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I got downvoted from my very first post in this thread, which made no claims at all about the sub; just questioned whether isolated incidents like this have much to do with men's rights in general. I really don't care about getting downvotes here, at this point. They're just something to be expected whenever I say anything that the masses disagree with. At the same time, the downvotes are ample enough to make it seem likely that I'd be fighting an uphill battle if I wanted to change the culture …
/r/MensRights17/05/18 07:10 PM
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Full of unpleasant, unwarranted, and unconstructive venom towards anyone and everyone who disagrees to the slightest degree with the opinions sanctioned by the majority.
/r/MensRights16/05/18 03:05 PM
0

/r/masculism is leagues better, to take a subreddit on the same exact topic.
/r/MensRights16/05/18 02:38 PM
-14

I've been subscribed here for years, but rarely post because of how toxic this sub is.
/r/MensRights16/05/18 10:13 AM
-31

How is this a "men's rights" issue and not an issue with a single individual?
/r/MensRights16/05/18 03:00 AM
-1

I find that hard to believe. Could you cite the law that you think would apply? This U. K. government website says A Hate Incident is any incident which the victim, or anyone else, thinks is based on someones prejudice towards them because of their race, religion, sexual orientation, disability or because they are transgender. Sex is not even one of the categories listed. Further, it says Not all hate incidents will amount to criminal offences, but those that do become hate crimes. The Associati…
/r/MensRights08/03/17 05:29 PM
4

"Hate crime"? Seriously? Two absurdities don't make something rational. The "gender pay gap" is bogus, and price discrimination is not a hate crime.
/r/MensRights08/03/17 02:45 PM
2

This is just economics. From an actuary's point of view, it's cheaper to insure women than to insure young men.
/r/MensRights20/07/16 01:46 PM
1

She walked right into it.
/r/MensRights12/07/16 09:53 PM
1

The shocking thing to me is that a lot of the people harassing him were men.
/r/MensRights23/11/15 02:25 PM
2

They tolerate that sort of inane behavior? Did you mean insane? It's a lot worse than inane, IMO.
/r/MensRights23/11/15 10:52 AM
2

That it is.
/r/MensRights07/07/15 06:41 PM
10

I've always liked Megan Mcardle's writing. She's a very clear and levelheaded thinker. Good to see her taking this issue on.
/r/MensRights07/07/15 06:15 PM
3

I mean, what in the Almighty fuck (a) possessed someone to bring charges on something like that Read the article if you're going to comment on it. The situation described was a hypothetical.
/r/MensRights07/07/15 06:14 PM
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they throw around terms like "mansplaining" ...though of course any gendered words in the English language referring to women, especially if there's anything negative about the connotation are the repressive hand of the Patriarchy shaping our culture.
/r/MensRights11/06/15 03:47 PM
1

Well, maybe you think I'm missing something, but as I read it, this post is presenting something that's supposed to look like an injustice to men, but when you look closer, it's nothing of the sort.
/r/MensRights08/06/15 11:58 PM
2

even though women account for over 40% of DUI's. I don't know where you are pulling this statistic from, but it's not from the article, and it doesn't fit with the article's numbers. If 23% of the people pulled over for testing are women and 7% of those fail the test and 77% are men and 10% of those fail the test then women account for 23% of people pulled over for breath testing but only 18% of people failing the test after being pulled over.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 02:09 AM
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Women drivers account for just 23% of all roadside breath tests, yet 7% of women failed the breathalyser in the year to August compared to 10% of men. In other words, even though they pull over more men than women, they're more often right about the men than they are about the women. If they were pulling over innocent men as a result of bias, one would expect the opposite to be the case. Each silly post like this one contributes a tiny bit to discrediting the MR movement in general and distracts…
/r/MensRights03/06/15 07:46 PM
4

Self-reporting is a very problematic way to conduct a study.
/r/MensRights03/06/15 07:04 PM
1

