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Men are required by law to be up for sacrifice(selective service) And conservative men have made it illegal for women to do the same. We also haven't had a draft since before I was born. Men are supposed to work themselves to death for their families. So are women. It's not women in the coal mines. And the vast majority of men aren't either. Moreover, women are in the coal mines and were all the way back in the 1860s as well. CHILDREN were in the coal mines. I've done that type of work, your bod…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 01:10 AM
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Nah, it just means men will fuck us because we are convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:55 AM
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Not random men, just the men those women like and want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:54 AM
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This stuff is annoying. More and more I think men here are digital brains unable to function in an analog world. Equality in the eyes of the law does not mean equality of results. As a woman, a college cannot reject me for being a woman if I meet the standards for admissions - grades, SATs, etc. But that does not mean that I can demand entry if I don't meet the standards. Women don't want relationships as much as men. And women pay a far higher price - socially and bodily - with less reward for …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 12:53 AM
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Oh we can see. We can see that you retreat into vague generalized language and banality when challenged. Is that your idea of deep? I see the issue here, and it isn't women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:57 PM
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"Men are stupid and boring" "No wait, I didn't say ALL men!" That's how you sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:55 PM
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And yet, you can't seem to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:52 PM
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It's weird you can't tell us what you consider deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:51 PM
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He can't. He wants girls to be golden retrievers if he just pays for a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:50 PM
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Yup. Why should they? Do you think men think beyond themselves when getting involved with a woman? No. They say, I want something out of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:50 PM
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Men also choose if and when they have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 04:47 PM
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How did I know it was going to be Italy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:47 PM
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The point is that men should accept the no and move on. You want to be with a woman who plays that game?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:47 PM
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You are healthy, she was not. Be glad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:46 PM
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Men need to move on. That type of cat and mouse game playing needs to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:45 PM
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your gonna be very surprised then. "Many women indeed act like this usually when the tall attractive and wealth guy doesn't commit or simply want nothing to do with her." Doesn't commit? Oh, so he's just fucking her and stringing her on? Well yah if she says I want to date for marriage and he holds it out as a possibility, that's going to lead to a lot of bad feelings. If it's both casual and that's what is set up from the beginning, then life sucks for her. If you deliberately misled her, yah, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:44 PM
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Yes. I did consider it. That's why my standards went way up. Back when I was dating, I realized I was slim, cute, no kids, no debt, no drugs, making very good money in a solid career, and pretty fucking smart. I was a great marriage partner and demanded the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:40 PM
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"Or when men only want casual sex!" We don't care that you want casual sex; we care when you lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:38 PM
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Also note, most women here are married or partnered, so they've obviously met some guy's standards. Let me talk about the value I brought when I was back on the market at 29. I was slim, in shape, no children, no debt, cute, blonde and blue eyed, highly educated, had a great career (money does matter to marrying men), and very easy going for dates, adventures, etc. I'm the kind of person that can go to anything - a monster truck rally, a short track race, a hike in the wilderness - and have fun.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:34 PM
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You guys really do not understand nuance, do you? So I'm curious. For a 1000 years Chinese culture valued foot-binding - little girls literally had their feet broken and went through weeks of torture to become physically deformed. Do you think women should complain about that? or is that just a "preference"? Do you think it's great for guys right now and their mental health to think they only way that they can be attractive is if they are 6 feet, 6 pack, and 6 figures with a 6 inch cock? How do …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:33 PM
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That's fine. Don't date.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:22 PM
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"This new western order when it comes to relationships has frustrated many men who do not want to put in the extra work that previous generations did not, and perhaps that this is something that women should recognize, even if there should be no obligation for them to select men just because they feel sorry for their new struggles." No, I don't think I will. Why? Because men have always known that if they wanted the cream of the crop women, they needed to bring money, looks, and charisma to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:20 PM
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Grateful? To whom? Do you expect black men to thank white men for the end of Jim Crow or being freed? Do you thank your lordship and rich people for letting you have the right to vote?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:04 PM
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But none of these women are lying to get your attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:02 PM
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It’s more like, if personality matters so much, why wouldn’t she date me if she would tolerate a literal abuser…? Lol Because she's likely learned from her mistake and is avoiding abusers in the future. That does not make her obligated to date a non-abuser who has zero going for him when she has the option to remain alone. You all refuse to acknowledge that women as people grow and mature. I'll use myself as an example. My first dating relationship became my first marriage. He was no bueno. I go…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 07:00 PM
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And very few people would criticize you for turning down a single mother with tons of debt and mental health issues. That said, chances are you also have relationship baggage, so... However, if you cannot get a date with a successful, physically fit, well-spoken, funny, educated and kind woman, then you might need to look to your own standards or decide to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:45 PM
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I've never met a 666 girl in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:41 PM
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Our solution is not the least antifeminist? What? Both partners need to provide value to one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 06:41 PM
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counterpoint, the lady country singers rock.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:55 PM
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You are attractive. I have hopes it works out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:52 PM
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I think this is one of the most soulful and insightful comments I've read. I am sending you good karma and wishing you the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:50 PM
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He is hot.... except for that damned rat tail. Why did they do that???
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:47 PM
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But before modern society, writers and philosophers were the only ones considering and expounding on human behavior. Many of the great books that exist from that time are those that accurately captured the nature of humans. See the Decameron, Pride & Prejudice, or anything Thomas Hardy or Charles Dickens wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:46 PM
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If you look at his history, he doesn't understand why no nubile 20-something doesn't want to give up her career to be his tradwife and birth his babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:43 PM
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I didn't think it was, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:41 PM
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Yes even in 2026 CE. Men on this board complain nonstop about women choosing attractive men over them even though they claim to offer value.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:39 PM
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Sounds beautiful I want mermaid hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:29 PM
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I'd be upset for the same reason as L&L below - it's a major medical decision and why didn't my husband feel safe/comfortable enough to discuss with me? It demonstrates there is a major, major, major problem in our marriage. My husband had a health crisis a few months ago. I did a lot of nursing duties. I've seen him at his lowest and his worst (he's a prideful man). Why wouldn't he trust me with that information?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:28 PM
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Well that post got stripped fast. LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:26 PM
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I watched my mom struggle in a basement apartment with a chronic spider problem because my dad decided to cheat with her good friend and leave her. At least she had a teaching career to fall back on. She told me to have a career because you can't count on a man, even after three kids, but I understood anyway. I lived there with her in that spider infested basement apartment. Men can cheat. Men can get sent to jail. Men can be abusive. Men can die. All of these have happened to friends of mine. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:21 PM
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Seriously. Money is freedom in a capitalistic society.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:15 PM
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Seduction from the beginning has been male encoded.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:51 PM
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You are the one arguing vociferously that posters aren't using the word seduction right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:50 PM
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No, I accept the actual definition of the word seduction, not the one you personally come up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:49 PM
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Neither does he. If he'd bothered to do the least research on the term, he'd know it has been male coded since the beginning of the term - you back, back in the 1540s, when feminism was all the rage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:48 PM
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Sees complete nonsense, checks user name, yup. This dude mistakes his "thoughts" for facts while never bothering to crack a history book or, apparently, pay attention to those around him. I bet you claim to be the superior "rational" and fact-driven mind (far more than a mere woman), while vomiting the most ridiculous new age woo about feminine "chaotic energy". Shit, I'm ready for the magic crystals, copper magnetic bracelets, and astrology. Your personal thoughts are no replacement for actual …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:46 PM
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Yes, because they were let go as soon as they got pregnant. My mom was let go from her job each and every time she got pregnant and she had to go try to find a new one after each of us were born.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:28 PM
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Most men can't afford a family on a single salary. Men and women put their salaries into the same bucket to pay bills, so this is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:28 PM
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I absolutely love to climb all over my husband when he comes in sweaty from working outside or on the car. It is absolutely sexy. Men in MOTION. That is where it is at. I still don't do more household chores tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:26 PM
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So in other words, not just in the 1820s. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:25 PM
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"To be clear I don’t begrudge women the right to choose career over being a SAHW/M. I believe they have the right to choose. However, this doesn’t change the real world calculus of that choice. You can’t deprioritize domesticity in favor of careerism and still expect a provider male to come along and free you from the day-to-day soul sucking drudgery of work once it becomes unfulfilling to you. Also, you can’t blame men for desiring a woman still willing to do the trad-wife duties despite having…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 01:24 PM
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There is a double standard where women are given more slack on being emotional than men, generally because society looks at them still as essentially teenagers. That would include jealousy. That said, men regularly here say they will fuck anyone and are only as honest as their options. In fact, here they regularly tell women we should pick ugly guys because those guys would never ever cheat. And any man with options will. Add to that that historically (although this may be changing) men cheat fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:44 AM
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Married men use OF more than single men. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9330933/ You don't even know what the average man as a man and here you are thinking you can pontificate about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:34 AM
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I don't need anyone to lead me. I did fine alone. I don't need men's testosterone in my house either. I do like my husband but I didn't marry him for his strength although he is strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:32 AM
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See also foot binding.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:31 AM
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Body positivity was not about brainwashing men to find fat girls attractive, but to leave them alone
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:31 AM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/social-instincts/201507/when-men-arent-good-looking-they-think https://talker.news/2025/07/23/science-says-men-consistently-overestimate-their-dating-market-value/ That last one says this: Dr. Topinkova said, "Men tended to express interest in women who were more desirable than themselves, while women typically pursued men of more similar desirability. "However, mutual swipes - showing reciprocal interest - mostly occurred between men and women of more sim…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:30 AM
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I did it. 0.78% of the population meet my standards. Conveniently, I married a man in that 0.78% of the population. Why don't' you find one that lets you see how many women are 22-30, non-obese, unmarried, and without kids. Funny how the site doesn't address that. I just looked it up - AI says 1.8 - 2.0 % of the female population. Better start dropping your standards, bro. You only want a tiny tiny percent of the population. I've done the recalculation. When I met my now husband he was 0.78% of …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:21 AM
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nuuuaannnceeee MY EYES MY EYES.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:07 AM
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Karens are married middle aged women with privilege, not femcels.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:07 AM
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Most aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:06 AM
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But you assured me that women are getting their standards blown up by social media. So which is it - is social media accurate or is it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:05 AM
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And it conveniently doesn't let you see whether men's standards are out of wack. I doubt they are open to dating 50 year ladies (unless they are also 50)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:04 AM
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But they can see many many many
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 12:00 AM
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Well if you are chasing superficial girls that's on you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:56 PM
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You need to drop your standards. Obviously they are too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:56 PM
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I think you should be matched with 50 year old Bertha with three kids because I've decided that's your match. Oh, you don't like that? Then leave women alone and let them determine their match.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:55 PM
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Who are you to say what brings another person joy? You may really want a companion or wife, but that doesn't mean a woman does or that it brings her much joy. My sister is a "cat lady." She's slender, athletic, travels all over the world (heading to New Zealand in a bit), horseback rides, and is an IT professional at a University. She's quite intelligent and reasonably happy. She isn't bitter over never marrying or having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:53 PM
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I doubt you pay any attention to the long term single women at all. They aren't out there screaming on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:51 PM
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I'm not surprised. Women are very aware of the dynamics. They know that sex injures their standing and raises his. Why have it? Men have only themselves to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:51 PM
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I think we missed each other. My point is that men think that because women can get sex, women are somehow more deluded than men by the internet. That's not true. Men regularly get sucked into parasocial relationships with women on the Internet and spend thousands of dollars thinking that these women really love them. You don't think that really hits men and their standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:48 PM
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Dude, man, you do not understand. First, Dating is a luxury market, so it is very elastic. Unlike gas or food, which are necessities, no one must have a relationship that moment or that day. People need to eat. People need to put gas in their car (at least in the US). So if they can't afford the filet mignon, they buy the chicken. If they must put food in their bellies, they they have to buy what is available. That is an inelastic market. But dating, no one needs a boyfriend or a husband. So it …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:45 PM
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This is complete male solipsism. It tickles me to death that men continue to think that a woman gets an ego boost off being pumped and dumped. No Bob, you might be thrilled Becky fucked you and kicked you out of bed half dressed to catch a cab, but that's because it's a compliment a girl would deign to fuck you. Tell me how you'd feel Bob if you knew Becky would send ten bucks on a homeless man to eat her out, fuck your brother and your nephew, fuck everyone in your friend circle, your father, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 11:23 PM
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No one bullies Isaac Newton.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:30 PM
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We don't. Not like you do. And G z has less. And we won't the more you call us sluts. You want more sex tell your boys to shut up about n counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 08:28 PM
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so she's right.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:07 PM
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Studies disagree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:06 PM
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And as men tell us, their standards are weight, youth, and agreeableness. If men don't want to change their hedonistic standards, why should women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:04 PM
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Apparently not if they are being complimented.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:03 PM
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True. Better outlaw OF and porn. Can't have men getting unreasonable standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:03 PM
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Only because you see sex as all that matters. Let me introduce you to the Romeo and Juliet schemes where men receive all sorts of communication and text messages to convince them love is just around the corner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:02 PM
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As if men only use porn when they aren't dating. Old married men are all over OF hitting on some 25 year old and sending her money. Interesting how you aren't willing to impose any constraints on what men do, but women need to get right with god on their stannnndarrdsss.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:00 PM
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I am so so tired of this bullcrap that somehow only women are affected by social media and women and their poor little brains just can't understand that Chad would pump and dump them. And only women have this magic reset and if only women would change - never men - we'd all be happy again. Women just *sigh* don't know what is good for them. As if men don't have their standards totally fucked up: The way you all ignore the fact that men are also on dating apps and far more than women. Yet somehow…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:58 PM
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No just people who can't actually answer the arguments I actually raised, so they have to falsely claim I have views that I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:50 PM
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"Post-1900 (speaking in western terms), it's wrong. The large majority of women (and men) reported happy marriages. Unhappy marriages in the single digits. The boomer meme is a meme. In my own experience I've literally never heard a true "I hate my husband/wife" tirade from a silent gen/boomer IRL. I don't think I've ever heard one joke about it." Boomers cannot lead the divorce rate for every generation and yet have unhappy marriages in the single digits.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:36 PM
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LOL. Have you written great books, done great art, poetry or philosophy? No? Then why are you stealing the achievements of better men. Never heard of Jane Austin? Sylvia Plath? Emily Dickinson? Toni Morrison (Beloved knocked my socks off). What about Georgia O'Keefe, Frida Kahlo? Sofonisba Anguissola? Can't help that you are uneducated and ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:34 PM
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: There is a time for caring about others and there is a time for getting what I want. Two parts of the agreement to be fulfilled at different moments. If you love someone, you don't use them to "get what you want" over their pain, misery, and discomfort. I'd never fuck my husband while he clearly hated it. And if he could fuck me while I cried or starfishes because he's using my body irrespective of my feelings, he'd be gone. That isn't love. And if you can "compartmentalize" love so you can hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:59 AM
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And "I've never heard that boomer meme about the ball and chain" =/= all marriages were happy and devoted. To the contrary, if they were, their asses wouldn't be divorcing. Hell, boomers are leading gray divorces now. And those "remarriages"? What are their failure rates again? Just admit your silly "well no one ever called their spouse a ball and chain" is a silly metric for whether those marriages were happy. If they were, no divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:55 AM
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I have a 15 year old and a 17 year old. I also have solid friends from age 22 all the way to above my age. I've personally been off the market for quite a while, but supported and was a sounding ear to both my two kids through their first dates and also with my older single friends. Go on, tell me I have no idea about dating these days. "If you really agree with OP that women routinely murdered their husbands out of dissatisfaction... You're insane." Did I say that, or did you need to claim I to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:52 AM
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You think she isn't doing something in the relationship? She just sits there? The more you say this, the more you prove Cloud's point. Men don't want to spend time with women, don't want to speak to women, go on trips with women, enjoy a band with women? Men don't want to have kids with women? Save retirement with women? Do chores with women around the house so they both have something nice? All of those are just ways to get regular sex. And if you could get regular sex without having to speak t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:36 AM
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"not to mention that a very different social and cultural narrative was pushed on TV by media companies in the 50s or whatever." 50 years ago was the seventies. That was dead in the middle of sex, drugs, and rock and roll. That was dead in the center of color television. We'd already passed beyond sex symbol Elvis (on the massive down slope and mocked for being fat) and the Beatles hit. All the high status men conveyed were tall, handsome, and athletic. People were traveling far more. College ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:29 AM
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Truth - especially not caring about your inner life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:06 AM
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I personally find most men fine, not disappointing, as friends and coworkers. Most but not all of the men I am around day in and day out are highly educated, intelligent, well in control of their emotions, and driven. Why I find some men to be disappointing can be summed up into two words: lazy and dishonesty. Laziness: I find too many men too lazy to do maintenance and it seeps in everywhere. They aren't interested in keeping their houses clean or picked up, they let grass get out of control, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 07:04 AM
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Does Dan Savage still do Hump! Ah, I googled and he does. That's pretty artisanal porn. I'd imagine women are far more likely to enjoy that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:30 AM
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Come on, you don't need to be so TMI
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:27 AM
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Some porn that follows certain story lines, yes. The vast majority, no. In fact some of it can down right turn me ice cold off. Otherwise I prefer erotica.' Edited to add - I've watched porn with husband before. He can watch it if he wants, too. But in 19 years of marriage I only walked in on him one time looking at naked women. He literally switched it off. Just redheads (I know he has a thing). He did it to not hurt my feelings, even though he knows I really do not care.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:22 AM
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Woman here. As you've phrased it, there is no difference in morality - all she cares about is the money. But one of the characteristics that money can signal in a self-made man is high competence, intelligence, diligence, and hard work. All of those are valuable in a spouse - I don't care your gender. So a self-made millionaire is more attractive than a lout like Trump, who'd be nothing but a used car salesman without inheriting his daddy's money. I think it is more moral to be attracted to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 06:19 AM
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More like, women give birth to babies, art, philosophy, poetry and literature.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:49 AM
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So men are violent since they play violent games
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:48 AM
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She can withdraw consent at any time. That means that he can't enforce what he is demanding - I won't do a second date unless you fuck me. I wish she'd done it and just turned his ass down and gone home.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:42 AM
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So he lied. Thanks. Men themselves are the most egregious misandrists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:30 AM
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You think showing up for a date is "doing something" that she isn't also doing? You are both spending time together.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:29 AM
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So, she was clearly not just offering her body since she refused to offer her body. Smart to send him on his way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:28 AM
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"Some discernment is needed here, dating apps are the f boy zoo, so it’s kinda on her if she got burned." This is hilarious. Meanwhile, men bitch non stop about how women won't respond on apps. Perfect example how women are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they are on apps and respond and get lied to - "well you should have known better!" and if they either jettison the apps or are extremely selective - "women's standards are too high! women don't want to date! women don't want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:25 AM
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You probably should get your facts straight first
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:23 AM
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I'm sapiosexual. I spoke to most men who contacted me with more than a "hey." I didn't rule them out based on height or pictures. But I did if the values weren't aligned. And even as a sapiosexual I was athletic and wanted someone also interested in health and healthy living. Note, that didn't mean he needed to be built, have a six pack or be skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:21 AM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:12 AM
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So odd how this only seems to affect women and never men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:11 AM
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This is laughable. This shows how little you research history or even think. Everyone had a tv on and for hours. Everyone had magazines and playboys. Everyone saw tons of advertising with tall handsome built men and slender women. And no, major metro areas and universities existed 50 years ago. Men joined the military. Families traveled for jobs. We weren't stuck with those in our home town. "in fact for most of human history, carrying extra weight was seen as desirable." Having a little pooch, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:11 AM
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n my own experience I've literally never heard a true "I hate my husband/wife" tirade from a silent gen/boomer IRL. I don't think I've ever heard one joke about it. Boomers divorce more than any other generation. I'm sure they were super happy. You may not have heard it, but women did - from their grandmothers, their mothers, their aunts. That' why none of those women are encouraging girls to forgo an education and career to find a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:06 AM
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Our goal isn't to brutalize ourselves for your personal selection. This type of attitude is so disgusting. As if women should govern their lives for nameless strange men rather than what should benefit me. I don't bitch that men need to get off their fat asses so that they are tempting sexually. And I never see women around here express that. Yet, for some reason, men think random women owe those men to be sexually pleasing. Well, sorry, those women are more interested in living their lives in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:42 AM
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Yes, but back then, you were fat. LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:27 AM
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So don't date those women. It's not your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:10 AM
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I live in a college town. Plenty of coeds with guys less than six feet tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 01:08 AM
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No, he owes her honesty and not to lie. But hey, fine, a woman can lie about having herpes or the clap or Aids to get you to fuck her right? She can say "no baby, i'm clean" and that will be fine right? After all, she doesn't owe you honesty or a risk free fuck. "women here already defend lying about the pill." Post it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:45 AM
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Some women absolutely bait and switch over sex, sorry. If you fuck like rabbits and do all sorts of crazy shit and then the second the ring is on it you shut off the spigot, that's a bait and switch. It's not about overriding consent or demanding that sex never change, but if you go from 100 to zero, it's a bait and switch. My husband would never demand I have sex when I didn't want to, but if I went from the high sex kitten I was before to a nun after, he'd have good reason to feel misled. If y…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:41 AM
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It's not a punishment behavior or a manipulation behavior (or at least not always - some men do absolutely act like asses and sulk over not getting sex.) Instead, it's a flood of happy relaxation hormones - like having a full night sleep for once or a good hard work out - and all these happy hormones and endorphins etc flood the body and men (and women too - a well fucked woman if I may be so crude is a happier one) are generally in a better mood. My husband one time was very grumpy about someth…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:50 AM
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I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:47 AM
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I'll point out a lot of guys over there don't like duty sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:46 AM
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Keep in mind, he's an admitted psychopath. That's why this statement is laughable: "I can value both." You cannot have emotional connection with someone if you don't give a shit how they feel about having sex with you, as long as they do it. He doesn't value emotional intimacy because he doesn't understand it. I'm trying to imagine fucking my husband knowing he'd rather crawl away and it turns the blood in my veins to ice. Becuase I love him and becuase I love him, I deeply care about his feelin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:45 AM
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Becuase that person said he'd deliberately lie. Now physical harm is no good. But getting sex under false pretenses is nonconsensual. If you disagree, you'd be fine with a woman lying about being on the pill right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:39 AM
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"But again, finding sex to be an important, even the most important, part of life is not in itself even selfish." It is selfish. So, if she's sick or she gets pregnant or is breast feeding, she isn't worht your loyalty. You'll toss her out? And this goes the other way too. You get ED, your wife is authorized to go fuck other men. After all sex is the most important thing!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:38 AM
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I think you are identifying a trend - some men do all this romance and then stop. But some women do the bait and switch around sex too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:36 AM
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I don't mean it as bragging. It's like look, you can build something amazing with average. It's possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:35 AM
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The trick in marriage at least from my n=1 is deciding to always turn to each other and reach out. She reaches out to let go of the resentment. He reaches out to make sex better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:32 AM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:31 AM
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Here's 2500 years of philosophy. Let me know what you figure out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:29 AM
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Why a good marriage is amazing: the female reproductive system can be delicate. My system got out of wack such that I started to have issues every time we had sex. I told him we had to stop until I could get it sorted. He put zero pressure on me. I went to multiple doctors because the idea of going the rest of my life without sex with my husband was unacceptable to me. It's been sorted. The bedroom games are back on the menu. We are just average people you'd probably never glance at as we walk b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:24 AM
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Yah, hobosexuals are a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:23 AM
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Ah yes, here comes the subtle threats of violence. They always sneak in - either we have to fuck and pair with me we don't like and wreck our bodies to make their babies or men will hurt us. Is that what you tell your wife? Give me your body willingly or I'll hurt you? Does it work? Does it make her want to sleep with you? Do you tell her you were willing to strip women of their legal rights if she hadn't married you, fucked you, and had your children? Is that what you'll tell your daughters? Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:19 AM
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See, I saw plenty of good looking nice guys get girls too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:42 PM
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It's not horseshit. It's quite common in traditional households.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:41 PM
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It was my mom's and she made sure to tell it to us girls too
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:40 PM
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So many things are wrong with this, particularly on a historical scale. First, casual sex has been dropping like a rock since the boomer generation. Even with the advent of the pill, women still don't want and do not have as much sex as men do. So yes, pill or no, my point stands - men want sex far more than women do. Second, you've smoked the Victorian propaganda if you think men or women had sex predominately with the goal of procreation ever. Sure, the church tried in the middle ages to shame…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:35 PM
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There is no way to separate culture from nature in humans. There is no "natural" form of homo sapien that does not include culture. Don't believe me? Well as my old anthro/linguistics professor said - "try thinking without using words."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:55 PM
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No, we don't want to be used.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:58 PM
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Interesting. What has changed so much since the last time they were on the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:55 PM
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Your experiences are going to be so interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:53 PM
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"100 years ago, she could have been glad if her looksmatch took her in." I bet if we made men all serfs, they'd be desperate if even an ugly woman took him in if it freed him from serfdom. What you are describing is not the free market, but a market that deliberately used severe financial restraint to artificially lower the value of women while simultaneously artificially increasing the value of men. Now we are closer to a free market where men and women have access to the same education, employ…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:51 PM
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We don't. At least not out the door. Now once we are dating he better start.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:40 PM
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And how would you know that she fucked other men in the past like a crazy person and giving you crumbs? Instagram?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:40 PM
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But that isn't what women are saying to their men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:39 PM
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It's choice to worry, though. That is what you keep missing. Do you wonder if your wife worries where she's the best you've ever had? This is my question to men who aren't virgins but go after women who are (not saying you specifically did). These guys (again not you) seem to focus entirely on wanting to feel that they are the best without seeming to care whether the woman is worried or concerned that she isn't the best. So they can fuck 20 girls but marry the virgin becuase "he knows he's her '…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:37 PM
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Ah, gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:29 PM
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Yah I despise it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:27 PM
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"since its constantly reeinforced by simp males, just in the hopes to get with her, thus driving up her SMV, to where it definitely does not belong....." But if she has all these guys wanting to get with her, doesn't that mean she is more demand as a potential mate? Looking at it economically, that's how the price is set?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:21 PM
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I'd like to see evidence of this and that men aren't also equally impacted by social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:20 PM
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But you also have more options.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:19 PM
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"Some tall, handsome guy doesn't need to cook or do any chore while his high achieving gf funds his lifestyle." ???? There are only so many Madonnas out there looking for a boy toy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:16 PM
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I learned to cook by starting at the first page of Joy of Cooking and moving on through. Also, you can bring other skills. Maybe you are a so so cook, but if you aren't shy about a mop or folding laundry (fuck I hate that)....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:16 PM
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Like this stuff really bothers me. Every human being is intrinsically valuable in and of themselves and to the functioning of society. I am well aware that for fecundity (growing of the population), the limiting biological factor is female reproduction. That's how we track mammalian populations in ecology. As a consequence, for raw population purposes, a larger number of males may be lost and still the population can recover. So sure, losing young men in war won't necessarily destroy the continu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 07:13 PM
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Not you, the OP. But you've shown zero critical thinking skills or intuition. Or what it's like to raise small kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:09 PM
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She isn't a baby momma, she's an ex wife. But yes, I can tell you are utterly ignorant of what it takes to raise small kids; that's why you think it's entirely fine to fuck off, see his children every other weekend, all in the name of freedom. Divorces happen. But OP's failure to remain present and active in his own kids' life is an indictment of him, not the divorce. But in these things life has a way of paying someone out. He'll get the natural consequences of his actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:08 PM
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Why would anyone marry someone who has such low morals as to abandon their children. Blech.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:03 PM
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As if I'd date someone of such low morals as to put some vague feeling of "freedom" over the health and wellbeing of their children. If you desire freedom to go fuck others or not have to deal with your spawn day in and day out? I'd say you are a shitty choice for an LTR. If you put your personal feeling of "freedom" over being there when the kid is sick and puking nonstop, you are a shitty parent and a shitty choice for an LTR. God, I hope you don't have kids. There are days I wish I could fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 04:01 PM
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"It's not that difficult to become a guy's best if a woman is enthusiastic and willing to learn." So she wasn't when you started, but yet you still married her. "Sucks to be that guy I guess." It did suck for him. He got left and cried about it. He was certainly not a virgin when I met him. He was selfish. He wasn't "willing to learn." And that's why it's bullshit all these guys squealing over whether she had better before because they need to do is to be willing to learn. They aren't. And sweat…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:49 PM
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Studies show that the religious aren't more compassionate or more moral.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:42 PM
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So you don't mind sampling the wares to see who is the best but you are confident you are also her best? Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:40 PM
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Good point. And yet they whine when those of us with a lot of experience with sex and sex in relationships post.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:37 PM
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like 9ish/10ish. Once they start being independent for activities of daily living. (note, it may never reach the same quantity again, but it definitely will get better)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:36 PM
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She's so turbulent and unhealthy and YET you still leave the kids with her the majority of the time. Uh huh
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:33 PM
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If you want an uncommitted relationship with someone who is going to dump you with a 2 year old and 6 year old to have his "freedom" to fuck other women while you do all the grunt work, knock your fucking self out, but don't come crying home to me. This is why women don't want kids anymore. Who wants to be saddled with all the responsibility while the father larks off to fuck Just Fisherman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:32 PM
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"he wanted his freedom" means he's a shitty choice for any LTR>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:30 PM
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LOL. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:28 PM
