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There is data to suggest that slut-shaming is done equally by both men and women. The study Iinked below is one example (it showed that both the male and female participants were more likely to be prejudiced against mkre promiscuous women£, and in that study it also showed that the female participants were more likely to be actively punitive towards the promiscuous women, whereas men showed no such punitive desires. Also, look at it from an evolutionary/biological standpoint: it would not benefi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 03:46 AM
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When a woman's appearance is quite literally the first thing men look at (you can't learn much, if anything, about someone by just looking at them) wouldn't it make sense that someone's appearance is the first thing that someone will judge about another person that they haven't met and know nothing about? It almost seems like you act like men judging a woman's appearance first is at all surprising, and that it is somehow wrong. If it was the only thing that a man cared about, then yes that would…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 09:56 PM
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Still doesn't justify special treatment anf double standards. I'm sorry but you just don't have a leg to stand on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 02:31 AM
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Women want equality, yet want different standards and expectations too? Do you want equal treatment or special treatment? Because you cant have both. Oh and also dont try throwing out stereotypes and generalizing in order to justify those double standards. Every man is different, and to expect a higher level from a man than what you will put in just because of sexist assumptions you're making about him is just so not ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 01:34 AM
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No it sounds like double standards for the purpose of the woman not having to put in as much effort. Nice try tho
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 01:30 AM
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Dude WTF
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 01:32 PM
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Thank you friend. I have a large friend group, almost all of whom are dating/married, and every single one of their relationships are positive and healthy. No sense in thinking I can't find that myself. I just had a lot of unrecognized issues in the past that led me to get myself in bad relationships. No one else's fault but my own, and it's completely within my ability to fix and get it right the next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 04:07 AM
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After my marriage ending in divorce, and the woman I dated before that being abusive, it gives me hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 04:03 AM
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That's one of the reasons I watch those "cute couple" tiktok compilation videos. It helps remind me that a majority of men and women in relationships are cute and wholesome and doing things right.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 03:53 AM
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Lifelong companionship. Sure there are risks but if two people feel confident that they are right for each other and in it for the long haul, then yeah go for it! Remember, there is a difference between "50% of marriages end in divorce" and "50% of first-time marriages end in divorce". A porion of divorces are from serial-divorcees who get married and divorced multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 03:11 PM
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I am a man, and what you are saying is absolute BS. Men and women are equally capable of being irrational/illogical. Find me some science and/or data that backs up your claim nd then I will listen. Until then, I would recommend backing off this stereotyping BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 05:03 PM
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I'm a dude and it only took two casual sexual encounters to turn me off to that shit for good. I feel ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 05:56 AM
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Tell that to my ex-wife who was a starfish, and I couldn't stay hard and orgasm even a 1/3 of the time because I cant be aroused if she isn't into it and putting effort in too. Lots of dudes experience arousal and reach orgasm as a result of the woman putting in effort. I seriously question just how many men can just fuck a woman who clearly isn't into it and isn't putting effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 05:50 AM
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ALL men? Have you met all of us?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 05:47 AM
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How in the bloody fuck do you somehow know that 99% of men think that way? Have you met 99% of all men? Fuck off with your stereotyping bullshit. There are WAY more good dudes out there just trying to have a good relationship with their partners, both romantic and sexual, and if, for your worldview to work, you to believe that 99% of men have shitty beliefs, then I don't know what else to tell you. Just do the rest of us a favor and keep that shit to yourself because we don't need you trying to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 05:38 AM
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That's great! Just find yourself a man who reciprocates that level of consideration and you got yourself a pretty great relationship :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 05:25 AM
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So you are making an argument based on a theoretical person?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 03:12 AM
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So when the hell did you become omniscient to generalize men like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 11:30 PM
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Who is the "she" you are referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/21 11:28 PM
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Or the women will find that they have less men to pick from and might actually have to up their game a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 05:39 PM
