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It's only entitlement if you feel like women as a group are mostly bad people because your not sleeping with anyone. It fine to be not getting any action. It fine to say hey it sucks that I'm not not getting any action. It's not okay to say I'm not getting any action because all women want is dude bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:44 AM
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Yes but that was also true my girlfriend who as a woman had to wait 15 years to find me as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 01:29 AM
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It can take a really long time to find someone who is both what your looking for and is also looking for the kind of person you are. It took me 18 years to find the kind person I could be in a loving relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:04 PM
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Women are just human beings same as men. Yes they are pretty but they also as individuals have their own good traits, bad traits, interests, and goals. When you view women as prize vs viewing them as a person you want to be friends with ( even if that means romantic friendship) then your already on the wrong path.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 04:01 PM
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What I'm getting at is that to many guys I this subreddit and in this world are having no look with women because they see them as a beautiful but eldritch horde. Women can tell when all you care about is her looks or getting her in her bed. If you want to have a relationship then you ultimately have to want to be friends with that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:15 AM
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Yah but it's a double edged sword because oftentimes their worth becomes only their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:09 AM
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You guys know there is way more to women than just looks. Like yah they are pretty as hell but then on top of that they are actual people guys with like interesting personalities and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:06 AM
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Someone women do crappy things to guys and some guys do crappy things so women. Sometimes it's because the person is a bad person, usually it's because the person is very immature. Most people of both genders are nice people who treat their partners very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 01:55 AM
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Some advice tho for the ladies when it comes to online dateing. Please for the love of all things good actually try swiping right and then messaging some guys. Any one of you could literally bag Ryan Reynolds just by sending " hey you like video games huh" text it really is that sad out there for the guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:13 AM
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Any other Sci-fi survival recommendations?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:01 AM
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I think the Martian was a little better to but Rocky was hard not to like.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:59 AM
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It's junk food TV like watching pro wrestling.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:58 AM
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Absolutely. Me and my girlfriend both like movies especially fantasy stuff. We also both like cooking and baking and were both artists. I play chess and like medieval history. She does diamond painting andike watching old 90's TV shows. In the end it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:51 AM
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What did you think of project heil mary?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:47 AM
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Fair enough though I still prescribe to the 2 points of contact rule for friendship. Where you must have at least 2 things in common with a another person to be friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:44 AM
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If you would like help with this I can actually help. I use to have awful social anxiety and was sliding into cel dom when I basically got my self out of it and now i have a awesome girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:35 AM
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That can actually be problem depending on geography but try book stores, libraries, and anything with a slightly alternative vibe. If your not opposed to online dateing I find it helpful for us "nerds" so long as you go don't go in with crazy expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:31 AM
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Modern dateing sucks because we attach so much anxiety to it. We make it a passfail test instead of just an enjoyable experience. Women are just people they like videogames and movies and history and all the stuff you like. It's actually fun to talk to them. You just have to introduce yourself to them and enjoy what ever happens. If it ends in a passionate romance than hell yah brother but if not then hey at least you had the excitement of meeting a new person. There is no humiliation if you don…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:23 AM
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If you would like more detail this means finding and joining social groups where you can interact with women who share a mutual interest. Maybe taking a class or joining a club or coed team.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:35 PM
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That was highly sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:18 PM
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Start working on social anxiety by interacting in a low pressure environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:12 PM
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What did I say that was wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:21 PM
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I agree that on this page there is a lot of Taterism but this group attracts largely the same demographic as Tate. Most men don't care about gender dynamics because they are to busy enjoying their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:55 PM
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Your correct that the idea of purely romantic love became more a clear concept during the romantic period which is why it's called the romantic period. But the idea that common people can marry for status came out of the early Victorian era when a the new growing middle class saw them selves as a neuvex gentry and wanted to emulate what they saw the old money doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:47 PM
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We mistakenly think everyone in history was doing what the rich people were doing. The vast majority of people married for survival and for who they liked well enough. Most didn't date for status because most people through out all of history didn't have any status to actually worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:41 PM
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Yes and no. The upper classes absolutely did marry for family status and wealth. But for the vast majority of people they dated out of a combination of convenience and because they actually liked the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:30 PM
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Andrew tate preaches to very very small minority of men who are bitter because they self assigned themselves Incle status.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:28 PM
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I'v seen plenty of women also complain about where are all the good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:23 PM
