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Nope. Society was never based on equality in all aspects. You’re the one acting like you aren’t aware of income inequality. So if society doesn’t care about hungry children, why in the world would society care about some man getting his dick wet? You have the same opportunity to seek a relationship as everyone else. Equality of opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:09 PM
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What’s your point
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:07 PM
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Equality of opportunity. That what our society is based on. Not equality in all aspects. Or we wouldn’t have homeless people and starving children. You have the opportunity to find a partner, do you not?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:50 AM
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Are those men chaste and family oriented? Are they chaste because they want to be chaste or because they have to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:48 AM
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There’s so such thing as equal access to someone’s body.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 11:46 AM
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Ehh I think there’s level to it. Women naturally by the nature of being a woman have a lower libido. It’s normal. So unless you are going to claim that it’s in men’s nature to be slobs then I don’t think it’s a perfect comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:03 PM
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Men also release oxytocin during sex. Both men and women who have engaged in high amounts of casual sex are more likely to cheat. This isn’t a gendered issue. The only difference is the number of partners it takes for men and women to have a higher tendency of cheating or displaying negative traits that can impact their ability to be monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:09 AM
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Cause it hurts and feels violating if you aren’t turned on??
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:50 AM
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Yea I kinda think the cat is out of the bag. Unless we can culturally go back to the mindset that marriage isn’t actually about love (eww) I don’t see men or women being happy. They know too much about the other gender and their true desires and motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:42 PM
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Then list some of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:37 PM
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I do think social media and smart phones should be limited for kids and teens but that opens a whole can of privacy concerns. Dating apps being banned would only help if social media was also banned. Affirmative action for men is a good idea. I think men are getting blamed because society sees dating as an individual affair and issue today. If you can’t find a partner that’s your problem. It’s the same for women, but I’d say they get less criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:39 PM
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Because there isn’t a solution besides force. If men don’t want to be in a beta bux relationship, where the girl is socially or economically forced to date and fuck you, but doesn’t actually desire you, what is the real solution here? Men go on and on about how the body positivity movement didn’t actually changes men’s true desires and attraction. So even if men wanted to go on a campaign and highlight different qualities in a man that women should find sexually attractive, would it actually wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 02:16 PM
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Raise them in what way and be better in what way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:50 PM
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It is a threat. A lot of women would rather civilization collapse or humanity go extinct than be forced to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:20 PM
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Who’s antagonizing them? I’m trying to wake women up to the reality of the situation
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 05:04 PM
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Society has needs that the system must meet. Women must fuck men or else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 05:03 PM
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Stealing maybe. Killing no as women aren’t as violent
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 05:00 PM
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Right. That they either get raped willingly or unwillingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 05:00 PM
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You’re just proving my point. Bodily autonomy, especially if too many woman use itchy, threatens the entire fabric of society therefore it has to be curtailed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:59 PM
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The belief leads to action. It’s why women have been subjugated for centuries and why men are threatening to return to the status quo now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 04:56 PM
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So again, women’s bodily autonomy and choices are unfair and uneven. You are proving my points.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:14 PM
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Women as a whole are in a hostage situation because men as a whole believe that their right to sex and a relationship trumps women’s rights to bodily autonomy. And men as a whole will, have and do limit women’s rights to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:05 PM
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Are you currently being deprived of the opportunity to be in a relationship and if so in what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:04 PM
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The harm you’re referring to though isn’t real, as no harm comes to someone that doesn’t exist. You’re stating that the hypothetical children that those women aren’t having is being harmed by not existing, when their lack of existence means they cannot be harmed. This thought process has lead to the subjugation and suffering of women for centuries, and I’d argue that that harm is worse than the hypothetical harm that would come if humanity didn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 03:03 PM
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It’s logical to make assumptions based on past and present actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:58 PM
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Yes, I believe wholeheartedly that everyone has the right to be celibate, even if humanities existence was being threatened. It disturbs me to even think that women should be forced to have sex with and be impregnated against their will and I see no scenario where this would be the moral position
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:45 PM
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Right they know what would happen. But they keep denying it. Women’s bodily autonomy goes against male interest and they don’t like it. They coerce women in multiple different ways to try and get around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:43 PM
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Violate women’s interest as in not wanting to be raped. Which is what you’re comparing to someone hiring someone for a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:42 PM
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Of course. Women are held hostage by men’s whims.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:39 PM
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Because they have and still do. And are actively trying again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:39 PM
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I’d argue a lot more men would do bad things if there wasn’t laws. That’s why they exist in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:37 PM
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Women are in a lose lose situation. Either fuck men they don’t like to avoid being raped (which is still rape with extra steps) or get raped forcefully. Men are stronger than women so what can woman realistically do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:37 PM
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Are men being deprived of the opportunity to pursue a relationship in the same way women were deprived of jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:33 PM
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The privilege women have is bodily autonomy, meaning they can choose who they fuck and who is in or not inside of their body.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:42 PM
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They more than likely would, like have done throughout all of history and still today. The point of the hypothetical is the point out that because men feel like it is wrong, they start to actually act on that, by coercing women so that they have to be in relationships with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:41 PM
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Yes. Men and women control their own bodies and reproductive gametes. Men control their sperm, women their eggs. As for child support. Take it up with the men who implemented and enforce those laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:36 PM
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I agree. Men will vehemently deny this because they don’t want women seriously weighing the hostage situation they are in.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 01:34 PM
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I wouldn’t, I’ve never argued women have a right to men like men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:57 PM
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They are. But it becomes a problem for women because they’re stronger and crazier.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:56 PM
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Men have a history of making their emotions other peoples problems. Repeal the 19th is a thing for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:41 PM
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Red herring
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:39 PM
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Women: points out the things men here say on a daily basis Men: so what are you basing your argument on Just lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:27 PM
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Then you wouldn’t have pointed out the obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:25 PM
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It does, all of them boils down to the thought process that women’s choices are exclusitory and therefore wrong and immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:24 PM
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I’m talking about the men here. Why do women get on here and try to be a pick me when women point out the things men here say on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:21 PM
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So men here don’t claim that women’s dating choices are wrong and unfair because they exclude too many men? 80/20? Societal collapse? Dating unfairness? 666?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:20 PM
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The hypothetical is to make it easier to understand. But this is happening today, as men here claim that some men not being in a relationship is discrimination and unfair. That women’s standards are too high. Etc etc. that all comes down to men believing that women’s mating choices are bad if they cause some men to not be able to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 12:19 PM
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Looks factor into it. Why would a woman want to sacrifice so much for a man she thinks is ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:04 PM
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I think it’s just kind of silly I guess for men to feel so slighted by this. Women see entitled, abusive women get into relationships all the time while the nice shy girl gets the short end of the stick. Why is the abusive woman treated better? Cause she’s hot. Like why are some men so surprised that hot people get more leeway than ugly people? Young girls understand this but grown adult men don’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 01:47 PM
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The average man and women are not in the same league. An average 20-30 yr old woman is a 7-9 on the smv/rmv scale. The average 20-30 yr okd man is a 4-6.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 04:12 AM
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Would modern men be ok being a relationship without love where she’s only with you because she felt like that’s what she had to do? Limited sex, limited affection? I’d say most modern men would not be ok with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:51 PM
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Lol so homely low n count women don’t exist? Why do all women have to follow your sexual morals and principles? Why can’t you find a girl that meets your standards and be happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:50 PM
