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OP writes a lot of fictional stories designed to teach lessons. Today's lesson is "learn game" and "women will double-cross you". There's a reason that OP's history is hidden.
/r/seduction26/07/26 11:37 PM
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I said that I got 12 numbers. It's NOT the number of women that I approached. I get a vibe for the situation and decide whether or not to ask for the number. I'm just pointing out the awful ROI on approaching in person. But there aren't a lot of better solutions. The only possibility I see now is moving to a different city. I am in a city which is known to have more men than women, which makes everything more difficult.
/r/seduction25/07/26 07:05 PM
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The apps have mostly been crap in terms of quality, effort, and the "women don't look like their pictures" problem, so I also have been doing more in-person approaches. I'll talk to women in bars or wherever, and will have maybe a 15 minute conversation to get a vibe, let her get to know me a bit, and feel like there's a chance that a date could happen. Of the 12 phone numbers I've gotten this year, 11 out of 12 didn't even bother to respond to my text message. The one who did respond - I had me…
/r/seduction24/07/26 08:50 PM
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"standard things" in reference to an obscure medical paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 05:13 AM
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Women not liking short men has been a thing for a long time, and it's not just super hot women: https://youtu.be/ZbG05ePWRQE?t=312
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 05:59 PM
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Or they'll reject it because it sounds like a creative writing exercise.
/r/seduction18/07/26 05:07 PM
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Posting this again: Men rated themselves as "5.9" on average, women rated themselves "6.9" on average. Also, 5% of men and 10% of women rated themselves a "10", and a much higher percentage of men than women rated themselves as a "1". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUYq7WpCmbo 94% of women say that they are more attractive than the average woman. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/329327914_Almost_every_woman_thinks_she%27s_hotter_than_the_average_Differences_in_self-assessments_of_physic…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 11:30 PM
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Men rated themselves as "5.9" on average, women rated themselves "6.9" on average. Also, 5% of men and 10% of women rated themselves a "10", and a much higher percentage of men than women rated themselves as a "1". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUYq7WpCmbo 94% of women and 78% of men say that they are more attractive than the average (of their own gender). https://www.researchgate.net/publication/329327914_Almost_every_woman_thinks_she%27s_hotter_than_the_average_Differences_in_self-assessment…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:20 PM
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That shows how out of step modern society is with ancient history. What you're doing is trying to justify why a woman who's a "5" should get a man who's a "7". But in modern society, we also expect men to raise their kids, and if they're not together, he's at least paying child support. This means that men should be more selective about who they pair-up with. It's a 20 year commitment for a single child. We don't live in polygamous societies anymore or societies where lots of men are killed (whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:10 PM
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Things aren't looking too good for the most recent generations. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 10:56 PM
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The fact it has a mental health name means it is actually rare, not universal. I'll agree that hybristophilia is not something that the majority of women have. However, there are mental health names for things that are common. Fear of public speaking, or glossophobia, is incredibly common, affecting up to 75% of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 05:19 PM
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Next you're going to tell me that John Wayne Gacy struggled with women!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 05:16 PM
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I approached about 15-18 women. Got the phone numbers of about a dozen. The others either gave an evasive vibe, seemed weird or whatever. I messaged all of the women, usually the next day - and my message was either small talk about how the rest of their night was, or asking them out for a drink. I generally send two text messages, or three if I really liked her and wanted to give her another chance. If I don't hear back, I just give up on her. 11 out of 12 never replied to my text messages. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 05:08 PM
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Except that I'm right. There's plenty of teenage girls who obsess over guys in their school who are much more disinterested later in life. Have you seen videos of crazy, screaming, fainting teenage girls in the 1960s over the Beatles? You really think grown women are doing that same thing? You sound like you might never have heard of the "boy crazy" concept. Here's a definition so you can get up to speed on it: The phrase "boy crazy" is a colloquial term describing a period, often during adolesc…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 01:21 AM
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Yeah, that's not true. There have been women that I've hooked up with a few times, and they didn't want to date me for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:33 PM
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It's different when women are in their "boy crazy" phase of life - which lasts for maybe a year or two of their life. When women aren't in their "boy crazy" phase, they're not nearly as interested in giving attention to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 06:21 PM
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It's not true that all/most men are just looking for sex, but some are. Also, they might be looking to date you (not just sex), but that can also seen as a threat to your husband. It's basically a "treat every gun like it's loaded" scenario. Also, just because you're loyal doesn't mean that guy isn't going to try to worm his way into your life and try to seduce you. Basically "he's so helpful (but I'm taken)" -> "He's a good friend" -> "Oh, he's so sweet and listens to me" -> "Oh, I somehow ende…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 07:19 PM
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I don't think this is well thought out. Also saying "I believe X" does not inherently mean that they believe some extreme version of "I believe X". "A woman would never do something that cruel" Are women incapable of cruelty? Are all women the caretaker? That's not what "a woman would never do something that cruel" means. It doesn't mean that "women are incapable of cruelty" or "all women are the caretaker". It's assigning moral virtue to women that you wouldn't assign to men; that women are gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:18 PM
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This post of reminds me of some old-school posts in PPD where guys would post screenshots from Jezebel where they'd show two articles: one article talking about how empowering and wonderful sex toys are for women, and another article where they'd talk about how creepy men are for having sex toys. Example: https://imgur.com/tw-not-tumblr-jezebel-demonstrates-its-deep-understanding-of-sexual-liberation-cty7mBu There are definitely double-standards going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 08:38 PM
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We lose value as women the more men we let into our lives. The only time we don't lose value in society's eyes in regards to men is if we married as a virgin or died before having sex. That's obvious hyperbole. First, "the more men we let into our lives" is such a weirdly vague phrase. It could mean anything from "friends with guys" to actual sex. Let's be honest about what you're saying: "We lose value as women the more men we sleep with". Even that is hyperbole unless you're talking about high…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 08:29 PM
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I've personally found white men and women to be the most dangerous race there is. Lol. That's so absurd I have to wonder what you're smoking. Try being a woman traveling in Egypt or India. It's so incredibly unsafe. Or how about South Africa: Population-based studies in South Africa have historically indicated extremely high rates of rape perpetration among men. Research from the Medical Research Council (MRC) revealed that between 15% and 37% of surveyed men (depending on the region) admitted t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:03 AM
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Now they see a hot woman and fantasize about Chad sleeping with her and get angry. Kinda of a weird thing to hear from a person with a rage-baity username like "NoShortMen4Me". You're basically criticizing men for creating imaginary ragebait, while providing your own ragebait to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:21 PM
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I'm a man. I've traveled extensively. Yes, you have to be proactive about meeting and talking to people - people in your room, people in the kitchen, people hanging out. I've been to plenty of stuff (bars, museums, etc) with other travelers. It's not quite as "single" of an experience as you say it is - although you do have to be proactive about meeting other travelers. As far as women: I don't know how often they actually hookup with guys, but I will say that men want women more than women want…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:11 PM
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On one hand, I think women might have an advantage in the sense that they might have a better idea what women want, based on having lived as a woman. (Men cannot be faulted for not having that advantage.) Although, women also say that "women aren't a monolith", which suggests that they might not actually know what other women want, they just think they do. On the other hand, I think it would be a total disaster for most women. Women would give vague hints and wonder why women weren't responding …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 07:36 PM
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You don't actually know how much men and women are swiping. You have to know that in order for your math to work. For example, each day, if women spend 5 minutes on app and the swipe right once a day, they aren't getting 7.36 matches per day. It wouldn't surprise me at if women were spending far less time swiping on profiles than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:47 PM
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Also, men do the exact same thing, but I guess that’s not as commonly reported. Yes, men's likes are skewed towards more attractive women. But it's not as extreme, so it's not "the exact same thing". First: the data on how skewed men's and women's dating swipes are skewed to the "top" people. Article from 2017 from a guy who worked at Hinge: while half of all likes sent to women on the dating app go to 25% of the female population, half of all likes sent to men go to a much smaller section – jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:16 AM
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The fact that you used an example of a guy doing a bad job of talking to a woman, and then jumping to the conclusion that this is men's problem more generally and it's "never been easier" is a obvious logical fallacy. Maybe this falls into the "nut picking" fallacy The nutpicking fallacy—also known in academic circles as the weak-man fallacy—is a rhetorical tactic where someone intentionally seeks out the most extreme, fringe, or irrational members of a group and presents them as if they are typ…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:37 PM
