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If you act like a dominant, alpha male type you're going to attract women who "need a dominant, alpha male type" If you want things to be equal or not be socially/physically dominant then act that way and you will attract women who are attracted to that. Sure, there may be less of them than women who want an alpha, but they are out there and you will be multitudes happier. It all seems fairly reminiscent of that ol' Shel Silverstein poem. http://edonn.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/masks.jpg
/r/seduction20/10/13 04:36 AM
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Check out /r/malefashionadvice Seriously, it's great. They tend to dress a bit more conservatively than most, but there's something for everyone there, check out the sidebar for sure. If money is an issue, supplement the advice you get from /r/mfa with /r/frugalmalefashion
/r/seduction09/10/12 08:28 PM
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What does the SlutWalk movement have to do with the feminists holding and posting "Tell men not to rape" signs? The movement is about changing societal standards. Also, the 2nd study you linked to I couldn't reach, it asked me for 45 dollars just to read it, but I managed to find a free version. The study reached its conclusions by interviewing 12 people. I agree, male rape victims are treated unequally to female rape victims, but I haven't heard of anyone saying that being male meant that they …
/r/MensRights01/07/12 10:38 PM
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Isn't that partially the point though? Men aren't shamed for sleeping with a lot of women, yet women are shamed for sleeping with a lot of men. Slutshaming men doesn't really happen on a mass scale. To fight against it would largely be fighting a problem that largely doesn't exist. I agree, I want them for both, but in the last 2 years there has been a rise of people trying to take away reproductive rights away from women, meaning neither will have any.
/r/MensRights30/06/12 09:00 PM
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The gender disparity is that most women do not seek dangerous/dirty manual work. There are no claims of discrimination against women seeking manual work. There are, however, claims of discrimination against women seeking top level occupations. That's a false equivalency. Most feminists do not oppose men's reproductive rights. In fact, every feminist I've talked to is in support of it as a way of "sharing responsibility" I don't see how that promotes a female supremacy. I agree with you, there sh…
/r/MensRights30/06/12 03:23 AM
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Such as what? Breaking the glass ceiling isn't advocating for supremacy. Maintaining reproductive rights isn't advocating for supremacy. Bringing awareness to and ending slut shaming isn't advocating for supremacy. What types of rights are feminists asking for that would give them supremacy over men?
/r/MensRights30/06/12 02:28 AM
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Sexist? In what way? Reproductive rights for both.
/r/MensRights30/06/12 01:07 AM
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I've never met a feminist ask for supremacy over men, but okay buddy, that's what they're fighting for.
/r/MensRights29/06/12 02:17 PM
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Hardly, it's more equivalent to saying that Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell do not decide the beliefs of all Baptists. Feminism is not a bureaucracy with a rigid hierarchical system like the Catholic church it. To compare the two is a false equivalency.
/r/MensRights29/06/12 04:06 AM
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That's why I said for example. Would it detrimental to men though if these goals were achieved?
/r/MensRights29/06/12 03:00 AM
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I'm not fighting for or against the wage gap. I was using it as an example of a goal of the feminist movement. Again, I'm not knowledgeable enough on the subject to argue for or against on the topic.
/r/MensRights29/06/12 02:39 AM
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Why would eliminating the glass ceiling or providing easier contraceptives to women for example be detrimental to men?
/r/MensRights29/06/12 02:38 AM
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If your hypothetical is correct, then there isn't. If your hypothetical is correct then I agree with you 100% That's what's controversial about it, no one 100% knows the reasons for its existence, whether it's implicit reasons like that, or explicit discrimination. I personally haven't researched the issue enough to take a stance either way.
