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Oral sex is a one that men and women rule out those that refuse to do it. Men that eat ass is a sexual behavior turn off to me the same way men engaging in sexual relations with other men. Yet again, this has nothing to do with being bi. Being bi is just an attraction to individuals of both sexes. It has nothing to do with your sex life nor is it a personality. Straight people can also "eat ass". What rock you been living under? lol. Dating is by its nature revolve around exclusion. It’s discrim…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:27 AM
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More terrible analogies lmfao. Similarly when obese women try to say it's fatphobic to not find obese women attractive. You can tell if someone is fat. You cannot physically tell if someone is bi. Apples to oranges. You were implying that if you can't physically tell, so it's not a legitimate preference. I compared other preferences which can't be seen physically. Yes, that's exactly what i'm saying. It's like saying you don't want someone who has smaller lungs than yourself, as if you'd know wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 07:10 PM
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I also can't physically tell if someone is a cheater, drug addict, financially irresponsible, abuser, or cunt. Ah, yes, because mere sexual attraction is equivalent to being a degen. On top of that, this is a terrible analogy since you can spot these overtime (someone who cheats will show signs, drug addicts will use drugs, financially irresponsible people will show poor spending habits, etc). How do you spot a bi man? If a woman/man compliments the opposite sex, are they automatically bi? Unles…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:47 PM
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I agree. It's why i like to call alot of women "fake allies". They're all LGBT-friendly until it comes to dating & befriending them lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:38 PM
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My guy her reasoning makes no sense since you can't physically tell the difference between a bi vs straight guy unless the bi guy is overly flamboyant & open, which most bi guys aren't. Anyone could be a bi who claims to be straight and a woman would never know unless they told her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 06:35 PM
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- Emotional: bringing trauma from past relationships/family, general drama, mental illnesses, etc. - Financial: bringing debt and financial obligations like kids. I wouldn't want to deal with anyone with this kind of baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:13 AM
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Both men and women can get friendzoned. And both can friendzone eachother. Either (or both) can also develop feelings overtime. Just because you don't have feelings day one for someone doesn't mean it can't develop overtime.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:09 AM
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This is a dating sub so obviously dating lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 11:14 PM
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You can care about yourself and other people. But it's obvious you're just trolling at this point. Goodluck lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 09:11 PM
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Libertarians believe in voluntary collectivism (NAP), which is exactly what i'm describing. For the third time, individualism and collectivism are not mutually exclusive. Everyone is an individual making their own choices, following their own goals, etc.. Which, once again, can lead to mutual benefit if they align with other people's goals. Unless you're literally a child or live in some oppressive regime, YOU are also a voluntary collectivist too, ironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 09:04 PM
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Once again, they are not mutually exclusive. Your individual goals CAN align with collective goals (Mutual Benefit). For example, let's say you're someone who desires love and respect as an individual. Obviously, this relies on collectivism (from your family, friends, and whatever other people). Thus, you're going to go out of your way to satisfy these people for them to give you the love and respect you desire in return. Individualism is not sociopathy where you're just doing whatever you want …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 08:52 PM
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I dont think past relationships are anyone's business unless there are STDs or kids involved. Imagine if it wasn't just sexual preferences but what race of people you dated lmfao. "Have you dated asian, black, or latino men/women in the past?". Seems pretty odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 08:41 PM
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IDK where you're from or what race you are but black americans (i'm black) are ruthless when it comes to looks. They will roast you if they think you're ugly or short lol. So growing up and seeing people get bullied for being unattractive is what made me well aware of how much looks mattered.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 08:35 PM
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My guess is that it's those "non-binary" or "bigender"/"genderfluid" types who identify as both men/women but only exclusively date women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 08:30 PM
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You can be both an individual focusing on your own desires/goals and care about your close circle of family/friends. They aren't mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 08:26 PM
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You'd think it was common sense for anyone with basic introspection. You aren't giving someone the time of day if you don't initially find them attractive so I assume people are doing the same for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 08:24 PM
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I never said anything about stalking either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 07:21 PM
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They workout for pretty much any man who has options and is either lazy or too introverted to meet people in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:46 PM
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I didn't even have to see your flair to know a woman made this post lol. You guys have so many options both IRL and online that it's incomprehensible to understand how much the average guy struggles nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:44 PM
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"Chasing" women who don't want you will land you a harassment charge. Goodluck lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:51 PM
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My guy even women who are into you wont make the first move lol. The only exception is if they're super outgoing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:46 PM
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Almost as if that's his point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:12 PM
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Agreed. I'm closer to friends than some of my family members lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:11 PM
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I think most social interactions are conditional, whether they're friendships, family, lovers, etc. The only rarely exception are those people who get really attached to people and are loyal because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:09 PM
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It's a double edged sword tbh. These men also risk being accused of harassment since they may not understand boundaries. I think that it'd be better to just approach people platonically and have female friends than to approach women romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 11:49 PM
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I mean, and I know overweight women who have good dating lives and get alot of attention from men. There are clearly alot of guys willing to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 05:59 PM
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Not just weight but improving your looks in general would lead to dating improvements for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 05:54 PM
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I don't think most women are sleeping around though and I don't conflate dating with intimacy. I don't think that if a woman is seeing 4 different guys at once that she's sleeping with all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 02:26 AM
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Maybe it's because I see multiple women myself but I really don't care. I've dealt with the same types of women you're mentioning and unless i'm asking a woman to be my girlfriend or trying to get serious with her, she can date/fuck whomever she wants as long as she's doing it safely lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 02:20 AM
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And? Most people who go on dates are seeing multiple people until they find one to settle in a relationship with. I usually see 2-5 different women at a time also over a period of weeks/months.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 01:26 AM
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Eh, you're talking about two entirely different things than bud. The initial convo was attracting women. You're talking about what you would do with women you're in a relationship with. Unless you use experiences to attract women? If that's the case, you don't need alot of money to do that. And that is also something I agree with (hence, my other comment says to live in places with alot of young people and things to do). But I still believe that this comes AFTER a woman finds you attractive. Oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 07:44 PM
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This concept of only attracting gold diggers. What does a gold digger do? You’re on a date, she’s now your girlfriend and she’s the dreaded gold digger men talk about. What happens now? This assumes alot of things. It assumes men make it past dates, it assumes men make it into relationships, it assumes she's only seeing you while in those relationships. I have alot of female friends and have seen some of them use men they don't find attractive for money. Some will, indeed, have intercourse. Some…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 07:15 PM
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Likewise. We're going to ignore the recent trends on social media shaming men for things out of their control? For example, the "i'm sorry i'm not into short guys" trend on tiktok, which millions of women participated in. Or the recent one of the music audio of women shaming men for their p-size, which is also out of men's control.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 06:55 PM
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Depends on what you mean by "attractive". That's very vague and broad. If we're going by r/truerateme scale, attractive can simply be any woman above average (5.5+), which is the top 30% of women. Which is pretty achievable for average men who put in effort into improving their appearance since most men do not. You don't need to become some model. You just need to become above average (5.5+). But I do agree with you that money does matter. Money, to me, is tool. For example, using money to live …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 06:51 PM
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Sure bud. Or they genuinely believe they're extremely attractive. Everyone can't be above average. That's not how statistics works.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 06:45 PM
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Or.. attractive people are humans too and struggle with the same things other people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 06:20 AM
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Yes, they do. Youtube "Rate yourself 1-10" and you'll notice that women drastically rate themselves much higher than the average man does. Same with their friends. In fact, anytime a woman is with her friends in those types of videos and one of them rates themselves around average, you'll see her other female friends telling her to rate herself higher. For some reason, women find it harsh to be rated as average, eventhough the average person is average lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 05:29 AM
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likewise. Every woman swears they're above average, esp on the internet. I'm not sure why it's so bad to be average. The average person is average.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 05:26 AM
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They are both on the same level. They are both average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 05:24 AM
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Everything matters. Looks, money, personality/attitude, social proof, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 05:21 AM
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It's easier to improve your looks than it is to get a high salary job and accumulate wealth. Especially if you're an average looking guy..
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 05:19 AM
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"facts" yet not a single study linked.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 05:17 AM
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Than maybe link some actual studies to get your point across lmfao. Otherwise, you have no argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 05:16 AM
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I'm just thinking of the insane amount of things I can buy with that money. So many home upgrades and cool stuff to buy and dude wasted it on dates lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:59 PM
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You spent $350k on dating? I can't think of a single date where I spent more than $20 on a woman and the most expensive thing I bought a woman was a $50 necklace lol. I prob spent a total of less than $1k on dating these past 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:56 PM
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Cried? No. Have I rejected female friends who wanted more? Yes. It can be awkward at first when they confess their love but you eventually move on. It's life lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 02:49 AM
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I'm not that big into casual sex but I can't imagine a world without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:49 PM
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No because i'm black and times were terrible for us back then lmfao. Wouldn't want to date anytime before the 80s tbh. I don't think dating nowadays is as bad as people make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 04:57 PM
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I think it depends on the circumstances and how attractive either party is. Like, for me, most of my friends were women growing up. It's only recently I started to have more male friends. So, most of my longest friendships have been with women since I knew them longer than my male friends. Two of my best friends are women that i've known for 8-9 years. I never once tried to make a move on them and i'm at that point where they're like family to me and thought of sleeping with them is just weird l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 06:08 PM
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Went from Blue > MGTOW > Red > Black > Purple. Essentially, everything matters. And, depending on your age, where you live, and the type of women you go for, some things matter more than others. But your looks, personality, goals, ability to create/maintain wealth, mental health, etc all matter if you're looking for a genuine life partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 07:06 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:44 PM
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Disagree. There is a big difference between being broke, living comfortably, and being wealthy. Just because I don't want to date a broke woman doesn't mean she needs to be wealthy lol. I don't want a woman who has a ton of debt and is living paycheck to paycheck. That's what I call "broke". I want someone who is atleast comfortable financially, since this is where I'm at in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:22 PM
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At my age now? No. Back when I was in my late teens - early 20s, sure, since I was broke myself. Also, there is a big difference between being well off, comfortable, and broke. She just has to have very little to no debt and can't be living paycheck to paycheck. As long as she's atleast comfortable, it's fine with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 07:21 PM
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Yep. it's called the "Halo Effect". Crazy how big of a role attraction plays in day to day life lol. It's why I started looksmaxxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 02:45 PM
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lol? You gotta be trolling at this point. What does picking up random hobbies have to do with becoming more physically attractive to people? It's a fact that people treat you better the more attractive you are (The Halo Effect). And these experiences are built over the years to contribute to your confidence. There is no way to magically become a blank slate. You cannot magically erase years of bad experiences with people. Even if you, for example, look at ex-obese people, they give their experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 04:20 AM
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Once again, they go hand and hand. You're denying psychology just to be different lol. If someone is rejected their entire lives by their peers and people (friendship, romance, strangers, etc), there is no confidence to build off of. We're social creatures. We rely on external validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:43 AM
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Exactly... It's insane to me how people will deny common sense just to be different lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:35 AM
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They both go hand and hand. Someone who looks good gets alot of reciprocation and gets treated better. Thus, they carry themselves with more NATURAL confidence. If you don't get treated well based on your appearance, how exactly does someone build up natural confidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:33 AM
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How are we supposed to know? lol. As if we're spying on these random men you guys are going on dates with to know their day to day lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 06:16 PM
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I mean you're literally wrong lmfao. No, the average guy doesn't have many options. It's why there are so many rise in pills/ideologies to help men cope with this fact. So if women are pursing you, you're likely a top-tier guy who are also being pursued by a ton of other women. Aka, not an average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 03:13 AM
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The point is to get in the door lmfao. Most guys aren't even attractive enough to get in so a bio makes zero difference in your dating success.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:01 PM
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False. It's more like the men who women are pursing usually have a ton of options anyway. He's likely going for women he finds more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:55 PM
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If a guy is goodlooking enough to get approached, I guarantee he's not desperate lol. This is assuming the woman is cold approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:53 PM
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Because profiles don't matter for dating apps. It literally is just how good you look and is a number's game for us lol. I've even tested it myself by adding a generic bio vs well thought out one. It made virtually no difference. The only thing that increased my matches/likes was taking better photos and becoming more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 05:46 PM
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You know nothing about me nor my life to come to such a conclusion lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:01 PM
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I've been in those situations too. I once got asked out by a coworker with a boyfriend to go clubbing. She invited her boyfriend but was flirting with me behind his back the entire time. We went on a couple dates after that (alone) despite her being in a relationship. It was a wild experience lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:50 PM
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I agree that there are alot of guys coping. I'm just saying there are also exceptions. You're acting like both cannot exist simultaneously lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:47 PM
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It literally does. You literally said "the only guys who think it's a waste of time are guys who can't". My experiences as an attractive guy who always had women pursing me and who rejected a ton of advances from women debunk this. My situation is rare but it does still happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:25 PM
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I agree with you up until your last paragraph. I'm an attractive guy who always had girls/women showing interest in me (got my first kiss at 8 yos by a girl who had a crush on me, etc). And, yet, I still rejected girls up until around 18 yos (first girlfriend). I was super focused on school and hobbies and thought relationships were a waste of time. And didn't start dating seriously until I was 21 (I never pursued women nor made them a focus of my life before 21). And literally the only reason I…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:16 PM
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Because women are the ultimate decision makers when it comes to childbearing. And, logically, why would someone want to have a kid with someone who doesn't want to be involved in the child's life? It makes zero sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:03 PM
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Depends. There's a difference between being ambitious, complacent, and lazy. There's also a difference between broke, doing ok, and wealthy. Most men don't want lazy, broke women. But we don't mind if a woman is just "doing ok" and complacent about their careers, as long as she has other things going on in her life. I don't care about a woman's career. As long as she's not broke/lazy and I find her attractive, fun to be around, and supportive, she's good enough for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 05:37 PM
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True but alot of women don't use social media (dont post) nor dating apps. So they're only on the market IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 09:10 PM
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Pretty much. Most of us were too young to even remember getting circumcised.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 05:00 PM
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Depends.. late teens - mid 20s, I disagree. It's pretty easy to date in this age range without financial success. After 25-26, women start to care more about your career since they want kids or whatever. But for men who don't want kids and who are still goodlooking enough to attract younger women, there is no incentive to make more money.. A guy who is 27 but looks great can still have success with younger women, even if he's a bum living with his parents working at mcdonalds lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 12:39 AM
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Says who? What if he doesn't want a family? What if he already has success with women despite him not making alot of money?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 12:28 AM
