ThenCombination7358 Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
65	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships.	Debate	ThenCombination7358	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 09:52 PM
12	Why ranking people 1–10 doesn’t really work.	Discussion	ThenCombination7358	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/26 02:11 PM

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–	If bluebell advice worked the manosphere wouldn’t exist People also build relationships around emotional connection, shared values, trust, attachment, companionship, family goals, personality, humor, reliability, and a lot of other factors. RP tends to acknowledge those things less because it focuses heavily on competitive sexual dynamics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/26 05:42 PM
–	If bluebell advice worked the manosphere wouldn’t exist My issue is with reducing a man’s value primarily to those traits and treating relationships as mostly transactional status dynamics. Human relationships are more complex than that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/26 01:06 PM
–	If bluebell advice worked the manosphere wouldn’t exist Like, they often start from a reasonable point. For example, attraction matters and confidence is attractive. But then they overextend that into the idea that most relationships are fundamentally about status and power. Or yes, self-improvement can absolutely help with dating success. But then it turns into the claim that a man’s value is primarily based on status, money, dominance, and sexual success.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/26 04:19 AM
5	Women Generally Can’t Distinguish Between Confidence and Narcissism Thats just generalization at its best. This isn’t really a women-specific issue. People in general are often bad at distinguishing genuine confidence from narcissistic or manipulative traits, especially from surface-level behavior. The problem sadly is close to what you already mentioned. It’s a broader human bias. There’s actual psychology behind this too: Because of the Halo effect attractive/high-status people are perceived more positively overall. A confident presentation often gets mistaken…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 10:04 AM
1	MEN DO NOT NEED WOMEN Yeah why wouldn't I?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/26 11:35 AM
5	Men don't like to talk about their issues, but they do like to hijack conversation when women raise theirs. You’re right that people will react defensively, but I’m not saying that reaction is justified or equivalent to violence. I’m pointing out that the framing itself changes how the argument is received and whether it stays substantive or turns adversarial. Violence means physical harm you only gotten social reactions, don't exaggerate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 01:01 PM
8	Men don't like to talk about their issues, but they do like to hijack conversation when women raise theirs. I browsed a bit and found two posts of you. In both of them you were talking not about issues men face but issues you have with men. You do realise that you naturally get more push back that way right? Its how I would get push back if I wrote, "women only want money and status they don't care about love" from the women in this sub and definitely hard when posted in a more women centered/populated sub than this one which is mainly males.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 12:52 PM
8	Men don't like to talk about their issues, but they do like to hijack conversation when women raise theirs. Can you unlock your Post history so I can make myself a picture about what type of content you actually post?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 12:39 PM
11	Genuine question for all women My point was that 1% is basically meaningless. While overall men do cheat more often across all ages. Btw this whole male vs female gender war is why I hate red/black pillars. Throwing around with accusations out of anecdotes because some red guru said so on tiktok.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 12:29 PM
9	Genuine question for all women If you dont know how percentages work, it helps sometimes to translate it to numbers. Imagine you have 100 men and 100 women standing in front of you. Out of those whole 100 men, 10 will cheat. Then you look at all the 100 women, out of those 11 will cheat. If it helps you visualize how insigficant of a difference that is. It might aswell be switched when you redo the same study with 11 men to 10 women or even even.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 11:58 AM
–	Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATION Do you only want to be with someone you find physically attractive but cant stand their personality? Wanting an attractive mate both in looks and personality was always what women wanted same as men do btw. Just look at old romantic movies aimed at women etc. Men could cheat their way by simple peer pressure. If you didnt marry as woman you basically would be shunned and live poorly because jobs were paid badly for women. Now that the field has become more equal, men are torn between toxic mascu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 07:32 AM
–	Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATION I don’t think “modern dating culture” is a made up boogeyman. Dating apps, social media algorithms, ragebait content, economic pressure, isolation, and constant online gender discourse genuinely shape how people see each other and interact. I also agree corporations profit from outrage and polarization. Negative and emotionally charged content keeps people engaged, whether it’s manosphere content aimed at men or “all men are trash” content aimed at women. Where I disagree is calling it “female r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 06:45 AM
–	Young men did everything they're supposed to, and its not enough. Indicates its NOT their fault, rather it shows theres a real problem of YOUNG FEMALE RADICALIZATION I think you’re mixing together a few real observations with conclusions that go way too far. I do agree that a lot of young men today are more emotionally aware, less openly misogynistic, more supportive of egalitarian relationships, and generally more progressive than previous generations. That part is true. And I also agree that many young men feel frustrated because they were told “just be a good guy” and expected dating to become straightforward. But I don’t think the conclusion is “female r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 06:25 AM
