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ConversationTheFreeloader/r/seduction07/08/20 12:01 PM
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Find situations where you can make friends with girls. I started by teaching English online and helping girls at my university with schoolwork.
/r/seduction29/08/22 03:17 PM
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If you wanted something long-term with her, you should have tried to connect with her on something beyond her appearance.
/r/seduction23/08/22 04:21 PM
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Totally disagree. Holding eye contact and having things you're passionate about come off as attractive. Obviously staring at someone and literally never looking away is horrifying, and is not the same as holding strong eye contact in general. I don't think we disagree about this. But what you call "strong eye contact", I would call "an appropriate amount of eye contact". Not really profound advice. Imagine a guy being turned off by a girl talking passionately about what interests her. If I had a…
/r/seduction18/08/22 08:43 PM
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I just imagine talking to that kind of guy who keeps staring intensely at people and won’t stop talking about some random thing he’s obsessed by. It’s not a guy I would enjoy talking to. I say, follow the golden rule, be the kind of guy you would enjoy to talk to yourself. Don’t get to stuck in your head about “projecting confidence”. You’re just gonna come off as weird.
/r/seduction17/08/22 06:28 AM
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So, hold strong eye contact, and speak very energetically about your own interests. Seems like a great way to come off as an uncalibratred psycho.
/r/seduction16/08/22 07:12 PM
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You can be bitter about it if you like, but I don’t think it brings you much benefit. I say it’s better to try to turn it to your advantage. With that kind of women it’s all about selling them a story about who they are and where they are going because of you. If you manage to do that well, they will be quite loyal to you, because so much of their personality is tied to the story of who they are with you.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/02/22 11:56 AM
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I have heard that a lot of women are like that. They don't really have much of an independent personality. They instead define themselves completely by the people they are around, especially their partner. That's why there are a lot of women sit and dream about the guy who will come and turn them into the person they really want to be.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/02/22 10:39 AM
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That report says that 65% of perpetrators are men. (Chapter 1, page 39)
/r/AntiFeminists30/12/21 09:55 AM
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Yea, and he wants to act as the voice of reason to them. Then it doesn’t work to be basing his arguments on self-serving unrealistic bullshit.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/07/21 02:57 PM
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No. A lot of the time, all she says is “I would like to have 2/3/4 kids.” And already he is off talking about how she needs to find someone making 300-500k to make that possible. Big mansions, luxury cars and fancy vacations were never mentioned in these discussions.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/07/21 07:43 AM
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The math doesn’t check out. There are more women than men everywhere (except India and China because of selective abortion), since men are much more likely to die young than women. And there are more men than women who are (effectively) taken out of the dating pool by being in prison, in their parents’ basement, on the bottle or on drugs. So if you are a guy without those problems, the numbers are favoring you. On top of that, since the social norm is that men have to initiate romantic contacts,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 07:00 PM
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Main thing I don’t like about him is that he seems to push women towards having unreasonable financial expectations for their partner. He will sometimes have women coming on the show who have pretty reasonable financial expectations, but then he will start going on and on about how you can’t raise a family in the US unless you have a household income of at least 400k a year. So according to him, 95% of families in the US can’t get by financially. And then following this logic, he usually ends up…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/06/21 09:42 AM
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He's not interested in talking to her, because he does not regard her as worthy of his time and attention. He won't share what's on his mind, and he has no patience for listening to her concerns. He doesn't value her perspective, but is annoyed by it. When in a conversation he will either stonewall or steamroll the conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 11:37 AM
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Thanks Osama.
/r/seduction30/03/21 05:40 PM
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Try to set up a phone call instead.
/r/seduction30/01/21 08:55 AM
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Maybe smiling at guys can work on the small minority of guys who are into cold approaching. But the vast majority of guys, no matter how interested they are in you, and no matter how inviting your smile looks, would never consider for a moment approaching you. If you want to talk to those guys, I am afraid you will have to do the approaching yourself.
/r/seduction24/01/21 05:10 PM
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Not really. The hard part just comes later in the funnel for women, in getting someone to stick around long-term. Not much use in finding what you think is “the right person”, if he has no intention of actually having a long-term relationship.
