ThePhantomL0Ler Archive

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2	Q4Women: If you had a friend that was an incel, would you have sex with him out of courtesy to make him feel better? He had enough money to live a wonderful live without doing that much at all. So? So just because someone got dealt a great hand, you should just give up and cower? Other people's successes are independent of yours. Same with actors in hollywood. They are already born with good looks and can memorize lines, so they are already on the path to fame and fortune. Right. So just give up and don't ever try! You know... because there is a fixed maximum amount of success in the world, and its already mos…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/16 02:19 PM
5	Q4Women: If you had a friend that was an incel, would you have sex with him out of courtesy to make him feel better? IG models, kim kardashian, actors, movie stars [...] had everything handed them on a silver platter People in the media were born with good looks, yes. But they still had to work hard to plan and execute to get where they are. Notice the beautiful people you see in random coffee shops or the park? They can be just as physically beautiful (if not MORE) than who you see in movies. They didn't make it to Hollywood because it either didn't interest them, or they couldn't execute a plan to get themse…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/16 07:41 PM
11	Q4Women: If you had a friend that was an incel, would you have sex with him out of courtesy to make him feel better? It's all about being kind and gracious and helping people in need. Sex doesn't hurt and doesn't cost you anything, so it should be easier to donate than any of the above mentioned. This hits on the core problem incels have: skewed perspective. They think the world OWES them something. The world OWES them love, sex, appreciation, and affection. And so they stop there. The incels wait. Instead of grabbing the world by the horns and making their own successes like successful people do, they just si…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/10/16 05:04 PM
4	Women who have had more sexual partners prior to marriage will more likely have their first marriage end in divorce/be in a less stable marriage and report a lower quality marriage. A man's sexual history has no effect on his marital happiness. You need to quote a source if you want someone to take this seriously. I can post a screenshot with pretty graphs that "prove" promiscuous women make excellent wives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/15 05:34 PM
9	Women who have had more sexual partners prior to marriage will more likely have their first marriage end in divorce/be in a less stable marriage and report a lower quality marriage. A man's sexual history has no effect on his marital happiness. Scrutinizing sources is indeed valid for determining if statistics are believable. Would you believe statistics that show religion has amazingly positive effects on society if they were published by a religious group?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/15 05:32 PM
1	The Ultimate Shit Test: Feminism and the female mating strategy Is there any ideology which can be justified with OBJECTIVE PROOF? That's a ridiculous standard! First-wave feminism was justified with objective proof: that it was illegal for women to vote. That article didn't affect my view. Conversations I've had in private, online and offline, affected my view. Your bias against feminism still made you assume that they were at fault, even though there is no mention of their fault whatsoever. The opposite; I'm saying that you have to accept anecdotal evidenc…	/r/TheRedPill	31/05/14 11:53 PM
-3	The Ultimate Shit Test: Feminism and the female mating strategy If someone claimed that feminism caused 9/11, I am well within my rights to ask for evidence. If people kept responding that it was so obvious that they need not show evidence, then this is a clear sign that there is no proof, just subjective emotional thinking. I will not cease posing these questions until I get answers, or there is an admission that the problems are imaginary.	/r/TheRedPill	31/05/14 11:04 PM
0	The Ultimate Shit Test: Feminism and the female mating strategy If the evidence that the community has presented hasn't convinced you, then either it's failed at making a good case, or your standards are just too high. Simply asking for specific examples and evidence is definitely not setting too high of a standard. In TRP, we consider personal experience to be good enough. Personal experience has its advantages, but its can't show the entire picture. It is subjective. Its full of biases, and its sample size is extremely low. Objective proof is a rarity on t…	/r/TheRedPill	31/05/14 11:01 PM
-2	The Ultimate Shit Test: Feminism and the female mating strategy Its a 40-page document. I asked a few specific questions. Why are you not able to respond in a few sentences? If the answers were so obvious, you should be able to respond quickly.	/r/TheRedPill	31/05/14 10:50 PM
