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Are you seriously doubting what I wrote? I'm a woman, by the way.
/r/MarriedRedPill02/05/17 09:20 PM
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then it comes down to SMV, in which the man will always 'lose' by 'settling' Only if he remains monogamous. Many high-SMV men in this world have it all: A loving wife and mother at home who either explicitly has agreed or turns a blind eye to his affairs with younger women. So long as her position in his life is not threatened this can work out harmoniously and ensure the mutual happiness of both spouses.
/r/MarriedRedPill24/04/17 08:28 AM
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I would be happy to do an AMA (not today though, but I could manage another day soon) and share what I know of how my partner behaves with women (both me and others); he really is a natural and does a lot of stuff that I think could be inspirational, and I would love to contribute something to the community here. (I know it would be better if my partner were to become a contributing member of the community, but alas he doesn't have the motivation.) I'm not sure if the mods agree that it would be…
/r/MarriedRedPill10/04/17 03:24 PM
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I have a "taking out the trash" shit test story: About six months into my relationship with my (highly alpha) man, he had spent two nights in a row at my place for the first time, which was a victory for me since I was always begging him to stay longer and making his time with me as delicious as I could, and finally he had gaven in to temptation. Probably for that reason, when when he was leaving and his hand was on the doorknob, I innocently asked him to bring out the trash (he would be passing…
/r/MarriedRedPill09/04/17 09:35 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aplSQGHPmvI
/r/MarriedRedPill05/04/17 08:18 AM
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Over at RPW I've written at length about how my SMV 10 partner with whom I've been in an LTR for close to a decade has handled the marriage question. Posting the upshot here in case someone can take inspiration. My partner has always maintained the same position: Being married implies that the relationship has a permanence that cannot be secured through a binding promise, only unfolded as the years go by and the relationship remains strong enough to keep us together. My partner does not make pro…
/r/MarriedRedPill26/03/17 10:32 AM
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My apologies!
/r/askMRP20/03/17 02:23 PM
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Yes, but from an evolutionary psych perspective your brain has not caught up with the existence of condoms so that shouldn't factor into it.
/r/askMRP20/03/17 02:22 PM
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Yes. :) Thank you. What do you think of the notion that a man's level of visceral disgust with a high N count (because it seems to me that there is considerable variance) might partly depend on how much his own sexual strategy is based on sticking around and providing for his offspring as opposed to impregnating as many women as possible? (I.e. more beta = more disgusted.)
/r/askMRP20/03/17 02:09 PM
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So would you say that the visceral disgust is linear (increasing as her N count and therefore the number of potential fathers of her baby increases) rather than binary (non-existent if she is a virgin, existent as soon as she has a non-zero N count)?
/r/askMRP20/03/17 02:00 PM
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Looks like you've found the relatable disgust then. :) Just replace women in my previous paragraph with bisexual men. Yes, but I wouldn't care how many men a man had been with, so it's comparable to the virgin / non-virgin distinction but not the distinction between low (but non-zero) N count vs high N count. :) That's the part I'm trying to understand from an evolutionary psych perspective (or other perspective that makes sense of the increased level of visceral disgust).
/r/askMRP20/03/17 01:54 PM
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Not trolling. chance of STD If this were a reason for the visceral disgust, then it would apply to a one night stand too. The other two reasons you provide are relevant only when the man intends to stick around to help provide for the woman's offspring. This is making me wonder whether a man whose sexual strategy relies more on being a good provider is going to feel more visceral disgust for a high N count woman than a man whose sexual strategy relies on impregnating as many women as possible an…
/r/askMRP20/03/17 01:50 PM
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Honestly I don't believe my visceral attraction to a man is affected by how many times he has been married. If a man is wildly attractive in all other ways except the fact of having been married and divorced many times, he's still going to be wildly attractive. Intellectually I'm going to wonder what's wrong with such a man, but as we all know here, reason is not what drives attraction. The only comparable thing I can think of that elicits the same kind of visceral disgust for an otherwise attra…
/r/askMRP20/03/17 01:44 PM
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The psych is in my above response. Only for the distinction between virgins and non-virgins, not for the distinction between low (but non-zero) N counts and high N counts. :)
/r/askMRP20/03/17 01:31 PM
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I think you are right that I did use the word wrong. Sorry for the confusion. I meant by way of illustrating the other side of the coin (the person I responded to gave tells for high N count women; I wanted to give some possible tells for low N count women).
