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I talk to my mom about changes in her life, changes in my life, future plans. I don't think I've ever had a conversation with her on "how to keep a man" or anything similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/19 09:31 PM
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In most meaningful ways, I reject it. I don't have any good reason to think that it's a widespread thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 08:23 PM
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Sure, but you also aren't going to convince them with your own assessment. I'm not expecting to convince anyone. They'd only believe me if what I said confirmed their world view. There's really nothing I could reply with that would change their mind. So I'm just replying with truth. You know the story - watch what they do, not what they say. There's a fatal issue with that on PPD. You don't know me and can't observe how I act. You can either listen to what I say, or not. There's no means of watc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 11:35 PM
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Oh, I know they believe that. But I'm not exactly going to trust a bunch of strangers on the internet over my own experiences. That would just be stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 10:35 PM
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Poorer than her We make the same, so that's a wash. Short No, he's a tall guy. Virgin Yes. Or at least he was. Small dick No, he's pretty respectable down there. Submissive Yeah, he's pretty submissive. Too fat or too skinny He's skinny fat, so take that as you will. In terms of your theory, no. I don't grade from in his masculinity. Red pill ideas utterly fail when it comes to our relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 08:35 PM
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Honestly, it's like you all are living in another dimension. I have seen very little discussed here applicable to my marriage or experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 03:48 PM
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It's pretty big factor. You'd have to be pretty butt ugly for facial aesthetics to matter more than weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 09:35 PM
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Never dated/slept with or even know a player. It's scummy if they aren't up front with women. Otherwise I don't care. I actually don't care too strongly about then one way or another. They don't come up very often, so I never think about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 09:33 PM
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Married woman here. We have a pre-nup which forfeits alimony, and I have no intention to have kids. I don't really care if some men don't want to get married. It's a personal decision and they shouldn't have to something they don't want. My husband wanted to. I make the same as him, and I don't plan on having kids (certainly not sacrificing my career for any) so I don't foresee any of that being an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 06:51 AM
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I don't know, I married a guy that fits into the first list. Don't actually know many guys who for into list two. Not really my crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 08:45 PM
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You laid out a really specific mindset. I can't disagree with a woman who hates masculinity, marriage, and commitment probably isn't a good candidate for a LTR with a man. But I will argue that didn't accurately reflect the mindset. I support people having the freedom to have casual sex. I consider myself in favor of sexual liberation. But I disagree with a lot of the points you made.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 10:37 PM
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I suppose you mean some kind of romantic or sexual competition. I might compete with other women along with men in a legitimate competition. But aside from that, no. I don't want to "win over" a guy. If a guy wants to date me and I like him, I will. If a guy wants to date another women, he is free to do so. I'm married and I trust my husband not to sleep with other women. That's where the focus is. My husband choose to marry me and be monogamous to me. I expect him to rebuke any woman interested…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 10:30 PM
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Another way to put it is that this information is easily found outside of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 10:02 PM
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Submission mostly means doing house chores. Bullshit. That is not what TRP means when they talk about submission. They mean letting the man make decisions and take charge. Also, of course doing chores is nice. That's what chores are, things that need to be done but you don't want to do. So yeah, he would be happy if I did them all. I'd be happy if he did them all. We both realize the fair compromise is for him to do half and me to do half. Men don't like soft spoken women? Do you think most men …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 10:01 PM
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wondered why the bold fun loud popular frat-type guys had access all the other nerdy or smart or artsy women just the same as Stacy. I have never hooked up with such a guy in any capacity, and neither have my friends. I can assure you, such guys do not have access to all the nerdy/smart/artsy women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 09:49 PM
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Nah, I'd argue that the same things a man has to employ in order to bang Stacy are the same that he has to employ to bang Jane or even Becky, to different degrees, depending on where Billy starts from. The skinny, sorority party chick is a rather distinct type. The approach to her is rather different from the approach to other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 09:13 PM
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Thing is that TRP is wrong about most of it's ideas. And what it isn't wrong about is obvious and coming knowledge. So I feel pretty safe in ignoring TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 09:12 PM
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No shit, people like things that they like. That doesn't say anything. But what TRP says that men like (submission, soft spoken, innocent) isn't true for a lot of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 09:11 PM
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Luckily TRP doesn't speak for most men. You can absolutely find a great guy while ignoring TRP. I am happily married and my husband isn't RP in the slightest. The advice they give would wreck our marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 08:42 PM
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Is this a subtle nod that TRP is in fact about attracting a minority group of women, and isn't applicable to the majority of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/19 08:38 PM
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I don't know, I've been annoyed at my husband for not cleaning up after himself while still being happy in bed. They are just two unrelated issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 08:07 PM
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Cryptic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 07:50 PM
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Women wanted independence. Men did not want to fill the role left by women as they entered the work force. Men did not want to pick up the slack at home the more women got paid at work. My husband is happy with the arrangement. Pretty sure lots of guys are cool with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 07:23 PM
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I would also be commiting to the guy, and so naturally I want to be sure he's a good one. I wouldn't want to rush into a committed because I want to spend time to make sure he's good. As a result commitment is a gradual thing. First we move in together, then we got pets together, bought property together, then got married. This spanned five years.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 06:43 PM
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It's, well, committed. Meaning that he shows intent to stay for the indefinite future. Usually he takes actions to reflect this. Could be marriage, or moving in together. Taking out a loan together or adopting a dog together. Pretty much anything that would make it harder to split.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 06:15 PM
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We are people. Some of us are stupid, some are brilliant. Some are shitty, some are by good. There's really no need to put us in a special category.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 07:36 PM
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Maybe she doesn't care about being provided for?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 05:16 PM
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And a non zero amount of people think Australia isn't real. Let's not focus on the extreme minorities here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 07:54 PM
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Men and Women of PPD, would you be interested in utilizing this option? Would you want to have one or two babies naturally and then use the gestators to finish off your family with less stress? Why or why not? State your sex when answering please Yes and no. If I was so inclined to have a biological baby, I would prefer to gestate it outside of myself. But no, because I don't want a baby. I would be put off from the pig thing but that's because I don't believe in harming pigs. Regardless of your…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 07:31 PM
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It’s the same logic though. If nobody including people of their own race wanted anyone to do with dating that race out of disgust, that wouldn’t be bad? If no one wanted to be a plumber out if disgust, that would be bad too. But there's nothing wrong about me not wanting to be a plumber. I don't think that's a good way to determine ethics because so much of society requires diversity in choices. If just one person chooses not to date fat people, that's fine. If just one person chooses not to hir…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 07:22 PM
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I have no issue with you feeling disgust. I would only take issue with when and how you share those feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 06:41 PM
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Racism is different in that the acts of racism are bad. You not dating certain people isn't bad. It's fine you never date fat chicks. It's not fine if you refuse to hire someone because they are black.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 06:40 PM
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Yeah, it's not a nice thing to do. Just because you feel something doesn't mean you should announce it to the world
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 06:36 PM
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I'm saying that vocalizing your distaste for certain people using the word "disgust" is bad. Your feelings of disgust and your aversion to dating them are fine. It's the use of the word in particular that is the problem. Example: Your views on women make you disgusting to me. Versus Your views on women make me not want to date you. Same concept, same feelings, same aversion. One of them is a lot less insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 06:34 PM
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The word "disgusting" in and of itself is insulting. Even if there rest of your language in neutral, the use of that word makes your statement insulting. Don't say that fat women disgust you. Say that you prefer to date lean women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 06:21 PM
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It's hurtful to call people disgusting. You can saying something that people will read and feel about themselves for. It's less hurtful to say that you prefer something, implying that they aren't actually disgusting. Insulting people who haven't done anything wrong is something of a social taboo. It's okay to be repulsed by a person, but don't say unnecessarily hurtful things to them. It's the insults, not the dating preferences, that is unethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 06:08 PM
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I don't care too much about them one way or another. Do they set women back? I don't think that anyone should be compelled to live a certain way just to be a good example of their demographic. It's their body, their life. If they are happy with the arrangements and find a guy who is also happy, who am I to say they are living their life wrong. Do you think they devalue relationships by putting a price tag on it? Their relationship doesn't impact mine. Their relationship has a price tag on it, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 06:00 PM
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They are rather similar ideas, but justice is lawful while revenge is chaotic. That is, justice is through the laws and court system. But revenge is outside of the courts. Not totally sure what any of this has to do with gender though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 10:26 PM
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you expect your husband to trust you yet you still signed an agreement that provides for his protection in the event you cheat... ok... cognitive dissonance much? I don't think either of us are going to cheat, but it's within the realm of possibility that we divorce for other reasons. Infidelity isn't the only cause of divorce. For example, I don't want kids but he's torn on them. Maybe ten years down the line he'll want kids or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 12:22 AM
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Yes, I can expect him to trust me. And I do. And he does. He's actually considering moving out of state temporarily for a job and he's not worried about me cheating, nor am I worried about him cheating. It's not naive if it's earned trust. We've been together for over five years and never had an issue. It's not naive at this point. Of course we can still have attractions to other people. But we won't act on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 09:28 PM
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So your solution is just to let 15 to 30% of men keep being victims of paternity fraud and do nothing about it? One, where in the hell did you get that number from? Two, I was just talking about my relationship. I trust my husband not to harm me and I won't harm him. Bad shit happens to other people, but I'm order for a relationship to work we need mutual trust. In that case we should also legalize rape. That is an absolute non sequitur. Why should we care if you get pregnant with a rapist's bab…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 09:22 PM
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Counter question; what is all your friends started playing a new video game together, would you do it too? I don't know about you, but I might. Engaging in culture is fun. We celebrate holidays and birthdays and do running gags with friends. There's nothing inherently wrong or bad with engaging in culture. You can argue that some things are risky, and are bad because they are risky. But one, my husband doesn't have much of a risk in marrying me and two, he decided to do it. Hell, he even wanted …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 09:17 PM
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So I was thinking, if I get married and have 2.5 kids (the societal "standard" ), my wife gets to satisfy her biological imperative, meanwhile I don't. That's a bad deal, and I really hate being on the wrong side of one. Makes me think it's not worth marrying a woman and staying faithful If you personally don't want to get married and have kids, don't. Marriage and kids don't always go together, and some men want one or both. So I don't see the issue. If that isn't appealing to you, just don't d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 08:09 PM
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I don't really have a firm definition. It's not something that I think particularly a lot about. It's just whatever traits society associates with men. In our society is big, burly men with deep voices that kill deer and never cry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 06:29 AM
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Yes, I 100% trust my husband not to cheat on me. Why is that such a crazy thought?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 04:52 AM
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I think it's a fine reason. There's nothing wrong with wanting to participate in your culture. I do lot of illogical shit because it's part of my culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 04:48 AM
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Isn't a paternity test a proof of her love to him? I mean if it proves he's the real father that means she truly loves him. It also proves that he doesn't trust her. That's my main complaint. Or perhaps your real motive is protecting the whores who do it from getting found out? No. It's not. That's just a swing and a miss.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 04:46 AM
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and many husbands trust their wives to honor "til death do us part" try reconciling that to the fact that 80%+ divorces are initiated by women Not all trust is well placed. He could also do me wrong but we have come to trust each other. It's a vital part of our relationship. I wouldn't want to stay with a guy who didn't trust me. It just wouldn't be a good relationship. you are attempting to have your cake and eat it too. How is that so? We love each other and chose to marry each other. I wanted…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 04:44 AM
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Just asked my husband. He said taxes and why not. I didn't marry my husband because of trust. I married him because I wanted us to be a family and that's how it's done in our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/19 03:49 AM
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What social expectations are not being met by not signing the marriage certificate? The expectation is actually being legally married. Most people don't just so the ceremony. Getting legally hitched is part of the package to most people. What principles are you violating or not meeting by not signing the marriage certificate? The principle of actually getting legally joined. Becoming a family unit in the eyes of the government. I know that the social expectation to raise my own children isn't be…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/19 02:27 AM
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What you're talking about is the difference between wearing a seatbelt when a friend is driving vs not wanting to ride with your friend at all because their driving scares you. Car accidents happen. I don't trust any human to never get in a car accident. Even if they are perfect drivers, others drivers cause accidents. And humans aren't perfect drivers. So no, I don't trust my friends to never get in a car accident. I do, however, trust my husband never to cheat. I expect the same level of trust…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/19 02:20 AM
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10% is not extremely unlikely. Where are you getting this 10% number from? That's like saying you wouldn't spend $70 on a protective car seat for your child because you don't think you'll ever be involved in an accident. It would be stupid to not recognize the real risk of car accidents. Same does not apply to having babies switched at birth. One of those things is much, much less likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/19 12:42 AM
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Do you understand what I was saying in my comment? Because that doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/19 12:40 AM
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I expect my husband to trust me not to cheat. Some women cheat, but he needs to trust that I am not one of those women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 08:40 PM
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Social expectations, principles. Again, marriage isn't just about trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 07:42 PM
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But none of those are paternity test. For all those tests, you would just test the baby's DNA, not compare it to yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 07:40 PM
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Yeah, $70 for a test for something that is extremely unlikely and poses no medical concern is too much for me. Obviously this doesn't apply to other things, like toys, food, and actually important medical testing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 07:34 PM
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You're going to need to break things down a bit more because I am not following you. Women are usually the ones with trust issues though. That's just projection 101. Regardless of which gender had what issue more often, how is this relevant? Unless you are going through life assuming that every woman you talk to has trust issues. We are talking about hypothetical first dates, where your would be with some particular woman and trying to assess her flaws and good traits. Some women have trust issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 07:32 PM
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There's more to the desire to marry than just trust though. If a guy says that he'll want a paternity test, it pretty much just means he won't trust you not to cuck him. But if a woman says that she wants marriage it could be because of social expectations or romantic views or whatever reason. Lots of other possibilities than "I don't trust you".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 07:18 PM
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If a guy I was casually dating said that, it would be a massive red flag. Sure, after a few dates there isn't that trust. But I would expect if our relationship got to the point of having babies, he would trust me. It's pretty much screaming that you have trust issues, and will never fully trust me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 07:07 PM
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Okay, that would be more baffling than offending. That is such a rare event, why waste the $70?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 07:04 PM
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And how exactly does one do that? It is exactly saying "I don't trust you not to cuck me".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 06:08 PM
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Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 03:26 AM
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Do you think a fat chick that prefers buff men isn't hypocritical?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 02:39 AM
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And you really think that's comparable?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 01:32 AM
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Not all straight people are both promiscuous and expect an inexperienced partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 01:21 AM
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Then your getting into hypocrisy territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 01:11 AM
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My question is why? Why do you care so much? I don't. you, personally, don't care, why do you think other women feel so passionately about this? In my experience, it's because the guy is being an asshole about it. I'd rather date someone with a similar history as myself Versus Ew, sluts are gross. Why would anyone want to date one? One is going to offend more people then the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 10:55 PM
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Didn't mean to come off as hostile. Just that, for my experiences, you aren't even talking the same language.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 03:12 AM
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Dude, the fuck are you talking about. I relate to virtually no part of your description. Generally the people out of my pay grade were too old to be of romantic interest. I'm married now so that I don't have any outside romantic interests or the like. Before my husband, I guess my high school sweetheart was wealthy. Or at least his family was. I didn't really care though, it didn't impact things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/18 04:55 PM
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Might compromise your thought on repressing personal urges, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 04:11 PM
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Child free is often because of negative feelings towards kids. Many child free women have no urge to be a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 04:02 PM
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It's like a draft, but for women. We don't want to dig through baby shit with a screaming child. Of course not, that's shit work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 03:44 AM
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Run! Run as fast as you can
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 07:12 PM
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Nah, pretty sure I would have remembered it if it was that recent. Besides, I have been on that much in the past few months.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 10:49 PM
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Mmm, doesn't seem familiar. About how long ago was the thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 10:42 PM
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That would probably yield a blog post referencing some paper, requiring a hunt through poorly cited blogs and articles, which is distinctly not fun. So if you're not going to cite, I guess I'll just half ass my analysis. So it doesn't actually mean much in and of itself if most women marry men with more money because men make more money in general. So even if it was completely irrelevant how much money the guy made, women would still tend to marry up. I suspect that couples tend to be matched. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 09:57 PM
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The stat that women generally marry men who make at least as much money as they do or higher is pretty compelling. Citation? Not that I don't believe it, but I think there are other factors to consider and would like the paper directly to dive into then.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 09:23 PM
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Women are looking for dudes who are at the top of the pecking order, who will be their providers and who are also handsome. When women look for prospective boyfriends all they care about is: Money, Looks and Status. Nah. You don't actually defend your view at all so I'm not sure what to say to challenge it. What what challenge it? Examples from my life? Self reported statistics? Statistics on who marries who?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 07:32 PM
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Got my first real job out of grad school, so huzzah. I'm liking it this far but I've just been reading research papers these last two days. I do not know enough about vesicle formation as I would like to atm. But hey, at least it's the end of the work week. I will be hitting the bottle tonight, that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 10:32 PM
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Oh shit, I just started it last weekend. I know it doesn't have a happy ending, but I am at least hoping for a semi good ending...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 10:28 PM
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I saw that on the Flix. I assume it is good? I absolutely adore my pitbull (NAPALT) and love to hear about good doggos.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 10:26 PM
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I've found PPD to be a bit too far down the rabbit hole for my recent liking. As in, in seems like the posts start by assuming RP principles. I've been feeling either disengaged or frustrated with the posts, which isn't good. But I don't know of any other place to argue about things I'm interested in. I need some place with just the right amount of crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 10:24 PM
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I'm pretty sure my mom is lactose intolerant because she loves dairy and has diarrhea half the time. Or maybe just IBS. I don't know. But once, when I was maybe 13, we were diving back from a movie. She needed to use the toilet but we were driving across empty desert and she wanted a proper toilet. So she decided to wait. I remember looking over at her as her face goes pale and she whispers "it's happening". She told me in a serious voice, barely holding back panic, to reach into the back seat a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 10:17 PM
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I always understood that's looks mattered, even before I was old enough to even think of dating. Come on, you have to be pretty damn oblivious to not realize that. So that's never been a question. Rather, the question is if it's worth it. Spending that extra time in the morning getting dolled up, spending the time and money on nice clothes, coordinating outfits that are uncomfortable to wear, biting my tongue and not getting to enjoy the dirty and rough activities I liked. For a boy? Nah. I didn…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 09:48 PM
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That really seems to be just how people use it on here. Virtually everywhere else it simply means a woman who has a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 08:14 PM
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I'm very lucky - I'm usually working with N. meningitidis, which, while it needs attention, is a lot more short-term rewarding! That's good, I can't imagine waiting weeks to harvest/use cells. I guess you have to have several cultures going at a time. I mostly work with eukaryotes but they are cancerous and just need a few days to get to full confluency. So yay cancer I guess. Fingers crossed, greater general public awareness of antibiotic resistance will help to bring attention/funding before t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 07:46 PM
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We're looking at the mechanism by which tuberculosis has developed resistance to rifamycin antibiotics, Neat. Well, not neat, bad, but interesting work. I bet it sucks to be working with such slow growing cells though. That and potential different forms of resistance. Outside of an epidemic, the 'drug resistance' isn't the hugest problem, yet I feel like the society isn't taking drug resistance as seriously as we should. Yeah, it's not a problem right now but we shouldn't wait until we have anot…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 07:22 PM
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I'm taking advantage of my youth to help develop solutions to antibiotic resistance Hey, a number of my lab mates in grad school were working on that. Or rather, working on AST. I can respect if you don't want to go into detail, but what are you doing if you don't mind me asking? Trying to culture hard to grow cells to find new antibiotics, or am I way off?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 06:14 PM
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Pretty appropriate IMO, since she seems to think she is just wasting her time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 06:10 PM
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That doesn't really mean anything. That's a really specific situation; freezing eggs at 38 or for longer than ten years to try to get pregnant when you are almost 50. You can postpone kids until your 30's and still be fine, or adopt later on. Or maybe you don't even want kids. It's ludicrous to say 'looks like I can't get pregnant at 50 years old, better forgo all career plans and marry some rich dude while I'm young'.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 06:05 PM
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And why do you get to decide that building a career is 'wasting her prime'? I'm guessing that she is working so hard because she wants the future she is working towards, and following your advice would be wasting her prime.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 05:40 PM
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divorce rates Probably because unilateral divorce wasn't allowed 50 years ago. But divorce rates have been dropping steadily since the 80's. single motherhood Probably due to the much weaker stigma against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 05:36 PM
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I'm coming from my education in chemistry which heavily uses both labs and lectures. The labs we get are certainly project based but are very carefully chosen to match exactly what the lecture is about and are very leading. As in we have exact step by step instructions and explanation of what we should see and why. It's definitely useful for learning techniques but I don't think it necessarily helped with critical thought. I think some of the more useful things in my education were showing real …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 05:15 PM
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Are women OK with dating men with worse careers than them? Women are the hypergamous ones. I'd prefer someone with a similar career to mine. Ideally if men and women have similar careers on average, everyone can pair up with their equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 06:27 AM
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I think it is part of how people learn. Some people are very rigid with the information they take in. They take in a lot of information and are able to repeat it well on examines, but their understanding isn't flexible enough to relate it to unideal, real world issues. This is, in my experience, only a generalization. I've also seen people with a mind of a steel trap that takes in everything the professor says and understands perfectly how to use it. And I can't say I've seen a clear gender slan…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 06:24 AM
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As long as you realize that this give and take isn't all women give, men take. I can value my husband's happiness while expect he value mine. And if it happiness is contradictory (e.g., he wants a submissive wife and I want equal say) then we shouldn't be together. Pretty much I'm just sneering at the RP mentality that women should be submissive wives because it's a very self centered, entitled stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 04:19 AM
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That's not what the word model means in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 01:22 AM
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I legitimately don't understand your point. Companies hire models to show off their products, a company can hire whoever they want, but it's generally accepted attractive people sell products better. It's not just attraction to the opposite sex though, a lot of it plays to the same sex. Hence makeup and dresses focus on female models. From the consumer side, having obese people dolled up and shown in ads makes people see obesity as normal and not bad. So there can be obese models, models are onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 12:23 AM
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Question: How isn't that pushing standards? Did you misread my comment? It is pushing standards, and I said as much. Still, I resent the fact that women get to go out and define what a "real man" They don't get to define it. They get to voice their opinion, but we're also get to ignore they're opinion, which is what we should do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 12:15 AM
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But that still isn't forcing anything in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 12:10 AM
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Really? You actually hear that line often? Said in all seriousness, without having to actively seek out the type of people who would say it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 11:14 PM
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No, you are making some logical assumptions. A low birth rate can be a symptom of an unhappy population. But not all low birth rates are from an unhappy society (ergo not all happy populations have high birth rates). Our birth rate dropped when we introduced birth control, but that wasn't because of unhappiness. they're cratering through the floor I'm most familiar with US stats, but no, they're not. 1.75 births predicted per women isn't that low. It's been overall pretty steady since the introd…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 10:45 PM
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Care to make a point?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 10:22 PM
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Eh, maybe it's is more location based. My man slut friend only really became a full slut after he moved to Boston. Before that is way just a few new lays a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 09:52 PM
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I think it's why we have so many far left feminists and SJWs... I feel like a large portion of women just want to feel "safe" in society My issue here is that most women are not the feminist/SJW types. And even the ones that identify as that aren't necessarily the kind you are imagining. Ultimately, those women do not speak it represent women as a whole. I don't actually know if any woman that is that engaged in feminist issues. Hell, I only know one woman who identifies as a feminist and she's …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 09:49 PM
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I guess that's why they call it the free world.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 09:42 PM
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I was actually more thinking in terms of general happiness, not modern luxuries. But yeah, it generally just for the society and maybe neighboring ones. An unhappy society cause restlessness political upheaval, social witch hunting, low birth rates, and wars. A happy populace isn't so prone to those issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 09:41 PM
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Saying that real men go for curves is pushing standards, but how often do your actually get that line out in the wild?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 09:36 PM
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Yeah, me and the rest of society talked it through and we decided we just didn't want to go that route anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 09:35 PM
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Better idea, get a SO that values my happiness too. And if you don't value my happiness than we won't date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 09:34 PM
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Urban Southwest. I'm pretty happy with my husband, pretty sure he's happy with me. My best friend has had a couple of LTRs and is still in one, she seems happy with it all. My husband's man slut friend seems pretty happy with his life. Maybe we have different expectations. When I say happy, I don't mean over the moon blissful. I just mean they are more or less happy, not particularly unhappy. My man slut friend had an unrequited love, my female friend went through a breakup a year ago. Sometimes…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 09:32 PM
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Are you suggesting slavery? Well, collectively we decided slavery is bad and to imprison people who violate another's autonomy so it really doesn't matter how you feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 09:24 PM
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Happy people make for a happy world. Babies are behind born and people are staying together so I don't see any issue
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 09:05 PM
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We can, but why should we? For the benefit of someone else? People will usually only change if it’s for their own benefit, not someone else’s. As a woman, this the exact line I want reds to hear. Why should I be a submissive housewife if it makes you happy but me miserable?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 08:56 PM
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Mmmm, no. I don't think that normalizing obesity is good, but hiring fat models isn't forcing jack shit on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 08:54 PM
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Both men and women that I know seen generally pretty happy with their love lives. RP preaches doom and gloom but honestly I don't see it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/18 08:51 PM
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Pardon my forwardness, but that's a whole lot it words to say nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 04:05 PM
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there are profound biological differences between the genders; that, generally speaking, there is a male nature and female nature that are distinct. See, that would be a pretty big problem with me. First of all, virtually no RPer actually comes to their worldview with objective and observations. Usually it seems to be more about anger and dehumanizing/vilifying women then any persuit of truth. Secondly, and more importantly, I want my SO to judge my nature based on my actions, but his idea if wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 02:38 AM
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Largely yeah. He might be epileptic which isn't great but in the grand scheme of things it's not the worst. That was absolutely the most terrifying time of my life though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 07:58 PM
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Those are two reasons, yes. My husband had a seizure a few months ago. At the time I didn't know what was happening. I remember holding his convulsing body, staring into his empty eyes and thinking this is it, he's dying. He ended up being fine, and a few days later, pretty much as soon as he was capable, we had sex. It was one of the most emotional sessions we ever had. I love him and I don't know what I would have done if he die. And all those emotions were front and center. So absolutely yes,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 07:03 PM
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Can you elaborate? I don't have a clear idea what you are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/18 12:33 AM
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Annoying? Nah, not if you are polite and not obviously interrupting me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 05:14 AM
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A woman can still build a career she loves and still have a work like balance. Just like how a man can have a career and a life outside his career as well. It's a strawman to portray career women as workaholics.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 10:41 PM
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Know what's really gross? Mixing the two .
