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TheVertex_/r/MGTOW11/03/18 10:34 PM
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"Obvious trolling"? The girl in the link you posted is a 5 at most. The ratings are in the 3-4 range. It's a bit harsh, but at least it's better than the ridiculous high scores (9-10s) given to mediocre and unattractive girls on the other rating subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 03:15 PM
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It's like how Republicans aren't as openly bad as Nazis but they do far more damage Uhhhh...Republicans do far more damage than the Nazis?.....
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 03:13 PM
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Well, you're a bigot. I'm just pointing out a fact. This is textbook bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 12:51 AM
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So you're a bigot.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 12:46 AM
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just as I'm sure men giving dating advice to women would be a disaster. No, it really wouldn't. "Don't be fat, and don't be a cunt" is all the dating women need.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 12:42 AM
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This is a selective response where you’re cherry picking particular elements of my relatively large response to get a quick “gotcha!” without actually addressing the core substance of what I said. Take the body language thing. Yes, body language is important. But the problem is that it’s ambiguous in many cases, and is thus an inherently problematic means of communication. This is why adult human beings do not primarily communicate via body language. You ask “why should I not not be expected to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/18 06:55 PM
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There's several problems with this. For one, why should I be expected to read body language? There's no reason a man should have to deal with being malevolently referred to as a "creep" by a woman because the woman chose to be deliberately vague by communicating via body language rather than being explicitly verbal about her attentions. This reminds me of the Aziz Ansari fiasco. If women want to be treated like adults, act like adults and say what you mean. Otherwise we will treat you like child…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 01:47 AM
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You need to keep in mind that when a guy approaches a woman, he has no way of ascertaining precisely what her boundaries are. We cannot read others' minds. If her social boundaries boil down to "if you're ugly, don't come near me", and creepiness is "violating her social boundaries", then in practice, creepiness is synonymous with being ugly, since what differentiates creepy behaviour from uncreepy behaviour in the eyes of the woman is not the behaviour per se, but how the person doing the behav…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 10:54 PM
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And some poor people become rich. That doesn’t mean it’s someone’s fault for being poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 08:08 PM
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Nothing like arguing with some guy whose trying to wrongly tell me how my own body works only for him to reveal that he’s never even touched a vagina. That’s silly. No, it's not silly. You can know about how someone's body works without having had sex. I doubt there's even a correlation there. Virgins tend to have higher IQs, and hence are, on average, more scientifically literate. The fact that you're using someone's sexual history to gauge their understanding of the human body effectively make…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 07:39 PM
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/r/IncelTears, /r/niceguys, /r/creepypms, /r/justneckbeardthings
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 07:11 PM
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something arrogantly incorrect about women or sex. Bait and switch. Your original claim was that virgins spout nonsense about sex and, given their inexperience, that is why they get mocked. But now you're extending this to women. In other words, you're claiming that virgins who criticize women deserve to get mocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 07:03 PM
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It’s ironic since feminists supposedly opposed to toxic masculinity shame virgins more than anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 05:59 PM
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You’re rationalizing bullying. You’re just describing a scenario that seems okay to you. But it doesn’t happen like that, and you know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 05:58 PM
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We shame them, but shaming them is getting less and less socially acceptable now, because sex-positivity. On the other hand, shaming male virgins is commonplace, ironically by the same feminists who so vehemently oppose slut-shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 05:55 PM
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It invalidates what you said because you’re insinuating (implicitly) that female virginity has the same sort of stigma that male virginity does.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 05:49 PM
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No, it’s certainly not a failure on their part. If you’re ugly, that is not your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 05:48 PM
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I'm a software engineer and I'd beg to differ. What does "having a few special interests" even mean? I can have interesting conversations with my coworkers with respect to numerous topics besides our job (e.g., politics). Compare that to your typical college slut who can't name the three branches of government. Ridiculous. What the fuck is interesting to you? Talking about fantasy football? Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 07:41 AM