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We’re talking about marriage though. A couple can cohabitate and get all the benefits without taking the tax hit by filing their taxes jointly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 06:47 PM
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Ehh I’d argue uneducated and lower class women don’t benefit more from marrying than upper class woman. Getting married messes up your taxes if you’re low income and you can lose out on multiple different subsidies or discounts if you’re a single unmarried woman or mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 04:18 PM
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Women are getting less out of the deal if they spend more economically than the man. She births the children and does the majority of child and housework. How is he compensating her for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:12 PM
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What’s the fuss? You asked why women won’t get with that specific group of men, I explained why, you basically agreed that they shouldn’t get with those men, and I said they aren’t lol. Evidenced by the low birthrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:32 PM
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Well that’s exactly what’s happening. That’s why the birth and coupling rates are collapsing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:29 PM
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Are the majority of those men able to run a household? Can they clean up to the women’s standards, cook, grocery shop, maintain the children etc? I’d argue a lot of them can’t. Plus for women who want to have children, getting with a man who makes less than you is unwise, as the reality of childbirth and the lack of nationwide maternal leave means the couple would probably struggle if she had to take a break from work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:18 PM
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It’s not an equal exchange, which is why women have rejected it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:10 PM
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So no white people today commit crimes lol? America and its allies arent killing innocent people?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:26 PM
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It’s always white people saying this like they haven’t committed genocide after genocide and started two world wars lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:41 PM
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Men think that they should be able to shout their preferences from the rooftops or demean women right to their faces and they shouldn’t be judged/shamed for it. Like you said, what women are openly and honestly telling a group of guys what they find attractive or prefer in a man? Some men need to learn to keep some shit to themselves smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:26 PM
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Sure if you want to say the sperms activates the growing process. But you as an entity were always the egg
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:42 PM
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You didn’t start in your dads balls, sperm is a fertilizer smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:27 PM
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Let’s compare how men have treated women historically to how men are being treated now. Who do you think was afforded more basic human decency?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:09 PM
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So the men they’re attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:13 PM
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Definitely is a big part of it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:14 PM
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Ehhh you could say OP is right, he is over exaggerating though. But a lot of people in relationships kind of have survivorships bias. If you look at the stats, more and more people are staying single, and men and women are having problems getting into and maintaining relationships. Now, how much that has to do with “hoeflation” I don’t know. I’d argue it has more to do with social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:07 PM
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According to the men here, pussy is the most important thing and really the only thing that woman need to offer. According to the men here, men don’t care about anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:00 PM
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Mmm you could argue that women’s whining is taken more seriously by other women, not men, as women spearheaded those movements and advocated for women. Men aren’t doing the same for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 04:25 PM
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Of course an average man can find an average woman who sees him as average and decently attractive. But that’s where the beta bux stuff comes in. If she becomes attracted to other aspects of him besides his looks, men here don’t like that. They want a woman to have intense sexual attraction to him and intense desire for him. Which is why I said they want a fairytale. They can’t just have a woman who thinks he’s decently cute and likes his jokes or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 07:52 PM
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I agree. If anything’s women are actually attracted to more men than the inverse, as women’s attraction actually grows as they age. Men’s stay the same. They always want young, thin women. Even when they’re 80. Just because a man will have sex with a woman, that doesn’t mean that he’s genuinely attracted to her. He could hate her and still want to fuck. Pump and dump. Women aren’t like that, and men don’t like it and try to paint us as bad or having high standards, when it’s actually the more mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 07:49 PM
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Yea it’s like most women know if they find someone physically attractive at first glance. Attraction can definitely grow over time through the man’s personality, charisma etc (or decrease), but men also believe that men women have to grow their attraction with are beta bux. Men basically want a fairytale and their standards are too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 11:31 AM
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If this is your argument then most men’s peak is the same as women’s, as men’s physical prime is in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 03:05 AM
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What’s the real difference? A body modification is a body modification. What if a woman is really hairy but shaves it all off before a date? Or has a mustache and shaves it? Is that not manipulative by your definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 08:47 PM
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Yea but then you could make the argument that almost any kind of body modification is manipulative. Women shave, is that manipulative too since they’re aren’t portraying what they really look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 07:56 PM
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Yea but historically men have asked women to be dependent on two people for her livelihood, her husband and then her husbands employer. Now she can skip the middle man, ie the husband, and just be employed herself directly. Thats better for an independent autonomous adult. She doesn’t have to have sex to keep her job either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:30 PM
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To the last part, they didn’t have to do much convincing. Pregnancy and having a baby does limit women’s agency and independence, it has been used as an instrument of oppression in the past and today, and motherhood was never something that society exalted in the same way we memorialize soldiers or inventors, scientists etc. Maybe society should actually put their money where their mouth is and start giving mothers the respect they claim they deserve. Like motherhood discounts similar to veteran…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 03:58 PM
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Boo hoo men let other men convince them to go die or kill other men for no reason. Yall are pathetic lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 01:28 AM
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Is there a law saying that men have to work dangerous jobs? Is there a law saying that men can’t be valued for other things than being a provider? (which most men aren’t providers anymore but I digress) Is there a law that requires society to teach men to suppress their emotions? None of these are laws besides the draft, they are just social issues. While some of them are valid complaints, you cannot compare them to the systemic, legal laws that oppressed women and removed their rights. I’m sorr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 07:22 PM
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Yes I’m sure we would all love to see a list. And I hope it contains actual legal rights, and not social privileges that women are rightfully or wrongly afforded
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:41 PM
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Why do men keep whining about the damn draft but won’t actually DO ANYTHING to try to get rid of it. Yall just keep crying about it and blaming women for it when we didn’t even implement it in the first damn place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:40 PM
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Yea like they’re literally crazy. Men set up the draft. But they’re mad at women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:33 PM
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I’m not clicking random links. What state is this? If it’s not a western state “overrun by feminists” then this has nothing to do with the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:33 PM
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A quick Google search states that no women are not in fact the majority of leaders in Baltic states.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:31 PM
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I’m sorry but it really is telling how men view women. Women’s rights and bodies are such an afterthought to men because of their unwarranted entitlement and belief that every man deserves to have a woman submit to him and give him children. It’s disturbing. Men aren’t being oppressed at all today in the same manner that women were being oppressed in the past. The little bit, but albeit justified, discrimination that men complain about today pales in comparison. But why are they crying foul? Bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:25 PM
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What proportion of women are on welfare, and how does that compare to men? Men don’t use public services, only women? If you’re going to say that men pay more taxes than women, really men pay more taxes than mothers, as single women pay the same amount of taxes as men. Mothers are limited in how much income they can make, as they’re usually the primary caregiver, so it makes sense that men as a whole are paying more taxes than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:22 PM
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Is that for women though or the leaders in power (who are mostly men)?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:20 PM
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For number 2, would making men less risk averse to marriage have any meaningful impact when it doesn’t seem like men are the ones reluctant to get into relationships? All of this is focused on men but I don’t think any of these would actually work or help. To me women are the ones opting out of relationships. I think if we are going to focus on men, we should focus on the economy and the educational system. As an educator, young men need to stop being coddled and need to be forced basically to e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 04:29 PM
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What actionable steps do you think we should take to improve relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 04:02 PM
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I’d argue it’s a course correction. A lot of humans probably didn’t want to reproduce but were forced or shamed into it. And a lot of humans shouldn’t have reproduced.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 02:58 PM
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Mmmm I think it depends on why people aren’t pairing up as much. Would these relationships be happy and healthy? If not, then it’s a good thing that they aren’t getting together just for the sake of it, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 02:54 PM
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The thing is. A woman will do all of those things or most of them for a man she actually likes and is interested in. The problem for men is that women are becoming more and more disillusioned towards men and dating. Meaning women are caring less and putting in less effort. Basically, women don’t care about relationships or courting as much as men, which you are calling unfair because men have to put more effort in. I’d argue there’s nothing unfair about it. If men want it more they gotta work fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:21 PM
