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it was a joke, dw. But as a brown guy in europe, no sunscreen for me. My skin needs all the sun it can get here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:01 AM
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What kind of skincare products are you folks using lately? Water 🗿
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:58 PM
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Of course not. She would want a chad who could rock shirtless looks and all the other looks as well. Everyone would want chad. But I can't be that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 07:42 PM
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lol. Thanks I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 07:40 PM
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Men have more kinks because they're on average more horny Could be true. I'll have to read more about it I guess. I'll look into it someday.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 07:34 PM
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Exactly. These people talking about "niches" don't realise that niche literally cuts down your options. If there was an ugly woman and a hot woman into the same kink as you, you'd obviously go for the hotter option. But since your kink is so "niche" that almost no one shares it, you'd be forced to consider whoever is left.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:52 PM
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Thank you! The level of denial these people are in is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:50 PM
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because they don't know which "niche" would have a larger number of women. So if they did diversify and end up in the wrong niche, the time and effort would be wasted and they would be worse off than when they started. Becoming what is most widely percieved as attractive is the best way to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:48 PM
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I read about the Greater Male Variability phenomenon long ago, so I don't remember the exact source, but it said that GMV is the reason why men on average have a greater variety of kinks and sexual interests as well. Think about how many men have a foot fetish vs how many women have it. So if the diversity in kinks and fetishes in men is indeed due to the male variability, then it is safe to assume that the variety of preferences for their partners also exists due to the same. That's why sone me…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:45 PM
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Yes. Mental traits like having various preferences and types of women they find attractive. Such variability in preferences is not present in women because they are not men. That's what I mean when I say male variability. Which is why women's preferences are more uniform and follow social script more closely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:36 AM
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It is healthy and liberating IF you find partners to experiement it with. As a guy into bdsm, born in a conservative country, it only adds to the frustration, guilt and complexes related to sexuality. One of the biggest reasons I consider having moved to europe to be the best decision I ever made was this. I still haven't found as many women to engage in my kinks as I would like. But that's just the downside if being a straight male.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:33 AM
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There is no such thing as a "male variability", there is only "human variability" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variability_hypothesis Are you sure about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:28 AM
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Most men don't care about the outfits of other men. Most women are too busy worrying about their own outfits to pay attention to a random guy's clothes. I wear whatever is comfortable.... which is mostly Tshirts and Jeans, or shorts in the summers. Unless a situation demands otherwise like formal occasions, parties etc. Sometimes I buy stuff simply because it looks cool, without thinking whether it would look cool on me because I am blind in that regard. My ideal woman dresses scantily, so that …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 08:49 AM
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idk about that buddy. To each their own. The more I think about it, the more I feel like I might be Aro but not Ace.... as in, I like chicks, just not enough to keep one around for long. And whether youbare straight or Aro or Ace or both, everyone would be at peace if they just accepted their sexuality as an integral part of themselves instead of fighting it. And about lust, lust is basically a sin That's a very christian thought, and honestly not a very healthy one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 08:40 AM
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I thought that's just something Boo invented for color coding profiles lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 08:32 AM
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Some are into bears. Some are into twinks. Some are into femboys, etc. Variability in male preferences. It applies here as well. Same with lesbians. Some go for the very fem girls, other for butches, etc. I would guess this is because there is no pre-approved social model for woman-woman pairs, so they don't get a script programmed into them from the beginning, which is why their preferences are forced to become more individualistic. Why would straight women be any different? Because straight wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 08:29 AM
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Yes it is a modern retelling. Mostly from a guy who used to do discourses on scriptures in the 60's and 70's.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 08:21 AM
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Fun story... When Buddha went back to his palace after becoming The Buddha, his wife asked if it was necessary for him to abandon his wife and kid to find the truth, and he could not answer her. Because he knew that isolation was not necessary to reach the truth, but if he answered "No" then he would've been in trouble, and if he answered "Yes" then he would be lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 08:03 PM
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Let's enjoy each other I'm all ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 08:00 PM
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Points to Buddha as an example.... then immediately advocates for "building an empire" and all the other announcements of ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:58 PM
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mid eastern or indian?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:44 PM
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OC said: I made the post out of genuine curiousity, but I noticed how many posters vehemently denied that looking average or below as a man lowers your chances of finding women, which brought me back to PPD. To which the other chick said: Sure all of society is trying to gaslight you. It can’t possibly be that you’re wrong. Implying that "looking average or below as a man lowers your chances of finding women" is wrong. That means she believes that looks play NO ROLE in attraction at all. Do you …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:43 PM
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0.051% of the population is more people than you will ever be able to date 0.051% of the women in your dating range who are available.... which is absolutely nothing if you start counting. no one is "fighting" for market shares, you just go on dates and have a good time no one is "fighting" in the job markets, you just apply for interviews and have a good time. Do you know how ignorant that sounds? of course I didn't use "fight" in a literal sense. Thank you mr obvious. trying to appeal to the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:58 AM
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teehee 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 09:08 PM
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I'd rather the local brand Sure you would. You're the customer, you can do anything you want. It's useless to "fight for the 51%" because you're not even going to meet half of that 51%. I am not going to teach people the concept of probabilities and statistics over reddit. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 09:08 PM
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Objectification could be of many kinds. Reducing someone to one role/utility/purpose is objectification. It could be sexual, or financial, or physical, or treating them as a statistic, or reducing their value to just being a father/mother/son etc. All of these are objectification. Sexualization, while could become objectification if isolated from the personhood of the object of desire, is not harmful in itself. In fact it is necessary for attraction to exist, I think. There should always be some…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 09:06 PM
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said by someone who never had to lift something heavier than a shopping bag.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 09:00 PM
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never realizing that nothing has mass market appeal. Sydney Sweeney has mass market appeal. Megan Fox had mass market appeal. Hamburgers and beers have mass market appeal. Yes you cannot realistically capture 100% of the market. But you can be Pepsi or Coke fighting for that 51% instead of some local brand fighting for 0.051%. They constantly waste their own time by doing everything for women. They do nothing for themselves. And that just reinforces their desperation This I agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:57 PM
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The denial about the number of partners they can realistically get vs the number of partners they could get if they looked good... or the number of partners their female partners get by the virtue of being a woman. They self report "success", implying that anyone can have as much sex as they want just by being an awesome person with confidence, they downplay the importance of looks. That's what OC is pointing out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:50 PM
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mid guys in poly relationships are definitely not, that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:23 PM
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So when women on ppd admit that men's looks matter.... they are lying at that point?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:22 PM
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poly men can be in denial, which is really important if you're not getting any despite being in a "poly/open" relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:21 PM
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"cute" is endearing. "hot/sexy" is aesthetically pleasing/sexually desirable, maybe even intimidating to a degree. Both are good.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:18 PM
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muzzle and chains you say 👀
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:39 AM
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someone who's into me first
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:38 AM
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Developing a genuine sense of sensuality and eroticism does not require the validation of others. Go read some sex books. Easy for a woman to say. "Sensuality" as a concept only exists within feminine context. There is no "male sensuality", it's just called a sex drive. As in, desire for sex. It sounds like you consider sexual imagination an "autosexual" Oh I've got plenty of imagination, that still doesn't make me "sexy" or objectifiably desirable to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 08:35 AM
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need to develop a genuine sense of eros Which is almost impossible for most of them because the society doesn't eroticise male body as it does the female body. Being objectified requires you to be an actual object of desire. You cannot be the object of your own desire... unless you're an autosexual. In order to objectify yourself, even willingly, someone else has to make you the object of their desire first. There's specific porn troupes for different kinds of women. School girls, milfs, e-girls…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 11:27 PM
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When a flower blooms on the sidewalk, it radiates fragrance. It doesn't matter if the person walking by is good or evil, if he loves flowers or hates them, if he deserves to smell the flowers or not. The flower still radiates fragrance, makes its surrounding better just a little bit because that's all it can do, that's its nature. No comditions, no ifs and buts, no expectation of reciprocation. Whether you water it or trample it under your shoe, it keeps on doing what it does until it dies. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 09:46 AM
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good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 09:43 PM
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But you're not growing those plants, are you now? You're just cutting/buying them. You're not even buying them, you're demanding someone else buy them to appease you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:44 PM
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same as hanging tiger hide in your hall because you can't be in a zoo/national park 24/7. Looks cool, but just don't pretend that it's about "appreciating the beauty".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 01:31 PM
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There is a way, it's called going to a garden.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 12:39 PM
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beauty of flowers can be observed in their native place, when they are alive and attached to the plant. Wanting someone to pick, collect, buy flowers and offer them to you is egotistical. Do you demand someone bring you the sun when you want to watch sunsets?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 09:15 PM
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Again, it's not that all flowers must be saved at all cost. It's that people who expect/demand flowers do so for egoisitical reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 09:08 PM
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It's not about the "innocent" or "guilty" flowers if you think about it. The problem is with who demands them and why.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 08:51 PM
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Eh, if you're gonna eat the flowers then its okay I guess. But almost always the flowers die for ego, not for something meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 05:37 PM
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Evil women. Slan from Berzerk, Wanda when she went crazy, Varang from Avatar, Lilith/Eve/Abaddon from Supernatural and so on. It's just such a rare and refreshing thing to find in pop culture when everyone else either doesn't make evil female characters or tries to justify their evilness with a sad backstory.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 05:36 PM
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exactly. No one has to be taught to like the taste of chocolate. But black coffee is an "acquired taste". Says a lot about which one actually tastes better.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 05:30 PM
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Only a narcissist would demand the sacrifice of severed plant genitalia on a first meeting. Let the flowers be where they belong... on a plant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 05:26 PM
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It's like how everyone likes looking at tigers but when they want a pet, they go for dogs simply because dogs are more convenient and useful and wouldn't eat you if they were hungry. Women are visually attracted to the female body usually, but most of the men who emd up in relationships do so because their "partners" found it more convenient than to be single/lesbian. Not because they like looking at the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 08:00 AM
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Red pill logic doesn't apply there. We are a society that still needs to tackle our class divide and the very real economic disparity. One of the few places where 2nd wave feminism is still a need, let alone 3rd or 4th wave ones. That's why whenever I saw the fellow Indian kids parrot the RP talking points from Andrew tatte youtube videos I could do nothing but be amazed at how dumb and impressionable kids can be. It might still take like 2-3 generations for India as a whole (men, women and chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 07:43 AM
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100% agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 07:37 AM
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I don't understand. There are no personal insults in my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 07:34 AM
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I guess that explains the bad faith arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 02:23 PM
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and yet you're here arguing with strangers on ppd. The math ain't mathing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 10:46 AM
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If the racial preference is towards ones own race, then it could be rooted in familiarity and comfort regarding culture/parental upbringing. If it's towards another race then it is more often than not rooted in insecurities. I also what to believe that I "just like what I like" but there is a "why" behind every liking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 10:43 AM
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Good to know. I'll read about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 10:40 AM
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They could still have insecurities despite being athletes, who knows?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 10:39 AM
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Halo effect but in the opposite direction. We should have a name for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:23 AM
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Preferences developed during school/teenage have less to do with insecurities, true. I agreed with that somewhere else in this thread as well. If you have a preference that has kinda always been there, then it might be genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:20 AM
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Every action would be that simple if we never analyse anything. So yes, you're correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 07:53 PM
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Strawmanning huh. Are you a woman by any chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 07:47 PM
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accepting imperfections and prefering imperfections are two different things. You'd understand that if you self reflected and thought for a moment before typing the comment for the sake of arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 08:27 AM
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My ass. You could choose to be the perpetual victims if that's what gets you going. People don't only engage in things that are easy. Women do. They're smarter that way. I've not yet been enlightened by any new truths in this conversation You can choose to sleep through the day. Sun shines upon you nonetheless. Same with not expecting anything from men. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:56 AM
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Yep. What they choose to respond with is what hits the nerve. That's where have skin in the game lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:52 AM
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I have wondered if my preference for black/brown women is rooted in seeing them as more attainable. That's exactly what I'm talking about. But if the preference has been there since early teenage or before, then it may not be rooted in insecurities. could be more genuine. I was really into petite submissive women when I was a teen, that would've been a genuine preference but it changed a lot when I grew older.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:50 AM
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Courting is a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of an LTR and women carry a disproportionate burden Not really. It's a big part. That's why women might compensate it at a later stage, which makes it completely proportional. But a lot of the times men continue to put the same amount of effort so it's never really equalized. Men aren't easy to be in LTRs with. They in fact are, or else women would never be in relationships with them. Then leave women alone except for prostitutes or chicks down for casual …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:42 AM
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someone who will put massive amounts of time and energy into them. It's the man who puts massive amounts of time, effort and energy into courting their partners in straight relationships. If I had to compare, I'd say that even the mid and ugly women get partners pretty conveniently when compared to men. Poor girls stuck with guys who are using them for sex So they're raping their girlfriends? Because unless that's what's happening, the girls are also "using" those guys for sex. But this statemen…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:03 PM
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And if you hang out and socialize where hook ups happen, odds are, unless you're butt ugly, you'll hook up at some point. idk about that. So they wait if and until they have an option for an ideal one. And yet they end up with an "ideal option" that'a not as hot as their hook ups. I'm disagreeing with your very linear and deterministic view of human nature and behavior. You can disagree if you want, but the general male experience says otherwise. unless you've been in groups of female friends wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:34 PM
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lol, happy to help. I did post it with an intent to debate but it's always nice if I can make people think with my comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:27 PM
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I also thought I didn't have it. But then I found out that I still got habitual to being praised by school teachers/authority figures as a kid. So that played a role in me being into older women. I just clubbed all of this into the "mommy/daddy issues" to keep it short but I hope you get the context now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:25 PM
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That's not for me to decide. But it could be really helpful to ask yourself WHY you find them attractive... like the actual selfish reasons - what's in it for you? and then you might get some answers that would make that attraction feel very mechanical. Idk what healthy attraction would be like in your case though, I've only ever thought of it in a straight dating context.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:22 PM
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Yep. That's where admiration plays a role and then you start looking for approval from someone you admire. Which is natural but also a form of weakness if you think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:16 PM
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The combination of insecurities that work to give someone the preferences they have is individual and unique, true. But unless they end up with a random partner when they were not looking and just happened to "match vibes", it makes sense to me why anyone would look for a list of specific traits in a hypothetical future partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:13 PM
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There are a few factors which could inspire attraction towards older women: It could be that one sees them as more competent, mature etc - in which case they would look for some form of validation from them. It could be that one sees them as easier, because there's less competition as everyone else is going after the "hot 20 y.o.'s" It could also just be that older women are more open socially and easier to interact with, less guarded, more aware of their own preferences etc. which makes it less…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:09 PM
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Well yes, having preferences that conform to the social norms could be another kind of validation-seeking.... but that would just mean that any preferences at all are rooted in some kind of lack within. But I don't get paid to think that deeply so I stopped at the first half.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 06:02 PM
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It makes a lot of sense for someone who is happy being single. If everyone was happy being single, there would be no relationships forming at all. But most of the people are in fact not happy single, especially when it's so convenient to date a man than to not date one. That's also why most bi women end up with men and most bi men also end up with men. Or the guy who is available and makes them feel comfortable when they're horny. Eh.. Almost anyone can do that. But not everyone can be chad. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:59 PM
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Maybe not in the racial context, but in cultures where people have varying skin tones and fairness is idealised, there is. But I agree that this one might be more situational and not as objective as others.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:51 PM
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must've forgotten to type it out then. But taunts apart, what was your counterpoint?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:43 PM
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Could be true. I personally see no value in a committed relationship that lacks genuine physical attraction. Most people are not that balanced, unfortunately. So they settle down with their match eventually and convince themselves that they are attracted enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:42 PM
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Or maybe you're projecting. Impossible. Maybe some women do date the men they desire most and only hook up with men they find less desirable. that makes no sense. They date men who fulfill other, non physical criteria as well, therefore the man in question has more room to be physically unattractive if he compensates with other qualities. That's why assortative mating exists. For hook ups, on the other hand, non physical criteria are not essential, so women go for the hottest guys available. How…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:40 PM
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So... like buying a movie to watch it again instead of just enjoying it this one time and moving on? thats a stronger indication of desire than just being happy with you having sex with anyone you want, any time you want. With all that math, it doesn't sound like desire to me, it sounds more like resource planning.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:33 PM
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have you heard the phrase "easy as fuck"? I'm sure it was not a man who coined that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:39 PM
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finally a ppd hot take I can agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:38 PM
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on surface level, good. on an internal level, he's gonna have much bigger problems if his happiness depends on a set of fake hair and some glue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:37 PM
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Wanting exclusivity is desire for exclusivity for sure, not necessarily for the object of desire though. I can enjoy admiring sunsets without feeling the need to buy exclusive rights to look at the sun. I don't care if others enjoy it too. When it's me looking at it, the moment is all that matters. It's the same with enjoying other people's company, sexual or otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:33 PM
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Winning a lottery would also make me feel really validated and hype me up. But that doesn't mean that I don't value my 9-5 job. You could find meaning in the mundane things in life because not everyone can be alexander the great.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:29 PM
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The majority of men can’t make women feel as desired as men who only want relationships with them. I agree. What makes women feel desired is different than what makes men feel desired. Women don't want to give what men need to feel desired and vice versa. But I don't see men trying to gaslight women by saying that women who are wanted for commitment are less desirable than those who are wanted for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:25 PM
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sounds like it's mixed up with a lot of expectations and calculation. Attraction to appearance IS pure though, since it can be isolated from the other intellectual processes. What you're describing is a cocktail. It could be fun for you personally but it's far from pure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:22 PM
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do you have a counterpoint or...?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:19 PM
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except that exclusivity IS ownership. Maybe not in a strict capitalistic sense, but it still is. Do you feel cheated on when your friends make other friends? or when your parents have other children? Why do you expect exclusivity in romantic/sexual relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:19 PM
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being born male or female is also not under your control. Do you not own your masculinity/femininity as a man/woman? Physical desire is aimed at physical features. A desire towards actions/effort is not as instinctive and pure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:50 PM
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wanting you as private property is the desire for a social status they would get through that ownership. Wanting to just have sex is the desire for your body - the true desire. Not owning a human does not make them a "community property". It makes them an equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:38 PM
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Was getting drunk last week and came up with a theory: Every preference you have for a "non-perfect" physical quality is rooted in your own insecurity. You like dadbods/chubby bodies? - insecure about your own body and want to be the hotter partner in the couple. You like older men/women? - daddy/mommy issues Darker skin tones? - insecurity regarding your own skin. Prefer tall women/short men? - Either insecure about yourself being too tall or too short. And so on. So imagine you had the perfect…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:34 PM
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I, too, need a woman to match me in maturity levels. That's why I only date women who are much older than myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:28 PM
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Sometimes I wonder whether women actually believe in the lies they tell to make their choices sound morally superior. look at the justifications they give in this thread lol. Anyone with one eye and two working brain cells can understand that it is much more difficult and rarer for a man to get casual sex. Any ape could get a committed relationship at some point in his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:24 PM
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because that's not desire. That's ownership.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:21 PM
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men who are hot get more sex. ftfy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:21 PM
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idk, if I were desired for my looks alone I'd hardly feel like an impostor. Even better, I'd feel less like a tool and more like a human who is valued for himself and not for what he can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:18 PM
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idk persian chicks are kinda hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:38 PM
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considering how it were the leftists (mainly women) in Iran who brought this islamic regime through revolution, they themselves will walk back into this cage if they still deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:38 PM
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got banned from a sub for brown chicks for saying "Sydney Sweeny has great jeans" a few months ago lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:35 PM
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I'll do you one better - and in this case you won't have to change a thing in the society. Women are already stigmatised (or at least incentivised against) from approaching men in general. "If he wanted to, he would." "Why would I beg for a man's attention when there are many other already waiting for mine?" And all other such bs that allows women to be lazy fucks and easily coast through hook ups, dating and relationships without lifting a finger. In such a world if a woman does actually approa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:32 PM
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I just feel dumb for desiring them more than they desire me, mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 10:52 AM
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Which just means that women have pretty bodies but men have beautiful souls. That's why everyone gets along well with men. I guess that's why the Jains believe that women cannot attain liberation? They have to be born again at least once as a man, and through that birth they could be freed from the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 10:56 AM
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That just means that a few more women orgasm in committed relationships than in casual sex. But it's still not "almost all" vs "none". All of these stats say more about women than about men tbh. Casual sex doesn't make any more or less respectful, neither does serious dating. It's all just insecurities that are already there in women's minds that are projected out in their experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:11 PM