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 10:26 PM
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Yes it's true. The man's life was put on hold and his reputation irreparably damaged. Was he actually arrested? And if so was he detained for a prolonged time? If so, I'll grant you that his life was on hold and that would majorly suck. But if he wasn't detained for a prolonged time then he would be able to carry on with his life, and it wouldn't be on hold. About his reputation, as I said, I don't think it's as severe had many MRAs like to say. It's not like he gets a Scarlet letter. Unless any…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 09:27 PM
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The case was ultimately dropped and while she saw zero repercussions, the man’s life was irreparably harmed. I didn't read the article, so maybe I'm missing details. But it's this true? I kinda doubt it. Legally, let's assume that neither will face repercussions. The guy is free and clear legally, while the women could face criminal charges of perjury and sued for defamation. But it's entirely possible that none of that happens. So legally, neither would face any repercussions. Socially, both mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 08:28 PM
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You know, I've never had to worry about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 05:22 AM
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Well, I can see this isn't going anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 11:34 PM
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I didn't say anything except that he didn't settle. You really need to cut back on assumptions. The world can work however the hell you want it to if you make enough assumptions. Really, if you can turn the statement "we are a good fit for each other" into "I slutted it up in the past and think I'm valuable as a wife because I'm an educated career woman even though I'm really a bad deal" how can you even think your views are based in reality? I had a boyfriend that I dated and slept with for two…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 11:21 PM
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So why do you think that I have my youth to other men or that he is getting a bad deal? Seems like an awful lot of assumptions you are making there. Is this how you judge most relationships? By inserting whatever assumptions you want into it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 11:09 PM
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Care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 11:02 PM
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I wouldn't keep the kid regardless of the father's wants. Kids suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 08:35 PM
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I wanted to ask a more diverse-of-opinion and view community how accurate they feel this is. Completely wrong. Like, urine soaked hippie in tin foil hat muttering to himself level of wrong. I'm sure they're are some women (and men) like that, but they are not at all the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 04:55 PM
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Yeah, I think I'm a pretty damn good fit for him. I don't think he settled for me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 04:53 PM
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Weird, maybe. But also seemingly not uncommon. They have a very strong presence online, are all over the place in anime conventions, and had a presence/clique in my high school. Weird as they may be, they aren't that rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 01:25 AM
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Hahaha, oh God no. No no no. Tell that to the hoards of yaoi fan girls I went to high school with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 01:01 AM
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I'm an introvert, I don't have friends and I don't do chit chat. I don't do social interactions as OP described. That is normal and I feel fine without them. I feel overwhelmed and over stimulated in social situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/18 12:56 AM
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I think the better way to divide people on this topic is extroverts and introverts. I'm a woman and I'm quite happy going without social interaction. But I'm also an introvert. There are more traits in the world than gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 10:29 PM
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No, they don't. Show me examples from in this thread. The closest I saw is from Orange_Paisley who cheated because her SO cheated first.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 04:22 PM
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No body in this thread is saying anything remotely like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/18 06:44 PM
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Then what do you think I should base my judgements on?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 12:15 AM
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Any reference to the Mgtwo subreddit is invalid. It does not in any way represent the beliefs of MGTOW in general. I'm going to have to stop you right there. I know of the sub and the website. Those are the two major forums I've seen for MGTOW thought. I do not know of any larger forum for their ideas. I realize not everyone that identifies as MGTOW is going to agree with those communities. But when judging MGTOW in general, I'm going to use the largest communities of them. That's pretty fair in…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 12:04 AM
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Or are you one of those who believes that any opinion about women and/or people that I disagree with is necessarily based in hate? Yeah, due to being a female I have very little ability in the way of objective thinking. You implying this fact has made me feel raped. I have filed a police report, expect to be arrested and convicted shortly. Thank you for your time. Can you distqinuish between opininions given about humans or women that you disagree with and opinions about humans or women that are…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 11:32 PM
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Because it's obvious by how they talk about women. You know the line "watch what they do, not what they say". It kinda applies here. If you regularly go on hateful rants about women, you probably hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 06:06 PM
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MGTOWs pretty much have the same beliefs about women as TRP, they just choose not to play instead. So all my complaints about RP theory being factually incorrect and hateful towards women* applies to them too. Yes, yes, I know. "But we don't hate women, we just understand then for what they are". No, you hate women. It's pretty clear by how you talk about them. You back tracking and trying to say otherwise when called on it isn't going to convince me otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 05:50 PM
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Good job everyone. I think we have resolved this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 03:56 PM
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Science describes the world, it does not make judgement calls. A Y chromosome will cause you to develop masculine traits while two X chromosomes will cause you to develop feminine traits. That's what biology says. Psychology says that some people with a Y chromosome want to be seen as female, and vice versa. But it's up to society to decide how to view and categorize these people. I cannot see why people think a trans man is the same as any other man. They are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 02:34 AM
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Then what would make it masculine or feminine it is the same for both genders? Over eating is a toxic trait but it's not toxic masculinity or femininity because it's a pressure that both genders experience equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:42 AM
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I don't think there are large, innate pychological differences between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:28 AM
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Different person here, but I think we have similar views of toxic gender roles. Toxic masculinity (as it makes sense to me) is one, something that society expects men to do and two, detrimental to oneself or others. So in order for something to be toxic femininity it needs to be something women are expected to do, not just a shitty trait only open to women or more common in women. So hypergamy isn't toxic femininity because women are expected to branch swing. Nor is this example with dates becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 12:02 AM
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But never mind that, let’s judge an entire group of people by the best it has to offer Well, TRP judges an entire group of people based on the worst case examples. And hell, many of those are embellished or made up. At least I'm real.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 11:55 PM
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Ah, then I might have been a confrontational bitch there. Sorry about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 11:54 PM
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Really not sure who exactly this question is directed to, but they are both things.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 11:52 PM
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I've heard that line before. I don't fully agree with it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 11:51 PM
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Not really, no. I think you can move into the nebulous zone that is being trans which has become a gender in and of itself. But you can't go from a woman to a man or vice verse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 11:51 PM
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People keep asking this question, but this is the only appropriate answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 10:06 PM
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A man has a Y chromosome and a dick. There is no mental or psychological requirement. There are traits that you might think are important to being an adult male, but people who pack them are still men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 10:03 PM
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Being incapable of managing finances or holding a job isn't a good sign in a guy. I wouldn't date a guy who can't hold onto money and it has nothing to do with wanting a man's money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 06:39 PM
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We split so the bills evenly, so any extra money he makes is entirely his and doesn't impact my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 06:36 PM
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Taking guesses about my husband? With the idea being that I'm such an awesome woman he needs to be tall and wealthy to keep me? Or are you trying to say I'm hypergamous as any other woman? Help me out here, your comment didn't give me much to go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 06:36 PM
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Can you provide arguments that they do? Burden of proof is on you. Besides, I've never seen women put much focus on anything related to security, nor be upset by a lack of it while single.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 05:42 PM
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Exceptions exist. These exceptions might be the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 05:33 PM
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Yeah, statistically speaking you are probably not going to die from gun violence. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 05:29 PM
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I don't know exactly what this security is suppose to be, but I'm pretty sure I don't care about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 05:27 PM
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They couldn't wait long enough for our answers, see comments under the automod.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 05:21 PM
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Same can be said for men too. They don't really offer me anything aside from sex (which I'm happy with masturbation), romance, and kids (which I don't even want) that cannot be gotten with friends and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 05:16 PM
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So I know this is going to come up ASAP (it already has), but just because benefits can be gotten elsewhere doesn't mean they are not benefits. This isn't a list to convince you to date anyone. I honestly could not care less if you are willing to date women or not. Really, no fucks. So if you think you get all these benefits without a woman, great. Go have fun. But here is a list of benefits that I provide to my husband. Money. I pay for half the bills, which means that most of his major expense…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 05:14 PM
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Gun deaths are about a magnitude higher. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 04:37 PM
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Example? I didn't get any such grants at my university.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 04:34 PM
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living a longer That really only comes into play at the final years. It's not like that statistic is making anyone's life better or easier. And it's not that much longer, 4 years. lower-stress Citation? healthier Men choose to not get to the doctor. That's all on them. subsidized Uh huh. And where can I sign up for these subsidies? What program is handing them out for being women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:07 PM
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Well, it's true, isn't it? A man isn't going to die in an office job. They choose to work dangerous jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:02 PM
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That is an amazingly small amount of people. The vast majority of men will not die on the job. Really, why would you point to an issue that affects such a small amount of men? Playing the odds, you aren't going to die on the job, nor is anyone you know. That really isn't some luxury that only women get. The real killers in the US so not discriminate do much by sex. Cancer has equal rates between men and women, and strokes only sightly more common in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:01 PM
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You clearly have no idea what it is like to be a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 08:50 PM
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This is an entirely valid fear. Well, no. It's not a valid response to the fear. Clinics will tell you if they accept your insurance and what might or might not be covered. And you can call your insurance provider to confirm as well. It's not at all justified to never see a doctor. My gf texted me from her urgent care they wanted her to go to the ED. I asked what her vital signs were including temp after Tylenol and OMG she had to go, but then got a 3000$ bill after insurance My husband got a $1…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 08:25 PM
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It would be nice if he was more proactive in bed, but I'm use to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 05:19 PM
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not addressing health concerns (physical & mental) That too. He's not worried about being less manly or anything. He's actually paranoid that insurance won't cover it and he gets a huge bill. But he had a seizure a few months ago that resulted in an ambulance ride to the ER. I think that whole event helped him appreciate doctors. Also his insurance covered a lot of it, even the out of network ambulance ride.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 04:02 PM
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These first two apply to my first boyfriend. My complaints with my first boyfriend and my husband are very different with pretty much no overlap. Being appearance focused. He wanted me to dress well and wear makeup and be a perfect American girlfriend (dude was a Korean immigrant). I didn't care about appearances, wanted to dress in a T shirt and ratty jeans and ignore the rest of the world. Drama hungry. He made up stories to stir up shit and get me riled up. Just for the lulz. Neither of thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 03:57 PM
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seems some progressive coastal state women generally want to discuss every word or task and ultimately turn it into a power play. Completely agree. Oh wait, I thought we were talking about red pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 09:08 PM
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You can't win if you don't play.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 09:07 PM
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I have to agree. I started living with my now husband in my early 20's. I love him and all, but I kinda wish I had more time as an independent adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 03:04 AM
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I wouldn't want to have casual sex with anyone, but I'm not put off by virgins at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 11:47 PM
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Some people might equate the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 11:31 PM
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I'd suggest watching a Let's Play. It's more of an interactive movie than an actual game.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 11:13 PM
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I've seen this come up in the context of arousal/orgasm during forceful rape. Not sure if that was OP's intention though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 11:12 PM
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They said that a sex bot brothel would be no more gross than a regular brothel. In response, you asked So are you equating regular women who have had multiple partners to prostitutes then? Which seemed pretty disjointed as the comment did not reference such 'regular women'.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 10:46 PM
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That game made me be nicer to Alexa.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 08:36 PM
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The person you replied to did, and then you said regular women who have had multiple partners
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 08:34 PM
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regular brothel regular women who have had multiple partners How do you make this connection?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 06:54 PM
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It sounds like that scene from Detroit Become Human. I don't really care, I picture it with less sadness than a human brothel.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 06:53 PM
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I don't think the equivalent of an alcoholic is a daily smoker. If someone can't keep their life together due to drinking, the equivalent smoker also can't keep their life together.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 03:23 PM
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I offered to pay for my half on the first date with my husband. He's wasn't offended, but very thrown off. I think he took it as a way of me saying I'm not romantically interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 03:19 PM
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...because men are so egotistical and rich they can afford to drop money to save a little bit of their fragile masculinity, right? Some are, yes. Funny how this works out to be a boon for women, while simultaneously blaming the guy for it... I'm not saying that the guy should pay. I'm saying that you should use more direct communication to address this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 03:15 PM
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No, of course that's not the typical pothead. But then again, the typical drinker isn't in AA. I'm trying to control for substance used.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 03:12 PM
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I have been there so many times buddy. Fight the good fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 05:53 AM
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Absolutely, alcoholics suck. But chronic pot heads also aren't fun. For one thing, they tend to be unemployed. If the drug tests aren't going to get you, going into work high will. That with lack of motivation can really cripple your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 05:40 AM
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I always let the check sit there for a few seconds to see if she'll reach, then I'll insist, and if she insists, then I'll let her pay her half, if not, I treat it as a last date. Seems a little bit covert, don't you think? Particularly considering that some men take it as an insult if the woman pays. Why not make it more clear you hope that she'll pay her way? If they dislike it, you wouldn't have wanted to go on another date. And if they are cool with it you haven't mistakeningly rejected her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 05:34 AM
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And you put even more effort into it than be. I had it on my mom's ranch, we got flowers from a grocery store the night before, the guests took pictures, and I got my wedding dress at Good Will for $10. But I will admit that family was a grade A pain in the ass. I think I put in as much effort fighting them back as you did with planning yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 04:05 AM
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I think I could answer better if I knew what exactly you were getting at. Legitimate addiction is a pretty big issue. If they end up sacrificing relationships and career to fuel their addiction, then that's a whole lot of baggage that I don't want. Doesn't really matter what the vice is. Pot is illegal and he might end up in jail, which would suck. But alcohol does more physical damage, so he might end up dead. I guess that ultimately I would choose the drinker because I at least enjoy drinking,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 03:59 AM
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So without actually sharing the studies, I can't say much. Buuuut.... I recall a different study where masturbating women's brain patterns were scanned and at least half the women who reported having an orgasm actually did not. And they kept insisting they did even after being shown the scan results. That seems like a pretty ludicrous conclusion. "Oh, they must have been lying". I think a better conclusion would be that they have a different type of orgasm. And I have to wonder from what. They a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/18 08:56 PM
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Unfortunately your vagina prevents you from understanding the married red pill philosophy. Bitch please. My vagina holds the secrets to the universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 06:50 PM
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I mean like most of us here? What's even the point in playing such an obnoxious role if in the end it doesn't reflect who you are / what you think. Rhetorical question. I come here to argue with people. That is literally the only reason I ever come on here. Of course I'm more argumentative when I'm here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 06:49 PM
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Have you tried asking him if he'd fuck you if you ASKED him to fuck you while you were crying? Can't say that particular question ever came up. But I know his libido is pretty sensitive to mood. I'll ask him that directly after work. Have you tried asking him if sex would comfort him if he's sad? Or is he too cucked to tell you the truth That's not very falsifiable. So you lie to him about how much it repulses you, cool. He got married to someone who didn't even lay all her cards on the table. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 06:47 PM
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I wasn't refering to empathy toward people on PPD The issue here is that you really have no idea how I act outside of PPD. You are ultimately basing this on the assumption that I treat act similarly on and off PPD. Also my comment wasn't directed at you, I couldn't care less about what you think since you're clearly a delusional and bitter cunt. You said "OP's husband". It is obviously directed at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 04:48 PM
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He wouldn't get turned off from those things, Pretty sure he would. when men are fearful or sad, sex comforts them and makes them feel loved That's up to him to decide, not you. so a woman who claims to love them not wanting sex with them due to those things makes them feel unloved. It's not exactly like I respond to his emotions by telling him "I am so turned off right now". That's not gonna last. Eventually turn-offs will overwhelm limerence and turn-ons, Turn offs are short lived. That's the …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 04:46 PM
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no
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 04:34 PM
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A healthy, real, relationship involves more than sex, regardless of id you are married or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 04:33 PM
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It's not out of the question, but I wouldn't exactly opt for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 04:32 PM
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These women have little to no empathy toward men I have pretty little empathy towards anyone on here. I don't know any of you. And I'm not a very emphatic person to start with. So yeah. yet they expect it from them I expect no empathy from anyone on here. Why would I? Men should be strong, caring, comprehensive, generous and attractive Eh? I give no fucks about any of those traits for anyone on here. Why would I? PPD is a tiny sliver of my life. I assume that it is for you too. if they feel bad …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 04:30 PM
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Yeah, if you get into a LTR purely for sex, that is retarded. You have a retarded goal. I thought that reds were proud of sharing "harsh truths" and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 04:26 PM
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Bitch please, you don't know me. The Hubs was finishing an instance in World of Warcraft so I decided to make a quick post before we watched the new South Park. And he rants probably two or three times a day about politics, so he's not exactly in any place to judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 04:25 PM
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Honestly, I don't even value babies as people unless they are at least two years old. Hashtag LegalizePostBirthAbortion
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 04:31 AM
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Dude was an emotional retard. And probably didn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 04:29 AM
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And I have no inferiority fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 04:26 AM
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I no take penis in butthole. Me and husband and no sodomy pack. I no put in his butthole, he no put in mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 04:26 AM
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Why do women scoff at MGTOWS This is where you are mistaken. We don't scoff at MGTOW. We say "oh yeah, those guys exist". And then we instantly forget about them again.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 04:25 AM
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No, but I did fuck a pi once.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/18 08:12 PM
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Man, I have no idea no what anyone on here is every talking about. What rules? What game? I'm just going to be in my corner with my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 10:09 PM
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I think I'd rather live long enough to see old age diseases.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 06:04 AM
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Eh, cattle tend not to be factory farmed as much as chickens or pigs, but they are still slaughtered young.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 05:45 AM
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I'm not suggesting that we kill anything. But if we are going to go out of the way to breed animals, it's fair to consider if the creation of the life is okay. Like if I had a genetic analysis done and found out there is a 25% that any child I have my with husband would have a horrible defect and die young. I'm not suggesting we kill anyone. But maybe we shouldn't create that life in the first place. Or if you are breeding dogs, and you could breed litter mates. They would have a high chance of …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 05:41 AM
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If they had the ability to feel pain, I would consider that when trying to figure out what to eat. But they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 05:35 AM
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Good for you. I've been bouncing between vegan and vegetarian for a long time now. It's really not that hard to do so long as you get a feel for how to cook good meatless dishes. Sadly a lot of recipes labeled as a vegetarian are gross, gluten free, sugar free, raw, vegan shit. I haven't found a good way to pick out the decent recipes. But in general, many Asian dishes, in particular Indian, Italian, and soups are a good place to start learning recipes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 04:10 AM
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So? If the only thing they get out of life is to suffer, it's best not to let them live at all. Same reason behind aborting a heavily deformed fetus.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 04:02 AM
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[Religious girls are] Antithetical to the word "intelligent" Let's put the fedoras away. And I think the passivity associated with "join a debate club and maybe you'll meet someone" is kind of non-advice when you're looking to find an SO. I think that it's honestly the best bet, even if uncertain. You can either try to meet these women through avenues they intend to meet potential husbands through, or avenues that aren't explicitly for meeting the love of your life. So you are stuck with dating …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 09:01 PM
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But they aren't contradictory, and that's the point. In fact, they do go together, though not the gold digger way. I want a guy who is smart, reliable, willing to carry his share of work, and how his shit together. That type of guy tends to have a decent job.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 07:49 PM
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Copy and pasted answer. Depends on what exactly you are looking for. Religious girls are obviously going to be religious groups. Churches or out reach groups. Intellectual women might be debate groups or certain book clubs. Charitable women work with charities, so you look at things like soup kitchens or Habit for Humanity. I met my husband in a study. If you look around universities or on online websites, you can find studies recruiting participants. Thing is the researchers will often get lab …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 07:46 PM
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I'm just going to copy and paste my reply to the same question. Depends on what exactly you are looking for. Religious girls are obviously going to be religious groups. Churches or out reach groups. Intellectual women might be debate groups or certain book clubs. Charitable women work with charities, so you look at things like soup kitchens or Habit for Humanity. I met my husband in a study. If you look around universities or on online websites, you can find studies recruiting participants. Thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 07:46 PM
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Depends on what exactly you are looking for. Religious girls are obviously going to be religious groups. Churches or out reach groups. Intellectual women might be debate groups or certain book clubs. Charitable women work with charities, so you look at things like soup kitchens or Habit for Humanity. I met my husband in a study. If you look around universities or on online websites, you can find studies recruiting participants. Thing is the researchers will often get lab mates and coworkers to j…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 07:44 PM
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Well, you clearly aren't looking where they are. And they do group together, so there are places where they concentrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 07:35 PM
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Nope. Alpha and beta are very weird descriptions to me. It paints a picture of dating and romance that is not at all how it really is. In particular, reds seem to bundle traits into alpha and beta and treat it as a single scale when in reality those traits can vary independently. I am sexually attracted to my husband, but he's also very reliable, hasn't had much luck with women before me, and is indecisive and generally has me take the lead. He's also confident, doesn't baby me, and will speak u…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 07:34 PM
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Or find one that you are attracted to. That's also an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 07:14 PM
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Is like hunting for hay in needlestacks Then stop looking in college parties and Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 07:13 PM
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and our first kiss. Oh man, I remember the first kiss with my husband. Outside my apartment after the second date. He was surprisingly smooth with it. I thought it was awesome, but I guess my autism was showing. I quickly fussed with my keys to get inside afterwards. I apparently have him the impression that I was worried he was about to rape him. Man, my girl game sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 08:09 PM
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This seems like a weird thing to analyze. Especially if you are at the point of actually loving them. I never thought much of it one way or another. Though my husband told me that he loved me first, for whatever that counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 08:06 PM
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When I said what the concern is It's the same as what you call consequences of the occurrence I thought that was pretty clear from context, but maybe not. Sorry to burst your bubble, but this rebuttal has completely missed the mark. You could say the same about rape. You keep referring to women and rape, but I'm really not sure what your point is. Yes, rape is a risk to be analyzed. It's a different concern (or "consequence" if you prefer that word), with a different probability, risk factors, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 07:53 PM
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Sure, and women employ that extra cost analysis as well. I have no idea how this is relevant. It all depends on what the cost is, what the concern is, and how likely it is to happen. Everyone does this with any fear. And yes, since women are human being capable of thought, they also do this analysis. The devil is in the details, not the abstract. The fear is false accusations. The risk is unlikely. With 323,000 reported cases of rape a year (citation), if 5% of those are false there is about 0.0…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 07:36 PM
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There's also the question of what the cost of extra vigilance is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/18 07:09 PM
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How I feel whenever incel threads come up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 12:33 AM
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At the start of new year, 2018, we had a purge week. No rules. At first it was fun, but within days the incel threads came. If you want to understand what we mean by incel threads, and why we ban them, go back to those threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 11:12 PM
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Man, people are weird. If you want to do something to put you into a different mental state and help with creativity, do some improv or something. This is just cringy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 09:12 PM
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No one would care what it has to say. Or at least the none of the people who have money. Academics don't just research whatever whimsy they have. Research is costly and there's not enough money to go around. If you want money, you need to justify why you should get the money. What kind of benefit to society would such a study have? Not a whole lot. That's problem number one. I'm sure there are some socialists somewhere who would like the answer, but it's a hard sell in terms of research projects…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 04:38 PM
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For every "More than 1 in 7 women (nearly 18.4 million) lived in poverty in 2014." there's 6 in 7 men living in poverty in 2014 If 1 in 7 women are impoverished, then we can infer 6 in 7 women are not impoverished. We can't infer anything about how many men are impoverished.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 04:32 PM
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No one wants to pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 03:06 PM
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This belief about the correlation between female high N counts and pair bonding has some support by studies. But it seems now a study comes out about every day that proves or disproves someone's view so I'm losing faith in studies. I've only seen one study to the effect, and it wasn't peer reviewed. The whole question is generally not a popular topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 11:55 PM
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Did I say that it was suppose to represent trans people?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 06:10 PM
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Not sure if you have ever been on r/TumblrinAction but that's not what they are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 05:57 PM
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What about her needs? Pfft, come on. I'm sure we both know that is some bullshit reasoning. I'm going to have to agree with the other guy there. She's a bitch and the real bad guy. But you being complicit isn't okay either. If an established thief wanted your help to steal from people, would you? Sell heroin to an addict, because they'll buy it from someone else anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 05:36 PM
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Why do so many people believe in the flat Earth? Why do so many believe that they are some kind of third gender and everyone should respect that? People are weird and with seven billion of us and the internet, we can find a lot of people who do or believe pretty much anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 04:48 PM
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Yes, women can be cunts. Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 03:15 PM
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I think that people want kids because society tells them the are suppose to. People also want kids because they enjoy spending time with kids. I think that ultimately the "passing on your genes" part is minor, at least in terms of your kids being child free.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 01:25 AM
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Hell if I know, I don't want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 11:20 PM
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Sure, it can be sad. But just because they're sad doesn't mean there was no point in having three kid. Also, I'm not sure why you are so convinced you aren't going to have kids, but there are options. Hell, if nothing else there is the Big Brother/Big Sister program.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 10:37 PM
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This is an odd question. If you want kids, then you would get 20 or so years of happiness and fulfillment with having children before the question of them also having kids ever comes up. 20 years of happiness isn't anything to stick your nose up. And if your desire to have kids comes from enjoying raising kids, why would them not wanting kids negate that experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 10:20 PM
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Are you trying to say that aggressively masculine men date hot chicks? I assume in response to me questioning the quality of partners? Really, I'm doing a lot of speculating here. When I said better, I was thinking overall better, not just in terms of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 08:06 PM
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Are you trying to say that aggressively masculine men date hot chicks? I assume in response to me questioning the quality of partners? Really, I'm doing a lot of speculating here. When I said better, I was thinking overall better, not just in terms of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 08:06 PM
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That's a pretty minor aspect of what was originally said. The original quote was A man protects those whom he has taken in his care against dangers they cannot face or handle without him. He makes an issue of some matter, engages his honor, and takes charge of the situation either as a routine or in an emergency.… The willingness to take on risk is the primary protection enveloping all other ways of providing for someone And lots of men have good, LTR without taking on that role.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 08:02 PM
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More partners? They pursue more often and more persistently. Better partners? I don't think that's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 06:40 PM
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Actually, that's what reds say. I think we are a pretty normal couple, but if we are the standard of normal, then TRP is describing stuff far from normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 06:37 PM
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Then make a post. Hash out people's experiences. It think that's an excellent idea. Every post needs to be like that. Or based on an article that we can all read, it something like that. Otherwise there's nothing to be said. You have experience X. I didn't. You draw conclusions from experience X, but I wasn't there so either I base this all on your retelling of experience X or we have nothing to say to each other. Really, what would you like to hear from something with my views reading your post…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 06:35 PM
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Do you deny that women are turned on by aggressive masculinity Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 06:12 PM
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I've dealt with a pregnant wife and I've seem my own mother run for the hills when my father was force to retire. These tests are things, they exist. And men do it too by giving each other shit and seeing if the guy is going to get all butt hurt. There are interactions that reds call shit/comfort tests. And these may be real interactions. But I question the rationale behind these interactions. Too bring my example back up, a woman might ask her boyfriend to do the dishes. I don't doubt this migh…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 06:02 PM
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I think the gist of it is that women are driven are a fear of their SO abandoning them. And something about women child?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 05:09 PM
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Each woman has a war raging inside her psyche. That is, her conscious ego's interests (being loved) are fundamentally in conflict with her inconscious id's interests (being thrown around by an alpha) Haha, no. I think you are taking porn too seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 05:04 PM
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If a man doesn't want to behave in this way then he can't be in a serious relationship with a woman. I don't know about that. My husband does none of that but we are still pretty happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 05:01 PM
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Women need security like men need sex. I don't think that's true. Yes, men have a higher sex drive. But I'm my experience they also have a higher relationship drive. They want a loving relationship as much if not more than women. I don't think that comfort or shit tests are a thing, and that it's just reds over thinking basic human interactions and putting too much meaning to them. For example, if you're girlfriend asks you to do the dishes, she isn't trying to probe your manliness. She just wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 04:51 PM
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Some are common sense, many are just wrong. Including some of the principles your are building of of. But okay, the series of replys would have been fun. I imagine they would be frustrating. I would focus most on the ideas your only briefly talk about. The ideas that you spent the most effort on would just get a shrug because they are based on inaccuracies. I might give it a try, depending on how boring my day is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 04:22 PM
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Your entire post is based on RP principles and builds off them. I was going to make a series reply, but when I disagree about things like shit tests and branch swinging it seems kind off pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 03:29 PM
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Beauty supplies. Women are really getting had by the beauty industry. I've had a number of women talk about how lucky I am that I don't need to were makeup everyday, and that they wish they didn't have to. What, are the police going to arrest you for being too frumpy?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 04:45 PM
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The hint of communism in that comment made me think they weren't talking about how African women work. Capitalism as we know it only really existed for a couple hundred years, and isn't prominent in many places if the world. Working in a farm to feed your family and buy basic goods isn't the same as working 15 hours in a factory to afford rent. Primarily that the fruits of your labor are not yours, and you are forced to work for a wage to even have a place to sleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 09:04 PM
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Yes, exactly that. I've never particularly liked SAHMs, though it's really none of my business, and I could never put my finger on why. You were worded it well. It's unskilled labor that doesn't pay. It's not impressive, and provided a man willing to pay, virtually any woman can do it. Achievements where many people actually fail are impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 08:59 PM
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what so different between "anti vaxxers or flat Earth advocates" and RPers that it provokes such response in people...? To me, there isn't much of a difference. But these groups generally aren't as open to debate, or at least I haven't found a place for it. There's a forum on the flat Earth society website open to debate, but it seems like unless a criticism was addressed in their FAQ, no one defenders flat Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 05:33 PM