/r/askMRP20/03/17 01:30 PM
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Many theories behind this, but the one that rings most true is that men don't know if the child in the mother's womb is his own, so to avoid cuckholding he couldn't be with a promiscuous woman. Whereas women, always know the child is their's because it comes from her womb. Yes, that's why I say I can understand the desire for a virgin. It's the difference between different non-zero N counts that I don't understand. It seems to me that once a man believes that a woman has been with just one other…
/r/askMRP20/03/17 01:25 PM
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As a woman with a low N count, these are things I recall saying about it in conversations about it in my 20s: If I desire a man enough to sleep with him, then I want to sleep with him more than once (LTR). I believe I can't help but develop a romantic attachment to a man I sleep with. The wounded pride I would feel if I slept with a man who then didn't want to see me again would totally outweigh whatever enjoyment I might have felt during our encounter. Why would I want to be single and sleep ar…
/r/askMRP20/03/17 01:14 PM
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If you want to estimate a girl’s notch count, simply multiple the number of years she has lived on her own by the number 3. If she has lived on campus in college for four years and then moved to a large city for two more, you can rest assured she’s had over 15 cocks in her vagina, and god knows how many more in her mouth. There are definite exceptions for girls who are relationship minded and had boyfriends of more than one year in length, but unless she mentions this, you’re interacting with a …
/r/askMRP20/03/17 12:35 PM
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Thank you for replying. I can understand these reasons from the perspective of a man seeking a wife, but from an evolutionary psychology perspective I thought men just wanted to sow their seed and mate with as many women as possible and that looks and youth are pretty much the only factors affecting a man's level of attraction to a woman. Does this visceral disgust for a woman with a high N count only arise when seeking a long-term mate, then, or do men feel it with a potential ONS too (and what…
/r/askMRP20/03/17 12:31 PM
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Woman here. A sincere question if I may because I've never understood it: What difference does it make to your visceral disgust whether a girl has been with 1 man or 10 or 100 before you? I can understand wanting her to be a virgin, but once she's had one cock besides yours, what difference does it make whether she's had more than one? (And no, I'm not asking because my own N count is high. My N count is 3, all LTRs, and as far as I am aware it's a non-issue for my partner.)
/r/askMRP20/03/17 12:17 PM
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This is fantastically well-written. I want to read your novel.
/r/askMRP14/03/17 11:15 AM
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FWIW: I've been on birth control pills since I was 16 with about five three-to-six month breaks along the way. I'm aware of the research about how it affects sex drive and attraction (which prompted me to take two of the breaks just to see how different I felt) but I have never noticed any difference whether I've been off it or on it, nor have either of my LTR partners. My sex drive and level of attraction to my partner are the same and so are my moods. I realize birth control negatively affects…
/r/askMRP08/03/17 12:45 AM
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Thank you for clarifying. Does that mean MRP is officially against having children in today's climate too?
/r/MarriedRedPill02/03/17 10:18 AM
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Is MRP against the concept of starting a family altogether? I thought that was more TRP/MGTOW and that MRP was more cautiously optimistic about the possibility of a successful marriage and family life.
/r/MarriedRedPill01/03/17 11:13 PM
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I'm glad to hear it! I hope things work out well for you both.
