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That tweet by ktkins can be summed up so easily
/r/MensRights10/06/16 05:51 AM
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I can definitely think of a situation where this isn't the case. ... <sup>Canadian men's soccer please get your shit together please</sup>
/r/MensRights27/05/16 06:57 AM
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If you can find them, sit down and have a conversation with them. Some of my good friends are close to what we'd call egalitarian, but merely choose to call themselves feminists for whatever reason. Good feminists exist but they're more often than not very quiet. The issue is not that there are bad feminists; every movement has its bad (or even horrid) apples. The issue is that some of these awful feminists have the ability to implement dangerous and/or misandristic policies that have an effect …
/r/MensRights27/05/16 06:46 AM
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I got banned from r/feminism for posting in /r/wherearethefeminists, which is a sub concerned partly with people getting banned from r/feminism. Pretty sure their ban-happy mod frequents that subreddit as well.
/r/MensRights27/05/16 06:38 AM
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The best part of this entire thing is the start of the rant. men fabricated the idea that they are the default sex to compensate for biological inferiority and general superflousness
/r/MensRights27/05/16 06:32 AM
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Bear in mind that in that context, she is putting the happiness of a woman OVER the life of a man. A man's life is priceless, except when women are unhappy. Absolutely insane misandry.
/r/MensRights30/04/16 01:49 AM
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Can I get a source on that? Like I understand that there are lunatics out there but man that's really pushing it.
/r/MensRights28/04/16 06:20 PM
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Karen Straughan quoted this and I thought it was fitting. "Society reduces men to human doings."
/r/MensRights31/03/16 01:32 PM
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A well thought out response. I don't doubt that there is validity to the statistics, but to say the statistics are related to an "ethical inferiority" is absolute hogwash.
/r/MensRights21/03/16 01:46 AM
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Show me the statistics first. And furthermore, just because someone is more likely to do something doesn't mean that it is an inherent thing. People from lower socioeconomic classes are more likely to commit crime. Are they "ethically inferior" to higher classes? EDIT: Here's an explanation, just so when you show me the hard statistics. Due to the way families are structured, even today, women are much more likely to be caring for their children while the father is out working. If it is, say, 50…
/r/MensRights20/03/16 11:31 PM
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Probably the misogynistic "women's ethical inferiority to men" bit.
/r/MensRights20/03/16 10:56 PM
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"You're a fucking white man who gets to do whatever he wants to in this space." and immediately after... "So I'm saying no, you do not have permission to walk around videotaping..." Man he really does have the ability to do whatever he wants without any recourse at all.
/r/MensRights19/03/16 10:12 PM
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Do you support the notion that men are the cause of problems in society? Do you support the notion that a patriarchal society is the direct source of harm for a culture? No? This video advocates the exact thing but in the reverse direction. This video doesn't waste any time in saying that liberated women will destroy civilization. My god man. This has nothing to do with Men's Rights. It's absolutely abhorrent to even be publicized on this subreddit.
/r/MensRights14/03/16 03:19 AM
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I doubt anyone takes Buzzfeed that seriously, but Scaachi Koul unfortunately does require a bit of attention. After all, it was Koul who appeared on the CBC panel on Men's Rights where she proceeds to laugh at the list of male issues brought up. Koul who wore a poppy during the panel, which is an expression of empathy for all of the soldiers who have gone and fought, the overwhelming majority of whom were men. Most of who had no choice in going or staying. And she laughs. If I ever met Scaachi K…
/r/MensRights13/03/16 04:06 PM
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Yes, indeed, what about the men and boys? Why is it such a problem to look at the problems for both sexes? This is a discussion about the shit deal Afghan men and boys are getting and the lack of empathy they are receiving due to their sex. You are saying something akin to "but what about the women?" when this discussion is on the disproportionate amount of empathy that women receive over men.
/r/MensRights16/02/16 05:56 AM
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Well men can manspread on busy sidewalks too. We need more female panhandlers.
/r/MensRights08/02/16 08:49 PM
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Um, how is this different than the "imagine a bowl of Skittles" argument?
/r/MensRights06/02/16 07:48 PM
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"There is nothing to gain from falsely accusing a man of rape."
/r/MensRights06/02/16 05:26 AM
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'What does this have to do with men's rights?' If something has nothing to do with men's rights, it has no place on the Men's Rights subreddit. I thought that was basic logic, no?
/r/MensRights05/02/16 08:35 AM
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That blasted patriarchy, hating women so much that when one women claims to feel unsafe they ruin a man's academic situation.
/r/MensRights04/02/16 01:39 PM
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I wish to pose a general thought on the petition that is approaching 5000 signatures. I am against leaving students SOL in any form, regardless of the program. I was going to sign until I actually read what was said. (...)and is a blatant act of inequality and misogyny. Misogyny? Wait a second. I thought gender studies was inclusive to men! Are there men in the program? At least one man? If there is, can you be misogynistic towards a man? You cannot scream misogyny when this is supposed to be a …
/r/MensRights03/02/16 06:36 AM
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I'm not here to debate the validity or merit of this program. I see little real world value to the program, and I think if it is to continue and grow, it needs a major reorganizing. Getting rid of this male hostility is a necessity if proper research and study is to be done in the context of gender. I mean, Dalhousie University staff at their "Symposium on Misogyny" following the dentistry scandal had profs from that department outright saying they always let women speak first, to the extent tha…
/r/MensRights03/02/16 06:22 AM
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The apprehensions over WGST aside, the issue here is not that they're dropping the program, but so far, with the information we have, the university is not letting those 2 or 3 years into their degrees actually get their degree. They aren't phasing out the program, which would be the responsible thing to do, Instead, they are leaving a bunch of students completely shit out of luck. Two, three years down the drain with no minor to show for it. Opinions on Women's/Gender studies aside, that is a p…
/r/MensRights03/02/16 02:29 AM
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When feminists say "we want men to be more emotional" I have to wonder if these feminists have ever asked men what they want. I've said it time and time again that feminists wanting men to be more emotional is to a standard men are not allowed to choose. They get to dictate acceptable levels of emotion. Expectations of stoicism are harsh but I have seen them come from women more than men. Oftentimes, men ARE emotional, but often only to people they can wholeheartedly trust. I'm not saying only w…
/r/MensRights01/02/16 01:16 PM
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Skee! Dear lord I've had so many conversations with you lately.
/r/MensRights31/01/16 11:09 PM
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Her mother told Der Spiegel magazine on Sunday that Lisa was “doing very badly” and was having treatment in a psychiatric ward. While painting this girl more as a psychopath than a victim, this shit would not fly with a man.
/r/MensRights31/01/16 11:00 PM
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The thing about the friend zone is that it is in most ways a strawman in itself. A friendzone applies to so many situations that it's a pejorative and a "brush off the shoulder" reaction. A friendzone to me is when someone has non reciprocated feelings for another, the the other person uses that knowledge to take advantage of the first person. Friendzoning is not rejection, which is how so many people put it. Furthermore, people aren't entitled to remain your friend. So many people, particularly…
/r/MensRights31/01/16 10:56 PM
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No True Scotsman applies to the MRM as well, if we're going to throw it around as a blanket reply to any critique of posts.
/r/MensRights30/01/16 04:47 AM
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Definitely. However, I've seem it much more so framed as Pro-Choice / Anti-Choice EDIT: I'm pro choice and always have been, but the discussion is getting framed with this Newspeak-esque style of dialogue where only one side gets the right to speak freely and the other side just has to sit down and shut up about it.
