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Because they think cowardly running away means they won. But here is the thing, what is the difference between someone not caring and someone that does care? When someone doesn’t care, they will be outcome independent because the end result will not matter. They will be more likely to engage you and admit you are right then someone who does care. And they especially will never say things like “ok,” “nobody cares,” “nobody cares if you get x” or just flat out ignore you. Those are signs someone d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 11:57 AM
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Because I am human
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:58 AM
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Women do. Men who “compliment each other” and such are labeled as gay (which women still use as a insult to this day) and are treated as lower value. If men refuse to meet women’s unhealthy and unrealistic standards, he just does not get anything. I mean, this is the equivalent of blaming women for men wanting Victoria secret models.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 11:27 PM
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Because men are actually following the advice they are given, women just feel entitled to getting the man they want. So we see men spending years getting better and better to be worthy of his equal counterpart while his equal woman counterpart is just living for herself. He hits the gym, is working on his career, is becoming more attractive, more confident, more secure, loving himself more, becoming more entertaining, etc. While she is just entertaining herself, enjoying hedonism, getting less a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 01:31 PM
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Yep. Men who are more feminine will have shitty lives as a man. Women who are more masculine will have shitty lives as a woman. We should really just accept feminine man and masculine woman. I have a theory that most people struggling at dating are just people who never could fill there traditional roles well as they were more fit to fill the opposite role. All of there faults (lack of self-care, social anxiety, looks, insecurities, bitterness, etc) is the result of never fitting in with there g…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:41 PM
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Tbh, those are boomers. “Sexy people rule the world” is more of a younger generation thing. Men like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and George Lucas are being replaced by either hot younger people or Children who inherited there boomer parents stuff. For Boomers, all that really mattered was hair and how much money you had.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:35 PM
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Men’s standards are just as bad. We expect men to have a anorexic level body to have a six pack and we do not have any body positivity and people reassuring us that we are attractive as we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:33 PM
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Expecting women to follow the same advice that people here give men is “delusional?” Lol. All I am really telling women to do is take responsibility for there dating lives as men are already being told to do and are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:28 PM
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Which is why I am hated in the first place honestly. My entire point is that women need to put in effort EQUAL to what people here keep telling men to do. Misandrists are just mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:25 PM
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People really hate me when I treat women like men’s equal lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 12:25 PM
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Modern dating just sucks for everyone. We really need community sponsored “single mingle events” for singles to meet up and look for dates in a no-pressure environment. Right now, most people cannot meet there perfect match as they have no idea how to even meet each other. The best chance is college, but that is only a brief window and most people are not mature enough to know what they want at that point anyways. The best chance people have is to go out and enjoy activities they like by themsel…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:40 AM
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That is because all the “just go outside bro” advice is bullshit. The truth is that women are just as inactive, unconfident, unattractive and as much of a shut-in as the men they shame are. They rely on men finding them, but put no effort in to get a good mate while complaining that it is men who are the ones who are not making the effort or putting themselves out there (along with other projection and gaslighting attacks). Women expect the men they want to somehow find them when they are at hom…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:19 AM
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No, it just that older women are less attractive and have worse options. (Same with younger men). Most people who are single take a “I am not fired, I quit” mentality. Even among mgtow this type is incredibly common.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:00 AM
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They can, most just go for someone a few years younger for relationships because of experience gaps and social shame. Dating a hot 20 year old sounds nice until they open there mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:59 AM
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What are you taking a body? It looks like you are arguing with people who do not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 09:57 AM
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Why do some women not want to be feminine? Same answer. The Masculine role sucks in many ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 02:48 AM
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“If people who are working at a meh job are bitching daily about there job, how are they better off then working a shitty McDonald’s job?”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:55 PM
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No, they definitely don’t. Even the people in the op do not refer to it as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:09 PM
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Perhaps, but I see us going more of the Herbivore man route. Men will just burn out more and more from dating and be less interested in pursuing women. Opting to have fun playing video games and the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:41 PM
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It is the equivalent of the Madonna whore complex, it is objectifying and should be looked down upon. It is using one men for sex and fun, the other for resources and security.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:39 PM
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No, people are only honest about indirectly. Like everything in op touches upon it, but never is rest fully honest about it. Saying af/bb directly gets you a lot of hate and “that is not true” when it obviously is. Mostly because it is framed negatively (because t is).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 07:24 PM
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More like you need money/status/fame.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:39 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:38 PM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 11:49 AM
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You are not improving yourself to improve some arbitrary value, you improve to make yourself more compatible with others. Because becoming more buff and rich is about becoming more compatible lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:42 AM
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Yeah, seriously. This girl is a 8 or 9 out of ten…and it is men that apparently overvalue themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 11:26 PM
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It matters more then people like to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 10:09 PM
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Because he fucks and loves them far more then he has ever done for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 09:45 PM
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Yep. Men are honest though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 07:02 PM
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No, I definitely am not. Sex is a major part of romance, trying to remove it from the equation is the equivalent of trying to remove the other aspects of romance and just leaving the sex component. It just ends up being exploitative. Aka romance without sex is just one person pampering the other. You cannot have one without the other. So ofc romance will have sex involved and someone is going to try and have sex at the end of it. That is literally the climax of romance. It is also one element of…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 05:59 PM
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Mostly how attractive he is to her. That really is all it is. It is all controlling in actuality, but it is all about how much they want to forfeit there own control for them. So a women will give one hit man all he wants, but then refuse to do any of that for a less attractive man she marries. And this is gender neutral, men will deal with a lot of shit they will consider “abusive” for a hot woman who fucks them the way they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 12:54 PM
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Uhhh, yes it does. When you say that someone needs to “improve themselves” to become good enough to date, you are doing just that. You are just being intellectually dishonest and it is hurtful. If I cannot buy something I want because I am 5 dollars to short to buy it and you say “well nobody is demanding you get more money to buy it, the shop keeper just did not want to sell it to you” that doesn’t change the fact that the issue is they just didn’t bring enough money. It is the same thing here,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 12:48 PM
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If others also want to become more useful for you is that a bad thing? If I demand others become more useful to me to become “worthy” to me, that is a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 11:35 AM
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Sex is a major part of romance. If you are not getting sex, it isn’t romantic but exploitative.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 11:13 AM
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Women at their peak aren't really interested in jaded middle aged men with kids and an ex wife. More then you think. Not really. No one's making men marry anyone they don't want to. You kidding? There is and always has been stupid amounts of pressure on people to ge them to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 10:57 AM
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Why do you think the shame is so intense against age gap relationships? Right now, we have incredibly low marriage rates and society is pushing really hard to get men to marry women whom they really do not want. They just ignore there standards and marry her out of desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 10:43 AM
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No, I was showing why the previous posters analogy is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 10:28 AM
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It is more that nobody cares when men protest and such. People only care about what men want when it starts negatively impacting them personally. So men get shit by striking, rioting and such like that. Starting a body positivity movement will not do anything. It is just like with men’s mental health. Nobody cares about a man’s mental health, even when he kills himself. They only care when they are afraid he will hurt others. And even then, it is about preventing them from hurting others or atle…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 10:26 AM
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Because it is not “self-improvement” it is about becoming more useful for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 10:21 AM
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Sigh, our nature is all about breeding at all cost too. Animal males are suppose to manipulate, rape and other sick and twisted things in the animal kingdom. Hence why we made civilization to end said toxicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 10:20 AM
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The truth is a pretty effective method to do just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 01:12 AM
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This is not a “CMV” post. This is just another attempt to gaslight kind men with intellectual dishonesty once more. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/sfioe8/comment/huqxbg1/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 We already have COUNTLESS studies here, including threads just filled with studies showing that women do not like nice guys, prefer bullies, etc. Even one of the studies you linked admits that “more disagreeable” men are more successful (read: the opposite of…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:12 PM
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Yeah, that is bullshit. There is no evidence of men wanting women out of there league. The only evidence we have of someone dating out of there league is women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:02 PM
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“Self-improvement” is about Becoming more useful to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 07:07 PM
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That or downvoted and bullshitted into oblivion. They try triggering the man and then use that triggering to make him look bad via manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:31 PM
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And you think that will make them ever stop complaining or stop suffering the consequences of them not getting what they want. Many cultures are having bad food shortages right now. Did having even a logical explanation why they There are many protests, riots and even rebellions going on right now because of these food shortages. Prime ministers have been forcibly overthrown. Do you think telling them “there is just not enough food for y’all lol” is going to do anything? This is a world of actio…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 02:26 PM
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In America, we expect men to be steroid using, anorexic body builders to be equal to average slightly chubby girls. Which is the equivalent of demanding women be anorexic Victoria secret models. And yes, the USA is pretty damn miserable. We are a selfish culture that act like abusers are victims and blame real victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:53 PM
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You learned the reason why telling men to “improve” themselves is toxic and objectifying. We keep telling men to change while demanding men accept women for who they are. Even if it works, the man in question will never be able to enjoy the success for he realizes it is all fake. If she could love him, why did he have to change everything that he is to be someone else to be worthy of supposed love? We want men to become perfect to accept women for who they are and get the privilege of sacrificin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:46 PM
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No, men should definitely complain and will continue to do so. Denying someone what they want has consequence of them never being satisfied until they get what they want. You are going up to poor people and telling them to accept being poor. Will never happen. Will not love crime rates, will not make them less bitter, will not make them be silent. If you want someone to stop complaining about not getting what they want you either give them the means to get what they want or get them to stop want…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:38 PM
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But we always will. Attraction is sexist, racist and every other form of bigotry you can think of.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:36 PM
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…what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:35 PM
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No, it isn’t. We just like pretending we are better by being more polite about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:34 PM
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Men are not women, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:34 PM
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Yeah, no
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 01:00 PM
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Everyone objectified each other. It literally is what attraction is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 12:59 PM
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So you think women are forced to have sex with men and become sluts?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 12:18 PM
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No, it is just because men instinctively find innocence more attractive for LTRs and promiscuity as unattractive for LTRs. Why? Because they are better marriage partners. They are better mothers, less damaged, less risk of cuckolding, less risk of her loving another man, more fun, etc. I could go on. Statistics on n count show that virgins make the best partners too. Least likely to divorce, most satisfied in marriage, least likely to have drug addictions, least likely to have mental health issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 10:08 AM
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Confidence, strength, value, work ethic, funnier, etc. And I think height is the better example here as men cannot control there height. Short men are literally demonized as creepy for just being short.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:57 AM
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Women expect men to react positively to be fetishized all the time. Demanding men be tall, have a big dick, be a anorexic body builder whom make 6 figures and use them for there resources/dick. Demand men play stupid games, be confident and other shallow shit. And I know, women will try to womansplain away by acting like they do not do this…but they do and men feel it and know it. But when men do the same it is somehow evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:54 AM
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There is no reason to warn a tall, muscular men either. A short stubby dude can just pull out a gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:50 AM
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Tell me, how can a man grow 5 inches.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:49 AM
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Yeah, no. That isn’t what I saw. And let’s be real, people always act like men do not have to die protecting women/society, until we actually need them to die and then they all conveniently forget that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:48 AM
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Nah, man. We got throw ourselves at them and die.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 08:03 PM
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Yes, clients of sex workers do fall in love with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 08:01 PM
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I literally said no amount of empty shame is going to work lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 08:00 PM
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I literally said no amount of empty shame is going to work lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:36 PM
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We literally releasing oxytocin during sex. That is the love hormone. It is also the same chemical that makes a mother fall in love with her own child.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:36 PM
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Men bond too, it just makes a nowhere near as strong. The best way to make a man love you is cuddle with him a lot though. That is when men release the most oxytocin.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:31 PM
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We literally fall in love with everyone we sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:29 PM
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Note that women’s perspective on men’s preferences are never in good faith. They are about manipulating men to try and get them to accept a worse deal. Men do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:29 PM
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No, I am just not going to die for another out of some misguided “duty.”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:11 PM
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Which is why deadbeat losers have the most kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:11 PM
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Sorry, but no amount of empty shame is going to get me to stupidly sacrifice my life because it is my “duty” to die to protect women. And I will always wear shame with pride, it is proof that I am right.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 07:10 PM
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There is no test, there is no strongest. All there is, is pure raw chaos. Natural selection is an outdated idea that doesn’t hold up in modern science circles. It only looks that way for the randomness is biased towards strength because we live in an environment of scarcity. Often the least fit are the ones that win and the species dies out that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:55 PM
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Your last paragraph exposes your internal bias. No, it shows a real possible result that actually happens. He was talking about a woman he loves and wants to protect from harm. I'd argue that anyone in love regardless of gender would want to do that. You'll find plenty of women who want no harm to come to the men they love (if you chose to look beyond your echo chamber). He isn't talking about going out and defending just any woman. Same thing. She is a strong and independent women who can prote…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:51 PM
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Which is why I have to say this shit. I do not care if so am downvoted to oblivion or suppedly “upset” about this shit (seriously, who wouldn’t get heated with how sexist it is). This is literally the most sexist bullshit that will probably ever be posted on this website. It is only seen as okay for misandry is accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:47 PM
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Evolution is pure chaos and randomness. There is no reason. Humans could all die off tomorrow and evolution would not care as there is no plan, purpose or reason for us to exist at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:45 PM
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No, society is not entitled to it’s citizens support just because.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:44 PM
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I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:34 PM
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So all relationships are two helpless victims getting together…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 06:33 PM
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Why would a man want to be in a relationship with a helpless victim?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:24 PM
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This thread is filled with people believing that men have to die for women while women’s duty is to provide basic polite HIiis and give occasional sex to her man. Yeah, there is no reasoning with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:17 PM
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Sadly, it looks like op cannot directly answer your question in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:49 PM
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Why does it matter if society suffers? This is a forum where people constantly say “why should women care about society?”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:46 PM
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God doesn’t exist and nature is just pure chaos.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:45 PM
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Refusing to risk our lives to get involved in situations that do not involve us is not murder. It is not our responsibility or business to protect others unless we sign a contract or accept said sacrifice selflessly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:40 PM
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Then the same can be said for all men who remain in the US after age 18. They chose to remain here to potentially suffer and die for their country. You are being intellectually dishonest. That is not an active choice. Women pick to get pregnant, men do not pick where they are born. And every single man who enlists or works as a public servant, security guard, lifeguard, EMT, firefighter. They aren’t heroes, they chose to risk life and limb for the benefits. Yep, and they end up in the street and…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:39 PM
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I did. Men do not have to sacrifice or do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:33 PM
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Actually, I do believe that women should also do things for their men. It is a two way street. Riiight. Let’s see what superficial bs you believe women must sacrifice. For example making sure to greet her man when he leaves for work. …that didn’t take long and was much worse then I expected. Saying bye to someone you love is a duty now? Lol. Or when she is home first to welcomingly greet her husband when he also arrives home. Or to say hello? For women, I suppose even simple things like a kiss b…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:33 PM
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No, it is. Just because you do not like my counter argument because it is right, doesn’t mean it is off-topic lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:22 PM
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If I have to risk my life to protect women from there own poor decisions to get sex, then I would rather be a incel. But really, “Cowards don’t get laid” lol. Cowards get laid all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:21 PM
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That is not a sacrifice, that is a personal choice that women make because they want to be mothers for the benefits they give. Even sacrificing for your own personal child is a innately selfish act. They are your legacy, your future.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:19 PM
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I am not mad, I am just telling the truth that you do not want to hear. Men do not have any duty to women at all. Men who sacrifice for women are doing so selflessly as a gift to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:15 PM
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No, she is not entitled to anything. We live in a world where women can cheat on her husband with a deadbeat, divorce her man, scar there children for the rest of there lives and then have her man pay for it via child support and alimony. We live in a world where she can deny her man intimacy, abandon all her “duties,” commit paternity fraud and make him pay for it. I could go on, but you get the idea. If a man decides to die for his wife (or whatever), then that is a SELFLESS act that she shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:13 PM
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Nah, you do not understand. When it comes to women, it is “why should she care about society?” When it comes to men, “he must die so she can go home and suck some other dude’s dick” Men reading this, do not be a useful idiot for women. We are equal, it is her job to defend herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:07 PM
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Do you believe that women have to sacrifice anything for men equal to that then? Or is your misandry something you take pride in?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:06 PM
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Then they are bigots and will be shocked to find themselves being punished because of there selfishly righteous actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:03 PM
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Better to be a coward then a useful idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:03 PM
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Because it is a different subject. It is like saying “how are we in a recession when companies are desperate for workers?” They are unrelated subjects. Women get shamed for having sex because men find women with higher n counts as less attractive while women do it because they want to prevent other women from sleeping around. It has nothing to do with sex being treated as a gift to men, a gift that men must earn and should be thankful to receive. And the misandry of it. Shaming women for having …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 03:36 PM
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As a former Catholic, I will note the real problem is that the church has become a joke among younger groups. People use it as a way to just escape responsibility via god’s forgiveness over actually being religious. So women tend to leave the church after they hit puberty and do not returned until after they are done with the CC. Even when they are still in the church this is true. And the ones that stay end up just riding the CC and then asking for forgiveness over and over until they are done …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:33 PM
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You can't judge past morality from our own. …what? They were all breaking there own morality in there time too. Unless you think Rape was seen as okay when Bill Clinton was in office, Bible thumpers breaking all the Ten Commandments were not breaking the moral code of there time, Abe freeing the slaves to cripple the souths economy so the north could economically dominate the south for the foreseeable future and shit like that is “morally okay” lol. That's Presentism, and it's a very clear indic…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 01:55 PM
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Misandry is not real. “I rationalize it is okay to have a irrational hatred of men.” Men do. Every day of our lives. And women do not?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 01:42 PM
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More goal post moving. You're missing the point. What's pathetic isn't valuing kindness (when did I ever say that?) You did but you do not like being caught with your pants down. but allowing kindness to be the sole determining factor in whether someone is found attractive. What are you taking about? Trying to change the entire discussion to something else to try and save face will definitely not work here. It is bullshit that women can "just be kind" and that's what makes them attractive. No, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 01:10 PM
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Oh really? So all the great heroes and leaders of the past who had charisma were toxic people that doomed their societies, is that it? Ummm almost all of the great heroes and leaders of the past were scumbags. Rapists, slave owners, abusive, manipulative, hypocrites, etc. you name it. Ghandi, America’s forefounders, Abe Lincoln, you name him and he/she was a piece of shit. Even more modern leaders are pieces of shit. Like cmon, Bill Clinton is a legit rapist that was accused and everything. Hila…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 01:04 PM
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It is the same effect that money, attention, fame, sexual success and such have on people at the top of the chain. Well, once you understand that it is all bullshit, it stops being something to strive for and you start to disrespect and resent everything involved. It is why celebrities tend to drown in drugs and are not that happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:55 AM
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Or just mature and realize that relationships women are not important enough to change who you are for them. If they like you for you, great. If not, fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:52 AM
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Incels are emotionally traumatized for various reasons, so they tend to be too extreme, bitter and miserable. In a way, they are right. They probably were bullied really hard (read: emotionally abused), had repeated failures and there bitterness is the result of life spanking them over and over again. Trying to blame incels for being bitter, anti-social, etc is like trying to say the reason a man lost is because he is slow. But the the man is slow because his legs were tied up at the start of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 11:51 AM
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As yes, the classic move the goal post and then empty shame move. “Nobody likes kind people, they need to be something else.” “Actually, kind women are attractive just for being kind in societies and men’s eyes all the time. “That just means men are pathetic and lack self-control lolololol.” There is also so much more wrong with this argument outside the blatant goal post move too. Men valuing kindness, submissiveness, purity, meekness and other traditionally feminine traits they biological are …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 10:31 AM
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charisma, confidence, willingness to take risks, 'darkly handsome,' etc., with "cockiness and asshole behaviour." Charisma and confidence is just frame manipulation and arrogance. So yeah, it is “cockiness and asshole behavior.” These are not virtuous traits to have and cultures that worship these traits always end up incredibly toxic and selfish. It is why “the meek shall inherit the earth” is a common virtue throughout all of history. “willingness to take risks” is not attractive. Women love i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 10:08 AM
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No, women want total pieces of shit because they think that is the type of man who becomes successful and wants him to give her access to all of his shit for free. That is what they mean by kindness and why men get confused. Aka they want a pure selfish dark triad bad boy who is kind to them exclusively.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:59 AM
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Hes/she is just trying to gaslight and victim blame incels because he/she is a misandrist. So logic does not really apply here. He/she is just going to say incels are not “nice” or that it is so important that it doesn’t matter to dehumanize them to make the rest of his/her bs rationalizations feel justified. Just read this shit again However, incels by and large are anti-social weirdos who barely go outside and act like autistic cornballs in real life which affects their success way more than h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:48 AM
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Who knows if incels are assholes or not? There is no way to tell. Even potrayals of pure good people get bitter, anger, frustrated and vent. Fuck, even Jesus (a symbol made to be perfectly good, loving and kind) trashed a church out of pure rage and bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:46 AM
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This is a people, not a women thing. What people say and feel in general is worthless, actions is all we can go by.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:43 AM
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how is it misandrist if only women are shamed for it? They aren’t. You are just hyper focusing on women in this dynamic. Men are shamed and hated all the time because they are not given enough sex to appease societies standards. That they are not worthy enough for women (or high enough value women) to gift themselves to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:41 AM
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If someone told you “Make less money then a white man? Just be Obama ******.,” would you consider that bigoted? That is what I am getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:39 AM
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Strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 09:37 AM
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Because sex is seen as a gift.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 10:05 PM
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Yeah, pretty damn misandristic. Imagine if we told blacks/women/muslims shit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 09:48 PM
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Strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 06:41 PM
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Where did I mention virginity at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 05:33 PM
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That isn’t a market. That is just how everything is. Nobody is measuring how confident x man is when picking partners. All it is, is “does this person make me feel good?”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 03:57 PM
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The thing with “self-improvement” is that it is a endless hamster wheel to keep exploiting you. The truth is that you will constantly chase self-improvement while you see the same privileged dudes party all day and get a free ride up above you while at the time selling you this idea that effort matters to keep letting the privileged dudes party at your expense. With “self-improvement” being all about being becoming as useful as possible Even in the off chance that you excel and pass the privileg…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 02:33 PM
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The thing is that our misandristic society sees sex as a gift to men and that men must earn it in some shape or form. Men do it, women do it and it is toxic as fuck. Especially since women often enjoy sex more then the man when he is doing a good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 11:57 AM
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The problem with your argument is that dating is not a market. We are not shopping for the best OBJECT we can get. We are all people and trying to objectify others via unrealistic standards that both sides have is sick and gets in the way of the person’s romantic success.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 11:55 AM
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Idk why either. Gymcels are a thing for a reason. I am red pilled and sucks honestly say that it doesn’t impact that much. What matters is the confidence it gives and that it gives you a lean body. But that can be done without getting buff. When it comes to looks, height, face, etc matter more. The same is true for women and things like cup size. C cup is all that is really needed (even smaller is good), but women think they need giant DDD tits to have a chance when it is there personality and l…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 11:05 AM
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Yeah, no. Humans are far more predictable and controllable then we like to think. Our entire world is built on manipulating us and it works perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 10:22 AM
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While luck is the only factor in life (even our actions are just the result of external factors), the issue is the rest of your conclusion. Someone going out and changing there life is going to have a higher chance of success. Ofc, the person changing is also the result of luck. The real problem is people use this as an excuse to not try at all instead of using it in the way it is meant to be used (not to blame yourself or others). So society tends to avoid being honest about this shit to try an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 10:18 AM
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Read the edit
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 12:18 AM
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So if society viewed white people as better, then white people are better then other races? Do you understand yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 12:16 AM
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Obesity says hi
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 10:12 PM
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Saying random empty witty quotes is not an argument, what is your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 10:11 PM
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Aka you are a misandrist. You think women have “way more” value than men, which is utter nonsense. Men earn more and it is systematic oppression. Women earn more and it is “women are better then men.” That is the kind of person you are. And that is why this thread is pointless and why this post was removed. Nobody can change your mind when it is filled with hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 10:10 PM
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Sounds more like you are a misandrist who thinks men are inferior to women. The average man is equal to the average women in terms of value. But men are not women. They are attractive and valuable in different ways. If you want to pull a “most men are trash” card on me, I will counter with the obvious that “most women are trash too.” Society just keeps on overvaluing women and keeps on acting like a 7/10 woman is better then she really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:30 PM
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What makes you think people do bit change? Most ugly people who are successful in the mating game were a lot more attractive when they did breed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 01:55 PM
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I would argue that privilege is correlated with optimism and confidence, but that doesn’t mean privileged people are better. But that they are just more privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:06 AM
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…what? I am red pilled as fuck and shit talk women (and men) all the time here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:04 AM
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No, they are just noting how x group is shit. It doesn’t mean that they ONLY think x group is shit. Everyone is shit really.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:04 AM
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You need to look at the context of thing said.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:03 AM
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Only for certain groups. When hating on Christians, Whites, men, etc it is all fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 11:02 AM
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Yes and no. People hate liars, but they often set themselves up so only liars are good enough to seduce them. That is probably what op is referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 10:22 AM
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No woman? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 10:19 AM
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Most humans are shit. Attractive or unattractive, rich or poor, incel/femcel or celebrity, etc. Most high value people we think are amazing, are just a shit as everyone else outside of the image they projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 10:10 AM
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If you go through life believing that all women are lying to you, instead of understanding what they're actually saying, then you're going to have a very hard time finding a real connection. I have no issue at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 07:14 PM
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Most of them do not care about how much money a man makes, as long as it's similar to what she makes, because they are already fine on their own. They do not care unless they do not make enough to meet there standards. Aka they care. Women are hypergamous, they date across and up. And you are listening to what women say over do. People do not know what they want, let alone be honest about. And they're already selecting within their own social status, so they don't need men to provide it for them…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 03:13 PM
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Because hypergamy selects for traits that no longer matter in modern civilization. What makes a man attractive are shit that mattered in the past. Things that matter now do not apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 02:44 PM
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That's nonsense. What you're talking about is if intelligence were the primary thing that mattered. No, it doesn’t matter. A idiot that makes just as much as a intelligent person is labeled just as smart. It isn’t the intelligence that women want, but the resources and status they hope it gives. I know lots of women who totally fall for guys who are really passionate about a subject/profession/hobby, even if it's not translatable to earning potential. Passion is not intelligence. You just can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 02:40 PM
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only if they are significantly below average That means they are right. If intelligence matters, you would not need to also have looks ontop of that. Intelligence only matters when people think it or it results in having more money, status, etc. And that is because it is the shit they intelligence gives that matters, not the intelligence itself. Your last sentence even shows this. You can be a random janitor and intelligent. You can also be a rich CEO and be a total idiot. Some of the smartest p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 01:09 PM
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Tbh, that is on the same level as the standards set for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 01:04 PM
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Both genders are very insecure, they just handle it differently. Men never really get any good support regarding there insecurities, so it goes online more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 01:01 PM
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Aka they right. It is not making them more attractive, them being born more attractive (assuming they looks maxed) does. Like your argument is that they are unattractive and there intelligence is not helping them, therefore they are wrong when they say intelligence does not matter. When they are clearly right.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:53 PM
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Everyone and nobody agrees with that. When it comes to women, “attraction is non-negotiable.” Therefore 3/10 women can keep gunning exclusively for the 7/10 man and blame men when the 7/10 does not give her what she wants. But when it comes to men, the issue is that they need to be realistic and negotiate attraction. The 7/10 man needs to settle for the 3/10 woman and stop caring about what he wants. And yes, this does work in reverse ofc. Bonus points for being ignored when you call this out as…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:50 PM
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What about real women? What is expect of them? Oh right, nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 12:46 PM
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Which is exactly why this happens in the first place. Women hav high shallow standards and instead of owning up to the problem being the men they want, they blame men for not meeting there non-shallow standards. When the truth is that they refused to get with men who met there non-shallow traits for they did not meet enough of the shallow ones they had. Aka there standards were too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 11:02 AM
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It shows more how messed up women’s priorities are. They aim for superficial traits (looks, confidence, charisma, fun, causes drama, status, money, etc). And ignore men who would make great partners but lack some or most of the shallow traits she wants (loyalty, good with kids, respects her, treats her well, kind, will commit, has good character, etc). So when a picked hot sexy bad boy does something that is basic real man shit, the emphasize how “low” the standards are for men. When in truth th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 10:15 AM
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Funnily enough, that is what they tell men. And this is why men should not lower there standards. They end up never really loving or being satisfied with there current girl and will feel much more tempted when they get the attention of a woman they do fancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 02:00 AM
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Not to mention that this is just divorce. What about all the cheaper to keep her marriages? The meh marriages? The “just as good as single marriages?” The “less happy then single but lying to yourself” marriages? Etc And in the end, what do men get from marriage? Zero, absolutely nothing. What a steal. If the “checkmate” is that you can mitigate the divorce rate to 20% or whatever, then it shows exactly why men should not get divorced. Like saying there is only 20% chance of dying during Russian…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:19 PM
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That is usually a sign that the other side thinks that op has a point fyi. When people can engage in good faith and win, they do it and get it over with. When they can’t, they start playing games, ignoring you, mocking you, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:49 AM
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So women are closed off, delusional sociopaths who just want to see you suffer and squirm? Who do you think we are, men? Lol Jokes sometimes just write themselves lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:48 AM
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The thing is that you are looking at at it wrong, this isn’t about responsibility. That is just the rationalization they are using to justify why it is okay to not help men (when we all know the poster will be all for helping women with mental health issues tomorrow when it is safe to pull a 180 when nobody is looking). Modern, western society is gynocentric and misandristic. Men are not human, but instead objects designed to serve women. So when a man “falls behind” (read: is abused and/or fail…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 10:45 AM
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Any man or woman can choose to be a victim of their trauma/society/the world, or they can choose to heal and get better. Every human is responsible for their own mental well being and for dealing with their own trauma. That is not how reality works and it is why America has a mental health crisis that is increasingly getting worse in comparison to other countries which do not have any mental health issues at all. Responsibility and blame are artificial man made fake constructs to try and justify…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 10:15 AM
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You literally said Speaking as a man: the vast, vast majority of men I've seen most certainly do not take care of themselves to an acceptable level. Most of them could benefit from more self-care, better mental health, better hygiene, and/or better clothing. Earlier. I countered by saying that is victim blaming. You countered with your stupid rape example. Again, you cannot save face here. It is all there for everyone to see. I am done lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 09:06 PM
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Don't put words into my mouth. What I said was that merely telling rapists "rape is bad, mmkay?" isn't going to stop the problem. I know, and I just pointed out why that is stupid and countered. You are just trying to save face by leaving out the conclusion that it makes it okay to victim blame men (or in your rape example, the rapist is at fault and responsible). As I just said: Even if you try the “no no, I am not saying that,” and try to save face with some other word spaghetti manipulation n…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 08:47 PM
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Did you read his other counter post to mine? He tried to justify victim blaming by using a rape victim as a counter argument lol. The crazy lengths misandrists are willing to go to hate men man. I mean: “Rape cannot be stopped by noting that “rape is bad,” therefore it is okay to victim blame the victim for the consequences of the rape and not bother helping him/her or spreading awareness to prevent rape in the first place.” That is the literal logic the poster is using. Even if everyone falls f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 08:43 PM
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Of course they don't, but then they can't be said to take care of themselves to a level necessary to attract someone. Why would anyone care to attract someone like that? You would never stand for women filling toxic standards for men while gaslighting women to try to negotiate the best deal possible. Yet here you are, acting like women are some prize to be won when they should be thankful to have a lover at all (just like we raise men to believe). But just like you're unlikely to get rapists to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 08:37 PM
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If 99% of an entire gender (over 3 billion people) are disgusting, that says more about you then men. It says that you see men as objects that exist to serve women. That you expect men to become what women want, the equivalent of male Victoria secret models that earn as much as Bill Gates. When they are human and should just enjoy there degenerate shit just like women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 06:56 PM
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Speaking as a man: the vast, vast majority of men I've seen most certainly do not take care of themselves to an acceptable level. Men do not live to look sexy for you. Men are not objects. Most of them could benefit from more self-care No, they could benefit from not being treated like shit to have such low self-esteem and shit in the first place. Yay for victim blaming. Let’s just move on to the most obvious part: mental health Lol, men are at fault for being emotionally damaged now. Classic vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 06:52 PM
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Here is what you are missing: What if it is women that want to work, but not men? And if so, why would men care about compromising then? Think about it regarding another subject (any subject). Ex: If I hire someone to be a cashier, but they also want to be a cook. And so they help with cooking, but then get mad as they have to do more work as the cook is refusing to do any cashier work to make up for the extra work the cashier is doing. The cook never wanted to do cashier work, so he/she will ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 01:21 PM
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Lol, these misandristic posts are annoying. The vast, vast majority of men “take care of themselves.” Which means one of two things. You are not worthy of a average or even below average man. You are being dishonest (probably even to yourself) of what you really want. Not a insult, most people have no idea what they really want as they never really think about it without bias. That is, unless you can land said man easily ofc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 12:45 PM
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Exactly why men ships strike lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 10:08 AM
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If you were not attractive, men would not be interested in you. You just underestimated how attractive you were and how much traits you think matter actually do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:47 PM
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If the woman on the left was walking down the street men would turn and get a second look. No, she is not that hot either. She is just average to above average at best. She has wrinkles, a receding hair line, a wrinkly neck. Post wall, bad eye bags, etc. If a girl like that turns heads, all men would be groveling at every women at Meijers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:45 PM
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It is probably more that you are older now. Men are attracted to fertility and youth, just like women are attracted to height, confidence and status. Makeup and shit does not compare to youth for many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:37 PM
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That right pick is not that hot though. She is above average, but she is not hot enough that men would pester her all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:34 PM
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Men’s rights is a very small and hated movement at the moment. Tbh, ai expect all of men’s issues to be fixed within a few generations. Changed is just slow and always hated until the truth is finally acknowledged. It took feminism a hundred years to get here. MRA will grow, organize and be heard when they speak the truth. But it will take a while. Might be in 5 years or a hundred. Just sucks for men being alive now stuck in the transition period.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:10 PM
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That is because they lived in a different era.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 09:43 AM
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Yep, it is the good old “being rich sucks and so want to be less rich, but I refuse to give up my spot because I actually prefer it.” And it would be easy too, just wear baggy clothing and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 09:39 AM
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It will actually naturally start fixing things for men too. Women will care less abort a men’s lack of success and such when society accepts the truth about it. Women will naturally just have lower standards and have less of the toxic traits that men complain about. Men who fall behind will be treated far better and will be able to catch back up as a result. Classes to help men learn how to get with women. Accepted sex work. Single gathering places for singles to mingle. Etc. Just look at how we…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 09:35 AM
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Which is why we struggling now. The truth is that both genders issues are going to fix itself with time. Right now, we are still using old outdated systems, but they are outdated and need to be changed. The transition sucks though, especially now since we are still accepting the problems created by liberating women like we currently have. How is it going to fix itself is the question. More then likely, future societies will be much more sex positive and more sexually giving. Women and men will b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 09:32 AM
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Yep, it is actually a fair and balanced trade. And it is more then the money. Women also want his experience, wisdom, etc. there are even women out there that like daddy little relationships too. They probably even have a happy relationship outside these things, the girl will just eventually grow, change and leave for that reason. All relationships are transactional like this anyways, most are just more even and not as lopsided.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 10:26 PM
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Even when they act like they are for men’s benefit, it is mostly bs. All these “there should not be a draft period” types when asked about women joining the draft immediately will demand men to die for them Ukraine style when it is actually needed. There words are empty.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 10:04 PM
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Being honest about it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 10:00 PM
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I always find these debates funny for the gender bent equivalent of oppression is accepted. Most notably that men are forced to help raise kids, fight in wars for the country and take care of wives post divorce. Society is all about freedom and autonomy until it comes to men, then it backpedals to forcing us to “do the right thing for the greater good.” Unfairness is okay until it comes to women, then all of a sudden it needs to be fixed for the greater good. Ofc, this is morally okay for societ…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:48 PM
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A “relationship strike” is the only solution that will work favorably for men. But things will have to get quite a bit worse first.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:39 PM
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So no data then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:33 PM
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We should get rid of or significantly limit child support. Nobody should be entitled to anothers resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:50 PM
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Or we could just make it so resources are not shared.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:06 PM
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What? No, it is about being honest with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:05 PM
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But you don't think women bring any good to marriage whatsoever? Well, what do women bring differently to marriage that they normally do not bring to a relationship? Nothing. The only things given via marriage is tax breaks and pressure on the one that makes more to stay because of the cost of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:30 PM
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Oh, you have data? Show me it then
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:28 PM
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No, misogyny is in response to being socially repressed and seen as lesser because of leftover traditionalist systems that are misandristic in nature. We removed the parts of traditionalism that oppressed women while the parts that oppressed men were kept. Ones that believe that men exist to be objects to serve the system and women over people who should be loved for who they are. To only be valued based on what they provide over just being seen and accepted as a human. When women were oppressed…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 12:15 PM
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You do realize that older men say the same thing right? Relationships become a chore after a certain point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:55 AM
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This is the real reasons. They can also get intimacy and sex outside of marriage far easier. Women just can get most of what they want from relationships outside of relationships (even if we assume that is much less then in the relationship). And because youth is more important in women then men, women’s options after a certain point are probably pretty abysmal in comparison to mens. Who, if desperate enough, can just have a sugar daddy relationship to get a decently good mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:54 AM
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your reply is seriously all over the place No, I just have multiple answers to show why the other poster is wrong. what do you mean. Be more precise. No, I do not need to be. You think “why should I care about x?” which means it doesn’t matter what I say to you. dating IS amoral. It's a competition. No, that is what you tell yourself to justify your immoral actions. Everything is moral or nothing is, there is no rationalized inbetween that lets you justify your immoral actions against others whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:03 AM
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Yeah, the reason is that it is useless bs lol. Nobodies mind is ever going to be changed with empty, half-assed ancedotals.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 10:38 AM
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But apparently it is men who have too high of standards lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:46 AM
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No, if she loved you she would treat you as well as her ex. And there is no point to modern marriage, it is a system of exploiting men for there resources for the sake of women. To be a retirement plan for her. The original point of marriage was that both would remain exclusive to each other and become one unit. Even before they were married, they were exclusive to each other and were even entitled to each others bodies and money. And it was on a world where people lived and died for others and …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:43 AM
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No, she is just showing one exception lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 09:36 AM
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You replace it with anything and the point remains the same. Ex: “why should we care about homeless people?” Why should we care about the mentally ill?” “Why should we care about the poor?” Etc. I like how you cannot engage my primary point because I am right about this and are forced to use a logical fallacy to try and indirectly engage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 09:14 PM
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Already answered. Because men’s lack of success means her optioned get worse. Take your employer example. The result of employers not understanding or caring about how hard it is for employees is worker shortages. As time goes on, the quality of workers go down as they care less and less about doing quality work and focus on doing the bare minimum. Also, that is a very narcissistic and stupid world view. “Why should people care about x?” Is selfish and unbecoming. It is the equivalent of men goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 05:21 PM
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Sigh.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 02:33 PM
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Not to mention that most of looking good is just spending money on expensive beauty treatments and surgery. Even rich older men use fillers and such. Most of these super hot people are just average in reality. There artificial privileges just lift them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:58 PM
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Because our society is selfish and will just love using these people and then spitting them out with bad mental health issues when there usefulness is up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:55 PM
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No, but it is one of the biggest parts of romantic love.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:54 PM
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The thing is that women also get frustrated and angry at men who do the af/bb strategy too. The issue is that people feel like they are owed men just accepting shitty relationships and deals without comlaints.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:39 PM
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…what? You need to clam your rationalizations down, being upset that your significant other is less intimate with you then previous lovers is a very valid complaint that both genders have. It just means he/she doesn’t love you and you should leave him/her for someone who will love you like you deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:26 PM
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Why do we have all these loaded shitty “question for women” threads. I want some loaded questions to answer too. Like “Q4M why do you like punching puppies so much?”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:48 PM
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Yet you don't here the men being objectified for sex complaining. No, but women do complain about it. We all know the real problem here. Yeah, exactly what I said in my post. Men who are committed aren't getting the sex they feel entitled to if their wife gave it up so easily in the past. What kind of shitty re-framing is that? The problem is that those men feel objectified, used and neglected because his wife was more intimate with her exes then her husband. In what world is being upset that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:43 PM
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I predicted that the pressures put on people, selfishness and apathy will cause things to start to break down with a dating “bubble burst.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:28 PM
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I think it is wrong to use people for sex, then aim for commitment when they are done with there fun. It is wrong in many ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:17 PM
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Why does it matter, really, whether or not women understand my situation? Because men’s lack of success means her optioned get worse. Take your employer example. The result of employers not understanding or caring about how hard it is for employees is worker shortages. As time goes on, the quality of workers go down as they care less and less about doing quality work and focus on doing the bare minimum. What benefit is it to me if women understand my plight. Am I getting a pity fuck out of it? T…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:05 PM
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That would require women to give up there sexual oppression of men indirectly. The whole point of all this is to objectify and use men for there selfish benefit. If we were honest with men, men would not give women what they are currently giving. They would start saying no and not accept being emotionally abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 11:56 AM
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No, it definitely is a problem as it is objectifying people. Use one for sex, one for commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 11:48 AM
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And everyone is okay with admitting this truth already. Why is it so hard to admit that women do it too? I know why, for then women will have to treat betas better and be shamed the same as men are when they make shitty mating decisions. The problem with af/bb is that betas are not treated as they should be, and we then act like it is because they are a shitty person over the reality that they are not a male Victoria secret model.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 10:50 AM
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Tbh, most people have terrible personalities. Most people present themselves as far better then they really are. Even great people lie Robin Williams have lots of negatives to them that we just never see. When we feel chemistry (read: lust) for someone, we downplay there bad traits until it fades. Which often doesn’t even happen until after marriage. While unattractive people’s bad traits are amplified and there good traits ignored. It is why unattractive people butch about Chad types, because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 10:47 AM
1

