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This is an example of a woman who doesn't realize shes looking at a mirror, cause he's boring and beneath you, yet you also struggle to meet people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:20 AM
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The actual reasons are: 1. Stis especially the big one. Gender roles. They cant see bi men as masculine. 3.Control. similar to the gender role reason, women wouldnt be able to control bi men like they can a average straight man. Most women know how to control a masculine "real man", they can't control a man who doesn't care about being called sassy. Also, like players/chads, they have options so women who try to withhold sex as a way to manipulate, are out of luck here too. Men on men will never…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:44 PM
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Most dudes can't afford to be open like that. Not even talking rejection some would be risking prison if they spoke bluntly about their desires
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:36 PM
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Agreed, thats why i never understood the lower your standards advice given to men or women. Relationships built on the fact that it was either them or alone will never be healthy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 09:06 PM
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Thats the problem, you seeking acceptance over your dating/sex life. People are always gonna have something to say. As long you arent going over there for anything actually devious, then have fucking fun. Unless the complainers got someone for you to date or fuck, why do you care about their opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 04:07 AM
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Tbh thats not just a red pill sentiment, ive had plenty of older women say "you will do better when you're older" when I was younger and struggling with my weight. And your right this advice is terrible if you want genuine attraction, but if not there are women who date for stability. Be forewarned tho, it would be terrible to be in a relationship like this and expect consistent intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:59 AM
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People play stupid, but pretending you have gold despite no one wanting to buy it, makes you delusional. To think a social creature can be confident despite no one genuinely desiring them only comes from those who are no where close to being in the same situation as those they spew this bs to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:19 AM
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As someone who lost weight, is the resentment comes from people lying in your face about it, my confidence didnt rise like my social anxiety disorder didnt go away, I didnt become less awkward, motherfuckers just decided to overlook it. Im all for preferences, but i cant unsee that switch up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:24 PM
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Of course you can debate it, you just cant force people to do anything about it. I think the problem is, and why I think this is more of an liberal issue, is that implications of why youre attracted to who attracted to. Using your example of women going after the "wrong" men. Feminists here and on social media in general like to moralize dating advice to get men to support feminism, claiming misogyny stops men from getting dates. Women who flock to men like tate, clav, and others in that circle …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 02:19 AM
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Bingo!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 12:54 AM
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The pushback against the pills is because it challenges the "if you try you will succeed" mantra that keeps society pushing. Its comforting when we tell ourselves that everyone who wins is a hard worker and everyone who loses just didnt try hard enough or worked smart enough, or anything that dismisses the thought that some people dont even have the prerequisites to even play this game. Similar to homelessness. Everyone whos not, works hard, those who are, are all drug addicted bums who arent wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 10:26 PM
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Well society does it for reasons. 1st being is the repeal the 19th crowd. I feel thats one of, if not the biggest reasons why people are still playing stupid about this, the fear of giving those people a leg up will be harmful(i cant blame them, giving the climate rn). And unless society can produce a legit alt, the truth is just gonna leave a bunch of men angry and depressed. Maybe at best, we get the west version of hikkomori, at worst we get the west version of isis Low key I think it is play…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:34 AM
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We pretend because theres no ethical solution to this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:15 AM
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My philosophy on this is that man or woman you're playing with fire cheating and or being with a married person. Idc whats right or wrong, I care that theres too many cases of people getting killed for being caught. That theres a lot of people who take those vows very seriously. But speaking ideally, violence should never be the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:43 AM
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Ive realized I rather have genuine FWB than to be in a traditional relationships. I know im not a person who can stick with one person, nor want someone living with me. plus I dont want kids, so marriage is out the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:22 AM
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But shes not a normie, she was an of prostitute
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:17 AM
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I think its an example of power differentials being one of the biggest scams out here. Cause if this is the case then rich men going after poor women in America should be viewed the same way passport bros are by feminists. That there should be a rule or a societal push for rich men to only date within their tax bracket, but that will never happen. Also every OF model's under the age of 25, pages should be deleted, since were so concerned but that will never happen either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:17 AM
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I see him as an example of safe beta who thought that find female friends advice would work.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:59 AM
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I mean this is no different than blackpill. I actually agree that men who struggle might as well get over there hangups with paying for it, cause if you do have limited options, chances are those options only there for your money as well, so might as well know upfront. As far as complaining goes, at a certain point you have to let the anger go and focus on other things in life if you can. If you cant I also support the other thing that rhymes with cope as well, as I ultimately understand that no…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:22 PM
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Its a skill that most people should be able to learn, easier while young, but bluepillers do overestimate everybody being able to become proficient in it or even reach the bare minimum. Its call gift of gab for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:03 PM
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Late stating this but people usually dont count proxy violence when it comes to this topic. People dont think about women who get men in their life to enact violence on their behalf.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:13 PM
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Yep, ive had an incident with a family member when I was younger that im glad I was bigger than, cause if her strength matched her aggressiveness that outcome wouldve been bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:07 PM
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No its not, asking implies the man doesnt get social cues
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:29 PM
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Bluepill still has life cause that blind optimism works for those who can follow the script, redpill will still have life, as theres no real difference between it and blackpill. Its just that the redpill believes everyman can win and the blackpill knows thats not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:21 PM
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I know we usually assume the men here have autism, but i wonder if we also should assume the same for the women, cause I dont see this working on most nt women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:38 AM
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I exclude those who tried it and decided it wasnt for them. Also my preference doesn't mean I think theyre wrong for changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:16 AM
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You're right, doesnt change the fact that most men arent going to find being the guy she switches up for cool. No matter how you frame it, men arent going to be ok feeling like a bench warmer. Outside that its all personal preference. As long shes been consistent im cool with either waiting or jumping right in.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:37 PM
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No, I just repeated what I saw on another thread. Hence me saying it wouldnt work
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:50 PM
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You flew past how I said it wouldnt work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:48 PM
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No, there is no ethical solution some dudes are shit out of luck. The only thing I can think of is maybe ai robots, or a secular monastery. I would say find a way to reduce the stigma, but we live in a competitive world so I dont see that happening at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:42 PM
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Yep gotta make sure its from the female perspective for BP to be accepted
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 03:36 PM