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I do think that men somewhat push-back against sweeping generalizations of men. But men tend not to push back so much if it's a compliment towards that man combined with a sweeping negative generalization against men. For example: "Men are dogs" is going to get pushback. And the implication is that you - the man hearing this - is a dog, just like all the other men. "You're not like other guys, most men are dogs" is not going to get much pushback because it's a relative compliment and puts him ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:03 AM
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Women have much stronger in-group bias than men. both male and female participants tend to assign positive traits to women, with female participants showing a far more pronounced bias... This research found that while both women and men have more favorable views of women, women's in-group biases were 4.5 times stronger than those of men. Furthermore, only women (not men) showed cognitive balance among in-group bias, identity, and self-esteem, revealing that men lack a mechanism that bolsters aut…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:56 PM
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That's good in theory, but it isn't going to happen. Part of the problem is that, if any significant number of men started removing their attention towards women, then male attention would become slightly more valuable, which means that the horniest guys are just going to take advantage of the fact that women are slightly easier. Also, there are men in lots of different subcultures. Even if you convince men in your own subculture (say, middle class white men), there's still lots of other guys in…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 05:34 PM
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Are you under the impression that 30 35 year-old dudes are interested in dating 70 year-old women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 04:02 PM
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Correct. I've seen the same thing. I had one ex-girlfriend who, after I broke up with her for cheating, jumped from one guy to the next multiple times with little to no time in between. It made me angry that someone can be a liar and a cheater and suffer no consequences at all because she's a woman and has men lining up to get with her. I saw something similar with my friend's female roommate - she was constantly changing guys, and she was pretty average looking. The fact of the matter is what w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:07 AM
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You do know that there are slightly more women than men in existence, right? Sure, but that's ONLY because women live longer. If I was looking to date women who were 70+ years old, I'd have my pick. Here's the gender ratios in San Diego, CA. The total number of men and women is about the same, but when you break it down by age-group, I'm sure you can see the problem for men who are trying to date. Keep in mind that if you subtract-out all the men and women who are already in relationships, the n…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:48 AM
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I remember a study a while back where they asked college students how many sexual partners they've had in the past. They asked men and women. They also varied the conditions around the survey: a survey that was not anonymous, a survey that was anonymous, and a survey where they pretended that they hooked the subjects up to a lie detector. They found that women's reported number of sexual partners was lowest in the "non anonymous" survey, higher in the "anonymous" survey, and even higher in the "…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:39 PM
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I've had similar thoughts about guys with ADHD. Women want to be entertained all the time and pay attention to the guys who draw attention to themselves, and so a guy who's quiet and introverted is going to be seen as "boring". Makes me wonder if humanity is evolving towards a bunch of distractable ADHD idiots because people stupidly see it as appealing for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:58 PM
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You mean men who do things and are interesting? No offense, but I have no idea how you jumped from hyperactive to "do things and are interesting". That's one hell of a stretch. When I think "hyperactive", I think fidgety, talkative, frequently starting new things but can't finish anything because he's constantly getting distracted. Sometimes people here seem to go out of their way to divert away from any actual dialogue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 05:55 PM
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Does that convert to adulthood though? Sounds like you're making a supposition that it doesn't. Lots of shy-er teenage boys turn into decent men that women are more interested in. Yeah, I don't think that's true at all. Women still chase the confident guys, even if they are a dumpster-fire. Many teenage 'jocks' turn into messy adults who cant reliably hold down jobs/relationships etc. "Many" is such a vague word. There are "many" shy teenage boys who go on to have terrible dating lives, too. I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:22 PM
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This is why it’s good that women read manosphere forums and live their lives according to what men say about men. If we're going by what anonymous forums say, there's quite a few forums full of women (like FemaleDatingStrategy and I can think of quite a few others), which doesn't paint women in a good light, either. Should men take those as "the real truth" about what women are like?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:14 PM
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That book makes me think of other manosphere books that paint all women as terrible. I've looked at a few of them, like "The Manipulated Man" (basically a book that says that women collectively manipulate and control men for their benefit). It was written by a woman, by the way. It seemed rather toxic and unrealistic, so I didn't read very far into the book before deciding it wasn't worth finishing. There was another one I had started reading about some guy's terrible dating experiences with Ame…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:54 AM
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That's true that ugly men cheat, too. I think it's related to how much of a "dog" that guy is. There are guys I see at the bar who seem like they're always trying to get laid, and they have low standards in women, so they'll be hitting on all different women, but they have a short attention span for any one woman. If a guy seems to be on the prowl for sex all the time, he's the type of guy who's going to get bored quickly and cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:45 AM
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You're misinterpreting the meaning of "demand". Nobody thinks women are walking around telling random men on the street that they need to be this or that. In context, it means "women demand x,y,z in order to be 'good enough' to date them". Employers "demand" that people they hire have a college degree. It doesn't mean that companies are walking around yelling at people "you must have a college degree!" Leonardo DiCaprio demands that the women he dates are young, thin, and beautiful. He isn't wal…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:35 PM
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Personally, it would feel pretty crappy to be around someone who doesn't want to have sex with me. It's actually easier to be alone than to be constantly seen as undesirable by your spouse. If I was married, and that woman was physically incapable for medical reasons to have sex, that would be much more psychologically tolerable situation than not having sex because she didn't want me. That says something about the need to be desired by the person you love - it's not as simple as "I need sex!". …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 08:42 PM
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I suppose it depends on how you interpret it. I read it as "men are unsuitable to be anything other than a dumb bodyguard for the superior feminine", which I definitely disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 04:21 PM
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I knew a guy kind of like that. He was a huge stoner, was pretty laid back, very talkative, and would constantly try to talk women into sleeping with him. I don't know how often he'd smoke weed with them to get them to "loosen up" enough to sleep with him. He was very complimentary - and I don't even think he was lying, he just genuinely thought positively of everyone, including women that had issues that he shouldn't sleep with. Because he thought positively of everyone, he'd completely ignore …
/r/seduction25/04/26 06:13 PM
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As I said elsewhere, there is no universal scale that everyone agrees on. People's opinions can often vary by 2 points - so a guy who's generally a "5" might be perceived as anywhere from a 3-7, depending on the woman. This isn't some objective measurement like height or weight, where there is an objective measurement. But the fact that there is flexibility in the scale does not mean it's wrong. Demanding that's it's perfectly objective, and then throwing it away because it isn't perfectly objec…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:59 AM
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no human woman thinks this way It doesn't matter if women don't think that way. It matters that women behave that way. So, according to you, if I put a bunch of women in a room and asked them whether they were more attracted to an "objectively handsome guy with a great personality and other positive traits" man or an "objectively ugly with a boring personality and other negative traits" man, that you have no idea which guy would get more likes? Seems like a ludicrous position to hold.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:52 AM
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You're speaking from the perspective of a single person. Of course everyone is going to fall into two or three categories if you're speaking as an individual. That's not the point of the 1-10 scale, though. If you have ten people in a room and they are deciding on the attractiveness of a person, a person with a high rating (say 8-10) is going to be liked by more people than a person with a low rating (say 1-3). Also, the more attractive the viewer is, the less likely they are going to want be at…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 06:27 PM
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I think that the 1-10 scale is somewhat imprecise - it's not an objective measurement like height or weight. However, it has some validity. In general, you can expect people's "rating" to be plus or minus 2 points, depending on what person is looking at them. A person who might be a "5" could be seen as anywhere from a 3-7, depending on the person. Sure, there's some value in how well you vibe with someone. Also, some traits tend to be perceived as positive or negative, depending on the viewer. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 04:03 PM
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A lot of the difference can be explained by the question "who is getting blamed?" If you criticize women for only being attracted to the top 20% or how women overvalue tall men, then you are blaming women. Women feel attacked, which prompts denial. If you say "most modern men are so shitty. I feel like there's only a few guys to go around for most of us amazing women." then you've put the blame on men for being shitty and not being better. In that scenario, women are great and men are lacking.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 05:28 PM
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Here's me approaching two 6-foot tall blondes to show you what I mean: https://youtube.com/shorts/XQZEhZwbC40 "Video unavailable"
/r/seduction15/04/26 06:49 PM
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the existence of female Chads. A long time ago, I saw some numbers around how attractiveness correlates with number of sexual partners. For men, it's a positive correlation - good looking guys had a disproportionate number of partners, ugly men had a fewer partners than average or attractive guys. But, for women it was different. There wasn't much of a correlation at all. It seemed like the explanation is that women are in such high demand among men that the main factor in the number of sex part…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:48 AM