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So we're going to ignore highschoolers and college-aged people? Or does your argument only include post-Tertiary education aged people (23+)?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 12:23 AM
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They both are used to achieve the same goal(s), which is to garner trust through social funnels, in the mate selection process.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 05:48 PM
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Status = trust. Social proof = trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 04:52 PM
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My analogy makes perfect sense. Humans rely on social proof in everything, which is my point. There are studies to back this up and there is a reason "social proof" is respected in the field of psychology. You can use exceptions to the rule as much as you like but exceptions do not make the rule. Women heavily rely on status (social proof) (their inner social circle and other people) to rate the validity of men as a dating partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 04:44 PM
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Almost as if it's an analogy. Reading & comprehension is fundamental lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 04:29 PM
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Status is just trust. That's literally all it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 03:42 PM
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Most people do though. Social proof is real lol. And it's not just in dating but everywhere. We buy products because of trust (social proof). Otherwise, why not buy products that are 10x cheaper from some random chinse brand you never heard of? We vote for politicians because of trust (social proof). Otherwise, why not vote for some random guy you never heard of promising the same thing as any other politician? Same goes for dating. Dating heavily relies on social proof/status/trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 03:37 PM
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Same. It's just more accepted by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:45 PM
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I mean i've literally have seen cases of guys doing the exact same thing and getting treated differently by women based on how attractive they were lol. Most of us have seen or experienced this. The "Halo Effect" exists in psychology for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:43 PM
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Women are the ultimate decision makers for kids though. They can take birth control pills when sexually active or terminate pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 06:32 PM
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Literally nothing he said was blackpilled. You're using terms you don't know the definition of lmfao. Blackpill = looks theory (evopsych) & lookism. This has more so to do with MGTOW, not the blackpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 06:16 PM
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Same lmfao. After college years (around 20-22), all my old friends dropped off the face of the earth. Everyone was always "busy". And making friends is def harder as you age since everyone is too busy with their own lives trying to advance in their careers or start families, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 05:13 AM
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You don't need any study though. Simply befriend women and see the guys they go for or are most attracted to lol. It usually comes down to physical appearance. The only few exceptions were status (social proof) and wealth. Like i've seen some of my female friends accept dates with wealthy men simply because they were wealthy, eventhough they weren't physically attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 07:34 PM
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Your physical appearance gets you in the door. Resources and personality is how you keep someone long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 06:11 PM
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Yep, you're trolling lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:33 PM
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Can't tell if you're trolling at this point lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:48 PM
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Because anyone with a healthy sex drive will seek out people of the opposite sex to satisfy that drive. Even if you're an introvert (like I am), you still want romantic and sexual companionship. So it makes sense why someone would be curious why you're still a virgin after a certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:36 PM
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I mean it's literally an individual thing. Some women care for your reasoning, some women don't. In my experience, alot of women do care about your reasoning. But this is only up until a certain age, like I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:33 PM
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They do though lol. Back when I was a virgin, women used to ask for my reasons all the time. The problem is that alot of guys who are virgins after a certain age aren't there by choice so they usually have alot of awkwardness and personality flaws to accommodate them since they've never been in a relationship to know how to talk to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:49 PM
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I think it would depend on why. Are you a virgin by choice (focusing on school, work, waiting on marriage, etc) or are you one because you're socially inept and have never been in a relationship as a result of it? There is a big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:33 PM
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This is a myth lol. If you've ever had female friends, they're just as visual as us, just less vocal about it in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:29 AM
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single doesn't = sexless. I'm single and still get consistent sex. Also, this doesn't account for being single by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:21 PM
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What else would it be? lmfao. You think they're gonna stalk thousands of people to see their dating and sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:17 PM
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You seem to be projecting. Statistically, the average guy loses his virginity by 18. And most guys have their first relationships by 13-15. And most guys are able to get in a relationship and have sex. To be 20+ and never have had sex or a relationship is much more rare than the internet makes it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 12:10 PM
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You can desire a LTR without wanting marriage my guy. These are not mutually exclusive lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:33 PM
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I've seen and have experienced how being attractive makes things less "creepy". For example, I used to work with a balding guy in his mid 20s who looked 40. The guy would barely talk to people and was mainly only focused on getting his work done. And i've overheard female coworkers calling him weird lmao. Yet there were other guys who were the same way as him (didn't talk much, just worked) and because they were more attractive, nothing bad was said about them. Same thing when it came to approac…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:25 PM
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Depends on the type of relationship: Short Term: Facially attractive, good body, fun to be around, spontaneous, isn't crazy. Long Term: Intelligent, able to make reasonable decisions under pressure, financially literate and doesn't have debt (or very low debt), isn't crazy, and as far as looks go, she doesn't have to be that attractive but I prefer a woman who takes care of herself and works out. I don't really care much about height for short term nor longterm. I'll date a woman whos taller tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:38 PM
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Yes they do lmfao. Have you even watched redpill content? They're always ragging on men about being "socially inept losers who don't/can't talk to women"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 09:32 PM
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Your looks help heavily with first impressions. Your social skills & personality just makes it easier to keep people around.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:26 PM
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Agreed. Alot of primal attraction is illogical for the modern era. But it is what it is lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 09:43 PM
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The only logical response lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:26 PM
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Well, unfortunately for you, women think there is a difference and will judge you based on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:03 PM
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Never said it was an accurate representation. But it does say alot about you as a person. Do you really think there is no difference between a 27 yo guy who works at gamestop vs develops games for a living?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:29 PM
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Disagree. I know a ton of intelligent, talented people who wasted years not doing anything with their lives because they had no ambition. They have the ability to do more, they had the opportunities, yet they've done nothing with their lives. Ambition and drive plays a huge role in success and shows alot about other aspects of a person's life. Things will not magically fall in your lap unless you actually take the steps to do something with your life. On top of that, some people just straight up…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:31 PM
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I personally think most women are still pretty traditional. I think the internet is full of ragebait that just doesn't translate to the real world. I think everything online is over exaggerated. Stuff that is controversial goes viral. But everyone has their own biases. I speak from the perspective of a man who has a ton of female friends and who has been on a ton of dates these past couple years with all types of different women. Even the most politically liberal women I know prefer traditional …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:24 PM
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What hasn't been true? lol. Most regular women I know think like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:18 PM
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Agreed. Especially if you want to raise/start a family, which most people eventually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:13 PM
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I'll never understand this mindset. If you want kids, it makes sense why women want someone who can support their child and who isn't some loser not doing anything with his life lol. And i'm someone who personally doesn't want kids but it makes sense for people who do want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:11 PM
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Not really. I just haven't seen any evidence to suggest this, as someone who has been on dates with a ton of different women with different levels of education. If anything, someone's socioeconomic background is a bigger indicator of compatibility than their educational level.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:45 AM
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Having a degree doesn't = shared values though LOL. You do realize there are different archetypes of people who go to college. This isn't the 1960s where only the wealthy elite go to college.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:26 AM
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Having a degree doesn't = intelligence though. Most college students cheat their way through college. It's prob worse now with the rise of Chatgpt. Personally, as someone who values intelligence in a partner, I care about how well read and analytical someone is than some piece of paper lol. If they can hold high level conversations and are always learning new things, I view that as an high indicator of intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:00 AM
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Your Career shows your: Level of ambition Socioeconomic background Financial stability & disposable income potential
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:54 AM
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I think income and height should also be city-dependent since most people live/date in one city and aren't traveling around the states. Different cities have entirely different demographics, standards of living, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:41 AM
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They usually go hand and hand. "Chads" usually have great social skills because they attract alot of women so they naturally gain alot of charisma and know how to talk to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:29 AM
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You literally answered your own question lol. Either his standards are too high or he's looking in the wrong areas for the wrong types of women. He's also probably overrating his physical attractiveness if he's only attracting "unattractive, out of shape" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 04:27 AM
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IDK about you all but I rem having a high sex drive back when I was a teen 15-18 yos. And so were my classmates, friends, etc. Sex was a common topic back in highschool. No one talked about porn. Boys at my school were talking about which girl they hooked up with and wanted to hook up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 07:52 PM
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I think gen z is "rejecting" them because they're using other platforms but they're still using online funnels to meet people (tiktok, discord, instagram, etc). There is even a "chat" app catered to the younger side of gen Z named "wizz".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 08:01 PM
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What are you currently looking to gain out of relationship and life?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:49 PM
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Most people lower their standards as they age to something more realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 03:42 PM
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pretty much lol. Let's just exclude the experiences of the vast majority of men. I'm an attractive guy who also gets hit on all the time yet I acknowledge that most men do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:17 PM
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It's because you're attractive. Most women don't find most men attractive. Congrats on being in the top 10-30% of men women find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:15 PM
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I'd argue that dating apps are easier than cold approaching at bars/clubs or whatever since atleast you know stuff about the strangers before hand. On top of that, you know who's attracted to you from the getgo. Makes dating pretty easy if you're moderately attractive lol. I'm personally an introvert and hate going to clubs... or places with too many strangers. I prefer dating apps and small get-togethers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:21 AM
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If you're moderately attractive, they're a great way to make friends and date at ease. But for most men, they're a waste of time since you'll rarely get matches. I'm lucky enough to fall in that group of men who gets alot of matches so I use them to make friends and casual dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:17 AM
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In a worse case scenario, we're assuming a person is attacking you vs a bear attacking you. I'm more likely to survive if a person is attacking me. So, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:09 AM
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Non sequitur
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 11:22 PM
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In every scenario I would rather encounter another human being because I would assume that i'm packing heat if i'm out in the woods alone. A man is easier to fend off than any wild animal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 09:00 PM
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Hurling personal insults goes against this sub's rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:17 PM
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Depends on what you mean by "woods", i guess. If you mean National parks/forests, it's still pretty common to encounter people. But if you're somewhere in the middle of nowhere with no town or city for miles than, sure, it's pretty weird lol. Anyways, to me it's just common sense to have self protection. I'm surprised this was never brought up in any of these thought experiments. Even if we assume the worse case scenario, it's easier to defend yourself against one man than any type of wild anima…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:14 PM
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They're technically right since, statistically, you're more likely to be harmed by someone you know (usually a partner) than a stranger. So, yes, women are most likely to be harmed by someone they're attracted to (a partner).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:03 PM
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I can't imagine going through life hating people you never encountered before. Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:01 PM
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I'm curious of how many bluepilled men are now redpilled because of it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 06:00 PM
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neither is the average man. what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:59 PM
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this whole debate is silly but also a bear alone in the woods is just being a bear, but a man alone in the woods raises more questions as to why the man is alone in the woods. He's probably just out enjoying nature, just like I am, but he could be up to something nefarious you've now walked in on and therefore could pose more of a threat than a random man on the street. I'm more afraid of random men deep in the woods than random men out in public. How does this raise questions. Nothing in life i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:52 PM
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Us black people cannot catch a break. What we gotta do with this? lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 05:45 PM
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I used to date older women and learned alot doing it. But the reality is that most women aren't willing to date men younger than themselves. Especially once you reach a 4+ year age difference and the woman wants to start a family. They'd rather be with men their age or men slightly older than themselves/more established.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:05 AM
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You're obsessed with whoever that chick is and are asking how to get a girl like her.. If you have to ask how to pull a certain caliber of women, she's prob out of your league lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:10 PM
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what is bro yappin about? This isn't a pickup sub my man lol. Wrong sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:02 PM
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I dont see the difference between these and american dating.. Most of these are already pretty standard in alot of cities here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 11:54 PM
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Same. Even the manhaters I've met/know still desire relationships lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:11 PM
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I guess it depends on where you live/work because no. I really only see women wear makeup when they go to social events.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 02:18 PM
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Gym wont do anything for your face unless you're lowering bodyfat percentage. Goodluck with that. And i'm someone who doesn't believe in surgery but I understand it's use cases. One size doesn't fit all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 02:04 AM
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Disagree. Like I said, they aren't all the same. Just because you support one cosmetic surgery doesn't mean you support them all. And just because you support a specific type of surgery doesn't mean you support it in all cases. As I said, it depends on your ethnicity and your facial harmony. Not everything is one size fits all, which is what we agree on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 11:29 PM
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I both agree and disagree with you. I just think there are different levels of surgery that all get grouped into together. I don't think they're all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:58 PM
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I don't think women look bad BECAUSE they get surgery. I think the real reason they look bad is because it's done terribly, looks unnatural/uncanny, and throws off their harmony. For example, i'm a black guy so i'm attracted to women with curvy figures, plush lips (prevalent amongst black, latin, and arabian women), and other features that alot of these women try to imitate that other ethnicities seem to naturally have. So, yah, I love things like big lips if they're natural. But women who gener…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:50 PM
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Do you not know how data works? It's literally just data points lol. If you measure 10,000 men and find that the average of them is 5.5 inches, 5.5 is the norm (average) and anything over this is above average. Obviously, it's more complex than this but this is how data works lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:24 PM
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BBLs generally look terrible but I love curvy and fit women lol. SO i agree with everything up until the last sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:21 PM
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Eh, I've def seen hot women IRL who wore little to no makeup lol. Most women don't even wear makeup though. Or, atleast, the ones i've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:15 PM
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Than you don't spend alot of time around women. Most of my friends are women and I see how they treat guys they are extremely attracted to. They do most of the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:28 PM
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It's very unfortunate but it is what it is. This is why you should be self-improving if you're a young man. Especially if you're in those prime years of 21 - 36.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:24 AM
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yeah warm approaching is infinitely better than cold approaching. Esp if you have alot of female friends like I do. It works in my favor lol. Alot of women who're into me will tell my female friends and they tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:08 PM
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They do.. Like I always say to my male friends: if a woman makes it hard for you, she just aint that into you. Women who are into you will put in most of the effort. She'll do the talking on dates, she'll be the ones eager to hangout, she'll be all over you finding any excuse to be around you. The reality is that most guys aren't that interesting nor attractive to most women. Only a tiny percentage of men get this treatment lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:06 PM
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Debatable. Alot of women who are frequently partying well into their 20s and 30s are just looking for short term fun..