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Men wanting to hookup with woman directly leads to all of your complaints. It causes men to lower their standards substantially and gas up women that don’t deserve it. Leading to women’s quote on quote high standards. It all goes back to men and their desperation to get their dicks wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:55 PM
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Maybe men should stop trying to just fuck and have casual sex? Maybe that is the problem lol. Men dont want to commit and think every man deserves to have a hoe phase then settle down later. Maybe men’s incessant need to let their dicks control them has given women way more power than they used to have because as you said, men will do anything to even just fuck. Like give women overinflated egos that lead to women being more picky. And you might want to really dig into your sources and stats bud…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:57 PM
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The best part is that the stat that OP is citing saying that women only swipe right on 5% of men also states that women have a 44% match rate while men who swipe right on more women only have a 5% MATCH RATE. Men are swiping on every and anyone and hoping they get a match while women are being more successful by being more meticulous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:25 PM
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The average age gap in the us is 2.2 years so yes a substantial amount of 28-29 year old women are dating men in their 30s. Even in 2022 it says that 40% of marriages the husband is 3 years or older. The 80/20 rule isn’t true at all in any circumstances. It’s pure delusion. The best part is that the stat that OP is citing saying that women only swipe right on 5% of men also states that women have a 44% match rate while men who swipe right on more women only have a 5% MATCH RATE. Men are swiping …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:21 PM
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As usual men are blaming women for the problems that they are creating. If men would stop being so desperate. If men would stop giving women endless sexual attention. Things would change. How were men able to oppress women for so long? (not saying that they should have obviously) but they could because they actually had standards and weren’t the desperate pathetic little men that they are today. They understood that scarcity leads to higher demand or desire. They didn’t try to fuck every woman t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:15 PM
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27, 28, and 29 year old women date men 1-3 years older than them. That skews the data. And 18-19 year old men aren’t allowed to date 16-17 year old women, which also skews the data. But let’s take the data at face value, 50% of young men are in a relationship. That’s far from the 80/20 bs yall like to push.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:03 PM
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Yea but there’s a huge difference though which OP pointed out. None of women’s contradictory standards or expectations devalues a man in the same way men’s does to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:30 PM
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It’s the monkeys paw for men I’d imagine. If the majority of women acted like that, even if they were banging “average or low average dudes” most men would be genuinely upset that so many women are “sluts”.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:24 PM
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Doctors are a vital part of a healthcare system. How does that correlate to men and women’s intimate relationships? A man is not vital to a woman’s life anymore than a woman is to a man’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:17 PM
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What’s the problem with a woman saying men don’t bring anything to a relationship? But again with this, “everything a potential partner naturally brings is brought by men that you’re not dating” kind of sounds like you want women to show their gratitude to men as a whole through sex and relationships. If men’s contribution to relationships can be out sourced to society, and individual men aren’t needed to provide these things in an intimate setting, how else do you want women to show they are gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:16 PM
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That’s what the post is about. That women’s gratefulness to society/the things men provide in general does not have to transcend into how women date or see men romantically, like some men here like to claim it should.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:59 PM
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The woman losing out on her chase to date a high class man with a high income, according to the men here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:56 PM
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Are you actually grateful though? If a gay male plumber wanted to get a taste from you you’d let him have it? As a reward for his hard work right?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:53 PM
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You’re assuming that both people are having an equally pleasurable experience. When we all know that’s not always the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:31 PM
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Once again a woman has accurately called out the men on this sub and they will deny it vehemently because they don’t want to take accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 01:24 PM
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How are you getting scraps if I outlined all the things the lady is giving/doing for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:30 PM
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I agree with this but I’d argue those men are falling into the beggars can’t be choosers category. Don’t get married if you don’t want to. But is she treating you right? Does she like you? Do you laugh and have a good time? Does she want to give you children if that’s what you want.?Then what’s the problem exactly besides their hurt ego. In the end they still get to pass on their genes and have “muh legacy”.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:56 PM
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So top tier men don’t have women on their same level. What are you basing this off of? Men’s scale and women’s scale aren’t the same and aren’t based on the same factors. What does a women need to be top tier? According to most men, really all she needs is to be physically attractive, in her 20s, and they need to be “respectful”, meaning appease his male ego. Maybe cook and clean but top tier men, meaning wealthy men, don’t really care about that they just hire a chef. Men say they don’t care ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 01:37 PM
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You said provide for their families. Women provide too but you tried to act like they don’t lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 10:52 AM
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This man is the definition of a red flag lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:03 AM
9

Cap. Those women mostly get walked over.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:01 AM
2

Only 25% of men are sole providers for their household. Men really gotta stop with this MeN aRe prOviDeRs nonsense lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:47 AM
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Women definitely calculate other attributes and characteristics when determining a man’s attractiveness. But your comment perfectly highlights my theory that some men are kind of delusional and believe men’s and women’s attractiveness scale perfectly 1:1. Idk what your body type is or exact height. Let’s assume you’re both overweight. We can also assume you guys are between 18-30 years old. An 18-30 year old, overweight female *does not * have the same sex appeal or attractiveness as an identica…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 12:42 AM
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Thank you. One could make the argument that a significant portion of “promiscuous” women are women who are attracted to a lot of men and genuinely love sex and want to sleep with them. And we all know how men treat those women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:45 PM
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They don’t want to listen to women because the “logical” gender doesn’t understand nuance and looks at everything as black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 04:34 PM
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They’re not. Men and women’s values and attributes on the smv scale are not 1:1. A man being young doesn’t inherently raise his smv like it does for women. Men have to bring more to the table to bring themselves up to the level of the average woman in terms of smv. Like you said, historically this meant men would provide (bring in money and resources). But for this to happen on a mass scale, women have to be discriminated against financially and economically, so that the vast marjoiry of men mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:23 PM
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That’s what I mean. Men view it as women dating up, when really she’s dating a man on her level. Men and woma are different. Men need to bring more to the table to compensate due to his inherently lower smv
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:32 PM
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I think the disconnect is that men don’t want to accept/acknowledge that a 50 “average” smv woman and man are not 1:1. Men are comparing apples to oranges. If a man and woman both have a job, no kids, are both skinny (even though the average in American is overweight for both men and women), they aren’t necessarily equal to each other on the smv scale. Women inherently have more smv than men. This “average” woman would actually be at about a 6-7. If she’s in her 20s and actually skinny, her smv …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:53 PM
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Right there is no full proof strategy. But as woman, you have a lot more to lose (reputation, health and pregnancy wise) by having sex too early than you do if you wait. There’s no upside for a woman to have sex super early. It’s not a guarantee of a relationship. It’s only a negative unless the woman is 100% sure she doesn’t want a relationship up front.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 07:23 PM
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As a woman you don’t need an “advantage”, you just need to protect yourself. If a man can’t wait a few weeks to have sex you’ve dodged a bullet. It’s not full proof, but it’ll weed out a lot of the men who have that manipulative mindset. Nothing is going to be 100% perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 06:36 PM
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They’ll deny it because it’s you saying it as a woman, but you’re right. Men will scream at women all day that sex doesn’t mean love for men, while simultaneously saying that women should have sex early to “prove” her love and attraction to him. But how is the man proving his love to her? Well he might fall in love with her afterrrr they have sex (but you know she isn’t entitled to a relationship) so she’ll just have to wait and see. Oh and maybe do wifey things for him in hopes he starts to fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:07 PM
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When women appeal to nature we’re saying we have the right to not sleep with certain men and if that means they don’t ge to reproduce that sucks for them but women have rights. When men appeal to nature they start talking about raping and abusing women. We are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:26 PM
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I wish everyone would stop complaining. But more women are putting their money where their mouth is than men imo. If men just want casual sex, they’re complaining about something they can pay for lol. But naw that’s too good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:13 PM
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The reality is that millions of people are considered less desirable. Everyone isnt hot. People gotta get over it. Find an average person if you’re average. Find a less than average person if you’re less than average. Men can fight and fight to have causal sex if they want. No one’s stopping them. But stop complaining that you can’t get something that most men in history and today aren’t able to get lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:12 PM
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Women don’t have to do anything if they’re ok being single. Whoever wants sex/relationships the least holds more power. And we all know how much men want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:10 PM
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Maybe they are less desired. Maybe those men should stay in their lane and stop fighting for something unattainable and settle down with a less desirable woman??