/r/MensRights29/06/12 12:19 AM
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If there are quotas for both sides, I don't see what the issue here is.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 11:42 PM
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What argument? My argument was that it existed, not that it was due to discrimination.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 10:03 PM
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Bell Hooks and "feminist academics" do not decide the beliefs of the entire feminist movement. Being a feminist by definition is pushing for the advancement of female rights. You don't need to be sexist like Bell Hooks to be a feminist.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 08:09 PM
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If every independent study has shown that, please cite them. Every study I've seen shows that it exists, but none seem to agree on the cause.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 08:06 PM
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No, it hasn't. The wage gap is real, but the thing that makes it controversial is what causes it. Some feminists say it's discrimination, some say it's because of other factors such as women working less hours traditionally, taking lesser paying jobs that are less dangerous, etc. It exists, whether it is discrimination that causes it is the question, which most MRAs say it isn't.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 07:39 PM
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Not considered a radical feminist by whom? I haven't even heard of Bell Hooks before your post and I texted a few of my female friends who identify as feminists if they have, and 2 of the 3 said they hadn't and the one that had said that she's a bit of a feminazi and doesn't agree with her at all. It seems that you're saying that Bell Hooks speaks for all feminists and the feminist movement. That's equivalent to saying that Richard Dawkins speaks for all atheists or Glenn Beck speaks for all con…
/r/MensRights28/06/12 07:28 PM
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I didn't say that it is caused my discrimination. I just said that there's a wage gap. That's a fact. Whether it is caused by discrimination is what is controversial and to be honest I'm not informed enough on the topic to take a stance on it. The thing that annoys me is when people say that it doesn't exist. Regardless of whether it is due to discrimination, the wage gap DOES exist. That's a statistical truth.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 07:25 PM
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You cite something from the link I provided, then say that the link I provided isn't credible. Aren't you kind've shooting yourself in the foot there? Not only that, you're completely wrong about what the CONSAD study actually said, their conclusion is: It is not possible now, and doubtless will never be possible, to determine reliably whether any portion of the observed gender wage gap is not attributable to factors that compensate women and men differently on socially acceptable bases, and hen…
/r/MensRights28/06/12 06:19 PM
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You cite from the link I provided, then say that the link I provided isn't credible. Aren't you kind've shooting yourself in the foot there? Not only that, you're completely wrong about the study you're citing, the actual conclusion they reached is:
/r/MensRights28/06/12 06:16 PM
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I'm glad you're proud that you've been in your secret club house longer than the next guy. It obviously makes your opinions justified and infinitely more valuable.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 06:02 PM
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Well, aren't you a charmer. People like you give our movement a bad name.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 05:31 PM
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Why can't both sides help each other? What I'm seeing is the comments of this submission is an Us vs Them attitude that doesn't need to exist.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 05:31 PM
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It's controversial as the studies regarding it don't often have sufficient controls. I suggest you read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male%E2%80%93female_income_disparity_in_the_United_States#Explaining_the_gender_pay_gap The wage gap has far from been disproven, nor is it a lie. It's a statistic that has been partially explained by work patterns, hours worked, maternity leave, etc., but there are also examples of discrimination when it comes to hiring and promotion opportunities. Considering I'm…
/r/MensRights28/06/12 05:30 PM
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I'm here to try and sell tolerance to you. Sounds like it's a lost cause, at least for you personally.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 05:24 PM
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Agreed.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 04:06 PM
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Likewise I'll believe that MRAs are really egalitarians when they start joining the SlutWalk Movement and fighting for their reproductive rights. Seriously, this is just proving my point that these things go both ways. Neither movement can claim to be egalitarian when they're both demanding that the other side support their gender before they support the other's.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 03:31 PM
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I have considered that, and I think it's awful and should be fixed. I'm absolutely arguing in good faith, and my post history in his subreddit on this topic only extends to the last 24 hours, mostly responding to comments that people post on my own. I'm a bit concerned that anyone who posts a differing opinion to the majority is labeled as a troll instead of accepting the fact that different people within a movement have different ideas and thoughts.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 02:54 PM
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I don't think I've seen any MRAs fighting for female rights, nor any submissions here regarding any of the inequalities that women face. Couldn't the feminists say the same? They support equal rights for both genders but they choose to focus on advancing the rights of the female gender, while we're doing the exact same?
/r/MensRights28/06/12 02:51 PM
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You're comparing the right to choose a career to the right to opt out of child support? Don't accuse me of using strawmen when you seem to have no qualms about using them. Advocating for one groups right to choose without doing it for another's, when they have no choice, is essentially advocating for that group's supremacy. I agree with you to an extent. If the feminist movement wanted to be seen as egalitarian they should also be fighting for men as well. But the same could be said about the MR…
/r/MensRights28/06/12 02:48 PM
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Have you read what the bill does? The bill provides that the FDA can approve generic versions of drugs, drastically reducing the price of medication. The bill requires that companies have a 85:15 spending on healthcare:everything else ratio rather than the past situation where the ratio was 55:45-60:40 in most cases. Healthcare insurance exchanges begin in every state, creating greater competition in prices for insurance companies. Those are just three provisions off the top of my head. More cou…
/r/MensRights28/06/12 02:45 PM
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In the last 24 hours I've been downvoted and told that I'm not an MRA, but I still consider myself an MRA. Why? Because I'm for the advancement of men's rights. So yes, that's exactly my argument. If you support the advancement of the rights of females, you're a feminist, by definition. If you support the advancement of the rights of males, you're a men's rights activist, by definition. Regardless of if you're as extreme as the rest of your membership.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 02:33 PM
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I'm not going to argue that, I'm going to argue that they're radicals in the movement that they're a part of. To paint the entire movement based off of the writings of their radicals seems hypocritical when we hate to be called misogynists based off of the actions of some of MRA's radicals.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 02:27 PM