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:07 PM
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Depends on your definition. To me, "high value" = highly desired. I do relatively better than an average guy and most of my friends, so I would say i'm highly desired since my dating life reflects this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 05:13 PM
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I don't think these views contradict eachother. For short term relationships (ONS, FWBs, Hookups, etc), attractive men who put themselves out there and men with high sex appeal are the mains ones killing the game. For long term relationships, any average guy who puts in effort can land a girlfriend. And, obviously, there is more than just looks when it comes to long term relationships compared to short term ones so an average guy may have more going for himself in other departments, even if he l…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 03:16 PM
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I just can't comprehend it lol. Like, for example, i'm a black guy and black people are ruthless when it comes to attracting women. You will get roasted for being "ugly & broke with no bitches" so you were pretty much forced to self improve to fit in. Maybe it's a cultural thing as well. I was aware from a young age how being attractive, in shape, wealthy, dressing & smelling well, etc played a huge part in attracting women since if you didnt have any of these, you'd get roasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 11:00 PM
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Most stuff that goes viral on social media is just ragebait trying to get clicks. Unless there's some big movement of women rejecting "broke" men, I don't see any reason to think too much of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:39 PM
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I mean, that emphasizes my point. Why do all that over women who don't want you lol. If anything, this would be motivation for me to improve my life in some way to attract women, not straight up "simp" for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 05:12 PM
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As long as they aren't serious, I think all men should do this. Get some female friends and casual relationships so you can get used to talking to and being around women. It's why i'm currently so comfortable with talking to women. I have alot of female friends and have alot of experience talking to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 06:31 PM
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I dont think anyone is entitled to anything, male or female. You have to put yourself out there, get rejected, and improve yourself after. Most men go through this natural process.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 06:29 PM
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It's also women hyping eachother up just as much. Men are just the ones providing monetary gain to them on top of this. This is why I personally will never understand the mindset of men putting so much effort into women who don't want them or who barely reciprocate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 06:26 PM
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Not really since most legalized prostitution is in "safe spaces" like brothels, where the women are required to get tested (same as the men) and where there is security as well if a customer acts up. And if you're being "underpaid", since it is legalized, you can legally sue your boss VS not being able to sue anyone as a prostitute since you're doing something illegal. I would argue that it's much safer for women for prostitution to be legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 05:30 PM
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Weird how hookup culture is constantly promoted by alot of zoomers and millennials yet they have a problem with prostitution. "Sleep with as many people as you want. Just don't get paid for doing it" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 02:36 PM
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Theoretically, I could see this working. Like if you go from a high inhib, shy guy to a low inhib guy who just doesn't care. You'll approach women more, take more risks that you never took before, etc. You'll have much better dating success as long as you don't obviously become abusive in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 02:28 PM
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I never said they didn't.. Not sure what you're arguing against here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 02:21 PM
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I'm talking about americans since this post was talking about this movement coming to america lol. But yah I know its bad in korea lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 02:19 PM
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I'm not making the argument of whether evolution prepared us for anything or the morality/logic of any of our actions. I'm simply saying that every action we take is based on innate desires that are pre-determined by our brains/biology. Unless you're literally a god that can bend matter at your will, you cannot escape this lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 09:15 PM
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Well yes but logic and morality is also based on our brain and evolution. For example, it could be argued that humans could've evolved to view cheating as immoral. Women, for example, could view cheating as immoral since they're losing a breadwinner if they're found out cheating or the guy is giving resources (that could be used for the family/offpsring) on other women. Men could view cheating as immoral since he'd lose respect from his peers and wife. And social proof plays alot in attraction. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 09:10 PM
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So you're in agreement with me lol. That we are doing things based on the evolution of our brain.. I'm not making the case of whether the actions are immoral, right, wrong, whatever. I'm simply saying that we are slaves to our biology. This is a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 08:20 PM
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I agree with you but the problem with this is that it's too logical for most people. Most people are emotional and want to believe in fairy-tale love instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 08:15 PM
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We are though. Every action we take is based on the evolution of our brain lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 08:10 PM
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Not wanting kids now doesn't = childfree. Most people statistically do have kids. And the problem with those surveys is that they're usually including young people in their late teens - 20s. Most people are having kids later in life so obviously a young 22 yo woman isn't going to say she wants kids at the current stage in her life but may eventually have kids when she's in her late 20s - mid 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 08:01 PM
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Doubt that. Most normal, functioning people still have their needs for romance, sex, and companionship. Especially if you're a young person with a healthy sex drive. This seems to only apply to a small minority of asexual, aromantic, and asocial people who can go years without intimacy without feeling deprived. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if most of these women aren't even following all of the 4 rules (or whatever). I'm sure alot of them are still choosing to have sex but just aren't having…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:43 PM
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Then.. date people with similar world views? lol. Most people want and do have kids. Jesus. I'm a childfree person myself but they're making us look super cringe. If I don't want kids (as a woman) and it's super important to me, I would just date other childfree people. Not sure why people are turning this into some political movement lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:38 PM
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They are still the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:35 PM
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Just another reactionary take that only applies to the extremist minority. Thankfully, most people are sane. Most people don't have drastic relationship nor dating issues as the internet makes it out to be lol. Especially not to the point where they would denounce an entire gender. That just seems odd, whether it's this movement or "MGTOW".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 06:33 PM
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I think if a woman is truly interested in you, she'll be putting in just as much effort, if not more, as you are putting in. You don't have to "chase" her or try to court her (which I've never done). But alot of this heavily relies on sexual attraction. That's been my experience with women willing to spoil me. All of them were just sexually attracted to me from the getgo and put in most of the effort. Not sure what percentage of guys this is though. Could be 5%, 10%, or 20%. But it's def a minor…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 08:51 PM
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The first part may be true (for the most part) but i've had career women WITH kids do the same. But most of them were childless. I personally don't have any of my own though. I also agree that once a woman has kids, the dynamics may change temporarily since a woman may be out of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 08:47 PM
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Not true. Funny how only redpillers say this. From my experiences as an above average looking guy, I never "paid" for anything. In fact, I've had the exact opposite. Women willing to spoil and pay for me because they think i'm some kind of stud (as cringe as it sounds). Especially career women with alot of money. Not every guy is in some provider role.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 03:12 PM
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The same reason women complain about f-boys, situationships, etc. People who are obviously unsatisfied with their sex and dating lives will project their own problems and insecurities onto the world lol. It's the main reason why this sub was even created.. To complain and debate about the state of dating and the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 03:05 PM
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Yah alot of young women do this. I've seen it too many times to count haha. But they're usually talking to 3-10 guys at once and getting different benefits from them (food, sex, entertainment, companionship, attention, etc). I always assume every woman that I go on a date with is talking to atleast 3 other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 09:45 PM
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Except she was. She was entertaining like 20-30 of these guys on a weekly basis. And she knew most of these guys wanted her.. Most guys only want to be "friends" with a woman at a chance to eventually become lovers. Guys aren't just texting women for the sake of it and she knows that lmao. She knew all those guys she added wanted to fuck her, to put it frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 05:03 PM
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Some do, some don't. It's usually my friends who are slim and goodlooking who don't complain since they still have a ton of options anyway from goodlooking guys. But another one of my friends was overweight and always complained about how men didn't want her (mainly, attractive men. She still got approached by average looking guys but always rejected them lol). I think most women like to be courted, whether they're conservative or liberal. But they usually only want attractive guys with stuff go…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 05:00 PM
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Too true. I remember one time seeing a female friend's phone (mind you, she's average looking) and she had dozens of guys added on snapchat over the years. I asked her how did she even get all those guys and she said that most of them were just random guys who approached her lmfao. If only guys knew what they were up against.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 08:01 PM
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This is actually factual. I've had alot of female friends tell me about coworkers they were into but never told those coworkers because they either had girlfriends or wanted the guy to ask them out instead of them asking the guy out lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 07:58 PM
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I think for hookups, average men have bottom-barrel standards and will take any woman who throws themselves at them. But for long term relationships, most men want someone on their level or atleast near it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 07:55 PM
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True. I think the backlash really only applies either to 1.) men that women don't find attractive or 2.) men that women want a relationship with but get "fuckzoned" by.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:45 AM
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Alot of the backlash seems to only be online tbh. Most people do not care IRL. Once you turn off twitter, tiktok, and reddit, you start to realize how crazy alot of people's views are online lol. The same women calling men "f-boys" online for only being into casual sex are the same ones smashing them IRL. It's all fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:06 AM
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This isn't always the dynamic of age gap relationships. I've dated several women 5+ years older than me that treated me as their equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:01 AM
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Most men aren't chasing women THAT much younger than themselves.. It starts getting loony when you see people genuinely pressed over 5-10 year age gaps though. Like a 25 yo guy dating a 19 yo girl.. People will genuinely get mad online and say he's taking advantage of her. But this seems to only be an online phenomenon. Most people do not care IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 04:58 AM
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Oh god don't get me started on the gossiping. i have so many stories. I remember this one time an older lady tried to get with me and everyone started to spread this rumor of her being my "sugarmama" lol. And with the girl I was seeing outside of work, word got around about that too. I overheard people talking about us saying how we were sleeping together (never happened). Man, people are so weird haha. Women love to gossip when you're one of the few men in the entire building.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:29 PM
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Literally my experience lol. Used to work in healthcare, got flirted with alot.. Turned down alot of women out of fear of harassment. But I did casually see one of them outside of work (nothing came of it, we agreed to remain friends). Def happens alot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:53 AM
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True but this assumes the person finds you equally (or more) as attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:51 AM
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Literally all relationships and gender studies (which is what this is btw) is based on soft science. Even within neuroscience & biology (hard science), there are no singular genes or brain activity we can point to to explain nor predict all human behavior.. But the good thing is that we don't have to since we can still observe human behavior and find trends.. Whether something is a hard science or soft science is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is what can be proven with logical analysis…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:44 AM
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The ironic thing is that people engage in so called "pseudoscience" all day everyday (relationships, philosophy, politics, etc). These are all based on this supposed "pseudoscience". You are redpilled, which heavily relies on the "pseudoscience" (soft science).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:20 PM
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Irrelevant comment with no correlation to the original conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:01 PM
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Yet you don't have a single argument against it.. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:00 PM
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It’s amusing that he would tout his degree when he has said multiple times that universities are NPC factories. This doesn't mean that every degree or person with a degree is useless or unable to think critically for themselves. ​ ​ The branch of psychology he fixates on is not widely accepted within the academic community, mostly because it’s a bunch of stuff guys came up with on ludicrous amounts of LSD. (Transpersonal Psychology). As explained to another commenter, all soft sciences are heavi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:25 AM
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> on a debate sub > doesn't want to debate
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:32 PM
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Yet you cannot name anything that is supposedly "unfounded, exaggerated, or false" lmfao. If it's as simple as having a "social life", this should be a walk in the park for you to debunk. Yet you still haven't provided any rebuttal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:21 PM
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\Yawn**.. So... no rebuttal. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:14 PM
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Once again, insults.. No rebuttals. You aren't making a good case for yourself if you're trying to convince people otherwise lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:08 PM
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All soft sciences are heavily criticized by hard sciences and heavily criticize each other. It doesn't mean anything.. And as they go over in this debate, there are alot of studies and data that actually makes evopsych more reliable than other types of soft sciences. But, once again, you have no real rebuttals other than "incel". You have no studies to debunk anything he's saying. Nothing but insults lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:04 PM
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Yet you cannot debunk anything he said other than throwing around the "incel" word lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 10:00 PM
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Probably because he has a degree in developmental psychology, has extensively studied evolutionary psychology, and uses his knowledge to dumb down concepts in ways regular people understand. Do you have any real rebuttals other than "name bad"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:58 PM
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Says the one who automatically shuts down someone because they fall under another ideology you don't support lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:56 PM
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I mean he literally has a degree in developmental psychology & has studied evopsych so i'm pretty sure he knows his stuff lol. But I love how people automatically dismiss something without any real rebuttal other than throwing around the "incel" word.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:55 PM
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Same here. If she has other guys in the picture or she talks about past relationships, it's an instant turn off and I cut them off lol. Literally had this happen one time where a woman talked about an FWB she was sleeping with while we were hanging out yet she wanted "something serious" with me lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 05:23 PM
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surprised no other commenter said this lmfao. Like there isn't a million videos on pickmes all over tiktok/yt.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 09:50 PM
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It's not just a male thing. Pretty sure most people subconsciously look for people who resemble their exes, esp if they had good experiences with those exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:57 PM
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Nope. You just need to constantly be meeting people. You don't even have to be friends with alot of people. I'm an introvert yet i'm constantly meeting new people but I have only a few handful of people I call my friends lol. Introverted doesn't = shy nor asocial.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:24 AM
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Looksmaxxing (hitting the gym, dieting, skincare, haircare, fashion, surgery if you want to and can afford it, etc), expanding your social circle, getting your money up. Literally cannot go wrong if you do all these.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:21 AM
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I've dated women who have different political views than me with no issues. As long as they aren't activists going out to protest every week about something they're passionate about, I dont think it really matters. I think most people are moderate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 05:56 PM
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I agree there are alot of weirdos but I think this is because alot of guys dont have aot of opportunities to gain meaningful social skills and emotional IQ to begin with.. And it's 10x worse now since everyone and everything is online and people aren't meeting other people IRL as much anymore. So many people are wasting their prime years spending hours a day online than interacting with people IRL now. It's no wonder why there's alot of awkward, socially inept guys now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:02 PM
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Both matter. For example, if you're 32 yos but look 22, you will be more valued than another 32 who looks their age or even a 22 yo who looks much older than their age. But obviously in most cases most people do look around their age. And when someone finds out your real age, there may be a switch in their brain that turns them off, even if you do look young, esp if someone wants to start a family. Like if a 25 yo guy finds out a 32 yo woman isn't actually 22, he may be turned off for longterm d…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:45 PM
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My point is explained in my comment. Reread it slowly if you have to. It's not rocket science lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:41 PM
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Funny enough, the "friend zone" didn't last long. I told her I didn't want to be friends since I was only romantically interested in her and she tried to beg me back. I think all guys should do the same. No point of being friends with a woman you're romantically interested in. I think she was def the type to keep me around as an option. I think alot of people do nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:37 PM
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Not entirely true. There are some things that are pretty universally attractive across most cultures. For example, youth and health indicators.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 04:18 AM
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This isn't even a redpill stance lol. It's a evopysch stance of something called "social proof".. although redpillers do seem to be the main ones pushing it though. I think most normal people agree that social proof matters when it comes to attraction, even if we aren't conscious of it. For example, if you saw someone at a party all alone not talking to anyone and sitting in a corner, you may perceive them entirely different than if they were actively engaging in a crowd with other people and pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 04:16 AM
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Yep this is why dating is just a numbers game for men lol. Just gotta shoot your shot and whatever happens, happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 04:10 AM
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You clearly haven't been on alot of dates. As someone who has gone on dozens with alot of different women, different women take things differently. You could ask the same question or say the same thing to 100 different women and they will all take it differently. Alot of women have trauma or emotional baggage from past relationships that they take to new ones.. Or they grew up in entirely different households in entirely different family/economic circumstances so their response will be entirely …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:19 PM
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I've def dealt with alot of wishy washy women sending mixed signals too. Like I had this one woman who was always down to hang out 1 on 1, got touchy with me, called me cute on several occasions, called certain things I did "cute", and even compared me to one of her ex-lovers (told me that I was better than him in every way) .. then got friendzoned lol. So even these aren't always a guarantee.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:08 PM
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Eh I dont agree with this. But this is purely anecdotal. Speaking from personal experience, I def am attracted to different types of women who are nothing alike lol. Esp when it comes to short term vs long term relationships. I have several different types i'm attracted to. I would assume it's the same for alot of other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:52 PM
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When I think of "predator", I was thinking of either someone who is persistent or a narcissistic, self-centered person trying to use someone. Since this is usually the way women describe predatory behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 09:00 PM
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Serial killers are rare. We're talking about the average "manipulator" here lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:59 PM
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lol monitoring your calorie deficit is pretty easy. Even if you don't work out, you could still be "above average" simply by not overeating, esp if you're a woman. Really not hard to do.. ​ EDIT: This user has, for some odd reason, blocked me so I cannot reply to their last post.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:56 PM
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I'm aware. I'm talking about when you first meet/approach someone too.. Men who approach maybe 20+ women in a week, get a ton of numbers or social media @, and use "text game" to keep them around until he wants something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:52 PM
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I mean they literally can and do lmao. It's why alot of these men are f-boys and womanizers with an array of women. Like I said, they are low inhib and don't care. And it's even easier nowadays "thanks" to technology. You don't even have to see people face to face anymore to keep them around or attached to you. A guy can literally talk to a dozen different women at a time with just a few texts a day and tell them whatever he wants them to hear to keep them around... esp if the manipulator is goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:53 PM
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Common sense should say that OP was talking about the general rule. Seems you're just arguing just to argue lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:44 PM
