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I think the wall we are running into here is that women understand stating these preferences as confrontational and rude, while men may understand it as “telling it like it is”. Saying you want a white woman with a great ass reads to women as objectifying and crass, like you are shopping for a car. Most (straight) women then have a hard time self-justifying their attraction to men, because it appears that all men care about is appearance, and few women want to end up with a man who views them th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:03 AM
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Men are more manipulative when dating, which is the whole point. There is no reason to manipulate their friends, because they rarely care enough about them to sustain a real relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:25 PM
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Do you date men often to have experience with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:25 PM
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Alpha widower
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 09:17 PM
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This does not indicate that male SMV peaks at a later age. This shows how advertisers in the 1990s valued male/female models at different ages. Ads were traditionally written by older men, who are sexually interested in young women and who relate more to other old men. They are likely to put a higher value on models they are sexually attracted to and relate to. One can argue that the advertisers’ biases are irrelevant as there work should be market/data driven, but the fact is advertising has si…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 11:50 PM
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precisely the picture most women on PPD paint when they talk about the kind of “respectful man with a cuddly dad bod they are attracted to” I have never seen a woman say anything close to that on this subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 10:32 PM
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Women who are partying do not represent the general psychological state of women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 06:26 AM
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FDS doesn’t claim that they are trying to move away from men. I will say there are some very jaded individuals in both spheres, and a lot of the reductionist/generalizing rhetoric in these places can have a damaging effect on readers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:50 PM
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The fact that this persons first impression was that MGTOW WAS about hating women does not bode well for the movement I went straight down the front page with my list
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:36 PM
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That is not true. At all. Maybe 25% of the posts were about how they found themselves there which usually included some negative experiences with women. The rest were about mens interests like working out, reading, travel, investing, etc. women were never the center of the MGTOw sub and if it started trending that way it was pulled back on track. The redpill sub was different and more negative. Lets see if this is the case: https://web.archive.org/web/20190120184356/https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTO…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:30 PM
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Which is because the woman was financially reliant on the man. If women could have been financially independent, they would (and are) responsible for the debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 07:26 PM
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Yes forced. Women could not open a credit card on their own, or prevent a second mortgage from being taken out, until the 70s and 80s. Even then society generally regarded women as inferior to men, so they got pressured into giving crappy men a chance. Many of those women would have rather been alone than been with the men they got stuck with. Which is why the majority of single women over 40 are not looking to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 04:27 PM
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I feel bad for the women who were forced into relationships with men they did not like or love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 07:52 PM
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You sure sound offended. Please calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 02:51 PM
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Children would be BOTH parents choices in a relationship circumstance, and chores are the responsibility of all adults in the household. In the majority of two parent households, both parents work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 09:48 PM
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Ok, I don’t really care about your anecdotes. On average, a 60 year old will have more health issues than a 40 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 11:18 PM
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55-60 year olds will have a lot more medical problems than a 40 year old. No one is going to opt to take care of a retired geriatric man while they still have to work another 15 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 07:55 AM
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Having individuals with a significant strength advantage who are (typically) much more prone to anger and violence is harder to deal with than some bitchiness. Crazy women will key your car, crazy men will kill their whole family.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 08:22 AM
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What country did this happen in? Your English is not very good
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 05:10 PM
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I do not think women generally prioritize relationships such that a bad one is better than nothing. If all the options are what she would consider to be bad, she would not date. There are other things to life than sex and relationships. A plus sized model is not hired to be attractive to men. They are hired to represent a different section of the female population and advertise to them. A male plus sized model would not be hired to be attractive to women. They would be hired to advertise to over…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 04:32 PM
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There are not significantly fewer women than men in the world, that is a horrible example. In a world with 3 men and 3 women ie, like roughly the population distribution of the real world, if a woman has sex with the three men and the other women have no sex, the average is 1 for all 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 03:58 PM
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Men are genuinely disturbed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:54 PM