You argue to spread the knowledge to the onlookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 07:21 PM
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We literally have to play the dad at points in the relationship. Deal with her emotional trauma, her drama, in-law drama, etc. Just like you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 12:16 PM
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Also, it should be noted that women’s standards for men result in men being worse long term partners. Wanting an assertive, dominant, confident, stoic, gives zero fucks man leads to him being emotionally unavailable, seeing himself as superior to her, not interested in doing any housework, be the leader in the relationship, not care about her emotions, etc. All the men I know who would do what women here say they want older men to do are all seen as low value by women for they are too feminine f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 12:02 PM
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Well, ask yourself this question, why would masculine men ever be feminine enough to do any of what you want? The issue is the toxic standards women expect from men. Wanting a man who is assertive, confident, stoic, etc will naturally lead to them seeing you as inferior. Men do the same when they have toxic standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 11:57 AM
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Men do a ton of unpaid labor too. And men do more emotional labor then women do, they just do not complain about it and accept it. Perhaps overall women do more, but to act like it is one sided like this is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 11:53 AM
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Why is it men’s fault that she wants relationships with ungrateful and disrespectful men over grateful and respectful men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 11:52 AM
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Well, this is a survey that should be taken with a grain of salt because of what it is. But some food for thought: Perhaps women can no longer get the men they want while men still can atleast get some success with women they want. Women just accept that they cannot get what they want and then say they are happier as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 11:51 AM
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That is why they try to call anonymous red pillers incels as a counter argument too. When it comes to uncomfortable truths about women, society pushes pack with isolation and hatred to try to silence them. In the pre-internet days, this was very effective. As most old men who talked about female toxicity were just shamed into silence. Thinking it was just them or that there was something wrong with them. Society has always been misandrist, women were also oppressed under traditionalism…but we fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 10:55 AM
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Bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 11:10 PM
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If a woman lowers her standards to find a relationship, it’s bad. Nobody says that. They say they do not want women to settle for them, there is a difference. They want women to have realistic standards. Not get with someone they see as inferior and treat them as such. If a woman maintains her standards remaining single, it’s bad. Well yeah, that is just her being entitled and ruining her chances with a good man. If she cannot easily get what she wants, her standards are unrealistic. Perhaps she…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 10:50 AM
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Yeah no, that isn’t true at all. Older women want established men far more then men want women who are young and hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 10:48 AM
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Because they have lower sex drives and are okay being single longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 03:35 PM
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Moisturizing you skin does not prevent crows feet, Botox can though. And every girl I know starts getting crows feet after 25
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 03:33 PM
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People age, that is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 03:32 PM
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Wow me the data used then
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:04 PM
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Because men are not women. Youth in women is attractive. That isn’t true with men. You are looking at a orange and strawberry, and saying oranges are the better fruit for they are oranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 12:45 PM
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Both genders are fat and ugly…. Women get wrinkles like crazy after 25 too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 12:04 PM
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If over 40% of x are obese, how can only 27% be overweight? It is physically impossible. The data being used there is either a lie or really old.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:48 AM
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Bullshit. Women use makeup all the time, are more likely to use plastic surgery, use hair extensions, etc. While men just have there real faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:46 AM
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I remember when I first got a six pack, chubby girls kept acting like I was lower value then them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:02 AM
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That is a lie. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db360-h.pdf CDC reports that over 40% of both gender are obese and about equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 10:49 AM
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I just googled “average Russian Man” and “average Russian Woman” and not a single fat person was in either of them. They were all skinny and attractive. They are were both equal to one another…not a single dude with a cigarette or drinking problem at all. On Reddit (mostly US users) it’s the same. The guys are all versions of the same type. Somewhat overweight, love gaming, have beards, short to average height and a very normal, boring job. So the same as the average women then lol. Why do peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 10:47 AM
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That it doesn’t matter in the grand scheme
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 07:31 PM
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You are right, pity I am not talking about myself here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 03:38 PM
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If your only counter argument is “what about the rate exception,” then that means you cannot come up with a good counter argument against me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 03:38 PM
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Why should anybody be pushed to do anything they do not want to do? For the greater good. Life isn’t about the individual. Never was, never will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 03:00 PM
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You are not society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 02:59 PM
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Or maybe she just didn’t like them as ppl and still wanted to enjoy sex. Guys would know about that. Why would anybody want to be with someone who objectifies others lien that? Women despise men like that too. Maybe she stayed with a guy she liked as a person. The point is she didn’t stay with guys period. Not saying you have to be with her (your choice) but I like to play Devil’s advocate when a. Situation isn’t as simple as red pill believes. Except it is. People are less special and complex t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:43 PM
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Then she should pick better partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:39 PM
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Neither do most women know how to please men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:39 PM
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If it takes someone 10 plus partners to find someone not like that, then that is a big red flag. Either she is attracted to men that are not ltr oriented or is avoiding responsibility for her own actions. Both are signs that she should be avoided.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:19 PM
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Yep. When one of these men actually see how she treated one of her first sex partners (the enthusiasm, the anal, etc) then that is when the “n count doesn’t matter” guys find out how much it matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:13 PM
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If that were true, she would not hav a high n count I the first place. A women who stays with someone they are attracted to never has the opportunity to get a high n count for they are already staying with one of the first guys they are attracted too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:10 PM
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Funny how you only use this to write off the people you disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 12:08 PM
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I think that is because men just want sex with women more then the other way around. So men have to learn to please women to get the sex they want. If you think about it, most women are much shittier then men when it comes to sexual skills. Most women demand men have the equivalent skills of a skilled deepthroater, it really is just as difficult (according to my bi friends, even harder to perform well for a women then a man). Women just act like the work needed to be good at it is worse then it …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:49 AM
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Yep. Men’s sexual pleasure is not a priority as a result. Most women are even shittier at sex then men are, men just learn to sexually please themselves during sex while she just lays there being pleased.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:24 AM
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Bullshit. It is just as hard to perform oral on a man as it is a woman. It is just a different kind of hard. And I am including deepthroating. Pleasing a women takes a ton of endurance, it often takes 20 minutes or even an hour of constant stimulation to make a girl cum. Your tongue is often completely numb before she is fully satisfied. You have to be completely present and be in her head too. Unlike men, there is a ton of emotional and mental work that needs to be done here. While a blowjob is…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:22 AM
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This is my experience too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 07:45 PM
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I know, which is why it must keep being said.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 07:31 PM
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We are waaay past needing a reset in everything really. We are waaaay to arrogant and spoiled. All we are doing is exploiting the children of those that lost our parents game and creating morals and systems to keep the children of the winners on top.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 05:10 PM
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Then you haven’t read a single thing I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 04:44 PM
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Hetero romance all the time EVERYWHERE in media for well as long as humans have told stories. Well duh, the media is about making money. They will always appeal to the majority for most things as that brings in the most money. Again you're missing it because: it's default. No, you just do want homosexuality to be normal. You want it to be special when it isn’t. Being equal is not about being special, it is about being accepted. Which is happening with homosexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:05 AM
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So the love triangle between Jean Gray, Cyclops, and wolverine? Rogue and gambit? So the love triangle between Jean Gray, Cyclops, and wolverine? Rogue and gambit? No, that is different. None of them were screaming “look I am straight.” They were just portrayed as normal and treated as such. That is difference. It isn’t equality to make it look special and emphasize it, that makes it looks like it shouldn’t be normal. Like the character is not a character, but a sexuality. It is easier to distin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 10:46 PM
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No, definitely not true. We do not see any emphasis on x man being heterosexual like we do with a homosexual. No big news about Spider-Man being Gay or something. These things are not done to help homosexuals or minorities either. It is done for $$$$$.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:18 PM
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Dude, men do not think that for it doesn’t work. “Nice guys” are unattractive men that complain about how women say they want nice men and then get with sexy men who have shitty personalities. Either arguing that they are not like those shitty men and should get the girl instead or are frustrated that women keep gaslighting them about it al. Some use it as an excuse, for some it is actually true. Some are legit, some are not. They might actually be nice or they might not, but that is what they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 06:43 PM
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So you think violent crime is the only way to be shitty? I am done with the games.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 05:18 PM
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This And what does this have to do with any of the pills?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 04:52 PM
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Actually, that is more proof of what I am saying. Women get significantly less punishments for committing the same crime. Women avoid incarceration for things men would go in for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 04:52 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 02:09 PM
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You are right. Honestly, both sides are being incentivized to do what they are currently doing. The truth is that most of the content on this forum is pointing there fingers at the wrong people to fix things. The system itself is this weird mishmash of hardcore traditional Puritanism and sexually liberation that sucks for most people unless the person is super privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:58 PM
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No, worse. It is just plain hatred. Misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:55 PM
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No, men’s standards are not too high at all. You just want men to lower there standards to get better “deals.” By all metrics, men have a realistic world view of there own and women’s value.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:54 PM
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Yeah sure, my insignificant posts explaining the consequences of treating men poorly are the “real” problem. Not the society and system that creates these problems. Aka classic victim blaming. You just want men who you deem as lesser to suffer under oppression and accept said suffering with a smile on there face. Which is why I said “lol” instead of engaging you seriously. There is no point in explaining to you what you already know. You think oppressing and exploiting these men are okay, so you…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:53 PM
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I agree with you. Societies current system (morality) is about maximizing personal gain and minimizing consequences of it. It is sick and twisted. The very fact that men have to be lied to shows that they should not be doing the exploitative bullshit they are doing in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:49 PM
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Exactly. If a man has standards, they are too high. If he doesn’t, they are to low.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:46 PM
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No, it is because it isn’t a casual sex strategy but a LTR one. Since those men cannot get the same sexual experience, they aim for women who have the same sexual experience as them (the average man has 6 sex partners throughout his life).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:45 PM
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You misunderstand me, I am not saying you have to date someone shorter then you to say height doesn’t matter. I am saying that you cannot use yourself as proof for you are dating men taller then you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:37 PM
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Talking about societies poor treatment of isolated young men and some of the possible impacts in general is “incel content” now? I never even said anything about looks, sex or anything incel related. Just noted examples of the damage gaslighting isolated young men does.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:36 PM
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No, the only way your anecdotal can have any impact on this argument is if you dated someone shorter then you. As of now, your actions are not proving anyone wrong. They are just an added exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:33 PM
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The reason being a slut is bad is because of women’s pickiness really. If women slept around more, men wouldn’t care about women’s n counts. But because most men do not get the luxury of getting enough casual sex, they need women similar to them in experience and so they aim for low n count women and shame higher n count women to try to get what they want. And yes, I understand that it is not women‘s fault here (or men’s),This is a deeper issue that is more of an issue with social systems. Both …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:13 PM
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We literally bully and gaslight them to kill themselves, drown in escapes (ex: drugs and video games) and push some so far to the edge they shoot up schools. Yeah, it is pretty damn damaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:08 PM
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But that also doesn’t really prove him wrong, you are just shorter then average so it is easier to get a taller man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:06 PM
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The fact that you think “this person might kill me if I reject them” shows that men are oppressed lol. Men are seen as monsters until they prove otherwise and you must prove this daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 01:04 PM
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No, I am just noting the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:53 PM
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Always was this way. According to women here: The problem is that Men have too low standards…then five minutes later they say men’s standards are too high and need to be lowered. They will say the problem is that you do not love yourself, then they will hate you when you do. They will say the problem is that you lack confidence, then get angry with you if you do become confident. Etc. The truth is simple. If you are hot, high status and/or rich enough, women will make excuse as to why your perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:23 PM
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The only examples provided were men who are tall, famous and/or rich lmao. You do not have to be those things to be confident, but women do not find those men as more attractive for being confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:17 PM
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No because they would be creepy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:15 PM
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Exactly, he is rich and famous. Of he was poor, short and low value his confidence and humor be creepy. “Confidence” is the result of him being tall, rich and famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:15 PM
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The problem with this is that women are not doing there fair share of work here. In order to protect and provide for someone, you must have authority over them and they must see you as her superior. Women do not want that. When you try to protect and provide for a women these days or get the means to do so, you will find women themselves are getting in the way of this and getting pissed when they successfully keep you from protecting and providing. Women need to sacrifice a lot of what they want…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:13 PM
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I see what you did there
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 12:09 PM
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Is he taller then you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:59 AM
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Men and women are equal. Most men are shitty people. Therefore, most women are also shitty people. Women just want to be privileged and keep there privileges, so they create this narrative that they are better and good when they do just as bad of shit as men who have the power to do vile shit do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:57 AM
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Yeah, it is just misandry. Humans are creatures of bigotry, misandrists just like pretending they are not bigoted and abusive by virtue signaling that other forms of bigotry are bad and there bigotry is actually just calling out other people’s bigotry. History is just rotating out the “hated group of the month” and pretending we are better because we cannot tar and feather the new group we hate. Aka the hatred is just as bad, we just do not have the means to hurt them as badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:56 AM
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Lying is never nice, it is about being too afraid of telling the truth and about being selfish. If we told ugly but kind men the truth, we couldn’t exploit them anymore and they would respond negatively. But we want to exploit them, so we keep lying to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:52 AM
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There are nice girls (see the nice girls subreddit if it still exists) and they might be just as common, but society is misandrist so there is a massive difference in treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 11:50 AM
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Yep, a lot of this is because of female toxicity. Just like male toxicity pushed women away from being what they wanted in many ways, female toxicity does that too. Women are the ones that want to be conquered, the ones that push for men to be the toxic stereotypes they supposedly hate, etc. Men who are kind, gentle, romantic and sweet are seen as unattractive for being so all the time. And no amount of gaslighting and shit will change the world and how they are treated. Men will just keep havin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 10:22 PM
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No, it will just cause men to burn out and for women to find even Superman not good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 10:05 PM
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Correction: humanity was able to survive with as few as 10,000 individuals We don’t have to correct anything; we just have to stop fouling our own nest before technology can take care of it Aka “Humans survived with as few as 10,000 individuals, therefore we do do not have to correct anything.” Very irrational and a giant exaggeration.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 06:24 PM
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It is a downward spiral. Men do shit to get sex. Women feel better about themselves and raise there standards so only the top 20% are attractive again. Men feel worse about themselves and do more to meet these new standards. Etc, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 04:56 PM
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Why would I make a counter argument for such an over the top generalization and such an irrational argument? His/her argument is that because society was able to function with 10,000 people a looooong time ago, nothing needs to be done. Which doesn’t make any logical sense. If you want to know why, here is TWO of MANY reasons why. That isn’t true in western societies anymore. If we lost a large chunk of people (say a billion), the economy would crash, infrastructure would break down, chaos would…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 03:15 PM
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You are literally exaggerating lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 03:00 PM
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That is a pretty shitty excuse. “Hey guys, we do not have to take responsibility for anything for as long as 10,000 people live there is nothing wrong.” God, the blue piller arguments get worse and more irrational as the years go by it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 11:16 AM
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Probably both.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 11:15 AM
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That does not mean there isn’t any problems or it is insignificant, it just means that they have hope still. And here is the thing, they are much, much more likely to get divorced too. You purposefully ignore that fact. The problem with you abusive manipulation is it is never going to do anything but help red pilled groups grow. Dismissive arguments do not work, they never do for they are made in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 11:15 AM
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A 50% divorce rate means that it is only for a “small percentage of the population?” Sexless rates of 30% to 55% means it only impacts a “small percentage of the population?” Why do you expect to change anyones mind with blatant BS?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 11:12 AM
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Strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 11:11 AM
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Definitely not. I would say American men mostly prefer tanned skin. And I say this as someone who loves gothic, milky paled women (which is incredibly rare these days). As for why it was historically preferred, a culture’s looks preference is about status. In the past, everyone worked the fields and so only high status people could have fair skin. So this was coveted. Now it is the opposite, with tan skin being hard to get it for we are indoors all the time. Same with everything else. Why are bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 07:44 PM
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No, they do not. They just have a combination of better teachers (read: good male role), learn faster, get better experience at a young age, etc. And most of it is just better teachers or experiences. Especially when it comes to fathers, boys literally mimic there fathers. Men who are lacking the things to “get it” are just men who never had a proper way to learn how to be what women want. Usually because of shitty or absent fathers. Nobody is born knowing how to hold frame, be charismatic and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 07:26 PM
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The same reason many men become feminists or white knights, to try and get a special relationship with the opposite gender. They usually have some flaws that make them go farther to appeal to the other gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 06:47 PM
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The issue is most people in these situations cannot get a person that meets there needs for whatever reason. Especially in the modern world, where it is not only difficult to find the people we want, but figure out who those people are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:53 PM
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The thing with leftist ideologies is that they are ideologies. They do not care about truth, they care that the world fits there world view. It is similar to religion in this regard. So they do not care about truth when it runs counter to there believes. Conservatives do the same. The best part is they both call out the other sides hypocrisy because of this reason while ignoring there own hypocrisy even when it is pointed out to them in a irrefutable fashion. The biggest flaw of (modern) leftist…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:52 PM
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Strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 03:52 PM
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No, it is because women treat beta buxes differently. That is why they say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 11:05 AM
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Because they do not get the help they need.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 11:04 AM
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Do that and women will rush to go back to traditionalism. Pity it will never happen because of simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:04 AM
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Worse, men who suffer depression are ignored and never given the treatment they need.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:03 AM
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This is a strawman This WHOLE subreddit is blaming women for not being able to get your women-hating dick wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:09 PM
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Look at the ages. Women suffer from mental illness later in life, men suffer more when young.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 06:39 PM
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If you are sweet, kind a fun(not to impress) then most girls are keen to cuddle. Lol, yeah sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:42 PM
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Strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:39 PM
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Culture is not the same as the country. And it was a rebirth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 05:37 PM
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That was another Rome. The cultural lifecycle does not mean the culture fully dies. It means it rebirths into something new. Technically Russia is the remnants of Rome.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:48 PM
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It is more like she loses “levels” of privilege. It is not a light switch, it is a constant decay. Proper skin care can fight it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:24 PM
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No, it definitely is hard. Going from 0 to 100 is actually good. Your life gets better with time and you have no frame of reference that your life sucks at first, so you will be fully satisfied at 0. Going from 100 to 0 is horrible. You have nothing to look forward to but memories of the past. It is hellish as your efforts do not matter and pain is all that awaits you. Read “flowers of algernon” to get an idea on how bad it really is. It is about a mentally handicapped man getting a temporary in…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 11:10 AM
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It should be noted that these things happen exponentially. It will go from 1 to 2 to 4 really slowly, but then it will go from 1000 to 2000 real quick. I think (assuming that tinder apocalypse is real) that the bubble will pop in 5 to 15 years. I think it will happen sooner, but who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 10:55 AM
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They might actually not do anything because this is perfect leverage for them. “OMG we cannot do anything about abortion because of Republicans, vote more of us in office” I could see Biden purposefully not doing anything until election year just to try and leverage votes. He is doing the same with forgiving student loan debt. Whether he will either push a bill desgined to fail and act like it is republicans fault or he will give the forgiveness out via an executive order about October. The real…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:35 PM
2