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Your right people should stop saying theres someone for everyone, or that self improvement cures all for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 03:02 PM
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Pretending its just social engineering wont make it go away
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 02:58 PM
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This is only the case if you assume that we all filter out the same men. Why would you believe that? Its not 100 but there are noticeable patterns
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 04:41 PM
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Just because theyre not dating anyone doesnt mean theyre celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 08:38 AM
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It is as you put that spin on it, only difference is you are more realistic, it still means you find majority of men unnattractive, which you arent disputing, which is the main point. Im not complaining I understood the day I found out were mammals that we play the same mating game like another mammal in this kingdom. Its like I said, people should stop lying that everyone can win if they put the work in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 04:22 AM
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The problem is that your attempt to sanitize this still doesnt change my point that you guys still find the majority unattractive which is what 80/20 is talking about. It doesnt care about your reasons its just the fact its true. Alot of these pill issues wouldnt exist if people were more honest from the jump and didnt promote stupid platitudes like theres someone for everyone when clearly thats not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 03:28 AM
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All of that just reinforces the fact i accept the abortion double standard it doesnt justify how women can abandon the kid via adoption and safe havens which is what I was talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 05:20 PM
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Its weird the same people who hate the 80/20 talk confirm it in so many ways. Like either its wrong or that women do find the majority of men unattractive so they either settle or stay alone. It cant be both
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 11:27 AM
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I agree on the abortion side as a woman aborting leaves no one to take care of vs paper abortion leaves a child potentially hungry. The double standard lies in the fact a woman can give up her responsibilities thru adoption and safe havens without having to pay support
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 01:59 AM
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The problem is that its not an either or thing. Plenty of relationships have both even as they age. Myself structured my standards around this. Also I dont think the problem is the either or, its the fact alot of these men complaining dont have the choice of experiencing both. So the only option feels like a consolation prize even if its genuine
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 12:01 PM
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Even then theres still patterns on quality hence the pushback against being settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 11:50 AM
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There is randomness to it but patterns can be seen. There are exceptions to the rule but theres a pattern where you can generally see the type of man who gets women effortlessly and the type of man who gets the short end of the stick. Its funny when people claim its random but somehow its not random enough to include those who are shit out of luck in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 08:38 AM
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They really dont get it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:19 AM
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Just like any other group of people on the lower end of the totem pole, some handle it very well, some settle into relationships where neither party is attracted to each other, some become the drugged out zombies you see on the street, some realize theyre a "different gender" or they switch teams, some checkout. I mean you cant expect everyone to handle being at the bottom the exact same way you want them to handle it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 05:19 PM
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Again a whole Lotta projection cause ive said nothing of the sort. I dont believe in marriage, I never said i wanted a virgin. Idk where these two responses are coming from.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 04:56 PM
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Whole lotta projection right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 04:54 PM
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Nothing defeatist about knowing your place on the totem pole. Therapy isnt going to reframe away the fact that hes unnattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:24 AM
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Sad truth is that some men are going to have to pay no matter what they do and some arent. Besides those who have to pay atleast know up front shes faking. Self awareness teaches which lane to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:21 AM
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Agreed. Never been a fan of the lower standards argument the relationships ive seen fit this model arent pretty(no pun intended). I do feel like being outside your type is going to mute the good the person does and magnify any of the bad times.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 06:42 PM
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Tho I wouldnt say blame, I do think its unrealistic to think people in this situation shouldnt care about it. Missing out on one of life's greatest experiences and having to be around those who get to enjoy it has to be depressing. Especially in a culture where its moral failure to be excluded while ignoring the fact plenty of terrible people succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 06:39 PM
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the fact that this was dodged speaks volumes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 07:23 PM
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No one wants to price themselves out of the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:25 PM
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Well yeah what does it do? Its like how people in high school give the loser they feel sorry for the homecoming title, its fake as hell and wont change how they truly feel about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:43 AM
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Eh i doubt i would work outside of patronizing feel good words, it would have to be genuine like the kpop movement was to asian men. Hell even short kings feels like a backhanded compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:40 AM
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Yeah, as the male of any species in this kingdom one of our major goals is to be chosen, that cant be reframed away. Its like that one smiths song that says…" I know it's over and it never really began But in my heart it was so real And you even spoke to me and said "If you're so funny Then why are you on your own tonight? And if you're so clever Then why are you on your own tonight?" Those who can live without wouldnt need body positivity in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:30 AM
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Cause unless it results in more sexual relationships for those men its pointless. We cant lie to ourselves like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:05 AM
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Religions created by men who will never suffer from the repercussions of accepting those generalizations. I get where man vs bear is coming from, but I also see where that logic ends up hurting the most, and its not the men who benefits from saying that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 01:19 AM
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I generalized my self based on what a %? of other men claimed? Thats the logic your using cause I can find statements from "green" people that justify generalizing that group too. Again this is logic your using is very faulty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 12:37 AM
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Its not inconsistent you just dont like the logic being used on groups deem socially unacceptable to generalize in your group. Alot of discourse online is about which groups its ok to generalize and which are not. People understand the dangers of being generalized yet for some reason want to find ways to do it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 12:30 AM
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Well the difference is two fold, one is those that figured out theres money in keeping men in the anger phase like fresh and fit, whatever or any other podcasters who mainly bring on of girls. On the other theres the blackpill, where people realized that the redpill has a bluepill blind spot where it assumes every man can win if they try and alot of these dudes found out that gym didnt matter or whatever style of clothes they tried, hobbies etc... they was still stuck. The problem is that this s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 05:23 AM
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For those that can, probably dont even follow none of this. Its the ones who cant thats the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 04:20 PM
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Idk for what you want that might be the only thing that would work. Those that can decenter wouldnt even be here. Others? Might need to bring back monasteries, or at least find a way to create a secular one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 03:06 PM
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No you/women can have all the preferences you want. Just saying why men will have a problem with that no matter how much you call it insecure or claim its controlling
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 02:30 PM
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Chase engagement all you want, but you know men arent talking about women who experimented vs those with a pattern when it comes to this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 01:51 PM