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:02 PM
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I’m gonna sound harsh. But it’s good that they don’t want to compete. It’s literally natures filter. Men, and women, who don’t get it together won’t reproduce. And I’m not saying everyone has to or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 07:01 PM
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Exactly. So men should stop whining that they can’t have casual sex like a woman can.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 06:59 PM
12

Feminine to this man means economic oppression lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:10 PM
4

If most women weren’t forced into it the birth rate and marriage rate wouldn’t have dropped as much as it did.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:49 PM
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You’re the one who is claiming a straight women is “leaning lesbian” because you as a man do not understand how female sexuality works. We are not men. We aren’t attracted to a penis just because it’s a penis. The man attached to the penis is what attracts us. Men are attracted to pussy in and of itself. Women aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:32 PM
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Yea women were forced to marry and have sex which lead to families/children. Most women don’t want to go back to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:24 PM
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Lmao yea cause looking back at human history we can definitely say they were living in paradise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:54 PM
3

Then most women lean “more lesbian”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:47 PM
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I’d argue to most women the unattractive man is more disgusting to us than a random woman would be. As a straight woman in a relationship most women I know would rather sleep with a woman than a man they aren’t attracted to. Sex with a penis when you aren’t horny hurts.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:55 PM
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For point 5 it’s more to do with supply and demand as you pointed out. If women wanted to pay other women for sexual favors, I’d imagine most women would choose to have sex with woman over a man they aren’t attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 12:54 PM
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The female beta bux. I’ve made a post about it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:37 PM
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Girl you are in the minority of a minority. Most women are not in and do not want an open relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 07:42 PM
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Men when they can’t financially enslave women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:57 PM
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Some men are protectors. Just like some women are protectors. It’s so annoying that “masculine” traits are traits that both genders can have. Mothers don’t protect their children with their lives? Women don’t protect and defend other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:35 PM
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The point is. Let’s say that it’s true that this woman’s standards are too high. What’s the solution? She’s technically only hurting herself, unless you want to make the argument that her high standards are “depriving” a man of a relationship. If that’s the argument, sure you could try to convince her to lower her standards and get her to settle. But could you get her to actually be attracted to the man she settled for? How are men going to realistically get women to lower their standards en mas…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 04:34 PM
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A normal average sex life is what you’re calling trash because you’re being unrealistic. And you have no proof a normal average sex life leads to a dead bedroom
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 07:59 PM
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Do you know what a dead bedrooms means? Sex once a week is far from a dead bedroom. It’s average. It’s normal lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 07:51 PM
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It’s not bad. I would imagine that tracks with the average woman’s libido. As a woman, sex about once a week sounds perfect and I would imagine a lot of women feel the same. We aren’t men. Men need to be realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 07:45 PM
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From a quick google search. Sex 2-3 times a month tracks and is normal. Most couples only have sex about once a week. A lot have sex less than that. Only about 20% of couples had sex more than twice a week according to this source. https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/what-to-know-how-often-married-couples-have-sex
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 07:38 PM
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So a made up scenario that wouldn’t happen lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 04:30 PM
19

Well that’s sexual assault, not similar to a nude beach but ok lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 04:22 PM
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Why can’t the man compromise and let her go to a nude beach?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 03:44 PM
2

Only 23% of men are sole providers. Women provide for men just as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 05:26 PM
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….cause men are hornier?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 11:11 PM
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Traditional gender roles focus on women being less of a negative to a man’s life. To be quiet
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 05:57 PM
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So now you’re making up interpretations, which you accused me of lmao. He didn’t say he preferred women who were quieter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 05:51 PM
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Really breakdown what you just said. A woman who doesn’t want to have sex should do it anyway or else she doesn’t respect her husband? Basic respect means duty sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 05:48 PM
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I’m sure you can read. It’s literally at the beginning of his second paragraph
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 05:44 PM
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Saying you want someone who brings you peace is not the same as saying your partner needs to be quiet. Yall are telling on yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 05:35 PM
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Then he would have said that he wanted a cooperative partner that’s nice. Instead what did he say? She needs to be quiet lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 02:24 PM
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Nope. The source says only 23% of men are the sole providers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 02:17 PM
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Who cares if they are the primary breadwinner lol. Women are bringing in income, so the majority of men are not providers. Blah blah men make more ok that wasn’t my original argument lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:46 PM
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So let’s go with your made up numbers. If the wife is working and providing income to her household, the man is not a provider (or else you have to admit that the woman is a provider too). Therefore, the husband is not a slave that buys her shit. Each couple decides who does what in their relationship. My original point still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:35 PM
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Exactly. And he can want that. Women need to be aware though that this is how a lot of men feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:32 PM
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…ok lol. Men can prefer whatever they want. As a woman on this sub, I’m reading between the lines and showing the women here what these men really want and are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:31 PM
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Lmao Far fewer husbands are the sole breadwinner in their marriage these days.The share of marriages where the husband is the primary or sole breadwinner has fallen steadily in recent decades, driven mainly by the declining share of marriages where the husband is the soleprovider – this was the arrangement in 49% of marriages in 1972, while today that share is 23%.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:28 PM
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And some men are extremely loud, obnoxious and aggressive. What’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:23 PM
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Again. I just made a post on this. Less than 30% of American men are the sole providers of their household. Men need to stop with this fantasy that they’re still protectors and providers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:20 PM
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You don’t see the difference between saying you want a cooperative partner and wanting your partner to be quiet lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 01:09 PM
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Modern women work and pay bills. If men contributing any of their income into their household means that they’re slaves who pay for women’s shit, how are women also not slaves who are paying for men’s shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:45 PM
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Using your own words isn’t “false reporting” lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:42 PM
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I mean it’s worse than that. Their mommy has authority over them and can tell them what to do, they don’t want that. If anything they want a child, someone to control that can’t speak up for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:41 PM
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Listen. I advocate for better third spaces and fostering ways for people to meet and possibly date. But that’s as far as I’m willing to go. As you’re saying, men are going to do what’s best for them. And I employ women to do the same. Women should arm themselves and be ready because men’s entitlement is only going to get worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:39 PM
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Here it is folks. What does this man want? Someone who will be seen but not heard, and will do all the domestic duties without complaint. Basically, a walking sex doll that can do chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:35 PM
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Why wouldn’t I. You think I’m telling women they’re entitled to men’s bodies and relationships with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 10:14 PM
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Oh it will. Men like him have done this over and over again throughout history.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:22 PM
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How are women punishing men as a whole? Men “doing the same thing” and saying no isn’t punishing women…. The disconnect between men and women is that men believe that not getting a relationship is a slight against them. That women have punished them. Women don’t see the lack of relationships that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:18 PM
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So you don’t like loose women but you give onlyfans, instagram hotties and porn stars thousands of dollars? You don’t like fat women but men will still fuck fat women and fat women have no problem getting into relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:12 PM
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When will men stop lying about the traits that they “reward” or how they see relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:27 PM
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If you economically disinfranchize women by making it harder for them to survive on their own, they will seek relationships for financial stability and support. This is how relationships worked historically. And the men on this sub state that this type of relationship dynamic means that the man is a beta bux. She doesn’t like you or isn’t attracted to you, but she needs your provisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:21 PM
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So incentivizing beta buxing basically?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:17 PM
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Men don’t want women to be empathetic towards this issue, because empathy isn’t enough. Men want women to date, marry and fuck them, whether they really want to or not. And anything less than that is worthless. Empathy is empty platitudes for these men. How should we address the unfairness?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:03 PM
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I just want to say, you don’t deserve to have a partner to create a family with. For the men who believe that this is “heartless, or evil” or whatever, think about what you’re advocating for. If you believe someone can “deserve” another person, you believe that that person is a reward, therefore an object. Women are not pussy sleeves for men. Women do not have to give their bodies to men in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:00 PM