–	I think I was mistaken on what the blue pill is - could you clarify something for me: do you see the blue and pink pills as diametrically opposed to each other? What you’re describing sounds more like a defensive reaction against red-pill ideology from a women-centered perspective. Blue pill is about having a balanced and healthy view of relationships overall, not framing dating as men vs women. I agree red-pill spaces often rely on misogynistic overgeneralizations and manipulation tactics, but I also don’t think the answer is to generalize all men as harmful either. A healthy relationship mindset should focus on mutual respect, emotional maturity, attr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 06:14 AM
–	I think I was mistaken on what the blue pill is - could you clarify something for me: do you see the blue and pink pills as diametrically opposed to each other? Honestly, what people call “blue pill” is probably the healthiest perspective when it’s balanced. Attraction matters. Looks and status influence dating. But communication, compatibility, emotional safety, and mutual respect matter too. People aren’t purely rational, but they also aren’t just biology and status calculators. A strong long-term relationship depends on a lot more than who gave someone butterflies on day one. “Blue pill” isn’t really an official pill either. Most of the time it’s jus…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 06:11 AM
–	Being in a relationship doesn’t mean you have game or mastered the game I don't get how you cant see this as the man settling aswell? He could have searched for a partner that he finds attractive and comfortable with and instead went with the first woman that showed interest in him, why doesnt that sound settling for you? Furthermore as it seems like the relationship dynamic is that the woman is genuinely interested but he only wants her because he things he can't be with anyone else quite the opposite of your point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 05:54 AM
–	Being in a relationship doesn’t mean you have game or mastered the game I agreed with your first point in regarding that people who got into long relationships early have no game, but you lost me with the “3rd or 4th option” part. What matters is whether she genuinely cares about you, treats you well, and there’s mutual respect in the relationship. If you’re happy, valued, and comfortable together, that’s what counts. If not, then the relationship probably isn’t for you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/26 05:47 AM
0	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. Go for it I would say?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/26 05:18 PM
1	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. Where does that 90% come from?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/26 01:45 PM
0	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. Just calling it a "basic fact" doesn’t make it one. Some women react badly, others don’t, that’s normal variation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/26 01:27 PM
0	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. Some women react badly to vulnerability, others don’t. When you treat it as broadly true, it pushes men to assume the worst by default and stay emotionally guarded even in situations where openness would actually build trust.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/05/26 01:10 PM
3	If bluebell advice worked the manosphere wouldn’t exist I agree that mainstream advice often needs to become more realistic and concrete for struggling men, but red pill ideology overcorrects and mistakes partial truths for a complete theory of human relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 10:49 AM
1	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. I’d criticize that mindset too, honestly. Turning relationships into power balances where one person is supposed to care more, chase more, or "work harder" creates the same kind of unhealthy dynamic I’m talking about. My point isn’t that only men can fall into this thinking, it’s that treating relationships like strategic power arrangements instead of mutual trust tends to damage intimacy over time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 10:09 AM
–	Do you know your enneagram type? I got 7w6 which is about the same result as my mbti one. I didn't really believe in it first but I did saw myself in it and I made sure it wasn't some horoscope shit and read trough the others aswell to confirm. For my relationship it helped to gain more insight how my gf works (she did the same test and we shared results with commentary) and how I work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 07:19 AM
–	Men and women would be better if men were AroAce Research in relationship psychology consistently finds that sexual satisfaction is strongly linked to overall relationship satisfaction, emotional closeness and perceived stability. The importance is ofc different for everyone and one of the core pillars for most healthy relationships. What matters most is compatibility, if your sex drives align it doesn't matter how often or if at all you have sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 06:50 AM
3	Glorification of step dads is harmful to society Come on really, that's just bait at this point. Or memes idk.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 06:35 AM
4	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. That’s not what I’m saying at all. Being aware of patterns and having boundaries isn’t the same as treating vulnerability as weakness or being naive. My point is that if you start from the assumption that vulnerability will usually be exploited, you change how you behave in relationships regardless of who the partner is. That can reduce trust and openness even in situations where trust would actually be safe. And if someone reacts negatively to vulnerability, that’s information about that specif…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 06:26 AM
2	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. I’m not saying people don’t know what they want. I’m saying the framework they use to interpret relationships can still influence how those relationships play out, even when compatibility is the main issue.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 06:23 AM
0	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. There’s a difference between saying "some ideas can encourage unhealthy relationship dynamics" and describing men as cuckolds, ATMs, or servants in absurd caricatures. You’re still arguing against an exaggerated fantasy version of BP instead of the actual point I made about trust, suspicion, and emotional guardedness. At this point it honestly feels like you’re more interested in repeating troll caricatures than engaging the argument itself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 04:59 AM
