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Blackpill DiscussionTheForspokenOne/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 04:23 PM
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The standards for women has completely plummeted in modern day society thanks to white knights and simps feeding their egos. This inflated sense of value they receive make them believe that they are entitled to chad. This is why I partly blame men for creating this problematic dating culture since they directly feed and encourage this behavior from women.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 06:47 AM
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Society simply needs expendables that can be discarded at any moment deemed necessary. Society would not function properly if every man learns the truth and becomes black pilled. Hence why the majority of society gaslight the hell outta men via blue pill talking points. Men are already steadily dropping out of the workforce at an alarming rate. Imagine the state of our society if even more men completely clocks out of the workforce. Society needs sub5 guys to be the primary work horse in order f…
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 02:06 AM
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I said this before, but this is exactly why the entire concepts of “femcels” is such BS. There’s no such things as femcels when an landwhale has arguably more SMV than a CHAD in today’s society. There’s only females who aren’t attracted to their looksmatch and think they are entitled to chad.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 05:27 PM
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Funny enough that going outside has only further confirmed the black pill for me. Recently I been keeping simple observation of every couple on my campus. Not only is the guy generally very attractive, they usually also tower over their partners by a large margin. Before any blue piller claim that my observations are skewed by my confirmation bias, I’ll admit that there were a few exceptions. There were generally a few guys, about 1 out of every 10 couple where I’ll question how the dude secured…
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 06:41 AM
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But incels remains the biggest threat to woman am I right? 🤦‍♂️ Society talks about violence against woman as if we are the ones doing it instead of the man they chosen for their “amazing and loving personality” as seen in the video.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 06:34 AM
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I’ll rather not be a betabuxer, I refuse to pay for literal scraps that Chad/Chadlite didn’t want. There is absolutely no way you truly believe that a dead bedroom is better than no bedroom. Both scenarios ends with no sex, but one causes you to have less assets, and it’s sure as hell not the latter option.
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 01:45 PM
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They are struggling, they just choose to ignore it. It seems that you forgot that betabuxers exist and that the majority of marriages end up in r/DeadBedrooms due to lack of physical attraction and the women settling for the pure purpose of financial security. Would you define that as “not struggling” and “living life” in this society? We all live under the same principles and laws of attraction but viewed through different lenses. Blue pillers are wearing clown lenses that covers the uncomforta…
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 04:54 AM
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And unfortunately as I stated, we can’t have everything we desire in life. You are still in a better situation than 90% of guys who don’t even have the luxury of getting with someone to begin with.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 09:56 PM
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As a woman if you truly can’t get any likes/matches, then you objectively have to be near the bottom 0.01% of physical appearance. You have to be deformed in multiple ways in order for this to be true.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 09:43 PM
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But you was still with the guy correct? And you might be over inflating your “looks level” right now, you can’t all have chad/chadlite. There’s only so many that can be passed around so don’t blame them if they want better after “dumpster diving” after a easy lay.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 09:40 PM
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We can’t have everything we desire in life can we? It’s better to have options than to have no options isn’t it? If you can get with people of the opposite sex, at least be grateful for it. We have guys out here who don’t even have that luxury available.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 09:36 PM
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Somehow missed the “pink pill” tag, but yeah in that case it’s more dependent on the men willing to settle with her. If it’s some chad/chadlite, then obviously your in a similar bracket.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 09:33 PM
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They still desire you by the end of the day regardless of desperation. They might only desire you due to desperation, but that’s still attraction in its basic sense.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 09:27 PM
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An easier way to do this experiment is to literally create a profile on a online dating platform. Results from online dating sites are probably one of the best methods to determine your SMV. If that for some reason doesn’t satisfy your question, feel free to DM. I can offer some plastic surgery advice at most since I actually got some procedures done myself.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 09:22 PM
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A biased assumption based on being realistic and having common sense. The possibility of her earnings the car by having a sugar daddy or running an OF page is way higher than the possibility of her buying it with her own merits that doesn’t include her physical accolades. We can debate to disagree, but deep down we both know that my assumptions will always have a higher likelihood of occurrence. I might not always assume correctly, but I’m sure as hell more correct than you.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 09:11 PM
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And your opinion is based off la la land fairy tales. If anything, your assumption is even more baseless than mines. The only sensible assumption that you brought up that I actually overlooked, was the possibility of a wealthy background, so kudos to you for that. And just for the record, here’s a quick reality check for you: the world isn’t all sunshine and rainbows as you make it out to be.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 08:36 PM
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Statistically speaking with all the observations he made, there’s only 2 realistic possibilities: Either A) Some rich mofo bought it for her Or B) She takes full advantage of her looks and makes bank via OF Yes there’s a “possibility” that she earned the car via other methods, but let’s not disregard common sense and the most realistic possibilities.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 08:14 PM
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This is an observation I made as well, every single time I’m outside and see a couple, the guy always towers over the women. Funny how others tell us to go outside and “touch grass” but doing so just further confirms the black pill.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 08:09 PM
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Ignorance is bliss. This is the primary explanation as to why so many people, especially blue pillers refuse to acknowledge the black pill. They simply can’t handle the truth. Blue pillers will much rather live in utter denial than accept the world for what it is.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 08:06 PM
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Ignorance is bliss. Just reading that post and witnessing OP’s reaction while slowly uncovering the truth was brutal. This is the primary reason why so many people refuse to acknowledge the black pill, they simply can’t handle the truth. They will much rather live in denial than accept the world for what it is.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 07:59 PM
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Wow thxs, after “getting my shit together” I’ll magically turn in a 6ft tall chad with an amazing pERsonality!!! 👍
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 10:50 PM
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And after all this, you still won’t be on the same level as chads/chadlites. ITS OVER 🤣🤣🤣
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 10:44 PM
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Since when was over reliance on science ever a bad thing? Science is primarily the reason why even society even progressed so far. Science is the reason why you are even able to post this in the first place. Are you suggesting that we all go monke mode and go oo oo ah ah?
