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Steve Harvey is probably the biggest hypocrite on the planet. Dude cheats on every wife, then has the nerve to tell people how live their lives. I can't stand that scumbag.
/r/MGTOW201/01/20 02:15 AM
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No one would sign up for that class. The person taking that class would have to be humble enough to admit that they need help improving and that they have a want to improve themselves. Most women think they are already fantastic, so to say that she should have to improve herself for men is insulting to her. Secondly, she doesn't want to improve herself in this regard because she doesn't see any benefit. Why should she improve herself? She has plenty of dudes treating her like a celebrity for put…
/r/MGTOW201/01/20 01:56 AM
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He's in a special category of people that are remarkable but I would never want to hang out with. He's been known to get piss-stinking drunk and smack his gf around. As a writer, he's fantastic. As a person, he was a total piece of shit.
/r/MGTOW230/12/19 11:29 PM
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Depressive realism. The notion that depressed folks are in fact accurate in their assessment of life and non-depressed people are either living a life worth living or are entirely delusional.
/r/MGTOW230/12/19 03:33 PM
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I'm all for positivity but I have trouble separating the art from the artist with Bukowski. His poem "Go all the way" really spoke to me. I've derived so much meaning from his works and for that I am grateful. I loved his poetry so much that I learned as much as I could about him, maybe he figured out a life worth living and I could use his biography as a rough guide toward my own self-actualization. Bukowski was a brilliant troubled man that no one should emulate. It doesn't mean that what he w…
/r/MGTOW230/12/19 03:21 PM
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To be fair, Dwight is the kind of person that is so obnoxious that you can't help but mess with him. But I agree, Jim would've had his ass handed to him in the real world.
/r/MGTOW230/12/19 01:53 PM
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I really like the episode where Jim and Michael are in different companies and they're competing for a big account. Jim doesn't take Michael as a serious competitor (Michael is a goofball, that puts his foot in his mouth often). So Jim is all smug about the situation. Nope, Michael has twice as much sales experience as Jim and clinches the account. It puts things in perspective, Jim is the guy that does the bare minimum easily and he thinks that he could be the best if he just tried. But that's …
/r/MGTOW230/12/19 01:42 PM
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I'm definitely guilty of this. Now I look at self-described introverts as socially-lazy people
/r/MGTOW229/12/19 02:34 PM
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It's just a silly thought that I wanted to explore... nothing to give actual credence to
/r/MGTOW229/12/19 11:10 AM
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Yeah he flys under the radar
/r/MGTOW229/12/19 03:35 AM
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You're totally right, if tomorrow the world changed into a feminist wet-dream then the conversation would be about how men aren't good enough. It's a lose-lose situation. Men winning = women oppressed Men losing = men losers And this really goes back to something I think is very true, when I have a problem it is my problem. When women have a problem it is society's problem. Understanding this has made me bitter and angry but I think I am getting over that now. I think understanding that I fail o…
/r/MGTOW228/12/19 09:12 PM
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I have to remind myself that it's not my job to save her. If she was gunna (go to school, get a better job, work more hours, etc...), she would have already, but she didn't, so she won't. I learned this the hard way trying to get my ex overweight partner to have a healthier lifestyle, permanent change comes from within.
/r/MGTOW224/12/19 10:07 PM
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Half the fun of cooking is the preparation. I love having a sunday cooking project, it doesn't always workout great but that's how we learn! My next big purchase is a smoker!
/r/MGTOW224/12/19 12:58 PM
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Do that and treat yourself to some proper garlic mashed potatoes.
/r/MGTOW224/12/19 12:54 PM
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Yeah I should have clarified on the math more but the formula works if you consider a low score good, like golf. It's probably suppose to be reality over expectations but the point is the two are related to each other in some way with happiness. This explains why narcissists are the most miserable people, their expectations for themselves completely dwarf the reality that is presented toward them.