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Based on your post history, you are a terrible prospect for right thinking woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:26 PM
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That makes him worse. Either he's a deadbeat who won't invest in his own kids - that makes him shitty Or he is involved but I'd have to deal with the kids. Better, but don't want to when I was single.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:24 PM
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Seriously, so often those guys immediately assume you should just like kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:23 PM
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When I was single (no kids at the time), I'd never date a man with kids, so it would reduce his overall desireability to near zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:22 PM
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Here is the thing. If a woman posted she needed an average sized man because her last man was huge, so it was painful and they were really limited in their positions as a consequence, would you draw the conclusion that big dicks are bad? Or would you continue to consider a big dick a benefit? Because numerous women have said that a dick that is too big is painful and not fun; yet, you seem to discount all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:20 PM
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Here here. Exactly. When the kids were little, our sex life was quickies. Now, though....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:17 PM
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Men absolutely compare their past partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:17 PM
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What point am I missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:16 PM
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Exactly. And I bet if your future wife wasn't the best in bed, you'd still give her your all in bed, treat her well, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:15 PM
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I never compared my ring to my friends, you weirdo. Date an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:12 PM
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Let's ignore the fact that the law changed to allow for much easier divorce. Nah, that couldn't have had an impact. It has to be the sex!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:11 PM
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Cool. Then don't whine if no woman takes a chance on you ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:07 PM
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He's not a hypocrite if he's also a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:06 PM
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Love a man who walks the walk.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:06 PM
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She's your best right? Because you weren't a virgin. PS, I was a virgin for my first husband. Sex was still mediocre. I remember thinking "is this all there is? damn, my hand was better."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:04 PM
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Seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:02 PM
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Just because you weren't her best lay doesn't mean she is treating you badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:01 PM
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Because you treat her well? You ready to marry the best woman in bed even though she smokes weed all the time and can't hold down a job?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 03:00 PM
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I love this question because it demonstrates: (1) that guy's standards, despite their claims to the contrary, are really high for a relationship. It isn't just that she needs to be young, skinny, and "agreeable," she also can't have fucked Chad or had better sex. (2) So, guys, you ready to stop bitching about women's standards then right? Because you don't get it both ways - you can't demand that you be the very best a woman has ever had AND whine that women have super high standards and won't t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:59 PM
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Unfortunately, it seems that OLD has been invaded by OF girls, scammers, and guys just looking for a quick lay. It results in an extremely low trust environment, so people just leave or become very jaded. I don't know what the easy answer is. We used to find people through high school and college because we were all thrown together with generally eligible single members of the opposite sex. Once you are out of school that is gone. It makes it very hard to just meet people and know that they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:18 PM
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I believe that. I think OLD is not great.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:13 PM
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I know. I think there is a real change in OLD. Far more bots, far less real people, and far more players. I don't know how it is fixable. The women looking for a real connection get chased away. The decent men get drowned out. It in no way shocks me I was there for just a week or two.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:12 PM
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Everyone gives Lilith static her last one got engagement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 11:10 PM
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This wasn't tender but match.com (and a while ago). At that time for match, you'd get pics/profiles pushed, but you'd message. I was only on there for about a week or so at that point so I hadn't gotten cynical. He sent me a funny message that stood out. I answered because his profile matched what I was looking for - intelligent, a professional**, career minded, not religious, right age range, and his picture was "good enough." I started conversations with lots of guys because I really do enjoy …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 08:50 PM
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I like Sexton
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:49 PM
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There is a very good reason for secular people to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:49 PM
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Yes, this is right. There is also a post nup, too. And - Term can correct me since I am out of my area of practice - you can't use it to control child support obligations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:49 PM
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I think she means now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:44 PM
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No because women weren't given access to high paying jobs, but alimony is now gender neutral. Men do get alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:44 PM
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I think it depends on why one is struggling. Look, I met my husband through OLD. I was neutral to his picture. He did have a funny intro. He really had issues with OLD because he's 5/7. He targeted me because I set my height filter at 5/6 or 5/8. Can't remember. He got dates but not great ones. I met him in person and went from neutral to 100% in his favor because he has charisma. He really fucking does. He absolutely does better in real life. I do too. If one doesn't fall into the stereotypical…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:41 PM
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"There is a layer of additional harshness, disdain and resentment towards men which has nothing to do with nature but with a feminist culture that is overall hostile to men." Have you considered what that might be in response to since it comes along with the rise in social media? Men tell women that they are worthless unless they are skinny, pretty, and 25. They tell us we are all harridans. They run telegrams discussing how to rape, how to lie, how to spin plates. We have to set up facebook pag…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:29 PM
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My point is that the societal pressure is constantly on WOMEN, not on men, to pair up. And I'm fucking sick of it. Women are supposed to take all of the downside while men take all the upside. When women stop wanting to couple, it's women that need to change, men are just expected to be horny little dudes spreading their seed. It's the water we've swum in, and I am so over it. "Well we need to couple and have kids,' Okay and why are you focusing on women's standards? Where is your discussion of …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:22 PM
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"Most men say don't be fat." Men can't even accomplish "don't be fat" themselves, so tell me how hard that is. And if it is easy why do over 90 % of men and women fail. But moving on.... Look at what they do, not what they say. - Michelle Obama isn't fat and was called an ape. Venus Williams wasn't fat nor her sister. Still called ugly and too masculine. - Age. Men find women in the mid twenties the most attractive. I'm sure staying 25 forever is possible. - Have to have an hour glass figure. - …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:09 PM
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literally the same for men though. An unattractive man isn't going to find you attractive if you aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:03 PM
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Fifty Shades of Grey - > Johnson is just as good looking as Dornan. She's All That - > Cook is just as if not more attractive as Prinze. They put her in glasses and paint splattered clothes. 10 Things I Hate About You - > Yah julia stiles is so ugly. She's close to or on par with Ledger. I admit, Ledger was damned attractive. HAIRSPRAY - > agreed Trainwreck (Amy Schumer and John Cena) - > ageed. The Dark Knight - > no. Bale and Dawes are comparable. Maybe Bale is a little better because he's edg…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 07:01 PM
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Actually that is excellent advice for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:50 PM
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Hi, here is the deal. When you split, either you or the default state system will decide how to divvy shit up. No matter what, though, you want a way to divvy it up. All you ahve to do is watch one long time cohabitating couple break up to see the benefit. If you don't like how the default state system does it, then get a prenup. I recommend career women especially get prenups so that any set backs due to having kids is appropriately and adequately compensated. It's a great conversation starter …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:49 PM
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Sure, let's lock men up who skip out on child support. Not threaten like we do now do it. Let's do a dna registry for men so they can't dodge their obligations to kids and maybe catch a few rapists too. Sure, let's require men to marry by age 25 or pay 20x. Let's super charge living together than transforms into marriage level. Let's block men from career advancement. until they marry. That way they can focus their energies on getting a mate instead of fucking around through their twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:36 PM
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False - u shaped curve actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:29 PM
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guess society better start paying for babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:29 PM
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And I've seen the exact opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:28 PM
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"A) Not fairly evaluating the man's input (this is the most common thing I see...esp. discounting a man's earnings)" When women make as much as men and work the same hours, excuse me if I don't give a shit. I made more than my first husband. I guess he should have been pluffing my pillow and cooking me every dinner, but he didn't, because we worked similar hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:27 PM
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men would rather watch civilization collapse than to make themselves more appealing to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:25 PM
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Doesn't matter. She isn't being offered Momoa. Men would put up with a lot of have Scarlett Johanson in their bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:25 PM
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"If, and it is a big if, women's selectivity levels are growing to a point where society can't get enough coupling, we shouldn't just assume this is all biology..." And yet when it was men who were refusing to settle, were "peter pans", and didn't want to have kids - and yes, I was there and I remember the narrative - no one talked about punishing men or stripping their rights. He could play around, date girl after girl, high five from the bros! Instead, the onus was on women to lock him down an…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:23 PM
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"Most women don't want to do what one needs to do to achieve a decent lifestyle and continue to do it until they die." As an attorney, this is so fucking insulting. Try running a hospital or a school without women. Try running a lawfirm.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 06:01 PM
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Once again, men here reveal that their only judge of a successful man is how many women he fucks. He could be a dirt bag drug dealer destined for a life behind bars and an early grave, but if he fucks twelve heroine druggies with no teeth in the back of a sagging trailer, he's the biggest Chad. I've already said my now boss would be considered a Chad by looks. Partner at a large lawfirm, six feet, full head of hair, military, former athlete, funny as hell, and utterly devoted to his wife and chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:57 PM
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Nah, men and women like variety. Many men are great.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:48 PM
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I don't give a fuck if you are black, blue or green. SOCIETY has always told humans exactly what is generally attractive to women and LONG PREDATES redpill. I referred to the "tall dark and handsome" trope because that is a common American english description that has existed in the venacular since the 1920s. Redpill isn't new or novel. It's repackaging what society has always said - that there is a kind of man that women have always found attractive. (I don't want to get into colorism which is …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:49 PM
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The most OCD person I know was a man
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:43 PM
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I've done the male chores too. It's not that hard to mow the lawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:42 PM
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Alimony is rare (10%) and is mostly temporary when it is awarded. Child support is to take care of your kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:41 PM
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Divorced men remarry faster than divorced women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:40 PM
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No, they do real labor. That's why divorced men run so fast back to being married.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:38 PM
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Doesn't change the fact that society recognized long before redpill that tall dark and handsome was a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:36 PM
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Dads are such utter losers for running out on their kids. They can wrap their dicks if they don't want kids. It's gross that you think men should be able to fuck indiscriminately and leave the woman to clean up the mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:34 PM
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"It is still a shame that we gave women any kind of responsibility though" "You can be independent and have no responsibility." Bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:32 PM
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No, doll, that was you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:31 PM
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"Guys want exclusive and consistent sex with one woman of a similar body count. Simple." LMAO.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:30 PM
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This sounds great. good on you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:27 PM
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tis is all really interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:23 PM
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Yes how else would you be able to trap a woman unless you render them into perpetual dependents.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:21 PM
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I find him attractive. He has beautiful eyes and a bumping body. K. Reeves never did anything for me. Jacob Elordi and Oscar Isaac though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:20 PM
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Yah, like She's All That.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:17 PM
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The Truth about Cats and Dogs is the only one I know from the 90s that reversed the Cyrano/Roxanne love story. That was where the handsome guy falls for the ugly girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:16 PM
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Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:15 PM
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Yah dads are such losers running out on their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:14 PM
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tall dark and handsome existed long before redpill. Redpill thinks its discovered some special new truth, but men have known for years that athletic tall charming rich men do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:14 PM
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Men like Clavicular are encouraging really dangerous shit. It wasn't good for women to be held to a very unrealistic body standard; it isn't good for men either. Boys are developing the same kind of body dismorphia as women. It's not a good trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:12 PM
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You think parents are going to tell you how to have lots of casual sex? My dad was never going to tell me - "x, your legs and ass are some of your best features, hike up your skirt and keep it tight. Guess he doesn't know what men are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:10 PM
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Yes but then you get older and realize as a teen that your mom (or your dad for girls) isn't going to give you that kind of advice accurately. My dad was never going to tell me - "x, your legs and ass are some of your best features, hike up your skirt and keep it tight.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:09 PM
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That's interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:04 PM
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"he point is that we can't psychologically get over some things if presented in certain ways and contexts." Then put the blame where it lays - social media and porn that mainlines bullshit rage into our eyeballs and makes us envy envy envy and destroys our self esteem by presenting us with curated fantasies as reality. What you refuse to acknowledge is that women go through this too. We watch all the boys act stupid over stacy. You'll say "oh it's different because you get sex!" Yah, mediocre se…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:54 PM
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" so long as they are confident that that attraction generated over time is not on some qualitatively different and lower level than the immediate attraction felt for 'Chad', as they call it." Tough shit. I'm never going to be as hot as Scarlett Johanson. So?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:50 PM
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"But men can't have it rubbed in their faces that some men do seem to generate very fast desire." I read this, and I all I want to say is pobrecito - poor poor little boy. Let me shed a fucking tear. GROW THE FUCK UP. These same men crying over watching women chase hot guys had zero - ZERO - problem acting like lovelorn fools over some hot chick while ignoring the mid girl next to them. Every mid girl has watched men go stupid over some super hot Stacy just to get a whiff of their perfume. So cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 03:48 PM
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And that's why guys here fail so much. They want to be the NPC Kaneau Reeves who any or every woman will climb. But most men aren't and never will be that guy that scores two new hot 25 year olds every weekend. So if you want regular sex, you have to establish a relationship. Married men have more sex and regular sex. That means you have to think about who the vagina is attached to - what kind of woman do you like and what kind of woman will like you and go for that type of woman. You want to ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:49 PM
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No, they want to fuck many women. It has nothing to do with liking women, only wanting to fuck them. Men know it; and women know it. That's why the pump and dump exists and so many men here constantly "warn" women how they can't go near Chad because Chad just wants to use them. And why so many men claim they can't ever turn down sex or be selective because if they're selective, they'll never get sex. So stop the bullcrap. Wanting to stick your penis in a woman just means you find her sexually at…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:35 PM
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You probably need to look in the mirror then.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:21 PM
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As I said, you are acting in pure bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:20 PM
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TomHolland for the win
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:39 AM
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You probably should stop sleeping with so many people if that's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:39 AM
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Do you tell everyoe on the first date how many women you've slept with?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:38 AM
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As if it was only n-count that prevent men from committing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:37 AM
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I so get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:36 AM
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Seems like the most desirable men would fuck other mens slut wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:33 AM
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"Meaning that you have access to sex/men that you could have and desire but realize this will damage your relationship prospects, because of the tabooness of the sexual act, or the man, or how you feel you will be perceived by other men." No. I do what I like when I like. Men don't limit their sexuality based on fear of what a future wife would or would not like. That does not mean that I didn't say no. I did that a lot. I wasn't interested in pulling trains or three somes. I wasn't interested i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:30 AM
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"A woman with whom men can find peace rather than challenge. A woman who isn't trying to get into a dick measuring contest with us all the fucking time. A non-masculine woman." But we don't want you. That's the point. You thnk all women are supposed to be what you want, so you can pick and choose. Nah. I don't need a husband who can't handle a challenge or a debate once in a while. Or a husband that requires me to be less than so he can feel more than. Plenty of women just don't want an insecure…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:26 AM
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I love how you start all noble and high faluting of a woman offering her "mind, body, and spirit" to a man and it just devolved into petty insecurity. \You admit that you can't turn a woman down for sex so "women are the gatekeepers" and admit you'd fuck anything - "All we do is try our chances with as many women as we can until one of them concedes." All she has to do is say yes, and you'll be on her like white on rice. So you don't think sex is intimate or is reserving body and spirit for your…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:24 AM
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Did you offer your restraint to your wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:05 AM
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It's worked out just fine, boyo
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:05 AM
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And yet, most women aren't virgins on their wedding day. I'll let my husband know that he didn't see me as a serious woman because I wasn't a virgin and in fact had been previously married. It's only been two kids and 19 years. Also, we aren't voles - pair bonding is bullshit. It always amuses me though, somehow men never think that pairbonding is just as applicable against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:04 AM
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False: an obelisk, column, large statue, etc., formed of a single block of stone. a single block or piece of stone of considerable size, especially when used in architecture or sculpture. something having a uniform, massive, redoubtable, or inflexible quality or character. www.dictionary.com If materials change it is not a single block of stone, it is not uniform. In addition, women may be higher in social cohesion than men, but that does not mean they are identitical. And if we were, men wouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:37 AM
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"You can take the male gender role." I wish I could have. I used to dream of being a man when I was a kid. No need to always temper my responses, I could be direct. No one would assume I was bad at math or science. In regards to your first two comments, these have nothing to do with being second class citizens. Higher life expectancy - sign me up. Men should start valuing healthcare, avoid highly risky drugs, and risk 3x-4x less chance of suicide - sign me up. Men should start valuing mental hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:30 AM
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That wasn't an emotional argument, that was a metaphor. It also could serve as an analogy as well. And yes, that's exactly what you sound like. There was no law at the time that white hotels had to exclude black people, it's just convenient that they did so. I invite you to read Heart of Atlanta Hotel v. USA, 379 U.S. 241 (1964). You aren't on the sides of angels here. https://www.oyez.org/cases/1964/515
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:21 AM
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As most of the women around here are married or paired, you'd be wrong. Evidently, we've found decent men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:10 AM
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I loved the above "women don't do anything in relationships."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:10 AM
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"Women dont do anything in relationships." Perfect example of why it's pointless to listen to men or twist yourselves in knots.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:09 AM
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No. I value my husband's opinion. Everyone else is noise and useless. You see it here all the time: half the guys are like "she better have low n count." The other half are like "she better fuck me by date three." Those are completely contradictory bits of advice. So its really pointless to pay attention to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:07 AM
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"Yes you dont see how men try learn everything about women and then talk like expert and live revolve around it?" Not really. I see them talking about getting buff and making money and learning game. But that's like telling a girl to dress nice and lose weight. Guys here don't actually care about getting down in the weeds about attracting the kind of girl they'd like or giving up on the tinest bit of pussy. They all want to turn themselves into NPCs - generic hot guy - without thinking about who…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:05 AM
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These aren't successful guys usually
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:01 AM
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Sure. It is a person thing. It takes a very special very strong person not to walk on someone who lays themselves out like a doormat
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:00 AM
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Right? Get them to pay attention to what comes out of your mouth, not your tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:57 AM
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Because most women want a long term relationship so the goal is to attract a certain kind of man, not all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:57 AM
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What changed? I grew up. I realized that twisting myself into a knot to be something I wasn't to "perform feminity" or be what guys "liked" made me miserable and resulted in worse treatment from men. I realized all the shit about being a good homemaker, a virgin, a proper woman with my legs closed, or having good values or sharing interests or doing what ever he wanted or cooking for him and taking care of him got me used, exhausted, and wiped out. Men will use you if you let them. And they don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:54 AM
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Yup it is a fools errand.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:31 AM
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My sister was abused by our step brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:33 AM
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You are doing a great job of that yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:32 AM
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Sucks he didn't want to be involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:32 AM
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Yeah, and I don't want "paper abortions"; I want "no child support unless you can prove a rape in court, or have a contract." If you don't want child support, don't have a kid. It has nothing to do with a "contract" and has everything to do with parents' obligations - yes both men and women - to support their kids. And it BELONGS to the kids, not the mother. Don't like it? Raise it with all those assholes who ditched their kids with the mom, leaving them in poverty and reliant on government supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:31 AM
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Plenty do, boyo.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:12 AM
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That talk or email stat in intresting, but sometimes mothers police comunication and cry harassment etc, but that 27% doesn't say why or say that it's a choice on teh fathers part LMAO. Show me any jurisdiction in the US that refuses to award a father some custody or visitation? One that gives her 100% over his protests? No, then we KNOW that chunk of father's don't give a shit. No fuck your support, that's not fatherhood, that is using the father as an atm. I want to see custody please https://…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:11 AM
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I wouldn't touch you with a fucking ten foot pole.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:03 AM
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Aren't you the one behind Revtrad?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:01 AM
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Multiple people have given you cites, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:00 AM
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ou see men try understand what type of men your into. we spend a lot of time on seeing your behaviour and trying to come to conclusion. how much time you spend learning about men? There has been a sea change in this one. Growing up, women spent so much time educating themselves on what men want - cosmo articles, self help books, cotillian, older women/older sisters. do you change thing you do based on opinion from men? or would you? ever? when I was young and stupid I did. Then I learned that me…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:59 AM
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Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:54 AM
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Six months plus ago I was saying AI was not cheap enough. Now it's everywhere. No shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:53 AM
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Damn. I want England to win because Mexico has some of the worst fans - putos all the way down.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:49 AM
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Like you don't think there are reasons rooted in biology that women slip easier into a stepmom role than men slip into the stepdad role? No, I don't. I think it's pure socialization that men write off as "well she's biologically meant to be a mother!" Women didn't have a choice when their main and only route to some kind of financial security and societal protection was through marriage. She was expected to come in and take over the kids after wife one died. By the way, men were too. And then we…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:48 AM
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Sorry, lady. Men think that just because we have ovaries we are all mothering.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 01:32 AM
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"A woman needs to have serious genetic defects to be viewed as ugly meanwhile a man only needs to be around average or just slightly below for women to view him as ugly." "Similarly most women can qualify as beautiful but only a subset of men can qualify as attractive. This is something even women themselves acknowledge when they vent about how rare/difficult it is to find an actually attractive guy" Facts not in evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:57 AM
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"They could, this is feminist revisionism. There's no law at the time that banks could't." And there was no law at the time that compelled them to do so. You sound like a southern politician defending jim crow in the 60s. I have no idea what that last gobbledy gook meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:55 AM
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Same as it ever was.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:52 AM
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"They core higher in conformity and social cohesion." That does not mean that they are a monolith. Please disabuse yourself of black and white thinking in an analog world. "Men were first class citizens neither, never were." That's a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:51 AM
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I'd marry you!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:45 AM
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This is funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:45 AM
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Honestly, this is a good view of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:44 AM
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You don't even have kids. What is all this rage at women allegedly using custody to abuse men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:40 AM
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Correct. I don't think this dude is a native english speaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:38 AM
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"I mean I really don't give a cshit how much harder it is for single mothers to parent without a co-parent, because they are mostly choosing it; they can give the father 50% off the books and choose not to" Evidence? Because the evidence that I know is that men will just refuse to show up and take their kids on their days off. Mothers can't force men to show up if they refuse. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2011/06/15/a-tale-of-two-fathers/ To quote: "At the same time, however, nearly…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:38 AM
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How did that work out? When you were being recruited. I was already married to my ex when we found out he had an unknown child. It was amazing how much I was pressured to help him take a father role for the child - in other words, start being a mother. It would have meant giving up my future. I said hell no.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 12:20 AM
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This, exaclty
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:28 PM
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Women are not a monolith. "Then Feminism came along with a narrative that painted women as prisoners and slaves of men." Not slaves, but not first class citizens either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:26 PM
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Seriously. It is such a common play. Men often use custody as a method for controlling the ex wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:23 PM
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I really appreciate you bring up some of these stats. It is so tiresome to see men here claim that women are such inferior parents while men are superior based on the stat that single fathers do better than single mothers. Why? Well for the reasons you state: Single fathers are rarely actually single fathers. Instead, they get a woman into the house to help out. They aren't doing it on their own, like single mothers are. But then they want to brag how amazing they are. Of course, the lousy fathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 11:21 PM
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So you aren't a true man? INteresting
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:41 AM
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Right? A short guy hit on me and I said, "what, you thnk I think I want someone defective? I d't want to cross that my five foot genes."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:40 AM
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My friend asked me why you haven't shat right for a week, I said you'd just spent a week in prison. Wait why aren't you laughing?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:39 AM
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What if I say that shortmen have raging insecurity and napoleon complexes so aren't worth the time? Come on! Napoleon complex! He wasn't even short. Why aren't you laughing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:38 AM
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God damned.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:37 AM
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Why can't you take a joke, shorty? We don't hate you because you are subpar for breeding purposes? Why aren't you laughing - five foot woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:36 AM
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Why are men so stupid and juvenile?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:35 AM
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Women aren't hive minds. Stop pretending we are. You sound like a common man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:34 AM
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You dont know everything about motherhood - fucking GOOGLE the term "touched out" so you stop spouting ignorance on the internet and stop shaming other women. My toddler hung on me because she was a normal toddler. Here, I'll make it easy. Read and then fucking apologize. You have no fucking idea how hard it was for me back then. My husband would touch me and my skin would fucking CRAWL because I had from the time I was young significant sensory sensitivity. https://joinphoenixhealth.com/resourc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:25 AM
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I feel bad for your partner. Imagine fucking someone laying there like a starfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:13 AM
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I think this brings me back to my first point where I do absolutely agree with you: people need to understand themselves well enough to know what is a deal breaker and what is not. And if it is or if compromise is going to lead to resentment, it's not a match. I'd never have married into a dead bedroom myself. Sex was really important.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:09 AM
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Some of us are more loyal than that. But if that's your view, I never want to hear one word over women being shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 05:06 AM
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Oh I posted it. I hate this guilt tripping stuff. If you loved him you'ddddd doooo ittt. Well, if he loved me he wouldn't expect it unless I was receptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:59 AM
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i already answered above but I am putting it here for others: To quote, "[b[eing touched out is a state of sensory overload specifically related to physical contact. It's the experience of having your capacity for touch completely depleted, and then being asked for more." https://www.bloompsychologynorthaustin.com/blog/touched-out-mom-sensory-overload https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/lying-on-the-philosophers-couch/202505/feeling-touched-out https://slate.com/human-interest/2022/07/touche…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:58 AM
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I'm trying to not get mad right now. Please understand that your personal point of view is not everyone's. First, introduce yourself to the concept of "touched out." It is well documented with mothers and is also common with those with sensory processing issues. The only people who can touch me without explicit permission are my husband and kids. YOU may be fine. But you aren't every woman or every human being. https://slate.com/human-interest/2022/07/touched-out-science-psychology-moms.html "Fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:55 AM
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We say the same with women. Either accept or stay alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:26 AM
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Nope, it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:00 AM
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I don't get vulnerable with any men but my brother and my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:00 AM
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Sure, and men who are shitty in bed just need to accept she needs to be fucked by that stallion. After all, if you can't hit the spot, you've lost the privilege. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:58 AM
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Yes because the only way to show love is how it is convenient for the man /s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:55 AM
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So the answer is no marriage at all I guess? If you cannot fathom that men are unable to control their sexuality without seething resentment, then that's the answer. They ought to pair up with other men. My husband has a more compulsive libido than I do. I am reactive. Somehow, we've managed to make it work without "barely concealed resentment." If men cannot (1) acknowledge that women are different and (2) cannot control their own fucking sexuality, then they deserve to be treated as nothing mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:42 AM
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I think you should stop assuming your personal experience is the same for everyone. Women aren't hive minds, remember that? Edit. Downvote me all you want. But just remember you are sowing division in marriages by claiming women "just don't enjoy sex with their husbands." Glad my husband didn't get but hurt I wasn't fucking him like an animal when dealing with a colicky baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:33 AM
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Do you have children? Because bull fucking shit. I had a colicky baby that hung off my boob and toddler than hung off of me all the time. I was touched out. Google that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:32 AM
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I've got news for you, men have never "accommodated" my time of the month.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:31 AM
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Not if I'm not feeling it right then. He's free to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:30 AM
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man yes touched out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:27 AM
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Men won't fuck fat old women. They are the real eugencists. Go out there sport.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:25 AM
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"ou characterize my critique of this dynamic as a caricature, yet you cannot explain why the only men who are held to this standard of safety and behavior are the ones who lack status.If it is all about risk assessment and safety, why does the unselected man, who possesses no power to force his will upon anyone, receive the same scrutiny as the man with the resources to destroy lives?" I guarantee you've received far less scrutiny than Musk and Trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:23 AM
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We're done here because you know the answer: incels have absolutely gone and killed women. Women have not done the same. Run away, we all know you've lost the debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:22 AM
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Do you have any stats? No?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:18 AM
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"Why is it that the only men you feel a need to correct are the ones who are already struggling?" Because that isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:18 AM
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No one thinks all single men are incels. Confirmed bachelors have been a thing forever. I just hung out with my friend R today. He's a confirmed bachelor. No one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:17 AM
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How does any of these have to do with unselected men like in my posts. You are the one whining that women juuusttt woonn'tttt standddd upppp to all the elite meanies of the world. So I just identified the MANY women who absolutely did. You also assume i said they never get caught or something, most of them dont, so your couple of links means...nothing in the meaning of this debate means nothing. Ah yes, convenient. Complain that women won't stand up to the elites, and when they do, it doesnt cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:15 AM
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See even when a woman is nice, you still attack her. Look in the mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:07 AM
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No, I didn't misunderstand anything. The dynamic you described is exactly as I stated. All these snarling misogynistic men are too slavish and cowardly to confront Epstein and higher status men because they wish they could be one. But in the old days, they used to go home and beat their wives and kids. Now they can't, so the scream impotently at women and whine that those women won't punish the Epsteins of the world that they themselves are too cowardly to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:07 AM
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I love that you had to pull two posts from over a year ago with 21 and 11 replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:03 AM
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Yes, it is inconvient and annoying to be hit on. Stop it if a woman isn't interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 02:01 AM
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And yet these men still slay. They still have women flocking to them constantly so much so that they'd literally drown in pussy given the choice. Because women are people. You've got that right? PEOPLE. And that means some are shallow P.O.S., like Melania. And will trade their bodies and attention for money and status. Musk has been shot down, boyo. So has Trump. https://www.seattletimes.com/business/elon-musk-accused-of-sexual-harassment-reportedly-paid-250000-hush-money/ https://people.com/pol…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:59 AM
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"They need to say all the women they had were just forced and coerced." Point out one Purple pilled woman who said that, or admit that you lied. One
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:59 AM