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I have adhd, and people with ADHD will go one lf two ways in regards to their impulsivity and thrill-seeking tendencies: they can be like me and just become overly cautious about everything and avoiding any and all risky behavior to counteract the impulsiveness, or they can be like your friend and just fully lean into their impulsivity. Hell, even I damn near cheated on my ex-wife but then my self-imposed cautiousness caused me to snap out of it at the last second before I acted on it and instea…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 05:53 AM
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Your experience isn't universal. I am a dad and I have had to take extra precautions when it is just my daughter and I out in public due to past experiences with other people treating me with suspicion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 03:02 PM
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I don't see women complaining about getting to live while the men die. If women really cared about equal treatment, they would be saying "no, we should draw straws for who lives and who dies rather than prioritizing us women over the men"?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 03:34 AM
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I sure as hell wouldn't want to have kids, especially sons, with a woman who calls men "scrotes".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 07:08 PM
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No what I was asking is how do you know that there are "lots" of fake men out there? Do you data to back up this claim? Or are you universalizing your own personal experience like you have been with the rest of your comments in this comment section?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 03:02 PM
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And this assessment is based on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 08:18 AM
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Yes but it's the best kind of shit-show!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 07:04 AM
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Yep, I was like that with an ex-girlfriend who I felt like I could save somehow. Big fucking mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 02:20 PM
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Part of getting a man to make you his wife is doing things a wife would do so that he can see the benefit and value of you being his wife. Dating is essentially is a sales pitch: "here is the product I want you to buy (marriage with me), and here is a demonstration of how well the product works". No guy is gonna wanna marry you if they don't see effort from you too or you waiting until you're married to start putting in effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 08:39 PM
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Are you saying that women, as a whole, are incapable of having friendships with men for non-utility reasons? Or that some/most women aren't capable of it? In my friend group that I have had for the last 15 years, many of us in our friend roup had friendships with other people of the opposite sex that didn't get weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 02:35 AM
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My thoughts exactly. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 03:58 AM
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Some men might not, sure. But I think, especially nowadays, plenty of men would LOVE for the woman to initiate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 06:39 PM
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Yeah there might be a mismatch, but also some underlying assumptions the woman holds. It could also be a bias/resentment that I felt strongly about this as something similar happens between me and my ex-wife to what I have seen elsewhere. Whenever I would play video or computer games, she would pick those times to come talk to me about deep or important topics. I always had a rule for myself that whenever she came to talk to me while I was playing games, I would immediately pause the game and gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 07:50 PM
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In those cases, yes it would be wrong for the man to be doing fun stuff when there are responsibilities to be taken care of. I should have clarified that before. My issue was with times where that isn't that case. I have seen instances with some of my friends and just other cases in general where a woman will feel resentful of a man having fun without her. Seems really selfish to me. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 05:14 PM
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While I have no opposition to either FDS or MGTOW in what their stated goals are (FDS: find ways to avoid dating shitty men, MGTOW: live life for yourself and not for women), it's the followers of these philosophies that make them look bad. FDS has become mostly shit-tier and low-effort posts that just take pointless jabs at men, to the degree where you can't help but wonder if they just hate men. MGTOW has become a bunch of men that despite stating they want nothing to do with women, they sure …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 07:35 PM
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While I wouldn't generalize this to all women, I have met some women who seem opposed to men having fun for some reason. Especially if the man is having fun without the woman. I really can't figure out why some of them do that. I would imagine the FDS types have developed so much bitterness towards men that the thought of men having fun, when they should instead be reflecting on their toxic masculinity or rejecting the patriarchy or some other bullshit like that, just drives them crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 07:26 PM
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Also, people who are desperately looking for a purpose in life and/or inclusion in special, different, and unique in order to set themselves apart from others. Those kinds of people are susceptible to cults too because cults offer all of that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 06:30 AM
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Well you can either believe that there are plenty of women who don't fit that type, and you keep looking until you find one, or you can (using the police analogy) hold an "ACAB" mindset and swear off woman altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 05:56 AM
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Thank you for being able to see through the outer layer of resentment, see he who is at his core, and giving him a chance. My own experiences with women in the past makes me resonate deeply with your BF's experience. I hope I can find a woman someday who shows me the same courtesy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/21 05:51 AM