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Could say the same about weight for women. Expecting fit men when the average adult woman (and man) is statically overweight. And as a fit man myself who only dates other fit women, I see this entitlement all the time lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:17 PM
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The exception doesn't make the rule. By your own logic, nothing can be concluded since there is always some rare exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:14 PM
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False. Predators are low inhib and just don't care. You're making it seem like they're conscious and analytical about it. They aren't approaching specific women that they think they can manipulate (which would be impossible to know since these women are strangers). The reality is that they're approaching more women because they dont care about social cues and don't care what anyone thinks about them. And the women who choose to stick around are the "easy" prey.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:11 PM
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Yes. Yes they do lol. Esp if you're a young adult (late teens - mid 20s) where most people aren't making much money and barely have careers (if any at that point).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:31 PM
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Technically, living paycheck to paycheck does make you broke since this is the very definition of being broke ("having completely run out of money") lol. Although, not everyone who works a 9-5 lives paycheck to paycheck nor do they obviously earn the same amount of money. I think when people think of "9-5", they think of some minimum wage, dead-end job where there is no room for growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:19 PM
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That's them. I dont think that lol. I believe in the "dual mating strategy" hypothesis. Basically women & men having two mating strategies for short term & long term dating. I think women are more likely to give it up easier to more attractive, "high value" men when they're young but are more likely to settle down for long term relationships as they age. This is when it gets easier to secure a long term partner for average looking, lower value men.. This obviously doesn't exclude the fact that a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 02:16 AM
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not sure what having kids has to do with your sex & dating life.. Entirely different issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 11:46 PM
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LMFAO. This is both funny and sad how true it is. They would prob make up an entire plot line about how evil he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 02:31 PM
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Anyone with basic reading and comprehension skills can go to that sub and see how openly misandrist it is. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Like I said, gaslighting me will not change this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 02:29 PM
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No, no i'm not. Im showing you how flawed your argument is and you don't like it lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 02:27 PM
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gaslighting me will not change that sub's misandry lol. Any racist can make the same argument. "How am I racist? Yeah, I talk trash on another race all day. But they're just my experiences!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:28 PM
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Than why not just keep it separate to begin with lol. Personally, I would never get into a long term relationship with someone I felt like I had to prepare to go to war with if something went wrong. I would assume the person is mature enough to have basic communication skills if things did go sour. But maybe that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:20 PM
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I never see racism so it doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:08 PM
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"Weird. I'm a white guy who lives in a predominantly white area and never experienced racism.. So it never happens"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:07 PM
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The fact that the most popular female subreddit is misandrist says alot lol. Men literally live rent free.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 01:04 PM
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No there isn't. Not everyone cares about relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 09:23 PM
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Or the fact that not everyone is chasing relationships lol. Like me, for example, I didn't start caring to date until my early 20s. I got a ton of offers and got asked out alot before that but didn't start caring until a couple years ago. To me, dating before my early 20s was just a hobby and an time-consuming one seeing all my friends invest hours and money into their relationships. I felt that time and money could be better suited for other hobbies that I actually enjoyed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 09:22 PM
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Yet the women I know who want this have college degrees and careers.. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:23 PM
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This assumes that everyone's goal is money or to be at a high position in a career. Alot of people only work for stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:22 PM
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Yet again, false. This assumes that there are no women who want this lifestyle. Like I said, I literally know women with careers and college degrees who want this lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:21 PM
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My experiences are different. 2 of the women I know come from traditional families. One is an arabian christian who prefers traditional gender roles. Another is secular but still came from a traditional family. Neither of them were partygirls. Both are pretty introverted. Both actually have college degrees and come from middle class families. ​ I also disagree. You're saying it as if this would be a random woman you're taking care of. This would be the mother of your child. You'd be investing in…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:17 PM
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Than you'd be surprised to know that there are alot of women who want this lifestyle too. Personally, I don't want it but I've met alot of women who, to my surprise, also want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:03 PM
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It's even more insane how there are lookism trends always blowing up on tiktok/instagram getting billions of views yet people will still gaslight you on the importance of looks in dating lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:30 AM
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You are correct but the brutal reality is that most men will never get choosing signals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:26 AM
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I dont blame men. I'm a guy with alot of female friends and have seen how brutal they are with men they find unattractive. I think if you don't meet a minimal level of conventional attractiveness, you will struggle and shouldn't risk approaching women. It's not worth risking being seen as a creep lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:24 AM
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Damned if you do. Damned if you don't lol. And it's even worse since most guys get absolutely nothing on dating apps. Approach IRL = risk being seen as a harassing creep. Approach online = you compete with hundreds of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:20 AM
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I honestly dont care for this convo anymore. Like I said, you do you. Your perspective doesn't apply to my dating life nor match my experiences lol. I personally don't struggle the same way you do so I cannot relate to your experiences. There really is no point in arguing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 05:25 PM
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Depending on how "young", I can argue that love is naive when you're "young" since most people are still in that discovery phase and dont even know themselves fully yet. Everyone is just experimenting. It's why so many friendships fall apart after highschool or college. And it's why most relationships don't last. The older you get, the more experienced you are and realistic you are about your standards and attracting a viable partner. This fairytale love stuff is a myth and never existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 04:32 PM
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Stating the realities of things is not self pity. Giving guys advice to put all their eggs into looks maxing with the false hope that it will greatly improve their dating options is bad. I never said this. You're putting words in my mouth. The original topic of this entire thread is about dead bedrooms, which is heavily reliant on sex appeal. Sex appeal is based on physical traits/looks. So why would I talk about other things that aren't about looks? Common sense. It seems you went into a random…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 04:27 PM
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I typed out a long response addressing each point but my browser crashed.. I honestly don't even feel like typing it all over again. So i'm just gonna say this: if you want to wallow in self pity, have fun. But the guys who actually go out there to self improve will get far in life. I'm proof of this. I'm currently looksmaxxing and have been looksmaxxing for several years now. My options have increased in both quality and quantity. Take it or leave it. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 05:20 AM
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I like that guy. He's one of the few redpillers I can actually stand to watch lol. Speaks nothing but facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 04:12 AM
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The same could be said for women. Most women aren't that attractive lol. The average male and female are both overweight/obese. Obviously, you can't change your facial features (unless you get surgery) but you can atleast lower your body fat, do skin/hair care, eat healthy, etc. These will all contribute to you being the best you can be genetically/physically and aging well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 04:07 AM
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Make sure sex appeal and attractiveness is established before you settle down with someone. Alot of people will literally just settle with whatever they can get and there isn't alot of sex appeal there to keep their partner interested in the first place. Working out & taking care of your body/health helps alot. You should expect the same from your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:28 PM
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This is 100% facts and should be top comment. I've had girls that I initially had longterm interest in show some of these signs and I immediately lose interest in put them in the "short term fun only" category lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:23 PM
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not everyone's goal is marriage though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:20 PM
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Obviously. Everyone does this.. lol. But it's not just based on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:17 PM
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sorry brother. It was just an implication.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:51 AM
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I barely even trust financial companies keeping my private information safe. I wouldn't trust the cybersecurity of some dating app. I'd encourage everyone to look up how many cybersecurity attacks occur every single day (over 2 thousand). You can understand my fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:03 PM
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I wouldn't trust some private dating app to not sell my private information to other private companies. This just screams "no". if you're that paranoid about online dating that you support this, literally don't date online. And this isn't any more safe than real life either. Someone can also lie to you about themselves in real life too or they can also provide false information using fake ids so how is this any safer lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:01 PM
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Completely disagree. They just don't want to settle for some "average" guy, aka someone on their level lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 07:04 PM
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I used to quote this analogy but it's terrible because it assumes the fish (women) don't want to be caught and that the fishermen (men) have superior knowledge that the fish don't. For example, if you're a guy who is born extremely attractive, you never had to work or do much to attract women.. So you never went through that process of rejection and self improvement to become more attractive to women. So what advice could a guy like that give an average looking guy on attracting women other than…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:24 AM
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It's because alot of women love to virtue signal in real life. But I've noticed that women are much more brutal around their own friends + social media when it comes to looks. For example, i've seen women appearing to lead men on but being their back, call those same men creepy and ugly. I've seen this numerous times lol. Obviously, you shouldn't straight up call someone unattractive but you should make it firm that you're not into someone. This is what i do as a guy and what most other guys do.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:15 AM
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Yet again, how would you know the intent someone buys a doll for? And, yet again, how is this different than video games/movies? By your own logic, people who play alot of violent video games or watch alot of violent movies could also be risk factors who're using these as coping mechanisms. But, yet again, you wouldn't know unless someone goes out and actually harms people OR say they're going to. Like i said, it's arbitrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:08 AM
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and you would know this because? lol. But this whole argument is like the whole video game or movies are bad argument. It's like saying people who play violent video games or watch violent movies are risk factors themselves. It's arbitrary. Unless someone is going around actually harming people or saying they will harm someone, you can't do anything and will not know anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:49 PM
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Agreed. I don't even care about anyone's relationship IRL, let alone some random person's sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:47 PM
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and? still doesn't change the fact that people aren't having kids because of costs lmfao. Otherwise, poor people would be having the least kids.. And most people aren't planning their kids unless they come from well off families to begin with (so they do it for tax reasons). Half of pregnancies are unexpected.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 12:53 AM
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exactly lol. Poor people have the most kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 07:02 PM
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eh, no. I'd argue it's the opposite. Prosperous times = more time for leisure + more money for yourself. Most people I know in their 20s don't want kids anytime soon because they are pretty hedonistic and would rather have fun/peace. I don't think i've heard a single person say they didn't want kids because they couldn't afford it lmfao. Esp if you're someone getting into your first "real" job after school making good money after making minimum wage your entire life. Why would you want to immedi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:11 AM
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It's weird how we both agree but we grew up differently lmao. But, yah, spending enough time around people of all ages (Im 25 now with friends ranging from 20s - 50s) made me realize that no one really matures that much. We're all the same people we were as teens. Alot of people confuse wisdom & knowledge with maturity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 05:16 PM
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It could be us maturing too soon. For example, I started working at a young age. My parents instilled in us early on that we had to work for what we want so I worked for most of my money growing up. I also always had older friends (as well as friends my own age) so I could always have more intellectual convos to stimulate my brain and curiosity. So I really cannot understand this mindset of 18+ yos being viewed as children. I did not feel like a child at 18. And, like you, I feel like i'm that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 04:52 PM
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I also feel like I'm literally the same person at 25 as I was at 18-19. I didn't magically become more mature because my "brain is fully developed". I still have the same amount of self awareness, introspection, etc. Feel like the only people who make the "brain not being fully developed" argument are people who always made bad life decisions and who never went through hardships as kids/teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 04:35 PM
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not sure why everyone always associates home ownership with adulthood lmao. This is def a strictly american/western experience since in most cultures around the world people live with their parents until marriage or well into adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 04:28 PM
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Oh god I made a reddit post on this a couple months ago haha so I feel this so much. I hate how infantilized people are nowadays, esp women. People not learning nor knowing how to do basic adult things (controlling your emotions, cooking, cleaning, communication, etc) and then blaming it on their age. Also, society acting like a 20 yo is kid as if they can't make decisions for themselves. It's even funnier when alot of people think that they should be able to drink, drive, own firearms, go to wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 04:24 PM
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America. Pretty much any big city here. I've lived in several different cities and it's the same everywhere I've lived lol. Most women I've met are always on tiktok, instagram, snapchat, etc. Always checking posts or posting about their mundane lives doing the same things over and over again as if they're special. And I dont give a shet about statistics. I'm going based on personal life experiences. This isn't a formal debate my man. This is a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 06:16 AM
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It's rare to find a woman who isn't obsessed with social media though so most women have an incentive to want to grow their following lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:55 AM
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Depends on how young she is and what you mean by "better". Sure, older people are a better judge of character since they're more objective and have "been there done that" but there is more to a relationship than someone's external character. Someone presenting themselves as a saint doesn't = compatibility. This also assumes that the woman is a saint herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:52 AM
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she said she was a 3.5 - 4/10, which is slightly below average (if average is a 5). It's really not that crazy low. I'm someone who's heavily into facial aesthetics (check my reddit history lol) and I personally would rate her around a 4/10. Not ugly but slightly below average. Like I said, attraction is based on health and youth indicators. For example, clear-smooth skin = youth (because it shows you have high collagen & elastin). It's why women wear makeup to imitate clear-smooth, youthful ski…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 03:38 AM
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Attraction is based on health and youth indicators so they're pretty objective. I think it's best to have a realistic perspective of where you stand in terms of appearance. Better than being delusional thinking you're a 10/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 03:30 AM
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They aren't wrong. I've seen even average looking women get put on pedestals. Can imagine how easy it is for an attractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 03:21 AM
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showermaxxing lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 03:11 AM
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My logic makes perfect sense. You're just intellectually dishonest. You gave a definition. I used it to come to a logical conclusion. By your own definition of hedonism you gave, i'm correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:48 PM
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When it comes to conception, yes, yes it does. The purpose of sex serves a function. That function is to produce a child. So having sex outside of conception because you enjoy it makes you a hedonist since you're putting PLEASURE before FUNCTIONALITY. By the very definition you gave, this is literally hedonism, lol! The problem is that people think hedonism is inherently bad, which i'm not claiming.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:31 PM
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Literally everyone who enjoys sex can be seen as a hedonist since they're having sex outside of conception. Unless the only time you're having sex is to conceive a child, you're also a hedonist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:13 PM
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This includes online dating as well; my average looking male friends almost strictly date online. Hookups aside, if you have genuine issues finding dates, it's either not your looks or you're actually unattractive, not average. This is statistically false. Too many men to women on dating apps so even from the getgo, dating apps are skewed to only "high value" (attractive, tall, fit, social, wealthy) men being the most desired. This isn't to say average men get no matches but they get very little…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 08:08 PM
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Obviously, there has to be baseline attraction established (meeting a woman's minimum looks threshold). Simply talking to someone wont get you anywhere lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:12 PM
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Than that says more about your ability to choose partners than these men themselves. I don't understand all this relationship drama people have. Most people I've been with have been pretty chill yet, for some reason, there's a section of people who always seem to have relationship issues.. hmmm.. I literally had a friend like this who always has relationship issues yet swears she wasn't the problem LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 05:08 PM
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There's a big difference between being individualistic and selfish. They are not interchangeable. Plus, everyone is selfish to some extent. No one will engage in anything if they get nothing out of it. The perception of collectivism being inherently "selfless" is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:13 PM
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Lemme guess, you had a bad experience with a man who coincidentally was raised by a single mom and now stereotype all men raised by single moms, lol. Seems this is common nowadays. Have one bad experience = everyone with those characteristics are now bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 05:10 PM
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I'm speaking from a 'EvoPysch' perspective btw. I'm not redpilled. Although, I do agree with some of the stuff they say but not entirely. SO pretty much using redpill talking points that I didn't say isn't relevant to the current convo.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 02:26 AM
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Your point? Statistical outliers don't mean anything lol. The fact is that most women want dominant, masculine men who are high in status (social proof) and are go-getters (potentially or currently able to obtain resources). This obviously isn't black and white since most men aren't peak men but this is generally what women have evolved to be attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 01:00 AM
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The same reason women are obsessed with a guy's height, their job title, "how they make them feel", who they hang around, their level of attractiveness, etc. Evolution.. Men are evolved to be attracted to feminine, young women who are more likely to succeed in bearing and raising healthy children. Women are evolved to be attracted masculine go-getters who are more likely to succeed in obtaining resources and protecting their family. Humans are still inherently primitive, no matter how much we tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 12:46 AM
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It's because most "single" women aren't 100% "single". They're still getting their needs satisfied. For example, in a relationship, you're getting sex, intimacy, attention, etc. Well, "single" women dont need to be in a relationship to get any of this. But most men have to be in one to get these benefits. An average woman can download a dating app and get sex the same day, multiple times a day from men she finds attractive. Women also notoriously get attention on a daily basis from alot of men. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 06:36 PM
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Pretty sure most people want Gender roles but just aren't conservative extremists.. Only on the internet is it controversial lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 11:15 PM
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Once again, as long as you aren't a radical or activist trying to shove your ideologies down people's throat, it's like anything else. I've dated and have friends who have completely different political beliefs than me.. Not sure why people think you can't have other things in common lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:57 AM
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lol pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:30 PM
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social media is more to blame than dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:27 PM
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It's not just men but women themselves literally complaining about how they cant find good men or how they hate "fuckboys" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:25 PM
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using extremists to prove a point about the generation population will always be bad faith ..