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 05:45 AM
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Nah bro, women only date the 5’2 balding Indian janitor with an amazing personality! (It’s ovER)
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 04:03 AM
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Women mad at the decreasing amount of orbiters and betabuxers willing to simp for them.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 03:58 AM
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Unless you have a better option for sub5 men, then I think this is the best option that’s available. It’s either this or rotting away in a jail cell somewhere simply because they tried to ask a woman out.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 03:57 AM
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I’m willing to state that CHADS/STACEYS are just a whole different species at this point considering the completely different lives they lead. They live lives that we can only dream of living. It’s almost as we live in 2 different realities despite residing on the same planet. These individuals really need to be labeled as a whole different species. They represent the peak of human evolution and development. They represent “perfection” in the form of a physical human body.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 03:50 AM
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Not that I recommend them, but literally any fucking romance book for women. The male lead/protagonist is always some 6 foot CHAD with the looks of a supermodel. There’s rarely any novels with the sub5 being the male protagonist, and if it dies by any chance, he usually ascends and becomes a CHAD regardless. It’s crazy how the entire women romance book genre is peak evidence supporting the black pill, and their audience unknowingly reads it seeing the cruel reality of it.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 05:27 AM
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Cool, I knew a dude who flew to the sun and back.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 05:20 AM
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Nah bro, he just needs to do personality pushups everyday in the shower with his therapist and he’s good to go 👍
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 10:02 PM
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If you nichemax, you can outcompete other normies depending on the niche. However, you will never be on the same level as chadlites/chads even after nichemaxxing. They are a whole different breed, a completely different species from the rest of us that lives a life that we can only dream about.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 09:37 PM
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It’s truly ovER 😔
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 09:55 PM
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This is exactly why the entire concepts of “femcels” is such BS. There’s no such things as femcels when an landwhale has arguably more SMV than a CHAD in today’s society. There’s only females who aren’t attracted to their looksmatch and think they are entitled to chad.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 06:41 AM
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These idiotic bluepillers think that being average or slightly above average is good enough. You need to be AT LEAST be in the upper echelon of all men in every category to even gain a women’s interest, and that’s not even a guarantee. A CHAD still has lower SMV than their female counterparts which brings in this variable of uncertainty. Due to this uncertainty, even CHAD goes dumpster diving which in turn makes these sub5 chicks think they are entitled to CHAD despite not being remotely in the …
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 06:35 AM
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LET HIM COOK 👏👏👏 I couldn’t agree more with the current hoeinflation which continuously inflates the standards for men. In all likelihood, your rate of self improvement will never exceed the alarming rate of inflation towards the desirability threshold.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 06:18 AM
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Being “incel” doesn’t mean not having dignity ffs. I’ll much rather stay alone than be in a relationship with some 2/10 land-whale that has no attraction towards me. Every woman desires CHAD, they just can’t lock one down and get him to commit so they settle for some betabuxer who’s willing to provide for literal scraps that CHAD didn’t want. I have too much dignity to lower myself on the same level as these delusional blue pulled idiots who’s betabuxxing for star fish sex with a land-whale who …
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 07:24 PM
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It’s ovER before it began frfr 😮‍💨
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 06:12 PM
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An exception only further proves the rule.
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 01:26 PM
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At this height, it’s mostly up to your face.
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 04:49 PM
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They would’ve been arrested by law enforcement on sight after she sees them move even slightly towards her general direction.
