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My brother in law in med school said he’s not even allowed to take pictures. He tells me the cool shit of how bodies look in healthy vs abused systems and I wish I could see but best I can do is google what he tells me.
/r/MensRights06/03/25 08:46 PM
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There was a 5% risk of long-term pain and complications? I got a vasectomy because I also want a child-free lifestyle, and the lack of reproductive rights for men scared me into not wanting to pay for a child I do not want. I know birth control options exist, but besides condoms & pulling out there's not much for men.
/r/MensRights01/01/23 03:58 AM
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Just like how the liberal socialist were in no position to challenge the Marxist communist when they were rounding up people in the night for the gulags. They may have disagreed, but they disagreed more with some systems and could let other atrocities slide. It's easy to align yourself with feminist for 'equality' but when the feminist are hurting men and women who don't support them with policy 'it's a necessary step towards progress. '
/r/AntiFeminists25/08/22 01:25 AM
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Don't mistake me, I don't worship the ground Peterson walks on. We would actually disagree on many things. He calls people to worship at church and I'm an Athiest that won't waste my time in congregation, I prefer to meditate alone. Peterson fears the gulags, I think we should bring them back with some adjustments. There's a difference between narcissistic tendencies and full blown NPD, same with machiavellianism. They're more of a spectrum, I'm actually not a deceitful person I rather enjoy hur…
/r/MensRights22/08/22 03:24 PM
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Interesting word choice, but you're probably right. Dr. Peterson is a substantially positive figure in my view. However I'm not as kind hearted or as good of a person as he is. I would trust his positive message over my hearts true intentions as I have strong machiavellian and narcissistic tendencies.
/r/MensRights22/08/22 03:13 AM
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I'm saying a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and again. I don't agree with half of what Andrew Tate says. I would even agree that he's definitely a toxic individual. However I don't agree with this cancel culture bs, just because I don't like somebody doesn't mean they should be de-platformed and silenced. I do agree with some of his red-pill talking points. Common sense stuff. An example was a guy asked "how do you get a 6 pack fast and easy? " Tate responded "why does it gotta be easy? Ho…
/r/AntiFeminists21/08/22 02:30 PM
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You know Martin Luther King Jr. Said a lot of great things, but he abused his wife, and was an adulterer so we should discount everything he said and cancel him immediately. Let's undo everything MLK Jr has done!
/r/AntiFeminists21/08/22 07:13 AM
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Glimpsing your profile it's actually very sad and pathetic you used an alt account to back yourself up. That's the most beta thing I've ever seen. You comment exactly the same and lurk the same subs and have only negative karma. I pity you for your existence is miserable, good luck. I hope you find meaningful fulfillment out there cause I'm done with you.
/r/MensRights21/08/22 07:00 AM
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I edited the quote, thank you.
/r/MensRights21/08/22 05:28 AM
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I speak openly about my experiences but don't mistake me I am not suffering for my past. I don't bare any resentment towards my parents, I understand where their abuse came from, the demons that plagued my parents run back several generations. Life is suffering, what I've endured has made me stronger and harder. But I'm grateful for the experiences I've had because I know what it takes to be a monster.
/r/MensRights21/08/22 05:27 AM
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Says the beta attitude, money doesn't make the alpha looks like you missed the lesson. But that's alright fools are easily separated from their cash.
/r/MensRights21/08/22 05:18 AM
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I mean... it kinda already looks that way, people are amazingly ignorant.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 08:30 PM
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The argument from there is too much strain means somethings got to give. I'm not sure what the cultural revolution will look like, but that's why I'm here I guess.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 08:29 PM
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https://qz.com/1218680/the-science-of-sex-differences-is-nothing-for-feminists-to-be-afraid-of/#:~:text=Men%20can%20vary%20much%20more,could%20take%20offspring%20for%20granted. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/through-history-more-women-have-reproduced-men-180952840/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20282735 Here's 3 separate articles because you are too lazy to do any leg work for your own curiosity.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 08:18 PM
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I don't think it's that simple, because regression to the mean will inevitably take hold. Most people are average after all. But the market will grow increasingly selective, especially with cultural polygamy gaining momentum in the west, it's a dangerous game for sure.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 08:16 PM
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If you had any sense you'd know cloning is a short term strategy that actually makes weaker immune systems and worst outcomes. There isn't any data yet cause your weeb fantasies are just bordering reality. But it doesn't take an architect to know a house on its head is unstable and will inevitably fall. I can see a valid reason women wouldn't select you, intellect and lack of work ethic are pretty telling.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 08:14 PM
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I think sex robots will take weaker men out of the gene pool. An interesting fact is that we have twice as many female ancestors than we do male. So women are the selectors of reproduction and on average its fewer men than have greater numbers of children. In some ways these robots may help separate the wheat from the chaff. But in a more humane manner.
/r/MensRights20/08/22 06:15 PM
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Hypergamy is a b* for sure, but some women care about status more than others. Status = confidence = competence. You could be rich but if you're risky, impulsive and unintelligent you're not likely to stay rich. Hence why power and competence are more important than wealth also why women like men who score low in Agreeableness, high in Conscientiousness, and low in Neuroticism also the most favored traits in western society for successful men. If you're interested look into the statistics for wo…
/r/MensRights20/08/22 06:00 PM
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It kind of goes into my statement that 'few men have cojones to compete for those jobs' it's the same for women. Women aren't beating men out in the top earning positions, mostly because they don't pick fields that are scalable like STEM. But for average earners they are heading up HR departments, Nursing, Doctors, Psychologist people oriented fields and they are dominating middle class. So in some ways I would argue that women are right, men need to step up their game in the average earning dep…
/r/MensRights20/08/22 03:25 PM
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"Only children and dogs are loved unconditionally, men are loved only under the condition that they can provide" - Chris Rock But seriously there are other reasons to strive for money and success. We are just animals and you can't fault human beings for their nature. Men want a fertile (hips to waist ratio) and beautiful (symmetrical, healthy) woman. Women want a man who isn't just rich but is competent and driven enough to become rich. The higher you climb the dominance hierarchy the better you…
/r/MensRights20/08/22 03:14 PM
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I got banned for saying women's rights and spaces should be exclusively safe to biological women, and we should think of the consequences of stealing opportunities from young ambitious biological women.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 01:46 AM
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I'm a red piller myself and PPD is definitely a blue pill / feminist circle jerk. It's the sub that almost turns me off from reddit entirely. Trollxchromosomes, femaledatingstrategy aren't pretending to open to middle debate.
/r/AntiFeminists15/05/22 02:35 PM
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dueling banjos intensifies
/r/MensRights12/05/22 03:13 AM
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Welcome to club my dude, I married the best woman and we've been together almost a decade.
/r/MensRights12/05/22 02:50 AM
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I guess my post is super misinterpreted. I'm only trying to convey context is key. Normal people can read whether a person is receptive to having a conversation or being approached, if you can see this then proceed. If the person looks like they're deer in the head lights and obviously looking for an exit or being curt then obviously not interested.
/r/MensRights12/05/22 01:48 AM
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The irony is you don't want an unhealthy woman, but a lot of women will discount you for something as trivial as your outfit or something was in your teeth. But cest la vie am I right? It's all fair to say no.
/r/MensRights12/05/22 01:38 AM
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I don't disagree, but it's all about context my dude. Maybe I'm the wrong guy to ask I've been married for almost a decade so what worked for me may be 'old practice'.
/r/MensRights12/05/22 01:35 AM
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Let genuine connections 'happen' or go to events that have the intention of meeting people. Everything in context. It's rude to approach someone unsolicited at a gym. It's weird to randomly approach a stranger on public transport. It's not so strange to find a speed dating, or singles night event.
/r/MensRights12/05/22 01:11 AM
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I'd like to believe most people are 'good' if not misguided. The internet certainly gives us a skewed lens though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 01:01 AM
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So belief in evolution and it's progressionary changes are irrational? And the consequences of humanities uplifting of one another as the dawn of enlightenment enters this era would be the consequence of tandem evolution and culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 06:11 PM
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Once again, we agree to disagree. Because you cannot see something doesn't mean it isn't there. I cannot see Mycobacterium tuberculosis Bacteria, but if I lick an inoculated culture I'll certainly feel the consequences. We've been raising our IQ as a society tremendously the last 100 years, education and literacy is more on the rise than it's ever been.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:31 PM
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Why is it that it's everyone else's responsibility to help pay for your child? Why does it need to be free? Never before in history was it ever free. If you don't want to pay for your child than why are the rest of us expected to flip the bill?
/r/AntiFeminists07/05/22 05:23 PM
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So you'd argue that our evolution has ceased? And our diversity and exchanges and rearranging of DNA leading to unique codes and individuals is not so? We are as we were exactly 100 years ago? 1000? 10000? How foolish you are, evolution is always present changes don't only happen on a macro level. But examples immediately present that men and women's voices are getting deeper, men and women are getting taller, women's shoe sizes have tripled in the last hundred years. One could argue our brains …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 05:18 PM
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I don't believe we the tax payers should have to pay for other's intellectual pursuits. I'm currently working on my BA and I'm going towards my PhD but I don't expect anyone (outside of my scholarships, grants, & GI bill) to pay for my college. But then again I avoided the humanities like the plague. And I weighed my debt to earning ratio to make sure it's at least half of my projected earning potential. So here's to me breaking into the top 10% after my BA (combined income with my wife.) After …
/r/AntiFeminists06/05/22 01:43 PM
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I wish I could argue that men's rights and opposition to the feminist would take the high road. It's not that it would change their minds, as for nothing ever could. But rather for the pedestrian onlooker our movement is made just as discreditable as theirs through acts of provocation. The way to win this war isn't with hate and incitement to action. But with logic and reason. We already have the statistics and facts on our side we needn't reduce ourselves to the pathos for that is where feminis…
/r/AntiFeminists06/05/22 01:25 PM
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I don't disagree with you, marriage by and large is set up to protect women and screw men. Hence the decline of marriage rates, men are waking up. We need equality, equal representation in divorce, child custody, domestic abuse, and alimony.