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Oh I totally agree and same is true for the guys. My belief is that these influencer types are brain rotting many younger people who think what these influencers are doing is what dateing actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:21 PM
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Harsh but needs to be said. The reason you or anyone else can't score dates is because of 3 reasons. 1. Your a giant loser. 2.your standards are so stupid high that nonone can meet them. 3. Girls or guys are scary so you won't talk to them. The good thing is all of these are very fixable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:16 PM
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I would argue this is true for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:54 PM
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I mean you guys do know that dateing is supposed to be fun and romantic and sometimes you enjoy doing right.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:41 PM
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The issue with dateing is that too many men and too many women are dateing for status rather than dateing for fun or companionship. The result is that those who don't want to compete have to weed through all the status daters. People would be much more happy if they were willing to compromise a little bit more to get a good person with a matching personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:37 PM
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People of both genders are disillusioned because so many members of the opposite gender are immature. Those with crap together get ticked off they can't find anyone and those who don't have their crap together get mad they are expected to have actual lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:23 AM
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Women 100% know what they want. Men just don't like answer. Women's want a guy who doesn't look like crap, has an actual career, is a kind person, has some fun interests and hobbies, has humble confidence, and will wash a dish from time to time. What this amounts to is the women want actual adult men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 01:04 AM
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I would like some straight men and some straight women to try and an experiment of dating in the style of the opposite gender for 3 to 6 months. If your a guy your not allowed to ask anyone out on date you can only drop hints. On dateing sights you cant swipe you can only talk to people who have swiped on you. Ect. If your a woman you can only go out with someone if you asked them out and on dateing sites you can only talk to people you swiped on. Basically it would be like a Sadie Hawkins dance…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:42 AM
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I think some where the idea that men shouldn't "whine" mistakenly became that idea that men shouldn't "cry" but men through out history have talked about having strong emotions and crying during intense times.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:54 AM
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Masculinity exists but so does toxic masculinity and so does postitive masculinity. True baseline Masculinity are the psychological traits men have developed to be better hunters and warriors. These are traits like courage, endurance to hardship, low communication team work, and physical skill ect. Toxic masculinity is when people use these differences to promote negative cultural ideals. For example men endure hardship becomes men don't show emotions. Positive masculinity is when people take th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:46 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:43 AM
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This whole Hypergamy vs No Hypergamy is stupid. Yes things like career success, Fitness, good looks, and performance in the bedroom matter to some degree to almost all women. those same traits to some degree also matter to almost all men. It's not shallow to want the most attractive person you can have its basic biology. THAT SAID. Things like confidence, agreeableness, a sense of humor, shared interests, and shared life goals all matter to pretty much all women and all men. If a person claims t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:32 AM
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Arms race of antipathy is a song title for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 09:16 AM
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Just date to have fun. Asking people out should be fun, getting to know them should be fun. Life doesn't have to be nearly as hard as people seem to force it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:51 PM
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My argument is there is someone who will date anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:46 PM
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Would you like help finding your people ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:47 AM
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Have you thought those people just weren't your tribe and didn't get you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:31 AM
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Explain
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:22 AM
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What happened man?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:36 AM
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Seriously go out and talk to people. Make a full out of your self and let people in. Most people are super nice and if the ones you meet aren't you find others. It's okay to have social anxiety it's not okay to let social anxiety ruin your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:18 AM
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Being single is always optional.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:15 AM
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You have 3 kinds of guys where this concerned. "Nice guy" whimps who have no boundaries or standards. They lack self esteem so they view having no standards as giving them a shot of getting at least some attention. Often these guys turn resentful and bitter as they grow unhappy with their relationships. "Jerks" these guys are also insecure but go the opposite way. They have crazy stupid standards and boundaries so that they never have to actually put them selves out their. After all you can't be…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 01:39 AM
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Dating websites unfortunately sell the idea of near infinite potential partners and honestly the scrolling and chatting part of them is fun and can be a little addictive. The way to counteract that is to have a very clear idea of who you are looking for and when you find them you stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:36 PM
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Here is my view that I call yellow pill. The key to a happy life is being the best unique person you can be. Not everyone is going to be a 6 pack gym bro or a multi six figure financial wizard. Maybe your a artist or a teacher or a lawyer. Be the best at that you can be. The steps to happiness are radical self honesty, sharpening your strengths to a razor while softening your weaknesses to a feather, then finding your tribe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:14 AM
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Exactly these guys hunt for some crazy misandrist to say something stupid and then use that to paint all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:36 AM
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But if your not showering or being fake or not having confidence that's not bad advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:44 PM
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Social skills are exactly when they say on the container. They are skills which must be acquired and trained. Being skilled socially is something you learn to be good at just like karate or painting. Are some people more talented than others yes but but almost everyone with moderate effort can pick up the basics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:53 AM