/r/MarriedRedPill01/03/17 05:03 PM
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Woman here. It seems to me that it would be ideal for you if you could keep her as a plate rather than letting her go. I understand that if she moved to the new city right now to be with you, you'd feel responsible for her in a way you'd rather not at this point, and I think it makes sense to tell her to stay put for now. But why can't she come visit you every once in a while in the new city? If she's visited a number of times over the course of a year, then both of you will be better equipped t…
/r/MarriedRedPill01/03/17 04:49 PM
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Woman here. Why take for granted that you have to let her go if you want to play the field? You could tell her straight up that you are conflicted because you appreciate your relationship with her but want to play the field before settling down. Tell her that you do see yourself settling down eventually, and if you didn't see her as a possible wife you wouldn't even be having this conversation. Ask her if she could accept that in order to be with you and eventually settle down with you she would…
/r/askMRP25/02/17 10:13 AM
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Got quality HJ (shark week). Genuine question: Is a hand job ever preferred by men over a blow job? I don't believe I've given a single one as an adult. If I'm going to be getting my man off without PIV it's always going to be with a blow job because I never had a request for just using my hand. I feel like it should tell you something if your woman will only give you a hand job in lieu of PIV. Maybe I'm mistaken and some men appreciate the variety?
/r/MarriedRedPill15/02/17 09:08 PM
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poor cost-benefit choice Exactly! Thank you!
/r/askMRP23/12/16 10:53 AM
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This statement seems to be based on the premise that hubby ought to be sharing everything with wifey. In my case it is my SO who wants to be able to share certain sensitive information (not everything!) and know that I won't pass it on. He made this standard explicit and made a big deal of enforcing it early on. So it's his frame that his first officer will not be automatically hooked up to the hive mind. You seem to be arguing that enforcing such a restriction is not possible but my experience …
/r/askMRP23/12/16 10:13 AM
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My SO made it clear early on in our relationship that he wanted to be able to share sensitive information with me and know that I would not share it with anyone else. I crossed the line a few times, peddling information I wasn't supposed to pass on to others, and he gave me hell for it (on the occasion I remember most vividly he didn't talk to me for, like, ten days). Being put on ice like this taught me to shut up and ever since then he has known that he can trust me. For example, if he were in…
/r/askMRP23/12/16 12:03 AM
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My SO teases me all the time about how I like to be in charge in various settings. I'll come back from something and he'll say, "So how's the star of <X group> doing today?" or "So how did you impress them today?" with a grin that lets me know he knows how much I enjoy being on top of things even though I act businesslike about it. It also makes it easy for me to share whatever doubts or insecurities I might have had about my interactions because it makes me want to show him that I'm not just de…
/r/MarriedRedPill25/11/16 11:56 AM
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I'm confused because as I wrote he did give me tingles. Would you mind clarifying what you mean?
/r/MarriedRedPill26/10/16 03:59 PM
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So nothing in what I wrote struck you as stumbling on his part? You just assume he must have stumbled somewhere, do I understand correctly?
/r/MarriedRedPill26/10/16 03:56 PM
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I'm sorry, I still don't understand. What makes you say he stumbled?
/r/MarriedRedPill26/10/16 03:23 PM
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What makes you say he stumbled?
/r/MarriedRedPill26/10/16 02:54 PM
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Oh, then I misunderstood you, sorry. It sounds like we are in perfect agreement.
/r/MarriedRedPill26/10/16 10:05 AM
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On the right day of the month with a guy running the right game...AWALT. I don't know about that. From experience I believe that a woman's propensity to cheat varies greatly according to her interest level in her significant other. My story is that once upon a time I was tipsy and overwhelmed and excited by good game executed on me by a minor celebrity for the second evening in a row. We were at an event at a hotel and it would have been so easy to go with him to his room. However, just as the g…
/r/MarriedRedPill26/10/16 09:44 AM
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Been there, done that. ;) The part in your post I took issue with was this: When dirty talking, bring up the idea of the plug by playing into her fantasy of being double teamed like a dirty slut. Say "hmm, too bad you were so dismissive of the plug. You know, I bet you've fantasized about having two guys in you at the same time, haven't you?" (Because of course they all have, let's not kid ourselves). Work the idea of it in like that. Reassure her that you don't have to have anal with her, but w…