/r/MensRights06/05/22 01:17 PM
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They pay their youth and potential. Like I said, we can still keep on rolling and find a new girl younger better etc... So they gotta cut the man off at the knees and make sure he's so fucking broken only trash would look at him.
/r/MensRights06/05/22 04:41 AM
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The only thing I can imagine is that she's considered 'leftovers' and less likely to remarry. The man is still attractive from a providing stability standpoint, so they gotta make sure they bring him down as well.
/r/MensRights06/05/22 04:29 AM
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I'm not disagreeing, but it did seem like a provocation rather than a genuine debate. Even the part about Amber Heard when you referred to them as 'hens.' Again I don't disagree, but from people who are highly emotionally charged this was an obvious conclusion.
/r/AntiFeminists05/05/22 03:01 PM
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Ahh the patriarchy, as if society wasn't organized hierarchically and a large portion of population were slaves to work in agriculture. Freedom and rights for both men and women is a fairly new concept, but let's keep up this oppression/victim mindset I bet that's doing a lot of good for people.
/r/AntiFeminists05/05/22 12:50 PM
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I agree with your points well done. I'd like to expand on this however and say that cutting down the welfare system and replacing it with a negative income tax.
/r/MensRights04/05/22 12:08 PM
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1984* George Orwell I'm currently a little more than half way through and mildly upset this wasn't required reading in high-school. But I suspect the government education facilities little more than indoctrination units teaching the youth 'what to think.' Rather than 'how to think.' Either way it is an extraordinary book, and it's something that I can admire that though I'm not a socialist myself, and Orwell was. He still warned about the corruptible nature of centralized power. Willing to take …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 03:18 PM
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Manly men stand up for what they believe in, spine erect, speaking the truth, and though capable of doing harm show restraint. It is not machismo culture of fast cars, low moral standards, bigotry, and hatred.
/r/MensRights26/04/22 12:39 PM
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I tried to enlist right after high school but they had to many applicants and basically told me it wasn't likely I'd get in. Fast forward 10 years later and I'm getting my degree in nursing and going in the officer route. The government is still one of the best employers in the US with a great pension and benefits plan. I think you're heart is in the right place though, I hear people cry about the patriarchy but you no what they say. There are no feminist in times of war, sinking ships, or burni…
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 11:52 AM
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Instead of pushing the draft to include women, let's just get rid of the draft altogether. The military thrives better on willing volunteers and people who want to be there. Women and men forced into a situation they don't want to be brings down our strength as a whole.
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 04:09 AM
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Yeah I understand it's different across the world, my experience is only in the US. Currently we're facing a new problem where too many of our men are morbidly obese to qualify for enlistment. I'm sure if times were dire and we were desperate they would take anybody, but it's almost getting to the point where we are getting to fat and sick to defend ourselves.
/r/MensRights18/04/22 11:13 PM
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I believe that's the cut off for registration in the US but if they need you they will pull you up to the age of 35. I'm finishing college for a nursing degree and the using that degree to enroll in the Air Force as an officer. The age limit for that is between 18=48 so it's kinda a mixed bag with the military.
/r/MensRights18/04/22 09:31 PM
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I'm from America, so my experiences are culturally American. In the US our draft and enlistment cut off age is below 40. Which in my opinion is relatively young.
/r/MensRights18/04/22 08:00 PM
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Bad people ruin good people. Sounds life she's one of the bad ones, save yourself the heart ache, anyone who displays a victim mentality has no qualms inflicting misery on others. Avoid these people at all cost.
/r/MensRights18/04/22 03:05 PM
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Another factor to consider is the majority of time the rich elites don't actually fight or die in wars they most likely had a hand in starting. That's why they pay young economically challenged men. Or promise them an opportunity of free higher education.
/r/MensRights18/04/22 11:43 AM
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I always think of the Roy Orbison song There Won't Be Many Coming Home. "Maybe 10 out of 20, but there won't be many. Maybe 5 out of 20, but there won't be many. If they all came back but one he was still some mother's son, and there won't be many coming home." Paraphrased But it's guaranteed that not all soldiers come back alive to their families.
/r/MensRights18/04/22 11:39 AM
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100 my good sir.
/r/AntiFeminists12/04/22 01:14 PM
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Justin Bieber was an outlier to start, prince had male fans and had a male crew. Asian boy bands still have boy fans. These men/ boys still ascend the dominance hierarchies. And yes money can play a large part of who your friends with and who supports you. The in industry people can be real cozy to the next big money maker.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 11:06 AM
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Wish this were the sub banner, warning to all ye who enter
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 01:05 AM
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I disagree, civilisation for humans has been good. Even Capitalism has been the single greatest power in lifting people around the globe out of poverty. Compare communist, socialist, or capitalist nations then compare the average quality of life. Even our poor people are doing better than other countries middle.
/r/AntiFeminists12/04/22 12:25 AM
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Technically climate change happens with our without humanity, also if you dig a little deeper you'll find developing nations are rising polluters by burning wood which is worst for the environment than coal. Also we're currently in a revolution of preventing and reversing climate change. Not to long ago scientist were saying we are doomed to reach the 3%+ threshold of catastrophe. Currently with the tech and innovations (largely contributed by men as men make up most of STEM) we are now down to …
/r/AntiFeminists12/04/22 12:22 AM
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I had one try to argue Palestine and Isreal were female dominant societies before the invention of Christianity to subjugate women and move men up to power. I asked her how come no female dominate societies ever last or leave meaningful impacts on the globe and I'm still waiting for a response.
/r/AntiFeminists12/04/22 12:18 AM
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There are always outliers and exceptions. So this doesn't necessarily discount what I've said. Also more musicians and artist share a fan base made of both genders. Plus all the in industry people that helped them gain exposure and financially backed them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 11:46 PM
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You can find an education for anything in college, most of my professors all share the same opinions without any consequences for being wrong and despite not being versed in the subjects they're opinionated in. A good source to tell these wage gap people is the real gap is between mothers and everyone else. (Never married) not single women actually earn more than men in their professions especially in academia.
/r/AntiFeminists11/04/22 09:23 PM
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Women don't pick through men, they let men sort each other out and pick from the top. It's not about 'niceness'. If you see another man and he makes you feel insecure because of his looks, power, status you've already submitted in the dominance hierarchy. There's nothing you can do except better yourself. There's a bear grills island episode of men vs women, and the men immediately knew who was in charge and sorted themselves accordingly and got to work, the women needed constant intervention fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 09:17 PM
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I also just thought of this, I used to think I only ever looked good with long hair. But recently I am digging my fade. It's less daily maintenance even if it means I'm seeing my barber every 3-4 weeks. Everyone around me is very much complimenting my hair and it's new shortness. For description I was a copper haired fabio and now I look like a 1950's military man.
/r/MensRights11/04/22 03:22 PM
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I was a long haired man for most of my life, and recently only cut it all off in preparation for a military life. I can't say that hair isn't an identity it was a big part of my life for a long time. My advice would be don't let your hair hold you back from a good career and good benefits. As the saying goes, 'there are no free lunches.' meaning everything comes at a cost or sacrifice, tri-care, military pension, room & board + GI Bill are pretty hefty in weight in comparison to vanity. In the e…
/r/MensRights11/04/22 03:19 PM
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Your squidward! he's squidward! I'M SQUIDWARD!
/r/MensRights11/04/22 03:15 PM
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Personally I love Jordan Peterson and think he's a treasure. I don't have a father figure in my life so a lot of stuff he says is a stand in role model that I can respect and aim to emulate. Currently I'm listening to his Maps of Meaning book on audible, it's 31hrs long but he narrates it himself and I'm 2 hours in and gripped.
/r/MensRights09/04/22 09:28 PM
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Not sure if OP is real or posing as a Hypothetical. Either way I've seen this before, women who transition to being men believing the 'man's world.' Is easier or more forgiving. Only to find out there are no shoulders to cry on, no one cares if you live or die, and the love anyone has for you is upon the condition that you can provide something to/for them. I've been homeless, abandoned, disowned, ran over and left on the road. Welcome to the world on manhood, now you're the most disposable reso…
/r/MensRights04/04/22 12:51 PM
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I'll take twenty!