/r/MGTOW223/12/19 03:20 PM
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I don't consider myself as a HL person but the idea that someone can just shut the other person out is terrible. And this seems to be the norm! Even if my D didn't work I would try whatever to get my partner off. And I've experienced the post-6-month drought where she just isn't interested in sex anymore, like what? How can someone screw your brains out everyday for the first 3 months and then slowly taper off to once a month then to once every 3 months. It's insane how messed up it is to not do…
/r/MGTOW223/12/19 12:26 PM
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I wish we as a society would reevaluate what a single mom is, it's so bizarre that they are celebrated. I feel like a single mom should be viewed as an unemployed man; maybe their situation is a consequence of bad choices or bad luck and this alone doesn't make them a bad person but regardless it's certainly nothing worth celebrating and of course it's unattractive to the opposite sex. Prediction: women college graduates are outnumbering men, eventually single women will give a significant amoun…
/r/MGTOW223/12/19 12:06 PM
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Honestly i'm so starved for female affection I probably would be ok with a clingy chick lol I know, I know, these are just feelings and they will pass. 😧
/r/MGTOW222/12/19 04:35 PM
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I get why she wants what she wants. My thing is why is she so oblivious to the other party in this contract? Why can't she put herself in my shoes? Like I was selling a bed online, originally bought for $400. Used it for a year and had to move. I listed the price as $100 thinking that was fair and I'd help to move it. In my head, I could see someone was going to haggle down to $75 and I was ok with that maybe even $50 if they responded quickly and showed up on time. So two different people offer…
/r/MGTOW222/12/19 04:29 PM
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I think once enough successful cohabitators raise children. I hope to be one of them. I envision a world where two people live together, raise a family, reach retirement age and then get married to avoid some legal drudgery with a sick or dead spouse. In this way, I would be totally fine with giving my wife everything because at that point she deserves it, marriage should be a reward. I also think common-law marriage will be pushed big time so I'll have my gf "pay her rent" (which may be like $2…
/r/MGTOW222/12/19 03:01 PM
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What do you mean by "...always create a mammoth that is to be had..." Their heavy dependence on external validation stops them from understanding why their morals are what they are? "I am good because I get X when I am good"? Are you saying men have to be the moral anchor?
/r/MGTOW222/12/19 02:47 PM
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I thought it was stupid when that movie Don John talked about women over-indulging in their "porn" romance movies. But now i'm not so sure, maybe they were really on to something. I'm seriously considering only dating women from low-income backgrounds because their expectations seem reasonable. I don't mind playing the dating game, I just don't want to break the bank.
/r/MGTOW222/12/19 02:33 PM
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Holy fucking shit... This explains so much, not just women, but people in general.
/r/MGTOW22/12/19 12:10 PM
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They don't see themselves as someone who could be duped. They see the women being duped as victims when the guy is just doing what works. They will ascribe bad behavior as good behavior, so in their mind "he's not so bad" I've seen arrogant, tactless, selfish men being described as confident, bold, and ambitious by both men and women. It seems like reality doesn't matter until it slaps them in the face. It's an idiot's epiphany. "Oh wow the felon beat you, what a shocker!" "Gee whiz the guy who …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/12/19 12:17 PM
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Lol that's the answer to most of our woes
/r/MGTOW213/12/19 06:50 PM
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I might change my perspective on marriage once I find a lifestyle and income that can't be exploited, also the possibility of a woman (that i'm attracted to) being on that same wavelength. Or I guess if I got stinkin' rich. But i'm a short, balding, uninteresting loser. I'm not fit for this darwin test. I never stopped wanting a family. I still fantasize about waking up early on Saturday and making my wife and kids breakfast while educating them on classic rock and dancing goofy. I still think a…
/r/MGTOW213/12/19 06:38 PM
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It's funny I have a friend that worked as a barista in Austin after getting her public relations degree. She was so onboard with Bernie, socialism, "the government needs to fix <insert problem>" It was all about fairness! Everything should be fair! Until she got married to a decently wealthy guy and started having kids. It was a slow progression but I can look at her facebook and see how she went from "this is our problem" to "that is your problem". Her husband probably sat her down and showed h…
/r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre13/12/19 01:06 PM
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Some of them will get burned out on those things and start looking at their older coworkers who are miserable. Once they have that epiphany it's game-on. Some won't and will be fine with their situation, because forcing/shaming them to succeed will just make them unhappy.
/r/MGTOW212/12/19 11:17 AM
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Ding ding ding we have a winner! Working hard for wife = fullfilling. Working hard for yourself = selfish.