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It's because intelligence isn't correlated with getting laid, fuckwit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 04:38 AM
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sperg out and talk incessantly about boring nerdy interests And that's the problem. You've framed the word "interesting" to constitute mere pointless and childish banter as opposed to intellectual conversation. Maybe for people like yourself, you know, faggots with an IQ of like 70, as well as your typical useless college thot, software engineers aren't interesting, but for anyone with modicum on intelligence, they certainly are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 03:12 AM
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Nice guys get laid plenty when they're interesting people. Nice guys who call themselves nice guys because there's nothing else interesting about them No, there is usually a lot that is interesting about them. This is a typical erroneous claim forwarded by feminists and BPers: that "nice guys" get rejected because they offer the world nothing except their niceness. I have yet to meet a nice guy that fits that description. Example: take a skinny, Asian software engineer at Google. Almost certainl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 11:47 PM
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A fuckboy isn't a fuckboy because of his ability to get laid, often in spite of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 07:42 PM
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I don’t generally get super invested in the morality arguments either because I just don’t care as much. If you don't care about morality arguments, do you get upset when incels advocate for rape? Have you not seen one of the many “sluts make bad partners” posts before? It's because the point is true. Sluts are bad partners. Why are posts like that bad, but posts talking about how "beta incels" are bad partners are okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 06:07 PM
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Yes, it's a debate sub, but we're more interested in debating the merits and ethics of the red pill/blue pill ideologies, as well as gender politics and human sociosexuality more broadly. Stuff like "Why is X attractive?" or "You're a bad person for preferring X" aren't really things which make for a good discussion. Asking why men prefer virgins is like asking why someone prefers bacon. You don't know why you like something. There isn't a logical argument for that. I mean, I guess we can delve …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 05:52 PM
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It is in the same category in the sense that it's a superficial but understandable requirement. Whether or not it's verifiable is orthogonal to whether or not, as you claim, men are "hypocrites" for preferring virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 05:49 PM
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It’s implicit that when people say men are X or women are Y, we’re only referring to strong (but not necessarily absolute) correlations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 05:40 PM
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You’re not expected to explain why you find X attractive and why you find Y unattractive. That’s not the point of this sub. What you find attractive is not something that you can justify with a logical argument. It just is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 05:38 PM
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No, it doesn’t. Sluttiness is female promiscuity. That is precisely why the word has a negative connotation. Male promoscuity does not have the same negative connotation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 05:36 PM
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No, it’s not hypocrisy. A short woman can date tall men, whilst refusing to date short men, without being a hypocrite. Likewise, a “slutty” man can retain a high SMV and strictly choose women with a low-n count to date without being a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 05:34 PM
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Your advice isn't always helpful. Think Aziz Ansari. Consensual sex turned into a sexual assault allegation. You do not gamble with these things. You can't expect men to be mind readers or pick up on vague and ambiguous "cues" from the woman. No, we don't want these "cues". We need you to be explicit. And if you're not explicit, you are not entitled participate in our social circles. A creepy dude isn’t attractive or unattractive, but rather overestimates basic friendliness as hitting on a girl,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 05:25 PM
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If men were concerned with what's best for men, women wouldn't even have the vote (let alone be working).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 04:41 PM
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Creepiness (and the related notion of sexual harassment) is vague. An unattractive man and an attractive man can do the exact same things, but only when an unattractive man does it is it considered creepy. Thus, "don't be creepy" is about as helpful advice as "don't be ugly".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 04:40 PM
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From the strict definition of "sexism", that is sexism. In this case, though, in light of things like #metoo and the general ambiguity as to what does and does not constitute sexual harassment, it's justified sexism. That said, there are definitely good women out there who I'd talk to. If I was working with Karen Straughan, for instance, I'd have no problem talking to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 04:38 PM
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Emotion is good, but it needs to be bolstered by logic. If I love a person, and the logical part of my brain agrees that the person I love is worthy of my love, that's great. If I love a person, and the logical part of my brain does not agree that the person I love is worthy of my love (e.g., the person is abusive), then that's not great.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 04:36 PM
