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Yet we tell these guys that they can be intrinsicly valued for being a good person of strong character, and they want nothing of it. And they are angry because they feel they should intrinsically be entitled to adoration and desire, regardless of their views or desirability of their character. They are wholly confused as to why women don't want them, and do very little to consider what women actually want or find desirable. Hence, anger in not getting what they feel they deserve, for no earned r…
/r/ExRedPill17/04/24 07:43 PM
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You don't talk about desiring to connect with women as people, you speak as though they are merely a tool for your pleasure. Even for casual sex, you have to consider the woman as a person with an agency of her own. She would have to desire sex with you as well, and that takes at least a modicum of connection to do so, unless you are talking about pure sex by duty or service.
/r/ExRedPill17/04/24 03:16 PM
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That's a lot of analysis for nothing that I said. My opinion is based on the anger and entitlement these poster's words contain.
/r/ExRedPill17/04/24 03:15 PM
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We are definitely agreeing more than we are disagreeing, and we are probably just different spokes in the same wheel of change that we are trying to perpetuate. Good discussion, and I hope the audience takes something from it. 💞
/r/ExRedPill17/04/24 06:53 AM
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But its also worth noting that women do get a lot more attention and social connection than men do which can lead to a lot of loneliness from men. It is sad, but it's also part of the harms of conditioning under patriarchy, towards men. Make no mistake, the day-to-day attention women get from men does not equal less loneliness for us, as it has very little value to most of us. What leads to women having more social connections, is our active participation, initiation, and perpetuation of those c…
/r/ExRedPill17/04/24 06:42 AM
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We fundamentally agree, even on your last premise. However I really wish you men would stop cutting yourselves so short, when it comes to your capabilities in restraint. Through patriarchy, it has become normalized and acceptable for men to use their animalistic side as an excuse to not engaging their fully functioning capabilities of reasoning and restraint. It's about being permitted to be indulgent, by society, as men. Men and women are not that different but for our conditioning. As a woman,…
/r/ExRedPill17/04/24 06:25 AM
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Of course young men have high sex drives; we also have frontal lobes, which distinguish us from apes, and which can help us reason beyond our initial "animal instincts" (men included). If patriarchy didn't exist, there wouldn't be so much anger as a result of sexual disappointments. Patriarchy hurts both sexes, and this is a perfect example of how.
/r/ExRedPill17/04/24 06:08 AM
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Misogyny is what makes these guys equate women to a tool that can be used as the means to meet their sexual needs (instead of seeing them as a person whom they wish to mutually connect with). Patriarchy is what makes these men feel entitled and angry that they didn't receive what they feel they were promised, as men.
/r/ExRedPill17/04/24 05:44 AM
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You wish you were the guy getting laid so easily, no? So how are you different in your fundemental motivations and views of women? I would caution you in thinking there's any correlation between being a misogynist and your ability to get laid. When people say your views are misogynistic, they are not equating that with your problem in getting laid -- they're just equating it as a problem.
/r/ExRedPill17/04/24 05:29 AM
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NOT TRUE That's just one example. Get out more. Look around. Stop being so fucking pessimistic. That's one thing that people do not want to be around no matter what the fuck you look like.
/r/ExRedPill16/04/24 06:24 AM
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I guarantee there are women you notice and have sexual attraction for much more than you would for other women, right? Do you feel ashamed for feeling this way? Do you feel like you're being mean or unfair to the women you aren't attracted to? No, because you can't help what you are and aren't attracted to. And you shouldn't feel bad about it either. Great stuff! The problem is, most pillers and incels have trouble reversing or applying their logic about themselves, equivalently and uniformily t…
/r/ExRedPill16/04/24 05:09 AM
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I'm willing to bet that the key difference between you and your friend, is that he doesn't spend his time whining and lurking from the sidelines.