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 12:01 AM
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It’s ovER even before it began frfr 😮‍💨
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 11:45 PM
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Cuz it’s over even before it began 😮‍💨
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 04:54 AM
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It never began fr 😮‍💨
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 03:10 AM
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For sure bro! We’re all gonna make it! (It never began)
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 12:37 AM
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He’s using the “CHAD” brand tactical soap. Unfortunately, it’s an extremely exclusive item that can only be obtained at birth. But dw bro, if you shower 10x a day, you will eventually get there too! 👍
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 12:23 AM
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I’m willing to say that 5’10 is the middle ground, it’s definitely not a halo effect but nor is it a falio. It’s probably your face or ethnicity that seals the deal at your height.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 10:41 PM
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He’s betabuxxing for literal scrapes that chad didn’t want, it’s tragic.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 10:36 PM
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The word “awful” in terms of dating has 2 completely different meanings depending on your gender. For men, it means having no options. For women, it means having too much options and having to cherry-pick the top percentile of all pursuers. Such a struggle I know right, must be so hard having to file through these options and look for the best 😔
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 07:45 PM
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No problem sir cuck, I’ll be of service anytime 🫡
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 07:04 PM
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This is genuinely good advice. Unless a woman shows signs of interest, never approach. Chances are if you have to ask what the signals and signs of attractions are, than no one was ever interested in you. The signals are blatantly obvious when women are interested in you.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 07:02 PM
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Absolutely, being black pilled doesn’t mean you can’t get women. It simply means that you understand the importance of physical attraction via appearance. Have you seen some of the chads on the black pill forums especially the looksmax forum? They literally pull more women than any blue pilled cuck over on IncelTears in their entire lifetime. Their success stories after ascension are insane.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 06:55 PM
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I’m never paying someone to give me advice that takes me 5 seconds to Google. How are you paying a complete random to invalidate your OWN life experiences? You really think some random college graduate understands your feelings better than you do despite never being in your shoes? What a fucking cuck. I’ll much rather flush my money down the toilet than pay a “therapist” to gaslight me into believing that everything’s rainbow and sunshine when it’s clearly not.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 06:50 PM
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There are worst fates than being alone. This is one such example. This poor guy here got got chad’s leftovers after her prime years were up. If anything, the “bad boys” literally won in this situation, they got everything they wanted from her prime without committing.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 06:44 PM
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You forgot the part that these women are usually druggies that will do anything for a dose. If anything, this literally supports the black pill. These drug dealers have the lowest morals and represents the trash of society. You really think they have good personalities for social situations outside of drug deals? They are literally criminals who probably have extremely violent tendencies.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 06:40 PM
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Hoeflation. Most women believe they all deserve CHAD despite giving back nothing of value. Their standards are increasing while their value is plummeting. What a clown world we live in.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 05:51 AM
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By improving your looks, that’s how you improve your personality. There’s a well researched effect called the Halo Effect ffs
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 05:48 AM
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Acceptance. That’s the answer, knowing that I’m not purposely deluding myself for the sake of false hope. Some may say that ignorant is bless and I can’t deny that, but I choose to chase after the truth even if it’s dark. It’s just who I am, I refuse to live life like a delusional idiot who took the blue pill and thinks that life is all rainbow and sunshine. The black pill goes both ways, it depends on how you accept it. It can make you bitter and depressed, but yet it can provide tranquility an…
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 05:44 AM
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Nah man you forgot about his amazing personality!
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 05:40 AM
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They like to believe that they stand on a higher moral ground than the rest of us despite being in the same situation. That’s the only coping mechanism they have, believing that they are morally better than the rest of us. It’s some real clown shit seeing how far people are willing to delude themselves into oblivion for the sake of being “morally right” in today’s society.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 06:10 AM
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This is a perfect description of the IncelTears community Half of that community never felt the touch of a women so they virtual signal in hopes of getting with one. They are literally in denial claiming that they aren’t incels despite perfectly representing one. “aT LEaSt I’M nOT aN iNCeL!!!!” - some random IT user in utter denial
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 06:00 AM
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College for sure, you are competing against the best that society has to offer depending on where you attend. There’s even studies that reveals the correlation between wealth/attractiveness of the student body and the prestige of the university itself, this makes perfect sense considering the application process.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 04:06 AM
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An exception only further supports the rule. It’s called an “exception” for a reason
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 07:00 PM
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What bs are you spouting? No one even asked for your “help” lady. Next time please considering shutting the fuck up before you make another idiotic statement or give unwanted advice ffs.
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 07:41 AM
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The stupidity these idiots spout always surprises me. I can’t believe that he praised the traits of a literal serial killer.
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 07:39 AM
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Idk how you got to that conclusion when nobody said anything remotely close to your post, but pop off you delusional monkey and keep making up these false claims.
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/23 05:24 PM
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The dating scene itself won’t change much, it will still be the top percentile of guys monopolizing all the women within the dating market. The rest of us don’t really matter to women.
