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I failed as a father and find an appropriate tree to hang myself. Seriously, this is not something that supposed to be on the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 04:00 PM
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OK we have arrived to the usual point where the common vocabulary is insufficient. Look, when it is said some guys fail at masculinity, it does not mean they are flamboyant feminine gay-like dudes in pink tutus. It just means they are gray... withdrawn... timid... almost nonexistent, socially. Really the common vocabulary, be that RP or BP is inadequate here. For example, use this example, the idea that being dominant is masculine and being submissive is feminine. It is true, but this way: a rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 03:58 PM
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I think you may be forgetting that it is not just skills but sometimes anxiety and sometimes really just disliking and loathing people. Actually that later is a path, too. A "darkworker" path, maybe, but some socially anxious guys need to ask themselves whether it is that that they really actually loathe and dislike most people and they can't handle them because of that, because hanging out with them is like eating shitty food? This can lead to quick development, but a pretty sociopathic, "darkw…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 03:52 PM
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I would also add to put yourself into naturally "leader" situations - like be the sophomore guy in the college who shows the ropes to freshmen/freshwomen. Learn something and give training courses. Mentor people. Do Toastmasters. Seriously I have seen plenty of times how this worked well for utter "dorks" as well. Like some really dorky dude became a member of the local AIESEC and then worked there and worked so much he was elected president of it and then through this leadership really transfor…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 03:50 PM
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At almost 40 I agree. Don't expect this to be a popular opinion on Reddit. I loved me some techno party or even a place playing Metallica at 19 but now it feels so pointless, regardless of the amount of alcohol. We went on to see our favorite band and it wasn't bad but after 1 hour it was just enough and we went home. It may sound like being depressed or something but frankly it does not feel like that. It is true that we cannot feel as carefree and really grinning-with-all-teeth level of happy …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 03:42 PM
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Semi-humorous term for "progressive", and it is not as much about a set of political positions (as they tend to change) but more about generally sanctimonious, holier-than-thou, yet secular attitude and the positions derive from it. Loudly condemning any kind of "bigotry", etc. but even purely personal matters like "conspicious ethical veganism" belong to this. It is more about a subculture - one that happens to more or less rule the world these days - than defined ideology but feminism is obvio…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 08:10 AM
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Wow. The weird part is, I actually get it now. But I also think one needs to be extremely desensitized if they need to turn themselves on that way. Desensitized as in having had too much sex with too many people and all kinds of kinks and now it all feels boring and it has to be an "extreme sport" to feel something. I finished reading Marc Lewis's The Biology of Desire: Why Addiction Is Not A Disease. One of the many takeaways from that great book is there is no clear-cut difference between bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 02:05 PM
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BRB trying to figure out what I am afraid of. . . . Hm, as far as I can tell, it is mostly diseases. That is disappointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 01:15 PM
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I was wondering what are you talking about and after some googling found a relevant looking picture. However this site says even a deep one full is around 31kg each. In short, I'd estimate what you lifted was 90 kg not 190. 190kg is seriously a lot. It's the weight of three chubbier women or thinner men. A manufacturer would not expect the average users to be able to lift even one of it. Look at how cement is sold, 20kg bags, 40kg at most? Used to be 50 in my childhood in Central Europe but appa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 01:07 PM
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I think that small percentage of BP that is male, straight, succesful, and not a liar, is fairly close to a "natural".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 12:52 PM
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This is pretty good. When reading threads like this, almost 200 posts, it really puzzles me how many non-Progs (in this case, RP) not realize that accepting to frame the debate by Prog rules means a more or less automatically losing position. The best possible case is demonstrating that your group is Prog enough so they find some other group to hunt down i.e. even then best outcome makes them stronger. In order to weaken them, one needs to reframe the debate entirely. You did a very good job of …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 04:04 PM
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This is seriously epic. Hats off! I will only reflect on the the stuff I don't fully agree with: 1) Is there such a thing a muscle tone, beyond muscle size and not having much fat above it? Muscle was analyzed to death by science now, so we could get an accurate answer to that if you are interested. For example you could say it is the type 1 and type 2 fiber ratio, fast-slow twitch or myo vs sarco growth. It's just protein springs, not so complicated, so we can today have a fully researched answ…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 07:56 AM
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Let me ask a question. Why is to so that at a certain point testosterone-driven traits become a bit like ridiculous clownery and then it stops working with women? If you are familiar with 1980's culture, Mr. T from A-Team and Hulk Hogan were two examples of taking it a bit too ridiculous and I think it did not work that well. (just google their pics if you are not familiar with that era) So I mean, it seems there is such a thing as too much? This is something I kept thinking a lot. Why does the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 08:05 AM
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How does Honor = Respect? Those seem completely different concepts. Long answer: http://www.artofmanliness.com/2012/10/01/manly-honor-part-i-what-is-honor/ Shorter: it originates in respect, status inside a group. Those men whose activities benefit the group or are in accordance with accepted rules, get "honored" (respected). Behavior that gets one respected is "honorable". Ultimately at some point this gets detached from external status points and gets internalized as conscience, and this is wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 07:56 AM
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Interesting. BTW Pilates was invented by a fairly fit looking man mostly for himself, but that was long ago and it could be that it changed since that, well, actually I hope, because exercise isn't a religion, it should progress as new stuff are discovered and not stay the same between 1945 and 2016. So it could be that it changed into what you are saying. Lifting changed a lot too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 04:46 PM
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Not sure it needs to be satirized. Sure, Hulk Hogans' antics were a bit over the top and Mr. T in A-Team, well, LOL. But for example Rocky 1-2 was a very solid take on the concept of masculinity, with actual character depth and dilemmas ("you can go blind!" "i just can't support my family working a normal job") and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 04:41 PM