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So you can’t be empathetic because women aren’t required to be with men romantically?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:51 PM
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Lmao. I’ve asked them over and over again what do women gain from being “submissive, sweet and feminine”. Women in the past got a true protector and provider. These men are just cosplaying traditionalism but want women to kiss their asses lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:47 PM
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So your wife can never guide you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:14 PM
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I do find it funny though. A large portion of those relationships would just be beta bux relationships, which is something the men here adamantly claim they don’t want lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 02:10 PM
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How are you a slave if you’re able to live your life relaxing and play video games lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 07:44 PM
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And I advocate for more child support. As a woman I don’t want to pay for men’s bastard children anymore than you do. What’s your argument for getting rid of child support? You do know single motherhood and bastard children existed before child support, correct? That’s why it was created lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:39 PM
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Mating is a game of tug and war. If men were more economically attractive, women could over look some physical attributes. But as it is, most men cannot provide, and a lot of men aren’t that physically attractive. If men aren’t going to meet their traditionally masculine role as providers, of course women are going to raise their physical preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:10 PM
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Because they’re basically admitting that a lot of men are only “civilized” if they can get a woman to be with them and have their offspring. If they can’t get that, not only do they believe that they’re being ripped off, they’re willing to get violent to either get what they want or as some sort of revenge. This is something men have always done, they’d go to war, steal the women and make “families” with them. The only thing that’s “wrong” about this new generation of men, is that they’re blamin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:00 PM
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So as a man, you advocate for strict and high child support laws correct? so that you don’t have to pay for another man’s children and subsidize the single mother lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 12:40 PM
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Smart women will indeed continue to make rational choices. My comments are for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:28 AM
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Sure from mens perspective they get more value out their relationship by being hypergamous with age and dating young women. For women, be wary of men who think like this. They want a female beta bux and they have a misogynistic thought process.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:06 AM
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If you say so
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 11:00 AM
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I did and will continue to, free platform
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 10:39 AM
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My message wasn’t for you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 10:38 AM
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Ladies, he used “premenopausal” as a psychological tool to try and make you scared so you’ll settle down earlier as that benefits men. Ignore it. Women, pre and post menopause, will always have more options than the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 10:35 AM
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Lmao girl bye like this post isn’t highlighting the mens in this subs hypocrisy. Woosh
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:47 AM
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Inability does not negate desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 08:08 PM
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I mostly agree. Especially if it’s a male child
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:14 PM
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If sexual desire is the most important thing in a relationship as men claim, why should women settle for being with a man that sexually desires other women but puts up with her or stays with her because he can continue to extract resources from her? Female beta bux
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:42 PM
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Sure a man could genuinely want to date those women. Does he also want to have sex with other woman on the side? Still a female beta bux
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:39 PM
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Honestly “tomato tomato” lol. Same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:27 PM
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Again. You can claim it’s women’s job to do this or that. Men expect that from women and that’s some of the value they extract out of women by marrying or being in relationships with them. You’re not disagreeing with my post lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:26 PM
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The woman does more household chores and child care duty. That’s all a part of the what each gender looks for in a relationship. The female vs male beta bux
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:14 PM
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Yup. And I don’t necessarily think it’s a bad thing. My only problem is that men think it’s a bad thing when women do it and they don’t acknowledge a lot of men do it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:58 PM
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The implication is that men beta bux women, but don’t want to acknowledge it. That’s it. Obviously most women won’t be the most attractive woman to their husbands and vice versa. I’d argue that doesn’t even matter though. Men state that they like variety. A woman could be the most attractive woman alive to her husband, but if he still desires other women on the side, she’d still be a female beta bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:57 PM
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The women’s attractiveness can be irrelevant. Men want variety. The woman could be the most gorgeous woman alive and she can still be a female beta bux if her man desires sex with other women on the side
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:52 PM
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I don’t necessarily think so. But according to the men here being a beta bux is the worst thing ever. So why should women want to be a female beta bux?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:48 PM
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Men definitely don’t own it. At least not the men here. And even if they do. They try to lie and say only high value men can or even want the male dual mating strategy/female beta bux, which is false
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:35 PM
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How much does a marriage cost lol. Women don’t work or provide income in their marriages lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:07 PM
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Why can’t they? The women’s desirability, while important, I would argue is way less important of a variable in the male dual mating strategy and the female beta bux. Men want variety. They admit it all day everyday. She can be borderline butt ugly, but if she’s providing the things men value (kids, household duties, income, sex etc) he’ll get with her and desire hotter women on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:48 PM
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We’re talking in circles because you’re agreeing with my post but don’t want to admit it. Why would most men pay at all if they don’t have to? Most men don’t want to pay which is why even in countries where prostitution is legal the rates of men seeing prostitutes is still low. And even still, if a man marries the whore, he still extracts the things that he values from her, the whore can still be a female beta bux lol. Is the whore still providing sex, kids and household duties? Beta bux. But yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:45 PM
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Nope. The Madonna whore complex is its own thing. With the female beta bux he can resent her too. Like men here say men and women are different. Just because he resents her doesn’t mean he won’t still have sex with her and extract whatever value he can out of her while seeking sex elsewhere or desiring sex with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:06 PM
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Sure men are held to this standard but less than half of men are the sole providers for their hosushold so I’d say it doesn’t matter because they’re still able to marry regardless. Men are opting out of their duties and still getting married
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:56 PM
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Inability doesn’t negate desire
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:52 PM
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Right because investing resources in a whore means there’s a chance he gets less value out of the relationship lmao…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:47 PM
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Women are still expected to provide for the man they choose to be their husbands as well. Provide whatever the man desires, usually children, household work and sex. Men and women are different and value and desire different things. The man might look at the wife with contempt as well as he secretly wishes he could fuck hotter women. A man doesn’t have to “provide either” more than half of them aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:45 PM
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Men’s sexual attraction threshold is so low it barely matters as he’ll more than likely be sexually attracted regardless. He’ll sleep with her while hoping and wishing other more attractive women would give him access too
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:43 PM
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He has to continue providing at least some value to the wife so he can continue to beta bux her. Just like men will say the wife will have just enough unenthusiastic sex with the beta bux husband to keep him around.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:41 PM
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Men and women are different. He might not be able to attract other woman but he still wants to. Again, his inability doesn’t negate his desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:37 PM
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His inability doesn’t negate his desire, which is what matters. And if he ever gets the ability, a lot of men will either cheat or drop their old wife like a hot potato
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:24 PM
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Why doesn’t he want to marry the whore? Because from the man’s perspective he cannot get what he values out of her and out of a potential marriage to her. He’d still possibly date and most likely fuck the whore. That’s men’s dual mating strategy. Get value out of the chaste woman as a female beta bux and fuck the whores on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:14 PM
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His inability to attract other women is irrelevant to his desire to do so. He’s not a good man when he wants to cheat and/or have causal sex but can’t. And settling means female beta bux
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:13 PM
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How are women also not valued only for the things they provide and for how useful they are. This is what I mean. Men don’t want to acknowledge that they also extract value from women in relationships because they don’t want to acknowledge women’s contributions. Women provide children, cooking, cleaning, sex and in modern times income. A woman’s physical appeal barely even matters as most men’s sexual attraction threshold is so low. He seeks these other things in a marriage with a female beta bux…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:09 PM
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Of course they are satisfied with their relationship. Because again, they get a female beta bux in most cases. Then they secretly dream about fucking other women. But as long as they’re getting somewhat consistent sex from the wife they’ll still be happy enough to stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:05 PM
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That’s the core premise for women and alpha fux/beta bux. For men it’s different. He’ll have sex with her regardless if it’s enthusiastic or not, but he’ll desire sex from other women. As the men here say men and woman are different so the dichotomy is also slightly different.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:01 PM
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She is. His inability to branch swing doesn’t change his desire and her being a beta bux
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:59 PM
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Don’t men? They invented the beta bux dichotomy. And if men only want to be valued for their physical appeal, they need to actually be physically appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:58 PM