/r/MensRights28/03/22 12:53 PM
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Don't wait, bad habits become more reinforced over time. Have a sit down serious talk with him. Tell him in a way that isn't condescending but that implies severity. He needs to be committed to eating healthier, cardio doesn't do a whole lot for weight loss, standing up to his parents and saying 'I appreciate your support but can you support me in a way I need to be supported or just not at all.' And if they continue to be enablers then tell him that he should pass out all the bad stuff at work …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 03:02 PM
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Exactly. It isn't healthy, obesity is an addiction, and addictions shouldn't be glamorized or made normative. A beautiful person can have an addiction, but the addiction knocks some points off their SMV as unwanted baggage for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 07:51 PM
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Needs to supplement even more veggies and less calorie dense foods. Hard to get fat on apples, celery, and zucchini.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 07:44 PM
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True, I guess we can both agree ultimately an unhealthy lifestyle fat or thin ages you faster than doing your best to eat a whole food diet and exercising moderately. Being too fat or too thin is unattractive to most people and slightly under or slightly over isn't the end all be all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 07:42 PM
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I agree with you, it ultimately comes down to good genetics and being healthy. But being fat and genetically symmetrical is better than being fat and ugly. But obviously the gold standard is fit and genetically gifted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 07:34 PM
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Not that he wouldn't, but I don't believe you can be friends of both parties are mutually sexually attracted to each other is my point. A 100% hetero man would risk no sexual attraction to a gay man hence the platonic nature of friendship could develop. Same if a man and a woman were to be friends as long as 1 or both parties have no sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 07:32 PM
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Honestly I like this story, couples should be supportive and challenge one another to be better versions of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 04:17 PM
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Yes you argued my point pretty well. I even included optimal body fat percentage ranges as well. And you the thing about being fat is the hunger suppression doesn't work because they've become insulin resistant and over produce ghrelin. So they're already in excessive hunger mode. And I did argue a skinny person could be unhealthy, my great grandfather died of alcoholism but he certainly wasn't fat. But the other side of my family is seventh day and they are very conscious about their eating. Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 04:14 PM
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I just wouldn't say they're bad people because they're fat, maybe other reasons. But fat people can better themselves if they choose to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:18 PM
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Oh I agree with 100% Women believing sex = relationship is an ongoing theme.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:18 PM
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If that's what is normal and readily available how are you supposed to do differently? I mean, I'd move but someone more attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:16 PM
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I wouldn't say bad, maybe some of them are. But less fortunate in the sexual market for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:13 PM
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One could argue that fat is in part how you take care of yourself. If one is fat, it's likely one is consuming bad foods, that are low in nutritional value. So the body isn't running on its most optimal micro nutrients, let alone a poor balance of macros that got themselves into the obese range to begin with. Studies prove that obese people are less likely to exercise, and exercise is the only proven way to stave off neurological decline that comes with aging. If I had to bet who would look more…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:09 PM
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This. If you're attractive without the fat, you'll probably retain some of that. Despite being better off without the extra pounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:59 PM
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Am attractive woman can be over weight. Just as an unattractive woman can be thin. Naturally women are supposed to carry more body fat than men. Non athletic men between 18%-25% body fat. Non athletic women between 25%-31% body fat. A certain amount of fat is important for women in reproductive biology. However attracting men for sex versus marriage is different. Even moderately unattractive women can get sex regardless of weight. But most people want a relationship and everyone's trying to buy …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:56 PM
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I'm guessing bringing no children to the table, because being child-free is the default state.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:42 PM
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I think the problem is the power of WAP is real, and it's a force to be reckoned with for the majority of men. The resentment for the HVM is WAP doesn't work on him the same way, he has more options than WAP and that upsets women. He can ask for more because to him that's just more of the same. At that point a HVM is looking not only for a beautiful WAP but someone with brains and is interesting to be around. And the HVM doesn't have to wait patiently and be celibate until he finds her. He could…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:39 PM
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It's ignoring that inherently the relationship is different. Can a gay man and a straight man be friends? Yes, no risk of attraction. Could 2 gay men be friends (as long as there wasn't attraction) and we're back at square 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:24 PM
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My this apple is terrible. The flesh is bitter and dry and the whole thing is round and orange.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:21 PM
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Fun fact statistically lesbian marriages fall apart more than any other demographic. And while I did see a lot of evidence that gay men were the largest demographic of cheaters, I've personally known several lesbians that cheated on their partners, and usually with a man. I haven't run into the gay man cheating with a woman though... not saying it doesn't happen. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/lesbian-couples-more-likely-divorced-male-same-sex-marriages-uk-ons-figures-a8006741.h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:19 PM
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Love your username.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:11 PM
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As long as there isn't physical attraction. I guess a more complicated question would be 'could you be in a heterosexual relationship and have a bestfriend that wasn't your partner who was the opposite gender. And both bestie found each other sexually appealing?' My vote is no, friends in a group maybe but not 1 on 1 ripping up the town.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 02:07 PM
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Either your argument is in bad faith or your speaking for the minority as the majority. Most men want to be apart of their children's lives. The ones that don't have a litany of reasons from being a terrible person to avoiding the entrapment of a psychotic woman. For all these modern feminist I'd love to start seeing these 'high earning women' paying child support, alimony, and losing half of everything in divorce. My uncle in law married his high school girlfriend, he had 2 kids with her. She c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:05 PM
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As a young white man, who's average on attractiveness I had little experience in the world and wasn't interesting to women. I had no one, so I drove into my career and became one of the top 10% of American earners. With goals to break through to the 5%. Suddenly women are a lot more attracted to me, the way I dress, the lifestyle I live. They have no qualms even trying to get me to cheat or leave my wife for them. The difference was my wife invested in me when I was near the bottom, and she valu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 02:13 PM
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Sure why not
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 02:04 PM
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That was my intended message, I've given my life to my career. But I couldn't pretend that just because I'm a good provider I'd make a great parent. How could I? I spend 60-70 hours a week working. This puts me at a strong advantage over parents, I can take on more work or travel at a moments notice. So from experience I've seen career oriented women rise above men, if they're determined enough. But I don't see mothers do the same. Just like my father taught me before he was murdered on the way …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 02:03 PM
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Someone once said it's not so much the gender gap as it is the mommy gap. When a parent takes time out of the workforce for child rearing, they inevitably fall behind their peers in promotions and raises. Scandinavian countries have gotten better with mandating both parents rights to be with their children. But regardless hours worked at the office pays money, and hours worked with the children pays futures. But everyone should be allowed to make their choice to either be career driven or family…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 04:03 AM
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I think this is pretty accurate aside from that HVM can get casual sex whenever they want. So sex isn't as influential in there decisions for wife material. For the vast majority of men it does create a lot of problems, but as interconnected as we are there's no going back. There will always be high value, low value abs average people. And people sort themselves accordingly. But I sad thought is that along a lot of these post men add no value to relationship besides monetary. It's sad to see so …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:23 PM
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It seems like either gender is shamed regardless of the choices they make. Having children is selfish, not having children is selfish. Wanting a high value partner is shallow. You get what you put in. If you're making strides to these goals and honest to yourself and those around you, what other people think doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:04 PM
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As a HVM I'll tell you women's promiscuity is a benefit to men and a detriment to women. So as long as your goal is to find a long term relationship with a man of value you are on the right path. A HVM doesn't have to wait for sex, but the prize is a woman who knows what her worth is. HVM want what others can't get. Don't let anyone deter you from your goals,
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 09:27 PM
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R/whitepeopletwitter seemed really convinced that no parents force gender identities on their children.
/r/MensRights23/03/22 12:21 PM
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"I feel for your wife" "My FIL is a lot like that too, he’s pretty much isolated from everyone and borderline abuses his wife, I hope this doesn’t happen to you. Take care" with statements like these I'm supposed to infer what?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 03:07 PM
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You didn't ask for my back story, you were quite content as painting me as an abusive husband. And you did indeed try to attack me character when you were losing your argument in the realm of facts. I said it was immature of you to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 02:58 PM
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I can't speak for the rest of the world but the US has an celebrity idol complex. Everyone wants to be the person on their screens.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 02:26 PM
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I tolerate other opinions, this whole time I've said if you want to exist outside culture norms do so. I'm explaining why cultural norms exist. Why they have meaning to the people that adhere to them. You can't reason with feminist everything is about how you 'feel'. And when you get presented with facts, and statistics you have to Shame, Insult, Guilt, & Need to be right. (SIGN) language. I've called you out for trying to attack my character as immature, it's not sticking to the topic at hand. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 02:22 PM
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Because we're more similar than different, despite the small differences being there. And it was in context to taking about society favoring women, and how by example that it disfavored men. How men's lives are expendable but women are sacred. You don't want to address these issues so you feel the need to attack me personally & by association my wife, classy. Your immaturity is showing again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 02:08 PM
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Sounds like your own team red pill bro. That's the whole philosophy of the movement whether guys take that away or not. Genetics are important, but use what you got to make yourself healthy and fit, build your social circle by getting involved in your community, make money to offer stability to household. You have to take responsibility for your actions and life choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 02:05 PM