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It depends almost entirely on your looks. It's very difficult for a 9/10 male to be "creepy". He would need to be particularly deranged, like he kill puppies in his spare time. On the other hand, a 1-2/10 male is considered creepy for merely attempting to conversate with women. Generally speaking (except for, again, extreme puppy-killing examples), "creepy" is a synonym women use for "ugly". The fact that creepiness is typically regarded as a behavioural trait allows them to avoid the implicatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 04:34 PM
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Well then then my SO should have thought about the fact that she's small before she decided to cheat. So why not beat her up?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 09:26 PM
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What if the dude is a lot smaller than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 08:48 PM
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Why not beat the spouse?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 08:17 PM
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This is something I disagree with. It absolves the woman of responsibility. She can go out and cheat, and if she is caught, her lover will be beat up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 08:13 PM
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Why would you be sad?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 08:12 PM
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It's not a woman that is at fault, but a merely time overlap. You started dating here a week or so after she broke up with her ex (who might as well be her 2nd), and then you two sleep together, she gets pregnant. This is just a convenient scenario for you to absolve the woman of wrongdoing. She is typically cheating and being deceitful.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 08:09 PM
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Paternity tests should never be necessary. You should be able to trust that the child is yours. If you can't, and you feel inclined to get a paternity test, that already suggests that there's a problem in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 08:08 PM
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What I described is just what leads me to believe it’s typically not this logical decision they are making. It’s the “ick factor” or something else, like you’ve said. We don't owe women a logical explanation for not choosing to be with slutty women, just like women don't owe us a logical explanation for not being with short men. Sexual attraction is alogical. In this particular case, though, it just seems that we can bolster our argument with relevant scientific data.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 07:59 PM
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Ie you don’t see RPers all saying younger women with less education are “red flags”, but this is also correlated with higher divorce rates RPers don't advocate for marriage. I don't think divorce rates are exactly a huge concern to them. I think the facts about marriage and female sexual history is most relevant to "typical" men who are looking to get eventually married. The idea that men are eschewing marriage with high n women because it’s logically safer to avoid them due to these stats is so…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 07:55 PM
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Solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 04:50 AM
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It's because they're conditioned to wearing make-up from society (which ultimately is composed of the adults they're interacting with, as well as cultural factors, e.g., what they're exposed to on TV). So the question is, why is there this particular cultural norm for women to wear make-up? Men certainly don't wear make up. Human beings have not evolved to wear make up. The reason this norm exists is because attractive women are valued in society. A woman's looks gets her places a man's looks wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 03:01 AM
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Of course. Women would still care about being stylish, and makeup is a big part of that. But they wouldn't care as much about weight or age. Hell no. I completely disagree. They certainly wouldn't wear make up. Make-up exists to bolster sex appeal. And it's quite powerful in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 11:48 PM
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Yes, but Reddit already knows this. It needs no repeating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 11:17 PM
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Men decide women's SMV/RMV, but women decide the female pecking order. And women care more about climbing the pecking order than they care about being attractive to men. Do women think men like high-waisted jorts, power brows and blue/purple lipstick? No, of course not. They just care more about looking fashionable (to women) than looking attractive (to men). High-waisted jorts are attractive (certainly better than, say, sweatpants), and men don't care particularly much about lipstick colour. Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 11:14 PM
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Make up is cheating, though. It's effectively deceit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 10:58 PM
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The frustrating thing to me is that women are allowed to judge men based on sexual history, but men are not allowed to judge women's sexual history. It is inappropriate to reject a woman with a high n-count ("slut-shamer, what's wrong with you, you misogynist"), but it is entirely appropriate for a woman to reject male virgins ("nice guys aren't entitled to anything, my body my choice muahahaha") .