/r/MensRights28/01/16 11:36 PM
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But what really upsets me is the feeling that radicals of any movement seem to discredit the very legitimate issues championed by the quieter majority. Have you ever thought that the people criticizing feminism might actually have a point somewhere? Are all MRAs just a bunch of Paul Elam clones? Are we all Roosh V? Okay. Look. I can see the positives in female empowerment groups. I am entirely fine with them existing. I am fine with feminism existing because I have seen the positive ways it affe…
/r/MensRights28/01/16 11:31 PM
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I am totally fine with calling "pro-life" people anti abortion. Can't people get past the idea that obviously abortions should be taken seriously but be available? This just feels like Orwellian Newspeak to me. I'm okay with encouraging calling it pro-choice, but banning pro-abortion is just silly.
/r/MensRights28/01/16 11:22 PM
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How. How is pro-abortion an insult. Pro-death I can see, but PRO ABORTION? Are pro-choice people NOT SOMEHOW IN FAVOUR OF ABORTION? When was this decision made? Who passed this?
/r/MensRights28/01/16 11:12 PM
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Holy shit this like pronoun spaghetti.
/r/MensRights28/01/16 04:09 PM
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Manukau District Court prison could have a negative impact on the 23-year-old The judge just described punishment for breaking the law.
/r/MensRights28/01/16 05:50 AM
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I've seen men and women make fun of guys for being emotional. However, aside from poking fun and joking around, I've never in my life seen guys react with such disgust towards a man being emotional when the situation was real and raw and genuinely destructive mentally. Shouts of "pussy" and "loser" are there sure, but when things are serious guys more often than not understand. The expectation of stoicism I've found is from women more so than men. It isn't a coincidence that women want to "talk …
/r/MensRights27/01/16 03:16 PM
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They're helping men "talk about their problems" (because you know, that will actually get something done on paper). Oh! And they want men to be more emotional! (Just don't notice it's to feminism's standards).
/r/MensRights27/01/16 12:10 PM
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Well I don't hold onto my views so tightly. I'm always willing to change if I'm shown to be wrong. As for leaving my comment up, it would be disingenuous to just delete the comment. It would be, in my opinion, rude to the person who helped change my view in the first place.
/r/MensRights25/01/16 11:59 PM
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Certainly. Oh? He mentioned a controversy I willingly started? Better levy criminal accusations against him on national TV.
/r/MensRights25/01/16 08:18 PM
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Fair enough, I didn't catch that. Everyone was so busy trying to shut Milo up that I could barely hear him talking at all.
/r/MensRights25/01/16 07:58 PM
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I just checked the video. Milo gets silenced by Smurthwite and St Louis and then Connie jumps right in. "this is the man who went on twitter recently, and said he wanted somebody assassinated." To which Milo replies with "You're a liar. You lied about Tim Hunt and now you're lying about me."
/r/MensRights25/01/16 07:23 PM
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So you think that men having parts of their genitals cut off before they're even old enough to object is not proof of men having a shit deal? And if religious freedom is your justification, should people be allowed to kill in the name of their deity and not face punishment? I mean, it would be trampling on religious freedom otherwise. If circumcision for non medical purposes was to be allowed, there would have to be a concrete benefit to doing so. However, studies point to circumcision being mor…
/r/MensRights25/01/16 04:46 PM
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Hold on, didn't she say Milo called for an assassination before he brought up tim hunt? Wasn't him mentioning her lies a response to her initial criminal accusation? It doesn't even matter if the tim hunt remarks were true or not. This failure of a reporter lied on her CV to get a cushy job, then got to KEEP HER JOB when they found out. "As a journalist, I don't even have to defend myself."
/r/MensRights25/01/16 01:28 PM
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Not just that, but then they have the gall to wonder why these men are killing themselves! Who is promoting toxic masculinity here? I can tell you that IT'S ISN'T THE MEN It seems I've fallen victim to incomplete quotes. I retract the statement above.
/r/MensRights25/01/16 01:24 PM
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No one gives a shit about victimized men. Except for MRAs, of course.
/r/MensRights22/01/16 04:09 AM
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Are you even talking to me anymore? I have not censored anyone, yet you seem to think so. I guess I missed the part where I can delete comments at whim, and if I deleted that first one why I haven't deleted yours, which are far more inflammatory and rude. Oh you're so "open" that you delete criticism? You're an idiot and a joke. And to continue, your cute little bubble gum ass, You MRAs really are laughable tards :), Well aren't you just the adorable little victim?. The comments I made were on t…
/r/MensRights20/01/16 10:03 PM
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Personal attacks and insults will get you nowhere with me. I appreciate open discussion, but trying to get a rise out of me won't work this way. I cannot tell you why the message was deleted, but the comment was not critical. It was troll baiting in its best form. Furthermore, when I made my comment the parent comment above was still there. I am led to believe that the person who posted deleted their own comment. If it was moderator removed, then that is a problem I want addressed. However, I ha…
/r/MensRights20/01/16 06:17 PM
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In Canada we had this commercial for fitness where a young boy is being chased by two girls. He runs out of breath, and they catch up to him and start kissing him. Slogan comes up saying "stay fit, cause you never know" "Stay fit, cause you'll get sexually assaulted and if you're a boy everyone will just think it's adorable"
/r/MensRights20/01/16 03:11 PM
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I actually had the intention of mentioning Cassie jaye's documentary. I went into my comment with that idea! Crap I must have gotten carried away
/r/MensRights20/01/16 01:19 PM
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Great reply
/r/MensRights20/01/16 01:15 PM
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To be fair, how much backlash from Hollywood specifically did Roman Polanski get after sodomizing that minor? Hollywood is a shady business to work in. If it makes money, they're willing to pull strings for you.
/r/MensRights20/01/16 06:26 AM
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“The standards set for someone convicted of a first-degree felony are very high and can only find (for community control) if the state agrees,” If the state agrees Patriarchy at work folks.
/r/MensRights20/01/16 06:24 AM
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The quickest way to an abolished draft is not to outright get it abolished, but to advocate for a genderless draft. If women are forced to sign up for the draft, then government agencies would be quick to get rid of it. Sending men to war would mean sending women to war, and the State will outright refuse to do that.
/r/MensRights20/01/16 06:21 AM
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Next Week: More news stories. The usual. Next Month: Something absolutely major will drop in Germany. Investigative journalism will uncover some crazy shit that went down that goes against the narrative currently set up. This subreddit will be shut down or quarantined by reddit, after being labelled a hate group by NOW. MRAs will migrate to new forums with softer admins, but a better standard of content than is present here at the moment. More rape/DV shelters that admit men and shelters for men…
/r/MensRights20/01/16 06:10 AM
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Hearing in MSM about this so called "Men's Rights Hate Group". Instead of jumping on the hate bandwagon, I decided to do some digging and look around. Saw no rape jokes. Saw no serious calls to violence. Hardly saw any outright misogyny (lot's of antifeminism but not necessarily woman hating). Saw only attention given to problems men face and tidbits of genuine activism. (The former things definitely happen, but my goodness they are not rampant in the slightest). I guess my reaction was to how I…
/r/MensRights19/01/16 09:32 PM
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I know for one I was part of that group for a very long time. It takes a step to start participating here. It's hard to get rid of that negative stigma around supporting men's issues. I came here as a relatively undecided individual and now I comment regularly.