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I've never called a man to kill a spider. And any man whose helped me move furniture I've paid back to help him packing or whatever. I'm friends with plenty of guys I'll never fuck. Because FRIENDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:49 AM
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When women are included in the hierarchy of decision making, they reduce sexual abuse and assault. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/corg.12496 have you thanked women for joining the boy scouts to save it from bankruptcy and oblivion after men covered up sexual assault for decades? https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy-amid-sex-abuse-scandal Have you thanked Julie Brown for courageously reporting on Epstein and blowing the lid open? https://www.pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:45 AM
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You call it hostility to point out that women treat men as a monolith when they label entire groups as dangerous to justify their own exclusionary behavior. Women aren't justifying anything - they are just telling you the truth: they don't like or want ugly angry men. And men don't want ugly angry women. If a man or woman is good looking enough, someone might over look it. You claim women are not a hive mind yet you immediately pivot to the exact same tired trope of painting unselected men as vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:35 AM
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"Yet, when elite men exert actual control over women's lives, bodies, and global circumstances, that same energy is never directed at them." Oh yes it is. Do you see how much Musk gets mocked and villified. Do you see how much women (and men too) mock Trump? Right now, the PM of Italy, Giorgia Meloni, has been so much more vicious (and go girl) attacking Trump than any of the other male world leaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:20 AM
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Are you mean to them or did men pick on you. My husband was an airforce brat and a bit short (5/7). Every time he went to a new school he had to punch a few guys to assert that he wouldn't be targeted by bullying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:18 AM
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No, I get it, and you are right - Epstein and Maxwell were absolutely targetting poor high school girls. This is the same modus that happens with sex work in, unfortunately, the US, Europe, and elsewhere: poor girls are lured away with the promise of jobs and then their passports are taken and they are cut away from others.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:15 AM
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Ah yes, but now the wife can do something about it, and man does that piss those men off. They no longer can take out their rage by lording it over some woman kept legally in second class citizenship to them. Women can leave. And they do. And now those low status men have no one left to pretend they are superior to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:13 AM
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Men absolutely mock other men over sexual proweness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:11 AM
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It's extraordinary to watch as well. ONe periodic poster said that women's thought process was delusional while men were all logical. And he used two men as his example of feminine thought. But he still insisted he was entirely unbiased. To be very clear, women also do stuff like that too. Neither sex is unbiased. Both sexes reason based on emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:09 AM
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Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:07 AM
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If this isn't an example of observational bias.... Men post angry comment that women can't love men, women are shallow, women are whores for Chad and only want to fuck criminals. Men agree mostly. Women push back. Women post angry comment that men just want sex and are shallow whores for Stacy. Women mostly agree. Men push back. It's the same behavior - human behavior. Woman posts shitty comment, men influencers amplify to garner clicks, engagement, and money. Man posts shitty comment, women inf…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 01:05 AM
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false, not 20% more, and it is highly variable by individual. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39804347/ Of course, in professional settings, men run their mouth like no one's business: https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/12/19/study-finds-men-speak-twice-often-do-women-colloquiums https://time.com/4837536/do-women-really-talk-more/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:52 AM
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Not the religious stuff, the antisemitism and mysogeny. Ain't just me calling it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:42 AM
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this
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:39 AM
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Women have agency of course. And, as I said, where I agree is that no woman should marry if they are just fucking to secure the man while they know they don't like it. That's deceptive. But there is way too much societal wise of blaming women when sex goes to hell after marriage. It took way way way the hell too long before marital rape was outlawed. Men are seen as the default human, including their sexuality. And you see it slip into comments all the time - that women should just start approac…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:16 AM
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"roast beef"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:57 PM
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Holy cow, Natalism has gone off the rails these past couple of weeks. I know a few people who post here and post there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:56 PM
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thank the victorians.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:32 PM
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Then I guess he should choose better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:30 PM
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This is a great point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:30 PM
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While I usually agree with your takes, I'm going to push back on this one with some nuance. First, where I agree: it is important that both parties are honest. If a woman is gritting her way through sex until the ring is on, well aware that as soon as it is sealed, she's going to stop, yah, that's bullshit. Similarly, if a man isn't getting regular sex and its a deal breaker, he needs to also admit it. Second, where I disagree: marriage is a marathon. I am and have always been pretty randy, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:29 PM
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I don't think child-free make up only 1 % of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:21 PM
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" men do not need to be forced," Au contraire. The only way you could believe this is if you are being willfully obtuse. Otherwise, the waiting to wed sub wouldn't exist. First, society used the deliberate throttling of sex to force men into marriage. Society - mostly men back then - deliberately outlawed sex work to prevent men from buying sex. Before that point, they also legally cut out the inheritance of bastards. Therefore, men were forced into marriage for a chance of sex and/or legimate c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:20 PM
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No, the problem is that women are shamed for not being married and having kids. So they push back on it. Men were allowed to be independent and single and live on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 08:02 PM
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True, all men are simply Epsteins.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:38 PM
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No, they are told they are delusional when they want a virgin when they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:38 PM
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People, my dear, PEOPLE will act as shitty as you permit them. It's amazing - despite being older, not a virgin, having a divorce under my belt, being one of those damnable career women - I was treated 1000% better on the market at 28 than I was at 22. It takes a person of deep morals and discipline to avoid walking on someone who lays themselves out like a doormat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:33 PM
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"…roughly 4 men will die in the act of using their bodies to produce sustenance and shelter for their children" Sure, buddy. Because all those men are married with kids
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:59 AM
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So no doubt you will edit this and apologize as many women have expressed pleasure having kids and no one has shit on them or called lazy, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:56 AM
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Let people make the choice that works for their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:52 AM
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THIS. I've been telling my teens recently, "I am a human being with my own interests, feelings, and desires. None of them are cleaning up after you."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:51 AM
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Uh huh, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:50 AM
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God damned.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:48 AM
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I had two kids. Both times I developed major health issues, the second time I ended up on three months bed rest. For the second, I had to go to two separate doctors. I wanted to be a mother and I do not regret. I adore my kids. But society treats it as a thankless job, no matter how much lipservice it is given. We show what we value by money. You have to have money to take care of them and yourself. You have to have money to give birth or for medical care. So as much as I wanted kids, I knew I'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:44 AM
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Gay men also have more open marriages. That'll work great in heterosexual marriages. They should definitely let their wives fuck around. It'll keep them married.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:31 AM
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I'm sorry your reading comprehension is so poor, but helpfully another poster said it to you: "Im saying who initiates the divorce isnt necessarily the person who ended the relationship." So STOP using "wahhh she filed for divorce" as a way to blame women for ending marriages as if we are less loyal or less devoted than men. "Honestly the only way you get anywhere gender-exclusive with the odd institution of marriage and gender is look at homosexual couples." Ah, you think so? More same sex male…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:30 AM
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The retracted study was done in 2009. This is it - > https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19645027/ The first study I cited was done in 2015 and still found a statistically significant difference. They do not appear to use the same data. the second one, the risk is only higher for women age 50-64, 65+ there was no difference, also the risk of divorce was higher when the man had depression in the 50-64 group(the the risk for divorce and depression was higher for women age 65+) So, in other words the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:25 AM
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LOL. You crack me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:10 AM
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The point just flies over your head doesn't it? If women don't want to cede control over their own lives, that means that women aren't naturally submissive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:08 AM
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No one is talking about bedroom games. If you want to talk about who generally runs the roost, I have quite a good idea. Most of my female friends are the ones handling the accounting, the scheduling, the general running of the household. I am different in that I let my husand handle all the finances. He's better at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:07 AM
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Stupidity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:03 AM
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Humans have, for as long as we have recorded history, enjoyed removing hair. Consider the egyptian priests. Romans had a kink for it. So did the Ottoman turks. That said, it is very socially dictated - consider hairy armpits as acceptable in europe
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:02 AM
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You might be interested lazy user theory. And I do find competence sexy, no question. I am also very competent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:58 AM
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Isn't it extraordinary how much his disrepresent of women just oozes through?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:56 AM
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Honestly, this is a beautiful example of how the patriarchy trap men into miserable narrow behaviors. You immediately code and shame your "friend" - that you only keep to use - as "feminine" because he is more emotional. This reveals two things: first, you very much look down on attributes you associate with women. I have zero doubt that prejudice reflects on your relationships with women. Second, if you had the capabillity to look past your social conditioning, you would realize that your frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:53 AM
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Damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:36 AM
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Too bad it's been verified in other papers that have not been retracted. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4857885/ https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jomf.13077?af=R https://www.news.iastate.edu/news/marriage-more-likely-end-divorce-when-wives-get-sick-according-isu-study
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:33 AM
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So my friend initiated divorce when she found out her husband cheated on her with three separate women. Since she filed, it was clearly her fault the marriage was broken and didn't love him anymore because he outlived his usefulness? This has got to be rage bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:29 AM
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I didn't even recognize the name. I don't know nor care about reality tv or basketball. But I know a shit ton about Ed Zitron, Gary Marcus, Cory Doctorow, and the terrible internal finances of various AI companies. Oh you don't? Obviously you are disconnected from mainstream culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:27 AM
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My father cheated on my disabled mother with one of her friends. Shit, my siblings were friends in school with her kids. My dad divorced my mother to shack up with her. I guess that means men are unable to love women, merely use them until someone better looking or healthier comes along. Hell, I guess that means that men are unable to love their own children, after all my dad abandoned us too. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:23 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:06 PM
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Less than eight years, but she did. I agree Jenny did a shitty thing. Again, I'm merely correcting the record.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:05 PM
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"I dismissed it because it was made up. Women basing their view of men on a comedy show is mentally ill." No, you dismissed it because it's inconvenient to your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:02 PM
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Most people have someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:47 PM
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This is dead on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:30 AM
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Bullies are a lot more cautious about picking on someone their own size. A man who punches his gay partner may get his nose broken in response. I'm five feet tall. It was a lot easier for my six foot 2 ex to manhandle me than it was for him to face off my brother who met him eye to eye. If you look at it just a little bit closer, you'd see this. So of course a gay guy is going to be more careful about punching his partner who is likely close to his weight and in his weightclass. As for lesbian v…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:28 AM
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I love it when a man claims that poor little women just can't think for themselves... while women have been walking over them to go to college...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:14 AM
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Think you missed this part: "What's funny is that if you were paying attention back when that episode first came out the discussion around it started out as men saying, "Yes, please!!" I'd say the mental illness lies with men gleefully saying that they wanted what was supposed to be a punchline.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:13 AM
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Exactly. And I'd like to point out that I don't think this is great for the IT people either. We need people to learn how to code to become the experienced IT person. Have you heard Cory Doctorow's interview on the Atlantic on June 19? Really good measured evaluation of AI.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:09 AM
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Okay okay be like that. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:06 AM
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That's hard. People can and do change, but I think there are limits. I'm not very organized. I've improved with a lot of effort, but it'll never be natural to me. For you, just give it a lot of time. Pulling for you catlady.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:06 AM
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Don't worry, bud. I'm sure they won't yawn in front of you. Chin up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:03 AM
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Speaking out of your nether region based on nothing more than tiktok videos. Very male coded. Men too often mistake their opinion for objective fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:02 AM
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True enough
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:01 AM
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You are the one who said women need to "tame men." Look in the mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:00 AM
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Knock yourself out. If the only way you can get a woman to pay attention to you is using currency arbitrage to cosplay a rich man and super betabux, go to it, but those women have access to the internet as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:59 AM
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No but I always upvote archery.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:45 PM
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You are't the only one. I've said it too (and it's true, it's horrible). But he keeps insisting that every other woman has been mean about it. We haven't. Many have empathized with him and acknowledged it is wrong. Yet, he keeps insisting all these women are so cruel to him over it. Just keep that in mind with DOR.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:44 PM
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Nah, we went straight back and got busy. Nice memories.... lots of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:40 PM
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You don't know much about Mozart, do you? He loved scatalogical humor, like a 10 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:39 PM
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So men are beasts that will prey on others like a common dog unless a woman is there to control them? Thanks for proving my point: women are civilization, understand the importance of a law governed society, and can control their baser instincts. Men are beasts governed by their animalistic instincts - the exact opposite of logic, executive thought, and civilization. No one is more misandrist than a red pill man. Chef's kiss.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:37 PM
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Incorrect. Lesbians report 43.8% of domestic abuse total. 67.4% of those 43.8% is male abuse. That means 23% of the abuse reported by all lesbians (out of 43%) was perpetrated by men. So even though lesbians mostly date women, a full half or more of their reported abuse comes from the men, the minority they date. Seems pretty consistent with heterosexual women. As for male on male abuse, well it's a lot harder to knock around a guy who is equal to you in strength and weight. Bullies pick on weak…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:31 PM
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Yes, you should stop using your ideological lens to contort yourself into the stupidity that "no really, men never oppressed women" bull shit. READ the fucking article for once, rather than engage in a knee jerk ignorant "nah ah! men were soooo oppressed tooooo!" Husbands had full legal authority to commit their wives to insane asylums and did, just on their husband's say so. And if they did, wives had no legal recourse to contest her husband's decision. And husbands did it. WIVES did not have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:21 PM
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Uh, dude, I have a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:11 PM
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Widows of rich men were considered the winners and simply didn't remarry.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:07 PM
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What meme? I don't live my life online and don't have tiktok or whatever else social media exists. I've been married 19 years and have two kids. I started moving left during the Obama administration. It's called incorporating new data into my world view and adjusting accordingly. You should try it. It's how scientists function.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:02 PM
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No fault divorce does not mean that there wasn't adultury or abuse in the background - people use it to avoid a public fight and the difficulties of proof. But I look forward to your study or evidence that women are divorcing due to unfettered hypergamy. I've never seen it. And I've never seen a divorce over frivolous reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:59 PM
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It's convenient (and nonfalsifiable) to claim everyone who disagrees is lying. It's almost like you you have made up your mind and are searching for evidence to support it. Of all the people I know who divorced, I know of one woman who said she regretted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:57 PM
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I work in the insurance industry; I know exactly how it works. Men still are higher insurance risks due to impulsive decision making.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:56 PM
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So, that study actually supported my position. Did you even read it? It focused on predominately the negative economic impact of divorce. Literally, my point. So thanks! You know what is missing in that study? Comparing the outcome of divorced kids to kids in high conflict marriages without divorce. Because the question is not "happy marriage" versus divorce, but miserable marriage versus divorce. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/divorce-not-always-bad-kids-flna1c9457667 (bit old) Even…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:54 PM
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Bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:39 PM
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Is this a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:38 PM
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Husbands would legally commit their wives to insane asylums here in the US for being too uppity and difficult. The women had no legal recourse. Maybe YOU should pick up a book instead of criticizing others. https://time.com/6074783/psychiatry-history-women-mental-health/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:38 PM
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Nah, I won't be dropping my standards. Why would I? It's about what's best for me personally. If a man doesn't make my life better, why should I marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:36 PM
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If men were more logical in their decision making, there would be no need to "tame" them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:35 PM
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I think the data is far too cofounding. It has only been the last decade that women and men's political views significantly split and also that young women started leaving religion in droves. Most women married once upon a time, were more religious, and became more conservative as they aged (like men in that respect). So was it marriage or just the impact of aging? I know I've only moved left since being married. I was a libertarian in my twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:34 PM
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Hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:30 PM
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Financially. Not everything is money, dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:29 PM
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Imagine saying this considering how much risk men, particularly young men, represent. Insurance actuary tables don't lie - men are far more impulsive especially when young. Women rarely regret divorce and are less likely to remarry after one than divorced men. Sounds like they know what they are about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:29 PM
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Ah yes, only women are influenced by culture, never men. And since being married, I've only moved left.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:26 PM
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The lack of self awareness is the man who rails impotently that he'll replace women with sexbots and artificial wombs at any point in the foreseeable future. Only a man would be ignorant enough to think he can replace the complexities of the womb with computers. And if we get to that point, boyo, men are just as replaceable if not more so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:25 PM
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"You dont get to nuke everything and wipe out the accomplishments of countless men infinitely better than you." I guess their accomplishments are shit if those accomplishments won't survive without women. What I truly love is that I know you are one of those AI types who gleefully think AI will wipe out all the useless "female" email jobs, meanwhile, its primarily male junior coders who are getting it right in the ass. Those healthcare jobs? Those carework jobs? Predominately female coded? Can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:19 PM
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Why is this dude on here spewing garbage while I get in trouble for calling someone ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:15 PM
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That's funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:15 PM
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Mozart's sister, Nannerl, was incredibly talented. I don't know that she was more talented than Mozart. But she did have to give up her career once married. Mozart said she was amazing and I believe him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:14 PM
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This of course is a lie, but if women are so unimportant go on without us, live in your male only society. I've bested most men in college, in law school, and now in my career. GFY.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:12 PM
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But the kid is Forrest's son, you realize that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:16 AM
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I don't get this, she didn't hang around Forrest her whole life. To the contrary, she took off, made it clear she wasn't interested, told him to leave her alone. They were buddies in school. Once out of school, they went their seaprate ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:16 AM
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The child is Forrest's son, you all realize that, right? That is Forrest's own flesh and blood that Jenny wants him to take care of?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:14 AM
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they didn't really fully understand AIDs in the early 80s, muchacho. Not how it transmitted. And keep in mind, in your situation, the man would have kept the son and raised him, only bringing the son to his mother when he was dying. Also keep in mind that the man would have told the female forrest no a zillion times.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:12 AM
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You realize that the kid is Forrest's right? It's his son.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:09 AM
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This is a really savvy point, one I hadn't considered. Jenny was so fucking sad. She was smart, kind, talented, and beautiful. And because she was sexually abused as a child, she was deeply broken. She sat there singing "the answer is blowing in the wind" so beautifully but all the men wanted was for her to take the guitar off and strip. I felt bad for her. And I felt bad for Forrest, but look how well he was allowed to succeed, starting with his MOTHER whoring herself out to get Forrest into pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:06 AM
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All the upvotes for that first sentence. God am I sick of all those people broadcasting stuff publicly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:58 AM
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No. Doormats are not attractive. And I don't think most well adjusted women would like that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:53 AM
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Normally, I disagee with you, but these all are very solid ideas for men to take agency in their own lives to improve their chances of meeting a high quality girl (except so much the foodie calls, but I was always willing to go dutch to start). I have always thought men should be more selective about choosing for values as much as looks. Way too many men here seem to not care if they are with a good person. This stuff of course is a bit crazy. "You starve women of their dopamine loops and their …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:47 AM
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Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:43 AM
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Pretty funny and true enought.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:41 AM
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Upvotes for the laugh. Such a man thing 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:41 AM
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LMAO, no, swingers are all drama
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:36 AM
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Sounds right. Smart to get out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:36 AM
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That's a you problem. It seems like your brain has been changed by all the social media you gobble up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:35 AM
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I have no idea what he did in his earlier days, but he settled on his wife after lawschool. She's good looking, sweet, and college educated with her own career. She's around his age. And he would tell you that he was smart to lock her down. He's a wife guy. But that mere fact will make all the guys here call him less successful than a drug dealer who knocked up a couple of crack whores shows real toxicity in their view. To them women are interchangeable holes to be fucked and disgarded. I marrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:34 AM
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But so many guys here snarl that women are terrible because they would rather date a serial killer than bob from accounting. They don't care that the type of women who do want to date a serial killer are fucked in the head. They don't care that jack the drug dealer is fucking toothless herione junkies and occasional prostitutes. He's still more successfu than Bob because Bob got himself a nice wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:26 AM
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My boss is NOTHING like the drug dealer dude. He's a genuine good dude. I was joking with him recently that he's the total wife-guy. And we laughed. He adores his wife. And I hope he'd have better sense than to fuck some heroine chick. So for a guy to be a Chad, he must meet all this physical and job criteria AND also be a player that wants to fuck all the women. Being loyal to his wife and settling down with her in his late 20s is somehow still not a Chad. That says something about you all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:23 AM
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But those guys will say that my husband also is not a real Chad even though he has all his hair, is a research scientist at a flag ship university, all because he's 5/7. And that he is less successful than a drug dealer and his three heroine baby mommas. It doesn't matter than I am far better looking than the heroine junkies, never traded sex for drugs, have all my teeth, am with him due to pure desire, and was very discriminating in my selection. Somehow my husband is "less successful" because …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:19 AM
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I like men. And they do work really well and efficiently in a hierarchy more so than women (on average). I don't think we'd be better off without men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:10 AM
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Not for long. Change is real but they have to want it for themselves, not to please someone. I don't care how hot he is or how great his penis, at a certain point, she isn't going to feel the love enough to hold the pretense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:03 AM
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Some magic switch to MAKE her change.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:01 AM
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He's not. But for him, he allegedly becomes suicidal without having a woman in his house. He is not ... well, not someone who's advice or view points would apply to the vast majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:59 AM
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The only path is to find a person who is compatible. The only other option in your control is to change yourself. So change yourself to match her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:58 AM
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C'est la vie. You know, you proposed that she might change out of love of you. Why don't you change for her? Really, you'll just have to decide whether it really is a dealbreaker or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:57 AM
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It's not silly. It's the only option. Either accept her as she is, or move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:56 AM
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"I think a big thing to consider is behavior and traits are honestly somewhat negotiable. Depends on how she feels about you. Sometimes women will be sweet for you and a demon to everyone else....." Ah yes, the magical vagina fallacy. Or, I guess for you, the magical dick fallacy. You can "save" her or turn her into your ideal woman, a tale as old as pygmalion. Good luck with that.... Let me tell you what happens when a woman tries to turn a bad man into one with a heart of gold - eventually he …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:54 AM
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I must have confused him with Bundy. Honestly, Dahmer is a lesson in how much the police ignore the poor and outcast. For fuck sake they gave him back one of his victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:46 AM
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This this this. And I wish people would acknowledge that they themselves and others make irrational decisions. We are not logic machines.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:43 AM
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Yup. Guys like this are constantly trying to cheap out. If it isn't so good, then just, live your life. And that is what women are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:40 AM
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When men made it clear that they'd fuck women they hate, they'd never marry, they'd never date, or never be seen with. Stop using women and women are less likely to demand a concrete example of investment in them as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:36 AM
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She's right, though. If women and a relationship with a woman isn't valuable, don't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:34 AM
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Sure. It's still not okay. But hey, as long as you don't mind being stood up, go on with your bad self.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:29 AM
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Doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:25 AM
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By men no less
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:21 AM
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God yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:21 AM
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Seriously. We had that earlier post bitching that women won't overlook politics or are too picky. It's like damned if you do and damned if you don't
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:19 AM
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Your comments here are dumb, so again, that claimed brilliance is not in evidence. You know why? Because you continue to treat women as if there is but one woman. Some fucking woman once said that she could always tell if men are abusive, and now you are going to disenginuously claim that all women everywhere all claim to have a fucking personality detector that is infallible and seek out the perfect. In fact you are trying to claim that some mutherfukking MEME I've never heard of proves it. "Po…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:15 AM
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And I bet you'd take Scarlett Johanson over Kathy Bates too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:56 AM
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Women are individuals. Some are smart and some are not. Some have heard their bitter divorced dad bitch and see you coming a mile away. Do you understand that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:51 AM
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"OK, so you see posting on Reddit as analogous to holding a knife covered in blood." No need to be so transparent in your bad faith arguments. I give you an F in debate. Now go back, look up the word metaphor in the dictionary, and come back with a GOOD faith argument that actually ADDRESSES my point: Some men open their mouth and vomit red flags (you) and other men know how to hide them. .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:50 AM
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I give you an upvote for. your kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:46 AM
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Not with that attitude. Damn
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:45 AM
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"I am so fucking sorry that you see "Abusive men are bad" as evidence of malice toward women." Is that evidence of your brilliance? Because your argument is actually: "why are women such stupid and shallow bitches that they ignore me and keep dating abusive men just because they are hot! They over look abusiveness in hot men; it's so unfair they won't overlook my seething bitterness at women to date me!"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:45 AM
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Raises hand. Sapiosexual! One of the useful terms I learned here. I remember in highschool talking to friends of mine about this or that boy being cute. And I remember thinking "oh my god, what if he's stupider than I am? I can't do that!"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:42 AM
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No, I should have had a /s behind my comment. He's not stupid. He was abused and trapped in the broken-winged bird cycle where he kept trying to save her. It's not a shock, looking at our parents. I helped him on call after call for over a year. "What would you call this if a woman friend came to you bro?"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:39 AM
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Sorry, b - , can't play those stupid word games with me. I am a lawyer in real life. Your question is a false premise. Women don't constantly claim that they can tell toxic men from non-toxic men upon meeting them. I certainly never have. I've never heard a woman say it. I've never heard a woman here state it. Only men engaged in disenginuous bad faith that want to pretend that all women are the same so the stupidity of one can be magically attributed to all. That's you by the way acting in bad …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:37 AM
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I'm sorry, I will speak slowly for you since you are clearly in your feelings. There is a difference between women saying - as I am - that your fucking bitterness is screaming off the page and if so, it's probably really fucking obvious to the women in your life Versus saying that all women are perfect at detecting toxicity in all men. Metaphorically speaking, you are standing in front of us with a fucking knife covered in blood and a dead body behind you. Of course it's fucking obvious you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:31 AM
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This is really very true. No one likes it, but both genders have pretty privilege. It isn't fair, but that's life. This comment about Robert Redford really hits it: Nichols: "Okay, have you ever struck out with a girl?" Redford: "What do you mean?" Nichols: "Have you ever had difficulty seducing a woman?" Redford genuinely didn't understand the question, reportedly comparing it to asking someone how it felt to eat at a restaurant and not be served a meal. Because Redford's iconic looks and inher…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:24 AM
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Yes it is. Healthy women avoid abusers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:13 AM
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Because all we see here is bitterness dripping through every word you write.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:13 AM
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So far, that brilliance and humor are not in evidence, just a shit ton of bitterness and malice toward women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:11 AM
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I have a very good answer: you are creating a straw man and lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:11 AM
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My brother was an abused spouse. I helped him get out. I guess that means all men are too stupid to tell the difference between abusive and nonabusive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:10 AM
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"ut even if I did, i don't claim that I can impeccably discern someone's toxicity, as women frequently do." Women do not. The only ones who say that are men. They do it so they can do what they always love to do - as you appear to do - to punish and blame women for not picking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:09 AM
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"OK, so you concede that women have no ability to determine which men will or will not be abusive?" Some do; some don't. Maybe if you start to recognize that women are individuals and vary just like men, you'd stop making such inane comments. Some women are smart; some are stupid. Some women are desperate; some are not. Some women are abused by their parents and that leads them to make the same poor relationship decisions as adults. My aunt has never been abused. My mom was by my dad. My sister …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:08 AM
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Yah, can't have women learn from their mistakes can we?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:01 AM
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I have one comment to you: "diamond hands." How many mutherfukker ape sniffers were out there pressuring each other to buy into those POS NTFs as they crashed? And you think companies and bad actors weren't unleashing torrents of bot armies to parrot shit while pretending to be real. You have no idea if I am a woman. Or even in the US. I could be a 17 year old Irishman for all you care.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 02:00 AM
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I've never heard of DSA. Makes me wonder
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:58 AM
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I'm married. I'm not coping over not finding a man who is LGBTQ friendly. However, my sister is unmarried and has been and is fine, leads a full life, and is not simmering in the misery and bitterness that so many men here seem to be. She travels with her friends (just came back from Mexico), acts in local theater, and has a rewarding career in data storage and analytics. Hell, her job sent her to New Zealand. Does she wish she'd found someone? Yes. We've talked about it. But she isn't this seet…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:33 AM
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It is a logic error. It's like me telling you that you need to stop bitching that you have no options because you could be a billionaire in the future and be covered in women. I could easily say that you will be desirable for far longer and will have many opportunities therefore you cannot complain. What matters is when the person is looking for And being desirable is a huge advantage when you want to start dating someone. No, because fucking isn't dating. A large part of those men who want to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:28 AM
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I had an abortion while married to my now husband because I had an incomplete miscarriage. It was to prevent me developing sepsis. Go on, tell me that you think that means I'm a whore. And I guess my husband is a loser. But then, this is why prochoice was mandatory for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:24 AM
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So, not all women are the same. With that caveat, A woman who is really hit in the clit over an attractive man (that's happened once or twice in my life) may go quite and shy and bashful. USUALLY, you see this with really young women, like teens or twenties. Fuck, i recall acting like that a time or two. She may absolutely avoid him for fear of making a fool of herself. Women have their own version of PUA - the Rules is hte most well known. Women are often told to be distant and cool and busy fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:18 AM
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Seriously. They all are
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:12 AM
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Then tell men that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:11 AM
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This exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:10 AM
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No one gives a shit if you don't date fat girls. Don't. Just swipe left. We say that all the time. Just don't bitch nonstop about how disgusting they are. I'd say the same if a woman was calling men trash if they don't pay for the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:10 AM
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See, and I LOVED coffee dates and/or let's have a drink at a bar Low stakes, just to suss each other out, and public. I'm 5 feet tall. Back then, I weighted like 115. Men were way taller than me and often outweighed me by 100 lbs if not more. I've been manhandled before. There is a reason why my krav maga teacher insisted that the FIRST choice was always to run away.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:08 AM
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too many men here pretend that they have no agency; that way, they can be a victim and never have to take responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:05 AM
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Yes. This guy is like, "wahhh I spent three hours on a wasted dinner!" Well, so did the woman? Do you think her time doens't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:34 AM