If this is acceptable then you, and all of its supporters must accept the social consequences for when the opposite happens. I'm not sure what you're talking about. What do you mean by "the opposite" and its social consequences?
/r/MensRights08/02/15 04:25 AM
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Geez, the ad is meant to promote the idea that "plus-sized women" can be sexy by showing one being ogled by men who are clearly sexy by more traditional standards. What you're calling a double standard is actually the whole point of the ad.
/r/MensRights06/02/15 04:31 AM
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Sometimes a five - dollar word gives you more precision in one word than 6 or 7 one-dollar words. Sure, sometimes. If you want a precise statement, but at the same time don't want to be seen as running on at the mouth, you can usually find a multi-syllable word to replace several words in a phrase, and shorten your statement without losing precision. OK—but you know what? That paragraph reads fine to me, whereas your last one came off (to me) as affected. I like to choose my words carefully too,…
/r/MensRights15/01/15 07:31 PM
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When one is striving for linguistic precision, but simultaneously wishing to not be perceived as nauseatingly verbose, it is usually an increase in syllables that allows the reduction of total word count without a loss of acute definition. Wait—are you trying to say the above paragraph demonstrates its own point? How about: When someone wants to be precise without being sounding wordy, he usually uses longer words, to reduce his total word count. I think that says effectively the same thing with…
/r/MensRights15/01/15 12:47 PM
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Actual headline: "Boys should be encouraged to play with dolls". As quoted here: "Boys should be made to play with dolls". "Made to" and "encouraged to" mean two different things. Is there any reason for editing the headline other than to sensationalize this by making the suggestion sound more outrageous than it was?
/r/MensRights13/01/15 11:28 PM
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Er, I doubt that, but in any case it's beside the point. We're talking about a thwack, not assault with a deadly weapon.
/r/MensRights25/11/14 12:42 PM
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If the genders had been reversed he would have also spent 2 nights in jail. It is only news because the perpetrator is female. No, it would be news in either case. 2 nights in jail for hitting someone with a newspaper is ridiculous.
/r/MensRights25/11/14 05:51 AM
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
/r/MensRights08/09/14 11:57 PM
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You do write a bit artificially, you know. You habitually use bigger words than the occasion calls for, whose connotations don't really fit with what you're saying. For example, you call yourself an "erudite" power lifter. "Erudite" is (quoting Google's dictionary here:) "having or showing great knowledge or learning". It's a lot more than just "educated". It's a rather boastful sort of thing to say about oneself, and its a strange adjective to apply to "power lifter". You write much more formal…
/r/MensRights08/09/14 10:39 PM
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Wait—are you saying you know he's actually a pedo, or the fact that someone tried to frame him for that is proof that he must be? Because the latter is a majorly screwy way to think, IMHO.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 06:40 PM
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Violence, any violence in a domestic capacity, is wrong. No matter how major or minor. Well, I disagree. I mean, I do agree that any level of violence is wrong, but I don't agree "no matter how major or minor". I think that the level of harm done does make a difference, and something that doesn't really inflict harm is the sort of thing that you swallow and deal with yourself. Police shouldn't be involved in domestic issues unless there's actually an imminent threat to someone.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 06:39 PM
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She's kinda psychotic and he should leave her, but the violence in this video was pretty minor.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 03:49 PM
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What?
/r/MensRights22/08/14 03:39 PM
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I'll admit it's more conciliatory than it needed to be.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 06:25 AM
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The only male specific terms I can think of are like tradesman, linesman, salesman. Those aren't male-specific terms. "-man" in that context means person, just like the "-man" of "human" and "woman".
/r/MensRights20/06/14 03:36 PM
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“The state will protect any potential perpetrators more than they will any potential victims.” I think it's problematic that people frame this as potential perpetrator/potential innocent on the one hand vs. potential victim/potential innocent on the other. Accusing an innocent man of a serious crime is not an innocent thing to do. If an accusation is false, then the accuser is the perpetrator and the accused is the victim.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 02:57 PM
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and I'll see it and be like, please don't! That's a violation. I don't actually like that stuff. That's not apologizing.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 02:51 PM
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Thank you for the sources.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 08:18 PM
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OK, I can buy that. Still, considering how fraught this entire issue is, and how hard it is to come up with incontrovertible statistics to support one side or another (e.g. what do you count as assault? How do you assign blame? Where do you draw your data from? How do you estimate unreported assaults? etc.), I think the straighter and easier path to fighting men's—or anyone's—problems is to address them on their own merits, rather than tying them to someone else's. If a societal view of male-fem…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 07:26 PM
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Go back to StormFront.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 07:12 PM
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One's opinion on circumcision is a viewpoint. One's opinion on feminism is a viewpoint. Don't pretend that this subreddit is receptive to, or even tolerant of, differing viewpoints on these subjects. Additionally, even if someone is wrong about a matter of fact, hostility is usually unproductive—but in any case, what "matters of fact" do you have in mind? That "women shout comments at men...just as much" as men do at women (which is how I read Furch's comment, though I see now that it's a little…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 07:10 PM
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I hear you. And I'm all for raising awareness of harassment of men, but I still don't think it's productive to insist on tying it to direct comparisons with harassment of women. Better, IMO, to say that harassment is wrong and should be discouraged, regardless of who's doing it.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 07:01 PM
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Holy shit. Isn't this a discussion about how bullying and harassing men should be taken seriously? Yes, and my point is that to have things taken seriously, it's better not to overstate one's case. And then he tells you to get out of the subreddit because of where you've posted before. Well, for one thing, I don't think that posting in one place ought to preclude anyone from posting in another, unless your goal is to create an echo chamber. But in any case, I have no idea what he was talking abo…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 06:47 PM
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I'm not dismissing your experience. I guess I'm just saying that mine hasn't been that way (e.g. I haven't ever been cat-called at in the street, though women that I know have), and judging from the experiences I have (including hearing other people talk about theirs), my impression is that this affects women more than men. I could be wrong. Anyhow, why don't you post to #everydaysexism when a woman gropes you? It seems to me that if many men did that, that would be the best way of subverting th…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 03:18 PM
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OK, let's be honest: unless someone can cite a study on this subject, none of us have facts to cite beyond our impressions from personal experience. In the absence of something stronger, that's a valid thing to talk about, as long as it's not misrepresented. But what bothers me about this subreddit is the constant hostility directed at anyone who doesn't buy into every aspect of its default viewpoint. I'm not a feminist. I believe that men's rights need advocation, which is why I subscribe to th…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 02:51 PM
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Woman do shout comments at men all the time. They do, but not nearly as often as the other way around, in my experience. I also see that you often post on feminist sites. Are you lost? What are you talking about?
/r/MensRights09/06/14 02:41 PM
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Women shout comments at men, women assault men just as much. I don't believe this is true. It's also beside the point of men's rights, as I see them. It's a shame that some men act boorishly towards women. It's also a shame that, for instance, family courts often discriminate against men. I don't see why advocating for men's rights has to mean asserting that every single problem that women claim to particularly affect them is factitious.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 01:50 PM
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I dunno, wasn't sure. His point wasn't very explicit. Why was it such a big deal that I asked?
/r/MensRights22/05/14 03:09 PM
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Are you suggesting that that's the etymology of the term? Because it's not.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 07:18 AM
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I really don't see the problem with the first two panels of this. You can believe in equality while devoting your energy on the problems of a particular group. Don't we do just that? The second two panels have both characters acting a little obnoxious, IMO.
/r/MensRights14/05/14 01:12 PM
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You know, things like this actually don't bother me too much, because the comments are so off-the-wall crazy that I can't imagine these people as anything more than a lunatic fringe.
/r/MensRights29/04/14 04:14 AM
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When I read the title, I actually thought that the first part ('men are better able to adjust to unusual situations') was serious, and it made sense to me because I'd actually read a paper summarizing research about the GRE Math test that seemed to say something similar: Most studies find that ... men outperform women most consistently at problems requiring unconventional use of mathematical knowledge.... [W]omen tend to solve mathematics problems the way they have been taught to solve such prob…
/r/MensRights04/04/14 02:55 PM
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Seems people are just blindly upvoting and downvoting without any discussion. And there's the problem with this subreddit in a nutshell (not that there aren't many articulate people who post reasonably, but that there are many anonymous voters who upvote/downvote reflexively).
/r/MensRights01/04/14 08:50 PM
1

