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DebateTheCrazedCat/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 02:16 AM
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Porn is degrading to both men and women. It's the everyday heroin towards all men and ruins both their psychological and sexual health. Potentially their physical as well. Porn is Misogyny. Porn is misandry. Quit
/r/MensRights08/07/26 03:46 AM
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"But like anyone else, they're entitled to not being assaulted." Read. You just restated.
/r/MensRights20/03/26 10:56 PM
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Women aren't entitled to protection of a man, sure. But like anyone else, they're entitled to not being assaulted.
/r/MensRights20/03/26 03:18 PM
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This post is pushing it. If she's saying ALL men then maybe? But if she's talking about patriarchy then it's kind of insinuated that it's not all men. Patriarchy is a social culture, meaning not all people, including men follow with that custom. OOP and maybe OP too need to revise some vocabulary. I'm anti feminist but the objective to this post is just lame.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/12/25 01:01 AM
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I've seen the opposite sign before at the gym. Chill out. You don't need to have a melt down every time you see a heads up that the opposite sex is in a (gender) only space.
/r/EverydayMisandry16/11/25 04:19 AM
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I wouldn't say vaguely. I'm conservative Af, not a feminist in the slightest, but I don't hang out there because it's supposed to be a sub about men's rights but ends up being a sub for guys complaining about feminism day and night, whining about how women have women only spaces in areas where there are more sexual assault cases on women. It's one thing to not agree with feminism, but it's another to whine at any solution they're given that DO NOT AFFECT MEN in the slightest (tell me how having …
/r/EverydayMisandry27/10/25 08:58 PM
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You know in Catholicism contraception is a mortal sin, right? Like, if she's an actual practicing catholic, after marriage you won't be able to have protection. Any time you do it, you're having a kid.
/r/seduction25/10/25 08:41 PM
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This I agree with. The claim is that thinking that men can't get raped, is a misogynist claim. I'm male, I was raped by a woman when I was 15 after getting drugged. I stayed silent about this for a bit of time and when I opened up, the girls in my life were the ones telling me to go to the police, therapy. The men in my life legit chuckled saying they wish they were in my shoes, that I got lucky, "nice.". I'm not a feminist, by any means. But this I agree with personally thanks to how I was trea…
/r/EverydayMisandry16/10/25 06:03 PM
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Oh God this sub supports transgenderism
/r/EverydayMisandry06/08/25 08:01 PM
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Before the post was even up it has to go under review, and it was denied the first time for having the incorrect flair so when I changed it they permitted it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 03:08 AM
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This is really pushing it. Y'all fall way too easily for rage bait @~@
/r/EverydayMisandry27/05/25 02:11 PM
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People still use this app?
/r/seduction13/03/25 09:37 PM
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I mean, some of the comments are valid. The same way how some men want to wait till marriage such as myself, there's women who want to do the same.
/r/EverydayMisandry28/10/24 11:48 PM
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So don't talk to "Modern women". There's many women who appreciate a compliment if you know where to look. Find more traditional women, don't just not to compliment them altogether lol
/r/EverydayMisandry02/09/24 12:06 PM
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Well I've lived in Japan for a little bit, & Ive lived in Colombia for most of my life. In countries where sexual assault on women is spoken of but never addressed, it makes sense if there's just one for the issue. I'm saying this as someone who's been taken advantage of by a woman, & not really for feminism, you guys are really starting to look like the folks over at r/MensRights aka straight up cry babies when they see anything remotely exclusive for women. I want my own space as a man, & you …
/r/EverydayMisandry26/08/24 11:58 PM
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It's done where sexual harassment cases are more predominant. There's a reason some countries have women only trains too.