/r/MensRights19/01/16 06:12 AM
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will censoring all dissenting views This is adorable, because every time a feminist comments here with good intentions, their posts often are the highest rated and spawn actual conversations. What MRAs don't like are blatantly misogynistic posts that do nothing to support the Men's Movement. You know why? Because most MRAs have seen and have faced the cruel reality of unchecked hatred of an entire gender from feminism. Misandry that was left unopposed has corrupted modern feminism to a point of …
/r/MensRights19/01/16 06:10 AM
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It would be fine if they addressed female suicide... if their concern was primarily on helping the majority of men who are at severe risk. This reminds me of the missing and murdered aboriginal people stories going on in Canada atm. Stats are showing that men make up ~70% of missing and murdered Aboriginals, yet in the news you hear NOTHING but focus on the missing and murdered women. And so many people, especially in government and mass media, go around like this is entirely okay, while Aborigi…
/r/MensRights14/01/16 06:53 AM
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Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if German men are fucking FURIOUS over this response. I could see a lot of violent backlash against refugees due to this. But of course, the same German feminists that provided the basis for the hate and vitriol in the first place will completely do a 180 and say "and now the violent white man is being violent against the poor poor refugeees." I would hate to see any violence happen, but honestly with the state of things I wouldn't be shocked if you saw a conseq…
/r/MensRights14/01/16 06:49 AM
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I mean, it seems to be taken seriously so long as white cis men are the perpetrators. If a study came out tomorrow that said out of all male perpetrators, white men were disproportionately committing the crime, I bet HuffPo and Jezebel would be ALL FUCKING OVER THAT. Funny how the only "toxic" racial culture is "white culture" when applied to men.
/r/MensRights14/01/16 06:42 AM
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Imagine going to these editors with a story of a woman being raped, and trying to frame it as "she received a sex act while blacked out." Horrendous right?
/r/MensRights13/01/16 12:31 PM
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Can I get a source on that? That's a frighteningly interesting statistic and I'd love to look into it more, but I'd like to have the foundation first.
/r/MensRights10/01/16 09:52 AM
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I've had a feminist walk out of the room when the conversation topic was rape (you can thank her for that) and I had the gall to mention a false accusation situation and how a man shouldn't be punished for having consensual sex. She walks out of the room, friend casting me dirty looks in tow. I was a middle-of-the-road moderate (before I started being active on this forum) and seeing such a dramatic reaction to male victimization started turning me towards anti-feminism. This was out of a feelin…
/r/MensRights10/01/16 09:45 AM
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This is an interesting video, and while I think Shapiro is in the right I think he definitely could have done this much better. When quoting statistics from the department of labour, you need to be very careful in how you phrase it. He said "women work less hours, take less risky jobs, and have children and take time out from the workforce". He needs to add an "on average" into that sentence, and it's perfect. It becomes the perfect challenge to the "pay gap" idea. If you leave it out, you just …
/r/MensRights10/01/16 08:07 AM
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Late reply, but that sounds more like self deprecation than anything. Like she's making fun of herself. Maybe she's high maintenance and recognises it.
/r/MensRights09/01/16 07:50 AM
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I often get into ramblings because I enjoy them. You don't have to read or reply, but this is almost cathartic for me and it helps coordinate my thoughts and opinions in what I believe is to be a healthy way. There is no TL;DR. What happens when people ending up taking this so far as to say that men are the oppressed gender, and not an oppressed gender. As if women don't have problems. I don't believe feminism can solve things to the extent its mouthpieces claim it can, but that doesn't mean I n…
/r/MensRights09/01/16 07:29 AM
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This is the exact same way feminists justify the backlash against people saying "not all men".
/r/MensRights08/01/16 02:37 PM
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I'm not American, but I'd love to see a female presidential candidate that didn't run on the basis of being a woman.
/r/MensRights08/01/16 02:18 PM
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Can I get a source on the Sharon Stone quote? The only things that come up when you google her is a tumblr archive listing the quote, among others, and stating that it has no source whatsoever. (Nothing to back up their claims, but dishonesty works both ways and it's better to start at the source).
/r/MensRights04/01/16 05:22 AM
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Well feminists want men to be emotional to the standards of feminism. God forbid men show emotions though different outlets than women do. I for one, do not want feminism to dictate how I as a man SHOULD show emotion. I will dictate how I show emotions through my own agency.
/r/MensRights04/01/16 04:59 AM
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Awesome, cheers for that. I'll go check both of them out.
/r/MensRights03/01/16 07:22 PM
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Oh man she almost hit the nail on the head at the end there, but is too ignorant to see her own drivel in front of her. Women and little girls have suffered now and in history MORE than MEN and DIFFERENT ways then MEN. The key word is different. No one in the MRM will deny that women and girls have not suffered in exactly the same ways the men and boys have suffered. However, the severity of suffering is relative to how we choose to perceive the world. In tribal cultures, the severity of sufferi…
/r/MensRights03/01/16 07:21 PM
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Serious note, is there actually a genuine place to discuss theism/atheism on reddit? Somewhere that's detached from the vitriol and superiority that's present in /r/atheism?
/r/MensRights03/01/16 07:11 PM
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Leaving no one behind. Except for men and boys. Honestly this is some totalitarian nonsense. It is frightening that people aren't revolting over this doublethink. How can citizens in UN countries not realize just how disappointing the UN is? Goodness me.
/r/MensRights03/01/16 03:53 AM
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Awesome comment. Saved.
/r/MensRights29/12/15 03:07 PM
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Tell me about it. Went on a camping trip and on the first day my hiking boot exploded. Spent the rest of the trip with a nip at the back of my mind saying "if there wasn't civilization to go back to, you would be very very fucked out here". It's nice to just walk into nature, sit down alone, and take it in. Then I realize how screwed I would be if there was nothing BUT nature around me. I'd die of starvation in days. Fuck. I need to brush up on survival skills.
/r/MensRights29/12/15 07:25 AM
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Wasn't it Milo Yiannopolous who said "if the patriarchy exists, women should be grateful for it", then lists off a portion of the things the so-called patriarchy has done?
/r/MensRights29/12/15 07:23 AM
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Men are at fault for all of toxic masculinity, after all. I mean, men definitely share some of the responsibility, but women enforce "male" gender roles just as strong as men do. Some feminists, even, will fight tooth and nail against female gender roles but still tell men that they must maintain their duties.
/r/MensRights29/12/15 07:21 AM
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I mean, the same thing started with the term "rape culture" did it not? It started as a means to describe a form of rape wherein men were the primary victims (male on male prison rape). The term has since been used to talk about a society in which the rape of women is normalized. If we deem normalized to be a situation in which an act is deemed not important or worthy of concern, then the most "normalized" form of sexual violence in Western Society, possibly every modern society, is female on ma…
/r/MensRights29/12/15 07:17 AM
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Well obviously men aren't capable of feeling emotions sooooo.
/r/MensRights28/12/15 12:03 AM
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That's what I don't get. By denying female perpetrators, you are also preventing some female victims from getting their rightful justice. It's more discrimination and borderline misandry against men than genuine help for women.
/r/MensRights28/12/15 12:02 AM
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instead of pretending they're invincible Like, the concept of toxic masculinity being hyperagency applies here. It's not such a wonderful thing to be posting around.
/r/MensRights25/12/15 09:29 PM
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I've written extensively about the White Feather Campaign, and it goes much much deeper than the surface many people scratch at. At one extreme, you could just call it a recruiting tool. At the other extreme, you could call it a major factor in creating the "misogyny" that is deemed rampant in modern culture by feminists then and today. That is something that no one likes to bring up. Think about it. You're a guy brought up believing that your duty in life is to serve and protect those around yo…
/r/MensRights25/12/15 03:16 AM
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Stop talking to us Once all the verbal abuse goes away, men might stop responding. Funny how when you deem a group the source of society's problems, they're going to talk back to you. Wow! Stop touching us Because it is socially acceptable for men to touch women in public. Wasn't it the guys wearing kilts in bars that were getting fondled by women and told not to try and stop it? How about you stop folding the junk of guys first? Stop raping us Fuck there goes my weekend. I was so totally going …
/r/MensRights25/12/15 03:03 AM
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I was banned from /r/feminism without even posting there. Just woke up one morning and saw my ban message. I was subbed to it, upvoted and downvoted according to whether it was valid/bullshit, but didn't comment. Then I was banned. For posting in /r/mensrights maybe? Who knows.