0	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. There’s a difference between criticizing tendencies within a framework and reducing people to insults or stereotypes. My argument is about how certain ideas shape relationship behavior over time, not about mocking people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 04:06 AM
0	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. I’m not saying every RP person is incapable of trust or respect. I’m criticizing the tendency within RP to frame relationships through suspicion, power dynamics, and emotional guardedness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 03:37 AM
1	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. I think there’s a difference between healthy vulnerability and unloading intense emotions onto someone too early. Timing and emotional balance matter for both men and women. My issue is more with turning that into a general belief that women fundamentally lose respect for men when they show emotion. That mindset can make men emotionally guarded even in healthy relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 02:59 AM
1	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. That’s not what I argued at all. Having boundaries and self-respect isn’t incompatible with trust and mutual respect. You’re arguing against a caricature, not my actual point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 02:56 AM
3	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. That’s not what I’m saying, and it’s not what blue pill advice actually is. There’s a big gap between "don’t treat relationships as power games" and "being a doormat." My point is that healthy relationships sit in the middle trough mutual respect, boundaries, and communication without extremes on either side.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 02:07 AM
3	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. I’m not denying that people of any gender can test boundaries or behavior in relationships. My point is about what happens when you adopt a mindset where you expect testing and respond to relationships primarily through suspicion or strategy. That’s what I’m arguing can be damaging over time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 01:55 AM
1	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. I’m not talking about intention or how you personally feel in your relationship, I’m talking about the functional effect of a stance. If your position is that there is no distance, no suspicion, and no minimization involved at all, then we’re probably just using different words for the same thing. But then it also raises the question of what distinguishes your view from a standard committed relationship where people trust each other and invest emotionally in the bond itself. Calling that immatur…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 01:51 AM
4	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. It’s not about focusing on men for the sake of it, it’s about discussing a mindset within the context where it’s mainly used and promoted. That’s all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 01:46 AM
1	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. I’m focusing on men because that’s the audience this ideology is mostly aimed at and discussed by in these spaces. My point is about how this specific mindset affects the group it’s most commonly associated with. That doesn’t mean similar patterns can’t exist elsewhere, it’s just not what I’m addressing here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 01:39 AM
2	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. I agree that anything can be useful in moderation and that you can take it too far. My point is that even when used rationally, if it becomes your default way of viewing relationships, it can still lead to suspicion and less trust in practice. So the issue isn’t just extremes, but how it shapes your mindset negatively over time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 01:29 AM
1	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. What you’re describing with caring about your partner but not the relationship itself, sounds like separating the person from the bond. In practice though, those two things are hard to split. Caring about someone usually creates emotional investment in the relationship as well, because trust, attachment, and shared meaning naturally develop over time. So while I get the idea of avoiding dependency, completely downplaying the importance of the relationship itself tends to limit how deep that conn…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 01:26 AM
7	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. That’s actually consistent with my point, not a contradiction. Any ideology that teaches broad suspicion toward an entire group can affect how you approach relationships. My post was specifically about how that shows up in this particular framework, not claiming it only ever happens one way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 01:05 AM
0	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. My post is about how this mindset affects men. Bringing up negative attitudes from women doesn’t really respond to that point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 12:38 AM
3	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. Even if you believe some women behave that way, it doesn’t justify turning it into a general rule about women or relationships. That’s exactly the overgeneralization I was talking about in my post, the way that mindset shapes how you approach and interpret relationships in a negative way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 12:36 AM
3	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. You’re not really responding to my point about using anecdotes to generalize. I understand you’ve had bad experiences online, but that doesn’t really address the argument. If you want to continue, I’m open to a calm discussion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 12:31 AM
7	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. That’s still just anecdotal generalization. You can find extreme behavior in any large group online. That doesn’t make it a "belief" or define what the perspective actually argues.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 12:14 AM
4	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. I didn’t avoid it because I agree. I don’t agree with that generalization. My point was about the mindset it creates if you believe it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 12:12 AM