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 10:12 PM
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Well, yes, everything pertaining to relationships is subjective. It ultimately boils down to human beings making decisions based on their preferences. The thing is that we cannot control most of these preferences. In other words, even though it is subjective, it does not mean that it is something that can be changed at whim. Moreover, subjective sexual desires, when they're fairly universal, do reflect a certain objective biological reality about the sort of partners people prefer. Everything el…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 10:08 PM
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No, it does. “If you let beta nerds get a shot in the big leagues”, the implication being that he is inherently beneath her and that she is simply being generous in dating him. That sort of thinking is toxic in a relationship. It suggests that the relationship would have failed regardless, and here she is conveniently listing reasons why he is at fault, and not being accountable for her failure to be a reasonable girlfriend. Frankly, OP comes off as a narcissist. She dated a ‘beta incel’ and she…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 08:52 PM
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Nothing. The problem is when you constantly think that your partner is undeserving of you because you are more attractive. That makes for an inherently unhealthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 08:20 PM
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Yes, of course most men get GFs. This is simply a mathematical issue. 100% of women can't have the top 20% of men in LTRs. Hence they settle. A lot. And they cheat. They cheat don't cheat merely because of a momentary lapse in judgement (this is what happens with men), but because they genuinely feel unfulfilled in the current relationship and are looking to get a better partner (hypergamy). The one thing that probably woke me up more than anything is seeing several posts on Reddit wherein men c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 06:05 PM
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Blue pillers are angry at unattractive men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 05:45 PM
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For one, spouting a personal anecdote is a bit irrelevant. The 80/20 rule is meant to be general. It is a general principle which reflects the preferences of most women. Your comment is a textbook example of female solipsism: the tendency to personalize every single discussion. Second, I'm aware that most men do indeed get laid. In this sense, the 80/20 rule is inaccurate. A whole lot of the guys in the 80 percent certainly become successful betabuxes who get monthly pity sex. Yet how many of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 05:41 PM
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this affects a small population, not the "average woman" It does affect the average woman because it provides an additional layer of safety net in case some sort of tragedy befalls the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 05:09 PM
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That's because the vast majority of cases of male sexual assault aren't even considered sexual assault. Even some of the most heinous cases of male sexual assault, like a girlfriend or wife chopping off a man's genitals, are dismissed by society (people joke about these sort of things).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 05:08 PM
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No, it's quite natural to give a shit. Knowing you're being settled for because you happen to have resources is devastating. Women will never be attracted to the man they marry the same way they were attracted to their younger bad boy lovers. Hell, they often won't even pretend to be. I've read numerous Reddit posts wherein men are upset their wife had anal sex with previous partners, but won't have anal sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 04:38 PM
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Is it that difficult to understand that women would prefer partners who don't regard them as mentally inferior sex-dispensers? Yes. Yes, it is difficult to understand. Genuine misogynists —wife beaters, abusers —get laid. The point for us is that misogyny, sexism, and other lovely qualities are very probably not helping your case when it comes to finding a partner: If you're already socially awkward or ugly, these views will likely make it much harder to get laid. A colder attitude towards women…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 04:08 PM
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Being unpleasant (which includes entitled, rude, douchey...) makes people not want to do things with you. This extends to women having sex with you No, it really does not. An attractive, masculine men can act entitled. He can go to a club or a bar and wantonly tell women: "you will have sex with me tonight", or something equally egregious, and he will still have a decent shot at getting laid. Whether or not that's an effective strategy is besides the point: the attractive masculine men will ulti…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 04:02 PM
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It's very understandable if you feel frustrated that you're a virgin. There is a massive stigma against men who remain virgins well into their twenties (and later). That said, over here most of us don't care. We don't believe that a man's worth has anything to do with his ability to get women. Women aren't entitled to that sort of power over men. If this is something that really bothers you, go to /r/TheRedPill for advice on how to get laid. Alternatively, pay a hooker.
/r/MGTOW27/02/18 06:25 PM
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That explanation is too simple because it disregards the fact that someone who's actually nice, instead of merely pretending to be nice, wouldn't be lashing out at someone merely because they didn't reciprocate their feelings in the first place. This is a myth. Few nice guys are nefariously pretending to be nice in order to sleep with women. And they don't even have to come up with reasons to demonize them. The fact that they react in such a nasty way is the reason. How exactly do they react? Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 04:18 PM
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Women complain about toxic masculinity, yet fuck the most toxically masculine men. Perhaps women shouldn't positively reinforce toxically masculine behaviour by rewarding it with sex. Feminists don't seem to be concerned about this. Ironically, they focus their vitriol on the least toxically masculine men: the niceguys™.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 03:45 PM