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:23 PM
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Like I told another commenter, this isn't a lone experiment. I can link you literally dozens of experiments just like this of handsome guys with questionable morals still being able to get matches and secure dates. Cope all you want but the reality is that we live in a society where attractive people are worshipped. This is a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 05:10 PM
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Except they did. This experiment also isn't a lone one. There are dozens of experiments just like this over the years of extremely attractive guys with questionable morals still being able to match with girls and secure dates simply because they're attractive. If you want, I can show you alot of other ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 05:05 PM
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My skincare routine ties directly into my diet: Anti-aging (Vitamin A, B, & C), high protein when bulking, and keto with intermittent fasting when cutting to get a low BF (around 11-12%). ​ My skincare is pretty elaborate though. It consists of: Everyday: Vitamin C serum 15-20%, Hyaluronic acid serum 1-2%, Salicylic acid, Sun screen, moisturizer. 2 Times a week: retinol (vitamin A) with ceramide/niacinamide creme, Glycolic Acid. 5 times a week: collagen creme (on days I dont take retinol). 3 tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 03:49 PM
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bro, most women on dating apps under 27 are liberals.. Let's be real here. And I say this as a moderate conservative guy who actually attracts liberal women. Most women don't care if they find you attractive. And I honestly don't care either if the woman is attractive.. As long as the woman isn't some radical or activist, IDC.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:00 AM
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yah it's brutal lol. These experiments are exactly why I looksmax myself. Literally my entire dating success improved in correlation to me becoming more attractive as a guy (working out, skincare, haircare, etc). It's the number one thing you can do to improve your odds as a guy!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 07:57 AM
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And? This one didn't.. You can clearly see the women pointing out the bio and pics.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:12 AM
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Nope. I think that looks can override alot of so called redflags. Literally google the "Nazi chad tinder experiment". So called liberal women who hate republicans are willing to date & hookup with someone who's a literal nazi (10x worse than a republican) just because he's extremely attractive lmao. This is why I'll always believe looks are the majority of relationships. People will overlook alot of things if they find someone extremely attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:36 PM
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I've always said that the red pill & mgtow went to dogpile when incels took over. I discovered the redpill & mgtow as a teen back in like 2012 and it was pretty straightforward and small. Back then it was about self improvement and the redpillers back then were actually trying to give men advice to improve their odds with women or avoid wasting time with women who don't want you. Ever since the incels took over in like 2015-2017, it pretty much went to dogpile. Alt-right propaganda, womenhating,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:24 PM
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If you're a loner attractive guy on dating apps, no. If you're an average guy who doesn't go outside and are expecting relationships to fall into your lap, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 07:44 PM
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exactly lmao. Expectations doesn't = reality. Men have no choice but to settle for less and date well below their SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 07:30 PM
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Me, personally, I don't struggle. My dating life is pretty good. But for an average guy, voicing preferences doesn't = having high standards. Dating apps and social media prove this that men will take literally anything they can get. Search up the "Pig Woman Tinder experiment" or "Old Lady tinder experiment". You'll see young guys in their 20s going for bottom of the barrel women at a chance of getting laid or into relationships. It's sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 07:29 PM
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This. Beggars cannot be choosers lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 11:43 PM
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Can't tell if you're just mentally challenged or being intellectually dishonest at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 03:13 AM
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This is true. You can realistically go months without leaving the home if you wanted to since there is really no need to. Everything is online (food, entertainment, sex, services, etc) and can be ordered directly to your home. It's insane lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 01:46 AM
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Something tells me that if a woman posted this, the replies wouldn't be as hateful. Here is a guy looking for help and this is the response he gets lmao. But women are so loving, caring, and sympathetic!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 05:28 PM
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> "Men will sleep with literally anything" - Women Also women, "Men have such high, unrealistic beauty standards and if you're not a curvy supermodel, goodluck". ​ I literally know so many mid, average looking women who get hit on daily by men. Just lol at this notion that basic women don't get anything. Just looking at an average woman's snapchat, instagram, and Tinder says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 05:25 PM
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In the US, no you cannot. Prostitution is illegal in every state except Nevada. And, once again, even if it was legal, affordability will always hold most guys back. Brothels aren't cheap. I just googled it and you're looking at a minimum charge of $250-500/hr at most places LMAO. Just lol if you think some incel working some minimum wage job can afford this. Mind you, most incels are young guys prob still in school or just starting their careers making scraps (and in debt).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 05:15 PM
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In terms of resource gathering and protection from an evolutionary psychology perspective, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 06:10 PM
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I think OP would be better if he said "men are horny for most women" and "women are horny for a small percentage of men". I think most men find most women attractive enough to sleep with, but most women find less than 20% of men attractive enough to sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 05:27 PM
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Logically, I would assume it's because men have an innate desire to find suitable MOTHERS. If a woman is dark triad, she would be unable to raise our children correctly.. So we innately look for women that are soft, caring, and feminine. What would a woman being dark triad do for us or our offsprings?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 05:23 PM
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A millionaire in NYC isn't the same as a millionaire in Indiana. Wealth doesn't mean anything if you don't compare it to cost of living. NYC is insanely expensive. Meanwhile some other place like in the midwest or the south, a millionaire dollars (assuming the networth is liquid) could go extremely far. Also, I don't think money is the sole indicator of your success with dating. I think looks, social circle, and status play a much larger role.. atleast, with zoomers. Not sure how it is with olde…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 05:21 PM
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no. not really. By your logic, anyone could kill anyone or do anything they wanted, regardless of laws or morality. I'm talking legally and realistically. It's not realistic nor legal for an average man to consistently pay for sex. Imagine comparing prostitution to dating apps. Delusional lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 05:16 PM
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Some women will but meh. I dont post on social media and still get women lol. Last time I posted was like 3 years ago. I dont think most women care as long as you have friends IRL. If you're a complete loner without social media AND are socially inept, you'll be seen as creepy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:58 PM
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> assuming every man can afford to buy SAFE sex (free from STDs, crime, etc). > assuming it's also legal, which it isn't in most places. So, no, not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:54 PM
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Depends on how old. I personally know a ton of women who were dating older guys while in their late teens - early 20s. But if you're talking huge age gaps, like a 19 yo dating a 50 yo.. Than yah those are obviously rare lol. But a early 20s dating a late 20s - 30 something yo isn't that uncommon. Literally used to work with a 22 yo girl who only dated older men. She told me her first boyfriend was like 27 when she was 18, she had a crush on a guy in his 30s, had another ex who was in his 30s, et…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:05 PM
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Femcels also cannot exist in today's dating app, hookup era where men are downbad for pretty much anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:02 PM
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Yes, yes it is. I think english may not be your first language. Better google what urban dictionary meaning of "grinding" is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:47 PM
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Than you are being willfully ignorant. She was literally grinding on him lmfao. Something tells me if she lashed out about him getting a "friendly" lapdance or having a woman hump his leg, the media would be in her favor.. Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:44 PM
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It's almost as if men have emotions like women. Almost as if they're human. Almost as if it's normal for men to feel some type of way if they saw their partner grinding up on another person. How dare he?! lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:39 PM
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So you're telling me if you saw your partner grinding up on another person, you wouldn't feel some type of way? How dare men have emotions and boundaries lol. Like I said, if the genders were reversed and this guy was getting a lapdance, he would be persecuted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:37 PM
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Same. It's funny seeing redditors call me an "incel" when I can guarantee I pull more than 99% of these guys lol. Apparently acknowledging male issues makes any man an "incel".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:33 PM
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There are alot of oxymoron statements lol. Like, also, how women claim that guys have "high and unrealistic beauty standards for women" then will turn around and say how guys will "sleep with anything". Just as you pointed out, these cannot exist at the same time. And let's not forget the whole "small d*ck energy" thing. But body positivity, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:30 PM
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Having boundaries doesn't = controlling. Controlling would be him trying to keep her in the house. I guarantee if the genders were switched, every outlet would be cheering her on "She knows her worth" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:25 PM
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I dont think you wanting your partner to have boundaries in public is the an indicator that you're abusing them.. And hindsight is 20/20.. There are millions of couples who appear happy in public but argue behind closed doors that no one will ever know about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:24 PM
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she woke up and had to find something to get triggered over, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:49 PM
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Here in the states, i've seen "partner" refer to both married and non-married people. OP is the type of person to argue for the sake of it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:47 PM
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I use Instagram mainly to meet women. But have seen some of my friends meet girls from tiktok lol. For instagram, you can just comment on your friends pictures (and girls sometimes will follow you), see who's commenting on their pics (and shoot your shot since they know your friend), use stories to get women interested, use the location feature to find women in your city, etc. I've used all of these different ways to meet women on Instagram... Esp stories. I've noticed that alot of women spend a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:05 AM
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Social media will always be the best "dating" app for average guys to warm approach lol. IDK why anyone who isn't attractive would use any of these dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 05:14 PM
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It only takes getting lucky once. And I don't think majority of people who met their spouse online are meeting on dating apps. Social media can also be a dating platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 10:55 PM
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Yep. I had to end some friendships because we no longer had much in common since their interests changed (and I found their new interests boring). Can't imagine dating someone I don't find interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 10:53 PM
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who knew 25 was old LOL. And I can date whomever I want. If you don't like it, mind your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 10:26 PM
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so in other words, it's too insignificant to draw a conclusion from.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 02:00 PM
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thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 09:46 PM
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Can't find anything on the sample size nor the circumstances/parameters of that study.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 07:29 PM
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It is that bad. Has it not already been evident with the rise of onlyfans? If guys were getting what they wanted (sexually), the porn industry would collapse overnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 07:18 PM
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Agreed. Most of female friends have been offered money at some point for attention, pics, or intercourse. It's sad to say that most guys are downbad and lonely for any type of female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 07:15 PM
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Alot of them also promote going to the gym and taking care of yourself. Pretty sure only a tiny minority will only tell you that "looks don't matter" but most of them acknowledge the importance of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 05:18 PM
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This is obviously assuming you're attractive enough to get legitimate matches from real women who actually want to meet. I'm a decent looking guy who doesn't like to approach women so I prefer dating apps. Pretty much all of my matches are real. The attention seekers do exist but they aren't much of a problem since I can spot them early on into a conversation. If you're a guy who takes does the bare minimum to looksmax, take care of yourself, and take good pics, you'll do pretty well on it. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 05:15 PM
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Once again, you're talking about hypotheticals. I'm talking about reality. Not everyone can live or lives in Arkansas so IDK why you're bringing it up like it's relevant. Do you have ADHD or something? Seems you're finding it hard to stay on topic lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:49 PM
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This is why dating apps and social media works wonders. You know who's interested in you without all the games nor having to awkwardly approach anyone irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:42 PM
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We're not talking about hypotheticals here. We're talking about average, real people in the real world. Statistically, the average 20 something yo is in debt and works low paying jobs. IDC what some small % of people in the age bracket was able to accomplish since it doesn't apply to an average person.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:39 PM
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Cool story bro. The statistics say otherwise. IDC about your friends group. Average 20 something yo is in debt and is broke working low paying jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 06:05 PM
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The average woman is literally in a relationship with an age gap lmao. Average age gap is about 2.3 years here in the west... and it expands one you go to more conservative countries. Most women are rarely ever interested in guys their own age. Usually a couple years older.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 02:17 PM
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Not really. Go to tiktok. Most guys who get worshiped have a mix of pretty (feminine) and masculine features. I'd say I fit that criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:25 PM
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If you're asking if i'm tall, no. I'm only a little over 5'8. I stopped growing at 16.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:37 PM
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And i've had the complete opposite. Had girls growing up call me "pretty", "cute", and giving me compliments on my feminine features.. and I always had girls crushing on me because of it. Even with me being 25 now and still being feminine-androgynous, I get the exact same compliments lol. Dating apps, I have a ton of success and I have women messaging me first and wanting to meet up with me ASAP. This doesn't mean that every woman is attracted to me, obviously. But there are a ton of women who d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:03 PM
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Love how you cannot grasp the concept that other people have different standards of attraction than you lmao. "Omg I don't find this attractive so there's no way other people do"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:33 PM
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So like how alot women seem to feel about themselves thinking they're all equivalent to supermodels yet cannot answer what they "bring to the table" coherently.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:31 PM
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Well as someone who also has a lot of female friends, I disagree. 80% of my friends growing up were women. And from my own experiences, women do go for and date older men. Esp here in the Midwest. Like back in highschool, it wasn't uncommon for 17-18 yos to be dating guys in college (19-22). And back when I was 18-23, I knew a ton of women who were dating OR have dated men 3-10 years older than themselves. In some cultures, it's not frowned upon and pretty common 🤷‍♀️. Like even me being 25 yos …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:20 PM
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My dating life says otherwise 🤷‍♀️. Like I said, you're projecting your own failures lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:14 PM
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"I haven't experienced it so it doesn't exist".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:29 AM
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no they can't. You're out of touch with reality. Most 20 yos are in debt from college or working low paying jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:25 AM
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High value = highly desired. The reason most people cannot pinpoint it is because it varies country by country, city by city, and sometimes even person by person. Like if you live in some second world country, making only $20k/year may make you "high value" because you're in the top 10% but obviously in wealthier countries, you'd be poor at this income level. So "high value" varies. And this is only income. Other things like looks, fashion, life choices, connections, influence, etc also vary.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:23 AM
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Ah, yes, because the entire world revolves around you. "I haven't heard of him so he's not popular" despite him being one of the most followed young men on social media (19 million followers on instagram alone).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:18 AM