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I doubt that cause this topic on this sub mainly only focuses on women who have a long past not those who experimented.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 01:27 PM
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Decide what be more specific
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 01:24 PM
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For this to work the whole culture around sex would have to change as its not just an external problem, people would have to stop shaming those who struggle with women for that to work and thats not going to happen anytime soon Edit: *internal problem
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 01:19 PM
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Wow its like you purposely misconstrue an argument. Its one thing if it was one or two times and she said never again, but if shes is known for hooking up then thats different. Even if its genuine, men are going to feel a certain way about it like if everyone was paying 300 for a bundled gaming console but when its you, you have to pay 600 and its refurbished and the game is missing. Also saying that Casual sex sucks for women proves the point even further by the fact that those men who got that…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 01:04 PM
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This isnt limited to red pill, self improvement in general is one big hamster wheel. Both red and blue pill both claim that if whatever advice you give doesnt work, then that person isnt trying hard enough or needs to try something else. Cause we as a society believes in everyone making it, which isnt true and while I agree with the message of keep trying for the youth, at a certain point we have to realize when youre putting someone on a infinite loop of self improvement that causes the insecur…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 09:38 AM
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Oh brother your using self report studies? Most people only have one partner this year right lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 07:29 PM
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If having sex early on is important to you, filtering and rejecting the women who are not willing to have sex with you early on is the way in which you could avoid getting treated "unfairly". Thats not avaliable to most men complaining, if it was the complaints wouldnt exist. Furthermore, being hookup material doesn't necessarily translate into "boyfriend" material (and yes, there are some men who complain that no woman takes them seriously and are unwilling to get seriously involved with them. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:19 AM
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Eh men who arent women's top picks and women after a certain age absolutely think about the negatives otherwise settling wouldnt be a thing. Too many people in relationships with those they wouldnt otherwise talk to if they had options for this to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 11:01 AM
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The point isnt he asked, its whether or not hes in that group of men who can get it. Some get it and some get told that she's not that type of girl or that it ruin what they got going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:04 AM
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The problem is that not every dude is able to level up, hence them complaining. Not every dude is going to be able to experience both sides, thats life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 02:58 AM
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Its about women who normally give up fast just to turnaround and make the "special guy" wait. A woman who makes everyman wait isnt going to get this complaint. The point is, people are acting stupid as to why those men are complaining. I didnt deny that it happens to both genders, humanity is awful in this way and even worse want those people to suffer in silence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 08:48 PM
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Another "money isnt everything" thread made by people who dont have to worry about it. Who dont realize how condensending it is to say this to struggling people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:45 PM
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Its not about the hookups, its the fact that some men realize there are tiers when it comes to sexual access. That some men arent going to be the type to get hookups and theres no way to reframe the fact that they had to wait for something another man got way sooner and didnt have to jump thru hoops to get . The problem is consistency, men arent going to complain if you treated everyone you been with the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 07:37 PM
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All im saying is its not a either or thing. Pretending that making one man wait for something that others got on the same day isnt going to make a man feel special. If shes consistent, then thats a different story as most men wouldnt have a problem with a woman waiting if she made others wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:36 PM
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Its weird how some of you are committed to not understanding why men feel a certain way for being put on a waiting list just to find out some dudes got instant access
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 06:49 PM
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People are going to lie, but it is a submissive act. People do see it as a bad act if committed alot times(women) or just once if its a man. If that wasnt the case People wouldnt have to hide a promiscuous past or their sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:03 PM
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Throwing anything at the wall and hope it sticks huh
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 01:01 PM
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I mainly use boo, and badoo
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:06 PM
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Sort of, but i think its more that i just let inner child in me play around with the camera. The one that got the most responses was just me creating a loop of my self in the mirror while on shrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:04 PM
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Someone said it the best the guys the women want wouldnt need to go to one. So no need to spend money to get rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:41 PM
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Its a mixed bag, I know dudes who specifically do better irl than dating apps, and myself who do better on apps cause I dont approach irl and prefer the woman to swipe on me first. On the other irl you have to have more charisma to overcome any deficiencies, cause not getting matches online is a looks issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 08:40 PM
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Theres no difference between the two other than blackpill says that some men will lose no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:14 AM
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Everytime I see a thread like this and the responses I truly understand why monogamy was installed and why most religions push it. Men dont get that for the most part the kind of attraction they want from women isnt avaliable to most of them. And women dont understand that no dude wants to pay more for something another man got for free. That being single is better than being a benchwarmer
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 07:59 AM
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That are known influences in desire. Pretending otherwise would be ignoring body count(low or high) cant kill or strengthen it. Pretending that its 100% innate is foolish to argue
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:50 AM
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Sexual desire isnt a 100% innate thing nor is everyone's reason for the desire or lack thereof is the same. Preselection bias is a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 01:26 AM
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It is an opinion unless youre claiming you can vouch for individuals reason is the same
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 05:12 PM
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You make it seem like its rare for groups to be wrong. It would depend on what the shared opinion is and what "bettering oneself" looks like and the ROI is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:57 PM
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It still makes it a shared opinion, no matter how you frame it, it doesnt make it objective
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:37 PM
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Its not an either or thing you guys just have a monolithic opinion about certain men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:23 PM
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Yeah its being a monolith, a shared opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:19 PM
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And you know what else? labeling all men as dangerous isnt going help people against that shit its going to make people not care and splinter off in their own groups
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 11:26 AM
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I do think one of the reasons is that femcels are more likely to reject the struggling men in the community as well looking back at what happened to foreveralonewomen. That and that difference, while doesnt stop anyone from being lonely I agree, does put you in a better situation than those men. Its kind of like a middle class person having money issues vs a homeless person. Like homeless, a person in the middle class can have issues with money but its obvious complaining about it in a group of …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 10:25 AM
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Like I said i dont discount their existence, I just said I get why it happens. As someone whos been on foreveralone, and various mental health forums that dealt with social issues, 8/10 a discussion on women who claimed to be in the same shoes as a struggling man, the inevitable revelation that she wasnt, that shes had bfs or fwbs in the past always was around the corner. The mistrust didnt just pop out of nowhere. I
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:58 AM