/r/MensRights24/12/15 04:29 AM
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Hence why many MRAs, myself included, do not publicly state that they are as such. Too many people consider the MRM to be a Hate Movement, and thus even though it's entirely BS, there's no point in making that risk for some people. I talk about Men's Issues among my friends all the time, but I just don't want to slap that title on my person. Yet many people around me are fine calling themselves hardcore feminists, and don't face much blowback for it. So many of them treat me with courtesy and re…
/r/MensRights24/12/15 04:28 AM
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an ongoing pay-gap that sees female professional footballers paid a mere third of their male counterparts. Yeah when you have two leagues that are noticabely different in skill level, you're going to have differences in pay. Holy shit it's like comparing beer league hockey to the NHL. I love watching women's soccer, because I love cheering on Canada and I think our team is fucking awesome (way better than the men here). But honestly, wasn't the American women's national team getting beaten by Hi…
/r/MensRights23/12/15 06:04 PM
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Well to the mass media the accusers in a false rape case are still the victims, even though it is entirely backwards. Can't have the actual perpetrators getting named, now. Gotta protect the women.
/r/MensRights23/12/15 04:44 PM
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This was the logic used during IMD. So many tweets with "here's to all the trans men, gay men, queer men, and feminist men" But you know, not the other men who might have issues.
/r/MensRights23/12/15 02:03 AM
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Um. It's all fine fun to make #killallmen jokes on Twitter, but Cosby's betrayal of our trust eroded any irony with each new iteration. Um. You're taking... one guy. One guy accused my many women of multiple sexual assaults. Whom the majority of men have gone on record to decry and express their disgust, if not a cautious "let's wait for the evidence before jumping to conclusions" You're taking that one instance, and using it to justify MISANDRY. To say that people saying that KILLING ALL MEN IS…
/r/MensRights22/12/15 05:03 PM
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I'm surprised the minor didn't have to do some jail time, or write a handwritten apology to the woman.
/r/MensRights22/12/15 04:58 PM
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Um, yes? There's what, over 300 million people in the States? If we can say that roughly half (probably less but I'm not diving into statistics) support the left, then that's 150 MILLION people. Now I don't know about you, but the people who are making and supporting these regressive claims probably number in the thousands, let's give them a million just to be really fair. 1 million =/= 150 million. We can bump this number up to 10, 25, 50 million, and they will still be a minority among liberal…
/r/MensRights22/12/15 04:58 PM
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To be entirely fair to Carrie I don't think causing a big ruckus was her intention. The way she brought it up was almost in a joking manner, and like usual the media (notably feminist media) spun it into sexist, misogynistic objectification and fat shaming. Her quote felt more joking around to me, like "haha yeah this sucks but we're actors so we do it"
/r/MensRights21/12/15 05:38 PM
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Reminds me of the outrage over Carrie Fisher being "pressured" into losing weight for Star Wars. Male actors are losing and gaining great deals of weight for roles ALL THE TIME. I don't think it's okay to modify one's body so significantly, but one instance is not sexism when the others are just considered par for the course in acting.
/r/MensRights21/12/15 08:59 AM
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Most of these people are regressives, not progressives. That is the opposite of what the left (assuming left denotes liberalism) stands for.
/r/MensRights21/12/15 07:33 AM
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This only goes to show that the unfortunate paradigm that I had hoped wasn't true might be otherwise. Feminists will only take false accusations of rape seriously when they happen to women. If guys could falsely accuse women and be taken seriously by society, it would be a mainstream issue.
/r/MensRights21/12/15 07:30 AM
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I’ll hear a hetero guy talking about how important women’s pleasure is Two things. One, any guy who genuinely enjoys pleasuring a woman during sex IS BEING SELFLESS. HE IS ACTUALLY HOLDING HIS PARTNER'S PLEASURE ABOVE HIS OWN. Someone focusing on the pleasure of another is not intrinsically a bad thing, but there needs to be at least a little give and take. Two, men are being told that they aren't allowed to be "selfish" during sex. How many times does the media make fun of a guy who can't "get …
/r/MensRights21/12/15 07:24 AM
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And if you'd rather use a sexbot instead of porn? Sexist too. Fleshlights are sexist as well. Said the feminist who is totally fine with the copious variety of dildos available.
/r/MensRights21/12/15 07:15 AM
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The first quote would be entirely fine if it was worded like this. Added word in bold. The suspected had previously denounced the deceased for alleged gender violence whereas he denounced her for supposed mental abuse. Not playing sides or jumping to conclusions.
/r/MensRights19/12/15 03:54 PM
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To be entirely fair, gay men would be summarily executed by ISIS. There's probably no chance for them to keep their lives with a "join or die" ultimatum.
/r/MensRights19/12/15 03:51 PM
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And if you pick the wrong side they will kill you. And if you pick the "right side" (right being the one that doesn't immediately get you executed) and somehow avoid losing your head from someone on your "side" while actually in service, you'll be killed in combat. Great life to be sending these men back to. That certainly won't create any more terrorists who openly hate Canada right?
/r/MensRights19/12/15 03:49 PM
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That's true, and how I should have worded it. Good point.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 06:10 PM
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"I would be robbing him of his manhood if I didn't force him to provide." She's just shouting like a maniac through half of it. DO YOU HAVE KIDS DO YOU HAVE KIDS DO YOU HAVE KIDS Steve Harvey definitely supports old school gender roles, which I strongly disagree with. However, his "staying at home is worse than work" definitely could be challenged, but I'm tired and now is not the time. Depends on the job and the home situation. Thank god for the girl in the purple outfit. She saw through the ot…
/r/MensRights15/12/15 07:29 AM
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It would probably go down for men, and up for women. Judges would be too worried to judge as if the defendant is "a man" because their own prejudices would lead to worries that who they're convicting is female.
/r/MensRights13/12/15 10:23 PM
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Careful with that. We still don't know who's truthful in this case yet. If she's in the right, then she has every right to continue in the porn industry. If she's being false in her claims towards Deen, then she deserves some repercussions.
/r/MensRights13/12/15 08:18 AM
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fabulous
/r/MensRights13/12/15 05:24 AM
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Okay I'm annoyed so time for a breakdown of EVERY comment that was made here. "Don't be so bossy" I've received this, and worse, from classmates in the past. I thought about it and indeed I was being an asshole, so I changed how I acted and boom it all stopped. "Your dad will have to chase the boys away when you're older." I've had variants of this, only from my mother. Also, this is a complement on your physical attractiveness. "You look so pretty" "You look so handsome!" "He only picks on you …
/r/MensRights10/12/15 02:48 AM
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And this is about transplants for fucking soldiers. You know, those people who very well might be putting their lives on the line. This person is speaking from a high pedestal of privilege without even recognizing it. Having a penis is for many men a part of being a man. OH GOD FORBID. Honestly soldiers deserve to feel like men, and if having their penis repaired is a means to do so, then let them do it in peace.
/r/MensRights09/12/15 03:35 AM
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But it's free though.
/r/MensRights08/12/15 06:55 AM
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Not sure if you missed the sarcasm in the above comment, but the answer is nothing if you look at rights. Concerning opportunity or "privilege", men and women have different advantages in differing situations.
/r/MensRights08/12/15 06:53 AM
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The funny thing is that 16 is the age that a large number of my peer group (myself included), started to drift towards atheism. It's an age where most people might start to question lots of things they are being told. Saying "this might be a load of tripe" becomes really common then. The problem is that if you read the book it seems alright and seems grounded in reality. There isn't any biblical chaos or burning bushes. It's a lot harder to take it less seriously. Couple that with the fact that …
/r/MensRights08/12/15 06:50 AM
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Nah but clearly he was asking for it. He was inciting them to hit him in the head. He deserved it. Oh wait. EDIT: That is the funniest thing I have read this month. It's so surreal and ironic.