/r/MGTOW212/12/19 11:12 AM
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It seems like when you're not following the worn path people assume that you are a waste of space. I can only speak for myself when I say that avoiding relationships has made me laser focused on my goals, which happen to be things that make my community a better place. Focusing on what is self-actualizating for me has ironically made me a better citizen and helped me embrace people. I feel like the grinch whose heart has finally grown. I have "manned up" and ready to be a positive force. I'm jus…
/r/MGTOW212/12/19 11:08 AM
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Fair enough. Also yeah still somewhat stuck in the rage/depression phase. On an intellectual level I understand the redpill, i've even experienced it (good and bad) first hand. But on an emotional level yeah i'm not there yet and I there's a chance I may never be. It's funny because with the redpill analogy some guys see themselves as neo and maybe later morpheus freeing others. But nah man i'm cypher, I'd gladly take the bluepill if I could un-know what I know. But I can't. I know the steak isn…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/12/19 01:31 AM
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I've been in this situation back when I was broke. I'd agreed to a fwb situation even though I was so depressed it was just something to do. I found that I was disgusted with myself because I could tell she wanted more. But I was also too much of a coward to let her go because I was afraid to be alone. So from the outside, it looked like I was some redpill wizard playing this girl but really I was an emotional mess. I bet something similar happens with OP's fwb.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/12/19 01:50 AM
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As much as people make it sound like this guy is winning, I bet he knows that even the unattached sex is not fullfilling, which makes him more aloof, which makes her want him more. I don't see this as a win for anyone involved. Sure the guy gets to nut, but he probably feels gross afterwards. And I guess I have that perspective after going through something similar. Instead of redpill rage, you have an epiphany that some chicks are just way too damaged and we have a society that will condone the…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/12/19 01:33 AM
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Yeah there is a stark difference in a girl who is into you and one that is just going through the motions. The sad part is that this guy being emotionally unavailable is what makes him attractive. If he began being emotionally invested in her she would probably lose attraction to him. Not saying every woman is like that but probably a considerable amount. I'm willing to bet she has a messed up relationship with her dad. I think this girl has enough self-awareness to know that this situation is n…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/12/19 12:02 AM
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I was a libertarian since I heard the word politics. It makes sense. And being a libertarian makes sense when you're making 25k a year because your money doesn't really go toward anything, you just get a refund. But as life unraveled, I saw opportunity and a system that would foster my ambition and so I threw myself into an idea knowing that 0.5% of businesses succeed. Well now I make 100k and more is asked of me. My libertarian self screams "live and let live" But the governmemt demands I parti…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/12/19 04:18 PM
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That's what i'm sayin'
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/12/19 04:02 PM
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Man... we need to create a tier list because I can't imagine tyrone going after her. I think some chicks really have no radar for losers. I mean, I envision Chad or Tyrone as guys who get by on their looks, have crummy personalities and rarely are confronted about their selfish behavior. But for the most part, chad and Tyrone could easily be sales manager because they are attractive and charismatic, maybe funny. I can't imagine Tyrone going after her. I imagine a dude with one attractive trait (…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/12/19 03:42 PM
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Don't drink. Never use online dating. Don't get a bio degree, get an associate's degree and start working. Finish your bachelor's while working. Lift like your life depends on it, because it does. Have enough money to walk away from a shit job and terrible people. Mom is wrong. Dad is wrong. They have no idea how the job market works now. Almost all of your entry-level work environments are toxic. Practicing medicine is a well-paying trap and most people hate their job. Party girls are not your …
/r/MGTOW201/12/19 01:17 PM
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I don't want to burst your bubble but every pretty girl is told she is not boring or dumb like the other pretty girls. You got played, but it's easy to play someone that is conceited.
/r/seduction30/11/19 07:56 PM
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Go for it. I can't really form a solid argument because so much of what I have experienced is a feeling. I wish that whenever a 5' girl asks for a 6' bf someone asks her why, not in a condescending or combative tone. Why does she really need a male to be 12 inches taller than her? And if that's what she needs, how does she know that? Because like I need a female figure, but I'm not asking for an hourglass bombshell, all I really need is a femine frame which coincidently is enough for 95% of wome…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/11/19 12:50 AM
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Jesus christ. You couldn't make me touch an EE book. I wanted to eat a bullet in physics (the easier physics for bio people).
/r/MGTOW225/11/19 03:50 PM
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I guess I was looking for more practical advice (like things I can actually do) and not a slogan or a pep-talk. But that probably is all there is to it. Gracias
/r/MGTOW225/11/19 10:10 AM
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That's probably the most depressing part there's not going to be consequences for someone being this shallow. She will find that guy that fits her poorly made checklist and that will be it. And people on reddit will shout "preferences" like her preferences are this innate, unshakable truth. The truth is that there's tons of chicks out there who have no clue what will make them happy so they cling to other women's standards. And to call out that maybe some women are bad at picking an actually com…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/11/19 09:01 AM
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College was awful for me. Struggled to maintain a 3.8 in biology. Like seriously considered suicide because I was studying 6 hours a day. Crippling lonliness. Professors were fucking assholes. You just teach yourself. Everyone cheated in school and relationships. I know doctors now who cheated in every pre-med course. Too broke to do anything fun except play pool and drink keystone. I absolutely hated college. The whole system is a giant scam.
