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At least we know it isn't that you seem like you are an asshole, you just are one. Goodbye.
/r/MensRights17/04/18 05:59 PM
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If you had love in your heart you would understand it's value. If you felt love in your heart right now none of this conversation would have happened. you fundamentally misunderstand the nature of it, and that is because you yourself do not feel love. I was hoping you'd see it in a more loving manner, but it does explain your attitude. Atheist I'd presume. That's the type of response that makes you look like you have never experienced it, or have currently forgotten the feeling at least. A child…
/r/MensRights17/04/18 05:22 PM
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No offense taken. I tried, not very well, to point out a couple of phrases that were attacks against my person instead of my position. Things like that distract from the conversation and frankly make you sound like an asshole. Those types of attacks are very typical of my experience conversing with religious viewpoints so I was prepared but it is fatiguing to not respond with my own biases. We all have our limits and I know when I'm close to just being an ass for the sake of being an ass. Thanks…
/r/MensRights17/04/18 03:59 PM
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So..you want a definition of love that is cold and without love? For what purpose? You can't define something by itself, a definition of love implicitly must be absent of love. That's what a definition is. How would a person describe the beauty of nature? An audiovisual stimulus that inspires feelings of grandiose, awe, peace, oneness and comfort (insert whatever feeling suits you). See it is easy. How would they describe the love they feel for their child? An intense desire to do everything pos…
/r/MensRights17/04/18 03:28 PM
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I didn't say you were wrong; please refrain from putting words in my mouth. Your description is feeling without understanding; it's an experience not a definition. Which is a great starting point because we learn from experience. But flowery language is used to conceal the absence of content. If you can't explain a concept without it you don't understand the concept. A deep understanding allows for concentrated language. Concentrate your thoughts and feelings into a simple definition. A child co…
/r/MensRights17/04/18 02:30 PM
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Yeah I didn't ask how love makes you feel or fluffy meaningless examples. I asked for a definition of what love is. Try again and leave out the delusions.
/r/MensRights17/04/18 02:09 PM
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I was purposefully generic because love isn't something that is defined by a single relationship. You don't have to think it is a really awesome description for it to be accurate. If you find it to be inaccurate please elaborate. Please share your definition that covers all forms of love.
/r/MensRights17/04/18 01:26 PM
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If you ever had love in your heart you would not have to ask what love is. (See how shitty that is?) I'd say there are multiple types and degrees of love, but could be generalized as a selfless interest in something or someone.
/r/MensRights17/04/18 12:42 PM
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Not exactly. The acts of love are unconditional, whether or not you act is. You can quantify the acts as love if you'd like, but I'd call them a manifestation of love not love itself. Love is conditional, its manifestations are not.
/r/MensRights17/04/18 03:14 AM
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I wouldn't phrase it as placing conditions on the love rather recognizing that love needs a proper environment to exist. That environment is the conditional aspect of love e.g. if a relationship is abusive it is not going to sustain feelings of affection. To clarify, I'd like to make the distinction between a selfless act and the existence of love. A singular selfless act is given unconditionally, so an expression or act of love is unconditional. It is given selflessly. Love is not a single act …
/r/MensRights17/04/18 01:08 AM
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I agree with your examples provided the appreciation is shared and the care is selfless. Can you love another selfishly? I don't believe you can. If you can't love others selfishly, why can you make an exception for yourself? I chosoe not to make that exception.
/r/MensRights16/04/18 11:16 PM
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You can have positive, good feelings about yourself they aren't inherently selfish or narcissistic. I wouldn't jump from 0 to narcissism over bathing regularly, but if you become the object of your own affection what else do you call it? Regardless, you can't share feelings with yourself because that's not how sharing works. You can't perform selfless acts for yourself because that's not how selflessness works. You can't love yourself because that's not how love works. So, is love inherently sel…
/r/MensRights16/04/18 10:51 PM
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It's not. Nor did I say it was. You are trying to conflate self preservation and self interest with love. I ignored the metaphor and explained the distinguishing feature. Selflessness. One example has it while the other does not. Love is selfless. We can agree to disagree on this point if you wish.