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Like most of my first dates were very low stakes - let's meet and have coffee or a drink. I'd offer to go dutch. I much prefer it that way. I think these guys are trying to date potential trophy-wife type women. In europe, most couples go dutch. I don't see why that can't happen here
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:30 AM
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Right? I invest a lot into my friendships also
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:24 AM
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Maybe, but god I feel like the guys I knew in highschool and college were so much less desperate and far more discerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:24 AM
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Maybe you need to like the woman you are asking out - as a person, not just "I'll do her." And then it won't feel like a performance but spending time someone you like
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:23 AM
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These guys have spreadsheets for hearts and cannot understand the difference between transaction and reciprocation. The entire concept of nonverbal communication also apparently defeats them. Talk is cheap. Guys will promise the moon for a chance to fuck someone and walk away. It's actions that matter. There are MANY ways to signal that his intentions are more than just a quick fuck and beyond. And he needs to look for signals back. This is reciprocation. Don't waste time with a woman that doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:22 AM
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You're problem is that you are so desperate for pussy you have given up your agency and your power. It's pretty sad. You think you can't say no. If the date goes badly and she's boring and uninterested, DON'T ask for a second one. It's pretty sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:17 AM
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You are describing a system where the man provides the capital (the date, the planning, the paying) to purchase the opportunity to perform. Every first date I went on involved my input. We discussed ideas, so this cryng over planning is pathetic. Oooooo, I met one guy at his friend's bar - man he must have really struggled at that one. I met my husband at a little pool bar near his work and my apartment. Our time investment WAS THE SAME. More for me because I had to get dolled up. And he spent s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 12:12 AM
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"t's a tool to ensure the man keeps paying for the audition without ever being allowed to discuss the cost." He is free at any time to not pay the cost. He says, "hey dutch" and she can say, "sure" or "no". He asks for a date and decides to pay, that is what he gets, a date. If the relationship isn't progressing and she doesn't seem interested in him remotely, just stop. If he wants more, then he needs to discuss what services he wants with the cost. But since most of us have jobs, there is like…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:34 PM
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No, it really isn't okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:28 PM
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You just are pissed you can't afford to buy what you want. It's really simple: you asked her on the date because you want to fuck her. Maybe you want more, but every woman everywhere knows you want to fuck her. So what? That's not special. Women know that men want to fuck the vast majority of women out there. We hear it day after day. MAYBE if men were a bit more discriminating in their sexual interest, it'd be different and we'd feel it a compliment. But I know that the guys who wanted to fuck …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:26 PM
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Start giving a shit about a woman's career then. I've never lied to get lunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:12 PM
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I preferred dutch and a very low pressure coffee date or drink at the bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:06 PM
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Because you are being transactional. No matter how you dance around it, you think she's required to give something back.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:04 PM
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When I was dating, I offered to go dutch. It reduces the pressure in my opinion. Every guy turned it down for the first date. I'm not sure what your deal is over intention? Every woman knows that if a guy takes her out, he's interested in sex and/or sex and romance. That is his intention. The woman has passed the initial bar for sex and so he wants the opportunity to scope her out for whether it's sex or maybe sex plus. And he's insured he's got her undivided attention, at least for that moment,…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:00 PM
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"The reason I don’t place much blame on men for hookup culture is simple: most men aren’t engaging in it." But the vast majority are trying to
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:18 PM
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This. And if he doesn't, he pays and if he doesn't, he goes to the work house. None of this dodging child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:15 PM
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"I’m sure plenty of men would handle pregnancy too if biology allowed it :)." Thanks for proving my point boyo. My husband is taller than me and is stronger than me. That means he often handles tasks that I don't have the strength for. That includes being able to stand off a hostile man more easily than I can. I've done the best I can, from learning krav maga to going into the kick boxing ring. But pound for pound, his punch will be stronger. I am tired of this crap from men. OOOh he does so muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:14 PM
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I've thought about making this a post, but it actually works perfectly here: So my boss is likely what guys here would call a Chad. He's over six feet and has all his hair. He was and remains athletic, military, and is a partner at a national firm. He is smart, funny, and sociable. He also has been married to his wife for almost twenty years. They have two kids. Guys here would say he is less successful and less of a Chad than some fifty year old drug dealer who is in and out of prison, sleeps r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 07:05 PM
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Bravo
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:52 PM
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First, I had zero options until about 19-20. Second, stop the logic error. We don't date in the past. We date now. Do you claim that Bezos was buried in pussy at 17 just because today he could be as one of the richest men in the world? Do you claim some homeless guy today has tons of options becuase he was the high school quarterback? Of course not. What matters is today. "You have more options at dating from 15-40 than most men in their entire lives." More options at SEX, not dating. Some guy t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:46 PM
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And if she can't, she stays alone. C'est la vie.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:35 PM
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She's not asking to date you dude. No one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:29 PM
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Would her husband carry the babies? No? I guess my husband is stuck with the biological reality that he's taller, stonger, and has a deeper voice so people are more likely to back away from me. He doesn't have to give birth either. I do btw deal with checking strange noises and i do very unpleasant tasks. Right now I have a break out on my wrists after spending five hours in 100% humidity in a tyvek suit in Georgia cleaning up 30 feet of f---king poisoned Ivy. Goddamed rubber gloves, mask and go…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:29 PM
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age is also immutable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:23 PM
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Yup. Women should dump men due to politics. It means they aren't compatible for an LTR or even a STR.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:22 PM
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Options for sex. Hell they could go behind the waffle house and blow Bob the Builder. Is that your idea of an option?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:21 PM
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feminism doesn't push for women to be twice as selective. Feminism theory doesn't talk about red flags. It's our mothers and grandmothers and friends who encourage us to watch out for red flags. It's called choosing better. Keep in mind, we have dozens of other posts castigating women over not choosing men with morals. And yet now we have men complaining that women use politics - which is a huge indication of values and (lesser) morals - to screen men out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:18 PM
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So morals and values on't matter, eh? Good. We won't hear any more complaints from you that women should reward sex to "good men, right?" Good men aren't bigots toward gay people. Funny how even a sociopath (you claim) has no trouble holding completely inconsistent positions based on what benefits your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:15 PM
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"That would mean picking between husband and gay best friend. Pick the one that is more important." Logic error based on a false premise. Women are choosing between a guy she's gone on a few dates with and a gay best friend. I know you want to be dramatic and claim that women are choosing friends over their husbands (clutch pearls), but instead the question is whether to go on date four with a guy she's just met and does not love and has no history with over her long and loyal friend. The friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:12 PM
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"the problem is that they have made their standards so much as a dealbreaker than the circle of "viable" men has basically shrunk too small, so almost no one is." Says who? I live in a college town. I see plenty of college kids dating. And, no, the men aren't all six foot tall chads. I've been tempted a few ties to snap pics, blot out names, and post them here. I go through various subs here on reddit - granted, we need to take the posts with a pinch of salt - but plenty of women discuss their b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:05 PM
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So your gfs are not monogamous? Or they want riches and fame? Wow, you have terrible taste in women. The data, such as it exists, shows that women are far more monogamous and less likely to cheat than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:17 PM
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Then your values don't align. Look for someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:14 PM
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Because you waste your time on social media rather than being around normal people. I look fondly back to sex with my husband on a small boat out in the middle of Lake Tahoe in broad daylight. I remember fondly when he first called me sweetheart.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:13 PM
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sex is dopamine giving, so you'll be fine giving that up with your wife, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:11 PM
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None of this reflects well on the man. "Individual women are irrelevant and exchangable"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:09 PM
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And a man doens't love a woman for who she is, only for the sex, housework, and companionship she can provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:08 PM
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"I agree that it's wrong to shut women out of the military. I believe in equality." Then take that up with conservatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:05 PM
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"but even so, women in the US still have far better reproductive and parental choice rights than men do." FALSE
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:04 PM
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Please identify what legal rights we have but men do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 08:04 PM
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And by yelling "apex fallacy" you dismantle your own argument. If my mother and father - as the children of highly educated white collar parents - were equal: they both were at the apex. But despite being a better student and at the apex, my mother was denied the right to pursue medicine or enter UVA, but my dad was. Same for RBG and whoever graduated 1 at Columbia. Despite being at the Apex intellectually, she was denied the same opportunites her other classmates received as a matter of course.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:56 PM
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"but it was no different for men" Except it wasn't . Men didnt lose their jobs because they became pregnant. Men had access to better jobs. Men had access to bank accounts, credit cards, and insurance in their own names. Men could accumulate wealth. So it was very very different than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:45 PM
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No they did not. This is pure disenginuousness. A poor country boy could get into the army, do well, take advantage of the GI bill, and climb the ladder, come out with a degree. A poor country girl, no matter how smart or athletic, could not. That route was closed. The daughter of a decent banker could not go to UVA or get access to their med school, even if she had a perfect 4.0. Her brother could with far shittier grades. She's not able to have that job or make that money. You'll call it apex …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:44 PM
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And they didn't have the same financial opportunities as gay men had who didn't marry. Are you being obtuse on purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:34 PM
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I am talking about marriages where women were abused and could not excape because they had no money.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:33 PM
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My mother was not allowed to attend the University of Virginia as a first year; my dad was, even though his grades were far worse than my mom. My mom, when she was allowed in for her masters, sailed through with a 4.0. My dad barely made it. The difference? He had a penis and she didn't. That isn't equality of opportunity. She should have been accepted and would have made the University's metrics look better. When Ruth Bater Ginsberg graduated No. 1 from Columbia law, no one hired her. The man w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:33 PM
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And your point is that she should injure herself instead. Neutral is better than negative. Sounds like you cannot remotely understand the female position.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:28 PM
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"So what? Why do you care?" Because if average men hold that view, including the guy she fucks in an effort to get him interested, every time she does it, she reduces her chances, not only with the ONS but with all other guys. Every action she takes is counterproductive and makes her chances lower and lower. "Do you see my point now?" You don't have a point. It's like me saying "just wear lifts man, sure most women will mock you, but maybe there's a chance!" Doing something that makes her feel w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:27 PM
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That has not been my experience. That said, if true, you have perfectly explained why average women or below average women stay single. If they are treated like shit why date?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:21 PM
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it does not mean that women are secretly glad that their husband's cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:19 PM
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Because they aren't ever cum dumpsters. They'd feel different if they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:01 PM
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Men think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:00 PM
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Sure. Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 07:00 PM
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Lesbians don't want to marry men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:52 PM
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Because the men would treat them like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:52 PM
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That's equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity. Sorry you don't like meritocracies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:52 PM
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False. Men will absolutely chase hotty party girls and then want to settle with a basic betty who is sweet, nice, a good mother, and gives him basic sex regularly. That was me. It was insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:49 PM
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Exaclty why women stay alone. "Sorry you are too ugly to treat well and be faithful to"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:46 PM
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Men cheat more than women except perhaps in the early twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:42 PM
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There is a difference between being good company and wanting to swap bodily fluids and landry duty with that person. I have many friends I have zero interest in living with, in having sex with, in having inside my body, or in taking care of their laundry or sharing my finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:41 PM
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I am not compatible with everyone. No one is. Decent is a very low criteria. Do you tell your girlfriend, "you'll do - you are decent?"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:39 PM
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But okay and average doesn't mean compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:38 PM
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Not a skills issue. The skill is ensuring that he is already invested in you as a person FIRST.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:36 PM
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Jesus fucking christ that is pathetic. No, I don't want sex with some rando on the off chance he "might get addicted." Wome who do that are roundly mocked for being fools, town bikes, and sluts on this very board. How convenient for men: do what I want, fuck me, and maybe I'll keep you around for a relationship. Nah, fuck that shit. The sex aint good enough for the promise of a relationship. Men have run that con for generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:36 PM
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the biggest man slut I've know was also short. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:30 PM
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The dude is not an option. You all think we should be attracted to stats rather than the person. That's not how it works. Some hotty who smokes is an instaneous no to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:29 PM
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If that's the average guy, he's good looking. But I like those types of noses.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:28 PM
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I don't know. Why do men settle on women "who will do" but then cheat?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:27 PM
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They aren't, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:26 PM
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No. You age together. Women have this figured out. Men not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:26 PM
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It does, though, but its been a recent - last thirty years - occurence and is finally being discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:25 PM
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"Yes but could her standards be warped by social media and dating apps?" Says who? This gets repeated like a mantra but no evidence is ever submitted in support. If this is the case, couldnt you easily argue that men's standards have been warped for as long as we've had porn (Victorian porn is wild) so forever?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:24 PM
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"I've literally never seen a girl, 5.5/10 in looks that couldn't land some manner of man. I'm not talking about extreme cases either like abusers or desperate men looking for a living fuck doll. Or a lazy piece of shit that lacks any and all ambition. I mean a man, just a man that wants love as well." Love isn't enough, not for a long term relationship and that's what I was looking for when I was out on the market. If I were again on the market, I am still more LTR oriented. It has to be love pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:22 PM
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Because men are hypocrites. They do their best to cajole women into fucking them and increasing their body count. They claim they won't date a girl unless she shows immediate sexual attraction and jumps in bed fast, and then turn around and trash them for having high body counts. It's as if every woman you dated demanded that you pay her thousands of dollars within a week of dating and then turn around and say "you're too poor now that you've spent that money on other women as well as me."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:22 PM
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I don't see anyone blaming men for not dating her. I'd sympathize with a man sad he never got married either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:19 PM
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I don't care. I see far more men bring up DeCaprio than women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:17 PM
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My husband and I are both career driven. And we both make money. And we both put that money in the same pool. He uses it as do I.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:16 PM
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I bet you don't see the disconnect. If he's still hot enough he can cheat, why would she kick him to the curb. Sounds like she realized he was never going to change, burned through her love of him, and said she was done.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:15 PM
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Downvoting the person who actually comes with evidence. Never change, red pill, never change: "i'm going to cite the unfalsifable opinion of some youtube grifter that women 'secretly' love their husbands and boyfriends cheating. Any woman who disagrees is lying; any evidence that disagrees is based on lying women; and only I know their true secret heart! They love it when I fuck the baby sitter! It means I'm hot!" Two years later: "Why did she leave? Why won't she fuck me? Why does she loathe my…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:13 PM
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Here here
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:08 PM
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I've known women for at least 40 years, am one, and have seen numerous friends handling the cheating of their boyfriends, husbands, etc. All of them cry, are deeply hurt and betrayed, and none of them are proud that "sure he cheats but that's just him." Sure trophy wives may turn a blind eye - see Melania Trump - but they are well paid for it. They aren't people I'd admire.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:05 PM
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It' isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:03 PM
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I admit, I love rubbing my husband in my sister's face, but she deserves it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:02 PM
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Interesting you demand evidence from me regarding divorce grounds, but demand zero evidence from the original commentator that women secretly like their men cheating because it proves their man is desired. But here is my evidence: a. Studies show that men are far more likely to cheat as they get older than women. https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america b. Nowadays, it is hard to get the most reliable data because divorcees will cite "irreconcilable diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:01 PM
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"Because there's also a common trope of women leaving their highschool boyfriends that they loved and grew up with, as soon as they enter the real world and suddenly have 1000s of options" And its a very common trope that men also dump their highschool girlfriends once they realize they have all these options at college or after completing basic or at their jobs. It was a mainstay of teen dramas (see, e.g. Bring It On) that the slightly older boyfriend graduates and dumps his highschool girlfrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:21 PM
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This is a really good analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:30 PM
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Men: "I know she's crying hysterically, but she secretly loves that you fucked the next door neighbor." Also men: "whaaaa, women file for divorce 70% of the time!" **** Please tell me you are joking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:26 PM
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Usually has the reverse effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:08 AM
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"Much like when men spend time and money on a woman that doesn't mean she needs to sleep with him, the same can be said about women who give sex to attractive men. They don't see how It's the same situation." I actually have pretty middling EQ and social awareness, especially for a woman, and every goddamned woman I've ever run across knows that men have no trouble using women for sex and never committing. It's why we constantly warn one other. Edited to add: sure plenty of women may still try i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:07 AM
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To the contrary, the stats show that agriculture resulted in significantly more malnutrition, starvation, and disease. This is well studied in archaeology. https://psyc.franklin.uga.edu/sites/default/files/CVs/Agriculture.pdf https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6628670/ it resulted in a far more controllable population. Each individual had lower health, lower function, but it allowed for more people in a more concentrated area which benefited the elites quite well. The start of the tremendo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:04 AM
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Then get to the gym porky. Most men are fat too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:40 AM
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Except that men literally talk about butterface women and joke about putting a bag over the woman's head. They'll talk about closing their eyes and letting her blow them while they run a porno in their head. They'll flip them over so they aren't looking at them and do it doggy style. Men can't have it both ways. They can't claim men will fuck anything or that Chad will fuck way down, but then claim they won't get hard if she's not attractive. Men get hard at all sorts of things. And they can and…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 12:38 AM
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You don't. That's why you are wrong about immigration and crime in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:25 PM
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And not having a wife or girlfriend doesn't mean that society is ready to collapse
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:25 PM
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Seriously, the soft diplomacy of trade and multiple international bodies like WHO, WTO, and the United Nations as problematic as they can be have done so much to prevent another world war. It's like this dude has never cracked a history book.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:24 PM
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Double digit body counts doesn't prevent pregnancy or birth. I thought birth rates are a concern?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:21 PM
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Considering your crash out, I'd say men need women more than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:20 PM
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Males are still expected to provide [and] work.... So are women. sacrifice, etc. Really, what sacrifice?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:20 PM
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"Men responsibilities? Are you trolling? Men are 99% of work related deaths." None of that is due to women. Women are the ones in the US who enacted work place safety so men die less. Thank women for that. Also, few men die and they get paid for the risk. THey aren't risking their life for free. Women don't get paid but instead are expectd to pay for kids. As I said, want women to have kids for society, start paying like we do for police man and soldiers. Or shut up about "duties." https://www.a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:18 PM
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I gave him the facts. I'm sure he will keep screaming. There was an uptick in violence in the US during the pandemic - during TRUMP's administration in fact - but it rapidly dropped back. Because idle hands are the devil's workshop. I tend to agree with that saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:14 PM
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So what? It's the bare minimum. So I am correct. Love is not unconditional. Thank you for admitting it. False. And in any case, welfare is paid with male taxation. Women don't pay not even half the taxes men pay. Not false, at least in the UW, welfare is gender neutral. https://www.hhs.gov/civil-rights/for-individuals/section-1557/fs-sex-discrimination/index.html You are doing what is called "moving the goal posts." You're now trying to change the argument. So you concede*.* As to men paying mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:11 PM
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1) Immigation as a financial benefit in the US, and this has been known for years: https://www.bushcenter.org/catalyst/north-american-century/benefits-of-immigration-outweigh-costs https://www.epi.org/publication/u-s-benefits-from-immigration/ https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-impact-of-immigrants-on-the-us-economy/ I'll point to Musk, Sergey Brin, Einstein, Levi Strauss, and Joseph Pulitzer as only a few of the immigrants who have supercharged the US. We brain drain the best and hardest wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 09:54 PM
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I am not: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/what-the-data-says-about-crime-in-the-us/ https://ourworldindata.org/us-crime-rates Considering how wrong you are here, none of your other opinions (which have no evidence backing them up) are worth the pixels they use.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 09:42 PM
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I am not: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/what-the-data-says-about-crime-in-the-us/ https://ourworldindata.org/us-crime-rates Considering how wrong you are here, none of your other opinions (which have no evidence backing them up) are worth the pixels they use.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 09:42 PM
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We are not ignoring the facts and data, at least in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:33 PM
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crime rates are skyrocketing due to immigration and defunding police both promoter by women. NOT IN THE US. women sexually validate dark triade men. NO they don't. No more than men who claim they don't care except that a woman be pretty and agreeable. being a teacher does not automatically make you socialized or positive for the community if you spend your entire life trying to dismantling said community. Way to miss the point - the point is that women are predominately the ones who are keeping …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:33 PM
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Tell chads to stop fucking.... for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:19 PM
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So, toddler reasoning: "do it because men want it - WAHHH!" No man kept his dick in his pants becuase of what his future wife might think. I'm not running my life based on the values of a hypothetical future husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:17 PM
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Identifying bias is of course highly logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:16 PM
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Birth rate is literally women responsibility towards society. Tell me, what are men's responsibilities? Are they required to work for society gratis? No? Then sit down. I hate this shit. If society wants women to have babies, open up your wallet. I'm not going to give up my financial freedom for a society that will leave me poor and unvalued. Regarding crime rates: women validate criminal behaviour with sex, Who is responsible? The men who commit the crime or their girlfriends? The men. Stop bla…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:15 PM
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Or they are religious. I've known several of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:52 PM
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"Most women have had at least one casual sex experience, and the guys they sleep with are usually more attractive than the men they enter relationship." Facts not in evidence. Definitely not in my case. "Most women say they would not have hooked up with their husbands or boyfriends, or that their husbands are not as physically attractive as their hookups, and that looks are not as important in relationships. But you won’t have to worry about all this because you already experience casual sex." N…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:48 PM
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Cheating part. Cheers.!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:09 AM
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Women are absolutely loved unconditionally as they are not required any specific providing or behaviour to get love or assistance from society. Women with no job, no car, not virgin, even obese and single moms, all get loved. > Stop having sex with a man and watch how fast he dumps her. LOL. > And welfare is equally available to men and women. There is no special welfare for women. > Obese men are loved. Open your eyes and go outside. > I don't consider single parents unloveable. But single fath…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:58 AM
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First, historically speaking, people very much underestimate the actions of women in kicking off revolutions. I see it all over. I think it's because history always pays attention to the men because the men are "important" and had the monopoly of the high level positions in society. Also, when men get involved, they get shit done when it comes to violence. Temperance - before women could even vote, they were the driving force behind the 18th amendment. And it was violent. The most famous actor i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:40 PM
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I agree somewhat. Many women I know, at least when they are in their teens and mid twenties, have a more "go with the flow" methodology. They don't usually develop an execution plan: what type of men they mesh well with; where to locate those men; what type of values; and how to present themselves to attract those men. When I hit the dating market after a disastrous "just fall into" marriage, I was highly analytical in my approach, who I responded to, how I presented myself, and how I got out th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 05:17 PM
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Then very very unlikely. Too many younger men already found the gym and are better looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:46 PM
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"So young men who put in work later in life to become desirable men, will demand better women. Older women will not meet the cut. So younger women will be the only option." Ah yes, the revenge fantasy. "You'll be alone and old and unwanted with your cats!" Yes, very rich men with very good looks can play the field with young hotties - same as it ever was. But most men won't make the grade, no matter when they bloomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:46 PM
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Hey sending you good vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:41 PM
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Good on you. And I am being serious. I think it's good to understand that not all of us need to follow the typical script that society lays out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:38 PM
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"Because the starting point for many women is to have no responsibility." If you are trying to argue that this is society's view, I have a bridge to sell you. "And you're showing a good example with the excuses for the post marriage and kids lesbians. Doesn't matter what the damage is to other people or how practical the change asked for is, it's too much and it's unfair." OP was saying that those women should be screwed out of all marital assets. Assets that SHE has also contributed to. Bull.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:37 PM
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That too. It's just weird. It's taken as an item of faith that a woman who sleeps with a really hot dude at 23 in a one night stand is forever unable to enjoy a later partner. And of course, all these guys seem to think "looks" can be easily quantified like an engineering diagram when it's more like art. My first husband was 6/2. By that single fact, men here would assume my second husband at 5/7 is less attractive or that I was more attracted to husband 1. They couldn't be more wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:33 PM
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Notice men aren't partnering with women who don't fuck them? Sounds like a service to me. "You can choose someone who actually desires you." I can choose someone who won't mind me sucking him off in the back seat of a car. That doesn't mean he desires me. Just what I can do for him. "You actively choose to hinder yourself and then say it's because "men aren't choosing you"" You actively hinder yourself because you won't go visit a homeless shelter, take a middle aged toothless girl out for a din…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:29 PM
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All you have is rage and bitterness and that's why you can't cite any facts or data. Don't want to be divorce raped? Don't marry. The end. Don't want to work hard? Don't. Be a NEET. But don't pretend men built society for pussy. Bezos, Theil, and Elon aren't struggling for more money to get more sex. Theil's gay like Tim Cook. Bezos and Musk don't need a dime more. Tesla didn't care about women at all. Men built society for themselves. To lord over others, for their own safety, and for their own…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:07 PM
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Downvoting me doesn't make your arguments any better. "You could go outside right now say "I want a boyfriend" and be partnered in 5 minutes." And you could go outside right now and say, I'll pay everything for you and don't care if you are old and fat so long as you blow me, and you'd be partnered in 5 minutes. You'd just wouldn't be someone you'd want. There is a poster here - a freakin' lawyer as he tells it - who said he went to the local homeless shelter and essentially traded economic secu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:48 PM
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Men are not the selectors in the modern dating world, women are. Men are also selectors. This is so tiresome, especially as many men will immediately flip to "men build society, men are rational, and men are leaders" as soon as having agency suits their argument. Men don't approach every woman out there. We know that from the dating apps, evo-psych studies, and the real world. They don't pick fat girls, ugly girls, girls of different races, middle aged mothers. I know you desperately want to bla…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:53 PM
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Decreased: "percentage of females who just want to get fucked by a big dick stud". It's already well documented that GenZ men and women engage in far less casual sex. Increased: "care less about "lifelong partnership" has increased or decreased in the last 20 years?"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:44 PM
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Men are less selective for who they will sleep with, not who they will commit to
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:42 PM
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Pass that on to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:41 PM
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"Because women are abusing the sexual desire in men to increase sexual access to certain men, and in the process are ruining themselves for the men they actually naturally match with." First, women are not abusing the sexual desire in men. Those men aren't being forced to have sex with those women. The men want to fuck those women. The women want to fuck those men. Second, these women are not "ruining themselves" for "appropriate men." I've never seen nor have men presented one iota of hard evid…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:41 PM
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Sorry lady. Sending you the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:35 PM
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"Affection benefits both at the same time. But I cannot tell you how many times I have been pushed away by a partner when I offered to give them a backrub. So, if you are in a relationship with a man, then you should trust him enough to touch your body - as often as possible. If that last sentence made you squirm, that might be the problem." And I think a man who believes he should be able to touch his girlfriend and wife as much as he wants and won't accept boundaries is a serious problem. I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:35 PM
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Your comment is a perfect example of why women should ignore most men when they claim women are mean to men or unfair to men. Your feelings are ridiculous. I say that dating and fucking most men doesn't benefit women and you think I hate men. Being indifferent =/= hate. I doubt you'd find much benefit dating some woman 30 years older than you either. You want to buy dinner for someone who bores you to tears that you feel you need to entertain? Plenty of guys here make it clear that that is a ser…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:25 PM
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I know you have nothing but rage and emotion, but do try to engage your logical brain. Women are not loved unconditionally or they'd never be cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:09 PM
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Truly, keep speaking - you are just validating my point over and over - men are just too emotionally driven and in their fee fees to make a rational assessment over which party benefits them. All you have is fee fees. "The Carrol case was a joke, women who try to persecute men for alleged "sex crimes" they did 10, 20 years previous should be locked up. There's no possible way you can defend yourself against that. It's a kangaroo court." Sure. That's why there are dozens of accusations against ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:05 PM
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True - I pay the same taxable rate as men and earn more than most men and have been for quite a while AND I also carried the burden of pregnancy TWICE, that means I do far more than men for society. Can you give birth to a child? No? So you are inferior and do not deserve equal rights to me. You'll be handing in your voting card and being struck from the roles. You are inferior. Edited, since they wiped your response out. I'm an attorney. I play with the big boys. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:50 PM
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This is laughable. Your argument is that men's wage growth in a flourishing economy doesn't count because it doesn't help solely men? So an improved economy doesn't benefit white men because it also benefits black men? So in other words, your spite at women - pure emotion - outweighs your desire to improve the material conditions of your fellow man and yourself. As I said, incredibly emotional response. "Men benefit from having more money relative to women, essentially. That gives them the lever…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:43 PM
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Trump has been accused by 28 women of sexual assault. A jury of his peers found he sexually assaulted Carroll. One f those was a 13 year old girl as part of the Epstein pedo ring. And Trump was buddies with Epstein for YEARS. Trump bragged publicly - on the radio with Stern - of barging into the dressing room of underage teen contestants. Save me your pathetic lies and stupidity. Before Biden picked Harris or KJB, Trump said he'd select a woman as a replacement for Ruth Bater Ginsburg. Somehow I…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:02 PM
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Men get their feelings hurt by words all the time. Only someone deeply biased and blind could say this type of nonsense with a straight face. We have post after post here of men lamenting how rude or mean women are when they approach. We have men saying specifically they face constant rejection from women and they are depressed. All words. And men get their feelings hurt. "they get them hurt by policies and double standards." The economy functions better under a democratic presidency. That is ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:52 PM
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And most women don't like their spouses bringing back a STD or a woman with a baby pounding on the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:42 PM
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Neither sex nor fidelity is a need. It does not follow that you can cheat on your partner in a monogamous relationship because you want sex. We make all sorts of deals and agreements where we limit our personal autonomy all the time. As an example, to drive on the roads, we agree to get licensed and follow the rules of the road. If we do not, we not only lose our license to drive on those roads, but we can be fined or end up in jail. Driving or using a car isn't a need. We won't die without it. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 12:39 PM
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"Thank you for making it cr[y]stal clear. Honestly." Yes, crystal clear that we are equals. Crystal clear that we will stand up for ourselves. Crystal clear that men can't threaten and rage like little toddlers and expect women to forgive and forget. Men get what they give. Men here give hate. That's what they receive. But hey, at least I'd call the authorities to intervene. More than what most here men would do. Most men would just walk on by.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:58 AM
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And demanding sex from unwilling people under the threat of suicide is far more rapey and selfish than I was expecting from a decent man, but here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:55 AM
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No it was not. No where did he state that the only option for helping those men was female validation or attention. Rather, he set the premise that these men were suicidal without female validation or attention. They likely could be helped by strong SSRIs that kill the sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:51 AM
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Go do it then. After all, men here talk about having poor mental health due to lack of sex. Chop chop.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:49 AM
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It's very irrational position, lawyer. First, It relies on the false premise that the only way to save some man's life is by fucking them. Of course not. There are a multitude of other actions such as calling the authorities, calling family, or simply having a long deep discussion. Second, it relies on the false premise that unwanted sex is "discomfort" when any woman can tell you that it often results in internal abrasions and injuries. Let me know how you'd volunteer your body to save some man…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:48 AM
4