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I would say that second conclusion would be closer to the truth. Given all the whining about orgasm gap etc. (which applies to committed relationships as well).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:05 PM
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Stats still say nothing about interpersonal interactions and what kind of men/women they are. The responsibility of picking the right kind of partner, even for casual sex, falls on the picker. It doesn't mean that casual sex in itself is a bad deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 12:40 PM
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idk about that. Selfish guys can want committed relationships. And non selfish, sexually skilled guys can want casual sex and variety in partners. If you are constantly encountering selfish guys in casual sex scene, you'll probably do the same in serious dating scene as well. Flowers attract butterflies, rot attracts flies. Change what needs to be changed and you might get thoughtful, giving and generous guys for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 10:06 AM
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Attraction is more than just the physical. True. It can be attraction to competence... which can be gained and lost over time, or to skills... that can be learned and forgotten, or to behaviour.... which changes with age, or to personality..... which changes with time and experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:08 PM
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More like discussing dating and attraction while intentionally excluding the looks aspect is dumb as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:06 PM
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I believe that women here are wise enough to not have sex with men who they don't wanna have sex with. All of these "problems" won't exist if you do that. men tend to not actually want to be in a relationship with you Good riddance then. You dodged a bullet. Congrats. treat you the worst in general Worse than what? Comparison is the thief of joy you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:05 PM
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You phrase it as if the woman is providing him a service.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:00 PM
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If you give a cash present to someone for their wedding, do you also consider them "taking away your resources"? No because you get to eat at their dinner buffet that the married couple is hosting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:53 PM
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debate
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:32 AM
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how does it change anything that I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:59 AM
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so you're.... moist?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:59 AM
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That depends on whether you're looking from above or below. But I'd recommend you to look inwards instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:58 AM
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Everyone who takes pleasure in brutally punishing someone for whatever reason is no less a barbarian than any other. Just because their sadism is covered in the veil of a self righteous morality doesn't mean it isn't sadism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:56 AM
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Are you arguing on behalf of the ppd men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:48 AM
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Whose body count gets +1? Who is keeping the count? Who cares? What are the physical, economic consequences of a +1 body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:10 PM
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Men trying to get women to do something that benefits men, is no different than women trying to get men to do something that benefits women Me asking someone to dance with me is not the same as me asking someone to stab themselves for my amusement. Both can be framed as "something for my enjoyment" but one is clearly harmful and deals a loss to someone while the other does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:09 PM
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Doesn't matter who said it. If you expect to get paid to have sex you are a SW, right or wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 03:15 PM
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What’s the benefit to the woman having casual sex with you? That's for her to decide. Not my problem. You are trying to get a woman to do something that does not benefit her, that is the point. I am not trying to get anyone to do anything. If a woman enjoys sex, she would want to have it. Simple as that. It is no different than a woman trying to get you to give her money Me trying to get a woman to give me money is no different than she trying to get me to give her money. Sex is an equivalent ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 03:11 PM
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Because you are going to have sex with him Wasn't it you who said this?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 03:07 PM
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Do I "like flowers" if I can stand the sight of a very particular blue rose only on certain days? Or do I like flowers if the mere thought of them brings a smile on my face, irrespective of whether it's a lotus, or a rose, or a sunflower, or any other flower on any given day? I'd say that I don't like flowers at all if I were the first guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:42 PM
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You think women view sex and sexuality the exact same way as men. This couldn't be further from the truth. I know. They view sex as a token to be exchanged for other favors. A means to an end, a currency. view sex in the same unsentimental, self-serving, sweeping way How is it "self-serving" to engage in an activity that leads to bonding and enjoyment for everyone involved. Is it self serving and gross to want to sing and dance with others? Sex in itself has value, so I'd say it's not unsentimen…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:39 PM
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So women are asexuals?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:34 PM
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So you want to be paid for having sex with him? Didn't know you were a SW but cool. 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:33 PM
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benefit them at the woman’s expense What's the woman's expense in a casual hook up where both are consensually participating? Men really fail to grasp that the idea of sex with most men is repulsive and offers the woman nothing at all Why is the woman willing to leech off of a man she's repulsed to have sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 02:31 PM
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Stepping out of your house carries risks too. Would you advise everyone to leck themselves indoors? Or would you advise them to take necessary precautions and still go out, because going out is fun and meaningful? Casual sex is the same. Yes there are risks. That's why you take necessary precautions and still pursue it..... that's if you actually want it. All these excuses women make are just that. Excuses. To justify not pursuing sex because they don't really want it or like it as much as men d…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:23 PM
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You talk like relationships are not selfish and desperate lol. And no, seeking out sexual pleasure just the way evolution made humans to do is not "gross" or "desperate". It's being in tune with your nature and listening to your body. It's pretty wholesome. And honestly, one who actually likes sex and humans at all would do the same. Women finding it "gross" have some complexes around sexuality and an inherent hatred towards men that they should fix before approaching any kind of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:17 PM
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Because in seeking out this "acquisition of resources" you are doing it at someone else's expense, literally. To gain that resource, someone has to lose it. No one loses anything in a consensual sexual experience. That's like asking "why is eating cake more noble than hunting for sport in your mind?" Do you hear yourself before asking such questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:13 PM
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How is the gold digger "taking away a resource"? Because the resource was once in the guy's bank account/wallet. Now it is in the woman's bank account/exchanged for something she is consuming. You are just arguing in bad faith at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:10 PM
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more excuses then. okay
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:44 AM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:06 AM
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Condoms are cheap and easy to put on, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:01 AM
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Time being "given voluntarily" into sex is being given by both (or all) parties. Is the woman giving an equal amount of money to the man? If not, then she is gaining money, he is losing money. It's a net negative on the man. Sex is not a net negative on the woman. Idk if they teach you how money works in america, but the women here fighting tooth and nail to defend and justify their parasitic behaviors is amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:00 AM
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If by different you mean that one seeks out sexual pleasure while the other seeks out parasitically extracting resources from someone for enjoyment, then it's really sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:53 AM
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Women were getting judged very harshly when they first started pursuing careers and breaking gender norms.. Judgement didn't stop them from doing that, you know why? Because they actually wanted to do it. If women actually wanted to have sex with men, these excuses of "men judge us" wouldn't be relevant. So no, sex doesn't take away anything from anyone. Which is different from taking someone else's hard earned money.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 03:15 AM
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The male equivalent of having a man entertain you and spend money on you... is having a woman entertain you and spend money on you. The female equivalent of getting your dick wet... is getting your pussy wet. Anything else is a false equivalence. Men AND women are both sexual beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 03:12 AM
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because humans are sexual beings?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:39 AM
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Oh, do women function according to what men believe now?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:39 AM
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Why is women's fun dependent on someone else spending his money on her?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:54 PM
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Is something being taken away from someone during sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:53 PM
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Very different country, currency, economy. Plus it was a big joint family so idk how much of it was my dad's vs my uncles, grandpa etc. But if they managed to send me to a first world country I guess we're atleast an upper middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:51 PM
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it's satire only until it actually happens. I'm sure there's a hot enough guy out there who could do just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:48 PM
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I see a woman in revealing clothes my first two thoughts are: whoa I wish I could wear something revealing and have women look at me the same way I look at them. But I know that would never happen. What's the point of wanting something that you know you can't get? Rinse, Repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:45 PM
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weird way to out one's father as an asshole but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:37 PM
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would you look at that! pAtRiaRchY was a person all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:36 PM
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It's not that they don't want to. It's more that they are more risk averse. It could be said that they, as a gender, are [redacted] (idk if we're allowed to refer to female genitalia in that sense now) I do and will always believe that women are capable of great evil and committing atrocities beyond imagination if given enough freedom (from consequences and judgement).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:34 PM
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I was today years old when I realised that Frodo was The Guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:29 PM
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I think it’s the 1:1 equivalent. In one case two people are enjoying an activity together. In the other one person is taking away a resource that the other person had earned through hard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:27 PM
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Because Money is a resource, sex is not. Sex is an activity that two (or more) people do together. No one can take away a high five from you. But you and the other person can high five each other. Sex is the same. Money on the other hand is a very real resource that has to be earned. And it being spent onto someone else is an objective loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 10:23 PM
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I think women are smart enough to decide for themselves what a good deal is or isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 04:00 PM
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exactly. It must be a damned if you do damned if you don't situation, which is why they just give a "think again" to those clients.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 12:48 PM
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You are not doing anyone any favors by popping out kids. Anyone who doesn't want kids is free to not have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:13 AM
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"And still people think that focusing on making a good CV is going to get them any success in finding a job. What a bunch of losers"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:53 PM
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so thick and curvy 🥰 absolute mom bod.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 08:50 PM
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There's a separate word for those who are not into sex. It's called "asexual". "Into sex" kinda comes inside the definition of straight/gay/bi.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 06:14 PM
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if being straight makes them desirable and "top" then sure I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:06 PM
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Sex in itself is not a trap. It's the desire for sex, and the pursuit if that desire that traps the man. Do not hate it, do not fight or run from it. Sit back, observe the desire without judgement. Desire is like smoke. When you keep looking at it, it dissipates. Detatch yourself from the desire. Then go out and fuck bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:01 PM
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Rarity and "Top" in a hierarchy are two different things. When women compete for a top percentage of men, they are competing for attention/commitment from men who are better than other men in one or multiple aspects. That's what makes them attractive in the first place. "Willingness to casual sex" is not something that could be ranked on a hieararchy. So women who are willing to have casual sex are just that. Yes they might be rare, but they are no better or worse than any other kind of woman. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 01:52 PM
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Well yeah, try banning any discussion about cardio from a fitness sub and then put a separate bi-weekly thread about it. Would it be any useful if people are forced to discuss that integral factor separately, without the context of the complete discussions? Points regarding looks should be allowed within the conversations, not as a separate thread, otherwise they lose their context.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:35 PM
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Wouldn't say I'm "obsessed with looks" but looks are the primary driving force in my attraction. When I was a teenager, I was attracted to teenagers. Now that I am in my mid 20s, I find women within the range of early 20s to early-mid 30s attractive. (Although I can tell when someone is in early 20s because they have a certain immaturity on their face). Idk maybe I'll be attracted to the looks of an upper age range when I get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:31 PM
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I always wanted a stable family and partner "wanting" something is an invention of your mind. Your desires are influenced by multiple factors, including social programming. I never ever felt a biological urge to couple with multiple partner. Did you ever find more than one person attractive? Monogamy is a rare occurance in nature. Most species either mate with multiple partners at once or with one partner at a time... multiple times. If humans were truly monogamous, their sex drives would die an…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 05:00 PM
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Your the result of a lineage that never stopped. So is every grass, goldfish, bird, beast, critter and crawler. Being able to reproduce doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Most men that reproduced in prehistory managed to not die of war or disease. Most who reproduced through medieval times did so because their parents arranged their marriages (still true in south asia). All that says nothing about genetic quality at all. You’ll find the one. Or the two, or the three, or none. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:58 PM
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"This just in, body positivity was a redundant movement"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 03:46 PM
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Attachments often persevere in illogical ways. If they are unable to let go of attachments that are hurting them, then they have bigger issues to resolve than some lack of orgasm. That doesn't mean you won't hear complaining about it while. People are free to complain for anything they fancy, others are free to not take those complaints seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:29 PM
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if someone actually suffers from a relationship where they don't get orgasms, I trust that they will be adults enough to make decisions in their favour and end that relationship. As for the majority who complain a lot and do nothing about it, there's a certain enjoyment/validation they gain out of being perpetual victims and externalizing blame. I'd take the conplaints from such groups with a grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:27 PM
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and they act like they can't think about that, and they just want a job, and don't care about anything else, that would be disingenuous? Yes, if they do that then that would be disingeneous. When i say that i want a job with good working conditions and they say that i'm privileged when it's exactly what they want for themselves - it's also not really MY fault for "misunderstanding" isn't it? In this case, their definition and yours of "good working conditions" may vary. I don't think anyone woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:26 PM
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Then my point is basically that men don't say about that part of their preferences/standards for whatever reason When someone says "I just want a job" do you assume that they want a job that doesn't pay them? Because people in general don't want just someone, they want that someone to have pleasant personality I agree, but I don't think anyone would pretend to not have these basic standards. I think what you're confuing it with is the men pointing out how other men can be seen putting up with ru…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:10 PM
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The comment I replied to asked us to imagine if men never got to orgasm with sex (or just 11% of the time). I told how that would affect my attitude as a man. If I were approaching casual sex as a cis woman.... then I'd be a cis woman and not myself, so that hypothetical is redundant.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:05 PM
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I would say yes. And all those "be an asshole" tips from redpill work only on women who are suffering from insecurities themselves. Any mentally healthy, balanced person would know that partners are supposed to care for, be nice, and admire each other. That's what I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:56 PM
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"you have high standards, unlike me, i just need a woman who is hot". So either they do it on purpose simply to attack women, or they do it without being aware that they need it, and virtue signal how they don't need much. That would depend on the individual case. Being nice and kind and caring are the bare minimum for a partner, yes. Maybe there are men who actually don't have that standard and are just happy with a "hot" partner. Maybe there are women who actually expect much greater effort fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:13 PM
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That's what they think Everyone likes when others are agreeable to him/her. If a guy is disagreeable and makes it challenging to have any discussions/work done at all, the woman will lose attraction within a hearbeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:09 PM
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They list a few obvious traits: looks, youth, being thin, not promiscuous, not a single mother… These are the things listed from the male POV looking at his object of attraction. The attention is going from the guy to the girl when it comes to these traits. They want her to be agreeable. They want her to be nice to them. They want her to admire them. They want to feel respected, appreciated, and important in her eyes. They want warmth, encouragement, validation, emotional comfort. These traits a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:54 AM
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the people most commonly put in this position also tend to complain about literally everything, it might help to remember this fact when dealing with the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 07:59 AM
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maybe then women should stop pretending that it's the most logical conclusion to reach "beacuse muh orgasms".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 07:57 AM
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you do not want to be penetrated speak for yourself 😤
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:02 AM
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The prospect of sex would still be as exciting, especially when orgasm is such a trivial thing that you can have it with a few strokes of your hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 12:00 AM
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And the majority of us (women) do not want to have sex with men forward but not very straight if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 11:59 PM
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I think the point they are trying to make is that short guys are not wanted for their height, but despite their height. Unlike tall guys who are oftentimes attractive because of their height. Yeah sure, you can pile up redeeming qualities, become the goodest guy, win a nobel prize and then someone might like you despite of your lack of height or looks, but is that really a "win"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:20 AM
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Exactly. I've always been conflicted in my relationship goals, in whether I should get a trophy gf or be a trophy bf. Because this 2nd option is so enticing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 09:13 AM
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What good is an insight to a finctional woman's dating preferences to me? If an actual straight woman would explain her dating experience and preferences/reasoning, I might try to understand that, but only within her personal context.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 01:04 AM
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schade
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 12:58 AM
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Of course a woman's experience in dating would be foreign to me lol. I've never been a straight woman dating men. Plenty of people believe that they can understand another person's experience, true. But how do they know how accurate or not their "understanding" is? I'm simply not gonna pretend that I'd have any idea about it. And I don't worry about it because I have my own experience to take care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 12:57 AM
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Which is why a wise man once said - "From a logical point if view, better marry a woman uglier than you."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 12:52 AM
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no. Anyone who says they believe so are either A) religious/prude or B) a woman who settled for a mid guy that couldn't get casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 12:51 AM
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Not even in the looks thread? I was doubtful whether it would be allowed here or not, but this is disappointing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 12:46 AM
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I wouldn't know what kind of a woman I'd be and what kind of men I'd prefer. This is like going to a vegetarian and asking "If you suddenly became a non-vegetarian, what meats would be your favourite?" Like how tf is he supposed to kniw when he never tasted meat and probably never even thought about it? TLDR: if I woke up a straight woman I'd be a different person. It's better to ask thus question to her instead of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 12:44 AM
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True. From what I've heard, the women from slavic/balkan countries are more open to dating men of color as opposed to those in proper west. Location also matters for sure. I don't think I'd find as many pretty women in America as I do in Europe, even if they're the same ethnicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:25 PM
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Do you guys think race plays a role in looks or nah? I came to europe and everytime I step out into the streets I'm surrounded by fairies. Back in my home country it's a good day if I spot one cute/hot chick.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:53 PM
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I would only date someone the sane height or taller than me. If she were significantly taller? I'd be head over heels.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:50 PM
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you try to think or understand what goes on in other people's minds that motivates them to act a certain way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:18 PM
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I could never understand this. That's like saying orange is redder than red.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:05 PM
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very buddhist of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:04 PM
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I wonder what goes through the minds That's where you're going wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:03 PM
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"one one person can come in first in the marathon but there's 20 guys running it. Are they dumb?"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 12:48 PM
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bronze
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 09:35 AM
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If she had her tongue up there she's a warrior and deserves respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 09:31 PM
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They give a more lean/atheletic aesthetic which has something hot about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 09:30 PM
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"Why does it matter that looks matter?" Do you hear yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 09:28 PM
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Just sounds like a gender flipped version of a typical female profile tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 09:23 PM
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Speak for yourself. I absolutely love Dominant women. Dommes ftw.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 11:03 AM
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They look pretty looksmatched tbh. Also big age gaps are still seen as pretty odd in Indian arranged marriages, so of course both of them would be in the same age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:09 PM
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idk man. She might have had other motives then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:14 PM
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He is just 5'4 BUT she is shorter. The girl is from a billionaire family BUT the guy is a Cricketer (cricketers are no less than celebrities in India fyi). The pairing follows the pattern if anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:36 PM
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Thank you for the well-thought out answer. It makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 12:34 PM
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And even then they typically have to prove themselves or get a lucky break to break out of the "handsome" typecasting. lol. I remember Jason Momoa having a hard time finding roles after Khal Drogo because casting directors had an impression that he doesn't speak English.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:34 AM
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What if you’re a genuinely kind attractive person with good character who adequately self reflects and doesn’t misbehave? Then it's cool I guess. I'd say as long as self reflection and character development is there, external factors are immaterial.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:31 AM
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Just make Tinder/Bumble accounts and see how many likes you get there. That's a reliable metric.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:28 AM
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There are cultures where being obese is seen as attractive. And those cultures are not globally influencial for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:26 AM
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found an interview of the creators with "The Film Theorists" where they said the plot can go along for another 12-13 years and I understood what they were trying to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:24 AM
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"Productivity" culture does a great job building economies and breaking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:23 AM
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The only honest position is "idk, who cares".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:21 AM
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So "growing on to each other" would be enough to be happy in a marriage even in the absence of attraction, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:19 AM
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The biggest negative aspect is that the halo effect would allow them to live through their lives without feeling the need to self reflect or develop character in many aspects. It's kind of similar to being born rich or powerful. I'm not saying that all attractive people are vain or all ugly ones are kind. But it's just harder to learn kindness when everyone lets your misbehaviour go unpunished.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:10 AM
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most people will find love if they start looking within themselves instead of begging for it from external sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:02 AM
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Never had to worry about being settled for resources because I have none (Take that, Golddiggers!). But I'd know that I'm not being settled for if a woman initiates interaction with me, actively shows interest and, ideally, is explicitly interested in hooking up with me. If that interest continues after the hook up then I'd know it can go somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:57 AM
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Most people aren’t actually happy in their marriages I think the same but the married/older people assert otherwise. So I asked the question taking their claim at face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:49 PM
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Almost got rid of the habit to check reddit out of boredom.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:46 PM
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That's true. Do you think that people who married out of duty/politics also ended up happy with their marriages?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:44 PM
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sure
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:43 PM
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From what I've read - Sex makes brain release oxytocin and dopamine. Orgasm releases dopamine. Eating something good releases oxytocin. So if you rub one out and then have an ice cream....