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For fun. Trust me, there is nothing special about TRP. In terms of mocking subs, I also read Tumblr in action, fat logic, and insane people Facebook, to name the big ones. I also like to argue, and have posted on change my view, and ask feminists. I would like to argue with anti vaxxers or flat Earth advocates but I can't find a place. the only reason I can think of for putting so much effort in discrediting RP is if there is some truth in it... No. I argue and mock a wide range of views. Maybe …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 04:49 PM
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It happened rather fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 08:34 PM
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Why do you always start accusing people of downvoting you mid debate? You don't know who downvoted you and it really doesn't matter. I think Sub makes good points. She brought up cheating, not OP, and she meant it as infidelity. Which I think is certainly one of the shitty parts of TRP (MRP in particular). Also, I will agree with her, I really don't care if a person consciously or unconsciously learns behaviors. What matters are the behaviors themselves and the thoughts behind them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 08:12 PM
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My husband and I had it mostly as a formality. Neither of us dated a lot, and we both really only had eyes for each other. I think it came up mostly as a joke after we had been living together for a few months, now that I think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 08:05 PM
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Yeah, lots of blues think reds are acting unethically. I do differ in that I think most reds are ultimately harmless. Or at least no more harmful than the typical guy seeking sex. I'm not totally convinced that a lot of blues are here with the intention of getting them to stop, versus just having a platform to talk about their opinions. I mentioned it before, but I think that very few people actually debate to change minds, even if they like to think they are. Usually it's more about getting to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 08:57 PM
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Want to me elaborate on anything, or are you just trying to say I'm already logically inconsistent?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 08:50 PM
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So.. you DO care even as long as you don't rape anyone? Sure, I'll ahead and amend my statement that I would care if I thought someone was doing wrong. Though I don't think very many reds are actually doing wrong, which is the more important point I think. What is this? Breaking up with someone for any reason is going to hurt someone. You can't go through life with the selfless mantra to not hurt anyone. Oh come on, don't play dumb. When I say "don't hurt anyone", I mean don't do wrong, don't be…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 08:45 PM
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How do you figure? It's not as much to argue something if you see a ton of holes already in the idea. I will play devil's advocate plenty and argue for things that I don't believe if I consider them logically consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 08:42 PM
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Most men aren't cut out to get casually laid WITHOUT using manipulative tactics. And so from women's perspective, they shouldn't be getting casual sex, if they have to cheat to get it. I can get along the ethical train. If you need to lie/manipulate people to get what you want, you shouldn't do that even if it means not getting what you want. But as long as you aren't hurting anyone, I really don't care how or if you get laid. I think the ethical clause if a pretty fair caveat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 08:22 PM
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misunderstanding the language of sales heuristics I'm not misunderstanding them. Some people consider them as heuristics and nothing more, and don't think that TRP is descriptive in any way. But tons of people don't take that stance. Lots, probably even most, reds think TRP describes reality to some extent. Those are the people I'm arguing with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 08:19 PM
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No, I'm here because I get a rush of validation and other stimulating feelings that liven up an otherwise boring work day. Arguments are often under the facade of changing minds, but it's usually not. It's mostly to feel better about yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 08:16 PM
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I suspect confirmation bias plays a role here. You start looking for all the ways a woman fits AWALT and ignore all the ways she doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 07:26 PM
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Yeah, those threads are always boring to be. As long as you don't rape anyone, I really don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 07:10 PM
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the heuristics learned at TRP end up improving the lives of its members Maybe they, maybe they don't. But as I said, I don't really care about how reds live their life. I'm here to argue about the facts. Also, most purple pillers admit TRP is far more objective/truthful, even if not 100%, than TBP What is "TBP" in this situation? The sub? Because that's just a bunch of people poking fun at TRP, it's not an alternative. I'm staunchly BP and I firmly believe that TRP has no real insight to reality…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 07:08 PM
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Everyone has some bias, but the claim here is that reds have and openly admit to a bias, and even a logical fallacy. They had a bad experience with one person. And they use that bad experience with a single individual to draw beliefs about a group of people as a whole (a fallacy). Whereas blues didn't have that traumatic experience to color their views. Again, I'm not saying that blues don't also have their own fallacies and biases. By all means, call them out when you see them. But this is a pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 06:39 PM
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So can we agree that factually speaking, these people are now biased? Smoogs said that calling them biased/bitter won't "help BP goals". But he seems to be assuming the goal is to change the mind of these men. But that's really not my goal. I'm just here to argue for fun, and I really don't care about changing any minds. If you wanted to change the mind of a red piller, a more delicate approach is needed. But I think that validating their bad experience while trying to show NAWALT would be the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 06:19 PM
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I know plenty of people. And if TRP describes zero of the hundred people I know, it's not looking good.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 05:51 PM
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As I said, he's childish in good ways. He does have his life together and is a functional adult. What traits in particular do you think most women wouldn't like?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 05:50 PM
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It's possible that men and women perceive TRP very differently. I'm just reading TRP literally, and when taken in a literal sense it is objectively wrong. Or at least doesn't describe any of the people or relationships I know. For example, the guy who sleeps around the most of the people I know isn't there picture perfect alpha. He's relatively social and outgoing, but also tends to be an emotional thinker. He's a giant romantic too, falling in and out of love constantly. He's not very stoic eit…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 05:48 PM
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But i just don't see most girls wanting to be with an indecisive weak minded and passive man long term. Those traits really aren't that bad, particularly if you have complimentary traits. How old are you btw We're both mid 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 05:44 PM
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You like non dominate, Yes. I tend to be very proud and don't take well to being led by others. indecisive I'm ambivalent about it. I'm good at making the decisions so it's not a big deal. weak willed He's not. I never said that. fearful He's also not particularly fearful. He has fears but they aren't excessive, unjustified, or crippling.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 06:10 AM
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Evidence for myself or others? I personally feel pretty secure to write off TRP because of how poorly it describes virtually everyone. Apparently women are suppose to be super emotional, illogical creatures that crave strong, decisive stoic men. I literally don't know anyone like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 05:58 AM
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A hot girl with an abundance of options wont put up with those behaviours for long, why should she? Because they aren't bad behaviors, which was my point. All the traits I listed I am ambivalent about at worst. Many of them I adore.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 05:55 AM
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You think that why? I don't think most women are willing to put up with your husband. Why do you think that women wouldn't "put up" with him? As least what you said about him he comes off to me as a child if you will. He's childish in all the good ways
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 05:53 AM
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NT?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 06:45 PM
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Yes, obviously. I wouldn't marry him if I weren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 06:04 PM
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Yep. Or at least a very sizable portion of them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 05:41 PM
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This ties into the bad definitions of alpha and beta. But here's why I think you're wrong. People here would say my husband is beta. He's not dominate, usually leaving me to make decisions. He'll ramble on about his hopes, fears, and frustrations to me. And he's sweet, always checking on me. He has a perfect sense of humor, and we have a great banter. He is bad with people and likes to stay in on Fridays, just like me. He never gets me gifts, takes me anywhere, or subsidizes my lifestyle. He isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 05:05 PM
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Going to agree here. Birth control isn't a right either. But it's not a bad idea to stem unwanted pregnancies from a societal perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 01:31 AM
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Mostly she'll just say she wants to be left alone and watch a chick flick and cry. That does not sound even slightly like me. I don't watch chick flicks and I don't cry.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 05:41 PM
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Well, I don't ovulate anymore. But even when I did, I didn't get moody. So I really didn't expect anything different. If a women has severe mood swings, that seems like a medical issue that she should talk with her doctor about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 05:29 PM
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I think it's pretty silly to take an overly statistical view of things. It's all correlations and it's pretty sketchy to assume if you intentionally move to that demographic you'll get the benefit. Good example is with kids. Childless couples are more likely to divorce, but popping out kids for the sole reason of helping your marriage probably won't end well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 07:53 PM
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This is a debate sub. Debates are the point. Though I personally don't see much to debate here. Sometimes men can get their first pick, sometimes not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/18 08:06 PM
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You really think in primitive times delicate women were off running around the open world in search of new men? Yes. Women really aren't that delicate. We evolved to survive in the same harsh environment after all. Though how exactly individuals move between groups is an entirely different question. No, the young men would often be sent out or cast out and they would learn to survive and maybe eventually even provide. Evidence suggests that was not the norm. Source your claim that women left the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/18 07:44 PM
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Any species of social animals need to prevent inbreeding. If they all stayed in their birth group they would end up breeding with family. So one or both genders usually leave for another group. Elephant herds are all female with most of them being blood related. Males are kicked out when old enough and form smaller bachelor herds. Other groups like meerkats and wolves start with one breeding pair, and they are the only ones allowed to breed with all others in the pack being blood related. IIRC h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/18 06:18 PM
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Expect, engage and reward... I think those examples above are congruent with feminism as defined by the right to choose whatever lifestyle works for you If you are expecting people to follow a certain lifestyle, it's not exactly letting them choose whatever works for them. I'm not a feminist nor do I police who is and isn't calling themselves feminists. But if you are actively expecting and pushing for women to follow traditional, subservient roles I don't think you are a feminist. You can be a …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/18 04:42 PM
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That pun was so terrible he might have another seizure. Good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 09:14 PM
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I had an eventful week. Woke up a week ago to my husband having a seizure. Learned that seizures are fucking terrifying to watch. Then I married that guy this last weekend. I also bought a rental property, am writing my thesis, and cancelled my honeymoon due to the aforementioned seizure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 08:41 PM
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I wasn't around for that thread, but I suspect you might be skipping relevant details. I have no issue giving a flaw of my husband (he's indecisive, for example) and most people I know are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 08:23 PM
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Do you think people, feminists in particular, will start to advocate and lobby for community day cares like they once did? They stopped doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 04:18 AM
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So what exactly do we mean by "bar" in this context? Is it just referring to bars where a lot of hook ups happen? I go to bars all the time without my husband. And he goes without me. Usually when hanging out with friends and family. It's nice to have a free drinks and munch some things while chatting and catching up. Play some pool. There's a lot more to do in a bar than hookup
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 04:11 AM
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This. I get it is a hypothetical, but you can only get so far removed from reality before the answers get meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/18 11:49 PM
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After that age range men cheat exponentially higher. It's a bit of a pet peeves of mine when people misuse the phrase "exponentially more". You did not. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 10:41 PM
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The term "whoring off" is obviously offensive to many women, and in this case it triggered violence. Well, that was a scripted, fictional event. Not a good example of anything. How do you feel about prostitution morally? In principle I am 100% fine with it. A women should be allowed to sell her body to a man who wants to have her. In reality there's a lot of bad things around prostitution. Lots of women are trafficked for this reason, which is awful. Even when they are willing, it's not uncommon…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 09:37 PM
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Why do you think it is a red flag?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 07:25 PM
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I know the difference. I'm saying that being child free is a preference, not a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 07:13 PM
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A huge red flag? How? Obviously you shouldn't marry one if you want kids, but that's just about having a shared vision of the future. I don't want kids so a guy who does want kids would be a huge red flag to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 06:55 PM
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I don't shave my legs. The thing is they get prickly so fast. When they have grown out it's really not that bad texture wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 06:24 PM
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How do men know that they don't like getting pegged by burly German women, if they have never met a women burly enough or German enough to fuck them right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 06:59 AM
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No. Men would absolutely buy it. I'm really not convinced. Obviously some will, but would enough to overcome the billion dollar investment to develop it? The thing is that female hormonal birth control is so widely available and used, and only one of you need to be on birth control. How many guys would actually be inclined to take this drug when their girlfriends/wives are already on birth control?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/18 05:40 PM
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I'm pretty sure these criteria are based on averages, stats, and evolutionary psychology They aren't. It's really just red pill fantasies and whatever makes them feel better about themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/18 09:44 PM
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Who is most likely to blow their money at the casino...The person who's never touched a blackjack table or the person who has a gambling problem? Who is the better employee...The person with an excellent work history or the person who has been fired 5 times for negligence? That's fine logic, but it's not the same logic as with the partner count situation because you are considering different actions. If Susy sleeps with a new guy every week, it's fair to believe that she will continue to sleep w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/18 07:07 PM
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I don't know if I'm just a special snowflake or if you guys have no idea how most women love their life. But I do not relate to this question at all. do you feel technology like dating apps, social media like instagram and snapchat I'm not on social media, much less dating apps. orbiters constantly texting you This also never happens. has just given you too many options? I never felt like I had a ton of options, but then again I was never that interested in having a lot of other options. Dating …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 11:25 PM
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Nah. I don't see how it would affect the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 07:11 PM
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I take a similar approach with my husband. He has a hard time choosing dinner, or even coming up with suggestions. He gets one chance to say if he had any specific craving. After that I'll list no less than three suggestions. If he still doesn't know I'll make whatever he wants. He can eat some or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 09:02 PM
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That's a lot of stretching there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/18 08:57 PM
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This is all that needs to be said.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/18 06:10 PM
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I always thought that was assumed too. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 01:16 AM
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It's an adult male who had not taken on the responsibilities of an adult. They are emotional, entitled, expect to be taken care of, usually in several different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 05:02 PM
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Embrace it. Become one with the heat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/18 09:03 PM
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Interesting. My mom did exactly that. She was single, late 30s, and wanted a baby. And that is the background of my conception. It worked for her and I'm alive so I give it a thumbs up. Obviously not for everyone though. I will say that I think you need to have a good support network and ability to provide if you want to have kids, but that shouldn't always mean having a husband (or wife or any spouse). Is it really that hard to date as a career woman? In my experience, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 01:53 AM
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Yes, she added requirements without lowering her standards for attractiveness. These things are not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 07:21 AM
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I never cared about guys for most of my life. When I was 20 I found an awesome guy and five years later we are about to get married. So I went from 'boys are icky' to 'I want to spend the rest of my life with this guy' if that counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 07:19 AM
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Yes. As she clearly explained in her comment. She sought out a guy equally attractive as her STR guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 07:11 AM
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With your comment, nope, not in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 04:47 AM
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They rarely break, and significantly reduce risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 12:57 AM
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The link breaks it down by age bracket, there still isn't a big different. And if men are specifing that these women need to be attractive, well, that's their issue. No, there's not enough beautiful women to go around for every man. Some men, probably the ugly ones, will have to settle for ugly women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 09:30 PM
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Virtually anywhere you live there ratios are going to be close. To the point where I'm skeptical that it has a real influence. It's usually comparable to the LGBT population. Luckily we don't need to guess, they have stats already on this. If you want to look at California it actually tends to have an abundance of women rather than men (citation). Unless you live in a prison in Lasson County, which is a sausage fest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 08:29 PM
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There's the same number of men and women. There is not an abundance of men with respect to women. Do there are a couple ways to explain this. One, men like to whine and cry and think that the grass is greener on the other side. Two, women just don't want relationships as much as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 07:54 PM
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And that's cool and all. Just don't pretend that prudish, science nerd, 25 year old me wants the same things as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 06:36 PM
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This whole value thing has seemed weird to me. Who is deciding the value, and value for what? The answer from the red pill seems to be some balance of being very attractive to individual women and attractive to the most different women, and for the purposes of sex. Which is an okay start, but if your hope with this value is to get sex, you should only be considering how sluts view you. Why try to sell steaks to a vegetarian? This also brings up the question of what your goal is as the man. Is ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 06:16 PM
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The face is more important, hands down. That's a no brainier.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 06:05 PM
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I would also like to add that the typical child support payments aren't enough to cover the cost of having a kid. The average child support order is for $500 a month, though on average the actual amount paid is closer to $350 (citation). If you aren't a neglectful parent, you would be loosing money here, not getting a free meal ticket.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 05:56 PM
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Believe whatever you want, but don't use me as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 03:00 AM
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Actually, I can definitively say that you are wrong there. We met in grad school, where we both made the same, paltry wage. We are going into equally well paid fields. But he graduated sooner and has been making substantially more than me. I'm not more or less attracted to him, but I am unhappy with the difference and an now much more eager to graduate and get a real job myself. So again, stop making assumptions about be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 02:42 AM
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I have an aversion to men that make more than me. Stop making assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 02:38 AM
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u/gasparddelanuit Yes, I wouldn't want a guy to make too much more than me either. I certainly wouldn't want him to be spending money on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 01:43 AM
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Your thread is very misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 02:03 AM
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So you don't think that men get raped that often? You know, this thread would have been a lot easier to understand if you just said that you think the definition is shit, rather than say men get raped just as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 02:00 AM
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So do you think think all those women in the 1-in-5 stat were legitimately raped, and rape is rampant in our society for both genders? Or that the 1-in-5 stat usrs too broad of a definition, and this can be highlighted by showing that men get rape by women as much as women get raped by men by their standards? Because those are two very different stances.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 01:59 AM
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And they used a stupid definition. The author of the article even implies that the definition of rape is misleading broad, rather than that female on male rape is equally common. It's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 01:54 AM
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You are prepared to reap the social benefits of marriage while giving the bare minimum (sex, maybe?) in return. Now where did you get the idea that I would be giving the bare minimum in return? Then, you ask that we contemplate asking men to assess if marriage is in their interests, because it's in your interests. I think that it is in my fiance's interest too. I've noticed a lot of people here think it's always a bad move for a man to get married, so it seemed like a good thing to make a thread…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 05:02 PM
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Should she contribute to 90% of the chores? Yeah, I think so. It's not like she is entitled to any of that money. At least if that was my relationship, if other people want to do it differently that's up to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 04:59 PM
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To add to that, dishwashers are bad are removing stuck on food. If you don't want to eat bits of old meals you usually have to do some pre-washing by hand. I do the cooking at home and I think it is much better than doing the dishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 04:51 PM
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I think it should come down to how much money they provide for the household. If they each provide 50% of the funds, they should each do 50% of the chores. I don't think how physically exhausting the job is should matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 04:47 PM
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We are starting to veer off topic here, but I go to that sub a fair bit. My impression was that you need to be at least 30 before doctors start taking you seriously. Either way, I'm going to be changing employers soon and my current health insurance is through them. I'll probably have to change doctors with jobs. My plan to is to start testing the waters at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 07:00 AM
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I would like to live as nice of a standard of living as my income reasonably allows. I would like a man who can financially keep up with me. Some larger expenses take a few years to save up for, and during that time I'm okay with having a lower standard of living. Following point 2 and 3, it's okay for a guy to temporarily not be able to keep up if I'm saving up for something. Point 4 is not a valid long term stance of I'm not going to be perpetually saving up. Unpalatable doesn't mean confusing…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 06:40 AM
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My god this all sounds complicated and legalistic It's really not. There's me expenses and us expenses. If there's an us expense we try to have both of us rack up the same bill so it can go on the joint account. Jk but damn that’s COLD!! I give him presents and treat him out, just like how I might with a friend. But ultimately my money is mine and his is his.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 06:35 AM
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Your fiance doesn't know you 100%, and you don't know your future self 100%. Why the assumption that I'm the one to change my mind? I would like him to get a vasectomy but he doesn't want it. Sans that I'd like to my tubes tied but from what I hear it's bitch to do if you are a childless woman with no medical need.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 06:30 AM
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Blonde, long hair, little thin but oh so smooth. I'm actually bummed because he recently cut it short to look more professional.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 06:22 AM
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Then why would you making more money than him mean you would have to spend money on him? He was okay with saving up for a couple years for a down payment. That wouldn't work long term. since you specified it was so important that your money was your money. Why is this so unpalatable to so many people?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 06:18 AM
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Do you split checks at a restaurant? Yep. Well he have a joint account that we put equal amounts into, and use on joint expenses like that. If one of our meals costs more we split the check and put it on personal accounts. My husband paid for our last vacation but that’s because the vast majority of his earnings go into savings. Yeah, that wouldn't fly in our relationship. Vacations cost a lot. I would be expected to pay for all my own expenses and vice versa. Assume it’s a long term trend. What…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 06:14 AM
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...No? How does that follow? I'd rather he not spend his money on me. But what he would want to do with his extra income is up to him. These past few years my fiance has earned significantly more than me. He's been saving it and investing in real estate with his mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 06:08 AM
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Magnificent.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 06:04 AM
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That's a pretty candid way of seeing things. Candid means honest, just FYI. Is he a lawyer in family courts? If not his stance can be dismissed. No, but he's spent a lot of time with me. One of the main reasons why the flame of passion eventually burns and fades. We've been dating for five years. Our passionate honey moon phase is long gone. We are in the comfortable companion phase now. Finally a good reason to marry. And the only not fickle reason out of all. But still not enough per se to cem…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 06:03 AM
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I'm going to copy/past my other answer. The issue is what to do with my extra earning potential. I can't buy a house without him also living in it. If I take a bitching vacation it would have to be without him. If I go to a nice restaurant I couldn't take him along. I would rather a guy who can keep up financially. Otherwise I would either have to forfeit my higher standard of living or subsidize his. What if you got an unexpected windfall? I'm assuming this is a long term trend. Have occasional…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 05:50 AM
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The issue is what to do with my extra earning potential. I can't buy a house without him also living in it. If I take a bitching vacation it would have to be without him. If I go to a nice restaurant I couldn't take him along. I would rather a guy who can keep up financially. Otherwise I would either have to forfeit my higher standard of living or subsidize his.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 05:45 AM
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I literally don't think there is a single thing I can say to change your mind. I just so happened to fall in love with a guy that is six feet, so you assume that I must demand it in men? He also had gray eyes, do you think I would only ever date a guy with great eyes too?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 05:25 AM
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It's not like I expected it. The dude just so happens to be six feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 04:51 AM
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Did my answer disappoint you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 04:46 AM
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I want my money to be my money. I don't want to support a guy. Seems pretty self explanatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 04:45 AM
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Is he an alpha male? I don't know. That's a red pill term, I don't concern myself with it. How attractive and how tall is he Six feet even, and I'm attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 04:37 AM
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Why are you so confident about it? Considering demographics alone we only have a 20% of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 04:34 AM
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OP, has your fiance had a vasectomy? That's better than a prenup for saving him $ in a divorce. Nope, he doesn't want one either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 04:33 AM
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Most important thing on your list is money. I don't want to be the breadwinner. Second most important is driving. I can respect wanting me to drive some of the time. And I can understand having anxiety. But that would be inconvenient. Height is least important. Shorter guys can be cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 04:20 AM
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Yep. But just considering out demographics we have a low risk of divorce. When I compare how well we get along compared to other couples, I think it is even lower. And that's the difference between us and everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 03:09 AM
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So do the vast majority of people who get married. Someone once called it 'reckless optimism', which I think fits him well. But in reality we do have a low risk of divorce. When you consider our demographics alone (white, mid 20's, well educated) we already have an 80% chance of making it. And when I consider how well we get alone compared to others I like to think it is even higher than that. That's ignorant. Even the people who's divorces were financially amicable wouldn't want to go through i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 03:05 AM
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As I said, I could have gone either way. I don't think my life will change after marriage. We already live together and share as much of the finances as we ever plan to. Honestly, my of my biggest reasons was that I was feeling more and more juvenile having a boyfriend and not a husband. Which I could have easily let roll off my back. But my fiance felt like we should eventually get married for the reasons I outlined in the OP. So really the only point was what boils down to societal pressures.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 02:57 AM
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I agree with virtually all of this comment and you have fair reasons to not want to marry. However, A marriage would make no changes to my life but, even with separate finances and a prenup, my assets will now be at risk. You can specify how to divide current and future assets. Our prenup says that unless it it jointly titled, it is sole and separate property. Doesn't matter who paid for it or when.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 02:54 AM
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I think all men would benefit from being free also. I believe marriage is a less natural fit for men than it is for women, because it goes against men’s optimal mating strategy, their natural proclivities and ties them into a gynocentric agenda. Care to expand on this? I think that married life suits a lot of men just fine. Time will tell, but on average I would say yes, not only because of the loss of freedom What exactly do you mean by "freedom"? Do you mean just the process of having to make …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 02:51 AM
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Marriage is for raising children. That's a fair reason, though I hope you realize not everyone wants to get married for children.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 02:44 AM
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What was?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 12:37 AM
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But you can always Change Your Mind and hire a lawyer to convince a judge to tear up that prenup because "Not fair" and "changed positions" and "but that was then, this is now" blah blah blah. Well, no. Throwing it out a prenup really isn't that way. Sub did a post on this here where she found that very few prenups were thrown out. Considering that we both paid out the ass for legal representation an made sure we did everything right, I really doubt that we could get it thrown out. But here's th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 12:07 AM
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We have stats to see this didn't describe the typical marriage. On average married people are happy with their sex life, have sex twice a week, and cheating is uncommon. In terms of controlling wives that don't let you do fun things, that's one of those things you can avoid in women before you marry anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 11:52 PM
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Well aren't you a bundle of joy. Found yourself a nice little beta, congrats. Your call him whatever you want, but he's the love of my life. And sure you didn't really care about marriage I was on the fence. I could have gone either way. It's not like I'm taking his last name, mixing finances, or having kids. Our marriage is missing a lot of Wyatt traditionally goes into marriage. just like how you're not a feminist. There is no patriarchy, women are not oppressed, and feminists don't like it wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 11:49 PM
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most people who marry have at least vague plans for a family down the road, and while they have that family (especially young kids) they go into "grin and bear it mode" and tend to lose a lot of their intimacy. and in several years when theyre consistently able to be intimate again... who knows if they'll have the same chemistry? who knows if she'll have the same desire for her husband? who knows if she'll even feel feminine after trading in parts of her identity for "mom mode?" who knows if she…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 11:44 PM
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To me, marriage's primary function is to create a stable environment to raise children. I think that is the most practical reason to get married. I would never want to have a kid without some serious commitment from a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 11:19 PM
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I'm really not convinced that there is a decline. There's change, but why believe it's leading to our end?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 11:06 PM
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Haha, holy shit dude. Okay, I'll just leave you to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 10:22 PM
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An individual doesn't need to have kids. Society as a whole does, but I don't. I can leave that to the Duggers and their ilk. Also, an interesting note here is something like half of all kids are born outside of marriage. Myself included, it was my mother and grandmother who raised me with no real help from my dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 10:20 PM
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My mistake, but the point still stands. There's a lot more to womanhood than a method of communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 10:11 PM
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This entire thread is weird and misleading. It's framed in a way to make it seem like women are winning with marriage but that's that the question actually being asked. Raising children is resource intensive and it's naturally going to be easier with two parents than one. But this applies just as much in reserve. If a man wants to be a father he is better off marrying a woman rather than being a single dad. Having two people on your team is always going to be easier than doing it solo regardless…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 10:09 PM
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And ironically when a topic comes up about men being unfit for marriage, it's framed as women having too high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 09:52 PM
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So it's a woman's subtle and indirect communication that you like? Not the boobs or body, or ability to give birth, or any of that stuff? You draw the line of womanhood at communication methods?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 09:50 PM
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What if a guy wants a life partner and not just a series of casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 09:41 PM
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It's a really weird foundation IMO. Like there is some recipe for having a good marriage. Reality is that different people like different dynamics and have different expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 09:24 PM
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I don't think it is entitled. It's good wisdom to tell people to chase what they want. If a guy said "women are cowards for not approaching men" he'd be eaten alive for being self-entitled. So? That would just mean it's an unpopular stance, but popularity doesn't define what is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 08:13 PM
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Are women basically trying to have it both ways? Or, and hear me out, this in an individual woman who doesn't speak for all of us. Here's my take on the matter. Men should ask women it is they want a relationship. If you want something in general, you should try to make it yours. The same is true for women. If they fancy a guy, they should be willing to make the first move This isn't an entitled attitude. If no guy likes me, I don't think anyone should approach me. And I don't think any guy in p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 07:08 PM
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He's usually not that bad, but he's always been like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/18 12:34 AM
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Oh God, my 70 year old dad was doing that to the waitresses in Hooters. Intense, wordless stare, like a lion on the hunt. For ten fucking minutes. And then he proceeded to follow her around the restaurant, chatting with her. The bits of conversation I heard had her getting pretty annoyed. She was asain American and he was making mildly racist jokes at the time. Perhaps some of the hardest second hand cringe of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 07:57 PM
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That's a bad idea. How the typical user acts is a very good basis to judge on. After all, TRP (supposedly) judges women by the typical woman, not the best possible women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 07:36 PM
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I know enough of stoicism to know it's not particularly appealing to me. I do take objection to your description of the colloquial sense. It's a useful word that describes real personality traits. Just because it shares a name with a branch of philosophy doesn't mean 'stoicism' shouldn't refer to 'enduring hardship and pain without expressing emotion'. The word 'objectivism' is a good way to talk about the trait of looking at things factually, even though it is also a branch of philosophy. Prett…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 11:31 PM
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I don't think that you understand stoicism as a school of philosophy. I wasn't talking about stoicism as a school of philosophy. I was using it in the colloquial sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 10:51 PM
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Yeah, I'm really not that concerned about the wall. I'm getting married now, at 25, so man hunting isn't exactly in my future. But regardless, I don't want a guy whose to priority in a woman is her looks. youth/beauty are more central to a woman's value than to a man's value I don't know whose doing the evaluating here, but I don't really care what they think. Only two people matter when it comes to evaluating me; my SO and my employer. My value to my employer is only going to go up with age and…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 09:58 PM
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Dem downvotes. Kinda proving OP's point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 09:57 PM
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But the people on here are not going to be interested in following RP advice to a T (or at least not all of us).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 06:30 PM
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I don't have an ultimate goal, nor do I particularly want one. I want to work as chemist in a job that I don't hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 06:25 PM
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Is your mission tied to your career? Yep, in fact it's exactly that. I'm working towards my degree in biochemistry. After that, I want to build a career and work hard as a chemist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 06:14 PM
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Another strawman feminists thread? Yaaaaay....