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I always found it funny that men are more attracted to super buff body builder types than women are. I guess the female equivalent is the overly done up, butterfly lashes, dramatic make up, extensions, and dragon lady nails.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 02:01 PM
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This is an example of war, and in war nothing is fair. Otherwise we wouldn't have to settle conflict with blood. My point is that men didn't get to pursue what they wanted for thousands of years. Thousands of years ago men were hunters and gatherers (depending on their geographic location) and a relatively less amount time later almost everyone was a farmer. Most of history men have had to fight violent wars, work as slaves or surfs, most people didn't have good lives thousands of years ago. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 01:49 PM
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Wrong again, societies are built by men for women and children, that's why the court systems favor women, that's why a rape accusation is enough to ruin a man, and why women have the luxury to pursue what they want. That's also why in any emergency men are expected to die for women. You never hear "the ship is sinking! Men to life boats we have to leave these women." And of course I'm using samples that fit what I'm explaining. The simple fact that it exist It wouldn't make sense to talk about p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 12:18 PM
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Most of the Nordic nations. Norway, Sweden, Iceland, & Finland.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 12:11 AM
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There are countries with more than 40 years of gender equality ahead of us and the trajectory is in the wrong direction of your hypothesis. I would agree that more time should be afforded to fathers, and that fathers are important to a child's development. But the cold hard truth is women are hypergamous and they won't be satisfied settling for a below average earner. Just like a men won't care if a women earns 6 figures. A woman's value to a HVM is her femininity, agreeableness, fitness, and he…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 08:56 PM
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https://www.yalescientific.org/2020/11/by-the-numbers-women-in-stem-what-do-the-statistics-reveal-about-ongoing-gender-disparities/ The statistics are on my side with this one. Women are far less represented in STEM because it doesn't interest them. There are resources and scholarships and a female empowering narrative trying to push women into STEM. But when given the choice in a more egalitarian society like the Scandinavian societies they choose STEM even less.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 08:47 PM
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Thank you for your sources, and very well put together statement. I would further this by saying this is why when you see women at the top of an industry she typically displays very masculine energy. She had to compete to win, it's not that women aren't capable, but it's so energy intensive that it consumes your whole life. I spend the majority of my life working and trying to out perform my colleagues, not to their detriment. But I'm not going to roll over and let anyone take what I'm striving …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 07:18 PM
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I think even if you broadened the scope of history before the 1800's most Americans lived on less than $1 a day, in today's money. People have taken for granted how hard life used to really be. Even during industrializing a lot of people were killed by unsafe equipment or black soot filled lungs. Today women have the opportunities to pursue high paying degrees but most women I talk to have a degree in social sciences, humanities, arts, criminal justice, business, communications... And the inform…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 06:32 PM
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I'm also not assuming it's a actually well documented by sociology that the more egalitarian a society becomes the more men and women sort themselves. Despite the fact that the social sciences are extremely liberal, so this isn't the results they wanted to find, and it goes contrary to what everyone's been told. Yes women were historically kept out of the workplace, but even still men makeup 50% of the workplace and yet by gender they make up 90% of the fatalities. It's a popular opinion to bemo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 06:26 PM
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With 7% of the US population saying they work their dream job in gonna say it's unlikely. It's like grandpa used to say, it's not supposed to be fun! That's why they call it a J-O-B. I'm saying on average women want to work with people, men want to work with material. And between the 2 material pays better. It's very rare to see a therapist make what a bioengineer makes. And of the engineers I know, most of them think it's a J-O-B. Just one that affords them a lot of money and luxuries.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 05:23 PM
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That was her laid out scenario. But you have the freedom to choose a man that brings something or brings nothing. But there's a price for getting with a man of value and women have been taught that it's degrading to be in service to their husband. So they want their husband to be in service to them. Low and behold when they don't respect him, what a shock.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 05:01 PM
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I'm agreeing with your statement as a high value man, I didn't choose my wife to pad out my investments. I chose her because she is fit, feminine, friendly, and cooperative. I chose her for her for idealized feminine values and beauty. Not because she could earn any amount of money. If anything I don't want her to work so much because what little time I have I want her to be there with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 04:42 PM
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Woman are good at pursuing degrees, but not so much at pursuing husbands. The whole 'it'll happen' and passively dating is a big problem for these women. You're absolutely right I didn't care what my wife earned, cause I expect her to take on other responsibilities since I'm more than double her earning potential. It just makes sense, it helps me and thereby helps her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 04:33 PM
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Your comment is a strong duality. It's boring to date rich men who can provide you the luxury of not working and spending time with your children instilling the values in them to become successful and spending time most average people wish but cannot afford. But the alternative is most women are bread winners? And if a women is making 50%> of the income it's just easier to cut off the other >50%. At least in your hypothetical scenario the kids still see their father. The reality looks like, wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 04:29 PM
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Women can work and provide for themselves up to a point. Most women take degrees in humanities or non STEM fields that cap their earning potential. And having 1.5 million saved for retirement is no easy task. Most women do what makes them happy, not what makes lots of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 04:24 PM
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Even if I were single, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 03:10 PM
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There's a level of trust and love you'll never get with any other kind of relationship. I have friends, a few family members, coworkers. But no one understands the way I see the world quite like my wife. I can be my most vulnerable, stupid, happy, neutral self with her and she'd never leave. There's side of you that your friends and family know, there's a side of you only your best friends know, there's very little your wife doesn't know. Lots of trust comes with responsibilities and risk and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 02:47 PM
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For a women anything immoral. Immoral defined as dishonest, distasteful, lewd, abhorrent. Also nothing that requires full time, work for my wife is a hobby, her career is maintaining our life as my help mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:08 AM
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This. Nearly every useful civilian job has a military counterpart, that pays better, with better benefits for the service member and their whole family.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:01 AM
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Easy there bud, I understand the sentiment but couple of things to take note of that are unique to my situation. 1. I'm infertile and not able to have kids, this is unrelated to my circumcision. 2. My higher purpose in life is to save the lives of other human beings which is more than a full time job. So having children would only get in the way of my benefit to humanity. 3. In what little time I do have I prefer to enjoy peace and luxury whilst traveling and enjoying cultures from around the wo…
/r/MensRights11/03/22 04:18 PM
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A man's 'type' is a woman he looks to being home to his Momma, his sexual proclivity is much broader than that. Extending even as far as women he deems less attractive than himself. Women can get sex anytime they want, so they can choose who, where and when. A man has to accept sexual opportunity, so he may bounce on most women, but dating and considering for marriage is the smallest percentile.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 06:15 AM
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Sure they can, as long as their is not an ounce of sexual attraction attraction on one side or the other, or both. But if you were to hypothetically ask all of your male friends to have free no strings attached sex and your SO would never find out, how many of them would jump at the opportunity? If you're even a moderately attractive woman I'd wager a conservative half, though not for the sanctity of your relationship, but rather if they are married or in relationships and have a strong moral in…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 06:07 AM
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Sexually dominant does not necessarily translate to dominate outside the bedroom. And anecdotally I'd say this doesn't hold water because the men I associate with in the upper levels just go outside the US to find foreign wives that are raised with traditional values. Mostly South American or East Asian. On average men are attracted to feminine women, not women who are trying to be men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:22 PM
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I believe it will cause further divide between men and women. The MGTOW movement is upset that average women don't want average men. If pressure for sexual opportunities are eliminated men will be more at peace without women, for a time. The men at the top of society will continue to accrue harems as they've always done and eventually this will fracture and split the foundational values of society splintering down the socio chain. Playing God with a millennia old structure is going to have dange…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:14 PM
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Alright, you personally that's fine. But do you think your personal ideals and morals are representative of the majority OR the minority of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:04 PM
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SMV = Sexual Market Value Jeff Bezos is going to outperform Channing Tatum in the sexual market because women are hypergamous. Like you said you wouldn't mind if your partner made more than you. Most women don't mind, in fact it's a requirement. The complications arise when you wait to get married and are in your earning prime years men don't value women for their wealth the same way women do to men. Women on average will overlook a man's height, appearance, and attitude if it's backed by an abs…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 08:15 PM
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Women who are fit, feminine, friendly, and cooperative have a higher SMV than young beautiful women at times. Men would date down in looks to find a woman who is high in these values. Also inferring a woman in these values holds her SMV longer. And men in there 40s if they accrue wealth and power are more desirable than men in there 20s. A man in his 20s is boring outside of his looks, he's accomplished very little. A titan of industry is fascinating and keeps you on your toes. I spoke generally…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 03:53 PM
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Yes and the males pleasure is also reduced because of the nerves that are in the foreskin, plus foreskin plays a part in lubrication. Of course all of this is subjective and a foreskin alone doesn't lead women to orgasim. As for the lube just use some ASTRO Glide X and throw a couple of his and her vibrators with some nipple clamps and hand cuffs. Sex is a sport and fitness, determination, and ingenuity always top out.
/r/MensRights06/03/22 02:42 PM
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If I was uncircumcised prior and a woman's 'fetish' was that I go and get cut for her I would agree. In this instance the blame resides with my parents like most people in America. People think it's 'cleaner' but that's like cutting off your butt cheeks to wash your butt hole better. And I don't know if you're in the USA but it's so common here that most women see more circumcised men so they associate that with being normal and uncircumcised as 'weird.' Not everyone thinks along these lines, bu…
/r/MensRights06/03/22 02:38 PM
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I love this! No homo...