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That helped me embrace functionalism - watching people's actions and not words. Interesting, I have never heard the word functionalism, but I've read a bit of cognitive science and realized something. We normally believe people either lie outright or tell the truth, as in, actually try to figure out what the truth is and tell it. And cog-sci says there is a third option: it is convincing ourselves to believe what it is in our interest to believe. Because we can convince others more sincerely if …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 01:32 PM
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She flirts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 01:23 PM
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Not "best", but closer to "safest" because not surviving is really bad so it is more like optimizing for the worst case. Like insurance. Like a bike helmet. How many friends you have who don't have a first-world college degree? For example, they tend to be really into watching sports. Now extrapolate... Alone the US spent $440M on pay-per-view on the Maywater-Pacquaio and seriously, what was that about?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 08:35 AM
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???? It doesn't follow at all that they would be entitled to get it. I just mean the factual statement is not wrong, the evo-psy is not wrong etc. I'd prefer if people would feel entitled to NOTHING, not even to making a living.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 08:32 AM
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Look, this is a seriously worked out Dark Enlightenment hypothesis, me summarizing it in a comment box does not do it justice. You are perfectly right about the role of agriculture, although it primarily emerged because it could support more soldiers and win wars, actually human health seemed to have dropped (poorer diet). And women holding positions has nothing to do with it. However, it is a simple fact, and widely supported by feminists, that with agriculture and civilization female sexual ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/16 08:22 AM
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If you are thinking largely in the direction of http://hestiasociety.org/bestofnrx.html then excessive modernism yes, excessive tolerance not, e.g. Moldbug always advocated just retiring liberals with full pay, no punishment. Rather it would be excessive populism or democratism or demotism. I think NRx is fairly tolerant precisely because pre-modern rule was more tolerant. For example King George I was widely unpopular, and he did not repress dissenting voices because monarchy does not require m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 03:09 PM
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Oh, so fascism existed now before the 1920's? Man, you just took something a normal person would call maybe "conservatism" or "traditional attitudes" or "premodern thinking" and renamed it "fascism" because that sounds more bombastic. This is really dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 03:02 PM
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By this kind of logic, one should be forced to say fascism is simply normal, because virtually any human being who was not affected by Enlightenment Liberalism so basically anyone outside the born in the last 200 years, in the first world, and educated circle, pretty much worships power. For example it is an element in major religions to call god the Almighty, the all-powerful. So beware because it goes both ways, you can try to demonise TRP by comparing it to fascism which most people dislike, …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 02:58 PM
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Holy shit, you are really able to confuse the concept of the business corporation and the entirely unrelated concept of the corporate state? The only thing similar between the two uses of "corporate" is that both are "corporeal" entities, i.e. something that is seen as a body . And it is not the first time a US liberal makes this mistake on Reddit but 100th. Tell me something - was this idea suggested to you at school? Or alternatively, was it taught to you that corporations are so bad that the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 02:44 PM
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Ownership, as in, "autonomy"? Why is everybody so hung up about it since about the Enlightenment? Why couldn't a human being happy while not having this thing, while being dependent on others? Here is an interesting thing. Religion still exists, and there are even surveys suggesting religious people are happier. And pretty much every religious person is at some level not-self-owning or non-autonomous because they feel they are owned by god. And yet it does not bother them. They can still live ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 02:35 PM
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My entire male line, composed of men that'd never displayed the so called traits of "dominance" would have been extinct for thousands of years. You completely miss the point. The core RPish idea is that civilization means men don't need to be dominant because betas are more or less assigned a wife and social shaming keeps her loyal. So that civilization means controlling the sexual choice of women. Hence in a civilization a man needs not much dominance because he gets arrange married to a shy gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 02:18 PM
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In mammals, precisely because they are K selected, having few offspring. Wouldn't be so true for fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 02:13 PM
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The issue is greek gods are like 0.002% of men. Don't forget how repulsive many a world of warcraft addict can be. As a rule of thumb - if I want to make a teenager movie and need a lot of extras, yes, only about 20% of teenager boys will do, as the rest is gonna be ugly, fat, childish, puerile, a big baby and so on. And about 50% of the girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 02:10 PM
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Eh, Haidt killed that argument ages ago. Basically, EP is just taking ideas from E but then testing them with the same toolkit as normal psy uses. If EP is bunk, so is every other psy because the testing toolkit is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 02:07 PM
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to both know what science actually is and use language to accurately describe it Science is a method, but a better term would be here "academia". Academia is very often an arm of government. Don't be too idealist about science, when pure methods and power meet, power wins, nature does not give a damn, but humans believe that power generated bullshit is science.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 02:06 PM
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But this is precisely that - most social and even many natural scientists fail at science, because they spew leftist ideology, not science and indeed nature does not give a shit about that. I mean, do you think academia today somehow guarantees that publish science is actually good and has anything to do with nature? Why? The peer review process is hardly more than plausibility checking, but they don't reproduce experiments much. Ultimately the whole thing rests at social pressure, if social pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 02:05 PM
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Compared to what? Realize how up to 1945 America was considered to the left of Europe because things like American libertarianism and democracy were compared to European monarchism, fascism and nationalism. After 1945 Europe ran to the far left while America changed far slower, although similarly leftwards. How and why it happened is debated, the Dark Enlightenment's position is that Europe was occupied and American liberal elites - Harvard - could push their ideas on Europe than at home where t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 01:58 PM