If he actually preferred it that way, then of course he could and they'd be at an impasse. But since the only reason he wants to leave the toilet is because he doesn't want to feel bullied into doing something, then he's creating the problem by thinking of this as a power struggle. If he would just think of it as an easy-to-indulge request, this would be a non-issue.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 05:21 PM
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I'm not saying that gender has nothing to do with this: clearly the women in the office care about this and the men don't. I am seriously suggesting that it's not a "gender obligation". That phrase makes it sound like they want him to lower the toilet seat because he's a man. On the contrary, they want everyone to lower the toilet seat, because they prefer it that way.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 04:21 PM
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a) It's not an assumed gender obligation: they want everyone to do it; women and men. b) Insisting that anyone do anything is going to leave a bad taste in his mouth, but requesting something is a different story. If someone asked me to do something for them that was a trivial thing for me, but slightly harder for them—say, if I passed by the coffee machine and their desk on my way to mine—sure, I'd probably do it. c) Why worry about what they would do if the shoe were on the other foot, anyway?…
/r/MensRights01/04/14 03:26 PM
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It takes a second to make them happy, so why not indulge them? You don't have to look at everything as a power struggle.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 02:36 PM
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OP messed up the title.
/r/MensRights01/04/14 02:23 PM
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What if I tell you that I'm Jewish and I'm glad that I was circumcised as a baby? That I would be unhappy had my parents been prevented from having this done to me at a young age. What twisted logic will you come up with for advocating a ban on circumcision in the name of protecting my rights?
/r/MensRights23/03/14 06:12 AM
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Fair point. Still not Christian tradition, but I hadn't read the Wiki article carefully enough to see that the "frozen lake" bit was a departure from the original Greek mythology.
/r/MensRights09/03/14 04:11 AM
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The ancient Greeks were not Christian.
/r/MensRights07/03/14 12:58 PM
1