There is no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:44 AM
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I am one man like that. I went from a high value man to a loser, to a high value man once more. What worked was just getting value until you were in the top 20%. Simple, but true. The rest is bs
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:07 AM
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Or maybe it is just because you are more valuable now. Women are not mind readers, a confident unattractive person with the same mentality does not get the same results. In matter of fact, all character judgements are bs. Women just want you to be the most useful object possible to meet there shallow standards. You pass a certain point and they will want you. And the more men work to improve themselves in general, the more women will demand to be seen as attractive to them. Aka men should only i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:02 AM
1

Then he is not average in some shape or form.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:57 AM
10

And the opposite is also a problem. If the guy is more attractive, then she must work her ass off to please him. Which makes her miserable as she wants him to be her beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:42 AM
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All sexual relationships are transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:39 AM
0

Entitlement is just a completely out to write off people’s opinions. Everything is entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:19 AM
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That is like telling indentured servants that they are being paid for what they are worth when they ask for non moldy bread. People only get what they are worth when the system itself is completely fair and balanced. And life is not fair. Tons of valuable people get shafted and end up with someone less valuable then themselves and vice versa. Aka the just world fallacy is a fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:18 AM
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Bingo. Men can complain as long as they only blame themselves. Even though that is never the truth as everyone and everything involved is at fault. And men already take responsibility for there mistakes, they are pissed that nobody else is taking responsibility for there own failures.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:10 AM
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Ah yes, the era of “equality” Where women are to be accepted for who they are, while men have to spend there entire lives changing who they are to fit rigid traditional norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:06 AM
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So men are allowed to be miserable, but expecting something to change so they are no longer miserable is off the table. Yet we have an entire movement dedicated to changing things so women can get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:04 AM
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And sacrifice ofc. But heaven forbid men want anything, that is just pure entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:03 AM
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That isn’t someone who just get it, that is someone who practices manipulating women until he figures out what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:01 AM
3

That still isn’t “just getting it.” “Naturals” just received the knowledge they needed or experienced something that made them learn quick. We only “just get” the few things pre-programmed in us to do when we are born. Fuck, we do not even “just get” things like walking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:42 AM
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No, nobody does. At best they randomly run into the truth first, but even then they do not “just get it.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 07:47 PM
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No, no it isn’t. Most of dating is a job for men. It can be enjoyable, but it is still a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 07:24 PM
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There is no “just get it.” There never is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 07:19 PM
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Because it doesn’t work and no matter what empty bs people say, it still will not work. Red pill is pragmatic, it is about what works and doesn’t work. It does not care about neutral factors either for they do not matter. People here can pretend kind people are more attractive all day, it doesn’t make it true. At best, it is neutral. At worst, it is unattractive. And it is insulting to real kind people who are struggling. You are gaslighting them by pretending that they are not really kind. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 01:04 PM
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Uhhhh, yes it is. Nice try though. Maybe next time actually engage the argument instead of using black people and mods to try to win it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 12:45 PM
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Seriously? No it isn’t. I was asked why I had to use the term Tyrone (when I just picked that one, has no specific reason too). If he/she asked “why Chad?” I would have said the same exact thing. And what is wrong thinking black people are cooler then white people? Black people can be quite successful with women too you know. You just want to abuse the mod powers to try to hurt me because you lost the argument. I mean, my post was upvoted because I gave the stupid question the stupid answer it a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 12:02 PM
1

View of his behind when he is bolting atleast.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:04 PM
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3 is a low number. I got so many that I pay 3000 per week in child support. Take that incels. I got so many baby mommas that people cannot tell what is more valuables, my dick or heaven.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:30 PM
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Especially with how fast he can abandon them. He can win some Olympics with those sprinting skills
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 01:04 PM
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Who said they have to?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:58 PM
1

We will, just in a different way. We more or less will all overprice ourselves out of the market as our actual value drops lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:58 PM
1

No, but dodging it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:57 PM
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Because Tyrone are a way more cool then Chad is. He is my best bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:57 PM
4

Tell that to deadbeat father with 5 kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:55 PM
2

Sounds like the boring software developer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:36 PM
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It is more that everything is decided within mere seconds of the interaction beginning. If she is going to say yes, it is nearly impossible to fail. She is going to up-play you good traits and downplay your bad traits to a high degree. You can do no wrong. If she is going to say no, you can do no right and everything you do is bad. We can argue if it is all looks or not, but most of it is a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:36 PM
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Aka it is just potential indicators of value (looks + confidence + status + power). Indicators that would repulse women if they did not find them attractive. Also why men do not get women going after shitty men. They see it for what it really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:33 PM
2

And honestly, “just be confident bro” just leaves bad taste in men’s mouths.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:31 PM
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“Just be confident Bro” is the spoiled person’s “just be passionate bro.” Also, can we have the actual study so we can find out that this is a “what women says study” already? Also, also how come non-study links are acceptable when blue pillers post links. But These same people write off red pill source dump posts as bad because they do not like what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:30 PM
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No, we do not know what the study has. Link the actual study.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:28 PM
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It means you are taking a shitty image of a unlinked study that is probably based on what women say and completely worthless to the point the image taker did not feel confident enough to even link the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:27 PM
1

Those are all dodges via vague answers to avoid the heart of the matter
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 11:35 AM
2

What? Did you just ignore everything I just said?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 11:34 AM
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Like not getting the perfect man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 11:33 AM
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Well, why do we grow up? If we did not have to, why would he ever stop behaving like children. In a way, our child selves is who we truly are before reality forces us to be otherwise. Perhaps it is women rebelling against the oppressive Japanese system by not submitting to adulthood. Or because it is allowed, they do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 11:32 AM
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Strawman They do not have to quit there jobs. They just have to do the bare minimum to pay rents and such. Even with 30,000, it is easy to live if you are a minimalist. You empty, hateful “just quit bro” is childish and misses the entire point I am getting at. Your entire argument is “privilege for me, oppression for thee” which is just sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:54 AM
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And sacrificing men’s rights and needs does also make things worse. The solution is honestly to free and liberate men, not oppress women. This will take away some of the privileges women have (not rights) and make it so women will have to accept less, but that is just equality if anything. People are just selfish, so we historically always go back to traditionalism and oppressing each other until we are all miserable instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:30 AM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:27 AM
5

Well you are not wrong, the Japanese Race is going to go extinct if they keep going as they are going. Ofc, things will change when it gets bad enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:27 AM
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And by top tier, they mean hotter. Tyrone will just have 3 more kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:19 AM
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That is the curse of humanity. When we have nothing, everyone is treated well and fulfillment is easy. But life itself is harsh and sucks. But when we have everything, life is comfortable and secure…but people treat each other like trash and everything is empty.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:13 AM
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That is because women are valued for there youth. Japan takes this to extremes because of there objectifying “your life is work” adult culture. So men and women do not want to grow up because they literally do not ever get to live at all. Also why Japanese entertainment is always based in high school. And why suicide parties take place after high school. Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:10 AM
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You mean the country where it is expected for husbands to live and die working 24/7 to finance his wife to not work and get allowances from her? And to earn this “privilege,” you have to spend years killing yourself working to earn enough to get a house for the privilege of getting with a older girl who is done with the fun of romance. Yeah, I could see how that makes men look at women negatively and treat them like crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:06 AM
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That is because we are in the “pre-feminism” phase of men’s rights…the spinsters who felt there oppression, but were too emotionally damaged and ignorant to truly understand why. Instead being bitter about how they couldn’t get a man, but never figuring out why that was so important (because women were raised to be objects for men). Aka many men realize it are beginning to realize something is wrong, but do not fully understand what and why yet. They just see women not sleep with them and get wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:01 AM
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Why not do the opposite and liberate men? Kill traditional monogamy altogether and create something better? It would be completely alien and result in a much better world after the transition. But it is either that or traditionalism because those are the only things that will work. The issue right now is that we are expecting men to fulfill traditional gender roles and support society when they have no stake in it. Why not just treat sex and love like we did in the pre-agricultural age? Where ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:57 AM
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Uhhhh, but it is actually already happening in Japan? The country is already dead. And in the USA we literally have worker shortages already and only 30ish percent of prime aged men are out of the market. We are also so worried about low birth rates that we illegalized abortion. And immigration is not keeping up anymore. Now will it “collapse tomorrow,” probably not. But we are going to have some economic hard times because of men’s unproductivity as soon as Gen x men are out of the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:51 AM
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You dodged my questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:26 AM
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At that point, we could just make it so we are all supermodel futanaris where we are the beta of both genders at the same time and all love each other in a utopian fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 09:26 AM
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Yeah, that sounds like a lot of work. What do men get out of this? What are women sacrificing about themselves to be worthy of me in the mean time?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:26 PM
3

Exactly the problem. Getting a date should not be a damn job at all. Men are not paid to be with a girl, they should just be who they are and get the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:39 PM
3

