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Activism/SupportThisIsTheEnd6/r/MensRights10/05/21 12:04 PM
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Social IssuesThisIsTheEnd6/r/MensRights15/05/21 06:25 PM
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Social IssuesThisIsTheEnd6/r/MensRights23/07/21 02:39 PM
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DiscriminationThisIsTheEnd6/r/MensRights10/05/21 05:13 PM
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-4

MensRights doesn't believe in banning anyone. Except me because I was critical of the misogyny. I don't think its a matter of mods not caring. They cared enough to ban me. I think it's a matter of mods agreeing with the misogynistic content and banning those that oppose it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/21 10:22 PM
9

Feminists will just assume all the unproven cases are true without evidence just because they hate men. Only a hate group would make assumptions about the vast majority of rape cases simply based on gender. Here's a perfect example of hatred for a gender making people assume guilt without evidence. This hate has to stop
/r/MensRights07/08/21 10:50 AM
-28

Is it too difficult to pretend this group isn't anti-women to avoid getting shut down?
/r/MensRights06/08/21 06:42 PM
-4

So you think every person who sleeps with an intoxicated person should be punished the exact same as someone raping an unconscious person. You actually believe that And you've tripled down on that stance. This is embarrassing for you. The whole world would be in jail.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 02:50 PM
-3

Oh. Wow. You really don't see a difference between those two things. That's.... terrifying.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 02:45 PM
1

Having sex with drunk people and unconscious people are very very very different. You understand that right?
/r/MensRights06/08/21 02:15 PM
0

If you think its okay to finger unconscious women, you should be on a watch list. If you don't think it's okay, we agree that Brock turner should have been punished for sex crimes.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 02:09 PM
0

You're defending a man that was found fingering an unconscious woman. The police found her unconscious, the hospital couldn't wake her up, and you're saying it's okay to do things to her unconscious body sexually? Wow...
/r/MensRights06/08/21 01:55 PM
1

I don't think you know what gas lighting is. But boy do you like using it.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 01:51 PM
0

Lol. Who am I abusing by suggesting different words?
/r/MensRights06/08/21 01:46 PM
-2

He was conscious enough to run away when someone caught him. She just laid there barely able to speak according to the two bikers that found them. So no...it's not the same. At all. Trying to say it is....is weird.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 01:45 PM
-4

So you believe the woman being fingered behind a dumpster nearly unconscious should face consequences too?
/r/MensRights06/08/21 01:42 PM
-1

OP openly said double standards are all women have. I'm requesting dog whistling so it won't look as bad as this. This looks like posts generalizing women are upvoted. Good way to get shut down. That's why I suggest dog whistling.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 01:41 PM
-36

Actually, my comment is agreeing with OP. That a 50/50 team won't be successful.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 01:27 PM
0

I've heard is a cesspool of misogyny. I clicked the link someone posted and within 5 seconds found this Direct quote 'Whatever you do, when you get a "normal" (which is just synonymous with vanilla) girl, remember to chill and just train the bitch to get her to give you the type of sex you want.' Conclusion, it's a cesspool of misogyny.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 12:28 PM
-11

Right. But OP said double standards are 'all women have' and I'm saying he should say feminists. It sounds less offensive and we all know what is meant.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 12:03 PM
-1

Right. But no one accused him of rape and people shouldn't say he was accused of rape because it's not true. Don't say things that aren't true about people is basic decency.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 12:01 PM
-2

Izzu was accused of harassment. Not rape. And he apologized for it once he found out what he was accused of. People have been pushing this idea that he was accused of rape to further an agenda and Izu and his family are sick about it. Because he wasn't. And the people saying so are sullying the name of a man that has suffered enough just to illicit an emotional response. Izzu took a few jokes too far and made poor judgement when contacting a girl until she had to block him. Here's the post outli…
/r/MensRights06/08/21 11:44 AM
-28

Women have less money and need more care for longer periods of time. This is problematic obviously because it's expensive to be cared for for extended periods of time. I don't see any reason to be offended by that. It's a challenge women face. It doesn't need to immediately be compared to challenges men face and dismissed.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 11:00 AM
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Someone deliberately becoming intoxicated, knowing full well they are putting themselves at risk, should not absolve them of the consequences of their behaviour. So when a girl got drunk and Brock turner fingered her behind a dumpster when she was nearly unconscious..you feel she's to blame as well in that scenario? I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 10:56 AM
-7

I imagine most women that body shame men over height aren't the same ones that complain about body shaming women. Few humans are stupid enough to not see the hypocrisy there. But there are millions of women body shaming men and millions of women that complain about body shaming. I just don't think there's that much overlap of women doing both.
/r/MensRights06/08/21 10:36 AM
-2

They take harmless posts like this one and make them look bad.
/r/MensRights05/08/21 10:55 AM
-5

Here's a great example of that subreddit. the attempts to say it was harmless are sad. It was toxic. Obviously
/r/MensRights04/08/21 10:48 PM
-9

Then do that. But do that without every other post talking about how 'used up' women are by their 30s and how modern women suck.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 10:43 PM
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People are literally saying that men need to act evil to show women that they should be afraid And people are actually upvoting it. This subreddit won't make it to September if this problem isn't fixed quickly. Direct quote - > Wake up and stop cow towing to female emotion, we’re dealing w a brand of female that is incapable of celebrating “honor” their world view is rooted in the idea that men are evil monsters...we need to start being the evil monsters and show them why they need to fear the f…
/r/MensRights04/08/21 05:32 PM
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Again. There's no reason to make stuff up. I'm sure you're about to say I must have deleted all those comments because now you can't find them. My history is public.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 05:15 PM
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I have never and will never say I am against mens rights. Human rights are integral in society. Making things up to prove a point says more about you than about me.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 05:05 PM
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I don't hate anyone. I hate making generalizations about men and women. Don't you hate that too?
/r/MensRights04/08/21 04:24 PM
1

Did she say that's what most American women are like? Because that's pretty hateful.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 04:22 PM
-2

I'm glad we agree that it's not okay to say things like that. That's a positive step.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 03:32 PM
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Saying we shouldn't make daragotory remarks about most women being sluts makes me anti men and anti boy? Really?
/r/MensRights04/08/21 03:28 PM
3

Sure does. I hope they ban it.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 03:22 PM
2

Society has biases. No doubt. But the enemy is society. Not women. You should make that clear.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 03:16 PM
-12

People are literally upvoting 'we need to start being evil monsters to show women they need to fear us' This sub is doomed.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 02:56 PM
-19

I don't want this place shut down. I'm specifically trying to stop that. Excusing generalizations about men and women as 'jokes' will only get this place shut down faster. Don't do it.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 02:12 PM
-8

Probably are. But that doesn't make it okay.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 02:03 PM
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He didn't call women nazis. He said most women are worse than nazis.... which is much worse.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 01:29 PM
-38

The people desperately trying to claim MGTOW wasn't hateful are either misleading people on purpose, or very naive. MGTOW was a place for angry men to be mad at women. What in this post is about going your own way? 100 upvotes on just obvious woman hating.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 01:21 PM
-2

I don't think you know what gas lighting is. Saying we shouldn't compare most women to nazis is not gas lighting. It's good advice. If you think comparing most women to nazis is how you discuss mens issues, you are part of the problem.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 12:35 PM
-3

This community being shut down hurts men. I'd think you agree. I want to prevent that. Do you?
/r/MensRights04/08/21 12:25 PM
1

A post saying most women are worse than nazis has 100 upvotes. This community will be banned within a month if people can't get the hate under control Read the last sentence
/r/MensRights04/08/21 12:20 PM
0

Right. But being careful with their diction. Things like 'you're making me have disdain for the entire female species' is specifically saying you aren't able to differentiate one woman from another. And if people feel this subreddit is creating disdain for all the female species...it will be shut down.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 12:02 PM
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The opening said it was a message to everyone, especially women. this is a message to whoever will listen. Especially Women. It said nothing about being to only certain women that act a certain way. And the 'we didn't mean all women' is the same logic feminists Use when they say men are trash. Maybe we can be better than that.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 11:44 AM
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No one is against women here.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 11:08 AM
-12

Worst of all ladies, you CANNOT date a good man. You hate, use and abuse good men without remorse or care for their feelings. You say you want a good man, but continuously choose the men who treat you horribly, have their children and blame ALL Men for you bad life choices. You're really making me legitimately have disdain for the Female species. Great job, you've all Won. Wooo! Hope it feels great to be horrible human beings. The Nazis had more empathy then most of you Women today. This the stu…
/r/MensRights04/08/21 10:56 AM
-33

MGTOW and MGTOW2 were filled with hateful people that just wanted to attack women. Mens rights isn't like that at all so this sub will not be banned.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 01:26 AM
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All the comments are saying how true it is and how women aren't usually this self aware.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 12:04 AM
1

Trans people should not be excluded from mens rights groups as their issues overlap quite a bit. Trans men are men and anyone excluding them is a bigot. Which is why I hate TERFs.
/r/MensRights04/08/21 12:01 AM
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Click the link I posted. Read the comments yourself
/r/MensRights03/08/21 11:56 PM
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Calling people out when they are being anti women will be what keeps this group from being banned just like MGTOW.
/r/MensRights03/08/21 10:56 PM
4

Yes. It is wrong. And the comments were poison.
/r/MensRights03/08/21 10:54 PM
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I'm not a woman. I'm a man who wants mens issues to be more widely discussed. Because as a man, mens issues affect me greatly. Im not the queen of mens rights. I'm someone that wants positive discussion about male issues.
/r/MensRights03/08/21 10:53 PM
-15

I don't want mens rights associated with MGTOW so that people actually respect mens rights. But I suppose it's easier to just bury your head in the sand and ignore any proof put in front of you.
/r/MensRights03/08/21 10:42 PM
-26

I'm against being hateful. If you think the comments in the link I posted are mens rights comments, you have issues. Those are hateful comments. Nothing to do with mens rights.
/r/MensRights03/08/21 10:38 PM
-47

MGTOW is not mens rights. Mens rights is about equality. MGTOW is about complaining about women and saying way too many hateful things. That subreddit should be banned along with MGTOW2, FDS, and TwoX. Proof how toxic it became
/r/MensRights03/08/21 09:07 PM
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Selective abortion should be a crime and the world needs balance between the genders. One gender being a significantly larger portion in any population base would lead to a lot of problems.
/r/MensRights03/08/21 01:56 PM
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Good. Thats what the VAST majority of citizens want. It's the only thing MRAs and feminists agree on.
/r/MensRights03/08/21 12:56 PM
-4

Isn't it a bit hypocritical to tout 'innocent until proven guilty' only to say this person is guilty when it hasn't been proven in court? That's the kind of hypocritical BS I expect from feminists but not MRAs.
/r/MensRights03/08/21 11:22 AM
8

What's the real truth? Who does shoplift more?
/r/MensRights03/08/21 11:07 AM
1

I don't believe the patriarchy exists.
/r/MensRights02/08/21 02:44 PM
2

The point is if the 'average woman' shows her goods on only fans. She shouldn't expect to make much money. If any. And OP suggests they can make a living at an hour a week and that is obviously not true.
/r/MensRights02/08/21 11:28 AM
-6

Why are you so adamant that people on only fans make money? It's depressing when men are giving these people so much. I was happy to find out the average account makes very little.
/r/MensRights02/08/21 11:03 AM
1

You're deep Into the conspiracy theories. I posted a LINK to show you.
/r/MensRights02/08/21 10:59 AM
-2

I posted the link to the comment. You seem very unable to understand basic instructions.
/r/MensRights02/08/21 10:57 AM
-13

Most people that play sports and Most people on only fans aren't making any money off of it. Thats a fact.
/r/MensRights02/08/21 10:50 AM
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"Women have it so much harder In life" ...yeah you can make a living by 1h/week and showing people bikini pics The average only fans account makes less than 150 dollars a month. Trying to say women have it easier because only fans exists is naive and simply not true. It would be like saying men have it easier because professional athletes make so much money.
/r/MensRights02/08/21 10:44 AM
0

It's the comment I posted. Read it. It's sexist AF. But you defend sexism exactly like feminists.
/r/MensRights01/08/21 11:17 PM
0

Lol. You can't go 5 minutes without seeing a 'women bad' comment. Check this out. Wow
/r/MensRights01/08/21 11:00 PM
-1

Everyone thinks men should have rights. But most people think the mens rights movement is just woman hating in disguise.
/r/MensRights01/08/21 10:43 PM
1

If you think everyone that is critical of the mens rights movement or doesn't support the mens rights movement is a fool, you must think 99.99 percent of the population is foolish.
/r/MensRights01/08/21 08:23 PM
-1

I can think feminism and mens rights are both flawed. You don't have to choose one or the other.
/r/MensRights01/08/21 08:08 PM
1

That was a post being critical of feminism.
/r/MensRights01/08/21 07:50 PM
1

My understanding of feminism is that it sucks. Do you challenge that notion? Really?
/r/MensRights01/08/21 03:23 PM
-1

Agreed. An interesting story.
/r/MensRights01/08/21 12:31 PM
-6

I guess real conversation is too hard for you . That's fine. Not everyone is capable.
/r/MensRights01/08/21 12:07 PM
-5

No one said he was guilty.
/r/MensRights01/08/21 12:06 PM
-26

There's no laws saying it's illegal to believe someone when they tell their story. You can choose to believe him or the women. These people made their choice as they are entitled to do. You've clearly chosen to believe him. That's your right.
/r/MensRights01/08/21 12:00 PM
-27

Who refused him due process? Does the constitution offer people immunity from pink masks?
/r/MensRights01/08/21 11:29 AM
-49

If you go to the police station and say this redditor is a child abuser not anonymously, And then 6 people that know this redditor well ALSO go file a real report. That would be the same... But you won't. Because obviously filing a false police report is a crime and you're obviously lying. So these aren't the same thing. You must realize that.
/r/MensRights01/08/21 11:16 AM
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But there's a chance they are 'coming for him' because he is guilty. Which would imply no one will come for me. Because I have never sexually assaulted anyone.
/r/MensRights01/08/21 11:08 AM
-16

This is clearly a troll account and he's clearly done exactly what he wanted. Riled everyone up and made everyone upset. He's probably laughing hysterically at all the posts trying to ban him.
/r/MensRights01/08/21 10:52 AM
-47

Pink masks suggest that you support women that were sexually assaulted. If you feel supporting women that were sexually assaulted is an attack on you...you have a very guilty conscience.
/r/MensRights01/08/21 10:45 AM
-3

It days women are ruined. Thats not that far from women are the worst. But I guess defend the hate like feminists do.
/r/MensRights31/07/21 04:38 PM
-1

So he said 'women have been ruined' and you're saying he didn't mean women have been ruined? And you won't even agree with him because you know it's sexist to say that.
/r/MensRights31/07/21 01:21 PM
-5

He said women are ruined. Do you agree?
/r/MensRights31/07/21 12:43 PM
-8

Has he been arrested and branded a misogynist rapist? Because that's what the post claimed.
/r/MensRights31/07/21 12:38 PM
-23

So you feel that women today are 'ruined'? And that its not sexism to say that?
/r/MensRights31/07/21 12:37 PM
-26

He openly said women used to be worth fighting for and now they aren't because they'll treat you like shit. Nothing about laws or the justice system. Just about how women aren't good anymore. If feminists were saying these things about men, everyone would call it misandry and hate speech.
/r/MensRights31/07/21 12:27 PM
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Alright. I can try and post some misogynistic crap about how women aren't good anymore. Maybe you'll think I'm a good person then. I'll at least have more upvotes.
/r/MensRights31/07/21 11:55 AM
-93

So we are just openly upvoting posts that say women are the worst? Can we not pretend this isn't a hate movement that's as bad as feminism?
/r/MensRights31/07/21 11:49 AM
0

So the good people are the ones saying modern women are ruined... and im a bad person for wishing people weren't making broad generalizations about women... Wow.
/r/MensRights31/07/21 11:46 AM
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I want men to see real changes. Not get dismissed as a hate movement. I have far more empathy for mens issues than those proving the movement to be about lack of access to women instead if real issues men face.
/r/MensRights31/07/21 11:42 AM
-2

Mens voices need to be amplified. Not silenced. Just needs to be mens voices fighting for equality and support. Not complaining about women.
/r/MensRights31/07/21 11:38 AM
-30

Wow. She sucks. But how is that relevant here? Seems when you approached her she responded positively enough to be your girlfriend. She didn't get you branded a misogynistic rapist for speaking to her.
/r/MensRights31/07/21 11:25 AM
-19

Mens issues are important. But 'women won't date me' isn't a mens issues. The vast majority of men have been in many relationships and continue to do so.
/r/MensRights31/07/21 11:24 AM
0

It's become very clear that I don't get to dictate what's discussed. As I want to talk about equality in the law, mens rights, and Injustice. Not how women aren't good anymore. But 2XC is not about men's rights. So I don't know why I would go there.
/r/MensRights31/07/21 11:23 AM
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Do you have a single example of an awkward attempt at flirting getting someone branded a misogynist rapist? Or are we just openly trying to scare men away from women with lies at this point? The exaggeration on this thread is unreal. Telling people to fear women is not a mens rights issue. Take it to MGTOW where you can complain about women without making a movement for equality look bad.
/r/MensRights31/07/21 11:00 AM
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In summary. You think women are spoiled, promiscuou, they hate men, will take advantage of men through dating and only fans, will put them down like dogs if they don't find them attractive, and aren't worth dating because feminism made them bad. Does this sound right? You could have just summarized and said you hate women because they won't date you. A dude in Ohio recently was arrested for buying a gun and planning a shooting for the exact same reasons.
/r/MensRights31/07/21 10:57 AM
-5

Nothing modern women wouldn't like more than the re-opening of concentration camps and exterminating all men. Nothing but modern day Nazi's, all of them. Are people seriously upvoting a comment saying all women are nazis that want to exterminate men? Wtf? Mens rights will always be considered a joke until these hateful voices get banned, not upvoted.
/r/MensRights31/07/21 10:36 AM
-5

"Anyone who engages in sexual intercourse with someone who is under the influence of drugs or alcohol, unconscious, oblivious to their surroundings or not able to voice dissent can be charged with the crime of rape." This is obviously a purposefully flawed definition of rape in an attempt to create misleading statistics. This is bad science. They used the CDC report from 2010 and said it suggests that men and women are raped in equal numbers. That EXACT same CDC report says "Nearly 1 in 5 women …
/r/MensRights31/07/21 02:00 AM
0

You don't think saying women are 'ruined' is hateful? Are you serious?
/r/MensRights30/07/21 08:48 PM
-2

You don't have to. I'm just telling you why this movement gets dismissed as woman hating instead of the very real problems men face.
/r/MensRights30/07/21 08:47 PM
-2

Feminism sucks. That doesn't mean mens rights should suck too. Mens rights should be better than feminism. Saying 'but feminists do it' is not a good excuse. It's just trying to be more like feminists.
/r/MensRights30/07/21 07:29 PM
-7

Lol. Half of the comments are whining about women and you just pretend you don't see them eh? You're either blind or dumb. But here's one for good measure. Typical woman hating
/r/MensRights30/07/21 06:26 PM
-18

I wasn't complaining about advocacy. I was complaining that no one gives a damn about advocacy. People just want to whine about women and feminism.
/r/MensRights30/07/21 04:39 PM
-15

You think this is advocating? Are you serious? Advocating makes a difference. Trying to convince the world that it wasn't as hard for women as people thought has NOTHING to do with advocating.
/r/MensRights30/07/21 04:34 PM
-47

Whining that women weren't as oppressed as people think 100 years ago doesn't do much to further mens rights or raise the quality of life of men anywhere. It just comes off as a desperate attempt to downplay any historical abuses.
/r/MensRights30/07/21 03:34 PM
-8

Actual non profit advocacy to help men isn't very popular here. Try posting something bad about women or feminism. People care far more about that than actually helping men.
/r/MensRights30/07/21 11:00 AM
-7

Yet we’re told time and again fathers are abusers and monsters Who is telling you this? Because that's not okay.
/r/MensRights30/07/21 10:47 AM
-1

OP didn't say anything about men being predators. What are you talking about?
/r/MensRights29/07/21 04:11 PM
-2

I don't understand your point. I think it would be awesome if women were asking how they could help prevent some of these men being raped and how to make men feel more safe from rape.
/r/MensRights29/07/21 01:32 PM
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I think the world would be a better place if women were more understanding and willing to help regarding mens issues. So I have no problem with posts suggesting men are trying to be more understanding and willing to help with female issues. No one is forcing you to help with female issues. Some men just choose to try and help and that's fine for them.
/r/MensRights29/07/21 01:03 PM
-22

I don't believe most women's stories. Openly Admitting you're biased doesn't do much to inspire confidence in your opinion.
/r/MensRights28/07/21 12:57 PM
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You want me to prove that men being made to feel as though people don't believe them stops them from reporting forced penetration? Are you serious. That's obviously why men don't come forward. They think people will say they liked it and that men want sex so it's not rape. That's a huge issue in mens rights. Countless men have told stories on this subreddit and you're just reiterating their fears. You should be embarrassed to say this stuff.
/r/MensRights28/07/21 12:54 PM
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That will deter many men from coming forward as men don't want to feel that they are being accused of lying. You're fine with millions of women getting away with rape since men won't come forward all so you can interrogate women coming forward? You'd let female rapists walk, just so you can treat rape victims more harshly? Wow...
/r/MensRights28/07/21 12:44 PM
-2

So you believe that men coming forward with accusations of domestic violence, forced penetration, and assault should be interrogated as though they could be lying? Yes or no? You must be saying yes... because you feel women should be interrogated. You're no mens rights activist. If you want me who were just forced to penetrate to be re victimized like that.
/r/MensRights28/07/21 12:30 PM
-1

A trial If there's enough evidence to bring it to trial. If not, you'll never know. But treating the accuser as a liar doesn't help determine it either.
/r/MensRights28/07/21 12:27 PM
-6

You can determine if it's true or false. Thats the whole point of of justice system. Not the police officer filing a report.
/r/MensRights28/07/21 12:13 PM
-4

You can get details without interrogating someone. But it seems you want men coming forward with sexual assault allegations to be treated like they are lying. Hard tk argue you support men if that's what you want.
/r/MensRights28/07/21 12:12 PM
-2

You get specifics. Without asking questions that make a victim feel you are trying to blame them. 'Do you think anyone overheard the incident' and 'why didnt you scream for help' are two different questions. One better than the other. Both gathering info.
/r/MensRights28/07/21 11:51 AM
-7

Sure could. But people don't want to be questioned when they are victims of a crime. They are already terrified people won't believe them. Questioning them right off the bat will do nothing but deter people from coming forward allowing real victims to suffer in silence. That's not a win for anyone.
/r/MensRights28/07/21 11:46 AM
-2

Right. But the 'believe all women' means not trying to poke holes in their story, force them to take a lie detector test, ask them what they were wearing or if they had been flirting with the rapist. Or why she didn't fight back more. These are all things that happen and shouldn't. Which is why you believe all women while you are getting their story. From there, an investigation can start. I don't know when people got the idea that treating women with dignity became anti men...
/r/MensRights28/07/21 11:36 AM
-7

Yeah. It's happened. But the fact that you went back a decade to find an example would be a good indicator that it isn't common. And certainly not happening every time a rape is reported.
/r/MensRights28/07/21 11:28 AM
-7

So when a man claims his wife is hitting him, the burden of proof is on him and he shouldn't be believed? That doesn't seem like EXACTLY how men are treated already? And it's terrible.
/r/MensRights28/07/21 10:59 AM
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Treating someone as though you believe them and fully believing them are 2 different things. Treating people with respect and dignity and not suggesting they are lying when they report a crime is common sense. No one, man or woman, shoukd be made to feel they aren't believed when reporting a crime.
/r/MensRights28/07/21 10:58 AM
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Not true. You can treat someone as though you believe them without immediately condemning the accused.
/r/MensRights28/07/21 10:48 AM
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That's not true. There's very rarely an arrest made when a rape is reported. If men were being arrested every time, millions more men would be arrested each year. I understand that you THINK the world works that way because you've been told that...but it isn't true. Police don't arrest people without some evidence and you don't make it to trial without a good amount of evidence.
/r/MensRights28/07/21 10:47 AM
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Women and men coming forward should be believed until there is evidence that they arent telling the truth. That doesn't mean arresting the supposed assailant immediately. It means not trying to interrogate them and not treating them like they are lying when they report a crime. That's what 'believe all women' means as much as some people here think it means locking men up without evidence. Something that is very uncommon in western society. Edit: I suppose the downvotes are coming but I believe …
/r/MensRights28/07/21 10:32 AM
-6