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Yall are removed cause the majortity who claims femceldom or forever single are the happily single women with past experiences, which gives incels the impression that true femcels dont exist, just by pattern recognition.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 02:41 AM
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Im talking both men and white people and im speaking in general/politically as this goes beyond dating. This logic helps fuel conservative outreach rather you like to admit it or not. Only masochists and male "feminists" are going to be ok with being labeled and treated as dangerous to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:30 PM
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And as leftist we say its wrong when they do it and get upset. This whole shit is hypocritical knowing youre not ok with bw being generalized. The power differential is why I say fighting fire with fire is going to make it worse cause at the end of the day they have the bigger gun and clearly alot of them are not going for equity based generalizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:20 PM
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Klansmen is not a immutable trait, you know what I meant, and no im not a turn the other cheek I just know fighting fire with fire is going to fail and will make the situation worse. Im a person who sees both conservatives and leftist women like yourself and op say that as a black man I should be generalized and be ok with that and that im supposed to tell yall apart?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 08:06 PM
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You're absolutely are and this level neuroticism is going to make things worse for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:38 PM
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This shit also plays a part as to why people are isolating more. Its one thing to be cautious of strangers, but this level of neuroticism isnt healthy at all. And as an actual black person this logic is faulty as hell you cant pick and choose whos ok to generalize
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:31 PM
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In a perfect world this a great statement, in this one however is a great way to be taken advantage of. Too many sociopaths to believe in this
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 12:24 PM
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I noticed that on every mental health forum that delt with social issues. From wp to sas, the pattern was hard to ignore
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 07:23 PM
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If those are the only options then they might as well get the ai. Theyre getting transactional love regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:59 PM
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Clearly youre not the targeted audience
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:57 PM
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Who calls that simping? Simping involves doing shit for women who dont give a shit about you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:55 PM
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I agree to a certain extent, but it has to be rooted in reality. Meaning said man needs something that women like for that to work
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 06:54 PM
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Nothing wrong with the mentality if its true. If they want to still try thats fine, but if those people want to give up, I cant sit here and try to shame them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 03:18 PM
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Cause either they're stuck in the anger phase or realize that the knowledge isnt going to help them achieve what they want. Redpill usually turns blue when this is acknowledged, but there are prerequisites a man needs to have for the info to actually benefit them. Knowing how dating is for the general public(had to before people use anecdotes or exceptions to the rule) doesnt help those who dont qualify.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:58 AM
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Does it tho? Maybe for those who arent introspective. I mean this is where the redpill turns blue for me cause dating isnt fair, for some people will naturally thrive, some will need help and some are shit out of luck. Idk why it bothers people like you to acknowledge that some people will lose no matter what they do
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 10:46 AM
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Good thing I never claimed that. However the reasons and the vagueness of disclosing it behind that preference is sus
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:17 AM
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Its a bad thing to not like people who smile in your face while having the same beliefs as those who hate you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:59 PM
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I mean youre trying make it seem like a bad thing, but like i said Im not attacking women, its just another form hypocrisy i see from liberals. Its another reminder that the party is full of people pretending to like each other cause Republicans are blatantly against their group
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:12 PM
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I dont care, most bisexual men will either find accepting women to date or just hide it. I dont use this knowledge to bash women, cause at least conservative women are honest about why they have that preference and dont hide why, I use it to call out performative liberal women who would otherwise bash men for being homophobic. And besides this wouldnt be considered mens issues as the manosphere is hetero. This is a lgbtq issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:38 PM
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See this topic brings out the hit dogs, cause its not the preference, its the reason behind it. People can understand that having friends or partners of a certain group doesn't exempt you from having issues with said group, thats why the whole but I have black friends rebuttal is laughed at, but when it comes to this people act stupid. Have the preference but I cant deny its one of those shit tests that works in exposing those who otherwise pretends to be a fan of the lgbtq
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:11 AM
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The manosphere preys on the fact society is dishonest about how dating game isnt fair for everyone. The pills preys on the fact that society is two-faced when it comes to telling struggling men that their personality matters more than looks or that misogyny is why they struggle knowing damn well its not
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 10:04 AM
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You havent rebutted anything you just made a huge claim that women are automatically called biphobic, with no divulgence on their reasons. for me to accept that would mean I would have to ignore the discussions ive seen around it on here and other places on social media. No it would make you straight, and thats why it isnt an accurate comparison neither is that single dad one as parents come with something. Unlike bisexuality where you cant claim that theyre all like this without stereotyping. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:41 PM
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Its not the preference, its the reason behind the preference that indicates it. Not really hard to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:58 PM
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2 things, I do believe in it, I just said not everyone was raised to believe in leagues and to be fair there are ex of ugly people being exceptional in another area to by pass the ugly. Would I be flattered, no, but the difference is men who feel this way will never try to get a ugly woman locked up for it cause she didnt know her place
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:55 PM
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Cause not everyone is raised with an hierarchical mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:05 PM
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Cause it depends on rather or not shes attractive. Just like theres no such thing as women being nerds, basement dweller or other forms of loser, just either ugly or not. Men are very forgiving
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 12:01 AM
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Man youre really out of touch
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:25 AM
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True i seen a tiktok of a woman whos never had anyone and she sounds just like the chronically single men. Im different than alot of blackpillers in that I acknowledge true femcels exist, its just that years of women claiming it or claiming to be forever alone just to find out they either have experiences and or people who want them, it makes it harder for true femcels to be believed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:13 AM
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There arent none, hence why the pills remain and will continue to remain. People who hate the pills just want men to figure out their place in the dating intuitively/indirectly, the cynic in me thinks because the people thats supposed to be excluded arent meant to know that they are, theyre meant to believe that they just need to keep trying forever and hope they buy being placed on a neverending hamster wheel for "self improvement" for something that will never come. Hence now advice is to do t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 02:39 PM
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Not really if it wasnt for the racism alot of those conservative women would vote republican
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 02:59 PM
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I was pilled before it even had a name. As a teen I was told to stay away from single mothers from my mom, had coworkers either tell me to get use to any woman giving interest to already have someone in the wings, to a old woman telling me I would do better when im older. To even the girl talks at lunch that started my blackpilled journey. All red pill is, despite not liking it is a guide for those who have a hard time reading between the lines. Thats why it persists despite the shaming done to …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:12 AM