No, that is a fact. All men start at zero confidence, it is built up by success and various things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:33 PM
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Except that works for the job market is regulated and a completely different thing entirely. There is no such thing as a “entry level boyfriend” for the unconfident to work at. No internships. No college courses or training. It is like the software developer but worse as there is no way to get experience in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:32 PM
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They succeed because they are given confidence boosts to begin with from previous successes. They go out there, and apply for jobs until they get one. Then they get confidence from that job and get another job.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:33 PM
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Holy strawman. There is something between 100 and 0 you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:30 PM
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You are right. Abortion should have just been left alone. But both parties have gone insane and they are going to go more crazy with time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:23 PM
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Then they will have to take care of there children.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:20 PM
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Except an amendment is an amendment, a totally different matter. The issue with abortion is that it was legalized “in-properly.” It needed to be done via congress passing it into law, not because the courts said it was okay. This allowed the Supreme Court to illegalize it on a technicality. Because it is unconstitutional. All democrats have to do is pass it through congress. Which will be hard right now, but it will be easier later.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:29 PM
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That is exactly what pro-lifers are hoping for. Conservatives dislike empty hedonism, they want sex to only happen between two people ready to have a family. They do not want causal sex at all, they want these women to stop chasing “Chad” and start chasing good hardworking men who make good fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:25 PM
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Then they should have just not had sex until they were more mature and educated. You know, like we tell men who fuck up and get a girl pregnant?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 05:23 PM
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But is it worth that much sacrifice to get a girl who is just as attractive as we are before we start lifting a single pound? Especially since maintaining a six pack is actually incredibly unhealthy. It is the equivalent of becoming a Victoria secret model just so an average women can love you. Self-respect and love is more important then sex. One thing American men lack. It is part of the problem as to why men are struggling so much. Spoiling women just makes them demand more tomorrow. But it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 02:40 PM
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Best one is “street smarts.” Aka people who are not intelligent but pretend they are smarter then they really are because of experience dealing with things that smart people do not have too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:28 PM
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Meanwhile every good respectable man she rejected was actually the reincarnation of literal satan.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:37 AM
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Men do like adept women, they like both for differing reasons. Men love vulnerable women because it makes them feel needed and special to her. It also makes her look more young and innocent. Adept women are more fun to talk to and interact with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:15 AM
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The real question is if these insults actually happened. Or did op hear one counter insult one time and is now trying to use that to justify her discrimination of all short men? Because strangers do not go around insulting random people they do not like. Not even massive bigots do that. Sounds like typical halo effect hamstering. Op focuses on the bad traits of unattractive men to justify why she finds them unattractive and can hate them (when in reality they are just not hot enough) and focused…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:11 AM
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Yeah, op is a blatant misandrist who does not understand that he/she is one because society finds misandry acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:01 AM
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The issue is most men cannot reach that level or knows that he can. If a man is 6 foot 4 and has a decent face, a few years in the gym can do wonders.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:00 AM
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Because intimacy is a human need that we literally die without it. Nothing can replace relationships when it comes to intimacy. And sex is just the pinnacle of intimacy, so it is focused on heavily by people who are not getting enough intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:52 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:48 AM
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Because you oversimplify it to “because of people not having sex ???”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:20 AM
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That is all relationships are, a transactional exchange. Even your premise is based on this truth. With women It sucks, but men just have to live with it. Just like women have to live with the truth that there looks are a large part of there value no matter how hard they try to fight it. We are all just objects living in a stupid rock with scarce resources and in a shitty abusive game. A few people are born so lucky that they get everything for free. But most of us only exist to please those sai…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:14 AM
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You just backpedaled. You went from. average men have little chance with average women To I just don’t see why not getting dates easily is a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 10:10 AM
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No, it means they cannot accept anything less. As long as they do not cry about the consequences, it is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:48 AM
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That sounds like there is something else wrong then. A systematic issue that is resulting in men not developing like women are. You have unrealistic standards for men but not women without realizing. Ed: Women are just as bad at hygiene and such as men are, we just overlook that as a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:47 AM
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No, mature people go for whet they want. If they absolutely need a really hot girl/guy to make it worth it, they should have that standard:
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:42 AM
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It is more that women no longer need men in any capacity because the system gives women access to everything a man can do. While men still need women for intimacy and sex as there are no alternatives. So it leads to a toxic power gap
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:40 AM
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Bullshit. Sounds like you are attracted to men who treat women poorly and find men who treat women well as unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:38 AM
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The real issue is if they will be satisfied with someone “lower value.” Sometimes, people cannot lower there standards because that is the minimum they need to make it worth it. Those that do settle in this situation would grow to resent there partner as they are not actually someone they want. Hurting both of them in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 09:37 AM
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The very fact you can seriously ask that question shows there is not point in answering you. You hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:00 AM
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Lol. The “Chad” friend I had lived in his momma’s basement and charmed girls by using smooth words like: “Let me fuk U.”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 12:01 AM
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Average women are great. The issue is that average men have very little chance with them. That is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:27 PM
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I’m talking about a brilliant astrophysicist that also knows not to spend two hours autistically talking at someone about electrons when the listener clearly isn’t interested. “I’m talking about a man who has status and money who does not bother me with his passions and instead focuses on what I want.” I’m a woman married to another woman. I know what women find attractive. No, you know what women want in women. Not what women want in men. Intelligence is very attractive so long as the intellige…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:23 PM
1

Why does it matter what you personally want?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 11:19 PM
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No, it doesn’t. Total idiots can be incredibly skilled socially. Social “intelligence” is about being skilled in reading people and frame manipulation. Knowing how to bend prowl by manipulating there feelings. Emotional intelligence is not intelligence either. It is how skilled one is in reading another’s emotions. These things are important and make men more attractive, but they are not intelligence at all. People keep on trying to change what intelligence is to make themselves feel on the leve…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:44 PM
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Exactly. It is no intelligence that makes men attractive at all. The funny and charming professor is not any hotter for being smart. He is just hot because he is funny, charming and in a high status position.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:24 PM
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That isn’t intelligence. That is just privilege, wealth and value (or indicators of it).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:22 PM
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Intelligence is just a empty compliment like nice is when women use it for men they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:18 PM
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More functional, useful. That is what we take pride in lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:36 PM
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What privileges do fat/chubby women have? To be far more loved and accepted then her equal man is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:35 PM
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Your creating a crazy hypothetical situation that doesn't even happen. Most women do not have anywhere near the strength to hold down a man, let alone forcefully have his penis in her pussy (somehow he's hard from all that??) While he's screaming and crying. The CDC link I linked showed that the amount of men “forced to penetrate”are equal to men rape. You do realize “forced to penetrate” means the girl forced his cock in her vagina (read: physically raped him). It is not hypothetical at all, it…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:34 PM
0

“Just live off the grid bro”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 06:29 PM
1

It is just our modern cultures sexist attitudes towards men. Men exist to serve others, we are owed shit from them but they are not entitled to anything in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:05 PM
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Worse. We are objects…advanced, self-learning bio-quantum computers that take pride in our value and pretend we are better and more valuable then we really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:55 PM
2

Just because they get less privilege does not mean they do not get any privilege at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:52 PM
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So raping men is morally okay to you? When a women drugs a man, holds him down and shoves his cock in her pussy as tears run down his eyes as he screams in utter agony as his mind permanently breaks down…that is morally not that big of an issue to you. When the man spends the next 30 years of his life crying himself to sleep from the pain, that is not as bad as what a woman is raped goes through? When he literally has to PAY his rapist to raise the child that she forced him to have…that is not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:51 PM
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Yes, much of that performance is being pretty. That’s it. Women get pretty privilege when they meet that standard. No, they do not have to be pretty. They do get more for being pretty, but even meh looking girls get tons of privilege. The standard of being beautiful is harsher on women than it is men overall. No, it is the opposite. Men have to be in the top 1% to get the same looks privileges that average women get. Most men just cannot get it at all so they do not bother as they get nothing fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:45 PM
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It makes you wrong, because women STILL have to work in the modern age, whether they are single or married. This isn't the 1950's, single people don't live at home anymore until they get married. No, women WANT to work in the modern age. Women can always be a stay at home wife for an average man. …but they do not want that as they will have less nice things. My sister moved out of the house as soon as she turned 18, and struggled in a tiny apartment. That was her choice. She could when easily sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:43 PM
2

Do you understand what femininity is? It is being presentable. Women have to shower, wear good clothing, shave, dress up and not be creepy or a toxic bitch. Men have to do the same or are completely ignored too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 04:38 PM
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Men have to deal with those risks too. And unlike women, we do not have the wide range of birth control options and ability to give up the child at any point that women do. Women are more picky because of several reasons. Lower sex drives. So they need more for it be worth it for them. They are spoiled with options. Because of men’s higher sex drives and because men are expected to give women as much as they can just because they are women, women just get more and so they expect more. We live in…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:49 PM
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How does that make me wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:46 PM
1

Games are literally entertainment…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:45 PM
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Dude, men get raped too. And they are at much higher risk of it then you think. Take a look at this post and the data in it. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/uxx2yv/comment/ia0pe7l/ Men get raped and are at higher risk of getting mugged, assaulted and killed in public. And most rapes are between people who know each other. In terms of random attacks, men are at much greater risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:43 PM
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Yeah, that is flat out bs. When someone is going to kill themselves, they are not going to care about the aftermath of it. If they did, they are not going to kill themselves. This seems like A hamster “women are wonderful” bs explanation. Where women are so good and loving that they care about others even when they fail them so badly that they kill themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:39 PM
0

Correct. When it comes to psychology, a lot of it is "just speculation." No, that is just a rationalization to make your opinion look better then it really is. Your post is just an uneducated, unscientific opinion that you are holding as equal to scientific research of highly trained and educated psychologists. Not saying you opinion is wrong or anything, but never write off an entire field of science like that. but this I don't follow. How would this narrative blame men in any way? He/she gets …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 01:37 PM
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The thing with men’s poor mental health is the underlying reason why men are so fucked up mentally to begin with…and it proves op completely wrong. The why? Men are not human, but tools to serve others. We get only what we need to give more. We are rewarded for what we give, never So what do men do? All they can to get what they want, because they have to. Since we only get what we need to be useful, we need to act out to get anything at all. We need to drown in escapes like drugs and video game…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:22 PM
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Anyone can do shit with there life if they want. In matter of fact, a woman can hit national news by trying to do something with there lives. The thing is that they have zero reason too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:29 AM
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BS
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 12:27 AM
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I would argue that women would be the ones to regret becoming men. Why? Because of how transsexuals talk about the differences in treatment. MTF people are amazed at how much better they are treated, while FTM complain how lonely it all is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:21 PM
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Nah, women can do the same as men. But they have no reason to. “Making something if yourself” is overrated. Men do it to be accepted and loved by society. The same things women get for free. If men got acceptance and love for free, they would not bother doing the things that make them something. That shows how unimportant it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:19 PM
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There are no female incels, just women who refuse to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 10:10 PM
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This. If they feel they settled, it is bad for both partners as the settler will never treat the settlers for as they deserve to be treated. Compromising is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:54 PM
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It is just a way to save face and avoid responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:48 PM
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The truth? Rape being more common then people think. With people being shocked who the rapists are. This includes men too, Probably more common then people think (not trying to downplay female victims here, but most people think male victims do not exist). Way more cheating then we think. More paternity fraud, less happy marriages then what is reported, higher n counts for women, lower n counts for men, lots of liars being outed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:46 PM
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Tldr: If you are hot to her, it is impossible to fail. She will rationalize why you are a good option for her. If you are not hot, it is impossible to win. When will rationalize why you are a terrible option for her. Aka ignore what she says and watch what she does. Her words and feeling are just trying to justify why you are hot or not. And ignore shaming tactics like “do not ask strangers out.” They are just shit tests. If you listened to them, you will have absolutely no possible avenue to ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 11:55 AM
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To add, how in the world are people suppose to learn if they are a good match or not if they do not ask each other out like that? The entire point of the first date is to learn about each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 11:51 AM
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Yep. Single mothers are just the worst no matter what. They could be amazing outside of the mating game, but inside the mating game they are the lowest of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 09:56 AM
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People do no blame women for who they are or there nature. They get pissed at the lies they are told and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 09:55 AM
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Chads just win for being born, so they never have to develop like most men do. Many end up being lazy bums and end up in trouble when there looks fade. Ofc, many Chads also put there all in and become quite successful. The point isn’t that hot men are all shit and ugly men are all good, the point is that it doesn’t matter who you are in the mating game (at least to a large extent). Same is true for hot women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 09:53 AM
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There is no female equivalent for people accept reality when it comes to why a ugly women loses. They tell her that she does not need any of those shitty men and stuff like that. Many of those women end up quite bitter and hateful (rightfully so really, it sucks to lose just because you are not sexy enough) and still accepted. While incels are told the issue is that they need to shower, go outside, that they need to be themselves and other abusive gaslighting games.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 09:50 AM
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That actually strengthens the comparison. You cannot challenge that they are different in function, so you focus on the severity difference. But just because the consequences of one need not being fulfilled is not as bad as the other, does not change the reality that they are similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:39 AM
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The thing is that this is all the people acting like men are entitled are just projecting. People feel entitled to starving men of intimacy and sex with men just accepting it all while having zero complaints. Like slave masters telling slaves they are not entitled to eduction as they do not need it and such. When people are oppressed, it is going to upset them. And sex is more important then people would like to admit. It literally impacts every aspect of our lives. Including our status, what fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:37 AM
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No, they are not losing. Unattractive men are losing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:02 PM
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Money and status are artificial man made concepts that go against evolution. The truth is intelligent women are being bred out as they are having way less kids on average. Time does not care if you have a cute face, are intelligent and/or have an amazing career. All it cares about is how many children they have and if they have grandchildren.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:00 PM
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Because it does happen all the time. Not because Chad is bad and the average guy is good, but because women do not care if Chad is bad and the average guy is good. Same thing happens with men. Sexy hot crazy girl gets ton of men interested in her, while a really good ugly girl gets passed over time and time again. It makes people bitter and it sticks out to them when they see it happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 09:56 PM
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Here is the truth, effort doesn’t really matter in the mating game. They keep you on endless hamster wheels to make you think the issue is you, but there is nothing wrong with you. Then when it is beta bux time, they will wife you up….hoping that the hamster wheel you ran on will make you a good retirement plan. The dudes who get women have and will always get women. Either you are hot or not. The only exception are high value men who have not maximized there value (ex: losing a 100 pounds, gett…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:44 PM
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Chad isn’t about who is good or not, it is about noting that women break rules for them. A Chad can be good or bad. And a normal person can be good or bad. Chad is often categorized as bad to emphasize the fact that he can get away with it. Not necessarily that all Chads are bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:53 PM
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Idk. If you demand your equal in terms of weight and looks, that is okay. But many are like “Victoria secret model” level of looks or nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 02:47 PM
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Marriage isn’t what dictates success, babies are. Deadbeat man with five baby mommas is more valuable then a rich married man with three kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:41 PM
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Probably virtue signaling for status, good at sex (ex: big dick), he liked her before she was popular and when she was less attractive, etc. In order for it to defy all reason and be legit, she would have to not display it publicly really. The moment she showed him off in public like that, is the moment she was using him for something. I know of a girl who purposefully dated less attractive men because she fucked up a good innocent man who liked her bad. She did it to virtue signal and probably …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 11:09 AM
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No, we did not lose all of our good paying non-college jobs because they were shipped overseas. That is only one of many factors. Here are three more (there are many). Technology has advanced far more then people realize. The truth is many more jobs can be automated away then people think. The only reason they haven’t is because it is currently cheaper to use real employees then install and implement them. It is one of the reasons why employers do no really care about raising wages that much, ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:37 AM
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Then there is no point to a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:37 PM
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I can tell from his vibe that that's not someone who would choke a bitch… Really? That is what modern relationships is a waste of time. Not because you are wrong, but the entire point of relationships is lost at that point. It is just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:07 PM
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Have they tried not treating men like shit? No? They still only care when a emotionally abused man becomes threatening still? And only because they want to ban guns and give zero fucks that they would still kill, but less people. Sadly yes.
/r/AntiFeminists20/06/22 02:39 PM
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You can change breast size via weight gain and surgery. While you technically can change height via surgery, it is far more dangerous and far less effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:49 PM
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Says the person who isn’t debating but instead gaslighting the other poster and victim blaming him. Maybe the issue is that he has a point and you are just refusing to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:17 AM
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Same with everything else. Dude is emotional? If he is hot, he is sensitive. If he is ugly, he is a cry baby. Dude is awkward? If he is hot, he is quirky. If he is ugly, he is creepy. Dude is confident? If he is hot, it is sexy. If he is ugly, he is arrogant. Etc, etc. If women were honest, people would be disgusted with women as they objectify men more then men ever objectify women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:15 AM
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Because creepy is just a be shame attack to hate on unattractive and/or socially akward people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:10 AM
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You mean what everyone does for crushes lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:09 AM
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And everyone goddamn “stalks,” we just frame hot women and hot men who do it as acceptable. Women just feel entitled to unattractive men not feeling attracted to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 10:09 AM
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51% is the majority. how is that a long shot? Because it is statistically insignificant difference. We are talking less then a 1% difference if they rounded up, close to a 2% difference max if they rounded down. In practicality it And this will not remain static. The real point of this is that the exact numbers do not matter, but that men are definitely not a significant majority of dating app users on ALL apps or atleast enough to make any large impact. You can keep backpedaling and relying on …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:21 AM
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Yes, perhaps 80 percent is too high of a number, but a large number of men are getting conned
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 01:10 AM
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The first one is not a study nor does it have a study in it. And even if it did, they are almost certainly misusing the data, post it and I will show you. The second one says what period single people are happy period, nothing to do if married/single women are happier or not. eHarmony’s own website says it’s 51% Men and 49% women. Member Demographics By Age eHarmony has 15,500,000 members, 47% men and 53% women. Concerning age range, the members fall into the following demographics: 18 to 24 – 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 09:38 PM
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No, that data was purposefully misinterpreted. My source literally says that data is bogus and proves it. So you cannot use any of the information showing “women are happier” being single, as the data shows the opposite if anything at all. Carrying on using the data in that book after posting strong evidence that it isn’t real (even according to the book owner who said it was that they were wrong and misinterpreted data) just doesn’t make your point stronger. There are more men than women on eHa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:51 PM
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This. All it really is. Either you are hot or not to her. Anything she says caused you to be attractive or unattractive to her is a lie. After a while of kissing, cuddling and fucking, it starts to matter more and more. But even then, it tastes years before the real them is visible. And it is usually only AFTER marriage, where the negative traits are seen for what they really are with all the lying feelings gone and the true aggregations are felt. It is also why ugly people bitch that personalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:21 PM
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No, black and white does not mean all vs all. It means it is a binary choice. It is either black or white. It is either most or barely any IS a binary choice that is based in black and white thinking. Mine was a range. With some being happy, some thinking they are happy but would be happier single, not happy but pretending to be, some being miserable being single, some being happy being single, etc. I said that most are not happy, because they are not. It is to complex to make that argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:07 PM
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Well duh, ofc you would say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 08:04 PM
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You mention a psychologist named Paul Dolan, then say this “That book was a revenge fantasy in of itself really, a bitter women mad that she never got her own Prince charming.” No, I did not. What are you even getting at here? Did you even read the link? Bullshit, the same number of social venues and social opportunities exist as thirty years ago. Men are choosing to eschew sports, clubs, and a social circle and joining online sausage fests in the manosphere instead. I am not even going to bothe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:37 PM
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I literally noted that it was neutral…the opposite of an exaggeration needed for it to a charicature. I even directly said: In all honesty, some people are happier married, some people are happier being single but think (or tell themselves) that they are happier married, some are better off never bothering with the other gender at all. You just see the world in black and white (most people happy vs most people miserable) and then cover that up by accusing the other side of seeing the world in bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 06:34 PM
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After seeing what women were like when young (slutty, always in half naked morning and giving out frequent blowjobs), it is impossible to ignore how different women are with beta bux men. And it is how it always was. Women in the past were seen as less sexual and such…but the truth is that they did not love there husbands enough. Ofc, women still got with alphas and such, but it was kept hidden as best as people could. If the bottom 80% realized they were getting conned, they would just quit the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:47 PM
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No, you just do not like the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:43 PM
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Because people want to sell men relationships for malicious intentions (use him for money, security, to raise a child, make him productive, etc). It is so, so damn obvious that most men are not treated that well by there partners. But if men figured it out, most men would just not be useful anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:42 PM
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No, most married men are in a neutral state. Some days are happy, other days are downright shit and most days are just meh. And the truth is that they are not any happier then if they were single, they might even be happier being single because they would have less responsibilities. Perhaps they think they are happier being married, but they are probably just as happy either way. Relationships do not make us happy at all. Happy people are just more useful as partners because if there positivity …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:38 PM
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This. Not knowing how slutty and amazing the sex with her ex is, how much better she treated that abusive ex, that you are taking pride in being a good object, etc, does not make your current relationship with her any better. It just makes you think it is okay to accept less then you deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:29 PM
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Even the shit that sucks when you are blue pilled seem good when you are unaware of the truth. Ex: guys that have no idea what a women lusting after them is like, Thinks all the low jabs mocking him are acceptable, thinks that he has to do this for it is what a man does, etc. Being used even feel goods when you are ignorant for you are conditioned to believe that you are succeeding in life. Like all the poor fools who think working is a privilege when that is sold to them to make them happy and …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:26 PM
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No, the data does not. The data that says women are happier being single an child-free is a lie. https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/future-perfect/2019/6/4/18650969/married-women-miserable-fake-paul-dolan-happiness The source came from a book that was never properly fact checked. The truth is data Shows that married people are happier period. Although this is probably because happier people (read: more privileged) are more likely to get married or atleast a partial factor. That book was a revenge …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 05:09 PM
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Which is why we should focus on putting our effort in things that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 09:42 AM
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All of the above
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:07 PM
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Yep, the excuses made to justify the real reason why x man is rejected are never the real reason. At best they are just gross exaggerations of real traits the man has. The truth is that he just wasn’t useful enough to her to bother with (with sex, money, status, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 07:36 PM
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The truth is that a man’s value is detached from his sexual success. Many high value men are very sexually unsuccessful while many low value men are among the most successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 07:34 PM
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The only thing I need to get is that you are moving the goal posts and think Wikipedia is better source then the CDC.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 07:27 PM
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This. It is a rich and famous guy making jokes, people laugh because of his value.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:30 PM
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If you say so
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:27 PM
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Except the data provided said that isn’t true. In 2017–2018, the age-adjusted prevalence of obesity in adults was 42.4%, and there were no significant differences between men and women among all adults or by age group. This is straight from the CDC, not Wikipedia.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 06:26 PM
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Lol at women never making fun of men hurting here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:07 PM
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Nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 05:07 PM
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This. Op, women “need” you more then you need them. You want a woman in your life and have conditioned to believe that is a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:45 PM
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But is she worthy of that level of effort? Is the payout worth that level of effort? I mean, you are literally saying that relationships are jobs…and they do not pay anything out like a job does. That is everything wrong with modern dating. Men keep giving women too much because women are holding out for the best man possible. To the point where you think doing 3 times the work of another option of hers is needed. Dating is not a job, she is not an employer, men are not objects that exist to ser…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:44 PM
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There is no way to frame it in acceptable way besides giving them what they want. Women do all the shit people here say is unacceptable for men to do DAILY. Men are just not allowed to feel, have wants, have dreams, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:38 PM
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All dating is real dating though…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:20 PM
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Wikipedia? Really… Here is the real data https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db360.htm In 2017–2018, the age-adjusted prevalence of obesity in adults was 42.4%, and there were no significant differences between men and women among all adults or by age group. The age-adjusted prevalence of severe obesity in adults was 9.2% and was higher in women than in men. Men are more likely to be overweight Obesity itself is about equal And women are more likely to be severely obese. Those are the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:19 PM
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Most people are bad at sex honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:56 PM
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It is about making sex fun and reasonable. People with high sex drives do it as they both love sex (or if both of there sex drives match). The issue you have is you are assuming the dude is forcibly taking the girl against her will or something. This is something already agreed upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:56 PM
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No, that is a lie. There are more overweight men, but more obese women. And the difference is very minimal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:52 PM
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No, no they really don’t. Women tend to overestimate themselves way too much with looks. Men have much higher sex drives, so they are willing to date down and this makes women think they are sexier then they really are. Aka men just have lower standards for sex, so it is easier for women to sleep with men hotter then themselves. For example: A overly thin, no boobs and ass girl is able to land men with six packs for sex pretty easily. But her male equivalent would be scrawny man that lacks any m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:51 PM
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It probably is both. Tons of women have low sex drives and finding a women with a decently high sex drive is really rare. It is also why men need to do so much to be attractive to women, because they have low sex drives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:43 PM
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I am red pilled, I am part of mgtow. We just live in a selfish “rules for the, but not for me age.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:14 PM
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Good, I want women to avoid high n count men because they suck too. And the truth with those insecurities is that they are valid and are more then likely true. People like to write off insecurities because they are insecurities, but many people are right to have those insecurities. High N count partners are just lower value period. Sucks because you cannot lower your n count, but it is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:15 PM
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Yep, just look at all those “career women” who complain about how men are just too “intimidated” to date them lol. If men cared about status/career/money, abrasive and unattractive career women would be the ones getting wifed up and be the Instagram models of the world. But instead it is young, feminine, innocent looking yet slutty hot women that are what men idealize. A high feminine doctor will beat our her barista equal, but a hotter barista will always beat out a ugly doctor. That is what wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 12:07 PM
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I can understand being irked by how hard he pressed for it. But just think of how desperate someone has to be to go that far for it. When young and desperate, I pushed to far for intimacy and love too. Pushed away a few girls who would have really liked me if they got a chance to know me. It is like a man who is starving for bread, give him food and after a while he will become normal and might even be a really good friend. But while he is starving, he is going to try and rip that piece of bread…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 01:39 AM
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That is because of proximity and because of toe breakers A hot doctor is better then a hot McDonald’s crew member. An ugly doctor is not better then a hot McDonald’s worker though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:41 PM
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Should also say that it is more that they are picking between sexy women. A doctor is not going to pick an ugly doctor over a hot nurse. But will pick the hot doctor over the hot nurse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:39 PM
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Yes, despite what men say, we are emotional creatures. Just watch what he did. He first tried to build a emotional connection with you, then asked for sexual content. He then begged for it for hours because of how desperate he was to get any kind of intimacy and attention from you due to how starved he was. It isn’t about increasing the pleasure, it is about pretending to have a special emotional connection with you. If it was about sexual pleasure, he would just go look up some video on pornhub…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 01:58 PM
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While the actual good person is seen as a pure evil manipulator lol. Bad boy: “I am a going to use your Pussy tonight and there is nothing you can do about it.” Girl: OMG, he is so nice!!!!! Good guy: “Can I go out on a date with you?” Girl: Ewwww Good Guy: “Ugh, women do not like nice guys” Girl: OMG, you just are a fake “nice girl” to get in my pants!!!! You entitled piece of shit!!! Bad Boy: I just fucked your best friend. Sorry babe, you did not give me sex in time and you know I am owed tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 11:02 AM
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It is because men are starved to the point they are desperate. And not of sex, but of attention and intimacy. They are not paying to see you topless, they are paying to have an image of you that they only have (or believe they do) of you topless. It is a side effect of how poorly men are treated in the states (millennial men especially). In other countries, men would never do this as they can just go get intimacy directly from a women they fancy who is young and sexy. Most millennial men settle …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 10:52 AM
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The issue is abundance. Since men are seen as disposable (even though they are not), there worth is tied to how poor the culture is. Even though said abundance is a result of treating men well, everyone alive does not know that. They were born in good times and think that it is the norm when it is the result of countless generations of men’s sacrifice. Now we will crash down and keep crashing until patriarchy is brought back. And it will take a few generations if clean up to get that going after…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:13 AM
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Yep. Also why they get pissed at Chad. He gets it all for free, when they spend years trying to impress women with no luck at l.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:03 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 09:02 PM
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Yes it does. Having to change our very identity to be what women want is oppressive. Just like how making women change who they are for men does.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:55 PM
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Exactly. Stop being the animal rolling around in shit to please women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:54 PM
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I asked if a girl is she was “Jane” once (for a interview) and she responded by saying “not interested” lol. Yes, women think most men who talk to them want sex from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:25 PM
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No, women are smarter then you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 03:58 PM
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And I think that is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 03:56 PM
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It is selfish to make people take care of babies you want for the babies benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 03:56 PM
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No, morality is our selfish rationalizations to justify why x is good but not y.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 03:13 PM
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No, nobody is entitled to anything. You cannot force a man to be a father (or a women to be a mother).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 03:13 PM
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Because being fat is being healthy…in a natural world without abundance. We are not built to live in abundance. So we over-consume and underproduce during abundance. It is also why it is so hard to lose weight. Bring fat is our bodies self-defense mechanism to protect us from starving.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:34 PM
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No, it is the truth. Our nature is very violent and abusive. Civilization and morality is designed to fight biology for our benefit at evolutions “expense.”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:30 PM
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It should be within 30-60 days (exact number is up to debate) of the father receiving legal notice that the mother is pregnant. That way the mother cannot try to trick him by withholding information and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:28 PM
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Doesn’t matter, the child (read: the mother) is not entitled to a father just because he/she was born. Trying to force men to be fathers just does not work. It just results in children being born in shitty lives (women would not have children they could not afford if they could not force the father to pay). How come personal autonomy just goes out the window when it comes to making men pay for shit? The mother can literally dump the child into a orphanage anytime she wants. But a father has to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:27 PM
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This. Most of men’s issues with abortion and such is because of the hypocrisy. We need to just end the hypocrisy and most of the “toxic masculinity” will go away. And those who think “but what about the children” are missing that it would be for the child’s benefit to do this. It means women will no longer have children they cannot afford while banking on forcing the father to pay for the child. Aka less children born in unstable homes. Women need to stop shooting themselves in the foot with “tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:22 PM
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No, men need to deny such oppression. Submitting to it will make the man “low value” to begin with. Men’s job is to defy this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:16 PM
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No, we live in the era of equality and civilization. Demanding men follow traditional gender roles when women are not following there own is sexist as fuck. Stop settling for the idea that men should do what nature intends for them to do when women are doing anything but. It is toxic and just leads to men being exploited and burnt out. We live in a unnatural world following unnatural order and systems. In a natural world, men would be killing and raping like crazy like what happens in all other …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:38 PM
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When men are systematically oppressed, it is natural selection at work and they are being entitled. When women are being entitled and suffering the results of there own poor choices, it is systemic oppression and men must change to fit there unrealistic desires. If you pay attention, it is young men settling for women way below there worth these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:53 PM
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Because the data on dating apps and speed dating show men are realistic in what is average (a good and healthy bell curve). It is women who find 80% of men below average looks wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:49 PM
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The best part (or worst) is that most of those people are artificially touched up. Many by a significant amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:46 PM
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I would add a footnote “unless he is Chad” If a women has attachment issues, she could end up getting with a deadbeat man and taking care of him. Or if he is several points hotter, she will give him more lucky breaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:58 AM
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All relationships have something they want from the other. It doesn’t have to be money, status, sex, etc. Most young couples want the emotional lust feeling from the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:51 AM
14