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/23 05:21 PM
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All them comments and bizarre theories, and yet they all manage to miss the actual answer that is polygamy 🤦‍♂️ I don’t understand how certain individuals can be this delusional. It’s blatantly obvious that a tiny percentile of guys at the top are monopolizing all the available women. Most friends groups you see throughout school/university are literally just harems based around 1-2 chads.
/r/AllPillDebate02/10/23 05:10 PM
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If you have the financial freedom to pay for surgery, why not? Who is there telling you how to spend your disposable income?
/r/AllPillDebate14/08/23 11:25 PM
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Taxes, can’t even avoid that in death.
/r/AllPillDebate14/08/23 11:22 PM
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I’ll assure you that there are guys out here who gave it 110% and still couldn’t fulfill their ultimate desires. I had this same mindset and pushed myself, I founded my own brand at 19 y/o with a net worth of 6 figures that’s expected to clear 7 figures soon. I also own a few luxury cars and my own place at just 20 y/o, check the posts on my profile if you really want visible evidence. I’m probably considered “successful” by many, but I assure you that I haven’t gotten anywhere near my actual de…
/r/AllPillDebate14/08/23 11:21 PM
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It means that I’m willing my to accept whatever comes my way in the future. Sure there’s a preferable outcome I desire, but I want to accept the fact that there’s always a chance it won’t occur. I won’t fight against what the futures holds in store for me, I’ll graciously accept my fate and be at peace with it.
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 12:53 AM
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Honestly you are completely right, don’t know why I took the bait to begin with but at least I got my point across.
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 12:50 AM
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I’m simply stating that I accepted whatever fate holds in store for me. Maybe I’ll find someone else, maybe I won’t. Whatever the final result is, I will graciously accept it and be at peace with it, there’s no need for me to continuously struggle and fight against destiny when I am already insignificant in the grand scheme of the universe. If my fate is to die alone, then so be it.
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 12:41 AM
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I could find my significant other in the future, or I won’t. Whatever the outcome is, I’ll accept it without beating myself about it. Neither you or I will know about my destiny in this world, so I’ll just let it gradually play out.
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 12:24 AM
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Considering that I have befriended several influencers even after having their contracts fall through, sure why not, I believe I can fake it if I really want to. I still talk to and meet up with most of them in a casual friendly day to day basis even if they have nothing to do with my brand. If I can make connections to my staff and influencers with fame, I doubt l would struggle with making connections outside of work. I actually considered selling my share and simply retire very early on, but …
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 12:13 AM
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“Dread it. Run from it. Destiny arrives all the same”
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 12:05 AM
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As I stated in my other response, I have great social skills, if I didn’t, I quite frankly wouldn’t make this far in businesses. I’m also hovering around 15% body fat and take pride in maintaining my health since I have a deep paranoia of my life being cut short for whatever reason. What else do you want me to do? Are you really going to sit here and criticize me when I have probably achieved just as much if not more in life than you?
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 12:05 AM
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I have amazing social skills even if it’s superficial and faked for my own benefits. I speak with hundreds of people each week, ranging from influencers to my employees. I think it’s essentially required for someone in my position to have good networking/social skills. I’m also in peak physical condition, I believe hovering around 15% body fat as of now.
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 12:00 AM
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But increasing my net worth is still self-improvement isn’t it? It’s still considered hard work isn’t it? Let’s not be a hypocrite especially when you claimed that we refuse to work on ourselves and self improve. I don’t see how I based my worth on my wealth if I hate where I’m at. As mentioned, I hate my current circumstances, I hate the fact that my true desire will never be fulfilled despite giving it my all. I don’t need you tell to me to think about it when it’s on my mind every waking seco…
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 11:55 PM
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I stated my current age. I stated that I’m 20 years of age, I been at self-improvement for maybe 3-4 years and still trying my best to improve. The first 2 years of my journey was extremely uneventful, just worked on myself physically and tried my best to gain financial knowledge. It only gained momentum when I co-founded my current brand which gained traction on social media last year.
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 11:36 PM
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“Y’all also refuse to work on yourself” How about we stop with the assumptions? I’ll assure you that there are guys out here who gave it 110% and still couldn’t fulfill their ultimate desires. I had this same mindset and pushed myself, I founded my own brand at 19 y/o with a net worth of 6 figures that’s expected to clear 7 figures soon. I also own a few luxury cars and my own place at just 20 y/o, check the posts on my profile if you really want visible evidence. I’m probably considered “succes…
/r/AllPillDebate17/07/23 11:23 PM
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People love to project their own insecurities. IT is a great example of this, 99% of them are just incels in denial. One glance at their posts and you can immediately tell that they perfectly represent what they speak against. I find entertainment in it as well, whenever people tell me to “touch grass” or “go outside” I just roll over and laugh especially when they call me a “bum” as a insult. It gets even more entertaining when I show them the wealth I amassed as a 20 y/o and how I founded my o…
/r/AllPillDebate14/07/23 11:19 PM
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This is what I observed as well, IT is literally composed of incels in denial.