OK, your first source does show that it's apparently a painful procedure for the infant. However, the pain is short-lived (as I already said, babies stop crying shortly after the operation. I have witnessed this myself, and here is a link with more eyewitness testimony to that) and can be addressed by administering anesthetic before the operation. I was circumcised as an infant, myself. I don't feel that a cruelty was perpetrated on me. Isn't it presumptuous of others to tell me otherwise? All t…
/r/MensRights27/01/14 01:04 AM
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They stop crying and never cry about it again. Or remember it when they grow up.
/r/MensRights26/01/14 05:46 AM
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Having seen a recorded circumcision operation, no, I don't think it's hyperbole. I've seen more than one live, and yes it is. The infant cries for a minute or two and that is the end of it.
/r/MensRights26/01/14 12:34 AM
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To hell with you and your superior attitude. You don't get to be the judge of what people want to read and what they don't. You used a ludicrously inaccurate characterization ("appalling cruelty") of an operation that the baby feels for no more than a couple of minutes, and I called you out on it.
/r/MensRights26/01/14 12:32 AM
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Oh, I'm not advocating that circumcising children should be society's default—on the contrary, I'd agree with you that it probably shouldn't be. I'm simply arguing that it shouldn't be outlawed. There ought to be a much higher threshold for criminalizing an act than for simply not promoting it.
/r/MensRights24/01/14 08:49 PM
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Loss of sensation. Its quite obvious, stop asking loaded questions. It's not obvious to me, and I don't categorize diminished sensation as "unhealthy". I define "healthy" as "not detrimental to a person's health", and I was the one who used the word originally, so instead of fighting over semantics, let's just clarify what each other mean and move on. We don't need an appendis, so why not start cutting every newborn open and get it done while its still in the hospital? I understand your point. B…
/r/MensRights24/01/14 08:21 PM
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So it does not cause significant pain apart from the significant pain it causes; pain on par with that which would result from some of our most well known forms of torture. In this case, the peeling of the foreskin is comparable to nail pulling, the excision compared to stripping the skin of the fingers etc. OK, so you're making the argument that the pain of the circumcision itself is significant [enough to be grounds for outlawing it, presumably]. I disagree. Your comparisons to "our most well …
/r/MensRights24/01/14 08:07 PM
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lead perfectly healthy sex lives, But they do not. How do you define "healthy" that you deny this? Circumcised sex is surely not detrimental to a person's health (if anything, it may confer slight health benefits, which is why it was common practice for so long). and by and large do not feel themselves to be diminished by the operation. because they don't know any better Nonetheless. I can understand why you oppose circumcision on the grounds that it deprives someone of potential pleasure that h…
/r/MensRights24/01/14 07:48 PM
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OK, this is taking it too far. People who were circumcised as infants do not know the feeling of being uncircumcised, lead perfectly healthy sex lives, and by and large do not feel themselves to be diminished by the operation. This is not an argument against it being cruel. Sure it is: cruel: "willfully or knowingly causing pain or distress to others". Circumcision surely does not cause significant pain to others (the pain of the operation itself is momentary, to an infant), and while it may cau…
/r/MensRights24/01/14 07:39 PM
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appallingly cruel religious practices OK, this is taking it too far. People who were circumcised as infants do not know the feeling of being uncircumcised, lead perfectly healthy sex lives, and by and large do not feel themselves to be diminished by the operation. The act of sex is still pleasurable to them. Calling it "appallingly cruel" to arguably deprive someone of a measure of increased sexual pleasure is appallingly hyperbolic, in my book.
/r/MensRights24/01/14 06:01 PM
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I honestly don't understand how these things happen. How does someone just sit and allow someone else to stuff a lit cigarette up his nose or any of the other things mentioned? Was she simply strong enough to physically overpower him, or is there some psychological reason a person might allow himself to be victimised?
/r/MensRights26/11/13 04:24 PM
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If "finesse" means "lack of power", sure. If it means greater use of skill, then...no. The shots in men's tennis are placed with at least as much accuracy as the shots in the women's division. In boxing and MMA, in the highest divisions (where there's effectively no weight class), sure, raw power may sometimes triumph over skill, but in any competive division where the participants are of roughly equal sizes, skill is needed as well as power. I'm not such a boxing/MMA fan, but I've followed tenn…
/r/MensRights04/09/13 04:07 PM
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I think you don't know what you're talking about. Unless you can explain what the word "finesse" means to you.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 07:59 AM
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I agree that the work should be properly attributed, but didn't find that the pictures added much to the text here, for me. I was actually disappointed to think this was by Watterson (whose work I admire), and relieved to find that it wasn't.
/r/MensRights28/08/13 02:13 PM
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Is it ok to have sex with all drunk women? No Is it OK to have sex with drunk women who say "no"? No. Is it OK to have sex with drunk women who say "yes"? I would say yes. Since when does being drunk mean that you have no responsibility for your actions? I know it's an overused analogy, but if we can expect a drunk person to have enough responsibility not to get into a car and drive, we can also expect her to have enough responsibility not to say "yes" when she means "no".
/r/MensRights21/08/13 12:34 PM
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I really don't see this as a big deal. "You write like a girl" is a compliment, maybe. "You throw like a girl" is an insult. There are positive and negative stereotypes about both men and women, and they're usually based on a grain of truth or they wouldn't exist. As long as people don't start thinking that stereotypes are absolute truths, I don't really see the harm in having them around. I can see why other people do see harm in stereotypes, but if that's the sort of thing you care about, then…
/r/MensRights14/08/13 11:22 PM
1