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:13 AM
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Yes I realize that. And I am also saying that people who do not have looks (keys) cannot enter the door because the door will always remain shut for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:59 AM
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Knowing that only a select few people are actually hot at any given time, and yet almost all of the people have managed to marry and breed (except for monks, nuns, infant mortality and soldiers sent off to wars - which takes out a huge chunk of total human population), it is sort of understandable that most partnered people were not, are not, and will not be actually physically attracted to their partners... and yet a lot (if not all) of them have led, are leading, will lead happy/content marrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:54 AM
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Any set of hands and body can turn the key. Any key cannot open a particular door. So I'd say key is more important here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:46 AM
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And yet if you lack the looks, the door stays shut. Some would say keys are really important in the process of unlocking doors.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 09:08 AM
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"Indian? No you can't be." - The Döner guy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 09:04 AM
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Unbanned just in time for the Looks megathread 😇
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 10:50 PM
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both look okay - i guess that's because both are celebs. On regular people though, I think a big forehead never does any good.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 10:50 PM
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God forbid a man has standards and wants to be desired by his partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 10:04 AM
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Yep. I've only been explaining how marriage is artificial in every comment lol. You just don't agree with it. Let's stop at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 02:59 PM
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So... like a RedPill Jesus to separate the old and new testaments?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 02:50 PM
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It is real in the sense that the people cohabiting together have some kind of relationship, yes. The concept of marriage itself is an arrangement, and thus, artificial. Reading vows, getting socially validated and approved, legal documantation, combining the resources, family planning. I wouldn't call this "few arrangements". These arrangements are all that defines a marriage. Would the love between 2 people just living together be the same? Yes. Would they get as much social and legal recogniti…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 02:46 PM
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never would have even thought about him as a potential love interest The level of desire I have for him is super intense. lmao sure
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:12 PM
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Yep. Ending up with a woman is never the goal. Or at least not the goal that will be fulfilling anyway. The goal is to be wanted. To be genuinely desired by women. And the only way you can ensure that the woman you end up with actually desires you is to let her come to you instead. The way she initiates, the way she approaches, talks, compliments, looks at him are proof that she is attracted. And if "most men don't get that" then those most men are better off single. They don't need to pursue an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:05 PM
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All arrangements are artificial by the virtue of them being arranged. Sleep is natural. Renting a room, buying a bed and pillow for yourself to sleep on is an arrangement. That is artificial. Do you see the difference? or are you arguing for the sake of arguing?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:33 AM
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No, I'd prefer she makes much more than me. Someone's gotta fund my hobbies and it ain't gonna be me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 11:19 PM
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The woman I wife up wouldn't be such a prude.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 11:09 PM
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Yes. Only people with certain level of education / or people who clear a certain examination and prove that they are literate enough to know what's good for them and the country should be given the right to vote. Like the council of elders in Rome who elected the king - only it won't be a council but a qualified section of the overall population.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 11:05 PM
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right now. Life fucks us everyday brudi.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 11:03 PM
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a life undominated is a life unlived. ~ suckretits
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 11:01 PM
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Love that ends in one day is good. Love that ends in a year is good. Love that doesn't end in a lifetime is also good. But marriage is fake because it is an artificial arrangement made by humans. An arrangement based on the concept of security, ownership, and obligations. Both things are in fact not even close to each other. They are two very different things. But people often confuse the two. And mistake marriage for "lifelong love".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 10:59 PM
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but it's not ideal, it's not right and it's certainly not better ideal, better all language of comparison. Comparison with what could be, what should be. If a sunflower grows in your garden, do you get upset that it's not a rose? You expect your parents to love you for their whole lives to, will you say that causes disappointments and pain as that might not work out? With parents it's not just love. A big part of the equation is attachment. Attachment to their own blood, their own self. Do you t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 01:40 PM
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heartbreak would say it was "right" every beginning has an end. Death is painful, so are heartbreaks. Life doesn't have to be eternal for it to be meaningful or "special". Neither does love. is expected to last the rest of your life Expected by who? Those expectations are the root cause of disappointments and pain if you look close enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 05:33 AM
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It doesn't end prematurely. That's the point. It ends when the time is right. And yes, sometimes love may last until death, but do you really believe that it is the case for as many people as many end up married? It is a wish, a stubborn wish that their love should last forever. It is their wish to own the other person, to call them "mine" that leads people to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:03 PM
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Disagreements.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:25 PM
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In this one sided version of your argument that you made up? I see no disagreements. I also see no biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:17 PM
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Disagreeing with disagreeable arguments is not a "men are wonderful bias". It's just disagreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:12 PM
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"men are wonderful" bias There's no such thing. The Women are wonderful effect exists as a proven phenomenon but there's no gender flipped version of it. Hope that helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:04 PM
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Osho says that Love is like a flower - it blooms when the right time arrives. It's beauty is authentic, it's fragrance is meaningful, and it lives its course and dies when the season is over. And that is why people are not satisfied with it. It's a human tendency to associate authenticity with longevity. "if it were true it would last forever". So they make plastic flowers, colouring them with artificial colours and embuing them with fake fragrances to imitate a real flower. This is marriage. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 10:16 AM
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lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:08 PM
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TLDR bitte.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 10:01 PM
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Yes, he would. Sure, because he's such a nice person who'd concern himself with the troubles of university students. Right? "Out of the goodness of his heart" ? Sounds like the permanent employee would have a great idea of which university has better job prospects. More likely he wouldn't because he got employed under different circumstances, at a different time, in a different job market. The ones who are still applying for jobs, giving interviews, watching their peers get employed would have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 09:59 PM
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It's not about "shouldn't" as a rule. It's about life stages. A person who is a permanent employee at a well established company wouldn't argue with students about which university has better job prosepects. He's well past that stage. And if he is still engaging in debates and rubbing his "success" in their faces then there's something shady in his motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:16 PM
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How should happily married people post in this sub? They shouldn't. And if they were actually happily married they wouldn't be here. Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 06:32 PM
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A cautious digger is a happy digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 06:29 PM
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They don’t feel love through sex. That's for them to decide.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 03:39 PM
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Then they dont feel love through sex. They do, if the person they're having sex with is of substance and there's a spark.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 03:29 PM
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The history might remember the first man who strikes the stone, and the last blow that broke it, but it doesn't mean that the blows in between didn't matter as much. ~ Buddha probably 2nd.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 03:27 PM
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men tend to keep their distance from most women unless they’re interested in pursuing something sexual or romantic. You said you agreed with this, I just told you how it's not always true. Men tend to view interactions with women through a primarily romantic/sexual lens—even when they begin as “just friends”—because they see friendship as transient and less central in adult life. I just told how I don't view them that way. Women are more likely to believe (and value) the possibility of genuine, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 02:47 PM
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many men simply don’t invest much emotional energy in platonic relationships with women outside of a few specific contexts Which is weird. It takes literally nothing to make friends. I, for one, never go out of my way "to make friends". I go about living life and befriend people that cross paths with me. Friends might be temporary, but wouldn't you rather spend that temporary phase with a good friend? The problem for me is - I make platonic friends with women only after deciding that I'd never p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 02:39 PM
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If you are fine with having casual sex, then claiming “I feel love through sex” is a lie. You just want sex and wont admit it. Or maybe they really do feel love through sex but the person they just had sex with had no substance and the spark was just not there. would you actually believe a woman saying “I feel love through money, jewelry, gifts, and/or expensive dinners. That just how women are”? Yes. They call it "love language - gift giving". Most women have this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 02:30 PM
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lmao sure
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 02:07 PM
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idk if I can compartmentalise attraction. What would be hot without cute and beautiful? Cute without hot and beautiful? Beauty without the other two?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 01:26 PM
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I would've been happy to believe otherwise if I ever came across enough truly dominant women. And I've tried looking for them. women are inherently submissive Not so much "inherently submissive" but "predominantly submissive leaning" IF they are ever interested in power play at all. women who deviate from this are an aberration Not enough women deviate from this, unfortunately. And yes, those who do will be "abnormal" because women being more interested in submissive roles is the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:10 PM
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does "not liking femdom" automatically mean they are "submissive doormats"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 11:43 AM
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all women want to be submissive doormats Where did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 10:53 AM
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When we are discussing what is liked and disliked by people, opinions are quite literally the facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 07:22 AM
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Oh that's true. I mistook OP for a woman. That was my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 01:07 AM
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I talked with him and wanted him. I talked with him and wanted him..... forever. In this respect they were the same, qualitatively. He was very attractive. And tall, like 6'2 He's not as tall but he's still taller than me In this respect the "himbo" fares better because you can acknowledge that he was "very attractive" and "tall" .. more so than your husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 01:05 AM
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bad face
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 01:00 AM
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Like absolutely breathtaking 🥲 Are you genZ by any chance? What is like your ideal? When you are talking about what your ideal "hot" person looks like what comes to mind? An Elf, a Targaryen. Red/blonde hair, bright blue/green eyes, skin pale as the moon. An inhuman beauty in the face. A bit taller and fitter than a regular athlete woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:41 AM
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Y'all need to stop listening to losers with YouTube channels and socialize. You don't need to listen to losers on youtube, just need a tinder account to find out firsthand.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:37 AM
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absolut chad
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:34 AM
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No I mean there are women who agree right in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:33 AM
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Yes. But it was not sudden like a butterfly bursting through a cocoon. It was more like building a cocoon and lying in it, brewing until you turn to mush.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:19 AM
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Full respect 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:15 AM
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12 but I get a feeling that one of them is gonna betray me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:14 AM
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I'll wait until I reach nirvana. Then I'll explain love to men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:12 AM
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He wouldn't want someone to top him if he were hot or had a big dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:09 AM
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true
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:07 AM
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There are women who agree with my conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:07 AM
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popular opinion says otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:06 AM
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... and with pillows and pies and stuffed animals or anything else but that doesn't count as casual sex since they'd be doing it with something they aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 03:44 PM
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Oh lol. Makes sense then. My last paragraph still applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 03:40 PM
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Both sexes see their own settling as a favour they do for the other while simultaneously taking the other party settling as an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 03:39 PM
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Another proof that even the "Domme" women are repulsed by dominating guys. Femdom is an exclusively male fantasy. As for your experience OP, you're an adult. Not doing something "gross" vs getting easy money is a decision I believe you can make for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 03:33 PM
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It is not an insult if a woman wouldn't have casual sex with you but would date you seriously More attractive men can get casual sex The ability to get casual sex doesn't mean the guy is more attractive or better. The jokes write themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 03:29 PM
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Full support 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 03:54 PM
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A dark force rises in the east.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 12:39 PM
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Many people pursue relationships for many different reasons and motivations. All of those motivations are valid for them. And it is no one's place to tell them otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 09:48 AM
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lol. To each their own I guess. You have your reasons, those should be enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:43 PM
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It just means it’s going to be harder for me to orgasm🤷‍♀️ Understandable. But again, I wouldn't have sex where I weren't guaranteed an orgasm or validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 02:38 PM
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For me. If I’m not instantly attracted to a man and he’s physically attractive enough to be in the maybe pile; his personality can make him more physically attractive to me. I’ll start noticing things about his physical body that I like or turn me on. Ie. His eyes are really pretty. He has really sexy shoulders. His smile makes my blood flow. It’s not that I’m attracted to his personality but not his physical body. I can become physically attracted through his personality. That's the kind of thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 11:08 PM
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Not physically attracted. I’ve had men get to know me then become attracted. To my personality Isn't that how most women are attracted to their partners? To their personalities but not physically? And women insist that it IS actual attraction and that's just how women's attraction works. What if men's attraction just works the same way for you? I’m not having sex for validation currently. Wondering whether someone is attracted to you comes from a place of seeking validation. If you were just hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 07:02 PM
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lmao. If the dude is having sex with you then that's pretty strong evidence of attractions. idk why you're complicating it. Still if you don't feel like he's attracted to you, why continue having sex with him? It doesn't serve the purpose of validating you, so it's pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 06:30 PM
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If you look at yourself, and then you look at an attractive man, surely you can understand why a woman would pick the attractive man over you if you are not that genetically blessed. Then why do women on this sub insist on being "attracted" to their mid husbands/boyfriends? Why do they claim that women can be genuinely attracted to non Chads? I think you gals should first sort it out amongst yourselves before questioning or arguing with men. Also, aren't looks based comments/discussions forbidde…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:00 PM
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And do you think that men who struggle with dating and are desperate but unable to find any partners are predominantly over 40 or younger?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 07:22 PM
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Makes sense. Thanks for the input.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 01:07 PM
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The percentage of people who are neither of these things is quite low Why do you think that is the case? Is it because most women are fat? or desperate, or slutty? or something else? especially since men here think not being a virgin = slutty. They're probably more traditional leaning/religious guys. I thought that women who actively participated in hook up culture were believed to be slutty. If we go by this definition, do you still think most women would fall under one of these criteria? - "fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:26 PM
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exactly. Probably every time someone in her league shows interest she's like "how dare you peasant feel entitled to a plain girlie princess like me?"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:38 AM
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But that's the base of your premise, is it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:28 AM
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So... the majority of women are fat, desperate, slutty, gold digging single mothers? And anyone who isn't any of that becomes a "top percent" woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:20 AM
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Exactly. Never have I ever come across a woman who prefers and actually goes after short/chubby/balding guys/guys with a non heavy voice etc. They just tolerate these at best as long as there are some other non physical qualities that they like more in the guy. But I don't see that as attraction. It's compromise plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:18 AM
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Can't go after Chad if she can't see him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:13 AM
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Because the accusations of pedophilia based on prefered physical grooming in a partner is a tool exclusively used by women to shame men for the preferences they have in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:12 AM
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Yes, It's automated alright. I got that 3 day ban withing 2 minutes of making a comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:25 PM
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Yes, I guess it's hard for people to give straightforward answers in a debate sub without resorting to whataboutery, sarcasm, strawmen etc. But your question seemed sincere, so I tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:24 PM
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Nope. My mind has been internally peaceful for a long time now. It's like a quiet ocean which sometimes gets waves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:36 PM
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here's the thing, nothing grinds my gear and i mean NOTHING more than when a male romantic interest is TOO emotionally intelligent. i hate that even more than i hate average men. that says something. Why do you hate average men? And why do you think male romantic interests can't be emotionally intelligent? EQ is not gendered yk. And if the male variability is a universal fact then the most and the least emotionally intelligent people must be guys. no male is like that. they're full of insecurity…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:33 PM
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I'm an atheist but I'd say you need Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:24 PM
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god forbid a man has hobbies
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:22 PM
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nasty little hobbitses
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:18 PM
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Because your intentions may be good but comments such as telling men to be good bfs carries other political, sexist connotations. It's like a guy telling women to smile more. He might have a good intent but women would take it negatively.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:17 PM
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they ban you for smallest of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:14 PM
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In a world with mass media, social media, smart phones, and dating apps There exist men who still prefer short women, tall women, skinny women, chubby women, smooth women, hairy women or any other iteration of female body that exists. For every kind of woman that exists, there will be some guys who actively prefer them. Not so much for men though. it’s safe to assume that almost everyone who has a partner, settled below their preferences. idk, most men can still get it up for their partners, so …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:48 PM
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A major part of masculinity is being able to have sex. Some would say a major part of masculinity is being able to fight. Many would say a major part of masculinity is being able to grow a beard. Others would say that a major part of masculinity is the ability to earn (provide). So why should "can have sex" be used as a threshold instead of "earns money" or "grows a beard"? missing a core part of masculinity. That's what you believe. Monks would disagree. Almost all religious people would disagr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 10:30 AM
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You just seem to expect it to be in the exact same way that you are to women and that’s not how it works. It does work that way for some women. And they are the ones that matter. Why would that happen if I were not attracted to him? That's not for me to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 08:00 PM
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I do experience sexual attraction to some women on sight. But not men. That kind of ends the discussion then. Thanks for contributing. If you're not attracted to men then you're not attracted to men. Plain and simple. There's no shame in aknowledging that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:21 PM
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He is bisexual. Then discussions about him are irrelevant to the straight dating contexts. We do not experience attraction like men. I'd be cautious against generalizing the whole genders. It's called sexism. Most men are not much to look at. Have you wondered if you may not be straight yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:14 PM
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Then why would you expect a woman to initiate with a man she is not yet sexually drawn to? I don't. I expect women to initiate with a man she's sexually drawn to. Which they do if the man is hot enough. My attraction to men doesn't matter. Because the discussion is not about you. It is about women as a whole. I did not think of him in any kind of sexual context. I actually thought he was gay. So fortunate of him to end up with someone who thinks of him this way <3 Ok sorry you say that women use…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:36 PM
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I don’t experience attraction to men that way Good for you I guess? I didn't ask. You can’t will yourself to be sexually attracted to someone if you aren’t Never said you could or should. There are many ways a man can tilt the odds in his favor despite not being one of the ones that some women find attractive on sight. You mean many ways to convince someone who's not attracted to them into tolerating their presence lol. But I guess you would rather whine about it being unfair. Please point out w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:18 PM
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No. I believe that women are fully capable of being attracted to a man by the mere sight of him. The man just has to be hot enough - with is not very common. You can find multiple accounts of actually attractive guys sharing their experience of how often women try hard to interact with them and express interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 05:08 PM
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Not seeking out casual sex IS the lack of enthusiasm in it. That's what I meant. Sorry if it didn't read that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 02:25 PM
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where they justify lack of enthusiasm in casual sex by "responsive desire". This is what I said. Not being able to be turned on during a hook up is a different thing. No seeking out hook ups as frequently as men do because "responsive desire" is a separate thing - this is what I addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 12:53 PM
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If a guy fails to turn me on during a hook up then that’s a skill issue, and believe me, it has happened a hell of a lot. Especially with straight men. Unrelated to whatever I said. I am with him like 90% because of his sexual abilities and level of desire, and 10% because he simps for me hard. Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:37 AM
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1 - Sex and rape are not the same thing. Sex means being chosen due to your masculinity and attraction as a man. So the rich guys who get wives because of their financial stability get sex, but as per you they're still not "men" because they were not chosen for their masculinity and attraction? What about all the mid guys who eventually get settled for and manage to find wives? 2- I’d say the monk is a male but not a man. I think that’s how he’d want it too. Idk man, there were many monks in his…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 10:32 AM
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So, a 10 y.o. kid who had been r*ped by his teacher is a man because he had sex? What about a monk who took vows of celibacy early in life? Would he never qualify as a man then? And idk, calling Sir Isaac newton a "boy" seems quite inappropriate. He accomplished far more than most other "men" could dream of. And if you answered "no" to the above examples, then there are just far too many exceptions to your rule to be accepted as a fair criteria for qualifying men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 10:43 PM
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pointlessly gendered question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:08 PM
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There is a difference in the sense that you can tell apart a 5 year boy from a 25 year old man. But you can't point out at what moment he stopped being a boy and started being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:22 PM
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Same. I'd rather not play a game that's rigged against me. Either I get to choose from among many women or I stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:14 PM
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Power in Dating, not in Relationship. An established relationship (hopefully) balances all the power.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:11 PM
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Addison Mary Rey
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:09 PM
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I just wish they experienced it in a 24 hour cycle like we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:08 PM
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I want to find crazy bitches to fuck but I get none when I mention this on my dating profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:06 PM
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What risks do men most commonly overlook? The physical risks of dating in third world countries, eastern/middle eastern conservative societies. The medical risk of contracting STDs through frequent random hook ups. The risk of violent outbursts in drunken interactions like clubs or bars. In what situations does attraction clearly dominate anyway? In online-only interactions, In sober social interactions like day-time socialization, In developed/civilized countries or in the west in general. In p…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 05:53 PM
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I think it's really weak sauce in todays day and age to act like there's no way broach the topic of this sort of non-risky and frankly low effort kink stuff in a fun and playful way early in a sexual relationship. True. Technically it shouldn't be hard to go "hey I'm into this stuff. Wanna maybe try it out sometime?" But personally I prefer partners who are already into the same kinks and are experienced in the things I'm into, especially because my interests are not so "non sexual". And that ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 12:37 PM
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That so happens to tickle your brain. This is the important part. Yes you can find a regular lady partner and do her chores and give her foot massages and stuff, but does she know that it tickles your brain? That you get some kind of sexual excitement from it? As per my understanding, most women would find it weird and "icky" amd would tend to stay away from such men. Which is why some women come to terms with it, think to themselves "why not?" and then start charging men for it. Not my area of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 10:35 AM
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women: you're so cute and smol and adorable i just wanna peg you idt anyone would NOT take that as a compliment. Unless the women are saying it to mock/humiliate him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 09:37 AM
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Like a woman get to do all the work and then some guy gets a cut because… why? Because the pimp is tge contractor. You know how contractors work, right? They get a cut because the organize the human resource, manage it, assign it to the customers/shifts etc. Works the same way in other professions, why not in sex work? Porn being absolutely free never sat right with me It's like music. Yes a musician can sell his records and tickets to his concerts to make money. But once that music gets on radi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 09:34 AM
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Eps when there is a lack of foundational connection, a man wanting a woman to fulfill a role for him isn't the same thing as a woman herself being desired and admired. I don't think women would agree to play along with some guy if they lacked the foundational connection, or any type of connection they want. Especially since they'd have plenty of options to choose from. In the end, it's the woman who's in power no matter what role she chooses to play imo. I don't understand why those guys can't j…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 09:18 AM
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All lines you draw between a boy and a man will be arbitrary.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 09:11 AM
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I don't think it ends up like that too often just because male and female sexuality is different and men can simply get more out these dynamics typically. Both physically and mentally, because their actual body parts are involved and they have a more visual sexuality. Physically yes, I can agree. It is much easier for a man to derive pleasure through such interactions than it is for a woman. But I'm not sure it would be so imbalanced mentally as well. Mentally women get to be the object of desir…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:52 PM
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I'm a left-leaning centrist and I don't think the state should pay for child support. I think the state should pay for abortion and to encourage abortion wherever possible. Only in the unfortumate case that the child is born because no other alternatives were possible, then the state should pay for the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:19 PM
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Being born with a penis makes you a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:16 PM
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Yeah, so my understanding is 'femdom' as desired by men and women are very different things. That's somewhat true, but even after accounting for both types of femdom, the women who are into that dynamic are way fewer as a whole. Most "sub" men are seeking sexual submission from women by another name. The sex is still primarily focused on the woman providing the male pleasure/release, just through "dominate" acts that physically or otherwise place them in the typical role of the man. (and perhaps…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 05:12 PM
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Because comparing this person to someone who has other deemed positive traits where this guy lacks, while lacking the deemed positive traits where this guy fares well cannot give any basis to compare the two traits. These 2 guys are diagonally oppsite on the graph. No sitting on the same scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:03 PM
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But it's not known as "maledom" is it? It's the default that must be distinguished from. Men being doms is not in of itself a power play between gendered dynamics. It's extreme but normative in the hierarchy of the dynamics. A man is in control and a woman is submitting to his desires. There's a reason a lot of s/d relationships cosplay as trad. That's true. Maledom isn't really any challenge to the norms or gender dynamics. It's just what's seen as "normal" taken to extremes. So I guess it make…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 12:37 PM
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makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 12:27 PM
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Sometimes a man looks gorgeous, but becomes repulsive once they open their mouth and the verbal bile goes out. Sometimes a man is "meh", but you get smitten once they open their mouth and the eloquence flows. Then this comparison is prententious and misleading. A man that looks good and talks bad cannkt be compared to a man that looks bad and talks good. A man that looks bad and talks good must be compared to either a man that looks good AND talks good or a man that looks bad and talks bad. No s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 12:26 PM
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because if she did lose it she wouldn't be interested. same way if you were handsome or tall we wouldn't be even having this conversation. Which is why the choices fat women and short men make are the choices made out of desperation. If they chose their partners as if they were "lean" or "tall" or any other criteria that made them more desirable, they'd go after physically attractive partners themselves. And therefore that preference for hot girls/guys is the only genuine preference because it c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:04 AM
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A man that's "meh" who speaks eloquently will still be outshined by the man that's gorgeous and speaks eloquently.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:59 AM
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I hope brain counts lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:57 AM
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Q4A: what is your type looks wise which you tend to gravitate towards?? A balanced, either oval or round face shape, with a lean jawline and slender nose. full brows and wise eyes. Definitely leaner than me and lighter in skin than me. Bonus points if she's taller than me, more muscular than me, has blonde/red hair and green/blue eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:55 AM
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BDSM/Femdom doesn't really challenge gender norms. Finding breaking social norms sexy isn't the same thing as challenging them. Ah, sorry. I should've written "gender roles" here. Which femdom definitely challenges. If anything, it makes sense women seeking men for this want an ideal of masculine men, because the power play is between gendered dynamics. idk, I've seen men being much more forgiving of a woman not being "ideal feminine woman" when seeking such power play. In fact from personal exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:48 AM
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true
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:41 AM
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Welcome back! Thank you! Let's not give them god complexes (or enable the god complexes they may already have.) Lol it was within a minute of me making comment that it happened. They were surprisingly quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:40 AM
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I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:40 AM
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The kink must not be so much about attraction to submissiveness, but about the fact of a high value man submitting to her. That seems to be largely true. Their desire to dominate doesn't come from the man being the object of attraction, but from the idea of BEING the object of attraction and desire to a highly attractive man who willfully submits. It's more about ego and passivity than a genuine want to actively dominate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:38 AM
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cool
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:35 AM
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Why do fat women often not like fat men much when using online dating, making it so fat men get extremely few matches with not much enthusiasm, even though healthy guys tend to notice they have no problem getting fat women? Yep. The fat women just call themselves "curvy" or "thicc" and go on to state their preferences of how many abs and how many inches they want. Not that they're wrong for doing so but it still says a lot about their chadsexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:14 AM
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I know enough about cooking. I just don't come from a meat-eating background.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:11 AM
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I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 03:10 AM
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realised it a couple years ago. I might be aromantic heterosexual. Boy am I gonna have fun explaining this to the folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 02:11 AM
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Is it really cooked? I'm no expert in steak-cooking but the insides of sir loin looks like he's lively enough to knight another 2 boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 02:10 AM
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or is it simply that you just so happen to prefer physical features that are much more present in a specific race and therefore you just so happen to be much more attracted to that race as a natural result? This, I believe. I just happen to prefer light eyes and hair colours. Anything other than brown and black tbh. And that's usually exclusively found among white folks. Also a specific kind of facial structure, but that one isn't limited to one ethnicity. ETA: Seconding what u/Zabadoodude said …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 02:06 AM
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Would you see a mid white woman as hotter than a 9/10 Indian woman? Absolutely not. I have eyes lol. Also stop gooning to porn so much. Haven't used it since I was in high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 02:02 AM
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Do you need them to be white in order to be sexually aroused? Do you want them to avoid the sun to become paler? No and no. I can be sexually aroused by a variety of aesthetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 02:00 AM
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Guess who's back after being tempbanned for 3 days by reddit gods.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:58 AM