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 12:18 AM
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You're selectively choosing to assign blame when these types of interpersonal relationship dynamics have shades of gray and nuance. I do take a fairly black and white stance on relationships. But your agency doesn't go away when you get married. Also, you are 100% excusing her behaviour when you claim people "unconciously" eat themselves into obesity Yeah, lots of people seem to be reading it like that. So let me break it down a bit more. People's actions sometimes are bad. If they should have b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/18 12:09 AM
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Since we only get her side of the story, we don't know whether he truly never dropped a hint or how open to criticism she would have been. True. Hell, the entire post might be made up. But I don't think it's particularly useful to reimagine the post. It's not as if it was a big secret that there are women out there who would react very poorly to any insinuation that they're anything short of perfect (and the further they're away from "perfect", the poorer their reactions get). Yep, it would defi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 11:55 PM
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No shit - nobody wants to get fat. She just didn't care enough to put the spoon aside every once in a while. Maybe you didn't read the preceding comments. My point with that line is that cheating is done consciously, while getting fat is unconscious. Getting fat was unintentional, cheating was intentional. A bluepiller who was fair and would criticize all people from his or her high horse equally would say that she felt entitled to his perpetual love and attention without doing anything to warra…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 11:50 PM
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Do you think he got married with the intention to cheat? Do you feel he had the intention to be not attracted to his wife? That's irrelevant to my point. His sin was a conscious one. He knew exactly what he was doing. Her's was an unconscious one. She didn't eat for the purpose of getting fat, while he sought out women for the purpose of cheating. That she didn't have the intention is the excuse you use to minimise her responsibility. People are reading it like I'm trying to shift the responsibi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 11:44 PM
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Your entire argument deflects responsibility from the wife in this scenario, and lays the blame for the infidelity solely on the husband. For the infidelity? Yes, it was 100% his fault. He didn't have to cheat. He chose to. You even go so far as to claim that she "unconsciously" ate over 458,000 calories She did not make the conscious decision to get fat, unlike him who had the conscious decision to cheat. Her weight gain didn't happen with a single decision. It was a serious of minor decisions …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 10:25 PM
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She loved food more than she loved her husband. Again, sure didn't eat with the intention to get fat. Nor did she over eat with the idea that he will leave her. When she was putting on the pounds, she probably wasn't thinking in terms of food versus husband. It was only after she caught him did she realize it was damaging the marriage. And when she realized how damaging it was she started to lose weight, thereby choosing hey husband over food. Was she faithful? Yes, absolutely. Being day and bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 10:16 PM
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Depends on how the babies are prepared, and what kind of sauce is used.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 10:08 PM
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I'm not sure if it satire or not, but your flair is the perfect emphasize.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 09:49 PM
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I challenge you right now to go on that sub, make a post saying that your husband gave you an ultimatum to lose weight or lose him and see how that goes. The ultimatum is what I think is fair and appropriate. I'm not saying anything about the community in r/relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 09:17 PM
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Absolutely. I don't think the husband in this case was wrong for not being attracted to his wife. That is a lot of weight, and you can't expect a guy to be okay with that. But there are right and wrong ways to approach the issue. Giving her an ultimatum of lose the weight or lose him is okay. Not saying anything and start seeing other women isn't okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 08:57 PM
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It wasn't like she was eating with the intention of putting on the weight. I'm sure she noticed she was putting oty back on though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 08:43 PM
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In all fairness, OP said it was over the course of having two babies. So probably at least two years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 08:37 PM
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That is still not an excuse to just say "fuck it" and gain 130 pounds. No, it's certainly not. OP shouldn't have put on that weight and she should continue to lose it. But unconsciously putting on weight and then deciding to lose it it not nearly as bad as consciously seeking out other women. Do you think that "Sticking it through rough times" applies if your husband quits his job and refuse to work as well? I think that as long as your spouse is willing to try to fix your problems, so should yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 08:24 PM
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Uh huh. So you have absolutely nothing of value to say, other than calling me fat. Noted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 08:13 PM
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It's a personal jab, implying that I'm fat (I'm not) and that's the only relevant detail. If you don't have anything to say about my actual thoughts or opinions, then don't say anything at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 08:09 PM
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130 pounds takes a long time to gain. He didn't cheat "as soon" as she gained weight. Granted, it likely spanned a few years. But he never talked to her about it, so it does seem like cheating was his first choice. Rather than do something to try to fix the marriage, his first choice was to further damage it. Absolutely not, weight gain happens when you eat too much. Job/stress/children/mental illness are all just bad excuses, the only thing that makes you gain weight is eating more than mainten…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 08:08 PM
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I think you shouldn't bother making such comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 07:57 PM
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That's all you gotta say as a rebuttal? Accusing me of being fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 07:55 PM
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What the husband did was unacceptable, even given her weight. It is completely fair to expect him to remain faithful. Marriage is about sticking it out through rough times. A guy who immediately goes to find side women as soon as the wife puts on weight is flakey af and not husband material. Utterly inexcusable. Weight gain happens, particularly as you age, get complacent, and life gets more demanding with kids and careers. It's one of those things that can easily get pushed on the back burner a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/18 07:42 PM
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well... why not take you seriously or able to take a career? I understand the mistrust in relationships (like men suffer right now), but how would the job market be affected? could you elaborate? If most men think that women are overly emotional, irrational, and don't handle stress well they probably won't want to hire women. Another thing, to settle down at early age? why? if everybody accepts things like AF/BB, then settling later makes more sense for both men and women. Men since early age kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 08:00 PM
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How do you explain this thread I'm not convinced OP isn't a troll. Besides, when the topic comes up in here most of the women say they don't care. women who advocate against sex dolls and these sort of things? Scanning all of the internet, I've only seen one woman who actually advocates against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 07:55 PM
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It would probably suck to be a woman. Men wouldn't take me seriously, they would constantly be expecting me to defer to them in relationships. I probably couldn't build a career. I would be expected to settle down early in life. I might have to take up crossdressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/18 04:59 PM
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The topic rarely comes up because we don't care. Try to find threads on the topic on a feminist subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 06:40 PM
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No, it doesn't. Virtually no women pay any mind to these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 06:09 PM
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In my heart of hearts, I legitimately do not care about artificial wombs or sex bots.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 06:05 PM
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Then why is allowing men who were unable to procreate the natural way to have another way of raising their own children a controversy? It's not. Why are some women up in arms over the thought of men having sex-dolls? Virtually no women care.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 06:01 PM
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And a C sections allows a child into the world when the mother isn't fit to give birth naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 04:47 PM
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I really don't think this is a widely held concern among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 04:45 PM
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I've only ended one relationship, so I guess I'll just talk about that. It was a high school relationship. I never got much male attention, so when he asked me out I thought 'why not'. And then I experienced that sweet drug of being in a relationship, affection, cuddles, all that stuff. I needed that preface because think it's going to sound weird. But I never actually liked him, which is why I eventually ended it two years later. We didn't like the same shows or had any of the same hobbies. He …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 10:08 PM
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Ultimatums are only "useful" if you are ready to leave the relationship and are willing to give the other person one last chance to change whatever it is. An ex told me that he planned to start selling cocaine, and I gave him an ultimatum: "If you sell illegal drugs, I will leave." I have 0 desire to be with anyone who sells hard drugs. Very much this. Ultimatums shouldn't be attempts to manipulate or empty threats. They should be if-then statements meant to inform a person for decision making. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 09:55 PM
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That's one approach. But not all men are concerned, and many still want to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 09:47 PM
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Divorce can be rough, no one here is disagreeing with that. What we are saying is that one, divorce sucks for women also, and two, many guys here tend to view community property as entirely theirs and that's not fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 09:46 PM
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Oh man, I love my fiance's hair. Probably the best physical feature about him. Don't tell him this, but I would be heartbroken if he went bald. I would still love him and stay with him. But in the dead of night, I'd roll over, stare at his barren head and just sigh sadly. I'd be very fine with a hair transplant. I'd rather that than a bald guy. I guess it's not natural in the since that it is the product of medical intervention. But it's natural hair and not a toupee, that's the important thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 08:30 PM
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This depends heavily on what exactly is meant by red and blue. There are different dimensions, like how politically progressive/SJW-y you are, your views on human nature, and what kind of relationship with the opposite sex you want to have. I tend to view it like a bullseye target, with the very center being pure red. You can vary and start to diverge on any dimension. If you get too far away in any dimension you become more and more blue. In this way, blues can have radically different views fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 12:13 AM
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I thought the "we are all feminists at TRP" gave it away Believe it or not, I've heard similar lines before. I am teasing you jesus christ, You need to work on your internet teasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 11:18 PM
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Not true at all. Just because someone is doing wrong doesn't mean it affects the friendship really. Some of my friends treat their parents like shit, and I don't like it, but that doesn't mean that I'll end the friendship over it. I wouldn't expect that he want to stay friends after I stab him in the back. If you're backstabbing your friend because they do something wrong, such as cheating then you're not a very good friend, you're betraying the very people who have been there for you for years.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 11:17 PM
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You are not using a widely accepted definition of feminism. When I say I'm not a feminist, I mean that I don't think there are any areas of society inaccessible to women that would justify further change in society. we work around it. Bluepillers are the misogynists If your complaint is that I'm not a red piller, your are on the wrong sub. This sub is a place for red pillers and non red pillers to debate. If you don't want to talk with non reds find a sub that isn't about debating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 11:10 PM
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Telling on him would be backstabbing his best friend Yeah, I wouldn't expect that he want to stay friends after that. But I would feel justified in backstabbing him because he was doing wrong. How can he treat the girlfriend as his own sister? The emotional investment isn't there I don't need an emotional investment to recongize she doesn't deserve to get cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 11:03 PM
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Continuing our discussion here, come on dude. Even if you somehow reconcile TRP and feminism, virtually all reds are anti feminism. This shouldn't be something to get your hackles raised over.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 10:54 PM
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Yeah, I wouldn't necessarily end the friendship. They advice I didn't agree with. But I do think it is completely fair to tell on him, and to treat the stranger as his sister in this instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 10:51 PM
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The degree to which those things are bad varies massively. Most people would tattle on their friend for murder but not cheating, and there's a reason for that. Friendships are strong and can take a lot but there's always a line. And that's completely understandable, it's a scale and you might not always side one way. But the question is the same in all cases, just with just different weights. If you want to protect every stranger who gets wronged then that says a lot about your views on friendsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 10:48 PM
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... what? You're a red piller.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 10:42 PM
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There is a comparison. They are all bad things. Obviously different, and you might draw a line between them. But the examples are arbitrary to the overall point. I would rather tattle on a friend doing wrong then let a stranger get hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 10:40 PM
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Mmmm, you never have to go back too far in time to find a thread like this. I can't hate on you too much because a ton of other people make a threads like this. But I must wonder why it keeps coming up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 10:37 PM
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The issue is that the sub told the OP to tell the person being cheated on over his best friend, It's a question of loyalty versus ethics. And I really don't see how you can dismiss favoring ethics so readily. If my friend was doing a bad thing, I would be tempted to narc on him. Be that bad thing cheating, stealing, it killing people. Stopping a person from doing wrong is more important than defending a friend. And just because I'm not related to or close to a person doesn't make them less valua…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 10:36 PM
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I have to wonder what the point of this thread is. We have ones like them so often, and they never seem to go anywhere. Except for that one time all the women hated on an overly muscular body, and some guy got pretty update. Said that we couldn't even conceive of getting a guy that sexy, or something like that. That was fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 10:28 PM
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Maybe I dodged a bullet then.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 09:34 PM
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Pretty much, yeah. Or at least that was the question when I wrote the OP. Now I'm wondering how many reds are actually open to opposing information, or would they bury their head in the sand as deep as in needs to believe to disregard any evidence to the contrary. Because that seems to be the message, that their ideas are literally unfalsifiable and they will disregard any amount of evidence to the contrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 09:33 PM
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Hypothetically.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 09:30 PM
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Alright then. I don't see anywhere left for this discussion to go. Unless you have anything else to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 09:20 PM
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In this instance, I'm using 'unicorn' to mean 'women who does not follow female nature as described by TRP'.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 09:17 PM
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We can't exactly read the base code of people we interact with. So based entirely on a woman's behavior, what would you need to see to make you suspect that she is running with a different OS?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 09:16 PM
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Let's talk about combination of events today are reasonable to happen (no kidnapping and brainwashing). Do you really think that literally all, every single women in the world, would be like that? Is there anything that you could witness to make you think that in this instance she is not like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 09:14 PM
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inevitable AWALT behavior But what if, hypothetically, that behavior never happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 09:11 PM
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I'm not talking about things like setting boundaries or exercise, or even things like protecting yourself from the law. Some parts of TRP are meant to help you directly, but other parts are about how to treat women to get the kind of response you want out of them. I'm asking when you start to suspect that your ideas on female nature or not true in this instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 09:10 PM
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Give me an example dialogue that shows amused mastery and I'll show you a way to gracefully to call it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 09:05 PM
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What part of this part do you think is relevant to mine, and how so?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 09:01 PM
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There are good women, as there are good men. But we are what we are, it doesn't change because we refrain from acting on it. If a woman never acts 'like that, how can you say they are 'like that'? Every man has the potential to act like a rapist, but only the men who act it out are rapists. Bro, she's not fucking you because she doesn't think you're that attractive anymore. So your friend follows your advice, starts lifting and whatever else he needs for you to think he is more attractive. His w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 09:00 PM
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Care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 08:53 PM
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Are you saying that literally every single women in the world is 'like that'?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 08:04 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 07:48 PM
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Ah, it is has a discussion flair which threw me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 07:42 PM
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Disrespectful, yeah. I wouldn't say morally wrong though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 07:08 PM
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You know, that exact thing happened to me, expect he was 19. And I think it was actually illegal. Looking back on it, it doesn't seem right. A bit slimy on his part. But not that bad, all on all. I wouldn't say that he raped me or that I didn't have agency or anything. More just that he has no business sleeping with freshmen in highschool when he was a freshman in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/18 06:48 PM
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I'm kinda drunk right now, but no. The only way other people can judge you (and decide "who" your are) is through your actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 04:38 AM
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I dig it. I wouldn't want to do anything else. I'd rather be eternally single rather than share a guy. I will say that our natural state is an unknown. There is reason to think we might have been somewhat polygynous but to what extent of any real extent is unknown. Also, I think it's pretty fucking obvious that we can be happy either way (on a cultural level anyway). Some societies are polygynous and the people are fine and happy with it. Other cultures are function find with monogamy. There's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 07:10 PM
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But time and experience heals those wounds of rape and cheating. Sometimes, sometimes not. I've seen guys fucked up for years after the fact. Just realize your potential dating pool has now shrunk by 99%. Have fun. 99%? Nah, maybe ten percent. Not that many people get cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 04:13 PM
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In some parts of the world yes, but not in the US. There are no rights unique to men nor positions in society only they can hold.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 03:56 AM
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I'm blue pill because I don't think TRP has anything of value and that men and women are mentally very similar. I'm not a feminist because I don't believe there is a patriarchy or that women are oppressed in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 11:04 PM
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I am a non feminist blue pill woman. Truthfully I think this is related more to my firm, child free stance than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 10:28 PM
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If a women isn't ready to be a mother, she shouldn't be having sex. Pregnancy is a natural consequence is sex. You haven't ever heard those lines from the pro life movement?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 10:25 PM
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Parenthood is never forced on anyone. It is the natural consequence of having unprotected sex. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. My point was that I don't think people should be parents unless you want to be. Also, birth control can fail, and people can lie about using it. Everyone has agency to choose to not have unprotected sex if they wish to avoid the potential consequences. Which is why I specified post conception. We live in a world where choosing to have sex and choosing to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 10:23 PM
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When a woman becomes pregnant, she should have have to disclose pregnancy to the man who put it there. He then has the option to opt out VIA contract (male abortion). I'm more inclined to have it be an opt in system. Or the else the woman could conceal her pregnancy to have him not opt out when he otherwise would have.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 07:18 PM
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Alright, I'll bite. I do believe in legal parental surrender. So I think men should have to agree to be a father before they are legally held accountable. If the woman gets knocked up and wants to keep the baby but he doesn't, she is on her own. Now, to address a few points you made. I don't believe this because women get the final say to abort. I believe that parenthood shouldn't be forced on people, and so I support legal parental surrender and abortion. No, it's not a popular opinion and even…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 06:55 PM
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If a relationship has such deep issues then it makes more sense to end it. End it, yes. End it by cheating? No. I do not think cheaters have poor impulse control they just want to cheat. They either are huge bitches or regular bitches with poor impulse control.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 02:58 AM
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I think this mostly applies to serious relationships, which most high school relationships (and virtually all earlier relationships) are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 02:12 AM
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>Naw. Being cheated on is damaging until your next decent relationship. If the relationship wasn't serious, sure. But if we are talking about your girlfriend of many years, no. That is not easy to get over.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 02:11 AM
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> However, that actually makes them better partners. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it is much more likely that they will become worse partners. > Women don't want doormats -- they want strong assertive guys. They want guys in the middle. Being cheated on is more likely to make you controlling, something which is distinctly not good. > When a Blue Pill guy's world comes crashing down on him he has to do some introspection. If he wants to survive he has to change. Introspection as in self pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 02:10 AM
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"To some degree"? I agree that there are gray areas, but come on. Bonafide, PIV, cheating isn't that common.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 02:07 AM
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No, rape is much more damaging. But we don't need to compare them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 02:06 AM
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> Most of the men that I know that are super jealous, clingy and paranoid did not get that way by being cheated on. They have preexisting issues relating to their upbringing or chemical imbalances in the brain. It's not the only cause of those issues, but it often does cause them. Most of A leads to B, but most of B are not from A. > In the aggregate men who have been cheated on should statistically be worse prospects than men who haven't been cheated on. However I don't think it's a good criter…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 02:05 AM
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Very fair point, I completely agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 02:02 AM
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As usual, I hate the red pill undertones, but the point isn't completely wrong. Sometimes cheating is because of deeper issues in the relationship that the other partner helped build. But often (IIRC more often even) the cheating is because of relationship issues, but rather the cheater just being a shitty person with poor impulse control.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 02:01 AM
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I don't mean to be a hater, but your comment is a bit hard to understand. Are you saying that my judgement is more damaging than the actual cheating? Because I call bullshit there, especially if you don't even know the woman doing the judging.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 01:59 AM
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> I can assure you that everyone has experienced events in life at least as traumatic as being cheated on. Two things here. One, no, that's just not true. Maybe so when you get into your midlife and beyond and your parents start dying off. But people in 20's and many still in their 30's haven't had anything that traumatic happen. Two, I'm talking about trauma in a romantic relationship. A parent dying doesn't shake your view of yourself in a relationship or security in other parents like cheatin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 01:57 AM
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Yep. Rape is usually more traumatic, but that doesn't invalidate the trauma from getting cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 01:53 AM
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Maybe I'm just speaking for myself here, but a ten point scale is way too much resolution. Men can be catagorized into one of three buckets; particularly ugly, unnoteworthy, and particularly attractive. The bulk of eligible men are unnoteworthy, probably 90%. By 'eligible men' I mean men who the the appropriate age. By 'unnoteworthy' I mean they simply don't hold my attention or are cause for a double take. I would be open to dating them (if I was single anyway) but unless they hit on me, I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 10:14 PM
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If you prefer, the next chapter is all about marriage demographics.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 11:20 PM
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but it sure looks like the share of remarried women is increasing with time, and is much higher than 44%. Hm, good point. IIRC, women are more likely to actually remarry than men, despite being less open to it. I should double check that stat, but I'm pretty sure I read that. I wonder what leads to the discrepancy. Maybe it's one of those things that they are opposed to in principle but when there is a guy they like that wants it they are willing to change their tune. it's hard to say because wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 10:09 PM
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Just to emphasize what others are saying, most men do not work physically demanding jobs. You can see the sector sizes here with the biggest sectors being professional/business, retail, medical services, and government jobs. Mining, construction, and utilities combined do not even come close to the size of any one of those large sectors.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 09:31 PM
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I legitimately have no idea what you are trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 09:15 PM
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Divorced women are a lot more hesitant to jump into a new marriage than men. I would be very curious to know why. It could be that women had a worse time in the marriage, but I'm skeptical. IIRC, women really aren't that less satisfied with their marriage than men. My guess would be it depends on how the marriage ends. Men are more likely to cause the end of their marriage by cheating, abusing a substance, or abusing their wife/child. Women also tend to financially take a worse blow from divorce…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 09:14 PM
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And for non-Redpillers, do you think that these equivalents are just as wrong as AWALT? They have the same capacity to be wrong. It depends on what exactly they are though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 08:37 PM
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God I want a housekeeper. It doesn't require a lot of a actual time, but it can be hard to stay on top of it when you work a full time job. It's definitely one of the first things I'm going to get when I'm done with grad school.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 06:05 PM
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What makes them so high value?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 01:50 AM
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The men that I value highly do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 12:22 AM
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The career of a woman is far down the list in what high value men look for in women Shared interested and ambitious certainly are not. High value men generally look for feminine and submissive women, and career focused women tend to be less submissive and more masculine Trad con men look for that. Trad con is not the same thing as high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 11:07 PM
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Most husbands aren't so afriad of divorce they let their wives do anything they want. And most couples at least make some comments about their thoughts on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 11:04 PM
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Sure, look at page 7 and 8 in this report for data on divorce rates and education. Here's a Pew report on marriage. You can go to the section called 'Gender, Education and Marriage' for the details. I guess well educated women are only slightly more likely to be married, with there being largely no difference between groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 11:00 PM
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Feminine, conservative, women seeking high status man who makes more than her. Which I realize isn't necessarily RP, but it fits much more with RP than the typical BP on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 10:33 PM
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Most women care enough about their husbands to not disregard his wishes to that extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 10:29 PM
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Do you really want me to mansplain how peer pressure works for women? Not mansplain, I want to man-prove it. Agreeable people hate to make waves, peer pressure is the biggest influencer on decisions, and women tend to be agreeable You can be agreeable by not arguing with people, but still not following their advice. I really don't buy that most women would be that sensitive to peer pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 10:28 PM
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The evidence didn't support this though. Educated women (who generally go on to have careers) are more just as likely to get married and less likely to divorce than uneducated women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 10:23 PM
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Believe it or not, but most women do care about their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 10:16 PM
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We might have to agree to disagree on that, unless you have some evidence in hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 10:16 PM
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I object to the red pill undertones, but agree with the idea. Maybe it is just my career, but scientists like to marry other scientists. Worked well for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 10:12 PM
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This line So women always choose the top brackets. Lead me to believe otherwise. Women will choose the highest bracket they can. But if they are looking value themselves, they won't get to choose from the top brackets.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 09:53 PM
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And the husband can then give push back that a third party woman cannot. I do think that there are more women who want to SAH than men who want to support them. And if that is the spirit of if your post, I cannot disagree. But it seems pretty obvious to me that this matter is between a husband and wife, not two women. If a woman said that I ought to be SAH I can laugh and ignore her with no issue. If my husband said he wants me to SAH that would be an entirely different issue that would need to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 09:51 PM
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I'm not sure if this is challenging your view enough, but the thing is that women (mostly) don't date other women. A woman might want to be a SAHM, and she might think less of working women, but she doesn't get a say about if another woman be will SAH. That's really only men, since staying at home is something to be worked out with your husband, not the nosey neighbors.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 09:30 PM
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The assailant most likely will never exist, and the bodily autonomy comes in when you expect women to do things they do not want to nor have an obligation to. Assumedly, your care about bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 09:03 PM
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I don't think it's too much to ask for women to have at least a rudimentary understanding of self defense. I think it is, by virtue of bodily autonomy. If a women feels secure enough with the measures she has already taken, why should she have to learn self defense?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 08:46 PM
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But I probably won't get attacked. But I will miss out on those things if I don't pursue them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 08:44 PM
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Monogamy is the standard with the vast majority of couples being monogamous. When it comes to LTR, women do not share men. So only the top ten percent of women get the top ten percent of men. Same with the top fifty, and the top 90%. I agree that there will always be incels, but it's not due to lack of available women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 08:43 PM
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Enjoying life. Building a career. Having hobbies. Finding love. Raising a family. Hell, if we want to get into it, chances are much higher that you kill yourself through poor lifestyle choices than someone else killing you. Cancer, heart disease, diabetes, liver or kidney failure are all big killers. Pretty sure they are bigger than violent crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 08:28 PM
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Does anyone here deny there are physical differences? It's pretty obvious that there is. But that doesn't mean there is vast biologically rooted mental differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 08:24 PM
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Being a competent fighter requires a lifetime of refinement in regards to technique and dedication, it's nothing something you can wrap up and graduate in a few months. Seems like time that could be better invested on other things. Unless you make violence your livelihood, that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 08:22 PM
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It does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 08:05 PM
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Yet a vast majority do absolutely nothing to change their helplessness. That, I call bullshit on. I don't know of any woman who isn't at least somewhat mindful of their safety. I think I'm the most careless woman I know of in that regard, and I do not at all complain about my helplessness. Story time, I had a male friend who was at a bar one night. He got incredibly drunk and while very drunk got hit on hard by an older woman. For reference, he was mid 20's. This woman sperated him from his more…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 08:00 PM
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Maybe I'm more tolerant because I've been in Special Ed for a speech disorder for my entire childhood. I've associated a lot with disabled kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 11:58 PM
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Mostly they would need you to drive and maybe read packages and mail. That wouldn't be that big of a deal. As long as it was clear that he was independent I wouldn't be all that put off.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 10:43 PM
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So, what, I am suppose to volunteer to be a guys full-time caretaker because vagina? Seems like an awfully entitled attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 10:42 PM
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Depending on the disability and how well you function, it can be a very big turn off. I don't want to be your care taker, that's the big thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 09:41 PM