/r/EverydayMisandry24/08/24 09:28 PM
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I think this is more concern over biological makes in biological female restrooms. There is definitely a risk, which is why I'd say there should be a transgender bathroom
/r/EverydayMisandry08/07/24 02:38 PM
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Relax. The post literally insinuates that the GC was gonna be full of vile things
/r/EverydayMisandry03/04/24 03:57 PM
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Repost. Seen this everywhere
/r/MensRights21/02/24 05:57 PM
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Sometimes it happens. I once tried to swallow pills, & my body just said “Absolutely not” before vomiting them up. Tried again & the same result. After that it’s just too painful to do it lol
/r/MensRights07/06/23 12:41 PM
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Exactly lol
/r/MensRights24/04/23 06:55 PM
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This ^
/r/MensRights24/04/23 06:55 PM
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Based lol
/r/MensRights24/04/23 06:54 PM
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Well idk about Asia. I live in South America so feminism exists but it’s not rly that big of a deal here. Nobody wants to deal with the guerrillas here
/r/MensRights20/04/23 02:15 PM
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No, what continues it is the traditional values of wanting to protect women as men, something im sure Ukraine is no stranger to. Plus, with desperate time, it makes sense they would want the men fighting as men as just better fighters than women. Plain & simple
/r/MensRights20/04/23 12:36 PM
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Feminism wasn’t the ideology that historically drafted men & kept women at home to care for the kids
/r/MensRights20/04/23 12:16 PM
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Uhhh…was this passed by a woman or a man?
/r/MensRights19/04/23 11:23 PM
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Is everyone here seriously from the US
/r/MensRights19/04/23 06:13 PM
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Where are you from? Lol? In my country regardless of your gender you’ll be attacked if you dressed outta place. Tomboys & femboys alike will be attacked
/r/MensRights19/04/23 06:12 PM
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As a femboy from an extremely traditional country…THIS POST IS BULLSHIT LMAO
/r/MensRights19/04/23 01:54 PM
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You’re the reason nobody takes MRA’s seriously lmao
/r/AntiFeminists19/02/23 08:12 PM
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🤓🤓🤓 Bro. People have different kinds of humor, some will find something funny & some will find others funny. Generalizing women to be not funny is incel behavior. Do better.
/r/AntiFeminists19/02/23 08:11 PM
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Everyone is avoiding it, dude. Not just feminists. I’m here trying to avoid the freaking military service i’m almost due (Colombia)
/r/MensRights17/01/23 03:29 PM
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They are important jobs, but they’re not recognized jobs. The recognized jobs are things like programmers, doctors, teachers, all that. Men & women alike chase those jobs, not just feminists. Personally I don’t wanna have a job like that because I’m not very strong & I can’t handle that labor, that puts me on the same level of anyone else who doesn’t want those jobs; feminists included
/r/MensRights17/01/23 03:12 PM
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Men CHOOSE to take that option. There’s last resort jobs that are less hazardous than others. Women don’t take those jobs as they CHOOSE not to. Side note, we get the hazardous jobs done more efficiently anyway since these jobs need strength so that’s a flex.
/r/MensRights17/01/23 03:07 PM
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This subreddit is hilarious
/r/MensRights17/01/23 03:01 PM
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That’s a population issue then. don’t like democracy? Sorry
/r/MensRights17/01/23 03:01 PM
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How many women in the during the 1900s federally signed that women wouldn’t be drafted?
/r/MensRights17/01/23 03:00 PM
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No…yes men take up most of this work force. It’s hazardous but Pay is usually mediocre to decent & has benefits Nobody wishes to become an oil rig worker, it’s usually just something people resort to (that or trade school)
/r/MensRights17/01/23 02:59 PM
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We definitely have our ups & downs in society. We have some advantages, & some disadvantages. Male privilege exists, but so does female privilege. MRA’s & Feminists alike have a hard time admitting that.
