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| 1 | Only men can be the abusers. Only women can be the victims. Stop Violence Against Women.The former is way more common than the latter, given how the second is a pleonasm (which is commonly regarded as an error). Grandiose speeches and dramatic quotes can definitely use pleonasm to highlight certain traits, but in common speech (where you'd find "toxic masculinity") it's more likely to be restrictive than highlighting | /r/MensRights | 09/04/22 11:15 PM |
| 1 | Only men can be the abusers. Only women can be the victims. Stop Violence Against Women.The average person probably has some toxic values and behaviors, by virtue of being a human that is an imperfect being. Besides that, I did word my comments slightly incorrectly. With "traditionally masculine stuff" I actually meant "stuff traditionally viewed as being masculine". While broadly the same, they don't overlap in certain cases. And in the cases where those traditional views are toxic, that is toxic masculinity | /r/MensRights | 09/04/22 03:54 PM |
| 1 | Only men can be the abusers. Only women can be the victims. Stop Violence Against Women.So the belief "having to be tall to have worth" is toxic masculinity? Toxic masculinity is things that are traditionally seen as masculine, while actual just being asshole-ish in nature. Perpetuated either by men or women, that doesn't really matter. | /r/MensRights | 09/04/22 03:52 PM |
| 0 | Only men can be the abusers. Only women can be the victims. Stop Violence Against Women.It actually does. In your "pink elephant" example you specifically mean an elephant that is pink, implying other elephants exist. Otherwise, who the hell would be that redundant? You'd just say "think of an elephant" if all elephants were pink, and you were supposed to think of a pink one. No one says "the rooftops are covered in white snow", because white is the default. People just say "the rooftop os covered in snow". A descriptor adds specificity and implies the existence of other versions. … | /r/MensRights | 09/04/22 03:45 PM |
| 0 | Only men can be the abusers. Only women can be the victims. Stop Violence Against Women."toxic gender norms" works too, but if if we're talking about specifically masculine gender norms we might as well say "toxic masculinity" | /r/MensRights | 09/04/22 03:30 PM |
| 0 | Only men can be the abusers. Only women can be the victims. Stop Violence Against Women.You can talk about subsets of those behaviors, which is exactly what adding specification to the name does. There are traditionally masculine values and behaviors that are toxic, and that is toxic masculinity. It's not just behavior, it's about values and beliefs too. The thing is that we're not just talking about toxic behavior, we're talking about things traditionally considered masculine, that are toxic | /r/MensRights | 09/04/22 03:02 PM |
| 0 | Only men can be the abusers. Only women can be the victims. Stop Violence Against Women.It definitely does imply that, that's literally how the English language works. Specifying "toxic something" implies other versions of something, while saying "something is toxic" doesn't. And most of the time toxic masculinity is brought up I do see people talking non-toxic masculinity, so maybe you just frequent echo chambers | /r/MensRights | 09/04/22 02:45 PM |
| -19 | Only men can be the abusers. Only women can be the victims. Stop Violence Against Women.It's "the toxic parts of traditional masculinity", I think "toxic masculinity" is a pretty good name for it. Toxic masculinity implies the existence of non-toxic masculinity. | /r/MensRights | 09/04/22 02:31 PM |
| -17 | Only men can be the abusers. Only women can be the victims. Stop Violence Against Women.Only I've never seen "toxic masculinity" misused like that, but I have seen people using it to strawman. Curious. | /r/MensRights | 09/04/22 01:53 PM |
| -28 | Only men can be the abusers. Only women can be the victims. Stop Violence Against Women.Only retards are saying masculinity is toxic. What people mean with "toxic masculinity" is that certain aspects of masculinity is toxic. | /r/MensRights | 09/04/22 01:46 PM |
| 1 | No one I know would date a feminist or a trans. Feminists and trans should date each other.Maybe "original" wasn't the right word either. There were periods of time where feminists wanted equality, but sometimes the movement has been... problematic | /r/MensRights | 05/10/21 06:07 AM |
| 1 | No one I know would date a feminist or a trans. Feminists and trans should date each other.Fair enough, the thing feminists became has become a problem. But original feminists did not hate men | /r/MensRights | 05/10/21 06:01 AM |
| -4 | No one I know would date a feminist or a trans. Feminists and trans should date each other."a feminist or a trans" wow Also, again, feminists don't hate men, feminazis do You also seem to not understand the nuances of being trans, or you're just flat out transphobic. Either way, please educate yourself and stop spreading mindless hate | /r/MensRights | 05/10/21 05:56 AM |
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