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Do you mean ITT? Or are you keeping tabs on who the former sluts are?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 07:48 PM
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I don't understand the question. As in cheated by having casual sex with a different man while in a relationship? Or just asking if he has casual sex at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 06:46 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 04:47 PM
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Citation? The studies I've seen generally imply a slight difference, if any, in some particular cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 04:47 PM
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Hey, all OP did was talk about his beliefs. There only kind of evidence he presented was a vaguely related, possibly made up story.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 04:45 PM
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I came here to say pretty much just this. Also of note is that women were essentially property for a long time, going from their father's/brother's care to their husband. The earnings they did make were considered their male guardian's rather than theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 04:42 PM
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But you fail to realize one thing: TRP is bullshit and largely wrong. Women are men's intellectual and moral equals, but most reds fail to respect this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/18 08:39 PM
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Weak doesn't equal useless. I have to exert more effort to do the same things that my boyfriend does with relative ease. But I still do those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 07:43 PM
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It's two extremes that can suck for either gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 04:10 AM
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Nah, not really. Expect maybe the baby thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/18 12:45 AM
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I don't know about double standards, but here are some things that I have about being a women. I'm expected to like babies/kids. I don't. They are gross and annoying, and I want nothing to do with them. Makeup/dress up. I don't care about either. But women like to dole out compliments about it regardless of how you actually look. I guess it's a thing to help bond and make friends. Anyway, it's weird when I roll in with no makeup, bed head, baggy jeans, and a ratty old T shirt and they tell me ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 09:37 PM
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No idea if this was brought up, but I was recently trying to find that stat about happiness. I found one source that showed a very mild decrease that I'm not even sure is significant. I should look into some more and see if this entire claim is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 09:20 PM
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I mean, I think it's pretty obvious [what this is in reference to]: The general overarching social narrative. I get that is the topic, but how is it relevant to the discussion at hand? OP posted an article about women hating their modern lives, you wanted to know the reaction, and I gave mine. I don't see how the victim complex of 'men getting bullied by society' plays in.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 09:01 PM
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If you "don't know if you're average" or "who is average" you're an outlier. I guess I'll just go to my sad little corner under the automod...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 08:56 PM
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Sorry to disappoint you, but no one here is interested in being "educated" by you. Regardless of how confident you are, people need to believe that you are a source of education before you can educate them. And you have no creditability, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 03:10 AM
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I have no desire to educate you. You would be debating me, not educating me. Which is fine if you don't want to, but don't take the belittling tone. Lack of regulation was a small contributor yes, but that's not all. Dumb people borrowing shit they can't pay back was the real cause. High levels of debt also played a role. It was a combination of things. But again, I don't see any reason why a worse economic crisis is on the horizon.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 11:40 PM
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If you can't see the signs of social decay all around you then you're simply blind. What are the signs? I haven't seen anything that would convince me society as we know it is coming to an end. The financial crisis of 2008 was merely a prelude to a future crisis of such a large magnitude that printing money won't fix the problem. The recession was caused by poor oversight and lack of regulation of shit mortgage. I don't see any reason to think a worse version has yet to come.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 11:20 PM
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What makes you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 10:45 PM
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It's a chain of cause and effect. I pointed to one link, you pointed to another, call it a red herring if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 10:05 PM
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Democracy and liberty for all is relatively new but not going away anytime soon. You can't take away or education any easier than taking away black people's right to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 09:56 PM
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You think her complaints stem primarily from the fact she has a career? She says she was raised to be ambitious, which lead her to higher education, which lead her to a career, which lead get to developing masculine traits. It's her masculine traits that she puts the blame directly on, but other factors lead to them such as her career. I'm really not sure the point you are trying to make her. What I said about "building a career" also stands for "developing masculine traits". I'm glad that I dev…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 09:44 PM
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Fuck that. If a woman chooses wrong in her life, that is her own problem. But I'm damn happy getting my degree and I don't ever want kids. Fact is, when you start barring people from education or worse yet, force them to have kids, you are just asking for a social upheaval.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 09:33 PM
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Okay. What is this in reference to?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 06:39 PM
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Which she blames her career for. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 06:38 PM
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I wonder what the feminist response to this will be - who does she think she is, saying they can't have it all and that men and women need each other? That problematic bitch, rocking the boat. Not a feminist, but am blue pill. A, I'm pretty sure this was written by a man. Or possibly a SAH wife. But not by the women they claim they are. B, not everyone wants a career, that's cool. But financial independence is smart. Even if you don't plan on being full time forever, having the ability to get a …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 05:28 PM
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I share this suspicion. She talks about how career driven and passionate she was but no mention is the slightest of what she actually does. Lawyer? Doctor? CEO? No hint. If I woke up tomorrow and decided I wasted my life building a career, I would talk about how awesome I thought my career was. How hard I worked in school. I also wouldn't be so absolutely sure that a man would fix my problems. It would be uncertain. I'm not saying saying with that worldview don't exist. Obviously they do, just g…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 05:16 PM
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Alex Jones? Is that you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/18 08:17 PM
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Even if OP didn't plan for it, it's going to turn into one. It always does.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 08:21 PM
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Fuck the children, I don't want to be a SAHM.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 10:31 PM
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I don't understand why OP or anyone else here would give a fuck. He's a dude, I like him. You've never him. What of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 07:51 PM
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I don't have any data on hand but heated testicles does have some very solid theory behind it. Testicles are away from the body because you need a lower temp to produce sperm, raise the temp and no sperm. But you would need a continuously high temp for at least a few days. They make special underwear for the purpose, I forget if they did any studies on them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 06:52 AM
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Fat guys are gross. I wouldn't want to date one and no women should be obligated to. Fat women are also gross and the same goes for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 06:07 AM
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I'm pretty sure it exists, I've seen it referenced plenty in literature. I believe it is in the National Survey of Families and Households. I'll try to find a citation for you, just give me a few.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 07:01 PM
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That SAHMs were more likely to get out of the house and be part of the community.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 06:53 PM
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Citation?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 06:38 PM
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Under automod because I clearly don't agree with it. But it's what I hear most often.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 06:37 PM
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Since no one else here has said it, I'll go ahead and throw the idea out. Usually when I see a red make this claim, they refer to self reported happiness dropping in women since the 50s. They correlate that with women working and assume causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 06:27 PM
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The bathroom maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 06:48 AM
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But you averting your eyes is impossible? I can, and do. But I still know it is there and it still bothers me. I'd rather they do that in private. It seems like you’re asking a lot of women in a situation you know nothing about, just to avoid some slight discomfort on your part. It's common courtesy. I don't have to know your life story to want you have common courtesy. Just like how I might feel uncomfortable holding in a fart doesn't give me the undisputed right to fart out in public. Have you…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 06:48 AM
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Jesus, has anybody on this sub even seen a breastfeeding woman in public? Most women are very subtle, wear accessible clothing and usually drape a spitty cloth over the whole proceedings. Sure I have. And I generally see nipple. Now, this might be selection bias; I don't notice the secret discreet ones. And if I don't notice it I can't complain. But those aren't the ones I'm talking about. I'm talking about the ones that I do notice, no cover or any of that. Just a loose boob and a baby going at…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 06:38 AM
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and if you don’t have a bottle Make sure that you have a bottle so the situation doesn't come up? choose not to use one because you already have a perfectly suitable feeding apparatus right there? Well, it's not perfectly suitable if it is so controversial, is it? I'm not a mother. I don't know the full practicalities that go into it. But it does make me very uncomfortable and I wish women wouldn't do it. Between having bottles and going into the restroom to feed them, I'm sure it's possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 04:21 AM
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Keep a bottle around?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 02:01 AM
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How much is the change due to age itself or previous children though?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 02:01 AM
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They had their baby at work. I don't know why.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 12:47 AM
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Well that's a leak in logic. I'm all his, through and through.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 12:46 AM
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I can tune out crying babies easily. They really aren't any more offensive to me than people talking on phone or traffic. But breasts are hard to tune out. Even if you don't look, you know it's there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 12:44 AM
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Nah, I'm done grading. Thanks for keeping me company with that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 12:32 AM
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When I think of public breast feeding I think of in restaurants, offices, parks... I had one co-workers breast feed in the break room and it made me rather uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 12:32 AM
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Screaming baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 12:30 AM
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The latter. Good to hear. No. Then I guess we are done here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 12:28 AM
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One, when you say "more justified" do you mean it is "okay" or "still not okay but not as bad"? Two, can you address my point that the chance of illegitimate offspring is not the only thing that makes cheating bad? That violation of trust and hurt feelings also play a big role?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 12:21 AM
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Call me a shitlord, but I am not comfortable with public breast feeding. I really don't want to see my coworkers nipples.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 12:11 AM
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Why are we talking about you? As a proxy to women in general. If you don't think my views are representative say so, though I think this is pretty standard stuff. Women can ensure parentage, men have to wonder. Yep, men need to take it on faith (or get a DNA test). But why do you think that being cucked is the only reason cheating would be bad? Because that's absolutely not true. Cheating is low So do you agree that men cheating is bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 12:08 AM
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It's the leading theory, seems reasonable. Apes signal sexual availability with swollen asses, but we evolved to be bipedal. So we evolved chest-butts. Nature!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 12:04 AM
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I said women know who the mother is. The issue is that I really don't buy that is the long and short of it. It's true that women can be sure they are the mother. But it's not true that makes male cheating okay. You reframed my statement to focus on your feelings, Because feelings are highly relevant in relationships. How my actions make my man feel is vitally important to the wellbeing of the relationship. Cheating does leave people feeling sucky, a woman feels sucky because women are selfish an…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 11:58 PM
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Breasts are secondary sexual characteristics. The size of human breasts are completely unnecessary, and larger breasts don't produce more milk or anything like that. They are likely entirely a signal to attract mates, much like large asses in other primates. Breasts will be continue to be sexualized, and that's just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 11:51 PM
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The emotional response of the partner getting cheated on is irrelevant? That's news to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 11:47 PM
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Somehow that doesn't do much to make me feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 11:17 PM
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Eh, I'll just delete the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 09:31 PM
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They is as I understood as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 10:35 PM
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This is why we need legal parental surrender.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 08:50 PM
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All of this applies to single dads too. Absolutely, I don't consider them good prospects either. The fact that you hate kids doesn’t make single moms bad prospects as a rule LOL If a guy doesn't want kids at that point in their life, which is a lot of them, single mothers are very bad prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 08:49 PM
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Since when are we so worried about triggering people with microagressions on here?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 08:34 PM
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Having a phase in a relationship to be a couple without kids is great. The father is likely to be a source of bullshit Kids in general suck
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 08:12 PM
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Why is what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 02:28 AM
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Hmm, this thread has potential. Good job OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 12:57 AM
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But still not fun in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 12:46 AM
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Alright. Seems like an odd comparison but whatever. I just objected to saying that single dad's are in any way "fun".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 12:18 AM
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Okay? I'm not dating you, so your preferences don't matter to my relationship. It's cool if you don't want a career woman, but other men do. It just works for a lot of couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 12:11 AM
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Fixed what? Women will still be more interested in single dads than the reverse. Luckily for us women, we don't have to choose between either single mothers or single fathers. In fact, most of us aren't interested in women in general, so the relative attraction between the two doesn't really matter. Point is, single dad versus single, childless man is pretty easy to pick. The childless man, ten out of ten times. Also, note your silence on mybxlaim about single moms. Silence because I have nothin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 12:03 AM
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Single dad = fun. ABORT! ABORT! Fixed that for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 11:44 PM
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Should it? My fiance seems to prefer it when I pay half the bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 11:34 PM
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I can't speak for other women, but my fiance needs to do the dishes first.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 11:03 PM
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Well, why do you think they are scum?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 10:10 PM
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I'm not following your math with the weekend. About weekends: One day off a week. It's usually two days. 8 hours for sleeping let us with 16 hours. 2 hours and change for day. Two hours and change? You mean two hours to change clothes or something? Cause two hours to get into an outfit is a long time. One hour of parenting per day, With kids in the picture they will be in the background all day, which is why I say no kids. one hour for your partner. If we have 16 waking hours, one goes to kids, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 08:22 PM
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I realize that OP painted reds with broad of a brush. I agree with you that many reds don't care about women having careers, and others just don't want that kind of family structure. However... Red pill men that "hate" career women dont really hate them. They just know they are not good enough as partners and mothers. I think that you are portraying reds too kindly here. Even if the ideal red isn't hateful, many actual reds are. There are plenty of reds that are legitimately hateful of career wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 07:56 PM
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I would love a rule against fighting strawman. A lot of threads on here turn into a non starters because no one actually agrees with the views being attacked. I think that the bar of "remotely RP/BP" should be pretty low. As long as someone on a place affiliated with that group says it, it should be okay. Just something to make people put some effort into investigating the opposing view before attacking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 07:38 PM
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The luck factor comes in when you decided to date her. Some women might leave you for showing weakness, others won't leave so readily. It can be hard to know who is who, so you can be unlucky in picking fickle women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 04:10 PM
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I'm definitely not lying You know if you are lying or not. I don't. Maybe you are, maybe your aren't. I don't know. Unlucky? A terrible girl? I find it funny how difficult it is for some of you to accept that this can really happen. You know, when I say that you might be unlucky or she is a terrible girl, I'm saying that it might have really happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 06:51 AM
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Just when they extrapolate their viewpoint to "women in general" So how exactly is my process different than any typical red piller? Or anyone, really? Are you saying that you never make any conclusions about the world based on your experiences? claim you're lying if you have experience to the contrary. Good thing I never claimed that then. Come on, do you really think that of the posts on the topic, not a single one is made up? None at all? Because people lie on the internet. They lie for littl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 06:48 AM
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So it didn't happen to you nor did you see it IRL, therefore you can't see how it could happen. It's not something I see very often, so I doubt it happens on as wide of a scale as TRP claims. You know how a lot of reds talk about watching what people do, not what they say? And pay attention to how relationships around you work? Yeah, it's that. Only my experiences run counter to TRP. It did happen to me more than once(and a non-trivial amount of others here), so we're just all lying? I'm sure so…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 10:19 PM
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So is anything a woman says that you disagree with solipsism now? Just checking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 09:10 PM
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I don't think women in general lose attraction if a guy shows a mild to moderate level of weakness/distress. That's just not believable to me, doesn't fit reality. I'm sure some women do that, and it's possible for whatever reason some men mostly only date such women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 09:09 PM
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I made a comment in the automod that is relevant to your question. This is one of those topics I would love to see play out in real life. Because what I read just doesn't compute. Most women don't leave their SO just because they need meds for depression. I think one of three things is happening. Their relationship is weak to start with. Either she isn't that interested to start with or has been having doubts already. Maybe the relationship was young when he started to dump emotional baggage on …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 08:02 PM
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Being stoic in and of itself is not the issue. The issue is when your try to be stoic but end up harming yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 07:58 PM
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That post is clearly referring to the red pill and we do not use your dictionary definition and you pretty well know. You mean OP? Because I am the OP and I did not mean it in reference to TRP. Let aside that the ability to endure pain isn't really bad. The legitimate ability to endure pain is great. The issue is when people try to be stoic but cannot easily do so, so they turn to harmful things like substance abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 07:57 PM
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i'm sorry...you think [violence and substance abuse] are examples of someone being stoic? did you just learn to read They can be the product of trying to be stoic. also, citation [that men are significantly more likely to abuse substances]? Sure, here you go. Page 87 in particular shows that among adults men are twice as likely to abuse substances. And it's relevant because substance abuse is often a way to numb negative feelings, making it often an example of toxic masculinity. And men do it mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 04:27 PM
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It's a dictionary definition, and even the more common one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 03:52 PM
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Ergo all masculinity is toxic according to that definition, as long as you stretch definition of "harm" enough. There are gray areas, yes. But that doesn't invalidate the concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 03:51 PM
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Is your post a show of genuine concern for men? I would think otherwise. You think correctly. My post is about entertaining myself. I notice there is a lot of controversy around toxic masculinity and thought it would liven up my day. Men can do whatever they want. I'm not that upset by their higher rates of substance abuse and homelessness. But I think it makes for good debates about why it is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 03:50 PM
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Toxic to whom? By definition, harmful to themselves out others. Why is it something that has stayed with humanity for eons, yet for some reason, is just detrimental? Environment changes, as does our notion of masculinity. We didn't always have substances to abuse, our society didn't always disfavor violence, and not every man avoids emotions to a harmful extent. So long as you believe that traits that are solely male are toxic, It's not that they are solely male traits. They are societal views o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 03:32 PM
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it basically resembles a dumbed down version of what stoicism means Stoicism can mean the philosophy, or it can mean in the colloquial sense. I'm using it entirely in the colloquial sense. I'm making no comment on stoicism as a philosophy or it's followers. That simply isn't part the equation here. it also serves as a way to attack people who act stoic (consciously or not) by ascribing a simpler dumber motivation. I'm also not saying that everyone who acts stoic is like this. I'm saying that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 02:23 PM
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Regardless of what you call it, many men end up there when they don't want to express negative emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 03:36 AM
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I replied to that comment already. Before you made this comment even.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 03:20 AM
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There's harmful and non harmful ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 03:19 AM
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How is it a strawman? It's a real concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 03:18 AM
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I'm not referring to stoicism, the philosophy, I'm referring to the general definition, this enduring pain and hardship without showing one's feelings or complaining. Most men don't know anything about the philosophical stance, much less care too follow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 02:25 AM
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See Poppy's response. I'm using this definition of stoicism. Stoicism: the endurance of pain or hardship without a display of feelings and without complaint.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 01:31 AM
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The toxicity comes in when you deal with the emotions from hardship is a detrimental way, such as abusing drugs, instead of openly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 01:14 AM
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Also I use drugs because they're cheap fun, but I guess you were talking about abusing them, and I don't think I fit that criterion. Yeah, I'm specifically talking about abusing substances, not just using them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 12:11 AM
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People here read it as “all masculinity is toxic” as opposed to the context the actual term was used in and the extent that it is rarely used in any contemporary/relevant movements. And that is what makes it good grounds. It's ripe with disagreements. People have strong opinions about what toxic masculinity means, and I'd much rather debate things that people feel strongly about.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 12:00 AM
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Some women will punish men for not being stoic. Being stoic can often be detrimental itself. So some men might have a narrow window, or no window at all, of ways to express emotions. My solution is to not date women who are intolerant of appropriate levels of emotions in men. And we do exist, which I suspect will be your next point. So long as you don't enter into the realm of toxic feminity and overly emotional, most women will be okay with your expressing negative emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 11:58 PM
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Which is why, in part, I'm choosing to use it. I never use the phrase in real life. Only here because I think it is good grounds for debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 11:54 PM
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And, I would argue, turning to substance abuse as a way to deal with negative emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 11:27 PM
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Yeah, I do it a lot too, out of nervousness or boredom. Maybe the idea is that she is nervous that she is talking to a cute guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 10:20 PM
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Of course women show IOIs. If a woman says that you are cute and should hang it some time, she is indicting her interest. I think your question is more if something like touching their hair is an IOI. Which is harder to say and pretty context dependent. That will have to be left to the non autistic of us to decide.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 07:30 PM
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Uh huh. And why were the police upset?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 07:05 PM
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Going to meet with my attorney for the first time in an hour. Just getting a prenup, but I wonder what all he'll say.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 06:44 PM
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What am I looking at?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 06:19 PM
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Yeah, I just found it. It's Norwegian so I'm weary that the actual paper won't be in English. In the meantime, there are several questions that I'd hope to answer with the data. One thing is if this childless figure is an actual represention of men who never biologically reproduced. Could it be men who are not active fathers but still have biological children? Could it be that they did have biological children without knowing? Such as if a woman had an unintended pregnancy and never told him. Or…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 05:12 PM
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It's really, really hard to say without taking a closer look at the data. And when I try to Google the quote you provided I get nothing. So can you share a citation so I can dig into the data?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 04:53 PM
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I love my cargo shorts and you will never take them away from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 11:30 PM
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This is one of those topics I would love to see play out in real life. Because what I read just doesn't compute. Most women don't leave their SO just because they need meds for depression. I think one of three things is happening. Their relationship is weak to start with. Either she isn't that interested to start with or has been having doubts already. Maybe the relationship was young when he started to dump emotional baggage on her. He is downplaying the issue. Instead of just taking some meds …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 11:26 PM
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People don't demand to know a guys height. It's just that it isn't taboo to ask because men tend to be less insecure about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 11:14 PM
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Am I the only one getting sick of the "these people that are not here think a certain way and I disagree" style threads? Maybe other people dig these topics but I just don't see the point in arguing against a stance that isn't held by anyone here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 11:01 PM
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Might be tricky as education really helps reduce the risk of divorce. Household income also reduces the risk of divorce, and by that virtue a working wife reduces the risk of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 07:49 PM
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How are you defining "best wife candidates"? Lowest risk of divorce? Willing to be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen? Willing to work and pay half the bills? By 27 years old half of women in general are married, so you can start from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 04:30 PM
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Shhh, just a teaspoon.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 07:03 AM
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I think that abundance mentality as interpreted literally is bad for either gender. Delusion isn't good and is going to be hard to maintain if not true. And simply convincing yourself that everyone wants you isn't going to make it true. But not getting emotionally invested in any single partner, or even having a partner in general, is great for either gender. You really shouldn't feel like you need another person for happiness, especially if that other person isn't someone close to you. It gives…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 07:01 PM
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This is super helpful for me too. But I still need to count calories as I can rack up quite the high score in a single sitting. Particularly if it is calorie dense. I like to have a light lunch or skip it entirely and just eat dinner. Often I follow ramadan rules and only eat at night, make a lot of volume with calorie light food, and eat like a pig.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 06:44 PM
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Its just banter bro lighten up This. I mean i didnt imply that but you did imply youre overweight If you are legitimately curious, no. No I'm not overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 12:12 AM
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You gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 11:53 PM
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I have a brash and crude sense of humor. I like my banter to have a bit of edge. I would respond well if you teased me about my weight because that's just my sense of humor. But be prepared to be called gay in response.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 03:45 AM
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A week? Holy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 03:42 AM
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I don't think any of the pregnancies were intentional.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 03:25 AM
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Yeah, mortgage is $600 a month, with insurance and utilities it is closer to $1000. Which I split 50/50 with my fiance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 12:08 AM
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Well if he's paying CS on 4 kids then he probably realizes he will never have a dime to his name. So why save. Saving would be a very big step for him. How about repairing his car or buying food to eat. Basic things in life. This guy didn't learn to use a condom after the first three kids. He's just cut and dry stupid. It would be interesting to see the break down in spending between married vs unmarried men. Most unmarried men i know seem pretty content with their Xbox and fishing pole Is imagi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 12:03 AM
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Fun thing is that we aren't that cheap. Other places like Tennessee or even Texas are cheaper than us. Check out this map. The most densely populated cities have freakishly, dysfunctionally high cost of living. But because so many people are crammed into them they tend to think it's the norm across the country. It's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 11:56 PM
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Maybe. My dad is on his third wife or something like that. They seem like they hate each other. He could be trying to buy happiness with his hobbies. I know another guy who is just an all around shit head but also horrible with money. Dude has three (maybe four, I forget) kids from casual sex, all with different women. He has to pay obscene amounts of child support every month, can't hold down a job, and whenever he manages to get money he'll spend it on something stupid like a new semi automati…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 11:48 PM
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People forget that LA and New York aren't typical for cost of living. I'm in Phoenix. Currently we own with a mortgage, not rent. When we did rent a house it was $400 for my share, probably came out to $550 or $600 after utilities. It was comfortably large, decent neighborhood. I had my own bedroom. When we were sharing a tiny two bedroom (800 sq ft) between three people my base rent was only $250. Uncomfortable at times but livable. So $500 really isn't that low for Phoenix. Food isn't that cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 11:37 PM
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It’s so far from my experience that it’s almost like role reversal trolling, Really? Male or female, most people suck with money. I'm sure you've seen men who spend money recklessly. I know plenty of them. And you can't imagine at least some of these men ending up with women that have better financial senses? there are actual stats for this, women are overwhelmingly the spenders Citation? It's not that I think it's a particularly hard to believe stance. But I haven't seen any stats on the topic …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 11:26 PM
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I think a lot depends on the cost of living in your location. I put away half of my earnings into savings and I make peanuts. I make $1,500 a month. Rent plus utilities (my half of them anyway) are $500. My grocery budget is something like $150. I end up spending very little on incidentals. Most of my spending money goes towards eating out and booze, which doesn't amount to much more than $100 a month if that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 11:19 PM
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Is it really that odd? Statistically I'm not sure which is more likely. But there are financially reckless men out there, and some of them date more frugal women. My dad and stepmom are like that. She's not particularly cheap, but he can easily blow tens of thousands of dollars on his hobbies and she'll complain about his spending.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 11:14 PM
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Keep in mind the context of the conversation I'm having. We are talking about whether or not marriage has always been gynocentric. I'm talking about marriage as it existed in the past, not the present. And in the past, children both outside of marriage were not legitimate, regardless of birth certificates. It's a pretty new thing for children to be considered legitimate without a marriage. Same thing with labor. Yeah, today you can cohabitate and share resources without marriage. 300 years ago, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:00 PM