/r/MGTOW225/11/19 08:30 AM
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Probably one of the greatest things I learned is that some people are bullies because they see you as a threat. It was hard for me to see that before because I had such low self-esteem. I remember a guy who would constantly make comments about my height (which yeah I was and probably always will be sensitive about). I found out later that I was out-performing him by quite a lot and gained the promotion he was gunning for. So now I see petty adult bullying as a sign of "I am a threat to this pers…
/r/MGTOW224/11/19 07:28 PM
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Yeah they sign my paycheck, or they can heavily influence my paycheck. I'm not trying to "win" per se. Sometimes shit just happens. I just know that life is only going to become more stressful and I want to have the temperament to endure it. Some of the goals that I have i'm certain will involve more stress and i'm ok with that. I'm not looking to intimidate or win an argument with a bully. I'm looking to make better choices and judgements in times of high stress
/r/MGTOW224/11/19 07:18 PM
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Honestly 30s and 40s sound way better than 20s and i'm looking forward to it. I don't understand the hype of 20s, college was tough, entry-level job was demoralizing, the women are incredibly entitled. Spent most of my 20s broke. All friends moved apart. Even though I have money now, I'm still very frugal. 20s just seem to be the decade of "fuck you, this is life, now deal with it" Older women usually seem to come at things in a more egalitarian way, at least from what I've experienced.
/r/MGTOW224/11/19 01:26 AM
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Mastered? No. But i'm no longer a complete doormat.
/r/MGTOW223/11/19 07:01 PM
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Does your fwb reach out to you for a good time, or do you? I've done that before and it seemed like when she wasn't dtf, she immediately is offended. Maybe it's the age group 20-25. I wasn't gross, I just wanted to be clear that i'm coming over to fuck. So part of me just wants to wait for the, "heyyyyy :)" text
/r/MGTOW223/11/19 01:44 PM
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I'll meditate for 20 minutes. I don't like the idea of thinking i'm hot shit, it seems disingenuous to me. I need to know i'm hot shit, and I suppose I can only get that by accomplishing my own goals. But I have had those rare moments where my confidence (and libido) goes through the roof and the world just seems to work in my favor. I imagine that is what cocaine is like.
/r/MGTOW223/11/19 01:30 PM
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I think that the lovable jerk must have some kind of utility whether it is real or often times just perceived. Otherwise he's just a useless asshole and he will be ostracized quickly. You're right about self-respect, if you perceive yourself as inferior then you treat everyone like they are better than you. Soon enough, most people will believe that. My father definitely destroyed any confidence I had and to gain favor with him was in a way tethered to my confidence. I took that experience and e…
/r/MGTOW223/11/19 01:14 PM
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I was told that my dad was a monster. That is probably true to some extent. As I got older, I slowly realized how my mom would provoke him, as she is very subtle but knows exactly what to say to piss people off. I came to realize that both my parents are very emotionally damaged people. I love them and will take care of them. Maybe I haven't lived long enough to make similar mistakes. Edit: my dad is a caricature of the redpill which attracts damaged women (my mom). They both deserve each other.
/r/MGTOW223/11/19 11:03 AM
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I guess the aspie girls are reproducing but I almost gurantee an autistic dude is a genetic dead-end.
/r/MGTOW222/11/19 11:05 AM
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You're right! I knew I missed one! And that is probably the biggest one especially in the south. "Well i'm always peeing, i'm 100 pounds overweight, and my foot is all tingly" Hmmmmm 🤔
/r/MGTOW222/11/19 10:58 AM
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How many women have you dated?
/r/MGTOW222/11/19 03:35 AM
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It's not about looks. I've had crushes on many chubby awkward women. But online dating has completely inflated the ego of most women that use it. They will always see themselves as the prize and i'm the provider, the entertainer, the protector that can be easily replaced. Now couple that with the fact that 50% of marriages end in divorce, where 75% are initiated by women. It's just a rigged and stupid game. Of course i'd like to date someone but women literally make it a Herculean effort. How is…
/r/MGTOW222/11/19 03:31 AM
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Sure. But i'm also just as happy not being in a relationship too. The women i've encountered have been a net negative in my life. It seems like women have nothing but demands and this is the lack of reciprocity I was referring too. You just really can't see it from our point of view and you're upset because..?
