were just in the first few seconds of searching, but if those sources aren’t to your likin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 09:41 PM
2

Throughout this entire conversation, by providing proof to oppose your unproven claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 09:35 PM
2

I have disproven your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 09:33 PM
2

Whether or not you believe me isn’t honestly the point. Your arguments are flawed, your standards keep changing, and you continue to demand proof while providing none in return. When you’re ready to have an actual discussion, let me know. Until then, good luck to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 09:28 PM
3

If all you’re stating are beliefs, and your beliefs are being refuted with facts, why do you keep believing them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 09:20 PM
3

Among the incorrect facts given so far: Less than 0.1% of inventions were created by women 99.9% of inventions were created by either the 19th or 20th century Men are the pioneers of civilization
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 09:11 PM
2

So, to your two points: if we’re being literal, you’re wrong, because your facts are incorrect. If we’re being practical, it doesn’t matter who made the initial point, because I’ve been responding to you for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 09:06 PM
3

I’m sorry, are we talking about inventions and technical aptitude or are we talking about random accomplishments? Neil Armstrong didn’t invent anything to get onto the moon, and it’s not the fault of women that they weren’t allowed to be astronauts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 09:00 PM
3

Once again, your own examples aren’t even on your side. Very first example: men walked on the moon. Do the names Margaret Hamilton or Katherine Johnson mean anything to you? I’m guessing not, but they were essential to the Apollo program across the board, including the moon landing. You aren’t even making an argument anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 08:54 PM
2

No, I don’t have all the answers, but that doesn’t mean that everyone’s interpretation is equal. Mine, for example, is based on scientific and historical study of society, backed by sources and empirical evidence. Yours is so far just a bunch of claims made into the ether, all of which fall apart under cursory attention. Being a member of a society does not mean that you understand how it functions, nor does it make you knowledgeable about the historical context leading up to our current state. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 08:44 PM
3

No. No I am not agreeing with you. What I said was, “Even if we were using that broken standard and accepted your faulty measure of impact on society, you are still incorrect about your measure.” You have a fundamental misunderstanding about how society works, as well as an inane belief about the number of inventions in the world and when they were created, all of which are disproven by even a cursory search of the web.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 08:36 PM
2

Do you think that’s the only example that I have of women inventing things? I got that name from a list of inventions women have been credited with, a list which also acknowledges the very point you seem to be ignoring, which is that (as happened with Justice Masters and his wife), we can’t know how many inventions created by women were credited to men because of those very laws you tout. You’re disputing the effects of women on science, philosophy, on society as a whole, based on a premise that…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 08:26 PM
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Well, the first American woman credited with an invention was Sybilla Masters in 1712. Took seconds of researching to find. That’s more support for my claims than you’ve provided yet, including your statements about inventions. Where are you getting any of your numbers from, and why do they keep changing (19th century to the last 100 years, for example)? Why do you think number of inventions is a good metric by which to measure impact on society?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 07:55 PM
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So, there are a few problems with that statement. One, women have been inventing things before they were awarded rights by any governments. Two, “99.9% of things being invented by the 19th century” is a baseless claim. Three, if the internet is your source, then your source proves you wrong. It has plenty of examples of inventions by women. Final problem, of course, is that number of inventions is not an accurate measure of any group’s impact on society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 07:35 PM
4

Do you have any reason to believe that? A source, maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 07:18 PM
5

History does not support your so-called facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/19 06:43 PM
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Alright, so, two things: One: on “beta traits.” This is nonsense pushed by the redpill community. It has nothing to do with reality. The alpha-beta dichotomy is not a real thing. It’s not real in other animals, and it’s not true in humans. If women aren’t interested in what you’re putting out, it’s because they’re not the right women, not because you’re not alpha. You’ve got to break away from this mindset, because it’s based in fiction. Two: on artsiness. There are so many people out there who …
/r/ExRedPill18/08/19 11:17 PM
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What you are describing is not some hidden truth that redpill beliefs have revealed to the word. You’re just expressing standard insecurities combined with a perspective on relationships based more on media representation of relationships rather than what they’re actually like. The vast majority of romantic relationships don’t fall into either the “only together for money” camp or the “married your high school sweetheart for 55 years” camp. Both are possible, but neither are the norm. The simple…
/r/ExRedPill06/07/19 11:07 PM
6

Well, allow me to address those four points individually: Divorce: what is your concern here? That men are more affected by divorce in some way than women? Even if we were to assume a purely heterosexual discussion of marriage (which does not accurately encompass the discussion), it’s still something that affects both parties equally, by and large. Divorce is not a weapon, for the most part; it’s simply the ending of a relationship that doesn’t work, for reasons as varied as the reasons people g…
/r/ExRedPill25/06/19 08:00 PM
10

Well, as I mentioned in an earlier comment, I was never red pilled, so day-to-day, it doesn’t really affect me at all. As to your other two questions: What are my experiences with women? Varied and numerous, the vast majority of which were in passing acquaintance, same as men. For those who were more than acquaintances, I’ve had friends, coworkers, and yes, a few romantic dalliances. They taught me that, just as with men, you cannot assume anything about any individual by stereotype or assumptio…
/r/ExRedPill25/06/19 07:41 PM
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Well, for starters, your understanding of women is fundamentally inaccurate. Women don’t all “want a certain type of guy when they’re young and beautiful,” nor do they all want “a rich man to divorce when they’re 30+.” There may be some women who want either of those things, but that fact doesn’t make it the norm, nor does it make it any standard by which to judge women. We don’t live in a society where men are persecuted; quite the opposite, in fact, we live in a society where men have held the…
/r/ExRedPill25/06/19 07:19 PM
7

No judgment, seriously. Just wanted to make sure that you know what you’re going into. Now, what is it that you’ve realized by watching these videos? (I’d like to preface this by saying that, although I enjoy the subreddit, I was never successfully red pilled. I’d be happy to offer my experiences and knowledge, but I understand if that’s not what you’re looking for).
/r/ExRedPill25/06/19 07:01 PM
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You understand that, going in, everyone here disagrees with pretty much every red pill belief, right?
/r/ExRedPill25/06/19 06:55 PM
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Just want to clarify before I begin answering: are you ex-red pill, or are you recently red pilled?
/r/ExRedPill25/06/19 06:53 PM
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