I'll agree with you there.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 02:14 PM
1

I agree; I just feel that the equality should come in the form of a gender-blind "right to hire" rather than a gender-blind "right to be hired".
/r/MensRights19/07/13 02:02 PM
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OK, that's a fair point.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 11:55 AM
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I hate this pervasive liberal idea that discrimination needs to be justified. I have the libertarian notion that hiring is a personal decision and personal decisions should be discretionary.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 11:42 AM
2

Parade your pride in equality, and cling to your closet hates. Ooh, I like that! Great prosody.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 10:02 AM
1

If 10 women are legitimately raped, but only 1 legitimate rape victim reports the rape to police than 9 rapist will not be charged and go free. Not the case. I read a very detailed breakdown of two studies on a feminist site (I think the post was titled "meet the predators"). The vast majority of rapes of women are committed by recidivists who commit an average of 7 rapes. But wait—doesn't this undermine the original point of the video you linked? That video assumed a one-to-one correspondence b…
/r/MensRights17/07/13 09:49 AM
1

but mah patriarchy and rape society, poor wymyn are getting raped and murdered out there ugh, I hate this sort of post when I see it on SRS and I don't like it any better seeing it here.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 09:29 AM
1

or knew in retrospect, possibly.
/r/MensRights17/07/13 09:22 AM
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The injustice is that he needed to be "saved" from a groundless allegation. How could he have been convicted without evidence in the first place?
/r/MensRights04/07/13 05:46 PM
1

your religious Christian girlfriend" is a "whole group of people" now? Generic "you" applies equally to anyone; thus generic "your religious Christian girlfriend" applies to any religious Christian who is someone's girlfriend. Yes, that is a whole group of people. Anything else I can help you with?
/r/MensRights08/05/13 09:35 PM
1

I don't see that it requires being informed to think, "I would never have let him touch me that way if he hadn't hidden the truth from me" → "he had no right to touch me that way" → "he raped me".
/r/MensRights08/05/13 09:15 PM
0

Belief in a higher power should be classified as a mental illness. Belief that you know better than many of the wisest people who ever lived is classified as a mental illness. If you think that belief in the non-existence of a higher power is a shred less dogmatic than belief in its existence, go ahead and pat yourself on the back, but all that really means is that the need to believe has rendered you even more delusional than most.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 07:23 PM
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they don't deserve any respect "Who is respected? He who treats others with respect." —Ben Zoma
/r/MensRights08/05/13 07:16 PM
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Hardly. I'm not a religious Christian; I just think that people should stand up for each other.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 04:18 PM
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Well, that's probably a big chunk of her motivation, I agree, but do you really think it's part of her conscious mindset? If you're right...wow.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 04:16 PM
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Well, there's a real concept of fraud, which amounts to the idea that consent obtained by deceiving someone about relevant facts is not a legitimate form of consent. Saying "I was defrauded" is different from merely regretting something, because it's saying that you would never have originally consented, had the other party not misinformed you. But again, I'm not on her side here, just trying to imagine how she sees it. I think it's pretty awful to start crying "rape" in any situation but actual…
/r/MensRights08/05/13 03:02 PM
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sure, I guess, if jokes don't have to be funny
/r/MensRights08/05/13 02:52 PM
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I'd speculate that this is what's going on in her head: 1) "Getting to second base" is sexual in nature (though not actual sex). 2) She would never have consented to anything sexual with someone whom she knew to be possibly gay. 3) Ergo, in taking her to second base while withholding the information that he was possibly gay, OP was inducing her to do something sexual without legitimate consent. She calls this "rape". To be clear, I'm not on her side here, but that's what I'd guess her side is.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 02:32 PM
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Way to make generalized assumptions about a whole group of people from an anecdote about one.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 02:22 PM
4