I apologize. I should have said. Most women work a lot. Assuming they are just out shopping is sexist and unnecessary. So you don't really need to defend things like that.
/r/MensRights27/07/21 12:57 PM
-13

Combine that with this. https://www.catalyst.org/research/women-in-the-workforce-canada/ 61.4 percent of women work. 75 percent are full time. So it's actually 46 percent of women work full time. Many others working 30 to 35 hours a week. Not driving around shopping. There's no reason to be sexist.
/r/MensRights27/07/21 12:28 PM
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Sure thing. Here
/r/MensRights27/07/21 12:16 PM
6

Eating soy is anti men? Weighing 100 pounds is anti men? Being pale is anti men? This is dumb.
/r/MensRights27/07/21 12:08 PM
-4

Most women work full time jobs. The idea that they are just shopping all day is pretty sexist...
/r/MensRights27/07/21 12:07 PM
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Shitting on men for not being manly enough is anti men.
/r/MensRights27/07/21 11:53 AM
-36

'Better' is subjective. Some people prefer subreddits that have less anger.
/r/MensRights27/07/21 11:53 AM
9

Daily mail really knows how to rile people up. A handful of people tweet about a coach and you're convinced the whole world is a joke.
/r/MensRights27/07/21 09:34 AM
11

To be honest, demanding more pay or a promotion in your probationary period isn't the smartest move.
/r/MensRights26/07/21 06:48 PM
-2

So you disagree with him that men should be more aware of the struggles women go through? Because that seems like a pretty obvious statement everyone can agree with. I think women and men should both be more aware of the issues the other gender faces.
/r/MensRights26/07/21 12:19 PM
-1

Telling women it's her fault men are cheating on her because she is fat is not motivating. It's a horrible things to say to someone and I wouldn't tolerate women on female dating strategy saying its okay to cheat if your husband has a small dick or low income. Don't defend this behavior.
/r/MensRights26/07/21 11:25 AM
-4

How do you know that though? Metzen said the issue was predominantly with men and you feel he is wrong? Do you have reason to believe he is wrong? Or are you just choosing not to believe metzen because you don't like what he said?
/r/MensRights26/07/21 11:00 AM
-2

Metzen said it was a problem that was predominantly with the males. He ran the company. But you feel you are more aware than him and you know that the problem wasn't predominantly with the males? What makes you feel you understand the situation better than metzen?
/r/MensRights26/07/21 10:59 AM
-5

Kevin samuels is a joke. “Alright, you broke the first rule right there,” he said. “I don’t know what you’re talking about that a man shouldn’t cheat or whatever when you broke the first rule that men want women who are fit. You weigh more than a man at your height. True or false?” Telling women they are fat so their man can cheat on them isn't pro men. Its anti women.
/r/MensRights26/07/21 03:31 AM
-1

Metzen seems to be responding to the fact that it was disproportionately women facing sexual harassment and misconduct according to most sources. "Female employees almost universally confirmed that working for Defendants was akin to working in a frat house, which invariably involved male employees drinking and subjecting female employees to sexual harassment with no repercussion. “Cube crawls” in Defendants’ offices were common and male employees proudly came into work hungover. Similarly, male …
/r/MensRights26/07/21 03:08 AM
1

Women bad right?
/r/MensRights26/07/21 02:15 AM
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This woman is clearly a liar. But is this a post about men's rights or a post that just wants to highlight a woman being a liar for some reason?
/r/MensRights25/07/21 02:42 PM
-2

Patriarchy is a societal structure where men hold a disproportionate amount of power and influence compared to women. An example would be a society where only men can vote, inherit land, and run for office would be a patriarchy.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 10:54 AM
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Im not a feminist. Why would I be on feminist subreddits?
/r/MensRights24/07/21 10:34 AM
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Depends. If you're you're type of person that thinks it's unfair that they have to pay to support their own children, you may be the type to let a spouse drown in debt too. There's a lot of bad people out there.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 03:17 AM
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That's not true. https://www.thebalance.com/does-marriage-make-you-responsible-for-your-partner-s-debt-4588332
/r/MensRights24/07/21 03:09 AM
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He can help her all he wants. It's his choice. It's not his responsibility. It's your responsibility. They don't become his kids because of a marriage document. They are still yours and her kids. And yours and her responsibility. Their marriage didn't make them any less your kids so it didn't make them any less your responsibility. I'm not 'arguing in bad faith'. I'm telling you something you dont want to hear. Big difference there.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 03:07 AM
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It's not unfair that you have to support the child you created. That's how making children works. You bring them into the world and then you support them. You're subscribing to the ideals that when a woman marries someone, the man then immediately has to pay for her. That men are ATMs that offer stability for sex. This is the opposite of what mens rights should be pushing. He doesn't owe your wife any money for YOUR kid. So it sucks, but the system is not broken because you can't completely walk…
/r/MensRights24/07/21 03:03 AM
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Men are not ATMs. He doesn't owe her money for her or your kids just because they are in a relationship.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 02:45 AM
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They aren't his kids. He shouldn't have to pay for them. That's your responsibility. I don't think the system is broken because you can't get some idiot to pay to raise your kids.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 02:42 AM
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Are you asking why you have to pay for your kids? It's because they are your kids. I guess you think your wife's new husband should be paying for your kids?
/r/MensRights24/07/21 02:38 AM
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20 percent of your income isn't bad if that covers all the expenses for your kids. Most people lose a bigger chunk than that for their kids even when they live with them.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 02:36 AM
-11

Genders aren't toxic. Toxic femininity exists just as much as toxic masculinity. Which is not at all.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 01:09 AM
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I don't really know anything about the decision. Or the personal lives of these celebrities. So I can't speak to whether or not it was fair. But I'll trust you that you know more about their lives.
/r/MensRights24/07/21 12:34 AM
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Apparantly the judge was in business with Pitts lawyers. Thats obviously a conflict of interest and he should be removed from the case.
/r/MensRights23/07/21 11:44 PM
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Are you asking me if soldiers or incels are more likely to kill innocent people? Because I don't really know the answer to that.
/r/MensRights23/07/21 11:22 PM
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No. I think violent communities online can radicalize people into doing violent things.
/r/MensRights23/07/21 11:17 PM
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I think months on an incel website praising Elliot Rodgers is just as much a factor that led to his mental state as the army training.
/r/MensRights23/07/21 11:07 PM
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From what I can see the guy doesn't have anything to do even with incels, let alone MRAs. He wrote a manifesto that referred to himself as 'the socially exiled incel'. I don't know what affiliation, if any, he has with MRAs. Other than the the same frustrations with how the world works.
/r/MensRights23/07/21 10:56 PM
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So 75 percent of men DO feel the BBC reflects people like them? That means 3 times more men believe the BBC represents them than believe the BBC doesn't represent them. This hardly seems like a win. Edit: I looked it up. "Respondents were also asked if the BBC is effective in its mission to inform, educate and entertain. 75 percent of men agreed with the sentimen"
/r/MensRights23/07/21 07:51 PM
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Her? I'm a man. Do you assume I'm a woman because I don't like sexism? That's....telling.
/r/MensRights23/07/21 02:41 PM
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Women only care about themselves doesn't count as someone speaking negatively about women? Lol. Your grasping here man.
/r/MensRights23/07/21 02:11 PM
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I posted multiple examples of sexism that you're choosing to ignore. I've made my point abundantly clear and you seem like you are just copying and pasting at this point. I may not be dealing with the champion of the debate team here. I guess wanting less sexism here makes me your enemy. Which begs the question, why would you disagree with that?
/r/MensRights23/07/21 02:10 PM
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It obviously is about a woman who is allowed to demand maintenance form a man because she is a woman, and he is a man. Even to the extent of demanding he sell a kidney. People are 'allowed' to demand whatever they want. It's actually getting it that would be an issue. And this woman hasn't gotten anything she's demanded as far as I know. Like I said, there's no court ruling here. Just a woman being a jerk.
/r/MensRights23/07/21 02:07 PM
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Lol.i get it. You just think sexism doesn't exist so that's why you're so confident I can't find an example. I posted multiple examples of completely inappropriate comments that are upvoted. You can defend them all you want but that says more about you than about me.
/r/MensRights23/07/21 02:05 PM
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This was just all kinds of messed up. 'Women lose value as they age and men gain value' and its upvoted? Wtf?
/r/MensRights23/07/21 01:40 PM
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This one was rough too. I guess saying someone harassed you makes you a viable target for insults. Lots of upvotes on that one. I guess women should k ow better than to say they were harassed. Silencing women is not part of the movement and shouldn't be tolerated. Let alone upvoted. Bad behaviour
/r/MensRights23/07/21 01:33 PM
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I forgot about this one. Yikes
/r/MensRights23/07/21 01:24 PM
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Oh man this is cringe
/r/MensRights23/07/21 01:14 PM
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But, if you'd really like an example of an upvoted post just claiming women are monsters,here's one. Saying the vast majority of women that report rapes are lying is an obvious attack on women. Not even a subtle one. But I guess you could make the argument that this person is only saying women that have been raped are monsters...not all women. This is gross
/r/MensRights23/07/21 01:11 PM
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The article with 274 upvotes (nearly triple this article) says NOTHING about any unfair court ruling, any bias in the justice system, any discrimination or sexism at an institutional level, or any decisions at all at a court level. It simply says what the woman is demanding. It has no ruling that is unjust or unfair. All it is, is a woman saying terrible things. That article that more than doubles the upvotes and engagement of this one, is quite simply 'woman bad, does bad things'. It has no bea…
/r/MensRights23/07/21 01:06 PM
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There's no need to get defensive just because I think helping men should be the focus of this group. Not stories about some woman doing something selfish.
/r/MensRights23/07/21 12:52 PM
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Who cares if feminists are ignoring male issues? They were always ignoring male issues. Trying to convince feminists to care about male issues by bashing feminism is a fools errand. We should be trying to convince non feminists to care about male issues. And the way to do that is not 'women didn't have it that bad in the 60s'. That has nothing to do with mens problems now.
/r/MensRights23/07/21 12:50 PM
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This is a tremendous step forward for mens rights and helping men that are struggling in Canada. It saddens me that an article about a woman demanding money from her husband who has cancer has twice as many upvotes and dozens more comments and has nothing to do with mens rights. Sometimes I feel huge victories like this get overshadowed by 'women bad' posts.
/r/MensRights23/07/21 11:09 AM
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I wish the effort that goes into convincing people that women don't have problems could be applied to convincing people to actually help mens problems. More focus on mens rights instead of bashing women's rights.
/r/MensRights23/07/21 11:06 AM
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I am a man. I know what problems men have. Defending stereotypes hurts men and women. Don't do it. People should be judged by their actions not what dangles between their legs.
/r/MensRights22/07/21 09:31 PM
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Yeah. A great example of an area men are disadvantaged.
/r/MensRights22/07/21 09:01 PM
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Right. Because men don't get pregnant and take a year off to nurse a baby. obviously.
/r/MensRights22/07/21 08:00 PM
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Stereotypes about men and women are what prevents equality. Men are seen as less able to be caregivers and that's one of the reasons they are hurt in family court. Are you seriously asking why stereotyping people is a problem?
/r/MensRights22/07/21 07:59 PM
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Yeah. Thats called stereotyping and it hurts people.
/r/MensRights22/07/21 07:53 PM
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I'm not saying it's better to be anyone. I'm saying employers don't like employees taking extended leaves when they have a baby. Doesn't seem like something to argue about.
/r/MensRights22/07/21 07:34 PM
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Yes. But it takes 5 seconds to Google. Here's one. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/08/180809144524.htm
/r/MensRights22/07/21 07:12 PM
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Seems like you just want to argue with someone. The things I posted are all commonly accepted as facts in society. If you don't think businesses don't like women taking time off or women face pressure to stay at home... you're probably not that in touch with reality.
/r/MensRights22/07/21 07:08 PM
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It's mostly in the corporate world since that's that's area that was traditionally controlled by men. In the family structure, men are often getting screwed. Men are typically seen as better leaders, not ever viewed as diversity hires because they are men, tend to climb the corporate ladder faster, employers don't worry you will take a year off to get pregnant, there's no pressure on men to be stay at home dads, you don't have to invest as much time and energy in your appearance for people to re…
/r/MensRights22/07/21 07:00 PM
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I don't think either gender has it particularly easier. As a man, I just envy the ways women have it easier. Just like women tend to envy the ways men have it easier. The people that get caught up trying to determine who has it worse are just wasting their breath.
/r/MensRights22/07/21 06:48 PM
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The kanin study is universally seen as garbage. They pushed lie detector tests which is widely seen as a bad idea for rape victims since it makes them feel like they are being discredited. They don't announce what police department it is so no one can verify the results...and 41 percent of women recanted? That's a huge statistical anomaly anywhere. Nowhere near that many women recant in any other study or police database in the world. I get it. You have an agenda. But the truth is we will NEVER …
/r/MensRights22/07/21 11:57 AM
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Jan Jordan is a feminist. And SHE (you assumed it was a man for some reason) never put forth a paper claiming 41 percent of allegations are false. She did however say this "The crime of rape is one of the oldest and most serious on our criminal statute books. The history of criminal justice system responses to it, however, demonstrates the continuing legacy of patriarchal beliefs and reflects often damaging, stereotypical thinking about both the nature ofwomen and the nature of rape" And Kanins …
/r/MensRights22/07/21 10:24 AM
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This person literally says over 90 percent
/r/MensRights22/07/21 09:11 AM
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This seems clear
/r/MensRights22/07/21 09:07 AM
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If the commenters here were on the jury...yeah. people are all saying she lied and deserves to be in jail. But if normal people were on the jury. No. No chance she goes to prison. The justice system doesn't usually screw women like that.
/r/MensRights22/07/21 08:38 AM
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The point is to get tips, and use those tips to collect hard evidence. If they got this tip from this woman, got a warrant for DNA and his DNA matched. She basically solved the crime and deserves a reward. But you need to use the tips to get REAL evidence. Otherwise it's a disaster.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 02:55 PM
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Crimestoppers often offers people money in exchange for tips to solve crimes. Which is a fine system but not if you are jailing people on that evidence alone.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 02:49 PM
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She would have been paid 12 grand if she was telling the truth. Thats how rewards for tips work. So that doesn't really prove one way or the other.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 01:57 PM
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She may have done nothing more than tell the truth and she gets a plethora of abuse. A justice system locked a man up without evidence and few are commenting on the disgusting nature of the justice system. People are picking the wrong enemy.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 01:57 PM
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Seems most people disagree though. Most people blame the woman and they've made that pretty clear. I appreciate you saying there is a possibility that this wasn't her fault but that clarity and neutrality seems rare. The justice system has been horrible for men. And continues to be. But it seems many care more about blaming a woman than actually critiquing the justice system that caused this.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 01:35 PM
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What evidence is there that she lied? I read the article and there was none.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 01:22 PM
2

So asking for an example would be too much again? Just one example of bias that hurts men in my hundreds of posts? It's easy to make claims on the internet. It's a lot harder to prove them. So I understand how you won't do it. But I think deep down you know I'm neutral and that's why you won't find examples of bias in my posts.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 01:15 PM
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I've never made a post that hurts men. Saying a woman should be innocent until proven guilty does not hurt men. You just think every one that disagrees with you is attacking men.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 01:12 PM
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No one knows. So you can't lock her up, call her a liar, and say she's a false accuser. Remember, she only accused him of SAYING he was going to murder someone. She never told the police he did it.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 01:09 PM
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You can search my history. Any post that you feel is biased towards women, I'd like to see it. I pride myself on being impartial.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 01:08 PM
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Right. But if her accusation was true...should she still go to jail? For telling the truth? Obviously not.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 01:07 PM
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If neutrality and impartiality is 'tearing men down' than you may not be wanting equality.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 01:07 PM
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And a horrible thing that happened to him. A travesty of justice that shouldn't happen to anyone. But his time in prison doesn't make this woman any more or less guilty of any crimes. Innocent until proven guilty. She shouldn't be locked up when there is no proof she lied at all.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 01:05 PM
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Everything i say is neutral, pragmatic, and fair. If you think that is pro-women, it may be you that has biases.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 01:04 PM
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Right. We don't know what happened. Which means saying she is evil or belongs in jail is not okay. Because innocent until proven guilty is still a thing.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 01:02 PM
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I don't understand your point. I don't know what patriarchy is so therefore this woman is a liar? What evidence do you have to support this woman made a malicious act? Do you not need proof because it's a woman? I'm not picking sides here. You are. I'm the one requiring proof before picking sides.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 01:00 PM
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If someone told me they were going to kill someone, and then that person ended up dead... I'd go to the police and tell them. And if I later found out he was innocent, that makes me a false accuser? For telling the truth?
/r/MensRights21/07/21 12:58 PM
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I don't understand your point. There's no proof either of them did anything wrong. We should base actions on proof. Not feelings on gender.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 12:55 PM
1

Even if what she said was the truth? If he really did say he was going to kill this guy and she reported that to the police...you think she was wrong to do that?
/r/MensRights21/07/21 12:52 PM
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100 percent the justice system is to blame. Putting people in jail for life because they said they were going to kill someone is not NEARLY enough proof. A terrible miscarriage of justice.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 12:31 PM
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Seems like anything outside of 'woman liar bad' and any attempt at reason...gets downvoted.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 12:19 PM
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Right. They jailed him when he was innocent. Thats unacceptable. Which is why I don't see why people want to take that chance jailing this lady when there is no evidence she lied.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 12:14 PM
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It didn't say she accused him anywhere. The state accused him since its a murder charge. She just testified that he said he was going to kill the man. Something that may or may not have been true. We don't know.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 12:13 PM
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There is no evidence that he didn't say that though. People threaten to kill people all the time in anger. It's not nearly enough to put a man in jail for it. But it doesn't mean she lied. She may have told the gods honest truth and he did say he was going to kill this guy. He just didn't end up actually killing this guy.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 12:11 PM
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The crazy part, is no matter how bad these attacks are, 99 percent of men don't even know they are under attack. It seems only a small portion of extremists on the internet have figured it out.
/r/MensRights21/07/21 11:57 AM
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There's no evidence that she lied in her testimony. Why would you want to put her in jail? Did you read the article? Innocent until proven guilty is an important part of the justice system. You can't throw someone in jail for perjury without any evidence of perjury. Edit: A man was put in jail WITHOUT evidence. And people would rather blame a woman that MIGHT have lied. Instead of a justice system that imprisoned a man on testimony alone. If you want equality for men, you blame the justice syste…
/r/MensRights21/07/21 11:53 AM
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People here think feminists are the same as nazis. I'm skeptical anyone believes someone is a level headed feminist. Even though the majority of the population identifies as feminist.
/r/MensRights20/07/21 09:36 PM
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Obviously they do. They've clearly manipulated Google.
/r/MensRights20/07/21 08:52 PM
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Nah. Feminism doesn't advertise their pro rape stance. Obviously. In fact, most Google information says feminism is an equality movement. Google the KKK and it says much different. So it's not the same at all.
/r/MensRights20/07/21 08:16 PM
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Do they know it's a movement supporting rape? Because if not...it doesn't tell you much about them.
/r/MensRights20/07/21 07:28 PM
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If you have something that suggested the dictionary is wrong, I'd be happy to read it. But to just believe you when the evidence is contradictory seems like it would be a bit naive
/r/MensRights20/07/21 05:07 PM
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I'm not saying you're a liar. I'm saying I just think it makes more sense to believe dictionaries instead of strangers on the internet. But you could be right.
/r/MensRights20/07/21 04:35 PM
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I don't think that's what patriarchy means. I think patriarchy just means men controlled the wealth and power in society. Not that men are evil and purposefully keeping women down. But like I said, I don't spend that much time researching feminist theory. I just looked up patriarchy in some dictionaries.
/r/MensRights20/07/21 03:59 PM
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I don't know enough about feminist theory to know if that's all true. Feminist theory says men are all powerful and evil? That doesn't sound right...
/r/MensRights20/07/21 03:28 PM
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Whether someone identifies as feminist doesn't tell you anything about them. Just that they have seen your traditional slogans that feminism is about women's rights and equality. Someone can be all for mens rights and mens issues and still be a feminist. They can also be a man hating psychopath and be a feminist. There's no reason to put then both in the same category. Better of just judging people based on their actions.
/r/MensRights20/07/21 03:27 PM
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I can't know for sure. Feminists are either against men getting help for mental health issues. Or they are against being compared to nazis. I do know it's definitely one of the two things though.
/r/MensRights20/07/21 12:49 PM
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It's very obvious that feminist organizations are against the mens rights movement. Likely because the mens rights movement believes feminism is the cause of male problems, feminists are comparable to nazis, and feminism has made women of today worse people.
/r/MensRights20/07/21 11:19 AM
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There's no country on earth that imprisons men for having dating requirements around sex.
/r/MensRights19/07/21 11:49 AM
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No. No man is serving jail time or been charged with coercion for telling his girlfriend he will only date her if they are sexually active.
/r/MensRights19/07/21 11:45 AM
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Sexual coercion laws cover a wide gambit. If an employer says sleep with me or you're fired, they can be charged under sexual coercion laws. So no. We dont get rid of sexual coercion laws. A more apt comparison would be a man saying sleep with me or we are breaking up. And a woman saying marry me or we are breaking up. And in both of those scenarios, no one gets charged with a crime.
/r/MensRights19/07/21 11:39 AM
0

Being cautious of every women is good advice. Being cautious of every man is sexism.
/r/MensRights19/07/21 11:30 AM
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If you don't think marriage is worth this risk. Don't get married. If you do think it's worth the risk, get married. If you're girlfriend is pressuring you to get married, marry her or don't. But don't expect to be able to blame the decision on someone else.
/r/MensRights19/07/21 11:29 AM
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So a law that says men can come forward 4 years later claiming coercion because they all of a sudden decided they regret what they did? Is that any different then a woman coming forward 4 years later because she regrets having sex with someone and saying she was coerced?
/r/MensRights19/07/21 11:20 AM
1

Exposing your upper body is legal. Exposing your lower body is not. So its hard to pretend they are exactly the same.
/r/MensRights19/07/21 11:10 AM
-4

So it's okay for women to chase mens money because they are biologically driven to do so? And it's okay for men to chase 20 year olds because they are biologically driven to do so? Seems like you're just making excuses for people to be shallow.
/r/MensRights18/07/21 03:05 PM
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Have you ever had a conversation with a 20 year old when you are 30? Women don't lose value as they age. They gain life experience and become better people. Just like men. The only people that say women lose value as they age are the people that don't care about anything other than looks. And that's sexist AF.
/r/MensRights18/07/21 01:53 PM
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You're just openly subscribing to hypergamy though. If you think marrying 'up' means a partner that makes more money than you, you're just as shallow as your average gold digger. Marry someone you like. Not someone you like because of their bank balance.
/r/MensRights18/07/21 01:30 PM
3

Hypergamy is real. And it always will be if everyone in society subscribes to it. So roll over if you want. Say you're beat. Take a job you hate so the pretty girl will wear make up for you. But nothing will ever change. I'd rather date a women that likes me than a woman that likes my money.
/r/MensRights18/07/21 11:47 AM
-3

The number of university applicants is split up about 60 percent female and 40 percent male. So most universities are typically 60 percent female and 40 percent male. That's exactly the numbers that make sense. Assuming equal grades among students, If you want it to be 50/50 enrollment, you'd need to accept people based on gender instead of merit which is stupid. Universities need to be merit based. The question should be why less males are applying for university? Hatred of school? Fear of alle…
/r/MensRights18/07/21 11:17 AM
9