The truth is masculinity is whatever the fuck society and women want it to be. Men either follow it, or are socially isolated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:50 AM
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Single moms? Perhaps. Chubby? No, most people are overweight in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:49 AM
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Because modern women are spoiled rotten. They think they are entitled to walking around in the middle of an ally frequented by the most violent of gangs without any risk at all. They keep getting privilege after privilege without realizing that people only give them that shit because they have a vagina that they want to use. They live life on easy mode until later in life. And that is when the bitterness sets in as they slowly realize the truth of everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:08 PM
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I wonder if op realizes that in order for there to be a winner, most people HAVE to lose in order for the winner to win. It is a toxic way to view the world and is the cause of all oppression. It is why countries like Sparta fell. Despite how amazing the winners were, the losers were more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:09 PM
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No, the rest of your post was a strawman lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:59 PM
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Love is a modern concept that is based on exploiting people. It was based on the idea of using men and women as cogs in a machines. Women were raised to be spenders of men’s resources (fancy expensive rings, pretty expensive clothing and other expensive status systems) and baby making factories. Women were nothing more then over-glorified carrots on the stick who created more objects to exploit. The women who got a man who spent the most on them was deemed the “winner” of the status game. It is …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:55 PM
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Just because most people do something does not mean there is no issues with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:39 PM
0

I didn't mention CC but as I understand it, you're in favour of it and I think the culture of sleeping around is over-glorified and nobody actually gets that much enjoyment from the "variety". No, I have always been against it. The intimacy and convenience of sex in a relationship is underrated by people who obsess over numbers, they just seem like they have no life or hobbies outside of chasing sex. There are countless other studies showing that because people are social creatures, our brains a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 07:38 PM
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“Aren’t most people in America employed?” Therefore there is no issue with poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:58 PM
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Men are sexually repressed, they use clever word games to hide this lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:54 PM
1

You talk as if there are no confident, hot and good men. No, I am talking about the lack of male role models and the reason why. Nobody cares if you want to sleep around without committing, you are free to do that, but many (if not most) guys will be more than happy to not do that and get a girlfriend. What does the idea that “Many men will be happy to wife up women post CC” have to do with my post? I'm sure you are aware that married men are generally the most happy. No, correlation does not me…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:51 PM
1

What rights will men lose? Is this a serious question? Forcing men to fight a war they do not wish to be part of is taking away quite a few rights. The only humans who expect men to fight for their country are the rich old white conservative career politicians in the White House. The same conservatives responsible for the loss of abortion rights because the poor aren’t churning out enough white humans Yeah sure, only conservatives would do that. Lol Men can do whatever the fuck they want with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:47 PM
1

Who said anything about who was more shallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:43 PM
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If you think the idea that we should incentivize good men so there are good men is so “terrible” then it means that I am yet again right on the money lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 03:37 PM
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Jesus fucking Christ every human being is entitled to bodily autonomy with regards to sex. No, nobody is entitled to anything. It is why Prostitution and many other victimless crimes are illegal already If push comes to shove, men will lose there rights and be forced to fight for the country disregardless of what is said before. And you will be sitting here talking about how important it is for men to die to protect a country against his will. And women are already losing the right to abortion a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 03:35 PM
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Exactly. Why should we care about anything but ourselves? Abortion is made illegal? Slavery made legal? Women losing the right to vote? Why should anybody care? After all… As long as I get mines , which I do , don't care about others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 03:16 PM
1

I was literally replying to you…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 03:14 PM
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A man who commits to you will do so within a few months. They do not hide or delay shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:31 PM
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Yes, it does. People lie and women lie a lot in the mating game to appear better then they are for various reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:30 PM
1

And yet red pill terms like simp are now mainstream and red pill concepts are becoming more and more common to find everywhere. Yeah? How's Scientology working out for ya? Has it been forever yet,
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:29 PM
2

Well, this touches part of a bigger fundamental issue with US’s modern ideology. Where life is all about the self, everyone else solely exists to serve “me.” So it is all about avoiding responsibility while pushing the cost on others. Exploiting others to maximize gains. Morality is whatever benefits the individual above all else. Etc. It is the reason why employers blame workers for being shitty when it is the employers fault as they are not providing enough incentives to get good employees… …W…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:27 PM
1

Except it is getting more and more mainstream just like everything else. Nothing ever remains fringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:22 PM
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Patriarchy is the radical idea that men are equal to women and deserve to be rewarded for what is expected of them. The idea of one woman/man per man/woman is sexual socialism, liberalism. Modern liberals follow a “liberalism for me, conservatism for thee” mantra based on what most benefits them in the short term. While modern conservatives are all about “conservatism for me, liberalism for thee” mantra for the same reason. Aka it is all a farce. Which is also why we do not have a single payer h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 01:21 PM
1

Become mainstream and the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:52 PM
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Society is misandristic…it always was. Traditionalism objectified both genders equally. But because women have innate value and because elite men wanted to use women for sex, the part that disadvantaged women was removed under the guise that we lived in a supposed “patriarchy.” Now we only have half of the old oppressive system in place because it benefits women and society for men to be disposable cogs in the machine. We act like this is all natural and the norm, but that is just to try and mai…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:51 PM
1

Tons of liberal men are in red pill groups too…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:42 PM
1