11	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. Even if you’ve seen individuals say that, it still doesn’t turn it into advice from a whole group. That’s just some people being abusive, not a coherent set of beliefs or recommendations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 12:07 AM
8	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. Fair, but that’s a filtering mindset, not a relationship mindset. You can use any approach to avoid bad matches, but that doesn’t say much about what actually builds a healthy long-term relationship once you’re in one. Those are two different goals.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/26 12:01 AM
5	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. I agree that being aware, setting boundaries, and not being naive are all healthy. My point is just that it can go too far if it turns into constant suspicion or seeing relationships as a game. Being prepared is good however being cynical changes how you interpret everything your partner does.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 11:59 PM
6	Red pill advice teaches men how to sabotage healthy relationships. That’s an emotional anecdote about individuals, not an argument about the ideas themselves.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 11:56 PM
2	What's your relationship/sexual history? You’re taking it too literally. I’m not saying the first date doesn’t count, I’m saying it serves a different purpose. The first date is mostly about figuring out if the in-person chemistry matches the interest from texting/first impressions. You’re basically verifying compatibility and whether you even want to keep seeing each other. The second date matters because both people already passed that initial filter. A first date is just incredibly low stakes to me, so I don’t get emotionally invest…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 10:24 PM
1	What's your relationship/sexual history? Would you date or have dated a Bi guy? Have you ever been rejected for being Bi?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 10:13 PM
35	If bluebell advice worked the manosphere wouldn’t exist I think this argument assumes that if mainstream advice doesn’t guarantee success for every struggling man, then the manosphere must therefore be “the truth.” That doesn’t really follow. The manosphere exists because a lot of men are lonely, frustrated, socially isolated, and looking for certainty. Red pill content gives emotionally satisfying answers. It tells men there’s a hidden system behind dating and that their failures are not mainly personal or situational, but structural and predictable…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 10:04 PM
1	What's your relationship/sexual history? It's fundamentally not. What do those aspects have to do with it? You go on a date because you found someone interesting at first glance but don't know anything else about that person. You much likely haven't seen or talked in person at all and texting and in person vibe can be very different.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 09:54 PM
0	What's your relationship/sexual history? How do you know if you never had it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 09:41 PM
2	What's your relationship/sexual history? First dates aren't dates but simply an extension of texting. You simply want to see if you vibe or not. The second date is the actual first one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 09:39 PM
8	MEN DO NOT NEED WOMEN Who hurt you man, I hope you can eventually find a non toxic relationship but maybe its to late. Anyways I think going full monk mode like you are doing sounds interesting, genuinely.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 09:22 PM
15	Objectification is acted by the viewer, not the viewed A performer like Taylor Swift is obviously more than a sexual object. People care about her music, personality, songwriting, and public image in a way that clearly differs from a job built primarily around physical attraction. At the same time, it feels unrealistic to pretend clothing has no communicative function beyond self-expression or her comfort while dancing. Pop stars are part of a commercial entertainment industry where image, attractiveness, and sex appeal are deliberately used because…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 10:04 AM
2	What increases your sense of self-worth outside of romatic/sexual validation? Loving yourself for who you are and what you achieved so far. We sometimes are rather harsh with ourselves but forgett that the one person that will always be by your side no matter were you are is yourself, show that person some love.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 06:39 AM
1	Why do (some!!) men that sex robots/robot gfs will be a legitimate replacement for real romantic relationships with a human women? I thought of it as a meme or joke	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/26 05:56 AM
5	women do not hate objectification, they hate low value objectification I get that, if I am in the mood an attractive woman approaching me is cool if its someone I find unattractive I am not interested simple as that. If it happens in a weird way like grabbing my butt or am how it is on festivals by drunk women who laugh and giggle in groups, I hate that doesn't matter if they look attractive or not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/26 03:57 PM
6	Men love and respect pick mes What, no lol A pick-me girl is a slang term for a woman who desperately seeks male approval and validation, often by belittling other women or rejecting traditionally feminine interests to appear "different" or "easy."	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/26 07:42 AM
-1	Red pill men: what turned you red pill? That dating and gender relations are primarily driven by biological instincts, status hierarchies, and sexual competition.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/26 04:59 PM
-2	Red pill men: what turned you red pill? I dont think to highly of this ideology	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/26 04:50 PM
1	Red pill men: what turned you red pill? *serve Research on mate choice mostly finds assortative mating, meaning people tend to pair with others similar to them in things like age, education, values, and often attractiveness. It’s not a one way ladder. Also, if everyone always wanted more, stable long term relationships would be rare, but they’re actually the norm. People prioritize trust, compatibility, and emotional safety just as much as appearance or status. On abuse specifically, studies don’t link it to someone not being at their…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/26 04:20 PM