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Was scrolling through all the "f4m" posts on subs like dirtyr4r, bdsmpersonals and femdompersonals and holyshit literally every woman on there is like "I want someone who is fit/sporty/muscular". Like there are no dommes who prefer chubby guys lol. So even in dynamics that challenge gender norms, the guy has to fit the same narrow definition of masculinity/attractiveness - lean or muscular. That's it. Makes you wonder if the women who end up with non-lean, non-muscular guys do so because they do…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:57 AM
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fetishes can be borne out of culture though. Just like in the example you gave. Also I feel conflicted because most of those Indian men mindlessly drool over white features because that's what the culture has taught them. But they are perfectly capable of being attracted to indian women who are just as (un)attractive as them. They're unaware of this phenomenon happening inside their mind. I, on the other hand, cannot forget this hierarchy of attractiveness that is established in my view, even if…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:30 PM
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i have no idea about what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 10:22 PM
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I'd say provide enough rest and fuel to the body and let it fight that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:27 PM
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Is it fetishism if I see features of one particular ethnicity as the prettiest and prefer them over others, even my own? I feel like it'd be unfair to myself if I ended up with someone from my ethnicity/culture and disrespectful to her because I'd know that I don't see her as the "prettiest". But I also know that the ethnicity I prefer isn't too crazy about mine and I'd probably never find a woman of that ethnicity who's into me due to different beauty standards and language barrier.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:26 PM
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Keep up your NoFap streak lil bro. I'm sure you'll become a supersigma chad. Tell us when you save enough sexual energy and become capable of telepathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 09:42 PM
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Did I, anywhere, mention guys doing jumping jacks for women's attention? Or is making up strawmen and fighting them your favourite hobby?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 09:05 PM
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The one where the guy says entertaining someone with a goldfish attention span Anyone who is inundated with attention from multiple suitors trying to impress them will have the attention span of a goldfish due to simple logistics. That says nothing about their intelligence. If you read that and got offended for "being called dumb" that says something about you. Clearly women like that are just not into someone and the guy isn't picking up on it Sure we can go with that logic. And that would impl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:57 PM
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Where did I say that all women have goldfish minds? and then you expect women to treat you nicely? Where did I say that women should treat me nicely? There's a difference between "being nice" and a good faith argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 07:06 PM
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let them be. They never argue in good faith here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:58 PM
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that's stuff you have to do to get women who don't like you No, that's the stuff you have to do as a normie man to get a normie woman with options.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:54 PM
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comment is saying its cuz she is a dumb goldfish level intelligence of a woman who can't stay focused Which comment said anything about their intelligence? maybe yall are the dumb ones being able to tell that a woman who keeps sayi g one word answers Way to get offended on someone else's behalf lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:52 PM
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you don't have to do an extra effort. You do if you're a guy trying to date women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:45 PM
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you don't see how saying that women have goldfish-like attention is misogynistic? Yes, I don't see how calling out women on something they do is the same as hating all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 05:42 PM
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then she's not really attracted to you yet. When you are saying "goldfish like attention" I'm picturing a desperate guy trying anything to keep her attention. That's what happens when a normie guy is in the phase of building that attraction or "courting" as the old people call it. Just the reality when every woman has tons of guys vying for her attention. You don't catch her attention, she looks away. When actually if there's attraction she's going to be paying attention even if you are doing li…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:59 PM
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What aspect of dating and attraction do guys incorrectly put too much emphasis on when in reality women don't really care about? Being nice/funny, having actual interests/passions, all the other values that bring depth to character. Men think that because they value such things in themselves and other men, the women would also value the same things in them - which is wrong. Specifically in dating, superficial, more showy stuff matters more. Do you look hot? Do you "dominate" the scene with your …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 04:37 PM
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You're making 2 mistakes here. Saturn decided that, to avoid being overthrown by his son, getting rid of him entirely solved that. So... he ate him. Saturn was cursed by his father Uranus (sky daddy) to be overthrown by his own son. So it wasn't fear. It was an attempt to overturn a predecided outcome, like breaking a clock so that it doesn't turn 12. This predetermined fate doesn't apply to human condition, where actions can in fact change the outcomes and no one makes definitive statements abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:10 AM
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idk what you're talking about. All I saw was a man and a woman shouting at each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:33 PM
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may such love never find me. Amen
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:14 PM
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There are men who cook, clean and do chores for women, carry their shopping bags and then get abused by those women and pay for it all out of their own pockets. As long as such men exist in the world there is no way in hell you as a man will be "able to treat women like objects" unless you also pay the woman to take that kind of treatment. Objectification, power dynamics, patriarchy, feminism are temporary. Money flowing from man to woman is permanent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 08:11 PM
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Why one? I'll tell you three: Tits, ass and face bring glee.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 10:12 AM
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Where am I complaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:36 PM
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Stop buying food for women you aren't having sex with and this problem will disappear Thanks for your valuable insight, mr obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:06 PM
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Dating is like real estate Women be turning into Genghis Khan now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:14 PM
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The thing is it's not supposed to be like that. You should like person you date enough to find a pleasure in their company. You should like them enough to actually want to spend time with them. We can talk about that when women start to predominantly approach men, get rejected on the face, spend time, effort amd money to plan and pay for most dates and then get ghosted or used for foodie calls. We can talk about that when men become as entitled to princess treatment 💅 as women are and start expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:08 PM
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I wonder why… Because those who don't take up that profession are too afraid of the social stigma.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:01 AM
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Well well well If it ain't a fellow man of culture 🫱🏻‍🫲🏼
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 12:57 AM
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How do you view sex? Full HD
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 05:43 PM
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but they can say what they think, right? Why do their thoughts trigger you? Just be happy with your standards and do your thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:10 PM
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i can say what i think Then why do you complain about men saying what they think?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:44 PM
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Men are heterosexual. Women are chadsexual. Just how nature works bud. It's a feature, not a bug.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:02 PM
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"bobs and ars" lol OP are you sure you didn't stumble upon a closeted indian lesbian ? As for the other stuff, it's mostly true. Male bodies are seen as neutral at best and disgusting at worst. That's why "feeling sexy in my own body" is an exclusively female experience. Men only feel sexy by proxy - when they are having sex with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:42 AM
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great, that'll solve purity culture lmao A lame excuse to externalize the reason for women's collective disinterest in sex. Yes, it's all happening simultaneously. There's a reason it's called "3rd wave" feminism and not "simultaneous wave" feminism. Women can and do take what they actually want. If they actually had a sex drive and wished to express it then they would've TOOK that right long ago, not in the 80s. But they didn't. Their sexuality is not as much of a DRIVE as it is a passive, luke…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 09:28 PM
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The day we are treated equally (no more ncounts posts) You can talk to the mods and stop these pointless ncounts post tomorrow if you want lol. Still wouldn't change the fact that there are significant differences in male and female sex drives. 100% everything happened simultaneously. Could've googled before replying lol. Sex positivity came in the 3rd wave feminism. So much much later than the other demands. Feminism is fighting against slutshaming but you guys still won't shut up about it lol …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:20 PM
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They all happened at the same time. Are you sure that sex positivity was part of the same feminist wave as women's working and education rights? Society still tries to repress women (proof is all the ncounts posts) I don't think general society cares that much about ncounts or virginity of women (except for some terminally online redditors or extremely religious prudes) any more than they care about men's virginity. so we still don't know how much lower women's sex drive really is We know it tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:09 PM
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Society also discouraged women to pursue higher education and careers though. They fought tooth and nail and pursued them anyway. Because they really, genuinely wanted to get educated and make careers. Why didn't they have as much motivation to pursue their sexual desires and express their sex drives? Why did mere "slutshaming" successfully shut them up for so long? Maybe because they don't have as strong of a sex drive. Maybe because getting sex is not as important to them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:21 PM
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Still doesn't negate the fact that men's sexuality was also repressed. They still went against that repression and expressed it anyway. But women didn't feel the need to do so (until very recently after all other kinds of gender roles had been broken)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:18 PM
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never had anyone stopping them. Elders of the family? Priests who dictate lifestyle? Moral police? Bouncers at clubs? Security at public places? Teachers/professors at educational institutions?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:43 PM
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Rejection is hot ew
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:38 PM
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let's not mutilate little kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:59 AM
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I as a guy in mid 20s like older women because they're more mature, more experienced and large age gaps are hot. When I'll be older I'll probably go after women in their early 20s because they'll be younger and prettier and large age gaps are hot. Idc about "trophy" wives or gfs. I just like contrasts. Contrast in age, contrast in height, contrast in skin colour, contrast in physical strength. And these contrasts could go either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:59 PM
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because men in the west are the top tier of men? Kind of, yes. Women want men who are socio-economically better than them, "higher" than them. A woman of a first world country going for a third world man will most likely be a downgrade. Like they could find younger, hotter men in India lmao Whats the reason? There's a fundamental difference in what men want but can't have and what women want but can't have. Men want hot young women to have sex and sometimes commit to them. If they can't find it …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:39 PM
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yup. I hear "disabled" and I always imagine missing limbs or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 10:29 PM
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For example women have always been discouraged to show sexual desire Socio-cultural factors also discourage men to express their sexual desires, framing it as immoral or predatory or sinful. It didn't seem to stop men from expressing it anyways. Do you know why? Because their sex drive was stronger than any religious or cultural conditioning. If women don't overcome their cultural conditioning in favour of sexual expression, it just means they're intrinsically less inclined to do so. If you meas…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 08:23 PM
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I'm saying testosterone isn't the one and only factor. it's still the biggest.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 06:51 PM
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exhibit A. yes, female bodies are more sensitive to testosterone which means that they can react more to a lower quanitity of it. But that's precisely because they are not adapted to higher quantities of it. And that's why they don't experience a strong, more frequent sex drive that male bodies do. Now if you pump a teeny bit of test into a regular woman she'd feel the effect sure. But it's rare to occur naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 06:50 PM
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it tends to be more "just admit you have bad standards and don't waste my time". lol true. That's how complaints from women are usually worded. This bait would be more believable if it were framed this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:43 PM
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Now it makes sense lol. Yep, I fell for this bait. You guys just really believe anything even if it makes no zilch of sense It was a good bait if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:19 PM
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makes sense. it could be a LARPer. and if it is then it's a damn good bait because I wasted a lot of time on this post lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:16 PM
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idk what dona handful of unhappy deadbedroom women prove against billions of women clearly having lower sex drives than men. women’s levels of testosterone naturally varies by quite a bit on an individual level Yes, but it still doesn't reach anywhere near the level of testosterone in a male body, if that's what you're implying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:19 PM
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Edit to add: the account has all prior posts and comments hidden. Really a common move for a troll who doesn’t want people to notice their past posts contradict the current narrative. Makes sense The part that really tees it off is this insistence that ALL of the women in her program, every single one of them, is single and sad and alone and cannot get a man while every one of the men is eagerly settling down for marriage with a dental hygienist. It doesn't have to be all true though. Yes, there…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:16 PM
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More like women cannot accurately imagine what the male sex drive is like. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to understand what a higher sex drive looks like when you can see men "chase" sex at such universal scales and compulsive frequencies. If you see a person visibly starving and desperate for any kind of food at all, and you compare it to yourself who only wants to eat a particular burger from a particular spot - and claim that both you and the other guy are equally hungry - then it's no…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:10 PM
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Those pressures apply on women too yet somehow they manage to do their homework. Oh yes. more handwaving and dismissal. They do not have more opportunities They do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:24 PM
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You underestimate deranged women's ability to tolerate academic stress. incel fever dream caricature of "a woman" Caricatures are often inspired by real people. And this is one of those very real women and yet you refuse to acknowledge that. What kind of ego are you trying to protect by this no-true-scotsman fallacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:02 PM
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Men want to be worshipped but aren't worth it from the perspective of high achieving women Seems to be the other way around in this rant. A mediocre woman is whining that educated men with good careers are not bending over backwards to give her the worship she feels entitled to. I have more degrees than men I know worth a single one of my degrees. I'm sure you do babe.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:56 PM
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Because I have never seen it A bias then. Coming from a circle where I meet and interact with highly educated women and men, I have met my fair share of women who are in STEM and medical fields and are still miserable people with entitlement. Level of education doesn't filter for character, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:52 PM
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It's hilarious that you think that the education system "hasn't changed much" in the last multiple hundred years. Have you not heard of diversity quotas? or scholarships specifically rewarded to female candidates? Have you not seen the researches proving that boys in middle schools are at a significant risk of being misdiagnosed for "ADHD" and medicated to make them more "docile"? Are you unaware of the immense pressure the parents, society and families put on men by expecting them to start earn…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:48 PM
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idk. You'd have to ask the redpillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:42 PM
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Why is it so unbelievable that a woman could be this much entitled? I think you automatically assuming that it's not a woman is your bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:41 PM
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Good that you're there to call them out over it then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:07 PM
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idk. Still sounds like they're not very self-aware when it comes to this. And it makes it difficult to have a meaningful discussion when they're arguing to protect their ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:37 PM
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I think those women are just being reactive and defensive in a “I can do anything a man can do” way. And they want to emphasize “I love sex” but what they keep missing is “I love sex… when I want it.” Seems counterproductive and bad faith argument when one wants to have an actual discussion, no? Tbh I’ve seen men argue that this isn’t true too. Not just women. I personally never encountered men here who say this. But yes, a handful of them would be there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:31 PM
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women have less testosterone, therefore less sexual desire and less arousal than men. Happy to see women make sense here. Everytime I mention this I have a bunch of women trying to explain how "less testosterone doesn't mean less sexual desire" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:22 PM
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Wow. This is such a narcissistic and un-self aware rant. Although my expectations of women here weren't that high, this one surprisingly reached a new low lol. although normally I'd say this is a good thing having lots of women in high places Why is it a good thing to have fewer men in high places? Is gender based discrimination a good thing? Are the systematic problems that stop men from pursuing career in madicine a good thing? Is the only way that something can be a "good thing" for women tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:17 PM
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If I were a woman I'd be out of my league and would date chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:13 PM
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based
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:53 PM
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People who argue, complain and demand are still at the stage where they externalize their suffering and demand the world to change for them. They put their locus of control outside of themselves instead of inside. Once they start introspecting, they'd stop complaining (which most women .... or men...never do). Once they realise that it's not the world that needs to be fixed, once they learn to accept the world as it is, they'd be at peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:51 PM
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Because only losers pay for sex. "losers" didn't realise I was talking to kids on this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 03:22 PM
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meh. Conventionally attractive men are a limited resource you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:40 AM
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think a lot of men are emotional vampires sucking the life out of the woman they are with. Good thing you're wrong then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:37 AM
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It's no assumption. If the man is a normie, the woman likely settled for him for ulterior motives and he is ignorant of that fact (either willfully or unknowingly) and is therefore genuinely happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:37 AM
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I'm a guy and I never understood the appeal of feet. Why would someone be into it? The most sexual thing I can think of is making someone worship your feet as a way to humiliate them. But that's about it. It's more power dynamic than "sexy". Plus, women into feet don't exist, so it's specifically a male fetish. But then I found out that some women are into male hands, which is equally weird. But it doesn't contain that humiliation element that feet do. I wish it did lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:00 AM
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Nothing short of a sugardaddy would benefit a woman if you think about it. If women actually starting looking for arrangements that benefitted them, all would become sugar babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:56 AM
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how is it asymmetrical when the woman is also getting consistent casual sex that costs them nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:55 AM
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Especially when conventinally attractive men are so easy. Unlike women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:51 AM
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seems racist but I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:50 AM
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Misogyny is like the natural outcome of understanding women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:50 AM
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"If you want to be happy, living a king's life, Never make a pretty women your wife." - Soldier boy But from a logical point of view, I wouldn't date someone I'm not physically attracted to. That would be unfair to myself and disrespectful to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:48 AM
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It's not the literal penis they are jealous of. It's the maleness it represents. Like the ability to sit peacefully without thinking anything, or the ability to form strong and meaningful friendships without all the drama, or the physical strength that comes naturally to the male body, or the utalitarian value a male body is given without aesthetic critique. That's what Freud meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:46 AM
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What in the world. Women can be dominant without a penis. And yet dommes are rare as unicorns.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:43 AM
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Like imagine believing that someone is incapable of feelings because "too much sex". Isn't it the same excuse that women use to reject men who visit prositutes?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:40 AM
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manosphere men are gay sure bub.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:37 AM
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The women who come here mostly do so for shitting on men, not to have a meaningful discourse. Talking to a woman here or taking their words seriously is like trying to kiss a snake.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:35 AM
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i was basically rage baited the whole time by some average male nerd getting his born sexy yesterday fantasy he didn't deserve. Why were you enraged at a man being happy though?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:30 AM
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If her beauty had no effect on me why would I even approach her?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 02:21 AM
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We are going in circles because you are refusing to answer straightforward questions. Choosing to parrot your own words to avoid being wrong. Hope this helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:48 PM
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My comment says, that women seek men they are attracted to. Are women attracted to ugly guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:45 PM
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Hundreds? Y'all are so dramatic. Didn't see you point it out in my comment up in the thread. Why now? Ran out of answers? because they disagree with you. It must mean that they are unwell. Nope. Healthy people in their senses disagree with me all the time. But the way you assert "women don't go after hottest guys" and flip to "of course they pick the hottest guys out of the bunch DUH!" makes me wonder if women on this sub are sane.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:03 PM
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I was wondering the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 09:59 PM
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So they get hundreds of "ugly" men interested in casual sex with them. Then they filter out the hottest ones from among them because they "wanna have sex with men they're attracted to obviously". But they're not "fucking the hottest men possible"? Have you taken your meds today?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:45 PM
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behold. The wind troll is back again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:07 PM
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I don't think women are interested in fucking men they aren't attracted to. So they ARE fucking hot guys then? A group of ugly men is more like having the pick of trash. 🤷 So she filters out hot guys from the uglies and fucks them. Yes. Then what are you bullshitting about?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 08:04 PM
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Casual sex irks men because they assume that women are fucking the hottest men possible. Are women casually fucking ugly guys then? And assume that women do the same. Quite the opposite. 80% of men women see are NOT found attractive by them. 99% of men's looks based ire would be solved if they stopped assuming that women acted the same as them. No one is dumb enough to assume that women act the same as men, except for some inexperienced teenagers maybe. Women don't act the same because they don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:38 PM
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Should I also start splitting logs with my bare hands while I'm at it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:29 PM
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T _ T
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:28 PM
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Men are biologically privileged and should stop whining Here's my uncounterable counter-argument: I don't care. And just like you don't care about men's issues and dismiss them as "whining". I and other men like me are free to do just that with all the bs "issues" you listed. Who cares? What matters to a man not getting laid is that he is not getting laid. That IS a big deal for him and he will post it on reddit, look for solutions and you can go cry in the corner about your mUh pErIodS.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 07:27 PM
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That person did specify that they are not blaming women for "too high standards". They are just blaming them for lying and hypocricy. for still acting like men are the shallow ones and your constant moral grandstanding that you don't care about looks. In short: not for the shallowness, but the hypocrisy, lying and gaslighting. You see it as hate because you constantly hurl that accusation at men angrily.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:46 AM
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Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 10:32 AM
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For what it’s worth I cut 18 pounds in about 3 months a few months ago Great for you man! I'm happy for you. Is four months that long in the grand scheme of things. It's not, but losing excess fat will not be enough. I'll have to gain muscle after that. Which will take another half year at least. I want tinder matches NOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:13 AM
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How overweight are you like 10 kgs So it would take me atleast 3-4 months to lose those 10 kilos sustainably.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:49 AM
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pole & hole. I wish it were that easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:33 PM
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And I am asserting that there is no pattern to be criticized. Do you think men are a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:01 PM
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natty only.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:57 PM
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Not asking for a 5 year plan, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:55 PM
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I don't see generalisations about women being "treated as legitimate" here. In fact, I see both men and women call out those broad generalisation often, and rightfully so. There is no asymmetry.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:51 PM
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How do fat/chubby/non-atheletic guys take "sexy" pics for tinder or fetlife? Like the male equivalent of a bikini pic or simple clevage pic or stuff like that - when you don't have defined chest or shoulders or arms etc? Like there are so many tutorials on "how to dress sexy for your wife" but what if I want to look sexy for random, unknown women who are just swiping on apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:45 PM
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Where did I say that men are allowed to treat women as a monolith? Please point to that comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:38 PM
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The reason there's so many denominations of Christianity is because people debated. Wrong. The reason there are so many denominations is because it tried to became a universal religion and got split up due to geography. There's a latin flavour (Catholic), a greek flavour (Orthodox), a germanic flavour (Protestant) and so forth. lmao what even is this take? You'd need to see religion for what it is to understand this take.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:37 PM
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He'll just be called names on PPD. As long as he is happy 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:33 PM
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So planning a date is sacrificing his dignity? Paying for a date is sacrificing his dignity? Or is planning a date being a jester? Doing all that before she shows her willingness to do the same for him IS being a jester, yes. Does she plan dates for them? Does she pay for the dates? If yes then it's a reciprocal interest. If I like a man I want to do things with him. You are free to do all the things you want with him. No one is stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 09:21 PM
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It's not "treating her worse". It's your female entitlement that you see jumping through hoops as "better treatment" or a "reward" that women get. Not being a dance monkey is just a boundary a man puts up because he has self respect. And if a woman really likes him and appreciates his company, she wouldn't expect him to scrifice his dignity by being her jester. "Entertain me peasant" is the attitude of a shallow woman who doesn't respect a man. She wants to extract, take and not give. If you as …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:54 PM
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Can you point us to that "same angry group of men" that is making both of these complaints simultaneously? Or do you enjoy getting angry at imaginary scenarios as a hobby?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:50 PM
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I do not see being penetrated as inherently submissive or dominant. You don't know any other information about the dynamics or behaviours for reference. The only information you have is the man getting pegged by a woman. Why kind of dynamics would you infer from that single act? Why would you use this in a scenario where you think something positive and non-violent. is happening to a person (sex). idk. I personally don't use such terminology for sex. But I guess straight sex is generally seen as…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:49 PM
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Not really. There is a significant section of men who are "chubby chasers", even fit/atheletic gym bros who prefer fatter women. I hardly ever see or hear about a fit gym girlie with a fat dude. Also there are no "short king fans" among women. So I don't think fat women are looksmatch for short guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:21 PM
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I think you're conflating two different groups of men. We're not a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:17 PM
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(1) When you are having sex with someone False. Next question (2) Do you see receiving penetration as submissive? If yes why? Nope, especially since power bottoms are a thing. I'd like to answer this with a question, do YOU see men who get pegged as submissive or dominant? (3) Do you feel like your partners are not enjoying sex and only allowing it for your sake? As long as she initiates and is actively participating, she's enjoying. (4) If you share the perspectives I described, where do you th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:06 PM
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Without a doubt, traits that are fetishised in men (like height, muscularity, v-taper, sharp jawlines, heavy voices, blue eyes and related phenotypical features etc) raise an individual's chances of getting casual sex if he possesses these traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:57 PM
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...and other lies
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:54 PM
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That's such a big unspoken double standard lol. The treatment they want as "bare minimum" is tagged as "entitlement for worship" when a man expects it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:02 PM
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I hope you extend this reaction to men who do actually use it as victim blaming or in completely ridiculous situations at all. I do. It's dumb to blame the victims and it deserves to be called out. And then again, we don't discuss it as if you are in this relationship. Makes sense. "vet better" can be advised before someone gets into a relationship, but not to someone who's already in one.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 12:24 PM
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Secundo ✅️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:26 AM
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That is because it IS the same as telling an abuse survivor to "Vet better". No one is dumb enough to willfully walk into an abusive relationship. Similarly no man is dumb enough to willfully choose to be with a woman who doesn't desire him. It's just way later in the relationship that a man realises that he has been used and not been desired. They vet, but vetting isn't foolproof, and users and abusers still exist. Why not pul the blame where it belongs?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:14 AM
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I don't think all men share your priorities. Yes I know, men are socially programmed to be desperate and base their lives around any kind of female validation. But they would reach similar conclusions if they were more self aware. Vet better. That could be said to the domestic abuse victims as well, but it would be tagged as Victim Blaming - and rightfully so.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 11:05 AM
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That's a different set of complaints, a set that still exists now. But the ones I mentioned would die out. I personally think it's more pathetic and shameful to be settled for than to not be partnered at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:58 AM
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Natural selection is working again after enforced reproduction for ages. Oh it is still enforced by tax laws and social stigma and capitalism and what not. but yes, more (I'd say all) women should choose to stay single instead of settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:56 AM
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Yep. And there would be no more deadbedrooms or complaints from guys being used for their resources. Only if women could learn some self respect and hold out for actual hot guys instead of dishonestly settling for any rando.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:50 AM
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That would honestly solve a lot of dating and relationship issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:45 AM
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Yep, what I figured out from this experiment is that AI is unreliable for estimating our true looksmatch. Okay I swear I had the pic and it disappeared Must be a glitch. Happens sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:21 AM
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AI assumed me to be Latin American too, but I'm Indian. And this was Czech republic btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:19 AM
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I guess we'll never know.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:07 AM
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i mean he is her looksmatch tho. True.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:03 AM
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are you high tier normie? probably a low tier one. Which is why I was suspicious when AI generated this one, so I had to cross check by generating the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:01 AM
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I probably did look mid. That "probably" is carrying a lot of weight here is your story is true. Anyways good to know that you had your fill.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 02:00 AM
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idk what you're on about. I'd love to see two or more chicks fighting over me lol. May the craziest one win.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:36 AM
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That's all well and fine. But what if you still look mid? And besides all the value she sees in your words and actions, she still doesn't get excited by the thought of fucking you. She feels a familiar warmth with you but doesn't get tingles by seeing you naked, which she does when she sees an objectively attractive guy. When you know who you are and what you are about and how that add value to others. I'm not talking value addition here. I'm no accountant. I am discussing very simple, in the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:33 AM
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The one reply I can completely agree with here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:25 AM
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The one reply I could agree with here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:24 AM
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I don’t put my value in what other people think Good for you. That should be the general attitude but then, what's the point of being with a partner if you don't value what she thinks about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:23 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:20 AM
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eh, sure. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:20 AM
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There is a point in it being gendered. should your gf feel shitty she's not like the pornstars you see since you hit puberty? She wouldn't have to, because she would know that if I weren't attracted to her, I wouldn't have pursued her or try to impress her. Me being in a relationship with her would be a result of my multiple efforts which I would never put into someone if was "lukewarm" about. This is not the case for women since they don't have to pursue someone to be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:18 AM
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Is that some kind of elvish I'm too dwarven to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:20 PM
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Yes, not in that particular interaction. But there would be some other situation where a mid guy would be getting hard thinking about her. My question is aimed at that mid guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:19 PM
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low tier or not, they do get to be objects of desire from people of their prefered gender. So I'll not play the "attention from lmv doesn't count". Mid women can and do get along with partners who genuinely desire them and get hard for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:03 PM
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yes, some especially hideous women might not get it. And they make it everyone's problem by complaining about beauty standards and superficiality of the male gaze. But I'm not discussing women here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 08:00 PM
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okay I'll play along. What?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 07:58 PM