/r/MensRights12/01/23 07:30 PM
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Just because I’m male doesn’t, repel me from what’s feminine. I mean, we as boys love feminine things in reality, as we love feminine women. I like wearing my polo shirts & flannels & all, but just because I’m a boy doesn’t mean I HAVE to be limited to that section of clothes. Originally? Through my early teenage years I was very emo & punk (still Am) & realized that the clothes of that genre for women involved many accessories & patterns that I immediately fell in love with. Trying them on for …
/r/MensRights12/01/23 07:20 PM
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In my opinion being a man is just you being a mature & caring adult male. Being a woman is being a mature & caring adult female. If you have a family that you care for & want to provide for them? You’re a man. If you’re a stay at home husband who pours his heart into caring for the kids? You’re a man. You don’t have to be big, buffed, go fishing, be lumber jack, or do any so called masculine activity’s to be a man. Being a man is knowing you were put on the earth to help others, & being a respec…
/r/MensRights12/01/23 02:43 PM
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Right.
/r/MensRights12/01/23 02:31 PM
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This subreddit is pathetic. I seriously can’t take these guys seriously
/r/MensRights12/01/23 02:30 PM
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https://youtube.com/shorts/miUq2J2BexE?feature=share Watch. You don’t remember? I’ll remind you. Can you name a few subreddits that used to cater to men but then were removed? I’m not objecting what you’re saying, it’s just I haven’t really seen it around here. I believe you, I just wanna head a few. Also, yes Trauma definitely does raise your mental endurance now doubt about it..that doesn’t mean encourage being an abusive dad? Lmao? What he says sounds so sketchy more than half the time. Yes, …
/r/MensRights06/01/23 03:11 AM
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You’re on one rn that if someone disagrees with people here, they get bombarded with downvotes & replies on how they’re wrong. This place is still active & going & it’s been here for a while. If you want women not to come on here you gotta bring that up with the mods here or make your own com with this subject that excludes women from it. Were commenting on a thread full of tate supporters. This is the guy who openly says he’s gonna treat his daughter luxuriously & traumatize his son by showing …
/r/MensRights05/01/23 10:05 PM
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Well, remember FDS is supposed to be a safe space for women talking about dating & their experiences. Don’t get me wrong, I’m absolutely disgusted on what I read there (& here) but I think the words “Safe space for women” sorta explains why it’s locked for only women to participate it. It’s not a politics subreddit, it’s a dating one. I beg to differ. Here in Colombia we don’t really have this, but I do have citizenship in the states so when I do go there I’ve seen MRAs & Feminists alike say dis…
/r/MensRights05/01/23 09:49 PM
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You can’t comment on FDS as a guy. Yea, got banned in multiple feminists subreddits, religious, & political alike because I see bs in a lot of things these days; you guys being no exception. Don’t call them Females. This is men’s rights, not males rights
/r/MensRights05/01/23 11:32 AM
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https://youtu.be/3Qb_0Vw4_t4 Side note, look at what the brothers both agree on raising their sons & daughters. They literally want to raise the daughter luxuriously & raise the son with traumas. They literally admit in one of their podcasts that they think trauma is beneficial for a man https://youtube.com/shorts/GZgtBD3oMzU?feature=share You still support this guy when he gives his kids different treatment based on their genitalia?
/r/MensRights05/01/23 11:30 AM
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You want to be a group that promotes equal rights, you can’t say there’s no reason to hate a guy who most definitely doesn’t see women equal as men. The dude also got raided twice for human trafficking concerns last year & is now detained for it, it really isn’t a good look for y’all.
/r/MensRights04/01/23 04:31 PM
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“There is no reason to hate Andrew rate” Stop giving people reason to regard this subreddit as an Incel or misogynistic subreddit
/r/MensRights04/01/23 02:37 PM
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Actually- this sounds problematic I don't support feminism at all but this sounds like this guy has trauma and wanted closure in a problematic way He needs a therapist to get the help he needs
/r/MensRights26/08/22 12:38 AM
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You could say that. Most abortions are done before the 12 week period. so it's not like we're killing that definition of a "human" anyway.