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Evolution is very much a factor of the change in environment. This is extremely insightful and also explains why brains probably changed during history to a certain extent as well. Imagine killing all blond people. Bang, that gene is gone from the pool. You could model this as the environment suddenly being very, very hostile for blonde genes. However the shit is this. Brains had to change through history because it was volatile. But also they probably changed in a way that is "even more red pil…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 01:48 PM
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No and yes. I think it is time separate different meanings of attractive. For example when you are young and taking things very emotionally and also very sexually, then a clear no. But when you are 37 you expect your 33 years old wife to be able to put the kids in place when they misbehave and not always have to run complaining to you? My point is that both of you pillz need to see the complete lifecycle of humans, from puberty to grave. Girls need to be girly. But 35 year old moms need to be no…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 01:34 PM
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There was an article on t-nation, but I cannot find it anymore. Long story short: being angry at yourself helps. Not hating yourself but angry at yourself. Different story. Hating yourself is "I suck", angry at yourself is "come on, lazy fuck, you can do much more than this".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 01:23 PM
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Sounds about correct. You could say the same about job hunting for example. Or even test taking at school. Or the winning and losing streaks of football teams.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/16 01:19 PM
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As in: people who live in countries where prostitution isn't legal failing to realize that they job they want to automate with robots is an actual, real job and often called the oldest profession.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/16 02:06 PM
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I think the beta picture is way off, that is a perfectly normal good looking guy behaving in a way that is normal with a child, no submissiveness or neediness shown, and most likely that must be a stock photo with models because it is suspiciously well done. But I looked around on that site and it seems the site owner is the perfect definition of beta ever: http://www.danoah.com/2012/10/16-ways-i-blew-my-marriage.html
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 03:15 PM
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Sneering upper class giving handouts to the poors to buy their vote. It is not always simple. Generally speaking it is about being educationally upper class ("Brahmin") not monetary upper class ("Optimate") and the clients are not the lower middle class plumbers (those are the Republicans) but the class below that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 03:08 PM
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Given that education today means indoctrination, one can hope they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 03:05 PM
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winning petty arguments seems higher on his priority list than rationality. That is every democratic politician ever. They need to be popular. They don't need to be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 03:03 PM
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I don't think he is the ideal alpha male, he is just better at it than other candidates. Look at this video of General Patton giving a speech. what you see is far less of this histrionic, emotional stuff and far more calmness. That is the ideal male. But as a general rule, basically the root of the whole RP thing is that women tick so that if they feel respect for a man, they will also feel lust. Men won't, but of course respect still matters for men. And of course being respectable is a big par…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 03:01 PM
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Obligatory: http://www.nytimes.com/2000/04/02/magazine/the-he-hormone.html
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 02:12 PM
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The issue is that many feminists see that as a feature, not bug. As in they think male aggressivity is responsible for a lot of bad stuff in the world and more role given to women makes a more peaceful and cooperative world. There are a lot of things wrong with this idea, for example, they are not changing the world, just the West, and this leads to a huge competitive disadvantage for the West, but anyway, that is a long story, the important point is that it is more or less intentional, not acci…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 02:10 PM
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Hint: in any important nature/nurture debate, if you are going to go for 0% or 100% you are probably not understanding something correctly. Twin studies tend to put a lot of important factors around 75% to nature. But in this case, the exact mechanism is more or less know already so it requires forcible ignorance to not see it. Namely, the hormone responsible for dominant behavior is testosterone. Men naturally have more because women aromatize it to estrogen, but social factors also play a role…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 02:07 PM
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I was 17 when I started it and it had an immense psychological effect, in confidence and suchlike. It was more of a traditional body building, a mixed routine, barbells, dumbbells, cables, with a split. I don't know if barbell-only, full body, like Stronglifts, is better or not. I think its primary virtue is cutting down on time needed, as you do mostly the same lifts in traditional body-building as well, however in that kind of split one does 1-2 big lifts a day, and then isolation work. And it…
/r/askTRP09/03/16 05:22 PM
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I see your point. I thought OP means a divorce like 2-3 years after birth. If a man doesn't even see his child, he probably cares far less. Although I think would be curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 05:16 PM
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Hm, I find that surprising, given that these days in countries like Germany or Sweden even Cathedral (sorry, if you are not familiar with Dark Enlightenment terminology: it means mainstream, liberal, politically correct) sources admit that the core problem is that guys from countries where women wear tents and they suddenly see liberated girls in miniskirts and go crazy. Nevertheless I accept that bouncers have a lot of experience with this... just sounds strange. You see, I used to hang out wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 02:50 PM
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Hormones are interesting things. You will keep thinking this until you actually take your firstborn in your arms. Then something changes in brain chemistry and you realize that this weird, noisy, ugly, almost animal like little creature is now the most important thing in your life and you'd kill anyone who'd try to harm her/him. After that there is about a year of utter suck or two. Then there is the thing called "toddler smile". It melts fucking icebergs. Not trying to convince you of anything …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 01:59 PM
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That's why feminists are fighting rape culture. They should be fighting immigration culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/16 01:54 PM
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I think he reinvented Stoicism and hormesis: http://gettingstronger.org/stoicism/ 100 push-ups a day are good only for getting shoulder pain. However 30-40 one-armed push-ups every second day, now that would be (probably, unless you are mega strong) hypertrophy. Same for one-legged squats. If you can't even one, you can look up progressions online. Generally, there is a difference between "sucks because boring" (like doing anything 100 times) or "sucks because real hard" (which is better).