/r/MarriedRedPill24/08/16 07:27 AM
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I mostly lurk and 99% of what I read here about AWALT I concede is true of me, but I in this case I must protest because I really don't find DP to be a turn-on at all. I do fantasize about having sex with more than one man, but in my fantasies the men are taking turns or mayyybe spit roasting (but usually not). There was a story in /r/RandomActsOfBlowJob that I can't find now but the girl who posted it had set up three "acts" in one weekend. The guys she sucked (and in the last case also fucked)…
/r/MarriedRedPill23/08/16 09:43 PM
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Russia and China embraced Communist/Socialist ideals in the early 20th century without an ounce of feminine equality. Point taken - although I would say the creep to nanny state in Western democracies is driven by women voters. Besides, any country that did not/does not allow equal rights would have been socially and economically ostracized as a backward country. That may be - but do you agree with the basic analysis that the world would be better off if women voted the way men do - that men, on…
/r/MarriedRedPill13/08/16 02:22 PM
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I appreciate this post, which gets to the heart of something I'm struggling with, namely the question of whether women's liberation was an experiment that never should have been - in particular, whether women should have received the right to vote. I live in a country in Europe where parties dominated by female voters have first set up welfare nanny states that have slowed down our growth and then supported the huge influx of migrants who fail to integrate into our societies both economically an…
/r/MarriedRedPill13/08/16 08:50 AM
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Women want sex, but only with men we desire. We can take it or leave it with men we feel OK about, and we are frigid with men we have no interest in. Give us tingles and we'll want to have sex with you all the time, we'll fantasize about having sex with you when we aren't, and we'll masturbate to it when we're away from you. You know that early stage of dating everyone describes when they fucked like rabbits? She wasn't faking it. At the time, for whatever reason, she thought you were a prize. T…
/r/MarriedRedPill09/08/16 08:50 PM
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Thanks - it's nice to hear someone appreciates that novel of a comment, haha. :)
/r/RedPillWomen16/06/16 06:38 AM
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Yes, thank you very much! I'm pressed for time today but this was just the elaboration I was looking for! Your experience conforms with my own experience and also provides a great case study illustrating the merits of the recent controversial advice given by /u/Whisper. :)
/r/RedPillWomen27/04/16 08:24 PM
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Excellent list! I agree with every single point, and I think you hit on lots of essential traits. I'm pressed for time but let me add just one that I think is important too: In conflict, he knows there is a time for being a "dove" and a time for being a "hawk". If an aggressor can be appeased through diplomacy without yielding any territory, then he relies on peaceful means, but when aggression is called for in order to stand up for and protect what he values, then he plays hardball and delivers…
/r/RedPillWomen27/04/16 04:21 PM
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Thank you for elaborating! I second the commenter who said what a wonderful story to tell your kids. :) It sounds like you didn't get him to explicitly commit to you and promise you exclusivity before sex, but that he willingly committed to you after sex; is that correct? I ask because there is currently a discussion going on in this sub about whether women should obtain commitment before sex. What is your take on that - and while you're at it, what is your husband's take on that, if you don't m…
/r/RedPillWomen27/04/16 03:32 PM
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Do you want to own a home? No. Neither of us is a nester, and we prefer not to be tied down to a place. Save for retirement? Yes, but we're doing that independently. At least where we live, there are no advantages to being married. Purchase vehicles? Etc.? No. We are city people who are happy to rely on public transportation, bicycles, and walking. And if any of that changes, my partner would be open to marriage on financial grounds. If you get in an accident who will make medical decisions for …
/r/RedPillWomen27/04/16 11:55 AM
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Because it sounds like she married a man with a lot of alpha traits (since he was able to plate women in the past, knows how to pass OP's shit tests and is taking on his role as Captain in their marriage). Note that I did not congratulate her on landing "a" husband, but specifically on landing her husband. It's easy enough to get married, but getting married to a man with a lot of alpha traits is an achievement.