/r/MensRights07/12/15 09:21 PM
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Woah now are we comparing Feminism to ISIS? Jesus fucking Christ how vitriolic can you get. This is THE SAME SHIT that Gamergate was slandered with, and you're just throwing it around. Fucking have some introspection. EDIT: I feel like ranting now. Don't you remember NotAllMen? You know, when MRAs were getting painted with a giant brush and they GOT SLANDERED FOR IT? My god it's almost like it's the exact same thing. It's not okay when they do it, but it's alright when I do it! Or how about YesA…
/r/MensRights07/12/15 09:18 PM
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Just an FYI, this is a book that says girls are taught solely how to please men, and men never have to face that sort of climate. Because boys never have to do anything for female attention right? The entire idea is backwards on both fronts.
/r/MensRights07/12/15 09:16 PM
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And taking things seriously does not mean to believe either way. People should take the James Deen accusations seriously but they don't have to assume they're true or false.
/r/MensRights07/12/15 04:24 AM
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And yet we have people saying that taking false accusations seriously will do the very thing that occurs when people don't take them seriously. "if we talk about false accusations and treat them seriously then actual victims will be afraid to come forward"
/r/MensRights07/12/15 04:23 AM
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Here are the first twenty links, just to show that they are indeed real reports. Going left to right, then descending. 1, 2,3, 4, 5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20.
/r/MensRights06/12/15 10:29 PM
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it simply does not square with research, campus climate surveys, and widespread experiences reported by students. Research or found stats do not have to agree with "experiences reported by students". Furthermore, if experiences have been reported by students, then this statistic would be less skewed, no? I think there definitely is a level of people not reporting when they have been victimized, but to say that schools have to work even harder if they haven't received a single report because ther…
/r/MensRights06/12/15 10:13 PM
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Of course, and crazy is gender neutral. It takes a lot of common sense, and sometimes a little bit of luck.
/r/MensRights05/12/15 06:52 AM
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I think it's just that guys need to use their judgement. It's a matter of thinking "will having sex with this girl cause problems for me down the line?" Trust is something built. That's why I'm personally against hooking up with people you barely know. IMO risk is too high and reward too low.
/r/MensRights05/12/15 05:49 AM
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So to paraphrase, women are all feminists eventually. Karen Straughan and Alison Tieman would like to have a word with you.
/r/MensRights03/12/15 10:40 PM
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I adore the ridiculous Harry Potter stuff that goes on. Really cool stuff.
/r/MensRights02/12/15 01:59 AM
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Normally it's the guy she assaulted who goes to jail for her. You know, all that chivalry and self sacrifice
/r/MensRights01/12/15 03:13 PM
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‘Why are victims getting all the support, when the falsely accused get nothing?’ This is a really sad thing to see. Even someone falsely accused of rape is unable to see that he is the victim in this situation. The monster who falsely accused him is not the victim here, he is. The support SHOULD be for the victim, but for the true victim in a false accusation scenario.
/r/MensRights24/11/15 06:17 PM
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Probably should have put a disclaimer there. It was meant to be taken in jest.
/r/MensRights24/11/15 06:13 PM
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"If it's not pro feminist, it's anti woman."
/r/MensRights24/11/15 06:03 PM
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In education, women remained under-represented in science, technology, engineering and mathematics. And men remain underrepresented in Women's Studies, Nursing, and Sociology. No one bats an eye.
/r/MensRights24/11/15 05:58 PM
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The Men’s Rights Movement at its core seems desperate to focus on the choices women make. For a movement dedicated to protecting and celebrating men, they spend a lot of time explaining why women are not subject to oppression. Can they project even harder? The fundamental theory in feminism is patriarchy? You know, all those choices men make that raise them up to the detriment of women. Feminists spend their entire time saying men are oppressors and women are oppressed. MRAs are just saying, men…
/r/MensRights24/11/15 05:55 PM
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Funny how the strongest "women's rights warriors" end up being some of the most misogynistic people.
/r/MensRights24/11/15 07:14 AM
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Nah everyone knows it's a fact that women have no sexual power in society. That's why Catharine MacKinnon says women can't consent to sex right? Cause men hold all the power in every facet of society? A man can just see a woman, point at her, and boom he's getting laid.
/r/MensRights24/11/15 07:10 AM
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There are probably mothers who are still together with their partners reading this and losing their shit. These women aren't genuine mothers. They are selfish bigots that happen to have children.
/r/MensRights23/11/15 03:44 PM
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Wasn't there a case a month ago where a mother murdered her husband in cold blood while he held their child in his arms, then was eased away from prison because her imprisonment would "hurt the childrens' well being"?
/r/MensRights23/11/15 03:02 PM
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And yet, feminist extremists will say that any female mras are "just in it for the male attention"
/r/MensRights23/11/15 03:00 PM
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What better way to break the untrue but constantly pushed stereotype that MHRAs are misogynists than to openly support women? Two wrongs don't make a right.
/r/MensRights18/11/15 02:52 AM
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why does a woman like yourself, spend so much time on these forums disagreeing with men's rights posters, So apparently, disagreement and being a woman are problems. Would this comment have been okay if the poster was a man? Oh please. People have different points of view. Let's not attack each other with bitter comments and personal attacks. Fucking hell, dude. Does everyone have to toe the party line in order to be an MRA? Are we really going to go down that road?
/r/MensRights17/11/15 02:02 AM
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I agree with most your points, except for the one about mgtow. I think it's fair to say there are selfish people in the mgtow movement, but the movement itself is not inherently selfish. It's more a reaction to the undervaluing of men when it comes to relationships. If people are saying that women are "selfish in nature", that is just flat out sexist. Like karen Straughan said in feminism and the disposable male, " women are conditioned to take the seat in the lifeboat", but that doesn't make th…
/r/MensRights16/11/15 02:16 PM
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To be fair, pro-feminism / anti-mra videos should be blocked as per the rules OP posted.
/r/MensRights16/11/15 01:25 PM
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I'm interested to see just how effective Cassie Jaye's documentary will be at breaking the MHRM away from the mainstream bashing.
/r/MensRights15/11/15 09:14 PM
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My goodness. The point of an essay is to either argue why you agree or disagree. Holy shit this is an affront to intelligent discussion. It's a theme that helps building the profile of who actually gets to enter good public universities, a future thinker I can see they are grooming people for higher education. You can only think one way. No wonder people are giving up on universities. I hate Poe's Law as much as the next person, but this is a Nazi style tactic.
/r/MensRights15/11/15 09:00 PM
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Feminism has always been this way. It has always been a man hating, pro women only pseudo hate group. I disagree with this. While Feminism has had its rough patches (much more so today), and has theory not entirely lining up with reality, it is in the end a female empowerment group. Is that a bad thing? This is what the MHRM essentially is, but for men. Feminism focuses (or at least tries to) on women's issues, and thus the MHRM tries its best to do the same. Labeling Feminism a man hating group…
/r/MensRights15/11/15 08:51 PM
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Seems like many ideologies eventually succumb to unchecked hubris and hatred. What worries me is that the MHRM will go the same way. Hopefully the people here will learn from the mistakes of previous movements and move on when things go particularly sour. Right now we have a community of fact-checkers and source compilers, but that might change. Let's hope the MHRM never becomes the beast the mainstream says it is.