2	If many women say you are a total catch but won’t date you, the harsh truth is that they are lying to you. If you have good friends no one would tell you in your face that they dont find you attractive. I would never do that to a friend or stranger in person.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/26 04:04 PM
-1	Red pill men: what turned you red pill? Thinking in strict “1–10 attractiveness” terms tends to make dating feel more like a marketplace. People start ranking themselves and others by value, which can lead to either ego (“I deserve better”) or defeatism ("I’m to low-tier to matter”). Real attraction is way more contextual than that: personality, chemistry, confidence, timing, humor, shared values, etc. all matter a lot. IMO the biggest effect is psychological: it makes people see human relationships through hierarchy and status instea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/26 03:50 PM
-1	Red pill men: what turned you red pill? 1-10 attractive scales for example.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/26 03:36 PM
-4	Red pill men: what turned you red pill? Theres not much to explain, he probably had a few bad experiences, tried to meassure what cant be measured and now his whole life resolves around dating women and pseudo science behind it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/26 12:03 PM
1	I don’t agree with any of the pills but blue pill advice is far worse than red pill You are confusing the blue pill with bad sitcom writing. Evidence based relationship advice is not about only to worship women and wait in the friendzone. Research on healthy relationships consistently points to communication, emotional stability, confidence, mutual respect, shared values, and attraction on both sides. Self improvement absolutely helps dating, but that is not uniquely red pill. Fitness, career success, social skills, and confidence matter because they make you a healthier and mo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/26 11:46 AM
2	CMV: Men in their 20s should date around and play the field That was not directly aimed at you but generally towards men who havent realised that despite all the feminism some core stuff hasnt really changed. I had women approach me on their own yes but I can count that on one hand lol. And approaching works even if you are a shy introvert like me, just gotta conquer your fear and dont follow any stupid textbook guides but do it your own way	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/26 11:26 AM
–	After woman's so called 'hoe phase' in the end you are just the option she choose to settle down with right? Hey just out of interest, I wont judge you but did you write that as satire/joke or are that you real honest thoughts?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/26 08:44 AM
–	Loneliness of men due to excessive demands on women. Does this happen to you? What should you do? Thats just normal dating. I was on dating apps for about over half a year when I healed from my past 8 year long rl. In those 6-8 months, I went on dates with multiple women and as it happens I was only interested for a second date with 6 of them. 3 weren't interested in me, 1 ended after the second date, 1 I had a 1-2 month long fling with and the last one is now my gf since over a year. The other dates we just agreed mutually that it isn't it or there was interest from them but not from me. Al…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/26 08:38 AM
1	CMV: Men in their 20s should date around and play the field This post is more for men who super focus on a serious relationship instead of simply banter and have fun with women. Even if you dont have the "money" its good if a positive interaction with a woman doesnt end with you thinking "could that be a potential partner" or imaging your future with her already etc	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/26 06:45 AM
2	CMV: Men in their 20s should date around and play the field You be suprised to learn how many sit on their asses and do nothing. Its a world were man approach women, if you aren't an approacher then you get left behind. This doesnt mean you should go and harrass every woman on the street but to be the one to bring up your interest. If in a club and dancing with people and a woman keeps looking at you start to dance with her and see how she reacts if you are attracted to her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/26 06:42 AM
–	After woman's so called 'hoe phase' in the end you are just the option she choose to settle down with right? I always try to paint a whole picture. With hoe phase you mean a person that has never been in a stable relationship? That raises suspicion in me if I am not just another mark in her book and if she can't convince me otherwise its not happening. If she just had many partners but longer serious relationships then all good. When I am single and want to stay single I tend to have fun without much care aswell, why should I deny that to women? Remember that if you enter a relationship with a person y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/26 05:56 AM
–	Question for bluepilers . At a base level Is self improvement just to get some 🐱 bad , in any way? If yes please explain. No but I do it because I care about my appearance. Dating women was a side effect not the main goal for improvement. Generally I carry the opinion that you yourself should want to improve and not because of some outside factors. It seems hollow and unmanly to me if you only do X because you want to impress someone. Its not long lived either, imagine getting into a long relationship with a fitness girl for example and then she can watch you detoriate because your motivation was access to pussy no…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/26 05:47 AM
3	CMV: Men in their 20s should date around and play the field By not feeling akward. You start dates with small talk etc and then move the conversation to boundaries etc. I basically asked my dates the full palette lol like what they think men and womens role in a relationship are, if they want kids later, if they think humans are mostly bad or good etc basically painting a whole picture of them while telling them what I think aswell. The "longest relationship" question I simply slipped in at some point usually at the point were I come clean myself that I …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/26 05:35 AM