/r/ExRedPill16/04/24 05:02 AM
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"why don't incels just work harder to become a high value desirable man" The reason it doesn't work, is because what the redpill sells you is based on a false premise; what they see as a "high-value, desirable man" is not at all effective in attracting women. It feels like the constant messaging is, "you want to get laid like attractive men do? You're shallow and just want to use women so you can feel like a king. Stop desiring to be something you're not comparison is the theft of joy and be hap…
/r/ExRedPill15/04/24 05:12 AM
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I'm of the opinion that any argument can be worked out fairly quickly and does not need to escalate, if both parties are willing and have the skills to do so. Often, men don't care enough to try, and see any unhappiness from their partner as it "not working", when in reality their expectations of women are unrealistic and dehumanizing (be happy no matter what, to please their partner who is unwilling to consider them).
/r/ExRedPill15/04/24 04:39 AM
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They are not "arguing like it's fun". Why not assume they are arguing to seek resolution, validation and understanding?
/r/ExRedPill14/04/24 07:39 PM
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It's not that we want conflict for sex, but we want truth over placation. Conflict leads to intimacy if resolved in a healthy way.
/r/ExRedPill14/04/24 02:04 AM
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Right? There's just something about the way this guy words this, that seems he doesn't see women as actually human. On top of that, there are no perfect people, let alone a perfect man. The fact that he buys into the idea of a perfect man while referring to women as a monolith of sociopathy, is beyond concerning.
/r/ExRedPill14/04/24 01:49 AM
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Women are human beings. None of this drivel seems to realise that.
/r/ExRedPill13/04/24 05:33 AM
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When a person meets another person, they’re not meeting a type of person—they’re not meeting a statistic. They’re talking to another individual human being. Something tells me that the concept of seeing members of the opposite sex as human beings, is completely lost on OP. That's why none of this concept actually lands with them -- this is all just pure projection on their part.
/r/ExRedPill07/04/24 02:28 AM
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Exactly this. This person is clearly not seeking change if all they want to do is defend their point of view. And if their point of view is that they're a piece of shit, then they're probably contributing to their own misery and lack of momentum towards change. I really don't get what they're seeking from us, other than to drain us of our energy to bolster their confidence (in their own misery).
/r/ExRedPill07/04/24 02:26 AM
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Lololol. You need help. Truly. Your entire thinking is based on false premises, illogical fallacies, false equivalences, and needless verbosity (verging on word-salad). Let's just go with it. Let's assume you're right; you're human shit and no one was ever attracted to you -- nor ever will be -- because you are "objectively unattractive". Now what? What are you seeking when you post that here? Anybody who states otherwise you're going to argue with, so what is it? Do you need attention? Are you …
/r/ExRedPill07/04/24 02:23 AM
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They'll just say it's her own fault because she should have known better and seen the red flags in him.... She is stupid for believing his lies 🙄 Or they'll blame her for trying to trap him.
/r/ExRedPill06/04/24 06:16 AM
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You need to get out and live your own life, instead of listening to nobodies. There is no roadmap, and there is no universal truth about anyone... man, or woman. Go have an original thought, based on your own, lived experiences.
/r/ExRedPill06/04/24 06:13 AM
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People are simply calling you out on your illogical fallacies, or false premise. Have you ever considered for one small moment that YOU are the one lacking perspective; have you considered that perhaps your unwillingness to see other perspectives, is exactly what is inhibiting you?
/r/ExRedPill03/04/24 04:50 AM
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Those dudes are lying and manipulating women, in order to get them. That's literally the extent of their game -- being a sociopath.
/r/ExRedPill01/04/24 04:50 PM
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He only thinks the way he does about "first choice" because he sees women as any other object he purchases. As a consumer, he wants to select the "best" product out there, and not settle for anything less than all the top features available. He'll never have success, unless he turns from a consumer mindset, into a sales mindset, and starts becoming more concerned instead about the quality of product that he himself is offering on the "market".