/r/seduction22/01/21 09:11 AM
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I mean compared to an average Man, it's easier for an average Woman. I don’t think that’s true unless you live China. There are just as many women as there are men in most places. But a higher proportion of men than women are locked away in prison or in their parents’s basement, taking them out of the dating pool. Sure, if you are just looking to get a date or a one-night stand it might be easier for women. But if you are looking to have a long-term relationship with a decent person, I would say…
/r/seduction21/01/21 03:37 PM
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I’m very anxious and awkward around men particularly so approaching men is out of my comfort zone so what else can I do as an alternative? That it's outside your comfort zone is no excuse. On the contrary, it's a good reason to take on that challenge. Being uncomfortable around men is not attractive. Actually, it's one of the biggest hindrances you can have to being attractive to men. People always say "be yourself". Well, you can't "be yourself" if you are too shy and awkward to do anything aro…
/r/seduction21/01/21 02:56 PM
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You don’t necessarily have to work hard, but you do have to work at it consistently, and maybe for quite a long time. If you can’t do that, then maybe you don’t want it enough right now. Maybe some day you will find the willpower and determination it will take for you to succeed.
/r/seduction18/01/21 11:46 PM
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I do not care about job, education at the moment because parents provide everything for me What do you want to do instead with your life then? You must have some purpose. I don’t think you will find any woman who is interested in a guy whose only purpose in life is merely to survive while expending the least possible effort. Besides that, you need to break your goal into smaller goals. Just having “get laid” as your goal is too far off and out of your control. Instead, focus on smaller objective…
/r/seduction18/01/21 11:26 PM
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Here is what you should do. Go to /r/askseddit and ask your questions over there.
/r/seduction12/01/21 09:05 AM
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I can’t imagine a woman ever agreeing to that. I think you should just wait with having sex until you find a woman you trust enough.
/r/seduction05/10/20 08:28 AM
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First, you gotta figure out what kind of guy you want to be appealing to. No woman is attractive to all men. Especially not if you are interested in a long-term relationship. Of course, there are some, mostly physical, traits that are almost universally appealing (being normal weight is more attractive than being obese, looking young is more attractive than looking old). But besides that, most of it comes down to taste. So think about the kind of guy you want to attract. What kind of woman do yo…
/r/seduction20/09/20 12:26 PM
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Well, if you are the back-up guy, you just gotta make her like you enough that you end up as the main guy.
/r/seduction17/09/20 12:19 AM
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The thing is she can’t really put you in the friendzone. You can only do that yourself. You are only in the friendzone when you start acting like a friend around her. If you keep treating her like a potential lover, keep flirting, keep escalating on her, she can’t make you stay in the friendzone. She either has to break off contact with you, or accept you as a potential lover.
/r/seduction16/09/20 11:59 PM
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Maybe that will make you feel better. But it’s not gonna do anything to get with the girl. Maybe it would be better to start feeling good about doing the best you can to win her, rather than counting up imaginary points in your head for how alpha and attractive you are. If you always give up at the slightest sign of resistance, you are gonna end up giving up on a lot of relationships that could turned around and gone much further.
/r/seduction16/09/20 11:47 PM
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Well, she said she wants to be friends. She’s not much of a friend if she doesn’t want to meet with you. Try to figure out something “friend-like” you can do together. Maybe make some excuse for why you have to go to her area anyway.
/r/seduction16/09/20 11:41 PM
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No, I think it’s a terrible idea. If this was your first date, she is likely to just forget about you. I say, just meet up with her again, make her feel good around you, then start escalating. If she calls you out on it and insist on the friend thing (which she probably won’t), you can say something like “oh, I just can’t put it out of my mind how amazing it was kissing with you. You know, it really is hard for me to be around you constantly having this on my mind.” If that’s the frame you take,…
/r/seduction16/09/20 11:35 PM
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This will almost certainly not lead anywhere other than feeling a bit of petty victory. This relationship could probably still be salvaged. But it would take a bit more finesse than just giving her the cold shoulder.
/r/seduction16/09/20 11:20 PM
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Maybe just ask her why she’s suddenly feeling this way. But either way, I don’t think this really the friendzone. It’s just a bit of resistance you have have to push through. Make her feel comfortable around you again, and escalate when it seems appropriate.
/r/seduction16/09/20 11:15 PM
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I can recommend these videos: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKf46APVLQ5QLAUaTAZIMsLPKTODKvkBd The main takeaway point though is to just be bold and go for it.
/r/seduction11/09/20 11:27 AM
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Of course you can’t cold open a girl and expect her to do all the talking. But once you have got her to engage a bit, it’s a good idea to step back a bit and let her do most of the talking. The opening is a very small part of the overall interaction with a girl, and if you are staying in “opening mode” the whole time throughout, I think you are making a mistake. Your goal when opening should be to get her to engage in the conversation, so you can get out of “opening mode”, and start having a mor…
/r/seduction11/09/20 09:48 AM
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Maybe this attitude works to liberate some very self-inhibited people, who are otherwise too afraid of being disliked to express themselves, but I don’t think it’s a good attitude to have in general. I think being afraid of being boring can lead to overly self-conscious behavior. Instead of asking “am I being too boring?”, it’s better to ask “am I being true to myself?” If you are being boring because you are too afraid to say what you really want to say, then that’s a problem. But if you are be…
/r/seduction11/09/20 09:25 AM
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Yes, well, this will only get you 90% there. You still need to be the one steering the relationship towards becoming more intimate.