1	CMV: Men in their 20s should date around and play the field Everyone free to do what they want. However (and this counts for men aswell) when I dated in my late 20's one of my favourite questions was simply asking how many relationships they had and what their longest one was. If you couldnt manage to be in a relationship for at least 2 years or longer it would be a red flag for me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/26 05:14 AM
2	CMV: Men in their 20s should date around and play the field Didnt OP generalise? He didn't say "Reddit men in their 20's"	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/26 05:08 AM
3	CMV: Men in their 20s should date around and play the field I think to much thought went into this. Simply life your dating life without a plan. You be suprised what happens if you dont force it. I spent nearly my whole 20s in a happy relationship that ended when we grew to much apart. Then I enjoyed being single for 2 years dated around a bit and then found a person I felt like I could settle down with again. All those women came into my life when I stopped caring so thats my experience. I never really played around, it was always clear to me that I wan…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/26 05:07 AM
2	Real relationships cannot replace escorting. Rehearsing and preparing answers is a pretty common way people with autism build social fluency, I thank that dating show about people with autism for teaching me that. Where I’d still push back a bit is the idea that an escort is the best place to do that kind of practice. For things like answering what your favorite movie is or calibrating how much you talk, you don’t need a paid, high-stakes, pseudo-romantic setting. You can get that reps in lower pressure environments where the feedback is m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 04:25 PM
0	Women don't chase Chad because women don't experience post-nut clarity You are right that's the definition of a trap, my use of the word "trap" is being used in the standard metaphorical sense of a psychological mechanism or bias that leads to a predictable, self-defeating or non-optimal outcome where I feel like I “slipped into” a pattern rather than actively chose it step-by-step. Or in short I used a metaphor here a "cognitive bias trap" and didnt talk about a physical snare-like mechanism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 01:11 PM
2	Why ranking people 1–10 doesn’t really work. It’s not clickbait, it’s just a different claim than the one you keep responding to. And what am I supposed to gain from a "clickbait" on reddit? Karma? Ad revenue lol?	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 12:19 PM
2	Why ranking people 1–10 doesn’t really work. That’s not backtracking, that’s the actual point. “Traits matter” doesn’t automatically mean “you can rank people on a stable 1–10 scale.” Those are two different claims. My post is about the second one. The fact that patterns exist doesn’t make the ranking system accurate or useful at the individual level.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 11:46 AM
3	Real relationships cannot replace escorting. I saw you got a good reply already let me just underline it. I think you’re overestimating how much “practice” needs to look like a controlled training environment. Dating isn’t really like a drill you perfect in isolation. A lot of what makes someone attractive is reacting to real unpredictability, not rehearsed scenarios. Paying someone to simulate that tends to miss the point, because you both know it’s a setup. Also, the fact that you already cringe at the idea of explaining it is kind of yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 10:38 AM
1	Why ranking people 1–10 doesn’t really work. I agree that if you take a large enough sample, you’ll see clear trends in how people rate photos. The limitation is that you’re measuring consensus in a very specific setup, not a stable “real world attractiveness score.” Once you change context or include interaction, those ratings shift a lot. So it works for describing group trends, but turning it into a single objective number for individuals is where it breaks down.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 10:33 AM
2	Why ranking people 1–10 doesn’t really work. If everyone actually agreed with that, these discussions wouldn’t keep happening. A lot of people here clearly do treat it like a fairly fixed hierarchy, that’s where the whole 1–10 scale, top percent framing, and “winners vs losers” language comes from.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 10:31 AM
2	Why ranking people 1–10 doesn’t really work. The difference between us is that you’re treating those patterns like they form a fairly stable hierarchy with clear winners, while I’m saying they stay probabilistic and context-dependent even at the individual level.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 10:23 AM
1	Why ranking people 1–10 doesn’t really work. I don’t really disagree that there are patterns and that attraction is influenced by context, culture, and traits like status or education. But what you’re describing is more like different probability distributions in different environments, not a single consistent ranking system for individuals. The fact that the same traits have different effects depending on context is actually the reason a stable “X/10 with compensations” model breaks down. So yes, there’s structure at a group level but tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 09:59 AM
11	Real relationships cannot replace escorting. I think your hesitation is actually doing a lot of useful work here. Yes, you can use escorting as a kind of “practice” for logistics or confidence, and some people do report it helps them get more comfortable with the mechanics of dating and sex. So that part isn’t totally wrong. But your discomfort is also pointing at something important. The “practice” framing only really works if you separate physical execution from emotional meaning. The moment you care about intimacy having mutual directio…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 09:47 AM
9	Real relationships cannot replace escorting. Escorting is clearly a different experience. It removes pressure, expectations, and a lot of the social complexity that comes with dating. For some people that can feel simpler and even relieving. Where I disagree is the idea that it replaces anything in the emotional or relational sense. It’s still a transaction. That matters because the validation comes from payment, not mutual desire or genuine choice. Those are very different psychologically, even if the surface experience feels similar. It …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 09:44 AM