/r/MensRights16/04/18 10:33 PM
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Love is shared. Love is selfless. There is a giver and a receiver. You don't share with yourself, you share with others. You don't love yourself, you love others. "Loving" yourself would be inherently selfish and self-serving. It's nothing more than emotional masturbation. It might feel good but it isn't a substitute and shouldn't be conflated with the real thing.
/r/MensRights16/04/18 10:24 PM
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Should a man make sure he is properly hung? I really think this is personal preference up to each individual, and not sure why you were so insistent on an answer. Should a man make sure he is regularly cleaned? Yes, I think proper hygiene is important. Edit: in more seriousness my question was your answer. I'm not sure if you failed to understand how or chose to ignore it.
/r/MensRights16/04/18 10:06 PM
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Is sustaining yourself selfless?
/r/MensRights16/04/18 09:58 PM
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I thought you'd eventually go to an inanimate object as an object of love which is why I said two parties not people. Love must be shared, it requires action. A man shows his love for his art by maintaining it, making sure it is properly hung and regularly cleaned. If he just thinks to himself "I love this thing" but does nothing to preserve it, does he truly love it? I'd argue he does not. A man cannot express love to himself because love must be shared. Love is selfless. You can cloud your ver…
/r/MensRights16/04/18 09:46 PM
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Yes. I would define those feelings as narcissism not love.
/r/MensRights16/04/18 09:06 PM
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If you felt love in your heart right now none of this conversation would have happened. Again projecting onto me. You do not know anything about my experience so I assume you are speaking from yours. I did not say love a personal experience, I said everything is, for without your personhood you are nothing. Would you deny that? We experience everything through self. That does not mean we can experience everything though self alone. Love requires existence outside of self. I simple don't know wha…
/r/MensRights16/04/18 08:37 PM
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You seem to be projecting on to me a great deal. Please re-read what I have written and note that intentionally left my positions ambiguous to type of relationship and role within a relationship. If you want to be loved or share your love with another person how that love is received is essential. If you only care about how loving or being loved makes you feel it isn't selfless and it isn't love. It is selfish and it is narcissistic. Love is the desire to improve the experience of those it is di…
/r/MensRights16/04/18 07:22 PM
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You can live in your joyous delusion all you want, but try to understand when people want love they don't want your delusion they want real shared human experiences.
/r/MensRights16/04/18 06:12 PM
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It's a wonderful thing to love yourself. You feel great, your health is improved, your energy is up. See, I'd argue you're the one that is looking at it with a question of what's in it for you. You can have all these warm fuzzy feelings in your head and let it make you feel better, but in reality that is all in your head. You aren't making anything better you are just serving your own happiness. That isn't love. It's narcissism.
/r/MensRights16/04/18 06:02 PM
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I'm looking at it from a pragmatic perspective. If love is not shared what value does it hold? If it has no value then it might as well not exist. You can having feelings of love for lots of people, if those feelings are not shared they don't exist to anyone but you. If people do not receive the benefit of another's feelings then they are not truly loved. Feelings in someone's head don't make the world a better place, action is required.
/r/MensRights16/04/18 05:40 PM
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His example was bad, but affectionate love is conditional. Perhaps affectionate is the wrong word, but people want to feel loved not told they are loved. In order to feel loved there must be something given by the other party, that could be gifts, time, physical affection, kind words, etc. If people can't perceive the love it is meaningless to them; love unexpressed isn't love at all. We all know there is a honeymoon phase in relationships in which love is given unconditionally. We also recogniz…
/r/MensRights16/04/18 04:54 PM
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Same way they stop felons from possessing firearms. They don't. If they ever find evidence that they do then they arrest and throw them in jail again. They won't do anything to prevent him from using a computer, but if there is ever any evidence that he did (even a picture of him on one) they'll arrest him and he'll spend a long time in jail for violating his parole.
/r/MensRights20/09/15 06:56 PM
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