/r/ExRedPill18/03/24 03:06 PM
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Because there is no "guy women desire". Just as there are a variety of women, there are a variety of preferences. It seems while reading the sub, your reading comprehension has failed you; people aren't telling you that you'll never be desirable, but that you are desirable to someone out there, just the way you are. Any improvements that you need to make at this point, are within.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/24 02:55 PM
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And this is why no one wants you. Women do not respond to desperation, nor indifference. We do not wish to be treated like an object for your pleasure, but shockingly, we prefer to feel special or desired.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/24 02:49 PM
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These dudes are addicted to misery and lies.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/24 08:53 AM
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If you want to commit to being an idiot, then enjoy your misery.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/24 08:53 AM
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Or they hate their mom and think their dad had to settle. Or they hate her for being a single mom, and blame her for their dad not being around.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/24 08:51 AM
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Oh god. STFU.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/24 08:49 AM
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I think it's time I face my biggest fear of demonstrating interest and taking that risk. I think you need to address the root cause of that "fear". I believe the only thing you are afraid of, is losing control of the situation, and I believe unless you deal with that shortcoming directly, this will come up in other aspects of the relationship, later. Don't enter into a relationship unless you see it as completely 50/50, including mutual respect and consideration.
/r/ExRedPill17/03/24 03:42 PM
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You sound like you are in grade school. Why do "boys" interact with us while playing mind games, then wonder why "they can never get a girl", while walking around insulting us and acting like you don't like us? You are the one playing games and acting with nefarious, alterior motivations, and then you project that upon women and girls, accusing us of being the ones that play games. Even after you'd "get" her, you'd likely only continue with your strategies and mind games of control, then wonder …
/r/ExRedPill17/03/24 03:37 PM
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You still gotta flirt though.
/r/ExRedPill16/03/24 02:28 AM
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It's funny that the advice is never the obvious choice.... If you want a woman to be with you, show genuine interest in her, and be kind to her.
/r/ExRedPill16/03/24 02:14 AM
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It's just objectification and dehumanizing women all around.
/r/ExRedPill14/03/24 10:02 PM
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He's fishing for justification.
/r/ExRedPill14/03/24 04:25 AM
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He's just waiting for ALL women to be perfect beings, who treat men with respect (at all times), before he can "justify" leaving bigotry against women (and TRP), behind.
/r/ExRedPill13/03/24 12:43 PM
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I hate these posts. Why should women sit around and debate our worth, especially compared to men? If you think this about us, then so be it. The only misery you are going to cause with this line of thinking, is your own.
/r/ExRedPill11/03/24 06:57 PM
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I dunno... Do men have empathy for women?
/r/ExRedPill09/03/24 07:10 AM
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You know that like 99% of those "street video" clips are completely staged, right?
/r/ExRedPill05/03/24 06:55 AM
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And how do you not have empathy for people you say you are "really close with"? Something doesn't add up.... 🤔
/r/ExRedPill25/02/24 04:23 AM
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Do you talk to them about their lives, without any motivations?
/r/ExRedPill25/02/24 03:17 AM
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In what way are you interacting?
/r/ExRedPill25/02/24 02:02 AM
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It really doesn't matter what you think, as I am just recounting my vast anecdotal experience.
/r/ExRedPill24/02/24 08:20 PM
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Exactly. Why is it usually the dudes having the least amount of sex, who are discussing which women they would "rule out" the most?
/r/ExRedPill24/02/24 08:15 PM
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If a man doesn't want to date because of a woman's body-count, I count that as a win for women. I've never met a successful, well-adjusted man who cares about this in the least.
/r/ExRedPill24/02/24 08:14 PM
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You've reduced women to objects and no longer see them as human, likely because you have no interaction with any outside of being a sideline creeper (watching them from a distance). I don't know what I -- as a woman -- am supposed to do for you, and I am searching for a reason to care. I'm definitely not going to try and convince you of my humanity and worth, when frankly I think you should probably be doing that for all of us, after what you just admitted.