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Yeah its weird for those social creatures who are struggling romantically to focus on the issue thats cause said creature to miss out on a vital part of the human experience. Wow
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 10:29 AM
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Idc, theres a balance between that and neighborhood bicycle. Most dudes just dont want a woman that every man around him has been with, outside of that we dont care that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 01:33 AM
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Only a select group of men are able to do that. Most are taking what they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 01:01 PM
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Well this is delusional as feminist women claiming only rw men are incels. The fact is women are going to choose who they want to, no matter if their beliefs match or if the dude is attractive enough to bypass all of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 09:04 AM
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The second part is what i mean, I cant speak on women socializing with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 02:25 AM
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Is it that or that autistic women are given way more leeway? With women maybe your right, but with men, Women care more about social deficiencies than men do hence the same things that can make an autistic man unbearable to women, men wont care about
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:00 AM
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People denying this when the term getting lucky exist. Casual sex isnt open for everyone. Some dudes only can get sex in a relationship and even then some can only get it from partners they dont like. Grew up seeing such depression, always complained about them yet if they get kicked out of the house, theyre depressed cause they know if that relationship truly ended, it would be a long time before they got some again, if at all. Its the reason why I dont even push "lower your standards" even if …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:56 AM
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Its also important to acknowledge that it doesnt indicate "a lack of resilience" to not stay in a situation that both parties have two different wants from. That in itself is manipulative to imply that person is weak for having a back bone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:35 AM
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Its smart to do whats ever necessary, if you can handle still being friends, do it, if not, end it. Dont let people online manipulate you into torturing yourself by staying in a situation you dont want to be in
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 12:27 AM
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Cause since the knowledge that there are men who dont have to date to get sex, most of these men are trying to figure out how to get the same or at least close to the same treament.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:23 PM
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Its great at basic stuff like emotional regulation and getting stuff off, but it misses when the issue is legit sad. Then it becomes gaslighting cause theres no way to reframe a true shitty situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 09:17 AM
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For some yeah, why run a race your not going to win?, might as well save that energy for things you can control.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 08:31 AM
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Reasonable in the way that doesnt really discount my argument that his clout is the main reason why women in his country go for him. Like I said theres ugly men near or at his level and dont have anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 02:22 AM
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Its unreasonable to assume that women would overlook his flaws for clout? Cause im quite sure there's dudes just as ugly who suffer in silence cause they dont have what he has.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 02:06 AM
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Choice of what? Women or fame?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 01:49 AM
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In that case I agree. I do push that if you dont like to socialize irl, at least try to build an online following.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:47 AM
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You mean the man so ugly he gained clout from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:45 AM
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Cause like most people said they really cant fathom not having anyone interested in them so they project that onto everyone thinking anyone who claims it must be overlooking their looksmatch. Its situations like that, that makes you realize that the men at the bottom are invisible in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:37 AM
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He credited them as to why he got better with getting hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:33 AM
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Its not silly to not run a race youre bound to lose in. Funny you say that, and while I dont like redpill podcasters, he did credit them for why he was able to hookup
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:31 AM
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People on the internet really like to dance around the obvious in ways that contradict the lies they make up in another thread. One moment women dont like older men, the next its the reason why there are more single men than women, which is hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:27 AM
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Eh I doubt having a social media would help much for alot of struggling dudes, cause again his looks carried him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 12:16 AM
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Extrovert if everything is equal. I say this as a friend to a former basement dweller who did nothing but game and watch fresh and fit all day, but still got women cause while he was autistic, he also looked like xxxtentacion so dating apps and social media worked wonders for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 11:52 PM
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Its only getting pushback cause its delusional to think the majority of struggling men are going to fall for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 11:56 AM
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Its cool to say when things are unequal in mans favor while the opposite is misogyny. Its the same way with who can be generalized and who cant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 11:53 AM
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Thanks for point this out, I was about to say this is the female equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:34 AM
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No, as much as i find issue with it, the red pill at its best just explains hierarchy in the dating world. It doesn't place blame on women it just shows that we like other mammals/animals have a mating game, and like other games there are winners and there are losers. Now my problem with the redpill is when it gets delusional and tries to preach that every man struggling can become an alpha or a dude with a harem of women. Thats when it becomes bluepilled bs. Now as far as blaming women goes, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:27 AM
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Its nobody's fault, it is what it is. Pretending that these men are looking for platonic relationships or that friendships is going to solve being unnatractive is hilarious and is the reason the pills continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:43 AM
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Yep, moving from the south to the west coast did wonders for me. And besides the way this country might be heading it wouldnt be bad to be a passport bro in the future lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 08:03 AM
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Or someone thats been in that situation and doesnt want to torture themselves again
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:07 AM
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Even tho its not set in stone, society pretending that no one gets the short end of the stick or that there aren't patterns when it comes to unnattractive people is why the pills will never go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 10:47 AM
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Its weird growing up it was promoted that men were the shallow ones who only cared about looks, but now that most people realize thats a lie coming from women who only see a certain percentage of men while the rest are invisible, now its also wrong to give anyone a shot. Which contradicts the whole theres someone for everyone, by implying some people shouldnt be chosen.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:20 AM
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It sucks but I dont think theres a answer that would satisfy both sides. I hate that republicans spotted this and took advantage of the growing situation, but their solution of rolling back the clock isn't going to bring the genuine desire these men are looking for. Hence even the tradcons are pushing for these men to be the betas they talk against. The problem with the left is that they are treating them like the right treats poor and homeless people. As a monolith. Giving them the same just wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:15 AM
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Man these stupid analogies arent going to convince those who see the double standard. The fact is women are allowed to abort(which is agree with) along with abandoning the child(which i also agree with), but men are not. Its pro choice for women and pro life bootstraps for men that says men have to be more responsible than women and that women are allowed to be treated with kid gloves and opt out of any responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:59 AM
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No more than the women willing to abandon or kill it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:37 AM
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Nevermind I thought you was justifying them going to escorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:28 AM