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/22 01:36 PM
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Foster care is traumatic. If mom doesn't have the money or mental health to take care, why should she? The best way to save a baby from imminent danger is to not have it at all IMO. They're not human, just a cluster of cells
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/22 01:28 PM
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These poor kids
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/22 12:01 PM
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The baby doesnt exactly have feelings, vision as their eyes are usually closed, will to live, or pain receptors. It's not the baby's fault that it's imminent foster home will probably give him trauma or that their mom wasnt In a financial or mental position to handle a child
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/22 12:00 PM
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I hate hearing "Put it for adoption" as 90 percent of kids experience trauma in the foster system It's just not fair to the kid, and it's not like they even realize that they're being aborted. Just save the trauma and don't have the kid
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/22 11:56 AM
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Lotta women use the pill, IUD, Or condoms anyway. Common argument and i agree, but it doesn't happen as frequently as some think
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/22 11:53 AM
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I'm not feminist or MRA. I'm anti on both sides but I don't really see why we should have a sah in whats to come with abortion. I think the closest thing we as men comes to that Is being able to sign that we don't want to pay Child support for a child if we're the father
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/22 11:52 AM
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Groomed*
/r/PussyPassDenied15/08/22 02:47 PM
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You guys seriously support this? This is pathetic. Men's rights isn't about saying women having it easy, men's rights is about recognizing that men and women alike have issues and need to work together to fix said issues. We both have no inherited value in anything, and we both have to face societal expectation that harm our mental health alike. Seeing so many "MRA"s agree to this make me lose hope for the future of men and women
/r/AntiFeminists14/08/22 04:48 PM
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I'm all against domestic abuse but if you cheat on your SO i think you deserve to get the shit beaten outta you. Goes both ways
/r/AntiFeminists14/08/22 04:19 PM
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Why is this here lmao
/r/AntiFeminists04/08/22 12:06 PM
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I'm agreeing with you, not antagonizing you lol
/r/AntiFeminists03/08/22 03:28 PM
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Sarcasm aside, I have a bf because he's the most handsome and caring I've ever met 🤍🤍🤍🤍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
/r/AntiFeminists03/08/22 02:39 PM
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*White man
/r/AntiFeminists03/08/22 02:32 PM
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She's a he. Sorry to break it to you
/r/AntiFeminists03/08/22 02:31 PM
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Advocating for "roles" literally just makes you a misogynist lmao. I'm not a feminist and even i know this
/r/AntiFeminists03/08/22 02:31 PM
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Beautifully said.
/r/AntiFeminists03/08/22 02:27 PM
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These people are so stupid fr
/r/AntiFeminists03/08/22 02:25 PM
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Thank you. 🤍
/r/AntiFeminists03/08/22 02:25 PM
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Kinda pathetic people supported this post
/r/AntiFeminists03/08/22 02:23 PM
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If this was true then I wouldn't be male with a boyfriend LMAO
/r/AntiFeminists03/08/22 09:22 AM
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It's pathetic
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 09:27 PM
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I'm a guy with a boyfriend not a 31 year old lunatic on female dating strategy lmao
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 04:40 PM
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Your definition of an incel is a man who wants to divorce
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 04:35 PM
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What point is there to make? It's an incel subreddit with a incel post and many agree. I'm here to waste your time and get you worked up, so while you lie to me saying you're not I'm just gonna say thanks for the rant and laugh Cya lmao
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 04:21 PM
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Congrats, let's hope your kids realize the stupidity behind closed doors
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 04:12 PM
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If you think I'm stupid enough to believe incels can be changed with a simple reddit comment then you have a long way ahead of you. I feel bad for you guys as many can't understand morality or logic if it was shot in the head to you by an AR
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 04:12 PM
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Classic lonely behavior
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 04:09 PM
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This is an Intel subreddit the same way FDS is full of Femcels. Luckily not all men and women are like this as my BF thinks like I do
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 04:05 PM
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Dk how deep you had to reach to pull that theory outta your ass but alright. I could care less about women judging that i have a boyfriend. I'm just here for controversy
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 04:02 PM
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Good to know.
