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| 8 | The Fable of the Happy Pilot | Thinks_Like_A_Man | /r/MensRights | 16/09/12 03:09 PM |
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| 19 | What power shift?? Lies men tell XD Women get BETTER with ageIt’s about statistics. Because men die younger than women, the older they get, the ratio changes in their favor. I have heard there are like 20 single dating women for every single dating man over the age of 50. Men’s health tends to be shittier, and many stop when their dick doesn’t work any more. Anyway, you get the picture. Men confuse the higher demand with attractiveness. They never had that when younger so they think they finally came into their own. It’s kind of pathetic. It also makes ma… | /r/FemaleDatingStrategy | 19/07/21 07:05 PM |
| 26 | What power shift?? Lies men tell XD Women get BETTER with ageLike really surprised me that younger guys don’t give a shit about age. Young black guys are always super nice and friendly to me. I can’t figure that one out. | /r/FemaleDatingStrategy | 19/07/21 06:56 PM |
| 64 | What power shift?? Lies men tell XD Women get BETTER with ageRead older men dating profiles sometime. Most think because they were fit in their 20s, they can achieve that with two weeks in the gym. They're a real catch. My favorite is the 359-400 pound 65-year-old guy I know, unemployed for ten years, who can barely walk because of back, knee and leg problems, with severe sleep apnea, diabetes and cancer. He recently told me if he wasn’t married, he would be hitting on my 35 year old neighbor who is very successful and owns her own business and she runs m… | /r/FemaleDatingStrategy | 19/07/21 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Why isn't "fat acceptance" simply dismissed with "nobody owes you sex"?A friend of mine took it and gained 15 pounds in 2 weeks and did not change her diet. | /r/MensRights | 14/04/18 03:26 AM |
| 1 | Why isn't "fat acceptance" simply dismissed with "nobody owes you sex"?Lauded on reddit. | /r/MensRights | 13/04/18 08:50 PM |
| -1 | Why isn't "fat acceptance" simply dismissed with "nobody owes you sex"?You must really hate old folks. | /r/MensRights | 13/04/18 05:34 PM |
| 1 | Why isn't "fat acceptance" simply dismissed with "nobody owes you sex"?The idea that people are just lazy and don’t want to work at not being fat kind Of flies in the face of the multi-billion dollar weight loss industry. This is not a problem if individuals, but a problem of society — specifically the food industry, government subsides and our inadequate healthcare system. | /r/MensRights | 13/04/18 05:31 PM |
| 2 | Why isn't "fat acceptance" simply dismissed with "nobody owes you sex"?Neither is Prednisone. | /r/MensRights | 13/04/18 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Why isn't "fat acceptance" simply dismissed with "nobody owes you sex"?This, a million times this. | /r/MensRights | 13/04/18 05:25 PM |
| 8 | Why isn't "fat acceptance" simply dismissed with "nobody owes you sex"?I would love to read one of these “fat people cost more insurance” arguments applied to actually bitch about people crippled or paralyzed due to stupidity on their part, like drinking and driving, cliff diving, or extreme sports. Risky behavior is practically lauded. | /r/MensRights | 13/04/18 05:19 PM |
| 0 | Saw this on imgur. A man holding intactivist signs along a street. Wish I had the balls to do more than just complain on the internet.So a parent or doctor can decide what is "beneficial" except for circumcision? That seems to be the argument. What hat if a child really doesn't want braces and the parent does? At what point are the child's wishes honored or the decision postponed? | /r/MensRights | 30/09/15 01:28 PM |
| 0 | Saw this on imgur. A man holding intactivist signs along a street. Wish I had the balls to do more than just complain on the internet.Pulling teeth, braces, laser eye surgery, hair removal, teeth whitening, benign skin growth removals, to name a few. | /r/MensRights | 30/09/15 01:40 AM |
| 0 | Saw this on imgur. A man holding intactivist signs along a street. Wish I had the balls to do more than just complain on the internet.And where did I say anything like that? I asked about treating a child for acne scars with a chemical peel. My question has been why do opponents of this stop at circumcision? Why not all unnecessary medical procedures? And for that, I am downvoted? This does not further the cause. | /r/MensRights | 27/09/15 05:05 PM |
| -2 | Saw this on imgur. A man holding intactivist signs along a street. Wish I had the balls to do more than just complain on the internet.Welcome to the new reddit where opposing points of view aren't invited. Why participate when the new system allows you to be downvoted for having an opinion. | /r/MensRights | 27/09/15 01:30 PM |
| 0 | Saw this on imgur. A man holding intactivist signs along a street. Wish I had the balls to do more than just complain on the internet.Kids can't consent until 18 so we have parents do the consenting. If I put my child through a painful procedure that is really unnecessary but only cosmetic, how is that different? My question really is that to use that argument, why are you stopping at circumcision? Why not ALL medically unnecessary procedures? | /r/MensRights | 27/09/15 01:14 PM |
| -2 | Saw this on imgur. A man holding intactivist signs along a street. Wish I had the balls to do more than just complain on the internet.Scars are purely cosmetic, the procedure is painful. How is that different than circumcision? | /r/MensRights | 27/09/15 01:11 PM |
| -19 | Saw this on imgur. A man holding intactivist signs along a street. Wish I had the balls to do more than just complain on the internet.So parents can't get their kid a chemical peel for scars? Edit: You know, when you fucking down vote the shit out of people engaging you in a respectful discussion, you're shooting down a prime opportunity to have a meaningful dialogue about your cause. Why should I even care when there is no invitation for discussion? Why should I view you as someone who has something to say that I want to know more about? You clearly don't want to read my QUESTION, which may have no bearing on where I fall on … | /r/MensRights | 27/09/15 06:37 AM |
| 1 | Getting divorced turns men into slavesStop responding if you must, but I will point this out for other readers. Again, you take into account the father's income and yet ignore the girlfriend's. If you believe the mother's BF's income should be a consideration, then why not the GF's? It's one or the other. If only the father's income is a consideration, then only the mother's income should be as well. If she makes $0 because her boyfriend supports her, then her income is $0. If he makes $0 income because his girlfriend supports him, … | /r/MensRights | 25/01/14 06:18 PM |
| 1 | Getting divorced turns men into slavesWhat are you talking about? He's not paying more than his fair share, he's paying $420 a month. That is not more than half the child's expenses unless the kid is shackled in a closet and sucking on a root all day. That wouldn't even cover daycare in most major cities. Shit, my kid's tuition was more than that each month. Further, why are you basing it on the father's income, not the father's-plus-girlfriend's income? You want the mother's household income to include her boyfriend, right? So shou… | /r/MensRights | 23/01/14 01:05 AM |
| 1 | Getting divorced turns men into slavesYou seem to keep harping on the MOTHER's boyfriend's contribution while ignoring that the OP is the girlfriend of the father. By your logic he is not impoverished because his GF is contributing to his household? In other words, if you are going to be fair, then apply it equally regardless of gender. If a father has a GF, should her income be used to determine his ability to pay? | /r/MensRights | 18/01/14 02:31 PM |
| 1 | Getting divorced turns men into slavesYou really need to grasp what you are saying. Children deserve to be cared for and if the parent can't -- for whatever reason -- yes, the children should be taken away. Poverty, in an of itself, is not a reason, but when the child's basic needs aren't met, they should. A child can be kept alive with water, a little food and some shelter. Support isn't about what a child needs, but providing a standard of living for that child he or she would have had if the parents had remained married. That is … | /r/MensRights | 15/01/14 01:06 AM |
| 1 | Getting divorced turns men into slavesYou keep saying that if the "mother's boyfriend helps that should be accounted for" but make no mention of the father's girlfriend. Clearly, in this thread, the girlfriend is gainfully employed and helping the father -- why isn't that a consideration? You seem to miss the idea that support is not about paying the mother, it's about supporting the kids. There are basic needs a child has such as food, shelter, medical care, clothing, etc. If the family can't provide those things, it is called "neg… | /r/MensRights | 08/01/14 02:01 PM |
| 1 | Getting divorced turns men into slavesIf Dad's half of the kid's expenses are covered by something that has changed in the situation, it should be considered. So you believe that another man should be obligated to financially support someone else's offspring? What if they are living together, the boyfriend is rich but refusing to provide any money for the care of the children? Should he be forced to do so? Should the mother be penalized because some guy she is dating is rich? What if they only benefit she receives is getting to live… | /r/MensRights | 03/01/14 12:18 AM |
| 1 | Getting divorced turns men into slavesSo if Dad is banging some rich chick, that should be taken into account? | /r/MensRights | 29/12/13 08:53 PM |
| 1 | Getting divorced turns men into slavesSo if Dad has a large retirement or inheritance, should that be considered as well? | /r/MensRights | 21/12/13 12:38 AM |
| 1 | Getting divorced turns men into slavesReally? I find this odd. Did you get a lawyer and fight for custody? In my state, the courts will award 50/50 custody, which requires that both parents live within the school district of the children. From what I gather, many men are reluctant to be tied down to a specific geographic area until the kids graduate high school. In fact, studies show that when men fight for custody, they often win. | /r/MensRights | 20/12/13 01:59 AM |
| 1 | Getting divorced turns men into slavesThis doesn't really make sense to me, perhaps you could explain it differently? I don't get what you are trying to say. | /r/MensRights | 20/12/13 01:54 AM |
| 1 | Getting divorced turns men into slavesYou make an assumption that this BF is "obligated" to provide care for the children. He is not, therefore, his contribution to this woman should not be a factor. She cannot rely on that money month after month, nor is there any guarantee that he is contributing to the child care at all -- up to and including the house, for which she may be paying him. Further, the BF should not be forced to disclose his financial situation to a court simply because he is banging this woman. These are not his kid… | /r/MensRights | 20/12/13 01:53 AM |
| 1 | Getting divorced turns men into slavesNot really, but you can think that. Most states will give 50/50 custody if a man fights for it. Most men don't or won't. | /r/MensRights | 19/12/13 03:45 AM |
| 1 | Getting divorced turns men into slavesSorry, I responded to the wrong comment. Many apologies, man. | /r/MensRights | 19/12/13 03:40 AM |
| 0 | Getting divorced turns men into slavesYeah, you didn't. So the mother just eats that expense every month? | /r/MensRights | 19/12/13 02:55 AM |
| 4 | Getting divorced turns men into slavesHonestly, if you think it costs $400 to house, feed and clothe a child, you're insane. You know, many parents wouldn't live they way they do if they didn't have kids. I certainly wouldn't, I would be in a studio condo, but I can't. You think that only $200 went to you, but you are forgetting all the other bills. Did you get rides to places? Who paid for the car, the gas? Did you get any clothes? Do you realize that schools supplies and clothing for most kids is about $400? One teenager will usua… | /r/MensRights | 19/12/13 02:54 AM |
| 1 | Getting divorced turns men into slavesHow sad for your kids. | /r/MensRights | 19/12/13 02:36 AM |
| 2 | Getting divorced turns men into slavesThe reality is that most fathers even when given 50% visitation do not take their child and the mother often ends up with doing the heavy lifting when it comes to time spent parenting. | /r/MensRights | 19/12/13 02:25 AM |
| 2 | Getting divorced turns men into slavesYou would think the father would be grateful that another man is raising his children so much better than he would be doing if he was still married to mother. | /r/MensRights | 19/12/13 02:22 AM |
| 0 | Getting divorced turns men into slavesJesus, so the kids' room just magically appears in the house for free? The mother could be living in a studio apartment, but needs a three bedroom because one child is a boy and the other is a girl. Should she pay for the additional rent? | /r/MensRights | 19/12/13 02:20 AM |
| -4 | Getting divorced turns men into slavesDid you live indoors and have food? How about electricity? Please go on craigslist where ever you were raised and find a furnished room for rent in a house of comparable value with utilities for $200 a month. And if you do manage to find one, then tell me how much it costs to buy groceries for you each month, plus gas, clothing, medical care. . . | /r/MensRights | 19/12/13 02:14 AM |
| 0 | Getting divorced turns men into slavesBoyfriend's income is not the mother's income. In fact, you don't know if she gets any of his money and even if she does, it's a gift from him to her. | /r/MensRights | 19/12/13 02:13 AM |
| 1 | Getting divorced turns men into slavesWould you be willing to give up all your parental rights and not have to pay child support. That means -- no visitation, your children no longer have your name, you are no longer legally considered a father? | /r/MensRights | 19/12/13 02:11 AM |
| 11 | Getting divorced turns men into slavesCHOOSING to care for someone else's child is not the same as a "legal responsibility" to care for a child. It does not and should not matter how much money her boyfriend makes because he is not legally obligated to provide for the child. This is like saying because Grandpa died and left the child a boatload of money, the father shouldn't have to support the kids. Any money the boyfriend -- like Grandpa -- gives the mother or children is a "gift." | /r/MensRights | 19/12/13 02:06 AM |