-2	The Ultimate Shit Test: Feminism and the female mating strategy You said it yourself! The key word here is "claim". That is correct. I did. Are you suggesting that most feminists claim one thing and do another? That's fine... I'd just like to see proof of these actions. Here's an easier way to do it; take a few seconds to search for the data, if there isn't any, then call them out on it! I have done that. Have a look at my comment history from Thursday. Say "I think this is false!", and they'll either have to contradict you with evidence, or agree with you W…	/r/TheRedPill	31/05/14 06:20 PM
-4	The Ultimate Shit Test: Feminism and the female mating strategy Then there must be many records of their actions. Show me them.	/r/TheRedPill	31/05/14 05:36 PM
-2	The Ultimate Shit Test: Feminism and the female mating strategy I can claim that the KKK is an equality group as well. Actions speak louder than words. Yes, but you would be 0.0001% of those who claim to belong to the KKK, which is not close to the majority. I can claim "I am a redpiller from TRP, and we all want to punch women in the face every day". Does that mean I speak for the whole group? (Hint: nope) What sort of evidence would you like? If you're genuinely open-minded about data, you'll find some in the mensrightslinks subreddit Well, the smoking gun…	/r/TheRedPill	31/05/14 05:29 PM
-3	The Ultimate Shit Test: Feminism and the female mating strategy Because I dared to ask questions and demand proof? Are you interested in discussion, or do you want to just hear yourself talk in an echo chamber?	/r/TheRedPill	31/05/14 04:37 PM
-9	The Ultimate Shit Test: Feminism and the female mating strategy Feminism is often ascribed as having purpose due to needing to correct inequality between the sexes. While this certainly may have been the case close to a century ago, it isn't the case today Incorrect. The overwhelming majority of women who use the feminist label still claim it is about equality, and equality alone. Today, anyone with a scrap of intellect and access to factual data can see feminism for the fraud it is. I ask people on this subreddit for factual data, and I'm immediately called…	/r/TheRedPill	31/05/14 02:42 PM
1	"I’m An Anti-Sexist, Liberal Doctoral Student, Wife, And Mother Who Supports The Men’s Rights Movement Over Feminism, Here’s Why…" Interesting read I found They're around. They can be found in downvote oblivion on the 2X subreddit. Notice how crazy man-haters never make it to their front page?	/r/TheRedPill	31/05/14 12:35 AM
1	"I’m An Anti-Sexist, Liberal Doctoral Student, Wife, And Mother Who Supports The Men’s Rights Movement Over Feminism, Here’s Why…" Interesting read I found They're deliberately trying to be deceptive - a manipulative system works better when it's subjects don't believe they're being manipulated Nope. I honestly believe all of it. I am not trying to trick anyone. Do you have an argument on something specific? As is, you've presented no counter-point. They've been out of touch with feminism for a while, and honestly still believe it's like it was in the 80's and early 90's Who is "they"? Feminists? If so, you've stated "Feminism has been out of touch…	/r/TheRedPill	30/05/14 11:26 PM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives This isn't an argument. Make an argument. No. I cannot convince you that the sky is blue. You are incapable of understanding that it is any other color than green. I accept this and will not try to argue it further. This is, by definition, empty pleasure. This states that an "empty pleasure" is something that makes me feel good. I am OK with you inventing new meanings for words. So if you want to call all of my good feelings "empty pleasures", then that's fine. But I think what you're trying to …	/r/TheRedPill	30/05/14 09:39 PM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives This isn't an argument. Correct. You do not seem capable of seeing things from another's perspective. If a person looked at the sky, and were absolutely convinced it was green instead of blue, what could you possibly say to that person to convince them? Nothing. There is no permutation of existing words in the English language that, when uttered, would convince that person the sky is blue. The only move, then, would be to end the conversation about it. I don't hate sexuality. I've had way too mu…	/r/TheRedPill	30/05/14 07:29 PM
1	"I’m An Anti-Sexist, Liberal Doctoral Student, Wife, And Mother Who Supports The Men’s Rights Movement Over Feminism, Here’s Why…" Interesting read I found It takes a lot to motivate people, which is why persuasive literature often exaggerates. I agree. The author doesn't back any of her statements up with references to objective studies; they're only subjective observations with extremely low sample size. This is why her claims hold little weight. Even if men are not actually to the point of being considered obsolete by the average feminist, but are still marginalized in some way, it is a problem. I agree with this statement, though that is a big …	/r/TheRedPill	30/05/14 07:14 PM