No one is forced to work any job. If you want to take a job that doesn't pay well but you love, do it. If women won't date you because you don't have a high paying job, did you really want to date those women anyway? Why date someone so shallow?
/r/MensRights18/07/21 10:48 AM
0

There's court of public opinion...and there's legal court. Burden of proof is different for each. They can't put Cosby in jail, but he passed my burden of proof in court of public opinion. So Eff that guy. The burden of proof for me to think you are probably a rapist is a lot lower than the burden of proof to lock you up and deprive you of your basic freedoms. If 16 people say someone is a rapist, I don't want my daughter to hang out with them. But that doesn't mean there's enough evidence to ja…
/r/MensRights18/07/21 12:58 AM
-16

Mens rights: no one cares about men's feelings. Mens lib: discusses Mens feelings Mens rights: shut up cucks, your feelings don't change laws.
/r/MensRights17/07/21 02:29 PM
-1

Female privilege is getting less sentences for the same crimes as men. White people also get shorter sentences for the same crimes as minorities. Isn't that white privilege?
/r/MensRights17/07/21 12:58 PM
-1

Very few white people, male or female, seem able to acknowledge that the dominant majority has fewer obstacles than minorities. I think you're about to find that out in this comment section.
/r/MensRights17/07/21 12:47 PM
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How so? I find some great discussions on mens emotions on mens lib. It's really helpful to have those conversations and you don't see it anywhere else. But they aren't mad at feminism so they are all cucks and enemies of men? The enemies of men are the ones that call men 'cucks' because they don't think exactly like them. If you wanted to help men, you'd discuss things with them. Not call them names to suggest they are 'less manly' and their wife is cheating on them.
/r/MensRights17/07/21 11:23 AM
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I've never been falsely accused of a crime. I can't imagine anyone hating me enough to do something like that.
/r/MensRights16/07/21 08:20 PM
-1

I don't support feminism. Not everyone that disagrees with you is immediately a feminist.
/r/MensRights16/07/21 05:31 PM
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Let's not. Due process is a cornerstone of justice.
/r/MensRights16/07/21 02:19 PM
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Unknown. Obviously.
/r/MensRights16/07/21 02:18 PM
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Agreed. Which is why I told someone they were wrong for saying DNA evidence is proof of sex assault. Because that DNA evidence does not prove lack of consent. I'm defending men here so I don't see why you're being so combative.
/r/MensRights16/07/21 01:55 PM
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I'm sure you would like there to be less sexual assaults on campus too. Which means you also think there are too many. I think everyone agrees that it's too many.
/r/MensRights16/07/21 01:53 PM
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Yes. Because non consent is such a difficult thing to prove. I dont think i understand the point you are making. That sexual assault is uncommon on campuses and rainn just pretends its more common?
/r/MensRights16/07/21 01:52 PM
-2

That too many people are sexually assaulted on campuses.
/r/MensRights16/07/21 01:20 PM
-2

I did mean sexual assault and I edited it. Thanks. You think that every woman that claims she was raped with seminal fluid in her has evidence that it was non consensual sex? That obviously isn't true. Moreover, you can sexually assault someone without ejaculating in them. Obviously.
/r/MensRights16/07/21 12:56 PM
-4

Sexual assault on campus is a real problem. But it's often being reported with minimal proof and you can only do so much with minimal proof. So the nature of sexual assault rarely leaving evidence, being behind closed doors, and being something women don't often want to report is what leads to the heightened levels of assault on campus. I don't think it has anything to do with the laws in place. https://www.rainn.org/statistics/campus-sexual-violence
/r/MensRights16/07/21 12:22 PM
1

There are amazing male and female bosses and the difference between a good boss and a bad one in the same job can be staggering. In my experience, I think I've had better female bosses. Women do tend to be a bit more empathetic. But I've had some great male bosses too.
/r/MensRights16/07/21 11:56 AM
-2

Right. Anyone shrieking kill all men loses credibility. But most people on earth would never say that.
/r/MensRights16/07/21 11:53 AM
-10

Every day feminists come and say we should be more open to feminists who want to help mens issues. And every day we dismiss them, tell them how wrong they are, and isolate this group further.
/r/MensRights16/07/21 02:20 AM
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Police showed up and she was the one charged. If he had hit her back, he would have lost millions of dollars. A reminder to always try to be level headed and let justice prevail. One swing there could have ruined his life even after she knocked his teeth out.
/r/MensRights15/07/21 01:10 PM
0

I think you're getting defensive because you posted an ad that was simply about encouraging women and called it 'feminist' because it upset you. And now everyone is telling you that you just get offended easily and you need to relax. Encouraging women doesn't hurt you as a man. You'll be okay. Deep breaths.
/r/MensRights15/07/21 02:53 AM
-2

You're not the type like feminists to get offended by everything. But you were offended that I said the commercial didn't mention men when it mentioned the national basketball association. If that offends you...I assure you, you get offended easily.
/r/MensRights15/07/21 02:29 AM
-4

Good. Then we agree the ad wasn't offensive. Feminist troll or not we can agree on that.
/r/MensRights15/07/21 02:25 AM
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Did that line offend you? Because i don't think that's offensive to men. Did you find the ad offensive?
/r/MensRights15/07/21 02:23 AM
-2

This doesn't mention men at all. It's just pro women. Nothing wrong with encouraging women to be successful.
/r/MensRights15/07/21 02:17 AM
-2

Right. How can men address mens issues without Google home page having pictures you want on it? That lack of pictures and someone saying the word 'mansplain' are just too huge of obstacles to overcome. Feminism has crushed us again...
/r/MensRights15/07/21 02:11 AM
-3

More decals on a website for women's day... and a word that hurts your feelings. Yep, we are talking the same level as the nazis with mass Graves, gas chambers, and work camps. These exaggerated complaints have become embarrassing. It's why people laugh when people talk about men's rights.
/r/MensRights15/07/21 02:03 AM
-3

Both groups are too full of extremists to be taken seriously. That's why the majority of the population doesn't want to identify as either one.
/r/MensRights15/07/21 01:27 AM
0

The obsession with fighting feminists is childish and hurts the mens rights movement. No one here likes feminists...what are we hoping to accomplish whining about it endlessly?
/r/MensRights14/07/21 10:34 PM
11

Staying at home and earning money for a family are no more or less important.
/r/MensRights14/07/21 08:33 PM
1

Women kicking men out of the house because they suspect infidelity is due to....feminism? So is it the patriarchy that causes men to accuse women of infidelity?
/r/MensRights14/07/21 07:45 PM
0

So you want convicted male criminals out of jail 60 percent faster? Murderers, rapists, sex traffickers...you want them out of prison because women get lighter sentences? That seems...like a weird point to be making.
/r/MensRights14/07/21 06:47 PM
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Wait... feminism is a hate movement because they are looking to convince people that women were victimized and men are to blame.. Then you go and say the EXACT same thing in reverse. Wtf? Are you not acknowledging that what your saying is a hate movement as well?
/r/MensRights14/07/21 06:31 PM
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"better an innocent man be locked up than risk a guilty one get away" The feminists saying this have exactly 0 effect on the justice system. The justice system in America has always been founded upon better 9 guilty men go free than one innocent person goes to jail. So I don't see how the ramblings of some dumb feminist have affected the justice system at all. How exactly is a stupid tweet from dumb feminist leading to mass incarceration of men?
/r/MensRights14/07/21 05:31 PM
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To be fair, it was the lawyer that claimed that she was 300 km away. So that's not exactly a fact. Moreover, with all the evidence they had of this woman stalking her, it makes sense that she's terrified so she could have still just assumed it was her incorrectly out of fear. Either way, it's enough for a trial and certainly not an open and shut case either way.
/r/MensRights14/07/21 05:23 PM
-7

I can't imagine anyone is that out of touch with reality...
/r/MensRights14/07/21 05:05 PM
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Incarceration of criminals for breaking the law is due to feminism? Do you think people should just be let out of prison because feminists somehow put them in there? I'm not understanding the point here. That prisons exist and it's feminists fault?
/r/MensRights14/07/21 05:00 PM
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How so? Feminism isn't a person and it cannot speak. Is someone telling people to not care about men's issues? 50 percent of the population is men? Is it men doing it too? How is feminism telling people not to listen and how can we change that?
/r/MensRights14/07/21 04:41 PM
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That would imply feminists are rounding men up and gassing them. A more apt comparison would be a bunch of feminists talking about female issues and endlessly blaming the patriarchy instead of discussing how to make things better or how to deal with issues facing women.
/r/MensRights14/07/21 04:39 PM
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The biggest barrier to handling mens issues is not feminism. At all. If you ask 100 people on the street what mens rights issues are, 99 laugh. That's the biggest barrier to mens rights. People aren't listening. And they never will if the group is dismissed as a bunch of angry men whining about women getting access to abortions in Nambia or Melinda gates teaching women in the Sudan about nutrition. Most people believe feminism is equality. Screaming about how feminism ruined modern women makes t…
/r/MensRights14/07/21 04:27 PM
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It'd be nice to be able to discuss mens issues and mens rights without a diatribe about how much someone hates feminists always high jacking the conversation. Feminism sucks. But maybe the conversation about men's issues should be about more than that. Maybe a discussion on stereotypes and how people have handled them would be positive. But this will be the top comment for sure because anger begets anger.
/r/MensRights14/07/21 04:04 PM
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I think people view this group as misogynistic because people literally upvote comments that say the majority of women reporting rapes are just liars. How can people not think this group hates women
/r/MensRights14/07/21 01:32 PM
0

But don't women work much less after they are married and have kids? Sexual market value becomes a non factor at that point. And married men who lose their jobs are killing themselves because their sexual market value is down? That doesn't make all that much sense as they aren't on that market. Gender stereotypes and expectations placed on people explain behaviour far better than 'sexual market value'.
/r/MensRights14/07/21 01:17 PM
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People need to think of rape less as the violent attacks with forced penetration. This is a VERY small percentage of rapes. Rape culture would more be about how men and women are willing to manipulate eachother to get sex that the other person may not have wanted. Getting a girl or guy blackout drunk and having sex with them is still fairly common play in university. Giving a girl benadryl to knock her out like cosby still gets defended by some people. We live in a culture that encourages manipu…
/r/MensRights14/07/21 12:59 PM
0

Everyone acknowledges and admits the earnings gap is real. It's because women work less. But do they work less because they feel more responsible for child rearing and handling things at home? Do they earn less because they don't take big promotions because the hours would be too much to manage their home the way they want to? Because that's stereotypes of what a woman 'should be' that would cause them to feel that way. Men feeling like their earnings and status are the most important thing are …
/r/MensRights14/07/21 12:47 PM
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There is no evidence in the entire article that this is a false accusation. A 5 month police investigation resulted in charges being brought against the alleged perpetrator. There is evidence that the alleged perpetrators new girlfriend was stalking the alleged victim and sending screenshots of social media plans to the alleged rapist at his request so he would know what she is doing. The only person saying that this was an attempt to frame the alleged rapist and that the police were in on it...…
/r/MensRights14/07/21 12:33 PM
1

I really wish this group got more attention to some of the real issues that should be addressed. Or real discussions of issues men face. But the posts and comments go too quickly back to 'feminists are as bad as nazis' or 'women reporting rapes are just liars'. And these are the posts that get the upvotes. This group will be quarantined soon enough and countless people won't get to see some of the really valuable articles posted here. All because people wanted to be angry and irrational instead …
/r/MensRights14/07/21 05:24 AM
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Luckily, most women work full time jobs and don't do this.
/r/MensRights14/07/21 03:48 AM
1

Which feminist passed those laws? Who was it? Do you even know the feminists name? Or do you have no idea who passed any law and you just assume they are feminists? See? You blame feminism for actions that you don't even know who did them because you spend your life fearing an ideology.
/r/MensRights14/07/21 03:39 AM
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That would hurt men. Women making false accusations would never recant and men would forever have to live with the stigma of an accusation. The truth is what's important and if womrn fear the repercussions of coming forward more than coming forward, they'll stay silent and men will suffer for a lifetime.
/r/MensRights14/07/21 02:11 AM
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And what are you doing to help men? Making anonymous comments about how female rape victims are lying? How many men has that helped?
/r/MensRights14/07/21 01:31 AM
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You're 100 percent correct. But many would rather fight feminism than actually try to make a difference. Most people here just want to be told they are right. They don't actually care about helping men. If they did, they'd try to make this group inclusive and the most upvoted comments wouldn't be that most reported rapes are fake. Like this
/r/MensRights14/07/21 12:14 AM
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You don't have to change. You can be exactly like feminists if you want. But I think that's dumb.
/r/MensRights13/07/21 04:39 PM
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https://www.thelocal.se/20100112/24330/ Quotas are helping men here. But that's why feminists want them eliminated.
/r/MensRights13/07/21 04:34 PM
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Why? They assume all men are guilty without caring about the truth. They are no different than the people assuming women are lying without caring about the truth.
/r/MensRights13/07/21 03:10 PM
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You have evidence that the vast majority of reported rapes are false accusations? I don't think you do. So why claim you do?
/r/MensRights13/07/21 03:09 PM
-5

Wait...for real? Nah, this is a hate group A bad one
/r/MensRights13/07/21 01:25 PM
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Maybe. But they spend a lot of time complaining about 'modern women' for people that don't hate women.
/r/MensRights13/07/21 01:16 PM
1

The push would only come if males are TRYING to get into those jobs. If men are applying and getting turned down, they should put quotas in. But most men don't want to be receptionists...so quotas don't really make sense. Male teachers for example are helped by gender quotas. At least where I live and with the male teachers I know. Gender quotas are designed to keep things even. Doesn't always work. But it stops employers from being blatantly sexist in hiring. Against either gender.
/r/MensRights13/07/21 01:15 PM
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That sucks. No one should be favored based on gender. That's why we have gender quotas. To make sure people aren't exclusively hiring one gender. You should support gender quotas if you don't want business to only hire women.
/r/MensRights13/07/21 01:05 PM
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It's legitimately embarrassing for the mens rights movement that so many people will upvote comments like this. It's why people see this group as a hate group. 'Most women are lying about being raped' is not something people say when they want mens rights. It's what people say when they hate women. This is embarrassing and I expected better from this group.
/r/MensRights13/07/21 12:29 PM
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Then go be like feminists. Just don't do it on a subreddit that wants to be better than feminism.
/r/MensRights13/07/21 12:01 PM
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That means prosecutors are only choosing slam dunks for false allegations and they are willing to choose rape cases that are more questionable. It doesn't prove anything that you said is true. If you want to be exactly like feminists and just assume the vast majority of women are lying without any proof, that's fine. But take it over to MGTOW or other hate groups. MRAs care about facts and equality.
/r/MensRights13/07/21 11:34 AM
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That sounds like a crazy bitch is to blame. Not really an ideology. That's like blaming the patriarchy every time a man does something wrong. It's dumb.
/r/MensRights13/07/21 11:32 AM
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Making assumptions of guilt without ANY proof to support it is a feminist thing. Not an MRA thing. There's no evidence to support false accusations being any where near the 'vast majority'
/r/MensRights13/07/21 11:23 AM
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Feminism has never affected my life at all. The amount of space people let it take up in their head must be exhausting. Being afraid of the hundreds of millions of people that identify as feminist must be a full time job.
/r/MensRights13/07/21 11:09 AM
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Domestic violence increases with alcohol consumption and football matches tend to lead to increased alcohol consumption. So I'd say it's at least a little true.
/r/MensRights12/07/21 01:53 PM
2

The companionship of a shared life is very good for humans. Having someone to share your life with is invaluable. I definitely appreciate a lot of things about my wife and hookers being legal don't help me with any of the male issues I'm struggling with. It wouldn't help anyone in a monogamous relationship. Which is most men.
/r/MensRights12/07/21 01:23 PM
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I dont think we are anywhere near a future where women have to pay for sex. Very few men support the whole MGTOW idea.
/r/MensRights12/07/21 12:21 PM
2

Yes. But jailing someone for getting a prostitute wouldn't make sense in 99.99 percent of circumstances. That's why according to this article, sweden has never used jail as a sentence for buying a prostitute. Just fines.
/r/MensRights12/07/21 12:18 PM
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No it shouldn't. Sex is not the only reason that marriage and partnership is advantageous. If the only reason you are marrying your partner is to get regular intercourse, your relationship won't work and you'll be victimized by the divorce courts as much as any man.
/r/MensRights12/07/21 11:51 AM
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According to this, no one in Sweden has been put in prison for buying sex. No jail time for Sweden sex buyers
/r/MensRights12/07/21 11:48 AM
-2

But won't it be good to have hard data that men are being paid less? That would be good to know conclusively if it is happening. Why fight against the research?
/r/MensRights11/07/21 06:38 PM
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"The new legislation means that employers in federally regulated sectors with 10 or more employees will have three years to identify and correct pay disparities within their workforces — disparities which most often result in women earning less than men." If they find out inequities between men and women, they should equalize them. That makes sense. I don't see an issue with this legislation.
/r/MensRights11/07/21 05:31 PM
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Feminists are always listing terrible things men have done and then saying toxic masculinity is destroying society. Is listing terrible things females have done and saying toxic femininity is destroying society any different? Perhaps it's time to stop being exactly like feminism and start blaming people for their actions instead of ideologies.
/r/MensRights11/07/21 01:44 PM
4

The pursuit of women's rights and equality.
/r/MensRights11/07/21 11:49 AM
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Because like most feminists, she hasn't researched the bad parts of feminism. Just read about all the good parts.
/r/MensRights11/07/21 11:23 AM
3

I'm dating a feminist and she respects men. Feminist is a really wide term as most women identify as feminists but obviously most women are pretty chill. Only some are the crazed type of feminist.
/r/MensRights11/07/21 11:14 AM
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It's even more effective when it's a faceless ideology. Making everyone afraid of the patriarchy or feminism allows you to blame everything on the ideology without needing a person specifically.
/r/MensRights10/07/21 11:35 AM
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You're misunderstanding. I'm saying even if every man in jail for rape was falsely accused, it's still less than 1 in 100,000. False accusations resulting in imprisonment are far less common than women being murdered. So OPs logic that it's rare means false accusations resulting in imprisonment are significantly more rare. I think both are a big deal and not 'overreactions'.
/r/MensRights10/07/21 11:30 AM
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That means less than 1 in 100,000 women were murdered by a man. Less than 1 in 100,000 men go to jail for rape each year. In America. Does that mean that it's ' hysteria' to worry about false accusations of rape? Are discussions about false accusations creating false hysteria and hurting men by giving them more anxiety? Are discussions of false accusations further pushing the 'women suck' narrative? If so, you can see why women hate mens rights groups for the same reason men hate feminism I gues…
/r/MensRights10/07/21 10:55 AM
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Murder is not the only negative reaction to rejection. Many people don't handle rejection well, especially when alcohol is involved. Many might just call a woman a fat bitch and walk away. Might follow her for too long making her scared. Some women might call men pansies or pussies for rejecting them. Or question their sexuality. Pretending the only negative and scary reaction to rejection is murder is naive. If you've met drunk humans, you know that they don't always take rejection very well an…
/r/MensRights10/07/21 10:39 AM
0

Well. Can you name a single time that happened and a man went to jail? Just one. You say he is guilty of rape in that scenario but has anyone actually ever been declared guilty of rape for having drunk sex? Ever?
/r/MensRights10/07/21 02:30 AM
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Will convincing the world that the injustices women faced weren't that big of a deal help mens rights at all?
/r/MensRights09/07/21 09:38 PM
1

So you're okay banging a girl that can barely walk because they are so drunk? Really? That's pretty gross man...
/r/MensRights09/07/21 09:29 PM
1

Doesn't make it a good idea. Or morally okay. I'd say it's pretty disgusting behaviour.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 08:33 PM
1

It applies to all consent according to the law office from the link I posted. I trust their legal opinion over yours.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 08:15 PM
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It's very hard. So convictions are rare. You basically need a room full of people to see a woman barely functioning and some dude carrying her to a bedroom to bang her. Pretty gross behaviour. Although some people think a woman that drunk can still consent and that behaviour is acceptable.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 08:10 PM
1

New Jersey statute says you can't sleep with someone that is so drunk and their consent doesn't count as consent. So what is legally criminal rape in New Jersey....you find okay. Thats pretty messed up.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 08:09 PM
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It can't be more clear than this....it specifically says exactly what I told you. You can be too drunk to consent. What happens if a drunk person gives their consent despite being physically and/or mentally incapacitated temporarily? New Jersey Revised Statutes section 2C:2-10 answers this question. Under the law, ineffective consent means a person cannot legally give consent if: They are legally incompetent to authorize sexual activity They are a person who, because of youth, mental disease or …
/r/MensRights09/07/21 08:02 PM
1

https://www.brickdonlaw.com/blog/2021/january/how-drunk-is-too-drunk-to-consent-to-sex-/
/r/MensRights09/07/21 07:26 PM
1

The criminal code of canada says intoxication is considered regarding someone's capacity to consent. Similar clauses exist in most jurisdictions around the world. Mental capacity is obviously important regarding someone's ability to consent and that is enforced. So....wrong. so if you are sleeping with women that are nearly unconscious...stop. it's a crime.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 07:14 PM
1

Wow... no. Wrong. If a woman is so drunk she's nearly unconscious and says 'do me'. Don't do her bro. That's rape. How do adults in this world still need to be told that?
/r/MensRights09/07/21 07:00 PM
1

If she's hammered, she's too drunk to consent. It's just that easy.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 06:54 PM
1

Right. So don't sleep with very drunk girls because you don't know if they are too drunk too consent and you don't want it to require a court room to find out. It's common sense so there's no reason to push back on this.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 06:53 PM
0

Having sex with someone that is too drunk to consent is rape. Gender doesn't matter. I don't understand why so many people are struggling with that.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 06:46 PM
1

Yeah. They're both dumb.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 05:59 PM
0

Right. Girl is so hammered she doesn't remember anything. You bang her. She wakes up and thinks she'd never consent to that so she must have been unconscious when you banged. Your life is ruined and she honestly believes she was raped which had long lasting effects on her. How is that worth it? It might be 'lame' to not bang that girl that's falling down drunk. But it's obviously stupid to do it.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 05:39 PM
2

'Don't sleep with women when they are super hammered' doesn't make sense to you? It's just a piece of advice. You don't have to listen to me. You can continue sleeping with women that are hammered. I just think it's a terrible idea that can end really badly for both parties.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 05:34 PM
1

No. No one said that. Neither party should sleep with someone that is super drunk. I made that very clear when I said 'that's good advice for both genders'
/r/MensRights09/07/21 05:30 PM
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They sure do. Those women will sleep with you when they aren't hammered. So don't sleep with them when they are hammered.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 05:28 PM
2

You think you get so drunk that you might accidentally take advantage of a really drunk woman? Or are you worried you get so drunk that a woman is going to take advantage of you? Either way, the answer is don't get so drunk that you'd make such terrible decisions.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 05:27 PM
0

Not taking advantage of someone that has had too much to drink is not the same thing as having a party without sex. The fact that you think sex only happens when the woman has had too much too drink suggests no one ever taught you not to rape...
/r/MensRights09/07/21 05:21 PM
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If you're pushing her to get drunker so she will bang you... you aren't a good person. If she gets super drunk on her own, maybe don't bang her. Thats good advice for both genders.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 04:34 PM
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I think we need to start teaching kids that 'rape' is a bit more complicated than dragging someone into a cave and having your way with them. Taking advantage of drunk people, giving them benadryl without them knowing, purposefully encouraging them to get intoxicated so they will sleep with you, threatening consequences to not have sex. These are all sexual coercion and not okay. These are the grey areas we need to be teaching children about. Both boys and girls.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 03:19 PM
1