/r/RedPillWomen27/04/16 11:09 AM
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I don't care about insults, but I'm glad you have now upped your game from the mere expression of condescension to engaging in a straightforward discussion of our differences of opinion. As a general note, I really think this subreddit would stand to benefit if everyone would take it upon themselves to engage in less huffing and puffing, because it's all too easy to kid oneself, as you seemed to do at first, that just giving someone else attitude is enough. It is not. If one wants to be taken se…
/r/RedPillWomen27/04/16 11:03 AM
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First, I agree with you that your comments should not be censored. The mod who removed it has accommodated my request to reapprove it, since I was the target of the "insult". Now for my reply: That's correct, but you are leaving out important context, including the rationale for our not marrying. You also fail to address my evaluation of the two options open to me: Staying with a man I am still madly in love with even as we approach a decade together, even though he will not make me a promise to…
/r/RedPillWomen26/04/16 11:13 PM
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Thank you! :)
/r/RedPillWomen26/04/16 11:11 PM
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Wait, hang on - I thought this subreddit was trying to adopt the give-it-to-me-straight tone of the other (male-dominated) TRP subreddits? I don't need to be coddled and I don't appreciate communities that rely on censorship of comments like those of SkylarWyte, instead of simply relying on downvotes and counter-arguments. I would prefer that her comment be reapproved so I can submit the reply I have already written. Will you respect my preference, since I was the target of the "insult"?
/r/RedPillWomen26/04/16 11:02 PM
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Exactly! :)
/r/RedPillWomen26/04/16 09:51 PM
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Actually, as explained elsewhere in this thread, I've never had reason to regret sleeping with a man (all three of them). Maybe you should start /r/RandomActsofCondescension to find an appropriate outlet for your superiority complex.
/r/RedPillWomen26/04/16 09:47 PM
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Ah right, I can definitely see why you would wonder about that. First, I think LaVey would actually not consider the young girls who try the tricks you mention to be using the Law of the Forbidden, because what they are doing is disingenuously and transparently intentional, and he explicitly makes clear that it needs to seem convincingly unintentional in order to truly feel forbidden. That said, I would advise young women to exercise skepticism when reading the book and that includes thinking tw…
/r/RedPillWomen26/04/16 09:23 PM
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OK, re-reading our exchange I may have read an antagonism into your comments that wasn't there. If you're not trying to attack Whisper and anyone who agrees with Whisper, then I retract my accusation of paranoia and intellectual stagnation. By all means let's get back to normal discussion. :) You didn't clarify what you meant by this: superficial emotional labor crap If you clue me in to what you're referring to, I'd be happy to answer you regarding whether I think intelligent men can see throug…
/r/RedPillWomen26/04/16 07:09 PM
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This is hilarious. :) My recommendation of LaVey's book had nothing whatsoever to do with Whisper. Until two days ago, I had no idea who Whisper was. I just found my copy of The Satanic Witch and skimmed through it to find out what you are on about, and it is true that there is 1 page that is reminiscent of Whisper's message. Most of the book, however - as you know - consists of advice on how to be feminine and charm men without ever actually going to bed with them. Which is what the OP inquired…
/r/RedPillWomen26/04/16 06:26 PM
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Boy, such animosity for Whisper in this sub. Guess he's really hitting a nerve, huh?
/r/RedPillWomen26/04/16 06:02 PM
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I see how it aligns very well with Whisper's message (hell, I almost think he plagiarized it at this point). Huh, what makes you say that? I didn't even have Whisper's message in mind when recommending the book. I'm not sure what you mean by "superficial emotional labor crap". Could you be more specific?
/r/RedPillWomen26/04/16 05:43 PM
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Great field report! Thanks for sharing, and congratulations on landing your husband. :) I'm curious to hear more about the initial dating phase with your husband. How did you progress from meeting to exclusivity and sex?