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I was about to pull up stats on how many women identify as feminists, but I am finding different estimates that vary wildly from each other. Anywhere as low as less than a third to as high as 60%. Strange. Even still, while I certainly have an issue with the man-hating factions and practitioners of man-hating feminism (I actually just two days ago unfriended a woman on FB and ended the friendship entirely due to her constant ans blatant misandry), I get the sense that most feminist-identifying w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 04:46 PM
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Because there are plenty of men out there who want more than sex, myself included. We want relationships and commitment too. Red Pillers (which I know you said you aren't one) act like sex is the only desirable goal. For me, it isn't. I want marriage and a family. Look, I have plenty of my own criticisms of some of the things women do, and I recognize the ways that women have advantages in the dating world. I also have put up with a lot ot shit in my past relationships with women (with my ex-wif…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 11:49 PM
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Oh for fucks sake I already said your personal experience isn't universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 03:50 PM
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And you think the majority of women do this? And before you answer, just remember that your personal observations and experiences are not universal. To make generalizations, you need hard data.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 02:48 PM
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Why? What have these women done to "deserve" that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 02:35 PM
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Exactly. That's why it is best to learn how to vet a potential partner to see if they are the kind of person who will take advantage out of self-interest. If they exhibit a willingness ti compromise and valuing their partner's needs AS MUCH AS their own (not more than, not less than), then you can have a mutual beneficial and a genuine relationship. The challenge is learning to find that kind of person. But I won't settle for anything less.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 12:58 AM
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You just articulated my thoughts on this so much better than I ever could. I hate both of these extremes because it just encourages both men and women to see relationships as some fucking battle where you try to get as much as possible while giving as little as possible. You can't have a relationship that is satisfying long term with that kind of mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 12:38 AM
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Why are you dying, if I may ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 03:22 AM
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My only issue is when men have tried to create positive male spaces on college campuses (as a formally recognized student group) for men to meet and talk about issues they are facing, and feminist groups at these colleges will protest and complain until the college caves to the pressure and the college ends up not letting these groups be formed. Or when feminists protest speeches about men's issues, or colleges/organizations recognizing International Men's Day. Yes, there are other avenues for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 06:06 PM
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Yes I would still recommend therapy. Just because the situations causing the distress have resolved doesn't mean that stuff like that won't happen again. You will want to learn healthier mindsets and useful coping skills for when things get difficult again. Best of luck to you friend :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 07:24 PM
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I wonder if the author of that article would claim "being poor and under stress" for male-perpretrators of child abuse as he did for female perpetrators.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 01:44 AM
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So you wont approach guys because it's difficult and comes with potential risks? Men have been having to do that forever, and out of necessity. Women can choose to approach if they want, but they don't have to if they don't want to. Men don't have that privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 01:37 AM
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The majority of my friends are straight men. And my Bi friend (who is happily married to a woman nowadays btw), never did anything selfish towards me nor hit on me or anything. He is one of the most selfless people I have ever met. He had crushes on a few of his guy friends, but he chose to ignore those crushes because he valued our friendship more. Do you know that people can learn to ignore their sexual/romantic desire for another person if they choose to value the friendship above their attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 06:03 PM
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Yes, of course there will likely be a difference between how we experience friendship with members of the opposite sex. But that isn't always the case. My closest male friend is Bi, and used to have a crush on me like 15 years ago, but it's never been something he acted on nor has it compromised our friendship at all (I only know because he told me and several other mutual friends when he came out as Bi). Also, just because there might be even a small amount of sexual attraction towards one of y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:36 PM
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I think it has more to do with not being able to "take a break" from the constant barrage of sexual desire that people have in their teenage and young adult years. In my experience, as well as the experiences my friends have shared with me, getting married helped take that pressure off. It became that the only acceptable sexual partner in my mind was my wife. I started to see other women as simply people to be friends with and enjoy their company. I certainly did have female friends before that,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 02:58 PM
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Does anyone have other examples of these kinds of double standards when it comes the harsher treatment, and less empathy, that men receive when it comes to law enforcement and criminal justice? I posted this article om my Facebook and I have several people claiming that they haven't seen a trend of people caring more about women imprisonment than male imprisonment. I want to find example to show to them.