| 1 | Fellow MRA's I am at the end of my rope. I'm done. Fucking DONE.I never assumed he was lazy, nor did I write anything which stated he wasn't manly. What I do believe is that many men have accepted that the deck is so stacked against them that it is not worth it to try. They believe they have to have $10,000 and an attorney, instead of a few hours and an Internet connection. Perhaps that misguided belief has something to do with the fact that when they do run into a problem, the knee-jerk response seems to be "flee the country" instead of actually assisting t… | /r/MensRights | 30/07/12 05:13 PM |
| 0 | Fellow MRA's I am at the end of my rope. I'm done. Fucking DONE.He hasn't fought to get visitation rights. I see no indication he has petitioned the courts for anything. Since it is pertinent to his situation, I am assuming he's done little to try. And why resort to personal attacks on me and my motivations for responding? A quick review of my comment history will reveal I spend time in /r/suicidewatch. This guy feels powerless. Telling him to leave the country isn't going to help. Telling him how to fight this will. Further, I wasn't speaking to the custody… | /r/MensRights | 30/07/12 02:58 PM |
| 1 | Fellow MRA's I am at the end of my rope. I'm done. Fucking DONE.I spoke with an attorney about this. The reason is that family law practice is usually reserved for new attorneys and is the first area of specializing that they drop. I asked why and it has to do with people being so damn emotional about it. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/12 05:23 PM |
| 1 | Fellow MRA's I am at the end of my rope. I'm done. Fucking DONE.Yeah I guess the vast majority of the posters don't recommend leaving the country and abandoning their children to the care of some evil bitch. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/12 03:55 PM |
| 2 | Fellow MRA's I am at the end of my rope. I'm done. Fucking DONE.I think hearing all these stories have led men to believe that fighting isn't worth it. Most men don't even know the laws. It's sad. If MR's wants to make a difference, it will start there -- helping men reach their goals with what is in place now. A lot of men demanding to see their kids would change some long held beliefs that guys don't care. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/12 02:14 PM |
| 0 | Fellow MRA's I am at the end of my rope. I'm done. Fucking DONE.Agreed. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/12 04:51 AM |
| 2 | Fellow MRA's I am at the end of my rope. I'm done. Fucking DONE.File without a lawyer. The shit isn't hard. Just follow the rules. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/12 02:35 AM |
| -6 | Fellow MRA's I am at the end of my rope. I'm done. Fucking DONE.I have my own legal battles. Not that interested. | /r/MensRights | 29/07/12 02:31 AM |
| 10 | Fellow MRA's I am at the end of my rope. I'm done. Fucking DONE.Men need to take this guy by the hand and help him navigate through the courts without a lawyer. Instead, they want to say, "Wimmen are mean." It does nothing to help their cause. | /r/MensRights | 28/07/12 11:19 PM |
| 4 | Fellow MRA's I am at the end of my rope. I'm done. Fucking DONE.You don't need a lawyer. You can file paperwork with the courts. All of the forms can be downloaded. I know, I am doing it in another state. I was told to get an attorney, which I cannot afford. | /r/MensRights | 28/07/12 11:13 PM |
| 49 | Fellow MRA's I am at the end of my rope. I'm done. Fucking DONE.According to the Texas AG's office: "The custodial parent has a duty to obey the court order for visitation, even if the noncustodial parent cannot or will not pay child support. The court can enforce its orders against either parent." So the OP probably hasn't even fought it. He needs to educate himself on the laws of his state and start using the system to his advantage. I didn't research it, but most states only allow 50% of your paycheck to be taken away, and he can file for a modification i… | /r/MensRights | 28/07/12 09:07 PM |
| 1 | A guy with pictures of teenage girls and chicks in bikini on the wall of his desk, would be fired.True story. . . we had an all female office of four women with one male, very young coworker. He told us he liked this model so we cut out a bunch of magazine pics of her with balloons over her head that said, "Oh, do you like my outfit" and, "Are you looking at me?" Stuff like that, not even sexual. It was just something annoying we did to pick on the younger guy. The company was sold and we weren't told until the new owners showed up. They saw the photos on the guy's cubicle and threatened to … | /r/MensRights | 14/07/12 12:51 AM |
| 1 | Child support system to get huge overhaul. The income of both parents will be factored into child support calculations for the first time under the Child Support Amendment Bill. Debt from unpaid child support sat at $2 billion and 60% of debt was from overdue penalty payments.Private skool tuition. | /r/MensRights | 08/05/12 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Child support system to get huge overhaul. The income of both parents will be factored into child support calculations for the first time under the Child Support Amendment Bill. Debt from unpaid child support sat at $2 billion and 60% of debt was from overdue penalty payments.A LOT less than that, plus we have a lot of medical expenses and private tuition. | /r/MensRights | 08/05/12 01:10 AM |
| 5 | Child support system to get huge overhaul. The income of both parents will be factored into child support calculations for the first time under the Child Support Amendment Bill. Debt from unpaid child support sat at $2 billion and 60% of debt was from overdue penalty payments.Probably the easiest way to deal with this is to have the custodial parent file receipts for the care of the children, including food, gas, etc. Once I did that for my ex, the arguments stopped dead. He realized he wasn't paying even near half. | /r/MensRights | 07/05/12 08:25 PM |
| 6 | "It's called wooing" or "it's called I deserve free food because I have breasts"? (xpost from /r/okcupid)Sadly, if she is uber hot, plenty of men will put up with her shit, and they won't be the needy and desperate. | /r/MensRights | 29/04/12 12:21 PM |
| 3 | My wife bought me an iphone the other day. This is after I refused to buy one for myself. Guess which app SHE downloaded on MY phone first?In my case, as an example, I did not want the divorce but I filed the paperwork because I had the time to manage the process. Filing is not the same as deciding to divorce and doesn't indicate who is driving the decision. It is usually the end result of a decision. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 07:51 PM |
| 0 | My wife bought me an iphone the other day. This is after I refused to buy one for myself. Guess which app SHE downloaded on MY phone first?This is what my friend said as well. While women do contribute to the shitty marriage, the men drive it off the cliff. Surprised the MR brigade hasn't downvoted you yet. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/12 05:16 PM |
| 2 | My wife bought me an iphone the other day. This is after I refused to buy one for myself. Guess which app SHE downloaded on MY phone first?Filing the paperwork is no indication of anything. If that was the case, then the majority of divorces would be contested. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/12 05:14 PM |
| 2 | My wife bought me an iphone the other day. This is after I refused to buy one for myself. Guess which app SHE downloaded on MY phone first?Once you get a divorce, there is no more working on issues. That's why second marriages fail at an even higher percentage than first marriages. Your examples are quite extreme. I am sure the vast majority of divorces are the result of immaturity on both sides. Women are usually more willing to work on it. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/12 03:51 PM |
| 0 | My wife bought me an iphone the other day. This is after I refused to buy one for myself. Guess which app SHE downloaded on MY phone first?Does that mean which ever partner filled out the paperwork for the marriage license was the only one who wanted to get married? It's a statistic which reveals nothing. My ex wanted the divorce and I filled out the paperwork. Who filed means nothing. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/12 03:45 PM |
| 1 | My wife bought me an iphone the other day. This is after I refused to buy one for myself. Guess which app SHE downloaded on MY phone first?Why don't you just sit down and have a conversation with her, find out why she distrusts you and address those issues while requesting she addresses her insecurities? If you feel condemned to remain in this marriage, why not improve it? | /r/MensRights | 04/04/12 03:40 PM |
| 2 | My wife bought me an iphone the other day. This is after I refused to buy one for myself. Guess which app SHE downloaded on MY phone first?My friend, male and trapped in his own miserable marriage, is a divorce lawyer, family's court mediator and judge with experience of about thirty years. He said to me that in all divorces he's seen, 85% of the time it is usually the man's fault and those times where the woman cheated, only a fraction of the cases the man didn't. While women may be distrustful, bitchy or whatever they are usually more committed to keeping the marriage than the man. And before you cite filing statistics, that does… | /r/MensRights | 04/04/12 03:32 PM |
| 1 | I was falsely accused of rape and didn't go to jail!Dude, he said he knew her for months and that she threatens suicide for attention. | /r/MensRights | 22/03/12 04:04 AM |
| 1 | I was falsely accused of rape and didn't go to jail!She threatened suicide. | /r/MensRights | 22/03/12 03:12 AM |
| 1 | I was falsely accused of rape and didn't go to jail!It seems like you have more than enough to deal with and probably don't need an argument from a stranger on the Internet. I thought I would try to gracefully end it. | /r/MensRights | 21/03/12 06:19 PM |
| 1 | I was falsely accused of rape and didn't go to jail!If she's very seriously mentally ill, it is likely her allegations of rape would be excused because she is not competent. Casually fucking someone who is unstable is never a good idea and is not therapeutic by any means. | /r/MensRights | 21/03/12 06:07 PM |
| 1 | I was falsely accused of rape and didn't go to jail!I wasn't arguing that it was rape. I wasn't condoning the girl's actions. Please show me where I said this. What I said is that when dealing with someone who is obviously disordered, you shouldn't have casual sex with them. Someone who threatens suicide "for attention" (if that's even true) should probably be locked up until some effective treatment can be found. She's clearly in danger, yet the OP thinks the way to deal with this is to throw a heap of legal problems her way. My gut tells me she… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/12 04:52 PM |
| 1 | I was falsely accused of rape and didn't go to jail!"She threatens to kill herself to get attention." He's known her for months. Clearly he was aware of her instability and that she had suicidal tendencies. What she did is clearly wrong, but he could have avoided this by using better judgment when choosing a sex partner. Also, he's only adding to her problems. | /r/MensRights | 21/03/12 02:40 PM |
| 0 | I was falsely accused of rape and didn't go to jail!Before | /r/MensRights | 21/03/12 04:30 AM |
| 1 | I was falsely accused of rape and didn't go to jail!You want to lock up all the people who cannot fully grasp the consequences of their actions OR make them wards of the state, but you don't want to be locked up when you were having delusional thoughts? You contradicted yourself. The truth is that when you don't know how disordered someone's thinking is, you shouldn't have casual sex with them. You should probably wait until you know them better, or understand the depth of their problems. It's just sort of the decent thing to do. Many people cann… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/12 01:47 AM |
| -1 | I was falsely accused of rape and didn't go to jail!Apparently she DID since the OP knew about it. | /r/MensRights | 21/03/12 01:32 AM |
| 1 | I was falsely accused of rape and didn't go to jail!He said in the comments he knew she was suicidal. He knew she was under the care of a therapist. Even if you don't morally object to casual sex with someone mentally disordered, it's a bad idea for the very reason the op is posting here. In other words she could be seriously mentally ill and truly believe the voices on her head that she was raped. And that is my point. People who cannot grasp the consequences of their choices cannot give consent and should not be used for casual sex. This should… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/12 12:38 AM |
| -1 | I was falsely accused of rape and didn't go to jail!No, mentally disordered people are not really in a good place and should not be taken advantage of. | /r/MensRights | 21/03/12 12:24 AM |
| -6 | I was falsely accused of rape and didn't go to jail!You missed the point. He FUCKED that crazy chick and he now had a new crazy chick lined up. He's so fucking awesome. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/12 07:04 PM |
| -7 | I was falsely accused of rape and didn't go to jail!Has sex with a girl he knows is clearly unstable. Girl obviously believed it was more than casual. He then flaunts seeing another female and is shocked and amazed that unstable girl acts like she is unstable. He then runs to reddit to brag about his sexual conquest and stupidly posts all kinds of information about what will likely be an ongoing criminal investigation. Why don't more adult men counsel younger men to behave more responsibly? Instead of "don't stick your dick in crazy" how about po… | /r/MensRights | 20/03/12 07:02 PM |
| 2 | Mother uses child support money only to buy 500$ shoes for herself [Facebook]They can still work stringing beads or reading a book for the blind. Anything. It doesn't even have to be productive. | /r/MensRights | 16/03/12 07:02 PM |