Everyone should be pushed to be independent. Everyone. Being reliant on someone else is not a stable situation.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 02:53 PM
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Wanting to be independent is understandable, but the independent women often have male traits that most men find unattractive. What male traits do independent women have that are considered undesirable? Have you considered those same male traits arent desirable to females either and that's why they aren't dating? You want them to lower their standards to date people with traits they don't like, but you seem to have traits you don't like too. Why don't you just lower your standards?
/r/MensRights09/07/21 02:45 PM
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Right. I'm fine comparing feminists that want 90 percent of the male population to be exterminated nazis... but let's be honest, that's pretty much no one. Most people identify as feminist...most people aren't championing sex based genocide. We are comparing men facing hardships in a society that favours women...to being round up in work camps and buried in mass Graves. Comparing them is not okay.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 02:40 PM
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If you think there are too many people in the workforce, why not encourage men to leave the workforce? Why do you specifically suggest women leave the workforce? And women can date who they want. That's the advantage of being independent. Do you feel times were better when women weren't independent and had less options for who they dated? Do you see why women may not want to go back to those times? And why they prefer to be independent?
/r/MensRights09/07/21 12:59 PM
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You can drop out of the workforce if you think there are too many people in the workforce. The expectation that women should drop out because they are women is what is sexist.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 11:56 AM
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If you think the relationship between feminists and men is ANYTHING like the relationship between nazis and Jewish people, you are too far gone to help. Men are not being put in camps and gassed and the comparison is an insult to Jewish people. Men have disadvantages in society that need to be overcome, but being as dramatic as that only makes people think this movement is out of touch with reality. Your method of debate makes 99 percent of the population immediately dismiss you. You won't ever …
/r/MensRights09/07/21 11:43 AM
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Wait. So your problem with feminism is that it is creating strong independent women that want to work instead of stay at home and have babies? Because that's not anti feminism. That's anti women's rights to choose her own lifestyle. Big difference there. Women absolutely can be just as strong and independent as a man and they shouldn't be told otherwise.
/r/MensRights09/07/21 11:17 AM
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So you don't think this comment with 22 upvotes saying modern women are arrogant and fragile... is anti women? If you saw a comment saying men are fragile and arrogant, would you say that's not anti men?
/r/MensRights09/07/21 11:14 AM
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People think this sub is anti women because comments that women are fragile and arrogant get upvoted... It's pretty hard to argue with that assessment.
/r/MensRights08/07/21 04:16 PM
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So you feel holding an invisible boogeyman accountable makes more sense than holding elected officials responsible for the actions of elected officials? You don't see how that's a recipe to never get anything accomplished ever? Politicians can continue to do whatever they want because you ignore them and focus on an invisible entity. If you want to see real change, make it about politicians getting elected. If you're just looking to complain and accomplish nothing, feminism is a FAR easier targe…
/r/MensRights08/07/21 12:46 PM
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I'm arguing that politicians have WAY more power than feminists and if we want to see change, holding politicians accountable is a far better trajectory than blaming feminism for everything. Blaming feminism accomplishes very little because it's not like feminism is making decisions. Politicians are.
/r/MensRights08/07/21 12:22 PM
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You think every politician in every jurisdiction running the dulith model is feminist? I'm not saying feminism isn't to blame. But I think some onus has to be on the people making the decisions. Not just the people that came up with the model.
/r/MensRights08/07/21 12:16 PM
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But if jurisdictions wanted to stop using the duluth model, wouldn't it be up to politicians? So isn't it politicians that are doing it? Be they feminist or not.
/r/MensRights08/07/21 11:58 AM
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Men are more expected to work, provide, support. Women are more expected to clean, raise babies, and manage the home. It was like that for centuries so some of those attitudes still remain. Especially if you look at some of the older generations.
/r/MensRights08/07/21 11:57 AM
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But then you could just hang around in front of highschools and tell 14 year olds to text you saying they are 16 and everything is good and legal. Even if you know their real age. Seems like a pretty huge loophole to leave open. Probably better to just leave it illegal and only prosecute in particularly disturbing cases.
/r/MensRights08/07/21 11:48 AM
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Age of consent in Norway is 16. So you're saying most sex offenders are 18 year olds that slept with 15 year olds? That's the closest you can be in age to be convicted of a sex crime. Still seems kinda gross to me. 15 is super young.
/r/MensRights08/07/21 11:45 AM
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Feminism already has HUGE overlap of support between men and women. Mens rights should be encouraged to try and Garner similar levels of support. Which inequalities faced by men are created specifically by feminism?
/r/MensRights08/07/21 11:36 AM
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Biases regarding gender roles. They screw both genders but in different ways.
/r/MensRights08/07/21 11:33 AM
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I guess it depends at what point you draw the line and start banning people. If it's for being hateful, fine. If it's for saying they support feminism or disagreeing with someone, that's creating an echochamber that won't help anyone.
/r/MensRights08/07/21 02:02 AM
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Anyone who posts any contrary opinions on 2XC is banned and you feel that's the RIGHT way to do things? I adamantly disagree. The reason they are all extremists man haters is because they've surrounded themselves with zero rational opinions. That's insanely dangerous and might make people feel safer...but it also creates echo chambers that radicalize people very quickly.
/r/MensRights08/07/21 01:35 AM
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Right. So you want affirmative action. Whichever gender is falling behind, you want them to get scholarships with lower scores so that it's 50 50 even. I'm not totally against it...but most people aren't that supportive of affirmative action.
/r/MensRights08/07/21 12:32 AM
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Your talking about equal outcome. Not equal opportunity. If 59 percent of scholarship applications are women and it is entirely equal, 59 percent will go to women and 41 percent will go to men. You're assume men and women apply for scholarships in exactly equal numbers and should therefore be 50/50. But based on tertiary education rates, its unlikely men and women are applying equally. Though you could be making the argument that they should be lowering the bar for whichever gender is applying l…
/r/MensRights07/07/21 11:50 PM
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59 percent of scholarships go to women. But don't women make up 59 percent of students? Doesn't that mean men and women are equally likely to get scholarships?
/r/MensRights07/07/21 11:08 PM
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They always assume the woman is the battered one just because she's the one with black eyes.
/r/MensRights07/07/21 10:04 PM
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I'd accept literally anything. Literally one example of that happening and you can't muster it. Wow.
/r/MensRights07/07/21 08:28 PM
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So you do have examples then? Or no?
/r/MensRights07/07/21 06:38 PM
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Someone lost their job and home for complaining? What legal rights were trampled for this to occur? You have to elaborate on such a profound statement.
/r/MensRights07/07/21 06:21 PM
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I just pray for a day that that my brothers in the prisons for complaining will be released. Some people here need to tone down the drama. Men get the short end of the stick and discussion will help that but these 'women are the only ones with rights and men are second class citizens' posts are just exaggerated whining. Something that still very legal. And the idea that 'complaining rights' were given to women is just dumb. We all have the right to complain. And everyone else has the right to ro…
/r/MensRights07/07/21 04:20 PM
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So do you think men should date women that want them to subscribe to traditional gender roles? Or do you think men shouldn't want women to subscribe to traditional gender roles. Which statement do you feel is incorrect?
/r/MensRights07/07/21 12:43 PM
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Exactly. Date women that subscribe to traditional gender roles. But don't date women that expect men to subscribe to traditional gender roles. Those women are toxic.
/r/MensRights07/07/21 11:54 AM
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I haven't found any data to suggest it's even between men and women victims. The country with the most honour killings per capita is pakistan and in Pakistan, women are more than twice as likely to be killed in honour killings. This is more than I expected when looking it up, but what data did you find to support it's even? http://hrcp-web.org/hrcpweb/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/State-of-Human-Rights-in-2020-20210503-KEY-ISSUES.pdf
/r/MensRights07/07/21 11:51 AM
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I think feminism could have been saved by voices of neutrality. I don't want mens rights to go the same route of feminism.
/r/MensRights06/07/21 03:40 PM
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Yep. Which is why creating a mens shelter is pushing for equality. Just like creating programs to help women in ways they are underrepresented encourages equality.
/r/MensRights06/07/21 03:02 PM
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The 'about' section of men's rights says mens rights is pro - equality. Do you feel they are lying because mens rights only cares about men? I don't. I think that's fine to say you are pro equality and only support one side. Because you are still supporting equality. But if ou are against gates saying they are pro equality, shouldn't you be against mens rights saying it too?
/r/MensRights06/07/21 01:38 PM
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His money is making the world a better and more equal place. Thats why it seems weird to be mad at him for it. Which is the tone I can't comprehend. Yes he chose a certain group to fight for. But that doesn't mean I don't want that group to be helped. I do. So I wish more people targeted male equality. But I'm not against steps towards female equality. That mentality is dangerous and not helpful.
/r/MensRights06/07/21 12:45 PM
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Your right. But is that a problem? Is it a problem that he's chosen women to help? It's still inching society closer to equality so doesn't that mean it's gender equality? If after 2.1 billion, the world is more gender equal. Doesn't that mean he's helping gender inequality?
/r/MensRights06/07/21 12:27 PM
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I see. So in your opinion. The gates foundation and mens rights groups don't actually care about equality because they've only chosen one side to push for. I guess that makes sense although I would argue BOTH want equality. Not neither. They just chose different inequalities to address.
/r/MensRights06/07/21 12:18 PM
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They were pretty open that they were only pushing for female equality. It's not like they tried to hide it. It was right in the blurb I posted. They are no more or less for equality than mens rights. They just chose to help females instead of men. I fail to see the problem.
/r/MensRights06/07/21 12:15 PM
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Right. So if a company donated 1 billion dollars today to male issues of equality, you would be against that? A billion dollars for shelters, the fight against circumcision, domestic violence awareness for men. A billion dollars for all those male causes so that men may actually be equal in society in those areas...and you would be against calling it equality because it's not giving any money to female issues?
/r/MensRights06/07/21 12:11 PM
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Do you think fictional stories that encourage women using men for financial means contribute to societies problems?
/r/MensRights06/07/21 11:56 AM
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Mens charity that only helps men achieve equality is okay. Women's charity that only helps women achieve equality...somehow not okay. Got it.
/r/MensRights06/07/21 11:37 AM
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Right. They are about FEMALE equality. And helping females in areas that they are disadvantaged. Just like mens rights is about males and helping men in areas men are disadvantaged. I don't understand the difference.
/r/MensRights06/07/21 11:30 AM
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So opening a mens shelter is unacceptable in your opinion because it only focuses on 50 percent of the population? Even though there is a desperate need for mens shelters in society because men don't have as much access to shelters?
/r/MensRights06/07/21 11:29 AM
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Women controlling their own sexuality is empowering. Women being mass produced and sold as sex by someone else is not That's the difference. It has nothing to do with 'who benefits' the difference is who controls. If a woman wants to dress slutty. More power to her. If your husband forces you to dress slutty, that's pretty objectifying. That's the difference. There's no reason to defend objectifying women. It's bad behaviour. Everyone agrees women shouldn't be treated like sex objects.
/r/MensRights06/07/21 11:28 AM
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How so? Do women not face gender barriers in employment in sub Sahara Africa? Because they do. So its about equalizing that.
/r/MensRights06/07/21 11:22 AM
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I broke down the donations in another comment. There are still countries that women face equality barriers. Thats what the gates foundation has targeted. Helping women that don't have access to family planning, the job market, or leadership positions. Unless you think women have more access than men to jobs and leadership positions in every country in the world...this is about equality. And obviously women don't have more access to jobs and leadership positions in every country in the world...
/r/MensRights06/07/21 11:21 AM
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"When broken down, the Gates Foundation says that $650 million of this commitment will go toward improving women's financial inclusion and reducing the barriers women face in the workplace and $1.4 billion will go toward increasing access to contraceptives and supporting various family planning organizations. The rest of the money, which includes a $100 million commitment over five years and a $230 million commitment over 10 years, will go toward dismantling systemic barriers women and girls fac…
/r/MensRights06/07/21 11:16 AM
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The gates foundation donated 2.1 billion dollars to help women. But I'm not a woman. So gates is a total scum bag for donating money to people that aren't like me.
/r/MensRights06/07/21 11:06 AM
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Objectification theory is the idea that objectification of women contributes to female issues. That's an obvious truth and doesn't need a rebuttal. Treating women like sex objects is obviously bad. Just like treating men like work horses with wallets is bad. Forcing traditional gender biases is bad for men and women. I don't see any reason to defend the sexual objectification of women, nor do I see any reason to defend the objectificition of men in society as workers and nothing more. Dehumanizi…
/r/MensRights06/07/21 10:59 AM
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I manage a big box store. It's competitive as all hell but we don't encourage taking advantage of handicapped people or old people... The ease in which reviews can spread in today's world really make that a gamble that isn't usually worth the payoff. I don't think people should normalize taking advantage of elderly people and handicapped people and say it's fine because everyone does it.
/r/MensRights05/07/21 07:21 PM
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What makes them feminists? The idea that everyone that did something bad is a feminist is no different than feminists saying every sexist is an MRA. Don't be like feminists.
/r/MensRights05/07/21 02:15 PM
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Yeah. Women bad.
/r/MensRights05/07/21 01:26 AM
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I'm defending humane treatment of accusers. As everyone should get.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 08:40 PM
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I'm not sure it's not made up. That's why Im not throwing insults at freeman or the accuser. Because I'm a decent human that isn't biased.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 08:27 PM
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Questioning someone is fine. Joking about their victimization and calling them liars or 'Karen's' is not okay. I can't wrap my head around why so many people are upset that I felt joking about sexual harassment and calling those coming forward names is unacceptable.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 07:09 PM
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Right. But we don't know. So we treat those coming forward with respect. Not joke about how they are lying and treat them disrespectful as some have done.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 06:44 PM
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So you believe that men coming forward with domestic violence allegations shouldn't get sympathy unless they can prove it? That doesn't seem shitty to you?
/r/MensRights04/07/21 06:38 PM
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How so? I'm 100 percent aware that it happens. Thats why accuser and accused should be treated respectfully until the truth is known. That's just being a decent human. I'm saying people should be decent humans. It's sad how much push back I'm getting on that.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 06:37 PM
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So you feel any victim of sexual harassment shouldn't be able to speak about the incident unless they can prove it? That would stop millions of real victims from reporting their crimes. Isn't that a problem?
/r/MensRights04/07/21 05:48 PM
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One woman said he kept trying to lift her skirt. Is that not sexual harassment? Is it okay to do that in the workplace so don't bother looking into it? Or should we respectfully look into these claims without calling the women names?
/r/MensRights04/07/21 04:37 PM
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I would. Because i know the truth. If I didn't know the truth, I'd treat both parties with respect. This isn't hard. You shouldn't push back SO hard on treat accusers with respect. Shouldn't all humans be treated with respect? Is respecting a woman so painful to you that you argue why we shouldn't have to treat these accusers with respect? Can you not see how sad that is?
/r/MensRights04/07/21 02:06 PM
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Yeah. How dare I say women coming forward should be treated with respect since we don't know what happened. Clearly I'm a troll for suggesting something so offensive as respecting women instead of calling the naked Karen liars.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 01:34 PM
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I've said repeatedly we don't know if he's guilty. And we can all have opinions. Mine is that you're defending attacking pekple that came forward with allegations because you have so many issues with women that you assume they are all lying without any evidence to support that. And that you are no different than the extreme feminists that think a men are guilty without proof.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 01:23 PM
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They might be lying Karen's. And he might be a chronic sexual assaulter. We don't know. So treating them like liars and treating him like he's guilty are inappropriate. Yet you're actively defending that behaviour.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 01:16 PM
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Right. But the redditor calling them naked Karen's that are lying doesn't know they are lying. He's just decided they are lying because of issues with women and then attacks their personality without knowing them at all. Then suggests they are naked for some reason. No one should be defending that behabiour. So why are you?
/r/MensRights04/07/21 01:06 PM
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No. How does that justify calling them naked Karen's that are lying? We don't know what happened so insulting them is not acceptable. No victims should be afraid of the reaction to coming forward and attacking people for coming forward does exactly that. I'm not saying he's guilty. I'm saying treat the women coming forward with respect.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 01:00 PM
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That's a fair interpretation of what it could have been. But I don't see how that relates to the very serious reports against him. This women misconstrued an action so attack all his accusers? Why?
/r/MensRights04/07/21 12:55 PM
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I call out bad behaviour because the good mens rights activists need to do that. He seems to be saying he wants to be physically next to her. I can't think of any reason to say that if it isn't sexual. Especially if as she said, there were other suggestive comments to give it more context. I don't know if Morgan freeman harassed these women. But I know attacking people for saying he did is disgusting behaviour. Would you be okay with men being accused of 'liking it' when reporting sexual harassm…
/r/MensRights04/07/21 12:50 PM
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No. He made inappropriate comments. What does that have to do with the other women that had more serious allegations?
/r/MensRights04/07/21 12:43 PM
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He called them 8 'naked Karen's with pink hair teaming up to fuck someone over'. It seems like he's very comfortable assuming these women are guilty of lying. Are they not innocent until proven guilty? No one should be defending someone attacking people for coming forward with harassment complaints. That behaviour is appalling. You don't attack someone for speaking out when you have no idea what happened.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 12:35 PM
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What are you basing that on? Do you know who thr women are? Or do you just assume all sexual harassment claims are made up?
/r/MensRights04/07/21 12:02 PM
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Perhaps. One woman said he was always asking about her underwear and trying to lift her skirt. No one should have to put up with that in a workplace and people shouldn't dismiss it as 'cheeky' instead of sexual harassment.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 12:00 PM
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8 women have reported Morgan freeman making inappropriate comments and touching people inappropriately. Do you think they are all lying? Sexual harassment of men and women IS a big deal and reports of sexual harassment shouldn't just be ignored or joked about sarcastically. Edit: Mens rights isn't about assuming women are lying and dismissing sexual harassment complaints. This post and the reactions to my comments are embarrassing. This is why there is a reputation of being anti women in groups …
/r/MensRights04/07/21 11:38 AM
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To be fair, they are attacking mens rights activists. Not men. Just like attacking feminism doesn't equate to attacking women.
/r/MensRights04/07/21 11:23 AM
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How do you feel making light of violent crime will help the mens rights movement? This is in bad taste and this should be deleted immediately.
/r/MensRights03/07/21 07:01 PM
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I find the big difference is the level of anger. Mens lib tries to focus on discussion, feelings, and get more men talking. This sub tends to focus on how shitty life is for men and how gyocentric the world is. How men are becoming second class citizens in a world that hates them. I also find this sub has more 'rage porn' where people just post things to make everyone angry. Women that falsely accused someone. Women that killed a man. Women that said something shitty on another subreddit. Mensli…
/r/MensRights03/07/21 10:52 AM
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Do you think that men will just pee on buildings if they remove these urinals? That women are able to control themselves and make it to a bathroom so things are fine now but if they remove these urinals, men are somehow incapable and will therefore pee wherever they want making shop doorways smell? Men are just as capable as women at acceptable societal behaviour. There's no reason to think removing these toilets will make men unable to behave in public.
/r/MensRights03/07/21 10:38 AM
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Comparing a man that drugs and rapes an unconscious girl to a hungry child stealing food is some messed up stuff. This is dangerously close to the idea that sexual assault just wouldn't happen of women put out more.
/r/MensRights03/07/21 10:31 AM
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I think you have to be for gender quotas or against them. Being for them when they help your gender and against them when they help the other gender doesn't make sense.
/r/MensRights02/07/21 06:27 PM
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What makes you think sexist teachers will stop being sexist just because gender quotas are removed? And if that IS the case, shouldn't you be supportive of removing gender quotas since it will make teachers stop being sexist towards male students?
/r/MensRights02/07/21 03:35 PM
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Yes. That's true. But do you think that will change enough for men to dominate upon removing gender quotas Or do you think we should keep the quotas so that men can benefit from affirmative action?
/r/MensRights02/07/21 03:32 PM
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The article posted said women had the better marks. And men were being let in with lower marks to meet quotas. "Because more female than male applicants had top marks, the consequence has been that men have been give priority due to a clause in Sweden’s current higher education laws stipulating that gender quotas should be used to choose between applicants of otherwise equal merit."
/r/MensRights02/07/21 03:27 PM
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Why do you think men will dominate again?
/r/MensRights02/07/21 03:12 PM
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What did you find inappropriate in the article? Seemed to me they made it very very clear that this is not okay. The misogyny is when Brown brags about it like it's an acceptable accomplishment. That is NOT OKAY and only encourages young girls and boys to act similarly. Article made it clear what this girl did was not okay. Chris brown didn't. That's messed up. "Brown is not fully aware of what happened to him, nor is he aware of the message he perpetuates when he tells this story. It’d be nice …
/r/MensRights02/07/21 03:11 PM
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Right, but once removing them, only merit will matter. That's what it should be. If women continue to dominate, it means they were stronger candidates. If men dominate, it means men were better candidates. Merit based education is what it should be. No reason to be upset and say men need to benefit from affirmative action for it to be fair.
/r/MensRights02/07/21 03:00 PM
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You think men and women choose different jobs because of misandry? You don't think men and women naturally gravitate towards certain fields in an equal setting? What makes you think its misandry that causes people to choose their occupation?
/r/MensRights02/07/21 02:49 PM
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I'm surprised to find people supporting gender quotas here. I was under the impression that most thought gender quotas were wrong. Now sweden wants to remove them and people are upset.
/r/MensRights02/07/21 02:45 PM
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Good. Sweden is a very equal society and so there's no reason for gender quotas. If women make up 60 percent of the applicants, they'll be 60 percent of the class.if men make up 70 percent in another field, they'll make up 70 percent of the class. Gender quotas make sense when one group is at a disadvantage. But there's no evidence to suggest that is true for either gender in Sweden.
/r/MensRights02/07/21 01:39 PM
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Sounds like you should be paid more. Though if they do a different job than you, what does their pay matter? Do you want them to be paid less just to make your pay feel more 'fair'? You should demand a raise. Not be mad at someone else for their salary. In fighting among workers is how rich people stay at the top.
/r/MensRights02/07/21 02:19 AM
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I assume cosby guilty because after looking at the evidence, he was convicted guilty. Innocent until proven guilty. Not innocent AFTER proven guilty. The threat to the movement is the people that defend rapists just because they are men.
/r/MensRights02/07/21 12:39 AM
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The jury of 12 that convicted him know the facts better than anyone. They said he was guilty. You think you know more than the jury? Really?
/r/MensRights02/07/21 12:14 AM
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Right. He was only convicted because the jury was allowed to look at the evidence. What a conspiracy!
/r/MensRights01/07/21 07:30 PM
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Well. Go tell the jury of 12 that convicted him they're under arrest for false allegations. Lol.
/r/MensRights01/07/21 07:01 PM
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If you think the M in MRA means blindly supporting men regardless of their obvious guilt, you are a hindrance to the movement and no different than the feminazis that will defend women's actions no matter what.
/r/MensRights01/07/21 05:44 PM
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Lol. Who exactly am I bigoted towards? And what cause am I a zealot for? I just think women's literacy programs in India are good. Seems like a pretty mundane opinion to be a bigot and a zealot. I understand your position. You are insecure because I mentioned an issue faced by females and that upsets you.
/r/MensRights01/07/21 05:04 PM
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Nah. As soon as you start saying 'women not being taught how to read may not be a problem' you lose a lot of credibility. Kind of just seems you want to minimize female issues so you feel better for some reason.
/r/MensRights01/07/21 04:52 PM
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If the barrier to women learning to read ISNT cultural, it would mean it's inherent. That women are just worse at learning to read. Something not seen in ANY society that totes equality. So it's obviously cultural.
/r/MensRights01/07/21 04:04 PM
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There are exactly 0 acceptable reasons for there to be such a massive gap in literacy rates in a country. I don't understand why you're being so combative just because I think women's rights are important and they should be separated from feminism. I think that's something all MRAs agree with. No one is against women's right to learn how to read so there's no reason to try and justify such a massive gap.
/r/MensRights01/07/21 02:36 PM
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I think ANYONE not knowing how to read is a problem. It really limits your access to independence and opportunity. Do you think its possible that millions of people not being able to read may not need to be addressed?
/r/MensRights01/07/21 02:15 PM
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I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. You're saying you believe the statistic but you don't think it's a big deal? Or it's more feminist lies? And the west has 99 percent literwcy rates. The gap between men and women is almost 0.
/r/MensRights01/07/21 02:04 PM
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Shouldn't any one who wants a full time job be able to get one? Or do you feel 100 percent of men and 50 percent of women would be a fair balance in full time positions and that's the target society should aim for?
/r/MensRights01/07/21 12:32 PM
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I read a statistic that female literacy rates in India are 70 percent and male literacy rates are 85 percent. That's a huge gap. If that's a real statistic, it should be addressed and women's literacy programs would be an excellent initiative. But is that a feminists statistic? Or a women's rights statistic?