/r/ExRedPill24/02/24 07:19 PM
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Preferring someone look a certain way, is not bigoted -- that's just simply attraction. Degrading one sex over the other for doing something completely normal, based in a notion that women should not take part in such things or else they have less value (like an object, and not a human), is bigoted. There is a huge difference.
/r/ExRedPill21/02/24 09:44 PM
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You can have a preference, but it doesn't automatically make it free from being labelled as bigoted, if it is.
/r/ExRedPill21/02/24 03:04 AM
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"Body count" implies war, death, decay... Yup. It makes me wonder how men would fair if women had the same standard, and let it apply to porn and masturbation. Like, "I find a man who touches his pee-pee (like a little creepy-cuck) while staring at other women on a screen (who don't even know he exists), ick." Just imagine if every woman they did that to, counted as a "body count" against them. Now imagine they do this so much that their little head can't even get fully erect anymore without a d…
/r/ExRedPill20/02/24 01:42 AM
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This is the answer; you said it better than I did.
/r/ExRedPill20/02/24 01:18 AM
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What if a women demanded the same from you -- that you've never had casual sex? Or worse, what if she demanded that you can't be a virgin? How would you feel about that? But you should really ask yourself why you have this as a standard at all. How does her sexual past, affect you in the present?
/r/ExRedPill20/02/24 01:15 AM
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A fantasy is not always something we wish to act upon.
/r/ExRedPill12/02/24 02:18 AM
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You mean the place where they sell the props for porn? Also speaking of porn, I've seen plenty of porn addicted guys getting into ass fucking themselves with giant dildos. There's your market.
/r/ExRedPill08/02/24 03:22 AM
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Not true, unless you think porn is a reflection of what women want.
/r/ExRedPill07/02/24 10:22 PM
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You need to get out and live life, instead of trying to experience it through a screen.
/r/ExRedPill07/02/24 10:21 PM
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Anyone over 25 shouldn't date under 25, and by the rule of "half your age, plus 7", 46 would be her top range, if she was 29. So, for a 29 year old, their range should be about 25 - 46 in a partner.
/r/ExRedPill13/01/24 08:38 PM
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You will only be ready to date, when you no longer ask this question at all (because then it'll be clear that you see women as nuanced people).
/r/ExRedPill10/01/24 08:52 AM
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Exactly. What they mean by "easier for women", is in finding one-night-stands. The logic is so flawed because they are applying male goals to women, when the vast majority of us don't want what they want, at all.
/r/ExRedPill08/01/24 03:43 AM
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It means her relationship or life lacks romance, maybe.
/r/ExRedPill06/01/24 10:44 AM
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These dudes are specifically going into struggling countries and seeking out women who are desperate for a better life. That is predatory, especially since your perceived wealth and stability (to her) come simply from circumstances beyond your control, and you are travelling to places where that gives you power.
/r/ExRedPill05/01/24 11:08 PM
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Such victim blaming.
/r/ExRedPill31/12/23 01:36 PM
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Since when do only women do coke?
/r/ExRedPill30/12/23 05:18 AM
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Because incels and pillers like to confirm their bias.
/r/ExRedPill09/12/23 11:10 AM
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it's dumb to commit to and be romantic with that type of woman, they're gross, unattractive, and I don't want something that everyone else has already had. This is your problem, right here. You are talking about her like an object.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/23 02:45 AM
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Your only problem is that you don't see women as equal people. If a man has 20 - 50 partners by his late 20s, should he also be discarded like a used object? Apparently, there is an evolutionary reason for why men are concerned with a woman's sexual history. It is because for most of human history, men couldn't ensure paternity if he slept with a promiscuous woman. This is some repill pseudo-science, right there. Anything that comes from our animalistic side, can be overridden with the evolution…
/r/ExRedPill29/11/23 02:42 AM
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Nah, Reddit definitely just removed your comment for bigotry.
/r/ExRedPill14/11/23 05:35 PM
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Ah. So bigotry then.
/r/ExRedPill14/11/23 07:10 AM
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Lol. No.