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 03:59 PM
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How about you come back when you realize your maturity will go up when you lose the stuck up mindset and stop supporting random keyboard warriors pretending to me women lmao
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 03:58 PM
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Inconsistent grammar flaws. Where one point in grammar is correct but the other same scenario isn't. Also many Japanese wives take more charge and aren't as submissive than the media portrays them
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 03:29 PM
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She is a he lmao
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 03:20 PM
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Fake af
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 03:20 PM
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Fake
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 03:20 PM
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Man*
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 03:20 PM
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She is a he lmao
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 03:19 PM
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She is actually a he, this was definitely written by a guy
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 03:19 PM
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You're an idiot, this clearly wasn't written by a man
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 03:14 PM
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This isn't real, it was written by an incel
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 03:13 PM
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Holy shit this place is turning into an incel subreddit. The inconsistent grammar mistakes just bluntly show that it was written like that on purpose. I wanna bet my wage coming in 2 days that this wasn't written by japanese woman and was written by an incel in his basement because he's seeing everyone side with a woman who probably went though something. There's a difference between fighting for men's rights and being a self righteous incel, guys. If You actually believe this post then you dese…
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 03:13 PM
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This is an incel like post. This doesn't help the cause at all. Do better
/r/AntiFeminists28/07/22 12:30 PM
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Wow, i guess that time when i was 12 and a girl accused me of groping her even though I was away from her is irrelevant Or that time in 9th grade when a girl kept trying to hit me and the guards only surrounded her saying "ok ok get off him" and when she got too close to my face i finally hit her back and then the guards finally separated us and i got suspended. Guess non of that mattered. If you're a guy and a feminist you're just a simp, like holy
/r/AntiFeminists27/07/22 03:39 PM
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You can still be a liberal if you're the chil o conservative parents
/r/AntiFeminists12/07/22 02:50 PM
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A conservative mother and father can still have a liberal teen or adult, it's up to the child what they believe. Im no liberal but saying "great less feminists in the future" or things like that is stupid
/r/AntiFeminists12/07/22 02:49 PM
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Whats weak about not wanting kids? No money spent on daycare, medicine, diapers, extra food, toys. I get to sleep normally, enjoy my income more. Seems like a win for me.
/r/AntiFeminists12/07/22 02:48 PM
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I do it because children are shit
/r/AntiFeminists12/07/22 02:46 PM
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🤍🤍
/r/MensRights12/07/22 12:22 AM
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Raised in a Colombian household Ik how to clean, like thoroughly. I was raised to be a maid by accident LOL but I like it. I would definitely be a stay at home husband as I already know how to cook and clean
/r/MensRights11/07/22 11:11 PM
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I just don't have any interest cuz of cost
/r/MensRights10/07/22 05:58 PM
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No periods, my neutral voice (it's not that deep), and for some reason the mix of my masculinity and me dressing feminine just feels amazing
/r/MensRights09/07/22 11:53 AM
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Tf lol
/r/MensRights07/07/22 03:59 PM
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Lol ok
/r/MensRights05/07/22 01:12 AM
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Can happen to anyone, for me it’s not about how many people actually getting one; it’s just how shitty one feels and that you can help yourself from getting one. It doesn’t prevent you from getting one, it’s just something that helps and to me that’s a good reason
/r/MensRights05/07/22 12:52 AM
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Made my life a lot more comfortable tbh. Less to work with, I can feel pleasure just fine, easier to clean, no chance of phimosis, lowered chance of UTIs. I’m good
/r/MensRights05/07/22 12:44 AM
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Because they’re bored and wanna act like a victim lmao
/r/MensRights05/07/22 12:41 AM
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The recovery time doesn’t seem worth it to do at a later age. Just get on with it at birth IMO
/r/MensRights05/07/22 12:34 AM
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I don't know man, i kinda support this because forced marriage isn't an uncommon thing there. It's really bad for women in these countries
/r/AntiFeminists04/07/22 01:02 AM
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I've never heard a woman say that.
/r/AntiFeminists05/06/22 03:39 PM
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🤍
/r/AntiFeminists27/05/22 04:11 PM
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I knew because you were being rational. I like you.
/r/AntiFeminists27/05/22 04:08 PM
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Am I talking to a centrist?