/r/MensRights03/03/22 11:36 PM
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I'm satisfied with your conditions of class. You can have a high income and still be low class. Vice versa. And by that definition people choosing to associate with others on their level is absolutely true. Birds of a feather. Also thank you for your kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:36 PM
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I think there's a lot that goes into the marriage decline and it's difficult to say it's because of any singular issue. But I believe the decline also furthers the decline. More children being raised in single parent households furthering it to be more accepted or normative rather. Women are hypergamous by nature and more women earning more degrees paying $50-60K annually they want men that earn the same or more as well as being physically attractive. Men don't typically care what women earn, I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 04:10 PM
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I'm not saying women aren't romantic, or romance as a concept wouldn't work. I'm saying men are the more romantically inclined gender. Obviously the point of using resources as displays of affection to make women swoon is a tale as old as time. Enticing women with confections, adventure, and material things is a man's go to operation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 02:41 PM
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The most common reason for divorce is money problem related. And maybe the ritual is suffering to you because you're not good enough to get results. If you do a kind gesture for your friend did that make your friend the kind person or are you yourself a kind person? Even though it benefits your friend. Your line of thinking is a twisted. We benefit through romance, I don't think you see the outcome good romance = sexual partnership. My claim is men invented romance to persuade women to mate with…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 02:35 PM
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What about someone such as myself who came from the trailer park, my father was murdered and I was raised by a single mother. I've worked hard and earned my way into the 6 figures, how do I fit into the narrative?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 01:51 PM
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Mmm yes, but given the opportunity a lot of these average men want to be monogamous and find love. I've seen so many ladies betting they can get a higher value man and throwing good men back into the sea for trivial stuff. "His ear lobes weren't right." "He's not a bad boy." "He's too good to me." These are actual quotes from a chronically single boss chick who's in the danger zone, despite having the fantasy that she wants 4 kids. I'm not saying men aren't delusional, but all the men in my circ…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 01:15 PM
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Um you literally described my whole point. And yes men do more romancing because we invented romance as a means of competition. A man who isn't as attractive but has more resources has to ability to out gesture other males in displays of affection. We invented/ prefected romance to woo women. And I would say the way I described it means it isn't an extension of romance it's a sexy female power fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 01:06 PM
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Have you ever read a romance novel? The whole trope within the novel isn't 'romance' it's the female conquest over a man. Every romance novel has the same type of archetypal male lead, he's a vampire, pirate, werewolf, billionaire, beast. And a woman comes into his life and tames him with her sexuality, civilizing him through her power sex. The whole game of pursuit and elevated marriage proposals. Why do you think it's expected men pay for dates, men create elaborate gestures for women to decla…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:13 AM
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Disagree, men invented romance, men fall faster and harder for women. Men are the romantic creatures, women like the attention and perks of romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 04:36 AM
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When I was a young grape juice I couldn't afford any style of beer, baggage or otherwise. I came from a single parent poverty level household. Now that I'm a red I see my credit is good at a lot of bars. However I was fortunate that a great little pale ale snagged me while I was just starting to ferment. Since then she's been a huge help in my growth and development. But she's happy as a pale ale she doesn't want to be a wine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 02:24 AM
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The difference is that to become red wine is a deliberate sacrifice. Imagine giving 20 years of your life to your career working 70-80hrs a week and your now a red wine. You want a refreshing beer. A beer with no emotional damage or extra children baggage The disconnect I see on PPD is the men and women value each other similarly with key differences. We're more similar than we are different but we are still undeniably different. Equality is a fallacy, we are biologically hierarchical and men so…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 02:19 AM
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The other analogy on men being like wine that I like, is all men start off as grape juice, but it takes time and character to forge us into something desirable and complex. A person can drink grape juice, it's sweet and refreshing. But it doesn't have the complexity, character, and status that wines do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 02:08 AM
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That's why I said beer wasn't a bad representative of women, you don't have to wait to enjoy a women she's great out the great. But there are some beers that age terribly and some that age better. But the reality is because you enjoy that refreshment earlier you pay the penalty sooner. It's not a criticism or jab it's just business. And you're correct value wise a 2 buck chuck ain't bad. But an average man shouldn't be viewed as bad or undesirable, especially to an average women. The untouchable…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 01:55 AM
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I'm sorry to inform you comrade you're probably a white wine. Edit: I realized I'm in a different argument but it still applies so I'm gonna transfer some of it. Red wine ages better than white wine. And only the top 10% of men are red wine, the top 5% a valuable wine vintaged and certifiably the best quality. The other 5% a nice Cabernet Sauvignon that tastes better with age and last a good while before becoming vinegar.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 01:47 AM
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5%-10% The 5% being like a vintaged port And the other 5% just being Cabernet Sauvignon That leaves 90% whites With 2 buck chuck being the untouchables, and your low class zinfandel. Then your moderate rieslings and finally the best of average the chardonnay. There are even tiers with the classification of wines, but everyone is gonna try to get what they can afford OR they'll drink what they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 01:39 AM
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Once again we're talking about different calibers of men. You're referring to white wines. I'm referring to red wine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 01:31 AM
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My great uncle is a millionaire, he's on wife number 8. He's in his early 80s they're always in their 20s. He always goes for a different ethnicity but yeah he is really cheap. And they don't ever get anything out of him in divorce, great lawyers and pre-nups. Current Brazilian wife who replaced Russian wife looks like she might make it but it's hard to tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 01:29 AM
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I've noticed feminism only values women that further the feminist narrative. Women that want to be house wives aren't worth representing and they aren't capable of making their own choices. I thought feminism was supposed to be all about freedom for women and yet the way you speak of some women as less than certainly says otherwise. My wife is a housewife and the incredulous behavior she puts up with from self proclaimed feminist is horrible. She enjoys gender roles and loves being secure and ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 01:25 AM
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So men aging like wine isn't a bad analogy and here's why. Young wines aren't bad, they're just under development a little sharp and sometimes to strong. Aging wine matures the beverage, calming some of that sharpness and allowing you can appreciate all the subtleties and complexities that were once drowned out. Forever aged to far and it becomes vinegar and though not worthless is certainly past its prime However usually it's red wine that even ages well at all, white wines are better young. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 12:58 AM
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Average people aren't bad people, absolutely true. I was born to a lower middle class family in a backwoods trailer park in a little town called Dixie. My father beat my mother, me and my siblings. He was stern, proud, a hard working. But I grew up in a rough household, after my father was killed my mother because emotionally abusive to us. I left at 18 becoming homeless and working with just 1 sack of laundry that I took with me. I've overcome a lot of adversity and made it to be successful in …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 12:31 AM
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Most of the credible resources you can check men out earn women. Women are taking college degrees in humanities, criminal justice, and psychology. And while female enrollment is higher, there still isn't a lot of women pursuing STEM degrees, despite so many resources and scholarships beggingthem to do so. Women are people oriented and typically those jobs earn less than material oriented. https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/01/women-making-gains-in-stem-occupations-but-still-underreprese…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 12:10 AM
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I think this is a positive message in a mixed message. So on one hand I agree with you that people should believe in themselves and raise there self worth. I disagree that alphas aren't beholden, but that definition the only alphas would be the hermit far removed from society. Even then he answers to mother nature. I know it's against the popular belief 'you shouldn't care what people think.' Well I'm here to tell you that you should care if you want to be an Alpha (in society). Being a part of …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 11:33 PM
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I hope that's working for you personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 11:21 PM
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Not everyone wants a high SMV partner, that's okay it's your choice. I'm critiquing people who do but don't bring anything to the table in return. If a high value man had to delay gratification for success he's going to want the best he can afford to make up for lost time. That means he wants a trophy, a trophy for being in the top 10% of the population, and arguably as an alpha that is his right, he is a value to society, that's why we afford high value men with extra resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 08:27 PM
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This is asinine, you are really blaming men for your problems. You have free will, freedom of choice. You aren't in an arranged marriage. You choose who you give your time to and to degree of control they have over you. High value men don't want overweight women, and they don't want to devalue their wives that's some bullshit. High value men want the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 07:30 PM
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As I'm from America I also hadn't considered the difference between a militia and a military. America is very much pro military and about 7 out of 100 of us is a veteran, roughly 18 million.
/r/MensRights02/03/22 05:20 PM
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154lb to 198lb man + 22lbs Converted to freedom units for us Americans.
/r/MensRights02/03/22 05:16 PM
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And to those delusional men and women life will have a sad ending. But I was very intentional with my words. Just like the majority of men and women are average it can be expected they will live average lives. Here is my anecdote, I was average in terms of looks. I was passed up and over coming from a poverty level single parent household. I've worked my ass off even before I met my wife to make myself more valuable, and I'm climbing even higher still. So now that I'm in a 6 figure bracket I rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 05:10 PM
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Hence I put that little (if he plays his cards right) Because a man's value isn't linked to only his physical attributes. Notice I didn't say it's NOT linked, it's just not the only thing that matters. Wealth and resources matter more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 04:17 PM
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I'd argue the best years to pick the ideal wife is between ages 22-28 But you do need to vet these women and know if they were raised to be a housewife and they have those values instilled in them. Like wise if you're a high value man entering into this relationship don't forget your pre-nup.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 04:09 PM
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So you are speaking broadly for a vocal minority of woman. A lot of high value women are actually taken off the market relatively quickly. They're snatched up and made into wives before they accrue any emotional damage or extra baggage. The ladies left on the carousel proclaiming how much fun they're having are playing a high stakes game. The older they get the less successful and valuable the man they can attract. They can get sex, but commitment in terms of a ring of significant karat and size…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 04:07 PM
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The most high value women are taken off the market relatively young cause this is when there SVM is high and they're going to get the best 'bang for buck' so to speak. A woman in her 40s doesn't have the options a woman in her 20s does. Funnily enough a man in his 40s has more options than a man in his 20s (provided he played his cards right)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:55 PM
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As a man you don't get value in society until you earn it, women get there value upfront. So you gotta play the game, are you content with being average in social status and income? Then you are gonna have to be content with an average or below average women. Men will date down and women date up, you cannot sustainably hold down a value you cannot afford. As for most of history the below average got with below average, average with average, and elite with elite. You can do things as a man to ele…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:49 PM
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Self discipline is sexy, I can go to Blue Star donuts and eat myself into morbid obesity until I'm as attractive as Jaba the Hutt. But the more disciplined I am eating veggies, working out, maintaining my body's health the more attractive I am. A woman who saves herself for a man she's in a committed relationship with is always a better option for a high value man. If your a high value person and you have the pick of the litter, you saved, sacrificed and put off having fun so you could do that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 03:02 PM
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Hear Hear!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 02:34 PM
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Reading your thread you are one of the best ones, happy for you and your husband. May you continue to be a shining example.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 02:34 PM
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Sad truth, but most the men in my family who've died slowly the family forgets that they ever had a singular positive trait at all.