/r/MensRights01/07/21 12:30 PM
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But how do you know when a statistic is a feminist statistic versus a standard women's rights statistic? Obviously feminism is a nightmare but I see no issues with women's rights in general. So I'm all for ignoring one of those groups statistics but not the other.
/r/MensRights01/07/21 12:08 PM
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In America, 90 percent of men have full time jobs. 75 percent of women have full time jobs. It's pretty obvious employers are favoring women and that's why women have all the full time jobs.
/r/MensRights01/07/21 12:06 PM
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This an old man that admitted to getting qualudes to give them to women and have sex with them. A man whose lawyer told him not to answer the question 'have you ever given these young women the qualudes without them knowing' A man who multiple women said he gave them qualudes and then had sex with them. So if he's not a full blown rapist, he's a man that gives women drugs knowing that they'll consent to things they would normally not consent to. Which makes him a complete piece of shit. And I'd …
/r/MensRights01/07/21 01:57 AM
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Nope. He also said he gave a woman benadryl and lied about what it was. He drugs and rapes women. Its as clear as day. You're fighting a losing battle man. Give it up.
/r/MensRights30/06/21 11:12 PM
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Right. He got a prescription for qualudes with the intent to give them to young women to have sex with them...and countless young women came forward saying they were drugged. And it's a coincidence. Wow. You're really adamant about defending an admitted rapist. That's....weird.
/r/MensRights30/06/21 10:48 PM
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https://www.cnn.com/2015/07/07/us/bill-cosby-quaaludes-sexual-assault-allegations/index.html
/r/MensRights30/06/21 10:39 PM
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I get it. Feminists tricked him into admitting he did it and explaining in detail how he did it. Lol.
/r/MensRights30/06/21 10:32 PM
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Do only feminists want rapists in jail? Or is there another reason you think they are a feminist?
/r/MensRights30/06/21 10:20 PM
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How do you figure the prosecutor was a feminist? Do you even know who the prosecutor was? This seems like a desperate reach to complain about feminism. Feminism does enough wrong. You don't need to concoct things and blame feminism for it. Dude raped a girl. I'd try to put him in jail too if I had the chance. Doesn't make me a feminist.
/r/MensRights30/06/21 10:07 PM
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So he's still guilty of drugging and raping someone. Except he made a deal that meant he couldn't be charged? What do you offer the feds in exchange for not being charged with drugging and raping someone? It better have been good....
/r/MensRights30/06/21 06:25 PM
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You may feel she deserved this. Thats fine. But tabloids still shouldn't be allowed to post intimate photos of people without their consent. Even if you really really don't like them.
/r/MensRights30/06/21 01:48 PM
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Tough to say. I would just watch out for unnecessarily gendered statements. 'Men tend to...' or 'women usually...' this would suggest gender is a key part of the therapists approach. Most therapists want to help. But if their approach isn't what you are looking for, I'd just be open and honest about why and ask them if they could reccomend someone better for you based on your needs. I would just say feminist has such a broad interpretation that a therapist saying they are a feminist means very l…
/r/MensRights30/06/21 01:24 PM
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They posted pictures of her naked without her consent. That kind of seems like a victim to me. I think its pretty shitty that a tabloid can post intimate photos of someone without their consent. If someone did that to me or my spouse, I'd be pretty damn pissed off.
/r/MensRights30/06/21 12:55 PM
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No. It's impossible to answer that question. No one has a list of anti feminist therapists. My point is them being feminists doesn't mean they are crazed feminists that will blame everything on the patriarchy. Those are the people to avoid.
/r/MensRights30/06/21 12:13 PM
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The majority of the population feels 'practicing from a feminist perspective' just means 'practicing from a perspective that men and women are equal'. Not everyone has done the in depth research on the problems with feminism and the details about the theoretical approaches. A therapist saying they are a feminist doesn't mean they will blame everything on the patriarchy. It may just mean they believe in equality and haven't thought about it any deeper than that.
/r/MensRights30/06/21 11:28 AM
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Clearly domestic violence goes both ways. 80 percent of domestic violence murders are committed by men but 20 percent of domestic violence murders are committed by women and that's far more than most people would assume. https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/domestic-violence/family-domestic-sexual-violence-in-australia-2018/summary
/r/MensRights30/06/21 11:13 AM
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The fact that you think men being 80 percent of suicides is 'men winning' speaks volumes. You've decided it's a competition to see who suffers more and you even use the term 'winning' for men ending their lives at higher rates.
/r/MensRights29/06/21 02:05 AM
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And feminists would ask why you associate with the MRA label when the movement is known to be anti women. It may be time to acknowledge that neither movement is inherently bad. There are just good and bad people within each group.
/r/MensRights28/06/21 02:10 PM
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Yeah. A stroke is considered a natural cause.
/r/MensRights28/06/21 01:23 PM
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No. He killed three women. He INJURED 5 other women. And one child. This was a shameless attack that seemed to target women specifically and reports suggest it was terrorism related. Terribly sad. No one should be attacked in the streets like that just for existing.
/r/MensRights28/06/21 12:47 PM
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I find the whole competition thing strange. Like suffering is a measurable item and people need to prove men suffer more to support men. Comparing natural causes to murder and saying natural causes kills way more people just seems like an attempt to downplay murder. 13000 men die of strokes in isreal a year. 25 women will be killed by their domestic partner. It does 'swamp' the amount of women killed but why draw the comparison? What does it serve to prove?
/r/MensRights28/06/21 11:41 AM
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Downvoted to hell but waking up to read all these comments and thats exactly what happened. People take a statistic out of context and then scream about how victimized they are. It's kind of weird.
/r/MensRights28/06/21 11:29 AM
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Wait. You think minorities are the most privileged group and white people are the most oppressed? That's an interesting perspective that runs counter to almost everything you see. What do you feel makes minorities privileged?
/r/MensRights28/06/21 11:22 AM
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Seems dozens of women accused him of predatory behaviour and offering mentorship in exchange for sex. That's definitely scum bag behaviour but it isn't illegal. But it would be enough for me to not want him working for my company though.
/r/MensRights28/06/21 02:20 AM
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This was taken from a website that was combating the myth that women are less likely to have strokes. You can read with context here. https://www.marchofdimes.ca/en-ca/aboutus/newsroom/whatsnew/Pages/Stroke-Myths-and-Facts.aspx
/r/MensRights28/06/21 01:27 AM
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Is that true though? Is dealing with women really the same as putting a loaded weapon to your head and pulling the trigger? Most men will never have false allegations levied against them and most women will never falsely accused someone of a crime. There's no reason to be over dramatic. All both genders can do is try to avoid circumstances in which victimization is more likely. Spending your life terrified is exactly like these feminists that want men to cross the street because they are afraid …
/r/MensRights27/06/21 01:03 PM
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What argument? That we don't know what happened so he shouldn't be fired for allegations? I think we all agree with that. And that he's owed a reason for his dismissal? And that assuming someone's guilt is inappropriate? Be it his guilt or hers. Those aren't controversial takes .
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/21 11:50 AM
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Correct. Seems like one person tripling down that it's the man's fault only. That's effing weird.
/r/MensRights27/06/21 11:16 AM
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Not really. because you can spread your legs for safe sex. Ejaculating into a woman isn't safe sex. Condoms are a man's best friend for a multitude of reasons.
/r/MensRights27/06/21 10:59 AM
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Yikes. Didn't see that one. Although 'don't ejaculate in a girl that you don't want to get pregnant' isn't terrible advice...
/r/MensRights27/06/21 10:56 AM
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It's unlikely we ever know exactly what happened between Chris and the women in question. What I find interesting is how he lost his job without any guilty verdict. That said, It's proven that he was at company sponsored events, buying rounds, and hitting on women. Chris admits to that. So was he fired for sexual harassment without a guilty verdict? Fired for hitting on multiple women at company sponsored events? Fired for being a liability in regards to sexual prowess? He's not guilty of sexual…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/21 10:54 AM
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I didn't see a single comment suggesting it was completely his fault that she got pregnant. Which comments bothered you? They all seemed pretty supportive to me.
/r/MensRights27/06/21 10:37 AM
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Im not comfortable with someone going to jail unless they are proven guilty. This goes for those accused of rape or making false allegations.
/r/MensRights26/06/21 07:45 PM
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Well, the police must prove it. Not the person making the accusation. It's not their job to gather evidence like DNA. And if that's that case, the person accusing someone of a false allegation must prove it as well. So in this case, the man must prove that she lied. Which is tough to prove.
/r/MensRights26/06/21 07:18 PM
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Right. But an accuser has never been formally charged with anything and shouldn't they also be considered innocent? That's the problem. That neither side can prove anything.
/r/MensRights26/06/21 06:30 PM
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Right. So this service would help people countersue after being proven innocent? Isn't it a little late to help them at that point?
/r/MensRights26/06/21 06:20 PM
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How would you stop actual rapists from using that service to countersue people they raped?
/r/MensRights26/06/21 06:14 PM
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Feminists can twist anything to be oppressive to women. They've clearly twisted suicide method into showing how women are the victims in society. How pathetic. Twisting suicide methods to make your gender look more like the victim is a shameless feminist tactic to make women feel even more victimized by suicide. It would be like saying "men who commit suicide value themselves so little they don't even care about the state of their body anymore." In an attempt to make suicide methods prove men ar…
/r/MensRights26/06/21 11:00 AM
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No. I'm taking issue with an inflammatory title that makes the mens rights movement look bad. Many readers stop at the title. More services for men WOULD reduce domestic violence rates. And if this article was written with ANY mind for tone at all, it could have been very positive. But instead, it was written in a way attempting to blame women for domestic violence. Not a lack of services. Thats my issue. Lack of services is a positive tone that asks for help for men. Blaming women is a negative…
/r/MensRights25/06/21 12:56 PM
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Right. So say 'more services for men could reduce domestic violence rates' Same sentiment...but not disgusting victim blaming. There's no reason to mimic exactly what extreme feminists do.
/r/MensRights25/06/21 12:43 PM
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Women’s deaths in DV are because women perpetrate DV So you don't feel that sentence is blaming women for women being murdered? Because it specifically is blaming women for women being murdered....
/r/MensRights25/06/21 12:41 PM
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Right. But before we gave women those better options, are you comfortable saying its mens fault they were being killed by their wives? When a woman stabs her husband to death, are you comfortable saying 'violence was probably reciprocal so its really his fault she stabbed him' No. Because that's disgusting to say about someone that was callously murdered. So it shouldn't be done the other way either.
/r/MensRights25/06/21 12:37 PM
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Women shouldn't hit men. I'm quite comfortable saying that as it's common sense. But blaming women for being killed by their partners is a LONG way from 'don't hit men'. Excusing murder as consequences rather than a choice just makes people feel violence is an acceptable response. It isn't. Ever. If your wife hits you, leave. Don't murder her. And don't try to justify murdering her because 'she started it so its her fault that I choked her to death'. This mentality is poison and it will only mak…
/r/MensRights25/06/21 12:29 PM
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Right. But killing someone because you think the divorce laws are going to cost you too much money is no different than killing someone because you wanted their wallet and I see no reason to justify that behaviour as being a product of your environment. When a man chooses to murder his wife. It is his fault. Not hers. And this headline says exactly the opposite. Victim blaming women that have been killed by their husband's and saying it was their fault is disgusting. I don't know why people are …
/r/MensRights25/06/21 12:12 PM
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Looking forward to the downvotes here... but there is nothing here to refute hundreds and hundreds of peer reviewed studies discussing men being more prone to violence than women. This gap in violence between men and women is seen across all countries, all races, and all religions. It would take a lot of research to suggest that this gap doesn't exist when it's been proven so many times across so many cultures. Men aren't monsters. And most men detest violence. But trying to say the sexes are eq…
/r/MensRights25/06/21 11:10 AM
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Men are still put into situations where murder becomes their best option Murder is NEVER your best option. And trying to tell people out there that it is is disgusting. Attempting to justify the act of killing a woman as 'your best option' is not about men's rights. That's just attempting to condone / justify violence against women and that is not okay. Women's deaths in domestic violence incidents are caused by the man that killed them. Mens deaths in domestic violence incidents are caused by t…
/r/MensRights25/06/21 10:33 AM
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So to be clear, if you were on the panel when women were asking for the right to vote... you would have denied that request? That's... crazy.
/r/MensRights24/06/21 07:54 PM
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You think women wanting to be able to vote was an act of supremacy? That doesn't seem a little crazy to most people? Do you think men restricting the right of women to vote was also an act of supremacy? Or is it just the feminists that wanted to vote that are supremacists? Women fighting for the right to vote was when feminism was good. There's no reason to jump through mental hoops to make it look bad.
/r/MensRights24/06/21 12:42 PM
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This feminist article is supporting men using sexual assault services. The provincial coordinator of the ontario network of sexual assault/ domestic violence co authored this study of male support seekers and has been vocal about how men need to be supported so that they understand they can come forward too. Definitely progress to see feminists so openly supporting male victims. Article
/r/MensRights24/06/21 04:16 AM
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Right. But being mad at feminism doesn't change the duluth model. Being mad at feminism doesn't change NOW's position. Being mad at feminism doesn't make feminist groups campaign less. Being mad at feminism, doesn't help anyone. Educating people that men suffer from domestic violence helps men. Education people that the duluth model is a flawed approach to interpersonal violence helps men. Education people that mens charities are underfunded and men are left without resources helps people. None …
/r/MensRights23/06/21 05:28 PM
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The 'damage' in this case being women's groups getting more funding. But doesn't that mean men need to lobby for women to get less so men can have more? You can see how that's a disaster waiting to happen right? Complaining about feminism does nothing. Having positive conversations about male issues without resorting to demonizing the massive population that identify as feminists is what helps. People don't feel men have problems. And as soon as 'feminism is the reason men have problems' comes u…
/r/MensRights23/06/21 04:38 PM
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How will that help? How will telling feminists that feminism is evil help any men? Even if you know your stuff and convince thousands of people that feminism isn't what it used to be...what do men gain and which men will that help?
/r/MensRights23/06/21 01:50 PM
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The are countless examples of women being powerful on their own merit in movie and TV.
/r/MensRights23/06/21 11:22 AM
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Right. If you're a girl and you like learning survival and camping skills, you can join boy scouts. But if you're a boy, and you like being used by a million dollar industry to sell cookies without pay while somehow avoiding child labour laws...you still can't join the girl scouts.
/r/MensRights23/06/21 11:17 AM
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This is a satire website. This isn't real.
/r/MensRights22/06/21 07:32 PM
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Lol. Go ask 1000 people if they are feminists and if they want to exterminate men. 500 say they are feminists and 0 want to exterminate men. Stop living in fear man. It'll only make your life harder. Most people are pretty chill.
/r/MensRights22/06/21 07:18 PM
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No. It's nazi ideology is obviously a contributing factor. But judging all Germans as nazis is inappropriate. Just like judging all feminists as monsters is inappropriate. How is it so difficult for you to accept that judging people is wrong. Did you think everyone that called themselves a nazi in 1930s Germany should be convicted of war crimes? No. And neither should feminists. Relax man, you'll live longer. So much hate for a group that doesn't affect your life at all can't be healthy.
/r/MensRights22/06/21 06:52 PM
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I honestly don't believe 61 percent of women think all men are rapist time bomb. I think that's crazy.
/r/MensRights22/06/21 05:46 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/07/07/61-of-u-s-women-say-feminist-describes-them-well-many-see-feminism-as-empowering-polarizing/ You think 61 percent of American women think you're a rapist time bomb? Could 100 million women be wrong?
/r/MensRights22/06/21 05:41 PM
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The majority if America identifies as feminist. You think they all feel men aren't worth of respect? I doubt it. Many do. And they suck. But most are normal people. Not super villains to be feared.
/r/MensRights22/06/21 05:36 PM
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Feminists. If they think our society is a full fledged patriarchy. If they argue that there are patriarchal aspects to our society, that has some merit.
/r/MensRights22/06/21 05:31 PM
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I'm completely against saying kill all men and anyone doing it is trash. What are you talking about?
/r/MensRights22/06/21 05:30 PM
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If you feel there are good nazis and good kkk that's on you. I don't. But I feel there are good feminists.
/r/MensRights22/06/21 05:16 PM
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I'm fine blaming white supremacists for radicalizing people. But white supremacists aren't a mixed bag of good and bad people. Self identified feminists are. There are many feminists teaching wkmen to read in their world countries or supporting women's right to choose. Comparing them to white supremacists is again an exaggerated attempt to create hate without reason. You seem to have real issues with feminists and that's fine. But no one should be lumped in with hateful people when the majority …
/r/MensRights22/06/21 04:32 PM
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Patriarchy is a societal system in which power, money, and status are passed down from male to male nearly exclusively. Thats not a conspiracy. That has existed in many societies historically. Luckily, most societies have abandoned such practices thanks to women proving their capability in societal efforts. Patriarchy as a theory to explain why men do bad things is a reach to me. At least in most cases. But then again, blaming feminism for women's bad behaviour seems like a reach to me too.
/r/MensRights22/06/21 04:20 PM
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Trying to blame feminism for some crazy woman reminds me so much of feminism Trying to blame the patriarchy every time a man does something bad. People are so desperate for their 'side' to look better that they do these mental gymnastics to explain why the entire group is to be blamed and not just the individual. Feminists were so quick to blame mens rights for Elliot Rodgers and it was rightfully scoffed at. But then immediately repeated here when a woman does something heinous. Neither feminis…
/r/MensRights22/06/21 03:41 PM
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What? No one supports infanticide. It's a crime. I don't understand what you are saying.
/r/MensRights22/06/21 03:05 PM
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Which feminist has said they don't want mothers to be charged with infanticide? Do they actually think that? I think 99 percent of the population agrees infanticide should be punishable. And of those 99 percent, the majority of them are self proclaimed feminists. I get it. Hyperbole sells. Say feminists are baby murderers and we can all enjoy 2 minutes of hate for a common enemy. But at a certain point, the exaggeration starts to look like craziness.
/r/MensRights22/06/21 02:42 PM
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This is just another he said / she said. Neither of them will be able to prove how that woman got hurt. That said, I don't think it's a false allegation just because a woman with a bloody nose can't prove someone hit her. That's a very difficult thing to prove. Assuming she's lying is just as bad as assuming she's telling the truth. No one knows except those two.
/r/MensRights22/06/21 11:43 AM
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Downvoted because you said most women aren't murderers. That's.... weird.
/r/MensRights22/06/21 11:30 AM
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Thats what her lawyer said. It's his job to make her look innocent.
/r/MensRights22/06/21 11:28 AM
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That was her lawyer. That's literally the lawyers job...
/r/MensRights22/06/21 11:27 AM
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I really don't think feminists want murdered babies. I don't think I can speak for feminists...but that seems kind of crazy that you think the millions of people that identify as feminists are okay with child murder.
/r/MensRights22/06/21 11:24 AM
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Communication is step one. People need to better understand male issues without being lumped in with misogyny or counter productive attacks on feminism. When people think you're against feminism, the conversation tends to be dismissed as the ramblings of someone that's against equality. I think most people support mens issues. Suicide, drug use mental illness, emotional abuse. All affect men and are all issues most people care about. But there's very few mediums that deliver and discuss these is…
/r/MensRights21/06/21 08:38 PM
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Tweet was 7 years ago and people are still on her about it. If she wanted notoriety, she found it.
/r/MensRights21/06/21 08:17 PM
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I don't know. It just seems odd to assume it. It'd like assuming some school shooter is an MRA because yiu don't like MRAs. It's dumb.
/r/MensRights21/06/21 05:45 PM
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What does this have to do with feminism? It's female nurses that are fighting this so they can have more access to jobs.
/r/MensRights21/06/21 03:55 PM
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Right. So I guess both should stop or neither. My preference is both but I guess everyone has their own opinion.
/r/MensRights20/06/21 05:18 PM
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One of the biggest complaints I have about some feminist spaces, is their constant generalizing of men. 'Men aren't good fathers' or 'men don't care about violence against women'. These generalizations make all men feel like they aren't welcome in feminist spaces. That said, generalizations that 'women think everything men do is about them' is also a generalization that makes women feel shitty. Even if they aren't like that. Both should be stopped.
/r/MensRights20/06/21 04:48 PM
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How do you know something is he said / she said until you investigate? It's only he said/ she said if no evidence can be found which requires you to look for evidence.
/r/MensRights20/06/21 12:40 PM
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Pictures from the day of the incident found bruising on her neck consistent with the story that she was choked. They couldn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it wasn't self defense. Thats why it was downgraded from murder to manslaughter and she's only doing 10 years in prison. I dont think that's the same as 'getting away with murder'. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9596549/Mother-murder-conviction-stabbing-boyfriend-heart-reduced-manslaughter.html
/r/MensRights20/06/21 11:11 AM
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Saying 95 percent of allegations are false is just as biased and illogical as saying 95 percent are true. It saddens me that so many people hate feminism only to be exactly the same as feminists.
/r/MensRights20/06/21 01:12 AM
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Rape and sexual assault should be reported. Even if you have no evidence it's better to report it as police may establish a pattern. But many don't want to talk about their victimization and know that it is unlikely someone faces justice anyway.
/r/MensRights19/06/21 11:17 PM
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That's just a way to dismiss any problem. Why would you want to dismiss misogyny as not a big problem? Thays exactly what feminists do when people discuss male issues. You might as well be picketing with a sign that says 'misandry annoys, misogyny kills'.
/r/MensRights19/06/21 12:33 PM
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It kind of seems like you don't know anything about Saudi Arabia. You are just blindly denying misogyny exists there for some reason. Women got the right to drive a car 5 years ago, be out by themselves 3 years ago, travel without a male 3 years ago. Misogyny in Saudi Arabia is very real. I'm sure poor men are treated bad too. They usually are. But that doesn't make it any less misogynistic.
/r/MensRights19/06/21 12:12 PM
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Women got the right to travel without men and get passports less than 2 years ago in Saudi Arabia. They still have to limit time spent with men that aren't their husband and have lots of restrictions on them in public spaces about behaviour. Women are also 2.5 times more likely to be illiterate and don't have access to nearly the same number of jobs men do. There are class problems. But ignoring or downplaying the gender problems in Saudi Arabia doesn't help anyone.
/r/MensRights19/06/21 11:25 AM
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Breaking and entering aren't 'words'. If someone broke into your house and demanded sex from your wife, you wouldn't hit them? For real?
/r/MensRights18/06/21 04:38 PM
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"Prosecutors accept the majority of Matutsa’s version of events: that she was seated alone at her fireplace at home when Tsuro, who she had no prior relationship with, entered the home and demanded sex." That's a good enough reason for me to hit a dude with a piece of firewood... I don't see why this needs to be investigated if prosecutors accept that version of events.
/r/MensRights18/06/21 02:40 PM
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We're discussing two different things. I'm saying many men DONT want to go to college. You're saying men want to go to college but can't get it. The 66/33 split of females to males doesn't suggest which is the case and I'm assuming the lower male rates are due to lack of interest. You're assuming men want to be in college but don't get accepted. Do you have any articles to suggest which is the case? Do men want to go less? Or get accepted less? I read this which assumed it was based on men not a…
/r/MensRights17/06/21 01:01 PM
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Like this?
/r/MensRights17/06/21 12:40 PM
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You clearly have little to no respect for the trades. That's unfortunate. I know lots of men that chose that path and they've been happy since. Many men choose not to pursue college. They shouldn't be made to feel they failed or a system failed them because of it.
/r/MensRights17/06/21 12:35 PM
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Do you tell men afraid of false allegations that it's unlikely and their fears are bull shit? There's nothing wrong with being afraid of having your life ruined or your body ravaged just because it's unlikely.
/r/MensRights17/06/21 12:07 PM
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What about the idea that men can make good money in trades and women are less interested in trades? Wouldn't that explain some of the gap as well? A plumber will make twice what a psychology degree will get you. Why pay 50 thousand for a psychology degree? I don't consider less men in university a problem unless there are men trying to get into university and not succeeding. And I'm not sure that's the case.
/r/MensRights17/06/21 12:03 PM
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Right. Which is why Society is carried by men Seems like a poor statement.
/r/MensRights16/06/21 02:07 PM
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Is construction work any more or less important to society than teaching or nursing? I'd say no. Which is why I say both genders carry society. Not just men.
/r/MensRights16/06/21 12:54 PM
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Nimco Ali (the author) is the co-founder and CEO of The Five Foundation, the global partnership to end female genital mutilation (FGM). Diminishing her work doesn't really make sense because everyone can agree that female (and many agree male) genital mutilation shouldn't be tolerated.
/r/MensRights16/06/21 11:16 AM
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Society is carried by both genders. Theres no reason to respond to sexism with more sexism. Saying women don't contribute to society is just as sexist as saying the recovery from the pandemic should be centered around women.
/r/MensRights16/06/21 11:04 AM
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The article says nothing about an all female world.
/r/MensRights16/06/21 11:01 AM
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The application of this law is a big deal so I see no reason to downvote you. It very well could be used to discourage reporting rapes. It seems the overall spirit of the law serves to encourage victims to come forward (like compensation for those victimized) so it seems to be a step in the right direction. We will just have to hope that it is applied well and without bias.
/r/MensRights15/06/21 03:46 PM
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A lot of people think this can group can be a bit extreme so there's a bad reputation in other subs. Like when someone says they are a feminist, and they are immediately compared to a nazi.
/r/MensRights15/06/21 11:33 AM
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Definitely. Botswana has one of the highest rape rates in the world so they are looking to enhance penalties for rape, punish false accusations when proven beyond a reasonable doubt, and compensate victims of sexual offenses. This bill has received support from feminist movements such as WAR (women against rape) as well.
/r/MensRights15/06/21 11:11 AM
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He'd still be out the money if he didn't embarass her. It wasn't her fault. But I guess we are willing to defend doing mean things to children that haven't done anything wrong because child support is poorly done.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:33 PM
-29