| 2 | Mother uses child support money only to buy 500$ shoes for herself [Facebook]I think someone who would abuse abortion services would abuse welfare. In other words, if they would abuse abortion instead of using contraception, they are likely the ones who would have the kid to get state aid. I would rather pay $300 for a procedure four or five times that included long term birth control (say depo) than 18 years of welfare. It's still going to be cheaper. Unwanted children are very likely to grow up to be criminals at worst, and welfare recipients at best. In one generation… | /r/MensRights | 16/03/12 05:56 PM |
| 2 | Mother uses child support money only to buy 500$ shoes for herself [Facebook]This is why I think abortions and birth control should be state funded and entirely free to the end user - because it is cheaper on the long run. | /r/MensRights | 16/03/12 05:02 PM |
| 7 | Mother uses child support money only to buy 500$ shoes for herself [Facebook]It would stop a lot of battles. My ex was convinced by his girlfriend that it only costs $800 a month, total, for one child. Even though we had discussions that tuition and medical was $800 a month, she persisted. I produced receipts, he ponies up the rest -- to the tune of an additional $1500 in one month alone. The sad thing is that the bitch won't shut up about it. | /r/MensRights | 16/03/12 04:06 PM |
| 11 | Mother uses child support money only to buy 500$ shoes for herself [Facebook]While you see this in your job, it doesn't represent every single parent out there. I provide my ex with receipts for expenditures and my half is always greater (never mind the time commitment.) I think a good starting point would be an periodic review of cs, with the parents showing receipts for their expenses and evaluating it based on that. No one's financial situation remains constant. I am pretty much financially devastated right now because of kid's medical bills. | /r/MensRights | 16/03/12 03:37 PM |
| 1 | How was a mentally ill mother given unsupervised access to her son? She killed him to ensure his father did not win custody. I really wish courts would recognise that fathers can actually be the better parent.They also tend to favor parents over grandparents, and since grandma had custody, that leads me to believe Dad was no prince, either. While I agree the court is partially to blame in this, I don't see this case as a particularly strong example. Since the story doesn't tell us more, I have a hard time believing the father was a better choice since he too has a drug problem. | /r/MensRights | 03/03/12 02:30 PM |
| 1 | How was a mentally ill mother given unsupervised access to her son? She killed him to ensure his father did not win custody. I really wish courts would recognise that fathers can actually be the better parent.I don't believe she was medicated. My point is that she is clearly fucked up, and likely so is her ex if he did not intervene sooner. It would have been easier to have her committed given her contact with law enforcement, divorce her and give her no unsupervised visitation. Clearly the court is primarily to blame. We also don't know the father's history -- he could be in jail on drug charges. This is probably more of an indictment of mental health treatment rather then MR. | /r/MensRights | 02/03/12 04:05 PM |
| 0 | How was a mentally ill mother given unsupervised access to her son? She killed him to ensure his father did not win custody. I really wish courts would recognise that fathers can actually be the better parent.Let's not ignore that the father's own drug problems probably led him to believe that marrying and then reproducing with a schizo was a good idea. They had been together two years before the kid came along, ample time to notice a mental health issue. He should of had her committed while married, then divorced her. Yeah, divorce to an unmedicated psychotic when you are unstable yourself is not going to go bad. | /r/MensRights | 02/03/12 02:43 PM |
| 1 | Why do women initiate divorce? "Because I will win"Perhaps the real problem is your belief that you can psychically read others emotions and then you irrationally act on them. I wonder if your behavior would change if you discovered I was a bot, of if you would continue to desperately cling to your delusions? | /r/MensRights | 28/01/12 03:24 PM |
| 1 | Why do women initiate divorce? "Because I will win"What makes you think anyone cares about your good opinion? | /r/MensRights | 28/01/12 03:38 AM |
| 1 | Why do women initiate divorce? "Because I will win"It's clear you have an adversarial relationship with all women and view anyone who points out your obvious flaws as an enemy. That is because you are weak and ineffectual. The only way you can raise yourself up is to stand on the back of those who are superior to you. And that would include most women. You're.not really helping the cause. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/12 06:52 PM |
| 1 | Why do women initiate divorce? "Because I will win"I doubt there is a woman anywhere in the world waiting for you. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/12 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Why do women initiate divorce? "Because I will win"It doesn't matter. You're trying to draw attention away from what an enormous moron you are. I would rather misplace a comma than be so stupid that I draw erroneous conclusions from an abstract, when the contents of the actual piece contradict those conclusions. Lol :) Try again. This is rather pathetic. Mote. Beam. Eye. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/12 04:35 PM |
| 1 | Why do women initiate divorce? "Because I will win"I think that perhaps the time for marriage has come and gone. No one seems to like it and whether anyone really benefits is questionable. What we really need is some sort of legal contract for having and raising children, a contract that expires when the children graduate high school. I think everyone gets the short end of the stick. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/12 05:07 AM |
| 1 | Why do women initiate divorce? "Because I will win"You can't even identify the problems in your post. How truly sad. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/12 05:04 AM |
| 2 | Why do women initiate divorce? "Because I will win"Or misleading at best. | /r/MensRights | 26/01/12 11:10 PM |
| 0 | Why do women initiate divorce? "Because I will win"I find your screen name, combined with the stupidity you post, to be highly offensive to the male sex. Coming from someone who cannot even form a proper sentence, I'm not surprised. | /r/MensRights | 26/01/12 11:09 PM |
| 3 | Why do women initiate divorce? "Because I will win"The findings suggest something altogether different, which was ignored by the author. Abstract: Because of the financial and social hardship faced after divorce, most people assume that generally husbands have instigated divorce since the introduction of no-fault divorce. Yet women file for divorce and are often the instigators of separation, despite a deep attachment to their children and the evidence that many divorces harm children. Furthermore, divorced women in large numbers reveal that the… | /r/MensRights | 26/01/12 05:06 PM |
| 1 | Is 'women and children' first a real rule?True on all accounts. | /r/MensRights | 18/01/12 03:43 AM |
| 1 | Is 'women and children' first a real rule?It was in response to how this policy got started, not justification for doing it today. It wasn't irrelevant to the discussion because I prefaced it with: the attitude started because a greater investment by women is required in creating the next generation. This was in hopes that people would understand that it is merely some remnant of our days struggling to survive and NOT a matter of chivalry. I am sure if I posted "let the bitches die", I'd probably have more upvotes. Besides, I've been he… | /r/MensRights | 17/01/12 05:35 PM |
| -1 | Is 'women and children' first a real rule?Ahh, it seems to be the nature of Men's Rights. I usually avoid posting in here because of the downvote brigade that targets anyone who posts anything other than "men good, hos bad" type drivel. | /r/MensRights | 17/01/12 05:30 PM |
| 1 | Is 'women and children' first a real rule?I really don't understand how MRAs cannot seem to grasp that I am merely pointing out how this policy started, NOT ADVOCATING IT. Take it up with history, not me. Fucking downvotes for explaining it to you. | /r/MensRights | 17/01/12 05:53 AM |
| 5 | Is 'women and children' first a real rule?I wasn't talking about modern people, but how this "policy" came about and the reasons behind it. Even a large group of women of breeding age with children are more valuable than men because men who can father children are far more plentiful than women who can successfully bear children. In one year, a man can father literally hundreds of children, but a woman can have only one pregnancy, regardless of the number of available men. Maternal death was as high was 40% in the past so even if you sav… | /r/MensRights | 17/01/12 05:20 AM |
| 1 | Is 'women and children' first a real rule?I said two men will out provide five women who are breastfeeding children. Breastfeeding can take up a good portion of your day (ask me how I know this) because not only do you have a child attached to you for 20 minutes every two hours, but the mother must also consume more calories and water. It's a giant pain in the ass and a whole lot of work is not going to get done. | /r/MensRights | 17/01/12 04:37 AM |
| -2 | Is 'women and children' first a real rule?I wasn't comparing the two. I was explaining HOW this policy came about and why it was viewed as important. Over a century ago, it made sense. And while we may be tempted to view overpopulation as a problem that should be addressed (and I would agree), we should not forget that a single disaster could endanger our species. | /r/MensRights | 17/01/12 03:36 AM |
| -1 | Is 'women and children' first a real rule?And that is like saying that spending billions to watch for near earth asteroids is a waste of money while so many children die of starvation. | /r/MensRights | 17/01/12 02:52 AM |
| -3 | Is 'women and children' first a real rule?The Toba supereruption (Youngest Toba Tuff or simply YTT[1]) was a supervolcanic eruption that occurred some time between 69,000 and 77,000 years ago at Lake Toba (Sumatra, Indonesia). It is recognized as one of the Earth's largest known eruptions. The related catastrophe theory holds that this event plunged the planet into a 6-to-10-year volcanic winter and possibly an additional 1,000-year cooling episode. This change in temperature resulted in the world's human population being reduced to 10,… | /r/MensRights | 17/01/12 02:51 AM |
| -1 | Is 'women and children' first a real rule?Probably. | /r/MensRights | 17/01/12 02:48 AM |
| 0 | Is 'women and children' first a real rule?Your logic doesn't follow. I am not advocating we follow this policy, merely explaining why this was started in the first place. | /r/MensRights | 17/01/12 01:03 AM |
| -2 | Is 'women and children' first a real rule?And given some sort of mass catastrophe like that, how is having more women going to help? There are concerns about overpopulating the planet; why in the world should we keep giving in to "evolutionary responses" when they are no longer needed? You might try reading what I posted. If there is a catastrophe and our species is wiped out, we would need a certain number of breeding females to repopulate the planet. Just because there is overpopulation now, that does not assure our survival as a spec… | /r/MensRights | 17/01/12 01:02 AM |
| 2 | Is 'women and children' first a real rule?I wasn't justifying it, but was explaining how it came about. | /r/MensRights | 17/01/12 12:11 AM |
| -7 | Is 'women and children' first a real rule?The only time we could "safely" move past would be when we have colonized other solar systems. Right now, the bulk of humanity is trapped on this planet and could be wiped out in a moment. | /r/MensRights | 16/01/12 11:22 PM |
| 50 | Is 'women and children' first a real rule?Actually, the attitude started because a greater investment by women is required in creating the next generation. One man can sire hundreds of children a month, women can conceive only one child in a year (except in the cases of twins, etc.) Additionally, the survival of that child is dependent more on the female than male in the first two years (breastfeeding, etc.) As a result, the optimal situation is to have a woman devoted to raising one child every five years. The female's personal and bio… | /r/MensRights | 16/01/12 08:55 PM |
| 12 | Man brutally tortured by his wife and her boyfriend in Toronto apartmentThis really needs a NSFL tag. | /r/MensRights | 13/01/12 08:39 PM |
| 1 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.Yes, exactly, petulance and irrationality on your part. Good boy. | /r/MensRights | 12/12/11 07:54 PM |
| 1 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.Now you're learning. So the question is, why DID I withdraw my support? | /r/MensRights | 12/12/11 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.No, try again. It's this bitter, angry, asshole approach most of MR possesses. Your attitude exemplifies the movement which is why so many people outside of it have no sympathy for you. You can attempt to make it about the Internet or me in general, or you can learn from that and stop alienating people who are potentially your allies. Really, I don't give a shit any more. I mean, I used to care that men where treated so unfairly, but after dealing with so many assholes like you, I am beginning t… | /r/MensRights | 12/12/11 06:50 AM |
| 1 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.I don't spend it, my children do. I guess you'll have to take your objection up with them. By the way, they used some of it to buy his new girlfriend Christmas gifts. I didn't want a divorce, but I'll be damned if I'm going to keep some man in a relationship where he's not happy. A marriage is two people and if one is not there emotionally, then it's over. | /r/MensRights | 12/12/11 06:40 AM |