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Getting hot here in Phoenix. Just starting to enter the triple digits. I'm sad to see winter go, but I'm ready for the heat. For summer is coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 04:52 PM
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They get legitimate children, something that only came from marriage. Legitimate children carry on the family name and in some culture care for you in old age. Men historically also got labor. Wives didn't just sit around all day getting all their needs met for nothing. They had to work too, helping the man in his profession. Women helped on farms, worked in factories, and ran stores to name a few things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 03:23 PM
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The men get labor and heirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:58 AM
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TIL whenever a man sees an elderly or disabled man they don't view them as people and would just assume to attack and bully them. I gotta say, all the men I know do a very good job concealing this fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 10:57 PM
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Well, if we are listing of personal anecdotes. I live with my fiance but pay for my half of all bills. I do not live off of his or any other man's money. For the last seven years (since I turned 18 and child support payments ended) my mother has been supporting herself entirely with no man, financial support from men, or welfare. My best friend (who is feminist-y) is working as a data scientist and entirely supporting herself with her job.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 05:13 PM
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Absolutely, also this. I've always had anxiety, even as a young child. It's certainly not because of my career. Going out into the real world and learning to deal with my anxiety had been the best thing for it. If I just stayed locked up in the house all day I'd still the nervous wreck I was when I was a teenager. But since moving away I've learned how to cope enough to go shopping, have a job, make doctor appointments, and so much more. I view my anxiety as just another obstacle in life to navi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:30 PM
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I'm dealing with my anxiety issues pretty well. Just because I have an anxiety disorder doesn't mean I am crippled by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:17 PM
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women aren't capable of dealing with the stress and competition of modern capitalist societies. I think I'm dealing with it pretty well. they should be staying at home playing with babies and nesting and baking cookies and doing arts and crafts projects and other enjoyable, relaxing activities. Sounds like a life I would hate. What kind of career is any a woman should pursue is a pretty personal choice. And not one that is a one size fits all sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:08 PM
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not sure it's more disabling for women. maybe even less so, given that our "conditioning" is generally to be more socially friendly and acceptable. meaning: we learn to cope, hide, and/or pass it off with at least some sort of finesse. Possibly relevant to your point is that the rates of social anxiety were the same for men and women. And that's where I think social skills would provide the most benefit, mitigating social anxiety. When you can't sleep because you're are afraid of a monster eatin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:06 PM
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Interesting indeed, though this isn't surprising given the other literature I've read on the topic. I don't have anything grandiose to say. I suppose this might explain some of the gender gaps we see today. Women are more anxious, less likely to be bold at work, don't earn the same raises as men, pay gap. Or, woken are more anxious, if caught committing a crime they are more corporative, more remorseful, less likely to do it again, explaining the sentencing gap. Both of those are spectulative bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 05:55 PM
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Most working class need two incomes just to get into the middle class. Financially you can get most of the benefits from an SO with a roommate. Throw children into the mix and this becomes even more true. Don't have bastard children. It's a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 01:57 AM
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If you're poor and miserable a relationship isn't going to fix your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 12:55 AM
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Allot of working class women do need men. For what, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 12:32 AM
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Upvote for the FMA reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 11:45 PM
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I think a lot of MGTOWs love the idea of women needing men, much more so than men need women. Which is why in their head single men are happy and single women are miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 11:02 PM
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I'm too drunk to read most of this, but from what I managed it seems like bullshit. I don't think there are a whole lot of natural leaders in the world. Or naturally supportive people. These are skills that people build as they see fit. And sometimes it is hard to turn a skill off if you have built it up. But you can build up some masculine skills but not others. Or have various other combos. What I'm saying is that being sexually assertive, leading, and whatever else you said doesn't always go …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 03:37 AM
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I can, however, insist that women in my life not act that way and remove them from my life if they do. And that's fine. Just as long as the women in question actually did that bad behavior. No man alive beats a woman for crying and gets away with it. Strawman in the extreme. I'm not saying that you do that (and so it's not a strawman). I gave an example that I'm sure you would agree with and one that you wouldn't agree with to show how broadly your statement can be interpreted. IMO, X can be any…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 07:59 PM
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stating women are different from men Not misogynistic. For example, eomen tend to like education as a profession now. Nothing wrong with that. setting out examples of women behaving badly Not misogynistic. Of course there are shitty women out there. Nothing wrong with pointing it out. I had a female student that literally cried about just about every exam and homework I graded, despite everyone having the same exam/problem set. That is an example of a woman behaving badly. Not misogynistic to sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 07:15 PM
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I have to call bullshit here. I believe that women are just as visual as men when it comes to who's fuckable or not. Women just have a harder time admitting that fact because goes against the women are wonderful narrative (which works to their advantage) and they're trying to save face and not appear shallow. Yeah, there's the aforementioned disbelief. There's a reason why the "women love bad boys" and the "nice guys finish last" trope exist. Think about that for a moment. Bad boys and nice guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 06:55 PM
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I don't want to circle jerk too much but They're really, really bad at describing lived female experiences. This stokes the fire of the anger phasers, for absolutely no reason. They just refuse to listen to women describe their own lives This is so true. They seem to greatly over estimate how many men there are floating around that want to be complete slaves and do our bidding. Also how we experience attraction. I'm sure some women experience it like they describe, but for most women it is a com…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 12:11 AM
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I'm not worried at all. I wouldn't want their ideas to become mainstream, but I really don't see that happening. Yes, this is entirely a source of amusement. I do not think I'm doing anything even mildly productive or helpful on here. This is something I do when I'm tired if video games or bored in a waiting room. Do you think any of their arguments are valid or hold some good point(s) worthy of discussion? Ehhh, not really. At least nothing that I can't get a better discussion with someone else…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 11:41 PM
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It's actually a pretty good rule of thumb. If males have to compete for females (which is the case if males can mate with multiple females) they have additional selective pressures that females do not. This creates secondary sexual charactistics. Something like 80% of birds are monogamous. Most birds have no difference between the sexes. Like penguins, albotroses, and pigeons to make a few. The ones with large color differences are more likely to be polygamous, including many birds of paradise. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 06:52 PM
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It's good to point out that sexual dimorphism is relatively minor in humans. Men are about 15% larger then women. Other great apes like including gorillas and orangutans have the males twice as big. Many species have males a different color or have other large differences (like face pads on orangutans). So yes humans have sexual dimorphism but to a lesser extent. The fact that males coexist in peace in a group also imply that sexual competition wasn't too extreme. This implies that we weren't st…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 05:32 PM
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Making his own bad decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 05:45 AM
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Is this comment suppose to be directed at me? It seems like it is. Assuming it is, I really think that along career driven women you'll find a lot of them apathetic about your rejections.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 07:15 PM
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And the ones that DO care are the ones I'll savor. Okay, just don't expect them. Also, please get it right; I'm purple pill leaning red because I follow my religion. Noted. Though when I talked about having revenge fantasies towards red I didn't mean to imply you were a red. And as far as "revenge fantasies" go, I'm good. Revenge is for people looking at the smaller picture. Really? Because what your are describing sounds a lot like a revenge fantasy. Wanting people with opposing beliefs than yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 07:13 PM
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I don't date women, so from my perspective it's just a really bad mistake that fucks up your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 07:06 PM
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That's where the bar for solipsism is these days? That's pretty low.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 07:04 PM
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Thanks to birth control it takes a bit more than that. A women either has to want a baby or be too short sighted/stupid to use birth control properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 06:23 PM
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I said my bit and you come along for little purpose other than to be petty. Off topic thread or no, this is a debate sub. Anything you say here is open for debate. If you have revenge fantasies of rejecting career women, that's one thing. I can't say I haven't entertained similar revenge fantasies about red pillers. But don't expect them to come to life. I bet that most career women that approach you won't care too much if you reject then for a home maker.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 04:59 PM
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Well, fortunately "most other women" don't have bastard children, But a shocking minority do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 04:55 PM
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Obviously incompatible. If they want a healer in their party and I'm a DPS then this just isn't going to work. I'm not going to be mad about the principle of the rejection, and if we weren't already dating then I'm not going to get upset about losing him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 04:45 PM
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Good for you. Notice that I used "radfems" rather than women. You all should know the type I'm talking about or at least the scenario. I know the archetype but I think you'll run into more people like me than that. Wasn't it you, Chemist, who posted about the negative reaction a man would get for preferring a SAHM? Now you're "Strong-independent woman, Need-no-manning" out here. I'll assume you're in a relationship. How are those things contradictory? You can be as uncaring as you want, but be r…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 05:41 AM
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I think I'm better than most other women, in part because I'm not a neurotic bitch. Also because I have good financial skills and no bastard children. I guess I just like myself. I think this phrase has become a quintessential sign of a bad personality type while not actually being that bad. It's just the association that is bad. Like saying I'm a strong, independent woman. Well, I am. But when a woman says today it conjures idea of a bitchy woman who demands the sun and moon, insists that she i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 12:15 AM
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I don't think they are against the rules. Which seems fair. If you are easily bothered by such things, this sub is not for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 12:06 AM
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God damn. Maybe we shouldn't be breeding them. Them, pugs, and manx cats just need to go extinct. And chickens, pigs, and cows but that's a different rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 12:00 AM
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I'm so giddy to imagine turning down accomplished, ambitious, career-driven radfems in favor of a dumb, worthless, baby-making "slave". As an accomplished, ambitious, career-driven woman, I really wouldn't care too much if a guy rejected me because of my career.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 11:58 PM
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Fallout 4. At least that is what I would play. I never beat FO4 but played through all endings for NV.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 09:09 PM
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Yeah, but you only rent, never buy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 08:39 PM
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Adopt, don't shop. Adopting a homeless dog could make the difference between it being put down and it living a happy, long life. All our animals have been rescues.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 06:54 PM
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Anyone can make any claim they want. There question is if it get any traction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 12:23 AM
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MeToo I really don't buy that most #metoo claims are attacking completely innocent men. If a guy isn't sleezy he doesn't have to work about it. guilty until proven innocent Obviously that's not legally true. And the court of public opinion has always had a lower bar for evidence. This isn't specific to men either, women suffer just the same from unjustified rumors. fact that people believe that women never lie Nobody thinks that. Ugly men are made fun of and bullied So are women. this website an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 11:55 PM
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It's a bit of a captive audience situation but as long as you can effectively read IOI (or lack thereof) it's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 07:02 PM
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Once in a while I stumble on a female blogger arguing that pursuing a woman in her workplace (like a store clerk) is wrong because she's forced to be nice with customers and she can't blow you off. I think that is a good example of one situation where you shouldn't be flirting. Even worse would be if you were the employee flirting with a customer.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 06:24 PM
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Nothing wrong with loving your mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 05:24 PM
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No. My morals chance with the stick (fear of bad things) rather than the carrot (hope of good things).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 04:40 PM
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Then I wouldn't need the money. I want more money (doesn't everyone), but I don't need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 04:35 PM
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Well, yeah. A need is a need. Assuming of course I couldn't get the money another way. I wouldn't take the money at this point in my life regardless of the amount because I don't need it. I have enough income to have all my needs met. If I needed money then things would chance. If, say, my mom is dying from something treatable and the only way to get the money for the treatment is this dude, then I would do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 04:28 PM
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I would deny. Just no. I don't need the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 04:23 PM
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Reminds me of that one Doctor Who episode.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 10:20 PM
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I wonder how much of that idea comes from people who write and sign their own prenups without any input from a lawyer. Because as I understand it, it's very easy to get a home made prenup thrown out. And a lot of people seem to prefer to go the lawyer free route.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 07:54 PM
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I use to believe I would get one. But when the time came I said nope. I guess you can't just show up with prenup papers and just sign them. If you want them to actually hold up in court they need to be written by a lawyer, your each need your own lawyer, and they must be signed at least a few months away from the marriage. And of course with a notary. The total bill comes out to be a few thousand dollars. Now, if on of you have money this might make sense. But we both have right the same amount …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 06:15 PM
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The same physical standards should be applied to everyone regardless of gender. If most women cannot make it, oh well. But women shouldn't get discriminated against just because of their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 06:23 AM
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Since when has this objection ever stopped anyone on here?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 11:01 PM
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I think those economists did have the computing power. I really doubt it. For the amount of data that you might realistically look that, the computational demands would be unreasonable. If you have just ten men and ten women, there are over a million combinations. Consider if you have a thousand men and women. Or a hundred thousand, which is a more realistic data set. I can't even calculate how many comminations there would be because my calculator gets overflow issues. And for each of those pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 06:47 PM
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Feminists hate the fact that men are socially expected to show confidence, intellectualism, assertiveness, emotional resilience, independence, leadership ability, physical strength, practical aesthetics practicality in general, and certain forms of selflessness. Okay? I haven't met very many feminists like that but whatever. So really they are attacking masculinity from both sides because they are vehemently against gender essentialism. Positive masculinity is attacked because "those traits are …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 06:02 PM
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Right but these solutions require women to be pursuing. If the women are not pursuing, then the solution will always be male-optimal. Which is why dating advice marketed towards women is often taking a more proactive approach. Mmm, I don't have a hard proof on hand, but I don't buy that. If we had a powerful enough computer, we could brute force it. Find every possible combination of marriage and ask if there set of marriages is stable. If we did that there would be no proposers or reviewers (si…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 05:45 PM
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Toxic masculinity are traits that men are socially expected to do that are harmful. So I think it would be unfair to say that the other traits, virtuous masculinity, are things that men should do. Rather they would be socially expected traits that men do. It's a bit of an aside but I think a third group would be needed for traits that aren't particularly harmful or beneficial, neutral masculinity or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 05:02 PM
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Okay, the algorithm has proven that there always exists a stable set of marriage (matching) and also guaranteed to find such set of marriage. Better. I was just objecting to the idea that there only solution is male optimal. Might be a bit of an aside, but the proposer/reviewer roles were invented for the algorithm not not necessarily part of the problem itself. Some economic theories apply pretty directly to dating. Market thickness, supply-demand, brand value, adverse selection, signaling, sea…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 04:38 PM
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I think they just aren't common enough for feminists to care. Maybe if they become widespread more will care. But right now, most feminists really don't seem to put much thought towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 04:14 PM
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I've never heard of this before, but I did read the wiki. Assuming that I'm not overlooking some key point, I do have a list of complaints. First, The stable marriage problem shows that in a set of all possible pairings between the individuals of two groups (the Suitors and the Sought), the only stable solution is Suitor-optimal. The algorithm to solve this problem produces this. It's not the only way to form stable marriages though. See the 'Optimality of the solution' section, where is says: *…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 08:01 PM
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That is the stupidest idea I've ever heard. No, of course not. Late in 2017 at a tech fair in Austria, a sex robot was “molested” repeatedly and left in a “filthy” state. The issue there is that it wasn't their property. Some tech developer brought in the doll to demo and the users were too rough and left it in a bad condition. The victim wasn't the doll, it was the doll's owner who had to spend time and money cleaning and repairing it. I've made threads about this before, but most feminists don…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 05:53 PM
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What, exactly, do you propose to do about that? Nothing. I propose nothing. I'm just saying if OP always women to make just as much as men, he should be prepared for men to do just as much child care. I don't propose either of them. I'm going to marry a great guy, make as much money as him, and not have kids. As far as other people, I don't think they 'should' do anything. If they want to have one care for the kids more, fine. If they want to split everything equally, cool. None of my business. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 03:46 AM
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At this point, I'm pretty sure that you are missing the point. Recall that the OP is about explaining the wage gap as women supplementing their income with their husband's income. Consider that my comments are also about explaining the wage gap. My comments were never intended to belittle single fathers. My comments were never about women having it harder then men. Hell, I didn't even want to talk about single parents or bring any kind of value statements into this. Men in average make more than…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 11:37 PM
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So, 20% of single parents can just go to hell? I'm not saying that. Right now I'm looking at the average job and financial states of parents. I'm simply saying that 20% is less than 80%, that is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 06:59 PM
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One stat we do know well about single fathers is that they aren't the norm. Only 17.5% of custodial parent were men (citation). So as much as single fathers may sacrifice for their kids, there are more single mothers sacrificing for their kids. So any impact that would have on their warning would affect the women's averages more. Though my original comment was more geared towards parents that are still together. When there's two parents in a home women more often take on the primary caregiver ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 06:38 PM
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In the video i make many valid points as to why this is a terrible idea. Could you summarize the points in the video? Many people don't want to or can't watch videos. I wouldn't date a single dad. There's definitely a lot more to consider when they have kids. I cannot blame anyone for not wanting to step into that situation. But some men don't mind or even want it. They want kids, maybe they can't have their own biological ones. Maybe they don't mind they aren't biologically his. I will always c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 06:23 PM
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It seems obvious, but yeah, there are a lot of BP incels. I would say that a disproportionate number of incels are part of the manosphere, or otherwise black pilled even if they don't have a name for their beliefs. But the manosphere is a pretty small thing and most incels are probably BP in beliefs, at least more or less. I do think there is something up with incels regardless of their beliefs. They might be depressed, anxious, socially ungraceful, some other more serious mental illness, live i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 05:48 PM
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I guess I'm a little bit confused as to what your main point is. Could you word it precisely in a thesis statements?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 05:34 PM
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I have to point out that there are some holes in your logic. Do share. As a single father who still has to pay child support on the children that live with me 5 days a week, Just because it's your experience doesn't mean it's the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 05:23 PM
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I'm not sure which blue pillers your are referring to here. I'm only speaking for myself. Blue pillers often tote that traditional measures of masculinity as detrimental and the RP’s emphasis of these values as being negative. Some are good (like self reliance), some are bad (like being unnecessarily violent). Many are benign (such as liking cars). I think feeling forced into those gender norms are bad, but if a guy isn't interested in following then he can easily just not go on TRP. However, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 05:22 PM
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One thing your aren't considering is childcare. A big factor of the wage gap is women sacrificing career (going part time, not working as hard, taking time off, or quitting altogether) to raise children. If women were expected to have completely equal earning power at their husbands, we would also need to expect the husbands to be more active in child rearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 04:39 PM
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I'll concede there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 10:21 PM
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If we can extract information from it, how does it have no value? It's value is getting an average N count that we can be sure isn't under reported. And because the average for men and women must be the same, we can say that women's average N count is less then that number.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 10:20 PM
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Okay? Men over report, women underreport, the true average is probably somewhere between the two reported averages. If men report an average partner count of 7, we can safely assume that women's true partner count is below that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 10:13 PM
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It's still useful as a way to relate men's and women's N count, since the average has to be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 04:16 PM
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Anyways, the percentage at zero is pretty small (I think 5%). Five can be pretty significant depending on how the wide the pdf is. If the distribution is. Thought experiment; median count is ~4, say the data is uniformly spread across 8 answers, each would be 12%. Obviously it's not the case, but small percentages are all there is when you have so many different possibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 06:04 AM
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Can't be as zero is the lowest n-count while 10,000+ (if some accounts are to believed) is the highest. Can be a truncated guassian gaussian. And guassians gaussians are the same as normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 05:13 AM
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Bell curve like.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 05:11 AM
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their options are literally 0, 1, 2, 3, 4–not a lot. Whereas that other half to the right is 4 plus however many dicks your average woman can ride if she’s trying. That could easily be a truncated guassian The graph would look like this. That graph shows no density at zero. There would be some density at zero, and the distribution would be discontinuous going to below 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 05:11 AM
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What? You can absolutely find an average of your data with no regard to the distribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 05:03 AM
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That was a completely trivial point of my comment. I just made an off hand comment that normal distributions are often good first guesses. I'd rather focus on how the averages look and how prostitutes factor in.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 12:01 AM
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I... I think I love you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 11:42 PM
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There is no mathematical reason for the median number of partners for men and women to be even be similar. Median no, but average yes. At least mathematically speaking. Statistically speaking I think a normal distribution is a fair guess for how these numbers look. Anyway, the averages are pretty similar to the medians. I can get you a citation for that when I get home if you want. you'd expect the median partners for women to be a higher than the median partners for men because a small number o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 11:39 PM
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Men's self reported data isn't that much different, and they are bound to over report.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 10:22 PM
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Do you honestly get emotionally riled over everything bad in the world that you hear about? I treat others right, I pursue my goals, I take care of my loved ones, and I make sure to be an informed voter. Between those things I just don't have the energy to care too much about things I read about on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 07:14 AM
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If you want a real discussion, stick to PPD. You can easily just not go to TBP, and they won't go to you. Problem solved. And because they don't seek out reds to piss off, they aren't really trolls. And trolling is not based on fact, it's just opinion. Many people seem to confuse opinion with fact. Trolling is based on the desire to get a rise out of someone. TBP is not trolling anyone. They don't present a factual argument against TRP because they don't want to have a rational discussion, they …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 05:03 PM
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I feel 'meh' about women who were actually raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 03:57 PM
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If you use the baconit app, you don't see the graphics of a sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 05:47 AM
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it's hard for me to imagine a normal, totally heterosexual woman who always wears manly clothes, has a short masculine haircut and identifies as "butch" - a lot of the actual lesbians i know are less masculine than that. I'd say that describes me. Short hair, boyish clothes. I prefer tomboy over butch but whatever. I'm not going to say I'm perfectly heterosexual, but I do like men. Just throwing it out there. There's some room in between gay and straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 03:46 AM
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... it was a yes with an asterisk.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 02:36 AM
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I disagree but I can't really see how your view of this issue is falsifiable. I think our issue is that we are bouncing around similar but distinct ideas. So how about we better define what you are talking about. So far we have: Individual women being assisted by individual men, possible as welfare/charity (a micro scale) More women than men talking from from welfare/charity (Same as above, but on a macro scale) Women as a whole taking from men by without it being welfare/charity You originally …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 02:35 AM
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Maybe this is an aside, but I don't think immature is necessarily bad. It means childish behavoir, but sometimes kids got it right. Poking fun at things can be immature, as is playing video games, pulling pranks, joking around, watching cartoons, and lot of other fun stuff. So TBP might be immature in mocking TRP, but I don't agree that makes them bad, or wrong, or whatever negative descriptor you want to put here. Because that is an opinion being held, obviously. Like I said, rather than prove …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 02:02 AM
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No, but I think my objections are mostly pedantic and born from my training in the sciences. So I will say that I think there can be good, objective measures of attractiveness. Maybe that is suitable to approximate my answer as 'yes'.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 01:42 AM
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The term "high value" isn't a term I use. If I take it to mean "man I would desire" then no, cheating bumps a man down to low value regardless of other traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 09:51 PM
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You are pointing to examples of the more well off segments of society giving to the needy, who sometimes happen to be women. Your Bible quote says to give your tools to the homeless, orphans, or widows. Your Hammurabi quote just says how inheritance works with an unmarried women if the father bequeaths her land. Her brothers only feed her if hey Dad gave her the property and they choose to work the land that rightfully belongs to get. They do not have to work the land and give her sone of the fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 07:34 PM
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Obviously, this is very immature. Rather than prove how TRP is "wrong" by posting scientific articles that directly contradict TRP, they choose to chastise, berate and poke fun at the posts, content and users. This line of thinking is baffling to me. What's wrong with poking fun at stupid ideas? Come on, we all do it. Hell, how often do reds make snide comments about feminism without going through the trouble of debunking their ideas? I laugh at many stupid people online from all kind of walks o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 06:58 PM
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The less you act feminine the more manly and masculine or unwomanly you will appear to others. I can be seen as less feminine but I'm still just as much of a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 04:08 AM
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But this also depends what treated like "shit" means? Like what are we talking about here? Not sure, I was turning the question around on the guy I replied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 04:06 AM
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Being a female and being a good women are not the same thing So then what does it mean to be a good it bad woman? How's that working out for you? Very well. Five years in, going strong, to be married in August. Not every relationship works best as male led.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 04:05 AM
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So if a women is a doormat and gets treated like shit by her husband, is that not also failing? In out post modern feminist society, this rarely happens I'm not asking how common it is. I'm asking if it is also failing. Being a women. Women are born with two X chromosomes and devolop female sex characteristics. We do not become less of a woman based on our behavior. We are still full fledged women regardless of how much we align with how you think we should act. No guy wants a bitch like that. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 02:31 AM
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All successful societies were gynocentric to certain extent and patriarchal to certain extent. Which means, women get their needs met; men organize the corresponding redistribution of resources. In the last couple centuries, a lot of women claimed that they have a solution to break this cycle. Their solution is.... to get women's needs met by telling men they should organize redistribution of men's resources. One thing consistently lacking in the "theories" of "female lobby" is economics. Which …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 01:49 AM
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If a man is a doormat and not only gets treated like shit by his wife, but takes it because he's a pussy, he is failing So if a women is a doormat and gets treated like shit by her husband, is that not also failing? If a woman is aggressive with her husband, feels the need to lead the family and doesn't act lady like, she is failing. What exactly is she failing at?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 01:37 AM
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Hundreds of women do this, out of the hundreds of millions in America. I feel pretty safe writing this off for a very crazy, small minority. I guess female teachers who rape their students also often get love mail from men. So there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 10:43 PM
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I don't know what is wrong with me, but I have a nerd fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 08:57 PM
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I was half kidding with that comment. Obviously there are some major differences. But I can't help but notice some similarities that I find very ironic, considering how much TRP hates feminism. The comment I replied to highlighted some of them, hence my reply. Some major similarities are how they excuse some pretty horrible behavior from their gender as a result of some other factor. They also have a lot of frustration towards society and blame a lot of personal problems on it. Reds often have v…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 08:28 PM
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I've read about it. Even took the mandatory classes on it in college. What don't you think I understand? Funnily enough I've noticed that claims of ignorance seem to be a favorite of many feminists. If someone disagrees with them they default to think they simply must not be understanding the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 08:14 PM
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Is a meathead or lumberjack what you perceive as masculine? Yes. What about RP Alpha males? I picture them to be somewhere between a douchey frat boy (which is a kissing cousin of a meat head) and a weird, angry, autist. Neither of those things are attractive to me on any level.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 07:59 PM
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Do you consider masculine men attractive? As in meat heads and lumber jacks? No, not at all. What kind of men do you consider attractive and what traits? Attractive as a partner or sexually attractive? I'm only sexually interested in men that I could see myself dating, but not everything my significant other does is sexually arrive. Chemistry is important. We need to be able to have good banter and similar worldviews. Actual working knowledge of chemistry is good too, since I am a chemist and en…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 07:46 PM
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I don't have a very high opinion of feminism either. Maybe I should specify the type intersectional feminism we see often today.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 06:58 PM