-3	"I’m An Anti-Sexist, Liberal Doctoral Student, Wife, And Mother Who Supports The Men’s Rights Movement Over Feminism, Here’s Why…" Interesting read I found What this author gets wrong is the idea that the men's rights movement and feminism are exclusive. They are not. Feminism is focused on achieving equality, not the oppression or domination of men. A very small percentage of women who use the feminist label are interested in oppressing men; they are simply angry for being burned by one. The majority of feminists are simply looking for equal pay for equal work, the same career and promotional opportunities as men, and the freedom to choose their o…	/r/TheRedPill	30/05/14 04:40 PM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives Are you seriously arguing that all morality is subjective? Why is that the case? I'm not typically one to give people Ethics 101 primers, but I find your unique combination of arrogance and stupidity fascinating. You absolutely cannot accept that casual sex can be non-empty, because your hatred of sexuality is dependent upon it. Do you think I'm lying when I say that I, as well as other people, find it to be non-empty? I'm not. If I really found it empty, why would I lie about it to a stranger? …	/r/TheRedPill	30/05/14 02:27 PM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives Your block of URLs only show that there are broken women out there who don't know any better. I already admitted that these types exist. Though again, they still do not compose the majority of women. WTF from wht span of logic did you get this? Ok, then if women had no reason to stay with men, what are you implying? I have done this before, and she broke up with me and then blew my phone up with texts telling me she loved to get back together after 3 days. I didn't listen. You sound like a true …	/r/TheRedPill	30/05/14 01:09 AM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives Tell me then why women have any need for man other than reproduction now? Companionate love, compassionate love, and/or utility. Besides, even if there were no reason, what are you saying? That we should kidnap all women and hold them in underground sex dungeons to rape from time to time? Men do get bored, but when they cheat on their wives, usually they stay together still. Because of preselection, man cheating on the wife give her subconscious validation that she married a high value man. She …	/r/TheRedPill	30/05/14 12:22 AM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives Why isn't casual sex empty? That question can't be answered objectively since it is a subjective term. For me, since I do not experience casual sex as empty, that question is foreign; its like asking a blind person what the color blue is like. Jesus had very little patience for idiots and hypocrites. Incorrect. See Matthew 5:39 and 5:44. That's kind of embarassing... you're getting schooled by an atheist with bible quotes!	/r/TheRedPill	30/05/14 12:16 AM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives empty pleasure is not something worth pursuing and certainly doesn't make a risky activity worthwhile. In that case, don't have casual sex. I said this before: if YOU feel like its empty, don't have it. Other people don't find casual sex to be empty, and it makes them happy. Or, you know... you can judge them because Jesus said so. In this moment, I am euphoric. It'll wear off, sadly. I recommend you stay in the Christian echo chamber for as long as possible to retain the effects. The atheist ar…	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 09:14 PM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives You don't need to cite something that's definitionally true. Exactly. My claim that the definition of "empty" in relation to casual sex being relative is definitely true. Christian, actually. Recent convert. Its never too late to give up. The sooner, the better, since you'll be able to enjoy life without constantly feeling guilty. Christianity is great at developing self-loathers. Again, I used to be one, so I know where that road leads. You'll either be unhappy because of sexual frustration, or…	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 06:53 PM
0	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives you've even admitted that you don't know what you're talking about. Still incorrect. I never commented on any topic I'm not familiar with. I didn't know about one topic, admitted this, and never commented on it again. We can't even have a discussion on the topic because you're ignorant of the pretty well-known instances of feminist advocacy that have directly affected men in a negative way. Then educate me about them. I'll make it easy for you: pick the most egregious policy that has harmed men,…	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 06:40 PM