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Yeah, I saw that, too. My guess is that they didn't want to include bisexual men in the survey because it's easy for men to rack-up a partner count if they sleep with men. That could skew the numbers of men claiming 7+ partners in the past year. For women: it seems like there's a lot of women who identify as bisexual. I saw a survey claiming that something like 20% of young women claim to be bisexual. Also, women don't rack-up large numbers of partners with other women, because women seem to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:41 AM
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I looked at the STD graphs on the website, and also double checked the information on Google. I thought this was interesting: the ratio of men and women with chlamydia and gonorrhea depends on age. Young women are more likely than young men to have either of those STDs, but older men are more likely than older women to have either of those STDs. It sort of seems like it might give some support to the "chads" getting with young women under 25 or 30 years-old, which is probably when a lot of young…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 05:17 AM
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Agreed. Maybe the small number of things she lists are enough to be successful as a woman in the dating world, but it definitely is NOT enough for a man in the dating world. EDIT: This conversation reminds me of that Steve Harvey clip of the woman with 50 requirements she wants in a man: https://i.imgur.com/pW5CIyb.gifv
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:43 PM
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Funny, I was thinking recently that Stocism is probably more common among men because men have to endure a lot of rejection, disinterest, people not caring, etc. Plus it's a turn off for women if men are too emotional, which plays into reinforcing masculine gender roles (which are reinforced by women).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:40 PM
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If men’s peak attraction is to women aged 18–24 Not sure why you're using "peak attractiveness" or assuming men only like women in that age range. I'm on dating apps, and I don't even have my age preferences set to anyone in the 18-24 age range. Sure, there's some physically attractive younger women, but that's not all that's involved in attraction. Also: it's well documented that women lose attraction more quickly in relationships than men: Wives lose that loving feeling much faster than husban…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 01:39 AM
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Seems like the wrong way to look at things. If I cold-approach a woman, it's because I liked how she looked. But that's only the first step. It doesn't mean I want to sleep with her. I want to see if she meets other criteria: What's her vibe? Is she weird or a jerk? Is she seem mean, boring, vain, or into money? Just because I cold-approached you doesn't mean there aren't other hurdles you have to handle before I know whether or not I want to date or sleep with you. But, sure, for some guys, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 07:24 PM
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vast majority of women aren't like that. The majority of women ARE like that. Sure, some will approach a man. Usually, they'll be avoid being forward about it - they'll act platonically and hope you get the hint to make a move. k-pop idols or celebrity crushes are very popular among girls. do you think women will act reluctant around those "dream men" First of all, most women will be reluctant around those k-pop stars. But when a guy has a million fangirls, and 10% of them aren't reluctant, then…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 07:01 PM
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painter Assuming you were a good painter. She would probably cringe at most painters work. parachuter She'd probably make you stop doing that after a while because she doesn't want to worry about you dying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 06:53 PM
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Under videos where women are physically attacked, there are always comments from men celebrating it or framing it as some kind of revenge for feminism. Not sure what you're talking about. I remember years ago, some YouTubers created some videos where a man was attacking a woman, and videos with a woman attacking a man. People were WAY more comfortable with a woman attacking a man than the opposite. People had some variation of feeling uncomfortable or sometimes smiling when a woman attacking a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 06:39 PM
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Height is an advantage in dating like height is an advantage playing basketball. Yeah, you can be tall and do poorly in dating and basketball, but it's obviously an advantage in both cases. There was a study once that looked at height and the odds that someone played in the NBA. They found that every additional inch of height doubled the statistical likelihood of someone playing in the NBA. So, a 6'6" man was 4000x more likely to play in the NBA than a 5'6" man. But yeah, there are tall men who …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:14 PM
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I disagree with the idea that banter and creating tension reveal some kind of valuable, positive trait. This is all a big "just so" story. For example, sometimes people are just nice and feel bad about unnecessarily creating tension or stress. There are also psychopaths who enjoy creating tension and end up more successful in dating. They unnecessarily create tension for shits and giggles because they like to mess with people and have no empathy. I also think this shows how little "dating succes…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:04 PM
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I mean ... capitalism and feminism are sometimes in alignment with each other. Capitalism wants more workers, both because it wants more workers doing work, but also because adding women to the workforce reduces workers' power for higher wages. Feminism also wants women to join the workforce, because it gives them independence from men - regardless of whether those women are single or married.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 04:32 PM
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Are we talking about Myron? Isn't he the guy who tried to pressure a woman into sex if she was going to be on his show (essentially prostitution - since he's trying to offer media exposure to her in return for sex with him)? Using exposure (which translates into money) to get laid doesn't sound like much of a ladies-man. And that woman that Myron was dating - wasn't she his first girlfriend? Myron just seems like a mouthy loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:19 PM
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Also Fat women are also extremely repulsive and unattractive I'd bet that fat women are seen as more attractive by men than fat men are seen as attractive by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 09:16 PM
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It doesn't work that way. If physique was 100% of the basis for judging men, then yeah, your math would work. But if physique is 25% of the basis for judging men, then being in the top 23% in the category that accounts for 25% of the traits that women want doesn't put you into the top 23%. There's a whole lot of other traits - height, being handsome, keeping her constantly entertained, having the right hair color, dressing the "right way", being popular, etc. (It's all very exhausting.)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 06:01 PM
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everything you observe is undeniable truth That's a strawman. Also, asking women why they like a guy suffers from either outright lying (so not seem shallow), self-deception (to maintain a self-image of having "good" reasons for liking that guy), or simply confabulating reasons that they were attracted to a guy when they don't fully know themselves. And I could ask the same thing: do you think that everything a woman says is undeniable truth? No? Then why would you use that as a criticism of guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 06:37 PM
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They just try once and shut down and never try again. I don't know how you would know that. Sounds more like an assumption based on a negative bias against men who struggle in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:13 PM
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I don't know why it's a big revelation to women in this comment-section that women are cruel, too. Have they never been the target of a female bully? All the cliquishness, ostracizing girls they don't like, spreading false rumors to demean women they don't like, mean girl behavior? I've heard of some very cruel behavior by women - not so much getting in physical fights, but in various types of emotional warfare. I remember hearing about one girl in high school who had a circle of friends. One da…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:09 PM
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Men are more likely than women to think women are flirting with them when we are just being nice. Not sure what that has to do with that situation. She was very obviously dancing up to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 07:01 PM
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You mean people are happy when people displaying bad behavior get called-out? But this guy did nothing wrong. Those are two very different situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:57 PM
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That's because "it's rare" and "it never happens" are two different things. Your example might prove that "it never happens" is wrong, but it doesn't prove that "it's rare" is wrong. I can point to women who are morbidly obese and still manage to get boyfriends, but that doesn't mean that morbidly obese women aren't punished in the dating market. In other words: a man who is "emotionally vulnerable, non-masculine and has a dad bod" is punished in the dating market. It doesn't mean he has zero ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 04:07 AM
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Is it "men have no standards day" or "men only want the top women day"? Here's a YouTube video that helps answer the question of whether men/women have crazy high standards: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHdO4uMD2Us Also, it's women who are the ones saying stuff like "I'm only attracted to maybe 1% of men".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 07:15 PM
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they are ones that are usually against abortion Views on abortion are not heavily divided by gender. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 07:02 PM
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Personally, I think you're full of shit, and can't believe all the people eating it up. In my experience, most women I meet on dating apps look significantly worse than their pictures, and I have no interest in sleeping with them. Some are crazy. Some are much fatter than their pictures. Some are using significantly older pictures. One time I had one woman show up on a date and I'm convinced she was a trans-woman but never mentioned it in her profile, and was using pictures of a different woman …
/r/seduction10/02/26 05:45 AM
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They're running the Female Dating Strategy podcast and website. There's also books like this: How to Train A Man Like A Dog To Be The Man You Want: A Woman's Guide to Taming Men If you’ve been wondering why it’s so hard to find a good man, how men think, how they work, why they lie, cheat, deceive, and manipulate women, then you’re not alone. Hundreds of thousands of women are wondering the same thing. The answer is good men aren’t born, they’re trained. Lying, cheating, deception, and manipulat…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:42 AM
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Yeah, I don't believe it makes it better for average men. That's just a cope. I can make an argument for it going either direction: Either, the "manosphere" men are terrible and that raises the relative value of average guys who aren't into the manosphere, OR the "manosphere" men are terrible and it causes women to be mistrustful of all men and want retribution against men (as a group) and are therefore, less likely to date or trust the average non-manosphere man (because she can't tell which me…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:38 AM