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Proves my female beta bux point even more. Men extract value from marriage and relationships so they don’t view being single as an option because getting with a woman, almost any woman, is beneficial for them because they get kids, sex, a maid, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:53 PM
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What counts as enthusiastic. And now you’re adding more qualifiers to “sex” so that you can try to disprove my point. But let’s say the man doesn’t get enthusiastic sex. He’s still getting kids if he desires them, another source of income, and a house cleaner. She’s still a female beta bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:48 PM
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They claim women are evil and manipulative due to the beta bux dichotomy. They believe women’s dual mating strategy is harmful to men. But they do the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:46 PM
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Yes. But when women desire those things in a relationship, with a man that might not be her best or the most attractive, men claim she’s beta buxing him. But they won’t acknowledge they’re doing the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:43 PM
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The broken down stats improves my argument. Only a quarter of marriages have men as the sole provider, meaning they can’t claim most men are providers anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:41 PM
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Because it ruins their all women are evil manipulative people and victim mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:39 PM
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I agree for a lot of couples they’re both a beta bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:39 PM
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Kids, maid, sex, someone to split the bills with. That’s what men extract from female beta bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:38 PM
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How is it not the minority when only 10% of divorces end in alimony and that’s including marriages where the wife pays the husband. You don’t want to accept reality because it ruins your victim mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:36 PM
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If they have kids she’s obviously having or has had sex with him. He desires someone else or multiple other people. His inability is irrelevant to his mindset and desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:34 PM
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When she also loses her house, (most couples sell the house and split the income) half the time with her kids as 50/50 is becoming the standard more and more. And women pay spousal support as well, but again you’re bringing up the smallest 10% of divorce cases with spousal support. And when the couple doesn’t get 50/50 split custody. The woman is providing more support to the kids and paying more for the kids which is the female version of spousal support.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:33 PM
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What the woman can get is irrelevant to what the man can get and how he sees the relationship with her. Even if a woman can get an “alpha fucks” she’s still giving the beta bux value through kids, household chores and income. The man will take these things while secretly wishing he had the ability to cheat or have casual sex with attractive women like the “high value men” can. I’d say in this relationship they’re both a beta bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:30 PM
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Because men always have the option to be single. Again, unless men are slaves and must date any woman who shows interest in him. Doesn’t matter how many options women and men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:27 PM
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When women say this man is nice to me but he isn’t the most attractive, men here say he’s a beta bux. So why isn’t she a female beta bux too?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:26 PM
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This just adds to my point. Men see women as a placeholder, since their sexual attraction threshold is so low. Almost any woman will do because he’ll be attracted regardless and can extract the value that he wants from her out of the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:25 PM
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How is she exiting the relationship consequence free when she’s also losing half her stuff and is statistically worse off after the divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:24 PM
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No. Men will choose being an incel or the only woman currently interested in him Female beta bux. She’ll do because he can still extract value out of her. And it’s better than being alone because men get a good deal with a female beta bux. Sex, kids, someone to split the bills with. Desire doesn’t even matter that much since a lot of men will have sex with almost anything
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:21 PM
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This comment merely proves my point. These men get married to extract value out of the woman and get what they want. He marries her so she can birth his kids, everything they buy, even if the woman bought a lot of it as well, is his. Everything and anything relating to the marriage and woman is his property and under his ownership. Kids, house, money. This woman is a beta bux and it doesn’t matter how egalitarian their relationship can be, the man still feels entitled to claim everything as his.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:18 PM
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From the men who preach accountability. So you had no choice but to be with a woman once she picks you? You’re a slave? And what does that have to do with my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:05 PM
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Of course but a lot of men don’t see it that way
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 02:02 PM
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That means he’s staying out of some sense of obligation or guilt. Most women wouldn’t call that love and most women and I’d argue men wouldn’t want to be in a relationship with someone who felt that way towards them. What’s the difference between what you just said and a beta bux. Even when women get older there is still no shortage of men for women to choose from. But she stays because she values his contributions to the relationship, ie, his provisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:26 PM
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Who said anything about treating anyone like crap. My fiancé can’t afford to fly me out to France or something is that him treating me like crap? Men are the ones with the high standards expecting princess treatment for no reason. No a woman isn’t going to risk having casual sex with most average men because they generally aren’t worth the risk. I don’t know why the “logical” gender can’t understand this. That’s not treating you like crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 05:16 PM
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Don’t stop what? Complaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:58 AM
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I’d argue they have. Women continue to do what they want regardless of the constant criticism from men in regards to dating, their sex lives, etc. even their weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:54 AM
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I mean men have been “acknowledging” it for at least 15 years now and no one has stopped them. Everyone gets “demonized” for saying things others don’t like. It’s the internet. That’s also something men need to get over.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:45 AM
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Sure, but that’s one of the problems with social media. Average/lower class people are constantly exposed to the lifestyles of wealthier/high value people and then expect that in return. This applies to both men and women. They’re probably never going to get that treatment, and I’d argue most times it’s not malicious, its just because the other person can’t afford to give it to them (physically, financially, etc). They have to get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:36 AM
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But of course there’s a difference. Women know there’s a difference in how model tier 10/10 women are treated and the average woman. Men say that women have high standards and were brainwashed by fairytales, but that seems like projection, as men can’t handle the reality that if they aren’t a 10/10 Chad they won’t get treated like one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:26 AM
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What teachings does it fly in front of? Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is in the Declaration of Independence, but that obviously says pursuit. So where are these men getting their sense of entitlement from?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:00 PM
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I’d argue they aren’t the way men here talk. And men don’t want to be settled for either
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:46 PM
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Men need to settle for the normal restaurant as well. Stop expecting Chad treatment when you aren’t Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:18 PM
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“Meet guys where theyre at” is just fluffy language for don’t expect things I can’t provide, which means settling for lesser treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 02:19 PM
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Most females of all species are “prostitutes”. Females seek a male with competence and resources since they are the ones who invest more in their offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 11:39 AM
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That’s not lying. Women are attracted to different men. My best friend and I have never found the same men attractive. Find your niche
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 11:35 AM
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Men and women’s sexual attraction manifests in different ways. Men and women have different love languages. Women seek resources. Men seek sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 11:33 AM
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It’s 2025 most women aren’t lying
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 11:31 AM
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Men are realizing something women have realized since they were 5. Looks matter. Men are going to have to get over it honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 11:29 AM
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I think your last paragraph is the key. Average women are not expecting Stacy treatment, but average (and sometimes “low value”) men are expecting Chad treatment. And when average women don’t get Stacy treatment, they don’t start whining that the men they’re with don’t really love them like men do. Some men are expecting a fairytale relationship which they accuse women of. My only criticism would be that most average women are not having multiple sexual flings/causal relationships with Chad then…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 11:18 AM
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Well, considering we’re talking to the most bitter, whiny and arrogant men, that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:02 PM
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You just don’t want to hold men accountable for upholding circumcision 🤷🏽‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:02 PM
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All I’m doing is refuting your claim that it’s solely women who want their children circumcised. Men follow it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:27 PM
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I didn’t want our son circumcised, his father did. Lots of men want their sons to look like theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 12:43 PM
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You think they’re just gonna leave the rest of humanity alone? They don’t need you anymore. They have all the money and power. We work for them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:23 AM
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Do men not realize that if we develop artificial gestation then humanity as a whole is irrelevant? Why would the elites need billions of people when they can engineer their own slaves lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:44 AM
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Yes, survivorship is successful. Nature/biology doesn’t give a damn about us having cell phones and cars. Ironically, we have all these modern luxuries, but we have the lowest birth rates in history. Men made all this stuff for nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:41 AM
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Not really cause infants can’t survive without their mothers breastmilk. There were no alternatives back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 09:17 PM
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Most of the calories for prehistoric humans were obtained by women foraging. Men obviously played their part and definitely protected and hunted for the tribe. But women didn’t just sit back and watch and I’m tired of men believing that they’re the sole reason for humanities continued survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:13 PM