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Honestly OP I'd say 80% of men are perfectly fine from a long term partner point of view. They aren't going to be abusive, or cheat, and can keep a job. Of course all people are going to have their own personal issues that they have to work on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:51 AM
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I most issues with dateing and gender rights would be vastly better if both genders stoped thinking they were psychic about the other gender and just straight up asked what was going on. Empathy is the solution to alot of life's problem. If you want to know why some guys are cheating jerks to there girlfriends ask a man we will tell you. If your wondering why you can't get a date as man ask a woman for honesty advice and she will tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:39 AM
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Most women actually think most men are freaking awesome. The problem is a subset of men who can't talk to women because women are scary and blame that fear on women being mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:21 AM
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Would you like an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:58 AM
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If blue bill is follow the herd and red pill is compete to lead the herd, yellow pill is deciding to be a person and not a buffalo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:44 AM
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It my personal take on the whole pill thing that says the best way to gain success in anything is 1. Radical self honesty 2. Becoming your best individual self. 3. Sharing yourself with others. It's a rejection of the collectivist mindsets of blue or red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:33 AM
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If your struggling with having any luck I can honestly help you. I'm not a very attractive man and don't drive and I've had 0 trouble with getting dates and have a girlfriend now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:28 AM
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It goes beyond the generic and you would be surprised how many dudes flunk the bare minimum?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:14 AM
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If your want to " get laid" you need to do 4 separate things and you must do all of them 1. Be a nice person who cares about others around them. ( unfortunately fake nice works short term but it's yucky) 2. Show you care about your self. This means grooming, doing some light exercise, maybe dressing nice just putting in some effort. 3. Have a job it be in school something that shows your working on your future. 4.Have a actual personality that isn't depressing. It's okay to be stressed or even t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:00 AM
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The good thing is that social skills are a skill that can be learned with practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 11:25 AM
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Best advice isn't just work on your self. The best advice is to live a life you actually enjoy living and then share that with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 10:17 PM
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For example you could decide you really want to be a business owner. Then a key to your long term fulfillment is to be the best business owner you can possibly be. If you want to be a stay at home dad or mom that's cool to but you better become the best stay at home dad or mom you can possibly become. It's not the society is rigged to only benefit the few it's that only a few actually want to step in the ring put in the work and bruises needed to become what they want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:30 PM
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Absolutely Yellow pill is my own philosophy that is about individualism and personal self actualization as the key to success in life and yes in dateing. It rejects the nice guy collectivism of Bluebill or the ultra competitiveness of red pill. The philosophy is that people should just be the best version of what they want to become and by doing so they will find someone who fits their vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 10:24 PM
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Yes I would like to raise children it would be pretty cool to raise a full on person and see them grow up and do things and have their own personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 04:02 AM
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Op tomorrow go get a bed at a hostel. Find some people your own age and go get some food. Strike up a loose friendship with some of the guys and with some of the girls. See what happens if your just nice and social.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 03:54 AM
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Because a lot of guys are shy and mistake their shyness for a lack of female interest. Also alot of guys make awful dateing profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:02 PM
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I don't think you can compare the two at all because they are so very different. Both are very serious though and both groups should listen to each other more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 12:58 AM
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Exactly. If you tell people something about yourself then most people who dont know you are going to believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:38 AM
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Oh thats absolutely true but that has to do with evolutionary biology. If your super unconfident your basically carrying a flag that says there is probably a good reason not to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:33 AM
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I don't think women have as high standards as men believe they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:24 AM
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You would think your unattractive but I'd be wondering why all 1000 failed because that's a very very high failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:20 AM
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I 1000% agree with this. I used my looks as a copeing mechanism for why I could get dates in my late teens and early 20's when honestly I was too afraid to talk to girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:18 AM
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I highly doubt most men have been rejected 1000 times that would require alot getting out there. (Don't trust dateing websites if your eaither gender)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:15 AM
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I disagree is if 80% of women would date a bald guy and 80% would date a guy under 6 foot then a bald guy that's under 6 foot should be at least okay to 64% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:13 AM
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And alot of men don't even try to style there looks which leads them to see themselves as less attractive. If your a dude 1. Take a picture right now. 3 get a collared shirt and slacks. 3. go to an actual barber and say " fix my hair". 4. Take another picture and see what you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 04:03 AM
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Yah if your at the extreme end of weight for your hight and body shape its not going to help you but I don't think most guys are that fat ( correct me if I'm wrong). And even if you are over weight hit the gym for a couple months and your going to be fine not some impossible hurdle.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:59 AM