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Bruh its really sad how few people get this. I dont like the hateful stuff, but I completely understand the issue those dudes go thru and how i dont think theres a cure for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 01:11 PM
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I didnt mean them I meant going to a prostitute is unfavorable. The men are relevant cause those are the men she really wants. Those undesirables(rather it be by laziness or other causes that can or cannot be fixed) want genuine sex. Thats why they dont pay for it, its not genuine at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 01:04 PM
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You literally see it on the internet. Hell we just had another paper abortion talk where yet again people show that women are allowed to skip consequences even when the child is alive whereas the man has to pay regardless. The ex you used, people definitely do have a bias when it comes to who has to improve when it comes to fixing the dating field. I remember an tyt video discussing Japan's dating issues a decade ago and despite the fact that the stats they used said that more women are not want…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 11:32 AM
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However given the fact shes making them pay while other men get it for free is what also makes them a unfavorable option.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:26 PM
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No incels want genuine attraction. Doesnt mean just a relationship, they're want raw attraction that cant be bought. This also applies to why men don't like being seen as just husband material. Edit* the loneliness problem is about relationships/sex, but since theres no solutions to fix outside of the hamster wheel of self improvement people like to make it about platonic connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 10:24 PM
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Good point, where are the mentally ill women into those guys, like theyre for drug addicts, serial killers, etc...?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 05:08 AM
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Its because she has no boundaries and willing to give any man a shot. She's a walking sex doll thats why even the onlyfans girls hate her, she does more than give feet and booty pics and its making their business model look bad so she has to go. And for the rest, unless you give that same energy to 18 year old women joining OF, im not hearing that "predator" talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 08:20 AM
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No ive seen women drop friendships for similar reasons. It matters more if theyre satisfied in that area. Meaning its harder for those who struggle to maintain opposite sex friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:47 PM
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Yeah hes saying that they get away with having ulterior motives to if the woman is down for it. Hence ops claim that if two fake friends one attractive and one not, came up to her to profess their feelings one is more likely to get positive results
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 04:39 PM
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Yeah in that scenario, Yeah. But theres more openings for the attractive dude regardless of intent, thats what op means. Hell in that scenario the attractive dude can stay and play the waiting game in hopes shes willing to cheat with him, which does happen
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 04:33 PM
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What are you talking about? Men arent coddled for chosing to stick their d in crazy. They get laughed at
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 04:54 AM
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For some maybe, im not someone who denies that there are women who use, but others just want to be seen outside of the sexual lens. But yeah youre right, people break rules or downplay the situation for those who are attractive to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 03:51 AM
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Its like being rich guy finding a person who's interested in him and not his money
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 02:08 AM
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Its a defense mechanism, not saying its right but the generalization of "they only want one thing" is there to keep from spiraling. Im not a person who can be friends with a woman i find attractive, especially if I was going thru a drought, but i get their side, they thought they found someone who didnt see them as just sexual, which is basically the opposite side of men not wanting to be seen as just platonic. Thats why men who are satisfied sexually and gay men are usually the men who can hand…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:55 AM
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If thats true then we also have to acknowledge that some dudes starting lines are closer to the finish line than others. Some may say that some might just be at the finish line before the race begins.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 11:35 PM
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Its like comparing a broke person vs a frugal lottery winner. Its not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 12:54 AM
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Omg a social creature wanting to be sexually/romantically desired isnt some made up bs by society, and people online need to stop trying to pretend that it it is. I get theres no true solution for some out here, but trying to deluded those unlucky that theyre just brainwashed into wanting it, isnt the way and it just pisses them off. I rather support crispr, and AI sex bots then this B.S.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 03:25 PM
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These arguments usually end with the quiet part of men have to be the only ones responsible for their actions and women are free to be reckless as they want and get rid of their consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 11:20 AM
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Aka your either boring/passive or not attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 10:54 AM
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Admitting that only small portion of men are capable of 100% truthful and still be able to have fun while the others have dance and or pay for it, or even wait for those women to "change priorities" is not going to bring peace. I get why society/women lie about this. But I also understand that the lie is also the reason redpill/blackpill remain to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:12 AM
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Judging by the ones I grew up seeing, it wasnt pretty no pun intended. I mean seeing my cousin cry cause her boyfriend could only be around her drunk doesn't seem appealing. Not saying its impossible, but I think it depends deal breakers. Just like your millionaire story. Its one thing to not become a millionaire, but if your work can only produce a shitty place in nowheresville, then idk man that looks bleak. Overall it depends on the individuals ROI and their dealbreakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 10:26 AM
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Well it becomes a ROI problem. Why work 10x for someone thats not even going to be attracted to them for real. Its cool to be attracted to personality, but I wouldnt trust a relationship to be long lasting and sexually satisfying off just that alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 09:48 AM
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Its one of those contradictions I like pointing out. Dating pool is a swamp but the majority of people are dating. Which either means the first part is untrue and the person saying it is being overly picky or there's a lot of couples who settled for each other cause they couldn't get what they really wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 05:37 AM
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Cause the messages are for different men, attractive charismatic men are the ladies men who need to approach, and ugly and socially awkward men are to not do that as that is predatory, instead they should be losers out of sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 04:52 AM
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For women mostly likely he has something valuable she wants, and for men, either he wanted something easy or thats the best he can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 09:36 AM
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I do get the feeling some posters are here for damage control if a debate goes left or too blackpilled. Outside of that most of these "debates" are just redpill/bluepill venting cause most people already have picked a side and arent here to have their beliefs challenged.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 08:16 AM
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Bingo, technology is separating those who genuinely enjoy socializing from those who dont. Now within in the dont crowd if youre attractive enough dating apps are enough if you just want sex/relationships, but if you arent tinder/hinge/etc... material you shit out of luck unless a miracle happens and you bump into someone you like randomly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 04:23 PM
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Eh i wouldnt considered that kindness, thats just being helpful within your ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:18 AM
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But wouldnt those boundaries be considered expectations for said kindness?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:05 AM
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They're really good at manipulation. The arguments is sound until you think about and realize that those men theyre talking about arent attractive and both older and younger women would be using him for money. Those types of women don't grow outta wanting money from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 07:01 AM
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I think the nuance is that its more about how treats you vs the past men. Its fine if a girl makes a man wait if shes consistent about it, just as fine if she gives it up without going on a date as long as she treats the potential husband the same. Dont give it out free for everyone else but claim to be demisexual with me. That wait for attraction to grow strategy is risky, cause that feels more flimsy and more likely to put a man in a deadbedroom than a woman who was sexually into you from the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:53 AM