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you're projecting hard. I am androgynous guy who has pretty good success with women despite me having feminine eyes, being clean shaven, having clear skin, etc. I guess I am a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:16 AM
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Yet, here I am, a feminine-androgynous guy who has a pretty good dating life. Guess i'm a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:14 AM
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Are most misandrists just gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:05 AM
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You are british so I speak from the perspective of an american. Could be entirely different there but hookup culture is prevalent in most big cities in america. 10 years ago meeting someone through the internet was still seen as taboo and Tinder (as well as most social media platforms) was new. Nowadays it's common to meet someone through a dating apps or through social media (Tiktok, Instagram, Snapchat, Discord) and meetup with them fairly quickly. Nowadays hooking up with a stranger through t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:56 AM
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The same reason men lie on penis size surveys and why both men & women lie about the number of sexual partners they have.. Pride & insecurities. Simple as that. Reddit is also anonymous yet you have people fabricating entire lives to strangers they'll never meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 07:45 PM
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Bro when people say "treat you like a queen" that's literally what it means lmao. Also, your entire question literally implies the extremes of two ends (put on on a pedestal or treat her like trash).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 07:43 PM
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Well said lol. It's crazy how much hookup culture has taken over. The only reason alot of people think it's not as prevalent is because they don't participate in it themselves or they don't have active social lives to see it. But I've seen the most so called "religious" women move to a bigger city for college (or after) and start hooking up with alot of guys once she has that freedom to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 07:40 PM
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Surveys don't always paint the full picture since anyone can lie about anything on them. They do have some merit but I take my own experience and seeing how people are actually acting in the real world over what they say. Unless you're literally spying on people or watching them IRL, we don't truly know how accurate relationship data is on surveys lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 07:33 PM
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eh, what? Yes it is lmao. The entire point is that you view her as royalty if you treat her like a "queen". And you can treat someone well without putting them on a pedestal and treating them like royalty so i'm not sure why you're associating those together.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:40 PM
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I am biased from my own experiences, despite whatever data you may have. This is purely anecdotal but as someone who has alot of female friends, I've noticed that women who are getting their needs satisfied sexually are less inclined to get into relationships. Like right now I can name a few female friends I have that have active sex lives yet aren't in relationships with anyone. One of my female friends even recently told me that she just hookups with any guy she finds "hot". Alot of women are …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:37 PM
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Yah true. This is honestly why I prefer dating apps because I don't want to approach women since I know they'll rarely approach me. It seems women try harder to get you on dating apps than they do IRL. I get alot of more compliments and women messaging me first than IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:26 PM
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Literally depends on what you want. If you want the best looking women, men DO peak at around 20-27 yos since they are the most youthful, healthy, and attractive at this age.. which attracts the most youthful, healthy, and attractive women (18 - 23 yos). Sure, you can get more money or whatever at 30-45 but you will not have access to the best, quality women you could've had when you were younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:12 PM
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I'm a huge fan of dating apps but it's crazy we live in a world where people don't know how to meet people IRL anymore lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:05 PM
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we do tho.. lol. But it's entirely different to receive a compliment from a male friend and a woman you're interested in (or any woman for that matter). You get compliments from both men and women. It's funny because the women who get no compliments from men are often insecure in themselves so they know exactly how men feel when we don't get compliments.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:02 PM
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Pretty sure people are only referring to hookups and flings. Obviously, an attractive, "high value" guy isn't going to be dating like 15 different women unless he has literally no life. But when it comes to hookups and short term flings, it is significantly easier for them to get laid. But, to some extent, this DOES affect relationships. Like if a woman is getting her needs satisfied sexually, she may be less incentivized to get into a relationship for the time being.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:59 PM
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Neither? Both parties should be giving 100% lol. Don't put anyone on a pedestal. Idealization often leads to disappointment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:56 PM
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There aren't enough border agents to patrol every corner of an entire country unless it's the size of the Vatican City lol. And I'd imagine it's even worse during a frenzy. Alot of corruption (paying off agents) and people being able to be smuggled across pretty easily. I'd be on some cartel stuff hiding in a box inside a trunk lol.
/r/AntiFeminists13/09/23 11:13 PM
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This is why i'd never fight in a war. There is zero to gain from it unless you're a politician or businessman profiting from it. I'd rather just flee with the women lol..
/r/AntiFeminists10/09/23 07:45 PM
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TO be fair, that's the entire reason they're fighting in the first place. TO protect their family, their culture, and their homeland.. So when they come back home to nothing, it makes you wonder "what was this even for?" lol.
/r/AntiFeminists10/09/23 07:42 PM
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Am not surprised. Women don't have the same loyalty men have, due to evolution. When societies were conquered & the men were killed off, women were pretty much forced to adapt to the conquerors. Only loyal to their own wellbeing and their offsprings.
/r/AntiFeminists10/09/23 07:39 PM
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meh. I mean if these men wanted to change, they can. Like I said, this also applies to women. The only guys I actually feel sympathy for are guys who are actually trying to go out there to better themselves and meet women but aren't succeeding. But a guy who sits around doing absolutely nothing and complaining? No sympathy from me lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 01:09 AM
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Benefit in what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:42 PM
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No.. it's not like this issue hasn't been debated on here dozens of times already.. ​ In seriousness, most people on this sub acknowledge this double standard and alot of us agree with you on this. But what exactly can be done, realistically? You either accept the world as it is and change or face the consequences when you don't get the results you want. The same thing also applies to women. A woman who sits around all day not doing anything with her life will also face the consequences of not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:33 PM
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Agreed. I'd hate for a child to be born into an unwanted family. Better to not have kids if you're on the fence than regret having any. Not everyone is paternal. r/raisedbynarcissists and dozens of other subs are full of people who were mistreated, ignored, unloved, and abused by their parents growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:24 PM
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The same thing applies to people with kids too, by your own logic. There are entire subs and groups on facebook where people disclose that they regret parenthood. r/regretfulparents has 91k members, for example.. And there are much larger ones on facebook.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:23 PM
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Freedom: no kids, more time to do as you please and in some cases no partner more time to do as you please. That’s more so in the US as in Japan they are known for using more free time to work more. In other countries travel and leisure are much bigger. I agree with this. It's the main reason I don't want kids and why alot of people I know don't plan to have kids until their late 20s - 30s. People want to actually enjoy life while they're still young, not immediately have kids after college or w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 09:54 PM
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Same. But then again, the thing is that this really only applies to millennials since the oldest zoomer is like 28. I think once zoomers start getting in their 30s, it may be much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 09:51 PM
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Average is location dependent, ethnic dependent, and universal. Like if you live in a place with alot of brown haired people with green eyes, that's average in that specific area. In other areas, it may be completely different. But there are universal average things that can also vary by country. For example, facial symmetry. Most human faces have very little deformities, straight teeth, and little facial acne.. this is universally average. But even then it can vary based on country and ethnicit…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 09:47 PM
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Obviously. I'm saying it plays into the overall aesthetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:41 PM
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Hair: From a facial aesthetics perspective, alot, since every person on earth has a different face shape. So everyone should have a hairstyle that compliments their face shape. Some girls can pull short, med, or long styles that others cannot. Some girls can pull off bangs while others cannot. Etc. I don't have a specific preference just whatever fits their specific face shape. I've seen chicks that I had a crush on go from 7s to 5s with a bad hairstyle that didnt fit their face shape lol ​ Styl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 05:17 PM
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than it must be an american thing because I don't think I've ever seen a gender-exclusive social group. Virtually everyone ik has both male and female social groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:26 PM
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I don't believe in work friendships. I have a social circle outside of work and always had a social circle outside of school.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:13 AM
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Obviously. I literally said "We have stuff in common with people by their hobbies, interests, and personality. " So I obviously recognize that it's more than just a hobby that keeps people around. I'm just acknowledging that a large part of it is hobbies since this is literally what you do with people when you hang out with them. Unless you just sit around and stare at the wall when you hang out with your friends lmfao..
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 06:01 PM
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And you fundamentally misunderstand the implication of what means, pretty much all those relationships started because the men being selected have gotten past the looks threshold, which means their communication skills take a backseat compared to their looks, ergo "talking like they would to men" is an absolutely useless advice. Ik bro. Read my flair. I agree with you lol. But I personally think if you do the bare minimum to looksmax as an average guy, you can reach this threshold for most avera…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:58 PM
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You can leverage off of the connections you do have. Like even if a woman isn't single, she may have friends in her group who are. These friends may have similar hobbies and interests to her but just don't engage in the bigger community itself. Like, if a woman enjoys cycling, she may not be in some ride along group but she may just cycle by herself but have friends who do ride alongs.. if you catch my drift. But I do agree that when it comes to violent, hardcore sports like boxing, there will o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:36 PM
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I'm 25. I have friends in the age range of 20 - late 30s. And I have a wide variety of hobbies: gaming, working out, muay thai, cycling, music, movies, outdoor activities, etc. Most of my friends are women. All of these women are around me because they have the same hobbies and interests I do. And just because one specific hobby or get together doesn't have alot of women doesn't mean ALL of your hobbies do not lmao. I met most of my female friends through my hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 02:46 PM
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AH yes hanging out with other people is so degenerate. Better to be like this guy complaining about how hard it is to meet women because he takes no initiative to meet people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:57 PM
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This is just gaslighting, over 40% of relationships are made on the internet, I agree. But this is only MEETING people. These relationships obviously carry on to real life pretty quickly. It's not like you're meeting someone and talking to them strictly on the internet for months before dating lmao. You meet them online, talk a bit, and usually ask to meet up fairly quickly if you like eachother. ​ 3rd party communal hangouts in America are dead, the only other options are bars (lol), nightclubs…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:53 PM
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Except they are. Most people dont want to hang out with people if they have nothing in common with that person. We have stuff in common with people by their hobbies, interests, and personality. Common sense stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:33 PM
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Just say you've never talked to women before without saying it LOL. Alot of you guys dont talk to women and act as if they're an entirely different species. They're human with the same interests and hobbies as men. Like even the "nerdy" things that were considered predominantly male-dominated like anime or video games, there are alot of women who take interest in them. 49% of gamers are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:28 PM
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The red pill isn't about complaining. A specific sub-section is though..mainly the mgtow guys and the people who have "red pill rage" where you basically go through this pipeline of bluepill to redpill lol. I do agree though that complaining without self improvement is pretty dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:39 AM
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If that's the case, women aren't owed relationships nor anything from men lol. So anytime you see women complain about f-boys and being in situationships, you better be there telling them that men owe them nothing and to get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 09:15 PM
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sounds like a personal problem. I dont drink, never did drugs, and never smoked yet I still go out and enjoy myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:10 PM
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Nailed it lmao. "I dont engage in such activities" - 🤓👆
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:09 PM
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On top of that, why does everyone assume your social group is restricted to school? lmao. Like nothing is stopping him from going to social settings where women will be if you actually have an active social life. Festivals, meetups, bars, concerts, get-togethers, parties, raves, etc will all have women present.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:05 PM
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me or him? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:01 PM
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yah, and? That's one class my guy. There is life outside of a classroom lmfao. I know people who were going to college and had friends attending other schools or who didn't even go to college but were working. This isn't highschool. You can make friends outside of a college classroom. On top of that, I'm including ALL adults, not just college students.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:00 PM
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Yep. used to be in uni. People had mixed friend groups. Whats your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:47 PM
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except they don't. You gotta be like 60 or something. Times have changed. Most young people under like 35 have mixed social groups with men and women lmao. Never been to a party, gettogether, or social setting? There are both men and women at these places.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:44 PM
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tf is a female social group? You're either trolling, are old, or dont go outside. I'm 25 and most people my age have a mixed social group of men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:41 PM
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Yep. Clothes reveal alot about your age, personality type, and how you carry yourself as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:38 PM
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By having common hobbies, interests, and being in the same social circles as women? Pretty much the exact same way you made your male friends.. Not every woman I interact with wants to sleep with me nor do I want to sleep with them. Why is this concept so hard for people to grasp?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:30 PM
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pretty much. If you and your partner are both studs who take care of yourselves and actually do things to keep eachother interested, alot of dead bedrooms would disappear.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 11:27 PM
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you sure about that? I'm an attractive guy and get told all the time that i'm attractive by women. Never did I ever think it was just because of my "personality" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:55 PM
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They aren't though.. Aren't like 60% of men single lol. And I would be curious to see what % of men in "relationships" are just FWBs or in "situationships".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:51 PM
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People losing attraction to one another. Idk why but it seems after people get around mid to late 20s, they just completely let themselves go. Esp once they have kids. People feel like they no longer have to put in that same effort it took to attract their partner in the first place. That romantic, playful, & fit person who you were attracted to at 23 is no longer the same person at 38. They now have a beer belly and sit at home watching tv in their free time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:46 PM
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It's not about identification. It's just pure attraction. I dont think most women find other women attraction enough to be sexual nor romantic partners. Like I said, why aren't most women dating other women if this is the case? You seem like you don't have alot of female friends IRL. I've never seen a straight woman gossip about which girl they want to sleep with. But I do, all the time, see my straight female friends (and their friends) share pics with eachother of guys they have an interest in…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 02:36 PM
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Sure bud. And now how many of those "straight" women are actively pursing other women for sexual and romantic relationships (vs only pursing men).. my point still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:38 PM
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They are still the minority. Sure, you can cherrypick female sex workers who have sex with women for money or bi-curious women who may kiss a woman but are still "mostly straight" but these are still the minority. Most women are straight. Most women don't want to date nor have intercourse with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:19 PM