/r/MensRights15/11/15 08:29 PM
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I don't know about that, but I can provide some quotes from and about Emmeline Pankhurst. "Mrs. Pankhurst toured the country, making recruiting speeches. Her supporters handed the white feather to every young man they encountered wearing civilian dress, and bobbed up at Hyde Park meetings with placards: "Intern Them All." -Sylvia Pankhurst, The Suffragette Movement "The least that men can do is that every man of fighting age should prepare himself to redeem his word to women..." "Emmeline Pankhu…
/r/MensRights15/11/15 08:27 PM
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"Potential rapists stem night" <sup>/s</sup>
/r/MensRights13/11/15 12:22 PM
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A Tory MP has finally been granted a debate in parliament on International Men’s Day after he sparked a major row over the issue two weeks ago. What? He didn't "spark a major row". That responsibility can be on the shoulders of Jess Phillips. He was proposing that they talk about men's issues and was guffawed at. He didn't start any controversy. I absolutely hate the way news sources weasel around the truth to push the sort of message they want.
/r/MensRights11/11/15 04:47 PM
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You would think that domestic violence would be defined as "violence among domestic partners or in a domestic setting". What they've defined as DV should be termed "Prolonged Domestic Violence" Why conflate the issue?
/r/MensRights11/11/15 04:42 PM
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Honestly. I'm a crazy peaceful, very emotional (except for when I'm debating), quite effeminate guy. I've never felt unsafe in the MHRM. Do I feel like I've been downvoted unfairly sometimes here? Definitely, but I don't take that as an attack on myself. When all is said and done, I feel safe here. Aside from the reactionaries (every group has them unfortunately), the vast majority of people here are really friendly, and willing to call you out on your bullshit. (I love that the most). And that …
/r/MensRights11/11/15 06:18 AM
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Over here at Mancheeze, we feel totally comfortable saying all men are misogynists to one degree or another. These loser men spend hours on the internet searching for articles on feminism and women in order to find the ones that offend their feelz. This quote speaks for itself.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 08:11 PM
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From what I know you have every right to get into the building. The problem is, the moment you come into contact with any of these people you'll get hit with charges of battery.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 07:55 PM
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It's amazing that such an obvious statement such as that even deserves an article. Yet, we live in a climate that is okay with brushing off male victims of domestic violence. When we say "but what about the men who are suffering?" they respond with "well we're not talking about women." When DV statistics show a near equal number of victims between men and women (40% in GB but it changes from country to country), focusing on half under the guise of equality is despicable.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 05:05 PM
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Yeah looks like the light from the white box overpowered the text.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 04:39 PM
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What exactly can be done to assuage their fears. In reality, a guarantee within the constitution that could state something along the lines of: "We promise to uphold the fundamentals of peaceful debate and discussion within our society." It was already guaranteed beforehand, but adding it would eliminate this sort of backlash.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 04:36 PM
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So apparently, a safe space to discuss men's issues must be carefully monitored to make sure it doesn't turn violent. I have been on this subreddit (probably the largest MHRM forum on the internet) for well over a year now. I have not seen one serious call to violence. Furthermore, I have seen lots of attention given to trying to debate in good faith with those who oppose the MHRM, and a "brush off the shoulder" mentality when those people are too far removed to listen. If the MHRM is supposedly…
/r/MensRights10/11/15 04:34 PM
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Perhaps it's because the vast majority of people just get sick of gender politics and would just rather go to work? I dunno. Just trying to throw another possible point in the mix.
/r/MensRights07/11/15 06:43 AM
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Case in point: A large group of the people on Honey Badger Radio
/r/MensRights07/11/15 06:33 AM
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Yes, that is the case as far as I know. What I was getting at is that situations with a female perpetrator/male victim are classified as a specific thing, and that is what I was trying to discuss. You know what, I think I was wrong. I was leaving out data but not under any means was I trying to have malicious or hidden intentions in doing so. This is from a place of ignorance on my part (as in I didn't look into the research myself), not a place of fallacious intent. I understand what kehlder wa…
/r/MensRights07/11/15 02:16 AM
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I'm not going address the ad hominem attack. Whether or not you want to believe it, feminism claims to stand for all women. Therefore, insulting feminism is seen by feminists to be an insult against all women. I understand there's a difference, but caustic baseless statements against feminism will be perceived as misogynistic.
/r/MensRights06/11/15 04:42 PM
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In the nisvs, male rape victims are classified under made to penetrate. I can see where the confusion lies but you are slandering me by saying I fabricated a statistic. Sure semantics can tangle things but male "rape" victims in the nisvs are males made to penetrate.
/r/MensRights06/11/15 03:46 PM
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Feminism has it's problems much like the MHRM, but to say it is 100% wrong is ridiculous. This kind of reactionary, vitriolic speech is why people think mras are misogynists.
/r/MensRights06/11/15 03:40 PM
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Discussing statistics is a road people shouldnt take? I didn't have the statistics on hand, so instead of saying "here they are" and leaving it at that I left some notice and changed my comment upon receiving the proper stats. I fail to see how this is some major problem. I said "take them with a grain of salt" because I was almost certain of what I was saying but not sure enough to claim it as fact. The only thing I deserve a slap on the wrist for is not getting the stats myself.
/r/MensRights06/11/15 01:33 PM
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Just a personal anecdote, but I've had a feminist say to a friend of mine that "if you haven't been falsely accused of rape, why do you care so much about it?" I was almost willing to send this logic back at the person but I decided I'd rather not kick open a hornet nest. I guess that means I don't have to give a fuck about rape then, since I've never been raped? Can't say I'm a rape apologist cause by your standards, I have no reason to care. And you know, only rape victims care about stopping …
/r/MensRights06/11/15 06:39 AM
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The patriarchy actively prevents men from talking about their issues. The system designed to benefit men actively prevents the improvement of the lives of men. THE SYSTEM DESIGNED TO BENEFIT MEN DOESN'T BENEFIT MEN Instead, the system actively benefits women/feminist groups. This isn't a bad thing. The bad thing is that they are preventing men/MHRA groups.
/r/MensRights06/11/15 04:18 AM
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So many people fail to realize such a simple thing. It is completely okay to have movements tailored towards the improvement of rights for a specific gender. Feminism, Men's Rights, whatever. Having a movement focus on one is NOT a bad thing. Instead, the issue lies in a situation where one movement claims to speak for both (without doing anything for the other side) and then claiming that the very existence of the MHRM is an attack on the group they are trying to help. That is bigotry, discrimi…
/r/MensRights06/11/15 04:16 AM
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Wasn't it Hannah Wallen who contacted the CDC about the Mary Koss nonsense a while back and found out that out of all the rape cases where a man was a victim, 45% of such had female perpetrators? 79% reported a female perpetrator. I might be completely mis-remembering that, so take it with a grain of salt. EDIT: Tamen_ replied with the proper stats from NISVS
/r/MensRights06/11/15 04:10 AM
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No no, it'll be bomb threats. The MHRM is a hate movement after all.
/r/MensRights05/11/15 07:51 AM
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Sadly enough, the only way men's issues will be taken seriously in the mainstream media will be if it is a woman promoting them. It's much harder to call a woman a misogynist.
/r/MensRights05/11/15 07:45 AM
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I mean, this guy who wrote the article thinks we should be having a laugh about a public figure stating "Every man, deep down, knows he's a worthless piece of shit." It's just so hilarious right?
/r/MensRights03/11/15 02:31 AM
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Asserting that every slight against anyone who is male is immediately misandry and should be rooted out I agree that many people here are reactionary, but calling cases of genuine misandry as such is bringing light to the fact that it IS misandry. Most "slights" that I've seen deemed misandry are situations like courts not giving a fuck about male victims of rape. Not including or even considering men of color, as if they are unable to be discriminated against or as if all discrimination against…
/r/MensRights03/11/15 01:42 AM
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This highly readable memoir – which inspired the new film Suffragette – is a corrective to a lot of the theoretical huffing and puffing that smothers so much of modern debate about women’s rights. I don't know what world Chris Moss lives in, but any discussion in public schools surrounding suffragettes paints them in extremely positive lights. I don't know if that's just a Canadian thing, but I did not learn until recently that the suffragettes descended into violence. Huffing and puffing? You m…
/r/MensRights03/11/15 01:19 AM
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Like almost all feminist books, these belong on the bonfire. I think we need to be careful here. That's some very extremist shit to say right there. Even the most bigoted literature doesn't deserve to be burned. Let people read it and form their own opinions. Of course, if you were being figurative (which I'm almost certain you were), then go ahead and disregard my point. I'll retract my own statement as well.