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Well with how things are going, those men better stop caring what society thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:43 AM
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People really arguing that men shouldnt avoid women who arent sexually attracted to them? No wonder deadbedrooms are a thing. Dont get me wrong, personality matters, but if shes not physically attracted to you, the more bs youre gonna have to deal with in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 06:40 AM
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That mentality leads to people being taken advantage of. Im all for kindness for the sake of it to a certain point, but if you're kind but only get negative treatment, people are going to feel a certain way about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:11 AM
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You can be anything, just dont be boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 02:08 AM
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Its both, men want sex for both biological and social reasons. Now i agree that he shouldnt base his entire overall value on it, but it does matter otherwise it wouldnt be a stigma against adult virgin men. If one wants a relationship and or sex the man in question has to either meet the general guidelines the opposite sex wants in order to be granted access or hope and pray that he finds a niche woman that doesn't care. Most average men can either meet it or can manipulate their way around it. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 02:51 PM
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Some men do, some men just hate hearing some women be hypocritical about being fluid with their roles yet want men to stay with theirs. Me personally Idc im not a traditional man so I rather be with non traditional women than fake having to pretend im a macho dude just to burn out and be miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 01:36 PM
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It depends, if the roi is shitty then sure,become a neet, but if you have a chance you should always look to maximize your stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:40 AM
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It is all about creating a filter/screening mechanism to get the 'spergs out of the dating pool without causing the 'spergs to be angry about it. Bingo, ironically its making the situation worse, as the internet/redpill has helped them piece together what's going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 12:28 AM
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It depends. One or two fine, but if youre rejected alot then it becomes a cope cause they all cant be bullets.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:25 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:23 AM
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One, women are afraid of rejection, two our roles are more beneficial to society. Protectors are needed, people who are willing to do the hard grueling work are needed as they keep society running smoothly. I will say as much as im for women wanting to be free, I will say too much freedom while expecting the otherside to stay as they are will come at a cost.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 10:37 AM
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Its like men get denied the full cake while women sometimes only get the frosting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:36 PM
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Sure And I guess you believe all pervs get treated the same
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:22 AM
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Nah, thats a double standard and social media killed that bm lie, with people bashing BM WW with no proof of said bm saying anything about BW. No matter how you slice it women are allowed to critique mens standards, not the other way around. Hence you making excuses for AM getting called incels for what BW do, plenty of AW bash AM, have white fever, its open secret at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 12:14 AM
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They only see it as bad for women, if colorism affected men only, it would lumped in with the rest of incel complaints. Its like how bw can make thinkpieces about BM and WW couples and its ok, but AM who bring up WM and AW get called incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 12:00 AM
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No matter how nice they frame it those undesirable men are going to be seen as pervs for wanting to be desired lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:17 PM
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And my point is there is no proper framing thats gonna make people feel sorry for undesirable men. Outside advice of the things they can control, theres nothing people can do to make truly undesirable men likeable, hence again the deflection to friendship and other types of platonic relationships that dont satisfy those desires lol. The best thing they can do is either move on if possible or vent about it online lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:56 PM
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Frame it however you want, bluntly or beating around the bush undesirable men complaining is going to turn women off regardless. Those who can become more desirable should and are doing that, that still leaves those that wont be able to meet womens standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:50 PM
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No you stating you respect anecdotes, that can be brushed off as self inflicted by blue pillers such as yourself, over stats that show what people generally do is very crucial.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:46 PM
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So basically ignore patterns and go in it blind? Not the biggest tate fan, but your solution is why tates/red pill spaces are popular today.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 10:32 PM
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Well thats not going to work your suggesting its a wording/tone issue, when its not, people are going to deflect regardless how it's worded the min they figure it out. Hence they're making the loneliness epidemic a "friendship" issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 05:15 AM
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Men gotta stop beating around the bush, and admit that pussy/genuine sexual desire is what the issue is about. Not friendships, friendships aren't hard to come by at all but wanting to have sex, being seen as sexually desirable and not pretending that desiring that is some evil thing that men only want cause of "socializing"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 01:05 AM
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Money literally does not equal sex that's a wildly inaccurate comparison that goes directly into my perception it must be all about ego for some people. Sex with other people comes with diseases, responsibilities, and sometimes children. Sex with other people will impact your whole social life and invite people to your home - and not in the positive way that money will always just increase opportunity. Uh money comes with alot of problems too, jealousy, robbery, murder, scammers, i can go on. Mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:52 AM
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Cause people, not just women use these crimes to reinforce the hatred they have for the groups involved. No different than right wing influencers use black crime to bash black people as a whole, leftist influencers using the brick lady to bash men, its about reinforcing their view, they dont care about crime like that or they would care if a man got hit with a brick or crime in general regardless who the perp and victim is. So when its revealed to be false, they ignore it, cause it forces them t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:35 AM
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No, free implies shes genuinely interested in me, paid for by me or someone else implies the opposite. I dont have a problem with paying for it, but if I had a choice, im going with genuine mutual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:54 PM
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How? You don't become good at driving a car by doing it once. You have to do it continuously to get good at it. It took me a long time to get good at driving, I only got my driver's license a year ago. Again your making it a black or white thing. Im saying while you look, and I mean actually look for a partner cause something tells me youre not proactive in this area either. Dabble in it once in a while, learn the mechanics of it, as your not going to get passionate everytime your with a woman p…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:53 PM
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But you'll have your foot in the door, and you wont be completely in the dark. As far as respect idgaf about other people's opinions that dont pay me, plus given your situation, theres not going to be alot respect either way. also your gonna be wasting money before you find someone whos passionate for you anyway. Its not an either or thing like people try to make it seem, it doesnt stop you from looking, there are women who dont care, in fact my female friends who was interested in me told me to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:36 PM
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The 6.5, im not only attracted to 10s. So a free 6 is better than paying for a 10
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:27 PM
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Imma be honest this mentality is hindering you. Your risk aversion is going to keep you stuck in your situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:26 PM
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Then no, anything serious is out of the question. Mutual attraction is the goal as Its not fair to the partner whos interested, to be with them cause no one else is interested. Now paying for it I would like mutual attraction, but if not the money is supposed to make up for it on my end.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:18 PM