Good. Be one of those men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:39 AM
6

I don't get sexually turned on or wet for unattractive (to me) men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:39 AM
4

Did you love them? Care about them? I don't want sex with someone who calls me obese, older, and ugly. And I wouldn't enjoy it either. Why would I LET SOMEONE INSIDE MY BODY if I don't even enjoy it? Get a prostitute and pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:39 AM
4

This makes exactly zero sense. We select the ones we want. We don't expand our pool to those we don't want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:36 AM
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Sorry, me not wanting to have sex with every man out there doesn't make me closed minded, apathetic or uncaring. And your desire to have sex with anything that moves without standards is gross, apathetic, and uncaring.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:35 AM
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Why are women required to "figure it out" at their peak. What do men do when they reach their peak? Settle down? Hardly. They fuck around. Some hottie from Dubai or down the street DMS them, those dudes are right there with their dicks out. And of course, girls getting DMs from Dubai are in the top 10%, so.... sounds pretty much equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:33 AM
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It's like dating and fucking most men doesn't benefit women at all, and actually may severely harm her prospects because of men's obsession with n counts and whether some earlier boyfriend was hotter or had a bigger dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:31 AM
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Men have a moral obligation to acknowledge that the only reason they had access to all those jobs, promotions, and educations was because they used force, harassment, and the law to exclude equally qualified women and most men were unable to compete. Do you thank the lords that they don't come and rape your wife and daughters as you watch before slitting your throat and enslaving your boys to be eunuchs? After all, but for their forbearance, they'd have so much more sex, bastard children, and mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:29 AM
2