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I have alot of female friends and most of them show zero interest in other women. I think straight women may lead them on because of the aesthetic attraction but have zero sexual nor romantic interest in anything. But I think if anything, it's usually the bi-curious girls who try to come onto straight women. I've had straight female friends tell me how some of their bi-curious friends have tried to kiss them or "make a move" on them and how uncomfortable it made them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:46 PM
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You can disagree all you but, statistically, most women are straight and have no sexual nor romantic desire to be with another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:41 PM
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I know lmfao. I guess this is just an argument out of semantics tbh. When most of us think of "overweight", we think of curvy with some weight. When we think of obese, we think of round and big. So you are kinda right in your assessment. When I think of obese, I think of people like this. Like people who look like they can barely hold themselves up and walk like penguins lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 06:09 AM
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false. I explained my reasoning above. And i'm personally a fit guy myself so I know how BMI works. If you understand BMI, you know it's kinda flawed to some extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:41 AM
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Because BMI has a bit of subjectivity to it. For example, bulky bodybuilders are technically "overweight" eventhough they are in shape. And lean guys who stay fit with swimming, cycling, running could be "underweight" eventhough they are also in shape. It's not always black and white. Ashley Graham is "overweight/obese" eventhough she has a pear shaped body and no gut.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:38 AM
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technically, they are obese. But when I think of obese, I think of round or rectangle bodies. Those women still have curves that most overweight & obese women don't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:34 AM
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Me personally, alot. Especially if women find you attractive, they feel entitled to you. My most recent assault was at an old job where a woman grabbed my junk when no one was looking. My first time I remember being assaulted was at 9 yos where an older girl (who was like 13-14 at the time) forcibly kissed me on the lips. I've prob been assaulted atleast 2 dozen times in my lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:23 AM
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The more I hung around lesbian and bisexual women the more Ive seen straight tons of women date other women. By definition, they aren't straight. There may be alot of bi-curious women but they are still the minority. Most women are straight and show zero interest in other women. I just think that alot of women are aesthetically attracted to women but aren't romantically nor sexually attracted to them. For example, they may genuinely think a girl is cute or even hot but this doesn't mean they wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:14 AM
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exactly. I was thinking obese and round. But those girls are facially attractive and have good curves (hour glass figure). They're still pretty goodlooking and i'm someone who's into fit chicks so that says alot lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:04 AM
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Those overweight girls you linked still are facially attractive and have good curves. I was thinking obese. Given that, I would go for the overweight 20 yo if they are still curvy and are facially attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:02 AM
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It's likely because men swipe right more than women while women are more selective. Like a woman may only have 3 matches at the end of the day but a guy might have 10 simply because he swipes right more. So it makes more sense for him to be more selective in who he messages since time is finite. Men swipe right 6x more than women.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 01:34 PM
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YouTube "rate yourself 1-10". It's basically a game where people rate themselves and their photos are shown to other people. Usually men overrate women and women underrate men. Like you'll have an average looking guy being rated a 3 or 4 and sometimes even lower. You can see first hand how women rate men.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 01:31 PM
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false. Show me how you statistically gathered that the "majority of men on this sub" complain about not getting "young hot" women. Most men in general would settle for an average woman. It's women who think they deserve above average men lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 01:13 PM
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bro are you me? I'm also 5'8 and red, black, and blue pilled. I've never seen anyone with that handle before I had it haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:03 PM
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Bad example since you used a woman who's above average. $67k/year is well above average for a woman, esp if she's young. And a 7/10 is above average (5/10 is average). So this actually debunks your theory if you're using above average women as examples of men "only wanting women who're into them" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:33 PM
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true. In the US, the average person takes 6 years to finish a 4 year degree.. So your average person isn't graduating until they're around 24-25. And they prob wont have their first "real" jobs until 25-26.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:29 PM
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I'm always curious to see this because I don't expect much from women tbh. Most people don't figure out what they want to do and start an official career until their mid 20s. So I dont expect a woman to have a career sorted (or atleast knows what she wants to do) until around 24-26 ish. I would think it's the same vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:26 PM
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It's not a question of "want", it's by "who". They want to be approached by men they're attracted to, not random average men they have no interest in. Reminds me of one of my ex-friends who would always complain that "men never approached" her. And then when I kept questioning her (since I didn't believe her) she got to the root that she actually meant men she found attractive never approached her lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:36 PM
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Faith? lol. Gender roles existed long before religion was a thing so no..
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:31 PM
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Once again, most women don't answer and the ones who do answer, the convos never lead to anything. You're proving my point of either being a woman, clearly never using dating apps, or having alot of success on dating apps. Just because you get 10 matches doesn't mean you'll get 10 dates lmfao. Off the bat of those 10 matches, some of them will likely be either bots, OF girls, or time wasters. For the ones who're real, most of them will straight up not answer. So you'll be left with a couple matc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:35 PM
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Lmfao. You cannot show women your "personality" if you dont meet the minimum looks threshold to get matches in the first place. You sound extremely inexperienced, no offense. Reminds me of how I used to think when I was 12. Going based on statistics, the average guy doesn't meet this threshold since they get less than 10 matches/month. And the average guy isn't getting dates that can progress to relationships from dating apps. If you really think women only swipe right on 6-7% of men for their "…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:00 PM
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You sound like someone who either has clearly never used dating apps, is a woman, or gets alot of matches yourself (so you cannot sympathize with an average man).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:22 PM
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disagree. In the real world, average people date average people. It's only on dating apps and instagram where you have to be exceptional to attract someone. Go outside and I bet you can count on one hand how many attractive couples you see. Most couples are average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:20 PM
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No, not really. Most women dont respond.. and for most of the ones who do respond, the convos usually go stale pretty fast since these women are usually talking to alot of other men (so they will go for the men who they're most interested in). Matches dont mean anything unless they lead to dates, which most of them dont. So unless you're getting dozens of likes a month, goodluck lol. And I say this as a guy who gets 100+ likes a month. But for the average guy, they get absolutely nothing lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 08:51 PM
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both? Pretty sure most people have a range. I like slim women but I also love curvy women with nice thighs. I find all 6 of those bodies in the pic you linked attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:10 PM
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Literally depends on the age. In my age range 20-27 yo women, I'd say I find atleast 50-60% of them "bangable" and maybe 30-35% of them genuinely attractive (good facial features). But if you're talking overall, sure it's obviously lower than this. But it doesn't matter since I'm not going for these women anyway lol. Also, having a good face doesn't mean i'm interested in her. I think its a combo of face, body, fashion, and how she carries herself. I've met alot of attractive women I have no int…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:05 PM
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Agree with everything besides the dating app thing. I can't rem where I saw it but I saw a stat that said the average guy only gets around 6 matches a month and has a match rate of only 2.5%. Dating apps are skewed towards attractive and above average men. There should be no logical reason that women swipe right on only 7% of men, esp average women. Thus, even if you have stuff going for yourself, if you're not an attractive male, you'll struggle on dating apps. But for real life dating, I agree…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:54 PM
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Disagree. I think you're close but not there. They have more success because they have more opportunities. Everyone wants to be around them. And because everyone wants to be around them, women want to too. They can have peak social proof despite not doing anything. They are the ones being approached by women. They don't have to do the approaching. And when they do approach, they're less likely to get a "no". A "chad" can approach 10 women and have more success than a normal guy approaching 50 wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:10 PM
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Dont you all ever get tired of blaming this mysterious "capitalism" for all your problems? As if no other place on earth or time period in history has ever had any problems when it comes to dating and social issues lmao. Seems like a scapegoat everyone uses for everything now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:05 PM
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Never? I dont think i've ever been vulnerable and it ever being a positive. Like i've never had a partner say to me "aww, i'm glad you're opening up to me". The only people who ever did this were female friends, not lovers lol. Had this one friend who I was always pretty cold to at first but when I started to open up to her, she liked it because she felt she knew more about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:02 PM
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this is true but I'm sure they don't care about satisfying their partner if they hate the opposite sex to begin with lol. I'm sure they're only in it for themselves in the first place..
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:50 PM
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Effort.. Giving me random gifts that cater to my interests (doesn't even have to be anything expensive), cooking me a homemade meal, being the one offering to do things, surprising me with dates, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:27 PM
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There are people who hate the opposite gender yet still have active sex and dating lives.. I think it all boils down to physical attraction. If you're attractive, alot of people will still desire you, no matter how toxic you are as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:21 PM
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I use Troddit because reddit mobile is terrible.. IDK how anyone uses it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 05:45 PM
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How dare men express their own frustrations!? These are the same types of people who say how men should "open up more" then when men open up, we're told to man up, called "incels", and constantly told how we "aren't sh*t" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:38 PM
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Im a guy who does extremely well with women and it's exactly why I speak up for marginalized men who struggle. I've seen for myself how undesired guys are treated and I think it's gross. And I've seen for myself how society views men as disposable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 09:35 PM
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I never said anything about any study nor did I cite any study. Learn how to read my man LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 05:47 PM
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That's not what I said. I said people are treated better because they're attractive. I never said they should be lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 04:03 PM
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My guy i'm referring to your ORIGINAL POST. You specifically said "kidnapped or assaulted". I think you need to reread your own post lmfao. So obviously if you're making a claim on something as general as "assault", I'm going to question those claims since it is a broad term. I'll read those later but I'm also still waiting on you to draw the correlation with that and men overwhelmingly being a threat to women. Where are your studies that show that most men are out "assaulting" women or have "as…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:10 PM
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I love how posts like this always ignore the fact that these women are voluntarily getting into relationships with these men. Unless they're being forced at gunpoint, the women are also at fault. This also goes both ways. Older women also prey on younger men. I've personally experienced this myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:03 PM
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You need a "scientist" to know that being more physically attractive warrants you better treatment? Have you never been inside a school? A workplace? A club? A social gathering/setting? A concert/festival?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:00 PM
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once again, it's a broad term and you've yet to still provide anything. No specific definition. No linked studies. Nothing. ​ On top of this, you have to also draw the correlation between those studies and men actually being a threat to women. For all we know, 0.5% of men can be doing all of the assaults, which would debunk your entire narrative that men as a whole are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:53 PM
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Yet you didn't provide that nor any studies. And "assault" can be as broad as verbal or physical. Even physical assault itself can be broad. It can be as broad as someone grabbing you to straight up being graped. You also have to add intention. Like even someone grabbed you, what were their intentions. And, once again, men are less likely to report their experiences. I have several experiences myself that I never shared with anyone IRL of me being assaulted by women (verbally and physically). Fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 02:37 PM
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"Assault" is a broad term... and we don't know how this would compare to men since it's well known that domestic violence against men is laughed at so men are less likely to speak up about their own experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 03:15 AM
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I never said I disagreed with their talking points. It' just cringe that their entire existence seems to center around how bad the dating market is in the west..
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:59 PM
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because they're often extremely bitter and feel the need to "show off" telling the entire world of their endeavours. Like i've seen tiktok pages where all they do is dunk on western women and it just comes off looking so desperate for attention and just sad. You can tell alot of those dudes have some deep issues due to constant rejection and now that they're finally getting some real attention from women, they feel the need to show off lmao. It's like people who grow up poor, finally get some mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 08:33 PM
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Naturally? Men. If you take away all the cosmetic stuff women have to artificially improve their appearance, I think men are naturally more aesthetically pleasing. But if we're talking artificially? Ofc, women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 07:32 PM
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I cringe at passport bros but I think that western women do belittle women in other countries by acting like they can't make decisions for themselves. I've even heard western women literally call these women "poor and uneducated" lmfao. How insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 07:27 PM
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Getting kidnapped or assaulted on a date isn't a typical heterosexual man problem. Neither is it for women. Gotta love this propaganda being pushed that men are evil creatures who cannot contain themselves looking to assault every and any woman. And if you're this paranoid about dating men, don't date men. Sounds like you are projecting your own trauma onto the world. ​ The most 'traumatic' dating story most men can cough up really doesn't compare. Says who? I've literally heard stories of men I…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 07:24 PM
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False. Like I told the other guy, I'm an attractive guy who attracts alot of women. For reference, My 1 yo tinder profile currently has 800+ matches and I get alot of attention from women IRL. So I've had my fair share of women and going on dates with ALOT of women. I've literally had women who look like models come my way (and some even were amateur models). So as someone who has "been there done that", there is literally no difference between a 6/10 and 9/10. Yes, one is technically more attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 04:55 PM
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nothing to cap about my man. I'm an attractive guy so I attract alot of women (not to gloat). I've had women who literally look like models come my way and I still treat them the same way I treat your "cute girl next door" type of woman. Doens't matter much to me. I'm an adult. Looks are only the tiny part of a healthy relationship/sex life. Like I said, being better looking doesn't magically make you a better partner nor does it make you better in bed (or a spicier sex life).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:52 PM
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This too but I think if you're always improving something everyday, you'll have options. Like if you work on ways to become less socially awkward or recognize when you're doing socially inept things with therapy/meds, you can improve on this. Same goes for physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 01:15 AM
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Nothing since looks is only a tiny piece of the puzzle. Being extremely goodlooking wont make her a better partner nor better in bed. I wouldn't treat a gigastacy any different than I would treat a regular cute girl. Both meet my minimum looks threshold so it doesnt make a difference to me if the chick is a 6 or a 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:59 PM
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Disagree. I mainly speak up for those rare cases where a guy is just straight up extremely unattractive, physically disabled, or deformed. But for the average male, I agree with you. I'd like to also note that just because a woman is interested in you, doesn't mean that you'll be interested or attracted to her.. Has to go both ways.. But beggars can't be choosers lol..