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While I don't believe one company should control 80% of the dating market, I don't believe that it's the reason why dating apps are bad. Also, Bumble is independent from Match Group (who is the giant conglomerate who owns most of the dating apps/websites). Yes, things were better 10 years ago, and a big part of that is the fact that women have disproportionately abandoned the platforms. 10 years ago, dating apps were new, novel, and exciting because nobody had seen anything like it - so the gend…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:51 PM
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she's not allowed to have standards for what she finds attractive? And that's true for the basement-dwelling idiots who only wants women who look like instagram influencers? I don't think most women would agree with that. I've seen women on PPD complain about how men only want supermodels (or some exaggerated claim). It's a problem when people have standards outside of what they bring to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:46 PM
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And this is actually men's fault because they insist on giving their attention and energy to women for just existing. To be clear: it's caused by men collectively - and by "collectively", I mean the small number of men with low standards (and I've known some of these guys - guys who want almost every woman they meet). It doesn't matter what I do - as an individual man - because if I set my standards to reasonable levels, there's always some guy who's willing to undercut me. Imagine this analogy:…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 03:59 AM
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You have to understand that natural selection is not necessarily a force which benefits humanity, the improvement of the species, or species in general. People like to use "natural selection" in a tautological way to say that everyone who reproduced was supposed to reproduce and everyone who didn't wasn't supposed to reproduce. Any evidence that it isn't true is met with a religious-like "I assume that they had traits that were bad". A while back, I heard a guy talk about how he went to a religi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 07:08 PM
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It's weird how women suddenly sound like Republicans when the topic of dating inequality comes up. Men: "Dating is harder for men." Women: "Nah, average men get dates." Liberal: "It's unfair that black people are discriminated against in the job market. Just putting a black name on a resume, while keeping everything else the same, lowers the rate of responses from companies." Republicans: "I see black people with jobs, so that's not true!"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:27 PM
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There's plenty of videos like this of women being shocked at how terrible it is for men: https://www.tiktok.com/@ok.jo.anna/video/7407862822891293998 I've also seen videos of trans people saying that dating became a lot easier after they did a MtF transition, and trans men saying that things got a lot harder after they did a FtM transition.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 06:21 PM
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Those are some crazy stories. But they are not typical. They are heavily cherry-picked stories. It sounds like they asked people to come up with their worst first date stories. The problem I have with this post is that all of the stories are rare. I've never done anything like stuff on that list, and yet, I still often fail to get second dates. That should tell you that there's something else going on -- including the possibility that women are picky. Let me turn it around: out of all the first …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:59 AM
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I think the issue is that you think about the issue differently than men do, and you are assuming men's motivations. First, I don't think men will pick just anybody. Thinking back to the statistics around Tinder: the numbers are that men swipe right on about 40% of women. And, even among that 40%, women will tell you that the man often doesn't send her a message. It's true that some guys indiscriminately swipe right, and then decide later, based on who matched with him, whether to pursue things.…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:42 AM
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but since you asked Women have WAY less propensity to cheat Young women cheat as often as young men. <image> Source: https://ifstudies.org/ifs-admin/resources/cheatingbyageandgender-w640.png
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:44 AM
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It's obvious that you're pissed at men, and want men to suffer collectively for the problems created by some men. The problem with this is that men aren't collectively making women suffer. If you're not differentiating between liberal and conservative men or between men who treat women well and those who don't, then you're shooting yourself in the foot. The analogy to dogs doesn't even make sense. Imagine that you own a doggy daycare. Imagine that several of the dogs are misbehaving. Now, your s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:57 PM
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There are plenty of "manchildren" that are married and in long term relationships. There are plenty of good men who are not married or in long term relationships. I don't see much of a correlation between "being manchildren" and being in a long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 07:36 PM
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I don't think you understand what the term "nice guy" is. It's meant to describe men who put on a facade, pretending to be friendly to women they want to sleep with, then turn to insulting / demeaning or rude when she declines his offer. I don't think you know what the word "nice" or "nice guy" means. The actual meaning of "nice" is good. In internet-speak, "nice guy" (or 'nice girl") is used sarcastically against men/women who are not nice. So it has two completely contradictory definitions, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 08:03 PM
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The chivalrous knight trope isn't sexy because he's chivalrous, he's sexy because he's a fucking knight. And, meanwhile, most of society will tell you that he's desirable because he's chivalrous. Now imagine you're a peasant who is chivalrous, and aren't getting good results. And then people explain your poor success as "it's because you aren't treating women as human beings" or some BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:45 PM
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Absolutely not. Being eqalitarian does nothing to help men with women. Women are perfectly happy to date, bang, and marry Republican men. Being superior to her activates her hypergamous impulse. Treating her as an equal causes her to see you as insufficient. There's a reason that incels come from all over the political spectrum - even though rightwingers are more likely to look down on women. It's a "just world hypothesis" that people think that eqalitarianism leads to any increased success with…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:30 PM
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I mean you're right. But the flip side is that men have no control over what other men do, and men have to compete in the dating market against other men. Add on top of that the fact that men outnumber women in the prime dating age of 20-40 - both on a population level and especially in terms of the ratio of single men vs single women - and that shifts power towards women in the dating market. Some men have adapted to this by lowering their standards, which forces other guys to lower their stand…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 07:15 PM
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as a 10% user . I average 20-50 new matches a day, If you're getting 20-50 new matches per day, you are absolutely not in the top 10%. You're in the top 1% or, more likely, the top 0.1%. I feel like you're either lying about your number of matches or catfishing. But other than that, I think this post is largely correct. Women put men through the ringer and are excessively demanding - and not just about looks, but about everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 05:40 PM
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That’s not to deride monogamy, but if girls want to want to ‘live a little’ with my boys? They should have the freedom to do so Seems like that depends an awful lot on whether women are actually getting what they want. In a lot of cases, people delude themselves into wishful thinking - like the idea that she's going to get that guy as a boyfriend and marry him. If she actually knew what she was getting, she would be less interested in it. Isn't that the appeal of a ponzi scheme - you think you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:57 PM
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tell Chads to date their looksmatch. I can imagine multiple reasons for that: - Men are typically less willing to listen to people telling them what to do (e.g. crime) - Telling a guy "leave some for the rest of us" sounds weak and pathetic. - Telling a guy not to do something is more likely to result in getting punched than telling a woman not to do something. - When Chad dates down, he gets what he wants: a short-term hookup. When women date up and end up getting "used for sex", it's both posi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:48 PM
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What's the point of this post? That the "ideal man" is unattainable and women have unrealistic demands of men? People like to complain that men have unrealistic body standards for women (even though I've seen more men than women willing to date fat partners). Reading your list, it sounds to me like you're saying unrealistic standards for men is good. Why are unrealistic standards okay for men, but bad when placed on women? Meanwhile, being a good woman is attainable. Also, given the fact that ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 07:50 PM
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and would always put her first over his own adventures... Selfish to the point of doing anything for her snd her needs/wants always coming first What are you talking about? Loki would be the first person to ditch his woman for another woman. He'd abandon his children for his next selfish adventure to gain power. He doesn't care about her, and never will. This is such a bizarre take. It shows that people's wishful thinking is far more powerful than any real, objective appraisal of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:59 PM
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Out of the 2 he’s the better partner In no way is that true [that Loki is the better partner]. If women prefer Loki, then your comment proves is that the ideal of the good man is not what women want and OP is completely wrong: the thing that women want is a mentally-ill murderous criminal. That means women's preferences are the opposite of a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:35 PM
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She's a doormat to be taken advantage of It suddenly makes sense why women on PPD think any guy who is "kind" is seen as a doormat - because anybody who doesn't kick ass and take names is seen as a doormat. This is a really bizarre way of thinking and ends up harming both men and women. It harms men and women because it pathologizes not being the hyper-capitalistic ass kicker.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:33 PM
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Men are, on average, five inches taller than women. So, of course the whole "women are hypergamous for dating men who are taller than them" is dumb .... if you stop there. But studies have shown that women prefer a man who's eight inches taller than herself. A study on women's and men’s height preferences found that women are most satisfied when their partner was 8 inches (21cm) taller. Men are most satisfied when they are 3 inches (8cm) taller than their partners. Another study found that among…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 01:03 AM