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Cause it says something when you guys try to moralize these dudes failures yet the so called mid guy is just as bad or worse, yet it doesnt hinder him. It implies that mid is step above them. P.s its easy to say the first line when you know you can get it. Its like saying Bad money is worse than no money to struggling people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 10:11 PM
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Eh it depends I rather be with a woman who is into me, as long im into her. Now if I couldn't get my bare minimum, then yeah I rather pay for it then lie to the woman im not attracted to what so ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:31 PM
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Just pay for it. You dont have to say anything other than it was a one night stand, which technically it is. I like how this topic exposes those who typically like to claim theres someone for everyone, but even here they can't lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:19 PM
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Its one of those things where it depends on rather or not an person can live their whole life without it, some can and some cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 03:28 PM
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Why, if I can get by with the bare minimum, why would I care to do that? Health? To extend years of loneliness/sexlessness? I dont see the benefit of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 04:42 AM
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Just dont be boring, people would rather be friends with serial killers or bullies, cause they bring excitement even if its at a cost of some innocent
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 11:58 PM
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You're not disproving my point by using a time period that women were forced to be with men out of survival and puritan monogamous culture, cause i said only a small amount of men get true instant desire out of women like men do from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 02:25 PM
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No, but i do see the flaws and how its a loophole for forced labor. I see the flaw in prisons being for profit and how that encourages quotas and ways to get them filled.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:58 AM
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Well I rather women have the freedom to choose regardless, cause I don't understand manipulating the law to get women to seek men out of survival is going to bring genuine desire to those men. Thats what incels claim to want otherwise paying for it wouldnt be seen poorly. I cant see how you can look at another human being and think they should have less rights than you cause they wont give you what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:48 AM
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Cause the men who can overlook the fact that they may be forever alone is probably already doing that. For the rest accepting that it may not be in the cards is a tough pill to swallow. At best i think online venting and or more dudes just become neets/basement dwellers. at worst we'll see more isis like religious groups recruit men like this with the promise of the next life being better or more homeless drug addicts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:10 AM
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You clearly didnt read what I said, cause I mentioned that women aren't attracted to majority of men like that. But for the men that are, theres no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 04:13 AM
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The reason women dont desire it the same, is be cause the access is a given, and has been since puberty, but they don't desire the majority of men like the reverse, hence the whole notion that average men have to "apply pressure", have game or generate a spark only a certain amount of men in her area can generate immediately. Being friends with a man women actually get wet for will show you how similar women view sex as a man, especially if your his roommate. Its kind of like a person born rich …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 11:26 AM
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Im good, I dont have issues. Just saying that message is gonna be a hard pill to swallow for men who didnt see thru dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 02:02 AM
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It doesnt when you have to go inside to see said incident which intent has yet to be proven. There hasn't have to be a recent equivalent to know a man couldnt get away with recording a passed out naked woman in her house.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 01:25 AM
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Inside the house doesnt equal exposing to everyone. Dont play stupid you know the responses wouldnt be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 01:23 AM
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Good luck pushing that, maybe if monasteries make a comeback it could work.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 12:53 AM
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So a man records a seemingly passed out semi naked woman in her home, would get the same response right? Cause I see we're they are coming from
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 12:23 AM
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Well I hope society figures something out, cause its getting harder to deny the obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 12:21 AM
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Alot the pills would go away if society was upfront about this from the get go and let the chips fall where they may(within reason ofc)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 11:58 PM
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Which according to dd, is wrong, and why both got terminated from their accounts. we haven't heard from the man's side, so yeah im waiting for more info
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 11:49 PM
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I guess ill be the lone person and wait for more info to come out, as this case has become way to ambiguous for me to fingerwag at anyone in this story
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 09:34 PM
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Another thread where we pretend that the majority of men are just peer pressured into wanting sex, no biological drive at all, and that women swearing off relationships means theyre completely celibate lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 03:52 PM
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No cause thats not my argument, which is generalizations are bad and that sitting thru your options to find one you like, which is normal for everyone, is better than having nothing. Just like you generalizing all men interested as only wanting sex, a man can generalize and all women interested only want his money.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 07:16 PM
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Again just generalizing proving my point. Either ways, its better to have a pile to sift thru to find one you like then nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:11 PM
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Eh, I agree to a certain extent, cause i find it kind of crazy that women get to claim to struggle by generalizing all of her options when it comes to matches. When I see a woman claim she has 500 dms or matches and all of them suck, its like would a man get away with claiming hes struggling just to turnaround and say 50 women approached him or gave him signals all sucked? No people would start digging asking questions about that dudes standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 03:19 PM
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This is just world theory cope, plenty of dudes who dont struggle have this view.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:05 AM
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I've tried to point this out to others who think friendship is going to make up for never having anyone. they just don't get it, they cant put themselves in that type of person's shoes at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:04 AM
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Exactly false hope after a certain period of time turns toxic inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:01 AM
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Its weird how you guys play this weird game where you try to hide the truth in the beginning just to admit how rigged the game is at the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:00 AM
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Or the barrier isnt as high for women, social flaws aren't that much of a concern if theyre attractive to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 11:58 PM
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No, this is where positivity turns toxic, it wouldnt be a disability if it were true for everyone. Pretending everyone has the same stats is why the pills remain
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 11:57 PM
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Doesnt change the fact that theyre able to get relationships. Labeling them all as abusive won't change that imbalance
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 11:56 PM
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Idk why this is being pushed back against, a woman that is attractive enough the flaws wont be a deterrent. social disabilities affect men way more than the opposite in the dating realm. Pretending everything is equal isnt the right way to go about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 11:52 PM
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Its possible ive seen it with friends and I have the rare times of women being sexually blunt with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 12:05 PM
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Its like what patrice oneal said, what it takes for a man to get a woman is what it takes a woman to keep a man. Women dont need a personality or charisma to get a man, as looks/sex gets them through the door, however they need it to keep the man they want around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 11:58 AM
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The only way I see this working is if chobits becomes reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 03:58 AM
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