I am a straight married woman with many straight married friends, and I have heard exactly ZERO women say this: "You’ve no doubt heard straight women in relationships with men use the phrase “my money is my money and his money is our money”. I've heard plenty of men CLAIM that women say this, but I haven't heard it at all. In my own marriage, my husband has full access to all of my money. Our accounts are shared. He can use my money. I actually held some money back once. Sort of found money. I u…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:25 AM
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" and stop allowing this BS of 3s walking around thinking they are 10s...." I'm sorry, who made you God? Do you want to date those 3s? No? Then what do you care if they are delusional or not? I've watched men shoot outside of their level. I've had men try it with me. I turned them down nicely. I didn't try to pop their ego. I don't waste my time with delusional men who post picks of themselves on line and claim to be a HVM. Why would I? Life will take care of it. Some men always do this. You see…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:21 AM
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" man wanting the best partner he can attract is often called shallow, entitled, selfish, insecure, or unrealistic. A woman wanting the best partner she can attract is usually described as having standards, knowing her worth, refusing to settle, or doing what is best for herself." Men very often tell women they are unrealistic and need to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:13 PM
1

I think it's a problem of the sub this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:10 PM
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The other side isn't hurt more, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:09 PM
2

I thought you all were against DEI
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:08 PM
1

I generally agree with the thrust of your comment. I however continue to extend a great deal of sympathy and interest in helping out boys myself. They are children. But that's me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:07 PM
2

I think it's that they target initiatives to women or people of color or the disabled, but not "men" because cis white male is seen as the "default society." This cuts both ways. Cis white. men are see as "G I Joe" or "John Q Public" or "real American". Pragmatically, many of the democratic policies would very much help men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:04 PM
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And you have Grab Them By the Pussy elected president.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:00 PM
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Did I say Europeans were working 10 hours a week? Or do you realize that your comment bragging over working 12 hours a day was a bit of a self own and you now have to engage in a straw man? In fact, long time studies show that working beyond 40 to 50 hours a week is actually quite unproductive. Perhaps you should work smarter rather than harder. https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/rauch/worktime/ https://cs.stanford.edu/people/eroberts/cs181/projects/crunchmode/econ-hours-productivity.html An…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:55 PM
2

So in other words, you have AI agents doing your work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:43 PM
3

That's your choice. In Europe, most men realize a life is worth living.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:42 PM
2

You are free not work those hours. I've worked seven days a week although rarely. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:41 PM
5

Men really are hung up on hierarchies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:40 PM
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I've seen some like that yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:39 PM
1

I'm a feminist and also a woman. This is a really odd comment
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:38 PM
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"What men really wish for is to be loved unconditionally just like women already are." Women are not loved unconditionally. No one - except perhaps babies and small children - are loved unconditionally. If that is what you expect, your view is quite childish, and you are setting yourself up for misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:37 PM
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"There are two ways any sought of sexual relationship can end for women. You’ve had your heart broken, or you don’t value personal connection for sexual endeavours." This of course is false. Most people don't have traumatic break ups. Most people understand relationships much better after some experience. Plenty of people - men and women - break up with their first serious girl/boyfriend and move on to have lovely marriages with others. Do you consider divorced men or men who are not virgins poo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:36 PM
1

Ug. Christianity has terrible marriage advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:27 PM
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I really do not understand your line of argumentation. I could post a dozen links to videos where men are acting emotional, argumentative, and dumb while their wives are being reasonable? I could post a dozen news stories of husbands gambling away their (and their wives) retirement. "We are just trying to point out the hypocrisies, and hoping that women in general pick a side. Do you want us to approach or not? Pick one. We'll adjust to it. Just don't complain about it." It is absolutely an irra…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:25 PM
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My maternal grandmother was married to another man when she met and fell in love with my granddad. They cheated. They divorced their respective spouses and married each other. You very much misunderstand if you think everyone married at 22 and stayed married forever in the past. Pre antibiotics (say pre 1900), wives and/or husbands died and their living spouses remarried. Read the Canterbury Tales. Catherine Parr married four times by the time she was 36. Her third husband was King Henry VIII. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:22 PM
1

Same same experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:17 PM
10

Right. My ex did that. Not sex but to not leave him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:15 PM
15

go look at the n count post
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:15 PM
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" had the suspicion that women would let men die instead of saving them if it created discomfort for them. Now I know it." This is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:15 PM
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ESPECIALLY 1
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:14 PM
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If it was proven without room for doubt that sexlessness and lack of female attention and validation is the root cause for the rates of male suicidality would it 1.) make you find this issue more serious Yes. I take all issues that lead to deaths of despair seriously. However, that needs to be addressed through improving men's mental health and economic health starting when they are boys. 2.) make you be more open to giving attention to more men Nope. 3.)would it make you willing to have sex wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:12 PM
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The problem is that this is what is stated here. That men only do anything for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:09 PM
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Young men aren't being belittled. They are being told they are being belittled by certain right wing influencers. A decade ago I was told I couldn't possibly be liberal since I owned (and still do) guns. That's because that person had listened to nothing but right wing propaganda that painted an ugly exaggerated picture of liberals. It's the same game that Libs of TikTok plays. Are there asshole women on line? Sure, just like asshole men. But do tell me why we or the right never seems to worry a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:07 PM
1

I think it is a matter of exclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:05 PM
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This is what I think: I think men need to start using facts over feelings. I mean, isn't that what men always tell women? We are too emotional while men are just more rational and logical? And yet I see men getting their feelings "hurt" over language used by left leaning people or even just women, and they knee jerk vote for the other side even though the other side is far worse for them. However, since I am not nearly as emotionally driven as a teenage boy or 22 old man, I know that everyone, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:04 PM
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And Sex in the City (which also involved women interested in marrying and settling down) came long after Huge Hefner
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 04:18 PM
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I disagree with these characterizations. I can't tell whether you are engaged in some poetic license or if you only pay attention to a very certain kind of woman. My generation was really one of the most sexually promiscuous, unlike the current GenZs, who are far less likely to engage in casual sex. I have never heard nor experienced - despite growing up in a college town surrounded by "smash the patriarchy" types - women pressuring other women to engage in casual sex as some kind of social stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 04:16 PM
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Why on earth are you downvoting me? Fragile? I literally wanted to know if causation versus correlation had been teased out and pointed to anecdotal data (you know what that means) that indicates it might be causation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:33 PM
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"You did see the phenomenon in which countries considered the most equals feature women who prefer to not work and be SAHM?" Did you know in our society we have men who are SAHP's too. My brother is one. "But when they're in couple with a guy it's them who push for commitment anyway." Because if they want kids, their time line is tighter than a man. And they would be fools (and there are far too many) to have a kid outside of wedlock.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:31 PM
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This is exactly the approach I took. No ring, no children.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:32 PM
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Mothers have been breaking the cycle. You did see the newest polls which show that women are far more interested in getting a good career and education than a marriage and kids, right? Neither of my teen girls are that interested in dating or marriage. They are far more interested in a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:30 PM
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And because they do, men get to sit back and bitch about marriage and relationships being such a burden confident that some woman will still want to marry them or have a relationship with them. Until they don't, and now men are singing a different toon. Men got to be in the catbird seat - able to play around, try to have lots of casual sex, and then have a little woman desperate to settle down with him. Now that isn't happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:28 PM
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I disagree. There has been a shift, but it hasn't gone anti marriage, but rather that women/girls have other options. As an example, the Disney princess motif as late as 2010 said that a woman would find her happiness and love in marriage in Tangled. That is what Rapunzel "won" in the end. It was Frozen (2013) that flipped that on its head with Elsa and Anna. Anna's "prince" was a loser. Elsa never partnered up. It was about sisterly love. Yet still there was a good guy in the background - Krist…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:24 PM
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Lysa this is good. Glad you've got a keeper
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:14 PM
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"Men don't magically live longer because they are married. Women just marry men with better careers and prospects and they tend to live longer than their poorer counterparts." Are you sure about that? Do you have studies that tease that out? Because many scholars point out that women will often ensure their husbands go to the doctor, take better care of themselves, and are present to act in the case of a health crisis. My husband had two that would have left him dead but for the fact that I was …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:13 PM
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Both men and women benefit from marriage. Men just want all the upsides - a nice little lady to keep the house clean, take care of his health, cook healthy meals, and raise his kids - without the downsides, such as having to spend money on her or being tied to her when a younger hotter thing comes along. The thing is that men can get all the upsides of marriage without a legal paper, but he only gets the downsides if he gets the legal paper. Or so he thinks. Men stupidly believe that she'll stay…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:10 PM
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Ah, yes, as we know women are worthless after the age of 30. Shocking. Are you under the impression that divorced out on the dating market aren't also used up and damaged with their best years behind them? Because they are. They are old, dumpy, and bitter. And they have twice the problems women do getting paired up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:26 AM
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Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:19 AM
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https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2025/02/struggling-men-hurt-noncollege-womens-marriage-prospects Marriage rates: "Reviewing historical data from the Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey, they examined outcomes at age 45 for women born between 1930 and 1980. Marriage rates remained remarkably stable among college-educated women, holding above 70%, but dropped sharply among those without degrees – from 78.7% to 52.4%."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 12:10 AM
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"Like what "free sex", literally just vet him the same way and make him jump through the same hoops as every other guy who approached you first like what's the problem?" They lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:33 PM
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Yah, I did much better when I didn't approach
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:33 PM
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Most women aren't interested in short term.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:28 PM
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It is amazing to me how privileged men are to claim that they aren't being treated as human if no one happens to select them on a dating app.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:27 PM
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Fat women are treated worse than comparably fat men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:26 PM
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"I have never seen an ugly woman alone(bla bla they want to fuck her)." I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:25 PM
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Let me tell you how my mom used to date, back before reliable birth control and the sexual revolution. You'd meet at church or school dances. Chances are that you knew her family and vice versa. And family really exerted a lot of influence over who dated whom. A gal would date many guys at the same time. You didn't "go steady". That only happened after a while. She went out with Bert on Saturday and then Abe the next Saturday. You had to meet the family. You came into the house and sat on the co…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:23 PM
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We don't. Thanks bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:17 PM
0