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Q4mid guys: how do you live with the fact that your partners probably don't feel the level of attraction/lust towards you that an absolutely good looking chad level guy recieves in general? Do you feel like missing out on an experience that all women and a few men get to have?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 07:04 PM
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Used my pic to prompt AI and generate a woman that would be an appropriate match for me based on statistics and dating patterns. Then removed myself from the pic and prompted it again to generate an appropriate guy for her and the guy came out to be a legit chad 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 06:56 PM
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astroturfs Rest on standing astroturf
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 06:53 PM
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Figured out the issue with myself and a lot of guys like me. I'm just a greek god trapped inside a chubby body. All that's missing is those perfect abs, toned muscles, some admiration, some worship and everything will be fine. 😌
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:13 PM
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frrrsst!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:22 AM
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Yep, only someone who hasn't seen what marriage does to a man would wanna get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:13 AM
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There was this study I read a few years ago (I don't remember which one) that showed that even bisexual women found women more attractive/preferred women but ended up dating more men, similarly bi men also preferred women more but ended up with men. That and your post point to a clear conclusion: Women are the universal objects of desire, they are the ones who attract, they are the ones that everyone wants to look at, kiss, have sex with etc. Whether it be gay women, straight women, gay men or s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:03 AM
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They were never able to take critique in the first place. Would you expect a religion to welcome you with open arms if you question their holy book or messages of their prophets? You ask questions, you become a heretic (misogynist). Never question women or their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:24 PM
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I know what I desired. And yet you are lying to yourself and to others for the sake of winning an argument. Pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:51 PM
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I desired an orgasm from an easy source. Your hand is the easiest source. You would've masturbated if an easy orgasm was what you desired. But you desired sex, which requires the involvement of another person by definition. By desiring sex you desire the person that you're having it with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:39 PM
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Hookup because they were there and I was horny. Horny is desire. You did desire the hook up. FWB because I was horny and their dick was on call. Dick is part of the person. If you desire the dick, you desire the person. Just like any other body part of his. I desired sex. Not the specific person It's the same thing. There is no "sex" without the other person. Just like there is no dance without the dancer. By desiring sex you are desiring the person. That's what the OP wants to feel - to be the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:25 PM
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You assumed that women are studying nonsense. I didn't. The majority of graduates in veterinary school, dental school, optometry school, law, and pediatrics, are currently women. Good for them. Why don't you check in what context it was said? more proof that men were always inferior to women in higher education. That's why you fell behind as soon as women gained their freedom This was the troll I was replying to. Did you bother to ask HER why she talks badly about men? Of course you didn't. I kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 09:11 PM
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So, where did I speak badly about women seeking higher education? Where did I talk about women in STEM fields or in Medicine, Law, Commerce?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 07:25 PM
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sexual utility. Doesn't exist. Unless you count sexual slavery of course. Multiple things can be true at once. People can be hypocrites, true. Sorry, I forgot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:25 PM
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It's the whole point of a hookup A hook up is a shared, mutual experience of pleasure without the added weight of attachment or social expectations. Yes, people are doing it together and benefiting There's nothing to be "gotten out of" someone then. Honestly, you have such a negative opinion of sex despite being a "retired promiscous woman".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:10 PM
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I don't. You have spoken badly about women seeking education Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:06 PM
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Yes, gay men are awesome. Sexuality is not a choice, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:05 PM
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Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:04 PM
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What bad behavior? Going to college? Do you think women going to college is bad behaviour?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:45 PM
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You said women are universally stupid and uninteresting with their books and their degrees and stuff I didn't say that. so why does it bother you if they don’t want you? Again, when did I say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:45 PM
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And I don’t consider being gay an insult. Yet you use it as such. Gay and bi men are some if the most awesome guys I know, but accusing straight men of being gay is the kind of closeted homophobia women resort to when faced with their own shortcomings.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:43 PM
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That's a double layered joke on Laughing buddha and hedonistic pleasures vs enlightenment. I don't expect you to understand that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:41 PM
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I just genuinely think a lot of men are gay. Ah yes, call a man gay when he calls out bad behaviour in women. Maybe women could learn how to be interesting and hold actual conversations, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:36 PM
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you're gay Are you a kid by any chance? You know this sub is for grown ups, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:22 PM
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They wouldn't be saying anything at all if they were happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:20 PM
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Why do they care what men call them? They already don't like them and are avoiding them, right? Seems to be a non issue and didn't answer my question. Do you "try to help unhappy women change their views so they actually find a happy life." too or do you just validate their hatred towards men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:06 PM
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Not offended actually, just disappointed. Disappointed that I was trying to argue with someone who's not even into straight men. I should've known. because you see yourself as an exception, and maybe you are Quite the opposite actually. I'm not an exception. I'm just like every other guy. Or maybe just a part of the big majority. And I read. The men I know read, the men I barely interact with also read and are men of substance. So the likes of you claiming that men are dumb was shocking. But the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:03 PM
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Ah. I did find it weird when you mentioned cishet men or cis men repeatedly when it was obvious that we were discussing actual straight men. But he’s not a cishet man lol. So you found someone from LGBTQIA+ community. Good for you but he's not the man we are discussing, so you didn't prove anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:50 AM
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Nope. If you think all women are stupid and hopeless, you don’t like women. Do you tell the same thing to women who constantly talk about men being dumb and annoying and threatening? Do you "try to help unhappy women change their views so they actually find a happy life." too or do you just validate their hatred towards men? In real life, I don’t talk to men like you. I have a husband who loves me and friends who value me. Idc. But good for you I guess. I too have women in life who love having m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:47 AM
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But good luck finding a man who reads. Finding one who has hobbies outside of “chilling” and “going to the pub” is next to impossible. So. I’m dating a guy who’s 5’4 with a bit of a belly and he’s just my type. Someone who doesn't read and has "chilling" and "going to the pub" as hobbies is just your type? OR Did you find a guy who reads and has interesting hobbies?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:35 AM
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Zero expectations you're able to uphold a conversation Are you a kid? You know this sub is for grown ups, right? Equal treatment still means that two people can hold a conversation. You didn't choose equal or special so I gave you equal. Why did you assume a choice when there was none?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:29 AM
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Knowing when to shut up is a skill you would benefit a lot from.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:26 AM
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Idk, the dating profiles that I've seen (mine and my friends') are filled with all the hints and openers regarding all the books they enjoy and nerdy topics they like to talk about and the hobbies they have. You're just looking at the jocks with visible abs. There's no shame in admitting that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:25 AM
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Are you against equal treatment or do you want special treatment? If you want equal treatment don't expect women to be nice to you. These are two completely opposite things, do you realize that? Ah, women trying to play smart will never not be amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:21 AM
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I wasn't talking to you here. Knowing when to shut up is a skill you would benefit a lot from.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:19 AM
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But good luck finding a man who reads. About as hard as finding a bird that flies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:17 AM
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Some men actually like women. I do as well. Until they remind me why they're so hopeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:16 AM
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Please do us all a favour and read what you typed before you press "comment". Are you against equal treatment or do you want special treatment? How are they so mutually exclusive that I can't have both? IF I were against equal treatment, I could want special treatment from someone I talk to. Me being treated as special WOULD be unequal treatment by definition. I can't believe I have to teach english to redditors now. men were always inferior to women in higher education. Hey if you wanna call 4 …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:15 AM
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Or maybe you surround yourself with the wrong men and project it onto all men. The most interesting people I've ever talked to have been men. Maybe stop trying to discuss literature with that sports captain with visible abs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:09 AM
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What's a guy supposed to do then? Date men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:06 AM
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both of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:05 AM
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If she wanted to, she would.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 11:00 AM
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yep. Women and their bad faith arguments. Sometimes I wonder why men even engage with them in discussions in the first place. I think a male-only ppd would have much more productive discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:59 AM
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it's a troll. don't mind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:55 AM
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or because they lack the ability or willingness to uphold a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:50 AM
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I could have just been selfish and mean the whole time. That's more of a reflection about you than the ex husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:28 AM
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dick is not utility, it is a part of human body. An integral part of the man. Sex is not something you "get out" of someone, like money or time or effort. It is an activity that 2 people DO TOGETHER.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:24 AM
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Some men want to be married And some people like to take drugs that will ruin their life. Your point being?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:22 AM
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I suspect that's what happened to Lilith as well lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 10:10 AM
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Okay.... So you're a misogynist then? No. Because I don't hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:54 PM
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Being the best version of yourself is good enough I believe. How you are or aren't as a partner shouldn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:45 PM
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If everyone can be self serving then targeting only women is misogyny don't you think? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:44 PM
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Everyone can be self serving. Yes, but we are talking about men being taken advantage of. Are you one of those "all lives matter" people when people talk about racism? "Men are wonderful" ? There's no such thing. "Women are wonderful" effect, on the other hand, is an actual phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 10:56 AM
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ew. no.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:57 AM
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You wouldn't want to make LESS than your husband. You'd just like your husband to make MORE than you. It's weird how women's mind works that way, but it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:56 AM
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You see women as tyrants. Admitting that women are self-serving individuals who would take advantage of someone if they can is not same as seeing them as tyrants. It's seeing them as human. Can you prove men think women are angels? Google "Women are wonderful" effect. You're welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:45 AM
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If you willfully refuse to see how society brainwashes men to see women as innocent little angels and invest time, resources and effort to earn their love and how women use this brainwashing to manipulate men, that's on you. I'm not gonna explain empathy to you. I can't explain sunlight to a blind person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:32 AM
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Prove it. Have a brain Prove it. Have a brain Here you go. You can explore this. No thanks. We are debating straight dating here, not asexual dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:29 AM
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So you have no answer and just like to blame men for women's doings? Thought so.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:24 AM
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Religious people who dont fuck before marriage. If they were truly religious they wouldn't date around. They'd let their parents arrange their marriage instead. Asexuals. People unable to fuck. Long distance relationships. So, asexuals and play-pretend relationships. Got it 👍 There's also the intense emotional bond that SHOULD go deeper than even the closest of friends. False. That's just in your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:19 AM
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And how is a well earning guy in a poor country supposed to not "present himself as easy mark"? By dating women on his economic level? Those women are going to chase even richer guys. And then your kind would go on to blame those richer guys for "presenting themselves as easy marks". "Ah, why were YOU going out in the streets? of course the stabbers will stab you. Your fault."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:16 AM
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If you see relationships as the cost of sex rather than the goal, you don’t want a relationship. False. That's just your opinion. Two can play the stupid game.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:12 AM
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If you're done with the victim blaming as women always do, can you now answer his question? Then how am I supposed to know if she's attracted to me or she's with me just for convenience?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 12:07 AM
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I know right? Craving for a pizza can only be satisfied with a pizza. And for it to BE a pizza, there has to be both bread and cheese.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:59 PM
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And there is no relationship without sex. If you're hanging out platonically, you're friends. Your point being?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:58 PM
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I can like pizza AND cheese. It doesn't mean I'm gonna enjoy dry bread without cheese. It also doesn't mean that I'm only after cheese, or else I would've just bought a block of cheese. I want pizza along with the cheese on top of it. That's what makes it a pizza. That and the sauces and the toppings.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:37 PM
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A wise man once said "Everything is about sex. Except for sex. Sex is about ego." Which is true for most men. Yes, sex is also about having a good time and pleasure, but that VALIDATION that comes with it is so good that nothing can substitute it - no hookers, no AI girlfriends, no wives. Which is why once you let go of that ego and see that craving for validation for what it is, it loses its charm. And then acheiving post nut clarity by your own hands seems to be much more efficient an option. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:13 PM
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No one except for desperate gay men would call THAT cute. But now he's actually hot and would get tinder matches. So it's a win for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 10:31 AM
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Why are you sad that he's no longer an ugly neckbeard?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 10:25 AM
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It's insane how we're given a sub to discuss dating but forbidden from talking about the real factors that drive it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 10:24 AM
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Or MAYBE she actually doesn't desire him and is using sex to complete a relationship tick box for the sake of having a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 10:06 AM
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"She only has sex with me once in a blue moon after I spend tonnes of effort and resources into impressing her, maybe she's not really into me." Is as genuine an issue as any other.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:09 PM
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And this thread is a parody of that thread. And it deserves to be called out for what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:07 PM
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sounds pretty objectifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:06 PM
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nah I'm good. I already have my answers, but most guys on here don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:00 PM
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Seems like you solved women's dating issues then. Hooray! Now we can focus on men's issues and answer their queries without being disingenious.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:57 PM
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like wanting a virgin while having a high BC. It's usually men who are virgin themselves or conservatives who expect virgin partners. They are mocked nonetheless. never seen a man being mocked for desiring to be a woman’s first choice. that’s perfectly valid. Perhaps you purposedly turn a blind eye everytime a man is accused of wanting "Chad treatment" when all they describe is genuine signs that they are a woman's first choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:55 PM
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That's your personal modus operandi. Advising it to others as a strategy definitely makes it a reward system, which is what most women already do, and then whine when men leave after hooking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:51 PM
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them being your first choice Then why are men here mocked when they express their desire to be someone's first choice here in this subreddit? "You're just insecure" is what all women screech. and being genuinely desired means absolutely nothing to women. duh. Thank you for confirming. OP just wants to be worshipped and have her ego stroked.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:41 PM
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If you want to dismiss a genuine issue by reducing it and argue in bad faith, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:38 PM
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does he look at other women? God forbid a man has eyes. men are rather easy to read. And yet here we are, trying to parody a genuine question about women's desire. dont sleep with him straight away, its always a good idea to wait Yeah sure, treat sex as a trophy, a reward and then blame men when they play along and believe sex to be a reward as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:31 PM
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but actually considers you his dream girl. Sho she doesn't care about desire. She wants to be worshipped. She could've asked that honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:24 PM
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Where do you draw the line where she's waiting to get to know him better vs putting out eventually out only to complete some "relationship tick box" or giving him good boy points after spoiling her and taking her out to multiple places. This IS about parasitism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:22 PM
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Unbalanced effort in dating IS parasitic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:46 PM
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exactly. I don't understand guys who post Q4W honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:43 PM
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If a host can't be happy with a parasite that's happy with sucking him dry, the host doesn't want a relationship, he wants to hoard his nutrition.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:40 PM
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This is such a weird question. Men's desire is usually very simple and straightforward, they either want you or they don't. No hidden agendas. Did he approach you? Did he innitiate contact? Does he want to have sex with you? Does he get a boner when he looks at you naked? If any if these is true then the desire is genuine. Male desire is a light switch. Female desire is an airplane control room. The Q4W version makes sense. This one doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 12:11 PM
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gay porn will cause obvious disgust ancient greek music stops
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:39 PM
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You underestimate how desperate women like that are. Not really desperate when there's a bunch of dudes trying to impress them. You could call them desperate when they start approaching men. know average men who pick up low value women at the club and bar. And I know ugly women who don't even consider average men as an option and only date attractive men. Maybe you see a regular tall white guy and call him "average". You don't even notice actual average guys. Are any of the guys you see pick up …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:51 PM
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Average men don't get casual sex either. You have to be significantly more attractive than the rest of the dudes to get any kind of sexual interest. So you aren't really disproving any of my points.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:40 PM
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There are women like me who are just not wired to hookup. Doesn't matter. You could still get it if you wanted to. You have that power. A random mid guy doesn't. A man with self control is a bigger flex Self control as a flex comes AFTER you already have the ability to get casual sex. Fucking a bunch of easy low value thots isn’t impressive. It is. Because a majority of men CANNOT fuck a bunch of "easy low value thots". Only women and hot men can. That's the whole point. And if you cannot aknowl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:36 AM
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😆😆 Good one. But no. I disagree with you dividing women into "sluts with low standards" and "women with high standards". Yes, I know, it's a tendency for prudish christians to have a "holier than thou" attitude, but it actually means nothing. Any and all women can have casual hook ups if they want to. In that sense they are all equal. But any and all men cannot have casual hook ups. You cannot just walk up to someone at a bar and pick her up as a short/fat/balding guy. You have to at least be le…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:07 AM
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It's not that they hate men BECAUSE they aren't attracted to them. It's that their misandry and general disgust towards men as a whole exists side by side, not one caused by the other. That said, yes, I have always maintained the opinion that misogyny is just a buzzword to condemn any and all behaviour disapproved by the feminist thought, while misandry is Actual, real HATRED towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:56 AM
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They have low standards and sleep with anyone Yeah right.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 04:24 PM
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And why would those "slutty women" be "picked" by a regular avg Joe instead of a taller, hotter guy who's also trying to pick her up?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 04:16 PM
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Definitely average, but she's probably already drowning in male attention. So out of your league (unless you're also getting a good amount of female attention).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 11:49 AM
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Peak SMV for anyone irrespective of gender is the age where you'd be sexiest of all ages IF you maintained your physical peak at all ages. i.e. you at peak(20 y.o.) vs you at peak(25 y.o.) vs you at peak(35 y.o.) and so on. And that peak SMV would be early 20s for both men and women. Unfortunately, women don't choose who to hook up with solely based on physical peaks, they take social capital, interpersonal skills, resources etc into consideration. Which is why the age where you can pull most wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 11:43 AM
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Superiority to the men who cannot be fuckboys and man sluts. Anyone with more than 2 brain cells knows that it takes a lot to become a man slut. That's why it's celebrated. Who cares about fuckboys and man sluts Everyone whose opinion matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 11:19 AM
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The only acceptable arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:35 PM
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Seeing my batchmates who left well-paying full time jobs to come here to study, resorting to homedeliveries is fucking depressing. I'd never support such an exploitative industry now. Goodbye homedelivery apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:33 PM
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I thought about it a few years ago. And no, I think gay men and married men shouldn't count. What makes straight men who get laid superior is the fact that they achieve it despite women being super picky about casual hook ups. So if you change your target to something easy - like men or a committed woman, then you don't count. But with this logic, it IS easier for a hot straight guy to get laid than an ugly straight guy. So idk. Maybe an ugly guy who gets laid as much as the hot guy would be sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:30 PM
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Yes yes and you wouldn't date a business tycoon either. We know. Doesn't negate their superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:26 PM
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Probably a Greek God or something powerful and sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:24 PM
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Same, but my torso is not long enough and my pelvis is wider than I'd want it to be. I'm Gimli shaped 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:22 PM
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I wouldn't say they're "strong", just moderate, normal preferences. green/blue eyes different shades of blonde (think platinum blonde or dirty blonde) and red hair. Lovely colour combos that can make someone look like an elf. <3
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:20 PM
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cool
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:16 PM
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I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:57 PM
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Yo, got a couple of my comments on yesterday's daily thread deleted by Reddit itself. Not from PPD mods, but REDDIT mods. Didn't know something like that could happen lol. Does this mean someone reported my comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 11:53 PM
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God forbid a man has confidence that everyone tells him to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:57 PM
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He was not getting anywhere with the ladies in the left picture either. So atleast now he'd get compliments from fellow gym bros. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:54 PM
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Even if they do grow resentful they will eventually get tired of being angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:06 PM
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It's about principles. Idc how many men get it for free and how many have to court. I see that there exist situations where women do get horny without being courted. And I decide for myself that this kind of behaviour from women is what I want for myself. I don't check stats to see how many men get it or how many don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:59 PM
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Yes it is. But that's just how I view the dating dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:56 PM
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only one of them can be the trophy. Reacher vs Settler.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:53 PM
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If that's the word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:47 PM
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DAE feel conflicted between wanting a partner better than yourself and also wanting to be the trophy? Like the only context where I'd feel a relationship is worth it is when I'm pursued and chased and made to feel special. But I also know that I can't be attracted to a woman who isn't ATLEAST an equal to myself in all measurable criteria and qualities, I need to be able to admire her. Gotta either do an FMF or stay single I guess lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:41 PM
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Ah, that makes sense. I was wondering why they were so pissed about nothing. Lara Raj is with Katseye, the members are young themselves (one just turned 18 a couple months ago, Lara is 20) and a lot of their fans/avid defenders seem to be teens. Also makes sense why I know nothing about all of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:55 PM
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large enough sample size if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:53 PM
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Bruh. As a fellow Indian, they are chill offline but not on reddit communities. Like yes, the ones I know irl are pretty cool but this online behaviour makes me doubt that most if not all Indian women are filled with some sort of hatred towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:36 PM
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It's the Indian women that I was talking about. They're not chill, trust me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:32 PM
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idk I was just scrolling and the post appeared on my feed. It felt only right to ragebait them a little. And I don't think they're all teenagers. Probably adult women in their 20s or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:31 PM
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I know right? Insecure WOC are some of the biggest racists when it comes down to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:23 PM
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lmao. I didn't even think about the american politics before commenting that. It came up later. They were just comparing some brown actress to Sydney so I made a little joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:21 PM
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Got banned from a subreddit centered around brown women today for saying "Sydney Sweeney has great Jeans" lol. It's funny how whiney and insecure they can get over a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:16 PM
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the hand you're dealt. IS the scam though. So why do you try to convince people otherwise? Men are intelligent enough to see through it and refuse to play by the rigged rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:23 PM
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People go Dutch. And the OP claims that going Dutch prevents women from getting horny. So not really. They just have the vague, you could even say biological, urge to get her attention. Yes, men also suffer from acting upon their biological urges, courting and peacocking being a part of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:55 PM
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That's no excuse for dumb dating traditions though. Nature is weird, but we still found ways to cure severe diseases and make laws to control violent people. Why can't women override this "nature" of theirs which is so clearly selfish and benefits them at the man's expense? Because they don't have to and they don't want to. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:46 PM
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exactly. They never say that part out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:43 PM
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I doubt that we could overcome our basic instincts. I wouldn't wanna date women who can't. So idc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:42 PM
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Yes. And the sharp, knife-like penises of bedbugs that they use to stab when mating cause the females to die of wounds most of the times. Your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:31 PM
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And I'd prefer to date women who overcome those primitive biological and historical "reasons" like a civilized person is supposed to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:29 PM
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Pretty bad investment to do all that in hopes that a woman gets horny, and then she doesn't and then all that time, effort and money is wasted and you get called a misogynistic pig for expecting the woman to "put out in exchange for food". I'd rather spend that money on myself. And everyone knows that women can and do get horny for way less, so "that's not how women work" is not accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:19 PM
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"I can only get horny when you're bending over backwards and spending money to feed and entertain me" How convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:13 PM
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if I turn a blind eye to the general consensus then I'm gonna become a victim of it. Could be. Could be not. You already tried centering yourself around the general consensus, and that hasn't prevented you from being its victim, has it? You're still haunted by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:01 PM
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Makes sense. I'd only advise you to question your beliefs then if they cause so much pain and confusion. Redesign the way you look at things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:46 PM
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lmao no. to be interpreted in the context of feminity kinda sucks ? That's again your own POV. You hear the word "feminine" and think about the definition given by the society. That's a you problem. If you want to redefine feminity you have to at LEAST deviate from it a little Deviate from it as much as you want and need to. It doesn't mean that you automatically become masculine. Masculine and feminine are not polar opposites. Moving away from one doesn't make you closer to the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:25 PM
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Makes sense. But then again, if I were a woman I'd question myself as to why I want to earn masculinity instead of living in my femininity, which I could actively define for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:17 PM
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Can you explain this more? This definition ranges from superficial to moralistic and seeps into many aspects of the lifestyle. Height, strength, muscularity, facial hair and so on are the most obvious examples of what society defines as masculine or manly. Then comes the expectations to be a stoic. To have control over your emotions and sensitivity. The old beaten "men don't cry" rhetoric. Then comes the utility. "A real man looks after his family". "A real man sacrifices for his loved ones". "A…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 02:25 PM
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There is none, you gotta come up with your own reasoning. Society has always defined masculinity as something you earn, something you'd have to "deserve" and until then you're not a "real man". So most men grow up looking forward to these hollow ideals, trying to "earn their manhood" and then getting disappointed when they fail. It used to be same for women and "femininity" but thanks to Feminism, it changed and now Womanhood is seen as something inherent to woman. I see masculinity as something…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:59 PM
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Masculinity is something you earn, I think. It's a reward. It's something you got to prove before you do it especially as a woman. That's where you're wrong, kiddo.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:43 PM
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I mean you'd like it if you looked like perfect femboy material and I treated you like so (but appreciated and fucked you for it bcs i like femboys idk), even though you yourself are a very masculine person ? Are you a very masculine woman who wants to be appreciated for her masculinity but is forced to become feminine? If that's not the case then this analogy doesn't work. If I looked like a femboy then I'd love to be appreciated and fucked by women who like femboys. I can be a femboy with a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:34 PM
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No woman would say this. Because no woman wants to acknowledge that men can be victims of objectification too, and this is the objectification that women do to men. How do you manage to identify with something you're trapped with and forced to do (pursue a career, earn for supporting family) than with something that is an integral part of what you are (your genetics, your body, your face). Looks are not the trap, they are the essence. The career, the job, the whole ratrace for "success" is the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:20 PM
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You're kidding right? The "be confident in your own body" and the whole "nudity is sensual, not sexual" sham is all about women being confident and comfy in their own body. Because they know that no matter what they look like, their bodies will be appreciated and praised, not seen as a threat like men's naked bodies are. because we don't fit with said body Maybe you're a man trapped in a woman's body? When we appreciate men for their accomplishments You objectify them for something that they do,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 01:14 PM
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imagine the Creator of the universe being so obssessed with where you stick it. Couldn't be me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:27 PM
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Your girlfriend False. Next question.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:20 PM
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You can hide your post history on your profile and post whatever on whichever sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:19 PM
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Realized this when I was 19. Female attention is like an exotic, rare fruit that everyone wants. People try to steal it or buy it. And those who own it have to give it to the highest bidder because people are offering value in its exchange. Male attention is like that low quality expired candy that nobody wants. So much so that those who own it resort to offering it freely or even throwing it at those who don't want it. Some even pay to give it away (negative value). This applies to all kinds of…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 11:10 PM
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Every other combination is more common than women approaching men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 10:34 AM
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Well well well, look who's second.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 05:21 PM
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A woman asking a man out is feminine, it's a feminine trait. Why would a woman disagree with that? I don't know..... Because it takes emotional expressiveness to do it, and my brain goes and says "that's beautiful so is she"....there's nothing more feminine than asking a man out. All my respect and admiration to these girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:13 PM
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Oh yes? What does it indicate, genius?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:06 AM
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She was superior in every way. Others who were better wanted her. She also knows that others do not find him attractive and is aware distinctly of the fact that he is not a looker. Yes, some people are into feet and some like being shat on. Jay-Z got lucky due to Beyonce having whatever condition she has to be attracted to him. Does that mean all the plain and ugly dudes would get women who are equally attracted to them? No. Do most plain dudes end up with someone anyway? Yes. But be honest with…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:53 PM
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The point of my post is that you can be unattractive to 99% of people but if you play things right you can find the 1% that will go crazy for you And my point is that if you're unattractive to 99% of people there's little chance that you'd ever come across that left over 1%. It's much better to become more attractive in a general way so that those 1% become like 10% .