/r/TheRedPill09/03/16 01:50 PM
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Interestingly, while boxers thrown jab-cross combos all the time, basically a staple, MMA fighters tend to throw the overhand right (cross) only when it is really well set up and that is why it so effective because they tend use it in the best moment only. I don't know why, I suspect given the different rules an overhand/cross in the wrong moment opens you up to some kind of counter that is legal in MMA and not in boxing.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/16 01:19 PM
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Hm, this sounds true. Although one problem I found in boxing is that we focused on blocking on these beginner levels because that is easiest. But that is optimized for gloves. Without gloves if anyone punches me in the mouth I won't just put my hand in the way, that would just make me eat my hand. Looking at those who don't use gloves, like karate, they parry, they don't block. Although theoretically parrying can be used in boxing, in our gym I haven' seen that ever, even the guys who were so go…
/r/TheRedPill09/03/16 12:07 PM
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Why don't you filter your fucking media? Here is what videogames I play: Mount and Blade Warband, Paradox titles, GTA. Here is what movies I watch: only historic ones, Last Samurai type or similar. Typically they are about war. OTOH I think you are over-exaggerating things. It is perfectly possible to be loved by women. It's just that different traits elicit that, not what this media says. It happened to me at least three times in my life that some woman who was in my broad circle of friends lit…
/r/TheRedPill09/03/16 10:35 AM
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Drunk fat swearing cussing British pub girls are the worst IMHO when I lived there I was so disgusted I never even made a move. Online dating worked for me. I know a lot of men say it doesn't, but it depends on your preferences, if you go for a hot photo of course her inbox is full, I was mostly filtering for intelligently written self-descriptions. Same thing here in Central Europe. My opinion is that if it is purely sexual desire, find a prostitute. I always wanted real girlfriends who aren't …
/r/TheRedPill09/03/16 10:19 AM
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This is why I love Mark Manson's Models. I think the author learned a lot of RP stuff but still at some point managed to somehow calm the fuck down and interpret it in a way that is low-stress, friendly, normal, don't know how to express it better but if you read the book you will get it. OK he fucked up a few things, for example he has this idiotic habit (that seems to be the exclusive ideology of upper-class, highly educated Americans) that everybody has some hobbies or passions or interests. …
/r/TheRedPill09/03/16 10:01 AM
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It's something where the 90-10 types of rules are very important. Just six month of boxing makes you infinitely better than the vast majority of men who don't even keep their other hand up when they throw a punch, can't even jab just throw wiiide hooks telegraphed into the next county, leave themselves wide open and generally are really clueless. Beyond that six months, it is entirely optional, as everything beyond that matters only at the level of fighting other martial artists, in the ring or …
/r/TheRedPill09/03/16 09:51 AM
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My opinion is that all those dumbbells and cables exist for a reason. The reason is that barbell-only training is hard and unless you have exceptional willpower, you will quit. But you will not quit a mixed program (barbell, dumbbell, cable), because that is easier. Then again of course if you think you do have really above average discipline, go for barbells. They are best. For guys who know and accepted that they are wimps in willpower, the best thing is to stick to an easier training because …
/r/TheRedPill04/03/16 02:17 PM
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UnluckyPenguin, I am not at all convinced it is feminism per se or is it a general decline of mores, a general decadence, and feminism merely being one of those symptoms.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/16 01:55 PM
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Then write a blog post or something. Or do whatever you want, but basically talking about something in a "teaser" way - that there is something interesting but I won't tell ya what - is not much useful for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 01:41 PM
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Loserguy88, What demographic, really? I don't think the men who grow up in ghetto / trashy circumstances are Nice Guys. Or the favelas of Brazil. Or Moscow. Or are on an US college football team. Right? But the Reddit Demographic? I mean, Reddit is largely a US & Anglosphere based nerdy white/jewish/asian male forum with a strong moms basement vibe. It's a forum where Dwight Shrute memes are funny. Where STEM is a typical career. Remember, Nice does not mean nice, it means cowardly and timid. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 01:39 PM
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Hi IM, I am working on a different set of advices. I have not worked it out fully yet but basically the problem is with these monk and champ modes is willpower. Modern people have shit for willpower or impulse control. And really they won't have more just because TRP tells them a million times to not be a bitch. Lacking willpower means 1) doing easy stuff that 2) has immediate good feels rewards. Obesity, fat food and sugar addiction, alcohol, droogz, and videogames are all in this category. Tha…
/r/TheRedPill04/03/16 12:06 PM
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Hi IM, I am working on a different set of advices. I have not worked it out but basically the problem is with these monk and champ modes is willpower. Modern people have shit for willpower or impulse control. And really they won't have more just because TRP tells them a million times to not be a bitch. Lacking willpower means 1) doing easy stuff that 2) has immediate good feels rewards. Obesity, fat food and sugar addiction, alcohol, droogz, and videogames are all in this category. That is why t…
/r/TheRedPill04/03/16 12:06 PM
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Slack has built its culture and brand around "friendly." It's a workplace chat app named "Slack." It jokes with you when you load it. It's in bright colors. It's biggest update included...emojis. Millenials in a nutshell. Call me an old fart, but this gives me the hives and I KNOW how extremely common this happy-go-lucky-friendly empty shallow shit is common amongst Millenials.... Thankfully we just use email at work + phone or face to face talk like normal people.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/16 11:50 AM
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It is to be expected, forget Silicon Valley and this kind of overhyped startuppity internet fad industry and focus on some real-world kind of programming like say Oracle Financials or medical software, something that people NEED to use for work instead of making "cool" products people may like to use for fun, and you will notice all this politics is replaced by professionalism.