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Have you looked at research into this it's fascinating?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:53 AM
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I'm not saying you can be confident in literally nothing I'm saying that things outside your control height, body type, losing hair are not disqualifiers from getting dates based on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:52 AM
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Exactly you can look like a Hemsworth but if you don't believe it then your screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 03:49 AM
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What makes a relationship work long term is three things 1. Continuing to have fun with each 2. Always having a long-term goal your working together on. 3. Never stop communicating. Relationships die when they are no longer fun, progressing, or emotionally fulfilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:33 AM
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You have a very dark view of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:37 PM
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What I'm saying is it could be tapping guy on the shoulder or asking a guy their opinion on a peice of clothing. Just some agreed sign that it's now appropriate to talk in a non platonic way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:30 PM
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Im saying she would only drop the handkerchief infront the guy she was interested in talking to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:26 PM
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No because it would an oblivious signal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:20 PM
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If you want to talk to women your attracted to, just talk to them like normal people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:09 PM
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I don't under the weird Incel view where women are somehow both evil monsters but also a women's attention is the only legitimate source of validation. If you hate women then why do you want to date them or even sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:08 PM
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Objectively we do need to bring back a dropping the handkerchief style signal. As a guy speaking honestly with no agenda it's was really hard knowing if someone might interest when I was dateing. Personally I like the shoulder/upper arm tap idea that has kind of caught on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:49 PM
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It's an IQ/EQ problem. Online there are lot of people just not smart enough to understand nuance so they jump to radical interpretations and then get their egos hurt by imaginary POV's.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:40 PM
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I met my amazing girlfriend on Facebook dating and honestly it was a nice experience. I dated three people before her and no problem getting dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 08:22 PM
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Alot of people don't know how to use dating apps. You should use them to find a particular type of person not to just blanket bomb your town with right swipes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 08:19 PM
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It took a lot of scrolling to find my person and I and to go on a couple bad dates but still found her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:33 AM
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Wait you think I'm in the top 20% I am in no way in the top 20% I'm not even in the top 50% for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:31 AM
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This i agree with. Yes there are theoretical 1s but id argue it your actually a 1 then you likely have bigger life concerns than dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:27 AM
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I'm not going to fight that but even if I have supposed beta status there is still tons of dignity in my relationship because we fulfill the needs of the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:24 AM
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I think OP is saying is that you could theoretically always date a 1 in 10. Therefore even incles are incels because they refuse to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:18 AM
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I'm not married yet but we met on a dating website and clicked because we like similar stuff and have similar difficulties in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:16 AM
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Im in a happy relationship which one would I be?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:13 AM
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Are you saying you couldn't get a date with literally anyone like literally anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:12 AM
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Sex and relationships have spots at all levels of the ladder.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:09 AM
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Guys who are actually nice usually dont have to say they are nice or respectful to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:12 AM
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This might sound mean but it's because if a person has reached " true incel status" it's for one of two reasons 1. They actually aren't attempting to date. 2. They are not working on improving them selves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:46 AM
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People should maybe have relationships and sex because companionship and partnership make life easier and because sex and romance is fun. Why does this stuff have to be hard and competitive?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 09:40 PM
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That I can agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 11:12 PM
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Allow we to make my point more exact. Attempting to assign objectives values to members of the opposite gender is why both are miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:31 PM
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Yah I also have a weird way of typing, due to the dyslexia.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:15 PM
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Assigning men and women value is why men and women are so miserable dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:09 PM
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I live in Ohio lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 10:06 PM
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Because even with the risk of rejection it's actually fun to go out their. I'm not attractive and I don't currently have my drivers license and I still got a few dates and and now have an amazing girlfriend. Did I get rejected oh yah but looking back those are funny to me not painful. I even got rejected hardcore by a crazy blind girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 09:59 PM
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? Explain
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:34 PM
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There needs to be a meeting of the minds where men argee more needs to done to teach young men to respect women and to take assault very seriously but at the same time women need to acknowledge most men do take it very seriously and do actually respect women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:20 PM
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I have been there so I don't mean this as harsh as it sounds. Alot of guys are thinking that dateing is rigged or they have "high standards" because they are too afraid to actually try. These guys auto reject themselves because they think it will hurt less then being actually rejected. What they don't understand is the depression from the negative self talk is vastly worse than just getting rejected in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 06:01 PM