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 05:00 AM
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I crave intimacy more than anything, sex and any other sexual acts to me is worthless without it. I had my share fair of fun when I first achieved financial success, exclusive parties with influencers, driving a brand new luxury car with a passenger princess, etc, I think you get the point. I’m just tired of all that. I still go to the parties frequently not because I want to, because I need to in order to build more connections for collaborations. I know it sounds really ironic since a lot of p…
/r/AllPillDebate15/06/23 10:07 PM
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I’ll say money doesn’t mean much unless you pass the attractiveness threshold, at most it will give you the position of being a beta provider and nothing else. I co-founded my own brand and near the top 1% for my age bracket (I’m 20 yo) financially speaking. I also have tons of followers on Instagram due to that platform being my brands main social media page for everything. You can even look at my post history if you really want evidence of my statements which many people have doubted before. I…
/r/AllPillDebate15/06/23 05:24 PM
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If you want a recent message, please DM me, in fact I will. I started even before Andrew Tate and his bs hustler university, it’s been nearly 3 years since I graduated from HS as well. Is it really that uncommon/unbelievable that I can obtain this wealth without no expenses?
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 03:57 AM
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I don’t make money off TikTok, click on the link in the post with the rest of the pictures. That has even more messages, if that’s too much for you, I have it here linked. I choose the oldest messages since these contracts have expired, hence why I didn’t blur out the PFP, there’s no harm that can be done to me and my brand even if you find these influencers now by google images. There’s literally people even younger than me making more than I do, I don’t disregard their effort. Link: https://im…
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 03:57 AM
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Woah, that’s a very analytical response towards the end. I’m in the same industry (fashion/accessories) but not flannel shirts, I might actually consider it now that you brought it up 😅 Anyways, thanks for the wishes of success, doing pretty good as of now, but definitely won’t mind coming across more opportunities. I hope the best for you as well 👍
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 02:29 AM
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Yeah no problem, it’s just your stereotypical brand built off TikTok/Instagram, if you use these two platforms, you probably even seen my brand and products since we did go viral with several collaborations a few months prior. It’s honestly funny that you pointed that out since we started off a brand catering towards dudes as our primary demographic, but we realized that our buyers were mostly younger Asian women/women in general, so we completely revamped our motto/site months ago. The influenc…
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 12:45 AM
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It’s mostly Asian influencers since my brand mostly cater to Asian clients/consumers, I do have a few white & black influencers in my current list of contracts/collabs, but that’s definitely a rare occurrence. I also have a lot of international influencers (mostly Asian once again) reach out to me, but to be fair, Asia as whole has a bunch of influencers and it’s ultra competitive compared to the States.
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 12:33 AM
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4-5/10 according to some rating sites and Reddit rating communities, hoping that elevates to at least a 6 or 7 after surgery. Having wealth and a strong social media presence definitely helps, but it only really helps if you met the attractiveness threshold, or else they are dating you JUST for the social status you have. I realized that the people I dated (including influencers with their own social media presence) only really stuck around for my wealth and social status.
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 12:29 AM
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I am getting genioplasty and submental-lipo done since I already payed for the operation date and signed the papers, I may be getting a few more other things done after if I really wish to enhance my appearance even more.
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 09:24 PM
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Yeah attractive people seems to live in a completely different world, even the attractive buddies I have from HS thinks I have girls flocks to me due to my cars and wealth.
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 09:22 PM
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I think some people are just deliberately delusional to avoid this reality, so they push it off as a extreme belief. I had people tell me to go “outside” and talk to people more, but that’s what I do every day, I speak to hundreds of people weekly, from influencers to your average Joe working at the warehouse.
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 05:40 PM
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It seems like the extreme end of any belief/community is always a bit cuckoo in the head. I checked out the sub and it seems that they pull the worst/obviously rant like posts to tear apart. Most of the posts I see them tearing apart has nothing to do with the black pill, just tearing apart broken people being bitter and poorly articulating their thoughts.