This whole affair is so...messed up. I mean, I'll admit there's a certain satisfaction in seeing her attempts to get other people in trouble backfire in her face, but I think a much better resolution to this situation would have been for everyone to keep their jobs, not for everyone to lose them.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 10:11 PM
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I really don't see this as being about technology. The people involved happen to work in the technology industry, but that's an incidental detail. People are saying things like "boycott SendGrid" but no one's saying "boycott the technology industry" or "this shows that the technology industry has serious problems to address"; that would be absurd. Either way, instead of speculating, why not ask the mods of /r/technology why they removed the posts?
/r/MensRights21/03/13 02:43 PM
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"It is the language of men". What hogwash. It's the language of crude people who find nothing better than shock value to gain them attention. Anyway, the entire extract was so absurdly over the top that I have trouble imagining anyone who takes it seriously, although no doubt some exist.
/r/MensRights22/02/13 01:34 AM
2

OK, that makes sense. I actually wasn't sure whether you meant "bogus" in the slangy sense of "completely unjustified" or "effective"/de facto (I was leaning towards the former). Thanks for clarifying.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 05:48 PM
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Ersatz? edit: not sure what a downvote without a comment means, so I'll just make myself clearer: ersatz refers to an artificial substitute for a natural product. It often has the connotation of "inferior". In any case, it doesn't seem to work in this context.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 02:49 PM
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I agree that the punishment was far too light. Just correcting your implication (as I read it) that she wasn't punished at all.
/r/MensRights08/02/13 08:20 PM
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In the first place, a single story about a woman who killed her own mother and was released proves nothing about a double standard. Here's a woman who is serving life for the same offense and a man who was released even sooner than the woman in the OP (and went on to kill again). What does any of this prove? In the second place, even if the OP had shown evidence of some sort of double standard, painting this as a "men's rights" issue implies that the problem is that the rights of men are being v…
/r/MensRights08/02/13 03:41 PM
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Light punishment? She went free! After four years imprisonment.
/r/MensRights08/02/13 03:31 PM
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This has literally nothing to do with men's rights. No men are involved in this story (discounting the forensic psychiatrist).
/r/MensRights08/02/13 05:35 AM
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The problem is that someone can be sent to jail in the first place on the word of a single accuser.
/r/MensRights27/01/13 03:26 AM
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All right, I take the point.
/r/MensRights18/01/13 02:19 PM
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I mean, yes, it does say "part of the problem is that male artists greatly outnumber female artists in the industry", so the thread's title is close to being correct, literally speaking. But the main thrust of the article is not that fewer men should work as comic artists, but that artists should depict women in more realistic poses. E.g. Hurley says her goal is not to ban attractive women from book covers but to encourage publishers to include a wider variety of female characters
/r/MensRights18/01/13 02:06 PM
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Misleading title: the article wasn't about the number of men working as sci-fi artists; it was about the way women tend to be depicted on the covers.
/r/MensRights18/01/13 01:49 PM
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So, you feel it's OK and acceptable to be a cunt like her and there be no consequences. Good to know. He did the right thing dumping her. If you read my post, I didn't say that he shouldn't have dumped her. Just that he could have been gentler. Also, what was up with your first reply? Bad mood?
/r/MensRights17/01/13 03:09 AM
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his dead dad I guess I skimmed over the "dead" part when I read the post the first time, but that does make her behavior come off a lot worse. That does sort of change how I feel about it. Oh well, whatever; never mind.
/r/MensRights16/01/13 11:20 PM
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Wow, no wonder so many people think MensRights is a hate group.
/r/MensRights16/01/13 11:10 PM
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Gee, am I the only one who feels bad for the girl? All the stuff about "shitlords" was infuriating, of course, but everyone has their quirks and fights happen in any relationship. And she did feel bad about setting him off that way and she apologized for blowing up and she tried to be there for him. I'm not saying it's a bad thing that the relationship ended—it probably would have broken down sooner or later—but he didn't have to be so cruel about the way he ended it.
/r/MensRights16/01/13 06:17 PM
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It's not reasonable to involve the law on every occasion. Regardless of who is attacking whom, if a conflict can be resolved without involving the law, it's better to do it that way, IMO. By the same token, if a child were attacking you, would you call the police to assist you, or would you just fend it off until its parents dragged it away? Of course the woman was an adult, and responsible for her actions, but my point is that she wasn't posing him any real threat, so there's no need to prosecu…
/r/MensRights15/01/13 05:16 PM
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I don't see what the big deal is. Nobody cared because they knew he could defend himself, which he did. If people had been criticizing him for defending himself, that would be an issue, but that's not what happened.
/r/MensRights15/01/13 09:59 AM