| 1 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.If you didn't want to divorce, why did you file paper work that would lead to a divorce? Because if I did the paperwork, then he didn't have to take off work to go to court which was a much longer drive for him than me. It was more convenient for me to file than for him. You just really seem to have a difficult time grasping that your experience with divorce is not typical for everyone else. You also seem to have problems realizing that not all divorces are adversarial and not everyone hates the… | /r/MensRights | 12/12/11 01:32 AM |
| 1 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.You know what is really stupid about your approach? I am actually one of the few women who are not only sympathetic to men's plights in this regard, but actually think about it. But when you approach this in this bitter and angry manner, it makes no one really give a shit. Your attitude and behavior is such a put off that I find myself not really caring that you got fucked over by the courts. Seriously. | /r/MensRights | 12/12/11 01:06 AM |
| 1 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.I didn't want a divorce and I filed the papers as did two of my friends. I'm not sure why you are confusing visitation and physical custody. It's a legal definition and has little bearing on the day-to-day reality of parenting. | /r/MensRights | 11/12/11 02:33 AM |
| 1 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.It sounds like you really don't give a shit about your kids and don't care what happens to them. I wonder if your father did this to you? Oddly, it is this argument which makes me wonder why so many MRs are screaming they don't have more say in the process. If you don't want to take responsibility for your actions, and the resulting consequences, why should the courts, society and women give a shit how you feel about it? Why should you have any say in it at all? Seriously, financial consideratio… | /r/MensRights | 11/12/11 02:31 AM |
| 1 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.Yes, as a matter of fact, I do. The difference between "physical custody" and "visitation" comes down to who provides the primary residence for the child. You can have one parent with physical custody and the other parent having visitation equal to one-half of the time. The problem with joint custody is that the child's time must be split equally between both homes, and usually both parents must remain in the school district. One parent can have physical custody and both parents have joint legal… | /r/MensRights | 11/12/11 02:12 AM |
| 1 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.No, the state takes money that the man OWES. Before the man had sex, he understood that if the union resulted in pregnancy and that pregnancy was brought to term, he would have to pay. He assumed the risk by not taking adequate measures to prevent a pregnancy. On the flip side, are you advocating that men should be able to lie about having a vasectomy, impregnate a woman, and then not be financially liable? | /r/MensRights | 10/12/11 06:50 AM |
| 1 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.Again, child support is not a financial incentive as statistically, women are worse off financially. Additionally, more women initiate divorce because they are more likely to do the paperwork. Visitation is not tied to child support, so your "parental alienation" argument fails as well. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/11 06:47 AM |
| 1 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.Several months at one point. My ex did ask me if I reported him, I said that I did not and he told me that likely nothing would happen. But, I'm not sure if they look at missed payments, annual payments, payments over the course of the decree, etc. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/11 06:45 AM |
| 1 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.A woman's quality of life drops 45% after a divorce. Since the evolutionary drive is for her to have children, and someone to help rear those children, it doesn't make sense for her to divorce. Even if she finds a new mate, the survival of her offspring is greatly threatened as compared to staying with the mate who sired them. Additionally, assume the man makes $100,000 a year, and she makes $50,000 a year. Even if she receives $25,000 in child support (unlikely unless there are multiple childre… | /r/MensRights | 10/12/11 03:23 AM |
| 1 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.Sorry, I didn't make that clear. It actually goes through a clearinghouse which I assume is under contract with the state. He does not pay me directly. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/11 03:14 AM |
| 1 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.Because the burglar took the items by force. The man was not forced to have sex. That is the difference. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/11 03:14 AM |
| 1 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.Not really. In your example, the woman would have to rape him. | /r/MensRights | 09/12/11 06:20 PM |
| 1 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.A financial incentive has to be a positive move. I don't know of a financial incentive that makes you lose money. | /r/MensRights | 09/12/11 06:19 PM |
| 1 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.He pays child support and the money flows through to a debit card, which his offspring uses -- not me. | /r/MensRights | 09/12/11 06:18 PM |
| 0 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.Wow, bitter much? | /r/MensRights | 09/12/11 06:18 PM |
| 1 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.So you're an expert on the child support laws of every state? Perhaps you can tell me why they DIDN'T pursue my ex when he stopped paying? You know, since you're the expert. I'll wait. Nice karma you got going there. | /r/MensRights | 09/12/11 05:10 AM |
| 3 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.I didn't use child support money to buy the house. The extra contribution allowed me to qualify for a better mortgage interest rate. | /r/MensRights | 09/12/11 05:09 AM |
| 1 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.I am sorry. What a shitty situation. I truly believe the big difference was that we did not have attorneys to handle our divorce. I told my ex I would rather give him the money I would spend on an attorney and just avoid the emotional turmoil. I really didn't want to drag anyone (especially a child) through that. Neither of us wanted it to get ugly and he's a really good guy. So we worked out our settlement at the kitchen table and really neither of us wanted the assets. It took three months, to… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/11 02:15 AM |
| 6 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.Yeah, it just couldn't be the possibility that not all women are evil bitches, right? It couldn't be that my ex and I still love each other, but choose not to be married, could it? Under those circumstances, why WOULD I want to keep him from his offspring? The changes men want to the divorce and child support issue will come much faster with the help of women. But when men alienate women who actually want to achieve that goal, or women who don't have an adversarial relationship with their ex's, … | /r/MensRights | 09/12/11 02:05 AM |
| 1 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.I didn't use child support to buy a house. Don't be silly. | /r/MensRights | 09/12/11 01:59 AM |
| 0 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.C'mon, your example is a bad one. I'm willing to discuss it with you, but come up with someone more applicable. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/11 11:29 PM |
| -5 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.Child support may be welfare by your definition, but it is not the generally accepted one. And yes, it does address your point. You stated there were financial incentives for women to divorce. Given that women are more likely to be financially worse off, this would make your statement wrong. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/11 11:25 PM |
| -2 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.Actually, statistics show that women are financially worse off after a divorce than staying married. And no, I don't want kids to receive welfare. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/11 11:17 PM |
| 1 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.You'll notice the caps and bold were directed at you. That's because you're aching for a fight. I suspect you have some sort of frontal lobe issue and need the jolt to get your brain functioning which would account for your inability to grasp what was written in several posts. Along with the passive-aggressiveness, this would seem to suggest ADD or ADHD. I am betting the inattentive sub type. IANAD, so that's not an expert opinion, but you might consider looking at the symptoms and see if it is … | /r/MensRights | 08/12/11 11:15 PM |
| -1 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.A thief cannot dictate the financial arrangement between you and your mortgage company. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/11 11:12 PM |
| 3 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.You sure read a lot of stuff into the written word. That tone you speak of is coming from your own mind and speaks to your own insecurities. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/11 11:02 PM |
| -3 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.The retort "grow up" would be better suited toward someone who resorts to insults instead of discussing the matter with some maturity. Here's the short answer. Pregnancy should be viewed as a matter of intent. If a man uses a condom, he intends to prevent a pregnancy. He cannot be held responsible of the woman gets pregnant. If the woman intends to avoid a pregnancy, she is responsible for her own form of birth control. Therefore, if the woman is on the pill, the man uses a condom, it is extreme… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/11 11:01 PM |
| 9 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.How do you arrive at that conclusion? If I was financially exploiting him, I would be dragging him to court, running up attorney fees, making his life miserable, refusing to accommodate his schedule. When he couldn't pay, I picked up the slack. You see, the difference is, we aren't assholes bent on getting revenge, or having more power, or winning. We don't view child support as punishment for either of us, but what is necessary to raise a kid, which we both understand costs money. Funny, no one… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/11 10:56 PM |
| -3 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.Your logic doesn't follow. Burglary is a crime of force. This woman did not force him to not use a condom. He could also get a vasectomy. He willingly agreed to have sex without taking adequate measures to prevent a pregnancy. No one is trying scare you by using punctuation. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/11 10:47 PM |
| -2 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.That's easy. I don't want to pay to raise your kids. (I am using you as an example.) You didn't put on a condom, it resulted in a pregnancy, a child was born. If you don't support it, and the mother is unable to, I have to through my tax dollars. There's no incentive for you to avoid making more children I have to support. This, in turn, means I have fewer resources for my own offspring. Now, I do have a definite opinion about men who do use a condom not being forced to raise a child they do not… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/11 10:41 PM |
| 2 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.Perhaps some remedial classes in reading comprehension might help. My comment wasn't about the system in general, but that it isn't true that "nice guys always finish last." You might take a page from my ex-husband's book and realize that doing shit like name-calling and insulting people isn't going to make someone else want to cooperate with you. Some adults are capable of working out their own arrangement regarding the care and support of children without it becoming adversarial. Perhaps you w… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/11 10:36 PM |
| -1 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.So how do you get from "jaywalking > death penalty" to me saying the guy is a deadbeat? Really, show me where I said anything like that. And B). how does that change my argument? If you know you'll get the death penalty for jaywalking, and you jaywalk, do you have any right to be shocked and surprised at the penalty when you were aware of the consequence, and there was an easily accessible crosswalk five feet away? Did someone force him to jaywalk? You should bow out of the discussion since you'… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/11 08:51 PM |
| -2 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.He entered into an "agreement" when he had sex with her without taking steps to prevent a pregnancy. I do not get to use my ISP's service, and then when the bill comes I don't get to claim it's unjust. I entered that arrangement freely. He had a choice. If he felt that supporting a child is unjust, he could have not had vaginal intercourse, had a vasectomy, or wore a condom. He understood the consequences of conceiving a child in that he would pay for that child for the next 18 years, whether he… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/11 08:46 PM |
| -7 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.To assume he is a deadbeat because he can't pay up is presumptuous at best. People are a lot less black and white out in the real world than you think and chances are they're economically hurting. Let's try this again. The discussion is not about whether he's a "deadbeat" (your word, not mine), or that his inability to pay is the issue. So let's remove the emotional rhetoric and go back to the discussion at hand or would you prefer to just make up shit and argue that? Peter_Principle: No child s… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/11 08:37 PM |
| -9 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.It's not "unfair." If you have sex without a condom, your chances of a pregnancy are fairly good. Whether you're in a loving relationship or not, the reality of the situation is that you're going to have to financially support that child, with the laws we currently have in place. This is no surprise. No condom > possible pregnancy > potential child > support kid financially for at least 18 years. Every sexually active male has this drilled into his head. Love, marriage or committed relationship … | /r/MensRights | 08/12/11 07:59 PM |