1	Why ranking people 1–10 doesn’t really work. That still assumes you can reliably identify a stable “baseline” for looks, which is where it starts to break down. Even physical attractiveness isn’t consistent enough across people to anchor predictions like that, and traits don’t really compensate in a linear way either they interact a lot and depend on context. So you might see broad trends at a group level, but turning that into a predictable formula for individuals is where it stops working. That's were I am trying to make a point with wit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 09:39 AM
2	Why ranking people 1–10 doesn’t really work. There is some truth to assortative matching, but I think people also “adjust” ratings after seeing a couple together. Plus, similarity isn’t just looks, it’s lifestyle, personality, social circle, etc. So it can look like people are within 2 points, but that’s more perception + broader matching than proof of a clean 1–10 scale.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 07:03 AM
–	Did you learn and use certain strategies for dating? I only started dating with 26, had a very long relationship before but that happened very instantly as I simply asked my ex out to be my gf when we first met. Going on dates was new to me. What helped me was just being blunt and open with what I wanted and who I am. Thought I had characteristics that women generally did not like that I suppressed on my first dates. When I started to talk about my ambitions, how I viewed the world etc and asked those things in return aswell it was alot more refre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 06:56 AM
1	Why ranking people 1–10 doesn’t really work. I think this is a solid way to think about it, and measuring % of interest would definitely be more meaningful than a 1–10 score. The limitation is that you’d be measuring performance in a specific context (photos, short interaction, specific sample), not a fixed “desirability value.” And once you include real interaction, chemistry and context start to matter a lot more, which makes it harder to reduce to a single number. So you can probably model trends pretty well, but turning that into a sta…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 06:40 AM
1	Why ranking people 1–10 doesn’t really work. I’m not expecting perfect objectivity. The issue is that if someone can be a 3 to one person and a 7 to another, the number isn’t very stable or predictive. At that point it’s less a “scale” and more a rough opinion that changes depending on who’s looking and the context. So yeah, you can talk about general trends, but using a single number for individuals doesn’t really hold up in practice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 06:31 AM
1	Why ranking people 1–10 doesn’t really work. I don’t think we actually disagree that traits like height, money, and looks correlate with better outcomes. The point is that correlation doesn’t turn into a clean, single ranking system. You’re combining multiple distributions and acting like they produce one stable scoreboard, when in reality they interact and depend a lot on context. Also, calling every later relationship a compromise is more of a framing choice than an objective conclusion as people pair up for different reasons at differen…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 06:25 AM
2	Why ranking people 1–10 doesn’t really work. Yeah if a number really captured someone’s value, you wouldn’t need a “but” every time. The fact that people constantly override the rating with other traits kind of proves it’s not a complete or reliable ranking.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 05:23 AM
1	Why ranking people 1–10 doesn’t really work. No one’s denying that looks, height, and money matter on average. The issue is treating that like a deterministic ranking system. These traits shift probabilities, not guarantee outcomes. There’s huge overlap, and context (social circle, personality, environment) changes a lot. Also, defining “winners” as guys who got a certain type of partner at a certain age is just one narrow lens, not an objective scoreboard. So yeah, patterns exist but they don’t collapse into a clean hierarchy where geneti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 05:18 AM
0	Women don't chase Chad because women don't experience post-nut clarity A trap doesn't have to be set up intentionally.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/26 05:14 AM
1	Women don't chase Chad because women don't experience post-nut clarity Because it doesn’t enter your mind. Like you thinks okay she's a bit weird but she is hot. You simply fall more easily into a trap were your sexual attraction trumps reason.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/26 08:24 PM
0	Why ranking people 1–10 doesn’t really work. I don’t disagree that there are aggregate trends (like height being preferred on average). The issue is jumping from “there’s a distribution” to “people can be cleanly ranked on a single scale.” Attraction traits aren’t independent or purely additive they interact a lot, and context changes how they’re perceived. So yeah, patterns exist at the population level, but that doesn’t translate into a stable, universal ranking system for individuals.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/26 05:36 PM
2	Why ranking people 1–10 doesn’t really work. I agree that ranking exists in specific situations (apps, jobs, social groups). But that’s not the same as one fixed ranking of a person overall. The same person can rank very differently depending on the context, which already breaks the idea of a single scale like 1–10. And it’s not that everything is random, it’s that outcomes come from both what you do and factors you don’t fully control.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/26 05:04 PM
3	Why ranking people 1–10 doesn’t really work. I get what you’re saying, but it assumes there’s some objective percentile ranking everyone agrees on. In reality, even “looks” aren’t weighted the same by different people, and context changes ratings a lot. So the problem isn’t just men vs women using scales differently, it’s that the underlying idea of a clean, universal ranking doesn’t really exist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/26 04:56 PM
5	Women don't chase Chad because women don't experience post-nut clarity I experienced that with a woman I wasn't compatible with. With my gf I didn't have that. I see post nut clarity simply as enabling your gut feeling again instead of letting your dick do the thinking.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/26 01:59 PM