/r/TheRedPill04/03/16 11:48 AM
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Chaosmage from SSC has an excellent theory, let me channel this. First there is standard rank theory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_approaches_to_depression#Rank_theory "Rank theory is the hypothesis that, if an individual is involved in a lengthy fight for dominance in a social group and is clearly losing, then depression causes the individual to back down and accept the submissive role. In doing so, the individual is protected from unnecessary harm. In this way, depression helps m…
/r/TheRedPill04/03/16 11:45 AM
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On the other hard, you can also see extreme levels of conformism at women, but that conformism largely means conforming to the opinion of other women, be that pro or anti establishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 11:08 AM
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It's not a matter of belief. It is more or less proven that the most importang human traits are about 75% heritable. See Jayman, Razib Khan etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 11:06 AM
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The DE goes far, far deeper than just recognizing human biodiversity. That is merely one facet. My favorite aspect is psychology: status drive, group dynamics...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 11:03 AM
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I haven't learned lethal ones, just standard kick-boxing, and I must admit it did less for me than lifting. I expected it to change me psychologically, but it didn't. I did not stick around until full force sparring, but basically the usual partner practice, kicking and punching each others gloves, is just a dance, and light sparring is basically like toy fencing, nothing to write home about. Lifting did more for me... and I don't even lift in this currently fashionable power lifting way, dead-a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 11:02 AM
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Sounds like the over/cover theory: http://www.overcomingbias.com/2010/08/billandme.html
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 10:58 AM
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Holy shit, is US suburbia really such a "deathtrap"? I can get to 3-4 gyms by getting on the tramway line running in front of our flat... any chance of making something like a 125cc motorbike licence and then buying something like a used Honda Shadow far cheaper than a car? It's FUN and very manly to ride motorbikes and cheaper than cars and so on. Confession: I haven't bothered to do it, but I did ride an 50cc bike which my car driving licence allowed me and even that was considerably fun. But …
/r/becomeaman04/03/16 08:41 AM
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Courage. Read Models. Models is a very interesting book. It's "purple pill", does a very good job of explaining RP non-neediness / frame-control yet strangely compatible with feminist lingo, using terms like "vulnerability" and even "not bottling up emotions".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 08:29 AM
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The important thing is to realize there are two different axes. One is status: being called racist is extremely low-status, so people try to avoid it. For example the term "hate", "hate movement" simply means "low status", "low prestige", because the kind of hate that is actually approved by the high prestige cultural elites, like hating rich people, of course never gets categorized as "hate movement". The other is truth. Basically, the big question if reality itself is racist or not, if there a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 01:06 PM
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I have to disagree, despite being mostly reddish myself. You see, humans are creatures of habit and this means that for example when you graduate high school you miss even those classmates who were not really friends, but you just got used to them. You are used to seeing their face every day. You miss them just because it is a pattern you are used to. Same way love may evaporate, but if you wake up beside the same woman/man for 10 years, you get used to her/him. They are basically a pattern you …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 12:55 PM
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Depends on the individual, the genes and habits. Your friend who is obese and alcohol abuser at 28 probably feels old and does not feel like trying to be the impressive guy in the bar. There are men slaying it at 40, they are those types who e.g. never smoked a cig in their whole life because they just have that much discipline. But even with a good lifestyle something like depression could make one feel tired of life. So it depends.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 12:44 PM
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Yes, and then conclusion is that dialectics is all bullshit going back to its originator: Hegel. Hegel was shit at being an empiricist - as in: actually finding something remotely similar to a real-world proof for his views - and all the rest of the lineage, from Marx to Lukacs, not better. Basically was Hegel was up to was making a new religion - back then everybody from Nietzsche to Kierkegaard (i.e. from the fierce atheist to the actual Christian) saw that. Same for Marxism and all that. Dial…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/16 12:31 PM
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Why is everybody talking about business owners? In most European countries it is paid by the government i.e. from social security. Otherwise the businesses would never hire young women. Whether it is a good thing that way or bad, not sure. Obviously for a middle class family taxed through the nose any opportunity to get some of it back is good. For the rest, it is basically yet another welfare program and even more explicitly dysgenic than most others... it'd be better to have tax cuts for the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 12:51 PM
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Or maybe achievable for extremely dedicated men, but I think this is a big problem if average people compare themselves to them. Let's be honest. Most people don't have the drive the top guys in anything have. Their realistic goal should be just to be less of a loser, not to be a winner. Having creatine and protein supplements which Atlas did not have, a realistic goal for the average common normal loser is to have arms top out at 42 to 45 cm. 18 inch.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 12:48 PM
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These discussions are entirely pointless. Most people don't have the willpower to be anything but fat. Or skinnyfat. Nobody gets freakish muscles accidentally, it is a huge amount of effort or time. Otter bodies are lower effort and time on training but high on diet, or in other words, guys who naturally don't really like to gorge on food but do train somewhat will often be like that. So there is really no point in discussing the top level champs. What happens on the normal level is that a guy w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 12:38 PM
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Digital nomad? Like, herding those electric sheep the androids dream of?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 11:10 AM
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http://www.vox.com/2015/6/3/8706323/college-professor-afraid
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 11:09 AM
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That's the whole point - no such thing as conservative city people. Well they may be voting for such a party, but not culturally living conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 08:26 AM
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Oh, that is easy: authorities always believe the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 02:20 PM
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If there is one thing I learned from Yudkowsky's ongoing research is that ethics is hard, like, really really hard. Many obvious looking things are not so obvious when you look closer. Ultimately the only solution I could find was to bridge the is-ought gap, unfallacy the naturalistic fallacy, bridge values and facts and bury Hume's guilleotine. Basically, to say that being good to a being means helping it to flourish according to its own factual nature, not universal principles. So being good t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 02:12 PM