Right. He didn't alienate her. He just taunted her. That's so much better... It's sad that people are trying to defend this. I would be mortified at 18 if my dad was airing dirty laundry out of spite. And doing it as publicly as possible? For real?
/r/MensRights14/06/21 10:44 PM
-1

I guess the child or the adult had to be the bigger person. Unfortunately, it ended up being the child after her own father purposefully embarrassed her in front of all her neighbour's.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 09:37 PM
-26

I don't understand. Which women? And how does that justify anything?
/r/MensRights14/06/21 08:41 PM
-46

Adults don't get to use 'she started it' to excuse their bad behaviour.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 08:20 PM
-49

Making a spectacle like this that your daughter can see is sad and shouldn't be encouraged. This girl is made to feel as though she has been a burden because her father had to pay child support. Kids shouldn't be in the middle of your petty squabbles and making a scene in front of your child about how inconvenient she was is just pathetic. Screw this guy. You can protest child support payments in ways that don't alienate your child.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 07:18 PM
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I'm I'm for promoting mens issues by discussing suicide issues from a male perspective. Many studies should be male or female focused and authors shouldn't be accused of dismissing the other gender when writing them. Which is why I don't think posts like this one are helpful.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 01:48 PM
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The guardian wrote a great article about male suicide rates during the pandemic. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/sep/01/male-suicide-rate-england-wales-covid-19 If this was posted on a feminist sub saying 'I guess no one cares about women' I think we all agree it would be stupid. Mens rights is about helping men. Not dismissing female problems as insignificant cries for attention.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 01:38 PM
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True. But the numbers were based on last year's numbers. Men and women had that difference last year too. So the increase is a big deal that should be discussed.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 01:06 PM
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Why is it a competition to see who has it worse? If 50 percent more girls are ending up in the hospital due to lockdowns, people need to be aware. That's a huge increase. Who has it worse doesn't matter. Helping people is what matters.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 01:05 PM
-8

Typical he said / she said. Feminists will all assume he's guilty. Misogynists will all assume she's a liar. Intelligent people realize we will never know what happened.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 12:33 PM
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I don't understand. So you think the 50 percent in increased hospitalizations shouldn't be discussed because men are more likely to use more sure methods? No one is saying the female problem is worse than the male problem. It's not a competition and the article said nothing of the sort. The article is saying that there's been a large increase in female attempts and that is something that parents, friends, family members should all be aware of during these lockdowns. Trying to twist that into 'no…
/r/MensRights14/06/21 12:14 PM
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"Among the adolescent girls aged 12-17 years, the average weekly visits to the emergency department for suspected suicide attempts from February 2021 to March 2021 was 50.6% higher than the same period the year before, according to the CDC analysis. Boys were far less likely to show suicidal tendencies during the same time period; the number of emergency department visits for suicide attempts rose by 3.7% for males." When hospitalizations go up by 50 percent for one gender and 4 percent for the …
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:41 AM
-6

You're really going out of your way to find things to be offended about. Prize money is equal? Calculate hours worked so you can still be offended. Yikes.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:24 AM
-8

How so? For every woman that has sex with a man, a man has sex with a woman. Meaning the overall count is exactly the same. How can women afford to be choosy in that category and men not? They are dealing with the exact same numbers.
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:16 AM
1

Todays women are miserable for the fruits of modern feminism Is this all ages of women? Or is a particular generation that has been affected? If it's 'modern women' are older women still okay? Or have they been tainted by feminism as well? Which age groups should be refusing to engage with women and 'not playing'?
/r/MensRights14/06/21 11:10 AM
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No. 2 percent are convicted. It doesn't say if there was evidence or not because that's impossible to track. All convictions are assumed to have evidence. The stat is 2 percent of police reports lead to a conviction. Here it is. So his friend is in the 2 percent. He was convicted. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jul/30/convictions-fall-record-low-england-wales-prosecutions
/r/MensRights13/06/21 02:02 PM
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2 percent of police reports end up in charges. So unfortunate that your friend ended up in that 2 percent and not in the 98 percent of dismissed cases. They are pushing to raise those rates. You have to wonder what 'acceptable' levels are. 3 percent? 5 percent? What percent of police reported rapes should end with someone going to jail? If your friend is innocent and going to jail, should that 2 percent be lowered? 1 percent? .5 percent? It's a tough situation.
/r/MensRights13/06/21 12:38 PM
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I've been watching Brooklyn 99 lately. Captain Holt is by far the smartest and the leader. I've been watching Ozarks too. Jason Bateman is definitely the smart one. Game of thrones was a classic. Lots of brilliant male characters and the women were the villains in the end. The man had to put a sword in her to save everyone. Been watching the handmaids tale and I've been incredibly frustrated with the poor decisions of the main female character. The point is to show how she's been affected by neg…
/r/MensRights13/06/21 12:19 PM
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Which TV show do you find only had dumb male characters and smart female characters? Every show I watch had a mix of both. Are there any cop shows that don't have predominantly male cops? What shows are you watching that feminism has ruined? Edit: Heavily downvoted for asking for examples is classic feminist behaviour. 'I shouldn't have to prove my claims because I'm the victim'.
/r/MensRights13/06/21 11:09 AM
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That may be true actually. Both groups have extremes but mens groups may have less extreme people. What women's issues would you be willing to take up?
/r/MensRights12/06/21 12:32 PM
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Feminists say the mens rights movement is hateful and that the majority are bad. Mens rights groups say feminists are hateful and the majority are bad. But if you got 100 feminists and MRAs in a room and asked them if they want to lower male suicide, give women maternity leave, fix male mental health, reduce sexual assault rates, reduce incarceration rates of non violent men. Probably 99 out of 100 say yes to all those questions. Feminists and MRAs really aren't that different. Most are just peo…
/r/MensRights12/06/21 11:06 AM
2

Ashton Kutcher has done an incredible job pushing initiatives to stop the sex trafficking of young girls. Shaming men for buying young girls as sex slaves is perfectly acceptable. Those men should be ashamed.
/r/MensRights12/06/21 02:24 AM
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"Women in Ebocha, who are often breadwinners as well as caretakers, say gas flaring is ruining their bodies, making it that much more difficult to work and support families." That does seem pretty shitty for the women suffering.
/r/MensRights11/06/21 11:54 PM
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Yes. That's what many think just so they can invalidate someone's life experience. You don't gain anything from invalidating someone's life experience. And it only serves to make them feel shitty that people don't believe their struggle. But if it's important to you to make people feel bad just so you can stomp your feet and say who a real man is...you do you.
/r/MensRights11/06/21 07:37 PM
0

People cannot change sex. Gender is not a scientific construct as gender and the role associated varies greatly across the world. Gender is a collection of sociological norms that varies greatly which is why many people identify more strongly with a Gender that doesn't match their sex.
/r/MensRights11/06/21 07:20 PM
1

How am I trolling? Men make way more money even though women have the advantages. That's truly impressive.
/r/MensRights11/06/21 07:18 PM
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This is the same opinion as trans exclusionary feminists. It's unnecessarily hateful. Acknowledging that someone is a man costs you nothing and makes them feel more accepted. Dismissing their identity because it makes you feel better is no advantage to you at all. And it hurts people and makes them feel excluded from the conversation.
/r/MensRights11/06/21 06:57 PM
0

Considering the advantages women have, it's impressive that men are still able to make so much more money than them.
/r/MensRights11/06/21 06:54 PM
1

'If you're being called misogynist' does not mean I think you're being a misogynist. Or that I justify that label. It just means if it's happening, uts not because of your preference. It's because of your advertising. You read that as me justifying being called misogynist because you're so desperate to be offended by everyone and everything. A typical feminist perception from surrounding yourself with too much victimization of men. You're being exactly like a feminist right now. Perpetuating tha…
/r/MensRights11/06/21 11:54 AM
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I didn't justify being called misogynist. I called the behaviour shitty and said if you're being called a misogynist, it's probably on some feminist message board. And because it's not misogyny to state preferences. It's not misandry to state preferences. Its just shitty. Which brings me back to the original post. This isn't a mens rights issue. It's a whiny dating issue.
/r/MensRights11/06/21 11:47 AM
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No. Sexual preference is not bigotry. It's weird to even say that. Are you a bigot because you won't date men? Lol. You're really grasping here.
/r/MensRights11/06/21 11:30 AM
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No. Wanting a tall guy is not the same as being racist. And wanting a skinny girl is not the same as being racist. Trying to conflate the two is a weird attempt. This is simple and you're making it complicated so you can still be offended. Have whatever preferences you want. Don't advertise them. That is advice for both genders. More advice for both genders, is stop getting triggered and upset when someone does have a preference. Someone tweets they like skinny women? I don't care. Someone tweet…
/r/MensRights11/06/21 11:24 AM
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Wrong. There's no thought police. If you're being labeled a misogynist, it's because you're openly advertising you don't find big women attractive. Which is unnecessarily hurtful. Just like women saying they don't like men under 6 feet is unnecessarily hurtful when it's better to say nothing at all. Both people in that scenario are shitty and both people can have whatever preferences they want. Just don't advertise them unnecessarily because it makes some people feel bad. It'd really not that ha…
/r/MensRights11/06/21 11:14 AM
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No one is forcing you to find fat women attractive. You can not find fat women attractive. Thats your choice. Saying you won't date a fat person is kind of shitty because you don't know their personality at all. That goes for both genders. I don't get this idea that men can't have preferences. Like who is forcing you to date fat women? Do you mean to say you can't advertise your preferences?
/r/MensRights11/06/21 11:09 AM
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I’ll be 26 next month and i honestly can’t say i know a single woman who has been raised and taught how to treat a man. Only how to take from us and use us, treat us like we’re less than them People must know comments like this are why people view this movement as misogynistic right? If we saw a post on twoX that said all the men they have ever met were raised to be selfish rapists that take advantage of women...we would all view that as misandry right?
/r/MensRights11/06/21 11:07 AM
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Complaining that women on hookup apps are too picky is just embarrassing and has nothing to do with mens rights. Women should be picky. So should men. Date someone you like. Don't just settle for the best you can get because you fear being alone. Demonizing women for being picky in who they date is exactly the same as demonizing men for going their own way.
/r/MensRights11/06/21 11:03 AM
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https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/clementine-ford-pulls-writing-grant-application-after-covid-19-tweet-20200529-p54xvj.html And you're saying in responses to the tweet, people first admitted to being feminists...and then offered praise for her comments? That seems really unlikely to me. What seems more likely is any comment you see that you dislike, you attribute to feminism.
/r/MensRights10/06/21 10:27 AM
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I don't agree with any of the kill all men stuff. I think it's garbage. And I think Ford is garbage. But did you have an example of feminists praising Ford for her comment? Or did you just make that claim assuming no one would ask you to prove it?
/r/MensRights10/06/21 09:52 AM
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Clementine Ford took huge flack for that comment and even lost grants and financial support. What feminists do you feel praised Ford for that comment?
/r/MensRights10/06/21 09:24 AM
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If feminism started as an equality movement and was perverted over the course of generations. Wouldnt statements reclaiming the original meaning of feminism be a positive shift? At this point, there are two options. Abandon feminism. Or try to get it back to the point that it is about helping women in areas they are underprivileged. Something no one has a problem with. Statements that feminism is about equality could be considered lying. But could it also not be considered an attempt to take the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/06/21 11:47 AM
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You seem very concerned with being offended about something that doesn't affect you at all. Are you sure you aren't a feminist?
/r/MensRights09/06/21 11:38 AM
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The quickest way to combat oppression in our society is money. Money offers you a significant amount of freedom. So I'd say poor people are oppressed. Not sure if more men or women live in poverty but whoever that is probably faces more oppression.
/r/MensRights09/06/21 11:30 AM
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I think the vast majority of male feminists fall into the category of most feminists. Meaning people that believe in equality. Most people that self identify as feminists haven't bothered to research the problems with feminism. They just assume feminism means equality for women becsuse that's what they are told. So they identify as feminist.
/r/MensRights09/06/21 10:54 AM
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What's important is making sure people are vaccinated. Including those that have issues with exposing their arms around men.
/r/MensRights08/06/21 11:54 PM
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So if a man is fired for saying his employee has to sleep with him or she's fired....you feel that is 'rudeness' that shouldn't be treated as a crime? Because that's what sexual harassment is. Dismissing sexual harassment as a minor thing is not a good move. Sexual harassment is not 'rudeness'. It can be incredibly vile.
/r/MensRights08/06/21 10:10 PM
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No. Are there white people refusing to be vaccinated because therr are blacks at a clinic? If so, yeah, figure that out.
/r/MensRights08/06/21 09:38 PM
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Does a clinic geared towards women hurt men in any way? If so, how? If not, why have a problem with it if some women / religions feel more comfortable in that situation? I want as many people vaccinated as possible, if opening this clinic gets that number higher...im all for it.
/r/MensRights08/06/21 07:24 PM
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I too wanted to fact check, so I can give you what I uncovered. This link is the NISVS report. Though OP wording is misleading by focusing on one specific category. It shows more women reported sexual assault in the last 12 months and SIGNIFICANTLY more women reported sexual violence in their lifetime. The made to penetrate vs successful rape was the only stat that made it look like men were raped more so they rolled with that one. I couldn't find the nesarc survey but OP's statistics suggest me…
/r/MensRights08/06/21 11:14 AM
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I think a lot of people have this idea of 'feminists' that exists in their head as a Mashup of all the misandrist posts they've read. I don't think there have been many honest conversations with feminists before deciding what feminism really mean. MRAs know as much about feminists as feminists know about MRAs. Which is close to nothing.
/r/MensRights08/06/21 01:36 AM
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Interesting perspective. You feel by taking rights away from women, people will become more aware of Injustice and start caring more? So the ends justify the means kind of thing?
/r/MensRights07/06/21 02:06 PM
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Fair. Different countries are in different situations. The article was about the American draft. And while I still feel it is authoritarian, I'd be hard pressed to argue the draft isn't necessary in every country when I don't know their situation.
/r/MensRights07/06/21 01:52 PM
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Lol. How do you figure?
/r/MensRights07/06/21 01:25 PM
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Right. I just think the conversation should be 'men should have more rights' and not 'women should have less rights'. Forcing women into a draft pool right now doesn't help men. At all. Men still need to worry they'll be forced to fight a war. The only difference is women now live in that fear as well. It solves no problems for men and creates problems for women. So why bother? Effort should be towards abolishing the draft as that actually helps men.
/r/MensRights07/06/21 12:42 PM
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No one has a responsibility to be drafted into a war against their will. To die for politicians that get excluded from said draft. Any country with a draft is an authoritarian disaster.
/r/MensRights07/06/21 12:10 PM
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Buying a human for sex is gross and having sex with someone that doesn't even want to have sex with you and has to be paid doesn't sound all that appealing anyway.
/r/MensRights07/06/21 11:09 AM
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They found out it was illegal, and they still wanted to do it. Not because of sexism though. It's because that's what algorithms say maximizes their profit. If it was determined that they should charge women more, they'd switch. Wouldn't think twice. Money is king. People are second.
/r/MensRights07/06/21 02:06 AM
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Insurance companies don't care about proportions. They care about who makes insurance claims and for how much. And if men drive more, they are more likely to be In an accident than women. And more likely to be in accidents with higher damage tallies as well. Insurance companies aren't in their offices deciding to screw men or women. They use complex algorithms to determine who pays more. Trying to blame sexism and a 'matriarchy' reeks of feminism and its sad behaviour.
/r/MensRights07/06/21 01:23 AM
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I was the one saying we shouldn't callously say we would ignore rape. I'm the only one that seems to care.
/r/MensRights07/06/21 01:20 AM
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People like to focus on being victims instead of workable solutions.
/r/MensRights07/06/21 12:29 AM
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Uhhh. Anyone can rape anyone. That seems like a pretty obvious fact fact me. But I appreciate you suggesting I won the argument.
/r/MensRights07/06/21 12:28 AM
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Yeah. They are. I'd help a man being raped too. Who wouldn't?
/r/MensRights07/06/21 12:09 AM
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Which articles by men did you find were met with complete resistance? Are you talking in the educational field or just on social media that there is resistance to male articles about women?
/r/MensRights06/06/21 10:15 PM
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Good to hear you were just threatening to stop protecting women from crime. Not actually willing to stop.
/r/MensRights06/06/21 06:32 PM
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I'm not a victim. I'm a man. And I would still protect someone being raped. Not callously ignore it.
/r/MensRights06/06/21 05:22 PM
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Right but that doesn't mean studies are discounting murder by poison. It means women aren't being convicted of poisoning and you feel they are getting away with it.
/r/MensRights06/06/21 03:25 PM
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I don't think there's a single study calculating murders that discounts murder by poison. What a weird thing to say.
/r/MensRights06/06/21 03:16 PM
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Im not sure telling women to 'have fun' with violent offenders is all that classy. I don't think we should look as though we are taking pleasure in violence against women.
/r/MensRights06/06/21 01:22 PM
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I read stories like this a lot but I don't quite know what I want in these scenarios. If a woman calls the cops and says a man hit her and the cops show up and there is no proof...should cops actually just leave? And hope nothing bad happens? That seems kind of callous. Obviously forcing the men out every time isn't the solution either. So what is? How SHOULD a domestic violence call be handled when there is no proof what happened?
/r/MensRights06/06/21 12:14 PM
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They pretend they don't hate men with articles like this but it's obvious what the truth is.
/r/MensRights06/06/21 11:27 AM
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Nothing is worth it if you evaluate it by what COULD go wrong. The institution of marriage itself means very little but sharing your life with a partner is something that is emotionally, spiritually, and physically good for everyone.
/r/MensRights05/06/21 10:27 AM
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Yeah. They should send it for both. Hopefully they send it out next mothers day for people that don't want the reminder.
/r/MensRights04/06/21 04:51 PM
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I don't understand the problem here. My father passed away recently and it is tough getting so many reminders so I would maybe want to opt out for something like this. Why exactly is this offensive?
/r/MensRights04/06/21 04:43 PM
1

What? Who is saying we shouldn't worry about false accusations? Are you accusing me of that? Someone said nothing will stop a woman if she sees something to gain from it and I'm saying being a reasonable human being will stop most women. Just like being a reasonable human being stops most people from murder and rape. That doesn't mean we shouldn't worry about it. Don't get so defensive.
/r/MensRights04/06/21 01:36 PM
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So if there was an article about one of men that died in Vietnam Nam, it means the author is saying the other 57999 were less valuable? That really doesn't make any sense. If you write an article about a homeless person, are you saying all other homeless people don't matter as much? If you write an article about a doctor, are you saying all other doctors don't matter as much? Obviously not. An article about anyone is not inherently suggesting other people in similar circumstances don't matter as…
/r/MensRights04/06/21 12:55 PM
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There have been many articles written about men in Vietnam. I think its fantastic that there was one written about the women too. Just because one article was written on the women in Vietnam does not mean the article is saying those 8 women are more valuable than 58,000 men. Gyocentrism and male disposability is real but let's not repeat feminism and just start accusing every article about women of saying women are more important than men. The article did not allude to that at all.
/r/MensRights04/06/21 10:26 AM
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Seems like they just repost comments from other subs and have no original content. But I guess they are specifically choosing comments that make subs look bad which is hateful I guess.
/r/MensRights04/06/21 10:22 AM
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The problem here is proving someone lied isn't the same as proving someone was never raped. Proving someone lied to police isn't difficult. But if they were alone in a room together, proving there was no rape beyond a reasonable doubt is a nightmare. Even if she lied about other details.
/r/MensRights03/06/21 09:57 PM
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a common sentiment but this would result in more pain for men. If punishment for a false accusation was as severe as rape, women would never admit they were lying. And since proving something didn't happen is nearly impossible, almost no one would be convicted of this crime. So men would have to live with the accusations that are neither proven nor disproven. Something that can still be life ruining. Conversely, If the sentence was a few years, some women may recant their story and the men in qu…
/r/MensRights03/06/21 09:42 PM
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Who is 'they'? People who make false accusations?
/r/MensRights03/06/21 06:22 PM
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And yet.. its fairly common to cast aspersions on the moral character of a man by claiming he's abusive or sexually molests the children. Right, but this is unacceptable. I'm glad this judge shut down someone's false allegations in court. And yes it happens to men and I wish other judges shut down those situations too. If this person is making false allegations to obtain child custody, they deserve to lose custody of their kid.
/r/MensRights03/06/21 10:58 AM
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The article says nothing about her getting the house and everything in the divorce. It just says that having an affair is not a valid reason to deny someone custody. A fact that I definitely agree with. Affairs shouldn't be weaponozed in custody disputes.
/r/MensRights03/06/21 10:42 AM
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I think most people would find falsely accusing someone of rape morally wrong. I think most people's conscience stops them from doing something so heinous.
/r/MensRights02/06/21 08:59 PM
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This is a gross oversimplification of the issue. The reason people say to teach consent to kids is so that kids know that assuming someone wants something is not the same as confirmation someone wants something. This isn't designed to stop violent rapists. It's designed to stop the situation where two people have sex and one of them wakes up feeling as though they were taken advantage of. Be it because they were drunk, a subordinate at work, or whatever. Saying teaching consent won't help is lik…
/r/MensRights02/06/21 08:33 PM
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Or sleep with Matt Gaetz for money? Would you actually though? Is being that desperate a privilege?
/r/MensRights02/06/21 05:53 PM
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So you'd talk dirty to old men for money? For real?
/r/MensRights02/06/21 05:51 PM
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Don't be hateful for no reason. Selling your body is not a 'big privilege' and arguing most women 'do it for free' for attention is dumb. Don't bring your issues with women to a conversation about helping men.
/r/MensRights02/06/21 05:03 PM
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The ear piercing is a pretty fair point. Neither gender seems to get bodily autonomy granted to them at birth. The problem is circumcision is just a much more widely accepted practice. However the rights issued to males and females would be the same. Or more specifically, a lack of rights.
/r/MensRights02/06/21 03:46 PM
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I only read the most upvoted comments which all followed that theme. I'm sure there are other comments that are less upvoted that are just people being crappy.
/r/MensRights02/06/21 03:15 PM
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He's being torched for not telling his current fiance about potentially life altering news. You really should share something potentially earth shattering like that with your partner. No one seems upset about the ghosting at all. And it's not 'his girlfriends child'. Its his child too.
/r/MensRights02/06/21 02:55 PM
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Is attacking 'most women' any less pathetic than the posts on TwoX complaining about 'most men'? I wish the MGTOW crowd would complain about women in their quarantined area so this group could focus on rights and progress.
/r/MensRights02/06/21 02:27 PM
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Seems like she was doing a report on a swingers club opening and decided to join in on the fun. What about that makes her a disgusting human being and a pathetic excuse for a woman?
/r/MensRights02/06/21 12:27 PM
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That's not what her post says. Her post said she didn't think they were correlated at all and that's why she didn't mention it to his family. And She doesn't want the story to be that he simply became abusive. That doesn't help anyone. She wants to get her husband back the way he was.
/r/MensRights02/06/21 03:30 AM
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She accidentally pushed him down the stairs. She made that very clear. And I never said he's the bad guy. He's sick and needs medical help. That's not a bad guy. That's just someone that needs to be helped. I in no way suggested he did anything wrong at all. No need to be so defensive.
/r/MensRights02/06/21 03:23 AM
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She is in a tough situation. So is he. They both are. But suggesting it wasn't an accident that he fell down the stairs is just adding biased information without reason to discredit the story. Something there is absolutely no reason for. She is objectively in a tough situation. Thats not up for debate. Her husband needs medical help and is having trouble controlling his emotions because of it. Thats very difficult. Both are adults and both can make whatever choices they want. I don't think anyon…
/r/MensRights02/06/21 03:18 AM
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What do we stand to gain from questioning the authenticity of someone's post? She said her husband is being too rough with her and so you try and poke holes in her story? Why? Because she's a woman? To downplay the abuse? Is a woman getting sympathy about a tough life situation so bad that we need to try and attack her story? Will that help further mens rights in any way? This post is in poor taste and has nothing to do with mens rights.
/r/MensRights02/06/21 02:52 AM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/07/07/61-of-u-s-women-say-feminist-describes-them-well-many-see-feminism-as-empowering-polarizing/
/r/MensRights01/06/21 09:44 PM
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It's like you can't even insult a woman these days without her being offended.
/r/MensRights01/06/21 05:59 PM
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Because people tend to judge groups by the most extreme voices and people tend to highlight those negative examples in an attempt to defame an organization. It's the same reason you'll see people here say that all feminists hate men. When obviously half the population doesn't actively hate men. It's a divisive tactic to upset people into being more one sided on issues and less able to communicate with the 'other side'. Its an incredibly effective form of radicalization.
/r/MensRights01/06/21 01:46 PM
-1