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dyke.. Look it up in the dictionary. Here you go Slang: Disparaging and Offensive I couldn't care less whether you use the word, but claiming that it's just a normal conversational word that's not meant to be offensive is either ignorant or disingenuous.
/r/MensRights01/01/13 06:43 AM
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Reducing the pool when men make up more of the qualified candidates will disproportionately change reduce the number of males. If males make up x% of the qualified candidates, then in a fair system they will be represented in that proportion, whatever the size of the pool. I don't see how you arrive at the conclusion that fairness demands that the pool be a particular size. Let me put it a different way: imagine that for whatever reason the pool of available scholarships were increased--say, a b…
/r/MensRights12/12/12 04:46 PM
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By reducing the total number of qualified candidates, it will squeeze men out more disproportionately Only if men are disproportionately represented now for reasons unrelated to merit. As long as the competition is fair, I don't see how increasing or reducing it is unfair to one gender or another.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 01:24 PM
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Yeah, after I typed that, I thought about about editing "more than" to "and not", but I figured it's still technically true so not worth an edit.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 01:22 PM
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Anything that effects one gender affects the other in the opposite way. What on earth are you talking about? OK, take breast cancer, which affects women much more than it does men, or prostate cancer, which affects men much more than it does women.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 06:00 AM
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I read the whole article and I don't see where it advocates squeezing men out of scientific positions in favor of women.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 04:45 AM
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Wait: she asks them to please leave, and then blames them for demanding refunds because they didn't have to listen to her? What an interesting piece of reasoning...
/r/MensRights12/12/12 04:36 AM
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Sheesh, it's a joke, isn't it? Who the heck cares? PS- In case you're wondering what I'm doing reading r/Men'sRights if that's how I feel, I want to clarify. I read this subreddit because it highlights a lot of serious men's rights issues, like custody bias in family courts, false rape accusations, etc. But it's also filled with posts like this one, which seem IMHO to make mountains out of molehills.
/r/MensRights11/12/12 12:15 PM
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The question isn't, "Why not reverse the roles?"—it's, "Why assign the roles in the first place?" The simpler question would have been, "Should the death penalty be applied to people convicted of murder?" Asking about the specific case of men murdering women implies that there might be stronger grounds for applying the death penalty in those cases than in other cases of murder.
/r/MensRights01/12/12 10:29 PM
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It's a very specific question thus implying something about the categories that were excluded
/r/MensRights30/11/12 06:43 PM
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Get to your point already.
/r/MensRights29/11/12 08:06 AM
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Well, a grossly offensive comment is the example in the OP.
/r/MensRights29/11/12 07:25 AM
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Slaps in the face are sometimes warranted, whatever one's sex.
/r/MensRights28/11/12 01:07 AM
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I think your last post did go through. I read it. It was a good post. :-) Meanwhile, we've been typing at the same time and crossposting a bit, so I'm not going to write a long response this time. I'll just say that everything you've said sounds reasonable to me, and if we're disagreeing on something it's probably on whether the quoted feminists were saying the same thing as you are. In my previous post, I explained why their words didn't read that way to me.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 12:05 AM
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IMO, challenging and confronting discrimination is a good means of support and advocacy. And I think that, at its heart, there's an argument to be made that challenging the compartmentalizing of manhood is pivotal, as that kind of discrimination affects all men. It's necessary to engage the enormously varied experiences and lives of men. You make a reasonable case—but I maintain that if you examine the original quotation that we've been discussing, you'll see that the described vision of a Men's…
/r/MensRights13/11/12 11:58 PM
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I just figure, if you're setting up a "Men's Centre", make sure it's inclusive of all men right off the bat. Nothing objectionable about that, but if you reread the statement directly quoted from the Women's Center, I think you'll find that it implies that the sole purpose of the Men's Center they would support (what "the centre were about") would be to challenge and confront discrimination. Nothing to do with "support and advocacy".
/r/MensRights13/11/12 11:09 PM
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Challenging and confronting homophobia would make a men's centre more inclusive, as it would promote the acceptance of gay men as real men. It would make a men's center more inclusive iff the center had any purpose other than challenging and confronting homophobia. But the direct quotation describes the center's "mission statement, vision, and mandate" as being "about challenging popular conceptions about masculinity, confronting homophobia, sexism, racism, classism, and ability issues". That's …
/r/MensRights13/11/12 11:02 PM