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 05:00 PM
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I see, thanks for the clarification, my corporate ass thought it had something to do with computers/tech lol
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 04:36 PM
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May I ask what IT is? 😅
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 04:31 PM
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Unfortunately I’ll like to argue that this isn’t just social media, what I’m trying to convey is the Halo effect. I think we can all say that the halo effect is a real phenomenon whether we like it or not. This is why I don’t understand the argument that’s it’s “all in your head” or “it doesn’t represent real life” when people are getting rejected from careers due to their genetic makeup. Social media is very much real life in our age that is ultra reliant on technology. It’s unfortunate, but so…
/r/AllPillDebate14/04/23 02:53 PM
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And what’s realistically possible is defined by statistical evidence, your arguments purely relies on anecdotal observations that hold no real weight in an actual debate. I refuse to believe that anyone will take “feelings” over numerical statistical data backed by numerous researches. Like I said, I doubt we have the qualifications to critique these intensively researched studies, and yet you still cherry pick certain studies. Real life as you describe isn’t defined by your personal observation…
/r/AllPillDebate14/04/23 03:45 AM
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My experiences is strictly influencers, I can’t fathom what goes on behind scenes with actual celebrities. I honestly feel bad for the objectively ugly influencers, I can tell from their emails/DMs that they are trying their absolute hardest to make it/debut as a proper influencer. It honestly saddens me off that these objectively ugly influencers are usually way more talented/creative in making content when compared to their attractive counterparts, these objectively ugly influencers couldn’t r…
/r/AllPillDebate14/04/23 03:28 AM
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Ironically I am successful (financially for my age bracket) and I enjoy my life throughly using the financial assets I acquired. Just because I hold certain beliefs doesn’t mean I act or lash out upon them in my day to day life. I believe that all of us have some personal twisted internal beliefs but we usually don’t act upon that belief/desire most of the time, if at all. My current beliefs actually derives from the recent experiences I have with my success, as someone who’s an CFO of a brand I…
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 07:20 PM
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No you completely misread my argument, matter of fact I actually stated that you CAN change your attitude; but society doesn’t care that you did. Just because you changed doesn’t mean society will, if I changed my perspective/outlook on life as an ugly individual, society will still view me as an ugly individual unfortunately. I can believe anything I want to believe, I can even state that I’m an divine entity, but will society view me as one?
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 06:53 PM
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I also seen individuals who were forced to go to asylums or similar institutions after seeking professional therapy with even one of my friends being forcefully detained by law enforcement after a therapy session the same week. It honestly terrifies me that I could end up in the same position as well and lose everything I obtained so far.
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 06:50 PM
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This is also why I stated that the blue pill is built upon fallacies, the blue pill openly preaches you to deny empirical statistically proven evidence by simply disregarding it every single time there’s an debate, it doesn’t even feel like an debate anymore when the opposite party doesn’t even put in the effort to read the arguments you presented. It feels more like an argument with a child than it is an actual debate and exchange of ideas.
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 06:48 PM
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There’s not a single statement in this thread from me that utilized incel “jargon” or “slang” your arrogance of not even properly reading my arguments says plenty enough of the advice you are handing out.
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 06:38 PM
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Unfortunately for society, online dating is literally the one of the largest portion right now with 39% (TheKnow 2022 study case which interviewed 5,000 couples) of all couples meeting online, and that statistic is only growing. I don’t understand how online dating isn’t real life if it’s how the majority of couples meet nowadays. Just because you don’t use online dating platforms doesn’t mean everyone else will also stop using it, the amount of users will only grow due to how accessible and con…
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 05:28 PM
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There’s a lot, probably too many for me to particularly list out, but off the top of my dome I have the Pareto Principe (commonly known as the 80/20 rule nowadays) developed by an 19-20th century economist which still holds true this day since it aligns itself with recent dating research (Tinder statistics, okcupid statistics, etc) regarding women’s view on male attractiveness. A simple google search of this topic will provide you with tons of results published by researchers that are not even r…
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 05:19 PM
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It’s not rage if you simply accept it like you inferred, I obviously hold bitterness and resentment but it’s doesn’t affect/influence my actions in real life. I think it’s justified to have these emotions, you simply can’t tell your brain to disregard these valid feelings.
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 05:00 PM
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You are taking the rare statistical anecdotal anomaly as the standard/representation for everyone else. It’s extremely rare that ugly/fat guys get into any relationship in the current dating market where only the top 20% of the male demographic is deemed as “dateable” to most women.
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 04:47 PM
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And what good does therapy do in this situation? Feed some ultra wealthy therapists even more wealth for some basic bs blue pill advice that’s widely available on the internet? The blue pill go-to method of “re-wiring” your mind doesn’t do anything in the real world, if simply changing your mindset to a more positive attitude than everyone here wouldn’t have an issue to begin with. Just because you changed your attitude and perspective of the world doesn’t mean that society will suddenly change …
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 04:42 PM
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I doubt this will actually be a solution as promising as it sounds. It’s shown and proven multiples times that women will rather share the top 20% than get with the lower half of the male population. The increased surplus of single women just translates to the top 20% having even more leverage and options to pick from.
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 04:30 PM
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I do find it rather amusing that women will ignore the most blatant red flags if they find the guy attractive enough. I think most women would rather share the top 10% and be openly cheated on rather than settling with individuals labeled as the bottom 50% in the west.
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 04:47 AM
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I went through the same process and I boldly assume that a decent portion of individuals who follow the black pill were originally followers of the red pill after being exposed to the cruel reality of this society during their pursuit to self-improve. This transition of mines is also why I don’t completely disagree with the red pill, it does delude people but it’s not as delusion as the blue pill which is something I’ll never agree with.