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Whose role takes 9 months to complete. Whose role requires the use of their body to keep the infant nurtured and alive. Women are more important sexually and for reproduction
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:10 PM
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Yes, we needed men to do all the dirty work we didn’t want to do. We’d still survive without you though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:08 PM
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I don’t know if we can as if seems like men and women’s sexually strategies are in direct opposition. Hoping to be proved wrong though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 07:03 PM
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Idk really. The birth rates going down drastically. We’re gonna hit a wall real soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:57 PM
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😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:56 PM
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They lived in mud huts, but were surviving. I see no problem then lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:46 PM
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I don’t have an ideal version. I’m merely stating that men were the “dominate” sex for so long because they are physically stronger than women. But we can see in species we’re the males aren’t, that those males usually aren’t treated very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:45 PM
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Men compete because they are sexually less important/necessary than women. All males don’t need to mate, and males benefit from having “harams” so they eliminate some of the competition. The reason why males are stronger than woman and have a more extreme bell curve with more stupid men and more intelligent men than woman, is because they are natures test dummies. Chimps can make new tools or weapons, but the bonobos are surviving and at the end of the day that’s all that really matters
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:40 PM
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I mean you said it not me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:33 PM
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They always conveniently forget/didn’t see the misogynistic stuff men here write lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:33 PM
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I could care less if you don’t respect me hun lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:30 PM
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Men respect women as humans Lmao sure Jan
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:23 PM
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Once again, we don’t need any of these modern luxuries to survive lol. We survived for most of our history without it. I’m not thanking any man since men don’t thank women for birthing and taking care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:22 PM
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Mmmm history tells us that we kind of are, which is why women weren’t/aren’t the ones sent to the military meat grinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:19 PM
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When we get there most humans will be redundant/unnecessary so what ya gonna do. It’s not like the elite are going to keep around a billion men for no reason. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:19 PM
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Never said it would be easy. Obviously most women would pass away during the initial period and the population would stabilize back down to 100,000 like it was for the majority of our time on this planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 06:17 PM
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Thankfully women “doing her share” isn’t fucking and having kids with a man who repulses her anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:56 PM
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Who cares about keeping society where it’s at today. We were talking about women surviving. We don’t need any of this modern stuff to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:48 PM
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Reality/truth isn’t misandry
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:47 PM
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Men can be “better” all they want, but since they can’t create more of themselves women are de facto more important lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:44 PM
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If humanity’s existence relies on the subjugation of women it deserves to go extinct
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:38 PM
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Never said that they didn’t, I said that they are falling quickly, which they are. The falling fertility rate is a global phenomenon that no country is escaping.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:35 PM
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Humans survived thousands of years without all these modern luxuries and historians say that most of our prehistoric calories were actually acquired by women foraging. We’d be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:32 PM
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Those are falling quickly as well. Women are finally being set free
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:31 PM
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Ehhh most middle eastern countries are falling quickly and are barely at 3, with a lot of them below replacement already. Give it a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:29 PM
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I truly believe that men should be thankful that they were physically stronger than woman, as that’s the only reason why they were able to oppress women for so long. Now that physical strength isn’t necessary, well you see what’s happening to the birth rate and relationships. Humans could mate like bees, we’re all the bees are females because they kick all the males out after mating because they only cause problems/aren’t necessary. And I’m not saying that to hate on men, but it’s the reality th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:20 PM
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So you admit a traditional marriage is indentured servitude
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:20 PM
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Women have got to accept/acknowledge that there are a lot of misogynistic men who want to rape, control and abuse women, they haven’t gone away and they haven’t changed. Women were subjugated for thousands of years for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 07:56 PM
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How long do you think a woman should make a man wait if she likes him to make sure he’s really into her and not just down to fuck? No one’s talking about having sex on the first night here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:46 PM
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It goes hand in hand. Most men, as long as the woman is even decently attractive, aren’t going to pass up an “easy lay”. They’ll drag her along for a while even if they don’t like her. Approaching men puts women in a way worse position to get taken advantage of. There’s no real fun in it. If men didn’t go around Willy nilly labeling women as sluts and hoes this wouldn’t be a problem but it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:41 PM
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Men don’t get taken advantage of in the same way though. Unless a woman is going to withhold sex for months on end to make sure the guy isn’t in it for just the sex, she risks losing “value” on the market and risks men labeling her a slut. The risk isn’t the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:29 PM
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Yea. Human nature and all that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 01:21 PM
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Women are largely viewed as oversized, incompetent children by men, and most lawyers, policemen and judges are male.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 07:58 AM
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Waiting for that study. My fiancé wanted our son circumcised while I didn’t, as I thought it was harmful and unnecessary. I left it up to him as he’s a man and he’s fine with his, so our son got it done.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 07:54 AM
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What did she mean by more energy? I’m assuming she was more extroverted and a person who is active and always on go and you aren’t? I would categorize that under introverted vs extroverted. I know as an introverted person I wouldn’t date someone who wants to go out all the time because it drains me, and I’ve heard that for extroverted people not going out drains them. I’d say that’s a rather big incompatibility, but I don’t know the ins and outs of your relationship. For the second paragraph, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:36 PM
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So one crazy woman is indicative of millions of women? And to play devils advocate. Someone’s interest can say a lot about the type of personality they have. Often times, men who are into comics and superhero movies are more “geeky”, “nerdy” or introverted and one could argue that not dating someone due to vast/extreme personality/character differences isn’t petty. Couples don’t have to like the same things. But if you don’t like any of the same things, that relationship is unlikely to last.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:06 PM
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He doesn’t have to. But this mindset is what gives women more “power” in the dating market. Men are more willingly to date “down ” more if they get consistent sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 06:36 PM
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If men want to argue that they aren’t obligated to put women in certain positions in the society that “they created” that’s fine, but men also don’t have a right to oppress woman in that same society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:49 PM
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There’s a very fine line. However, my response was focused on the op saying that love should trump someone being a negative. A negative doesn’t mean petty differences or small arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:07 PM
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Maybe women aren’t reproducing with the men they do like because those men are taken, and for most women it is still socially frowned upon to be a baby mama. Remove that barrier first and then we can see what happens lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:34 PM
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This coming from the same group of men who tell women to “choose better” when they get used or abused in a relationship lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 09:50 AM
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If women have a “responsibility to reproduce”, why does it have to be with men they don’t like? Women can easily reproduce with chads and be baby mamas to complete their “duty”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:28 PM
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As a black woman, nope. Stop using black people for your pathetic attempt at a gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:33 PM
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How is your last paragraph not an argument for women being forced to wear burkas in the Middle East? Women are blamed for manipulating or exploiting men’s “vulnerability” just by existing. What you’re saying is a very slippery slope and indirectly leads to misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 10:23 PM
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So again, how are the most common occupations for women redundant and overpaid? Teachers, customer service representatives are overpaid? Are the millions of men in these positions also doing redundant work and should be sent back to the mines?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 07:59 AM
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These are redundant, overpaid positions? https://www.dol.gov/agencies/wb/data/occupations/most-common-occupations-women-labor-force
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 07:45 AM
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How are ”careeer” women “free riding”?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 05:58 AM
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The woman’s time and body obviously is which is why men claim that that “consentual” sex degrades her and makes her “used up”. He ruins her value
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 11:30 AM
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Here is a Journal of Happiness Studies study on the effects parenthood on life satisfaction in old age. AIDL means Instrumental Activities of Daily Living, aka how physically independent you are. * This article investigated potential differences between parents and childless women and men in the development of life satisfaction over the course of aging. Theoretically, while having children should not affect life-time well-being of well-informed rational actors, it may affect well-being in later …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:05 PM
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To your last point, perceived options could definitely impact desire and/or willingness for someone to enter a relationship. And as long as they enter that relationship willingly, and have an option to opt out, I don’t necessarily think it’s a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 09:04 PM