/r/PussyPass11/12/20 04:20 PM
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Liberal clinicians are just as susceptible to bias as conservative ones. Also, since you made the comparison of conservative vs. open-minded, are you implying the open-minded=liberal?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/20 11:16 PM
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One of the founding principles of modern psychotherapy, brought to us by Alfred Adler (one of the most influential early psychotherapists), is the idea of treating your clients with "unconditional positive regard". Which means you treat all your clients with respect and positivity rather than animosity, and that it is the clinician's responsibility to put aside their own personal biases when treating their clients. If a conservative client has delusional thinking, then it treated like you would …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/20 10:52 PM
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Oh believe me, learning about the Motte and Bailey really opened my eyes to just how often people do it. The FDS sub is a frequent perpetrator of this argument style. You will see posts on there quite often that are something along the lines of "lol scrotes mad that we simply want them to respect our boundaries and recognize our value"..... In defense of someone making some horrible statement about men as a whole. As if saying "men are incapable of empathy" is equal to saying "I value myself and…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 02:55 PM
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Your argument is what they call a "Motte and Bailey", which is when you make a weak argument, and then when challenged, you replace it with a stronger argument, and then try to equate the two while hoping the other person is too dumb to notice the trick you pulled. Women say hateful things, such as men having a curfew or being forcefully sterilized (weak argument), men challenge the hateful things the women say, women say "we're just holding men accountable" (stronger argument) and then act like…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 05:55 AM
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I'm a guy. After getting married, I learned how fucking awesome it is to have strong female friendships since being married pretty much turned off the sexual desire switch in my brain for anyone other than my wife. Which made it easier for me to interact with women as if they were any other person since my mind wasn't clouded by wanting sex or romance. Even though I am divorced now, I still find myself really my friendships with women. For all you dudes out there, I suggest you try learning to e…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 04:52 AM
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Do you have a way to get in contact with him? I know this was 30-40 years ago, but if you can track him down, you can assure that he is safe and not still in that abusive relationship. Or at least let him know that you are sorry for being dismissive. I am not trying to shame or guilt you since you've already come to a better understanding of things, but I just worry that this guy and his safety or is holding resentments for people not taking him seriously.
/r/PussyPass02/12/20 07:42 PM
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Yes! Thank you!
/r/MensRights01/12/20 01:52 PM
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Way to strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 06:31 PM
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Because people are so sensitive nowadays that any emotional pain is unbearable that they feel like they've been physically hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 06:29 PM
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There was one college I saw where some men submitted an official request to start a men's group on campus to talk about issues affecting men, and the college said they would only allow the group to exist if it was created within the campus feminism group, and the feminism group would be responsible for determining the purpose of the group, and would monitor and regulate it's meetings, and that the main focus of group would be about combating toxic masculinity. Which is unbelievably misandrist. I…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/20 09:09 PM
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My ex-wife's milk wouldn't come in for some reason, so we did formula. My daughter turned out fine and healthy. Sure, statistically speaking breast-feeding has a lot of theoretical benefits over formula, but kids who are formula fed are not necessarily at risk for more health/development problems.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/11/20 08:25 PM
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Every man is different. We don't ALL want the same things. Some men will really appreciate kindness and friendliness from a woman and won't attempt to initiate sex in return. Some men will see it as an opportunity to initiate sex. I know that might sound frustrating to be told that you almost have to guess which type a particular man is, but I think both men and women face this same struggle of learning to read signs being shown by the member of the opposite sex. I would avoid physical touch unl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 11:25 PM
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Maybe you just let him enjoy the way his life is going without trying to tear him down with your pessimism. If he found a relationship that works for him, why would you discourage him?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 02:57 PM
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That's what happens when a movement becomes too based on rhetorical devices rather than substantive arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/20 01:20 PM
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What do women give away that she cannot regain? And why do men not give away anything? I am not sure what you're referring to. I did just wake up so my mind is still moving slow.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 12:28 PM
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