| -5 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.Someone forced you to fuck a woman and not use a condom? | /r/MensRights | 08/12/11 07:13 PM |
| 7 | Police entered my locked home and arrested me Monday for a child support warrant.Not necessarily. My ex was a "nice guy" and paid more than he was ordered for about two years. It really helped me be able to buy a house. We then agreed on a lower amount which was a one-third less than he was paying. We have never followed the provisions of the divorce decree in regards to visitation or CS. I'm now having financial difficulties due to the economy, he's picking up more of the expenses. Not every situation is adversarial, unless someone wants to make it that way. | /r/MensRights | 08/12/11 07:11 PM |
| 2 | So my gf stopped taking the pill 4-6 months ago, without telling me, and last week found out that she's 17 weeks pregnant.And this is where I think the "mens' rights" community comes into play. Perhaps some sort of informal education toward younger men would be in order, if for no other reason than to avoid this scenario (although I agree that the laws should be changed which allow men to opt out of financial support in such cases as these). Thank you for your reasoned responses. | /r/MensRights | 01/12/11 04:05 AM |
| 2 | So my gf stopped taking the pill 4-6 months ago, without telling me, and last week found out that she's 17 weeks pregnant.I have a hard time believing that there weren't warning signs. This is manipulative behavior of the highest order. Demanding a higher standard of behavior in all areas would probably take men a long way in avoiding this scenario. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/11 10:46 PM |
| 1 | So my gf stopped taking the pill 4-6 months ago, without telling me, and last week found out that she's 17 weeks pregnant.Yeah, this sucks that this is happening to you, the laws are fucked, your gf is manipulative and dishonest, but. . . . This will no doubt be downvoted into oblivion, but why don't men ever take responsibility for a). choosing "crazy chicks" for a relationship; b). their inability to recognize that their girlfriend doesn't make good choices and act appropriately (as in dump the crazy bitch and find someone who is honest and forthright); and c). their own unwillingness to use a condom or have a va… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/11 10:15 PM |
| 6 | Lawyer: "Frequently ... deprive the children of contact with the deployed parent through Skype or even telephone. My patience wears thin when I see mean-spirited parents (usually mothers) refuse to permit the children to keep building memories of the absent parent. "These issues make me wonder why people marry others of questionable ethics and morals and then wonder why they behave like assholes after the divorce. People do not suddenly turn into jerks. There were warning signs WHILE you dated them, you just chose to ignore them. | /r/MensRights | 03/09/11 07:08 PM |
| 1 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?You think BMI is a good indicator of "health"? | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 11:59 PM |
| 1 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?Define "healthy weight." | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 09:41 PM |
| 1 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?Again, how can you tell someone is thin because of healthy lifestyle versus smoking and bulimia? We're talking about women who earn their living looking beautiful and smoke -- top models. Can you tell which ones are that way because of yoga and organic foods? How can someone do something like smoke (which is far more damaging that being overweight) and still "appear" healthy? | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 08:52 PM |
| 3 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?So thinness equals virtue? That makes crack whores and bulimics quality human beings? | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 08:40 PM |
| 1 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?What about fat athletes? You know, the ones who really are carrying around a lot of poundage that isn't muscle? World Series champion CC Sabathia, age 20, 6'7" 290 pounds. James Toney Heavyweight Boxer, age 42, 257 pounds. Charles Barkley, 252 lbs. Babe Ruth, 6'2", 215 lbs. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 06:48 PM |
| 0 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?What about fat athletes? World Series champion CC Sabathia, age 20, 6'7" 290 pounds and visibly overweight. James Toney Heavyweight Boxer, age 42, 257 pounds. Boxers are considered some of the most conditioned athletes. Yeah, he looks like a fat slob. Charles Barkley, 252 lbs. Babe Ruth, 6'2", 215 lbs. These people wouldn't be considered "muscular" by anyone's definition of the word. Regarding your comments that "fat people are not active in general", you seem to miss out the point that there ar… | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 06:40 PM |
| -1 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?No, you're just wrong and being dishonest about the whole issue. There are many overweight athletes, people who look like fat slobs. It does not appear to affect their performance. Weight, unless on the extreme ends of the spectrum, has little to do with fitness. Looking at someone's body type is no indicator of their health, but their lifestyle IS. There are many, many, many thin and incredibly unhealthy people out there. Ever seen a healthy long term meth user? How about an obese lifelong crac… | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 06:36 PM |
| 0 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?And you keep telling yourself that looking healthy is the same thing as being healthy. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 06:32 PM |
| 0 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?Really? So you would categorize most runway models as healthy even with all the bulimia, anorexia and smoking? | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 06:30 PM |
| 1 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?I found that men tended to lie about their age, or would pose their photos leaning on a car they didn't own, or in a front of a house that wasn't their's. Women would lie most about their weight and would post photos that were decades out of date. Some women would completely fabricate profiles and were married, just so they could feel desirable again. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 06:29 PM |
| 0 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?"Healthiness" has nothing to do with weight, but with your cardio fitness level. Are these people delusional or liars? World Series champion CC Sabathia, age 20, 6'7" 290 pounds and visibly overweight. James Toney Heavyweight Boxer, age 42, 257 pounds. Boxers are considered some of the most conditioned athletes. Yeah, he looks like a fat slob. Charles Barkley, 252 lbs. Babe Ruth, 6'2", 215 lbs. I can give you plenty more examples. How do you explain these athletes having a healthy lifestyle, ear… | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 06:26 PM |
| 0 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?It's not me who's doing the skewing. Now weight clauses are written into contracts. A new study by The Associated Press reveals that nearly half of NBA players qualify as overweight using the body-mass index (BMI). According to the BMI, the only NBA player at a healthy weight is Mavericks center Shawn Bradley. SOURCE | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 06:15 PM |
| 1 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?And you see that in a photo how? You don't see it in a photo, but if you actually go on to read the profile, you'll see that the individual in question is very physically active. That is probably a greater indicator than looking at a photo of someone's face. The issue was the idea proposed that a woman who was overweight, but physically active must be lying. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 07:33 AM |
| -2 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?So all those cancer patients, anorexics, bulimics, Celiac sufferers are likely more physically fit than an obese person who plays softball three times a week? There are plenty of people who lift weights to develop muscle definition who are not physically "fit." Lifting weights has nothing to do with cardio fitness. One can have a great deal of muscle definition and not be fit, nor be healthy. Looking good has zero to do with fitness, try as you might to justify it. What you don't seem to get is … | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 07:29 AM |
| 0 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?Your statement is not true, nor is being overweight and athletic an "exception." One study by Michigan State University showed that two-thirds of male college athletes and one-third of females were overweight. These were college athletes. I can give you scores of examples of obese and overweight PROFESSIONAL PAID ATHLETES. I'm not talking about a rare example, but scores of people who are physically fit and still qualify as overweight and even obese. Actually, you originally asserted that a woma… | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 07:20 AM |
| 1 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?Well, perhaps you could look at it this way. Take one class a week in a predominantly chick arena -- such as yoga. Do that instead of going to a bar. You'll be happier, healthier and I'm betting laid a lot more. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 07:04 AM |
| 1 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?BMI doesn't measure shit when it comes to fitness, unless you're at the extreme ends of the spectrum -- and at that point, weight is usually the symptom of a greater medical problem. Cardio fitness is a better indicator of overall health. Excess adipose tissue has very little to no bearing on fitness. In fact, someone who is able to run three miles and is 50 pounds overweight is healthier than a couch potato who is 20 pounds underweight, if all other factors are equal. Attempting to make weight … | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 07:02 AM |
| 0 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?I don't have a problem with that, but this pretentiousness that they are looking for someone "healthy" -- when what they really want is hot looking. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 06:50 AM |
| 2 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?Take an exercise class that caters to women. The last one I was in had 25 women and two men. Pussy galore. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 01:26 AM |
| 1 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?VO2Max. The volume of oxygen you can consume while exercising at your maximum capacity. Those who are fit have higher VO2max values and can exercise more intensely than those who are not as well conditioned. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 01:24 AM |
| 1 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?I think you'd be better off in a grocery store. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 01:12 AM |
| 0 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?So you're saying that there are no fat people at gyms? | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 01:11 AM |
| 1 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?That's exactly it. This site didn't have that type of matching at the time, so it was based on age and zip code. What I discovered is that online dating was just another layer of deception that made people feel like that were "doing something" about finding a mate, but in reality, they were just going through the motions. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 01:03 AM |
| 1 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?Yeah, that's why NFL linebackers are so slim. Right? | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 01:01 AM |
| 2 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?Most NFL players are obese. Most NBA players are overweight or obese. The most physically fit people in my boxing club were overweight women, not younger dudes with 4% body fat. Muscle definition has nothing to do with cardio fitness or athleticism. Being physically active does not equate with thinness. (Go over to /r/fittit and see that it is what you eat, not how you move that makes the biggest difference.) The most physically fit person I know is a middle-aged woman who is fat and she teaches… | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 12:26 AM |
| 1 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?Perhaps, but I made both women age 35 so they could draw from men as young as 25 and as old as 50. Honestly, I don't think most men read the profiles. I made the second one start out by saying, "I am not slender or thin. . ." so I doubt too many guys read past that. I had intended to go further and try it in different zip codes all over the US and log the responses and then write a magazine article about it, but the second girl's one response was from a guy who wrote that he had waited his entir… | /r/MensRights | 03/08/11 12:04 AM |
| 1 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?I'm not sure if I still have the images on my hard drive. The funny thing is that someone reported the blond girl's profile after the second day and it was pulled. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/11 11:17 PM |
| 6 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?It wasn't that they messaged girl 1, it was that they didn't want the high quality girl who was less physically appealing. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/11 11:11 PM |
| 38 | When dating, is it a big deal that she have a job, car, college education, and place of her own?I did a test of this. I went to one of the very large, free dating forums and made two profiles of women, identical ages, zip codes and birthdates. I used model images for the photos. One was a blond, taken from behind wearing a bikini. No face shot at all. I made her profile as bad as I possibly could, including spelling and grammar errors, she had no HS diploma, had lost custody of her three kids, divorced twice, smoked three packs a day, had a serious drug habit, never exercised, and would on… | /r/MensRights | 02/08/11 09:03 PM |
