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TheNewGuy04/r/MensRights11/01/16 03:57 AM
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Again "wasting your time", you dont have to reply. You are guilty of wasting your own time here. im not talking as if im an expert, im talking as someone with reason. Its without reason to think changing an entire culture, the personality of millions, is not difficult. History proves that attempts to change a culture are always in vain when attacked directly. So while i dont know much about their culture, i know people dont change easy. If its in their views to change their beliefs and personali…
/r/MensRights17/01/16 03:51 AM
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Right, i never denied that. However culture is a view shared by the majority, culture doesnt die easily. And no, im talking about them like they have been socialized differently. Socialization affects a persons morals and their entire personality. Culture shapes the personality, so its not just their views that youre trying to change, it is the fiber of their being. Its not impossible, its just hard.
/r/MensRights17/01/16 03:42 AM
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Great, people dont listen when their culture is being criticized, even by an inside source. do you think every german agreed with the nazis? No, many didnt. But they never had a chance at changing the culture. How many people have "disproved Christianity" or such things, have Christians ever listened? No. My point being, its very unlikely that they would.listen. that isnt nonesense, history proves that. And because you keep complaining about "this nonesense", dont reply if you dont like it. If y…
/r/MensRights16/01/16 10:35 PM
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Correct, i know not of this specific culture. But i do know that every time an outside source has judged a culture (say, Christianity for example), the people of that culture have not.listened. and im gonna defend my point, you dont have to reply, but you do. Im not engaging you in this, you are perfectly able to not reply. If you do reply, stop bitching about how you dont like replying. Seriously, its that simple. Fuck.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 10:29 PM
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My point is that the memes solution will be ineffective, at the moment. Currently, people in that culture will not reason. So give them a reason to listen. I havent said people arent willing to change, ive only said getting them to listen will be difficult. Its not nonsense, what you think im saying is, but im not saying that. And you keep replying when you dont want the conversation. If you dont reply, the conversation ends. If you continue attempting to twist my words and have a debate, i will…
/r/MensRights16/01/16 06:01 PM
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Great, people were given a reason to listen and then change. In this case, they will not listen, unless given a reason to. You criticizing their culture will not cause them to change it.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 05:57 PM
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No, ive said that nobody will listen unless given a reason to. The change is needee, but its not easy. Stop twisting my argument. Im gonna block you now, because im not gonna listen to your bullcrap whining. Seriously, dont reply if you dont want a discussion, its that simple. If you do, thats fine, but dont get mad at someone for defending their points. You waste your own time.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 05:36 PM
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And you replied again, being pissed is.fine, but dont claim im wasting your time, as im entitled to defend my point. If you dont want a discussion, you dont have to reply. If you dont understand that then you are indeed an idiot.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 05:34 PM
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Huh, so you are just in it for the last word, either that or youre just an idiot. If you dont like the convo, dont reply, its really that simple. Until that time or if i am proven wrong, i will reply. Im allowed to defend my argument. Ive not tied you up into anything, you dont have to reply. But you do, either you are an idiot or you just want the last word in an argument. And no, that is something different entirely. Prison rape is a bad thing, i dont think people who commit crimes are asking …
/r/MensRights16/01/16 05:14 PM
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Then why reply? Unless your in it for the last word, if you have no interest in a discussion, the only logical thing to do is to not have the.discussion, unless you have no logic, your only reasons for having continued this conversation this far were for your ego, actual interest in the discussion, or just from anger purposes. If your time is too valuable for a discussion, then i hate to break it to you but subreddits such as /r/mensrights or /r/feminism just arent for you. Have a nice day.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 03:47 AM
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Why? You keep putting words in my mouth and trying to discredit my argument. im allowed to defend myself. If this is bothering your precious time so much, dont reply (its actually that simple). So unless youre just in it to have the last words, that is your only logical move in this case if you are really irritated by the discussion.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 03:38 AM
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Great, some people have, but most people were speaking about how silly the "Dont teach women how to not get raped, teach boys not to rape" campaign is, as many interpreted the picture as that rather than what it actually is. I respect that you were trying to point out the flaw in what they are saying, at first i was just trying to make their intentions clear. And no, my argument is that nobody will listen, YET. as for the time being, they dont care and therefore will not listen. any small form o…
/r/MensRights16/01/16 03:36 AM
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I never said that telling women to stay indoors was good, i actually said the opposite this entire time. If you misinterpret my argument that badly then i must say you are dense. And how to empower them, i know not. Any form will do, but trying to achieve something on as large of a scale as the current proposition will just be ineffective. Any small empowerment at first will do, it can be a woman doing something in that culture or anything, but nobody will listen unless given a reason to listen.…
/r/MensRights16/01/16 03:22 AM
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When did i say that? Seriously, never once have i said anything of the sort. My only argument here is that in their cultures current state, nobody will listen. If youre gonna completely throw what i say out the door and just act as if i said something else, then i have to call you an idiot in the most respectable way possible. And yes the empowerment will also be tricky, but not nearly as much as a mass change in their culture.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 03:17 AM
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Rude. my points are valid, if you think theyll listen before any first empowerment, then i have to ask how you got your head so far up.your ass.