/r/AllPillDebate13/04/23 04:44 AM
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Yes it sells, but not to people 18+ and it’s viewed as a “phase” in Asian society. As an Asian individual who frequently travels to different Asian countries several times throughout the year to find potential Asian influencers for the brand I co-founded, I can confidently say that k-media isn’t treated serious anywhere in Asia unless you are a minor. Drama roles/actors are treated with more respect since they eventually pivot to more serious roles but like I said, if it’s specifically anything …
/r/AllPillDebate12/04/23 09:40 PM
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Who told you that? You do realize k-pop and the majority of k-drama is looked down upon in asia right? In Korea it’s literally viewed as childish and immature to be k-pop/k-drama fans. These Asian countries are mostly conservative which looks down at the concept of pretty boys which is mainly featured in k-pop/k-drama. The majority of k-media stans/fans online are non-Asian as well. Even if k-media is pushed by the government, it doesn’t benefit 90% of the Asian male population, it only benefits…
/r/AllPillDebate12/04/23 08:10 PM
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I don’t have much to offer as advice, but I understand the pain of being surrounded by desires you can’t fulfill. It feels like I’m window shopping with my eyes every single day whenever I go out in public. The bitterness really does consume you and fill you up with resentment towards the world as a whole.
/r/AllPillDebate12/04/23 07:54 PM
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Accountability is the modern women’s kryptonite.
/r/AllPillDebate12/04/23 07:42 PM
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I went about with the classic red pill advice, it was my cope and I do admit that the red pill does help and hold some truth to it. I mainly focused on building wealth and so far, I think I’m doing decent for my age group. The wealth I amassed obviously didn’t help in terms of my dating life, but it did provide superficial joy/happiness due to the materialistic assets I own. So although my dating life didn’t change after my newfound wealth, it did allow me to enjoy the other aspects of life sinc…
/r/AllPillDebate12/04/23 03:12 AM
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It’s the reality of the things, I don’t understand why the majority of people are against plastic surgery, especially when it can fix a facial defect. The genetics we are born with defines our limits and potential, that’s just the natural order of things, but plastic surgery has the potential to break these limits placed by our genetics. If anyone can afford plastic surgery, they should definitely consider it and schedule some consultations. There is literately no negatives to your life if you b…
/r/AllPillDebate12/04/23 03:01 AM
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Yeah I have to accept the fact that I basically fully soft maxed in terms of my looks, so it’s time to hard max my face via surgery to compensate for my worthless genetics.
/r/AllPillDebate11/04/23 11:34 PM
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But it’s not common is it? You are cherry picking the statistical anomaly and using that statistic as the representation for the rest of the population, it doesn’t even take statistical evidence to see what features are favored in this dating market, it’s literally everywhere in public.
/r/AllPillDebate11/04/23 11:28 PM
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I’m not defending them, I’m just stating the observation and correlation. It is without a doubt partly society’s fault and it’s humiliating treatment to push these individuals into echo chambers. In echo chamber environments, extreme views become the norm due to how common it is in those settings. They are already rejected by society, I doubt they care about what society continues to say about their views even if it turns extreme.
/r/AllPillDebate11/04/23 11:26 PM
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I have no real explanation to that extreme transformation besides the echo chamber effect they experience after being constantly humiliated by society. As much as society proclaims to help these individuals, they really don’t. I partly blame society for this, for always pushing more and more people into these echo chambers without giving them any chance of redemption. The majority of these incels can be saved if someone simply spoke with them properly before they spiral into insanity, some of th…
/r/AllPillDebate11/04/23 03:15 AM
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You missed my point completely, people can ACT content/satisfied in real life despite following certain beliefs. Do you really believe that every smile you see is genuine and that every interaction is real? I can be deeply unhappy and yet still perform and act confident during meetings/business proposals if I felt like it.
/r/AllPillDebate10/04/23 10:15 PM
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I’ll say it is almost two separate communities/mindsets as of now, you have incels who are perfectly functioning members of society who are just involuntary celibate and accepted their genetic shortcomings and you have extremists on the other hand of the spectrum. These extremist have gathered in echo chambers repeating the same extreme beliefs that it starts to affect them in every aspect of life. At the same time I don’t really blame them for going down that path due to the humiliation they fa…
/r/AllPillDebate10/04/23 10:04 PM
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I hope you do realize there are people who hold beliefs/ideologies and don’t act upon them in real life? There are fully functioning individuals of society who follows the teachings of the black pill. You think I climbed to my position by being pitiful and feeling sorry for myself? You really thought someone pitied me and handed me job and assets? I wish it was as simple as that and I’m sorry to burst your bubble that I wasn’t a self-pitying individual in public. You also picked out the most irr…
/r/AllPillDebate10/04/23 09:57 PM
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That still doesn’t disregard the fact that average guys in our society are still invisible, and they are AVERAGE, are you assuming that we don’t put in the effort to contribute to society? That we are all bums who strays away from social interactions despite being constantly humiliated for our genetic makeup? This is what I don’t understand, it’s like person A and person B are both looking for jobs, person A gets a job easily due to his father’s connection while person B is rejected after applyi…
/r/AllPillDebate10/04/23 09:00 PM
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I think it’s basic human rights to at least have your existence, accomplishments, or your LIFE in general to be noticed. I understand you will never be remembered like historical figures, but is being noticed by even one person all that much to ask for in a world of 7 billion people? If your average/unattractive, you don’t get any acknowledgment while the conventionally attractive bath in attention even if they don’t want it, you think that’s arrogant?