0	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives Jesus Christ. You're not one of these dime-a-dozen internet moral relativists, are you? Jesus Christ. You're not one of these dime-a-dozen internet moral absolutists, are you? Reading of any kind improves one's reading comprehension. Citation needed. Reading great works of fiction improves one's familiarity with culture. Citation needed. There are plenty of great reasons to read, and even some trashy adult novel is less empty than a one-night stand. Citation needed. And empty pleasure is not suf…	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 06:35 PM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives Some would say this. And some would be wrong. That's your opinion, based on your subjective meaning. Reading of any kind improves one's reading comprehension. Sex improves one's feelings and promotes peace with one's self. Its relaxing. See? I can use that logic too. Why do people have casual sex? Because it comes natural to us. We are hardcoded to desire sex, resources (money), and power. It feels good.	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 06:23 PM
0	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives You've admitted to not knowing a single thing about feminist public policy Incorrect. I've demonstrated knowledge of several areas of feminism. At no point did I admit to "not knowing a single thing about feminist public policy". I did, however, admit to not knowing absolutely all of it. No one knows 100% of any topic. Your statement is false. All my statements still remain standing.	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 06:14 PM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives This is known as a flase equivalency, and you keep doing it. Coincidentally, you do not quote even a single instance of it, despite your claim that I repeatedly did it. For lack of evidence, this claim is dismissed. Accusing me of being emotional is an easy way to dismiss my arguments. To my knowledge, I addressed ALL of your arguments. If not, please point them out and I will address them now.	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 06:10 PM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives You brought up the use of "aggression" in capitalistic markets. My responses to this were all valid. And they remain un-addressed. I'm starting to think that the reason you're not giving me any concrete examples is because you don't have any. That list of traits you claim are supposedly under attack is entirely imagined. No such attacks are being carried out.	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 06:07 PM
0	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives That is not a logical conclusion to my statements. I understand, though, that you'd like think of me as an unintelligent person, since that would make it easier to dismiss my arguments in your mind (which will remain for quite awhile nevertheless). Here's a tip for the future (as I said before): when you get emotional in an argument, you show your cards to you opponent. You're telling them they're winning. It also shows that you exhausted all possible statements, so your last resort is to use in…	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 05:55 PM
0	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives I fully stand by all my logic. They remain sound statements, despite your counterpoints.	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 05:48 PM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives Nope, I'm still not trolling. If you think I missed something, feel free to point it out, and I will respond. That's what I've been doing this whole time. Vaguely claiming that I missed something without quoting it when you can easily do so implies that there isn't anything there. "Hey, I know a secret about you, but I'm not telling!!" I'll let you go if you're done here, though.	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 05:44 PM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives On the contrary, it's quite objective. Is an agent pursuing some pleasurable action for the pleasure alone? This is empty. Is an agent pursuing some pleasurable action for reasons other than pleasure? This is not empty. That's your definition, which is fine. Again, some would say that if an activity was pleasurable, it had meaning, and is good. Besides, even under your own definition, reading fiction books would be empty. Do you consider that wrong? How about getting a massage? Is that also wron…	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 05:42 PM
0	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives I did with part two of my response, which apparently you don't understand. You're right. I don't. I'll continue on, though, since it was a rhetorical question. If someone on TRP claimed that it is OK to punch women at will, for no reason, many people here (I hope) would rush to say that this is not the majority opinion. Hence, you would (rightfully) take the same position as one who claims NAFALT. This shows that a NAFALT-like claim is not inherently flawed. Hence, pointing out that I mounted a …	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 05:35 PM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives By "empty pleasure" I simply mean pleasure for its own sake. I know what you mean, but "empty" is a subjective term here. Each person determines that meaning for themselves. If you personally find casual sex to be empty, that's perfectly fine. There is nothing wrong with you. casual sex carries with it a number of pretty major potential short-term and long-term consequences. So does anything worth doing in life that is rewarding.	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 05:28 PM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives Do you even read what I write before you start spewing this crap Yes, I am reading all of it carefully. From the very first post I made in this thread I said blaming feminists is understating the problem. Feminist ideals are now synonymous with western ideals to the detriment of society. This doesn't address the question I posed to you: how and where are children (or anyone) told to not be aggressive in capitalist markets? For example, is there some systematic crusade to stop people from bidding…	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 05:26 PM