/r/RedPillWomen26/04/16 03:59 PM
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I'm afraid I had completely forgotten about the rituals until you mentioned them, so I guess that answers your question! :) I've just found the mundane stuff really useful. For example, he points out how men and women have wildly different ideas about what clothes look good on a woman. I confirmed this so many times that at some point I completely stopped considering the input of other women when deciding what to wear/buy and even stopped considering my own opinion as final, because I don't want…
/r/RedPillWomen26/04/16 03:10 PM
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To be clear, I don't identify as a satanist (nor have any of my partners done so)! I read The Satanic Witch because when I was young I read all sorts of books to widen my horizons. That one turned out to have more of an impact on my life than I expected. :)
/r/RedPillWomen26/04/16 02:20 PM
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I think /u/Whisper is producing stellar content that does indeed serve women's interests and that we as a sub should be appreciative of his contributions. I made a lengthy comment below explaining how my own life experience conforms with his advice in this post. However, it seems to me that Whisper's advice is mostly applicable to the subset of women who (1) seek to land a man with a lot of alpha traits and (2) have the good judgment to resist the advances of men whom they do not stand a chance …
/r/RedPillWomen26/04/16 01:37 PM
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Thank you for this excellent follow-up to your Passion post which was also excellent! As a woman, I agree completely with all six points. I've had three relationships and this is how they went: First guy: I was 16, he was 18, we started dating almost immediately after I met him and dated for a month during we had about eight heavy makeout sessions. I held off on sex because I was a virgin (he was not), and I did not want to have sex before I was so comfortable that my passion was overriding my n…
/r/RedPillWomen26/04/16 11:22 AM
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I think that's a perfectly fair question. How about losing the passive-aggressiveness and just being straightforward though? :) I believe this subreddit is trying to cultivate a culture of giving it to each other straight, and to that end we might as well just be frank with each other from the get-go rather than framing a critical query as an innocent question couched in congratulations, as you did. I'm glad you've now re-framed your query in the spirit it is actually intended. And as mentioned,…
/r/RedPillWomen26/04/16 09:57 AM
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Yeah, seriously. :) Note that I took care to provide a disclaimer up front: It's not a perfect book because it's got some excruciatingly silly stuff in it I also included a lengthy passage from the book so people can get a sense of whether they would be able to look past the silliness and get something out of it. I'd be happy to recommend a more perfect book, but I am not familiar with another book that expresses the same lessons in a better way. This book was helpful to me as I struggled to com…
/r/RedPillWomen26/04/16 07:47 AM
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Thank you for that reply! I don't mind admitting that it's nice with some reassurance. My partner and I do not have children, so as I age I will be relying on his willingness to keep me around solely for the pleasure of my company. I'm actually optimistic, because after almost a decade together we still love and crave each other's company and often lie in bed talking and laughing for hours. But neither he nor I can know what will happen to his attraction to me as I age. If his sexual excitement …
/r/RedPillWomen25/04/16 08:11 PM
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What's up with the empty accounts plaguing this subreddit? You're the second person who's replying to my comments from a blank account. Why are you deleting all your comments? To answer your question, I've been with my partner for close to a decade.
/r/RedPillWomen25/04/16 05:21 PM
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I can recommend reading The Satanic Witch by Anton Szandor LaVey. First published in 1970, it is a guide on how to use your feminine wiles to wield power over men, i.e. how to become so attractive that men will desire you and want to do things for you (including, but definitely not limited to, committing to you and providing for you). It's not a perfect book because it's got some excruciatingly silly stuff in it (for instance, I wouldn't recommend actually wearing your menstrual blood in a pouch…
/r/RedPillWomen25/04/16 08:32 AM
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I am not inclined to disagree with the generalization. I was simply wondering if you were allowing for the possibility of exceptions. Thanks for replying.
/r/TheRedPill25/04/16 07:49 AM
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I'd be interested in hearing from men too.
/r/RedPillWomen24/04/16 07:17 PM
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Nah, at least we can agree that we're not going to get anywhere.
/r/MarriedRedPill24/04/16 05:40 PM
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Sure! As I recall, there weren't many responses that I felt were truly useful. Some talked about partners who had yet to reach middle age. Some sounded BP to the point where I didn't trust they were being honest when they claimed to be just as attracted as ever. Some talked about the strength of the relationship and sidestepped the specific issue of sexual attraction. And many conflated aging with gaining weight / the woman letting herself go. Useful comments include: I'm 53, wife's 54 and it st…
/r/RedPillWomen24/04/16 05:28 PM
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Good to know, thanks for the heads up!
/r/RedPillWomen24/04/16 05:17 PM
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I appreciate that. But even the best self and relationship care cannot prevent a man losing sexual interest to the extent that he's wired to be turned on by fertility. And that's an empirical question which cannot be theorized about, only determined by the data. Which is why I'd love to hear about some RP people's experiences, if there is anyone in this sub who's old enough to have gone through it. :)
/r/RedPillWomen24/04/16 04:18 PM
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Thank you for the link. Skimming the thread, it looks like there are few actual experiences being shared though. That's what I'm interested in - first-hand experiential accounts from thriving relationships who've gone through the woman's middle age.