/r/MensRights03/11/15 01:12 AM
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Well, this IS an example of rape culture in action. Just not the kind of rape culture people want to admit exists.
/r/MensRights31/10/15 04:17 PM
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So apparently people are voting wrong if they don't give women 50% of the seats in parliament. The fact that she's there shows that women CAN be there, but people vote based on merit (hopefully), not genitals. Furthermore, it's very telling that in a room dominated by men, someone suggesting discussing men's issues is getting successfully shot down by the single woman in the room.
/r/MensRights31/10/15 06:00 AM
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Honestly it's why Karen Straughan is one of the most popular MHRAs on YouTube. She's ridiculously well spoken and makes great points, but you can be almost guaranteed that less people would take her seriously if she was a guy. This isn't to discredit Karen at all. More just to point out a harsh reality.
/r/MensRights30/10/15 02:03 PM
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I'm holding out that it paints the MRM fairly. I hope the doc doesn't whitewash the movement, because that just opens the door for mainstream media to say "hey guess what it's totally not true here are all these counter arguments because the doc didn't present both sides" I know she's talking to feminists as well, but I genuinely hope it doesn't come off as an antifeminist piece. That would destroy the credibility of the film, regardless of the merit it has. There's enough antifeminism in HBR, a…
/r/MensRights29/10/15 05:20 AM
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Well Rousey refuses to be a victim based on her sex. She's empowering herself and essentially asking other women to stand up do the same. How awesome is that? Seriously.
/r/MensRights29/10/15 05:13 AM
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She talks like a true egalitarian. Props to her.
/r/MensRights29/10/15 05:11 AM
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To be fair, the campaign did have a poster showing two homosexual men in a "don't be that guy situation". However, it consistently painted men as the abusers, and almost always had a woman as the victim. I hope we can one day stop assuming that sexual violence is a one way street between the sexes. Thinking like that only inflames the problem. It does nothing to stop it.
/r/MensRights29/10/15 05:10 AM
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I would be very interested in reading up on this too. Sounds like common sense, but some genuine academic backing would be nice to peer into.
/r/MensRights29/10/15 04:53 AM
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Right now the men's rights subreddit is probably the best forum for discussing men's issues on the internet. The overwhelming majority of people here are quite reasonable. (Enough, at least, to question any of the bullshit posted here).
/r/MensRights25/10/15 03:23 PM
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They missed the part where he was asked about it. What if he denied the question at all? They'd shout him down for that too. You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. It's like, if you want someone you dislike to come under fire, just ask them their opinions on anything feminist-related. Doesn't matter the answer they give, SOMEONE will attack them for it.
/r/MensRights23/10/15 06:58 PM
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We find the one-sided scale more appropriate for our purposes. Our purposes? The fact that they considered using the PROPER GRAPH and chose against it to make the biased graph seem like equality is giving extreme favour to women is downright ludicrous. The graph itself doesn't make me angry. What makes me angry is the deliberate alteration of statistics to make it seem like sexism is equality. That is unacceptable. The UN should be representing the citizens of its member countries equally. Since…
/r/MensRights23/10/15 06:54 PM
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Rodger claimed he would “punish” young women for rejecting him and never giving him a chance. This is often the leading feminist argument towards toxic masculinity and they bring up Elliot Rodger a lot as some kind of demented "standard" for guys. Here's the thing. Elliot Rodger was an asshole who definitely needed help, and it's hard to argue that he wasn't misogynistic. What he did was selfish and despicable, and no one can fight that. But when he says rejecting or not giving him a chance, no …
/r/MensRights23/10/15 03:31 AM
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I don't think that MRAs will argue that men's rights is about equality for women too. I think most of them have been told that stance enough already and aren't dense enough to repeat that argument back. The issue lies in that feminists have often gone on that because feminism exists, the MRM shouldn't because feminism is doing tons for men (which certainly is not true). I doubt many MRAs will actually say that feminism shouldn't exist because the MRM does work for both.
/r/MensRights22/10/15 05:54 PM
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It's interesting to see that a lot of the most misogynistic things come directly from the extremely pro-women groups.
/r/MensRights22/10/15 05:51 PM
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I agree with you. I'd assume it's directed more at the extremists who genuinely believe that feminism = egalitarianism and thus is equally about men and women, but will still turn around and say criticism is misogyny. For the record, I am not opposed to feminism at all. A women's rights movement is perfectly fine in my book. But you have feminists saying the MRM shouldn't exist because they do, while doing absolutely nothing for men.
/r/MensRights22/10/15 02:54 AM
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I think what OP was trying to say was that the only way questioning feminism could be deemed misogynistic is if feminism is gynocentric. If feminism is about men and women, then questioning feminism sholud be deemed by this person to be misogyny AND misandry, but obviously that isn't the case. Thus, the intention of saying "feminism only about women = misogyny" makes sense but is very poorly worded.
/r/MensRights21/10/15 07:14 PM
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So many strong notions that the source automatically devalues the material. Should a questionable site make one wary? Duh, but that automatically won't count it out. Hell. Fucking Jezebel could put out good material.
/r/MensRights16/10/15 10:31 PM
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She shouldn't have to face charges. Should she lose her job and have trouble finding abother one for her views? Absolutely. A situation occured at Dalhousie University in Canada in the previous year, where a group of men created a private facebook group dubbed a "Gentleman's Club". After it came to the public light that a shit ton of misogynistic things were being said (and don't get me wrong here, what was said was very sexist and hateful), people lost their collective shit. There were entire l…
/r/MensRights06/10/15 10:15 PM
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The sad reality is they were probably scared to speak against her. ADDENDUM: Almost all student unions in today's universities are absolute messes.
/r/MensRights06/10/15 10:02 PM
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The modern man never lets other people know when his confidence has sunk. He acts as if everything is going swimmingly until it is. Isn't telling men that they shouldn't talk about their problems a direct contributor to suicide? The modern man lies on the side of the bed closer to the door. If an intruder gets in, he will try to fight him off, so that his wife has a chance to get away. Male Privilege
/r/MensRights05/10/15 10:30 PM
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This reasoning is so beyond me. I'm certainly not a uber-masculine guy. I'm more emotional than most of my friends. But I still call myself a man, because I know I am one. Just because I am not the typical masculine archetype doesn't mean I need to vilify it. Let people be how they want to be.
/r/MensRights05/10/15 10:19 PM
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Props to the article for explicitly stating that a study of only 1 campus is not enough to declare what the norm is. Honestly, the problem with statistics surrounding this issue is that of not representing the reality of the situation. Regardless, this is certainly an interesting statistic that can be used in isolation.
/r/MensRights05/10/15 10:05 PM
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Reality is those failure to launch boys would still be called rapists (rightfully so) if the genders were reversed. EDIT: removed some words
/r/MensRights05/10/15 05:12 PM
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I probably should make it clear that I completely oppose what extreme feminists say in this situation. But yeah, this notion could be applied to practically any minority situation. Easy way to spread hate.
/r/MensRights05/10/15 02:02 PM
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Feminism doesn't automatically mean man hating. That's just like saying MRAs automatically hate women.
/r/MensRights05/10/15 01:34 PM
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Agreed. As with many crimes, intention is extremely important.
/r/MensRights05/10/15 01:10 PM
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An awesome extension of my comment. Thanks for going more in depth!
