TheCradle Archive

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1	CMV: Most feminists at some level do hate men Thank you for taking the time to question my own political and philosophical beliefs, instead of giving me the same run around I always get in these types of discussions. but it's a widely shared anecdote Yes, just as it's a widely shared anecdote that some Christians want to impose their religious beliefs on people. You're not the only one, I'm just arguing that I can't stand here in place of everyone. I am one person, not the spokesperson for an entire philosophical movement. I am fine with fi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/17 04:15 PM
1	CMV: Most feminists at some level do hate men I'm sorry, but in my experience, Anecdotal information can only go so far. I can also tell you that in my experience, certain brands of feminism believe that my family members are gender traitors (TERFS), certain brands of feminism believe women can't make their own choices (Anti-choice feminism), and certain brands of Feminism think being fat is the new frontier of oppression (HAES). Feminism is large. It's full of different opinions, different definitions of oppression, different goals and obs…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/17 02:45 PM
1	What's a negative emotion that is holding you back from being in a long term relationship? There's no shame in asking for help. Therapy is a tool like anything other. I liken mental health to any other physical problem, like a broken ankle. No one expects you to walk around without a cast if you broke your ankle, so why do we ask mentally unwell people to pretend they're okay? I hope you have success in your journey.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/17 02:25 PM
1	What's a negative emotion that is holding you back from being in a long term relationship? Introspection. A lot of examining my own feelings and figuring out why my behavior was so self-destructive. I figured out that I hated myself because I didn't feel like I had ownership of my life. My parents controlled me to an unhealthy degree. I had to start doing things that made them upset and sit with that feeling until it gave me panic attacks. I thought I would die. I gave modern medicine a chance (my parents were holistic and didn't believe in mental health). I took anxiety medication fo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/17 03:37 PM
1	CMV: Men Going To A Brothel, Shouldn't Be Viewed As Any Worse Than Women Going To A Sperm Bank No one uses a sperm bank because they couldn't get Chad. Edit: Compassion. Do you have any?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/17 05:22 PM
2	CMV: Men Going To A Brothel, Shouldn't Be Viewed As Any Worse Than Women Going To A Sperm Bank Many struggling women with fertility problems or lesbian couples use sperm banks for the express purpose of starting a family. These people are usually married couples. Single moms are not exactly the norm here. This is because IVF is prohibitively expensive. One cycle can run you $12k, then another $5k for every cycle thereafter. Furthermore, it's incredibly risky. From the meds, to the tests, and the surgical procedures, it's not like just any welfare queen can waltz in and order up a baby wit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/17 05:17 PM
1	What's a negative emotion that is holding you back from being in a long term relationship? Before I figured it out and got my shit together, it was my horrific self-esteem and commitment issues. For a very long time the thought of anyone being romantically or sexually interested in me terrified me to my core. I grew up in an abusive environment that shaped my view of relationships negatively. It was a lot of patience and hard work to overcome, but I'm glad my SO stuck by me even after I broke it off 3 separate times because of cold feet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/17 05:07 PM
1	CMV: Most feminists at some level do hate men You're unpacking a lot of very complicated issues and hand waiving them away in favor of a feminist conspiracy of your own creation. I don't actually care if Asian women and white men get together. That's not the point. I'm not even arguing against interracial couples, which you seem to be insinuating. The comment I replied to was this: "If men didn't respect femininity I don't think Asian women would be so popular on dating sites" Associating femininity, on mass, as a thing Asian women 'natural…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/17 04:48 PM
1	CMV: Most feminists at some level do hate men I personally don't view men and women as having any special intrinsic behaviors that belong to only men or only women. There is an innate gender, and it does inform your body and mind, however the roles we play are guided by social conventions and traditions present in society that date back to antiquity. This is how we can have such a diversity of gender expression that includes feminine men and masculine women. With this in mind, I do believe that one day we can free more men and women from th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/17 04:13 PM
1	CMV: Most feminists at some level do hate men Right, we're all free to have our own opinions. I don't want to proselytize anyone. For me, feminism has shaped my world in positive ways. I gained a new found understanding of the struggles of women and men from all walks of life and it's helped me cultivate empathy and critical thinking. I think a gender revolution needed to happen for humanity. After the agricultural revolution set women as the property of men for centuries to come, it was necessary that women and their allies stepped up to d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/17 03:23 PM
2	CMV: Most feminists at some level do hate men Whitewashing prejudice and inequality hurts a lot of people. I agree. We have to take into consideration that Feminism is a movement, subject to the same ills and transgressions of other movements. Whenever any large number of people come together, ideas change and the movement itself is affected. Suffragettes, women's lib, and 3rd wave weren't messiah's sent from God. People penned down their thoughts, whether crude or philosophical, and it was collected and studied for its various merits. The …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/17 01:47 PM
2	CMV: Most feminists at some level do hate men We've come full circle and completely agree with one another. 😄 Cheers!	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/17 09:08 AM