/r/MGTOW222/11/19 03:15 AM
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She doesn't understand that we are probably most tame group within the reddit manosphere. I literally wrote out a lengthy explanation as to why I don't practice the redpill (narcissism in her eyes) and wanted to start living an authentic life. If a woman comes along, cool. But marriage is a no, and she will have to pay rent if she want to live with me (a loop-hole in my state's commonlaw marriage, any rent payment means not "together" in a sense).
/r/MGTOW222/11/19 03:11 AM
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Is narcissism genetic? 🤔
/r/MGTOW222/11/19 03:07 AM
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It's a pretty small fan club. What is your purpose here? Catch more flies with honey than vinegar
/r/MGTOW222/11/19 03:06 AM
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It's not about selfishness. It's about lack of reciprocity and the consequences of a society that encourages an asymmetrical burden on one gender. When the guys here figure that out, they can either play this bullshit game or walk their own path. It may look selfish but (and I can only speak for myself when I say) I actually wanted to be a husband and father but after awhile you realize that is a massive life-choice gamble.
/r/MGTOW222/11/19 03:03 AM
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Do you tell your fwb that you have another fwb? It's funny because I found myself in this predicament (oddly enough when I was really into mgtow life) and my fwb started flaunting how many tinder matches she had with dudes that were obviously better than me. I nearly said, "Ok, well you're not the only person i'm fucking" But I caught myself and just played into being jealous and dangled the relationship carrot some more, it bought me another 8 months of casual sex and friendship before she call…
/r/MGTOW222/11/19 02:34 AM
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Fuck that sounds like every industry
/r/MGTOW222/11/19 02:15 AM
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Lots of medicine is pretty repetitive. Strep throat, gonorrhea, pregnancy, alcoholism/substance abuse covers like 70% of outpatient problems. Inpatient is mitigating the exact same infections and/or opportunistic bacteria. There's even a playbook physicians consult all the time. Yeah it's super dense, but they were force fed this material in school. It's not the creative field that people like to romanticize. If you deviate from the playbook, you better have a damn good reason.
/r/MGTOW222/11/19 02:03 AM
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Gotta get yours boy. I've kind of conditioned a willful ignorance to it all. I've had a girl tell me she faked every orgasm, and man I was pissed. Then I realized she just played herself, i'd be happy to reciprocate most things that are needed for sexy time because I like that. It's up to her to tell me that. But we all know the narrative "man bad at sex hur dur hur" always the guys fault. Even though women are suppose to be stellar at communication. Maybe chicks are tasing their pussies and cou…
/r/MGTOW222/11/19 01:54 AM
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Is there any data on this? It sure would explain the many autistic people out there. Like, sure, we probably got better at identifying them but it sure does seem like there are more. Also, when both parents are established they can easily fund their son's NEET lifestyle. I even know of an older couple who bought a small house (in a very low cost of living city) for their son. He has a fund that doles out exactly enough to keep things going. He works 20 hours a week at a pizza joint for fun money…
/r/MGTOW222/11/19 01:46 AM
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After working in a place with an extremely toxic work environment, I feel like the bar is very low for me. I've literally had people scream at me and lose their voice. Being a young guy, I thought that was the norm and just rolled with it. (I was stuck, and got a better degree, options low). I work a job now where people act like adults. I don't want to be any of their friends but I believe they are genuinely nice folks. Maybe this guy recognized an awesome work environment.
/r/MGTOW222/11/19 01:35 AM
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I think on some level people know that, they just don't acknowledge it. Can you imagine a guy saying "Well I provide emotional support!" My first thought is that he is a con-artist. My second thought is he is a totally wimp. I think this is where the frustration in my earlier days come from. I was constantly disappointed by women because I believed they should be as competent as men. Equality right? I was annoyed that people act like getting an airhead for a gf was an accomplishment. I believed …
/r/MGTOW220/11/19 11:49 AM
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Yeah when you start a relationship, you have to be this awesome person. And that would be fine, but it doesn't stop there. You continuously have to keep dating her. To keep impressing. To keep her entertained. Then you look at your bank account and see that 25% of your income goes to her not being bored. I still date, but i've come to realize that not only do I not want to give what is required to keep a woman happy, oftentimes I couldn't provide that if I wanted to. So whenever I read online da…
/r/MGTOW220/11/19 11:07 AM
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I don't have FU money. I have "treat me like shit and I can easily get another job" money. And man oh man, that level of security has no price tag. Especially after having "I can't afford to be unemployed for more than a month" money. I realize now that money is so much more than something we use to trade goods and services, it's tangible freedom. Freedom to walk away from bullshit without flinching, that mindset is transcending for a guy that was treated like a peasant.