0	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives Source? Answer the question, if even only hypothetically. Uh-huh. Comparing the ramblings of some dude on the internet to the quoted words of respected feminist authors. How's dat false equivalency treating you? I don't know what this means. I didn't quote anyone.	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 05:07 PM
0	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives Some guys in here think its OK to punch women when they feel like it. Do you support this, or would you claim that most of TRP rejects unnecessary violence? Same thing with feminism. There are some women quite angry at men because they recently got burned. They say and do some crazy things and use the banner of "feminism." They don't represent the whole.	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 04:57 PM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives If you don't teach your offspring to be aggressive they will sink to the bottom of this rat race. Ok, well you finally gave a concrete example that I can respond to: how and where are children (or anyone) told to not be aggressive in capitalist markets? What universities have closed down their business/marketing/finance classes in response to feminist objections? As far as I can tell, this is an imaginary threat. I'm open to hearing specific evidence, though. Competitiveness is constantly demoni…	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 04:54 PM
0	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives You've proposed no counter-argument, nor have you sought to change anyone's mind with this comment. You're not obligated to educate me. If you care not, simply don't reply. Let someone else. Its that easy.	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 04:46 PM
-1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives If you don't know what you're talking about in regards to how feminist advocacy affects men Please show me a person who knows 100% of any one topic. You've been reported for trolling. I'm meaningfully contributing to a conversation. Just because you don't like my perspective, doesn't mean its trolling content. Also, if you were to get me banned, along with anyone else who disagrees, you'd all be stuck in an echo chamber, with no outside voices tempering the discussions. Could you imagine what fe…	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 04:44 PM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives You are correct. However, a more accurate summary would be TOMOFALT: The Overwhelming Majority Of Feminists Aren't Like That.	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 04:35 PM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives Traits (not pass times and interests) as in aggression, competitiveness, dominance, stoicism, etc. So you think aggression is valid for civilized societies? Are we talking about physical aggression? Do you lament how its considered wrong to assault another person, male or female? Do you wish it were legal to punch women at will? How is competitiveness demonized? Not one professional sports team has been shut down as a result of feminism. You can walk into any public park, and start a competitive…	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 04:19 PM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives You don't appear to know very much at all about the public policy changes that have come about as a result of feminism Then educate me! I'm listening.	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 04:10 PM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives People's perspectives are subjective. You can find people with a variety of conflicting perceptions. If you want the truth, though, you need to objectively collect it in the form of a well-structured, peer-reviewed study.	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 04:08 PM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives He never claimed all things that felt good were bad for you. When I assumed this (and stated it as such), he never denied it, hence it was affirmed. My logic remains sound. you are not a smart person. For what definition of smart? I am indeed an artistic idiot, but in other areas I'm pretty solid. Btw, as I've pointed out before, insulting someone NEVER changes their opinion on anything; it only shows that you're emotionally engaged due to loss of confidence (which is a beta characteristic). You…	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 02:32 PM