/r/MensRights02/03/22 04:44 AM
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So your correct in your assertion. But wrong that the paradigm is a fallacy. So you noticed it's not the most aggressive male that rises to the top of the hierarchy. I'm sure you've noticed the people at the top of our society aren't the most aggressive either. Some of them are upstanding citizens, what gives? Well just like the chimps it turns out the best way for someone to win is if we can both win. If I win and help others in the processI'm more valuable and competent to society. The whole '…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 04:21 AM
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It's a rhetorical question where I'm asserting it is ludicrous to blame men solely for the divide in the sexual market. I've already agreed in this thread that yes everyone should work on themselves, I'm against fat acceptance and etc for the same reason. Accepting your situation is as good as giving up, don't accept it do better. I'm afraid my message has been lost in the sauce so this message was poorly communicated on my part and I take ownership of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 04:10 AM
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Thank-you friend, be well, and be safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 01:45 AM
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Really women don't see men as paychecks and jocks? You're such a victim princess
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:56 PM
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Really? Women don't use sex as a weapon or a tool to manipulate men? Just because you're barred from the physical discourse doesn't mean as a women you're exempt from manipulation and fuckery.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:55 PM
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My wife loves baking, so 2/3 days week she goes to a high end bakery and works when she wants. She gets to learn and practice and enjoy herself, she earns basically a tip to contribute but for her it's more getting out of the house and doing what she loves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 11:18 PM
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I'm pretty secure, I'm actually looking into the next 5 years doubling my salary I just need my PhD.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:42 PM
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In a round about way, you - lovingly - uphold your relationship social contract. Very much the same way my wife and I do. Just our terms are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:35 PM
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I pretty much travel, buy, and own what I want as well. But I guess my ideal lifestyle does have a heftier price tag.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:34 PM
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You're response was well thought out and collected, and I've appreciated my discourse with you. The last nit pick is that I never said anyone should be discriminated, just that it should be seen as the not right thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:32 PM
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We contribute more to our relationships than monetarily. I'm saying if you weren't pulling your agreed terms. Whatever that may be. Do you provide him with consoling, can he talk and confide in you, do you nurture him care for him? If you stopped doing these things would your relationship fail? Yes, because you're breaking the agreed terms you entered in on. My relationships terms are different from yours but obviously holding up our ends of the bargain is important. Not to say that we don't fal…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:30 PM
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Have you ever heard the expression "money can't buy happiness?" Yeah that's a dumb expression cause it can sure as hell can rent it, the person who said that load has never been poor or rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:27 PM
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It was an example to show you how dumb your question was. Hypothetically if you didn't contribute to your relationship would it end? Yes, duh. There are no free lunches in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:25 PM
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The difference is she's living better than 90% of the masses and she knows it lol Also in your Disney picture of love maybe, but love is something you actively work towards and build upon, feelings are fleeting, passions eb and flow. Cest la vie. But if I just went with everything that made me feel good in the moment I wouldn't be at the top end of the food chain would I?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:22 PM
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Ever wonder what happens to your relationship if you have a dead bedroom, what a dumb retort...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:20 PM
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I'm average in looks, but my financial stability extends beyond the youth of my skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:09 PM
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I said she feels sorry that they were sold a fallacy. More specifically that her friends are miserable dating and making the same tired choices to get on the same carousel and expect to see a different outcome. But the clock is ticking for those friends of hers and as they get older they've gotten more bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:08 PM
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Actually despite how petty you are, she invested in me when I was a blue collar worker and wasn't in my prime earning years. So more than any woman I love and respect her. Every other women absolutely looks at me for my paycheck, I could never love a woman as much as I love my wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:06 PM
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Yeah you are a vile person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:01 PM
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Everything's a living, are judging her for her choice as a woman. Kinda hypocritical to be pro woman and then shame a woman for doing what makes her happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 09:59 PM
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How is a soldier laying his life for his country and home a benefit to anyone but their own huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 09:57 PM
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Considering how great my wife takes care of me, absolutely. Plus being able to afford the lifestyle most dream of is pretty validating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 09:52 PM
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I didn't present anyone as being forced and offered many arguments to the contrary. Making sacrifices and forced are different perhaps you don't understand the value of either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 09:52 PM
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You seem like a very mature and well rounded person, your husband is a lucky man lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 09:48 PM
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"I don't know any men who do those jobs either, maybe make better choices. "
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 09:46 PM
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I'm not saying men who hold the door open for you, I'm saying the men who built the door you open for yourself. The men who built the house you live in, and come and fix your plumbing, and die in foreign wars. They don't ask for thank yous but the least you could do is not shit on their contributions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 09:40 PM
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Flair checks out. And different strokes for different folks, it's your life and your free to live however you like. Disrespectful and ungrateful to the men that help you as that may be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 09:32 PM
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Just because people who are proud of there work doesn't mean you should shit on them for their profession. Ididn't say anyone is forced, but sometimes people are put into boxes. Either their geographic location, intelligence factor, family legacy etc there are many factors that separate the blue collar from the white. And the reasons each may choose their profession. My brother is a blue collar and I'm a white collar. I've worked a blue collar job before adorning a white a collar. Plenty of whit…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 09:30 PM
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To you as well, thank you for the polite discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 08:18 PM
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You have to read context, but if you cannot read between lines or are unwilling then this is where the discussion and discourse ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 08:14 PM
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Firstly these men help hold up a huge foundational aspect of society and are necessary to civilization to function as we know it. What you have said is hugely disrespectful and ungrateful to the men who are working very hard to keep the rest of us churning unaware. When someone does a job well you don't even know it's been done, what would happen if men weren't working oil-rigs, truck drivers, sewer cleaners, brick layers, police officers etc... This is a huge problem that I see with women is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 08:09 PM
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Too often people cannot afford the lifestyle of the top 10% of earners. So maybe my wifes lifestyle is unrealistic to the average woman, but nonetheless these were choices we made independently and eventually together.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 08:04 PM
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I'm not saying that self-improvement isn't a good thing and that every single person should strive for. It's rediciouse to declare that the fault lies solely with the men. Personally there's a lot of work that needs to be done on both sides, and these debate forums should be bridging us together to reach a commonality instead of declaring it's the others fault for the situation we're in. Allow me to use hyperbole for expression, you know the wage gap only exist because women are lazy and unmotiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 08:02 PM
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I think make may have been the wrong word, what I meant to imply is we 'create' them. It's a slow gradual process that involves raising our children with the right values. Obviously this doesn't solve the immediate problem, one thing I'm trying to stress to people is you won't get everything out of life that you want. Perhaps it's better to get 7/10 or 6/10 and try to work from there instead of just throwing our hands up and declaring the whole system is broken or rigged.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:54 PM
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Okay so there's a lot for me to dissect here so I'm gonna number these. I didn't say anything about the people who don't want to have children, I'm an advocate of people exercising there free-will etc... Respecting everyone sounds hunky-dory but that isn't realistic, we don't respect one another just because, we respect people that are admirable are embody traits and ideals that we wish to embody in ourselves. So it's impossible to respect everyone, you can be kind and not be rude or hurtful so …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:50 PM
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My comment is in response to "That's why men have to improve." Inherently there would be nothing wrong with this except given the context it's blaming men for the problem in the dating/sexual market
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:35 PM
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Not really since like I said it's placing blame on all men, statistically it's improbable that the fault lies in all average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:07 PM
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I think I've misrepresented myself here. So let me clarify a little bit. Some of the biggest problems in a relationship are monetarily related. A lack of money equals a lot of stress. Just because I gave up on my passion doesn't mean I'm resentful, I'm just pragmatic. My wife met me and invested in me when I was a struggling artist and with her investment I've grown much farther than I could've independently. There was a time I was in a similar situation as you are, both of working and paying bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 04:46 PM
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I think here in lies the key, I do like that you said & women. So the real question how do we go about making more 'good' men and women? My theory would be a good home structure of a two parent household instilling good morals and values to their children whilst also attempting to build generational wealth. Essentially what I've been arguing in favor of since I've joined this community. That does mean that there are some generations that have to bite the proverbial bullet to be able to sacrifice…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 04:32 PM
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Biologically speaking men and women would stay together on average 7 years to raise a child to independence and continue to procreate given the average age of proto humans was 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 04:29 PM
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This is good advice, making friends is the best way to meet more women. Other men can vouch and give you the hook up as well. Be a well rounded person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 04:27 PM
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I will say trying to socialize anyway where there is an objective is annoying. I hate it when people want to small talk at work, or people see me working on my laptop and think it's conversation time, I don't use a public gym because I hate interacting with other people about gains theory and what is the best blah-blah-blah. Most the time I want to be left alone, but I suggest going somewhere where socializing is the agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 04:26 PM
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I read your entire thread and agree with your statements. Way to be level headed and understanding the macro vs micro climates. The manosphere has grown considerably in the last 5 years so I believe we're in the process of seeing the pendulum retract
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 04:18 PM
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What do average men get for improving? I'm willing to bet it's not fit, feminine, friendly, and cooperative women. I don't have a dog in this fight I'm just interested since you put the onus on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 04:12 PM
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That last example is just silly. But bolsters what I'm saying, I don't complain because I plan in advance and strategize, that's what packing lunches and keeping preserve food in your vehicle is for, also 5 gallons of water, flares, a tourniquet, and a self starting jumper pack. You CAN have standards, but it's laughable if you want somebody who is health conscious and plans, yet you patron McDonald's. Also I haven't eaten at a McDonald's in 12 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 03:51 PM