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It's not that women have it better than men it's that society has but much higher pressure on dating the it use to so both men and women feel this crippling anxiety towards dating which is the opposite of what you want of your trying to get to know someone. My advice if for everyone to stop taking it so seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 01:26 AM
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Postive masculinity isnt a scam and is extremely important for the male psyche. Men need to feel like men just like women need to feel like women. When that need isn't met men start turning weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:57 AM
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100%
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:39 PM
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What I'm saying is that someone would view being talked to at a book store as cute others would see it as obnoxious even if it's just a hello. Men need to acknowledge women need personal space while women need to accept that men will occasionally accidentally approach them at times that maybe aren't great.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:34 PM
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Oh absolutely it's basically the same as Incel culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:28 PM
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I take the middle road yes anyone with a brain should know that No means No but I also agree that whats socially appropriate when approaching others is often foggy and we should acknowledge that fog.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:22 PM
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Only the most radical feminist ( misandrist) feels that the male gaze is inherently evil. If your straight you obviously want to occasionally catch the other genders attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:18 PM
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Right you have to be someone worth dating but that doesn't mean you have to offer one set thing based on optimal dateing strategy because that won't lead to romantic success eaither.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:24 PM
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You have to have something to offer if you want to date but what you offer is based on your personality and what you personally value in life. I offer my girlfriend a guy who will work hard to provide for my family, is reasonably smart and educated, can cook well and is independent, and has the ability to be empathetic and have adult social skills. I offer that I'm a solid low drama partner that would be awesome to start a family with. My girlfriend appreciates that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:18 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:14 PM
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Yes but those constructs served a evolutionary purpose and thus are hard ingrained into how men percive themselves at their core.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:44 PM
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Yes but in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:41 AM
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From a social evolonary pov it was to raise children.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:17 AM
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Link to a study that nice doesn't lead to attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:12 AM
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Courage is important for both genders but it's socially and psychology more important for men because for much of human history it was the mans job to keep the lions out of the village.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:05 AM
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Im going to give you the point. Red pill and Incel culture should not be used interchangeably as I had done in this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:02 AM
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I'm saying that in the past 60 years women have had to go from being " a women" by society standards to now being a fully formed individual in society. The means a women has to have an opinion on every issue, has to be kicking ass in the work place, has to have tons of hobbies and interests one of which has to be one that is mostly male dominated. All this less that woman falls into the social obscurity their great grandmother. That has certainly ment women have had to grow some extra social ski…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:56 AM
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Did you know that in the 1970's women weren't even expected to have their own fully formed personalities. And when are so flaccid around women because they are taught that their egos can't handle one set back. We view being rejected as this massively painful thing when honestly its just a formative part of a young persons life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:46 AM
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Hottake those things are seen as "fairytales" because our society is too weak to make those systems work. And its to weak in large part because of a lack of positive male role models.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:45 AM
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I kind of disagree where there are good Postive traits in both genders I do think some traits are more important both psychologically and socially to one gender over the other. Courage for men being an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:42 AM
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Your first point is true but my main point stands that if society had more strong men in the public eye that we wouldn't have so many whiney guys out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:39 AM
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That's a misogynist view my man women have had to take on huge social responsibilities since the the 1980's how many women have to contribute the family finances for example. Also the amount of men I have seen who claim to be incles but have never actually asked a women on a date is staggering.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:35 AM
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I think it's important for boys to see men being positive men that's a fundamental need in them growing up psychology healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:31 AM
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Name some please.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:28 AM
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But that's why you need positive male figures to counter act the negative influences.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:25 AM
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Both genders have progressed to be more desirable to the other gender that's basic biology. But I think mens social skills have back slide over the past 15 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:21 AM
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It's not about being a sucker it's about understanding that you have a role to play in the growth of those relationships just as much as the other person. It's saying I'm going to show up and if you also show up then awesome but if not then have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:18 AM
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How so you never have asked your self how would my favorite fictional character handle this situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:15 AM
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Not sure yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:13 AM
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I have tons of positive role models in my life and as a grown man I still look up to spider man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:12 AM