1	Conspiracy : We will see never seen levels off self improving in the next Years for Men, and it will get really bad. I think you’re taking a real trend (more men focusing on self-improvement) and stretching it into a runaway “arms race” that doesn’t really hold up. Going to the gym becoming normal doesn’t mean steroids, surgery, and body hacks become universal. Most of those have serious health costs, legal limits, and diminishing returns. Even now, they exist mostly in niches, not as a mainstream path. What usually happens instead is equilibrium: as baseline fitness and grooming rise, the “competition” shifts…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/26 01:56 PM
1	Conspiracy : We will see never seen levels off self improving in the next Years for Men, and it will get really bad. I think you’re taking a real trend (more men focusing on self-improvement) and stretching it into a runaway “arms race” that doesn’t really hold up. Going to the gym becoming normal doesn’t mean steroids, surgery, and body hacks become universal. Most of those have serious health costs, legal limits, and diminishing returns. Even now, they exist mostly in niches, not as a mainstream path. What usually happens instead is equilibrium: as baseline fitness and grooming rise, the “competition” shifts…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/26 01:56 PM
2	Conspiracy : We will see never seen levels off self improving in the next Years for Men, and it will get really bad. I think you’re taking a real trend (more men focusing on self-improvement) and stretching it into a runaway “arms race” that doesn’t really hold up. Going to the gym becoming normal doesn’t mean steroids, surgery, and body hacks become universal. Most of those have serious health costs, legal limits, and diminishing returns. Even now, they exist mostly in niches, not as a mainstream path. What usually happens instead is equilibrium: as baseline fitness and grooming rise, the “competition” shifts…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/26 01:56 PM
3	Women’s sexual desire rapidly declines once in a relationship and continues to decline over the course of the relationship, while men’s desire remains constant. [Graph In Comments] include humorous bright toy badge capable tease encourage axiomatic joke This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact	/r/BlackPillScience	20/08/25 10:22 AM
20	Men choose to have half their stuff taken in divorce Nice story you came up with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/25 10:01 AM
1	Despite claiming that women have better friendships women are as lonly as men Sounds like a terrible scenario and a toxic relationship. I hope that man can break out and find a wife he is actually happy with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/25 11:49 PM
1	Despite claiming that women have better friendships women are as lonly as men No not really. Women have way better social circles than men do they are simply less likely to sit at home alone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/25 01:00 PM
1	Most alpha/sigma grindset guys or dating coaches are really just normie/attractive men subconsciously preying on the undesirable Yes and if you fall for that, you are an idiot. Of course no one wants to watch videos were a guy keeps failing approaches/humilating himself and no one has the balls to post such things. Dating coaches are usually attractive guys. The cases were they are just average or even below you strangely never see an in field video of them putting their teachings into practice. They will just sit and talk bs. Not mad at either at them, its your own free decision to listen to them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/25 11:58 AM
1	How to talk to women for relationships vs friends with benefits vs hooking up? Have your first time with a partner, dont do a hookup. Lol hookups are for people who want intimacy but have to many issues to go for a serious rls.	/r/seduction	28/01/25 01:05 PM
3	How to talk to women for relationships vs friends with benefits vs hooking up? When you have had sex you will stop putting it so much on a pedestal. Its nice and feels great with a partner you bonded with but sometimes its just to satisfy your needs and yoi dont need to bond for that. Tho let me say this: Sex with partner>Hookup sex, you won't miss out on anything if you dont do casual dates.	/r/seduction	28/01/25 12:58 PM
1	How to talk to women for relationships vs friends with benefits vs hooking up? In my experience its enough if you made her cum had at least about 15-10 min penetrative sex and finish aswell. Didn't think latter part was important but I once couldn't finish bec I guess porn fucking with me and she didnt took that well at all.	/r/seduction	28/01/25 12:54 PM
0	Women want taller men more than men want shorter women How is she coping in that sentence, are you stupid?	/r/BlackPillScience	23/12/24 12:03 PM
1	Did I just get the friendzone of the year? 9/10 should be living life on cheat mode at least in dating aspect. Comes down to who you believe but for some thats the max a guy can be.	/r/seduction	02/12/24 10:57 PM
1	Did I just get the friendzone of the year? I mean it's just that one girl with your looks I already wonder why you're sticking so long around with her. Not a fan of the whole beta/alpha stuff, I always think of furries when hearing it, but I guess it would be self respecting to cut contact when nothing happens after the third like that guy said.	/r/seduction	02/12/24 10:54 PM
1	The best connections come when you’re not trying so hard. Just be present. I cant flirting and dont have much contact with women. When I try and analyze or think about what I should say I never got a girl. I just kinda gave up and didnt care anymore at a houseparty and its were I meet my ex. I didnt try to impress her, I didnt even think anything would come out of it. Iwas just beeing me. She was attracted to me and we ended up together for 7 years. I am single since 2 years now and when I try to flirt I still fall on my nose. Same story as back then. Meet a girl durin…	/r/seduction	02/12/24 10:04 PM
1	When is honesty the best choice? I'm not a virgin but I was in a longterm rl that ended when I was 26. Never dated. I am now 28 and over it and looking to try dating for the first time. I been honest if this came up, some react suprised when I tell them I had only one sexual partner so far. Idk if its a red flag for some women I honestly dont care anymore. When I started dating I would try to hide things or act differently than I am, putting on an act. Im now tired of this, I rather want them to like me for my honest and genuin…	/r/seduction	01/12/24 10:10 AM