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Does that mean men should hold back on what they do for women? "Sorry, you haven't earned the right for me to pay for your meal yet." "Sorry, I'm not going to plan a date because you haven't earned it yet." "Sorry, I'm not buying you flowers because we haven't moved in together yet." It's just a stingy way to live life. Also, a major way that relationships work is by being generous towards each other. I'm not one of those "women need to cook for me" guys, but if a woman never cooked for me befor…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 09:40 PM
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I like how the commenter above you answered the question about changing gender roles from the 1970s with "when was the last time you hunted food?", as if men in the 1970s had to hunt for food. You know - the 1970s, when our clothing was deerskin and men had to bring home meat that was hunted or else the family would go hungry that night.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:34 PM
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If a man is a net negative to a woman's life, she should stay single. When you say this, you're implying that women are single because those men are a net negative to their life. There's lots of psychological data to suggest that this isn't how humans actually behave. Choosing to be in a relationship or buy a product is FAR more tied up with a lot of psychological factors than is implied with a simple "is this a net negative". There has been a lot of research on the paradox of choice - where peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:17 PM
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Uh, the data on the decline of men's friendships is mirrored by a decline in women's friendships, too. In 1990, 6% of men said they had "zero or one close friend". In 2021, 21% of men said this. In 1990, 7% of women said they had "zero or one close friend". In 2021, 18% of women said this. Here's a graph: https://www.instagram.com/p/CsyVTqEAKpp/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 06:02 PM
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I think that the karma counter is the value off all comments - including the ones that have been deleted. But deleted comments and posts won't show up on your profile. It's possible that he deleted a bunch of stuff that was downvoted.
/r/seduction09/12/25 09:49 PM
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Lol. That's such an overly simplistic way to look at it. If a guy approaches you, it means you passed the first hurdle: physical attractiveness. It does not mean that he will still be interested in you after a conversation or after he gets to know you. Do you really expect men to know you before talking to you? How would that even work? It's not as simple as "he only wants casual sex if he talks to me after seeing what I look like". You sound like someone who wouldn't go to a restaurant because …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:19 AM
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A approach women, but when I was younger - throughout my teens and 20s - it was really difficult to approach strangers. First, if there was someone that I liked, I'd get very nervous. Usually, I wouldn't try to talk to her. In the rare case when I did, I exuded nervousness, which I'm sure is not a turn-on, especially since so many women say they like confidence. So, in probably 99% of cases where I saw an attractive woman that I wanted to talk to, I was too shy, too nervous to talk to her. Even …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 02:52 AM
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It's like watching Jim Carrey in "Me, Myself, and Irene" when he's in denial that those boys are his children. Yeah, that movie came out in 2000.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 06:10 PM
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Women know women way better than men do I'd add that people often have poor judgement when looking at someone they're attracted to. Getting anybody else's opinions would probably be helpful. I remember there was a study a while back where they asked women about various attractive men in photos. I think maybe they were described with various negative traits, too, but I forget. When they asked these women if they'd want to date the guy they were much more likely to say "yes" than if they were aske…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 06:07 PM
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I thought he meant "except for the rich kids" because the rich keep getting richer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 07:41 PM
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Yes, it's generally required for most partners to work in order to cover the costs of living (which seem to be going up, which necessitates a two-income household), but the data is clear that men work more hours than women: https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/images/2006/oct/wk1/art03.gif Women are much more likely than men to work part time, and women are much less likely than men to work more than a 40 hour week. Also, to the extent that women work more hours in the home, it's offset by the fact that…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 12:57 AM
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I think it's more "immigrant men from certain countries are bad (or more likely to be bad)", which I can't entirely disagree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 06:23 PM
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i dont know a single techbro making decent money that wasnt married or playing the field by 30. Either you only know like two techbros or you're lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 12:33 AM
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I generally agree with this. It does help somewhat, but not a crazy amount. It's worth referencing that old OKCupid study that looked at the effects of having different income. https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:800/format:webp/0*N0OGjZ9WDff4gOrf.png You can clearly see that men who make good money get more messages than guys who don't. But we can't quite tell the magnitude of the difference, because they don't give us enough information. And a guy with a million dollars in the bank is never …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 12:27 AM
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While I agree that some women would be attracted to a guy for his money. It reminds me of a popular radio host, Jamie White, who has actually talked about how she wasn't attracted to her first husband ... until she found out that he was an orthopedic surgeon. She immediately got dollar signs in her eyes and ended up marrying him. Yes, they got divorced. But I'm also not convinced she ever married for love. Sounds like she married for money. And everytime I meet him now he is dating some hot youn…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 12:19 AM
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Nice guys are dudes who do nice things only because they want something from somebody. You are acting as some kind of servant just hoping that master will give you some scraps. Winning arguments why changing the definitions of words is a dumb way to win arguments, isn't it? Years ago, Brene Brown made this famous talk where she redefined the words "empathy" and "sympathy" into very different things. It was stupid because the words are basically synonymous, but she acted like they were completely…
/r/seduction10/11/25 04:15 PM
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Here's the full clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3XkgbOFyJU
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 05:38 PM
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My parents never gave me any talks about relationships or sex. I do know that, at some point, they gave my older brother a book that explained sex and puberty. Not sure why they never gave me the talk. I don't know if they simply forgot to give me "the talk", or maybe they were uncomfortable giving "the talk", or maybe they just figured that we, as boys, would just figure it out. For what it's worth, my parents were also extremely religious and were very much advocates of abstinence / "no sex be…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 08:27 PM
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Some women have reasonable standards. Some women seem to have absurdly high standards. To make matters worse: women with reasonable standards get removed from the dating pool (by getting and staying in relationships) much faster than women with absurdly high standards. As a result, the dating market of single women seems to get less and less rational as you get older. When I think of women with crazy standards, I think of examples like this: This woman listed her 50 dating wants/requirements, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 07:51 PM
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Childbirth can come with a bunch of health complications. It's psychologically healthy but physically unhealthy. So it'd be no surprise to anybody who knows literally anything about childbirth to hear that women who don't experience it live longer Yes, married women live longer than single women. But ALSO: Women with children live longer than childless women. Recent research suggests that children are associated with an increased lifespan for women. Compared with childless women, mothers who rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:42 PM
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Since it directly contradicts OP's post, you should add in the summary: Married women are happier than any other women. They were asking specifically about women in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 09:36 PM
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No, most women do not hit all of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:27 PM
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no porn use "Among U.S. adults 18-35, about 87% of men and 28.5% of women view porn at least once a week" (Source) So 7/8 men fail the second-half of your third bullet point, and it's likely higher than 87% because some men lied on the survey. Might be as high as 95%, and maybe most of the other 5% have a low sex drive that would also make you unhappy. You're going to have a hard time dating. Personally, I meet all of your criteria except your third bullet point, so I'm "not good enough".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:25 PM
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This sounds very much like what Logan Ury (a woman) was saying on the "Diary of a CEO" podcast a while back. Maybe women would be more likely to listen if it was a woman saying it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow3ao6YsCgQ Some timestamps: 14:55 "He wore a white t-shirt under his shirt which reminded me of my uncle" 20:00 "He sent me recommendations for Seattle, and that's so desperate" 46:30 "He has boxes in the background of his Tinder photo" 47:50 She imagined a guy doing something "icky"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 05:53 PM
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There was a study a while back that looked at slurs against women on twitter. They found that men and women were equally likely to use slurs against women. It seems to disagree with the claim that men are more likely to attack women online. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/may/26/half-of-misogynistic-tweets-sent-by-women-study-finds I will say, I think men online are more likely than women online to say a woman is unattractive. It makes me think that women are more likely to protect w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 05:53 PM
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No. That 75% statistic includes men who are married, men who have a girlfriend, and men who are single. It does NOT mean that 75% of young single men had sex in the past year. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 06:58 PM
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one of the main issues with nice guys is that they are not actually nice. They are actually manipulative individuals that do nice things only expecting something in return. Actually nice people do nice things just because they like doing them. That's not a good summary of the book. The reality is that whether you're genuinely a nice guy or if you are a manipulative nice guy, women will perceive you as weak and pathetic. It doesn't matter whether your motives are genuinely nice or not.