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It's not something I consider too much. I think of meat heads and sweaty lumber jacks when I think of masculinity, both of which are distinctly unattractive. I know some people here spend a lot of time considering what masculinity and feminity are. I'm sure I'd find some of the traits they list as masculine attractive (and others unattractive). But I honestly don't care too much about it. It's just a collection of cultural ideas on what men and women should be like that changes with time and loc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 06:54 PM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again; the red pill is feminism for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 06:28 PM
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There were a few positive responses, but they got downvoted too. I actually hate the r/relationships community. Half the time their response is to breakup/divorce regardless of how minor the issue is. The other half of the time they just lecture your and why you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 05:42 PM
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Exactly this. Hallucinations are not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/18 05:32 AM
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The r/relationships commenters seemed to be confused and think that you wanted a stay at home wife, rather than a stay at home mother (it might be due to how you worded it). I had no idea those were different things (aside from one being necessarily a mother). I think it was all just an unemployed wife that cared for the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 11:24 PM
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Seeking a relationship that is inherently unequal will sit uneasy with many people. It sits uneasy with me because that's not the relationship I want for myself. When I consider that this doesn't have to me my relationship, I stop caring fast. People on the internet make it a hobby to be nosey and opinionated (myself included). But in real life you have to have a pretty dull life to actually butt into other people's relationships. I will say that sometimes unequal relationships can slip into abu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 11:22 PM
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Truth be told I don't actually know of any SAHMs. Maybe because I won't meet then through work and I don't do social things outside of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 11:15 PM
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The reason your post in r/relationships got such a negative response, I believe, is because you used the word “mooch”, and I’ve gotta say, even knowing it was a test post that you made, that was rankling to read. It made this hypothetical man sound judgey and entitled. Leaving that word out of your r/datingadvice post as well as condensing it down is probably part of why you got a different tone of response there. There’s probably a different way your post could have been phrased to have gotten …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 11:10 PM
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Why do you care what some SJW losers think? To be clear, I'm not at all interested in being or having a home made. I made those threads entirely for discussion purposes. I actually agree that r/relationships is awful, though for more reasons than it being progressive. I strongly support a homemaker role for sensible women who want it. Maybe if I were younger and still had realistic hopes of having a family, I would go for one myself if I could trust women. I don't want that setup, but as long as…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 10:59 PM
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I think there is a pretty big difference. Pressuring would be when you intentionally make her fear you leaving and say that being a homemaker is the only way to avoid that. You can leave her early on, before she gets too attached and fears losing you. You can leave without giving her an opportunity to recant and promise to be a homemaker. You can leave and not say anything to make her particularly afraid of you leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 07:48 PM
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And if a man refuses to consider dating a woman unless she says that she doesn't ind being a homemaker, I don't think that's an issue either. I think it's much better to find a women who already wants to be a home maker than pressure a women into it. I don't think there is anything ethically wrong with it, but it carries a lot of extra risk for both of them. People should be very, very sure that their marriage will last before they commit to a traditional marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 07:15 PM
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Where in the hell did that come from? All she said was that it's sexy if the many knows which buttons to push. None of this impossible/ hypocritical/contradictory stuff was even vaguely implied.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 06:02 PM
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Could you imagine having one in your house? You go to grab something from the closet and see that thing staring at you from the shadows.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 03:14 PM
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Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 06:30 AM
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Alright then. Well, I enjoyed debating you and if you want to pick it up again I'll be up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 04:30 AM
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which is why I said in my original statement the best stats we have STILL show 1 in 10 men. If you think 10% is not 1 in 10, then we have a much bigger problem on our hands than you feeling I am not being civil. It's 10% of reported rapes that are false. So it would translate to one in ten accused rapists being innocent, not one in ten men being falsely accused of rape. There were 90,000 reported rapes in the US in 2015 (citation). If 10% of them where false then we can crudely estimate that 9,0…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 03:23 AM
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I don't. And I actually promote the whole dutch thing. Its women that think this. I meant 'you' in the general sense, I wasn't referring to you personally. Lots of people think the men should pay for the first date, but less people think he should pay for the second. And less still people think he should be paying for all the dates a year into the relationship. Which is why I don't think asking how many people think men should pay for the first date is a fair gauge of typical dates while in a re…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 10:56 PM
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So I'm just going to reply to all your comments here. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA Come on dude, be civil. That's no way to go into a debate. all sources, even the most feminist and skeptical, agreed that between 10% and 15% of reported sexual assault and rape cases were false. Citation? That line can be interpreted in different ways. IIRC something like that percent of police reports on the topic were unfounded. Or some term like that which means there was no …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 08:58 PM
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Note that this is asking about first dates, not dates in general. So? If you think men should pay for any date, it's probably the first. The expectation that men pay decreases with the age of the relationship. Ya not everyone lives in feminist urban society known as Seattle or Portland. I didn't see any stats that broke it down by location. Maybe it's a huge variable, maybe not. I don't know. But I do know that according to your citation somewhere between one in four to one in three women don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 06:04 PM
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Ehhh, I wouldn't trust an online survey too much. Note that this is asking about first dates, not dates in general. Also if we did trust it, it isn't that daunting of a task to find a woman who doesn't want you to pay on the first date. One in four women in general and one in three youths don't think the men should pay for the first date. Though I do think it is interesting that men seem to enforce that gender norm more than women. At least by that survey. 13 percent more men then when think the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 07:06 AM
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You sure you're not on the stronger side for a woman? I really doubt it. I'm pretty sure I'm below average for 25 year old women. Aside from sporadic bursts of outdoor projects I'm pretty sedentary. You don't sound average you sound like some type of rancher or something. Building chicken coops n shit lol I grew up on a farm so I might be more willing then others to do work. But I've moved to the suburbs and gotten a job as a scientist. I'm definitely not particularly strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 01:57 AM
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I dont consider Driving, cleaning, cooking and computer to be physical activities. What would you consider to be physical activities? I'm defining it as unskilled labor. Pretty much anything that you just need a body for, rather than a thinking mind. Even if we exclude the activities with minimal exertion like driving or cooking, women can still do most of the stuff that needs to get done. I've never had a garden so idk how hard that would even be. I assume not much since its mostly old ladies I…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 09:32 PM
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I get shit for not dressing up and wearing makeup. "You really need a new wardrobe" "Don't you want to look pretty for your boyfriend?" "You're going out without makeup? I would be too embarrassed" "You don't shave your legs? Ewwww, that's gross. I wouldn't let my wife do that." Thanks Dad. I was probably one of the few teenagers whose mom wanted them to wear more makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 09:20 PM
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There? Mmm, no. Strength has a deminishing marginal utility when it comes to physical utility. Most utility comes from the last less strenuous tasks. What things do you do most often in day to day life? Cooking, cleaning, driving, computer work, all if which can easily be done by women. Even in terms of yard work women can do most of that stuff. I built a retaining wall for a planner, installed a sprinkler system, I can mow the lawn, right now I'm installing a fence to keep chickens in. My fianc…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 09:04 PM
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Women are useless in any type of street action. Whenever something goes down they'll fall back and call on their men. It almost seems instinctual. Don't bring your girlfriend to your rumbles? Or don't date women who get into rumbles. I don't know you, but I'm starting to think that's for the better, lol. I'll try not to hurt the female feelings of this sub. Women are physically useless.. when compared to men, better? It's not about hurt feelings, it's about being objectively wrong. Women have ph…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 07:55 PM
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Men GET to pay for the girl when they both go out. Not all women expect this. I don't. Men GET to become protectors of a smaller and physically useless human female who expects him to put his life on the line for hers.. How often does this actually come up? I've never been in a situation where I needed protection from my fiance. Not that I would even expect him to. Also, women aren't physically useless, we're just weaker. I've been spending all weekend doing yardwork, clearly not physically usel…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 06:55 PM
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So don't date a women who does that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 06:45 PM
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Where in the hell are you finding these people (your imagination perhaps)? I've never heard a woman talk about her masturbation habit and my only response would be 'ew, TMI'. I guess if a guy did the same I might also consider him a bit of a creeper on top of the TMI thing. But this is because they are talking about their masturbation habits, which I do not need to know about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 04:53 AM
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Another person isn't going to fix your depression or other underlying issues. They can certainly make you feel happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 04:46 AM
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I just asked my fiance, since he plans to marry me but never have kids with me. His given reasons: He loves me He's confident in the one he wants to spend the rest of his life with It would send a shitty message if he dated me forever and never married me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 04:43 AM
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Yeah, pretty much. Sex dolls are pretty weird. Fleshlights are pretty much just dildo's for your penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 07:47 PM
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I would agree that most of the time when an originally closed relationship opens, it's a dying relationship. Someone wants to cheat, or is already cheating, or the sex is awful. Maybe one of them wants a new partner without the pain of getting rid of their old partner. This is all very distinct from relationships that start open.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 12:23 AM
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I run in very open/poly/sex pos circles, I have observed a lot of these relationships starting and ending. I wouldn't say I run in that group, but I am very familiar. OP seems to be talking about relationships that start closed and later are opened. I usually (always, actually) see relationships that are open from the start. There dynamic is very different from what OP describes. For one both parties seem to have ready access to sex, and neither are bothered by the other sleeping around. The wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 08:14 PM
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'Critism: and 'insults' are different things. Critism is highlighting flaws, whereas insults cause offense. Critism can be insulting but isn't necessarily. Insults are also not always critisms. Saying 'women often go for bad boys' is not something I would consider critism or an insult. It doesn't seem to be said to imply it is a flaw nor do I take offense to it. I would disagree with it if you claimed all women go for bad boys or that ever woman desires them. I know women get emotional really ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 10:56 PM
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Surely you must be a troll?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 12:53 AM
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Just want to add that in the age of the internet, your children will be exposed to a lot more different ideas than in generations past.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 07:49 PM
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Okay, if you literally control for everything else then maybe you'll find some genetic component of idealogies. But you aren't going to clone someone a thousand times to start a new society. We are talking about how idealogies propagate through time, and it's not through genetics. MGTOW is not going to die out because they don't breed. It's an idealogy passed doesn't by non blood related members.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 07:03 PM
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I didn't want to change the topic, but I'm glad you pointed this out. Obviously IQ measures something, but to say that something is your inherent, biologically determined intelligence captured on a one demensional scale is a bit optimistic. We have plenty of studies that show you can influence a person's IQ test results with environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 04:59 PM
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Ideas, cultures, and worldviews are strongly influenced by biology. Fundamental human biology maybe, but not individual genetics. You can clone me and raise that baby in the middle East or Africa and that baby will grow up to have entirety different views. Culture evolves largely independent of the populations genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 04:47 PM
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I think the biggest issue with this mindset is that idealogies aren't genetic. You can hop to a range of beliefs as an adult (or at least adolescent). If you want to propagate your ideas rather than genes you should try to influence uncertain people, particularly youths. I know a lot of professors are like that. They all have their own ideas about how science should be done. They don't pop out babies to try to spread their ideas, they mentor/teach students studying science.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 04:38 PM
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I'd be happy to talk about them, but I'm not in a position where I can watch videos. I know a lot of people on here cannot or will not watch videos. Can we get a summary? I would be particularly interested in how he worded the concepts and any amendments or clarification the woman added.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/18 04:18 PM
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If you come up with something that most other men can’t use That's not what I said. I said something that disagree with core beliefs. There was a dude who talked about his positive experiences if he assumed so women were interesting until proven otherwise. His post for removed because it didn't fit with core principles. I couldn't make a post arguing that women will put out more if you treat them like equals. That's not something up for debate on TRP regardless of if people find that it works or…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 09:59 PM
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So do you want to debate them or just observe? Cause I was hoping we could debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 09:44 PM
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and honestly, there is nothing to discuss once people realize thats actually all TRP is. It's dishonest to try to pass TRP off as just common things that get men laid. They do have a core set of beliefs that you aren't allowed to challenge even if you think something else gets you laid better.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 09:42 PM
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It's snarky but I think they are largely right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 09:38 PM
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I just made another comment where we can talk about if in the wrong ballpark. But this is a common issue I've run into with talking about this, and I may reference it elsewhere in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 09:30 PM
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What do YOU think RP concepts or core beliefs are? In terms of practical advice? Don't get married Lift Don't take anything she says seriously Don't invest too much into any given woman If a woman isn't responding well or seems like trouble, drop her Do what you want, not what she wants I could go on but I think you get the point. For the theory, some key ideas Masculinity is good Feminism is bad Women are emotional/irrational Women are not loyal and will leave/cheat readily if a better man come…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 09:26 PM
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All of them are wrong, starting with the fact that there is no ideology. But fine, lets hash this out. This is a frustrating stance. There are lots of red pillers, and each one has different thoughts about TRP. Given the challenge to explain some RP concept I might give some commonly held ideas on it. And a RPer might say I don't understand because I'm not explaining his personal take on it. But from my perspective there are countless men all describing slightly different ideas of a concept and …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 09:15 PM
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I'm talking about when they act like women are objectively worse for not fitting their ideals. It's no secret that TRP looks down on promiscuous women. But there's plenty of men who don't care about that for these women to find happy relationships. If a 30 year old woman with an N count of 30 finds a guy that she is happy with and marries him, there's really no point in get giving two fucks about what the red thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 12:13 AM
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My only complaint with "be the prize" is when it gets too far ingrained in them. They start thinking women who don't conform to their ideals are objectively worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 12:10 AM
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Not everyone is fat just because they eat poorly. They eat an excess of calories. Some meds make you want to eat more or slow you down a bit. But ultimately it's all boils down to CICO. Some for thyroid issues, which is why they tend to cause fatigue. People can also have unhealthy eating habits. I know losing weight is hard and just saying calories in, calories out doesn't capture all the struggling that can go into it. But that is the bottom line. If you restrict calorie consumption you will l…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/18 12:03 AM
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And women have NEVER tried to change a guy? Of course some women do this, and I disagree with it just as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 11:47 PM
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I've had anxiety issues my entire life and have talked with a number of therapists. A common point is that anxiety is an important motivator in many situations, but too much can be crippling. We need enough negative emotions to push up forward without having so many that we become incapacitated or never happy. I think a negative view towards your body (if overweight) is another example. You should feel unhappy enough to motivate you to change, but not so unhappy you can't enjoy life or feel good…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 10:58 PM
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Absolutely, fat people should can have other great traits and shouldn't be considered second class citizens because they are fat. If a person's weight is giving causes severe mental distress like depression they should learn to love themselves despite their weight. But as MadSci said, it's a thin line between being proud despite your flaws and being proud of your flaws. Some fat acceptance people have taken being fat as a point of proud and argued it's healthy and fine. It's not healthy and shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 10:53 PM
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Nah, I'm just poking fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 07:37 PM
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I think this would be more aptly called a 'discussion'.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 07:30 PM
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I would like to point out that there's a big difference in working hard to correct flaws and being proud of your improvement, and being proud of those flaws. Being fat is a good example. It's unattractive and unhealthy. Working out and dieting to get thin and being proud of your accomplishment it's great. But deciding that fat is healthy and okay and being proud of it isn't so great. Understanding your wants and bringing value to the relationship is great. Feeling like a man should pamper you fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 07:07 PM
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Not really, this is pretty much how the members of either side with less ambiguity tolerance argue. It's not how I argue and it's not a stance I'm going to defend. And my question still stands: which approach do you think is more sustainable? To be blunt, it's a bad question. You can easily interpret in such a way to make either stance seen ludicrous or good. Is there red piller going to shoot any black male on sight because he assumes he is a thug that is going to kill him? Does the blue piller…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 06:54 PM
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It means there are lots of women like this. Lots does not mean most. Lots doesn't have a lot to do with the size compared to the general population. Lots is just saying the subpopulation is sizeable. Lots of people love math. To say that people must be miserable in math class is wrong because lots of people like math. Lots of people are alcoholics. Lots of people smoke pot regularly. Lots of people read TRP. Lots of women are happy building a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 06:19 PM
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I know. But you are claiming your view is representative of all women, or even "lots" of women. I disagree that your view is representative, common, or that "lots" of women share it. I can't say that I know any SAHMs, but I know lots of career women. And they are largely pretty happy, particularly those that are not involved in their career. BTW, I'm not saying I think X therefore other women think X. I'm saying I think X and I've observed lots of think women think X.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 05:35 PM
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It's a pertinent view for this discussion. Since, you know, he is talking about the experiences of women and I am a woman and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 05:21 PM
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You haven't said what 1 is. is it "very happy" or "slightly unhappy"? I.e. is it an "overall mood"-scale or an "unhappyness scale"? A 1 is "not unhappy". They measured happy and unhappy with different scales. To quote the paper They were provided five positive (happy, desirable, adventuresome, pleased, and excited) and five negative emotions (empty, confused, used, awkward, and disappointed) and they rated their reactions on a five-point Likert scale ranging from 1 (Not at all) to 5 (Very Much).…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 05:12 PM
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I think that most people on PPD agreed that was a fair stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 07:06 AM
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Hypergamy means dating up. I'm just adverse to hypogamy if it's too far. If he makes 10% less than me it's no big deal. And if he had less education it's really not a big deal either. Also, why is not wanting to provide for your SO a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 03:20 AM
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What stereotype am I proving?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 02:30 AM
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It's a practical issue. Let's say I want a million dollar home. I can afford it, he can't, what do we do? Either I pay his share, I forgo my wishes, or we live in different houses. A married couple is going to have a similar lifestyle, regardless of how important it is to one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 01:38 AM
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I didn't realize "I'm a strong woman who doesn't need a baby" is part of that, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 01:35 AM
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Why do you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 01:12 AM
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His income would be more important than his education. Not that I want any money from him, but I don't want to have to fund his lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 01:04 AM
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I'm pretty sure they would make be distinctly unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 01:03 AM
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No? Not in the mood to debate that point? Okay then.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 01:02 AM
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I'm actually engaged to a great guy, and there's lots of men over at r/childfree who would love to find women on the same page. I strongly suspect there are more childfree men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 11:56 PM
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It's going well. But somehow I get the feeling you aren't legimately asking me about work. This question is a little bit vague in it's wording. Do you mean women shouldn't sleep around/devote her youth to a career because it'll ultimately make her unhappy and it destroy the fabric of society? Or just that men would prefer to not marry such a women, but if that makes her happy it's the right thing for her to do? Because I've seen both argued on here and they are very different ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 11:53 PM
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I can see you just fading away like from Back to the Future.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 11:48 PM
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It's cool kid men on here wouldn't want to marry me, but I don't think I made a bad choice in pursuing a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 11:46 PM
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Both are bad and equally meaningless. She wasted the years where she could attract and nail down a high value man, marry him and fullfill her purpose and become a mother to her children, a wife to her husband and the cement to her family. Instead she is left with a degree that won't make her happy or memories of a hedonistic lifestyle that gradualy washed her out. Pffft, as if. I'm very happy with my degree, nor do I ever want to become a mother. Lots of women are happy with their life path that…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 11:42 PM
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That's a baseless assertion - just seems like projection and/or sampling bias (from PPD or your group of friends). I wouldn't ever jump to conclusions like that. Which one is the alleged baseless assertion; that older people think such hookup definitions are silly or that younger people don't think it's silly? Because I have a lot of people in this thread complaining about how vague the definition used in the study is. 58% were non-freshman. Yet.. similar results. And the average age was only 20…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 11:37 PM
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From the data I've seen, I'm pretty sure more men than women have had casual sex if there is any difference at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 11:23 PM
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I don't see your point or a problem with asking college students. It beats asking the local PPD 40 year old town bicycle, don't you think? It entirely depends on what you are asking them. For many questions, that old town bicycle would have more interesting responses. I've had a number of people complain that the definition of hookups is bad because of a number of relatively innocent actions that could be included in it (such as making out). I was assuming that was a concern if yours as well, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 09:44 PM
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So they are very inexperienced. Getting to second base is a big deal for a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 09:09 PM
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All I am saying is the 65% number is probably higher in reality, and for men's number too. I can agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 08:39 PM
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Flawed is a strong word. It considers things that you are not interested in. But it does make the distinction between coital and non coital hookups, which is more in line with actual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 08:38 PM
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I wouldn't trust anything in this study too much. Bad sample selection and self reported data. There's probably a study that answers your question somewhere using the bogus pipeline method (lie detectors).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 08:36 PM
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Oh man, I know how that goes. A lot of times I'll want to do a comprehensive review on something or another but never get the time and energy to actually do it. So instead I'll just summarize a paper that I find interesting, takes like 30 minutes. I guess it's not as easy for you, since the research is already done and compiled for me. Well, if you ever get around to it I'd love to read it. Currently we are spending our weekends painting the house :( Ooh, that's fun for the first ten minutes. In…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 08:31 PM
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Ha! That or date raping. Nah, I'm going to guess it's due to lying and maybe some bad sample selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 08:27 PM
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If 30% reported being in a LTR for the last year, we can reasonably assume that the above 65% number (of women who said they hoped their hookup would lead to a relationship) is maybe within 70-80% range when accounting for the whole range of the population instead of just the 500 students who had at least 1 hookup in the past year. Hm, I think I see your point. Some number of women hoped for their hookup to turn serious. The hookups that did turn into LTRs were excluded along with all other LTRs…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 08:18 PM
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Aw, thanks! I feel a lot better talking about stuff if there is data in front of my face. I kinda wish you would make some legal stuff threads though. I'm curious about that stuff but it's largely inaccessible to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 08:09 PM
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I think there might be a concern about herpes, HIV, and some other STDs. But yeah, I wish they excluded oral sex when considering condom use. It would have been a more interesting stat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 07:38 PM
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Err..... did I miss something here or is it just a maths fail? Nope, just an honest math fail. Thanks for pointing it out. The second type of guy is RPs 'chad'. He got better women as they'd generally be attracted to them either physically or for their status (drug dealing lead singer of a rock band for one example). These guys tended to play things off a bit more but quietly admitted to occasionally wishing they'd have something more serious. In every case they ended up with gfs sooner or later…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 07:36 PM
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Yep. Though do keep in mind the average age of the participants was 19.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 07:30 PM
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Women not necessarily wanting to date their hookup is unsurprising. As much as the opposite is talked about, it’s incredibly common for women to just want to get off. The reason I suspect it’s not as prevalent with men is that women generally require a bit more effort from the man to get off, and generally hookups won’t give that effort, so they'd rather have a night alone than a night of okay-at-best sex. Pretty reasonable. I'm not one of those that thing women want to marry any guy that they s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 07:30 PM
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Good point, the average age of participants was 19.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 07:23 PM
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Kids these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 07:22 PM
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One of the points of interest in the literature about hookup culture is how broadly defined it is. We want to understand what is happening when we overhear students talking about hooking up. The definition they provided in the study is Some people say that a hook up is when two people get together for a physical encounter and don’t necessarily expect anything further (e.g., no plan or intention to do it again). Based on this definition, how many people have you hooked up with in the past 12 mont…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 07:20 PM
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I'm having yet another slow day at work, so I might make it a thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 06:25 PM
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Contrary to what you seem to believe, Garcia and Reiber (2008) found that a large majority of women who engaged in short-term hook-up behaviors actually were hoping that such encounters would turn into long-term relationships. Sometimes seeming promiscuous is actually a long-term mating tactic. Veeeeery interesting study. Could be a thread in and of itself. I do think you are jumping to conclusions a bit. The question asked to the participants was: Thinking about your hooking up encounter: Did y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 05:57 PM
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Yup, as of about a month ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 04:37 AM
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Ideally 0, but I wouldn't start to feel uncomfortable until he was at ~5. if he's somewhat attractive it's going to be double digits. I disagree, but I thought the consensus here was that it was hard for a man to maintain a sex life without a girlfriend. Well, my fiance was a virgin when we met and I think he's very handsome, just shy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 03:18 AM
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Lately I've been really into My Time at Portia, but I'm starting to get bored of it. I've been hankering some Ark: Survival Evolved so I start playing that. Other games include Banished and Orcs Must Die. I'm guessing you play some games as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 08:55 PM
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I don't like most of RPW advice, but I like that they don't default to "break up with/divorce him" for any issue like most other subs do. I wish there was a relationship sub with BP advice that doesn't allow your only solution to be to end the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 07:19 PM
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I know this comment is two days old but I'm so bored too. I have had nothing to do since my science machine was taken out of commission. Well, if you still want entertainment, I read an interesting paper a few days ago. Male macaques prefer to mate with high ranking females who have successfully birthed and raised a free children already. Interesting because it runs counter to the common RP evolutionary pyschology talking point of men wanting young virgins and not caring about her social standin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 07:12 PM
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I'm not sure if there is a good term for it, but there is a lot of one upping in online fourms centered around a belief/behavior. People seem to try to pull rank by being the most MGTOW/childfree/vegan/whatever. And other people in the group tend to buy into it, and enforce it as a means of status. This is to say almost any subreddit is going to take it too far. There is nothing wrong with men opting out of marriage/LTRs/women. In fact I think every man should consider if he actually wants an SO…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 06:46 PM
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It's not an issue to want to date the attractive man. Rejecting one based on looks is expected for either gender. It is an issue to think the unattractive man did something wrong (implied by calling him a creep) or shame him (the creep/ew comment) in this case. If I was in that line I would think the chick was being cruel and the guy didn't do anything wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 06:36 PM
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This thread again?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 05:18 PM
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I think "she got 15% of my stuff in the divorce" really doesn't have the same dramatic effect, even if more accurate. It's annoying when hyperbole gets mistaken for reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 10:18 PM
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To answer your question, that is the assumption in my case because my wife makes $0/hour and I am the sole income source. I realize that this is the exception in the US, but this is my case. But it's not an assumption in your case, it's the reality. And if you said that she would get half your stuff that would be a more fair assessment. I don't like when they say men in general will lose half their stuff. Or talk about a particularl marriage that they don't know the finances of.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 10:07 PM
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My issue is the foregone conclusion that all community property was provided entirely by him. In your examples it was just the man who put forth money. That is a pretty rare case in reality. How about this. Women, on average, make 80 cents to a man's dollar. So if he makes 50k, let's say she makes 40k. They go about their life, put their combined 90k earnings into a mortgage, investment properties, savings accounts, whatever assets. By the time they divorce they have 100k in assets, which is div…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 09:23 PM
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Not sure what point you are trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 07:34 PM
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Pretty sure that's not going to be a particularly large barrier. If her husband is her livelihood (as opposed to her job, in the case where she had her own money invested) she would be at even more of a financial disadvantage. Though I don't think most cheaters plan to be caught.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 07:33 PM