/r/MGTOW219/11/19 12:35 AM
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I understand what they are trying to accomplish but really they are just mimicking the same victim-protest bullshit. I guess I see it as fighting fire with fire, but it just comes off as whinny, much like the group that have demonized white people, which is the group they are responding to. It's more like two retards having a crayon eating contest. There's tons of different people that don't buy into that victim bullshit.
/r/MGTOW219/11/19 12:27 AM
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I've thought about this extensively. Who do these laws hurt the most? Average joe. Yeah wealthy dudes get a hit, but they bounce back easily. They are also quick on the uptick of trends, when divorce gets really bad, none of them will marry. Poor guys had nothing to lose anyways. I believe divorce court will collapse because the middle class will collapse. I believe that the middle class was a short-lived phenomenon, and now we will regress to a new pseudo-democracy easily regulated by techno-fe…
/r/MGTOW218/11/19 12:15 AM
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Don't forget bromance. How dare two dudes have a friendship. Yes, I know it has gay connotations. But really dudes are less judgemental than girlfriends. I remember my ex-gf totally flipping shit about her friend being upset about the present she gave, it made me realize that female relationships have an ungodly high bar for reciprocity. And that's why women get super stressed about what other women think. So when my boy gives me an old poster, I know it's a combination of convenience and though…
/r/MGTOW217/11/19 10:19 PM
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I see this alot too especially as a guy who just recently became "valuable". Talking to other people makes me realize that regardless of who I am, I'm suppose to consider myself lucky to settle down with any woman. There's hardly any reciprocity in this cultural norm, where I need to have decent paying job, be in shape, and have a wide social network. She needs not be too fat and somehow she's the prize. Asking for reciprocity seems to be a cardinal sin. It seems like men have tangible resources…
/r/MGTOW217/11/19 07:17 PM
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It's also worth mentioning that it takes time to realize what will actually make you happy. There's a parallelism here I want to address, where women "find" themselves through other people (cock carousel). It seems like men find themselves through introspection, often an absence of people. Women seem to indulge in hedonism to find themselves, where men find themselves in times of scarcity. I was considering suicide at 20, living in my car, depressed. And I would read r/futurology. Thinking about…
/r/MGTOW217/11/19 05:06 PM
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Starting my own business or going to medical school to be a rural doctor. I'm tired of schools, hospitals, governments, just institutions in general. I've found working in an institution is only stifling. I'm tired of nurses who don't care about patients. I'm tired of burnt out doctors who regretted their career path. I'm tired of managers and politicians promising paradise but giving sub-mediocre results. But most of all, i'm tired of the apathetic grunt who sees no meaning in their work, this …
/r/MGTOW217/11/19 04:53 PM
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We pretty much have to reinvent the game. I think we should advocate for transparency above all else. Now we have two tracks: 1) Fuck whoever, whenever, wherever and be unapologetic about that with further partners. 2) Every fuck is a declaration of monogamy, you need to try your best to stay with that person. One sees sex as sexual freedom, the other sees sex as spiritual security. But people aren't honest and usually are a wash between 1 and 2. Claiming that I want a girl that wasn't blowing t…
/r/MGTOW217/11/19 03:52 PM
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I'd argue there is 3rd group of guys who want it all. Freedom and a female partner.