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:48 PM
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I see. Hope things go well for Georgia 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:34 PM
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Georgia is such a beautiful country with sooo pretty women <3 Is your dictator that annoying that you'd want the 'murica to interfere?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:47 PM
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Nothing is "meant to be". Everything that happens, happens. You want a particular outcome, you put in the effort. That's all you can do. The rest is fate - pure luck and chaos. 99% of the species that ever existed are dead now. Out of those 1% that still exist, yours turned out to be capable of making a safe environment for its members. Out of all those who are born in this species, some die during birth, some in childhood. Some are born in wartorn countries or disabilities. If you're a healthy,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:45 PM
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idk, describing your partner as "unattractive" is pretty icky. I'm sure no one would say this to their face. Because it shows how you actually feel about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:34 PM
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laughs in abbysmal measurements
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:30 PM
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idk, statements like "I was attracted to this ugly guy" seem kind of dishonest. Like what do you want, brownie points for being so charitable?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:28 PM
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That's too many words to rationalize settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 05:21 PM
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You can't "match her energy" without knowing intent. People may flirt if they are interested, people may flirt casually and playfully without interest. All you can do is be receptive and brush it off. Trying to make any conclusions out of such behaviours only makes a fool out of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:15 PM
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I have a few girl friends who casually flirt a lot, with me and other guy friends of our group. It doesn't indicate anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:10 PM
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It's fine to assume as long as you don't go in for the kill as soon as it registers. It's better to not assume interest at all than to assume interest and NOT act upon it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:08 PM
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"Hello, starving kids! Have you ever considered dieting?"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:06 PM
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I’ve been attracted to plenty of short/unattractive men and many of my friends have as well. If you can acknowledge the fact that they were unattractive then you weren't attracted to them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:03 PM
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Never assume that any particular woman is interested in you, unless she herself confirms otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:42 AM
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could be. could be not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 09:18 AM
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Because women also experience the "instant" attraction which people here very conveniently tag as "male attraction". But this instant, looks based attraction is not gendered and is the actual, true form of attraction that exists. When men express such attraction, they get called as creeps or objectifiers. When women express such attraction, the recieving party is much more open to it (because he's a man), and the third party observers rationalize it with terms like "chemistry" or "man's confiden…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:27 AM
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In that case you're not gonna find anything of "highest value" lol. You and I are impermanent. The universe is impermanent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:09 PM
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It's natural to be tempted to such an easy life. But we didn't get a choice, did we? The best we can do for ourselves is to see the opportunity in our situation, no matter how shitty it is, and take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:59 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:53 PM
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2 chumps discussing their preferences. What about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:38 PM
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I see the cue, I start singing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:37 PM
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Probably get to retire early after writing a few shitty books and giving a few shitty Ted talks about how much of a victim she is. That's true. But what's also true is that people like that don't get a chance to introspect and evaluate their lives. They are so comfortable in looking outside and putting the blame on others that they never feel the need to look inwards. A life unassessed and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:35 PM
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It's a song bruh 💀 And this victim complex is not gonna get you anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:00 PM
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I know. But the OP worded it such that it sounds like RedPill treats women as products that expire. It is important to clarify that this is not what redpill does.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:52 PM
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people are strange, when you're a stranger. Faces look ugly, when you're alone. Women seem wicked, when you're unwanted. Streets are uneven, when you're down.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:52 PM
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Just go to your local walmart and look at average couples. Then touch grass in the parking lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:43 PM
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Women are people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:37 PM
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Women have the right to choose who to date. It is okay to have preferences. It is also okay to acknowledge when these preferences are rooted in bigotry. Like Biphobia in women who don't date Bi men. What other reason could it be? Bi men are just men, they are just like any other man except that they are also attracted to men. If you as a woman is okay in dating a "straight" guy but not in dating a "bi" guy, then the only thing you are repulsed by is his bisexuality, which makes you biphobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:40 PM
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I never said that true attraction "lasts forever". In fact true attraction is very momentary, and physical in nature. It's instantaneous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:31 PM
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I feel like repeatedly forcing yourself to have sex you don’t want with someone very quickly kills any kind of emotional connection you have with someone and builds resentment. Sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't. When it doesn't build resentment, you get average or ugly couples "bumping uglies" with the lights turned off, so that they don't have to look at each other naked. When they do build resentment, you see deadbedrooms and couples who fight among themselves and sometimes lead to divorc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:59 PM
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Appeal to nature fallacy - which is not even true. The vast majority of children would be raised by single mothers. That would have made our species extinct. It is incredibly difficult to raise children with one parent. That is why we have pair bonding in the first place. Most of the social mammals have children being raised by single mothers. Those species don't go extinct, why would ours do? In such animals, the females usually herd together and take care of each other and the kids. Who a part…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:55 PM
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I can guess some benefits off the top of my head if you want me to... -Like companionship -Emotional intimacy/attachment -Social validation that comes with being partnered. -Savings on rent and taxes. -Convenience of having someone to take care of you And so forth. People don’t just spend their life with someone they dislike and are not attracted to while forcing themselves to have sex with them for no reason. You can like someone, even love them without being attracted to them. Women do that a …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:47 PM
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Have you ever been to Kyiv? No, I haven't been to wartorn eastern europe yet. But thanks for the recommendation. There is a ton of good looking people period. Whether men or women. Apparently not enough, or those "bombshells" would be dating other "bombshells". Women select on Physical Appearance, Status and Money. Women compromise on their attraction if you have enough status and money. True.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:40 PM
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Idk, you'd have to ask this question to women committed to average joes. Why do they force themselves to have sex with unattractive dudes? Why do they lie to themselves about being attracted to their husbands? Why don't they pursue sex freely with the men they are actually attracted to (the men they'd hook up with no strings attached)?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:36 PM
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You really think most women just don't have sex with their husbands? Yes they do... begrudgingly. It's called maintainance sex. Women like sex to. With someone they are attracted to. Not with the average male blob they tied down for marriage benefits. Maybe it's not Chad levels of physical attraction The only kind of attraction that's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:33 PM
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Once you pair bond you find your partner attractive Psychological conditioning is what it is. That is why if you go visit Kyiv or some other Eastern European country you will see a ton of couples where guy is average looking and the woman is a bombshell. Those "bombshells" resort to dating average dudes because they don't have access to equally hot men, otherwise they'd be pairing off with those male bombshells. It's an environmental constraint, not a conscious choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:31 PM
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Dating in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:26 PM
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Not reddpilled but here's my opinion anyway: No. Attraction is not a choice. I get hard to whatever I get hard to. If there's someone I wasn't attracted to the first time I looked at her, there's no way I'd be attracted to her later. I firmly believe that it works the same for women. Every other kind of "attraction" is just forced conditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:24 PM
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you're confusing pedophiles and child predators. Which most people do but there's a slight difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:21 PM
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Not the original commenter but yes. They enter relationships for ulterior motives(or other benefits if you may). And IF they have sex (no strings attached, just casual sex) it's with the very small minority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:20 PM
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Which is why I only befriend women I know I won't be physically attracted to. They're either not my type or simply ugly. Some of the closest girl friends I have, I can't imagine myself being attracted to them. <3
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 12:08 PM
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While a nearly equal share of men and women say a man needs to be able to provide for his family to be a good husband or partner (72% and 71%, respectively), men are less likely than women to say the same about women. Just a quarter of men say this is very important for a woman to be a good wife or partner, compared with 39% of women.” So both men and women equally enforce male gender roles but women also enforce female gender roles more than men do. Interesting. Still doesn't negate the fact th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:48 AM
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Most “modern” minded men still don’t prioritize chasing a higher earning provider woman. Talk about yourself. I and many like me would absolutely love a higher earning provider woman. they find it emasculating Is it because men find it "emasculating" or because actually those "rich girlboss types" see those lower earning men as inferior and treat them as such instead of treating them with respect as equals?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 11:21 AM
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You can't "woo" someone who won't look at you twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:55 AM
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The traits you picked aren’t superior just because you think being a financial provider is superior. Except that they are. "Inferior" and "superior" are words of comparison. Comparison can only be done among measurable qualities. "feminine" is not measurable. "masculine" is not measurable. If we have to argue who should logically chase whom, we have to base it on a measurable metric. There’s no epidemic of broke women marrying rich men But there IS an epidemic of 80K earning women marrying 120K …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:53 AM
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actual aspects of yourself the wooing which makes you attractive or at least greatly hinders or enhances it. That will not come into the picture since we have already established a few comments ago that the woman is out of the league of that man in terms of attractiveness. Which means she will not personally interact with him since's she's physically more attractive than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:44 AM
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moral character to be bigoted What does my moral character have to do with my physical preferences? And how is it bigotry if I don't discriminate anyone in daily life?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:40 AM
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How is it bigotry to prefer blue eyes or red hair in a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:36 AM
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“feminine qualities" "masculine gender role" Just buzz words that traditionalists use to put people into boxes. I'm talking about actual, measurable qualities. Does the woman earn more than the man? Does she have her own car? How high up is she in the social/occupational hierarchy? Is she more educated than the man? And so on and so forth. If she is better than the man in all these aspects then maybe she deserves to be chased. Otherwise it should be the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:32 AM
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Wooing can be respect That's just the basics of being a civilized person. humour, intelligence That's part of being yourself. But wooing should still come AFTER mutual attraction is established.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:21 AM
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I know right? This is an obvious troll. The same one who used "women" and "males" earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:18 AM
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Agreed. It only makes sense to chase a woman if she's better than you in every possible way. But since most straight pairs have the man be older, richer, more resourceful and of a higher social standing, it makes no senseas to why he should chase someone who's inferior to him. I would chase a rich, powerful woman but I know it wouldn't work because women like that won't want someone like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:13 AM
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Saves a lot of wasted effort. True.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 10:09 AM
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lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:42 AM
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Can you say why she would be attracted to him though? It's not my place to tell someone what they should or shouldn't be attracted to. I just think there should be mutual attraction without any extra incentives or "wooing" involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:41 AM
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thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:39 AM
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did you get assassinated mid comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:47 PM
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That's not the point I was making.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:35 PM
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Been there longer than I should've been. No Domme is thrilled to take on inexperienced young subs there either, trust me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:31 PM
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It is infact exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:47 PM
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Really depends on the woman! Dom women are more rare but they exist. Same for women who wants to show the ropes. Not really, as those rare dom women are still bombarded by attention and requests from submissive men, so they prefer men who already know their shit.... or atleast use it as a filter. I mean if you're going to let someone take the lead and fuck you you'd prefer someone who knows what they're doing Makes sense. But I don't think women (contrary to many men) see it as a deal-breaker fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:46 PM
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as someone who has this fetish Good for you! You are a unicorn then. men are simply unteachable so i gave up. Could be different kind of men who are not very open to suggestions or to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:43 PM
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exactly. I'd rather stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:41 PM
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lol I know right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:23 PM
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Then he should be happy staying single Cool 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:22 PM
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Yes but what if he is only attracted to women who are out of his league?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 07:07 PM
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As someone who has always been attracted to older, more experienced women - the idea of a more experienced woman showing me the ropes was hot when I was young and inexperienced. Then I realized that women hate the idea of guiding someone less experienced than them. So not only do women as a whole complain about men not accepting high n-count women, the high n-count women themselves are not attracted to inexperience in men, unless they have to tolerate it because the man brings other benefits to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:59 PM
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could be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:55 PM
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What if one just wants to date women he finds attractive, who also find him attractive? With no statistics or tricks or monkeydancing involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:52 PM
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mods would delete the comments if we did.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:17 PM
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If I were a woman I'd be a findom and exploit desperate men. I'm just very disappointed that similarly desperate women don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:15 PM
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Why does this get pinned for so long but not the Looks thread? What's there to discuss about N counts anyway? Yes it matters in women and not so much in men. /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:11 PM
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Ah, that tracks. I thought all the women here were American or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 01:46 PM
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Buddhist tattoos huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 01:30 PM
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op is talking about men who aren't hot. No hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 12:26 AM
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just trying being kind and caring. In my experience there are a lot of women who value that and you might be more successful than you think. The world is chock full of kind and caring men and if women are falling for something as basic as "kind and caring" then it's just sad, it's not fun or sexy. What's fun and sexy is to be liked for being "hot".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 11:52 PM
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Could be true. It's highly unlikely for there to be more women at any place related to dating or sex tbh. So the advise is probably more about meeting no women vs meeting some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:59 PM
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I don't start shows this long either lol. It was one of the few exceptions and I'm happy that I watched it XD.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:49 PM
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Will see. If the mods remove it we'll know it hit the right spot lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:29 PM
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lol. I binged it for the first time back in 18. Started again in 24 Nov to show it to my friends - 1 ep/day. It took us a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:28 PM
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I was just giving a Crowley reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:20 PM
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Things like poly and open relationships, or differences between maledom vs femdom narratives, or the attitudes towards cis males in "all inclusive" spaces and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:17 PM
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Will try and see.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:16 PM
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lol. Wish I were in this sub at that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:15 PM
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I doubt that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:15 PM
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I don't think that most people who practice kink really want to socialise doing it I agree. Most people practice kink at some point out of curiosity, but most do it privately within relationships. But I have more questions about those who are active in the "scene" like attending munches and kinky parties and stuff. Especially not women for obvious reasons. Not true actually. The guys who ask how to find kinky women are frequently advised by men and women to visit more munches. So I think there a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:15 PM
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I think majority who would answer would be vanilla so their answers would be uninformed. And if I direct the posts to "only people into kink" there wouldn't be enough of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:11 PM
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lmao true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:07 PM
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The "No looks discussion" rule is dumb af I agree. Like what's even the point of discussing dating and m/f dynamics at all if you're cutting out the most important aspect? And then the mods either don't pin the weekly looks thread deliberately or forget to post it at all. That aside, there's tonnes of discussion to be had about kink scene as well. It's basically normal dating dynamics but on roids.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 09:02 PM
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Q4A: how many of you PPDers into the kink scene - like actually attending munches and observing the dynamics there? I sometimes think about starting kink related discussions here but feel like y'all are too vanilla for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:50 PM
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Also true for physique. They say that women are not as strict about men's bodies but everytime there's a personal ad where a woman's looking to sext and she has specific preferences, those preferences are ALWAYS tall, muscular/atheletic. No one demands a chubby dadbod.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:48 PM
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The D in PPD stands for Dumbass.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:44 PM
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if your goal is to find any woman at all to procreate like animals then yes, you can use any means at your disposal. But if you want to be actually desired by your partner, using anything other than looks will work against your goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 08:43 PM
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You’re assuming hurt only exists in the present tense. But much of what people write about dating comes from accumulated experience, not current deprivation. In that case it is even more important to expose her to the other POVs so that she can evaluate her past hurt with more clarity about the real situation. Also understanding isn’t the same as endorsing. To someone who gets "I understand", "we understand" over and over after an emotional expression, it would definitely seem like their reactio…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:43 PM
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Honestly I’m more charitable toward incels when they post out of pain than you are being toward OP here. Again, good for you. I prefer to be equally uncharitable to both incels and women who post biased POVs without introspection or an effort to understand the other side. She’s expressing a fear of being chosen because standards are low, which feels interchangeable and dehumanising. Except you're missing the fact that she's already chosen. She's happily married and has no reason to be "hurt". Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:18 PM
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I read that as frustration, not a literal claim about men having no standards. You personally read that as frustration, and maybe rightfully so. But how many others would correctly read that as frustration? How many times do people defend and encourage these frustrations instead out pointing out that it's just frustration? In your replies it sounds like you do take your own hyperbolic framing at face value. I know it sounds like that. This is how I make a point.. along with ragebaiting some peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:53 PM
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So I give men the same space and grace I give women. Good for you. But OP is not giving both perspectives an equal space. Expecting her to pre-emptively account for how another group might parse the word “special” at an objective/subjective level is a pretty high bar. So NOW we need to lower the standards for women? jk. I think it’s doing what people usually do when they’re upset: speaking from their own lens. Yes, OP is upset, which is why her post is about her feelings more than a balanced arg…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:44 PM
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What they react to is when “good enough” is used as the end-state language, because it makes them feel interchangeable. That's a whole lot of subjective feeling and insecurity on women's part and nothing on how men actually mean it. I’m responding to a misunderstanding from your side of what OP means and translating it: when women say they want to be “special” they mean being intentionally chosen once there’s a real connection, not demanding instant devotion or denying early-stage screening. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:39 PM
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It’s about confusing objective replaceability with subjective significance. So the conflict isn’t that one side wants more than the other. It’s that women are talking about felt meaning, while men hear objective expectations. Same word, different lens… In that case OP's post is redundant because it emphasises women's definition of "special" while completely undermining male POV. Since both are equally valid, there is no need to convince each other that they are right and therefore this post is j…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:33 PM
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OP talking about what kind of relationship she’s ultimately looking for does not imply she expects pre-emptive devotion before even meeting. Treating those as equivalent is the error you keep on making. You can say the same thing about OP's argument as well. When men say they're just looking for someone who is good enough, they are talking about the early stage evaluation before they get to know their potential partner. Women think that those are low standards because they confuse end goals and …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:28 PM
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Men often criticize how women date, but women date the way they want to be dated. They are searching for “the one,” and they want a man who believes they are the one too. That's what OP said. I don’t think OP even thinks you should think they’re special before even meeting or she probably wouldn’t have gone on 100+ dates. So you're wrong. OP exactly thinks that you should see the other as "the one" from the get go.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:56 PM
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And how is the man supposed to know that you will be "special to him" after being in a monogamous relationship BEFORE he even meets you? OP's post is about women being upset that men are looking for someone who is "good enough". But "good enough" is all you are when you don't know someone or are getting to know them. How can a woman expect to be "special" to her dating prospect when that relationship doesn't even exist yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:37 PM
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How are you defining “special”? From all the objective, measurable criteria. Even if you get emotionally attached to that one person you're fucking, it doesn't change the fact that he/she is just another regular person and it could have been anyone else. The minimum criteria that they had to fulfill to successfully find a partner was that they were good enough and acceptable. Whatever beer goggles you wear after 10 years of monogamy is a separate thing. So when men pick someone who is "fine" and…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 11:03 PM
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Don't believe me just look at how soft and doughy average boys and men are now. And most need to wear glasses all the time. Yuck. lol talk about bodyshaming. The women didn't get any hotter either, for the record. Yes, I remember when people who wore glasses were the odd ones out. But I am not talking about videogames at all, haven't played any since I was a little kid. Idk why you turned the convo to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 08:34 PM
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Holy mother of assumptions lmao. If it makes you feel better and holier to "pity" me for "being happy in videogames" then be my guest.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:44 PM
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OR maybe you're just romanticizing it a bit too much. What's sad is that your happiness can be taken away just by taking away something impermanent from your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 07:34 PM
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Never said I'm willing to be settled for. In fact I personally would rather live a happy single life. It's just the fact that there are only two options realistically - be settled for or stay single. But for myself I'd choose the 2nd one. Lovers, spouses, friends and family members Family is what you're born with. They are special and irreplaceable because they made you into what you are. Friendship is also a strong bond, but there is no singular friend who is "special". I do love them and enjoy…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:39 PM
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Truly being “irreplaceable” is actually a toxic codependent dynamic. I agree. Which is why it's actually a good thing that all of us are replaceable. Takes a lot of burden off our shoulders. Being monogamous with someone is by definition being special to them. No, it just means that you're not fucking anyone else as long as you're with them. Doesn't mean that either one of you has to be special to each other. The world practiced arranged marriages throughout history. They stayed monogamous witho…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 06:04 PM
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Usually you see below 25 guys being in that identity crisis. 25-30 in the grief and after that a lot of men enter the acceptance phase where they actually find some peace. Guess I'm a quick learner then lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:10 PM
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I am seen as special by my boyfriend. That's cool! Happy for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:33 PM
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Exactly! "well over 100 dates" as if it was a flex on her part when most likely those 100 dates were initiated, planned, set up and paid for by the men who "didn't pass" the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:22 PM
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expect each other to only act on desire towards each other You can desire people who are not special. Desire in it self is not special, therefore the object of desire can also be non-special. In that case, I choose myself to be replaced and he can look for someone else. In that case I choose to be single. Nobody’s waiting for me right if I’m just replaceable. That's a respectable decision, yes. And I agree with the other guy who commented, if you really want to be seen as special, you could alwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 04:19 PM
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Women terrified for being chosen for what they are is no one else's problem but theirs. Society teaches men very early that they are not special little snowflakes. That everyone is replaceable. And I don't mean it in a traditional "macho, life is hard for men" way, but in a practical sense. Wanting to be special is the most common desire in humans, but men learn early to let go of it. Women, apparently, don't. Now, if you don't want to enter relationships until you're someone very special, that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:59 PM
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yes we know women on here only come to "dunk on losers" amd not for actual good faith discussions. Which is why any man with 2 functioning braincells wouldn't take their word for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:38 PM