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I agree with your point that it can't be forced but I do think society when they spot one can seek to elevate those men sand say hey guys this is what society wants of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:10 AM
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Can you please name three commonly known ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:08 AM
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100% agree As someone with a girlfriend I feel extremely masculine when she feels good that is what gives me that ego boost. Any guy can score a lucky date but having a women choose you with her emotions and pleasure thats when you feel like a king.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:06 AM
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I would argue fictional characters play a larger role than many realize. But I think we're arguing the the same point which is a lack of access to positive masculinity in the Media consumption of young men who don't have good male role models at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:03 AM
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No hate for single moms at all. And I don't think online dating is the issue women have to have men to date after all. The issue is a subset of men never taught higher level social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 05:00 AM
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My argument is we don't see those types of mind strongly enough in media.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:59 AM
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I agree I shouldn't have lumped redpill directly with Incel culture but I would argue that because so much of redpill now is intermixed with Incel culture most people see them as the same thing and the line between the to are extremely fuzzy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:58 AM
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Postive masculinity in relationships is recognizing that relationships need to fulfill both sides. Its not being "me" centered or Obsessing I've the other person but instead having enough self esteem to focus how they and the the other person can add to each others lives. In dateing it means having something to offer and not getting offended when your not a match with someone. In friendship it means having your friends back when they need you. At work it means showing up for your team.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:55 AM
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That rlis reasonable but I would argue modern red pill has been taken over mostly by incel culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:49 AM
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100% agree masculine is about calm steady confidence. Masculinity Is about having the traits needed to protect the village. Traits like courage, dependability, martial skill, even humility.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:40 AM
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I have a girlfriend now but when I was dating and got rejected I just figured the person wasn't eaither looking for a relationship or I just wasn't their flavor of the month. It's not an attack on your self worth of some one isn't interested in a relationship or isn't interested in a relationship with you for any of a 1000 reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:40 AM
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I think the uptightness a lot of men have about needing to be in a relationship makes them come off as unconfident when Instead men should view dating as a fun activity with the bonus of eventually finding the one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 10:11 PM
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Yah people over complicate the whole dating thing. 1. Women are human beings 2. men are human beings 3. Its not always about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 12:49 AM
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No offense but if you have the view that women as a group suck then your going to have zero luck at dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 09:58 PM
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I'd suggest if your 18 to 23 to have fun learning who you are as a person. Date a couple people, try our a couple jobs, go on a crazy trip. It's unfair for society to force you to pick a life direction with almost no life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 09:34 PM
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Women are just people they aren't psychopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 09:29 PM
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I agree but arguably both are drama if your a really crappy human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:07 PM
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Im my view drama are long term problems or issues the other person bring into your life that requires your attention if your going to be with them. Everyone brings some element of that to a relationship but some bring a lot more off it than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:59 PM
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How to pick a good partner Are they low drama - no one is no drama but don't date people who make your life objectively worse. No criminals, abusers, active hard drug users, serial cheaters ect. Would you be best friends with this person. Do you share a few common interests, do you feel comfortable confiding in them, do you actually take interest in their life. Do you find the person hot. Do you and not society, not your friends, not influencers find them attractive. If you answered yes to all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:57 AM
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Yah the secret is to find someone you like enough to put up with the small amount of inconvenience they are destined to bring. Status dating is the dumbest thing a person can do for their long term mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 05:47 AM
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Dateing apps give you what you put into them. If your dating for sport then you'll get a game but if your dateing for a partner you can find that to but the strategy changes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 01:06 PM
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Personality is the most important thing by far. Sure looks are great and money helps but ant the end of the day a women has to want to spend time around you. That means you need to give your self some self confidence, have hobbies, show that you have empathy, and develop a sense of humor. These traits show that your already a smart, happy, and supportive person which is pretty much attractive to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:44 AM
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I like spending money on my girlfriend but it's because it makes her feel special. The minute I thought I was buying her affection I would stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 08:39 AM
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Exactly if he only wants to date women who don't like money being spent on them then go dutch right from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 08:31 AM
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Yup dude just needs to date kinder women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 08:25 AM
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The red pill sells guys alot of lies that if they are handsome enough, make enough money, and are masculine enough that women will fall into their beds and that will make you truly happy. And yah if your handsome, rich, and act like batman the red pill is right plenty of women will sleep with you but you won't actually be happy. You'll only be happy when you know you have found a person who sees all your imperfections and still wants to wake up next you in the morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 08:20 AM
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