Have any male athletes come out and said they are uncomfortable with female reporters in their locker room? I tried to look this up and it was just dozens of articles of female sports reporters facing sexism. So not what I was looking for.
/r/MensRights01/06/21 11:14 AM
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You can describe yourself as a feminist and still want to lower suicide rates and fix mental health issues. The two are not mutually exclusive.
/r/MensRights31/05/21 04:59 PM
2

The men in power are negligent of men's issues too. Everyone in power is.
/r/MensRights31/05/21 04:54 PM
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I don't think the majority of women are a problem. Most are very reasonable and care about male issues like suicide, mental health, homelessness, and health. But that seems to be an unpopular opinion here.
/r/MensRights31/05/21 04:38 PM
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No one is stopping you from saying that. And you can choose to avoid dating for those reasons if you like. Much like women can choose to not walk alone at night, you can choose to not date or get married. All to reduce risk of victimization. But an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind and casting stones is what ruined feminism so I doubt it will help this movement.
/r/MensRights31/05/21 04:20 PM
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Because their entire case is based around the idea that male only drafts are unconstitutional. The problem laid forth by the ACLU is that it's gender biased. Not that it exists.
/r/MensRights31/05/21 04:18 PM
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It means they want men and women to be drafted equally I would presume. Zero gender discrimination within the draft.
/r/MensRights31/05/21 04:15 PM
2

' a challenge to male only military draft' means challenging that only men are drafted doesn't it? Seems pretty clear to me.
/r/MensRights31/05/21 04:08 PM
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I think the headline implied that, not me. Challenging the all male draft suggests wanting it to be gender neutral. Challenging the draft itself implies it should be eradicated.
/r/MensRights31/05/21 04:04 PM
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It's about how male only draft is discriminatory. Which is true. There's two ways to solve it. Having no one drafted. Or having both genders drafted. I'm saying no one drafted is a FAR better solution.
/r/MensRights31/05/21 03:32 PM
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The conversation shouldn't be 'let's allow women to be drafted'. The conversation should be 'no one should be forced to fight in a war they don't want to regardless of what's between their legs'.
/r/MensRights31/05/21 02:40 PM
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This is why people think the mens rights movement is just a bunch of incels that hate women. Don't be an idiot.
/r/MensRights31/05/21 02:54 AM
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You're approaching this from a rational standpoint in which numbers and support lead to social change. This is logical...but the response you get will be anything but. Many just view every feminist as an enemy regardless of not knowing anything about them. The anger and frustration of societal woes has to be directed somewhere and many have chosen feminism. While your outlook may be what's best for advancing the awareness of men's issues, there is too much anger here to approach with rationale i…
/r/MensRights30/05/21 06:24 PM
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This article shows the reported rapes for Sweden In 2019. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1177271/number-of-reported-cases-of-sexual-offence-in-sweden-by-type/ Here's the report of convictions from sweden for the same year. https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/rape-convictions-in-sweden-rise-after-law-change/
/r/MensRights30/05/21 05:48 PM
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Rape convictions went up 75 percent in Sweden after this was enacted. The article frames this as a situation where innocent men are being locked up like crazy...but it's Important to note that only 3.8 percent of rapes reported to the police resulted in a guilty charge. 331 out of 8581 rapes reported to the police resulted in a conviction. So its hard to argue conviction rates are too high...
/r/MensRights30/05/21 03:02 PM
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I didn't say it wasn't worthy of conviction. I said I didn't think they would. It's not up to me what's worthy of a conviction. And I never said it was the man's responsibility to use birth control. I said it was the individuals responsibility, regardless of their gender. A man can lie about birth control too. I gave the example regarding the vasectomy. And as I said, if both are prosecuted, this is a gender neutral law. If neither are, it's still gender neutral. I'm not sure why you're going ou…
/r/MensRights30/05/21 02:02 PM
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Yeah...men should probably stop having sex with someone when they say 'no'. That seems like pretty good advice.
/r/MensRights30/05/21 01:50 PM
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It's not a gender biased law because you ASSUME how it will be utilized. That doesn't make any sense. That's like saying murder is a gender biased law because more men are going to jail for murder. If men are convicted for saying they got a vasectomy and women ARENT convicted for lying about birth control...THAT would be gender biased. If both or neither are convicted, it's perfectly fair.
/r/MensRights30/05/21 01:36 PM
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Don't know. Depends where prosecutors decide to draw the line. But I would say probably not. I think the onus is on the individual, male or female, to prevent unwanted pregnancy.
/r/MensRights30/05/21 01:27 PM
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I don't get what the big deal is here. They definitely made rape an umbrella term but as long as they are obligated to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt (which they still are) then this shouldn't hurt innocent men at all. If they can prove beyond any doubts that a woman initially agreed to make out but then rescinded consent and verbally clearly said no to sex and a person still had sex with her....that person DOES belong in jail. The law being expanded to include that situation isn't a prob…
/r/MensRights30/05/21 12:50 PM
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What do you think can be done though? Stop prosecuting people for sex assault crimes? Obviously that's not a solution. Protesting false accusations is like protesting rape. The people that engage in either of those behaviours don't really care if you're marching in the street.
/r/MensRights30/05/21 11:02 AM
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To save you time, here's the quote. "More than 3 in 4 (75%, or 155) perpetrators of domestic homicide were male (AIC unpublished)"
/r/MensRights30/05/21 10:57 AM
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According to this, in Australia, men are three times more likely to kill their intimate partner than women.
/r/MensRights30/05/21 10:52 AM
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Yeah. Everyone knows there are shitty women. But saying 'women like watching men suffer' suggests all. Saying 'some women like to watch men suffer' is not a generalization. Like men are trash is more okay. Some men are trash is acceptable.
/r/MensRights29/05/21 09:31 PM
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So if I said, men are trash. It's okay because I didn't say ALL men are trash? Obviously not. Saying 'women like to watch men suffer is generalizing women. And it's a bad look.
/r/MensRights29/05/21 09:20 PM
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So women are complaining about men with porn addiction, and you decided it's a good time to go in there to talk about how bad women treat men and how women like to watch men suffer? What does that have to do with the subreddit? Anything? Seems like you just interjected your own issues unrelated to the sub. And did it while making generalizations about women. Also, you weren't a woman when you posted this. What changed?
/r/MensRights29/05/21 09:05 PM
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Seems like you went to a subreddit unrelated to women and just decided to complain about women. You simultaneously said women take pleasure in the suffering of men while saying you hate that women generalize men. You must see the hypocritical nature there to make broad statements about women while being upset about broad statements made about men.
/r/MensRights29/05/21 08:51 PM
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Why do these comments get so many upvotes? The suggestion that women don't see the majority of men as human beings is beyond ridiculous.
/r/MensRights29/05/21 08:11 PM
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Does this prove in any way that females aren't less dangerous? How is this calling out the lie?
/r/MensRights29/05/21 03:26 PM
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Women being terrible people isn't really doing anything for mens rights though is it? I guess if people think less of women, men will get more equitable treatment? Not any better treatment. Just more equitable. Is that the game plan here?
/r/MensRights29/05/21 02:58 PM
-1

How does the term toxic masculinity imply only masculine traits are toxic? Does the term toxic waste imply that only waste can be toxic? I agree with everything you said and dislike the term but that first point is a bit of an overreach.
/r/MensRights29/05/21 12:51 PM
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Male survivors of Sexual Assault / Rape don't come forward because of ignorant views like the quoted woman above.. because they don't FEAR they wont be believed.. but because they KNOW they won't be believed. This is true. Thats why it is incredibly important to support those that come forward as victims rather than interrogating them. Instead of #believeAllWomen. It should be #BelieveAllPeople. Male and female victims should not be made to feel their assault was their fault. Ever.
/r/MensRights29/05/21 10:04 AM
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It has worked before. But probably not very common. Though I'm not sure if it's common for women to get away with it either. https://metro.co.uk/2015/10/20/man-removed-from-sex-offender-list-because-victim-said-she-was-of-legal-age-5451705/ https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/man-who-met-teen-online-found-not-guilty-of-sex-charges-1.910028
/r/MensRights28/05/21 11:14 PM
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One was a man that groomed and abducted a 14 year old girl and had sex with her knowing her age. The other was a case in which the 14 year old boy lied about his age and made a fake Facebook account with his fake age. Hard to argue those the are 'exact same crime'. Though both are gross.
/r/MensRights28/05/21 10:30 PM
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My comment is so downvoted. No point in editing. Seems people made it clear that invading female spaces and than making broad generalizations about women is fine. And calling it out is unacceptable. It's sad what this sub has become.
/r/MensRights28/05/21 10:07 PM
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No. I feel that statement was sad. Not him. And I don't know if he's a terrible person. But taking solace in making people uncomfortable that don't like working out around men isn't something good people do.
/r/MensRights28/05/21 09:26 PM
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These were reasonable points. I had no rebuttal. I just learned from them and moved on.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/21 09:11 PM
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I think feminism failed when people stopped calling feminists out for shitty behaviour. So I will continue to question people making generalizations about women or going to women only spaces out of protest.
/r/MensRights28/05/21 07:59 PM
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How often do you walk into an establishment and know if a man or a woman runs it? This seems like a made up statistic to me.
/r/MensRights28/05/21 04:57 PM
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So when you said 'it was women that banned an entire gender' You were just blaming the gym owner that is a woman? You know 'women' is plural right? So blaming 'women' is not blaming one individual person. Trying to backtrack and say you never blamed women is embarrassing.
/r/MensRights28/05/21 03:36 PM
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You observed every single girl in the main gym ogling men and not working out? I find that hard to believe. You made a broad and negative generalization and then compared yourself to Rosa Parks. And women didn't ban a gender. Women don't collectively control gym rules. You just blame women for things you don't like. Because of painfully obvious issues with women.
/r/MensRights28/05/21 03:15 PM
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This is more sad than anything. You purposefully make women uncomfortable and then take pleasure in it. Then you attack all the women that work out in the main section as 'gym bunnies looking for attention'. If they don't want male attention, you make them uncomfortable on purpose out of spite. If they don't work out in that area, you attack them for wanting attention. Is it possible you just have issues with women?
/r/MensRights28/05/21 02:53 PM
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So you don't want to date someone that 'acts like a man'... but you're surprised that women don't want to date someone that 'acts like a man'? This is some truly sad stuff. Women can be who they want and comdescenigly telling them what will make them happy is so blatantly sexist. It truly depresses me that people who think like you are taking over the mens rights movement and making it about whining about women being too assertive. Or going to college.
/r/MensRights27/05/21 04:58 PM
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What are the masculine traits that you feel are ruining women? Financial independence? College degrees? Sexual liberation?
/r/MensRights27/05/21 04:42 PM
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You get called a cuck and simp because you're acting just like the feminist idiots that are ruining women and masculinizing them, which leads to resentment and hate when they dont see the results they want when their behavior is repulsive Women aren't being 'ruined' by being 'masculinized'. I'm sure you'd like to go back in time to when women did nothing but cook and clean but that world is gone. I can clearly see that led to resentment and hate in your posts. But posts about how bad women are h…
/r/MensRights27/05/21 04:39 PM
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I said - "The post didn't say 'sexual market value'. It said 'value'. Reducing women's value to sex is not a good look." Op said - 'Same difference.' He quite clearly said that a woman's value is the same as her 'sexual market value' He literally said women's value is only her sexual value. You don't have to read between the lines. You don't have to interpret anything. He just straight up said it. And now I'm the bad guy for calling him out on it? I get called a cuck and a simp because I won't s…
/r/MensRights27/05/21 04:30 PM
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Right. No one said they hate women. Just that their value is reliant on sexual appeal and that they aren't worth anything else. But only someone that hates women would say that. Obviously. Why defend someone like that?
/r/MensRights27/05/21 03:59 PM
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Yeah. Thats a shitty thing to do. What does that have to do with anything?
/r/MensRights27/05/21 03:58 PM
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Most people stay the same, women especially lack the accountability to change and be better women, mainly due to feminism. You should know this being apart of this sub. I don't think being part of this sub requires me to dislike women and then blame feminism for my issues with women. You sound like a hard-core feminist, but in reverse. Disliking men and then blaming the patriarchy for it is no different different disliking women and blaming feminism.
/r/MensRights27/05/21 02:44 PM
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The post didn't say 'sexual market value'. It said 'value'. Reducing women's value to sex is not a good look. Women are more valuable as they become better people and better partners. I assure you, that doesn't happen at 18 or 19.
/r/MensRights27/05/21 02:33 PM
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Nah. Original post is correct. If you think a woman's value decreases because she isn't a teenager...your a creep. Trying to defend those ideals is not a good plan.
/r/MensRights27/05/21 02:23 PM
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I'm 100 percent supportive of groups that are male focused in terms of domestic violence. Male shelters and support programs for men abused by women are an excellent initiative in today's society. So I have a hard time being mad at female only domestic abuse programs or shelters and saying that's sexism. I don't think you can support male programs while calling female programs bigotry. Both are fine initiatives independently. I just wish there were more of the former.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/05/21 11:02 AM
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The dude just wanted a statistic. And you give him 7 walls of unrelated texts and then accuse him of 'losing the argument' when he asked agains for the original statistic. Copy and paste is a fine way to share information but if someone is looking for a specific piece of information, copy and pasting a novel and then being a condescending jerk doesn't help much.
/r/MensRights27/05/21 10:55 AM
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Doesn't everyone want to combat street harassment? No one is pro-street harassment.
/r/MensRights26/05/21 08:03 PM
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Do you think these women should be charged with sexual assault? Or do you think men and women that do this shouldn't be punished. I know it's wrong, but should it be punishable is the important question in today's society?
/r/MensRights26/05/21 12:45 PM
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True. But comments like the one i mentioned are toxic. Nothing can possibly get done when the group can so easily be dismissed as being anti-women. So until that is uprooted, no one will take this group seriously. Thats why people have given up on approaches that respect the female struggle. They'll even attack you and call you a white knight for even suggesting it. I'm not saying there aren't rational people here. The majority are. The angry voices just always seem to be the loudest and they ma…
/r/MensRights26/05/21 11:54 AM
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There are too many angry people here to adopt rational approaches to conversation and progress. Most people care more about venting than they do about actually making the mens rights movement something to be respected and thought about. For example, the top comment so far calls women 'entitled, professional victims And suggests not engaging with women at all. It's obvious that will make the mens rights movement look like a bunch of angry women haters. But no one seems to care.
/r/MensRights26/05/21 11:31 AM
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Seems like all they are doing is taking comments from this sub and repeating them. Doesn't seem like a big deal.
/r/MensRights26/05/21 03:25 AM
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This is what happens when you call out bigotry. You get downvoted and people defend the bigotry at length.
/r/MensRights25/05/21 08:29 PM
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People at MGTOW must be pretty crappy if they are downvoting people because they want equal rights. That's a pretty bold claim to make.
/r/MensRights25/05/21 03:25 PM
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FDS isn't a movement either and I'm willing to bet the majority of MGTOW consider them mens rights supporters. I don't understand your point. No difference between the two groups in my opinion. Neither represent the respective movements. I know many that identify as feminists that aren't bigoted. Most of society identifies as feminist.
/r/MensRights25/05/21 03:08 PM
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People tend to view movements by the most extreme aspects of it. People hear 'Mens rights' and they think 'MGTOW'. Just like people hear 'feminist' and they think 'Female dating strategy' Neither are fair representations and both inhibit real progress on terms of equality.
/r/MensRights25/05/21 02:07 PM
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Money is the biggest determinate of power in our society. And men are still collectively making more than women. That may change eventually. We will see. But for now, implying that men are making more money and holding less power doesn't make much sense.
/r/MensRights25/05/21 11:53 AM
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Agreed. People saying that are dumb as well.
/r/MensRights25/05/21 04:09 AM
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This right here is why people say the mens rights movement is filled with misognists that just want revenge on women. Angrily saying people shouldn't date rape victims as some form of retaliation agaojst women makes no sense.
/r/MensRights25/05/21 02:00 AM
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But why would you want to date someone like that anyway? If they are uncomfortable with a woman making more money than them, they weren't worth dating in the first place. So yeah, it lowers your pool of potential partners....by weeding out losers. Thats a win.
/r/MensRights24/05/21 07:05 PM
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That's not how accusations work though. If someone is left assaulted and beaten on the side of the road, but they can't prove who did it...it doesn't mean they lied and it was a false accusation. Things don't get 'defaulted to false'. They get defaulted to 'we will never know'.
/r/MensRights24/05/21 04:47 PM
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Who considers men enemies that should be enslaved? Anyone who thinks that way belongs in jail.
/r/MensRights24/05/21 12:34 PM
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My point was to correct the original assertion that this happens to men more. That was incorrect so I informed with statistics.
/r/MensRights23/05/21 04:15 PM
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Unfortunately, to charge someone with a false report of sexual assault, you need to prove she was never sexually assaulted. And proving something never happened when they both admit they were alone having intercourse is impossible. So the only charge you can bring against her is lying to the police since her version of the events was a lie. Obviously this crime doesn't carry much of a sentence.
/r/MensRights23/05/21 03:00 PM
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This probably isn't helping. Defending sexism with 'they started it' IS misogynistic and hateful.
/r/MensRights23/05/21 10:16 AM
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Not being a sexist hate fueled person is not a compromise. It's basic levels of humanity.
/r/MensRights22/05/21 05:52 PM
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Justifying sexism against all women because of sexism from some women is bad form. Generalizing is not okay. Full stop. Women doing it are bad. Men doing it are bad. 'They started it' is for children. Not adults.
/r/MensRights22/05/21 05:41 PM
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Right. Some women say that. And it's not okay obviously. So why are you doing it?
/r/MensRights22/05/21 05:30 PM
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This source says 30 to 40 percent of victims are men. According to the National Crime Record Bureau, about 30-40 per cent of acid attack survivors are men" However according to this source, women in india are over 80 percent of victims. Acid attacks in India But based on how the conversations tend to be regarding this issue, even 20 to 40 percent of victims being men surprised me. I would have assumed much lower the way most discussions considered it so gendered.
/r/MensRights22/05/21 05:27 PM
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Do women be like that though? Or are you just taking shots at women for no reason?
/r/MensRights22/05/21 04:35 PM
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The article posted literally did blame men. "Girls living in non-traditional families are found to have been sexually abused by their “stepfathers”, either the married, cohabiting, or casual partner of a divorced or single mother, at many times the rate that girls are sexually abused by their biological fathers in traditional families."
/r/MensRights22/05/21 09:40 AM
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Fighting against misogynistic stereotypes would help men. Getting rid of dated gender roles is a win for both genders. The misogynistic idea that women raise children SHOULD be attacked. It hurts men in many ways. Its stupid to say that ALL of men's problems come from misogyny, but it's fair to say stereotypical gender roles compound the problem. And misandry and misogyny are both often rooted in stereotypical gender roles. So fighting against misogyny does help men. Thats certainly not nonsense…
/r/MensRights21/05/21 10:13 PM
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Actually, there is evidence to support this theory. This peer reviewed study makes the claim that women receive longer sentences but only for killing their partner. That said, it also comes with a justification. Because women are less physically strong, the murder is often pre-meditated and not a spur of the moment crime. Pre-meditated murders carry longer sentences than loss of control murders. So its not as simple as 'feminists are lying' as there is some truth to the statement. There's just a…
/r/MensRights21/05/21 12:08 PM
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Trying to diminish your spouse's accomplishments is not okay. Bringing other people down does not elevate you. It just ruins marriages.
/r/MensRights21/05/21 12:29 AM
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I'd question any statistic that measures rapes as 'true' or 'false'. The reality is most rapes are unknown. So trying to force them into one category or the other is a bad exercise.
/r/MensRights20/05/21 08:19 PM
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Yeah. If there's no proof, you drop it. If there is proof he's guilty, book him. If there's proof she's guilty, book her. If there's no proof. You move on.
/r/MensRights20/05/21 05:22 PM
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Nope. I did not suggest that at all. Are you sure you are reading it correctly?
/r/MensRights20/05/21 05:16 PM
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I in no way said that. What part of my statement suggested we shouldn't punish those proven guilty of falsely accusing someone?
/r/MensRights20/05/21 05:14 PM
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No man should have his reputation ruined for something he didn't do. But women do have a right to tell their story. As do men. No one should be silenced from discussing their abuse just because they don't have proof. The step society needs to make is to not overreact to said stories. Just politely listen and move on if there is no proof. Not attack the alleged victim. Not condemn the alleged assailant. Just move on.
/r/MensRights20/05/21 12:35 PM
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But the photo was taken right after the incident. "Dr David Rouse had looked at photos and observed: 'The presence of bruising to the neck and a linear mark are consistent with an episode of gripping of the neck', the Liverpool Echo reports. The photos have only recently emerged but were taken in custody after her arrest, more than three and a half hours before she was photographed during a nurse's examination."
/r/MensRights20/05/21 12:03 PM
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I think one person you're arguing with isn't representative of "Feminist subs on reddit are claiming that FDS is made up of over 95% men" Only an idiot would think FDS is 95 percent men.
/r/MensRights20/05/21 11:14 AM
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How do you figure that?
/r/MensRights20/05/21 11:08 AM
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Innocent until proven guilty is a staple of the legal system and I don't believe any of those people have been proven guilty in the court of law. Assuming someone is guilty and calling them rapists / domestic abusers without a conviction doesn't seem right.
/r/MensRights20/05/21 10:56 AM
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I don't think that's true. If a company announced today 20 million dollars to mens charities and women started boycotting that Company, I would find that petty and unhelpful. So I don't think men should boycott companies for donating to women's charities.
/r/MensRights19/05/21 08:20 PM
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That's a fair analysis. Gender subreddits tend to bring in the people that are more radical/ vocal.
/r/MensRights19/05/21 07:58 PM
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I'm all for huge donations to women's charities. Shoppers has done amazing things for women in Canada and I hope they continue to do so. I just wish more companies would donate to mens charities as well. Alas, it doesn't get the good PR that women's charities do.
/r/MensRights19/05/21 05:59 PM
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Are those female traits though? Do women not also want to come home to cooperative, friendly, and kind partners? Or should men be argumentative, brave, and dominant? It doesn't matter much what you're attracted to. But men shouldn't feel less like men for being cooperative, friendly, and kind. And women shouldn't have to be submissive to feel they appeal to men.
/r/MensRights19/05/21 05:50 PM
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Argumentative, dominant, and brave is women betraying what makes them special? Meaning what makes women special is being compliant, passive, and fearful?
/r/MensRights19/05/21 04:15 PM
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Exactly. And far more than 10 percent of feminists don't know anything about feminist theory. So the idea that 90 percent are actively rooting against men is inaccurate. The majority of feminists don't know anything about feminist theory. Other than maybe 'men used to control society centuries ago'.
/r/MensRights19/05/21 12:52 PM
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90% of feminist don't give a fuck about discrimination against men, they are probably happy about it and think it's compensation for the suffering women faced in the past. This just simply isn't true. 90 percent of feminists have spent zero time researching feminists theory and have done no more research on the matter than 'I believe in equality'. I don't think its fair to say they hate men and are happy men are suffering. Most women are very empathetic. They just don't know anything about femin…
/r/MensRights19/05/21 10:54 AM
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Your sources suggest false accusations are almost as common as rape. So either both are rare or both are common. Just depends on what your definitions are of rare and common. No sense attacking someone who feels it's rare.
/r/MensRights18/05/21 11:24 PM
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If you're offended by those words, you might be a snowflake. If you're offended by a school NOT using those words, you might be a snowflake. Best not to care at all what terms a school does and doesn't use.
/r/MensRights18/05/21 06:49 PM
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Men never needed women. Doesnt mean they can't be fun to be with. I found dating to be a good way to understand things through other perspectives. Completely shutting yourself off from women only tends to compound problems with women. You can see that quite clearly if you look on MGTOW for a while. It's pretty rough.
/r/MensRights18/05/21 11:47 AM
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Kids pretty messed up. I can see how trying to treat someone like that would be exhausting. Especially if they don't want to be treated.
/r/MensRights18/05/21 11:40 AM
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I just showed the article. It states that males have higher acceptance rates than females in many schools. Do you think they are lying?
/r/MensRights17/05/21 07:47 PM
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It's my understanding that 60 percent of college applicants are female. Which means many colleges are more likely to elevate male applicants because they don't want the gender divide in college to be too huge. This would also explain why 60 percent of scholarships are directed towards women. At least according to this
/r/MensRights17/05/21 06:11 PM
3