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takes away from the struggles women can face in dating Ah yes. The rich kids struggle too.... with boredom and too much money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:01 PM
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the problem is girls never grow out of "boys are icky" stage. They come to reddit to complain about their non-existant "problems" instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:26 PM
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nothing. Please do them a favour and stay away from men. Thanks in advance ✌🏻
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:41 PM
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Only if I could hate people with my soles, my shoes would have worn out slower. Alas, the love in my heart weighs heavier.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:40 PM
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is their sex organs. Here's that weird obssession with sex organs again. Have you been to therapy? It might help you get over it. Commodification of sex and the woman's vagina just disgusts me frankly. That's because it triggers an insecurity within you, just like it does in other women. You just mistake it for "disgust" to protect your ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:33 PM
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You are paying for their product actually not their labour. Wrong again. You are paying for their product AND for their labour when you go to a restaurant to eat. You wouldn't like it if they asked you to serve your own food and clean the dishes before leaving, would you? Commodifying someones organs Like the chef's hands, waiter's hands and legs, and the cleaning staff's hands. sex Is something that is happening between 2 consenting adults, irrespective of where the money goes. You judging it j…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:41 PM
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You arent their employer. Their employer is paying for their labour. You are the customer. Youbare paying for their labour. The prostitutes labour is sex. Yes and? It's still a ssrvice being provided. Just like the chef is cooking food for you. It's the same. idk what's your obssession with the prostitute's vagina. Sounds kinda unhealthy ngl.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:27 PM
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You are being given food. That is the service. She is giving you sex and use of her vagina, that is commodifying her body and sex. She didn't give you a product. Sex with her vagina IS the product/commodity being offered. Food is the product. Cooking it and serving it to you on a plate, then cleaning your dirty dishes after you are done is the Service being offered. Just like sex with a prostitute is a service. Aren't you using their labour? Aren't you commodifying their hands and bodies?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:16 PM
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Hes paying to fuck her vagina, he's commodified her vagina and sex with her. When you pay for food in restaurant do you commodify the chef's hand and his cooking? Are you disrespecting his body and not seeing him as human? Its illegal in the US. Because US is run by dimwits. BB AF is just redpill propaganda though. I agree. But women do settle for men they are not attracted to for ulterior motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:09 PM
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Providing services you get paid for is not slavery no. That's what prostitutes are doing - providing a service they are paid for. No one is being harmed here. even when it isn't with someone he loves and if its with someone hes commodified. Even if it isn't with someone he loves but with someone he sees and respects as an independent human providing a service. Again not commodified. Personally I think prostitution and sex work should be illegal Good thing the laws are not dictated by dimwits. My…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:21 PM
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That he doesn't value sex as something special with someone you love. Do you ever eat out? Maybe at a restaurant or at a fastfood chain? Does that mean you don't value homecooked food as something special that you do for your loved ones? That it's something that can be baught and sold. Not the man's fault that women sell their time, attention and sexual services (not: services - NOT their bodies) for money. But just because theyre attractive doesn't mean the sex was good. So they WERE HOT. Thank…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:07 PM
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Hes literally paying to stick his dick in her vagina. He's paying for a service. A service that a woman is offering with her own free will. We're not all living in third world countries where all prostitution is human trafficking, you know? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodification#:~:text=Human%20commodity%20is%20a%20term,the%20market%20to%20an%20employer. So all the people working corporate jobs are commodities being used by their bosses? Is all employment slavery in your book? the guys i …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:31 PM
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It means he sees her body and sex with her as a commodity and not intrinsically special or valuable. Did he tell you that he sees her body as a commodity? or are you just assuming it because of your insecurity? Wouldnt that just be for hookups in general not hookup with a hot guy? It would be for hook ups in general if women hooked up with regular guys at all. But they don't. Hook ups happen between women and HOT men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:36 PM
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No it's just disgust for the man having paid and means the guy doesn't respect women or have morals. Why do they assume that the man doesn't respect women? He is supporting women in business by purchasing their services. It's just insecurity disguised as disgust. No they aren't they are insecure and jealous because they think they don't compare to chads. They are disgusted because it means woman has no morals and doesn't respect sex or monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:18 PM
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Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:53 AM
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The women feel insecure because they can't hold sex as a bait to manipulate the man anymore. The guy who refuses to date women who hooked up with attractive men are just disgusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:52 AM
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Why would it be disgust? Maybe it's just insecurity that they can't use sex as a weapon to manipulate those guys. But not liking if she has had sex with attractive guys is insecurity. That could be just disgust as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:38 AM
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That's not insecurity Why not? It's in the past right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:58 AM
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It's not insecurity. It's awareness and setting up a boundary. You don't call women "insecure" when they refuse to date guys who go to prostitutes, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:39 AM
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real best part of a woman's body: her asshole. Freud approves
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 10:38 AM
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Second
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 09:22 AM
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Yes, they are. Great argument. What? Is this a riddle? It's simple logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:49 PM
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No one who has enough budget, time and resources is going to thrift stores. A middle class person who "likes" thrifting is just limited by her bank account. A mediocre/average looking person who is "attracted" to their average looking partner is limited by their own attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:38 PM
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please improve your reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:34 PM
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Good idea for those who have plenty of options and wish to narfow down their choices to save time and effort - i.e. women and extremely attractive chads. Very bad and impractical choice if you are getting no interest to begin with - i.e. everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:32 PM
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You might see a really beautiful store window but not have money to buy, or a reason to wear that outfit, or simply in a rush to get elsewhere. And when you finally have the money, time and intention to buy an outfit, guess which ones are you picking? The torn, dull, generic ones or the shiny pretty ones that stand out?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:30 PM
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She just argues this point in bad faith. Don't worry about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:28 PM
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I assure you if their profiles were curated for male gaze they would contain just half nudes and when they're available. Did you forget that Grindr exists? All of the nonsense that men do and the time and effort they waste in curating their dating profiles are exactly meant for female gaze. It's just that there isn't enough female gaze to go around on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:02 PM
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I'm a man on this subreddit and I don't agree with any of your assertions. So you're already proven wrong. all the men here and manosphere are real, but none of them fit the description you pulled out of your ass. 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:53 AM
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Wrong. When I say I want to be TRULY desired by women, I mean just that. Plain and simple. I don't care what other men do or don't do in their relationships. I don't care what other women reward or don't reward. I do see women as people. I have good girl friends who I enjoy spending time with and don't expect any sexual favours with. I see women as people and sex as a mutually enjoyable activity. And I LOVE sluts. idk who even hates them except for prudes. TLDR: Any guy with half a braincell wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:31 AM
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Okay, as a guy in mid 20s who's exclusively into older women, what kind of looks/aesthetics should one lean into. Which physical features get more attention from women in their 30s/late 20s?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 11:45 PM
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Commenting here so that I could come back and read the replies to this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 11:41 PM
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Okay real talk, what does a short chubby brown dude have to do to get casual hook ups at someplace like europe? How can such a guy optimize his looks for the european crowd, in addition to "go gym get abs"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 11:39 PM
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You not agreeing with the answer does not make it a non-answer. Come back when you have an actual argument instead of strawmanning.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 06:56 PM
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Dating preferences are largely reflective of sexual preferences as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:16 PM
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Everyone likes the idea of eventually dominating and having their personal interests fulfilled, even if they portray themselves as more submissive/virtuous/self sacrificing etc. That's human. So it doesn't matter. What matters is that they predominantly prefer to be acted upon, be the object of desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:52 PM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:30 PM
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Truth right there
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:30 PM
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Because they boradcast their other sexual preferences without hesitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:29 PM
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Interesting. Thanks for the input.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 12:31 PM
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I see. Thanks for the input.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 12:30 PM
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I think so too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 12:22 PM
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lmao yes, that would be a big hole in the aesthetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 12:21 PM
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I see. braces like American kids from my generation Do you think braces are not as common in European culture as they are in American culture in your experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 12:20 PM
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I see. it seems as though super prominent gums with smaller teeth is less attractive than a “normal” ratio I think the same. Thanks for the input.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 12:18 PM
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I guess that means if you want to meet women interested in dominating you, you need to loudly and obviously and publicly state your preferences for being dominated Yep. Which is such a dumb double standard. The man has to publicly admit to something that WILL be judged negatively so that women don't have to publicly admit something that MIGHT or might not be judged negatively lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 11:18 AM
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I understand that poor oral hygine is a worse condition. But I was comparing clean teeth with structural issues to clean teeth without structural issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 11:13 AM
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Still worse than perfect teeth, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 11:12 AM
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How much do you guys think the dental aesthetics matter in attractiveness? Like prominent gums or smaller front teeth. I mean yeah they wouldn't cause any problem in any other facet of life and no one in their right mind would point it out, but I still think it knocks down facial aesthetics a peg on an otherwise normal face. Talk about ugly smiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 10:04 AM
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That's largely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 09:51 AM
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Throwing strawmen one after the other huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 02:21 AM
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I know. That's why I don't treat reddit women as a representation of real life women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 02:20 AM
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Very nice thought. The source of all your misery and disappointment in general is the expectations you have from others or your life. Acceptance goes a long way. Women are mad at men for being men. Men are mad at women for being women. But that's not necessarily because they assign a predefined "purpose" to one another. Sometimes they expect the other to think and feel like them, and when that doesn't happen, they get disappointed. Women always whine about the "male gaze" and "objectification" a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 02:13 AM
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nice strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:29 PM
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especially when you take into account the people who do dom/sub stuff without realizing it. Yep. That's the group I've been talking about. I know there are all kinds of people who discover their kinks later in life and learn about them and practice them discreetly. But I was not talking about those. like the question of how much of what you just mentioned is due to lingering sexism instead of women's preferences? I think they both affect each other, like a feedback loop of sorts. I think if half…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:07 PM
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Off the top of my head, Captain Marvel, Ballerina, A Court of Thorns and Roses, basically any film from the YA dystopia craze. Ah, by power fantasies I meant power Over other male characters. Sorry for miscommunication. As far as I know, Captain Marvel didn't do well simply because it was not interesting to the male audience - which is where majority of their funding comes from. I think Hunger Games was one of the YA dystopia movie and it did pretty well. As for the others you mentioned, I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:57 PM
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Female power fantasies are promoted in media Care to give me a couple of examples? Respectful doms agree that objectification isn't cool. True, but you're confusing the cause here. It's not that all women with domination kinks are "respectful doms" who refuse to objectify. It's just that most of the women don't have such active sexuality to begin with, so they don't think about objecifying men in media - they lack the gaze to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:21 PM
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Women dating younger men, weaker men, men below their own socio-economic status, promoting female power fantasies in media instead of male ones, thirsting after or discussing portrayal of male objectification....and so on and so forth. I know, I know, they aren't all conclusively related to domination kink in particular but they do point to an in general dominant sexuality, which almost all women lack.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:54 PM
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Nice strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:47 PM
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Ikr. The amount of people who think the world has always been a 1950's household is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:35 PM
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Position preferences are too mechanical. It's the power dynamics, the dominant vs submissive energies they respond to, the kind of online content they thirst on etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 04:32 PM
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They don't need to say it out loud. Their preferences can easily manifest in the types of people they date or the memes they share with us etc. I know exactly what kind of women each of my boys like, because of the kind of content we share online lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 04:31 PM
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That's true. Social structures do play a role in what fetishes develop in people. But it's more of what is prohibited by society than what's encouraged. For example more middle eastern submissive men have a foit fetish because their culture demands women cover their ankles.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 04:28 PM
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true
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 04:26 PM
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but for my man????? Yessssssssss. Good for you hun.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:40 PM
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Never seen a woman hesitate in broadcasting her preference for rich dudes or tall chads or sugar daddies though. Why is this preference an exception? Or is it that this isn't a real preference at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:39 PM
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lmao. Talking like Aristotle didn't let Phylis totally dominate and publicly humiliate him in 300 BC. Kinks have always been in the human soul, kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:25 PM
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Always a little sus when women say they enjoy dominating. Why don't I see these preferences expressed in real life? 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:23 PM
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A good question except for the fact that it's not "effecting" more and more men as society gets more kinky, it's just letting more and more men express what has already been there. We as men have always been more varied in our sexual interests than women by the virtue of "maleness". It's just that it wasn't fully expressed outside of gender roles or what was considered "normal" in earlier conservative societies - just like women couldn't openly admit that they had always been chadsexuals up unti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 03:18 PM
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I know, the stark sisters were not portayed as "hot" in the plot, which is understandable. I was just appreciating the actresses.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 01:02 PM
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Gonna take a lot of time and effort for a 4 to reach 7. But maybe I'll get there someday.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 12:00 PM
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women to zoom in on my ass, or my chest, or my arms or legs. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:48 AM
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Maybe true. But I'm not average height. Also I'm not white, or black. Also I can't work very very hard on looks because I'm not getting paid for that. Which is why it's not gonna happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:39 AM
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I know right? 😆 Both stark sisters were hot, but the world was too busy in blondes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:38 AM
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yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:18 AM
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Almost anyone can be a 7 or 8 Oh yeah? What number does one have to reach to have women start hitting on you based on just your looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:12 AM
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Well, that's just life when you're not a woman. FTFY One could be a non-celebrity woman and get the same reaction to her nudes. A non-celeb guy on the other hand 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:05 AM
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Kinda disappointed to see that new Maise Williams post. Not because it was bad, God knows it was so hot. But I also realized how there would be millions of guys who stopped scrolling, took a longer look, and even zoomed it on that.... which is again not wrong but I will never have ANY woman do the same to my pics. I can never go strolling about naked on a beach and have women trying to look at me, or stare, or zoom in on my pictures. Another reminder that my body will never be desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:55 AM
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Amen brother. May such women find me as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 10:51 AM
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Doesn't matter to me personally as long as she's really attracted to me and wants to jump my bones.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 05:11 PM
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For example, say a woman in her youth was hooking up with broke handsome dudes, maybe even had a kid by one. If that guy can't provide for her eventually she'll leave the guy. If later in life you see this same women dating an average looking Engineering nerd, her taste in men and what she finds physically attractive likely didn't change. What changed is she started to prioritize a stable guy who can be a good role model for her kids and help raise a family over her lust and physical preferences…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 07:53 PM
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oof! Such a disappointing thread. May such love never find me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:57 PM
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I thought the same but then I scrolled down and the last one was 9 days ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 01:15 PM
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Why was there no LOOKS discussion megathread last week?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 11:20 AM
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third
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 02:26 AM
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don’t engage in casual sex They don't count then. Because there is no way to ensure whether they are actually attracted to someone or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 09:20 AM
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And yes, those women find their men attractive. How are you so sure? People usually end up with people who are on their level. Yes they END UP there, not necessarily out of their own will. need to start going for options that are more feasible for you. Need to start going for women I'm NOT attracted to? What's the point of being with them then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 09:17 AM
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The result is the same. Both eat the burger if it is appealing The result is same in singular instances but it doesn't reflect the trend. When we are giving statements about trends and behaviour patterns then "both eat the burger" does not reflect the situation. That's what I am trying to explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:53 PM
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They are into THAT burger sure. And they eat the burger that they want, which is s good thing. But saying that they're into food is simply inaccurate in that case. Because Food consists of many many more things than just that burger. Even on a quantitative level, men are simply MORE into food than women are because they enjoy a significantly larger variety of dishes and actually pursue those dishes due to hunger.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:41 PM
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The claim is that women desire men. And that the desire has to be "built up". In my analogy, this claim is that women are foodies and are hungry but the hunger has to be build up by that particular high-end burger already being on the plate and smelling nice. While for men, the hunger is there first, i.e. the desire does not have to be built up. And that they appreciate all food and are not fixated on just one particular food item. So it is only right to say that men are into food, while women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 04:09 PM
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Idk what to say man. If I refused to eat anything at all except for that particular burger from that particular high-end restaurant and had no reaction to any other food items or varieties, I wouldn't call myself a foodie, would I? If hunger was only "built up" after seeing that burger on the plate and smelling it, I wasn't really hungry in the first place. Now if I constanty felt hungry and THEN saught out food - I'd call myself hungry. If I were happy to eat a variety of different dishes from …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:50 PM
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I know that it is hard to believe an internal process is true if you haven't experienced it yourself. And I am open to believe it that women don't experience attraction the same way or that they need more than just looks for it and all that. But that "different" attraction is not expressed in behaviours at all, which makes it a questionable claim. Again, in my previous comment, I did not say that women must experience desire the same way as men, I just pointed out that there are no outward exore…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 02:32 PM
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frustration comes from. observing and aknowledging general trends and behaviours is not frustration. And the assumption that women aren't attracted to men. Is majorly true. Again, refering to my first comment - if women were in general attracted to men, they would be approaching, hitting on, hooking up with and thirsting over average random guys. Doesn't happen. A niche community of young women listening to reenacted porn scenarios from smut does not disprove the general trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:55 PM
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They are. And the focus in the male oriented porn is the woman's body. Your point being?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 01:46 PM
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It can also be towards someone's face, or any other physical quality. But this fringe case of "booktok" does not represent women as a whole. That's for sure. And even in this case these women wouldn't be commented over these men if it was some random video of them speaking or singing. Their comments are triggered because those guys are basically reenacting porn for them, which proves nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:59 PM
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Random people on the internet blaming women? Such a great argument buddy. Here are my sources then. https://www.iza.org/publications/dp/2870/do-you-receive-a-lighter-prison-sentence-because-you-are-a-woman-an-economic-analysis-of-federal-criminal-sentencing-guidelines https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282774603_Sugar_and_Spice_and_All_Things_Nice_The_Role_of_Gender_Stereotypes_in_Jurors%27_Perceptions_of_Criminal_Defendants https://www.np.reddit.com/r/FragtMaenner/comments/1o9bc56/warum_w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:15 PM
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lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:15 PM
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Because they are still telling the men the sexual things they want to do with them. That's like saying catcalling random women on the street is the same as desiring them, which it's not. Neither is those "adults" telling those book readers and voice actors about their fantasies in comments. Because they are reacting to the story, not to the reader's naked body.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:14 PM
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Random people on the internet blaming women? Such a great argument buddy. Here are my sources then. https://www.iza.org/publications/dp/2870/do-you-receive-a-lighter-prison-sentence-because-you-are-a-woman-an-economic-analysis-of-federal-criminal-sentencing-guidelines https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282774603_Sugar_and_Spice_and_All_Things_Nice_The_Role_of_Gender_Stereotypes_in_Jurors%27_Perceptions_of_Criminal_Defendants https://www.np.reddit.com/r/FragtMaenner/comments/1o9bc56/warum_w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:11 PM
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I'm not talking about love here. Attraction at first sight is absolutely real though. I have been experiencing it since I was a teen.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:10 PM
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Yet you look around and plenty of average looking, average wage, fat dudes have good looking girlfriends. And I bet my balls that those average looking fat dudes don't get to feel desirable in their relationships as they would be the ones doing all the labour to keep their trophy wives interested in them. The bird who seeks out the worms gets the worm Good for them. I'm not a bird and I don't want a worm. I want partners that actually desire me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:50 AM
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evil feminists excusing womens shitty behaviour. We're not. You are talking about apparently evil incels excusing male behaviour. Please link all the comments from all over reddit to bank up your ridiculous claims and I might try to do the same. The discussion is about women not desiring men as much as men desire women. Please stay on topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:47 AM
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And dont say "kids" in this context. Why not? This tiktok subculture is mostly younger women (teens or early twenties). I don't count genZ among the adults. Its also average men doing voice acting and women going completely mental in their comment sections. So they are thirsting over someone's voice. Not their bodies. Again, how does that disprove my point? It's got nothing to do with women desiring men's bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:43 AM
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it takes more investment than just looking good Yes. For relationships, you have to be MORE in addition to looking good if you want to be desired. But most men don't even look good, or else they could get hook ups constantly. Which means that they don't qualify the first criteria to be attractive. Every woman I have ever been in a relationship with desired me, it just wasn't instantaneous. Happy for you, big guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:40 AM
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We need a word for that "women's opinion" is a good enough word.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:21 AM
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That's just some kids talking about fictional men in smut. idk what you want to prove here?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:17 AM
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These are sources of people marrying for convenience instead of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:14 AM
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These women will be affected. Yes but these women don't matter in the grand scheme of things anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:14 AM
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I am bi. I had the choice. I am wildly attracted to my husband. I read a statistic long ago that said that bi women AND bi men are visually more attracted to women but both groups eventually end up with men for long term relationships. Just proves that even though most people are actually attracted to women, it's much more easier to date men for some reason. So your case proves nothing but the fact that it's more convenient to be with a man than a woman. men that dont experience attraction from …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:11 AM
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Most men are not, were never desired by women anyway. So I don't believe that it would affect women en-masse if majority of men chose to decenter women in their lives. The only person who it will benefit is the man doing the decentering. Because he will eventually be much happier than he is now, chasing women and failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 11:02 AM
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Dead bedrooms, divorce rates, unattractive people getting married and having children. Arranged marriages, people marrying for tax benefits etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:55 AM
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so, all other characteristics aside, higher voices do make men unattractive, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:30 AM
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We don’t have to be attracted to men, because we’re not FTFY Thanks for confirming.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:28 AM