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This actually makes sense. Don't think about political preferences as merely personal choices, but as a factor of what subculture, what "tribe" you grown up in. And this determines a lot of other things. I mean basically everybody connects vegetarianism with liberalism or leftism. But why? Because it is something an urban college-ed liberal arts type would do. It's not something a rural plumber would do who spends his free time sparring in the boxing gym and watching football. It's similar. Don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 01:58 PM
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Central Europe. Dad, RIP, was a businessman. Fairly nice car, suit, tie, never stopped by the police. On Sundays he liked to drive to the bakery for fresh bread. In a sweatsuit. Pulled over every time there was a police. Sweatsuit guy in nice car? Must be maffioso. I am not even mad, I think they use such heuristics because they work better than not using them. If I had to guess that out of 100 white men which one has drugs on him, I'd pick the guy with the most tats. Extra points for shaven hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 01:50 PM
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Guangzhou/Shenzhen/HK?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 01:43 PM
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Very much, my wife lately made me aware that there is such a thing as male privilege after all, more precisely, a tall, broad-shouldered male privilege, because I don't think short pencilnecks get it. Basically it is people walking around me like a normal civilized human should, whoever notices the other first, gives way, no bumps. My wife is telling me when she is out without me, a lot of assholes just bump into her, walk right through her, not even noticing, not even minding the pram with is e…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 01:39 PM
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OTOH then progressive/feminist view is reducing complicated, multi-faceted issues onto oppression. Not saying TBP = feminism, just saying oppression-reductionism is probably a large part of the reasons why TRP emerged. To give you one example, men are careerists because they think it helps them get women. Women never think having a prestigious job helps them get men, if and when they are careerists, they have different reasons. Those different reasons exist for men, too. So as men have more reas…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 11:38 AM
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I think height is not as much as visual as literally looking up to the man they are talking with, dating with, which is a submissive move. Height advantage is plain simply dominating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 09:04 AM
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Because while niceness not necessarily comes from a lack of courage, it may. People who are afraid of confronting others can easily be too-nice and submissive, both.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/16 09:02 AM
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Read The Mating Mind, better than Sex at Dawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 01:46 PM
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I think the subculture and the ideas should be separated. Central TRP ideas are correct, the subculture is full of angry losers, and I would not be surprised if this would attract profiteering leaders. Since we have the Internet it is hard to tell ideas from subcultures people is it is so easy to get into a signalling arms race that people can run far away with ideas, farther away than intended. Stick to the core, I say, the core is OK. In other words, stick to 2008 TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 01:45 PM
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who deliberately went into the GRD to be a shepherd among the communists Aha. Virtue-signalling, holiness-signalling. I have had this theory that it is not that true that the religious right is so far away from the loony left. Both religion and leftism has this holiness-signalling arms races and it can rapidly slide into the other. Stable conservatisms are more based on patriotism and economics than religion. For example in Norway it took less than a decade in the 1970's to rapidly go from every…
/r/TheRedPill05/02/16 12:02 PM
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I must disagree, but it may took too long to explain. I'll try to shorten it: imagine the left-right divide as horizontal as in not elites vs. poor or something, but two kinds of elites against each other and they all having supporters from their lower classes, similarly pitted against each other. Left elites are intellectuals. Right elites are property owners, in the past aristocrats, today capitalists. And yes, the later invariably ends up more manly for various reasons. Now for their respecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 11:53 AM
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I was maybe an 4-5 guy and lifted etc. myself to 6-7 and then constantly hit on 9-10 women and failed because I had an inflated sense of myself and would have been embarrassed to be seen by average girls. And I constantly ignored clear IOUs from 5-6 women because they were just nothing to write home about. It was stupid. Men are polygamous not hypergamous. Don't make it a matter of pride. A plain girl is better than going home alone. I was just too proud and vain. There was this girl in my high …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 10:58 AM
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Well, that was disappointingly content-free.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 10:50 AM
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Justified... let's not moralize that much. Why turn everything into a right/wrong story. Just do stuff in a way that it benefits you. Don't try to change people. Raise your SMV or stick to low SMV girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 10:48 AM
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This was love, not romantic attraction. It was essentially something unselfish, but romantic attraction is selfish. Romantic love is an oxymoron, it means selfish unselfishness. The issue is, people are turning more and more selfish so there is less and less love and they rely more on romantic attraction to hold marriages together.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 10:46 AM
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Sounds familiar. The problem with such theories is that they are "Enlightenmentists", a typical feature of the "liberal" arts and sciences, namely the idea that only ignorance holds people back and once you learn a "higher" moral level there is no way back. It's the same story that if you for example express "hatefulness" to any group of people, you get called "ignorant". This basically suggests this could only come from a misunderstanding, a lack of accurate knowledge. But of course in reality …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 10:43 AM
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It shouldn't be intertwined for men either, but it is a typical "beta" mistake to intertwine it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 10:36 AM
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OK, so what does that mean in real life? E.g. not be afraid of crying? But of course I was crying when my dad died and nobody considered that unmasculine. But over breakups didn't, or over "hurtful" things people said didn't, not because I suppressed it but because I am seriously tougher than that or different to that, breakups left me kinda annoyed and "hurtful" things said to me simply angry. I don't really think men suppress this much, I think it is more or less genuine to react with anger to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 10:35 AM