/r/AntiFeminists27/05/22 04:06 PM
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I don’t support feminism or men’s rights advocacy. Both have extreme holes that make both sound idiotic. I can advocate for equal rights without a title
/r/AntiFeminists27/05/22 04:05 PM
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Tell me about it, for once feminists will be right about judging us, posts like these make us sound like incels
/r/AntiFeminists27/05/22 04:01 PM
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Children are the hell point to my life. I just want a partner to live out my years with, child free
/r/AntiFeminists27/05/22 04:00 PM
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Don’t take this advice. My ex girlfriend had red highlights and she was a wonderful person and wasn’t a crazy liberal either. We went our separate ways respectfully because we wanted different goals in life.
/r/AntiFeminists27/05/22 03:59 PM
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That isn’t equality, I don’t support feminism but your views are what women push away from because the definition of ‘Femininity’ creates unfair double standards for women. Biological roles create unfair double standards for men and women.
/r/AntiFeminists27/05/22 03:58 PM
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You had that coming, sorry
/r/AntiFeminists26/05/22 04:54 PM
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Honestly I don’t rly see the bad of this if it would apply to both genders. I wouldn’t wanna service someone who looked crazy and was gonna freak
/r/AntiFeminists20/05/22 07:59 PM
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Funny enough, he did tell me about some threatment he did before getting his foreskin removed. Guess he was just unlucky
/r/MensRights27/04/22 02:40 AM
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I mean I'm circumsized and my uncle wasn't and he got phimosis. Ngl I'm glad I avoided that, that's just me though.
/r/MensRights27/04/22 12:52 AM
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Same, I got banned from there too cuz of this. That’s ridiculous
/r/AntiFeminists15/03/22 12:45 PM
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So make a post urself, don’t shun on people who try to help too. It’s counterproductive and it makes you look bad.
/r/AntiFeminists07/03/22 01:15 PM
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What we as people wear is non of your concern as long as it’s not anything crazy like indecent exposure.
/r/AntiFeminists07/03/22 12:44 AM
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Guys aren’t seen well in the justice system if they hit a girl
/r/AntiFeminists01/03/22 11:46 AM
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The second example is more an issue, but the differences of definitions between hubby and wifey aren’t drastic IMO
/r/EverydayMisandry28/02/22 03:42 PM
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If you want to call it barbaric go ahead, I still don’t see it that way. I have a hard time believe you can be traumatized from being circumcised. Yes of course there’s pros and cons to it, but I still think the pros overweigh cons. I don’t speak for all so I’m not gonna https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2878423/
/r/MensRights27/02/22 08:54 PM
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You can still feel pleasure when circumcised Y’know. I didn’t get to decide for myself, but personally I think that decision was for the better as it just made handling my genitals easier. I don’t speak for everyone but that’s my opinion, I don’t see how it’s harmful apart from any pain a newborn would feel then forget about as they grow up. It’s not trauma
/r/MensRights27/02/22 08:42 PM
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Right, it sounds like a pain to get later in life.
/r/MensRights27/02/22 07:02 PM
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Personally I like that I’m cut. It’s a lot easier to clean, and the thought of having extra foreskin like that just sounds uncomfortable.
/r/MensRights27/02/22 07:00 PM
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Always prepare yourself for anything if you’re gonna express a counter belief to something
/r/AntiFeminists17/02/22 11:18 PM
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Not rly a feminist but abortion is healthcare; end of story.
/r/AntiFeminists20/01/22 06:04 PM
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Natural soaps are the best out of anything, not the super scented soap you’d see. (I say this cuz my eczema reacts awfully to that kinda stuff lol)
/r/AntiFeminists20/01/22 03:53 AM
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“How does misandry affect your life?” Bruh, some girl in middle school said I gropped her out of nowhere for no reason. There was no cameras, or witnesses. I tried pleading my case but no one listened and I was the one who was given detention. Thank god that was middle school and not some girl on the subway
/r/AntiFeminists06/01/22 02:36 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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