/r/ExRedPill12/11/23 09:10 PM
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Women are people. Why do you fear them more than men?
/r/ExRedPill12/11/23 07:31 PM
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You need to start seeing women as human just like you. Are you going to leave your girlfriend for a big titty girl that comes along?
/r/ExRedPill10/11/23 09:57 PM
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Women like confident guys, and early in life those happen to usually be "bad boys". We don't know that though, as most of those guys present themselves much differently to hook us.
/r/ExRedPill07/11/23 04:07 PM
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In this case though, "show you the world" is just code for the ability to groom you.
/r/ExRedPill28/10/23 10:58 PM
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It was December 1996 and the ticket being last minute and refundable/changeable, was $2700 CAD. I took about $1000 spending money and somehow made it last (although I mostly ate sandwiches and fish from beach-stands or huts). Did do some drinking and drugs though (maybe a lot). Made a lot of friends and was brought over for dinner with various families, a lot.
/r/ExRedPill28/10/23 08:32 AM
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I've even travelled up north in my own country (Canada) for work, with nothing but a backpack and cash for hitching boat-rides, in some parts. Everything I had to eat for two-weeks, was on my back. Then there was the time at 18 years old, when I bought a plane ticket to Australia for the next day (on a whim), and ended up extending my 2 week trip to 3 months, travelling the coast in a cabbed-over El Camino (for the surfboards), sleeping on the beach wherever we found ourselves. I've never needed…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/23 08:11 AM
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Went to Cancun earlier this year, took the local bus down to the central part of the city to a local food market, I’d say maybe 2% if that were foreigners. Dude. I did this exact same thing in Cancun in 2002 (no joke), but I also went to the bullfight full of locals, and the Walmart. Then I took a jeep into the jungle and got stopped by malitia (thank goodness our guide had prepared bribe money in advance). What else you got?
/r/ExRedPill28/10/23 07:33 AM
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I am 45, and I've yet to have a single man older or younger, "show me the world". If anything, I opened the world to most men I dated or married.
/r/ExRedPill27/10/23 09:49 PM
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Cognitive Behavioural Therapy is what would work great here. You don't need therapy, just get a real good self-help book on the subject. Basically you need to consciously and acrively change and combat the current narrative that's in your head.
/r/ExRedPill24/10/23 08:11 AM
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But newsflash, this is where your projection comes in.... Most women don't care about sex as much as men do; it is just one facet of a relationship. If we don't like your penis, we'll let you go for that alone, early on. What you are suggesting however, is that women would trade you in for a bigger dick, and that is you making women into subhuman creatures.
/r/ExRedPill24/10/23 08:07 AM
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Women are people just like you. It would be considered abnormal or dysfunctional behaviour to discard an established relationship, in order to swap out our partner's dick for a bigger one. If you don't see that, your problem is misogyny and a failure to recognize women as human beings, the same as you. You're "othering" women beyond having basic human morals or emotions.
/r/ExRedPill24/10/23 07:39 AM
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Would you leave an established relationship for a tighter "hole" or bigger boobs?
/r/ExRedPill24/10/23 07:35 AM
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This is just a projection of your own shallowness, if you believe others to be this way.
/r/ExRedPill24/10/23 07:31 AM
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Do you also look up videos on how to talk to men, or people in general? Honestly, most issues I hear about when it comes to dating, actually come down to a lack of consideration of women as equal human-beings to you (men). Instead of trying to mimic people online and imposter your way in, why not just focus on actually being a guy that somebody else would want to be around, hang out with, talk to, etc? All of these things are required before sex. Dating women for relationships, is no different t…
/r/ExRedPill20/10/23 09:25 AM
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No, it is... At least towards people who like people whom are emotionally in tune.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/23 04:57 AM
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This is about humans in general... Crying makes you vulnerable and emotionally in tune, therefore you are perceived as more attractive for it. But if you cry over things that aren't really that big, or you do it often or for emotional manipulation (playing victim), then no matter what your gender, this will repel people. It's as simple as that.