| 2 | I Cheated On My Husband To Secure Better Genes For My ChildrenI'll bring the beer. Pick me up at 4 a.m. | /r/MensRights | 09/06/11 04:34 PM |
| 1 | I Cheated On My Husband To Secure Better Genes For My ChildrenYes, and I will STILL pick up the check. We'll meet for beers, have interesting discussions and I'll even be your wing man. | /r/MensRights | 09/06/11 08:16 AM |
| 2 | I Cheated On My Husband To Secure Better Genes For My ChildrenOnly if you will take me fishing. We can negotiate the rest. | /r/MensRights | 09/06/11 08:15 AM |
| 2 | I Cheated On My Husband To Secure Better Genes For My ChildrenI don't believe in marriage. It's a losing proposition. Hell, who here will work for the same company for 50 years? Anyone at all? Why do we think we should be legally bound to another for the same time frame. In fact, I think there should be no marriage, UNLESS there are children involved and only for the duration of the child's school years. I believe that every marriage license should require a prenuptial agreement as to how the marriage will be dissolved so there isn't this huge bitter fight… | /r/MensRights | 06/06/11 08:27 PM |
| 35 | I Cheated On My Husband To Secure Better Genes For My ChildrenAs a woman, I believe it should be. I think that a routine blood test should be performed at the time of birth, along with the mother and father. This way, the parent can be assured the child they are taking home is their own. The reason it doesn't exist is because, in the past, it wasn't available so it was based on everyone's word. If, at that time, the paternity of the child is in question, the father should have the right to refuse to have his name placed on the birth certificate. The mother… | /r/MensRights | 06/06/11 05:48 AM |
| 1 | I can't make the money work, post-divorce. What do I do?Yes, women should care about a man's integrity and morals rather than excitement. Hard to believe, but this would result in a much stronger relationship. This is why marriages fail, because people have their priorities screwed up. Sexual attraction should be the result of creating a spiritual bond with the person based on their character and morals, not what they look like. A relationship should not be the result of sexual attraction. Sexual attraction should be the result of a relationship. You… | /r/MensRights | 31/05/11 05:44 AM |
| 2 | I can't make the money work, post-divorce. What do I do?"Same financial situation" is $100,000 a year. | /r/MensRights | 31/05/11 05:41 AM |
| 0 | I can't make the money work, post-divorce. What do I do?Yes, people do change and start to feel entitled. You may consider going to her and telling her that either she cuts child support, or she's in for the legal battle of her life. She may be as tired of it as you are. | /r/MensRights | 31/05/11 05:40 AM |
| 0 | I can't make the money work, post-divorce. What do I do?Oh my, I am so sorry. Did you know she was a money-grubbing bitch when you married her? I'm just wondering how so many men get blindsided by women like this, as if they just one day wake up and take advantage of them. Surely there must have been some indication along the way? You should really consider going back to court. I would go after full custody of the kids because, in the long run, it will be cheaper. Courts are getting more and more sympathetic toward fathers. You won't be paying child … | /r/MensRights | 30/05/11 04:01 AM |
| 1 | I can't make the money work, post-divorce. What do I do?I guess I have to ask why men marry women like this? Why don't men put character higher on their lists -- higher than what-makes-my-dick-hard? It seems like men just want someone they are highly sexually attracted to instead of someone who has a heart of gold. Even my ex tells me he's having a hard time finding qualities in a potential mate that don't involve him turning over all his income to her. . . and yet, he still MUST have someone beautiful first and foremost. He won't consider dating an … | /r/MensRights | 30/05/11 03:57 AM |
| 11 | I can't make the money work, post-divorce. What do I do?Have you considered speaking to your ex-wife about this? A woman here, and I'm sure I'll be crucified for this, but this happened with me and my ex. His employer went bankrupt and his income was cut drastically. He explained the situation and I voluntarily cut the child support by one-third because it was more important for me to have my kids see their father as a strong individual, rather the poverty stricken. Besides, I was making decent money at the time and could afford to do it. Barring tha… | /r/MensRights | 29/05/11 05:20 AM |
| 2 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.Wow, you're still at it? | /r/MensRights | 06/03/11 05:30 PM |
| 1 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.You actually think anyone cares. It's so sad. You have a lot invested in this. Did a woman hurt your feelings? I am so sorry if she did. Your pain is palpable. | /r/MensRights | 05/03/11 07:10 PM |
| 2 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.Honestly, I haven't been reading your responses. Just typing something out to see how long you'll spew your vitriol. | /r/MensRights | 05/03/11 06:18 PM |
| 1 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.I just found you to be rather argumentative and refusing to discuss the issue in a rational manner. I stopped really participating about three or four posts ago. | /r/MensRights | 04/03/11 11:05 PM |
| 1 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.You also can't prove you didn't rape the woman, yet somehow we don't have a lot of that going on, either. | /r/MensRights | 04/03/11 07:55 PM |
| 1 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.Oh, I see the problem. You believe under my scenario is that men are forced to have sex with women and not use a condom. | /r/MensRights | 04/03/11 07:33 PM |
| 1 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.And you would be wrong. Women will return to not having sex outside of a legal contract making men responsible for their offspring. | /r/MensRights | 04/03/11 06:26 PM |
| 1 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.The reason there wasn't a slew of unwanted children is because women were less likely to fuck outside of a marriage. Under your proposal, you'll never get laid (if you even are now). | /r/MensRights | 03/03/11 09:08 PM |
| 2 | Having a vagina does not make being fucking retarded acceptable.He connected with mothers in New Hampshire, Idaho, Florida, New Hampshire and elsewhere Fucking AP can't afford to hire a proofreader? | /r/MensRights | 03/03/11 02:15 PM |
| 1 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.Your intent to become a father, or lack of one, can no more be proven by your wearing a condom than by going in raw-style. And neither can rape. But I guess you missed that post, too. le sigh Why don't you just admit you want to have zero responsibility for how and where you stick your dick? At least then, I'd respect your honesty. And let's talk STUPID. People like you out there humping without protection will produce a slew of unwanted children, which will end up being supported by the state, … | /r/MensRights | 28/02/11 10:32 PM |
| 1 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.I didn't realize you had reading comprehension problems. Thank you for clarifying that. It should be treated as a verbal contract. "I don't want children so I'm using a rubber," would be sufficient and "If I get pregnant, I'm not having an abortion." A man who fails to use protection should be viewed as consenting to the pregnancy. A woman who sabotages a condom should be charged with a felony. It either party lies to coerce the other into sex, then it's fraud (this should include whether or not… | /r/MensRights | 28/02/11 07:36 PM |
| 1 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.You need to look up the word "intent" and then get back to me. The woman stealing the condom, or the condom breaking does not negate his intent. | /r/MensRights | 28/02/11 06:28 PM |
| 1 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.When you say that woman should not be able to "force" a man to become a father, what do you suggest happens to the baby? Even if you choose to not support the offspring, it is still your child and you are, in fact, a father. Unless, of course, you force her to have an abortion. Hence my point. I suggest instead of making your little snide comments, you define your terms better. So you think that a man should be able to have sex without using birth control if he finds it icky, and if the woman ge… | /r/MensRights | 28/02/11 05:39 PM |
| 1 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.If you can demand that a woman have an abortion, you can also demand that she carry the baby to term. That is the problem. She gets pregnant, you do not. You have no right to dictate what she does with her body, any more than she has the right to dictate you have a vasectomy. I dunno, maybe you shouldn't be sticking your dick in woman that you don't want to be the mother of your children without using birth control? This isn't fucking rocket science. You don't want kids, use birth control yourse… | /r/MensRights | 28/02/11 04:19 PM |
| 1 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.And that is exactly what I said. A man whose intention is to NOT have a child, who communicates that intention and acts on it, should not be forced to support it. The difference is our definition of "intention." That doesn't mean, "Oh, gee, I didn't want to get you pregnant even though I don't use condoms" is the same as, "I don't want a child and I'm going to use protection." An abortion isn't an "easy" button, it is a difficult, painful and often heartbreaking decision. I would suggest that a … | /r/MensRights | 28/02/11 06:59 AM |
| 1 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.We're talking contracts, not criminal law. | /r/MensRights | 28/02/11 05:58 AM |
| 1 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.I don't understand what you are asking. A man can't force a woman to have a pregnancy, because it places a physical toll on her body, and can result in all kind of complications, including death. This isn't a tit-for-tat situation. Men contribute about 1 tablespoon of biological material, a woman has to form an entire human being. Get real. | /r/MensRights | 28/02/11 05:58 AM |
| 1 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.Actually, anyone can accuse you of anything without proof. You can be sued for any number of baseless things. Why don't you stop being so pissed off at women and try finding a rational solution to the problem? | /r/MensRights | 27/02/11 11:11 PM |
| 1 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.You don't get it. If you stick your dick in a woman without her using birth control, don't be surprised if she gets pregnant and you pay child support for the next 18 years. Your intention is separate from her's. You can't say that the woman is responsible for the birth control and then bitch about her having all the say in whether she keeps the child or not (and the man pays). What I am saying is that pregnancy should be treated like a verbal contract, based on your intention. If the woman take… | /r/MensRights | 27/02/11 06:44 AM |
| 1 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.How do you prove you didn't rape the woman? Your whole argument breaks down right there. You seem to believe that this is something that has occurred in the last 40 years. I suggest you do some research on the history of marriage. Really. | /r/MensRights | 26/02/11 06:13 PM |
| 2 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.Yes, that's why your posts are upvoted and mine are down? The same type of discussion elsewhere on reddit does not result in massive downvotes. . . gang voting makes people not want to contribute here. It's a symptom of this reddit, not the site as a whole. Sadly, it's people like me who are an example of sympathetic women now turned off by the topic because of it. Might as well rename the reddit /r/mensrightscirclejerk | /r/MensRights | 25/02/11 08:44 PM |
| 1 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.You said:* Would you want to be forced to give your money toward something you consider murder?* I said: Since you're opposed to war, you're already supporting something morally repugnant. It refutes your argument perfectly. You implied people would not want their taxes being used to "murder" people, I'm showing you that statement is incorrect. People already do pay to kill people -- via wars and capital punishment. Over population means there are too many to be supported by the environment. It … | /r/MensRights | 25/02/11 07:52 PM |
| 3 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.Yeah, I don't think I'll be contributing much here any more, if that is the case. So I guess they really don't want dialogue. | /r/MensRights | 25/02/11 07:46 PM |
| 0 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.Big surpise -- downvotes in Men's Rights. I guess they don't really want to discuss the issue and explore possible solutions, but just bitch about it. | /r/MensRights | 25/02/11 05:57 AM |
| 0 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.No, I am not using "free" incorrectly. In the context of the original discussion, I was speaking about it being free for pregnant women. We also have "free" vaccination programs in our country, because the government believes that it's something that should be paid for. Obviously, you understood what I was talking about, otherwise, you wouldn't have brought up the taxation issue. Since you're opposed to war, you're already supporting something morally repugnant. Just because you aren't suffering… | /r/MensRights | 25/02/11 05:55 AM |
| 2 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.If the man intended to avoid getting her pregnant, then he does not support the child AND forfeits all rights to the baby. Even if she said she was on the pill, it does not absolve him from using a condom. Man doesn't want baby > wife claims on the pill > doesn't matter, uses condom anyway. | /r/MensRights | 25/02/11 05:47 AM |
