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With respect, it may not be complicated for the recipient but it can be very complicated for the one doing the pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/26 07:53 PM
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If circumstances have changed then I think it’s on the person who did the rejecting to let the other party know.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:54 PM
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Yes, I said that. It does not refute my argument that it is an extension of emotional expression. Note that I said "feminine act" throughout the conversation. Not "feminine trait."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:15 AM
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Should probably have made it clear that it was contingent on you disproving my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:07 AM
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Maybe it will help if I summarize this conversation. I gave a definition for conventional masculinity (stoicism, pragmatism, assertiveness, protectiveness, etc). You eventually asked me about violent crime to which I made the claim that it was a feminine act because it was an extension of emotional expression, a trait commonly associated with the gender construct of femininity. You countered by saying that it is weird to call violent crime feminine when violent crime is disproportionately commit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:01 AM
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So then what are you arguing regarding violent crime?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:50 AM
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But what's the argument that violent crime is masculine?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:44 AM
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I said that violent crime is a feminine act because it follows from emotional expression. I believe that stoicism (a behavior) is culturally reinformed among men, and emotional expression (another behavior) is culturally reinforced among women, but I do not believe that criminal violence (an action) is culturally reinforced among either men or women to any significant degree. https://usafacts.org/answers/what-is-the-crime-rate-in-the-us/country/united-states/ This 2024 data indicates there are 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:11 AM
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I don’t disagree. We are talking about subjective interpretations. Masculinity as I understand it is a social construct and not a hard standard. If we’re talking about what makes a man in a strict scientific sense then that’s a different conversation. A quick Google search indicates that masculinity refers to “the cultural roles, behaviors, and attributes assigned to men.” And I would argue that stoicism is something that tends to be culturally reinforced among men to a greater degree than getti…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:25 AM
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But therein lies the point I am making. While there is a strong correlation between being a man and being masculine, the behavioral traits of a masculine man are not present in every man. Those crimes are disproportionately committed by men, but maybe those men aren't masculine. I'm definitely open to other interpretations and definitions, but the willingness to commit violent crimes is simply incongruous with stoicism and pragmatism. I also feel weird calling violent crime a feminine act but I …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:04 AM
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When I referred to expressive anger I was mostly imagining the way people interact with others and wasn't considering physical violence to be part of it. But if we consider physical violence to follow from expressive anger then yeah, I do think expressing anger through violence is feminine by my strict definition. It contradicts the stoic and pragmatic principles of being a masculine man. I'm sure a lot of people may disagree, but when someone's actions are guided by emotion instead of logic/pra…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:49 PM
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When it comes to getting into fights it sort of depends on the circumstances, but expressive anger is more commonly associated with femininity, yeah. And I say that simply because emotional expression is more associated with femininity. Men can be masculine or feminine, and women can be masculine or feminine. I don't know that strong emotional expression is the only distinguishing feature between the masculine and the feminine, but it definitely is a major one. There's definitely a lot to be sai…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:30 PM
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It's an interesting question because we see a lot of anger these days on both sides of the political spectrum, but I think there's a distinction to be made between visceral expressive anger and the more dormant underlying anger. I'm plenty angry these days for a myriad of different reasons but I don't outwardly express it and that may or may not be the healthiest way of handling it. I do think if you're trying to imagine a conventionally masculine man as an archetype you would expect him to be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 11:16 PM
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I would say stoicism, assertiveness, and pragmatism are hallmark traits of conventionally masculine conservative men. There’s also the instinctual desire to be a protective provider. I do not believe those traits require someone to adhere to a conservative political philosophy but they do tend to be more predominant among conservatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 10:56 PM
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I don’t think liberal women are secretly attracted to conservative men based on principles or ideology. However I do think there is validity in them being attracted to behavioral characteristics of conservative men. I consider myself staunchly liberal and had no luck with women when I was a lot younger despite living in deeply blue areas. As I grew older I adopted a more conventionally masculine mindset (not out of some concerted effort, it was just how I self-identified) and found myself becomi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:43 PM
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It was.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:25 AM

You seem like a really pleasant person to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 11:21 PM
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Again, not disputing that women are an unreliable source of information in this specific context. But not being fat and not being poor are bare minimum requirements of being a functional adult, never mind dating. These are the two things that have the greatest ROI for men. I don’t need the red pill to tell me that. Can you explain what are the actionable things red pill philosophy provides men to facilitate short-term success with women that go beyond what we’ve discussed in this subthread? What…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 12:49 AM
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I don’t disagree with your overall thesis. Men who are struggling need actionable advice and women will oftentimes describe characteristics they value in a long-term relationship when short-term is where most men falter. But I would still have benefited from someone telling me to be the best version of myself because it would force me to look inward and address the deficiencies I knew I had. The fact is, a lot of men (and women) know what they should do. I shouldn’t have to tell someone to get f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 12:12 AM
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“Be the best version of yourself” is the advice people need to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 08:55 PM
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When you are a man who receives little to no attention or validation then even gross and offensive objectification can feel flattering. That’s his point. Nobody is denying that said objectification is bad, just that one’s lived in experience can make it feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 06:19 PM
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I think it is the “even” in your post that makes it come across as hostile. I know I read it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 05:50 PM
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For someone in his position the "feeling desired" bit is most likely going to be the only thing that matters. Otherwise, wouldn't you expect him to have seen a hooker by now? I expect that it would make him feel even worse than he currently does.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:14 PM
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It’s not about simply having sex. It’s about feeling desired. People who recommend that virgins go to a hooker are speaking from privilege because they have never been in that position and cannot empathize with the feeling of inadequacy that paid sex will not immediately solve.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 06:57 PM