/r/MGTOW217/11/19 03:40 PM
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We got like 70 years. That is the scope of our reality. I'm not accountable for the sins of my father. And my children will not be accountable for my sins. Everything is judged within the current social context. My best friend who is half white half asian was called a Gook by the black kids and white kids. He regularly uses the n-word, ending in -gga because he knows that within his context that is totally fair. I've known my friend since kindergarden and I can tell you without doubt he is inter…
/r/MGTOW217/11/19 03:36 PM
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I wasn't banned because I was a lurker for so long. And to be honest, I intially liked the misogyny. You never see anything negative toward women, all their intentions are pure. It was refreshing to see women being taken down a peg. Or I like to think of it as humanizing, women have the potential to be just as awful as men. But now I can't stand that subreddit, it's a parody of its self. It reaches a point where holding onto anger is dumb. I'm not going to make a hobby out of hating women, I jus…
/r/MGTOW217/11/19 03:19 PM
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I realized how much of a people pleaser I was in my last job. There was this older guy that was completely incompetent. He had the same hair-trigger temperment as my father, so I did whatever I could to make his life and by association my life easier. And one day I saw what he was doing and how it was going to cost me an extra 2 hours of work to clean it up. And I told him, "don't worry, I got it" He said, "what you don't trust me?" Without skipping a beat, "No" So he flew off the handle, althou…
/r/MGTOW217/11/19 02:28 PM
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Sometimes people will phrase their opinion as someone else's because they know that person's opinion may have more of an impact. This is why whenever I feel like confronting someone on the topic I use the exact same words as that person used. My dad had told me that my mom thinks i'm a "failure" which really hurt to hear because my mom has been nothing but supportive. So when I confronted her, telling her dad said "failure" she said "no I said you work alot and I worry if you're happy" Ultimatel…
/r/MGTOW217/11/19 02:15 PM
2

Yes and that's the other side of the coin. Knowing when to quit, otherwise endure a sink-cost fallacy. My grandfather was deeply hurt to sell the farm but he knew that nothing would come of it. Having the wisdom to know when to quit I think is just important as the grit to keep going.
/r/MGTOW211/11/19 11:11 AM
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I think I would define happiness as the basics. Food, water, shelter, and some sense of belonging is the starting line to be happy but also the ceiling. Past that point is fulfillment or self-actualization and this is the depression people seem to struggle with. Oftentimes what their tribe (who they belong to) instilled a set of values that is not conducive to their fulfillment. Some double-down believing that the tribe (who gave them the basics) know best. Leading to two outcomes: 1) Relief tha…
/r/MGTOW211/11/19 01:12 AM
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With working out, yes I was both A and B. I'm a smaller guy so I have to compensate somehow for my physicality. People will always see me as inferior, i'm not throwing a pity party, that is just the reality of being a man that falls short of what society deems acceptable. I had more of a redpill depression than anger phase and I stopped going to the gym. I took up the idgaf attitude and started drinking in the morning, because fuck it. My work suffered and I regressed more into apathy, porn, and…
/r/MGTOW209/11/19 10:54 AM
1

I thought more about what you said and I think you're on to something. Obviously I do want women to have autonomy and choose their own path. But especially now, I think women are presented with so many options it's impossible for them to not have some form of 'fear of missing out'. There was an experiment where people were presented with two kinds of jelly beans, they could only select one kind, then they were asked how they felt about their choice, most people were content or even enthusiastica…
/r/MGTOW204/11/19 11:12 AM
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It depends on what kind of life you want. I grew up poor, I have very few material wants so my escape fund is $750,000. The great thing is that with compounding interests you can save like a mf. Taking that fund and investing it gurantees I can withdrawl 4% every year (30K) and the initial fund will be replenished within that year. Now does that mean I will be living like a millionaire? No, but it will give me the freedom to pursue meaningful work or creative pursuits. I enjoy my job right now b…
/r/MGTOW203/11/19 04:18 AM
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In 5 years, she'll have 5 kids. And normal people will have to pay taxes on the destruction that her husband and children cause. This is why people are conservatives, we're tired of living in a society that allows most people to flourish but some become criminals and the citizens pay. No fuck that, drop this guy off on an island where he can be a king and he can kill people of his kind. These people are trash.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/11/19 12:22 AM
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I'd argue that a beta male bought into the feminist bullshit that women want to be treated as equals. If women wanted to be treated as equals then they would act as equals.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/11/19 12:14 AM
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This can be translated into so many different ways of power. There was a chick on purplepilldebate that talked about guys being the dark triad who would benefit her. Like lady... these dark triad guys will literally rape you and not care. Even if you fell in love with the rapist, his protection would only extend to you if its convenient. But yes keep believing that psychopathy is the ultimate form of masculinity.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/11/19 12:11 AM
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Of course. And when we are talking about spiteful lovers that seek the most damage..?
/r/MGTOW202/11/19 10:18 PM
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I see what you mean. I've only really gamed the system to get what "future me" might find valuable.
/r/MGTOW202/11/19 10:14 PM
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What motivation?
/r/MGTOW202/11/19 09:43 PM
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You mean with a girl who has a career she hates but gravitates towards bad guys. Yeah no, party girls with their bullshit jobs can find someone else to put out that dumpster fire.