| 2 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.Who said anything about signing a contract? I said "verbal contract." You make verbal contracts all the time. Under my scenario, it wouldn't matter if the woman was unscrupulous or not as each party is responsible for their own birth control. Men would not take the women's word into consideration, because he would have to establish his "intent" to not have children by wearing a condom. In this day and age to not use one outside of a monogamous relationship is stupid. | /r/MensRights | 25/02/11 04:12 AM |
| 1 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.I didn't suggest that doctors shouldn't get paid, where did you get that idea? Would you want to be forced to give your money toward something you consider murder? How do you think we finance our wars? Who do you think pays for capital punishment? Hell, I can name you six or seven things I'm morally opposed to that our tax dollars support. . . How do you feel about your tax dollars going to welfare to support unwanted children? How do you feel about tax breaks for wealthy churches? The fact is t… | /r/MensRights | 25/02/11 04:03 AM |
| 1 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.so, if i don't wear a condom that's me implicitly saying 'i definitely want to get you pregnant and i accept full responsibility for any kids that may come out of you.'? Yes, that's pretty much it. It is a legal issue. Assuming you're an adult, you know how babies are made. If your intention is to not get her pregnant, you use birth control -- regardless of whether she is or not. Every fucking time. It goes to court, you drag in all your past sexual partners, they testify you always used condoms… | /r/MensRights | 25/02/11 03:37 AM |
| 5 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.Under my scenario, a man would have the option. He wears a condom, makes it clear he doesn't want children before the couple has sex, he's free to forfeit his right to the child. | /r/MensRights | 25/02/11 01:32 AM |
| -2 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.It is not "unprovable" -- men can simply wear a condom and ignore any claims by the woman that she is infertile. You don't want to pay to raise a kid? Wear a condom. Wear a condom. Wear a condom. | /r/MensRights | 25/02/11 01:31 AM |
| -1 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.It's not a difficult situation, it's just one that sucks. If enough men pressure the leadership, the laws will change. But right now, it is to the government's advantage to have men footing the bill for these babies and not welfare. | /r/MensRights | 25/02/11 01:29 AM |
| -10 | “No man can call himself free who does not own and control his own body. No man can call himself free until he can choose consciously whether he will or will not become a father” - Margret Sanger, but with genders reversed.Here's the difference. Women can die in childbirth, women can die from an abortion. A man is not likely going to die from having to support a child. Not everyone places a monetary value on their health and safety, so trying to equate losing $100G versus possible death or sterilization doesn't exactly work. Additionally, women have an equal impact on their life -- 18 years, countless more hours devoted to child care, the cost of raising a child and possible imprisonment if they fail to do so. The… | /r/MensRights | 24/02/11 10:04 PM |
| 1 | Manning Up or Wimping Out: Men Don’t Exist to Serve Women’s DesiresI wish I could remember where I read the article, but it was about this very subject. It discussed how men "followed" trends that made them appear to be adolescents. The author talked about men's clothing, how there was no difference in dress regardless of whether a guy was four, or forty (e.g. big baggy shorts, sneakers, oversized t-shirt, ball cap, etc.) It was society that was pressuring men to remain forever an adolescent and did not differentiate between an 18 year-old and a 50 year-old -- … | /r/MensRights | 24/02/11 08:19 AM |
| 6 | So I went to get my Carry Concealed Weapons Permit class done today. . .It isn't the criminal charges you should worry about, it's the civil suit afterward. People have been sued for killing a scumbag breaking into their house because the criminal's family have proven that they would suffer financially from the loss of income from the criminal's drug business. No shit. | /r/MensRights | 21/02/11 06:51 AM |
| 3 | For years my wife has been on me to share housework equally and we agreed to do so. She was stunned and enraged when I asked her to pump gas, shovel snow, carry boxes, take car to shop, etc. and refused saying its unfair. I told her she is not a feminist and she agreed. She is happier now. The end.Some women will complain about the division of labor when they feel like their life has become drudgery. I'm not saying this is happening to your wife, I am merely suggesting it may be a possibility. Anyway, when women feel like all they do is cook, clean, work, etc. they tend to determine why there exists so little pleasure in their life. They BELIEVE that if their partner did more to "help them" then they would have more fun. They do not stop to consider that maybe their expectations are unrea… | /r/MensRights | 20/02/11 06:48 PM |
| 2 | For years my wife has been on me to share housework equally and we agreed to do so. She was stunned and enraged when I asked her to pump gas, shovel snow, carry boxes, take car to shop, etc. and refused saying its unfair. I told her she is not a feminist and she agreed. She is happier now. The end.:) | /r/MensRights | 20/02/11 03:01 AM |
| 4 | For years my wife has been on me to share housework equally and we agreed to do so. She was stunned and enraged when I asked her to pump gas, shovel snow, carry boxes, take car to shop, etc. and refused saying its unfair. I told her she is not a feminist and she agreed. She is happier now. The end.It seems like there are much more important things to worry about. | /r/MensRights | 19/02/11 11:34 PM |
| 11 | For years my wife has been on me to share housework equally and we agreed to do so. She was stunned and enraged when I asked her to pump gas, shovel snow, carry boxes, take car to shop, etc. and refused saying its unfair. I told her she is not a feminist and she agreed. She is happier now. The end.I gave him my money, he decided how it was spent. | /r/MensRights | 19/02/11 11:33 PM |
| 13 | For years my wife has been on me to share housework equally and we agreed to do so. She was stunned and enraged when I asked her to pump gas, shovel snow, carry boxes, take car to shop, etc. and refused saying its unfair. I told her she is not a feminist and she agreed. She is happier now. The end.You know, it's not like we have to slaughter our own animals or plow a field. "Work" is pretty much the same. A man without a woman around does his own laundry and cooking; a woman without a man takes care of her car or shoveling the sidewalk. Either they do these things themselves, or pay for someone else to do it. Getting all up in arms about perceived gender roles is stupid. | /r/MensRights | 19/02/11 08:27 PM |
| 24 | For years my wife has been on me to share housework equally and we agreed to do so. She was stunned and enraged when I asked her to pump gas, shovel snow, carry boxes, take car to shop, etc. and refused saying its unfair. I told her she is not a feminist and she agreed. She is happier now. The end.Why in the hell is there "men's work" and "women's work"? Why not jobs to be done that one person is more skilled at doing, or prefers? And why is this considered "feminism" instead of merely rational? In my house, my ex did all the laundry because he was better at it. I took care of the cars because I cared that the oil got changed regularly. He did the grocery shopping because he like it, I cooked. He took out the garbage because I don't see well at night. He disposed of wild creatures that ma… | /r/MensRights | 19/02/11 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Are most relationships with women really like this?I don't date anymore because I'm not willing to be someone else. It's kind of a Catch-22 situation -- I'm independent because I don't have a man around to rely on, but my independence is a turn off to them. It's so stupid. Should I NOT make money? Should I pretend I'm poor only to have him feel like he was fooled? | /r/MensRights | 19/02/11 12:10 AM |
| 1 | Are most relationships with women really like this?I know this is important to men, but they don't care. They all tell me they just want someone who has a job and isn't in debt up to their eyeballs. The reason they make that kind of money is because they really don't have anything else to do BUT focus on their careers. I do see your point. I was fixed up on a date once and we had a lot in common, had a great time and I wanted to see him again. He told a mutual friend I was "too independent" -- as in financially. I am wondering if it would be eas… | /r/MensRights | 18/02/11 08:38 PM |
| 1 | Are most relationships with women really like this?If you want to discuss women, I believe they are more likely to reject a man for a lack of success rather than physical attractiveness. But that wasn't what this thread was about. | /r/MensRights | 17/02/11 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Are most relationships with women really like this?My point wasn't about women, if you would like to analyze that, we could. And yes, people do fall in love with personality -- all the time. That is why you see people who are disfigured and married. I am sure it wasn't a case of, "Wow, I'd really like to make it with a burn victim." I, myself, have been fixed up with incredibly ugly men, and have fallen in love with one (who was disfigured from having his face shattered) based on his personality. There are some people who do separate physical de… | /r/MensRights | 17/02/11 09:02 PM |
| 2 | Are most relationships with women really like this?I knew a guy who said the same thing about the women in his area -- except for some reason, most of them had bad teeth, as in missing-every-molar-on-the-right-side-of-their-mouth type of bad. I have noticed that men are different in various cities and I assume this applies to the ladies as well. Where I live, there is an enormous drug and alcohol problem and it is reflected in the dating pool. There are a lot of candidates (both genders) who simply do not work. I once made a online profile and t… | /r/MensRights | 17/02/11 07:07 AM |
| 2 | Are most relationships with women really like this?Every single time you mention a "hot chick", she is a mean bitch. Every single time you mention a "fat chick", she is "the most wonderful woman in the world". You're wrong. They will not choose an intelligent woman who is also fat and ugly. If they settle, it will often be** a smart woman who isn't ugly, but merely average looking.** This seems to imply that I believe that there are intelligent women who are beautiful. But let's look some more. Women who are very ugly, or fat and the most wonder… | /r/MensRights | 17/02/11 04:01 AM |
| 2 | Are most relationships with women really like this?Okay, go here. Look at the sample profiles for women. Amazing, beautiful, interesting, wonderful women. | /r/MensRights | 17/02/11 03:55 AM |
| 1 | Are most relationships with women really like this?Have you tried Sci-connect? It's like the ultimate bookstore of smart, accomplished and interesting people to date. While I don't think you're going to find a gazillion cool women, the quality is significantly better. | /r/MensRights | 17/02/11 03:49 AM |
| 1 | Are most relationships with women really like this?I do believe that attraction is a choice, or at least, rejection is. You can be attracted to someone who is hot, and stop long enough to see if they have other redeeming qualities. That's the point I'm making, guys see "hot" and that's enough for them. That doesn't mean women are equally as shallow. But this topic isn't about the men women choose, it's about men choosing terrible women. I am not trying to make you feel bad, honest. | /r/MensRights | 17/02/11 03:39 AM |
| 2 | Are most relationships with women really like this?Your age and general location? The youngest one I know is early 30s and lives in Canada. | /r/MensRights | 17/02/11 03:36 AM |
| 5 | Are most relationships with women really like this?I know of a slew of woman who do this and never get asked out -- plus, they have a full-time career and make their own money. I'm talking six figures. They are smart, interesting and funny and really just want a man to take care of and please. I can think of seven women right now who fit your criteria. But all of them are not physically attractive. They dress nice, they make an effort, but they are not what you would call hot. Maybe it's different in your neck of the woods, but where I live, I c… | /r/MensRights | 17/02/11 12:50 AM |
| 2 | Are most relationships with women really like this?I hate to tell you this, but the beauty thing is going to fade. And even if it doesn't, you're probably not going to want to invest the resources into keeping it nice, because you reach a point where the only thing left is surgery. Even if they manage to keep looking good much later in life, you probably aren't going to be physically attracted to it anyway. | /r/MensRights | 17/02/11 12:45 AM |
| 3 | Are most relationships with women really like this?I'm commenting because you seem to really be pushing the 'Shallow Hal' fallacy that physical attractiveness is inversely proportional to their goodness as people. I.e fat, unattractive women are sweet, caring, misunderstood individuals and attractive, fit women are bitches. That is not what I was saying. Please show me where I said all ugly women are saints. Attractive women don't have to develop very many skills beyond physical beauty to date because very few men demand anything of them. They c… | /r/MensRights | 17/02/11 12:42 AM |
| 3 | Are most relationships with women really like this?Well, it couldn't possibly be the man's fault for marrying an attention whore, could it? | /r/MensRights | 17/02/11 12:29 AM |