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I do not think you understood my first point. It is not about women “setting unrealistic standards”. Women are genuinely not attracted, at any level, to many of these men. They are as attractive as men are to you. If the option was one of these men and nothing, they would pick nothing. What you are trying to do is to argue out of existence a biological reality. Women are not as attracted to men as men are to women, therefore there is no way men can experience the same level of female desire as w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:24 AM
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I think the two issues I have with this type of argument are that A) It overemphasizes the value (the majority of) women place on “getting sex” from a high SMV man, or ending up in a relationship with a guy who they do not like. Women have lower sex drives, so “sex with Chad” is not very valuable. Women do not want a relationship at all costs, and would rather be alone than with a man they are unattracted to. Men seem to prioritize things as attractive woman >> unattractive woman >>>> being alon…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 02:34 AM
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If you go onto a forum dominated by women (tiktok has more women than men) you will see mostly women complaining. If you come here, and look at one of the many subreddits that are male dominated (/r/tinder, /r/askmen, /r/mensrights, a large number of the meme or gaming or streaming subreddits), you will see men bitching constantly about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 01:57 AM
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No one wants to listen to a woman complain either. Women are told their whole lives not to be a bitch/nag/annoying/Karen. Men who constantly whine are just as tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 12:52 AM
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The studies you linked here are behind paywalls, all that is indicated is that college students have rough sex (and “most like it”), and that bisexual women are more likely to have rough sex. As far as OKCupid goes, selection bias plays a factor, no matter if it is a large group of people. Imagine if someone ran a survey to try and determine Americans’ sports preferences, and gave it to everyone who watched the superbowl. It would likely have a bias towards football, even though 112 million peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 05:39 PM
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Well are you looking for something casual or are you looking for a long term relationship that ends with marriage and children? I have never heard a woman say it was hard to get casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 05:06 PM
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According to Gallup, the more-than-seven-decade lead is driven by men's strong preference for sons. Over the years, men have preferred sons by an average of 25 points. This year, 43 percent of men prefer a boy compared to 24 percent who prefer a girl. The largest gap in preference among men was in 2000, when 55 percent said they preferred a boy and 18 percent preferred a girl. This year's 19 percent gap is the lowest since 1990, according to Gallup. Women are not as divided, with 31 percent want…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 03:47 AM
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One country being odd doesn’t void the fact that in every other place this is possible. I’ll revise my response: men, minus the men in France, can get a paternity test. The comment was about how it was degrading not knowing the potential paternity of the child. I pointed out in today’s world you could know for certain.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 01:11 AM
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Men can get paternity tests if they are worried their offspring aren’t theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 10:49 PM
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Women who watch porn may be more likely to consume more hardcore content, but women are far less likely than men to watch any porn at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 09:18 PM
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These threads the focus is always on raising women’s sex drive. Wouldn’t the converse be more viable? No drugs exist that raise women’s sex drives to the point it matches men’s. Lowering sex drives is already possible through a number of different drugs. In addition, lower sex drives mean less frustration, abandoned children, STDs, and probably fewer irrational decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 05:35 PM
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I think gay men deal with the impacts of porn on their sex life/get exploited by other men who are looking for just hookups. Gay men also may face shame/social stigma for hooking up with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 03:41 PM
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I don’t know, gay men have this same value proposition and from my understanding there is a more active casual sex scene. Looking at this survey I found, around 30% of gay men have had more than 30 partners, with the median being 16-20. I honestly believe most women are less horny than most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 05:06 AM
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Compared with virgins, men with more sexual experience are likely to drink more alcohol, attend church less, and have a criminal history. So: Using substances to lower inhibitions in communal spaces makes you more likely to have sex. Not believing in a religion which raises sexual inhibition means you have more sex People who commit crimes, which typically indicates they have low inhibition, have sex It seems to me this all backs the idea that the more you put yourself out there/the lower your s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 06:36 PM
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I think women “being picky” isn’t caused by worry about pregnancy/STDs/etc. That always struck me as a post hoc rationalization. I don’t see it as pickiness at all — women just aren’t that into sex, in general. There is a lower bar for satiation of desire. Its like if you are not hungry and someone offers you something to eat — unless it is something special, you will decline it, not out of pickiness, but out of a general lack of interest. Some/the majority of women walk around mostly full all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 12:57 AM
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The Horniness was a result of evolution and not an arbitrary vestigial trait. It allowed for more and more men to contribute to the gene pool. Now calling it a problem is like saying evolution is a problem I think you may misunderstand what vestigial means — Vestigiality is the retention, during the process of evolution, of genetically determined structures or attributes that have lost some or all of the ancestral function in a given species.. Eg, Kiwis evolved wings, because their ancestors use…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 11:12 PM