I don't think it is suddenly hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:16 PM
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90s? Nah. but the early aughts up till 2009 crash were better.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:15 PM
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Women aren't hive minds. Those men get left in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:15 PM
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They don't. That's the point. She has to "whore it up" and "make an effort."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:13 PM
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And we know that men only desire young, skinny, attractive women, so I guess we know that men are only after the top 10% right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:12 PM
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Then show those papers. Because the 80/20 rule has not been proven. Yes women prefer taller men who are economically secure. That doesn't mean they only go for the top 20%. Papers show that men prefer skinny, young women with a certain hip to waist ratio. Does that mean that men only go for the top 20% as most women aren't skinny, very young, or have a certain hip to waist ratio?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:11 PM
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How do you know that? This is the part that's such bullshit. How do you know they are equal? I'm a size eight middle aged woman. Do you think that means I have to date/should be attracted to every middle aged man who makes roughly the same money? I like books, am very intelligent, and am very waspy. A long range trucker who thinks coors beer and baseball games and hate books isn't a match for me. Why should I date him? If he doesn't go outside and can't ski, hike, bike, or isn't that active, he …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:07 PM
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That's what the stats show. That's what you all claim over the wall, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 10:56 PM
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Most women do NOT have access to relationships. They do have access to sex because men don't mind fucking ugly gross women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 10:55 PM
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But that is because women often take reduced hours once kids come. It shows that college women are far more likely to get married than non-college educated women. Way to be deceptive with statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 10:54 PM
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Oh yes they do. They might get sex. Not relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 10:52 PM
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deference? All the guys around here who want submissive men? I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 10:51 PM
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Many women are barred from relationships. They can usually get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 10:51 PM
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"selection implies guarantee" Really, so you have no choice but to marry the woman who goes out on a date with you? You can't dump her? You can't say no? What happened to the "men are the gatekeepers of relationships." Guys here want their victimhood SO BADLY that they will twist themselves into pretzels and pervert knowledge, all so they can feel that "justified" anger at women or the world rather than ever look inside. From M-W dictionary, "the act or process of selecting : the state of being …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 10:50 PM
1

I'll have to fidget it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:34 PM
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All you've demonstrated how incredibly sheltered you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:33 PM
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“Last dance with Mary Jane” is literally a song about necrophilia. IT IS NOT ABOUT NECROPHILIA WTF??? It's about marijuana and depression and sex
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:31 PM
5

Come on baby light my fire.....
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:29 PM
3

No
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:27 PM
3

So YES about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:27 PM
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Black men are men last I've checked
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:26 PM
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"Where as men are praised in private for sexually conquering women, but its seen as too uncouth to promote in main stream media." HAHAHAHAHAHA OMG. Men have been bragging about sex for years in music. So I answered below, but just have to drop this in: My favorite sex songs by male singers. " wanna fuck you like an animal I wanna feel you from the inside I wanna fuck you like an animal My whole existence is flawed You get me closer to God" Nine Inch Nails Closer. One of my favorites (1994) "Swea…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:24 PM
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It's about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:12 PM
5

So, it's a little hard to divide a line between romance and sex. But explicitly sex. Plenty of people have pointed out hiphop, but big hair bands had ton, like "poor some sugar on me" "she's only 17." There's "Cat scratch fever." I'm just naming these off the top of my head of the famous ones. Cherry Pie. My husband loves to play me "Baby Got Back" and "Bedonkadonk" because I do have a damned fine ass for a white woman. Round but no jiggle. Bloodhound Gang's Bad Touch is one of my favorite fuck …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:11 PM
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No, and I love sex and have bedroom fun with my husband often
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 06:01 PM
3

This is absolutely false. WOW. You must want to exclude the systemic colonization of Africa and chattel slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:48 PM
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"Most of these get reclassified as infanticides or are misattributed to SIDS or PPD and thus absent from homicide stats." Holy shit. I cannot believe you said that. And did you forget fathers are in the house too?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:46 PM
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The nickname nanny dogs is propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:44 PM
4

God damned yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:41 PM
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"Then I tried to get a job. I realized if I was women then I would be hired more easily(affirmative action)." LMAO. Proof? Because the studies disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:38 PM
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Average women don't get thousands of potential matches. Above average ones do. And most just want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:37 PM
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"You still had to provide something that was beyond your body." So do women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:36 PM
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They are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:36 PM
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Many women aren't opposed to forcibly (chemically) castrating the bottom N% of men. I Facts not in evidence. In westernized civilization girls are much preferred now for adoption over boys. This is an incredibly new occurrence. And in certain places in India and in China (how big is china again? 18% of the world's population), selective abortion and infanticide has led to boys way outnumbering girls. If an alien race came to earth without history biasing their perceptions they'd see like 97% of …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:35 PM
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Hilarious how anyone could have a passing understanding of other countries and think this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:32 PM
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If you look at my post above, you will see I have deep personal experience - my entire life - in the disabled community and also the trials and tribulations and triumphs of what happens with those suffering Down syndrome. To have some asshole call it eugenics is revolting if they've no idea how hard it is. Would you like the stats?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:30 PM
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Bullshit. Point out a women's hobby that doesn't include men or that men are not included in? Cooking? Book clubs? Art/crafts/painting? Hell men are in nail salons now. I see them. They are in yoga class and dance class. They definitely are in Roblox where my girls play. "Inject your wokism into everything but the women need to be hot." But I ws advised that men like all sorts of women. Seems like there are a bunch of men who are into that character's look.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:28 PM
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Then you'll be sure to demand all male video games right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:26 PM
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We do. Both my girls are avid gamers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:25 PM
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So men don't support men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:25 PM
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Woof. Do I disagree. Women's must focuses a bit more on romance. Men's focuses on sex. (Although damn, my husband used to send me "I hold on" and melted my heart. And I don't really like country).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:23 PM
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I applaud Finland. I disagree, though, that this society ignores men. There is a lot of efforts to help men logistically (retaining programs offered specifically to coalminers) and emotionally (more support for drug treatment - primarily men, counseling, veteran intervention - again primarily men) Who shoots that down?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:20 PM
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It is terrible for both sexes. I've banned my kids from having all the stupid AI friends that are being pushed. Google AI psychosis. AI is TERRIBLE for interpersonal relationships and we've known it for almost 60 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:16 PM
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direct hit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:10 PM
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Dogs when they see anything at all....
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:09 PM
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yes, isn't it funny how men always want to keep women stupid. I wonder why that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:09 PM
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Unless you've walked the walk, sincerely, shut the fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:08 PM
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I have strong opinions on this. My mom has been disabled since birth. And it's an overt disability. She grew up before the ADA was a thing and was denied access to public education. she devoted her life to being a special ed and early intervention for disabled children, including Down syndrome. As a consequence, I too knew a lot about it. I could read brail and type it despite being fully sighted. I learned sign language. When I was pregnant, my mom pulled me aside and said, "if there is any ind…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 04:06 PM
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Yes. This exactly. I've wanted to post that the current system - which allows people to choose individually - is the most fair system, even if that means that the ugliest have little or no choice and might end up alone. When men grouse about women having the freedom to choose, I ask them if they are willing to give up their own freedom? If they glow up at 35 are they going to pass on the nubile 20 year old so they don't take a woman otherwise "available" for a 25 year old who is poor? Of course …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:59 PM
4

Okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:02 PM
1

You are entirely correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 03:00 PM
6

If they read history books, it about the battle of Agincourt, not of ordinary family structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:59 PM
5

LOL, like you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:57 PM
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"f people stop having children due to lack of money, then why are the poorest places on earth having the most children?" Lack of reliable birth control Limited female autonomy Less loss of opportunity having kids. Kids often become sources of labor value.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:56 PM
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"My partners worst software crunch was a deadline for a startup that turned into 16 hours a day for 8 months. He started flat out hallucinating during the last 2 weeks from fatigue. I was feeding him every meal at his desk as he WFH long before covid19." Shivers. Went through that with my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:54 PM
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Because we have reliable birth control
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:54 PM
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All hell does not break loose.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:52 PM
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None of you have read Jane Austin and it shows. My original background is archeology, and history remains my first love. I've spent years reading - for fun - scholarly work regarding research into the ordinary man and woman and that always always always involves discussions of family formation. History isn't limited to great men and big battlers (although the technological advantage of the longbow is also an interest). Pride and Prejudice describes with perfect clarity the types of marriages tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:51 PM
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You know what, I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:33 AM
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If she has to teach him how to be a leader, that means she's the leader.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:29 AM
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I'm sorry, this gets funnier and funnier. Do you realize what you are writing? You are telling women to teach their husbands to make plans, recognize issues in marriages, and do long term planning..... so that he can then delegate those tasks to her and instruct her. But she's the ONE who TAUGHT HIM. That makes HER the LEADER. "Only then there will be harmony, without constant fighting, nagging, outbursts, no dead bedroom, no cheating, etc." After all, why should the lil' lady who supported him …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:28 AM
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You are the one who claimed that women can only find happiness in the "top 5%" of men, no matter how defined and the rest are doomed to single-dom and misery. It seems you are moving the goal posts now. If you recognize that far more men than just 5 % can be wonderful partners and companions, irrespective of occupation (I agree), then your "warning" to women falls apart and is illogical - there is no desperate need for women to invest and make a man better herself or fight it out with tons of ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:19 AM
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So saying that women always want a strong dominant man to lead her is fine, but pointing to evidence that demonstrates that strong dominant men enjoy submission in the bedroom is a personal attack. And yet men like to claim that they are quite logical and base their views on facts rather than feelings. "I hope you find warmth one day after you meet someone who makes you feel safe enough to be soft and feminine, the natural state in harmony with your nature, TheColdWoman." I've been happily marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:06 AM
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"On the surface, you may desire equality, and believe you can handle everything yourself. But deep down there is a desire to be proven wrong, and a truly masculine man will bring out the natural feminine energy in her." Deep down I think men who speak like you do want to be tied up and pegged. You dream of a woman who tie you up and make you call her mommy. And there is even evidence to prove it. https://www.psypost.org/bdsm-boardroom-powerful-people-aroused-sadomasochism-study-finds/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:26 PM
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So? If someone is only mid looking and making 50k, she (and he) should expect to marry a mid looking partner making around the same? Most people engage in assortive mating - the lawyer and the doctor, two teachers, etc. I hear myself just fine. YOU don't HEAR yourself: Im giving advice to women who specifically want a partner in life, but dont want to compete with everyone else for just the top 5%. You can stay alone if you want while others live happy fufilling lives with partners they form a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 06:22 PM
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You mean like generally confused? Who is the one who brought it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:52 PM
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"Obviously it was a very traumatic experience for her, but she has said that she feels that feminists have made it worse by constantly saying that constantly saying that it should be some big, horrible, scarring thing that ruins your life forever." So feminists aren't allowed to talk about serious issues like a child being molested because it hurts her feelings? She isn't over shit. She just wants it all swept under the rug so she doesn't have to think about her out terrible experiences any more…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:51 PM
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No, they just give the guy a fake number and take off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:47 PM
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Not what I said. Since you missed it, I was mocking your idea that "bad women" made men misogynistic and used the Bible as a contra example. But yes the Bible is extremely misogynistic and propagated those ideas through out society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:46 PM
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"Women's sexuality tends to look for men they can admire and even follow, though even then there is an internal tension and part of the woman tends to want to rebel at the same time." This is revolting, just revolting. Women are not teenagers. What bullshit. I know men are all about hierarchies. Men are always looking for the "stronger male" to grovel to - look at all the men like J.D. Vance, Johnson, Cruz, and Cornyn who grovel before Trump - "please Trump, call my wife ugly and tell me my dadd…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:42 PM
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And loves slavery
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:34 PM
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See, I'd never trust a man who relies on the musings of Bronze Age sheep herders from rural Judea to lead me. Pretty irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:33 PM
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LMAO. Wow, that right there is some irrational and emotional thinking. I've got news for you, by that metric a lot of captains of industry are complete submissive. https://www.thecut.com/2015/09/why-some-powerful-men-like-getting-tied-up.html
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:32 PM
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"But there is always a leader of a team" Actually, no, not in a two person team. It's called collaborative decision making - and is quite effective in a two person team. https://www.pmi.org/learning/library/collaborative-decision-making-group-7667 Some men are such submissives. They will immediately bow down and line themselves up to follow what they consider a higher status male. They just can't comprehend a different method.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:30 PM
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And yet, I invested in myself, developed my own great career, and still found a great guy who I consider a top 5%. If one is a fabulous match, one will get a fabulous match.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:28 PM
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Of course, bad women made men write the bible claiming we are subservient and lesser
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:26 PM
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If you are going to a foreign land to engage in a lot of no strings attached casual and early sex while shopping for a relationship, don't be a hypocrite and slag western women as being easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:29 PM
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I was going to say, I'm the south. Many people carry guns.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:27 PM
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Goddamned.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:26 PM
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But the vast majority of women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:25 PM
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This is a grade A example of using statistics to lie. Yes, women are more likely to get casual sex if they want it, because almost all men are down for it. But few women want casual sex. That's why men don't have it nearly as much as they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:24 PM
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More often the woman pays when they make the accusation, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:23 PM
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But these PPBS meanwhile trash the women back home as whores, used up, or mean because those women know the score.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:18 PM
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Then don't pretend you are moving because the foreign population of girls are so much "purer" and more conservative compared to the hateful man hating western woman. Just say you want easier sex - ie, you want them to be less conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:17 PM
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Here comes the PPB again.... My step bro is married to a Swiss girl in Geneva. My cuz is married to a Japanese girl in Japan. The issue is the details. Marrying a Phillipino girl because you fell in love. Great! Marrying a Philipino girl because you want to use your superior financial leverage to isolate and control her, not good.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:15 PM
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"The only reason men have been leaders previously is because they made it law that women couldn’t." This comment is not addressed to the United States, so why are you quoting the United States' constitution? In addition, it is incredibly disingenuous to quote only that one section of the US constitution to prove that women could be presidents, considering the constitution was not even amended until 1920 to allow women the right to vote in federal elections. Do you take the position that Jim Crow…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:11 PM
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irst, generally speaking men are more mature, more rational and less emotional than women. So if you picked out a random man and a random woman; put them together; and one person had to lead; generally speaking both would be better off if the leader were the man. Incorrect: https://news.umich.edu/men-women-ride-the-same-emotional-roller-coaster/ Much of our thoughts about women being "emotional" is because society either does not recognize male anger as "emotion" or certain socialization that al…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:02 PM
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We were there as children who watched our mothers. And we also heard what mothers and grandmothers said.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:15 PM
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They don't. That's why "are we dating the same guy" exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:07 PM
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Aw, look how sad and triggered you are, desperately trying to shit on me and my love. The word is deserve. And I do deserve a good man and got one. Keep giving your money to internet grifters to fill that yawning hole of misery in your heart. Maybe one day you'll be lucky enough to find the love and happiness I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:04 PM
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He isn't average to me. I don't give a flying fuck how others see him. That's the point, pookie, and it went right over your head. What a miserable life to live - to refuse to realize that an "average man" can be a woman's Prince Charming.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 07:33 PM
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As if porn and video games don't effect men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:06 PM
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Women don't like to share.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:04 PM
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I'm not marrying an average man. It isn't worth it to me. I did marry a great man, so yeah! And no he isn't 6 feet tall whatever whatever and definitely has a dad bod.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:03 PM
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You are the one who used a question not even directed at you to shit all over women. Please take a close look in the mirror after you dry your eyes. Your slip is showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:46 PM
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Grindr is unsafe? I suppose that shouldn't surprise me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:45 PM
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Wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:43 PM
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"We are still biologically superior to you" Men are biologically weaker than women. They have xy instead of xx, exposing them to more genetic mutations and risks. Their immune system is weaker than women. New born girls are more hardy than male children. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-men-the-weaker-sex/ (by the way, I generally like men, no matter how bad those here are)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:41 PM
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You don't have anything to give to a woman. Seems like you should be submissive. My husband didn't "give me everything." I have this thing called a career and education, all that I earned on my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:36 PM
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Women don't forget that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:35 PM
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Why is a man better than me because he's taller and stronger than I am? Seems he is - like all men - inferior to me since I have tits and a uterus. Or do you just not understand the meaning of sexual dimorphism?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:35 PM
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Men who lash out are generally dealt with harshly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:30 PM
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So they lowered their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:30 PM
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When I went back on the market as a woman, I hit the gym and also got prettified. I didn't stop though after meeting my husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:29 PM
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Pretty damned high. Homeless have a life span 15 to 30 years shorter than the national average.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:27 PM
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Seems very personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:26 PM
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Red Pill Men are just too emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:24 PM
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God LURRRVE indian curry.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:23 PM
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US. 1x a week or so?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:22 PM
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She is lovely.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:22 PM
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I tried really hard to pay half for all the first dates I was on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:22 PM
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David French - rolls eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:20 PM
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Good luck sweetheart.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:20 PM
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No they aren't. LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:19 PM
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No it doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:18 PM
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I had the same experience at Momocon, also anime
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:17 PM
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Consider an in person writing group. I am a member of one and it is amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:15 PM
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Doesn't matter what you ask a red pill man, his rage at women will come bubbling out. Just too emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:14 PM
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Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:13 PM
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AI Women Robots will herald the Human Apocalypse. When AI Robots are good enough to replace women as companions to men - for sex and emotional companionship - robots will be good enough to replace men as well. Women will take their AI boyfriends attached to a dildo. And companies will replace us all with AI robots. You think women will be on the side of the road, crying. No dude, you will be Soylent green or a battery just like the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:12 PM
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Men don't want families and kids more than women - they want sex. Really, it amazes me how many men come here and claim that they alllll just want a little woman and a few bairns and if they don't get it, they'll slither home to live in the basement as society falls down around them. And women are failing society by refusing to date, fuck, and marry men. Society is going to fall and it's all women's fault. Please. Stop insulting our intelligence, and apply economics here. First, 99.0 % of men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 11:08 PM
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The Catholic Church, every church in the US, every political party claims to be pro morality. Are they all nazis.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:36 PM
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That's why you don't play the game with guys like that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:32 PM
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So men are beasts?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:29 PM
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I am related to several individuals on the spectrum and this - "but expect social script perfection from others" is so goddamned true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:27 PM
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Agreed. The kid is the goddamned commitment people.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:26 PM
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That sucks. That's pretty shitty for that woman to stand you up like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:25 PM
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I've seen comments here that state women are not taught how to treat men, are not interested in developing relationships with men and take no interest in securing men. Do men believe that women receive no advice/education on how to secure a man for a relationship and marriage and only men are told they need to improve? Because, if so, wow. Let's put aside all the unsolicited commentary that women receive for posting pics or just existing - I've been told to lose weight, gain weight, cut my hair,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:24 PM
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Any study that indicates that tall men are more abusive? I am all ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:56 AM
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Like young boys being told to appologize for being men? I have never seen this verified in real life. Not a news article, not in my kids' lives. Like killallmen being an incredibly popular thing to say for a while? I never saw this, beyond wasting way too much time on twitter. learned about the "killallmen" here. It wasn't "incredibly popular." Like saying that men need to hold one another accountable for mens sexual misbehaviour? No. The point is that if you see your buddy raping a woman, you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:54 AM
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Yes and no. You all assume that all abusers are the same. They aren't. Below, there is an example of the first: a man that seemed completely nice to everyone, to his friends, to his parents, to his other girlfriends, who then turns when married or when she gets pregnant. This is a well documented and no one sees it coming. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0301211599001645 There is no skills issue. Second, there are men who do flash their abusive nature quickly. Unfortunatel…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:42 AM
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Sure. THey aren't interested in settling down.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:06 AM
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"MO, having a little fear is good. It makes us work harder and put in more effort into keeping the good things/people in our lives." But apparently that's only a one way street, hmmm? She should fear losing him, but he should be all "next." You know my ex played those games with me. Always made me worried that he'd dump me for a "better girl." I divorced him. He cried.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:05 AM
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"A woman that has such a man will fear losing him implicitly because he is a rare find." Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:03 AM
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"ome women may be seeking what you describe, but I believe others are happy when they have a man that leads, is ambitious and successful, calls her out on her BS, and who she can’t easily replace. A man who is already fully “grown” and doesn’t need to evolve or be involved in any other “journey” but his own. She is happy to enter his life and be there to reap the benefits of his hard work. As long as they’re both attracted to each other and happen to share similar values." In other words, you wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:03 AM
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The point is that this long predated redpill. This is normal dating advice that has been around forever. Like tellng women ot lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:02 AM
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Did you or did you not recommend cutting all the social welfare nets? Yes or no? If you did, then you don't care if children are hurt, since they (boys too) are the main recipients. Or did you not think through the results of your proposals? Which is it? Do you not care about hurting children in your efforts to impoverish women? Or do you just not think?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:51 AM
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I noticed you couldn't rebut any of my solid points, not on healthcare, not on education, and not on housing. I'll take that as a concession. Good little housecat.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:49 AM
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Yes you are. Stop being disenginuous. Considering my daddy put a lugar in my hands at age nine, I've been a net taxpayer with a salary over six figures since the mid aughts, and have a wide social network, I'll be very fine. I am a strong, independent woman who has never taken a dime in welfare. And apparently, I am attractive enough to marry a high level IT D.Sc. who adores me. When did you last have someone willing to scratch your back, take care of you when you are sick, love you when you wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:46 AM
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"You can live a full and complete life without education." No you cannot. Really, if you don't understand the basics of society and how it functions, you should just be quiet. God give me the ignorant confidence of a man who thinks he's educated by using google. https://thedebrief.org/600000-years-ago-a-transfer-of-ancient-knowledge-kicked-off-a-sudden-and-rapid-advance-in-technology/ One of the HALLMARKS of early hominid success is the generational transfer of knowledge. Without that, you'd be …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:38 AM
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Sex work is legal in many areas like Denmark. Women have not lost their collective bargaining power. We do not live in a gynocracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:25 AM
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Thank Dr. Frances Kelsey for having safe medications. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_Oldham_Kelsey Thank women for OSHA https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7144431/ https://sites.law.duq.edu/juris/2019/12/01/the-radium-girls-a-tale-of-workplace-safety/ They've saved a shit ton of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:23 AM
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Yes. It's amazing how willing he is to punish children and boys in his vendetta against women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:18 AM
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You should read Charles Dickens or Thomas Hardy. See what happens when the poor are left on their own. It involves a lot of crime and a lot of dead men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:17 AM
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Please come and comment more
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:15 AM
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Good, so you won't be threatening to strip social safety nets in an effort to force poor women to again pair with men they despise to avoid starvation, right? And you won't be complaining about lack of intimacy or sex anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:12 AM
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He is married. He claims his daughters are young.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:11 AM
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So you say that the vast majority of men ages 30-34 are psychopathic, narcissitic, and machiavellian? Because most of those men are married or cohabitating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:11 AM
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I'd stay with my husband even if we couldn't have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:09 AM
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Would you still help her if she attacked you and stole from you? Would you still give $300 to the worst person you know if they truly needed it? So what men do then? Because the OP is calling women net takers and threatening to remove social safety nets to hurt them (and to hell with their kids - boys and girls - and the countless men on disability). Women aren't threatening men. Women aren't attacking OP or stealing anything from him. They are simply living their lives and not fucking him. He i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:08 AM
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Yet every threat to kill social safety nets shows you absolutely believe you are owed sex for paying taxes. You want poor women with children forced by poverty to give you sex. Reprehensible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:02 AM
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I love your name.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:00 AM
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Male nurses are increasing in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:58 AM
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Guess you should stop whining about all the costs it takes for society to raise those kids then, huh? Be sure to tell your boy u/Heavy-Appeal4441 that maybe women's tradtional work is valuable. (sorry wrong tag)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:47 AM
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They don't. That's why the birthrate is dropping
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:46 AM
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Yes they would. Scratch the surface and that is what we see.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:45 AM
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"Yes, you cannot. What you can do however is making society more fair. Get rid of DEI program, social welfare programs, food stamps, affordable housing etc. Make women participate fairly in all the hard, laborious, back breaking jobs." DEI benefits men too muchacho. Minority men, veterans, disabled men. And men also benefit with affirmative action into college. Oops! https://feed.georgetown.edu/access-affordability/anti-dei-policies-a-threat-to-colleges-recruitment-of-male-applicants/ And sure, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:44 AM
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Norah did not kill herself for being a man. She unalived herself 14 years after publishing the book self-made man. Oddly, female to male transitioning people have better mental health once having done so - or so the studies so far reveal. And detransitioning, which you would expect if it was so depressing to be a man, is not that common. In fact a transman is less likely to detransition back to a woman. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9516050/ To sex. Sex/intimacy is important, so I am …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:39 AM
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I think it does adapt somewhat on the wrapper. This is what I mean - some things are close to universal for men and women. A hourglass figure (how fat may differ - a big fat woman can still have an hourglass figure), thick hair, clear skin, regular face and youth seems to be universal for men. For women, youth also matters (think vigorous), height, the triangle shape (broad shoulders tapering to a narrower waist). BUT how that is wrapped up? So for a man, that triangle can be more narrow and tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:38 PM
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Men are more interested in sex, not romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:40 PM
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Why, that's what the guy said.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:38 PM
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female surgeons are better than male surgeons. Cry about it. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38726676/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:54 PM
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Liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:53 PM
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Do you believe that all the misogyny will improve misandry? After all, we've only had centuries. I mean, here is the thing, you know what I think is driving this? The constant rape and sex scandals - the abuse of kids by boyscouts, the Catholic Church scandal, Me too, the Southern Baptist scandal. Kanakuk (a Christian camp) Scandal after scandal of men - including very religious very moral men - abusing women and children for years as other men covered up for it. You can't just pretend it's a on…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:52 PM
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LOL No dear, that's why we have shit about "cat ladies"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:47 PM
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No it doesn't. Stop sucking down manosphere glop from angry men. Studies that show women are judged more harshly than men based on looks: https://www.bizjournals.com/bizwomen/news/latest-news/2023/03/women-bosses-still-judged-more-on-their-looks-than.html https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4011637/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:42 PM
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I'm sure you'll be deeply insulted when I say you have a heart of gold. If you spend your life reading in the ugliest interpretation of things, then don't be surprised to find yourself in hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:41 PM
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https://www.americanbar.org/groups/domestic_violence/Initiatives/five-for-five/lgbtqi-myths/ Actually no. The problem is that you assume that lesbians have only ever dated lesbians. Twsh.org needs to update their info.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:39 PM
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This should help you since you seemed to miss a few English classes: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/metaphor
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:35 PM
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I'm not going to play this game of thongs and shit. It used to be a thing when I was young for women to wear lowrider and show thongs. Me, I've told my girls to cover their ass and their boobs and to dress for the location. And usually by teen years, they understand due to unpleasant brushes with men. But here is the thing, you've got to be careful about this stuff because there is NOTHING objective about it. Here in the US nude beaches are very shocking. In Europe, going topless at a beach is f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:13 PM
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I didn't make the no true Scotsman argument. Learn what that is. I instead raised the significant likelihood that your grandmother didn't share all of her experiences. My daughters don't know about the times I've been sexually assaulted or the boy that masterbated on me when I was in kindergarten. My mother hid the fact that she was forced to marry my father after he knocked her up in the days before abortion was legal. They had a miserable marriage. We learned by consulting the marriage certifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:06 PM
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I grew up and still live in the Deep South. I beg to differ. And I doubt your grandma told you about bad experiences either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:45 PM
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It doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:44 PM
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My mom remembers them with horror.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:43 PM
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No it's against women because those anti-abortion states sure don't mind IVF
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:43 PM
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You'll never tell your daughter to watch out around strange men, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:42 PM
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Still is. See Pope.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:41 PM
3