| 5 | Are most relationships with women really like this?My point is NOT that there aren't standards of beauty and that both genders negotiate it. My point is that if men want nice, compassionate and caring women, they should move that higher on their priority list. They should start doing things that will attract a woman like this instead of playing in the shallow end of the community pool. It is that for many men, beauty is so important, it comes to the exclusion of all else. Men don't demand beautiful AND quality women because many men will date a … | /r/MensRights | 16/02/11 10:18 PM |
| 5 | Are most relationships with women really like this?And all those women are home watching Oprah. Right. | /r/MensRights | 16/02/11 10:02 PM |
| 5 | Are most relationships with women really like this?Yeah because once women have children, they sit at home and watch television all day. Oh, wait, it must be that extra 4% of the workforce that aren't women. . . | /r/MensRights | 16/02/11 09:02 PM |
| 10 | Are most relationships with women really like this?As a woman, I have an opinion on this that will no doubt be downboated into oblivion. TL;DR It's all about competition. Men (as a whole, we're not talking about you personally or any individual) do not value women for being a good mother, a nice individual, caring, kind, compassionate, or smart. They like these things, but when was the last time you heard a guy say, "I would like to meet a woman who would be good at raising children?" Or, "I would gladly date a troll if she was a genuinely nice … | /r/MensRights | 16/02/11 08:55 PM |
| 1 | Husband's a nurse, and I'm pissed on his behalf. Men =/= child molesters.I wouldn't want my male OB/GYN to see me like that. I had dried blood all over me, had just given birth (Oh God, the mess) and was in pain. In the end, I had a female friend help me because there were no female nurses available. I KNOW it's stupid, but it just makes me really uncomfortable. | /r/MensRights | 11/12/10 08:04 PM |
| 3 | Husband's a nurse, and I'm pissed on his behalf. Men =/= child molesters.I had a male nurse after the birth of my baby, and honestly, I wasn't comfortable with asking him to clean me up. I was uncomfortable about it. Sorry. I can guess there are probably men out there who don't want women doing certain exams on them either. | /r/MensRights | 11/12/10 06:23 AM |
| 2 | Need help getting custody of my daughter.Have you considered talking to your ex wife? You know, offering to help her out while she has this illness? You can suggest she keeps legal custody, but allow you to take over the care of the child while she recuperates. Not all divorces and custody matters have to be adversarial, nor do you always need an attorney. | /r/MensRights | 28/11/10 04:51 AM |
| 0 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."It's ^ this attitude that makes people have no guilt about reporting you to CPS. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/10 06:14 AM |
| 0 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."Because I do not think that items other than food, basic clothing and shelter are a "luxury" does not mean I am materialistic. Your attempt to make this about tampons is laughable. This is about YOUR warped attitudes about a child's needs. That's why you're being reported to CPS because you obviously don't get this isn't about YOU and YOUR fucked up worldview. It's about you foisting your ridiculous ideas on defenseless children who deserve to be raised in a caring environment where their needs … | /r/MensRights | 13/11/10 08:07 PM |
| 0 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."Really? So you can just get up at any time on an airplane while it is taxiing down the runway and use the can? No? You have to leave to "manage" your bathroom time. How about in a courtroom (you're probably familiar with those)? Can you just get and take a wiz? No? How about during a job interview? Is it okay to just stand up and use the bathroom, or should you wait until the interview is over? That is the REAL world, you don't get to go to the bathroom anytime you want. I seriously, seriously d… | /r/MensRights | 13/11/10 03:27 AM |
| 1 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."No, I'm not. I'm saying that children at different points in life cost more. A teenage boy playing hockey or a girl ice skating will cost more than a kid taking toddler dancing or pee wee football. | /r/MensRights | 13/11/10 12:34 AM |
| -1 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."When your kid is flipping hamburgers at a fast food restaurant for lack of an education, my kid will be graduating a master's program from an Ivy League school because I chose to send them to a private, college prep academy (tuition $7,000 a year) which limits their bathroom breaks (just like the real world). Tell me, of all these people that have called CPS on you (because they were concerned for the well-being of your children), were any of them your ex's or your husband's ex's? Why don't you … | /r/MensRights | 11/11/10 11:25 PM |
| -1 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."Yes, because there is only one as I didn't whore around and have children with different men all before the age of 25 (and the obvious maturity level to be able to raise them). I encourage the father's involvement in the child's life, and that includes allowing him to pay child support. He pays more than what is court ordered because it is important to him that his child does not suffer. He spends several nights a month at our house, all holidays and important events. That's because I have decid… | /r/MensRights | 11/11/10 10:47 PM |
| -1 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."the other has never met her biological father, so it would not be sending her "back." Gee, what a surprise. Do you even know who he is? | /r/MensRights | 11/11/10 08:20 PM |
| -1 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."Actually, it is why none of the sanitary manufacturers use cloth, nor do the vast majority of women in the US. It is not as absorbent, nor is it sanitary to carry around blood products (regardless of how you store them). Category 1 biological waste also includes all items containing or contaminated with human blood or fluids. All Category 1 biological waste must be treated by autoclave or with an appropriate chemical disinfecting agent such as bleach prior to pickup. Basically, you're advocating… | /r/MensRights | 11/11/10 07:31 PM |
| -1 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."They are unsanitary and embarrassing for your daughter. Young girls have a particularly difficult time with having periods because of the length of time in classes and the short breaks, especially when the flow is heavy. Cloth is not nearly as absorbent that is why it is no longer used. Duh. I can't imagine trying to safety pin something like to your underwear. Oh god, the thought of changing it is disgusting. Class breaks mean the girls have about two minutes to change. What is your daughter su… | /r/MensRights | 10/11/10 09:59 PM |
| 0 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."Odd coming from someone who claimed to be done with the thread. It appears you are the troll. You do realize when you wash blood, it goes into the sewer system, just like when you flush a tampon, right? | /r/MensRights | 10/11/10 08:00 PM |
| 0 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."So you advocate flushing cloth? That's really environmentally sound. No one has ever called CPS on me or anyone I know. You must be a pretty lousy mother. | /r/MensRights | 10/11/10 05:12 AM |
| 1 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."There's a reason why CPS is coming to your house to investigate the neglect of your children. You can wrap it in all the green environmentalism you want, but sanitary supplies for teenage girls is not a "luxury", nor is it preferable to use non-disposable items. Blood is considered a hazardous biological waste. You remind me of the idiots on frugal living forums that think that quaint practices from the 19th century are somehow more sustainable. These idiots think septic systems and burning garb… | /r/MensRights | 09/11/10 11:03 PM |
| 2 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."Let me tell you, the younger the kids are, the more you feel like a slave. That's why kids going to bed early is so important. You don't have to be hovering over them making sure they don't kill themselves. I think this needs to be acknowledged so parents don't feel like shit for wanting to be rid of their kids for a few hours a week. There was a time when my ex wasn't able to help out in this regard for a full year. It was pure drudgery and I started to get resentful. After the kids hit about a… | /r/MensRights | 09/11/10 10:12 PM |
| 0 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."Anyone who forces their daughter to make sanitary products when it is completely unnecessary is neglectful. Why not just dig a hole in the backyard and crap there so you don't have to pay for a sewer hookup? Your kids probably love being the object of ridicule for their mother's ridiculous lifestyle choices. Congratulations. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/10 09:13 PM |
| 0 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."Ugh, your poor kids. Neglect of such magnitude that you've been reported more than once and yet, you persist in believing that basic health care is a luxury. And sadly, you keep having more children. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/10 07:30 PM |
| 0 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."You may think it is noble to not ask for child support, but I say that is a terrible thing to do to a child. I can't imagine telling my daughter to sew up her own pads and using them during swimming practice because I'm too [whatever] to expect her father to pay something toward her support. Fuck, if one of my daughter's friends was told this, I would personally buy them tampons and I know my ex husband would not object to me using child support money to do it. That is BARBARIC. I don't know, ma… | /r/MensRights | 09/11/10 07:20 PM |
| 0 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."The kid didn't ask for the divorce and has a right to have his basic needs met. Heath care and medicine is not a luxury any child should be deprived of, regardless of how cruel one parent might be. Sending a girl to school during her period with some sort of feminine product is not a luxury. Sad that you would do this to your offspring or advocate it for ANY child. "Hey, I don't want to be with his bitch of a mother so I'm not paying any more than the bare minimum to keep him alive. No man shoul… | /r/MensRights | 09/11/10 06:53 PM |
| 1 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."It is when they are young and you are spending all your free time with them. Yes, it is. Anyone who says they don't want or need a break is lying. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/10 06:41 PM |
| 2 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."And I was using that figure because many posts seem to think that a total of $250 is adequate to support a child. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/10 06:29 PM |
| 1 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."I wasn't talking about the man or the woman. My guess is that the cost of raising a child in the US is about $1,000 a month, but then, I actually raise a child so I would know. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/10 05:41 PM |
| 3 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."You mean because I actually KNOW what it costs to raise a kid? I suspect that many people who think all you need is food and shelter to raise a child properly, and that $250 a month is plenty, probably had little to do with raising the child while they were married. The reason my ex doesn't bitch about child support is because he is well aware of the costs -- and because I provide him with receipts and tell him about every extra expense. Yesterday's trip to the doctor was $600. Anyone who believ… | /r/MensRights | 09/11/10 05:08 PM |
| 0 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."Try telling a court that. | /r/MensRights | 09/11/10 05:00 PM |
| 1 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."There is something to be said for this. Some people believe that the only "support" a child needs is money to cover basic living expenses. They do not take into account the value of the primary caregiver's time. Often, having a child at home adversely effects your career as you are unable to devote as much attention to getting ahead. Even if you pay the primary caregiver $5 an hour for anything above the 50% time split, and the other party takes the kids for two days on the weekend, that's well … | /r/MensRights | 09/11/10 07:20 AM |
| 1 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."Yeah, they don't need medicine, tuition, doctor visits, tampons, books, school supplies. . . | /r/MensRights | 09/11/10 07:10 AM |
| 4 | A man, suffering from liver failure, owed $30,000 in back child support. They took most of his paycheck (his children were adults). He couldn't feed himself; his lack of nutrition and illness were killing him. Their response: "We don't care; go ahead and die."If the child is female, they are very expensive at that age. Clothing is outrageous as are "necessary items" like make up, tampons (ever price a box of those?), hair care items. If your kid has any health issues, that adds up fast. I have one child who's prescriptions run $125 a month, every month. Entertainment is a big black hole as well. A dance at school, a movie, an outing with friends is a minimum of $20. Then school nickel and dimes you to death, with art supplies, fees, fundraisers, etc.… | /r/MensRights | 09/11/10 07:06 AM |
| 1 | I Pay $1200/month in Child SupportThe bigger question is why you chose to have sex (much less a child) with such an individual? | /r/MensRights | 15/10/10 03:55 PM |
| 7 | I Pay $1200/month in Child SupportAs a woman, I am APPALLED at the number of mothers who attempt to use child support as a way to make a living. It is insane. I would support situations when the amount is disputed to have to be documented with receipts. In other words, if she wants to keep $1,200 a month, she should have to show it costs $2,400 a month to care for the child. And, I think $1,200 is excessive, unless the kid has special needs. I also think that the time spent caring for the child needs to be included in the calcul… | /r/MensRights | 15/10/10 05:04 AM |
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