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In that case, women who become mistresses of these "alpha-minded" married men are betas themselves. So they don't count. Problem solved!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:27 AM
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Feminist groups don’t excuse shitty behaviour from woman, Is that so? "what did he do make her commit that crime?" "she must have been in distress/be forced by a man" These are the most common femist reactions in cases if female-on-male DV or murder cases. Women's harmful mindset and behaviours are termed as "internalized misogyny" instead of misandry. I could go on and on to explain how feminist ideology is just another religion, but that's a separate debate. Most men are married, and most men …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:25 AM
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who are not very beta-minded? So any man with morals and self respect is "beta-minded" in your dictionary, so that you can conveniently dismiss them and focus on cheaters? I don't smell good faith in this argument tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:18 AM
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That's what desire means in the context of dating/relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:17 AM
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I've known at least two women in a situation like this and I don't know too many people. Says something about the kind of people you hang out with. Married men who are above average and are not very beta almost all have side chicks. So "all men cheat"? Yeah sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:14 AM
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Because they blame “female nature” for when some women do shitty things, but when a man does the same or worse, they also blame her for not choosing So.... the same as feminist groups, but the genders reversed? lol. You can't waste your energy and thought on hate groups y'know. What they use to blame women is not relevant here. What is relevant is do women not feel and think differently than men in some aspects? Does female sexuality not function differently than male sexuality? Reality doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:11 AM
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women's desire for men is based on their own need for attention It is. Female sexuality is more narcissistic in general. Which is why women "need" to feel desired by their partners to get going. While men have rarely been the objects of desire but that doesn't deter them from having sex So many women become some married man's mistress. People are dumb and do dumb shit. Women are people. women are viscerally attracted to like 1% of guys There you go. You admitted it yourself. This visceral attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:05 AM
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dehumises women as beings that can’t think and feel the same as men why would thinking and feeling differently from men dehumanise women? Does women's attraction work exactly like men's attraction? And does that difference imply that women are not human?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 09:57 AM
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"Mamaaaa" 🎶
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 08:31 AM
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Pursuing is for chumps. I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:18 AM
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That's true. From the way people treat you subtly to your chances of being promoted at jobs, things like voice, height etc do have a direct impact. And I have kinda made peace with the fact that I would not be respected/admired as much as someone who has these 'masculine' qualities. I don't wanna be a Team Lead or a corporate boss either. But I do want to know if voice makes someone unattractive, just so that I don't end up with a woman who isn't really attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:08 AM
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How important is a heavy voice in attraction? I mean every description of an attractive man, every fantasy of women has the man with a low 'masculine' voice. Right? Men with higher pitched voices, what has been your experience? Have women ever complimented your voice? or has it always been something you compensate with other qualities? (please no married guys with "my wife loves my voice uwu")
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 11:33 PM
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In the same way the majority people fall for religion. When you instill some values within little children on a large social scale, they usually grow up not questioning those narratives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:44 PM
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the trend is that more men turning to that rhetoric. I agree. There are many trends of people turning to dangerous rhetorics and being radicalized. But I think that worrying about it is pointless. The most we can do individually is to not be radicalized ourselves and keep our social circles in check, whether it be about gender, or religion or anything else. A small scale change. On the bright side, it's easy to find good men. Too easy. I'm surrounded by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:43 PM
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something that we value so much we stopped doing unless we wanted to and it takes a lot to make us want to. Exactly. I always advocate for this shift in mindset to my bros and fellow men. I just wish you focused on yourselves instead of bitterly hating women for bucking the trends. Access to sex is so much more important to men than freedom that you'd rather drag us back underneath you rather than join us. Yep, that's how it is with some men. But they're probably all leaning more towards the con…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 05:21 PM
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Men have always taken pride in their own "subjugation" as you call it. While women see their duties as daughters, sisters, friends, mothers, wives as "unpaid labour" and oppression, trying to be free from them and shunning social conditioning (rightfully so) to fight the "Patriarchy" Men have always been foollishly proud to be cannon fodder in pointless wars, to win "glory" or "respect" of the society. They have been proud to be "protectors and providers", to put 'women and children first' in da…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 04:55 PM
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I have been called funny by my friends a lot. But it's a strict no for the other 2 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:54 PM
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Their heads probably. bonk
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 09:19 AM
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You might as well start calling your chihuahua a wolf.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 09:17 AM
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If you call that attracted then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 09:07 AM
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I thought men you were wrong Either you are attractive enough to have sex or not. That's kind of true. But my understanding is different. I think that genuine attraction is when they are attracted enough to have casual sex with no other benefits involved. All the other kinds of attraction that you have to "build" still exist. But they're more a combination of emotional attachment and familiarity where your partner becomes open to the 'idea' of sex with you. Having sex with someone you arent attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 08:51 AM
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not attracted to at all not Genuinely attracted. They could be somewhat attracted. Attracted enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 08:33 AM
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Nope. They aren't chads. They had to "build attraction" one way or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 08:32 AM
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Hope it does. Too many illegals here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:48 PM
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Have them. But it's not as fun as europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:45 PM
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Only if women were attracted to shorter men. but alas.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:36 PM
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And compromise my career and lifestyle? just for dating? XD Also no, the options back at home are not gonna be good either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:35 PM
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Apparently German women don't want you. I know. Well, date your own kind. Gonna stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:06 PM
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🦥
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:05 PM
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Nothing's "wrong" with them per se. It's just that most of the ones I know and meet are too traditional/conservative for my tastes. Also I find european features aethetically more pleasing, so I feel like it'd be unfair to someone of my ethnicity if I settled for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:03 PM
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Indian, 169.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 11:02 PM
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Might be true. I don't know what ethnicity you are I'm a brown guy. And as far as I understand, no one prefers that. Maybe some conservative brown women who would want a partner of similar cultural values, but no one else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:37 PM
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That's the problem. It never happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:35 PM
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That's understandable. Most of the people in my experience also lrefer to date someone with the same cultural background
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:35 PM
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Kinda wanna date the local girls in Germany but I know that I'm not the preferred ethnicity and also I don't find women of my own ethnicity attractive lmao. I guess Imma stay single 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:04 PM
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We cannot make women attracted to us if they are not. Yes, the society feeds you just world fallacies to keep you complacent. But it is your own responsibility to find the truth, or if already found - to accept it as such and move on. Most women are not, will not and never were attracted to most men. And only chads get to experience being the objects of true female desire probably. But that's how the world works. You can either stay disgruntled at women, society, feminism over this .... or focus…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 07:50 PM
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See how no one came to debate this post? That's because there's nothing to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:30 PM
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Sexuality is an integral part of human/animal nature. There is nothing inherently good or evil in it. Yes, society has tried to make female sexuality as "corrupting" and male sexuality as "immoral/violent/harmful" and what not, but it is simply a means to control the masses. The first step is to stop listening to what society or men or women of feminist or patriarchs say. The second step is to forgive yourself and accept yourself as you are, complete with all those sexual desires and wants and f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 02:26 PM
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not coddling him. Why even date men with such hostility in your heart? Just get a dog instead. It'll be devoted and loyal to you. It could not pay for your meals though, so that could be a problem for you 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:47 AM
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Because i want him to desire me enough to pay for a date. how does he know that you desire him enough if you'd not even pay for a date though?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:23 AM
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Well why should he? You're dating him. You should pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:12 AM
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you could do it then, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:08 AM
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So you'd rather have a man on a leash?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:46 AM
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lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:45 AM
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You could always get a dog if you want complete devotion, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:34 AM
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That's understandable lol. As a guy I feel the same. I have some other reservations too depending on what field the woman graduated in, but that comes later.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 10:13 PM
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I gotta spread the good news to the other 3 guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:39 PM
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Haha, I could believe if a woman said she prefers Jason momoa. I would give you a delta if I could.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:14 PM
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I don't know their education levels. Tbh I was surprised that you know the education level of Henry lol. I had to look them all up and apparently, the most educated of them is Hugh (BA and PrDiploma) and then Jason (studied marine biology at university level). All others (including Cavill) didn't study after highschool. So yes, there definitely are many who brake that stereotype of yours. They certainly aren't the men who come to mind when I think of intelligence, especially the Chrises They sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:12 PM
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Hugh Jackman, all the three Chris'es, Jason Momoa. Are you saying they're all less educated/dumb?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:01 PM
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Who is the Witcher aimed at, good sir? Gamer nerds is the answer. You're forgetting that's the body type men like and want to self insert onto. Ah shit. I didn't consider that before making this point. My bad lol. Dad bod is being sporty and muscular with a little extra at the middle. It's just not lean. So, like Jason Momoa on an off-season? Is this the definition of dadbod that women refer to when they say they prefer it in any debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 08:58 PM
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The guys cutting down a weight class are lean, but they're often in an unhealthy state. True, but when it comes to visual attractiveness, the state being unhealthy or unsustainable is hardly ever a question. Remember how Henry Cavill had to dehydrate himself for that bathtub scene in Witcher? That was definitely unhealthy but it was still aesthetically more pleasing than NOT having visible abs. Or else they wouldn't have done that scene. I'd sort of believe him too is the thing I don't wanna be …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 07:35 PM
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I'm impressed by the things he did as a body builder, gee that's a lot to lift....but it's not hot in the way watching my husband throw a hay bail over his shoulder is hot. I understand your pov. It's just that I never see these two things as separate. So this thought process is alien to me. It's just like how women here say that looking at a visually attractive man is like looking at a beautiful painting or something but it doesn't inspire sexual attraction - such a weird concept (respectfully)…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 05:04 PM
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That's true as well. "I'm into dad bods" shows picture of off season Jason Momoa.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:30 AM
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something being impressive isn't the same as it being attractive. This sounds like destinction without a difference. I mean why give two different tags to something that has the same effect? A physical quality that is impressive is also attractive..because it is impressive. I would wager more women prefer a dad bod and acceptably like a lean, but not roid body. Yep. I think this is where we disagree. I would wager that if most of those women in question are fit themselves and young, they would p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:29 AM
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I know right? 😆😆
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 09:22 AM
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Thanks. I was just pointing out that since cope explains a lot of behavior/beliefs, it’s disallowed True, it can be the root cause of so many opinions here. I guess the most obvious root causes (cope, looks, race etc) are disallowed in debates on this sub because then debates would be over too soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:24 AM
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Sometimes I feel the need to overexplain on this sub. Lol. happens a lot in debate subs like this. I understand. That wasn't something I thought about back then, I just usually went for men who were my type (which would be the "strong dad bod.") Understandable. Thanks for your honest input!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 11:02 PM
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I'm pretty sure Chris Williamson just had a researcher on that confirmed the body type you're describing impresses dudes, not ladies. Not sure if this is believable or not. Yes, statistics would agree that dudes would see that as a "peak male physique" but you can't say that it "doesn't impress the ladies" if not enough ladies participated in the first place. And I'm not talking about the professional body-builder types, just lean/atheletic physiques. Swimmers build if you must. O o most of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:58 PM
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I'm relatively fit (thin and flexible) and was even more fit when I was younger. I do yoga/pilates and go on hikes frequently. I never doubted that those who reply to my comment would be fit. You didn't need to describe your body, but I still appreciate it. Also, most men are the same way. At my lowest weight in my early 20s, I definitely lost some curves (even though I was quite fit). I received A LOT more male attention after gaining 10 pounds and getting my butt and hips back. I also looked h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:48 PM
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Not sure if you agree or disagree with my point bruh. But have my upvote anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:08 PM
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They're usually less educated. Oof, that's on the same line as thinking all blondes are dumb. Talk about stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:06 PM
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Okay, so your preferences as an individual don't fit my statement. How many other fit gym girlies do you know that prefer dad bods OVER fit/lean guys? Amd I'm not asking about women who are already married, I'm asking about single (mostly young) women who date around.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:05 PM
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I am almost almost sure that women who say they prefer "dadbods" or chubby guys are chubby/fat themselves and only have this preference to protect their own egos. Call it "compatibility" or "lifestyle choice" but if these same women were slim/atheletic they wouldn't look twice at a guy who has a bit of fat or isn't in the typical V-taper.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:45 PM
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Every religion needs a big bad "Satan" to fight against. Both of these - God and Satan, are mythical, but that's just how religion works. How else are they going to scare the crowds into following them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 09:04 PM
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She can't. Or else she won't have anything to post.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 01:28 PM
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idk man. When women say they are happier single, I believe them. I believe that they are happy living their single life and dating men is a chore for them, which is why they expect to be compensated for it. Consequently, the "dating issues" women have are just lamentations of a spoiled rich kid who doesn't really need or want what they're asking for. When women say they have trouble finding good men, it's because they don't really want to find a partner and are happy as they are. Their complaint…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 08:34 PM
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You can't just decide that everyone who pursues happiness is going to do it exactly in the way you want them to so you have to consider what happens when the bad people do it too That's true. It is not my place to decide how someone pursues their happiness or whether they do it the way I imagined it or not. BUT the best I can do is suggest people to explore the idea, so that they might at least start thinking in that direction. My example could be about an AI researcher that feels internal fulfi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 12:34 PM
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Because women who are assertive and confident enough to approach men they like are hot. In fact the hottest thing a woman can do is to approach me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 12:13 PM
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Ah, I see what's happening here. You can't think of pursuing happiness and self fulfillment in a more long-term, holistic sense, so you mind automatically goes to people committing crime in order to achieve whatever "feels good" to them. I'm not talking about the Purge here buddy. Think about seeing beyond what people and society has brainwashed you to see. Think what lies beyond good and evil, outside of moral values and social obligations and religions. Think about looking inwards for validati…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:28 PM
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because the individuals supposed to take care of them just kind of stopped True. The machine that is built by mindless crowds would cease to exist if crowds stopped being crowds and became individuals. race to the bottom That's your subjective opinion. I'm not willing to die so that you can feel more personally accomplished for 2 months. A worthy sacrifice lol. But on a serious note, if you die just because someone stops being a mindless drone and seeks out self fulfillment, was your life really…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 10:13 AM
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Because women are encouraged to "give the man a chance." This is the most pitiful demand I have come across on reddit because a) Why should anyone be with someone he/she isn't attracted to or compatible with? and b) what self-respecting guy would want to be "given a chance" when he knows that the woman doesn't really want to be with him? It's an impossible position to be in. Only if you give their opinions any weightage. But honestly, the people who expect you to do something for them, while bla…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 06:18 PM
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I think that men's unhappiness is due to their own choices and it's wrong to be blaming women and expecting women to solve this for them. I agree with you. My dissatisfaction is because I expect more effort from men than what I see them putting into relationships. I'm happy that you realised that. And I'm sure you wouldn't be that frustrated or annoyed by men as some of the PPD women here seem to be. Just not sure why you have separated those out. Just to get responses like this. lol. But on a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 09:03 AM
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I believe that half the tragedies would be solved if people focused more on becoming happy themselves instead of trying to change the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:59 AM
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Collective responsiblity for you as an individual comes in when you need to live in harmony with the society and with other individuals. But that comes after you make yourself happy, because a house that is filled with rotten food cannot spread any fragrances in the neighborhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:58 AM
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That's exactly what I think as well. They are afraid of the masses being united against the ruling class, but more specifically they wouldn't want men to unite against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 08:55 AM
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Everyone's happiness is their personal responsibility. It is only your right to see to it that you are enjoying your life. The women who are unhappy with dating and their relationships are so out of their own choices. It is their problem and no one else's. No matter how much they blame men or the society. The men who are unhappy in dating are so because they expect more from women, from life than what they are getting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 12:40 AM
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Most women don't really have any dating issues, except for "too many options teehee". Those who have men "using them" for sex are definitely picking men on shallow basis and then complaining because those men also did the same. Any woman who is self aware likely never faces such problems. Which is why I think only male dating issues are worth discussing here as they are the only ones outside of men's control (at least partially), while women's issues are completely within their control and they …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 09:00 PM
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Internalised misandry has always been present in men of all cultures in all times. The society makes sure that men internalise this hate towards others so that these men can be used for the ulterior motives like wars, control, fear, revolts and so on and so forth. The real problem is that people don't even want to aknowledge that misandry exists, let alone internalised misandry. Why? because existance of a fundamental hatred towards men would mean that women don't have the exclusive rights to vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 08:55 PM
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lol. I did think it sounded wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:56 PM
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"just be better then your competition and you win" that logic only partially works in Dating. Correct. Most men don't realise that once you defeat the competition and 'become better', the race might have ended but what they assumed to be the prize - the woman - now becomes the player in a 1v1 chess. Most men think the game ends once they beat the other men. They don't realize that you have to beat the woman as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:32 PM
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Are you blind not to notice others doing so? That's their personal choice if they want someone to settle for them. I don't speak for them. And why do their opinions matter in this particular situation? Or you're just ready to rip a woman when she does? Are you implying that you took the advice of some random PPD men and made your life choices based on that? Are you that gullible to suggestions by random strangers? I thought women were capable of independent thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 01:07 PM
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You know men aren't a monolith, right ? I never asked anyone to give anyone a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 11:32 AM
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You are engaging in wild speculation without any data or knowledge. Her comments are enough data and knowledge to conclude how low she thinks of the "nice guys" she "gave a chance" to. Why did she even do that if she was not attracted to that man? What was she trying to prove? and to whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:06 PM
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Women get criticism for everything. All the time. Women already suffer enough for not only their choices but also men's choices. So... just like men? Cool. We're all in the same boat then.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 01:00 PM
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Horrifying if you think about it. not as horrifying as ending up with a woman who thinks she's "giving you a chance". were you there I don't need to be there to figure it out from the way you speak about him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 12:19 PM
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But the question is why? That's because you treated that connection as charity, as if you're doing him a favour. You didn't actually try to connect with the guy, to love or appreciate him or to be thankful. You were resenting him the whole time while trying to prove how "good and forgiving" you are, which you aren't. That's why it failed. I hope you understand now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 12:12 PM
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I know right? I get a feeling that all women here purposedly argue in bad faith. We should just have discussions among men at this point if we want it to be constructive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 12:09 PM
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They only pick women to approach by superficial markers That might be because humans cannot read the character of a person from just looking at them across the bar. What they can look at is, well , looks. So that's what they HAVE to go by. Men will get married to the hottest woman they can get A wise man once sang - "If you want to be happy, living a king's life, never make a pretty woman your wife." Women should be allowed to do the same. But women already are allowed to make stupid choices. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 12:08 PM
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give a nice guy a chance That's the wrong way to go. You give "nice guy" a "chance" as if you did him a favour. Of course you failed to form a relationship there. The men women actually end up with are Are just like every other man. But prettier, taller, richer etc. The women who end up with those men don't come here complaining. Because they ended up with men in their league. The ones who fail are those who batted higher than their leagues and when those 'chads' just exercised their options - a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 12:03 PM
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Nope. I don't think it's cool or cringe. I just think it's a personal preference to avoid unnecessary drama and mess that's caused after eventually breaking up with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 05:10 PM
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I have a personal rule to not hit on anyone in my friends circle, or colleagues, or mutual friends. The women I have any kind of arrangement with should not know my friends. It's easier to fuck it up, leave, or ghost that way without drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 04:05 PM
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So… a shrinking middle class is probably just a return to all of us being serfs. chuckles in panic It's probably a repeating pattern, like a swinging pendulum.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:23 PM
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Learned from the likes of you ;) Happy whining!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 12:18 PM
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Mhm. I'm sorry for not being as skilled in oppression olympics as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 12:14 PM
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What is the point of bringing up the miniscule upper class? True. Upper class were mostly just a minority. That would be like someone 100 years from now arguing that, "sure people were poor, but there were also people like Elon Musk, so people couldn't have been that bad off" Did you read the whole thread or are you just angrily commenting rn? Because I just agreed with the other guy that lower classes were statistically more egalitarian out of necessity. Because both men and women had to labour…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 12:13 PM
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Lol, the value of dowry literally depends upon the qualifications, job profile and caste of the groom. It's a literal monetary evaluation of the guy. So no, I twisted nothing. The whole dowry system is fucked up but this feminist insistance of only acknowledging women as the victims is dumb at best and malicious at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 12:08 PM
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Glad to see someone with a nuanced and historically accurate opinion. Likewise :) Okay, "treated like cattle" was too strong a word. I will agree with you on this. That's fine. It's fun to use triggering language here to catch attention. I feel like doing that sometimes lol. Actually on this one I disagree, gender divide is reinforced in higher classes and lower in poorer classes, because at this point everybody only care that you have 2 legs and 2 arms to work the fields. Ah. Yep, this makes mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 11:11 AM
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If that's what you meant then we agree Yep, that's what I meant. But I also wanted to disagree with your statement about women being treated like cattle because it's just too generalized to be an accurate description of how arranged marriages worked. Because the more upper class we move towards, the smaller the gender divide becomes, because people of the family become more educated and flexible in attitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 11:05 AM
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man in the couple has all the social and legal power Well that depends on the time and location. An arranged marriage within the lower class would have the man with like 2 more rights than the woman. A woman of an upper class, in the same society would have more social and legal power than that bride, groom and the groom's dad. So it's more of a class thing than a gender thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:55 AM
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Please work on your reading comprehension, buddy. I said it's literally other way around. The woman's parents pay the man's parents to buy the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:37 AM
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Do you know what a dowry is? The girl's parents literally set a price to pay in the marriage, they negotiate it with the guy's parents. It's the guy whose price is being discussed, as if he were cattle. Also, neither the bride nor the groom get a say in arranged marriages. They're both pawns.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 10:32 AM
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The feminist position has never been about putting the child's interest first. It was always about the woman's personal interest. The child was and will always be an excuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 07:52 PM
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