/r/seduction11/09/20 06:36 AM
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My site? I am pretty sure the developers of that site never intended it to be used as a dating platform. I just recommend it here because it has helped me a lot.
/r/seduction07/08/20 02:04 PM
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Not following rule 1 and 2 of Tinder?
/r/seduction06/08/20 06:40 PM
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Well, that good looking guy with a great profile is probably too busy with all the other girls chasing him to have time for you.
/r/seduction02/06/20 09:36 PM
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Try different places. Young and old people tend to congregate in different classes. If the teacher is young and the classes are cheap, it’s more likely to attract younger people. And of course, if it’s available, classes associated a university will mostly have younger people.
/r/seduction29/05/20 06:23 PM
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That’s a good first step. But once you get better at talking to women, I think you should try to calibrate how you talk to them. You don’t talk to a child, a peer or an old person in the same way. And likewise, you shouldn’t talk to men and women the same way. One thing I think you need to calibrate how you have discussions. Women and men don’t argue in the same way. Men tend to have an adversarial approach to discussions, while women tend to have a more diplomatic approach. Often men can get in…
/r/seduction28/05/20 09:20 PM
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I disagree. I think it’s actually easier to have deep conversations with women. Men have a tendency to prefer quite superficial factual discussions, while women tend to be better at also having discussions that involve emotional, psychological and social dimensions. But I guess it might depend on what you consider to be “deep”.
/r/seduction28/05/20 06:22 PM
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Oh, I’ve never listened much to Drake. What’s his music like? Why do you like his music? How does his music make you feel? What are his lyrics about? What other kinds of music do you like? If someone really is passionate about something, almost no matter what it is, it’s easy to have an interesting conversation about it. It’s just a question of letting their interests guide the topic of conversation, instead of sticking to some preconceived notion about what’s “interesting”.
/r/seduction28/05/20 06:10 PM
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People tend to become more interesting if you are interested in them. Few people want to share much of themselves or engage deeply in a conversation with someone who isn’t paying attention to them or trying to understand them. So mayby, instead of assuming that they are boring, assume that they are actually really interesting, but they just haven’t shown the interesting part of themselves yet. You will find that having this belief will often make it true.
/r/seduction28/05/20 05:59 PM
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Anyone can seem boring if you don’t know how to get to what’s interesting about them.
/r/seduction28/05/20 05:51 PM
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One thing though, I think you go for the “close” a bit too early. Like, you haven’t even told them why you think they are that particular star sign. To me, that makes it seem like you are just a bit too eager to get her number for your own sake, rather than it just being a convenient way for both of you to stay in touch.
/r/seduction05/05/20 05:00 AM
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What makes you believe it is such a bad conversation starter? It’s a way to tell them about something you have observed about them. People love to hear about what other people think of them, even if they are not interested in astrology.
/r/seduction05/05/20 04:48 AM
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Yea, what is this sentimental trash. This is supposed to be a sub for cynical techniques to trick women into having sex with you in order to boost your self-esteem.
/r/seduction19/04/20 11:12 AM
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Often you won’t know what you will like until you have tried it. Besides, I don’t see anything disingenuous or impure about including “and there will be girls there” as a reason for picking up a hobby. It’s a factor to consider. It’s just like if you go out at night, you might like to go to a sports bar. But when you then factor in that most of the people there will be men, then maybe you would rather go somewhere else.
/r/seduction23/03/20 04:14 PM
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You shouldn’t completely change who you are. You just need to cultivate a side of yourself that’s more conducive to socializing with women. We all have many different interests or things we might want to try, and surely some of those things will give you the chance to come into contact with women. I also disagree with the sentiment that “your hobbies need to find you”. There are many things that you will only really start appreciating once you have invested some time in them. If you are “letting…
/r/seduction23/03/20 03:40 PM
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Get some new hobbies then. Think to yourself “what would the kind of girl, I’d want to be with, be into?” Surely some of those things must also be interesting to you.
/r/seduction23/03/20 02:07 PM
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Who said anything about Tinder?
/r/seduction25/02/20 04:54 PM
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Does “seducing her properly” mean setting up a date through telepathy?
/r/seduction25/02/20 04:04 PM
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You are getting a lot of numbers so you are clearly pretty good at approaching. But I think you need to work on turning your numbers into dates, and turning your dates physical.