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The women in your family are responsible for choosing bad men. When you paint the average man as predatory and evil that is misandrist. I agree people shouldn't have children they can't afford, people especially shouldn't have children out of wedlock. Most people won't make it to retirement, agreed. Nothing is a guarantee in life, but it certainly gives you better odds than going solo. Two incomes is better than one. Especially if children are involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 03:47 PM
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I disagree. I can't say it's a 'root cause' but what I'm about to put forth is greater than 'horny men.' Women control the sexual market, men control relationships and access to marriage. Women are hypergamous and only want men who are equal to our better than they are. Women have delayed relationships until they are in their prime earning years, men on the other hand don't care what a women earns just only that she is fit, feminine, friendly, and cooperative. This constriction on no good partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 03:42 PM
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You're probably right, but I bring enough to the table to afford the luxury of high standards. Also I've been married for 9 years entering our 10th this May. My wife and I met each other in a store while shopping. Neither of us go to bars, but we have a speak easy in our house for entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 03:33 PM
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And I can't find the data currently so I'll just have to go off Biology. Women want men with resources, the ability to gather a lot of resources is indicative that a man is healthy and virile. Men want a beautiful women, this is an indicator of health. Men acquire resources to tempt women, women acquiring resources does not tempt men. A women who earns 60K wants a man who earns 60K+ A man who earns 60K doesn't care what the woman earns as long as she's fit, feminine, friendly, and cooperative. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 03:18 PM
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Sorry I thought you were another argument I was having, someone was saying they see men complaining on reddit all the time and I said perhaps because it's a more make centered platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 03:09 PM
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/1255182/distribution-of-users-on-reddit-worldwide-gender/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 03:05 PM
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I appreciate the discourse I've had with you and have enjoyed this thread, thank you for sharing opportunities to gain insight and strengthen my argumentative skills. Hopefully if I get the chance to run into you again.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 03:03 PM
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Dating apps are only a representation of women's hypergamy. You see more men complaining on reddit because more men are on reddit 62.8% to 37.2% Dating apps only suck for average and below average men. But I agree none the less meeting women the old fashion way is best. I probably wouldn't choose 'the bar' because of the caliber of people that tend to gravitate to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:58 PM
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You are correct I was going back and forth that was my error. Bottom line is society can't support single income earners into their retirement years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:51 PM
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I can make sweeping generalizations because outliers aren't representatives of the mean. 68% of data is in the center and 95% is just 1 standard deviation. So broad strokes paint the picture. Yes you can find that 5% that doesn't fit, but I'm not incline to view 5% as a majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:48 PM
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And dudes are the only ones with standards? What about the don't mess with me if you're not 6ft, 6 figure, 6 pack, and 12". Most the men I know just want a fit, feminine, friendly, and cooperative woman. The data has shown on dating apps women will not match men as attractive as they are only higher, because women are hypergamous. Men will match themselves or better. Aim for what you want but having realistic standards considering what you bring to the table. And if you only bring sex to the tab…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:45 PM
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Aim for whatever, accept the consequences of your choices, don't blame or fixate on others.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:37 PM
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Some are black, have spots, even polka dots. Wait what was the point of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:32 PM
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For Christ sakes my argument still stands that society wasn't built for single income households to support themselves into retirement. And perhaps an 'educated' women could but this still isn't representative of the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:30 PM
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Kinda of a misandrist narrative to put forth that the average husband is sexually subjugating their wives. The point of my argument is average earners do better at saving in a dual income household than single earners. And these people should be concerned with accruing the necessary 1.5 million they need for retirement each.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:27 PM
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Sure if your looking at a comparison, but that's not even the point of my argument. My argument is elder orphans, the first of retirement, and two incomes is better than one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:22 PM
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That's exactly what I mean. We all have to answer to somebody. Maybe the exception is the wilderness man, removed from society. Still one could make the argument he to answers to a higher being.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:18 PM
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More educated is a vague term, especially considering low monetary value degrees like humanities, criminal justice, teaching, etc. Women are more enrolled than men would be a better way to phrase that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:05 PM
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Correct, most people should try and do their best, lest retirement look very grim.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:02 PM
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Yes median doesn't mean it's representative of everyone. My point still stands that it's not enough for the average single women to make enough for full retirement. Society will have to shoulder the burden of elder orphan women who didn't want to be responsible and invest in a partner. My point is a single income is worst off than a dual income. Women hold 58% of the student loan debt and yet typically the highest earning fields STEM they only make up %8 of the workforce. Instead women take on l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 02:00 PM
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It does look like women earn up to $60K by retirement but that's still not enough to make the 1.5mill necessary for retirement
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 01:26 PM
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https://www.investopedia.com/retirement/how-much-you-should-have-saved-age/ 80,000 per year of retirement, 80K * 20 = 1.6mill. Retirement 65-85 typically Here's a breakdown of women income by age https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/07/18/heres-how-much-men-and-women-earn-at-every-age.html
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 01:24 PM
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I agree most women don't know that, most women I've heard assume they can find a man earning 30rd year old money in 20 year old body. Personally I blame the exposure of social media, distorting the average life to people. But you are correct, that is the ideal set up. But time and time again I've heard women say, if they can't have a 6 ft, 6 figure, 6 pack man they'd just rather die alone. And that's fine I guess. Until they become an aging burden to society unable to provide for themselves as e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 01:21 PM
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It's not a freedom I pretend my wife has, it's a freedom she enjoys. You are discounting another woman's choice so you are hypocritical in your own turn. Also you come across as a misandrist when you claim 'man baby'. Plus working and not working are sort of your only options. Your hobbies are endless, but unless you want to be destitute you need to be an earner. Most divorce are initiated by women, so it's women leaving their spouses and finding the grass isn't greener. Especially when a males …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 01:13 PM
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Someone has to be the slave, I mean especially if you want to earn the level that I'm at. No one makes what I make as a hobby lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 01:09 PM
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Don't be sorry, live your life. Good luck to you out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 09:06 AM
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I always found it ironic that romantic comedies are geared towards women, but kinda goes to my point romance created by men for women. But really like the inventor taking pleasure in his creation and the delight of those who enjoy said creation it's the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:25 AM
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I was making a two sided point. Yes poor word choice was the first but it still illustrates my point. Like this. Company: the fact or condition of being with another or others, especially in a way that provides friendship and enjoyment. You cannot be a singular 'we'. Humans are social creatures and we need connection. The best connection one could hope to attain in this life is love.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:21 AM
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What's interesting is if you look at female partner selection on/off ovulation and what birth control did as far as disrupting the sexual market. Women choose men who are more feminine when they aren't ovulating and masculine when they are. A couple generations of hormone disrupting birth control and we have a great divide and a war on 'toxic masculinity.'
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:17 AM
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Companionship: a feeling of fellowship or friendship. "the love and companionship of marriage" I guess you're right as a man I never thought to befriend and marry myself. I need to inform my wife immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:14 AM
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Yeah I'm pretty sure we're missing a scale for reference. Obviously better looking men with more options aren't having sex with 600lb women. Vice-versa Usually the lowest tier men are willing to stick it in anything but they're probably the bottom 20% But yes a 600lb women still has more options than a man in the same scenario but definitely not HV options.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:12 AM
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Actually I believe it's the opposite. Women come as a consequence. We judge our worth from other men. It's damn hard to get the approval of a man as a man. But that approval is earned respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:03 AM
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Ummm I guess... listen I'm not gonna say that loving yourself is wrong. Buuut it's not the only value that matters. You and I both know when a HVM walks into a room, you automatically admire something about him. In that moment you've already admitted he's above you in the hierarchy. And that's not a bad thing, I've been the admirer and currently becoming more admiree to people. My point is living in society is playing by societies rules. That means what other people deem your worth matters. If y…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 07:00 AM
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I lived this life and I will say it's not conducive to a man's well being or life satisfaction. Can a man live that way and be productive in society, yes. But for me when I was in that situation, it made me bitter and resentful. I was less outgoing, less happy, less friendly. I'll let you in on a man secret, men are actually the romantic gender. Men invented romance as a means to woo women. Think about who falls in love faster, men or women? In my experience men are much more easily infatuated. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 06:52 AM
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Philanthropy is admirable but like my father told me when I was a young boy. "Son a man doesn't get to do what he wants, he does what he must." He had a couple variations of that phrase. It took me a little life experience to understand I had to give up on my dream of being an artist in favor of being a provider. I guess the dream of a good life and being able to give back to those around me outweighed my personal desires of passion and recognition. I still practice my art in my free time here a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 06:33 AM
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I think it's sad personally. I don't love what I do true... but I get paid a lot of money to do it so that I can afford time with my friends and family. The job is just a means to a lot of money, money is the means to afford time and luxury, time and luxury spent with the ones you love are the moments worth living for. Naturally I'm an industrious person, and I'll probably not retire by choice, but the time I spent with my outside of work with loved ones is more meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 06:22 AM
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I am indeed corrected, she was born into nobility. However she still wasn't on the same wealth level prince Charles was.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 06:10 AM
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Kudos for being another dick on the internet stranger, I'd like to award you this worthless token.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 06:06 AM
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I'm explaining the downfall of being a 'single boss chick' without a dual partner income. Not sure if that's explaining "being a women" but your free to read it however you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 06:01 AM
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The funny thing is that work as freedom was a lie sold to women. It benefits corporations to have twice as many workers therefore cutting the cost of all workers. Supply and demand. I'm not against women pursuing whatever their heart desires, educate yourself, work till you die etc. But we are entering a new era where people aren't able to afford retirement. The median income for women in the US is 25K, they will need between $1-$2 million for retirement to live from 65-85. Thats hoping there ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:25 AM