Like how only rich people follow “just have passion and work hard bro” advice. When you have victory already handed to you, you do not have to know how to win or even how the game is actually played.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:41 PM
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Blue piller mind games 101. First ask for studies that were given many times before. Write off said studies because they do not agree with them while never providing any of there own to counter them (even if they present 50+ legit studies). Then say that they need to go outside and experience the real world. Then they are given countless real life examples of red pill experiences. Tell them that all of his experiences are invalid because they know of one exception that may or may not be true. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:39 PM
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Sadly, being a toxic piece of shit man gets you the most women, best women and best treatment from women. Not because they are master manipulators, but because women like them more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:33 PM
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Consistency is secondary to misandrists. Hating men always comes first. They tell men to negotiate attraction to get sex at all and then tell men that attraction cannot be negotiated so it is okay for women to all chase Chad. They then project that it is men who are the ones who need to be consistent, are entitled, etc when they are at the very least just as inconsistent, entitled, etc as the men they shame are. They feel entitled to men being what they want while demanding that men accept where…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:57 AM
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This. The truth is that sex is one of the most, if not most important things to humanity. Since men are struggling to get sex, it is being sold everywhere for status, money, power, attention, etc. It is also why our sexuality is almost always controlled as it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:55 AM
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And that man is anything but a good male role model lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:52 AM
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Yep. And getting with a girl less attractive then yourself will also hurt your value.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:51 AM
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Yes. Young boys become the man who gets the most love and sex from sexy women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:50 AM
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Yet they will only ever fuck and love men that do not do x
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:09 AM
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Back in the day when ‘real men’ got the most sex and the best women. Hmmmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:09 AM
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They freed them and loved them for who they are for one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:08 AM
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Which is exactly why good/real men are disappearing and why all of society is going to crash. Men are just going to become what gets them the most rewards. And since casual sex is better then LTRs, why would men strive to be good when they are losers or low value in doing so? Until women are willing to fuck ugly good men over attractive bad men again, shut will decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:06 AM
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It seems I am right on the money with this argument. If the only counter argument you can muster is a empty insult, then that means you have nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 11:04 AM
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We do not know Markiplier well enough. And here is the thing, how is he able to be a good male role model to begin with? Because he was rewarded and empowered enough to become one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:44 AM
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No, good male role models need to be seen as the highest value men in society just for being good (the ones who get casual sex, are seen as the coolest, get the most children, etc) so boys can have positive male role models. To just say “boys need good male role models” is like saying “the jobless need more money.” While technically true, the real problem is the jobless need good jobs so they can get the money they need. That is the real problem. Women just do not find men who have value as attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:31 AM
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It is the same reason that super privileged rich people say the shit they do. “Money isn’t important.” “You are lucky for being poor, you have all this free time.” “It is about character, passion and hard work.” “You are just lazy, just go get a job and you will be rich like me.” Etc. Sex even goes beyond the mating game. It will impact what friends, careers you have, your status and even your very core identity. It is one of THE most important things in the human species ever. Landing a sexy wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:22 AM
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In reality, Personality doesn’t matter at all. Even when women are settling down, the “personality” traits they focus on are all about indicators of how useful x shallow trait is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:16 AM
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Because society sees it as the most important thing in existence. It is the only thing that allows the level of abuse and hate that is currently going on. If we switched sex with money (or something else), most of the bullshit going on would be seen as pure evil and laws would be made to fix the unfairness. But because it is sex, life is just unfair lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:15 AM
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The thing with hating and insulting incels in anyway is that it proves them right. Incels argument is that they are hated because they were born unlovable and are hated just because they were born not good enough. So any gaslighting, insults, mockery, etc is factual proof that they are right. The only way to prove incels wrong is for women in there level to actually look past there flaws and pain to actually date them. But that would mean the red pill is wrong when it isn’t wrong. Women get with…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:12 AM
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Incel is the new gay Insulting an acceptable group to hate is what bitter and miserable people do to cope with there misery. They think that because incels are lower value then them (even when said “incel” is more sexually and romantically successful then them), that means they are not losers and failures. It is the experienced forever McDonalds crew member hating the new employee for being less experienced then him/her…even though said new employee is going to go become a software developer in …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:01 AM
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Op thinks women are always telling the truth, always right. While men are always lying and always wrong. So when a women complains about her dating problems, her words are 100% fact even though her actions betray her words. When a man complains about his dating problems, it is because he is lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:43 AM
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Women want men to be the male equivalent Victoria secret models when they are chubby single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:41 AM
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Yes, I did write a troll post making fun of the other stupid posts being posted in that forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:40 AM
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Or smart men will just say fuck it and go do something better. While said manipulation and abuse is what women want, the truth sucks away most of the reasons to get with women in the first place. When you realize that relationships and sex with women is nothing more then a game for women (she will only love you, have sex with you, etc when she loses)….it loses a lot of it’s appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:39 AM
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Tbf, nothing is more boring and lower value then a good responsible man. You think a man that will not abandon his kids deserves to be a father? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 10:08 PM
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No, you do not understand. Those men got her virgin tight, perky tits, skinny, young, innocent, daily blowjobs on demand and fun her. Very low value. These new men get her at a much better place. She now makes 30,000k as a McDonalds manager, is 259 pounds, five kids, seven baby daddies, will search your phone, will have a good day once a year, will treat you like garbage, is ofc so ugly that she is hotter then ever before and will fuck you a few times a year…maybe even five times a month…WHAT A …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 10:07 PM
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Nah, that is just slightly below average. Slightly above average would be like being super man. Just meh, almost impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 09:58 PM
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…what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 09:56 PM
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More strawmans
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 09:55 PM
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Damn straight. If someone is not secure with accepting me as I am, why the fuck should I care about being what they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:19 PM
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Yep, but definitely do not improve yourself to meet these absurd standards. Not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:01 PM
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No, it means half of married people are so unhappy they divorced. Many could very well be miserable and remain happy for the children, because divorce is to expensive to afford, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:59 PM
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Well ofc, she is 40+ years old. None of them are going to be mind blowing for she is pretty low value at her age.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:57 PM
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Tbh, the way he uses incel and the way he brags and tries to act like it is easy…yet contradicts himself several times, I would not be shocked if he is one step above a incel. But he is tall, so he probably has no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:55 PM
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No, I said what I said. Nothing more, nothing less.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:54 PM
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I literally just quoted you saying that it would “make women weak at the knees”. So according to you, yes it would be enough to drive women while..and no, it would not even be enough to be seen as “impressive” according to your opening post. You keep on contradicting yourself. Do you think a woman earning 60k whose been sixth months training and now at a healthy weight is entitled to be a bitch? Yes. She would not even need to make money at all. She would just need to be semi-hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:53 PM
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No, I said No, we do not know that. Many married couples take years to even admit they are unhappy at all. And many happy couples could be quite miserable in private. We have a near 50% divorce rate for crying out loud. And that is divorce, nothing on all the “cheaper to keep her” marriages and the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:46 PM
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Are you an alt of op? Op literally said what I quoted
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:45 PM
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They have gone all the way around the world at this point lol. You can literally use quotes from op to form two completely opposing arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:57 PM
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You literally said: And yes, I'm going to straight up say 80k in say New York or 6 months of lifting can, will or even should make a large section of women weak at the knees. ESPECIALLY when these same duds will claim "oh I make a ton of money and I'm in good shape and I can't laid". And also said that earning 80k is “not impressive” Implying that men who complain about dating that are in shape are all lying because they are men. That they just need to put in a little bit of effort and they will…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:56 PM
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No, I am saying that are counter argument does not make logical sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:49 PM
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No, it is saying we do not know enough about the individual couples lives to know if they are happy or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:49 PM
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Bulllshit. Men who hate themselves and hate women get tons of pussy. The mating game is shallow. If you are attractive, you get sex. If not, you do not get sex. The end.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:47 PM
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Because women are always the victim and men the perpetrator. When in reality it is the opposite for only she and she alone has authority over her mating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:45 PM
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“Poverty is a myth for there are people who are rich”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:44 PM
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You literally said I'm going to straight up say 80k in say New York or 6 months of lifting can, will or even should make a large section of women weak at the knees. Now you are implying it is about the personality lol. You are literally changing your argument and views to get the end result you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:43 PM
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Yeah bs, there is no way to tell said things about someones personality like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:41 PM
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No, we do not know that. Many married couples take years to even admit they are unhappy at all. And many happy couples could be quite miserable in private. We have a near 50% divorce rate for crying out loud. And that is divorce, nothing on all the “cheaper to keep her” marriages and the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:39 PM
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Op thinks a man who is buff and earns 80K is “not impressive.” And men who complain all are lying as they will have “women on there knees” if they hit the gym for six months, while the women in there 40s who complain about there dating options are 100% honest and it is proof that men are all lazy ugly losers. Pretty obvious that op is just a misandrist that thinks women are good and men are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:36 PM
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According to op, no they always tell the truth. And it is always men’s fault too.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:32 PM
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And apparently it is not impressive for a man to make 80K himself. Not even enough to be worthy of the average women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:30 PM
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I was going to call out your BS but Lovers691 already did a better job then I could lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:29 PM
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You mean not obese, women are largely accepted for being chubby if it hits the right places lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:04 PM
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No, he is saying men lie. Women who complain are always telling the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:03 PM
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Being in the top 30% of anything is impressive…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 02:00 PM
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Strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 01:58 PM
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Even if it doesn’t, it is pretty obvious he is either lying or is withholding something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 01:57 PM
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Op thinks a man earning 80,000+ and is buff is “not impressive.” And that every man who says he is struggling is lying while every woman is struggling is honest. So I would take op’s word with a grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 01:12 PM
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You said you were 6 foot 4. That puts you in the top 5% of men by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 01:10 PM
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Op thinks making 80,000 and being buff is not impressive. The people here in this thread believe that men have to meet incredibly unrealistic expectations (aka be in the top 20%) to be average lol. Red Pill is right on the money according to the naysayers in this thread. They just think trashing it makes it wrong because they disagree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 01:09 PM
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So wub1234 is right on the money. When a woman complains about her poor options, it is: She lamented about how she's still struggling to find moderately attractive guys who are consistent and not entitled/crazy. She's a good looking woman, great shape and in her 40s. But when a man is in shape and makes good money, it is: "oh I make a ton of money and I'm in good shape and I can't laid" You take a woman’s word as absolute fact without analyzing her actions while you immediately call every man wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 01:05 PM
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Modern Relationships (especially marriage) are unnatural. Our culture literally restricts, raises us to see modern relationships as normal and sables is to want that relationship. This is done because of $$$$$ and getting others to do what we want. What we find attractive is shaped by society and our environment. And we are not “simple biological creatures” we still are incredibly ignorant of our psychology and still do not have any idea what the “soul” is. Those relationships also tend to be mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 10:15 AM
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Yes, it is incredibly unhealthy and it hurts the girl in question. Women do it all the time, it leads to self-esteem issues, mental health issues, co-dependency and many other toxic things. It is not self-improvement, it is exploiting her for men’s sake. And it is also why our society doesn’t stand for it. Why we have body positivity movements for women and raise men to accept women/‘ body imperfections.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 10:10 AM
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And that is toxic as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 10:07 AM
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Yes, “improving yourself” for women (read: change to be what they want you to be) is toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 05:50 PM
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People here all the time. It is why I got so many upvotes, people see shit like that here every week.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 05:49 PM
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That hasn't been my experience. I enjoy being in a relationship with the right person. When it's the wrong person, it's a hassle. People who always have bad relationships - the common denominator is them. What are you arguing here? Men can be what they want, too. They just don't have the balls to hold out in the west because they want sex more than women do. No, it is because we raise men to think sex is far more important then it truly is, raise them poorly so they have low self-esteem and rest…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 05:48 PM
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Holy oversimplification. Improving yourself to get a girl is toxic as fuck. A person should only improve for themselves. Especially since relationships with women are RESPONSIBILITIES and BURDENS, not a reward. Like another job or two. It can be satisfying and fulfilling, but a job is a job. Which is why we gaslight men into thinking they HAVE to get a woman, raise men to depend on women for intimacy, value sex as we do, etc. The idea that men have to change for women is trying to make it a exte…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 04:52 PM
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The original poster literally went on to argue against my point directly. Meaning I am right on the money. The problem with your argument is that you are trying to change reality itself to change the original argument to try and discredit me without directly engaging. Disappointing to say the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 02:18 PM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 12:31 PM
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Some are. therefore it isn’t women’s fault when they pick abusive men You literally just wrote my argument for me. “Some are, therefore women are not at fault for picking an abusive man” Literally what you said. Aka you think women are not at fault, men always are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 12:31 PM
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Aka good guys are actually evil, therefore it isn’t women’s fault when they pick abusive men. Funny how you give women an excuse for everything. Women married an abusive man? His fault for not changing into the man she is entitled too. So it is his and only his fault. Women rejected good men in favor of said abusive man she is now divorcing? Oh, she actually made the right choice. You see, that “good man” is a manipulative monster while the misogynistic man who looks down on women is actually th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 12:16 PM
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The fact that they married him at all proves it. Otherwise she would have fucked and married the nice guy first.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 11:31 AM
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But you get a used up single mom after she is done fucking drug dealers and bums who abused the shit out of her. Doesn’t that sound like something to sacrifice your life to take care of? You might even get half-assed sex 5 times a month. 10/10
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 11:29 AM
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Charisma is just frame manipulation. It is about manipulating someone to do what you want in a subtle gentle way to get what you want out of them. It is not kindness or warm at all. Those traits are only used as a way to cover up the manipulation. It is why dark triads are so good at it and why naturally kind and warm people suck at it. It is also why women like it, it indicates a man who is skilled at getting what he wants. If humans were not a locust like species, we would be disgusted by it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 11:26 AM
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This. The problem with blue pill arguments here is that we actually do (or atleast did) follow there advice. We went outside and see/saw red pill after red pill. Hard to tell a red piller that you know x fat good man get a model when he experiences the exact opposite every single day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 11:24 AM
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No, when you say shit like that they just gaslight you. That is why they get to the point of bitching about Chad to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:40 PM
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He is not saying anything should happen. He is saying that modern women’s standards can be seen as pretty damn “out of control” not that any action should take place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:38 PM
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Most incels are just men who were abused as boys who cannot get a girl because they are too emotionally damaged now. They vent in forums (which is never pretty). They are just a symptom of the wider issue of rampant accepted misandry in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:17 PM
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Unfairness for thee, fairness for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:14 PM
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Well, if a man went out shirtless and complained about women staring at his six pack. Saying the women who looked are rapists. Wouldn’t you just think he is stupid too? If you do not want someone to look, just do not show it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:12 PM
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Depends on what your believes and values are. If you believe life starts at conception, then it is murder. If not, then it is good. That is really why it is fought against. You could say it is stupid to believe life starts at conception, but they honestly believe it does and so they think it is evil. Just like who people believe men should be forced to pay for children they do not want for the sake of the child, infringing on his freedoms to force him to take responsibility even if he was baby t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:09 PM
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That isn’t restricting access, that is telling the truth. If a girl is complaining she cannot get the man she wants, then the issue is that her standards are too high. So either she lowers her standards or becomes worthy of the man she wants. It isn’t on men to meet her standards. People here say the same to men all the damn time. And men who want women with low N counts have every right to have that standard and bitch how slutty modern women are. Just as women bitch about men not being what the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:05 PM
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This is a good point. It is that old Chinese tale (if someone remembers the name, please tell me…I want to look it up fully again). A general and his army were late to a gathering spot. The general turned to his army and asked: “What is the punishment for being late?” His army shouted: “death!!!” The general then asked: “What is the punishment for rebelling?” His army shouted: “Death!!!” And so they rebelled in a long bloody conflict that resulted in countless unneeded deaths. If you treat a gro…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 12:01 PM
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Because dating doesn’t exist in a vacuum. It is going to have bad negative effects on society as a whole that will get exponentially worse until people in charge start changing the narrative and pushing new moralities and ideals onto the masses. Infrastructure will continue to decline, supply chains will keep declining, overall production will decline, there will be less and less children, unrest will continue to rise, single motherhood will run rampant, jails will be overflowing with prisoners.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 10:18 AM
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Sigh
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 10:32 PM
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Many toxic conservative men like liberal women for fun. They are the whores, conservative women are the madonnas.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:24 PM
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The ideology is misogyny and misogyny kills thousands of women every year. What are you talking about? Misogyny a ideology? The truth is that they are not what you are saying, end of story. You keep trying to lump them into bigger groups to try and make them look more evil then they really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:17 PM
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10/10 post. Op misses the nuance of differing experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 07:44 PM
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Sorry, I meant over 50 in the US and Canada alone. Over six years…aka basically zero when compared to ANYTHING else that kills people. If we brought in deaths caused by beliefs that incels promote, the number goes way up. Like what? Dishonestly including Nazis or some be to try and make your argument sound better? Virgin men aren’t a threat. “Virgin men who accept being losers with a smile on there face without complaining are not a threat. Those that do are all violent terrorists.” The incel co…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 06:52 PM
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Exactly, they will do nothing. And as a result everything is declining.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:46 PM
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Immigration isn’t working anymore. Outside labor is not as cheap as it use to be and they are just taking the power we give them for themselves. That is why they are starting to care about birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 05:45 PM
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You would be surprised how fast things change. Things never stay the same. What will happen is men will get increasingly fed up and eventually go herbivore. Western governments are already getting worried about the lack of children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:42 PM
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By realizing that they are just a random woman. There is 2 trillion other clones that are just as pretty as her. Who cares what she thinks of you individually?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:39 PM
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That was just a question man. I am not interested in mind games. I was just curious what you found most important because I have no idea. I was always confused as to why women get with hot guys who are bad at sex, I just want to know how powerful the draw to them is. For men, it is incredibly strong. But we can just make ourselves cum if she just starfishes and enjoy the view. So even if she is shit, we can still get enjoyment out of it. But women cannot do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:38 PM
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And a comedy. Tragedy is comedy. It is why the first few acts are pure comedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 04:31 PM
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Oh, by bad. Then he should limit himself to his partner count or lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:42 PM
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What would be better for you? Someone who is meh attractive wise but good at sex or someone who is sexy but is meh at sex? Just curious
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:42 PM
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Modern women still want traditional male gender roles while they are accepted for who they are. Also why modern ltrs and marriage is such a mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 11:51 AM
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Yep. Easier said then done though. But not an excuse. Go out, get rejected a hundred times and then realize you did not lose a damn thing. The modern world is stupid by scaring men, but ignore it. It is just a shit test.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 11:49 AM
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This. You have to be ready to make many women uncomfortable to get success. You will be found creepy by a ton of women. You will fuck up a ton. You will ask out a hundred women and ALL will say no. Then you will land one babe hotter then them all who will find you cool for the same things that made you creepy before. If a girl likes you, she will make it nearly impossible to fail. If she doesn’t, she will make it nearly impossible to win. All the rationalizations she makes to justify the yes or …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 11:00 AM
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I would say this will change in the future (assuming there is no set back) as men’s rights will become really big in a hundred years or so. Freeing men from there oppressive gender rolesZ
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 10:55 AM
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God believes marriage should be between virgins. Mary Magdalene never married because of her past. She spent the rest of her life repenting for her sexual sins. That is why she was forgiven for her sins. Repentance use to be a life long thing with people getting on there knees and begging God for mercy. Modern Christianity has sold out religion for $$$$$. So repentance is about getting in a little box and saying you are sorry (often not even saying the actual sin) and then being told to say Hail…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 10:46 AM
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Emotional intimacy and affection is a lie. The only one who needs to love you is you. External validation is empty and a weakness that exists to be exploited.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 10:39 AM
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Yep. Women are literally a drug to men. That is all really. The rest is just our emotions and body care laying tricks on us to keep us from looking the truth in the eye. We see someone hot and rationalize why his personality is amazing and vice versa. That is it. As men get older, they start to realize this. It is also why women are designed to keep sex rare. If it was plentiful, men would never commit to women. Same is true with women. As soon as women got the ability to provide for themselves,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 10:30 AM
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Why do men want relationships at all anyways? It is just a form of exploitation. Just hookup or see hookers. All the emotions bs is just that, bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 10:23 AM
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That makes me think you are not romantic. The point of romance is to give something the other side wants in a sweet caring way. What you think is romantic is not what he thinks is romantic unless he also wants the same exact gestures as you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 10:04 AM
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Romeo and Juliet is a comedy mocking teenage romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 10:00 AM
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I think women are the actual sexual deviants of the species and men were the emotional romantics. But our culture raised us to be different for the sake of what the other gender wanted more or less. Men are the ones who marry over and over, women are usually done after one marriage and often only marry for money. Women are the ones who love bdsm and shit, men more or less just want the sex itself and just appeal to what women want. Men are the ones who invented poetry and tend to be obsessed wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:58 AM
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It was a way to fight nature and create “equality” between the sexes funnily enough. Basically, everyone got a family and has a stake in society. Led to civilization as we know it really. Even the cultures that did and do have polygamy rely on monogamy to keep most men cooperative. Without it, we are starting to go back to our violent animalistic roots. With everyone just backstabbing each other and selfishly pushing everyone down. We have forgotten this and think that it was about oppressing wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:47 AM
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So over six years, they only killed 50 people…. That is nothing. https://ourworldindata.org/terrorism Islamist extremists kill 21,000 per year. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/ Police kill about a 1000 people per year. …42 people die annually because of toilets for crying out loud. I could go on and on. But 50 in 6 years is nothing in a world where 1000s upon 1000s die monthly. And calling them a terrorist threat is just a way to hate sexually uns…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 09:45 AM
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Monogamy was invented to force one man/woman for every man/woman. Throughout most of history, women only slept with a much smaller number of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 07:26 PM
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From experience. Most clubs do not even allow single men at all around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 05:26 PM
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Bullshit, most are not looking for MMF threesomes. Long term “real” swingers? I can believe that. But most just want a third girl to use.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:45 PM
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How much of that would you say is because of there lack of success?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:43 PM
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The real question is why do people trust what people say about these things. Even if they think they are telling the 100% truth it is too biased to make any judgements alone. Take all these people talking about the socially akward incels for example. On the surface, people will think it means “oh, they just need to get better social skills.” In reality, it is highly likely that the lack of previous success with women led to them being socially awkward in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 04:41 PM
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No arguments? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:56 PM
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Who said anything about 70% of anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:56 PM
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Then you have seen it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:25 PM
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If your goal is to get a man period, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:25 PM
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Who said anything about top anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 01:24 PM
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It is (or atleast get variety). That or try to get her Chad a side piece or threesome (I did that before). The amount of legit polyamory relationships (like ones that are couple with couple) are rare. It is usually either consensual cheating or getting Chad a threesome. Also why it is hard to find a third girl, most treat the third as a fun sex toy over a person. The few that do are often not hot enough to get her attention before she gets tired of being used.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:26 PM
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Not even about being fit. Often species die out because the least fit win because of poor mating criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:20 PM
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https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/men-who-do-housework-have-less-sex/ A February paper in the American Sociological Review reported that married couples in which men take on a greater share of the dishes, laundry and other traditionally female chores had sex less often than average, which in this study was about five times a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:19 PM
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It is always to discredit the idea that women have high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:17 PM
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Yeah no. Pretty sure the only requirement men mention here is “just do not be fat” and to avoid high n count women. Nothing about the women being hot at all. The only ones who mention high standards here are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:07 PM
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Ok Edit: we literally have a woman poster in this thread saying they do not like manly men already lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:05 PM
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Cohabitation kills relationships period. People become to familiar with one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:53 AM
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I like to stay on topic. Make another thread and get the answer your want there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:51 AM
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Yes, happens all the time here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:50 AM
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Is it that they do not get it? Or that they already know but do not want to admit the truth out of pride?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:09 AM
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Seriously? That is what you got out of my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 11:08 AM
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Breaking news!!! Women like masculine men! OMG More news at 11. Besides the blue pill empty anecdotal arguments (ex: every fat feminine man I know is married to a super model and is getting porn star level sex on a daily basis with his smooth dish washing skills), is anyone surprised? Like at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 10:35 AM
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How you are perceived, not what your real value is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:04 AM
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Depends on how sexy the women are in the group.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 05:20 PM
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Yep. The best thing for a man to do is go somewhere where he is in the top 20%. If you are among models, you will be ugly. But if you are the hottest in a room of ugly men, you can get the hottest women in the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:32 PM
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No, it is more that being in the top 20% puts you in the “average and above group.” Not the “top tier group.” Top 5 percent are the ones who get easy success.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:27 PM
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Tbf, I felt the same as a man before. When we are attracted to someone, we think they are the hottest person in existence and have perfectly compatible personalities. When we are not attracted to someone, we think they are unattractive and our personalities are not compatible at all. Even though the person we are not attracted to is often more attractive and a better match for us all things considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:11 PM
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Impossible to tell. Intelligence doesn’t work like that. You are basically asking something akin to “who is better at sports? A professional football play or soccer player?” When it is impossible to say who is better without taking into account empty bias. Tons of intelligent people do not even go to college as they are picking the financially smart path over academically smart path. And intelligent people do dumb things. Just because someone is smart does not mean they are not stupid in certain…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 11:03 AM
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Yeah no, male standards are on the floor. Fat Prostitutes are charging 350+ per hour in America and unattractive women can get marches like never before. However, this is fucking with young girls self esteem and makes them think they need to do more then ever to be attractive. But it has never been easier to get a man really. In the past, women over 25, women who were fat, women who were not submissive, etc were undatable and just mocked as spinsters. Men are not hypergamous, but women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:54 AM
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You are right. It is the same as - woman who quits casual sex when she figures out all the men she can get only want her for sex lol. But apparently it is okay to objectify men and pretend that it is for his benefit lol. You either be her dildo or be there her beta bux, makes relationships pretty damn pointless. Men just need to say no to marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 10:49 AM
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No because I am straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 01:17 PM
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Men are not socialized to hate women and view them as slaves. They are socialized to view women as there purpose in life and get disappointed when that doesn’t match up with reality. We were raised to see women as these pure angels and then see them being just as shitty as men. We get pissed and feel betrayed. The real issue is that we want a traditional partner that accepts us for who we are without us changing anything about ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 11:10 AM
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Yep. Just swipe for a bit and not care if you do not get a match.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 10:59 AM
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That is because men stupidly fuck down. Women just respond by raising there standards. And they do this for women are not sexually liberal enough, so men have to lower there standards to get there sexual needs met. And this happens because we are not built for sex with birth control. But what you say is true. My female looksmatch was treated as far more pretty then me because she was “easy” for the high value men to fuck. I was confused at the time for I was naive as fuck. Even chubby girls are …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 10:56 AM
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This. I find that both genders tend to overestimate how attractive there own gender is though. In reality, a average man is equal to a average woman. Some men and women are stunning no matter what, but most are meh.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 10:49 AM
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It is easy to get a wedding band, hard to get a girl that will actually love and fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 09:56 AM
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It isn’t that they are shallower, they are just way more picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 09:55 AM
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Aka be a beta bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 09:52 AM
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And after all that he gets the privilege of wifing up some fat single mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 12:49 AM
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Yep. And once it happens you cannot just go back. Experience changes expectations. Someone sleeping with a model is not going to enjoy sex with his/her looksmatch the same as before. Porn does cause unrealistic expectations. But so does online dating, tinder, social media center, casual sex, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 07:48 PM
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It isn’t that women are “surpassing” men, they just have a elevator ride to the top. Scholarships, “women for x” clubs/programs, positive reinforcement, quota hires, free mentorship, people rushing in to mother/father then when they are crying, etc. Men have to do it all themselves and they have no safety nets. One mistake is enough to damn a man’s chance to get status.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 07:45 PM
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Aka a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 07:01 PM
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“Black people are only treated like trash if they try to get a job. Therefore the claim that black people are treated like trash is baseless.”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 07:00 PM
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Yes, men cheating on there hot wives with obese women is the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 06:57 PM
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If all men wanted was sex with non-fat people they wouldn't cheat on their skinny wives, husbands, girlfriends, or boyfriends with fat people. Exceptions prove the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:25 PM
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No the narrative never changed. The “all she needs to is not be fat” is a comparison to show that men’s standards are reasonable, often too low. Playing semantics to say “but, but men expect her to be an adult too” to try and defeat that argument is just a way to win without targeting narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 04:03 PM
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Exactly why you are wrong. Men do not want slim pretty faces, they just want someone not fat..BECAUSE they want the person and do not give much fucks about looks beyond being fuckable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:33 PM
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Dude, men are simple. They just want a girl who is not fat. If there are two girls who are not fat that they can fuck, then they pick the one who makes 40,000, isn’t a total bitch and is not fat. And as you just said, they ask for basic shit like 40,000. Not six figures, giant ass titty super models (six foot tall equivalent) sex god virgins A woman who is thin and the best they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:59 PM
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Yes, because that is absolutely what MRA advocates fight for a and say causes it. Just Because no one will touch his pp.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:54 PM
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I said it a lot of times before. But we are just in another civil rights cycle. Incel is the new gay/Jew/spinster/etc used to shame the new flavor of the month hated and oppressed group. We demonize them, act like they are the hateful ones, tell them they are not entitled to x, shame them the same exact way etc. As we age, current liberals will become the new bigoted boomers. There hatred will become increasingly obvious to see and they will reframe there believes to try and rationalize away why…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:50 PM
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Women actually think that lol. They think that men who do not give a fuck about them and are willing to do whatever it takes to use them for sex are higher value because of the confidence and IDGF attitude they have for them. Then everyone bitches about what men have become. Incentivize traitorous, dishonest men who are lazy, arrogant and never take responsibility for anything while Mocking and belittling good men who are trying but inexperienced. 2 get pissed how low value men have become. 3 ??…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:37 PM
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But none of them stand against the women saying that shit or the abusive shit that happens to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 11:47 AM
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Yeah, it is common sense really and true with everything else. Someone who is gifted success on a silver platter in x is going to have a more positive outlook on x because of his/her personal experiences with it. Career? A person who is given a free path to a good job a going to think it is all about hard work and with enough effort everything is achievable even though it was handed to him on a silver platter. But someone who can only get job at McDonald’s is going to rightfully believe that har…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 11:44 AM
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Nope, it is far less then that. There is no correlation between incels and mass shooters. Even the incel shooters shared the same correlations that the other mass shooters had. We just ignore them as our solution to the problem is that it is okay if these failed boys kill and it is preferable, but it should only be themselves and a handful of others. So we aim to limit the damage done by banning guns, sedating them with SSRIs and have therapy to try and make them as useful as possible. Mass shoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 12:27 AM
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This. Relationships are not the end goal of life, they are part of life. Relationships are honestly about growing together. And honestly, we never fully understand ourselves. We think we do, but then tomorrow we discover that we are completely different then we thought we were yesterday.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 04:55 PM
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Yes, they definitely do
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 01:18 PM
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Gold diggers literally deceive men for a decade to maximize divorce payouts. And no, you do not need “good social skills.” All you need to be is hot. Part of deception is the victim opening themselves up to to be abused because they are damaged and vulnerable. It is why the only solution to help victims is to help them heal there trauma. If the perpetrator was instead a good person, the victim would reject them and then find another abuser to manipulate them instead. Not because the victim is at…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 12:09 PM
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Then how do all these women get deceived my master manipulators for years? Funny how the narrative changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 02:52 AM
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No, out of self-respect and self-love. Destroying your character for pussy will just lead to regret later down the line. Regret how little it all came to amount to and how ashamed they will be of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 10:53 PM
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I am not a woman you are flirting with, red pill frame manipulation does not work on me. If you want to debate, debate. Otherwise I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 09:53 PM
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Your counter argument is to downvote me and say a empty one liner. I stand by what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 09:45 PM
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Still shit. Only a coward would refuse to take responsibility like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 09:41 PM
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Hating people for literal cheating is stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 09:34 PM
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Uhhh, you can definitely hate the player.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 09:07 PM
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Bad argument. The more obvious one is that taken men and single women do not bother coming here as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 06:00 PM
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Then go tell the medical research division of Yale that they are dumb then. https://www.abc57.com/news/losing-a-long-term-spouse-can-be-deadly-studies-show https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2636447/ Results. For both men and women, the death of a predecedent spouse from almost all causes, including various cancers, infections, and cardiovascular diseases, increased the all-cause mortality of the bereaved partner to varying degrees. Moreover, the death of a predecedent spouse from any …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 05:53 PM
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Those studies show that men ACT like and SAY they are more attractive then they really are, not that they THINK they are more attractive then they really are. Women like confidence, so men act with confidence. So it isn’t really proof of anything (in this context).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 02:46 PM
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All one has to do is look at all the men taking steroids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 02:14 PM
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Exactly, my money is all for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:27 PM
1