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:54 PM
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She doesn't have to go to the gym, she just has to be outside or exercising doing something multiple times a week. Like even if it's just cycling, jogging, or playing tennis 2-3 times a week, it's better than nothing. I'm fit so I want someone who is also fit and actually does things to stay active.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:50 PM
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As someone who didn't start dating until I was like 21-22 yos, this is just false lol. The entire reason alot of us don't date and take relationships seriously is because we don't find value in casual sex. Why would I suddenly become promiscuous if I frown upon promiscuity? Your logic makes no sense. I think this only applies if you grew up sheltered but if you lack experience by your own choice, you will not cheat nor desire to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 03:34 PM
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That's not what pre-selection is lmao. Pre-selection in normie terms is basically just "this guy won't kill me and is nice to be around". That's it. It's basically just proof of concept. Obviously you still have to meet her minimum looks threshold. And even attractive guys can still be rejected if they come off as creepy loners. Hence, why you need social proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:39 PM
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Everyone cares about looks and everyone only cares about someone as long as they're doing something for them. Unconditional love doesn't exist. I 100% guarantee you're not going after broke, unattractive guys who aren't doing anything with their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:36 PM
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I agree with this and it's worse because of tiktok now lol. But then again, I also don't agree since you do see average people getting into relationships with other average people. I think this really only matters if you're meeting people online. It's easier in person for the average person.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 07:31 PM
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This is the most accurate comment I've seen on attracting women. It really is as simple as meeting a min looks threshold and actually going up to women running a numbers game. The more goodlooking you are, the less women you have to approach and the easier it is to escalate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 07:28 PM
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I'm a bi (pansexual) man and personally find women to be more homophobic/biphobic than straight men. I receive more backlash from women than men. Most straight men do not care as long as you aren't hitting on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 12:34 AM
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Well said lol. I wanna see how she'll twist it this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 06:56 PM
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Men and women are both human. I don't ascribe to this notion of men being emotionless robots lmfao. Your argument would make sense if men and women were an entirely different species.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 06:55 PM
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LOL! Well most guys don't have abundance and most guys will have to be the one approaching women. You can use all the fancy buzz words you want to say how a man should be but the reality is that we're all still human at the end of the day and no one wants to be rejected. We all have our insecurities and we're all emotional and want to feel accepted. I ask again, would you keep the same energy for a female friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:56 PM
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I agree with the competition thing. Guys being out of the market, both fortunately/unfortunately, makes it easier for guys like us who're putting themselves out there. It's why i'm on the fence about it. Why would I make dating harder for myself? lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:51 PM
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Ah yes because men are emotionless robots. Would you keep the same energy when women get rejected? If a female friend came to you saying how she's sad she got rejected, you're telling me you'd say to her "Well, if you were a genuinely nice person, you'd move on"? Seems a bit apathetic and inhumane to suggest that she's the problem for being rejected and not taking rejection well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:48 PM
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Disagree. Literally no one wants to be rejected and this applies to both men/women. Feeling inadequate knowing that someone you like doesn't like you back is hard to take for most people. Just because we're men doesn't mean we're emotionless robots lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:46 PM
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Well, speaking from experience, I'm a guy who has rejected alot of girls growing up and no matter what I say or do to let them down, you'll always be seen as the bad guy lol. But I personally have only friendzoned one of them because she was already a friend before telling me she fancied me. The rest of them, I told them straight up i'm not interested and didn't offer friendship. I don't want a woman around who wants me when I don't want her (unless she was a friend beforehand). There have been …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:42 PM
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Lmao yikes. Maybe I misread
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 11:14 PM
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Alot of people will gaslight you but I've personally have seen my female friends (and their friends) purposely lead on guys knowing 100% those men are interested in them. I think the only way you can know is how often a woman initiates contact and asks to do stuff. Like, if you're always the one asking to hang out and it's always platonic (never flirtatious), she's not genuinely interested in you and it's time to move on...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 08:27 PM
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Don't let them gaslight you. Its weird how voicing a legitimate concern still somehow makes you a bad person lmfao. How dare you try to figure out if a woman is genuinely interested in you?!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 08:24 PM
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This def happens. I've seen this alot of times, as someone who has had a lot of female friends growing up. I've seen women going on "dates" and leading on men knowing they have a boyfriend..
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 08:22 PM
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And? Just don't cold approach then. Most chads are either on dating apps/social media to make themselves available or in social circles where they're constantly being introduced to single people.. my point still stands that if you're attractive, you will not struggle to attract cute girls.. no Chad is struggling. Speaking from personal experience, I'm above average looking (not a Chad), and do pretty well on dating apps. I have 800+ matches in a year and 99+ pending likes. Most of the women I ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 08:10 PM
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I'm talking about overall SMV when I say "attraction". To me, looks only make up 60% of attraction and alot of it has to do with meeting a "minimum looks threshold". The other 40% is a combination of redpill + bluepill stuff (money/finances, personality, life values/philosophical views, etc). But we do agree that looks make up the overwhelming majority of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 05:18 AM
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No disrespect but if you're having trouble pulling "cute" girls, it's probably because you aren't attractive enough to do so.. My take on this is pretty blackpilled. I think looks make up 60% of attraction. If you're attractive enough, you can go on Tinder or any dating app and find cute girls to go on dates with right now. You don't need to wait in the friendzone for months or years and hope for some opportunity to strike lol. That's just weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 01:09 AM
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25 yo here. 18 - 26 yos is ideal. Going based on my tinder matches (800+), the women who look the best are around 18-22 though. I find that alot of women let themselves go after and during college for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:54 PM
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it's almost as if he's a man actively participating in the dating market. How weird. Shouldn't it be obvious? Because this narrative affects ALL men, not just the men who struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:52 PM
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Obviously.. it's almost as if men and women can have common interests and bond on things. The only men who say this are men who don't get women easily so they feel every interaction has to be romantic. But if you have no issue getting women and have an active love life, you wouldn't think this way lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:46 PM
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Their point is that you should have a life and be satisfied outside your partner. Your partner shouldn't be your key to living a fulfilled life. Me, personally, I wouldn't want to be with someone who didnt have a life outside of me. I've dealt with clingy women like this in the past who put me on a pedestal and had to kick them to the curb. You need to have your own friends, hobbies, and life lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 10:14 PM
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Maybe you mean a life without companionship or physical intimacy. this. OP sounds lonely and is assuming that no lover = no human contact. If I want company or feel lonely, I call over friends to hangout or ask to go out somewhere. I even cuddle with close friends sometimes lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 10:07 PM
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There is no way to change someone's mind on this because it's entirely dependent on personality type and where you are in life. Not everyone seeks validation from romantic relationships. Not everyone has friends who just straight up abandon them after getting into relationships. Even then, less people are becoming married and having kids later in life anyway so I don't even feel this is relevant in today's age lol. Me, personally, most of the happiest periods of my life was with friends and work…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 10:01 PM
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They are relative, not subjective. Even then, there are universal standards of attraction. For example: clear skin, clean/straight teeth, good hygiene (skin, clothes, etc), good hair health, bright-white eyes, youthfulness, etc. These are only a few that are universal across both men and women and across virtually all cultures across the world. Obviously, when you consider culture, there will be alot of things are more relative. Even then, there are things that are still pretty objective. Like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 09:53 PM
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once again, it's not that black and white.. as explained in the huge paragraph above. You clearly read nothing I said lmao. You're literally using the same argument that I already addressed above.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 06:55 PM
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I dont care what other people say. I only speak for myself lol. I think a sexual market value does exist but it's just not as black and white as people make it. Redpillers think SMV = money + status. Blackpillers think SMV = looks. Bluepillers think SMV = personality and likeability. I personality think its all of these and a ton of other factors no one considers. I think there are some things that are objective. For example, most women don't want a man who's a complete bum so if given the choic…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 06:51 PM
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Obviously.. but the end goal is sex/a relationship. No one attracts people for the sake of attracting people, esp not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 06:45 PM
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…by their success or the lack thereof. I knew someone would say this lmao. Here's my response to it: The problem with this argument is that it assumes that everyone has the same ulterior motives, is putting in the same effort, and lives in the same cultural environment. For example, let's say you have two men who look the exact same and are around the same age. Let say one man is unemployed and goes to college in a college town (at one of the most promiscuous ones in the country). While another …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 06:40 PM
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looks/facial aesthetics aren't subjective..
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 06:26 PM
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this isn't a political republican vs democrat issue lmao. Not sure why you're making it that.
/r/ExRedPill29/04/23 06:23 PM
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How do you even argue this? It's completely subjective and cannot be objectively measured. How do you measure whether a standard is too high or too low? How do you measure someone's value? How do you know what the average male thinks his "value" even is?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 06:18 PM
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I would agree with you if we lived in the pre-information age before we had dozens of ways to prevent pre-mature aging. But nowadays there has been hundreds of millions (if not billions) of dollars invested into anti-aging research. I can link you to hundreds of papers and dozens of videos of doctors, dermatologists, scientists, etc telling you why our body ages and how to significantly slow down the process of aging. I've been researching this stuff for 2+ years now lol. The real problem is som…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:15 AM
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As someone heavily into looksmaxxing, this is just false lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 01:54 AM
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Not true. This is dependent on your genetics and how you take care of yourself (diet, exercise, and skincare) I've seen 18-24 yos who look like they're in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:26 PM
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You'd be surprised. The amount of times Ive seen guys being called "creepy" for having more than a 3-4 year age gap. I recently saw a 21 yo man bring called creepy for dating an 18 yo woman lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:24 PM
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Eh, what? 95% of people are straight so there is a 95% chance someone is straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:17 PM
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Honestly true. I feel highschool was def easier. Most people trying to find their first boyfriends/girlfriends so lower standards lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:08 PM
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Like I pointed out in another comment, you should have multiple social circles for completely different purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:06 PM
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I suppose it depends on how close that person is to your friend, family member, or acquaintance. If they're a super close friend, yeah, you should probably avoid a relationship with that person. But if it's just something light, it doesn't matter since that person will likely not be in their life in the longterm. Even then, It's best to have multiple social circles for different things. For example, you can have a friend social circle separated from a party/fun social circle (that is strictly fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:04 PM
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Your point? lol. I've literally have seen this happen irl as well. I just used tiktok as an example since it's empirical evidence that can be referred to (instead of personal anecdotes).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 10:00 PM
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I never said the data was wrong, my guy lol. I literally just want the source to see how the experiment was conducted. Nothing more to it than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 09:58 PM
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Depends if you're warming approaching (friends of friends/acquaintances/family) vs cold approaching (complete strangers). ​ I'd avoid approaching in the workplace unless they're in a completely different department so you will not have to see them if things go sour. I also wouldn't cold approach unless you're a straight up chad lol. I personally think warm approaching is the best approach since people know you and can vouch for you being a good guy, even if the woman doesn't find you that attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 08:54 PM
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Trying to find the source of the study and how they conducted the experiment. I find it extremely hard to believe that 42% of women ages 18-25 are voluntarily celibate lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 08:39 PM
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it reminds me of those tiktoks of women (friends) finding out that they were dating/sleeping with the same guys from dating apps lol. It happens so much more often than people care to credit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 08:23 PM
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I think it's because of the context. Being a pickme is basically the woman version of being a "simp". Like, for example, no one has a problem with a guy who wants to generally become more desirable to women. Like if he gets in shape, gets a good career, looksmax, etc. But there is a fine line between that and trying to do or say ANYTHING to impress any woman to the point where you come off being desperate. A pickme is basically the woman version of this. There is nothing wrong with genuinely wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 03:07 PM
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It seems that being a Pickme is basically the woman version of being a "simp" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 03:03 PM
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They are statistically rare. Going based on data: - 42% of american adults are obese (source) - Only 23% of men engage in sports/exercise on a daily basis, and only 19% of women do (source) - The average woman only swipes right on 7% of men (source) ​ It's rare to be BOTH fit and facially attractive. Sure, you may have an average looking guy (facially) who's in shape but I bet you can count on 2 hands how many guys you've seen in the past month or so who was both fit and attractive. They are sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:19 PM
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ehh that doesnt back your claim though. No where does it mention anything about the attractiveness of the people lol. And most people who're in relationships are average looking. Goodlooking, fit people are extremely rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 04:33 PM
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I don't agree with that last sentence. I think most people are monogamous and prefer monogamy, no matter how attractive they are. I think the only people who prefer to be with multiple people at the same time are people who're either sex addicts (high libido and aren't being satisfied by their partner) or people who lack something in their lives and are using sex/other people to fill in that void.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 06:53 PM
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I agree but also disagree. It's because average women don't want average men.. So average men have to stoop to the lowest of the lowest to try to get anything. I used to wonder why guys hype up all women until I realized how deprived most men were (I say this as an above average male). Most guys get no attention from women so they're going to do or say anything they can to get any woman they can lol. Beggars cannot be choosers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:37 PM
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and? The OP literally specified he was talking about tinder, which you can only message if you matched.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:34 PM
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Yes you do lmao. Do you have no female friends? I've met women who don't use dating apps and still have dozens of men they're texting. Like one woman I used to be friends with had like 100+ men she was texting on snapchat (she showed me). All of these men she met IRL from going out to bars, clubs, events, etc. And this chick wasn't even that goodlooking (slightly above average). If they have an active social life, it's entirely possible that they have access to hundreds of guys on a monthly basi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:29 PM
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I agree with you but I was pointing out him saying my "personality" was the reason. I enjoyed the company of both of these women and they enjoyed mines so it wasn't a personality issue lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 11:01 PM
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Obviously. And it's more than just personality. You guys assume way too much on here instead of asking for details. It's compatibility. Like I said, just because you can get a date or hookup doesn't mean you're going to automatically be romantically compatible with someone. They either stay as friends or hookups. For example, one woman I went on a date with (last year) was older than me (which i didn't mind). However, because of this, she was ready to start settling down and having kids. She was…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:17 PM
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You're joking but it's true. I've asked out around 5 different girls in real life that went no where (past 3 years). And on dating apps, I have no issue securing dates or hookups but, once again, they stay as either friends or just hookups because they're romantically incompatible. Just because you can hookup or secure a date doesn't mean you'll get a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 04:37 PM
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In real life? mid last year, around april. I've probably asked out around 5 different girls this past 3 years that went no where so I stick to dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 04:35 PM
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maybe because i'm younger but it's because people are usually dating people in the same age bracket. so those same people aren't equally as accomplished. I'm 24. Most people in my age bracket 20 - 26 are broke and in debt. So they have low expectations for men. They also expect you to be broke and in debt... Alot of women I've met are even still in school themselves or only just now getting their first "real" jobs post-college. I've never had a woman set high expectations for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 07:00 PM
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this too lol. I just made a new friend the other day from gaming. Played for hours together and talked about real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 06:51 PM
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As a guy also in his mid 20s, I disagree. Opposite for me. Making friends is easy. I get asked all the time by both men and women to do stuff/hang out. The last time I was ever asked on a date, outside of dating apps, was 3 years ago. And even on dating apps, It's rare to find a woman who's romantically compatible with me that goes beyond a friendship or hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 06:49 PM
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