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oof if my college years were a book, loneliness and alcoholism would've been their own chapters. I moved out of a terribly abusive household at 18 with 1 sack of clothing I was homeless for a year between being a firefighter and working retail.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:19 AM
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It's your right to have your opinion but I don't know that I agree with you. I am a real man, and I don't wish to have a 'family' I'm too engaged to my career and my wife is not interested in having kids as well. I'm active in my community and have a good social circle where I'm apart of many other people's families, including being God-Father to 2 children. But I am very much dedicated to making an impact through my work and attaining as many accolades as I can get before I'm wrapped in sheets …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:15 AM
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Your post deserves more recognition. I have hope for you that you will find someone on your level and get the happiness you're looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:11 AM
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Anecdotally most of the 'boss chicks' I know who say they don't catch feels and they only ride men like they're human toys usually either are damaged or eventually catch feels. Perhaps there are some outliers that can have meaningless unattached sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:09 AM
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Correct, at least until retirement and there support network isn't a financial support. People need about $1-$2 million for retirement and I'm gonna go out on a limb and say most the single ladies don't have that. Especially when the median income for women in the US is $25K.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:06 AM
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Rich people also want a certain caliber of women and the old adage you can't make a hoe a house wife might apply. I'm not saying every poverty level person is a hoe. But it is far more unlikely that they are agreeable, cooperative, submissive, feminine etc... Because a hard life usually teaches you not to take shit. Rich people don't want to deal with that. A rich man will take a women out of middle class and elevate her to the echelon of society because she usually knows what a great deal she i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:00 AM
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The only category I see fit is wealthy women who want men who earn as much as they do or more, men don't care about a woman's finances. Hence why rich men have sugar babies...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 04:57 AM
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Funny that normal 9-5ers believe they're getting more respect than a trophy wife. We're all whores at some level if you think about, slaves by the hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 04:54 AM
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Weird when you look at women of high value they often get with 'nobodies' they aren't getting men that are on their level or better than them. Look at Cardi-B dating a nobody or Iggy getting cheated on. I know this is of the entertainer circle but it applies to wealthy women across the board. A good example is Halle Berry one of the most attractive women of her time, hyper successful and yet married 3 times and complaining about men. Women who are high earners believe that their money is enticin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 04:52 AM
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So right here I think you hit the nail on the head where a lot of men are feeling rejected from the dating market for being 'average' when they aren't at their peak. This is anecdotal but my wife met me and gave me a full opportunity when I was at my lowest. I can say with certainty that as successful as I am and ambitious as I've become is a large part to her investment. I have a great amount of love and respect for her. I'm average in looks but she saw potential and bought stocks when they wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 09:25 PM
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Male peak attractiveness is between late 20s late 30s. Female peak attractiveness is early 20s mid 30s. Obviously a lot of factors at play but these are averages. It's about the same window just different time openings.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:01 PM
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Men are appreciating assets and women are depreciating. Typically a man is valued on his capabilities of providing. And a women is valued on her fertility and looks. Men can grow, invest, and climb until death. Women aren't investors but consumers. So I guess in your comparison the best course is for 2 homosexual high value men to pair off because they're asset generation would be unstoppable lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 07:50 PM
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I think you're partially correct, the studies have shown men will match women AS attractive as they are and better, vs women will ONLY match better. Women are hypergamous and you can't hate the players hate the game. You are correct there are whiney RP who want Stacy's to date let's say a low value man 'Kevin' and it's not realistic. There are outliers but that's not representative of the mean. The advice I would've given myself when I was a young dorky high school 'Kevin' is to forget about gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 07:45 PM
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I'm not saying civilized life was ever like that, but our deviation from apes probably looked similar to their hierarchies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 01:16 AM
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Feminist degree gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 12:20 AM
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Weird how you favor statistics or speaking in probabilities inconsistently. Don't get me wrong I'll concede statistically you are correct there are outliers from the median.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 12:07 AM
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Doing a little investigative work has led me to see that both of the ancient civilizations you put forth were indeed typically patriarchal. In that men lead the household and men held most positions of authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 10:56 PM
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And here we can agree to disagree. Culture IMO evolves in tandem with biology
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 10:43 PM
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And what about the Egyptians also patriarchal in government and religion and twice as old as Rome?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 08:36 PM
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Your dad is a great example for hypergamy in women. Listen to what he tries to teach you.
/r/MensRights27/02/22 08:33 PM
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Isn't that what I just said about your exposition on matriarchal societies? Some but not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 08:29 PM
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Yes because I am a HVM I have the resources to provide the lifestyle most woman want, not yaht money but regular vacations and a big house. I'm not interested in having kids, I'm more invested in my career and my own personal ventures.
/r/MensRights27/02/22 08:22 PM
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Also not all primitive cultures shared the same ideologies. Some as you described were that way and others differed. Just as some tribes practiced cannibalism and others didn't. Obviously this mother goddess didn't stand the test of time as most of the influential cultures now are hierarchical patriarchies in religion and government
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 08:19 PM
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You should listen to Jordan Petersons lecture about culture (masculine the father) and nature (feminine the mother) I believe the lecture is on maps of meaning
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 08:15 PM
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Chicken or the egg really. Did the preferences arise because the culture dictated or did the preference dictate culture. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle but I'm leaning to the former more than the ladder. I would say American women prefer circumcised more because that's there exposure. The real data would have to involve samples from women who the norm is uncircumcised. Alas I cannot change the cards I have been dealt but I can find comfort in the fact that I have a great wife who …
/r/MensRights27/02/22 07:44 PM
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Or is it that culture isn't separate from evolution and in fact we both shape and change each other. And just because we have biological imperatives and cultural expectations we don't deviate from the norm because people are complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 07:32 PM
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Yes and though our primitive less cultured ancestors may have dragged woman off to their caves and hoarded their harems from less valuable males today we've evolved and adapted culture and responsibility. We cannot say just because it was, so it shall be.... Otherwise women would go back to being baby making machines and property of the most dominate males.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 07:28 PM
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Pregnancy from an evolutionary standpoint was absolutely dangerous. in the 1700s by some estimates 1.5%-4% of mothers died at childbirth, though it is impossible to be certain. The health risk was renewed at each pregnancy. Since a woman averaged five pregnancies, 10% of these women died during or soon after childbirth. Modern medicine has really saved a lot of women and made us discount what our ancestors truly risked for us to be here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 07:25 PM
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This right here, a man starts out worth nothing. a woman is inherently born with value. A man has to earn value over time by making wise choices. a woman loses value over time by depreciation of her womb and her choices indicating her ability to be a nurturing mother. It's simple biology. Science isn't about what's fair, it's about what is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 07:18 PM
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Is it any different than women rejecting men because of their height or their wealth? Most of the men who care about high n counts and have any control or say about it are higher value men. So why do you care what HVM want?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 07:16 PM
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Statistics are great for representing data. For example 78% of people who were in vehicular accidents wore a seatbelt. of total fatal accidents 48.1% were not wearing a seatbelt. So the data concludes that there is a significant difference to wearing a seatbelt. Yes you can extrapolate and try to contort data to fit your narrative. How fast were the cars going, was alcohol involved, what was the weather conditions. But it doesn't change the underlying fact that just wearing a seatbelt would have…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 07:13 PM
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Disagree, high n counts is indicative of impulsivity in a to a linear degree. Example time. Is a person who has only had 3 sexual partners impulsive? (probably not) How about 10 sexual partners? (maybe) How about 30 sexual partners? (more probably) How about 70 sexual partners? (definitely) There is a point in that scale where it is no longer just a healthy sexual appetite but begins to look like an alcoholic proclaiming "I can drink the most of anyone in this room." I bet you could, but where d…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 07:05 PM
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It's genital mutilation. Mutilation: an act or instance of destroying, removing, or severely damaging a limb or other body part of a person or animal. Was circumcised as I am a white non Jewish male in America. It was never my choice and despite that my wife prefers it I still would have appreciated autonomy over my own body.
/r/MensRights27/02/22 06:35 PM
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Being the child of mentally ill parents, I would like to present you this upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 06:16 PM
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I'd day social media has broken relational bonds between men and women. We used to use people in our community, our peers to compare our successes. Today you go on Instagram and see 20 year old millionaires and people expect that to be their reality. I haven't seen to many people my age admit they are average and living average lives. They always think some hustle or bet will put them on top. We are also less connected locally the more connected we are globally. PSA to all men, if you're a 7 or …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 05:57 PM
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It's funny I was just discussing this with a friend. I don't believe that monogamy in humans is necessarily 'modern' but this depends on your definition of modern I'm going with the first recording of human civilization so let's say within the last 6,000 years vs the proto humans existing 200,000 years ago for the first time. Even back in proto human days it made sense for people to pair together and raise offspring, better chances of genetic survival. But the average age that this lasted was 7 …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 05:39 PM
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The studies have been done to show that in EITHER men or women those who have more partners are more likely to unfaithful in a relationship. The men that really care are the ones that want a woman of integrity and value. It's not fair but 2 things play a roll in this. It is far easier for women to have sex then men, a woman could text every male colleague or friend in their phone for 'Netflix and chill' and get about a %90 return rate. So women having multiple sexual partners shows a lack of dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 04:34 PM
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So your 3 claims are pretty spot on. Women engage in casual sex. This will upset ladies as most women are dating without the intention of getting married. Like having a marriage and the pros of a relationship but a back door to walk out of whenever a better option comes available or challenges arise they'd rather not deal with. This is actually counter productive because women start with a higher sexual market place value than men do. A 20 year old woman is worth more than a 20 year old man. A 2…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 04:18 PM
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Man I wish I still had my foreskin, my GF says she prefers putting a circumcised penis in her mouth than uncircumcised but I wish I could comparably know what was taken from me. I still find sex pleasurable and could go a round or two a day but could it be even better? Also I do notice I have to rely entirely on my partner to be lubed or to use lube because I'm not generating anything on this dry tip besides pre-cum.
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