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In the 50s maybe. Right now women are encouraged to make their own money and be independent. You know this. I guess that's true, but they're not discouraged from leeching off a man either. Women truly have a choice here. If they don't want to work, they don't have to. A career is purely optional. For men, it is a necessity. Right. So if you marry a woman that has a yearly income of 100k, and you have the same, somehow you can afford the same things that you could with only one income? Sharing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 01:44 PM
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And what do you base this on? Personal experience? Basically, yes. Ok first off - if you allow a woman to leech of you, that's on you No, it's on society for suggesting that's to be the norm. Secondly - in a LTR, you do benefit from the other part having resources even if you can't leech off of them. Hypergamy. A man remains in the same financial class after getting in an LTR. A female doctor does not marry a male nurse, but male doctors might marry female nurses. You're picking at straws here. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 12:41 PM
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No, because the verb "looks" clearly implies that it is the woman's physical appearance being referred to. And using the adjective "virtuous" to describe a person's physical appearance is nonsensical. Replace "looks" with "is" in your sentence. "She is good". This is essentially equivalent to "[she] is virtuous", except "virtuous" slightly more explicitly highlights the moral aspects of her character.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 02:04 AM
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So absolutely no women bring this to the table? Not even Angela Merkel, Elizabeth Warren, SciBabe, Christina Hoff Sommers or hell - Cassie Jay? Not even Lindsay Shepherd has nothing interesting to say? The exception always proves the rule. The point isn't that women are not absolutely incapable of insightful interaction. The point is that a ridiculously large proportion of them are not, and the proportion of them that are not dwarfs the proportion of men that are not. Yes, I'm stereotyping. I wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 11:56 PM
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Pretty much this whole generation takes moral nihilism to be the truth, or a sort of moral subjectivity that might as well be moral nihilism Really? I thought that this generation was excessively moralizing....think SJWs/trigger warnings etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 09:30 PM
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Whatever it is that makes an adult want a half-grown child is a mental illness A teenager has historically been considered an adult. The very concept of adolescence is recent. Notice how the ages at which the Jewish Bar- and Bat- Mitzvah's, as well as the Mexican Quinceañera, occur. You can call it an egregious violation of the law, and a sickening abuse of authority, but being attracted to sexually mature human beings is not a mental illness. Some guys finish puberty at 15, as do many girls. An…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 08:19 PM
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The ability to have an insightful discussion about a non-superficial topic. Conversational skills which extend beyond gossip and complaining. Better jobs (some women have good jobs, but this is never a requirement). The ability to do trivial household tasks (e.g., something like killing a spider, which some woman are scared of doing, as well as, of course, cooking and cleaning). Humour. Being exciting in bed (e.g., being open to anal). Cleaning up after herself. Not being an excessive financial …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 03:32 PM
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Says common sense. People would typically say that men like Gandhi or MLK had good personalities, whereas men like Hitler had shit personalities. If you disagree, provide your own prospective definition of a "good personality".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 03:26 PM
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The top grossing movies every single year are based on comic books too. Marvel is mainstream. But nerds typically aren't focussed on Marvel comics anymore. Think anime instead. Almost every guy I know owns one of the latest generation game consoles and plays frequently. And women find that utterly unattractive. If they date a guy who plays video games, they date him in spite of that. Lol at talking about being a nerd as if it even matters in 2018. Everyone knows that kids in the math/chess club …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 03:25 PM
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I see mostly memes, satire and self-deprecation. Do you have a persecution complex?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 04:11 AM
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This is an ad hominem attack. You are attacking the person making the argument rather than the argument itself. Just like astronomers can study Jupiter without visiting it, I could, in principle, study female hypergamy without dicking a new slut every night. That said, perhaps I’m an oveweight 60 year old who hasn’t fucked in 20 years, but I used to be a Chad in my youth. Can’t really tell, can you? Your prejudice is really showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/18 12:34 AM
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young women in the west are outperforming men on almost every metric Which metric? Look at the tech companies. Look at the state of the art research that's done in any field (lesbian dance theory doesn't count). Look at who wins Nobel Prizes. Look at who succeeds in all intellectual endeavours (Chess is my favourite example. Chess professionals have a separate category called "woman grandmaster" for women who aren't strong enough to become actual grandmasters). It's men. It's all men. Every bric…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 11:10 PM
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Sometimes it is immoral. A woman who sleeps with a criminal is immoral. An accomplice to crime. A supporter of it. However, it is not usually motivated by malevolence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 08:41 PM
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"Ugh" lmao such a Becky thing to say
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 08:13 PM