/r/MensRights15/01/16 04:55 PM
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Thanks for your insults, it really shows your intellectual ability. "Time waster", wicked diss bro. But in all seriousness, my points are valid, it wont work, nobody will listen.
/r/MensRights15/01/16 04:53 PM
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I think a differing viewpoint is good, but it depends on the level. Im on mobile so i cant open it as my phone is a toaster, but as long as its not total spewing bullcrap from all 3 holes, id write the letter (formally, anger is no reason not to be polite) asking about your concerns, if it is truly bad, stop reading.
/r/MensRights14/01/16 03:02 AM
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Yes they can, but its more achievable if you have any form of empowerment come before it, more people will listen. Im not saying "no, people cant change, your idea sucks", im saying that, if the problem were attacked indirectly through any smaller form of empowerment, rapes will still happen, but less. And then the whole "tell them rape isnt ok" thing is not only more realistic as more people will listen, but it will also have more support from men and women in that culture. Change is hard, espe…
/r/MensRights14/01/16 02:52 AM
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Exactly, that is why its a tough situation, chicken and egg, which comes first. The answer in this situation, empowerment in any form at all, will decrease the number of rapes. But if you think that a mass change in culture can happen that easy in one move, then you are dead wrong. Basically, any form of empowerment will help this issue, solving this issue is impossible without it. Its way easier to indirectly solve this issue through many smaller form of empowerment, its way more realistic. You…
/r/MensRights14/01/16 02:47 AM
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Yes, but that cant happen without first empowerment.
/r/MensRights13/01/16 07:59 PM
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Yes, but a massive change like that is not possible without first empowerment, its kind of a chicken and egg situation, they are asking for the egg, im saying they need the chicken first, yes, the egg is (sort of) a chicken, but you cant have that chicken without a different chicken first.
/r/MensRights13/01/16 07:59 PM
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I think you think im saying something that im not. Before any talk of anything, empowerment of women must take place, any other attempt to do anything will be considered white noise to someone raised in that culture.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 04:53 PM
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Yes, but changing that attitude is impossible without women being more respected in that culture. Anything before that will be white noise to many in that culture. So i go back to my thesis, their solution will be ineffective, without empowerment of women.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 04:48 PM
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I know what it means, youre missing what i am saying. empowerment of women will be more effective, is my point. That would create a larger change in the culture. And one other issue with that solution, if who is gonna do all the "teaching", as any person from our culture wont be listened to, and no men would speak about that from theirs. My point, before we can achieve the ability to change their perspective, more empowerment of women in their culture is necessary. Im not saying "keep women insi…
/r/MensRights12/01/16 04:46 PM
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I think they could, youre missing what im saying. They've been raised to think it is ok. Simply telling them that it is not ok, is not enough. Saying a solution is ineffective is different from saying the problem is impossible to solve.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 12:52 AM
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You are missing my point. Im saying that her solution on the sign, is ineffective. In any context.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 12:50 AM
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The sign says tell your boys not to rape, not create a massive change in the culture. You can see the difference right?
