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Rape culture as they define it does exist though. So the best way to counter it is to show how they are the source.
/r/MensRights23/08/14 08:58 PM
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Yep. They define rape culture as the depiction of male sexuality as predatory and female as passive. So they are the rape culture.
/r/MensRights23/08/14 08:57 PM
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They are pretty much group thinkers over there in the comments section, if you don't take whats said as gospel they are all over you strawmanning and pretending you are a feminist.
/r/MensRights01/08/14 06:02 PM
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Also maternal style. When feminists are talking about what toxic masculinity is, they are talking about things that are highly correlated with adverse childhood experiences - women commit the most family violence, go harder on boys and do the earlier socialization - then feminism blames men, society and masculinity for the outcomes of child abuse and bad parenting.
/r/MensRights31/07/14 06:29 PM
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What the hell does Marxism have to do with gender issues? Feminism is a marxist analysis of gender.
/r/MensRights31/07/14 06:22 PM
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It only refers to traditional traits - bottling up emotion, acting macho and not being able to ask for help. MRA's talk about toxic masculinity all the time, they just call it "man up" or some such. The irony is that feminists are the first in line mocking men that say men need help in some way.
/r/MensRights31/07/14 06:20 PM
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They say rape culture is teaching people that female sexuality is inherently passive and coy and like a gate while male is predatory and persists to finds ways to get around the gate. So these are examples of what they call "rape culture".
/r/MensRights30/07/14 09:31 PM
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Never argued that all things about gender are a social construct, the feminists aren't either these days.
/r/MensRights28/07/14 01:05 AM
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Probably trolls, just report them.
/r/MensRights18/07/14 01:23 PM
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Right, because factual information that contradict your beliefs is trolling should be censored. You are an mra that thinks - or should I say "feels" like a feminist.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 06:42 PM
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You ran to mommy and daddy because the bad man had information that contradicted you.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 06:01 PM
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There is no need to be so emotional, someone had some facts that you were not aware of, cope like an adult.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 05:55 PM
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Right, you just get abusive because the facts don't suit you. You're an emotional reasoner.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 05:54 PM
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They focused on the damage that was being done to masculinity and the male psyche by feminism. They are not feminists, they coined the phrase toxic masculinity.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 05:52 PM
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I see. I'm not credible because the facts contradict your beliefs. And you're projecting your characteristics on to me, you're an mra who debates like a feminist.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 05:50 PM
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Ah jesus you are stupid. Feminism is eradicating gender, the movement you are saying is feminist, is about restoring and maintaining a traditional masculinity. The mythopoetic men's movement is based on spiritual perspectives derived from psychoanalysis, and especially the work of Carl Jung. It is less political than either the profeminist or men's rights movement and has a self-help focus.[21] It is called "mythopoetic" because of the emphasis on mythology communicated as poetry with some appro…
/r/MensRights02/07/14 05:41 PM
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They weren't feminists any more than we are you idiot. They formed in opposition to feminism, and pro feminist males wrote articles in opposition to them. They are us, decades ago. From your own source The mythopoetic men's movement grew as a reaction to the second-wave feminist movement. Stop pretending you know what you're talking about. Have the intelligence not to alter reality to suit your biases.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 05:27 PM
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I'm not bullshitting though, you are projecting. Shepard Bliss who coined the phrase Toxic Masculinity was part of the mythopoetic mens movement which was response to feminism - that felt feminism was feminizing men and men should reclaim and re find their "true" or "deep" masculinity. Self avowed pro- feminist men, disagreed with Bliss Shepard and the mythopoetic mens movement. Issues here are 1) you don't know what toxic masculinity means when feminists say it 2) you didn't understand when mra…
/r/MensRights02/07/14 12:11 PM
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Yeah, I linked to passages from a book that describes how earlier men's activists coined the phrase toxic masculinity and began the conversation about it. I did that because unlike you, I'm not making it up as I go along and can back up my statements.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 12:56 AM
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Here you go idiot http://books.google.ie/books?id=Ld8OBEBoBGcC&pg=PA139&lpg=PA139&dq=shepherd+bliss+toxic+masculinity&source=bl&ots=d6eb-R2piy&sig=qrQ24cuEadaDPOlvT2gsJJOmz80&hl=en&sa=X&ei=vVazU-TzMoLEPOyUgNgN&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=shepherd%20bliss%20toxic%20masculinity&f=false
/r/MensRights02/07/14 12:49 AM
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No, men's activists came up with toxic masculinity and deep masculinity, feminists appropriated toxic masculinity and focus mainly on male violence how it affect women. There are lots of mra's that believe toxic masculinity means all masculinity or masculinity is toxic and don't realise that when they are talking about men not asking for help / not being helped and so on, are actually talking about toxic masculinity.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 12:44 AM
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Got a source for any of your statements? The only people who call it toxic are those who either never experienced it, or those who have experienced legitimate abuse from individuals that they have misattributed to masculinity. That's funny, because we are part of a large movement that talks about toxic aspects of masculinity all the time. Men not asking for help and killing themselves, men that need help being laughed at and mocked, male victims not being recognised, for examples.
/r/MensRights02/07/14 12:28 AM
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Its actually originally a men's activist word. There was toxic masculinity - the sort of conditioning the men's movement is against and the only type feminists mention (men up etc) and positive deep masculinity (the type feminists never mention!)
/r/MensRights01/07/14 11:53 PM
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Rambo would be the epitome of toxic masculinity. Traumatised, keeping it buried, not getting help, manning up ... etc.
/r/MensRights01/07/14 11:51 PM
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The conservative media doesn't "care". Its just something they can use and exploit to be in opposition to and to have some drama with the other side, who are also retarded. The american political system is designed to make people as polarized and retarded as possible, and then have them squabble while the rulers rule.
/r/MensRights01/07/14 08:08 PM
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