/r/seduction12/01/20 08:56 AM
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It's hard to tell. It depends on how physical she normally is. If she is the kind of girl who likes to cuddle with all her friends, it might not have meant much. But if she rarely does that kind of thing, she might have meant it as a signal for you that she likes you and wanted you to escalate (i.e. by becoming more physical, talking to her more or trying to isolate her). In any event, the only way to know would be to try. If you are interested in her, I would suggest you contact her again, and …
/r/seduction01/01/20 07:15 PM
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Of course that was intentional. If she didn't want to sit on your feet, she would just have asked you to move them or pushed them away.
/r/seduction01/01/20 06:48 PM
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What makes you think that? There are plenty of pick-up guys out there who have success with daygame cold approach. I think it’s mainly just a question of finding a way to open that doesn’t seem weird. But that’s not that hard to do. Opening by for instance asking for directions or some other kind of help you might ask a stranger for will rarely be seen as all that weird. But with right attitude, an observational opener won’t seem weird either, if you convey being the kind of extroverted person w…
/r/seduction01/01/20 05:19 PM
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And yet a lot of single women go around for a long time not being able to find the kind of man they want. And you know, with all the young men shutting themselves away from society with video games and online porn nowadays, it makes sense that quality men would be in more limited supply than quality women. So maybe it wouldn't be a bad thing if more women learned to approach the guys they are interested in. But, you know, all this is good news for guys who do learn this stuff, since the world is…
/r/seduction31/12/19 04:53 PM
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And some go on dates to find out if they like a guy.
/r/seduction30/12/19 11:32 AM
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You should still have exchanged numbers with the girl on the second night. It’s good to have female friends, and her relationship probably won’t last forever.
/r/seduction29/12/19 11:22 PM
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Why do you have to rain on his parade? We all gotta start somewhere. An “uncool” move is way better than not making a move at all.
/r/seduction29/12/19 11:12 PM
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It depends on where you are cold approaching. For night game (bars and clubs) it doesn't matter much what you open with, she knows why you are there, and it's not unusual for strangers to talk to each other in that setting. So you can just be like "Hey, wanna talk?" or "Can I join you?" and then say whatever is on your mind. For day game (grocery stores, parks, train stations ect.) you do need a little bit of a reason for it not to be too weird. An observation about her or a compliment will almo…
/r/seduction29/12/19 10:44 PM
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What’s that supposed to be an example of? He approached 5 girls and kissed one of them. You think that’s a bad result?
/r/seduction29/12/19 08:14 PM
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Why is this sort of black pill bullshit getting upvoted here. Of course game works. You don’t even have to believe the word of anyone on the internet, you can see it with your own eyes if you just spend some time in bars and clubs. You will see the sort of average looking kinds of guys whom the all girls just seem to like. Go to him, hang out with him for a while and observe his technique. He is undoubtedly using techniques you will recognize from game taught online, no matter if he has studied …
/r/seduction29/12/19 06:03 PM
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That’s my strategy too. As long as you are fun, interesting and easy-going, most guy groups will be happy to have you tag along. Sitting with them keeps you in a social mindset and avoids you feeling awkward or bored. And if you find someone who seems to be into game, you might even turn him into an impromptu wingman. Just be careful you don’t get too carried away chatting up guy groups and forget about your real goal.
/r/seduction25/12/19 10:20 PM
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What do you mean by “no luck”? Are you going to meet-ups with only male participants? In any event, if you get comfortable with cold approach, you will never have any trouble meeting girls. Any street, any shop, any train station, any cafe or any bar in any city you are in will have girls in them that you could go and talk to. So work on getting comfortable with cold approaching, and you won’t have to worry about contriving opportunities for meeting girls. As for how to get better at cold approa…
/r/seduction25/12/19 09:57 PM
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Well, maybe that’s what would make you feel best, but what will that attitude actually get you? If she ghosts you, but you acted “high value” about, you are still not getting anything from it. Being obsessed with never appearing needy is a weakness in it of itself. Real strength is doing whatever is necessary in the moment to achieve the optimal outcome. So you might as well try something to turn that “maybe” into a “yes”. Or at least turn it into a “no, because” that you can learn from.
/r/seduction20/12/19 06:14 PM
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I think this is an instance where it wouldn't be the worst to just ask. You could be like: "Hey, I thought we hit it off quite well last time, but you don't seem that interested anymore, what's up with that?", or if you want to be less direct you could be like "So, what's with the slow answer, busy these days or what?" Or do something else. Just do something. I think it would be dumb to just let her slip away in silence when you already have gotten good signs from her. Playing "high value" and l…
/r/seduction20/12/19 05:07 PM
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