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Riiight. So in terms of how immoral a lot of men are, they give women the choice between slavery or death
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:08 PM
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These men really don’t want to accept the reality that their forefathers treated woman as subhuman objects to be bought, sold and raped, and that their lives are a by product of that injustice. I get it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:06 PM
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Vagina. And the men here claim that’s the most important thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 06:00 PM
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Run away and…die? Abandon her family? It’s not like today where she has a lot of great options. Slavery or destitution
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 05:54 PM
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It’s because a lot of men think that they’re hot shit when they’re not. Men of the past had a false sense of security, thinking that they would be able to attract a woman easily if she wasn’t forced economically and socially to be with him. Now, a lot of men are realizing where they stand, and they’re panicking because they don’t have anything to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:37 PM
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It’s not really about “lost opportunities for women to have sex with Chad”. It’s really about women not being forced to pair up with men that they don’t want to be with. Would you be OK with enforced monogamy, but woman being able to or it being socially acceptable for women to opt out of relationships and stay single? In that scenario men would still be “deprived of a relationship”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:18 PM
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Sure Jan lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:03 PM
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They cannot, as a woman cannot make themselves pregnant, and one must be or make someone pregnant to be a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:28 PM
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The woman and man have the same rights. The right to control their bodies and their sex gametes. There is no inequality here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:27 PM
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The woman is not exercising control over the man’s body anymore than the man is exercising the same control over hers, as she is also caring for and providing for that child.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:09 PM
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Can women force a man to become a parent? Who impregnates who?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:00 PM
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That analogy is not akin to how conception works. Here is a better analogy. Picture a feeding tube that has two ends. Both the man and the woman consent to suck on the feeding tube, but only the man has peanut juice on his side of the tube that he can control. He can choose to blow on the tube and shoot peanut juice into the woman’s mouth. The woman is a participant, but she is not the agent. The man would cause the woman to have a reaction through his choice. You are trying to argue that men do…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:58 PM
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Do men get pregnant?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:47 PM
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Riiight. So you’re actually removing agency from the man by arguing that the woman is responsible for controlling the man’s body.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:44 PM
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Women have agency. You cannot be responsible for someone else’s actions however, and the woman is not in control of a man’s sperm
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:38 PM
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Women have the right to control their bodies and sex gametes, men have the same right. Men can’t compel a woman to carry an unwanted pregnancy because that would allow the man to control the woman’s body. Thats where the inequality lies. Women cannot control men’s bodies and men shouldn’t be able to control women’s. Once a baby is born, both parents are required to care for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:34 PM
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Men and women do have equal rights. Men choose to become or not become a parent upfront when he is in control of his body and his sex gametes. Ie, he controls where his sperm goes. A woman controls hers. That’s equality. If the baby is born both are required to care for it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:22 PM
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But they do. They don’t get to decide if the baby stays in the woman’s body or not, however. A man decides to impregnate a woman, she cannot impregnate herself, therefore he is the acting force or agent. I would argue that consent to sex does not equal consent to pregnancy only applies to women, since they are not in control of their sex gametes like men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:01 PM
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If reckless procreation was “to get as much hate as men refusing to put up with it”, I would argue men would then receive or would deserve even more hate. Men impregnate women. Therefore, that reckless pregnancy was caused by them. They are the acting force, the agent, but are mad that their sperm does what they sent it out into the world to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:56 PM
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Do you tell men who want submissive and meek women that they need to be submissive and meek?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:47 PM
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Does a woman need to be any of those things for a man who’s looking for something casual? That’s what the sexual revolution was about. Casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:14 PM
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That’s how most men treat sex, like a hug that you can give to anyone. And statistically (most people have less than 4 lifetime sexual partners) and in comparison to men, the vast majority of women are not promiscuous. Most women could sleep with hundreds of men, but men scoff and call a woman a slut for giving even 5 men sexual access. If men had access to hundreds of women to have sex with, he’d sleep with dozens and dozens of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:47 PM
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If men are doing it of their own free will, how is it not equality? Men and women are equally able to pursue or not pursue someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:30 PM
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I don’t think you can argue that men altruistically let women break out of their gender roles, or at least most of them. Men dropped most of their expectations of women because they believed it would result in more sexual opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:28 PM
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Most men want sexual variety. They want to “bound” (I’m assuming you mean bond), with multiple different women. This means that for men, sex isn’t as meaningful or intimate as you’re trying to make it seem. It would be more akin to a hug. You hug your friends and family, we use hugs to initiation physical touch and affection. We give hugs out to multiple different people, some we are extremely close to and some not so much. Men are the ones who cheapen the mystic and emotional levels of sex sinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:52 AM
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Finally a man admits that most men are pedophiles
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 04:37 PM
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Are men pressed about it? Are they doing something to change it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 04:41 AM
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Do any of those things involve men giving up their bodies for someone else? Cause that’s ultimately what these men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 10:43 PM
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Then you can’t blame women either. Sexual attraction is amoral (as long as no children are involved) and relatively unchanging and men are unwilling to accept a stable, non sexual marital relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 10:15 PM
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Whats a stable relationship to you? Would you be ok with a woman getting with an average man and not desiring to be with him sexually? She gives him children, does her fair share, is kind and caring but doesn’t want to have sex after the children are born. Is this a deal most men would accept?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 10:07 PM
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Currently, women are choosing who they marry, so one would assume that women today are attracted to their husbands. Has that always been the case? Men have more testosterone than women, biologically they are hardwired to find more women attractive. If a man doesn’t get Ana de Armas, he has a greater chance of being satisfied with an at least average woman. Women are not hardwired this way. You’re angry at biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 09:51 PM
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With your last point about patriarchal leaders “putting unlimited privilege aside for the sake of loyalty and stability” I think this is the crux of the problem. Men find women more attractive in aggregate than women do. This means that while a “high value man” is giving up his hedonistic desires to sleep with dozens of women, the woman he chooses to wife will more than likely be someone he is still sexually attracted to regardless. And when it comes to average and below average men, they benefi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 07:15 PM
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Right. So men aren’t being oppressed and there’s no problem that needs to be solved. Women are free to have whatever expectations and desires they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:45 PM
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What rights did men lose by women gaining rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:40 PM
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Yea those were systemic changes to fix economic and political conditions, most of which were unfair. Relationship are not an economic or political issue, it’s social, and requires the consent of another person to achieve. Women’s free will is not an oppressive force on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:15 PM
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Ok but what is “acknowledging the imbalance” going to do if there’s no real solution as neither men nor women are willingly to change and adapt. Men don’t want to stop simping, and women aren’t going to stop being attracted to/date high status men when given the option
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:13 PM
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But as you said. Women are choosing to do those things of their own free will. This isn’t some systemic oppression that men are facing by women, unless you’re going to argue women’s free will oppresses men. And the only reason why women are able to have higher standards, gravitate towards the top portion of men is because of men and their lower standards. It’s human nature to seek the best option you can get, so again, unless you’re arguing that women’s options or ability to choose certain optio…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 11:04 PM
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But how would you fix the “imbalance” when women are not causing it by suppressing men’s rights or doing other nefarious things. The imbalance exists because women have more options because men are hornier. How are you going to fix that? When the imbalance was skewed the other way, it was because of systemic discrimination against women. That’s not what’s happening here though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 10:22 PM
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Is the man going to compensate the woman for the bodily harm caused by getting an abortion? How does that calculate into this abortion “equality” equation. The man walks away unharmed and the woman has to deal with medical bills and bodily harm. How will we make this equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:13 PM
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I didn’t. I never stated my opinion on what that girl did. Just that I value freedom above security.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:23 PM
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Did I say that I thought what she did was wrong or that her parents should have stopped her from engaging with this man?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:42 PM
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Considering she was a child, society has determined that security is more important than freedom for children. Do you think children should be able to do whatever they want? One could argue that the parent child dynamic has a degree of subjugation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:22 PM
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You can disapprove of something and still believe someone should have a right to do it/believe it/want it. Freedom versus anything else. If you aren’t free you’re a slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:43 PM
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