/r/seduction29/10/25 06:52 PM
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Average men are pulling at a rate of about 75 percent at least once a year. It’s not the average that have zero options. It’s the below average and lower. Your chart doesn't show that. The second chart is the percentage of people who haven't had sex in the past year. This includes single people and people in relationships. Of course people in relationships have had sex in the past year (unless their relationship is absolutely terrible). The men complaining about things here are single, and it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 06:02 PM
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This was an episode of SVU? A few years ago, I listened to a podcast that mirrored this. I don't recall whether she faced punishment. I do know that people went online and tried to warn other people about her. That SVU episode was very much based on a true story. A doula from Lincolnshire has told how she was left "completely convinced" by a woman who contacted her pretending she was having a baby. Kaitlyn's Baby, a new true crime podcast from the BBC and Canadian broadcaster CBC, is exploring t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 06:35 PM
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The romance novels I read have the MMC that is in touch with his feminine side, is vulnerable about his insecurities, and respects women as equals. None of this domineering, "take charge" gender-roled crap. It's 50 50 equality They're not all like that. It's true that romance novels have shifted significantly in the past 50 years towards being more feminist. However, there seems to be a combination of "her respects her feminine power" but also a sort-of patriarchal "I'm (respectfully) in charge …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 04:51 PM
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Apparently, there's a popular book out right now which involves a variety of mythological creatures - including Minotaurs. Morning Glory Milking Farm: Cambric Creek: Sweet & Steamy Monster Romance, Book 1 It has over 21,000 Amazon reviews.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 04:28 PM
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A few years ago, I was walking outside and a woman (potentially homeless) told me to smile. I was just kind of surprised and confused. I did not give her my number. I just thought "oh, that's that thing that women complain about men saying to them." BTW, I've never told/asked a woman to smile in my entire life. I didn't feel harassed, just surprised and confused and didn't know how to react.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 04:17 PM
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Most people are not trying to find the highest value mate. Most people are looking for “do I like you more than being alone”? Thats it. Nah. Women like to say this all the time on PPD, but it isn't true. Women are absolutely comparing men to her other options. It isn't enough to be "do I improve her life by being in it?". You also have to seem like a better option than all the other guys trying to get with her. Here's something that happened to me earlier this year: I was dating this woman for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:24 PM
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Yes. Let's say it out loud together: "Women are extraordinarily privileged".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 04:55 AM
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Yeah. Porn brained gooners are so desensitized that they need supernormal stimulus. Same reason gooners get into more extreme porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 11:02 PM
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I personally think that it’s not very masculine for men to complain about being victims on the internet. I think men complain on the Internet because it's socially risky to complain in real life. It's an outlet to the frustration, while also appearing stoic and put-together in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 11:18 PM
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Does anyone know what the "recent viral NYT piece" is referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 10:23 PM
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Men will talk about that young 20 college girl they don't know and how tight her pu$$y must be, and how they'd love to fuck her and maybe her hot milf mom too. triggered? yeah, men do it and will continue to do it. I don't believe that most men do that. Only a very small percentage. Guys are generally quite vague, and I've definitely never heard a guy talk about how tight a woman's pussy might be/is, and I've been an adult for a long time. Seems like you're feeding women's fears about men. As fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:57 PM
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Plenty of them don't. Well, that explains why they are single. He said that plenty of men in relationships don't have those positive traits, and you replied "that explains why they're single". I think you misunderstood the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 06:26 PM
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which would make him less attractive in the eyes of the women he was arguing with. It depends on what he was trying to accomplish and whether he actually was trying to date either of them. Personally, I don't talk about how terrible dating is to women that I'm attracted to, because it'll ruin my chances. But I'm not attracted to most women, and if I'm talking to a woman that I'm not attracted to, I have no problem talking about how terrible dating is for men or me, specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 06:17 PM
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All things being equal, higher IQ probably leads to greater social dexterity. I doubt that. There's plenty of overthinking that can hurt a smart man's social ability. Sometimes dumb guys can do well because they lack any filter or awareness. Plus there's a huge issue of how much experience he's has in social situations. I remember reading about a man who was a genius at learning languages. He knew something like 15 different languages fluently. His wife told him to put a coat on before going out…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 04:23 PM
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If their power over you only extends to your emotions No it isn't. Power dynamics are based on a lot of things. Sure, one of them involves your ability to negotiate, manage your emotions, and take risks. But power dynamics also involve how many other options the two parties have. If person #1 has a dozen options and person #2 has fewer/no other options, then person #1 has more power in any negotiation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:52 PM
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go for a woman comfortably below you in looks/money/status The fact that the solution is to "date down" in order to equalize power dynamics says a lot about the existing power dynamics of a guy trying to date a woman on his same level.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:09 PM
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You can survive a lot longer without a relationship than without food/water/shelter That's irrelevant to the conversation about power dynamics. Power dynamics still exist in situations that aren't survival based. Also, nobody who's buying a house is going to be on the street if the sale falls through. People who are buying a house are currently either renting or living in a house they own. Home buying isn't about survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:49 PM
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Just… the fact that you want sex from her? They have more power because they have more options. Men want women more than women want men. This gives her more options. Same with the power dynamics in home buying: a seller with a dozen offers has more power than any of the potential buyers. If you, as a buyer, try to offer a lower price or request improvements to the property, they can easily walk away and go with another buyer. If you were the only potential buyer, you'd have a lot more power in m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:46 PM
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I agree with your general point that women in relationships have more power in dating than men in those relationships, simply because there's a lot more guys lined up wanting to date her. However, I don't think relationships are so fragile that women will end them if a man makes reasonable requests. Women aren't going to immediately jump ship. Still, sometimes it feels like you have to con and bluff your way into having her respect your boundaries. But I totally get the fact that women can find …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:24 PM
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The cost of housing is based on what everyone else is willing to pay. You can say that people have as much leverage as they believe, but when you're buying a house, a seller with a dozen offers obviously has a lot more leverage than any of the buyers. The dating market is no different.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:07 PM
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Some people are very obviously more replaceable than others. It's not just the rich vs everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:04 PM
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"I have nothing to offer and it's not fair that's not enough."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:01 PM
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dicks as weapons or magic wands that can physically or spiritually 'damage' a person I've heard the phrase "poison penis", which I think describes it well - the idea that a penis "poisons" a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:23 AM
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Dating apps show men want women more than women want men. Men are more likely to be on dating apps and they're also more likely to message and want to meet. This makes it evident men want women more than women want men. While I think using data from dating apps is questionable, I do agree with the general argument that men want women more than women want men. I think it is obvious why this occurs. Oh, boy, here we go. What's this "obvious" reason? Modern men dont bring anything to the table, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 05:28 PM
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I hate when women say „if he couldnt make more money than me as a white privileged man I don‘t want him“ In addition to that: it assumes that men's main goal is money. There are plenty of careers that aren't well paid but men do them because they enjoy it or get some value out of it. My dad was a teacher. It's not a well paid job, but he liked teaching and the kids. It's awful to assume men choose careers based on what will get them the biggest paycheck. It also disincentives men from going into…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:16 AM