/r/RedPillWomen24/04/16 02:12 PM
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I did try to search, but I couldn't seem to find anything. Would you mind directing me to how I can find it?
/r/RedPillWomen24/04/16 01:42 PM
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I never asked you to change your policy. I only asked you to explain it. You know what people generally do when they have a good rationale for doing something and someone asks them what it is? They simply explain it. They don't get defensive and gratuitously bang on about how they can do whatever they want.
/r/MarriedRedPill24/04/16 01:40 PM
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You are relying on speculation about Whisper's motives rather than explaining the harm done by him. I don't care what his gender or his motives are; I care about the quality of his arguments, and they seem convincing to me. Does TRP allow women to come on their sub and extol the virtues of monogamy and marriage? False analogy. Allow me to repeat myself: I don't agree with the analogy, because it sounds to me like /u/Whisper was arguing that the RPW recommendation to make the man hold out for sex…
/r/MarriedRedPill24/04/16 12:57 PM
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I'm not asking you to change for my sake. I'm inquiring about the rationale for running the subreddit the way you do. If you were to give a good argument, I might change my mind. The fact that you're choosing not to argue your case (for instance by explaining why /u/Whisper was so destructive that he needed to be banned) and instead gratuitously asserting your right to run your subreddit however you like makes me inclined to suspect that you don't have a good argument for relying on censorship r…
/r/MarriedRedPill24/04/16 12:03 PM
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I see that the thread has been downvoted. Is the question not appropriate for this subreddit?
/r/RedPillWomen24/04/16 11:04 AM
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You don't go on /r/Christianity and extol the virtues of the devil, LOL. I don't agree with the analogy, because it sounds to me like /u/Whisper was arguing that the RPW recommendation to make the man hold out for sex was not necessarily in line with a woman's best interests in modern times. So he wasn't representing TRP interests; he was representing women's interests. Whether Whisper is a man or not is irrelevant; a good argument is a good argument regardless of who makes it. It sounds to me l…
/r/MarriedRedPill24/04/16 08:38 AM
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Thank you for elaborating. But why censor dissenting opinions? That's the part I don't understand. Why not let people read the arguments of /u/Whisper and decide for themselves? In my experience downvotes and good counter-arguments can handle dissent just fine, and indeed having some dissenters around to act as a foil for one's good arguments can sharpen everyone's understanding. A good example of a contentious subreddit that practices minimal censorship and yet manages to keep dissent at a mana…
/r/MarriedRedPill23/04/16 10:09 PM
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Are you truly unable to think of a single example? I'm not being polemical; I'm trying to figure out if you're serious or not. A few examples off the top of my head would be Elizabeth Holmes (founder and CEO of Theranos) and Margaret Thatcher. Edit: I'm reading up on the last year's worth of news about Theranos only just now. Seems like that might not be much of a success after all. But Thatcher surely?
/r/TheRedPill23/04/16 09:49 PM
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That sounds consistent with his own explanation. May I ask what the problem was, exactly? Are dissenting opinions not allowed at RPW?
/r/MarriedRedPill23/04/16 09:29 PM
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... And I'm up to speed. Thank you!
/r/MarriedRedPill23/04/16 07:00 PM
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Haha, OK then! What about redpillwives (which I understand is more female-active?); are they receptive?
/r/MarriedRedPill23/04/16 06:56 PM
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FWIW as a woman I think your message is spot-on. Jibes very well with my own experience. Banning you for preaching it is ridiculous. Do I understand correctly that the new mod team at RPW is more receptive?
/r/MarriedRedPill23/04/16 06:29 PM
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Excellent post, thank you. Looking forward to the follow-up.
/r/RedPillWomen23/04/16 05:36 PM
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Thank you!
/r/MarriedRedPill23/04/16 05:33 PM
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I am amazed that /u/Whisper caused all this shit storm with his quality post. They really don't want to face reality or debate any emotion laden topic that might disturb the mound. Which post was that? I checked out his submission history but couldn't figure out which post you might be referring to.