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Yes. You can be good-looking. In which case your personality is irrelevant. Otherwise, to some degree or another, you have to be evil. Women love sociopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 08:13 PM
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No, that's unlikely. There's certainly different degrees to which a Chad may treat his bitch like shit, but the bitch is still ultimately treated like shit. If you treat a woman well, her pussy gets as dry as the sahara. They love being abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 08:11 PM
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Most women aren't with raging assholes who treat them like shit. True, some are with betabuxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 08:08 PM
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The point is true, though. Men don't need women in this world (except for reproduction). But women need men. They need men for everything. You are nothing without us.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 07:20 PM
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I do too, but not just because he is a saint and a philospher. If you see the way he talks to and connects with people of all backgrounds and beliefs, you'd understand why so many people listen to what he has to say. Okay but he's boring and a nice guy and therefore by your logic he has a shit personality. Wtf. And the facade is of a charismatic interesting person Many of them maintain the facade of a good person (in the sense that I defined the word). Ted Bundy, for instance, would have acted p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 06:43 PM
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Yes, it literally does. When has someone ever described a dull person as having a "great personality"? Have you ever heard the term "sparkling personality"? I think the Dalai Lama has a great personality. Consider an individual who's, say, a scholar. He is not particularly exciting. He's boring. Mostly stays in his office and does work. But he's able to have very insightful discussions with others on various topics (politics, say). He's also amiable. Such a person would certainly be considered a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 06:23 PM
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Ok, this is pretty confusing. You're not having any success, and you're framing this as a "general discussion". Yet you say things like: Sorry, you literally don't know me. The only thing you know about me is that I'm fat. Have I told you how old I am? Perhaps I'm 40 who used to game women in my twenties. The main purpose of this imaginary world is to create some sort of feeling of hope. When you create a world where you have some sort of control over the outcome, you're able to visualize how yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 06:13 PM
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The most moral person in the world could also be super boring to talk to or just all around irritating. Boring does not imply a bad personality. Einstein was likely boring. Most of the greatest minds, for that matter, have likely been fairly boring people. The antithesis of boringness, namely, excitement is something that young people look for. At a certain point, you grow out of that phase. At least people who mature effectively do. There's more to life than being exciting, cool and thrilling. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 06:06 PM
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That's all women, though. They bring nothing to the table except looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 06:01 PM
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So don't you think that maybe, just maybe... Being fat is what causes you not to succeed with women? And not all that other ridiculous stuff? Yes. Duh. I'm not talking about myself per se. This is a more general discussion. it's the fact that looks are extremely important to women Yes, of course. Personality matters most when you have average looks (I noted this in my original comment).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 05:57 PM
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No. I'm fat. That's a problem independent of my personality, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 05:44 PM
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The guys who will still have her even if she brings nothing to the table ? She brings nothing to the table except her looks. But her looks are a depreciating asset, and, moreover, they do not reflect an actual aptitude or accomplishment. Women can't actually do anything. The hole between their legs grants them everything they desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 05:43 PM
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A "Good personality" in terms of women means you have a strong sense of self Nerds have a strong sense of themselves. They might like math. They might like physics. They're passionate about it, pursue graduate school, publish research papers. They've forged an identity for themselves. They have a true sense of self. But they don't get laid: "eww, creepy Asian nerd, get away from me". Conversely, take your typical dope-peddling high school drop out. Does he have a strong sense of himself? Not rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 05:40 PM
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Women aren't looking for virtue. They're looking for a man. There's a reason "men" like Gandhi wouldn't get laid in modern America, and it's not just because of their looks. Ethics are a turn off. Women love excitement. They love their bad boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 05:28 PM
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but they have value in and of themselves No, they don't. If you treat a women ethically, you're mocked as a nice guy. It's pathetic and parasitic, and debases your masculinity. Treat her like a whore, and she will be your whore. Don't worry about ethics.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 05:26 PM
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This is fairly hyperbolic, you're certainly not saying that literally everything needs to be a lie. What sort of lies should be used? You can lie about your wealth and status, for instance. It's not moral to devalue yourself by placing women on pedestals. It's immoral to hold peers to higher standards than you hold yourself. If you're a normal, upstanding citizen, how do you treat others? You treat them with a certain level of kindness. You say "please" and "thank you". If you're walking into a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 05:22 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 04:06 PM