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To your original post: eh, this "inferiority" problem is way overblown and misunderstood. The basic idea is that women are not so good in the kind of stuff men tend to value in each other or at doing a mans job, like, really strict logical thinking without any emotions. And "locker room talk" is always a bit, how to put it, over-blunt, so you hear men talking like all-women-are-stupid and so on but don't take that fully seriously (I for one are a huge fan of the philosopher Ruth Millikan and man…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 10:24 AM
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Very good post, let me take it one step further. Most people have a certain sense of justice or fairness expectation from life. If you treat people nice, you get something nice back. And it is true - you get affection, friendship, your favors are often reciprocated when you need a favor. Nice guys have friends who help them move house and that sort of stuff, roughly. And in other aspects of life, there is a lot of fairness, study hard, work hard, get a decent job, and ultimately what does that b…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 10:14 AM
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But what is valuable in vulnerability? Well, maybe I am not understanding that word properly, because I think this word is not used in my circles at all. I would interpret it almost literally, like how tanks are vulnerable to anti-tank missiles and the same way that certain stuff and emotions could really hurt a person emotionally. But what is so good about being hurt? And how is that not a true actual weakness? Isn't a tank that withstands anti-tank missiles actually really stronger and better?…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 10:02 AM
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This really depends on how much value you put on kids, as in, having 10 not 1-2. When 10, women were of course fully utilized in something they are very good at, at the opportunity cost of not utilized for something else, so it really depends if you want that and how much and so on. In a premodern war environment when the number of soldiers totally matters, it can be called a rational strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:58 AM
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to prevent reliving their perceived experiences of abandonment by their parental (authority) figures during childhood This is interesting. So I suppose it is important to raise our kids in a way that they don't perceive any hint of abandonment. How? I mean, what did those parents screw up? I suppose when it happens to to girls, the result is the will suck dong for validation / acceptance kind of behavior, which is just so sad, if a girl wants to be a slut at least do it for the reasons of truly …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:53 AM
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In other words, low-status. The issue is, people who tend towards being submissive don't mind low-status much. The root of why feminist/progressive/leftish worldviews are wrong is that this idea that it is wrong for people to have unequal status. I understand where it is coming from from: I was kinda leftish at 16 and it was all about me being absolutely pissed off when I was treated low-status, for example, by adults, for my age: standard teenage rage. It had wounded my pride basically. I think…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:27 AM
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No siblings unfortunately. It doesn't mean not knowing certainly women closely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:17 AM
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Let me add an insight maybe. One reason this superiority and inferiority thing comes up is that traditional womanly virtues became less useful. People don't have 10 kids just 1-2 so of course nurturing and all that is less important now. Housework is less important, and better automated. And generally if you look at how families function vs. used to function... Chesterton had a good say: men look after the one big hole through which money comes in the house and women look after the thousand smal…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 02:04 PM
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I do. But only for the top quality men, and through looks usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 01:57 PM
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Because we and our social circles are usually ex-nerds who did terribly. I hardly ever saw a succesful one. This pic was all I saw in million versions. Strange that other people have other experiences, maybe because different social circles are different. But if all I know is that no nerd I know was succesful, and they were timid as shit, why is that not a reasonable assumption that those other succesful nerds are bold? Simple explanation? Well, different people have different tastes but still o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 12:26 PM
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Or the ability to not attract softies. Perhaps these traits are far more hereditary and it merely selects for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 11:48 AM
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In raw ability, my wife's IQ is higher than mine by a few points, so technically SHE is the smarter one. However, she is not very interested in philosophy, politics, religion, or most commonly "intellectual" pursuits. She is capable, but not interested. I have a similar experience. My wife is smart but her mind is strictly practical, not abstract. She figures out the family budget, and doesn't care about philosophy. Wasn't even always fully so, it was mostly motherhood that made her so, was more…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 11:29 AM
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Women aren't inferior, they are superior in different kinds of things like calming scared infants. I seriously suck at finding out why my toddler is crying. My wife does it by magic, I swear. Women are inferior only in the sense that inferior in things that matter to men or at doing a mans job. So when men discuss with each other things that matter to them, then of course women are generally inferior in those things. So of course listening to these discussions gives you the impression of a view …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 11:27 AM
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Cato Institute author
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/16 12:58 PM
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lel
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 04:35 PM
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I am about 90% red and yet I refuse to believe this is a new thing. I think this an old thing that observant men always knew before feminism and before Victorian princess-worship so basically before 1800 or so. But I guess I find the old timey patriarchy perfectly normal. Why don't you? The natural balance is sultans having harems and many betas single and angry and refuse to produce and fight. These countries get destroyed by countries where patriarchy forces women away from alphas and forces t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 03:42 PM
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How can one ensure someone with a real name and an academic career to risk will not be afraid to say something non-PC? SJW swarms destroy careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 03:37 PM
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Ugh. You don't have to do it this complicated. Most women today are poor wives/mothers. A Playmate or anyone pretty is almost guaranteed to, your only chance is is some rather plainer shy-librarian or scientist[1] or farm girl. [1] not sure what pill this thought is, but IQ makes everything better, including making people responsible and caring where it is due
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 03:08 PM
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Look at this guy. http://faculty.law.gmu.edu/isomin/ It is the mouth/chin/smile that tells me and the too innocent eyes. With some determination and hardness in his face, this guy would even be handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 03:04 PM
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However the usual thought is that higher testosterone levels will amplify alpha traits. Some of them, but they are not a perfect replacement for T and reduce natural T production. So better not to draw conclusions from it. "Roid rage" is no alpha trait, alphas are supposed to be calm and in control. About your question, you need to separate breakup-jealousy from cheating-jealousy. The alpha has options, if she wants to go, she can go. But let's not confuse it with not beaing jealous! Most of jea…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/16 03:02 PM