/r/MarriedRedPill23/04/16 05:22 PM
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That's why I lurk here. :)
/r/MarriedRedPill22/01/16 12:39 PM
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I found it a bit odd as well that she didn't just come over, she just waved and said something I couldn't hear from that distance. If I put myself in her place, I think I would be wanting some sort of action from you, some form of acknowledgment that I had arrived, waved at you, but refrained from coming over. This could take many forms - ranging from validating me and our connection by coming over to say hi to me, to giving me dread by leaving the establishment without saying a word, leaving me…
/r/MarriedRedPill20/01/16 11:54 AM
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Wow! Thank you for that analysis. I appreciate the insights (and the attention of course). I agree with almost everything in your comment including (to my own annoyance) the "good victim" bit and including (to my own sadness) the bit about how women don't tend to contribute learning for its own sake with nothing else in it for us. The only thing in your comment that I would take issue with is the notion that you are coming across as grade A assholes. I'm not sure who you think might perceive it …
/r/MarriedRedPill20/01/16 12:58 AM
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Thank you for your observations which I respect and agree with. I do not normally point out that I am a woman when I post online. I was trying to play by the sub's rules by commenting only insofar as I could relate to the woman in the OP's scenario. I could have added my contribution without revealing my gender, as I normally would have done in any other sub, but in this particular sub I feel it would be disingenuous or disrespectful?
/r/MarriedRedPill19/01/16 08:51 PM
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I won't comment again except to finish replying to the questions I am now being asked. I have lurked at /r/RedPillWomen very briefly and you are right that it was not to my liking. The signal/noise ratio was too low. My SO is not doing anything different that I don't like. I wrote another comment explaining why I lurk. I've actually known about redpill-type theory for more than a decade; there used to be a "love doctor" at AskMen.com whose advice was very redpill-ish, and I read The Game by Neil…
/r/MarriedRedPill19/01/16 08:37 PM
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Apologies for being dense, but could you spell out your thoughts on my gender? Surely you don't think I'm a man?
/r/MarriedRedPill19/01/16 08:22 PM
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Maybe the FAQ/Guidelines should be updated to reflect that women are not welcome? I would not have commented if that had been the policy.
/r/MarriedRedPill19/01/16 08:16 PM
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I'm in a LTR with a naturally pretty alpha guy. It's rocky all right, but it's been rocky almost since the very beginning (2008) and the passion is still red hot so in that sense I guess it's a stable relationship nonetheless. (Neither of us wants children.) I lurk here because it helps me keep perspective and motivates me to try to be as low-maintenance and giving as I can. If you guys were to analyze our relationship from the outside, my tentative guess would be that one thing you would say is…
/r/MarriedRedPill19/01/16 08:10 PM
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Thanks for your comment. I'm thinking maybe I should stick to lurking if a female perspective will always draw ire. The only thing relevant to me is to ask why you are here. Are you asking why I commented now, or why I lurk here in general?
/r/MarriedRedPill19/01/16 07:45 PM
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Didn't mean to cause annoyance. Was trying to do right by the sub.
/r/MarriedRedPill19/01/16 07:13 PM
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If you didn't point out you were a woman, I wouldn't have known. The fact that you're a woman made no difference to your comment. your comment could've stood on its own merit, instead you devalued it by adding a contingency. Thank you for the feedback. I don't normally point out I'm a woman everywhere I go; I just wanted to try to follow the guidelines for women posters. I really enjoy lurking here and don't want to commit any faux pas. Oh, and I'm with you that we wouldn't necessarily have to s…
/r/MarriedRedPill19/01/16 07:07 PM
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Woman here, taking the liberty to comment because of this from the FAQ/Guidelines: Do: Feel free to provide the female perspective. "I think your wife feels....because I/my sister/a friend... had the same experience. I would like to offer my perspective regarding this part: focus on my friend On Saturday I went out with a friend of mine, we went to a bar I like and wanted to show him, though I knew my girlfriend might end up there with a friend. So of course she did end up there which I think wa…
/r/MarriedRedPill19/01/16 06:27 PM
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