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Read the quote again: it says nothing about the men's center being inclusive to homosexuals or other minorities, or of dealing with any "men's issues" other than bigotry (which apparently is regarded as specifically a men's issue). It describes a mission statement of "challenging" and "confronting" homophobia, etc. "Challenge" and "confrontation" are more or less the opposite of "inclusivity". Reads to me like the paraphrase is pretty accurate.
/r/MensRights13/11/12 07:48 PM
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I'd probably feel some suffering from that, in the sense of reduced ability to do things (like balance) that everyone around me can do, though I wouldn't remember the original pain. But my point is, who exactly are you sticking up for? If I don't have a problem with my circumcision, I don't need an advocate.
/r/MensRights11/11/12 01:38 PM
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It seems like an uphill battle to just get basic awareness that men can and do suffer. As a male who was circumcised as an infant, I've never felt any suffering from that.
/r/MensRights11/11/12 05:01 AM
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Men's rights? What a load of bollocks. So you don't think men have rights? Or you don't think that their rights are ever infringed on?
/r/MensRights15/10/12 02:12 PM
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Honestly, it should be cool to discriminate, in either direction. You should be free to hire whomever you like for whatever reason you like. What business is it of anyone's else?
/r/MensRights14/09/12 12:51 AM
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However, it's possible to rapidly switch focus back and forth between one thing and another. Some people are better at this than others.
/r/MensRights14/09/12 12:50 AM
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I'm aware of that. Her society isn't. Honestly, had you noticed that this story was from Australia when you made your comment?
/r/MensRights30/08/12 02:29 PM
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Australia is an East Asian society? News to me.
/r/MensRights29/08/12 11:30 AM
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I fully agree that there are reasons to reserve judgment. I just don't agree that reserving judgment = dismissing someone's credentials out of hand without any evidence but one's beliefs.
/r/MensRights08/08/12 11:04 PM
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I'm not defending the studies. I haven't seen them either, and I don't even know whether any/all of them were published in a journal at all. I'm just saying that without actually seeing them, we shouldn't go further than saying, "They could be flawed, and we'd like to know more about how these studies were conducted before putting our faith in them". Dismissing 3 studies and the reputed expertise of the State's witness out of hand, on the basis of "we haven't looked at these studies, but if they…
/r/MensRights08/08/12 10:06 PM
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It's called "false equivalence", as I said. Perhaps my argument was a false equivalence, but I think that you're going too far when you say "the argument you make can have no ramification on the truth-value of the argument to which you responded". My point was that most punctuation marks express a certain meaning (or range of possible meanings), which is always the same, and we use them to express that meaning whether or not that meaning is obvious; if "/s" is the way to express an ironic tone, …
/r/MensRights08/08/12 07:23 PM
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But as far as I know, equivocation isn't false equivalence, but "an equivocal, ambiguous expression". You may consider my argument fallacious, but it wasn't ambiguous.
/r/MensRights08/08/12 06:38 PM
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"'Just the place for a Snark!', the Bellman cried"
/r/MensRights08/08/12 06:29 PM
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I'd welcome seeing research like that: I wonder how reliable those studies were as well. In any case it appalls me to read about cases where a man is put behind bars on the word of a single accuser, no matter who that accuser is. I simply think that overstating one's case tends to weaken it and putting sneer quotes around the word 'expert' when the woman in question is clearly acquainted with the literature in the field and was citing three studies is overstating one's case.
/r/MensRights08/08/12 06:22 PM
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I chose an appropriate username—but I must admit I don't see how that particular post is an equivocation. A sophistication, did you mean?
/r/MensRights08/08/12 06:12 PM
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This is buying into the feminist definition of rape that so many other threads on r/MensRights criticize. It's hardly fair to go along with something and then say, "On the inside I didn't want it, so that was rape!"
/r/MensRights08/08/12 01:57 PM
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The 'expert' cited three studies—on what grounds are you impugning her? Edit: and now people are downvoting this post without responding to it. I promise I don't care about the downvotes, but IMO this sort of "I know you're wrong, but I can't back it up" attitude tends to delegitimize one's position. (That said, I don't think the accuser's word should ever be enough to convict someone.)
/r/MensRights08/08/12 01:49 PM
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Sometimes when something is obviously sarcasm, and I see the /s after it, I instinctively flip it back to serious. When a sentence is obviously over, and you see the period after it, do you instinctively assume the sentence really goes on؟
/r/MensRights08/08/12 01:45 PM
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What a total asshole. Please don't listen to people like this, they're everywhere, they get a kick out of hurting people online. Ignore. These parts of your post I approve. In real life he's probably a little pussy that gets his ass beaten everyday. This part sounds exactly like the original PM.
/r/MensRights02/08/12 07:40 AM
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Do all forums allow HTML characters, though? Lots of them strip out the tags.
/r/MensRights20/07/12 04:52 AM
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Upvoted for going the extra mile to indent.
/r/MensRights20/07/12 04:13 AM
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