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They passively made that choice? The Women's Rights Movement fought for years to have equal access to employment and the ability to enlist in the military.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 02:26 PM
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I hadn't heard of them until joining this subreddit and none of my feminist friends had either. In fact, all of those beliefs except Patriarchy theory are noticeably absent from the feminist wikipedia page. It seems that we're painting the entire feminist movement with the same broad generalization based off the writings of the radicals in their movements. I can't help but think it's hypocritical to call all feminists men-haters based off of their radicals yet hate it when they call all MRAs mis…
/r/MensRights28/06/12 02:24 PM
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Why can't we do both fight the wage gap as well as fighting to get the 94% workplace death ratio down for men? They aren't polar or competing goals.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 02:21 PM
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That's not true at all. Most of the feminists I know had no idea what the "rape culture" theory was until I explained it, and the ones that did don't believe in it. In fact, if you go on the Wikipedia page for feminism and look for "rape culture" it isn't even there. For something that's a founding tenant, it's noticeably absent.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 02:19 PM
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Isn't the feminist movement largely the exact same then? The female friends of mine that are feminists are fighting for female rights but when I ask them, they also claim to be egalitarians, just aren't fighting for male rights.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 02:16 PM
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Let me try and make my point clear by changing the above statement. Men's Rights Activists for the most part cannot be worked with. They have been indoctrinated with mountains of lies and have developed intellectually dishonest thought patterns. We need to stop people from becoming MRAs before it is too late. What if someone had posted that based on the crazy beliefs of some of the extremists in the MRA movement? Let me fix my analogy then. If we as the MRA movement don't want to be painted with…
/r/MensRights28/06/12 02:14 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male%E2%80%93female_income_disparity_in_the_United_States This one.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 02:12 PM
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In most the the industries you noted there is no domination by either gender.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 02:11 PM
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That's the thing though, most of those theories are not widespread in the feminist movement. I have several female friends who identify as feminists yet had no idea about the patriarchy theory nor believe in rape culture. To paint all feminists with the same broad brush is absolutely ridiculous and is the exact type of generalization that I thought the MRA was fighting against when it is done to men.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 05:37 AM

I don't think I've seen a single post in this subreddit highlighting any of the inequalities that any group other than men face. Based off of that I find it hard to say the MRA movement is fighting for all rights rather than just Men's Rights.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 05:25 AM
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Based on what crazy and unscientific beliefs exactly? That women are at a disadvantage in SOME areas? If you honestly believe that women are either equal or at an advantage in every area of life then you're severely misguided. Both genders are unequal with both being having disadvantages or advantages in varying areas.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 05:22 AM
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And how convenient was it that it was around the time of the industrial revolution, which offered them jobs that were much less dangerous and that they would be more comfortable with? So is it your point of view that they should just get over the fact that they had no choice beucase "Hey, they had good jobs, they should've been grateful", instead of giving them the choice to have those jobs, or the dangerous, manual labor jobs, or be a soldier? I agree that the goal should be equality, and that …
/r/MensRights28/06/12 05:20 AM
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I completely agree.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 05:04 AM
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If the issue that the Supreme Court is deciding is on the individual mandate, and they are allowed to throw out specific parts of a bill without throwing it out entirely (as we saw with the Arizona law ruling), why would the ACA get thrown out entirely?
/r/MensRights28/06/12 05:03 AM
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So if neither had a choice, then why is it an issue if one party fights for the right to be able to make that choice? A major part of the feminist movement was having equal footing in the workplace, and a major step was being able to enlist in the military.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 05:02 AM
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Why not? Several of my female friends are feminists. They don't hate men, or MRAs. They fight for things like closing the wage gap or eliminating the glass ceiling while we're fighting unequal treatment under the law in criminal trials as well as marriage and child custody civil trials. These are not polar or opposing goals, and I support them in their fight as they support me in mine, so when I see posts saying that all feminists are men-haters, I do get a little annoyed.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 04:58 AM
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Considering women weren't allowed to do that type of labor nor fight in wars if whether they wanted to or not, it seems as though using those examples is a bit faulty.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 04:53 AM

That's a generalization and a half. I thought part of the MRA movement was to fight generalizations against men. Why then are you so quick to make sweeping generalizations about feminists?
/r/MensRights28/06/12 04:50 AM
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May I ask you're opposed to it other than the biases listed here?
/r/MensRights28/06/12 04:48 AM
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That's not true at all. The agencies and mandates noted would still be in effect, regardless of the individual mandate. The bill provided for other means of funding the reform other than having everyone buying healthcare insurance, such as increasing the amount of money private insurance companies must spend on actual healthcare with the 85:15 mandate.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 04:47 AM
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Why would they throw out the whole bill if they're only deciding the constitutionality of the individual mandate? They're allowed to throw out parts of a bill, they did so just a few days ago with the Arizona bill.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 04:45 AM
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Sure the bill is biased towards women, but what did any of that have to do with the individual mandate that is being ruled upon? None of that stuff ceases to exist based on if the individual mandate gets stricken down or not.
/r/MensRights28/06/12 04:04 AM
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He thought it was necessary that someone else make a post?
/r/MensRights02/06/12 05:59 AM
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It's worse when you click more info https://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=Define%3A+rape#hl=en&sa=G&pws=0&q=rape&tbs=dfn:1&tbo=u&ei=7SmjT-HiCojM9QSTzpRM&ved=0CB4QkQ4&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=5fd8887cc3ebdf49&biw=1440&bih=775 Tertiary Noun Definition: The abduction of a woman, esp. for the purpose of having sexual intercourse with her Verb definition: (of a man) Force (another person) to have sexual intercourse with him without their consent and against their will, esp. b…
/r/MensRights04/05/12 01:00 AM
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It's a tag, RES allows you to tag users with flair only you can see, to help keep track of who people are. This guy just happened to have tagged you with "Bigot"
/r/MensRights13/12/11 10:49 PM
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