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Fuckin' please. Stop thinking it is about you. You are on an internet forum. You are probably intelligent and educated. You obviously don't work the same way as simple women who listen to their instincts. I mean it is the same with men. Normal, simple men spend their time brawling in bars and replying with a punch every time they feel someone is dissing them and all that. But on Reddit, it is a more educated and intelligent population here who don't follow their instincts. Really, it is a huge W…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 10:18 AM
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But there are more women masturbating to 50 shades type of stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 11:58 AM
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It is a movie about female fantasies. Women fantasize about alphas loving them so much they would even sacrifice themselves for them. Real alphas rarely do that (well, only if they have kids and suchlike), so this is not accurate. However to fulfill this fantasy, the authors had to present Jack in a way that really presses the alpha triggers in womens minds. And it worked. I mean, the movie became insanely popular with women. Surely, not a documentary, but if any work of art can make a billion p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/16 11:57 AM
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What I call subjective status is usually called Game, Inner Game or frame-holding. I call it subjective status because 1) I think it boils down to really behaving in a way that as if you were higher status than you actually are 2) I want to tie it to other forms of status which matter too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 04:39 PM
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I was in a similar sized German city in October and basically I saw this. In the evening, at the mall, there were white girls and brown men, and NO white men at all. Either they were intimidated by the brown men or just too busy playing videogames, dunno. But it was very strange. The white men were nowhere to be seen. The brown men were masculine, deep voice, often muscular, hitting on the girls, the girls - often just 14-15 - were rather giggly and appreciated them. And not a young white man in…
/r/TheRedPill19/01/16 04:32 PM
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See, just forget mainstream media already. It is for proles. Hold yourself to higher standards and shut it ALL out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 10:14 AM
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My only problem with this is that feminism is a too sweeping term, it is not really that accurate to call any instance of women acting bad (i.e. creep-shaming of unattractive men) just feminism, while it is correct that it is ultimately caused by that, it is just a too broad term. But generally what happens is this. To a man, most women are roughly equally worthy. Some hotter, some uglier, but roughly equal. So what men really don't understand and don't expect from women that for women an unattr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 10:12 AM
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This is strange really. I hang out with many unpopular, un-PC ideas crowd like NRx / Dark Enlightenment and generally they tend to attract interesting men. Also some interesting women. And RP is somehow different, there are many interesting bloggers, but there is also a certain subset that just reeks of loserdom. I don't really know why, but I do have a theory. It is fairly obvious that any today who is outside the PC-circles has things to complain about. And it is okay to complain about liberal…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 10:04 AM
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Not 100% sure it is a women/men dichotomy. I would say, Clint Eastwood type strongly masculine men prefer unambiguous hierarchies, but a lot of fabululous metrosexual artists don't. And a lot of women, of more trad/religious background, find security an safety in having the man as a strong head of family... see RPW.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 08:33 AM
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There is a strong human psychological drive for forming "tribes", see this: http://thefutureprimaeval.net/mannerbund-101/ I don't know if US frats are ideal for this. German unversities definitely had Männerbünde and Burschenshaften in the past, so it is not at all alien from Europe. They spent time dueling with sharp swords and parading theirs scars around. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burschenschaft I think same-gender organizations, male and female spaces are excellent because you can talk f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 01:06 PM
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I'd accept this only from men who tried "pros" where they are legal (Amsterdam, Hamburg) and found them A+ super good. In reality, most men find them boring. Which suggests most men go for validation, the feeling of "earned conquest".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 12:57 PM
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Look, the physical aspect of sex with a "pro" in Amsterdam, sitting in a shop window almost naked, is €60 a go and they are not even ugly. I think in itself that does not worth much. The market is certainly not pricing the "pros" high. So I'll say 99% validation. The pride that yes I really "earned" this or made this girl want me. It is weird really, because the evolutionary logic would predict physical > validation and yet the above shows how it is not so.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 12:56 PM
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I think I understand this logic, but let me play the devil's advocate. Men don't feel sexual arousal for degrees. But perhaps respect them, or generally respect intelligence. Do you think a relationship can work where there is not much sexual arousal, but there is a lot of respecft? Let me qualify this question. Maybe it does not work at 19 and hot and young and hormonal. But at 52 with 4 kids and tired of life, maybe better? If you as a man are 52 and tired of life, you don't want sex, you don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 12:47 PM
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This is one of the more confusing parts of RP. To straighten it out: generally speaking, the optimal reproduction strategy for men is not have a relationship, but to have many one night stands. From this angle, wanting a relationship is a compromise, or can be interpreted already buying the feminine imperative. After all, biologically speaking, mothers really need relationships physically, fathers only emotionally. So the statement that men don't want relationships should be interpreted as "real…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 12:37 PM
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The ur-problem is the fucking stupid modern idea of generic egalitarianism that says all humans should be equal. Then it follows that if women are not equal to men then they are not really people. But of course e.g. vassals are people, if you think feudal. If we only deny egalitarianism, we can say some people should have a lower place in the hierarchy than some other, but they are all people. Similarly, we have to deny autonomy. Today it is believed all people deserve autonomy, so denying someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 12:25 PM
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I think feminist/MRA is a totally different axis than BP beta / RP alpha, and one reason I don't spend too much time in these subcultures is that people mix these two. All. The Fucking. Time. When I was 12 I thought, from Flash Gordon type movies, that the ideal way to womanize is to save the damsel in distress and then she falls in love with you out of gratitude. Was that BP beta? Like obviously. But it wasn't feminist. Feminists dislike those movies just like RPs do, just for different reasons…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 12:17 PM
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