-3	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives Its not trolling. The guys in here are really worked up about the 0.01% of women who use the feminist label to include oppression of men. Yes, those women are very vocal and visible, but they are by no means a significant percentage. Unfortunately, the guys in here lack this perspective, and are wasting their time fighting an imaginary threat.	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 02:24 PM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives i work under a female site supervisor and although she in only 2 years older than me, me and my buddies never once belittled her. Ok, but notice that you are one person at one workplace. You can easily find a situation where women aren't harassed or dismissed, but that says nothing about the larger picture. On the whole, women ARE still treated unfairly. most [women] prefer to work in an air-conditioned office and go home after office hours without having to do the dreaded overtime. so they are …	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 02:19 PM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives Your summary is incorrect. Here's an accurate account: He began with "There is simply no good reason to have casual sex [...]" To this I stated that the fact that sex feels good is a reason to have casual sex. ("Here's one: IT FEELS GOOD.") He responded with "herion and meth feel good", which is open-ended. I replied with "So does building a successful business from scratch, completing a marathon, and finishing a home renovation project. What's your point? That all things that feel good must be …	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 01:15 PM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives You failed both times to respond to what either me or Frontierpsychologist said Ok, so lets start from the top. Just to be clear, I'd like you to make an assertion, and we'll go from there. You come off like someone who thinks desperately clinging to frame will keep him from looking like a retard. I don't understand. What does "clinging to frame" mean? Also, as I pointed out before, insulting someone never convinces anyone of anything. You can call me any name you can conceive of, but none will …	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 12:47 PM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives this is the second time you didn't respond to the argument either of them made. You need to re-read the thread. I did answer the argument already. He changed his argument after I pointed out that it is illogical. I showed that his revised argument was moot, and no one has responded to that. You tone policed. I suppose you could say that. But that's not all I did. I also responded to the original point (which you seem to have glossed over). I get the feeling that you don't understand the point I …	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 12:41 PM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives I'm being respectful, responding logically, and I'm teaching people about themselves. Winning an argument this way does not make anyone a tool. But I do understand you'd like to think of me as one. I suppose that makes it easier to dismiss my sound arguments in your mind.	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 12:18 PM
-1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives First of all, what's with all the cursing? That implies your emotions are engaged. Alpha males don't get flustered by mere discussion. Their confidence runs deep. Beta males, though, become insecure when their ideas are challenged. Pay attention: I just taught you a valuable lesson. but they still need to fight for these rights. No, they don't. They still have the right to vote, own property, etc. But they are indeed discouraged from certain fields. You never answered my question before: would y…	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 12:16 PM
-2	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives yeah unfortunately, judging by the downvotes, no one agrees with your "wisdom." I don't consider that a failure on my part. I joined this conversation knowing full well that there are people here who react emotionally. And actually, looking at my current scores, the fact that I'm not at -20, implies its a smashing success! Some people are, in fact, thinking logically... lol "legitimately" cringeworthy. I already told you that insulting someone NEVER convinces them of anything. I need you to pay …	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 12:01 PM
0	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives I'm getting downvoted because people react emotionally, and their egos get in the way of logical thinking. That's why people downvote silently instead of chiming in with an argument. They simply don't have any counter-points. Your response: YOU SUCK AT DEBATING YOUR EMOTIONS ARE ALL CRAZY GET AHOLD OF YOUR INNER GAME Thanks for the summary of my response (why did you use caps though?). I was pretty sure I wasn't going to forget it, but I appreciate the reminder. Now, do you have anything useful …	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 11:56 AM