/r/ExRedPill20/10/23 12:18 AM
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You'll have no issue talking to women, when you see them and approach them as equal to you and all men. They're just people. When you act awkward it's because you don't see women as the same as you, and it comes off as potential danger to women (not anything in particular, per se). It's really no different than making friends, in this regard. Not every guy is going to want to be your friend, and not every woman will want to date you. Most guys with confidence themselves, would also probably find…
/r/ExRedPill11/10/23 09:57 AM
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....and after all those rules they put upon us which we must conform to, they complain there are too many standards women place upon them. 🙄
/r/ExRedPill08/09/23 12:55 AM
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It's like some weird manifestation of the Madonna-Whore Complex. The whore is the "hot girl" who they think is fucking everyone but them (and they see her as shallow), so it makes them mad. The Madonna is the "chaste girl-next-door" who ignores him and finds him creepy and awkward (and they see her as stuck-up), so it makes them mad. It's two different women they want, for two different purposes really, and they can't get either, so they are mad.
/r/ExRedPill08/09/23 12:48 AM
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This is VERY well put. I believe one has to see women as "other" than human, or completely as an object, in order to fall into RP at all. I suspect most of these dudes spend a considerable amount of time vascilating between competing in "quests" online, porn, and social media; all of which only reinforce or inhibit their ability to grasp or relate to people (especially women) in the real world.
/r/ExRedPill06/09/23 06:38 PM
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Nah. Lol. I am not even here to roast you.... I sincerely hope this serves as a lesson (or a chuckle) in future, to always air on the side of caution, when it comes to stating controversial opinions. You don't have to agree with everyone to respect everyone. ✌️
/r/ExRedPill04/09/23 07:09 AM
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What looks bad is that you don't know that Madonna the pop star, didn't invent the name.
/r/ExRedPill04/09/23 06:51 AM
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Thanks for admitting you were speaking ignorantly. Maybe next time use Google to find out or ask for clarification, before you jump to degrading assumptions.
/r/ExRedPill03/09/23 08:57 PM
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They want a virgin they can groom to perform on command, like the porn they see.
/r/ExRedPill03/09/23 07:19 PM
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She was first big in the 80s. Sir, why do you have to sexually degrade a woman you don't know, simply for your amusement?
/r/ExRedPill03/09/23 07:17 PM
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Psychopathic views at that.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/23 01:26 AM
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No one cares what you think should or should not be happening here. Now enjoy that temporary Reddit ban, and be sure to watch your mouth when they let you back in, mmmm k?
/r/ExRedPill01/09/23 03:02 PM
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Allow me to quote the description of the group, since you seem somewhat illiterate: For former redpillers and others who recognize the damage caused by redpill. You clearly have much work to do, to use such language towards a woman online, simply because you don't like their opinion. Why are you in this sub, when you are not "former redpilled"?
/r/ExRedPill01/09/23 04:59 AM
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I got into redpill doing research for my brother on his nasty divorce. He got screwed. With all due respect, you are the biased one (being close to your brother) -- the court is not.
/r/ExRedPill30/08/23 08:59 AM
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Shut the fuck up. No one asked your opinion on stay-at-home moms.
/r/ExRedPill30/08/23 01:38 AM
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Who do you think you are to tell me to "hush"? I'll speak and type whatever I wish, anywhere I please. And the upvotes agree.
/r/ExRedPill29/08/23 07:53 PM
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he wants a prenup where I get nothing in the event of a divorce. That's not a traditional marriage.
/r/ExRedPill29/08/23 05:39 AM
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Yes. That's not relevant though, to the fact that this is a psychopathic thought.
/r/ExRedPill26/08/23 02:27 AM
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How do you get rid of your misogynistic mindset, you mean. Because this line is completely psychopathic.... if we’re not fornicating why are you even talking to me
/r/ExRedPill26/08/23 01:51 AM
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