/r/MensRights12/01/16 12:48 AM
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How are you missing so much of what im saying? I said, it is not good to keep women locked away for their safety, that should have already been clear. Im saying that their solution is ineffective, and wont help half as much as you say it will. The west didnt decrease rape through asking a person not to rape, they decreased it by changing the perspective of people. There is a large difference in that, then asking someone not to rape. In short, no, im not saying that at all, in fact, ive said the …
/r/MensRights11/01/16 09:47 PM
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Yes. They think it is ok. It became less common through a shift in how it is perceived. Through empowerment and good treatment of women, not through "hey, dont rape", but through a massive change in the viewpoint of rape. That is how it will end, not through simply asking a person not to rape.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 09:41 PM
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I understand what it is saying, im just pointing out that its called "culture" for a reason. Culture doesnt die just because you ask nicely. Itll die from empowerment.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 09:38 PM
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Im saying that simply asking a person not to rape, will not be as effective as you think. The way to stop it is firstly through equal treatment, or empowerment of women. if you didnt notice, rape became way less common once that was achieved in the west.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 09:04 PM
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In a less extreme sense yes, but we achieved a culture with less rape, not through asking a guy/girl "hey, stop", but through empowerment of women. Nowadays they are using the "hey, stop", and that can work, but in the majority of cases, asking a person to stop will accomplish nothing, as they simply do not care that it is wrong.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 09:01 PM
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Ill rephrase, they called it reckless, the "frat bro" or just a stereotypical "Man". But with all that emphasis on be yourself, only to alienate many boys, it seems like theyre trying to make people change rather than be themselves is my point.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 08:58 PM
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No shit its not a constant, but its accepted to them. And the people who know its wrong, still do it anyways. If asking for somebody were as effective as you say, then the number of rapes in western civ would be 0 in this day and age, as boys are told, that rape is.bad, they are told, not to. But they do it anyways, clearly asking for them to stop wont work in many cases.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 07:17 PM
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No, we arent doing that because it isnt culturally accepted. Dont you think a person who was about to be raped, cannibalized or burnt at the stake, would have asked the other person to stop? Its culturally accepted for them, and history shows people dont abandon culture easily. And for the people who know its wrong and just dont care, the same thing, they were certainly asked to stop, and they didnt.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 07:14 PM
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I dont know, is the issue, so unless i have that knowledge, it could be the equivalent of saying "women arent allowed to earn as much as a man bcuz patriarchy" for all i know. Im not gonna make a judgement without all needed info.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 06:38 PM
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I know what it would do, but they ended up saying "being yourself, but if yourself is a reckless testostoroney male, be something different". And i disagree with that model, women still beat their SOs. People abuse because theyre dicks, end of story in my mind.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 06:36 PM
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They dont care, telling somebody who is christian that the bible has flaws wont change their minds, so do you really think just asking a person who has culturally accepted something, wont change their mind. I know its wrong to tell women to stay inside, but the other option wont work.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 06:33 PM
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Western men and women who rape, and know what they are doing is wrong, simply dont care that its wrong. Moral matters less to them in that case. Telling them it is morally wrong wont mean anything to them.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 06:30 PM
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Just to be clear, you know the wage gap isnt from discrimination right? I read the comment and was wondering if that was what you are referring to
/r/MensRights11/01/16 05:05 AM
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People like this give Christians a bad name. Next time someone asks me why hate atheists i think im gonna have an aneurism. Good Christians arent violent
/r/MensRights11/01/16 04:51 AM
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Depends on hours.worked and other such things. If this already factors that then alright, but im not gonna be a hypocrite when i tell feminists to look at these such things
/r/MensRights11/01/16 04:48 AM
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But wouldnt those cultures be more likely to speak Arabic then english? Is what he is implying
/r/MensRights11/01/16 04:45 AM
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And 1 to mango. The moral of the story, youre never too lonely to eat a mango.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 04:44 AM
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No, theyre just showing how telling someone who believes rape is ok to not rape wont fix the issue. Nobody is saying women should be kept in, both options arent productive. If any commenter actually stated "no, keep them inside, or else its their fault", then i apologize to you, as my defense is to the majority of commenters who are mocking the "tell boys not to rape notion". in short, nobody is saying keep the women inside (to my knowledge), people just believe that telling someone who believes…
/r/MensRights11/01/16 04:42 AM
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I agree that it teaches them the "no respect so i can do what i like to them", but i dont think they could believe that doing so is consent. They know it is rape, and just asking a person who has been socialized into believing such thing is ok, wont do much, but telling women to stay in is also bad, so both options here arent as productive as one might think. its really a tough issue to face when its culturally accepted by some, and us being of a different culture and telling them that their cul…
/r/MensRights11/01/16 04:37 AM
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I know, but nobody is saying keep them in at night, its more because this is a sour spot, with all the posts saying "teach your boys not to rape"
/r/MensRights11/01/16 04:22 AM
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No, if he were saying that, it would be "dont cancel all flights, just ask the Muslims not to blow anything up." There is a distinct difference in saying "be careful" and "stay in the basement for safety"
/r/MensRights11/01/16 04:16 AM
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I dont think they thought the women were asking for it, they knew that what they were doing is wrong, they acted anyways.
/r/MensRights11/01/16 04:14 AM
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