Giving up work and being a stay at home dad makes you completely reliant on someone else. If they leave you, you have no career to land on. That's a precarious position to be in. Being 100 percent reliant on someone else leaves you with minimal options if things get rocky or if she gets abusive. It's not good for women now and it wouldn't be great for men either.
/r/MensRights17/05/21 03:16 PM
5

You've never seen a relationship in which both parties support eachother in real life? Maybe it's because I'm in my 30s but that's the vast majority of relationships I see. If you're younger than that, I can see how it looks that way. But by the time people reach their 30s, people are better at human interaction.
/r/MensRights17/05/21 11:56 AM
1

Interesting statistic but his proof was a conversation with a speaker at a mens conference over coffee. I'd certainly be hesitant to call that a fact at this point.
/r/MensRights16/05/21 02:36 PM
1

This article says otherwise. Do you have a source for the more than 50 percent of men who rape women were abused by women? Because that's a damning statistic if it is that high. And you even added the caveat of abused by women specifically which this article did not.
/r/MensRights16/05/21 12:55 PM
3

Yeah. If your opinion is 'I don't like trans people' I'm on board cancelling you.
/r/MensRights16/05/21 12:43 PM
2

I haven't said anyone should be locked up. I said some of these opinions are unnecessarily cruel and do nothing but hurt trans people. Everyone is free to express their opinion, and I'm free to judge people for that opinion and ask them to back up why they would dislike trans people.
/r/MensRights16/05/21 12:41 PM
0

Yeah. I guess it was just weird to see people admit it so overtly.
/r/MensRights16/05/21 12:37 PM
8

Mansplaining is a dumb name for men being condescending towards women. While it's a stupid name that's pointlessly gendered, obviously there are people out there guilty of being condescending. Being a condescending jerk is a very real thing. For both genders.
/r/MensRights16/05/21 12:33 PM
2

And you really don't see how calling people abnormal may be offensive to them? And shitty to do? And for no reason?
/r/MensRights16/05/21 12:56 AM
4

You really don't think any of the quotes I posted are hateful? You don't think calling trans people abnormal is hateful? Because I definitely do.
/r/MensRights16/05/21 12:39 AM
1

What do you get from excluding them? What do you get by telling trans men that they aren't as much of a man than you? A sense of satisfaction? What's the point of stomping your feet and telling them they are different than you rather than just discussing the countless similarities?
/r/MensRights16/05/21 12:29 AM
4

I'm not saying focus on trans issues. I'm saying be less hateful to trans people. I thought it was a pretty simple thing to request.
/r/MensRights16/05/21 12:27 AM
9

I think it means not excluding then from the conversation about injustices just because they aren't exactly the same 'type' of man that you are. Not dismissing mens problems as less significant with statements like "Get back to me when trans men can be drafted, or have their genitals mutilated at birth"
/r/MensRights16/05/21 12:26 AM
1

Since when do people not like trans people?
/r/MensRights16/05/21 12:24 AM
4

Just because trans men don't face every Injustice biological men face, does not mean they should be dismissed from the conversation.
/r/MensRights16/05/21 12:24 AM
-3

I'm aware of the differences between sex and gender. Sex is a static and gender is a social construct. But it is VERY important to make that distinction when discussing trans rights and few here are. "That's literally the medical definition of a woman You're either brainwashed or retarded" "if you were born with a vagina you are a woman (medical deformities withstanding ofcourse." "I mean, they technically arent real women. You need the brain, and the body" "You can accept them without believing…
/r/MensRights15/05/21 01:14 PM
-20

Except she didn't say 'biological woman'. She just said 'woman'. You can assume that's what she meant. But it's absolutely not what she said. And it's not what all the people are saying on these comments either. People seem very anti trans in these comments which is very unfortunate.
/r/MensRights15/05/21 12:18 PM
-35

I don't understand what you are saying. Caitlin Jenner is a women and she wasn't born with a vagina. There is no requirement to be born.with a vagina to be a woman. You could say you need to be born a woman to be a biological woman. But that's not what this person said.
/r/MensRights15/05/21 12:12 PM
-10

The top comment on my post is "if you were born with a vagina you are a woman (medical deformities withstanding ofcourse". This is blatantly saying that trans men are not men because they were born with a vagina. This is not accepting of the trans community. This is blatantly attacking the core principles of the trans community. That you can change the gender you identify with.
/r/MensRights15/05/21 12:00 PM
2

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/student-investigated-for-saying-women-must-have-vaginas-3tnl0f9wb Wording is definitely Important here
/r/MensRights15/05/21 11:28 AM
-34

Yeah. Thats what TERFS say too. That trans women aren't real women.
/r/MensRights15/05/21 11:12 AM
-17

I'm sexist because I think trump is gross for walking into girls change rooms? Really?
/r/MensRights15/05/21 10:57 AM
-23

What? I don't think anyone should walk into change rooms of the opposite gender. What are you talking about?
/r/MensRights15/05/21 10:44 AM
-45

Or elected president. Yikes TRUMP "Well, I'll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show, and everyone's getting dressed and ready and everything else, and you know, no men are anywhere. And I'm allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant and therefore I'm inspecting it. You know, I'm inspecting, I want to make sure that everything is good. You know, the dresses. ‘Is everyone okay?’ You know, they're standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody okay?’ And you see th…
/r/MensRights15/05/21 10:39 AM
-85

Claiming you need to be born with a vagina to be a woman is a very TERF thing to say. Edit: I always assumed people here were accepting of the trans community and understand that people can identify as whatever gender they want. But it seems most everyone here agrees with radical feminists. I did not see that coming.
/r/MensRights15/05/21 10:29 AM
3

Looking through the actual quotes (they quoted one sentence or part of a sentence), I see very few from here, most are from MGTOW or TRP. Wait. Did people need a study to determine there was a good chunk of sexism in MGTOW and TRP? Because I could have saved them some time...
/r/MensRights15/05/21 12:11 AM
6

He said /she said. She was dancing the next day on a video like nothing was wrong so he was acquitted. Not sure we will ever know the truth here but better 9 guilty people go free than one innocent goes to jail.
/r/MensRights14/05/21 07:42 PM
-8

Your post said it highlights the need to hold women accountable for false accusations. Im saying that's dumb. Individuals should be held accountable. Not genders. So 'hold men accountable for rape' and 'hold women accountable for false accusations' are dumb statements.
/r/MensRights14/05/21 03:15 AM
-8

Is 'hold women accountable for false accusations' any different than saying 'hold men accountable for rape'? Seems to me people should be held accountable for their actions. Not a gender.
/r/MensRights14/05/21 03:07 AM
0

But is that am opinion or a fact?
/r/MensRights13/05/21 09:53 PM
0

There are plenty of beautiful women that are overweight. They aren't as healthy. But they can still be beautiful.
/r/MensRights13/05/21 09:48 PM
1

Well, that's pretty messed up if true. Because every doctor I'm the world says otherwise. You have links to these videos? Though I really don't think this is a very common sentiment. Only a crazy person would think like that.
/r/MensRights13/05/21 09:19 PM
-5

I don't think anyone is saying obese people are ad healthy as fit people. Are you sure people are saying this?
/r/MensRights13/05/21 09:05 PM
-9

I really don't think feminists say you are obligated to be attracted to all women. They are saying that women shouldn't be ashamed of their bodies. And I agree. Neither should men. This is a weird post. Body positivity is a good thing for everyone.
/r/MensRights13/05/21 08:28 PM
-2

That's why I asked. You left the username on the screenshot and i did exactly that. I didn't see anything inflammatory.
/r/MensRights13/05/21 08:26 PM
3

How do you know she is a feminist?
/r/MensRights13/05/21 08:07 PM
10

This is a key reason for the discrepancy in male and female treatment programs. Every anonymous survey suggests women and men face most issues in equal numbers. But every police report and collection of formal complaints suggest it is mostly women suffering from these issues. So that's where funding gets funneled. You can't help people that don't ask for help. And there are countless stories of men not being helped because support systems aren't set up for men. So you get this feedback loop that…
/r/MensRights13/05/21 11:51 AM
15

It's a fake news website. This story isn't real.
/r/MensRights13/05/21 10:23 AM
7

While sleeping with a 17 year old is disgusting, people didn't seem to take huge issue with it in this thread. Personally, I think both are disgusting which is why that comment thread was off-putting. JAMES FRANCO
/r/MensRights12/05/21 10:24 PM
2

No. I'm saying mens rights should be about mens rights. Not about listing what people don't like about women. Modern women not being good enough is not an issue related to human rights.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 11:59 PM
2

Are you asking if successfully dating is a right? Because it's not.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 11:56 PM
2

Yes. Do you think 'nobody (women) has a fucking personality. No passions or interests or skills' is discussing unrealistic expectations of men? Is it discussing hatred of men? Or is that comments just generalizations about women that will make people think Mens rights is just a code word for misogyny?
/r/MensRights10/05/21 05:08 PM
3

FDS is garbage. And those people can wallow all they want in that hate fest. I don't even read that garbage because there is too much of it that is just attacking men. And people won't read this sub either if people feel this sub is attacking women.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 04:38 PM
1

I'm aware that it is a discussion of men's issues dealing with women in the dating game. And discussing mens issues is important. I just think mens issues and mens rights are 2 different conversations.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 04:22 PM
0

Women being boring and selfish is not a comment on man hating. What are you talking about? Commentary on man hating is far more relevant to mens issues as it is the reason for much of the inequality.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 04:11 PM
1

I am absolutely concerned with public opinion. I want the mens rights movement to be seen as a necessary and crucial step in the equal treatment of men in the countless areas they are not being treated fairly. I think everyone agrees that men deserve equality. Everyone is on board with that statement. But as soon as this becomes a laundry list of things people don't like about women, the movement loses credibility in the eyes of most people. And that will inhibit progress. So no, I don't have a …
/r/MensRights10/05/21 03:29 PM
2

I have never suggested ignoring any issues men face. I'm suggesting having different conversations in different spaces depending on what they are. Saying women today are boring and bring nothing to the table is quite simply, not a rights issue. It's a mens issue. I don't personally believe that but I'm open to discussing it. I just don't think we should discuss it in the same place we are advocating for equal rights in family court. Because I want as many people reading about equal rights in fam…
/r/MensRights10/05/21 02:41 PM
-1

Hating is a strong word. But commentary on issues with women today are not related to mens rights in my opinion. It's a mens issue that should be discussed. But not a right. Mens rights should be about advocating for equality in areas rife with inequality. Discussing things we don't like about being men is important but comments like the ones posted will muddy the lines between conversations about rights versus issues. As I said, we can make this a 'mens issues' group instead of a mens rights gr…
/r/MensRights10/05/21 02:25 PM
3

It's not 'issues that I feel most aligned with'. The subreddit is mens rights, not mens issues. I believe the intention is to achieve equality in areas that men are inequal in terms of rights and legal positioning. I don't think dating is a right. I don't think anyone does. I didn't choose myself which issues this sub should and shouldn't talk about. I think issues related to rights are what should be talked about because that's the name of the subreddit. I am not silencing anyone. I'm saying th…
/r/MensRights10/05/21 02:12 PM
2

I dont really understand what 'quarantined' means. Does it just mean there is a warning before you enter the subreddit? Because that doesn't prevent any dialogue or exchange of ideas among men. It just warns those entering that they may see things they don't like.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 02:02 PM
2

What MGTOW spaces have been destroyed? There are 2 subreddits called MGTOW and MGTOW2 and as far as I know they are still active.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 01:13 PM
5

These are acceptable conversations. No argument there. But a lack of men's shelters, bias in the family courts, mass incarceration, lack of funding for male issues. None of these are affected by women not being very interesting or only dating 6 foot men. Issues like social support, bias and incarceration are rights issues and should be engaged as such. Dating issues are social issues and men have no right to women they feel are interesting or attractive. Which is why I don't feel the issue fits …
/r/MensRights10/05/21 01:09 PM
-4

"I don't mean to disrespect women they are not objects but the majority have disgusting body counts" But don't the majority of men have disgusting body counts too? After all, for every woman that has sex with a man, a man has sex with a woman. This is just based on the sexist principles that women that sleep with men are gross and men that sleep with women are not. It's the logic of people with deep issues with women and frustrations with celibacy.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 07:01 PM
-25

I'm glad you've recovered from your delusions. Your clearly in a much healthier place now combing female subreddits for things to be mad at. Not sponsoring women is a great step, but not letting them live rent free in your head might be the next step.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 05:23 PM
23

It's important to be supportive of all the mothers out there. Like this
/r/MensRights09/05/21 02:57 PM
14

Fuck off with this. We all know violence against women isn't acceptable, but women need to understand that their actions are part of the problem. There would be less internet violence against women if women weren't being shitty on the internet.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 12:34 PM
5

I'm saying women want men to avoid them when crossing the street. They have made this clear via social meduam. and we should ignore that because treating women like delicate flowers is misogyny. So in this scenario, we have to completely ignore what women are saying to avoid being misogynists.
/r/MensRights07/05/21 01:01 PM
15

We are anti feminist. Because whatever issues she claims women face is a blatant lie made up by feminism to make men the bad guy. Feminists like her want superiority over you. Not equality.shes just waiting for a chance to meToo you to get a promotion.
/r/MensRights07/05/21 12:46 PM
7

Women have made it clear in social media that they want men to stay clear of them. Listening to that bull shit is blatant misogyny. Ironically, in this situation, you have to completely ignore women's feelings in order to not be a misogynist.
/r/MensRights07/05/21 12:43 PM
11

Yes. Many studies show that men are raped / assaulted as often as females. This definitely highlights that rape culture for men exists but rape culture for women is a myth. Either that, or rape is prevalent enough that rape culture exists for both genders. Either way, numbers are even so its both or none.
/r/MensRights06/05/21 12:48 PM
1

Checking to verify someone is telling you the truth shows a complete lack of trust and you're better off leaving. This is no different than people demanding paternity tests. If you don't trust your partner when they tell you something, you shouldn't be in the relationship.
/r/MensRights05/05/21 08:43 PM
16

Governments, feminists, the media, and the vast majority of the population all seem to think that women are disadvantaged in society. How is EVERYONE so wrong and why can only a handful of people see how obvious it is that men are the ones disadvantaged?
/r/MensRights05/05/21 06:03 AM
112

That's feminism for you. Even at 51%, wanting to push it higher. I don't know this company but they count as feminists because of this blatant attempt to create female supremacy.
/r/MensRights05/05/21 03:53 AM
8

Men lose more jobs and somehow its female jobs that are 'at risk'? Typical journalism just pushing the idea that women are the victims.
/r/MensRights05/05/21 02:23 AM
1

I don't mean to scare you, but this isn't rare, you have to shut off all relationships with women, and you can never be alone with a woman ever again...or I promise you that you will end up in jail for the rest of your life. That seems to be the common advice... But most men make it through life without being accused of sexual harassment. Just be respectful and ask for consent. And don't bang anyone too drunk to remember saying yes. You'll be fine.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 10:19 PM
1

Yeah. I pretty clearly said that. Kinda messed up how many people upvoted this.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 07:00 PM
53

Women are 10 times more likely to be admitted to the hospital than men for partner violence and 8 times more likely to go to the police but that doesn't mean women are not engaging in violence at all. Many of those incidents are directly related to her actions leading up to her being hospitalized.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 10:30 AM
436

Exactly. If he ends up not being the rapist and did 10 years just because he refused to admit to a crime he didn't do, he is a man of commitment, focus, and sheer fucking will.
/r/MensRights02/05/21 09:00 PM
-23

That's unfortunate. No one should be subjected to sexual violence. I hope those numbers get lower for men and women over time.
/r/MensRights02/05/21 03:26 AM
9

I think men should determine what behaviour is acceptable towards men. And what behaviour isn't acceptable towards men. Simultaneously, I think women should determine what behaviours are acceptable towards women and what behaviours aren't. And articles downplaying an act that women almost all agree is unacceptable is not an attempt to help men. Its an attempt to downplay near universally agreed upon bad behaviour. So maybe we can't let feminists decide what's sexual harassment and what isn't. Bu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/21 07:16 PM
-1

On point. If he was abusing her for years, it's just as much her fault for sticking around. Anyone who is being abused, male or female, is to blame for their abuse if they aren't leaving their partner. Shame on this women and all the other victims that aren't leaving.
/r/MensRights01/05/21 11:42 AM
2

Either this guy is a sexual predator, or 20 women that worked with him are willing to openly lie to the police. Hopefully time will tell and justice will be served.
/r/MensRights30/04/21 09:54 PM
29

Typical feminist. Wants women to do what they want and doesn't care who it hurts.
/r/MensRights30/04/21 08:30 PM
0

So you feel in order for men to get the help men need, we need to stop helping women? Because only one group can be helped at a time? I'm not disagreeing, I'm just not really sure I understand what you are saying.
/r/MensRights30/04/21 01:37 PM
0

"the men up there aren't there because they are men, no they are up there because their parens were eather rich or had connections or both." He's explaining why men are at the top comparstive to women. Which has nothing to do with parents and connections because men and women don't differ there. Gender of children is 50 50 regardless of how rich you are.
/r/MensRights30/04/21 01:20 PM
-1

No. Not at all. But I don't see how that's related. Op said men were up there because of money and connections but women are born into the same money and connections. That's obviously not why there is a gap.
/r/MensRights30/04/21 01:18 PM
-1

Are you under the impression that only men or women can be helped at any given time? Couldn't you help men and women in the areas help is needed?
/r/MensRights30/04/21 12:56 PM
-8

This isn't true. Men do not have richer parents with better connections than those who are parents of women. There is no social phenomenon happening in which men are better connected than women. The men up there are absolutely up there because they are men. Because men will aggressively try to make as much money as possible as opposed to taking safer paths. Jeff bezos has a sister. They had parents with the same connections and money. He's still doing better.
/r/MensRights30/04/21 12:32 PM
-1

Does it matter who has it better?
/r/MensRights30/04/21 12:17 PM
-5

I know women that won't walk home alone at night or get super drunk with strangers because they fear that men will rape them. I've told them that is is sexism and they don't even care. They will continually insist they don't take drinks from strange men at parties even though they have NO reason to suspect these men. It's sexism and it needs to stop. Being auspicious of strange men is unacceptable.
/r/MensRights29/04/21 11:37 PM
4

White men have it harder than all of those groups today. I would say write it on white men and be ready for hell fire.
/r/MensRights29/04/21 05:42 PM
1

I think many men face some tough positions in a society that cares more about female problems. I also believe feminism has done some bad things under the guise of 'equality'. But I do think too many people just refer to any woman saying or doing something they don't like as 'feminists' so that they can say they only hate feminists, not women. It's not like these feminists are walking around with pussy hats on all the time. We don't really know who the feminists are... But a Woman makes a post on…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/21 04:38 PM
1

61 percent of women identifiy as feminists. Why is it wrong to dislike women when the majority of them have no problem with male oppression? https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/07/07/61-of-u-s-women-say-feminist-describes-them-well-many-see-feminism-as-empowering-polarizing/
/r/MensRights29/04/21 01:00 PM
34

Completely bull. Rape is rape. Whether it's a man violently raping a woman or a woman getting a man drunk and not taking no for an answer the crime is rape. And both rapists should be in jail. Refusing to call it by its name doesn't help anything.
/r/MensRights28/04/21 02:30 PM
3

Yes! Can you imagine just posting articles about crimes women commit or bad things women have done just to complain about women? You'd get shut down within days.
/r/MensRights27/04/21 09:59 PM
19

Everyone in the comments agreed that it was a dumb and dated practice that shouldn't be done anymore. And they seemed very supportive of the issue. The overwhelming majority seem to care quite a bit about bodily autonomy. I don't see a reason to turn this into something negative about how society doesn't care about men.
/r/MensRights27/04/21 01:47 PM
-7

Why would the criminal justice system be involved with a woman getting fired?
/r/MensRights27/04/21 11:02 AM
2

Not enough men are allowed to be present in their child's life. Most single moms are single moms by choosing to exclude the father. We definitely need more fathers to be allowed to raise their kids. But also paper abortions so that any father can permanently leave their kids as well. Both need to happen.
/r/MensRights27/04/21 10:40 AM
1

Brutal. It will take ages for this man to recover from this. Since when is it inappropriate for a 37 year old man to sleep with his 19 year old employee?
/r/MensRights27/04/21 01:40 AM
11

Women weren't held back by sexism and they still aren't. They are held back by not being as motivated as men are.
/r/MensRights26/04/21 03:18 PM
-24

How is attacking men like this acceptable? Women absolutely should listen to unqualified men about their personal reproductive health. This is just pointed sexism.
/r/MensRights26/04/21 02:42 PM
5

Exactly. We don't think rape should be legal, we just think the burden of proof needs to be higher and conviction rates for rape need to be lower than they are now. But that does mean less rapists go to jail so feminists will always paint MRAs as pro-rape.
/r/MensRights26/04/21 11:33 AM
41

One less feminist to deal with. Although most women feel this way so be prepared to lose a lot of friends if you bring up your support for mens rights.
/r/MensRights25/04/21 05:45 PM
-7

What issues do MRAs acknowledge that women have? I think women have it pretty good so what are these issues you speak of that MRAs think women have?
/r/MensRights25/04/21 10:20 AM
26

Meanwhile, false accusations are legal 365 days.
/r/MensRights24/04/21 03:32 PM
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