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so you have grown to adulthood without understanding the nuances of the word "good" in your own native language? Sorry, your denseness is ridiculous. You're the one who doesn't know what "good" means. The thing with English is that often times, there's exceptions to the exceptions. Yes, you can good in non-moral contexts, but in reference to a person's personality, you really can't. You don't seem to understand that, and think you can use "good" in any way you like in whatever context you like, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 03:43 PM
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Oh, that's simple. One such moral is telling the truth. Don't. You should lie to get laid. Another moral is treating women with excessive respect and empathy. No, treat her like a firm parent would treat a disobedient child. Be assertive, but not over the top. Be cold. Do not show emotion. Do not be her emotional tampon; she has beta-orbiters for that. If she's into you, slap her ass. Then she'll want you more. It is important to do these things within reason. It takes practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 03:38 PM
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Yes. Is it yours? Your grammar is shit, and you wantonly use derogatory colloquialisms like "sperg" in a serious conversation. You seem to be projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 03:34 PM
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In the context of a "good personality", this is not the case. The goodness of an individual's personality is inherently related to one's ethical values. One cannot argue that a serial killer has a good personality, for instance, regardless of how charming and charismatic he seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 03:30 PM
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thats the weird relationship to english words a lot of spergs, nerds and foreigners have Why are you insulting people with Asperger's syndrome? Bullying mentally ill people is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself. And why are you insulting nerds? What's wrong with being a nerd? Are you a bully? Are you in high school? You certainly don't seem like an adult. "good" in the interpersonal relations context means "good for the purposes of social success" and "all the traits associated with s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 03:29 PM
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i cant understand how weird nerds and incels translate "good personality" into moral, upstanding, righteous teetotalling "nice guy" It's because that is a good personality. A "good" personality inherently means a moral, upstanding, righteous one. Not necessarily teetotalling, but I mean abstinence from alcohol can't hurt. But good ≠ attractive. In fact, in many cases, good = unattractive Women tell these men: "You're a really nice guy, but you're just not my type. I'm sure you'll find someone". …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 03:12 PM
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If you're in college and you're looking to hook up, this is determined exclusively by looks. Personality is irrelevant. Chad can go to a party, find a girl he likes, slap her ass and she'll bit sitting on his dick in at most an hour. If you're looking for a relationship, then personality matters, but it doesn't matter in the way you think it matters, or in the way that women say it matters. Do not be a nice guy. Do not even try to be a good guy. Women might settle for the nice guys after riding …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 02:55 PM
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Sure, but I'm talking about labour intensive jobs in general (in the United States).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 10:30 AM
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The point is that they're rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 10:26 AM
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Sarcastic quips aren't arguments. The point he made is correct. Attractive women tend to seek thrilling men, and a decent chunk of these thrilling men are thugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 08:58 AM
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The idea is utopian and totalitarian, and like most other utopian totalitarian ideas, it will likely fail miserably if an attempt is made to implement it. I don't think it warrants serious discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 08:44 AM
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It has outed many monsters who have been ruining people's lives over the years. You mean women voluntarily have sex with these monsters in exchange for fame and fortune. That's making a calculated decision to throw away your dignity in exchange for success. It is now considered a workplace standard that women cannot really consent to their manager who is a man when it comes to flirting and even dating because of the major power dynamic in that relationship. What is "real consent", then? Power dy…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 11:43 PM
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I didn't think they were saying that 99% of the female population doesn't party, drink, or hook up. I think they were saying that 99% of the female population aren't sub-30 hot chicks partying and posting their pictures on Instagram. The fact that OP specifically mentioned EDM concerts, beach parties, and boat parties (rather than more common ways of partying, like house parties and bars) also reinforces the idea that they were talking about a really specific group. No, you're missing the point.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 11:25 PM
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What's interesting is that the contempt women have for men on the bottom (or, indeed, even the middle) of the dominance hierarchy is evidently independent of culture, considering this study was done in China. In other words, it's EvoPsych, not Western feminism. Perhaps this explains in part why women like Merkel and Clinton espouse a faux liberalism which ultimately harms the male working class.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 11:16 PM
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Does your college have any sororities? That's the place to look.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/18 02:48 AM
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That subconscious moment where you filter out 99% of the female population That's ridiculous, and you know it. Roughly 20-30% of young college-aged women fit that stereotype. (I'm saying this anecdotally as a college student. inb4 "anecdotes don't count" because obviously formal studies haven't been conducted on this).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 10:22 PM
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