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OP: Men should be working hard to be attractive. "Here's a man who does these things." OP: "He's probably gay." Maybe that's why men don't do these things: because they'll be assumed to be gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 02:49 PM
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Yeah, it happens a lot. I've definitely gone on dates where the woman was 40-50 pounds heavier than her pictures. And they weren't just face pictures. I remember one of the women had full-body photos, and she definitely gained that weight after those pictures were taken. I'm generally nice and have a conversation, but I know it's not going anywhere. Based on experience, I generally assume that whatever photo looks the worst is the best representation of what she actually looks like. And I avoid …
/r/seduction29/05/25 01:28 PM
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I agree. I also saw a post on skeptic yesterday about this exact issue. The highest upvoted comments are crazy takes where they either claim there is no loneliness epidemic (studies show it's real, and affects men more, but affects both genders) or everyone assumes men are lonely because they hate women and they suck. It's crazy how popular and simultaneously incorrect that view is. https://np.reddit.com/r/skeptic/s/xwK9xBzkN9
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:26 PM
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Jesus. She literally said "Why someone would want a child with no Dad or man in the house." Deaths and divorce are unfortunate circumstances which were not planned in advance. Women don't need a man to well parent a child. Statistics prove that children, and especially boys, are at higher risk of all kinds of social problems of there's not a man around. You sound like you don't want to admit that men have any value at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:13 PM
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The number of sperm and number of eggs is completely irrelevant. Both men and women use a very small fraction of their eggs or sperm. The part about gestation and raising children is relevant, although in modern society, men are still expected to at least pay child support if he walks away. And to underscore the fact that "numbers of eggs and sperm are irrelevant, but the time and labor of raising babies is important", there are species (like seahorses) where the male does most of the work of ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 07:34 PM
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I'm not the guy you asked, but I agree that everyone has reduced logic when in an emotionally charged state.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 06:21 PM
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The whole "niceness is just a manipulation" stuff is wrong. Women confuse weakness with niceness. Don't be nice, even if it's authentic niceness, because women will confuse it for weakness. It has nothing to do with "all niceness is actually fake and inauthentic". That's just a cope so people can justify women's actions and continue to believe the "women are wonderful" effect.
/r/seduction21/05/25 01:05 PM
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BS. Women confuse weakness with niceness. Don't be nice, even if it's authentic niceness, because women will confuse it for weakness.
/r/seduction21/05/25 01:04 PM
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I don't think that's actually true. A while ago, I watched an interview with an Italian Gigolo. He was one of the most popular gigolos in the world - tall and built. At one point during the video, he admitted that he hated women. It surprised me. Maybe he had gotten sick and tired of catering to women. In any case, he didn't seem to have any problems being successful with women, even though he didn't like them. It seems like it would be annoying to do the work of seducing women all the time if y…
/r/seduction20/05/25 12:07 PM
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No, Karraker and Latham were two researchers working on together on the study. Your own post quotes Karraker: “We found that women are doubly vulnerable to marital dissolution in the face of illness,” says Karraker. “They are more likely to be widowed, and if they are the ones who become ill, they are more likely to get divorced.” Here's another source that mentions the retraction and both authors Latham and Karraker: https://www.benjaminkeep.com/misinformation-on-the-internet/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:06 AM
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Sorry, but numerous studies have looked at this question and the results are all over the place. Some find men are more likely to leave sick wives than women are to leave sick husbands. Some find no difference. Some find that men are more likely to be abandoned when sick. Some find a decreased rate of divorce for both sexes. The data is all over the place and is MOST DEFINITELY not in agreement that men leave sick wives more often than vice versa. For example: men with MS were estimated to have …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:46 AM
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Yeah, I doubt this. Women in big cities look around and feel like they can get the "best" guys in that city - which is a lot of competition. Women in small towns might be less willing to date someone outside her social group, but she's also likely to have less sky-high expectations about what she "deserves".
/r/seduction14/05/25 01:13 PM
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many guys swipe indiscriminately on the apps. I don't understand what that has to do with anything. Men swipe right on an average of 40% of women's profiles on tinder - not 100%. A long as it's not 100%, it's still possible to create an ELO ranking. Obviously, some women get more attention on apps than other women, which is what ELO score is measuring.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 04:07 PM
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why do 58% of male likes go to the same 10% of female profiles? You're taking that backwards. The top 10% of men receive 58% of all likes from women. For women, it's a little better: the top 10% of women receive 45.7% of likes from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 04:02 PM
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Nice is just sensitive/anxious really. No, it doesn't. Although I'm the brain-dead Internet age, people are bending over backwards to try to make "nice" a negative so that people can justify hating any guy that could be described as "nice".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:18 PM
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Personally, I'm not into dominating anyone or being dominated. If someone wants to do that, it's fine by me. Do what you enjoy. However, I've seen some statistics about this and most women don't want to dominate a man. The numbers were something like "25% of men wanted to be submissive, but only like 5% of women wanted to be dominant". Women generally wanted either egalitarian or submissive roles in the bedroom. This means men who want to be dominated is going to have a hard time finding a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 06:10 PM
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Well, I guess they're doomed to spend the rest of their life with their abuser. If only there was some solution to this problem. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:29 PM
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And this is why guys get frustrated by people online - because someone is always looking to trivialize and strawman men's dating problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:56 PM
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If I liked one of them more than the others, I'd stop texting other women. Personally, if a woman is still texting other men after a month of us dating, it means she's not that interested. If she doesn't drop the other guys within a month, then she's the type of woman who WILL cheat on you.
/r/seduction02/05/25 03:21 PM
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No, it isn't.
/r/seduction02/05/25 03:20 PM
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But the majority of people will eventually pair up as in previous generations I'm not so sure about that. We've reached the point where young people have less than a 50% chance of ever getting married. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 08:49 PM
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Since your link didn't have charts: https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/chalabi-datalab-masturbation-2.png https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/chalabi-datalab-dear-mona-1.png
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:49 PM
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"Natural selection" is a bad explanation though because it's tied up in notions that those who reproduce deserve to reproduce because they're superior in some way(s). And people who don't reproduce don't deserve to reproduce because they're inferior in some way(s). The poor logic of the situation is exposed when it becomes clear that many of the traits that are being selected for are harmful for humanity, and some traits are overvalued (like height) while other ones are undervalued (like being a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:54 PM
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No. I haven't been irritated by a good looking woman dating an average or below average guy. The only time I'm a little annoyed is if I'm attracted to the woman and consider myself more attractive than the guy, because it makes me think I could've dated her if I had met her sooner. I feel like I've personally missed out on something good. (In contrast, if I'm attracted to a woman and she's with a good looking guy, I kinda shrug and think "yeah, that makes sense". It's not just the fact that I li…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 10:19 PM
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She concluded he must be secretly gay. I've had a number of women call me gay to my face or over text because I wasn't into them. It doesn't bother me that much because I know it's just a reaction to wounded pride. By telling herself that a guy is gay, she avoids the uncomfortable reality of a straight guy not being into her. Still, I know a lot of women would her annoyed if a woman turned down a guy and the guy responded with "you must be a lesbian". On a related note, the recent song "Busy Wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 10:08 PM
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The hope that you'll eventually meet one that isn't. The hope that you'll actually catch a unicorn.