/r/AllPillDebate10/04/23 07:37 PM
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The average man is literally invisible. If you are an average dude, you can literally disappear and no one will even remember your existence that was invisible to begin with.
/r/AllPillDebate10/04/23 03:21 PM
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The average men to modern women is someone who is • 6 ft+ • chiseled jaw like the greek gods • 6 figure salary • 6 inch penis • 6/10 facial attractiveness This is the modern women’s perception of an “average” man, the real average joes are just invisible so we aren’t even mentioned.
/r/AllPillDebate10/04/23 03:19 PM
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I agree with the statement that grinding/taking the red pill isn’t the automatic solution to everything, but it’s also just as delusional as the blue pill to state that if you grind hard enough you can achieve your goals, that’s simply false. The genetics we are born with literally defines our potential in life, sure you can try to outwork someone with talent/unbounded potential by pushing yourself to the extreme, but even that’s worthless if the person with limitless potential starts grinding a…
/r/AllPillDebate10/04/23 03:16 PM
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15% BF mate. It’s not that hard to tell if you have bad facial features, having a recessed jaw is obvious regardless of your weight/build. Yes the biggest glow ups happen to fat people but that’s an obvious statement to begin with, what I’m stating is that the same results isn’t plausible for everyone. A fat mfer with a good facial structure can easily go from an 3 to an 6-7+, you can’t apply that potential to an fat mfer with a horrendous bone/facial structures. You are taking the rare perfect …
/r/AllPillDebate10/04/23 03:10 PM
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I call it “chadflation”
/r/AllPillDebate10/04/23 11:18 AM
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Exactly, standards are getting astronomically inflated to the point where every women is gunning for the top 10% even if it means being in a open relationship favoring towards the dude. All the red flags a dude exudes doesn’t mean shit if they are attractive enough.
/r/AllPillDebate10/04/23 11:13 AM
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Unless you are delusional or blind, it’s literally everywhere. Just download any online dating app and make two profiles, one of the average Joe and one of chad, you can tell the difference immediately from the attention/likes. In our society, the average Joe is completely invisible, he can disappear one day and nobody will remember his existence. Delusional people like to argue that ugly guys get women too, but that’s taking a statistical anomaly and using that as representation for the ENTIRE …
/r/AllPillDebate10/04/23 03:38 AM
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After dropping my BF to nearly 15% and being successful (for my age) financially, I can confidently say no. I literally drive a brand new Lexus + Audi while everyone in my age group drives some beaten down shit box. The only thing I’m grateful for taking the red pill is the financial success I obtained from the mindset of only focusing on my myself. The red pill is certainly helpful, it teaches you to focus on your goals with distractions in order to efficiently obtain it, but it doesn’t automat…
/r/AllPillDebate09/04/23 11:59 PM
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Several years ago without the influence of social media, you can see normies, not even HTN succeed in terms of dating. Now the standard is almost chadlite in order to be successful in terms of the current dating market. Unfortunately this gap is growing, it’s literally attractiveness being inflated due to social media, maybe in a few years chad will be the new standard instead.
/r/AllPillDebate09/04/23 11:54 PM
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These other factors such as being fit are “benefits” only if you have the requirements.
/r/AllPillDebate09/04/23 11:28 PM
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You could try devoting every hour to fitness, but some of us refuse to participate playing a rigged game that was never in our favor. It’s a common occurrence that some redpillers will take the black pill after the realization that their gains doesn’t mean jack if you weren’t genetically blessed to begin with. If someone has the potential to be attractive (good bone/facial structure) when they are overweight, it make sense for them to work out, but for some of us who are dealt a bad hand with ge…
/r/AllPillDebate09/04/23 11:20 PM
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The only criteria is to be attractive and your all set for a sexually attractive personality 👍
/r/AllPillDebate09/04/23 11:04 PM
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I have a few procedures scheduled next year to strengthen my lower facial features. I’m currently rated about an 4.5/10 on average from multiple forums, so hopefully I can ascend to at least a 6/10 or even possibly a 7/10.
/r/AllPillDebate09/04/23 10:55 PM
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