Misogyny is everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:41 PM
1

Men are not judged more harshly based on looks than women. There have been studies to this effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:31 PM
1

you all keep equating sex with a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:29 PM
1

There are seriously some men in this sub who believe women should be grateful for being used for sex by a man until something better comes along for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:29 PM
1

I like my mom-in-law. I liked my dad-n-law while alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:28 PM
1

I adore archery
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:27 PM
1

widows and divorcees are normal women and quite common.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:26 PM
2

It is not a shift in the Overton window. the shift in the Overton window is recognizing that single women could be happy alone without a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:25 PM
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IMPOSSIBLE!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:24 PM
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Divorce yes, domestic violence no. And depression is high in all LGTBQ communities whether gay, lesbian, or bisexual because it's hard to be a minority treated as an abomination. Doesn't change the fact that there is a significant subset of women who are fulfilled without men in their lives. I'd add divorcees and widows to that as well. They aren't nearly as interested as men are in getting remarried.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:24 PM
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"A lot of noncommittal/ not serious men. They want all the relationship benefits without wanting to commit and not taking it seriously." They want wife benefits on a boyfriend salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:21 PM
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I'm married now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:20 PM
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oooh get a glow up. It will make you feel so much better
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:19 PM
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Yes, this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:01 PM
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"Sometimes it’s difficult to differentiate between men who want casual vs serious." Very difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:00 PM
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Yah this sentiment is why I always went for low pressure first meet ups and had my own car. I did that through many dates. No way am I dealing with a man that thinks he can buy sex by pulling out a chair.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:59 PM
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"We also see all these reports of women just freely having sex with all these other men all over the place." Stop believing that crap. It isn't true. "This latest brand of Feminism has to stop. It is encouraging women to become sluts and whores, and to have as much sex possible with as many men as possible. But, we all know that it's only the top twenty percent of men who are having this sex. That makes other men think that not only is it okay to take such brash actions, but that it's what she w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:58 PM
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The first time on the dating market as a late teen, early 20 year old, I was terrified of being used for sex. I watched college friends go to parties and be assaulted. One frat liked to do rodeos - convince women to have sex like in the frat boy's room - and then his guy friends rush in to time how long. until she kicks him off. The idea that I'd stupidly believe some boy spouting kindness and joy only to find out he lied just to get sex, make fun of me, and walk on. This is why I laugh when men…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:54 PM
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With all due respect to both of you, I think you are missing each other in the fog and actually agree. First, you both agree that women should be careful of men and take precautions. That analogy of the stray dog u/pie-mart is dead on and excellent. Second, the disconnect appears to be this: women will regularly say on this sub (I am one) that we will treat every strange man as a risk and a danger until proven otherwise. We are regularly accused of bigotry and prejudice if we do so akin to racis…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:45 PM
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"When one woman agrees with my pre-conceived notions, she's telling the truth, but all other women are lying." A woman cannot be fully fulfilled without a man in her life. That's just the God's honest truth. - > lesbians would like a word.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:00 PM
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No one is being obtuse. Just because people disagree with you doesn't mean we are lying. She is bisexual. She dates women and men. You keep assuming she places different standards on men than women she dates in a relationship. Why would she?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:55 PM
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She's dating a woman. Her expectations are a relationship, same as with a man she'd be dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:39 PM
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Like this Sonia
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:37 PM
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I saw that. I cannot believe he did that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:34 PM
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Women aren't trying to shame men into relationships. You've got that reversed, boyo.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:23 PM
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Men are all useless. Now, go to your corner and self reflect on that. If you don't, that means you are immature and refuse to accept accountability. Go on, I'm waiting. Show me how much more mature men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:22 PM
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Why should I take accountability for the gripes of some random man? I didn't do anything to him? He doesn't know if I am "hard work" or not. He has no idea how I live my life, who I am dating, whether I am interested in a relationship with a man? If I'm lesbian, why should I care if men think women are hard work? I only care what women think. In addition I only care what other lesbians who might or want to date me think. To narrow it down further, I only care about what the lesbians I want to da…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:20 PM
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Seriously. They think we should twist ourselves in knots over a random man on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:17 PM
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That's a lot of anger, and no I don't reflect when someone says that a man at work is hard work, And that's a lot of lack of self awareness. So if you don't care if someone says that men are hard word, why exactly should I care if some man says women are hard work. but I do reflect when people say that men on general are hard work and look at myself to see what I can do. This contradicts your first statement - so which is it? Do you or do you not reflect when someone says "men are hard work." An…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:15 PM
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More insults and ugly ad hominem. Just concede. You got cooked. You want to claim the standards should be different between men and women and didn't like that being applied to you. That's why you can only respond by calling me stupid and telling me men use me. My "mindset" resulted in two marriages. The first six years, that I walked out of (my choice not his). The second is still going strong. So, go on, tell me how I was used by men who refused to commit to me...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:53 PM
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I googled. Those are bicycle shorts. Put a long t over it, and it's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:45 PM
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This is really sad. I usually really agree with your takes - and I know I've encouraged my girls to think how they dress in how they present themselves to the world, but I don't make them feel bad for going to the grocery store in a pair of shorts or leggings. I would also encourage boys if I had them to think how they dress, too. Dress for the job you want. Dress neatly and nicely. Dress is a form of communication. All of this I have said. But I don't give them shit for wearing halter tops to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:44 PM
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It's simple - whatever women do is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:40 PM
2

She still had to say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:39 PM
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LOL. Yah, no response huh? Just insults? I accept your concession.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:37 PM
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You are right, women are not the same as men. Women cheat less Women don't like casual sex nearly as much as men. Women are far picker and won't take sex just because it's offered. Women are less visually motivated than men. >>>"Women aren't approaching men, so its likely negligible whether or not he stops trying to look good." But he is far more likely to cheat if approached - that's what you all tell us every day. So that means that it is MEN who should be kept locked up and away from women be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:35 PM
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You are right, women are not the same as men. Women cheat less Women don't like casual sex nearly as much as men. Women are far picker and won't take sex just because it's offered. Women are less visually motivated than men. So that means that it is MEN who should be kept locked up and away from women because after all "men are only as faithful as their options" and as redpill loves to tell women, we can't expect men to be loyal if he's a high value man. So it's men who should be barred from soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:33 PM
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I think we are probably talking past each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:48 AM
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Did I say you should accept it either? No one gets to be a jackass - men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:36 AM
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And men do it too. Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:32 AM
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"If a woman says men are too much work she is fine and praised for wanting to live life single" You think men praise her for being single? LMAO. Where? THye call her cat lady, fat, ugly, unable to score a man, delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:28 AM
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Really, do you take it seriously when some woman claims men are too much work? Do you decide to go into counseling or start navel gazing because some woman bitched that some man is too much work? Do you go to gender deconstruction or gender college classes to unpack the patriarchy? Of course not. Here's the deal. Men have always been bitching at random women about how they need to change. Post a pic on social media and men swoop in to tell strangers they need to lose weight, smile more, smile le…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:25 AM
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You think men don't have mood swings? LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:14 AM
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Sorry about that. Maybe get some counseling and see if your picker is broken. And yes, I'd say the same to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:12 AM
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So all men need to stop going to gym, wearing nicely tailored clothes, and definitely no muscle shirts. And forget any more competitions like ironman. Oh, and immediately quit his good job and take one at McDonalds. No boys trips of course and no trips to the bar. After all, those things are attractive to women and someone might be tempted.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:11 AM
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Men regularly discount self-reports by women of misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:36 PM
2

It certainly is. "Cat lady" "Wall." etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:15 PM
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So all woman haters should have lost the power to vote, hmmm?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:09 PM
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And then she poisons his food. Many such cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:31 PM
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this. This this this. In my family, the men are the cooks (although I can too). My brother cooks rings around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:29 PM
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This has got to be a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:28 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:27 PM
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I'm not strawmanning anything. I am pointing out that the guys here who claim that a woman need only be hot are historical aberrations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:25 PM
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Upvote for the Roman Stoics.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:22 PM
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If you are in your 20s sure. But if you aren't, sounds like you are at settling age.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:14 PM
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Good, giving, and game. The first time with my now husband, we didn't even get to penetration. But he was willing to do all sorts of things with his fingers and it was all about me. I was pretty eager to keep jumping in bed after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:12 PM
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Usually the first time isn't great because he doesn't know how to play with the equipment. I've known one man who knew from the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:10 PM
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Why would I risk pregnancy and deal with the mess if I have to finish myself off. I'll just go finish myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:07 PM
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So real, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:06 PM
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So fucking real.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:06 PM
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This is absolutely normal. I've given far more blow jobs than the reverse. For me it's fine. I don't like being eaten out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:05 PM
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Nah, you are missing out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:04 PM
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Your mom is not normal but hilarious. My mom was awesome in one respect - she never lied, she told me early what the deal was with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:03 PM
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My brother asked me obliquely about this since my first is getting ready to fly the coop and my second is in ninth grade. I told my husband and we laughed. We'll stick together for sure. But I think he might be having some marital issues. And damned, I really like his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:41 PM
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Yep. It sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:39 PM
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Hail Mary? I thought it was pretty good!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:39 PM
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Gotcha. Not something I ever got into with the hub, but hey tomorrow is another day.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:33 PM
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You should pass that on to him. Maybe then he will start showing compassion to people instead of taking malicious joy that a woman got hurt for the terrible mistake of not choosing him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:32 PM
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Man, if that's what floats your boat but....
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:31 PM
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LMAO I am probably over reacting to this. I'm actually aware of the steps used to prepare for anal sex. One of the benefits of listening to the savage love podcast back in the day, I've just had some very very bad experiences with anal sex and so I get really fucking defensive over it being pushed. But you are entirely correct. People do work into it and do train the anus and some people - men and women - do enjoy it, and good on them. Why not as long as everyone is having fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:31 PM
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You are absolutely dope as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:29 PM
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That choice ended up being very bad for me. That's why mine is an ex, but hey lady so glad it is working for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:28 PM
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Its this. They want women to prove their love or attraction by letting a man hurt her or do things she doesn't like or isn't comfortable with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:25 PM
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Right? Ding ding ding
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:21 PM
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I know, but enjoy it. He's revealing why all these nice guys aren't nice or moral. They are seething with rage and anger at women in general. Nothing nice and nothing moral about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:21 PM
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Here you are, trashing a woman who likely was young and had no idea that her ex would be the type who tried to slip it in, lashing out at a stranger viciously, all because you are angry that women won't pick you. I bet you claim you are a "nice guy" too. "Nice guys" like you always out themselves by your behavior. Not the least nice. Not the least moral. Someone MORAL with a tiny bit of empathy, compassion, or the ability to put themselves in someone else's shoes would say, "god that sucks" and …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:20 PM
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For dudes I think more than women - bc the prostate right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:12 PM
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Fair. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:11 PM
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Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:11 PM
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Some gay men don't like anal sex too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:11 PM
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Aw, I live in Georgia. Savannah is such a gem. Try Savannah Honey if you haven't. They have lemon honey that is crack.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:04 PM
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"Because I’m trying to point out one kind of “ick” judgment that women make." The ick judgment of a single woman is not the same as a society wide issue. Are you going to address my point, which is a society wide and culturally enforced pattern that shows up here often where men obsess about women's sexual promiscuity while actively seeking to damage those women's "value" for their own selfish desires? Or are you going to continue to avoid the issue by talking about the irrelevant action of a si…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:02 PM
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No, it is men who think it should be like the sixties where someone could have house, a wife, a retirement account, and a car on one middle class salary. To the extent that men think they should ignore what a woman does and only care if she's hot, it is borne from the post WW2 boom.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:58 PM
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Congratulations, now you understand why I said we can't take men at their word that they want to be married and have kids more than women. Feel free to google "revealed preferences" to learn more.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:55 PM
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NO. Stop this idea that if it was just done right everyone would like it. Some people do. Some don't. I've had kids naturally. Every woman here knows what I am talking about. I am never going to have anal sex comfortably.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:43 PM
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Damn, me too to a perfect T.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:42 PM
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Yes, men are beasts without control of their own bodies. I think they should be kept caged up since they are such slaves to their dicks. Obviously, they have no self control.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:41 PM
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Nice failed attempt at whataboutism/bothsides.... "I see posts from women on social media where women actually say that a body count of one is the worst thing for a man, because it means that he is still focused on his ex rather than her." Sure, that's why we have an entire zygeist of women rejecting men who have an n-count of 1. Look at that weekly mod-post of women rejecting men that have had one serious prior relationship! Hell there are entire subs devoted to that! Oh wait there isn't! Becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:28 PM
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That's what they say. We'll see if revealed preferences confirm that. A lot of men here will claim they will take anyone but then when you press them, you realize they won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:19 PM
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Yes, we know you are espousing hypocritical, illogical and irrational views (the only way for every woman to be a virgin at marriage is if every man is also a virgin at marriage). If virginity at marriage is important for society, then I guess you better zip up your pants. The truth is, men are just selfish and completely self-involved. They mistake their personal feelings for "the good of society", but women know this is pure disingenuous bullshit. I'm sure you tell these girls you are dating t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:18 PM
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Gotcha, appreciate it. Sometimes it's easy to jump to conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:13 PM
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It took me a while to really crystalize it into words. I finally got there in the TLDR.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:11 PM
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For you, sounds like. Which rock it! Too many orgasms for me cross over into pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:10 PM
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Not care, continue fucking him (I got to work late this morning because of it!), enjoy the jewelry he heaps on me, enjoy the Miata he just bought me, bask in his love, bake him bread, hand over my pay check so he can continue his financial wizardry, look forward to our trip to Italy. It's a terrible life ..../s
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:08 PM
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"And yet men who can afford to marry can't find a wife. There are more men who want to marry than women." I question the evidentiary foundation of this. There are guys here who insist it's only women who press for marriage and that they and their guy friends aren't the least interested in it. That's been quite consistent in my view. I find men don't get that anxious to get married until they hit the 30-35 range. It certainly is mainly women posting in the "waiting to wed" sub, but that's hardly …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:05 PM
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Fertility rates =/= marriages/LTRs. Three of my six closest cousins married but decided they didn't want kids. They are dinks. I am the high water mark with two kids. My two closest childhood friends are married (first marriages) and they have one and two kids respectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:01 PM
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pretty interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:00 PM
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My husband would disagree. For every woman who finds someone online that's a man who did as well. And once you are out of school/college, the internet offers the best opportunity to find someone (man or woman) often.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:59 PM
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I skimmed it and most of it is just eco-pop bullshit without any historical knowledge of family formation, but this? This sums it up with one adjustment: "men and women always want to marry up (in terms of looks AND wealth) as much as possible, and as semi-rational actors, they are only limited by their options." It was only the very rich or the weird post-ww2 world where most men had sufficient money themselves to just "buy" the prettiest girl out there without any consideration of her dowery, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:58 PM
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God this NAILS it - like a 2D canvas.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:45 PM
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"Some men will avoid virgins because they know she will be all intense and crazy (whether true or not)" I didn't say you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:42 PM
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"Nah there are many choices, but the best one is the first one for society." really? So you are a virgin saving yourself for marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:40 PM
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Some men will avoid virgins because they know she will be all intense and crazy (whether true or not)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:40 PM
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"And all men want virgins to marry." LMAO. No they don't. And don't tell me I don't know. I'm the one here actually married.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:39 PM
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They literally don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:38 PM
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This is why I think women should ignore men and do what's good for women. The second a man pressures you over sex, bye. The second a man starts talking about virginity or low in counts, but isn't saving himself for a committed relationship before fucking (and you will know), out the door. The only man you want is a man that sees women as HUMAN. Btw, this doesn't mean that men (and women) can't care about promiscuity, but it does mean that he has to practice what he preaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:37 PM
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Because it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:34 PM
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After all, we can't hold MEN responsible, can we. God forbid that they say to themselves "I want casual sex, maybe I shouldn't be a fucking hypocrite in expecting women to forego casual sex!" Be the change you want in the world. Or deal with women also having sexual partners, and if you don't like it, stay lonely forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:34 PM
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It's simple u/Downtown_Cat_1745 - too many men here don't see women as people but only as utilities for their sexual pleasure and utility as "wife" or "girlfriend". It's kind of hilarious considering how much they claim that only "men" can love or are romantic. These guys never actually grown up, no matter their age, and cannot engage in the theory of the mind - put themselves in the shoes of women. If they could, they'd recognize that their demands are utterly contradictory and self defeating a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:32 PM
1

Take a little MJ before you have sex the next time if it is legal where you are. Seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:07 PM
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Being multiorgasmic is a super power. I almost always have at least one and usually several during sex. Not 25 tho!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:06 PM
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"women will fuck a man because hes 6'4 and attractive before they even know anything about him." Many women aren't into casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:23 AM
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Oh men claim looks don't matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:23 AM
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