/r/MensRights05/10/15 01:06 PM
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I'm gonna have to say that in context, the "she just hates men" is that she is/was using feminism to hide her misandry, not that she "only" hates men.
/r/MensRights05/10/15 01:01 PM
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Do you have a link to that statistic? I'd be really interested in finding out more.
/r/MensRights05/10/15 12:23 PM
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These numbers aren't intended to actually be the right numbers. It's just showing that if you use the statistics that extreme feminists like to use in an attempt to deny that false accusations are a problem, then you are still left with a huge number of false accusations.
/r/MensRights05/10/15 11:19 AM
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The problem is that radicals eat it up and spread it without thinking, and the more moderate feminists are mostly too fucking scared to argue with them. I've had a close friend of mine who identifies as feminist say "Oh her? Yeah... I think she just hates men."
/r/MensRights05/10/15 05:00 AM
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I agree completely. It's just that such a thing is disregarded among radicals because the idea that women might lie is beyond them.
/r/MensRights05/10/15 04:57 AM
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Well duh. The truth is false accusation stats vary A TON and no one can truly say exactly what the percentage is. However, let's just use the 2% (extreme feminist favourite) statistic and couple it with the other touted remark (the Mary Koss statistic) that claims 1 in 5 women are raped. Let's assume both of these are true. There were 158.6 million women in the USA in 2009. If the 1 in 5 statistic is true, that means 31 720 000 women will be raped/have been raped. Even if the false accusation st…
/r/MensRights05/10/15 04:53 AM
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No they won't. Extreme feminists will say (as I have seen firsthand) that "since false rape accusations make up 2% of all rape cases, they should be given no consideration".
/r/MensRights05/10/15 03:58 AM
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Certainly it makes things difficult to take things seriously. Make sure when you're arguing the point to say on average men sacrifice more time for work, ect. Fight statistics with statistics, not generalizations.
/r/MensRights02/10/15 11:19 PM
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This would be an excellent point if the wage gap was actually a result of discrimination. Surely discrimination in the workplace based on gender exists, but the 20ish cent wage gap is misinterpreted. That being instead of the average earnings of all men compared to the average earnings of all women, it is interpreted to be that women earn 74 cents for every man's dollar FOR THE SAME WORK. You're paid the same for the same work. If you can show that you're being paid less for equal work, then you…
/r/MensRights02/10/15 04:40 PM
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Some choice quotes for those who won't bother to read the article. Personally, I might choose a different battle to risk my job over, like: Are the skirt-wearing non-male people in your office being promoted and paid equally, while elsewhere in our shining democracy women earn 74 cents for every dollar earned by men? Putting words in the person who posed the question's mouth. (EDIT: The person did mention protesting, but I really don't think the protesting he had in mind was picket signs and boy…
/r/MensRights02/10/15 04:34 AM
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By all means. It's just a conflict of opinions, I guess.
/r/MensRights02/10/15 03:05 AM
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I probably shouldn't have said it was your title. Instead I should have referred to it as the title instead, so the title is detached from the poster. I didn't mean for that to come off as a personal insult. I just think that in a subreddit like this, titles should be as objective as possible, and we can leave the subjectivity for the comments.
/r/MensRights02/10/15 02:36 AM
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The last part of your title is completely unnecessary and inflammatory. It is much better to present the findings as you're presenting news, and let the opinions be discussed in the comments. Nevertheless, when I realized how the majority of missing and murdered aboriginal Canadians were men, I felt sick to my stomach. Now let's think about the statistics and the reason why CBC only focuses on the "women and girls" narrative. According to the source Imthere posted, 71 percent of all murdered abo…
/r/MensRights01/10/15 04:14 PM
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The article doesn't even coincide properly with the title here. "People go on and on about the objectification of women, and rightly so. But, what about the objectification of men? He's just saying that men are ALSO objectified, but no one likes to talk about it. The title completely misquoted him.
/r/MensRights01/10/15 03:14 PM
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Wow. You'd think a chain as big as Tim's would have different pants for boys and girls.
/r/MensRights26/09/15 03:57 PM
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I'm quite surprised that your workplace provided pants in the first place. I always thought it typical for them to only provide the upper half of the uniform. But yeah, unisex pants definitely feel like a dumb idea.
/r/MensRights26/09/15 01:54 PM
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Just an anecdote from a place I've worked at. When working, the boys must have their shirts tucked in. If they are in a position of authority, they must wear a red tie brought up to the collar. I agree that this is how it should be, as it looks professional. The girls, however, can leave their shirts untucked. Instead of a tie brought to the collar, they can wear it loose, or wear a scarf instead. There are women's shirts and men's shirts, so I can't see why there would be trouble for a girl to …
/r/MensRights26/09/15 04:05 AM
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This is a really interesting topic for me, one that's put forth a plethora of opinions. Would heterosexual men genuinely desire no more female companionship if sex robots were an easily accessible thing? I'm not entirely sure. After all, being intimate (something which I know I personally desire as a guy) is probably impossible with a robot. What it will probably do is cripple women's sexual advantages over men. Suddenly the standards most men will have when it comes to picking a partner WILL be…
/r/MensRights19/09/15 12:06 AM
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Which is a shame, because most of the feminists I've talked to have said they cannot stand the vocal minority that has made feminism into such a negative thing. The problem is no one is willing to hold these people accountable for their actions. If everyone raised an uproar (moreover, if FEMINISTS raised an uproar) over Jessica Valenti saying "so what if we hate men?" then everyone could get on with fighting for genuine issues. A close friend of mine said a while ago that "feminists should be by…
/r/MensRights18/09/15 09:27 PM
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Every movement has its problem people, some of whom end up in positions where they can say quite derogatory things. While most here will probably disagree with me, I personally think Paul Elam would be looked at as a "problem person" from outside of the MRM. He's reactionary and quite radical, even though many of his viewpoints are satirical in nature and taken out of context. The problem is that these radicals have, sometimes indirectly, tainted the views of movements so bad to the point where …
/r/MensRights18/09/15 07:50 PM
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I agree with you completely. We're implying that on someone's 18th birthday, they suddenly get the mental ability to consent. I personally think the law shouldn't be so black and white, and instead be much more nuanced. There are cases where statutory rape laws can be used justly, as certain instances might mean consent is given under stress or fear, but these do not make up 100% of all situations.
/r/MensRights18/09/15 06:56 PM
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but the laws we have now need to be applied equally. That's what most people here are probably arguing. These posts are probably meant to be critical of the double standard concerning this issue. I would assume most people here probably want the laws lessened for both incidents (FtM or MtF). It would be a good day when something like this pops up and it is known that a man would receive the exact same consequences if the shoe was on the other foot.
/r/MensRights17/09/15 04:41 PM
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After her release, Telford must also register as a sex offender. At the very least she's gonna have to do this.
/r/MensRights17/09/15 04:33 PM
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It should certainly be a "acknowledge women have agency" stance rather than a "deny men their agency" stance.
/r/MensRights16/09/15 02:44 AM
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You're right, they probably shouldn't. But, if these magazines appeal to different demographics, trying to start an uproar over a magazine generally appealing to a male majority being placed on a "male" shelf is just childish. I love musicals, and if I saw a magazine about broadway in the women's section that I was interested in, I wouldn't make a fuss. I would walk over and buy the fucking magazine.
/r/MensRights08/09/15 08:20 PM
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I think there's a difference between talking about historical injustices in a more isolated context than using them to justify injustice in the present.
/r/MensRights08/09/15 08:02 PM
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Here's an archive link, so there's no chance of them making ad revenue. https://archive.is/UwF6d
/r/MensRights05/09/15 04:09 PM
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I wonder if there would be an earnings gap that favours women in part time jobs, seeing as women hold the majority of them (at least in Canada). http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/labor12-eng.htm
/r/MensRights29/08/15 09:04 PM
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