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But wouldn't it still be interesting and informative to reveal that slave owners genuinely felt warmly towards their slaves if the general population believed they actually hated them? This would, just as the paper does, show a clearly erroneous stereotype. And in addition would highlight how nuanced and complex the psychology of slave owners was - that they can simultaneously inflict immense harms on a group whilst also holding positive attitudes about them?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/25 08:39 PM
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In the same way asking people from the GOP whether they like or dislike black people, yes. Thing is, they're relatively unlikely to say "no" to your face. But it's not to anyone's face. Essentially all the data derive from anonymous online surveys. I can't see how social desirability could motivate respondents in this context, as no one knows who you are and there is no one to impress, nor any risk of being called out for having a negative attitude. again, anybody knows what answer is expected o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/25 08:04 PM
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Sacrificial moral dilemmas are an incredible round-about way of attempting to measure liking, and not one which is supported by the wider literature. For example, most people express greater liking for puppies than humans (as indicated by self-report scales similar to the ones used in study above), but will nevertheless chose to save a human over a puppy in a trolley dilemma.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/25 06:53 PM
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OK, I see what you mean. Attitudes such as warmth and liking do seem to at least be one component of the phenomena of though, right? People do seem to generally think that feminists do not like men and do not hold particularly warm feelings towards them as a group (see the meta-perceptions studies at the end of the paper, I believe Studies 5 and 6). Given that, it seems reasonable to test the accuracy of this belief by asking feminists about how much they like and feel warm towards men?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/25 06:45 PM
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Fair enough. I can see how mere disliking is only one aspect of misandry/misogyny, and to comprehensively characterize the phenomena would require studying a lot of other beliefs and behaviours (e.g., rhetoric). Simple attitudes such as warmth and liking do seem like a reasonable place to start though. And they do show, I think convincingly, that feminists do not dislike men or feel particularly cold towards them as a group, but that people think they do (see the meta-perceptions studies at the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/25 06:39 PM
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I understand if you don't find the work convincing, but i'm not sure by what standards you can say it is lazy. By any conceivable norm of their discipline, social psychology, the authors went over and above what would typically be expected of a contribution. The paper presents 6 studies on over 10K participants from around the globe, often sampled in a representative manner. I don't know what social science you've been reading lately, but this is anything but lazy
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/25 10:47 AM
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Why do the authors geographical locations matter? I appreciate there is risk of bias here if feminists are investigating themselves. But what exactly are you accusing the authors of? Do you think they have essentially made up their data, or maybe failed to report things honestly? The work seems to be reported in a pretty transparent manner, and all the data is shared in a public repository, and I'm struggling to find any clear biases in their methods or analysis. Do you see any?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/25 10:42 AM
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This is a bit of an oversimplification of what the paper claims. The claim is one about group means - that feminists feel no less warm towards men than do non-feminists. In no way does this claim entail that misandry does not exists. Consider the same sort of claim in relation to IQ: It can both be true that there are no reliable differences in the mean IQs of men and women, and that there exist many cases of stupid and smart men and women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/25 10:34 AM
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There are a large number of oversimplifications and errors in your critique. The study measures "misandry" by directly asking subjects if they hate men. This is not correct. In no place does the study directly ask about 'hate'. It asks about feelings of warmth/coldness, liking, trust, and gender stereotypes. The the critique about feminists' positivity being merely socially-desirable responding is also lacking. Even if social-desirability might account for some part of the responding, there is n…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/25 12:45 AM
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