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That isn’t true. If we are talking specifically about marriage, the gender that had an option (men) would sometimes choose not to. For example, here are some notes Darwin wrote to himself on the pros and cons of marriage — https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/tags/about-darwin/family-life/darwin-marriage You should notice that a) many of the downsides are the same things we would worry about today — the necessity to bend to another’s will for example, and b) he considered “not marrying” a valid optio…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:35 PM
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Ok? But she didn’t give a story like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 02:29 AM
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Alright. I am not saying you have to like feminism. The only reason I commented was this: Also, I am going to doubt your story here given that men simply accused of rape, even when the story is literally impossible (UVA and Duke Lacrosse cases as good examples), have their entire lives ruined. It seems you are very rooted in the idea that you are on “Team Man”. I am going to propose that you would be better served to engage in conversation in good faith. This type of statement seems deliberately…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:17 AM
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Ok? So are experiences are different. You seem hell-bent on being as uncharitable as possible towards anyone but yourself. You were derisive towards the commenter earlier who shared her experience. You seemed to believe that she was lying because other women have lied before. The latter does not not imply the former logically. With no other evidence either way, how can your conclusion be anything but a reflection of your own bias?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:25 PM
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I have seen and been a part of good, independent discussions by feminists on issues men face — such as unfair sentencing, rape on men, and social expectations. It seems you mostly interact with feminist literature through the filter of your bias. No, they just straight up supported what she did. It’s obviously unacceptable to support admitted rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 05:42 PM
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Men getting raped is often only brought up when it can be used as a counterpoint to woman’s suffering. Your suffering does not negate her suffering. You get so angry about your rape being questioned, but then do the exact same thing to this woman. You have no idea who this person is and what her situation was and you dismiss her on the basis of her sex. Absolutely zero ability to feel sympathy or self reflect. The friends of your rapist probably felt that like you were lying and didn’t want to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:24 PM
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I first came across posts from the red pill when I was 13/14. As a young woman it gave me a lot of insight into the way men think and made me a lot less friendly/more suspicious of guys I met. Edit: If I’m honest, it probably hindered my ability to have healthy relationships with men because I became convinced that men did not think women were worthy of respect, and that it might be something inherent in their psyche. It also allowed me to put some pieces together on why some family members/frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:48 AM

Do you have any evidence for this claim, that specifically compares two parent households with “fathers who are abusive with no job” vs. single moms
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 12:37 AM
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I’ve always heard it in the context of whipped men, in a “happy wife happy life” sort of way
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 08:08 AM
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I watched my grandma take care of my grandpa/his dogs while he sat and ordered her around from the time I became self aware to the time he died. My mom is still married to my dad, and she was both the primary breadwinner of our family and also raised me and my siblings while my dad sat back and did the bare minimum. I’d rather die than be stuck in the same bullshit they were in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 01:49 AM
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Sounds like your cousin needs to learn something from FDS and work on his vetting
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 05:23 PM
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If you look at some of the subs focusing on gay men you will see that they have an easy time getting into ONS/FWB type relationships but a harder time finding people interested in relationships. In the study, its possible that the bi men messaging men might be more likely to be seeking sex than the bi men messaging women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:26 PM
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That isn’t STD “rates” that is a total number of people diagnosed. It doesn’t take into account the rise in population or number of tests administered
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 10:41 PM
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I like that you’re so wholly unable to actually engage with what I’ve written that all you have are internet catchphrases and straw men (you think men get roses!!!!!!). How about this: when women take away men’s right to vote, have a bank account, decide who they should marry and fuck and how they should dress, and then decide men are unable to take account for their behavior because they are inferior beings, we can come back talk about privilege and oppression, k?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:52 AM
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I’d love for you to point to the section of my comment where I said men get roses
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 11:57 PM
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Women are kind to each other in real life. Lots of men are unkind to women whenever they feel they can get away with it. There is a reason why women in society have gotten increasingly hostile to men’s advances. Now it’s evident what’s in men’s heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 11:51 PM
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You are missing the overall point of the comment. It’s not “ohh but women do it too!” It’s not about just porn. It’s reading men’s thoughts on women. Think about the internet 8 years ago. All women are attention whores, women belong in the kitchen, women should suck my dick, women “friend zone” me manipulatively when they should fuck me, women should grow a thicker skin when someone tells them to show their boobs or make a sandwich, women only pretend to like video games and on and on and on. Im…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 09:15 PM
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