-5	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives Wow. Now this is a real gem. You know how most people write "lol" just to insult someone, but most of the time they didn't actually laugh out loud? Well I actually DID laugh out loud. That is one batshit crazy comment. Mainstream feminism is about equality and fair choice. If some women want to play housewife, then so be it. If some want to get an education and become an engineer, then so be it. Don't you want the same freedom to choose your own destiny? I suppose its not obvious that women migh…	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 11:51 AM
-8	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives Male traits are demonized Oh really? Which ones? Few people are trying to get men to stop watching/playing sports, build successful businesses, or pursue casual sex/meaningful relationships. women are told to empower themselves Why is this a problem? Wouldn't you want the same thing, if society impressed upon you that you NEED to be a stay at home dad, instead of getting an education and becoming an entrepreneur? the idea of a woman taking pride is raising a family is looked at with disgust. Non…	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 11:36 AM
-2	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives trying to ride me for "being engaged" would've gone better for you if you hadn't written a 3-page comment after it. I'm teaching you something. I'm teaching you EXACTLY what you came to this subreddit for: to learn how to progress towards an alpha state. Unfortunately, your ego is too big to let you admit when you're wrong. That would be the first step to learning from this experience. lol I genuinely don't a shit what you believe. Believe gravity doesn't exist for all I care. You're not special…	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 11:24 AM
-2	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives lol my fuckin obvious point was that just because something feels good doesn't mean it is good for you. Firstly, what's with the cursing? Sounds like you've become emotionally engaged. Why are you so angry? Alpha males are cool, collected, and confident. Beta males get worked up over mere discussions. Anyway... thanks for pointing out that things that feel good aren't always good for you. I'm still waiting to hear you say something in relation to my point that makes sense. I said that sex feels …	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 11:02 AM
-2	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives Ok, well... before the 19th Amendment was passed in the US in 1920, women could not vote nor hold office. Property ownership, and the ability to have a job... probably came about in the last 200 years or so. As far as starting a career goes, women are still discouraged from entering some fields. They're harassed and/or not taken seriously in engineering/technology fields. Would you trust a female mechanic to fix your car? Would your friends? You did say "recent example". I get the feeling you're…	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 10:44 AM
0	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives If a woman wishes to wed into a traditional marriage, where the husband is the breadwinner and head of the household while the wife focuses on homecare and child rearing, you would support her decision? If so, I applaud you for deviating from third wave norm. YES! This is exactly what mainstream feminism is about: equality and choice. If some women want to play 1950's housewife, then so be it! Likewise, if some men want to be stay at home dads, that's fine too. A few vocal people who use the fem…	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 10:31 AM
0	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives heroin and meth feel good. So does building a successful business from scratch, completing a marathon, and finishing a home renovation project. What's your point? That all things that feel good must be bad like heroin and meth? You're not arguing any point clearly here. one big reason "conservatives" and others of a similar mind don't encourage casual hookups is because sex (even safe sex) produces kids The best part about conservative groups is that on the outside they all talk about how evil s…	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 10:22 AM
0	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives You're not going to fool anyone with that line anymore. Would you still think its just a line if over 95% of people who use the feminist label assert this? You need to stop focusing on the crazy minority of the group; they don't speak for the whole. Lining up all men against the wall and blaming them for creating the "culture" that gives rise to rape and violence against women is absolutely about putting men, across the board, at a disadvantage. Those are the angry women who have been burned rec…	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 10:14 AM
2	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives I honestly don't understand what you're saying.	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 09:16 AM