Damn straight. Ain’t no pussy worth making six figures for.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 07:10 PM
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“Just earn six figures bro”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:10 PM
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No, the solution is to just find someone more reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:38 PM
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1 and 2 are far harder to fill then you are letting on. What women find attractive are men who are Victoria secret level in physique. A six pack requires the man to have a unhealthy low amount of bmi. And “financially secure” is “make six figures.”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:35 PM
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This isn’t a me problem this is the problem of the 19 men. She literally says that men who do not meet her standards are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:32 PM
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While many men (perhaps arguably most) fought in wars to get women, it was far from the only reason for wars to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 02:20 PM
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Men are simps. They will give up there entire believe structure for more sex. More news at 11
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 02:17 PM
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Shhh, nobody wants to mention the reality that the women men want are just as fat and ugly as them. They want to pretend that men want super models.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 12:02 PM
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This isn’t a me problem this is the problem of the 19 men. Yeah, she directly said this is a them problem
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 12:01 PM
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No, your high standards are not a man problem. It is a you problem. You are not entitled to men becoming super models or rich billionaires to please you. You are not special enough to motivate men to do that. Demanding men be the equivalent of a male Victoria secret model to be attractive at all is exactly what men here are bitching about. 1 out of 20 men…I mean really. That means tons of skinny, well kept men are ugly in your eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 12:00 PM
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She wanted a bad boy. And as for why, I wanted marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 03:56 PM
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No, not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 03:33 PM
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Well, I was shorter back then ofc. And I was aiming for a relationship with a specific girl, not trying to get sex. Getting sexy in general is pretty easy because of my height.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 03:32 PM
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Because I loved her for real. She was smart, she stood up and spoke her mind, she had an amazing laugh, she was mature and ambitious, she was someone I could just spend my entire lift just taking too. She never wore makeup and was always incredibly boyish. She had really cute fair skin, beautiful colored hair and the most beautiful eyes I have seen to this day. I seriously wanted to marry her and saved myself exclusively for her. I dreamed of riding Ferris wheels with her, starting at the stars …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:07 PM
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No, you cannot change who you are. All you can do is put on masks and cover it up to play as someone else. Which you can call changing yourself, but add enough stressors and the mask will fall off.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 11:57 AM
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Well. I am 6 foot 4. Was the top of my class. Was one of the best high-school programmers in the entire state of Michigan in my sophomore year. I was the polite gentleman who respected women. I was funny, kind and gentle. Was humble and responsible. …then I asked a girl out, got rejected for being “too nice” and watched her date the biggest bum in school. Fucked up my mind because of how it clashed with how I was raised.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 11:11 AM
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Done
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 11:05 AM
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I was told to be nice and polite. That women did not care about looks at all and only cared about personality. I put a ton of effort into being the perfect real man. It earned me the label “the one who women will want to wife up first.” Reality told me a different story ofc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 10:56 AM
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Basically they are telling you women suck, but gimme grand children because I am selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 10:43 AM
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It definitely is. Women focus on the few men with bad hygiene they see, while ignoring the countless who have good hygiene for they are the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 09:55 AM
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Men care what women want, atleast the ones who want to date and fukk them do. People only care about men who are valuable in society, if you're not no one will care. That's why men must constantly improve and build their value. No, it is why men must stop giving a fuck about society. Men do not exist for society. It is the other way around. This is just women's nature. They are hypergamous, there's nothing we can do about it but adapt and improve. Complaining about it won't change anything. No, …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 09:53 AM
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Aka Women only care about shallow shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 11:29 PM
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No. Men don’t date women based on potential. They don’t date fat chocks in hope of them getting skinny one day. Um, yeah. Many do. Sometimes it works out. Sometimes it doesn’t. But it will always work out like that. Women should not date potential- why? Because men don’t value loyalty - they are the first to leave their partners when they get sick . Ummm, yes they do. So all men value loyalty? No. Maybe women should then value men who value loyalty then. Like men who do not want a hoe should not…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 11:08 PM
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That is because men die sooner. Men whom are married live as long as possible for there wife. Women whom lose there husband are crushed by the stess and fall to demoralization. Usually be at of heart break syndrome.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 11:04 PM
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Your main goal in improvement shouldn't be women. You should improve every aspect of your life to raise the quality and longevity of your life. Women should just be a bonus to this. No, men should do as they please. Endlessly “improving” oneself is futile and pointless. What if he never gets there, women don't want a work in progress, they want the finished product. Who cares what women want? Does anybody care what men want? No. So why should men care? All spoiling women with what they want toda…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 11:03 PM
3

Tons do people get houses making 60,000
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 06:30 PM
6

Virgins are not incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 06:29 PM
2

This isn’t about just money. You have to spend time maintaining a relationship, it is the equivalent of a part time job.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 04:51 PM
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No, because women are a net negative. They ask for more then they contribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:45 PM
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Why try to stop the decline? At that point, why should anyone care about anything but what benefits them. Why should I care if women lose the right to vote or abortion? Why should I care if people in Ukraine are being killed and raped? Why should I care about poor people around me? Etc. We are not just individuals, we are individuals living together. Said mentality is why oppression and bigotry and oppression exist. What's this bs about priveleges and shit? I pay my rent, with money from work I …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:44 PM
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Only if you assume that she will contribute equally and spend just as much as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 03:05 PM
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It is incredibly misandristic to imply that the reasons men have dropped out of the labour force is because they can’t find a women to date. Most humans are weak and stupid. Even those that are among the most intelligent of humans are stupid animals that are slaves to our instincts. Just thing of the average person, half of all humans are less intelligent then him. I agree the problems you’ve listed but your solution is to strip women their rights ? Seriously ? No, I believe that is what is most…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:55 PM
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Dude, tons of misogynistic men get girls all the time. And tons of hardcore male feminists cannot get girls no matter what they do. Trump became president of the United States and tons of women voted for him full well knowing what kind of man he is. Incel men aren’t going to cause the collapse of society. Most of them are obese with no friends. Women are financially independent now, that’s why they have higher standards. The supply chain and infrastructure breakdowns are literally because men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 02:22 PM
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Then you would have mentioned women’s role instead of omitting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:51 PM
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Why women should discard their advantages they have now, and why this situation is a problem to begin with? Because things will get exponentially worse until either women become reasonable or the government steps in to force women to be so to maintain order. The issue with your argument is that you are assuming women are owed what they have and are more valuable then what they are truly worth. The only reason women have what they currently have is because of the good faith of men and those at th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:51 PM
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You are right, but why did you only tell men to improve themselves? That is one of the core problems here. Men are burning out from putting in endless effort for women who are not what they want at all and getting nothing to show for it. So they are all becoming unattractive due to the lack of success they have gotten previously. Men need to improve themselves, but only when women’s standards become realistic and they also start improving themselves too. Instead of demanding someone make 60,000 …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 11:54 AM
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Well it makes sense right? Date down and they will accept worse in other areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 01:52 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 05:17 PM
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About the last paragraph. While it is true that no one person can help a broken person alone. It requires a lover and the broken person to fix the broken person most of the time. The issue is that it is rarely one or the other, both are needed to fix the traumatized victim. Also, psychotherapy doesn’t help fix anything. They exist to make someone accept there trauma and use medication to tranquilize there issues to keep them functional so they do not hurt others or themselves. Aka they treat bro…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 03:25 PM
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No, they are just trying to gaslight men into accepting being used. To set the precedent that she will only give sex infrequently and he must earn it via his commitment. The moment she sleeps with several men on the first date, it is too late to go back to withholding sex and seeing it as special. In matter of fact, sex is only special is she has a n-count less then 5 or so. If sex is special, she will only have it in long term relationships at best (one’s always headed to marriage) and dress in…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 02:54 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 02:45 PM
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Yes, but you obviously refused to understand mine. You cannot counter the personal experiences of all the men here with one supposed counter experience. Especially one that is obviously not the norm based on my own experiences. It doesn’t matter what people say, only the actions involved. So unless the anecdotal matches the experiences of the one you are arguing against, it cannot be an effective counter and will be promptly seen as a exception You can start an argument with a singular anecdotal…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 02:44 PM
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Hey, it works. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/sfioe8/comment/huqxbg1/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 Science even says so lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 02:38 PM
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Yeah, like this post https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/sfioe8/comment/huqxbg1/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 And the many posts filled with studies about n counts. Or the studies about sexless rates (Telegraph one that notes 55% of men are sexless, the one that notes 30% of men are virgins and the other one that notes 34% of men are sexless). Even the 80/20 rule is based on studies (not arguing if the studies are not enough or not here). The only studies blue…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 02:38 PM
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The obsession of womens attempts to silence the truth via empty empty shame attacks and strawmans needs to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 02:32 PM
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Yes, that is how blue pillers keep the truth hidden. By preying on the possibility that exceptions exist based on baseless anecdotals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 11:52 AM
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Lol, if you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 11:50 AM
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The best way to get a woman’s sexual best (if that is all you care about), is becoming a buff abusive drug dealer with a criminal record. IDK what is with all these useless Q4W threads though. Women will obviously just say things that will not work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 11:29 AM
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No, they will even be hated out of jealousy for it lol. We are a species that worship and empower monsters like Hitler and Stalin. While killing people of character and are good.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 11:10 AM
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Apex fallacy. White men are just assumed to be in the top 20% because they are white (benevolent sexism). Asian men are stereotyped as being needy STEM women overachievers. The perfect beta bux. Even when it comes to k-pop stars, they are worshipped for there status and shit. They look at the Asian men at the top and stereotype all Asian men. Google even includes them with whites as a privileged class for this reason. The mating game is really stupid when you understand it. It is the most bigote…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 11:01 AM
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Being seen as a good beta bux option because of sterotypes (Asian men are assumed to be all nerdy STEM workers that are loaded) does not seem like much of an improvement honestly. But then again, white men being fetishized for being white only seems good when you are inexperienced and desperate for sex/love. They are just using you for a dildo/status/money. If China beat the USA in a war, women would just worship Chinese men and see white men as weak. I mean, your experiences are not really cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 10:56 AM
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No, it is because they see white men as higher status. Being the picky sexual selectors as they are, Women have always been very bigoted. Actually, pretty much all culture are. We just like pretending we are not. Even when equal, we looked down upon races we believe are inferior to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 10:54 AM
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And you would think women would stop trying to use those lies as excuse because everyone knows that deep down lol. Alpha fux gets the hot, passionate and experimental sex because he is the abusive ex or whatever. Beta bux gets the prudish her. She then tries to avoid responsibility by blaming him/men with the good old “it is because men hate sluts” bs. I mean, one of the reasons that men dislike women with sexual pasts is because they do not fuck there husbands like they do there previous men. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 09:54 AM
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Exactly what it said. nothing more, nothing less.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 12:44 AM
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What are you talking about? Who said anything about women in general having so little to do with a man’s success? She specifically had very little to do with his success.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 10:41 PM
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Who said they become fathers because of those characteristics? It is other traits that make them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 10:35 PM
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Then why not give her to those men and be done with it? She obviously doesn’t love you. Or treat her as she wishes to be treated, only give what it takes to get sex from her. Nothing more, nothing. Since she is nothing more then a womb and you a dick, why treat her as anything more?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 07:49 PM
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Uhhh, have you seen bachelor pads?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 07:47 PM
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Which is why there are so many deadbeat fathers in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 07:46 PM
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No, I described what I described. Not what you wish I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:15 PM
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Yes, yes I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:14 PM
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Who is talking about real people here. I just told you what the opposite of shallow is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 02:23 PM
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Which is why women keep on ending up in relationships with those kind of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 02:22 PM
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What does that have to do with my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 02:22 PM
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Well, women just have to pick. A traditionally masculine man or a more feminine men who will do house work and such. Becoming more masculine does not mean that traditionally masculine men will do feminine tasks when women feel like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 02:21 PM
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How the hell are they not?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 02:20 PM
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Because women wanted to change gender roles for there selfish sake (selfish does not mean bad) while men never wanted it. Women want to work like men and then make men do housework to compensate for it. While men that are masculine and sexy because of it still want the old way. And so women go for masculine men who’s personality will not want them to do the housework and then they end up with him obviously not doing the housework. Confident, successful masculine men are never going to do the hou…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 12:57 PM
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Doesn’t matter. If women want men who did housework and shit, they would make it a priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 12:46 PM
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No, that is the opposite of someone too picky to pick anyone. The opposite of someone shallow would be someone who does not care about looks, status, money, etc at all. Someone who finds someone physically repulsive hot because of his/her personality exclusively.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 12:34 PM
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That isn’t a either or situation . Shallowness being normal does not make it less shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 12:14 PM
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Because it isn’t a choice to get who you want, it is a choice between having a relationship or none at all. It is the equivalent of being forced to pick between a shitty job and no job at all (but unemployment and shit allows you to barely survive without the job). You technically do not need the job as you will survive without, but you literally will have absolutely nothing. But with the job, you have slightly more then nothing. Both suck balls and are unsatisfying because he did not truly pick…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 10:41 AM
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More like there to get Bezos success for her own. Not a bad thing by itself, but to give her credit for his success does not put women in a more positive light. And Amazon is doing what men complain women do…and Amazon defends itself with the same tactics blue pillers do. Aka workers complain about how shitty the job is and all the other options they have. Employers respond by telling them that they are not entitled to good wages and treatment. I mean, they do not need good working conditions to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 01:51 AM
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If someone wants a relationship, they do not have a choice. Only if someone is okay without a relationship is it a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 10:31 PM
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Technically true, but there is more to it. Many choices are false choices in this world Aka the “it is this or nothing” choice. Which is pretty underhanded and not a real choice. L
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 10:01 PM
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Oh my, you keep on slaying then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:44 PM
2

And yoI think they find each other physically attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 06:21 PM
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No, I said giving men easier access to casual sex would fix most of the modern dating woes people. And the rest of your post is just misandry, so no point in engaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:52 PM
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I could ask you the same question.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:50 PM
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And my point is that you will not have sympathy no matter what
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:50 PM
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Nah, they are just more picky. They are just as shallow though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:43 PM
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That is still about privilege though. Being more fair is good, but it doesn’t change what it is. Intelligence, access, good role models, opportunities, looks, social status, inherited wealth/opportunities and just plain luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:06 PM
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Only when it is bb time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:04 PM
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People care a lot more then they say they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:03 PM
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What are you talking about? I am talking about a lack of a good male role model being bad. That is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:02 PM
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No, no you won’t. Just read what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:00 PM
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Who said anything about entitlement? Men being owed sex. I said I can say it better. But the issue is casual sex being too hard to get for most men. It burns too many people. I am suggesting the problem is that women have too much sexual power over men. This is what I believe is the origin of most if not all of dating issues people have. This imbalance fucks everything up. And women love casual sex, the issue is that most women are sexually repressed and that fucks everything up. And Entitlement…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 03:59 PM
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While income matters. Being financially successful is a matter of privilege, not ambition alone. Many lazy bums have amazing careers, many ambitious people work shitty jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:05 PM
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No, they said what they said. Nothing more, nothing less. You are inserting words into there arguments to make them be better then they really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:03 PM
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As a man who was incredibly ambitious when young, I call bs. They only care when they want a bb
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:02 PM
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Spoken like someone really young.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 01:01 PM
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One of my friends who are girls just became bi. She used to bitch about my bitching. But not anymore lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:46 PM
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They both feed into each other too. Many men in group 1 have low moral and have given up from lack of success. Which lowers the amount of good men out there. Which results in women fighting over less and less good men. Which allows men to treat them like shit. Which pushes the woman to raise her standards and complain about how shitty they were treated. Which pushes more aspiring good men to stop trying. Etc. I can say it better. But the issue is casual sex being too hard to get for most men. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:44 PM
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That is why women should focus more on more important personality traits. His looks, confidence and charm have absolutely no value past casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:38 PM
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Ahh yes, the charisma and charm of a sexy man. “I am a fuc ur ass tonight babe.” Ohhhh, he is just so confident and charismatic. But John here: “You have the most amazing laugh I have ever heard, I just could talk to you all day.” Is such an objectifying sex addict.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:36 PM
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Which is why they get with and have children with deadbeat men all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:31 PM
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Amazing how ambitious all these deadbeat men who get passed around are lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:30 PM
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This. This sounds like “he/she stated it” blame games. They are both at fault here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:26 PM
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Why not both? Blame the deadbeat dad for being a deadbeat and blame the mother for having a child with a deadbeat man over a good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:25 PM
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Saying we do not need x is not the same as saying they think they need x still, but via a different method.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:23 PM
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None of them said anything about having a alternative good male role model.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:12 AM
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That is what women want in relationship period. Throw a rich old man in a room and many western women will gladly try to get in a relationship with him for his money. It is also why relationships are in the dumps in the west. Relationships are naturally transactional. We removed women’s dependency on men, but men’s dependency on women remains. So it is just lopsided against men unless they are in the top 20% in some form.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 10:59 AM
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And we are giving you answers. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/sfioe8/comment/huqxbg1/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 Science shows this. Women end up with shitty men for they are attracted to traits associated with shitty men. In this context, doesn’t matter why.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 10:57 AM
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Bullshit. 4/10 men are not getting much sex at all. 30% of men are sexless. Women are the ones not fucking there equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 10:54 AM
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It is more that there standards are aimed at the wrong things. Superficial stuff doesn’t matter at all (includes things like charm and charisma) even in regards to sex. It will become less and less important as time goes on. With five years it will barely matter at all. I would not be shocked that the “7 year itch” is because of these misguided standards (that and pressuring people to marry people they do not want but feel they have to marry somebody).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 10:51 AM
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Nobody said that. The only replies I received was That there own father and a few they knew was abusive. That it is okay to not have a good male role model for they know of a lesbian couple or two that has a child. A kid that lacks a good male and female role model is half the person they could be. Most children have mothers, so we do not focus on that one. People are just selfish and stubborn, so they would rather be a single mother then get with good less attractive man. Even though many would…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 10:47 AM
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The thing is that people do not stop and think why that happens in the first places. A lack of good male role models is what leads to people ending up to having broken families to begin with. These mothers picked shitty men for they either has no frame of reference what a good man is, or had shitty fathers themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:52 AM
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Maybe your mother should have had a child with a good man instead. And maybe your father should have been a good man instead. The fact that I have all these people replying to me about how they are in broken homes proves me right more then anything honestly. Good male role models are more important then good genes for the child’s success. Perhaps we could argue it is two parent homes in general, but this is about single mothers, not lesbian relationships vs heterosexual ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:48 AM
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No, people do need a good male role model. Otherwise they will have unrealistic views of men in one form or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:46 AM
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Because your definition of a “good” guy is a top 10 percent guy in earnings obviously. Aka you see men as nothing more the men atms, so there only value is there wealth. I mean: …tends to date an influencer as soon as they “make it” Cmon man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 09:45 AM
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I literally said “good male role model.” And your post is another example why. The real question is why are women in your family constantly picking shitty men to have kids with. Why not just get one of the BILLIONS of good men out there instead? And no, I am not excusing the fathers here. They are shit and deserve to get fucked over 5 times the damage they caused. Here is the thing, women from broken households make broken families. Maybe the problem is that your mother did not have a good male …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:46 AM
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A bad idea. Two parent households and a good male role model are it replaceable to a child’s development. It is selfish and ultimately is failing the child. Ofc, they can obviously still do it. But she is hurting the child’s chances of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:36 AM
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There is no such thing as morality, just character and integrity. If a man find a 18 year old that loves him and he isn’t manipulating her, that is perfectly fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:33 AM
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Best to whom? We use to think the best woman was a submissive quite prude who did everything his husband told him. Sure, a lot of those can be spun positively (humble, motherly, kind, virtuous, etc). But they also suck in many other ways. Same for men here. Sure, you can frame it as good…but what about the bad? Sacrificing your natural personality to be someone you are not, having to spend your life working hard while never really enjoying the fruits of your labor, dressing to please others, hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 11:46 PM
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It is almost like we are failing at raising boys then getting pissed they are as we made them to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 09:58 PM
1