/r/MGTOW202/11/19 09:42 PM
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Reading r/deadbedrooms made me realize how bad it was. Like I was at a crossroads, either I could start a family and endure this bullshit of loveless slavery for 30 years then retire and die 5 years later. OR I could work my ass off single and retire at 37. It's not lonely being around family and also BEING 37 AND SINGLE IS NOT TOO OLD FOR A FAMILY. Shit girls are adjusting their timeline, why can't I?
/r/MGTOW202/11/19 09:39 PM
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I think it helps re-prioritize ourselves. Marriage is just one on a shuffle of things that people prioritise. Despite what other mgtow say about dropping out of society, I want to be the positive influence. Maybe I sound bluepill but I know that I can't exist by myself. I believe that true meaning is derived from creating, teaching, and learning.
/r/MGTOW202/11/19 09:29 PM
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Yes Edit: I can only speak for myself when I say that marriage in the traditional sense is off the table. I still date, and maybe will have a kid, but marriage is something only a very wealthy or very poor man will do. The divorce system in place exploits average men.
/r/MGTOW202/11/19 09:17 PM
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I want to believe that who I have chosen as a life partner is mine and she has chosen me as well and we will act accordingly, but that's not how it works. Maybe it's a product of feminism, maybe longevity because of medicine or psychology will make us realize that "love" lasts 3 years at best (how long are babies totally dependent?). One thing is for sure, I'm not entering a contract that has a shit contingency plan.
/r/MGTOW202/11/19 09:17 PM
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I tend to write how I speak. He's right, I just can't imagine saying "used to" as opposed to "use to" "Use-d to" sounds awkward to me. I had no idea that it was ebonics. But I live in a large southern black city, and my dad spoke ebonics sarcastically. So I sound like like a jive turkey once i'm basted, you get what i'm sayin'? Baby, I'm going to sine your pitty on the runny kine.
/r/MGTOW202/11/19 07:03 PM
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Irregardless I got my point across
/r/MGTOW202/11/19 04:03 PM
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That's why they're called re-tards. They just keep on tarding.
/r/MGTOW202/11/19 01:21 AM
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I think metoo definitely changed the opportunity for office romance. Only a retard would put his reputation and career on the line for pussy.
/r/MGTOW201/11/19 11:56 PM
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I think porn has a lot to do with it. When I was spanking it twice a day I was super docile. I would talk to women but I would put in absolutely no effort to date. Like a lot of guys, dating was just simply not fun and the growing demands made it even less fun. (Before anyone gets on their soapbox about 'anything worth having is difficult' spiel, I want to remind you that the SMV disparity between 18 year old men and women creates a dating culture that only a level-five simp would enjoy) I don't…
/r/MGTOW201/11/19 11:54 PM
1

Why do women want marriage? Because that is usually their gurantee to a relationship's longevity, at least that is the thinking. I need you to show you love me by being legally bound to me And that would be all well and good if 50% of marriages didn't lead to divorce. I'm glad that some women are out earning men, divorcing them, then have to pay alimony and see that this system is dumb. The caveat here is that most women really don't want a man that makes less money than her. "Hey it's our money…
/r/MGTOW201/11/19 11:33 PM
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After watching female friends and family members get involved with obviously awful men. It came to a crossroads that either: A) Some intelligent women that I respect have very little control of their lives (hypoagency/blue pill). OR B) Women prioritize things different than I do. I might see an arrogant guy who interrupts people and brags about a company he'll never make. She might see an ambitious confident man worth dating. The reality is that guy sits at home smoking weed all day. He just hap…
/r/MGTOW225/10/19 05:51 PM
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I agree with this so much. My ex was viciously grabbing at my dick soon after she realized what kind of work I was in. 2 years later and still very much in love with her she couldn't be bothered to touch me for 4 months! Just straight-up mean, I was determined to make it work. Then she lost track of the lies and was pissed that I was actually listening to what she had said. Through some patient conversation, she said that "I'm just not attracted to you" That shit hurt. It made me realize that ju…
/r/MGTOW220/10/19 10:59 PM
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I think some transition to good wife and mother and those guys are very lucky. It's just a gamble with bad odds. I still date (when it's convenient) and i'm not excited about casual sex as much. But marriage is off the table for me. I'm also not the only one that feels this way, I have some good nerdy friends who are killing it out there but they know something is 'off'. I don't have the heart to tell them pill theories because it's the adult version of 'Santa Claus doesn't exist'
/r/MGTOW220/10/19 08:03 PM
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Toning inherently? I don't know what you mean.
/r/MGTOW220/10/19 07:58 PM
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