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He loses half of the community property. Why the assumption that everything gained marriage is his?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 07:09 PM
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I wonder why this doesn't seem to effect RP men? Maybe it is because they have found a sense of enlightenment and their goals of sleeping with women have been met. I suspect that it's because the most miserable would-be red pillers are black pill instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 04:59 PM
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I would like to point out that 'less happy' doesn't mean 'not happy'.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 04:43 PM
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What do you mean? When was the last time you voted on making an action that mutilates another human being ? Seriously? The mutilation of other human beings is just illegal, we don't need to be convince. Clearly, when it comes to circumcision, people do need to be convinced and there are votes on the topic. Society didn't convince us that murder is wrong, it didn't convince us that cannibalism is wrong, it just made it illegal. That's because those rules are older than society. It's not like we h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 10:20 PM
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From my experience, it's heavily based on perception. There's conventionally attractive, and I can recognize it. But a man doesn't become actually attractive until I see him in action. His humor, attitude, how he carries himself, all play into how attractive he is. I've had men go from 'meh' to pretty sexy after getting to know him a bit. AFAIK men's physical attraction towards women doesn't change too much with her personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 06:40 PM
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The "no truly selfish act" argument applies equally to men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 09:57 PM
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The only way my ideas will effect my culture is if I contribute something of huge value, which is why I’m careful about the art I make Maybe if you were working alone. But activism with others of similar beliefs can absolutely make a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 09:27 PM
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It's not a very productive line of thinking. Everything I do is ultimately because I either fear what might happen is I don't do it, or will get a squirt of some feel good neurotransmitters if I do. And if we want to go into the evolutionary basis, then we are essentially experiencing intellect diarrhea. We throw out completely unsubstantiated post hoc evolutionary ideas that don't even have basis in the literature of evolutionary pyschology. Which is the retarded cousin of sociology and not som…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 09:24 PM
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Even if it's your own culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 09:09 PM
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I'm talking about romantic love and getting married based on that. The feels you might have right now are nothing more than your biology compelling you to have children with your partner Everyone's emotions are experiences are products of our biological. My fear of heights, like of puzzles, enjoyment from my favorite food, it's all just biology. That doesn't mean the emotions don't count or are somehow lessor. so when that goes away (it won't last forever because if you don't have kids for years…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 09:08 PM
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Do you accept that most stats are lifetime stats, and what a 80 year old man did in the 1960s is largely irrelevant to most people today? These are lifetime stats, but it's unfair to push it all on the older generation. The Kinsey Report's average age of respondents was 30 with a standard deviation of 10 years. Why does the infidelity gap lessen as you get closer and closer to today? Don't know, don't really care. Point of this thread is that men do in fact cheat more often. In fact some statist…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 08:36 PM
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If conducted in western clean hospitals and by professionals, female circumcisions could be about as damaging as male circumcision. FGM includes a number of different procedures. The anatomical analogy to male circumcision would be removal of the clitoral hood and nothing else, but this is rarely done. Usually the entire clitoris is removed with the hood. Other common practice remove the labia, which is analogous to the scrotum in males, though obviously this doesn't translate well due to the pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 05:28 PM
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Yes, I am serious. You made a claim, and I want you to support it with evidence. there's like articles online readily available via google Pick your favorite and send me a link. you talk to your typical young women and ask them how many men/boys they're texting behind their partner's back. I don't text anyone behind my SO's back nor do I know of any women who does.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 04:22 PM
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Such cynicism. Largely, it's because most stats on the topic are about sexual infidelity, not emotional affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 10:47 PM
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I'm actually an animal rights activist. I don't think people would have the right to kill animals for food. Obviously this is not a popular opinion in America. So when I say a movement can only get as far as the general populace allows, I'm speaking from personal experience. I'm not saying that we should accept male circumcision (or FGM), but be realistic in how we approach the issue. You can't run around telling mother's they mutilated their son any more than I can scream meat is murder. It onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 06:12 PM
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It implies it, particularly when other studies are used to sure men lie at about the same rate. Given the evidence, men most likely cheat more than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 06:06 PM
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This is asking if the person ever cheated. More men have cheated at least once than women. So the opposite of your idea is true. Men's cheating is more spread among them while a smaller number of women cheat. Though these studies don't comment on how often cheaters actually do cheat, I do remember reading one blip about this. More men report having cheated recently (last year, last six months).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 05:25 PM
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men boast about it to seem more alpha, and women deny it so they (and the female sex in general) don't look like cheap town bicycles. I really doubt most men boast about cheating on their SO. nope. most women don't think that way and most of them do marry for material reasons. Whatever. joke aside, just look up when "romantic love" became popular in society, because marriages had radically different reasons beforehand I know that marriage had radically changed in the last few centuries (and even…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 05:21 PM
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Nowadays women cheat more than men. Do you have evidence for this claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 05:15 PM
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These numbers are of actual cheating, not willingness to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 05:14 PM
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Do you have evidence this phenomenon impacts these stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 05:13 PM
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I don't think we can accurately conclude whether or not they do because of the questionable nature of self-reporting and the tendency to lie about it. Nothing is certain in science. But all the evidence points to men cheating more. Studies done on people lying during surveys show that men also lie a similar amount as women, so the data may not be accurate but the fact that men cheat more is probably true. Your sentence structure and word choice. I can see it now. But no. People use those argumen…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 05:10 PM
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If we as a society was to normalize the practice of female circumcision for the sake that it "looks cleaner" surely there will be a huge uproar? FGM is usually much more damaging than make circumcision. That aside, male circumcision is common. It's hard to convince people something is bad if half the population does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 02:28 AM
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And now I have Linkin Park, In The End stuck in my head. Thanks a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 02:00 AM
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Taxes go to more than just welfare. Do you want to abolish welfare program but keep enough taxes to support other government functions? Or do you want to "abolish income tax and all other tax on labor" and thereby end things like public roads and police forces? Secondly, what about welfare programs that help both men and women? Do you think disabled men, men who lost their jobs, and elderly men should not have any welfare? excludes their basic needs Sex, romance, and family are not basic needs. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 01:49 AM
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But i also know just because a fat married guy tried to get laid, doesn't mean he can Willing to cheat is categorized differently. These are people, men and women, who actually cheated. Maybe it's just my personal experiences, but i find it hard to believe only that many women have cheated. It's gotta be closer to 50% for both Those are the stats. You might just run in particularly cheat-happy groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 01:31 AM
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I don't know if it is you or more, but this 'corrected' sentence is really hard to read. People on here say 'women cheat more' or 'women are more likely to cheat' a fair bit. There are no studies in the literature to support this claim. That is my stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 01:20 AM
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Cheating, regardless of the gender, is a shitty thing to do. I do not condone such behavoir, and strongly disagree with anyone who does it or tries to excuse it. That said, if men are shamed so much more strongly, as you say, we would expect men to downplay their cheating even more than women on the surveys. So, following your logic, we would believe that difference between male and female cheating is even larger than the literature suggests.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 01:14 AM
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I somehow doubt self reported surveys are accurate. That's why I included the last study, to show just how common lying is and that men also lie a significant amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 01:12 AM
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I would say that this simply blurs their percentage, or replaces it with a question mark, but why can't we assume or suspect that women are cheating more than they will admit? Ah, I that sentence was unclear. We cannot assume or suspect that women cheat more than men. It is fair to suspect that women cheat more than they admit, especially based on other studies. Doesn't make it any better. Nope, cheating is a very shitty thing to do, regardless of gender. Just because one gender is less likely t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 01:11 AM
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But everyone looks like a shitbag when they cheat on their SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 01:03 AM
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Maybe they’re just seeing the gap close in real time. It definitely looks like it. Unfortunately it seems to be women cheating more rather than men cheating less.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 01:02 AM
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I wonder how much of the difference just boils down to opportunity? IIRC, the biggest factor in who cheats is 'permissive sexual attitudes', or just how liberally they view sex. Though that is probably also correlated with having ties to sexually permissive people as well, which would lead to more opportunities. It's an interesting topic, no doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 01:01 AM
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Men cheat physically more That's all I am arguing in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 12:59 AM
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women cheat and then think it "didn't count" or even "forget" they cheated. Any evidence for that claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 12:58 AM
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too bad women lie about these things because of social pressure (from other women mostly)... Men also lie, and we don't have good reason to think that women lie significantly more about this. that's the cause of the rule "Nx3" (multiply her admitted N count by 3) Women admitted to having, on average, an additional 0.65 sexual partners when hooked up to a lie detector (citation). and I'm talking about the average situation You did say And why would I marry a guy I'm not attracted to? I can and do…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 12:58 AM
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Well, clearly you need a shift in your views.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 10:52 PM
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The number of sexual encounters must be the same. But here we are just asking if you have ever done something, not how many times or with how many people. So hypothetically cheaters could only being sleeping with other cheaters, and the female cheaters having more sex then the male cheaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 10:46 PM
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I can try to find a paper on the topic, but IIRC it's most related to sexually permissive attitudes. Pretty much those who have very liberal views towards sex tend to cheat more.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 10:31 PM
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Just seems like a very out of place for this comment. Perhaps you should make a thread about it, I and many others would be happy to argue about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 10:29 PM
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The dudette is more likely to cheat (there're a few surveys that support this Men are more likely to cheat, I just made a thread on this if you want to see the argument just married him for his assets+alimony+child support. Well, we are talking about the hypothetical where she doesn't marry him for his resources. Since discrimination against bachelors is a past thing there're just no rational reasons for a man to get married in this day&age. No, not even children. You don't have to marry anyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 10:27 PM
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I mean, your evidence suggests that men would lie about actually cheating... as in, saying they were cheating to make themselves feel big and manly and whatever, when in fact, they were not cheating If your follow the tend very, very superficially. If you read this in context with the background and rationale you see the idea is that people lie to conform to acceptable behavior. And I really doubt men think that it's acceptable and expected for them to cheat. Male infidelity isn't considered a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 10:23 PM
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It can be scary high, though note how erratic that number can be. I've seen it as low as 10%/5% and as high as ~30%.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 10:17 PM
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Yep, the gender gap in infidelity seems to be closing. I'm not trying to argue female moral superiority or anything. I don't draw any grand conclusions from this trend. I just notice a number of people on here think women cheat more, and that's just factually incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 10:14 PM
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I'm very sure many women do have a FO. I've seen it happen, so... I personally don't because I don't have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 05:38 PM
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Still plenty of other reasons for divorce. The dude might cheat, do some serious crines, be abusive, abuse substances. Or maybe you just realize you no longer love him, or never did.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 05:35 PM
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The OP cited several examples which literally said that men who don't commit are entitled manchildren. OP linked to essentially the same article twice that was reposted, one broken link, and Tess shilling about fat beauty and how women find them sexy but embarrassing. So no, OP didn't cite such things. But I'm sure they exist, so no need to find new articles. But you have to realize there is a big difference in the lengths and depth TRP talks about such things. Sure, determinism of any kind is w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 05:33 PM
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They have sex with the guys they are most attracted to only to find that these men are «scared of commitment», «only interested in sex.» Or they do get together and live happily ever after. Or they try dating and one or both of them don't think it's working out. Or the girl never wanted to date the guy to begin with. It's really not so black and white. The relationship happiness of women requires sexual self-restraint and taking care of one’s appearance and personal development, and the relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 05:17 PM
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I'm not interested in casual sex. But other women are. When I said "I might sleep with a guy for different reasons", I was talking generally. Saying "one might do this" sounds a bit weird IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 04:33 PM
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Criticizing TRP biological arguments isn't very persuasive because you could strike those arguments from the conversation completely and you'd still have to address a wide array of market forces arguments. Mmm, recall that I'm not trying to make a comprehensive argument against TRP. I'm just noting differences between TRP and feminist dating advice presented in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 04:29 PM
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No, never.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 04:27 PM
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The point is that your categories lack some resolution. I might sleep with a guy but not want to marry him for a number of reasons. And based on these reasons I might catagorize guys differently. Some might be a "no way I'd marry him" or a "I'm glad that I didn't but I still have my doubts".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 09:59 PM
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Not sure if you are disagreeing with me or legimately didn't understand my mangled sentence. What I was trying to say is that about half of women have casual sex. And many of those that do only have it once. Meaning a healthy majority of women never have casual sex, or have it only once.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 09:43 PM
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Of course there are differences. A large one is that TRP uses a lot of biological determinism. You see things like "women are entitled, women are children, women are irrational" much more readily on TRP. But I sense that your question is more if we approve of these sources. I will say today many of them, particularly those put out by feminists, are shit. The feminist shit smells different than the RP shit, but it's all still shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 09:17 PM
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Not all women have casual sex. I don't. It's not like she was even talking about the majority of women. Just today she knows some that don't have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 09:09 PM
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It seems like you are categorizing men based on immediate (lust) and long term (admiration) potential. Which isn't the worst method I've seen. But I think it does neglect some extra dimensions of a guy. Even just in the immediate, a guy can be sexy, intellectually engaging, funny, have a sporadic fun nature to him, or any combination of them. Does this feel familiar ladies? Eh, I get the LTR prospects and the omegas but that is it. I'm not interested in casual sex. And why would I marry a guy I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 08:55 PM
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Men bond over shared struggle. Women do too. It's a powerful way to form tight bonds.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 08:03 PM
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Sometimes I wish I had faith. I've been struggling to accept mortality since the death of my grandmother.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 07:09 PM
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Well, this is a debate sub. Just because I argue about the validity of your rationale doesn't mean I think you have to provide one. If you don't want to marry a slut, don't. You certainly don't need my blessing. I just like to argue. Blue Pillers and women constantly complain that TRPers talk about why they don't want to marry sluts. Reds will often invoke some of the most ludicrous "bio truths" to try to justify this (such as sperm in the brain). Plus, as Electra said, it reads like a revenge f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 05:14 PM
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Chemistry doesn't have a human component. As long at the protocols are the same, two people can conduct the exact same chemical reaction because chemistry is not dependent on anything human. Human psychology is not the same. I'm sure we can agree human psychology is at least in part a product of enviroment. Not saying entirely, there is an evolutionary component as well. But a child brought up in an abusive home usually has different behaviors than a non-abusive home. Environment matters a lot w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 01:31 AM
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Are you talking about high N count men wanting low count women? Would you also defend fat women wanting fit men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 06:41 PM
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I would be fine with that. And I even expect low N count men to find high N count women gross. It bothers me when high N count men think that high N count women are gross though. Like a fat person refusing to date other fat people. To clarify, I'm objecting to the rationale given in the OP. I'm not opposed to passing up high N count women, I just like to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 06:26 PM
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They are gross to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 06:19 PM
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It's something that I've noticed, and seems pretty obvious to me. Like pairs with like. I'm a low N count woman, and I wouldn't date a high N count man. The high N count men I know usually date/marry high N count women. Other low N count women I know want low N count men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 05:54 PM
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Oh boy, this is a hardy one. Right now, I'm going to reply to the first part. When I get time again I'll go in for another part. Evolutionary Psychological Right off the bat, I have major complaints about evolutionary psychology. I don't think we can use psychology today to predict how psychology tens of thousands of years ago was. That and the evolutionary explanations tend to be post hoc. Men have evolved to not desire promiscuous women because this would be a terrible evolutionary and paterna…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 05:39 PM
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Okay, you stay back and figure this whole thing out. We'll be back on Monday.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 04:29 AM
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Meeting adjourned, let's all go home and enjoy the weekend.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 10:43 PM
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So I don't disagree with, but I would like to add that you also don't get to decide what high quality men want. Or even who these high quality men are. You only get to decide your own standards. If a high quality man (however that is defined and by whoever) decides he's okay with a chuddy, old, high N count, or whatever girl that's his choice. Not yours. That vaginas don't get looser with many different partners . That's a factually true statement. The vagina doesn't get looser with multiple par…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 10:42 PM
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And yet Blues like you draw conclusions about typical men from r/niceguys and r/creepypms all the time. I don't do that and don't agree that is a fair thing to do. Women are interested in casual sex. They sure are having a lot of it. To varying extents, with most women having one night if or no casual sex. only one experience if any. Edit: wow, I really fucked up that sentence. Where you Blues are getting tripped up is the difference between "demonstrate" and "prove". NO one here says it proves …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 08:01 PM
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It CAN be concluded from this experiment when coupled with and evaluated in conjunction with all other available evidence. Anything that can be concluded would come entirely from the "other evidence" as this cannot be used to conclude anything. This is a handful of women. It's about as meaningful as going to r/creepypms to learn about typical men. I can go to TRP, find a handful of people who think women should be banned from voting, and use those few examples that most reds want women to be bar…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 07:04 PM
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I would like to caution against using differences in sentencing as proof of gender biases in court. A lot of factors can go into sentencing that may be corralated with gender. In this case, I can easily see it being gender discrimination. Men with young girls is looked at with much more skepticism than women with young boys. But I firmly believe they are equally as bad and gender itself shouldn't lessen sentencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 06:49 PM
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Yes, it does apply to most people That certainly can't be concluded from this experiment. Five women took the bait but that only shows five women in the world are like that. Without some way to gauge how many women didn't take the bait, it's pretty meaningless. Women lie that they aren't attracted to sexually attractive men I'll openly about that looks matter. They just aren't the most important thing, particularly with LTRs. they are really looking for relationships and not hookups, Many women,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 06:37 PM
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I didn't summon you. Is there a typo in my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 06:06 PM
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the attractive masculine men will ultimately be more successful than the nice guy regardless of his attitudes towards women. We might have to agree to disagree here. You may believe this but that doesn't make it true. But the problem is that this is precisely what BPers argue. You're an incel? You can't get laid? "Well maybe if you weren't such a gosh-darned misogynist, you'd have better luck". Incels from places like r/incels are usually very misogynistic. Since we brush shoulders with them so …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 06:02 PM
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But yeah the dilemma in the bigger picture is the stark choice many women face between pursuing career status with life contentment. But I don't understand. Career status makes life contentment, or at least heavily contributes to it. And then you meet a great guy through your career and the rest of it that way. Work is love. Work is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 10:01 PM
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All of my friends are very successful career women who are happily married. None of this nonsense would ever even occur to them. But they are all xNTx types. Yeah, I have no idea what is going on. I'm happy being a chemist during the day and snuggling with my fiance at night. There really want any sacrifice between them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 09:59 PM
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As someone else pointed out you can't mistake corralation with causation. But I mostly want to take issue with an assumption you are making. Or maybe it is a misunderstanding. I'm not arguing that women are moral gaurdians. Some are, some aren't, just like men. But women across the board won't enjoy reviecing immoral acts. Men who are entitled and douchey to women aren't going to fair well. If they at least are nice to their woman, she may not mind him being an ass to others. Of course many wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 09:52 PM
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Being unpleasant (which includes entitled, rude, douchey...) makes people not want to do things with you. This extends to women having sex with you. So an abrasive personality will make it harder to sex casual sex. However that doesn't mean it is the only reason to not get casual sex. A leads to B but not all cases of B are due to A. Just because a guy doesn't get sex doesn't mean he had an abrasive personality. Is this because men are expected to work and improve themselves in order to get laid…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 07:28 PM
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Some tactics are, some aren't. Really depends on who you are talking to and their outlook. A lot of it a step by step guide to do standard flirting. Nothing wrong with that. Others are rapists. Alex Smith, PUA teacher, prowls outside bars at 2am looking for really drunk chicks to fuck. The victim was found by a friend unconscious, face down on a bed and surrounded by vomit with two of the defendants nude around her. The dude also foricbly raped a 17 year old in an unrelated incident. Point is, P…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 08:12 PM
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I've seen negging described in different ways which really change the optics on it. Negging is teasing to show women you are not intimidated by then. Or negging is lowering their self esteem to make them more vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 07:45 PM
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Haha, no. This was some pretty stupid logic. If one person pays more of the bills it's reasonable to think the other should do more housework. I pay just as much of the bills as my SO and expect he does just as much of the housework. It's not even a feminist stance. It's a common view among feminists and one I always held. The child custody thing it's out of the blue. I think both parents should have access, but the primary custody arrangement should be based on the best interest of the child, n…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 07:41 PM
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I'm a five, but I feel like my mom smoking pot really shouldn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 05:56 PM
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have no life? More or less this. Those of you who like it, it still isnt for you. Its for men and thus a waste of your time. Well duh. Does anyone think Reddit isn't a time waster? I like to argue. It's been a hobby of mine since I found the internet. All sorts of different views though radically different ones tends to be my favorite. I also like to read into crazy views and laugh about in appropriate places. I use to read a lot about creationists, laugh about their stupid ideas, and argue with…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 05:45 AM
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Women being catty towards each other for benign things (such as clothing or hair styles).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 12:00 AM
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Or others. I provided an example of them hurting themselves but men getting into a bar fight because someone called them gay is also an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 11:30 PM
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It's harmful to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 11:16 PM
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What a stupid bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 09:41 PM
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Hey, it's better then his previous post of a teacher "getting seduced" and sleeping with her 12 year old student.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 09:36 PM
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Not a feminist but I do think both toxic masculinity and feminity are a thing. Though obviously they manifest in different ways. I define it behavoirs harmful to yourself or others that are done in an attempt to confirm to gender roles. Example of toxic masculinity is refusing to seek help for mental health issues because you don't want to be seen as less if a man. Example of toxic feminity is spending copious amounts of money on makeup because otherwise you feel like an inferior women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 09:30 PM
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That's not cheating though. And it's not what the courts should be considering bad role models. I wouldn't approve of such a women but I don't think the government should consider her a worse parent for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 05:53 PM
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But infidelity isn't a huge factor in how good of a role model they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 03:29 AM
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Sure they would. They want commitment from chad. Consider a man who is attractive and fun but awful with money management. A woman might sleep with him but not date/marry him because of his poor life skills. But even if you’re correct , that just proves AFBB. How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 08:12 PM
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Child custody is based (or is supposed to be based) on the best interest of the child. As it should be. A parent's behavior is a factor to be considered. Behaviors that suggest how well they are as a parent should be considered. I don't think cheating can be used to judge how good of a parent they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 08:09 PM
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What is the biggest difference that makes it cross the line for you? How interactive it is. If the guy actually talks with her, tells her what to do, and she responds to him and follows his directions that would be over the line. The way I’m reading it makes it seem like regular porn is okay because he has to watch some other guy have the girl I don't care about that at all. It can be lesbian porn or just a chick and a dildo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 08:06 PM
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What would you call it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 06:50 PM
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it's changing priorities because you failed at getting what you wanted before. I completely disagree. I bet most women wouldn't want to marry the dudes she use to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 06:48 PM
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So then what exactly would first consideration entail?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 04:00 AM
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I picture it highly interactive, where the guys tells the girl what to do and she listens. If it's more like real time porn with no interaction I'd care less.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 03:58 AM
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Serious question; is a guy watching camwhores cheating? Seeing a prostitute is cheating, but watching porn isn't. Camgirls are an interesting inbetween. Personally, I would feel very hurt with my man did this. But I also let him know this beforehand since it is a bit of a gray area.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 02:54 AM
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Thing is that most men aren't worried about divorce rape. And those that are worried will probably not marry regardless. Plus a number of those things can be specified in a prenup. any the innocent party would be given first consideration of custody of the kids. See, that's tricky. I don't like the idea of using kids as rewards (nor do the courts). With the understanding that the kids are innocent parties, courts ought to consider what is in their best interest. And just because someone cheated …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 02:51 AM
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IIRC globally it is very well corralated with education. I think they speculate religion plays a big role.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 12:53 AM
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Unfortunately I think we are in agreement on this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 08:00 PM
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Fuck 'em. If they are too entitled to have a good relationship that's all on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 07:16 PM
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Femininity and masculinity are partly socially constructed, I can't argue with that. capitalism has a huge influence on it. I also can't disagree with this (thanks for trying though), though I would say that culture influences gender norms. Our culture just so happens to be very capitalistic. But I wouldn't blame gender norms on capitalism. If it wasn't capitalism it would be something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 07:14 PM
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Not to mention a prenup only really applies what has been earned before hand and not what has been earned in the marriage most of the time anyway. You can absolutely have it specify how to split assets gained during the marriage, which is why we wanted one. You can also waive rights to alimony in one. My fiance did manage to get to houses in his name (one of which he didn't even pay for), and while he doesn't have a lot of liquid money it would suck if I got half his property.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 07:10 PM
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I'm bored and quarrelsome. Fight me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 06:37 PM
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I am a bit on the fence. Yes, changing your mind is fine. But is it REALLY changing your mind, when you decide you do not want jocks anymore and just wish for stability or is it just extreme lack of jocks that would be interested in your sagging tits/skin and drama etc? See, this is what I was talking about in my thread. You paint the men women sleep with in their youth with such a broad brush. They aren't necessarily fit, or assertive, or anything that fits in the term "jock". And just because …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 06:36 PM
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2 grand is too much for me. It's not like an extra $50 a month. That's a lot of money all at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 05:48 AM
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I get the mixture of the traits. What I don't get it assuming they are related. Why is a person who is an assertive alpha also sexually attractive? Or had good social skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 03:12 AM
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I may not be speaking for every woman here, but I don't want an assertive man. I want a man that respects my opinions and understands that when I say no, I mean no. What I do like is a man who is eager, excited, and lusty. Someone who clearly conveys that he is excited to be with me, but willing to put on the breaks if I say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 01:56 AM
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Okay, setting aside the pedantics, he should clearly express that he may never want kids. I just had that talk with my fiance and I made it abundantly clear that I don't want kids now, I don't think I'll ever want kids, and if he marries me he should be okay with never having kids. Be crystal clear, none of this "I'm not ready yet" bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 01:54 AM
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Biochemistry! I fell in love with chemistry in high school, when I took an AP chemistry class. As I became more involved in research I realized how massive the biological focus is, so I drifted in that direction. I do love biochemistry, but sometimes I want more of an emphasis on organic chemistry. It can often be more bio than chem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 01:51 AM
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You know, I always thought I would sign a prenup. I agree strongly with the idea. But holy fuck guys, no one ever talks about how expensive they are. To do it right would cost about two grand. We don't even want to spend one grand on the wedding. So now I'm suddenly pretty opposed to getting a prenup.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 12:43 AM
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It's about as meaningful as your astrological sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 12:32 AM
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