Why would men ever consume media aimed exclusively for women though? They would have to know to watch it for educational purposes to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 07:36 PM
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Objectifying the other gender is mutually beneficial? I will remember that the next time a women bitches about being used as a sex toy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:05 PM
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No, I definitely was atleast. It wasn’t just media saying that. You are going for the “Everyone could have been rich if they researched how to invest money properly argument, therefore pervert is a choice” argument. Which is incredibly flawed for one simple reason: We are not logical machines.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:04 PM
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And women do?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 06:02 PM
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Unless you mean what is expected of men who are not born with privilege, that is a reasonable amount of time of work to meet the average women’s standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 12:02 PM
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“Just be confident bro” “Just be yourself bro” Just take a shower bro” Etc. Ahh, I remember reading that empty shit and getting annoyed why it wasn’t working lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 11:57 AM
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Or you are just trying to womansplain to men about how dating works to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 11:56 AM
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It depends on how easy it is for you personally and your personality. I hate having to “hold frame” (confidence) and do the mating dance perfectly to get a girl I am attracted too. So the first few dates are shit. After you have sex with her and she stops the interview shit, it can be fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 11:06 AM
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Objectifying the other gender is mutually beneficial? I will remember that the next time a women bitches about being used as a sex toy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 11:01 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:59 AM
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Women using men as sex toys? Yeah, that is pretty damn scummy. Just like when men do the same to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:59 AM
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Morality, virtue, personal and character is unlinked from sexual success. It is all about shallow things for both genders. The difference is women’s shallow standards are much higher because men are willing to fuck down for easy sex….and they do that because women on there levels standards are too high. When it comes to relationships, non-shallow shit matters more, but only if you pass a minimum looks threshold. Otherwise you end up invisible and get gaslit to cover this up. All of modern dating…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:15 AM
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You are right, but it is also true that it is a scummy thing for women to do. They are objectifying and using men as objects by doing this. It is going to cause a lot of toxicity among Gen Alpha (or the gen after) in response to knowing this early in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:13 AM
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No, women just have access to better for causal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:12 AM
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It is a common red pill phrase. People may hate on how bitter red pilled men are. But the actual teachings are right on the money most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:11 AM
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It is the same for men, but less variety. Women want men to fit a few objectifying cookie cutter cutouts with some variance. But because we raise women to believe it is okay to objectify women, they go all out while men are raised to be more reasonable. If men had women’s standards, the vast majority of men would demand women need to have atleast C cup breasts to be worthy of being talked too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:10 AM
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Yes and no, men could have technically found out the truth sooner if they knew they were being lied too. But that is impossible for men to know until they figure out they are being lied too. It is a form of victim blaming to blame men for believing what they were taught. Men were being lied to because $$$$$ and babies. Men were sold the idea that if they just became useful enough, they could get the girl they wanted. This was to get men to work there asses off to be productive and valuable for s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 10:02 AM
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So yes, you do go for fat pussy. Just not full on obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:01 PM
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Perhaps the people with supposed victim complexes are actually just victims that refuse to accept being oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:01 PM
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I would say this is the best guess here. Data is worthless here because of sunken cost fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 09:02 PM
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Well, do you know what depression is? They literally struggle to get out of bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 08:06 PM
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You are right, the problem is they often do not want said help.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:08 PM
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No, I have no such post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:05 PM
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Yeah, I am sure personally attacking me will change my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:04 PM
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If I walk down a dark alley filled with gangsters, it is there fault if they mug and kill me. But it is my responsibility to avoid walking down the dark alley in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:03 PM
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Yes and no. The feelings exist, but it is nothing more then chemical releases in the brain telling you to stay together for the sake of babies. The feelings are real, the cause is disappointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:23 PM
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True, but I still think it is much rarer then people like to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:21 PM
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But you are largely agreeing with me. Your argument is largely “you are right, but men do it too” which I agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:19 PM
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He wasn’t even disagreeing with me really. He was agreeing with me more then disagreeing with me. He was just adding caveats at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:15 PM
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This equates to women being children in your mind? Yes, treating women like they are children via pretending they are not responsible for there actions does equate women to children in terms of agency. You are being a reductionist. Responsibility=/=fault I have literally said and imply that responsibility and fault are not necessarily linked. Admittingt to the fact that external pressures pushed you into a choice and choosing not to fetishize the individual does not equate to taking away someone…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:14 PM
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Who are you arguing with?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:08 PM
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Because we still see women as inferior and lacking the ability to have agency. So we refuse to hold women accountable for there poor mating decisions. Why? Votes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:05 PM
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If you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:01 PM
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The fact that you brought children in this conversation proves my main point. Women are NOT children. And therefore are adults who are responsible for there own actions. If women want to be seen as lesser then men, then they can give up there rights. But I know women can take responsibility and will hold them to it. As for the rest, are you actually disagreeing with me? I cannot tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:01 PM
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Nothing in my statement implied that. Try again. You literally said. There are a lot of reasons women would choose to stay with a man who is abusive. They are all external. Adults are responsible for there own actions, they do not put ALL the responsibility on external factors. Even if everything is everyone else’s fault, all the responsibility still lies on the adult. Please provide an explanation of what you think my mentality is and how protecting women causes them to end up in abusive relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 11:58 AM
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Ahhh a off-topic strawman based on single sentence in my post taken out of context. Surely you will change my mind that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:58 AM
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True, but that was because of benevolent sexism. We believed women were weak and dependent creatures who needed men to make decisions for them. That is why that mentality exists and still exists. But women are equal now. It is time we call our abusive sexism for what it really is. Telling women it is not there fault does not help them, it hurts them if anything. Now that women have agency, men cannot protect them from poor decisions anymore. So we should act accordingly and treat them as we trea…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:57 AM
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No, women are not children. They are equal to men. You mentality is why abuse is so rampant these days. We keep “protecting” women from themselves which makes them even up getting in abusive relationship after abusive relationship. Let me put it this way, there are less mass serial killers then ever before. Why? Because we are smarter about protecting ourselves then ever before. So they do not have the chances to hurt others like they use to. If you walk down a dark alley filled with gangsters, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:52 AM
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You are 100% agreeing with me then. I literally said (perhaps you posted before my edit, but it was still partially there). Aka they need mental help and a therapist to figure out why they keep ending up with toxic partners and so they can get out of toxic loops. Do you know what responsibility is? It is not about fault or blame, it is about taking control of your life and becoming an adult. Blaming men for a women making shitty mating choices because of mental health issues will not help them, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:29 AM
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Humanity is a locust upon the earth. We are literally destroying the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 05:07 PM
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No, definitely not true. Trp gets you sex and relationships. Black bill goes to far imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:04 PM
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I personally agree. It isn’t our responsibility anyways. Sucks, but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:02 PM
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Exactly, it is pointless for anyone to ever bother talking to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:01 PM
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The thing with life is that it is ultimately all about oppressing each other to get as much as possible from each other and get away with it. Morality is figuring out what oppression those in power can get away with and what types of oppression that can be levied against them needs to be prevented to protect themselves. We then rationalize why it is okay to oppress x and nit oppress y. Why is murder bad to us? Because we do not want someone to kill us. But if someone is trying to kill us, all of…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:38 AM
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No, therapists are just paid to listen and say “just accept bro.” They are expensive and only worth it for mental issues like depression for no reason, bipolar disorder. Schizophrenia and the like. Going to a therapist because you are unsuccessful at the mating game is a waste of time as there is nothing that they can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:17 AM
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You literally shut down any chance of a open conversation by noting that “No one cares” Why in the world would anybody care what you say if you do not care? At that point, you will literally just say whatever you can to shut down the conversation and not listen to anything anyone says.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:14 AM
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And that is why western cultures are going to decline until death. The mating game is going to get worse and worse until the culture just falls apart. There are going to be less and less healthy relationships, more and more crime, more and more radicalism, less and less productivity, less and less more, more and more political corruption, etc. With that said, you are not wrong. The only good option for people to take is the selfish one now. Trying to do the right thing will just get you fucked o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:10 AM
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Because we all see it all the time and the data backs it up. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/sfioe8/comment/huqxbg1/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 You can try womansplaining to me how women do not love these men, yet men know the truth for we live it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 09:51 AM
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It is simple. Fool him once, shame on you. Fool him twice, shame on him. Fool him a third time, shame on you. First time can very well be the result of inexperience. Men who are intimacy starved and lied to there whole lives can easily fall for a shitty woman in there 20s or earth 30s. Second time he should have known better. Third time, it is obvious he is just naive or something. At that point it is because he just lacks the ability to understand or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:15 PM
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Women want the best provider and protector. Virtue and good gets in the way of that. They want the dangerous piece of shit who will do anything to get what they want, and they want him to want to please them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 07:37 PM
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It is more that we just need to know our actual value and her rewards equal to that value. Right now, we are treating it like a war. Pushing others down so we can get a good deal ourselves, exploiting the other side, etc. Not just in dating, all over. And many are fucked over and not where they should be. They look back and see that they could have had more if they had known they were being exploited. This leads to bitterness, resentment, decay, unrest, decline, the works. But if someone were to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 06:42 PM
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That was already known. The issue is that we keep acting like women do not have a dual mating strategy that objectifies men just as bad
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 05:42 PM
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Life is oppression really. We are all just oppressing each other to have more material and immaterial things. We just like to rationalize one type of oppression is okay, while another isn’t. And we only do that for selfish reasons to oppress others and prevent them from oppressing us
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 05:38 PM
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Parent to child love is not unconditional though. The condition is the child being the parents child. Just a impossible condition to fail unless one parent discovers the child is not there child or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 05:35 PM
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This. Truthfully, all of our actions probably have been decided before the Big Bang happened. It is all just big ass cause and effect chain. We just like to pretend we have free will and shit because the truth makes life pointless, empty and depressing. But even if true, doesn’t mean we should just stop trying to do anything. We can just enjoy our movie, for that is what life really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 05:34 PM
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Because we expect men to be the primary providers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 12:47 PM
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Sorry to say this, but Life is boring with some fleeting moment s of happiness. It only seems otherwise as we keep pushing the boring shit on other people so we do not have to do it and we are use to our dopamine receptors being fried from modern entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 12:46 PM
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Pretty easy to see. The only ones blind are the people who are still in the privileged upper middle class group and above (the ones who can do something about it ofc). They just keep on relying on “you are not entitled to anything and life is unfair lol” until the same shit hits them. Then all of a sudden it is “that isn’t fair and we should work to make sure people are entitled to x.”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 12:44 PM
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That is basically everything wrong with modern society. Nobody cares about anything until it impacts them. And the only ones with the power to change things are purposefully the last ones to suffer any negative impact on anything (mostly because they set up systems in place to protect them at everyone else’s expense). At which point, it will be too late to fix anything and we will just end up suffering for generations recovering from e damage done. They will blame some group that does not have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 12:42 PM
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They probably will try to reinstate the 1960 version of the patriarchy because of how amazing the good old days were. Obviously that will not give them the results they want, but history tends to go through cycles like that. Gen alpha will do that or the one after that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 12:39 PM
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That is a unhealthy job market problem. It is the result of employers trying to exploit workers by underpaying them and having unrealistic standards. Employees respond by getting into jobs they do not want, exploit the complaint as much as they can, do as little as possible and leaving as soon as a option they do want presents itself. Employers are shooting themselves in the foot by exploiting the system to save as much money as possible. It even turns good, high value workers into bums. Especia…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:27 AM
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I said it already, but women’s standards and shit ruin it for everyone. To pass her tests, standards and shit to get her, you have to not care about her at all. And so women end up with men who use her as someone who doesn’t care about her, doesn’t care about her. Even more blue pilled leaning people here are admitting this. It is toxic and abusive, we would never accept an employer doing the shit women pull. But apparently, hardcore, abusive and vile capitalistic practices that everyone hates i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 10:11 AM
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Women love those kinds of men sadly. She wanted the bullet to hit her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 08:07 PM
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No, he is a beta to her lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 08:07 PM
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Titanic is the embodiment of women’s romantic fantasy. When she was dying, who was she thinking of? Her husband who spent a large chunk if not majority of his life loving her and her children? No. No, she remembers that one loser bum who was kind to her to sleep with her because she was hot and died for her because everyone was dying. Could have made life so much better for her husband and children too if she just sold that stupid necklace.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 08:06 PM
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Because talking about toxic women and shitty divorce laws is misogyny lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 07:31 PM
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If people on the childfree subreddit do not want kids, why do they talk about kids all the time? Almost like all they do is hate kids. Like there whole life is hating kids. Or because that is the topic of the forum. Same with mgtow, Mgtow will have posters talking about why they or men should go mgtow. Aka they will talk about female toxicity, shitty divorce laws and such. If they want to talk about video games or another hobby, they would go to a video game forum and such. And they do. You are …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 07:30 PM
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Way to be intellectually dishonest. The average date would probably be closer to 50-100 and let’s be honest, it is going to take multiple dates to get one sexual encounter. And not only that but it takes time to actually get said date. I could go on, but there is no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 06:02 PM
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Yes. We even had other threads on this before (search pre-selection). If you get with someone ugly for there personality, everyone will look down upon you even though she is far better in non-shallow ways and that is why you picked her. They will see you as the equivalent of McDonalds worker. While a woman with an ugly, low earning and low status man who is awesome in non-shallow ways will be seen as virtuous and good because of who she “employed.” If the “employee” sucks, people will tell her t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:46 PM
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Protecting myself from toxic men doesn't mean being a misandrist. TRP is misogynistic by assuming all women are by nature "the oldest teenager in the room", transactionally hypergamous, etc. TRP twists everything into a battle of the sexes. But they are. Not because they are lesser, but because women want someone better then themselves…to at the very least has the confidence of one. Feeling superior by seeing you as a sister is a shortcut to being a strong confident leader that takes responsibil…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 05:50 PM
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One of the main ideas expressed in this sub, even if it isn't expressly mentioned by name every time, is AWALT. Awalt is the same as “all guns are loaded,” or you protecting yourself from toxic men. If men had the right to rape you, what would you do? You would take steps necessary to protect yourself. You would purposefully avoid any chance of getting involved with a man who has even the slightest red flag. You would treat all men as a gun loaded. That is the same with Awalt. You could argue di…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 04:07 PM
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I already mentioned it wasn’t all indirectly lol. They especially refuse to give there youth to good men, the ones who do are the ones who end up married and happy. Emphasis …the ones who do are the ones who end up married and happy. Also funny how your defense is A study can be found to support anything these days. When you post threads using singular, pretty sketchy studies as proof all the time. Are you saying that every one of those threads you made prior, was made in bad faith as you believ…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:52 PM
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Yet you cannot engage in good faith. First you ignore Then you mock Then you fight Then you accept the truth Finally, you will pretend you agreed with me all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:39 PM
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No,nobody said all or every women. I even presented over 20 different studies that Lilith has known about for over a year…yet was unable to ever engage it or put forth a single counter. Women make shitty mating choices all the time. Studies back it up. Not one, not two, but dozens upon dozens….if not hundreds. Women are not objects, they are equal to men, they have agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:37 PM
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Says the person with no data, no proof. Just empty opinions that run counter to reality. Just empty hatred covered up with silly word games. It is pointless to engage you as you are already ignoring what I am saying, so I will stand down and let you bask in your hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 01:35 PM
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Uhhh, you do realize we all can make a profile on tinder of a fat, ugly girl and see the result ourselves right? I have and seen what options women have. Women get attention, love and sex from men far better then them. They just are not good enough as they are not a top tier man or she wants a man who is the type who will never commit to her. Women’s problem is they want a man who is way better then them that display signs of never going to commit (apathetic chill attitude, the confidence of som…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:57 AM
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No, that is because women love misogynists, abusers, bullies, etc. I mean, we have been through this before https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/sfioe8/comment/huqxbg1/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 Men who respect and treat women well are treated like shit by women and then gaslit about it as if there kindness isn’t fake…then they get with another obvious abuser. Ultimately, men become what women want. If men are pumping and dumping women, it is because women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 10:35 AM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:21 AM
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True, but my point is that most men were victims too. Yes, a few men benefited, but many didn’t. Most men did not even have the right to vote for the longest time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:22 PM
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Then they will not have the good relationship they want. They can go get used for sex and bitch of fds.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:18 PM
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No, many women were rich and well off too lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 08:17 PM
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Okay, then answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:59 PM
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You are right. Points relationships as a very worthless goal to strive for. As soon as men can get there sexual needs met elsewhere (companion bots or whatever), relationships will probably completely die.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:18 PM
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So you cannot answer the question then
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 06:15 PM
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The patriarchy is gynocentric. It is a few men at the top, and the rest are useful idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:02 PM
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And patriarchy is gynocentric. Only the few men at the top enjoy the privileges of patriarchy. The rest are useful idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 05:01 PM
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This. Both genders do it. I do it, you do it, everyone here does it. We just like to pretend we are not shallow by over glorifying hot peoples personalities and looking for excuses to hate ugly peoples personalities The truth is that attractive people have better personalities on average, but because they are privileged and thus treated better and more developed. But a sexy insane or abusive person enters the room, everyone will love there personality and claim they are “manipulative” or whateve…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 04:04 PM
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That isn’t anti gynocentric. A gynocentric society treats women like trophies to win then use for babies. So you will get treated like a protected class, but be used as a fertility object.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 04:01 PM
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Why do people keep pretending people are not shallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:59 PM
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I think we both can acknowledge the stress and suffering from living in poverty isn’t comparable to being single. It is not a comparison. They are insufferable because they entitled and narcissistic. Yeah no. Stop playing armchair psychologist. Stop victim blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 03:33 PM
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And you think annoying people have problems getting later? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:31 AM
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You are right, but that doesn’t change his point. Tons of toxic men who are misogynistic pieces of shit, annoying arrogant man children, criminals who rape women, etc pull women with ease. Incels are bitter and socially inept because of there lack of results. The why is because they were either not born attractive enough or did not develop socially like people normally do for some reason (lack of good male role models and such).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:31 AM
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What? Criminals have children all the time…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:26 AM
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No, some can have high testosterone. Women just do not like feminine, Agreeable, non-compatible and peaceful men sexually. So a sexually successful man is more likely to be a mentally ill, asocial dark triad monster ironically enough. The data even shows this: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/sfioe8/comment/huqxbg1/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 Incels are the men who would be yesterdays gentleman and providers. Which is why they bitch like they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:25 AM
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That is it? There are drug lords who have had harems of women and dozens of children that have killed hundreds of people each? 8 mass shooters and 60 victims in a decade…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:22 AM
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I always find it funny that people keep trying to attribute some morality deficiency or character flaws to sexually unsuccessful men. When all the evidence we have say that toxic asocial dark triad misogynistic bullies are the most sexually successful https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/sfioe8/comment/huqxbg1/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3 Sexually unsuccessful men are statistically the least likely to shoot people and rape women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:21 AM
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During your grandpas time, you could go to dances designed as single gathering places, down a good 8/10 woman (people were far hotter back then due to lack of obesity) and get married within a month. He would then go out and just get a job and house by just wanting to have them at 18 years old. He lived in a completely different world then we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:17 AM
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You think that struggling to not get a romantic partner does not lead to stress and suffering? Lol And you can only live a rich fulfilling life without a romantic partner if the man does not want a romantic partner to begin with. And they are only insufferable because they cannot get a romantic partner for so long. If you threw a good woman at them who loves them despite there flaws, they would stop being insufferable within a few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:14 AM
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I find the people who are first to pull out any insults are the lowest value in the room. They rely on there systematic privileges (or the ability to talk about people out of earshot range) to try and deal with there insecurity by pushing other down.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:10 AM
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Bullshit. They are very bitter about there lack of success with women and/or how they suffered from female toxicity, and that made them so resentful and hateful in the first place. If they had sexual success earlier and women treated them better, they would be “normal” and have none of the toxicity. You are just trying to pull the good old victim blaming strategy here. They are the equivalent of women who suffered at the hands of male toxicity and/or lack success of men. They become bitter, rese…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:08 AM
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Yeah, most things are not gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/22 09:02 AM
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You are being intellectually dishonest. Broken Heart syndrome is named as such because of what causes the stress. Loved one dying, feeling hopeless that no one will ever love them, etc. Sex is included in that. Ofc you do not care, you just want to hate men irrationally. And people die of exposure so yes some type of shelter is needed. Homeless get by just fine. I mean, according to your logic they do not die from lack of shelter directly so it isn’t caused by lack of shelter anyway. Sex is not …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:02 PM
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People can live without shelter, therefore shelter is not needed. People can live without there legs, so there is no problem if someone gets a couple chopped off. You logic is intellectually dishonest. And people do die from celibacy, it is categorized under “broken heart syndrome.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 09:54 PM
5

Men are not women. Our sex drives are completely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 09:23 PM
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Because sex and intimacy via relationships is a psychological need. It will hurt a individuals mental health if they cannot get it. Ofc the rich always tell the poor “money doesn’t matter.”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 07:42 PM
6

Seriously though, the fudge is with blue pillers these days. I have been thinking “what?” With these arguments these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:47 AM
5

It is more that the recession will just get worse lol. We have never really recovered from the 2009 recession. Our solution was to spread out the damage from it by bailing out companies and shit that didn’t deserve it. This just stagnated everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:11 AM
1

Women see men as objects. So they are always using you for something. The best case scenario is you be usable enough that she sticks around enough and decides to stay for less shallow reasons. But that is rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:09 AM
1

Aka, they want that beta bux.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:08 AM
1

The issue is women want the benefit of being coveted trophies still. They do not want equality, they want to keep there privileges. But just like feminists argue patriarchy hurts men, this selfishness hurts women. Men cannot give women what they want for they have lost the privileges that let them be what women want. Men are going to make less and less, they are going to be less and less masculine, they are going to be more and more emotional, they are going to be less sacrificial and put themse…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 10:06 AM
3

It was also to give men exclusive access to women’s fertility and take ownership of her (along with full responsibility of her). Funny how that part is always skipped. Using men as objects. to take care of the family is okay. Using women as fertility objects is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 07:32 PM
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Waaaay harder. Men are so fucking desperate these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 05:34 PM
3

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 05:15 PM
5

Yes, until proven otherwise. Trust is earned, not given.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:02 AM
2

No, you do not know that. You can only count the final score when it is over. More couples will get divorced with time and the percentage of millennials and Gen x who get divorced will only increase percentage wise. All you can tell now is how successful boomer marriages are as there lives are all almost over.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:01 AM
5

Exactly. Only people that get married. Your desperation to avoid the obvious logical truth is telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:00 AM
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No, it makes complete sense. If a study came out that said married people are more attractive, does that mean people become sexier because they are married. Or does it mean that sexier people are just more desirable for marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:32 AM
3

No, we do not know yet. It is including data from boomers and Gen x. And most millennial/Gen z divorces have not happened yet as we are still young.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:30 AM
4

Yes and they do lol. Or should women not protect themselves from rapey men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:29 AM
10

Men who get married are healthier and live longer for women want men who are more privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:21 AM
3

Yes, the amount of overall divorces is going to be lower because marriage is happening much less frequently and the actual percentage rate will not be known until we are all old (for millennials and Gen z).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:19 AM
5

Because he isn’t the only one who experiences this lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:17 AM
5

A thing to note is that many men who think it is worth only falsely believe so as they never truly opened there mind to the alternative. Most of the cons of marriage only appear years down the road. It is how they get you. They front load the benefits for men, raise men to see women as the meaning of life, teach that lust is actually this spiritual “true wuv” bs, make men depend on women for intimacy and sexually repress men. And the cons only appear when you are already deeply invested and cann…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:17 AM
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Virgin women are literally the only ones worth marrying. Actually the entire point of marriage is sexual exclusivity for permanent commitment. Sleeping around prior to marriage is actually cheating and ruins the entire point of marriage. We just see it as okay for it “technically isn’t cheating” based on the definition of cheating…but it is in spirit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:14 AM
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What? That makes zero logical sense. Being born isn’t a choice. And for most people it probably isn’t worth it. They just make the best of there shitty life for it is all they have. We are also designed to not want to die no matter how shit our lives are. It takes a lot for us to overpower our self-defense mechanisms. I mean, the fact you are even typing her puts you in the top 1% of human lives of all time. Most people’s lives were utter hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:09 AM
0

Because marriage itself is a dying institution.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 10:05 AM
3

Yes, women do like to date more dangerous men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:44 PM
6

Well yeah, men are stupid idealists. And they have limited sexual options so they need to rely on relationships to get them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 07:11 PM
0

It is, but random strangers will not bother with you unless you are out in the dead of night.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 05:40 PM
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Random rapes are incredibly rare. The vast majority of rapes are caused by people that are associated with the girl already (boyfriends, husbands, close friends, fathers, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 05:18 PM
1

Which is why you do not bother with them. If she will not be your lover, she isn’t worthy of you being the father to her kids and her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:40 PM
1

Because it is being done for the wrong reasons. It isn’t because they love the other person, it is because that person is the only option they have. It is the type of relationship that divorces as the man matures and figures out who he really is and what he really wants. Could they be in love? Sure. But he doesn’t know as he no frame of reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:39 PM
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No, meekness is not a bad thing at all. In matter of fact, it is a virtue. Meekness is similar to humility, yet still slightly different. In its truest and most foundational sense, meekness is restrained strength—as in, someone who possesses the capability to overpower a situation or a person or a roomful of people, yet instead chooses to lay down that power for the sake of others. A meek person is so strong that they can even overcome their own urges and resist the enticing temptations to exert…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:33 PM
2

Well the six pack for one. It is incredibly unhealthy to have that low of a body fat percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 02:29 PM
1

How? He was a Alpha. Women do stupid things for alphas. (Just like men do stupid things for sexy women).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:51 PM
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Many of these are harmful to men too you know. I only listed a few. Becoming someone you are not is bad in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 01:50 PM
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I said meek and quiet, not unsure of yourself and unconfident. Confidence (what we call confidence anyway) is not really that good of a trait to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:56 PM
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Women here keep on having this hypocritical view on “self-improvement.” Both genders want different things, but they have a gender equivalent. To tell men to “take a shower” and groom themselves is the equivalent of telling a woman to shave, take care of there skin, grow out there hair, etc. To tell men to be confident is the equivalent of telling women that they need to learn to be meek and quiet. To tell men to earn more money to be a good provider is the equivalent of telling women that they …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 10:13 AM
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People here look at a man who gives up due to lack of success and tells him the issue is he gave up lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:03 AM
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Not shaving armpit hair is the equivalent of having a neck beard you know
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 09:01 AM
6

Sexist as in they openly call out toxic masculinity. Fuck, even having conservative views non-related to relationships or sex at all gets you called a incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:45 PM
3

Then you will never stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:08 PM
5

Even 500,000 is unrealistic number here. Even 100,000. Stop playing stupid victim blame games.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 09:12 PM
5

No, there is a lot less people then you think. A lot realistic options.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:06 PM
5

That is super intellectually dishonest. Realistically, I doubt we will ever even see a million of these billions of people. And of those, most are not even going to be in your age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 07:06 PM
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Not to mention telling people “you are not entitled to sex and life is unfair so too bad” tends to backfire as they will just turn around and behave using the same logic against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:07 PM
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Well, what are sexually and romantically unsuccessful men told? They are not entitled to anything and that life is unfair. So what would people who are told that they are not entitled to anything and that unfairness is okay think? That it is okay to do what it takes to get what you want for they are not entitled to anything and unfairness is okay. I mean, they are just following the same believes that others followed. They just focus on what benefits them instead. According to the same logic use…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 02:03 PM
5

It is the arrogance of sexist misandrists who see men as objects that exist to serve them. So it isn’t that men do not find career women unattractive because they make terrible companions and mothers, it is because they are intimidated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:05 AM
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Dude, the fuck are you talking about? How far are women willing to go to justify white-worship?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 09:55 AM
3

Do you even know what a movement is? Mgtow are mostly divorced men who are refusing to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:25 AM
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