3	CMV: Most feminists at some level do hate men I agree with you. You're allowed to have sexual preferences. Whether or not her sexual preferences have anything to do with a lack of self awareness is neither here nor there. I don't know her. The only thing we disagree on is that I belive a person can both dislike catcalling and lewd gendered insults in a public setting yet become turned on by them in a private sexual context.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/17 08:45 AM
2	CMV: Most feminists at some level do hate men There's nothing wrong with liking particular features about a specific race. However, the subject of fetishism goes beyond attraction and involves naive and ignorant assumptions about a person's race or ethnicity that can become a caricature of their real culture. White men in particular get a bad rap because of the rampant sex tourism in South East Asia and the mail ordered bride phenomenon. After the women's liberation of the 70s, many men declared American women to be brutish, masculine, and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/17 08:37 AM
3	CMV: Most feminists at some level do hate men Consensual means both parties agree beforehand. There's nothing more simple then establishing consent. Literally just ask. There is no practical reason for assuming your partner's preferences, especially if you just met them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/17 08:23 AM
1	CMV: Most feminists at some level do hate men Feminism relies on examining inequities in society and asking questions as to why things are like this, with the caveat that nature and nurture both play a role. The critical question is, what are we doing to encourage men and women to pursue or not pursue certain career or lifestyle choices. If all societal influence were to disappear and have never existed, would the distributions be the same? This question is not an easy one to answer because society shapes all of us to our core. The problem …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/17 07:48 AM
1	CMV: Most feminists at some level do hate men Your argument is nonsensical. Feminists invented a sociological phenomenon discussed in academia to prevent female competition? Female competition of what?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/17 07:38 AM
1	Q4RP: Do you respect femininity? Agreed!	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/17 07:18 AM
1	Q4RP: Do you respect femininity? That's interesting. I read a lot of about submissive/dominant BDSM type things, so to me being submissive is entrusting your rights, desires, and yourself to your partner as you've allowed them to guide you. It describes an all encompassing level of trust.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/17 07:06 AM
0	What do you think about males feeling like they deserve sex? there does seem to be a notion in feminist circles that a man even thinking that he in some way is owed a girlfriend, is a grave offense, and attack such people mercilessly. I believe this is because it comes across as willfully entitled. To expect to be owed anything, much less another human being's companionship, is bizarre to me. You can want that for yourself very badly, but to feel you're owed is all together in a different camp. I feel like this falls into the just world fallacy argument. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/17 06:58 AM
1	Q4RP: Do you respect femininity? Isn't respect a good enough word for what you're describing? Submission implies a level of deference that one would usually reserve for a religious figure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/17 06:52 AM
1	How much of female mating psychology is wanting to be made useful by a man who includes her security in his plans? That sounds normal. What do you think of the show so far?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/17 06:47 AM
2	CMV: Most feminists at some level do hate men I forgot feminist theory was bunk here. I'm not referring to people who are merely attracted to features common in a particular race. You certainly weren't either: "If men didn't respect femininity I don't think Asian women would be so popular" There's nothing inherently feminine about the appearance of Asian women. A person with "Asian fever" is reacting to Asian women's perceived submissive qualities and their assumed traditional outlook on gender roles.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/17 06:45 AM
4	How much of female mating psychology is wanting to be made useful by a man who includes her security in his plans? There's merit to this. I diagree that it's a gendered phenomenon, though. Social animals like us will subconsciously or consciously seek to make ourselves useful for security. Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs makes security second only to food and water. Of course we'll do anything in our power to secure safety from the people around us, whether that be our spouse or community.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/17 06:32 AM
8	Q4BP: Blue-Pillers of PPD, is anything in the TRP sidebar actually useful in your opinion? If so, what? Acknowledging Reality Finally, I think our focus should always remain on ensuring that we challenge the reality we perceive and discuss precisely and objectively whether or not our beliefs line up with the testable results we can replicate. I am a firm believer that potential success can only be maximized by maximizing your knowledge of the factors surrounding your success. Keeping your eyes closed and ignoring evidence and facts will not benefit you. Opening your eyes and acknowledging everythi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/17 06:29 AM
4	CMV: Most feminists at some level do hate men Respect is hardly the word i'd use when talking about racial fetishists.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/17 06:22 AM
4	CMV: Most feminists at some level do hate men It's called consensual fantasy play. This is a gripe I have with TRP. Always so black/white. What if rape play turned you on? Does that mean you personally want to get raped by a stranger or friend? A fantasy is a fantasy you indulge in with a trusted person. The reason it's fun is because the person is indulging you in a fantasy that is otherwise completely safe and they'll stop if you want them to. An actual rapist will not stop and continue to rape you. See the difference? A catcaller isn't s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/17 06:06 AM