Hence why I said “developed feelings.” That’s the scenario we are discussing. Entering a friendship under false pretenses is fucked up, no one denies this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:07 PM

I’m going to be frank, if someone ends a friendship with me because I developed feelings for them and tried to shoot my shot then maybe that friendship wasn’t worth keeping in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 05:22 AM
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I’m the exact same way. I am staunchly left wing and would absolutely never vocalize my thoughts on modern-day dating dynamics to any of my peers because they just would not be received well. It’s entirely possible to be a feminist while also bringing awareness to male-specific issues and problems but rarely do you see anyone manage to successfully thread the needle.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:44 PM
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For sure, both men and women do it, and in both cases it’s usually because they don’t lift or have any kind of first-hand knowledge how incremental muscle gains can be over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:43 PM
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I think the average person is not going to be able to make a distinction between "weight lifting" and "strength training" the way you seem to assume they would. Again, your statement in isolation is arguably misleading. Just some feedback for the future. Have a great day!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:42 PM
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That statement in isolation is ambiguous because it's not clear what the comparative group would be. I think a lot of people reading your comment would feel the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:38 PM
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Ok? Do you want to elaborate? Do you have a study that demonstrates higher rates of detrimental joint issues in "weight lifters" compared to the general population? I'm not doubting there are higher rates in weight lifters compared to strength trainers, but the way you seem to be framing this discussion is that weight lifting is inherently risky compared to those who don't lift at all. And I would find that claim problematic given that things like joint issues seem to affect most people later in…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:27 PM
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The extra stress serves to enhance joint stability, provided you're using good form and reasonable weights as you have mentioned. I also think it's important to frame the context here - are we talking about beginners, IFBB competitors, or everyone? Some demographics are going to be taking more risks than others, but they're not necessarily representative of most people lifting weights.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:18 PM
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I understand the point that you're making but for practical purposes there is considerable overlap between the two and for most beginners (or even some intermediates) there isn't going to be much of a difference. Like sure, there are going to be specific muscles that don't confer much in terms of health benefits, but if we're talking about something like the pectoralis muscles, a strength-based approach will mostly be just as beneficial as a weightlifter approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:07 PM
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Weight lifting is absolutely healthy. It improves mobility, increases bone density, boosts metabolism… which says nothing about the improvements to mental health and confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:57 PM

Yeah I understand your take but I guess it really depends on the nature of the problem or issue. If it's based on something that could reasonably be attributed to miscommunication then I think it warrants a quick and direct discussion. Or if someone says something they didn't intend to be offensive and it's taken that way. Lots of potential issues can be resolved just by asking questions in the moment. I don't deny there are immediate dealbreakers, like saying something super racist/sexist or ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 07:25 PM

Yeah maybe. But I think the end result is that because they "don't need a man" they go into dating or the early stages of a relationship with the assumption that it won't work out anyway and that they'll be fine. And then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy because they use the slightest problems or issues to disqualify the man. It's totally fine though. I'm not judging them for it and I can even understand that standpoint. But for my purposes, I would much rather find someone who doesn't make…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 07:07 PM

I think this hits the nail on the head. Women my age are so jaded on men to the point that all I ever hear is that men suck, men are the worst, men are the root of all problems, etc. Why would I willingly choose to be around that kind of negative energy? Why should I feel antagonized because of the actions of a few awful men that THEY selected for? At least with a younger woman I don’t feel like I’m guilty until proven innocent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:25 PM
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I’m like still cringing about it over here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 05:13 PM
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Maybe he developed feelings for you over time?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 04:55 PM
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Sorry to hear that but I'm curious as to how you suddenly thought it didn't always apply.
/r/seduction24/03/14 03:10 PM
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Absolutely. I subscribed to this subreddit because I wanted to learn how to be a better man, not because I want to hear about how all women are inherently evil and manipulative. To me there is nothing "red pill" about harboring a perpetual sense of bitterness toward the opposite sex.
/r/TheRedPill24/01/14 05:35 PM
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I feel like the best thing you can do is just not make a big thing out of it. Be like, "Yeah, I let one rip. I'm gross and I DGAF." She might appreciate your cool demeanor. That said, I would suggest not farting on a date to begin with.
/r/seduction16/07/13 12:56 PM
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