1	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives It's important to be aware of this sort of rhetoric, because in practice it's horseshit: third wave feminism absolutely demonizes traditional gender roles and sexual restraint. No it doesn't. You had it right when you said "contemporary feminism doesn't encourage promiscuity; it simply respects promiscuity". There is simply no good reason to have casual sex, whether you're a man or a woman No good reason??? Are you serious? Here's one: IT FEELS GOOD. That is, unless you've been raised in a conse…	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 04:07 AM
-8	Feminism is Destroying Marriages and Why American Women Make Shitty Wives The best part about angry posts like these is that its so obvious (except to OP) that he recently got burned by a woman and is emotionally out of control. Is raging insecurity a trait of an alpha male, or a beta male? Dude... you need to take a step back and get a grip. The only way you're going to succeed in the future is by regaining control of yourself, otherwise your insecurities will leak out in all interactions. American women are taught by feminism to explore their sexuality during their …	/r/TheRedPill	29/05/14 03:53 AM
1	Relinquishing your anger. Sounds like you should start a redneck redpill site where you can fantasize about how 9/11 was an inside job, Arabs are taking over the country, and women need to be punched in the face from time to time so they remember who's in charge. (Honest question: did reading that just give you a raging boner?) Stop embarrassing yourself. Do yourself a favor and don't post for the next 24 hours. You need to re-group and start thinking with your head instead of your emotions if you've got any hope of brea…	/r/TheRedPill	28/05/14 09:48 PM
2	Relinquishing your anger. You're right, man. I'm not alpha. I've always been a huge talker, I never think for myself, and I'm a FOLLOWER, man! It seems like your ego is too big to handle the possibility that you're wrong. That's too bad, because this is supposed to be a place of learning. But its not too late for you to adjust your attitude and get a grip on yourself. It's definitely disappointing to see SRS/cultural Marxist/feminism/homosexual propaganda on TRP. Are you implying that you'd like TRP to be the equivalent …	/r/TheRedPill	28/05/14 09:02 PM
6	Relinquishing your anger. Stop babbling.	/r/TheRedPill	28/05/14 01:17 AM
10	Relinquishing your anger. Your incorrect opinion lacks supporting evidence. And as such, it convinces nobody. Said Christopher Hitchens: "That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence."	/r/TheRedPill	28/05/14 12:16 AM
15	Relinquishing your anger. Are you really that insecure with yourself that you're afraid of women who vote, make decisions for themselves, and can command their own destiny? A real alpha wouldn't see that as a threat. And I have yet to hear any argument with backing evidence from you. You're just panicking and pointing at me yelling "LEFTIST BLUEPILLER!!!" That's convinced precisely nobody. A real man listens more than he talks. He thinks for himself. He doesn't take pre-packaged ideas like "feminism = bluepill = evil" an…	/r/TheRedPill	27/05/14 11:31 PM
14	Relinquishing your anger. So? Do you have a point to make? Or any argument(s)? Even if I was, would that make any of my statements invalid? (Hint: nope) Stephen Hawking is a cripple in a wheelchair... does that make his contributions to physics invalid?	/r/TheRedPill	27/05/14 09:16 PM
13	Relinquishing your anger. Deliberately dressed up in abrasive language to ruffle your decadent feather. Why do you feel the need to get an emotional reaction out of a stranger? This implies a lack of confidence. And since you "properly swallowed the red pill", tell me: what happens to guys who lack confidence? Exactly. Like many who've properly swallowed the red pill, I no longer have many beliefs or convictions. This contradicts your statement of "Fuck equality". Your assertions that equality is bad is a belief, not a "…	/r/TheRedPill	27/05/14 09:06 PM
11	Relinquishing your anger. Wow. You're so angry! Have you taken a step back and thought about why? Being so angry is going to subvert all your attempts at interacting with... well pretty much everybody, not just women. Success starts from within, and if you're not in control of your emotions, you'll just get stuck in a cycle of failure. You need to get a grip. Fuck equality I guess you're one of those antiquated/out-dated types who wish the 19th Amendment wasn't passed in 1920? Question: do you wish women were property an…	/r/TheRedPill	27/05/14 08:52 PM
17	Relinquishing your anger. Most women don’t identify themselves as feminists. And what if they do? There's nothing wrong with mainstream feminism. Its about equality in life, which isn't a threat to men at all. Yes, there are some extremist elements who skew feminism to their own vision. Here's the key point: they're just angry, like the angry guys in here who've been burned by women. There are plenty of scumbag guys around who treat women badly. Some of those victims become bitter and hate on men. They don't represent ma…	/r/TheRedPill	27/05/14 08:22 PM