/r/seduction21/04/25 08:35 PM
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You're probably referring to the book "Outliers", which said that athletes tended to be the oldest in their class. I'm unsure about any of those other professions you mentioned. It wasn't mentioned in Outliers, although I suppose it's possible that other correlations have been found after the book was published.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:01 AM
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I generally agree with this. It also reminded me of the fact that (American) football was created in the late 1800s because some people at Ivy League schools looked around and felt that the bookish, nerdy boys at their universities weren't masculine enough. Football was a way to "make those boys more masculine". It's an acknowledgement of the fact that being intellectual is seen as the opposite of masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 05:33 PM
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Just be taller, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 08:14 PM
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So designer handbags don't impress men. And you're not doing it to impress men. But somehow dating is harder for women because they have to have designer handbags in order to get a date? This makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 06:52 PM
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I live in the USA, and birth rates are pretty good here. No they aren't. The US fertility rate is around 1.6. Each generation is 25% smaller than the previous one. https://www.axios.com/2024/04/25/us-births-drop-2023
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 05:27 PM
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We need to stop conflating "being picky" with choosing well. There's plenty of evidence that women are often not "choosing well". If someone described their child as a picky eater, what does that mean? Does that mean that the child only wants grass fed beef and the finest foods? Or does it mean that the kids will only eat Chicken McNuggets and Mac and Cheese? For some reason, we assume that women are picking the best, most noble, most divine traits in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 05:22 PM
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We can't both be shallow and have a preference for a specific personality Yes, you can. Picking bad personalities is shallow. A guy who wants "hot party girls" (looks + personality) isn't more sophisticated than a guy who wants a hot girl (looks).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 12:52 AM
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defend his lady during the zombie apocalypse That's true. Human nature has been shaped over millennia by the constant and unending hordes of zombies throughout history.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 12:48 AM
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Anyone else think it's suspicious that OP seems to magically know exactly what all "11" of these women look like?
/r/seduction12/02/25 11:17 PM
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The question of "need" should be framed in terms of "what will result in a mentally and physically healthy and competent person?" rather than "will it kill you of you don't have it?" A "want" is something that you just desire. You "want" pizza, a new toy, or a bicycle. You don't need them because they aren't essential for your mental or physical health.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:04 AM
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Lol. If I put you into solitary confinement for a long time and you go crazy from the lack of social interaction, does that mean that social interaction isn't a need - because you didn't drop dead? That seems like a very narrow definition of "need".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:09 AM
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since people can live without it I always disliked that framing. While I'm unsure if I'd call sex a "need", I disagree with the idea that "it's not a need if you can live without it". Solitary confinement over long periods of time is cruel. Humans need social interaction. Is it not a need simply because people don't drop dead when they are in solitary confinement? What about kids having parents who are loving and not abusive? If a kid doesn't die because he's raised by abusive parents, does that…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:03 AM
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There’s more people living now than all of history combined Nah. It's about 7%. The global population milestone of 8 billion represents nearly 7% of the total number of people who have ever lived on Earth. https://www.prb.org/articles/how-many-people-have-ever-lived-on-earth/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:59 AM
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The cultures that continue producing kids are the ones where women have few/no rights. The ones where women have autonomy are disappearing. I'm sure you can figure out what kind of effects this has for humanity going into the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:57 AM
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No, it's worse than that. <image> And based on the current trend lines, boys who are in their teens right now have roughly a 50% chance to be married by 40 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:53 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:49 AM
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I think people have natural dispositions that aren't related to experiences. Some kids are just naturally nicer than other kids, even within the same family. There's some interesting research that came out about Golden Retrievers where they discovered a repeating pattern in some of the genes that gives them a more friendly disposition. https://ww2.aip.org/inside-science/rare-human-syndrome-may-explain-why-dogs-are-so-friendly Dogs have been bred to have friendlier dispositions than wolves, altho…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:01 AM
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I don't know if that's true. I had the same thing happen with a neighbor, where she asked me for my Instagram. She punched her username into my phone, which was behind a "request" button. She never approved it. It was weird.
/r/seduction24/01/25 06:49 PM
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Counterargument: I've had women punch-in their Instagram on my phone, but their Instagram was locked behind a "request" wall. Then those women would never "approve" me to follow them - either because they forgot to find my request in their notifications (and I'm sure a lot of these women get multiple notifications each day from men trying to follow them), or because they didn't want to talk to me. Once, a woman punched-in her Instagram on my phone, but when I tried to message her later, Instagra…
/r/seduction24/01/25 05:25 PM
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more forgiving gender with that. Otherwise the only people in relationships would be flawless The "only people in relationships would be flawless" argument would only make sense if OP was arguing that women never accept any flaws. But that's not what he was arguing. He was arguing that women are less forgiving of flaws. I think he's right. There was a study a while back asking people with mental illness about their dating lives. It was obvious from the data that men's dating lives were more stro…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 05:28 AM
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See the second screenshot here - it shows the 7% and 40% numbers: https://np.reddit.com/r/Tinder/s/VhXDP8rrVs
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 05:38 AM
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There are countless dudes that have a "preference" for slender women while being absolutely obese and outraged that that would disqualify them for a lot of women. I'd want to see some good evidence that this is somehow more common for men than women before believing it. I think, most of the time, when men complain about (for example) women being overweight and unattractive, the Internet likes to assume they are basement dwellers with beer guys and Cheeto fingers. People are just making assumptio…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 05:31 AM
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The fact that men swipe right on 40% of women on tinder, but women only swipe right on 7% of men should be a wake up call to anybody who thinks "dating is bad for men because of men's crazy high standards".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:22 AM
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Emotions can mean irrational. If someone presented a bunch of facts and the listener has a negative emotional reaction to them, they will dismiss the evidence and make up weak reasons why it's wrong. It isn't about being "person centered" or compassionate. If I told rightwingers that climate change is real and presented evidence, a lot of them would come up with dumb reasons to dismiss it. This has nothing to do with being "person centered".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 05:39 PM
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I don't know that the replication crisis is connected to researchers pushing an agenda. Seems like most of those studies that can't be replicated don't have political ramifications, so it's hard to see how they would be the result of politics. Example: The 1998 study, led by Roy Baumestier from Case Western University, provided evidence for something called ego depletion, which is the idea that our willpower can be worn down over time... but now Martin Hagger from Curtin University in Australia …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 05:34 PM
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Nearly every guy in my city wouldn't even go for a second with a woman if she didn't split the bill Do you live in Scandinavia or something? Because I guarantee that most guys in the US would go on a second date with a woman who didn't split the bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 05:02 PM
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It kinda varies. If there's a woman that someone's interested in, it can affect how they behave and things get a lot worse if two or more guys are into the same woman. It can definitely lead to guys trying to one-up each other or be performative and loud to try to draw her attention or be seen as "better" than the other guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 03:23 AM
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People in the middle ages did believe that demons, devils, witches and spells existed though. The Bible actually has a section where Jesus casts demons out of a person. The idea of things like demon possession are Biblical canon. Link: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%208%3A28-34%2CMark%205%3A1-17&version=NASB And the old testament has rules against witchcraft. It's not that hard to reach the idea of humans aligning themselves with devils if you already believe that devils ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 03:12 AM
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Based on the title of the post "it should be illegal" suggests that you thought it was legal when you posted it. Kinda feels like you're pretending that you knew it was illegal when you posted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 12:21 AM
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The term "male loneliness epidemic" is generally about the number of close friends men have (both men and women have seen a decline in the number of friends in the past thirty years). But, you seem to be using it to refer specifically to men and being single. I see plenty of guy friends approaching women and still ending up single. I also see lots of women being approached at bars. I've asked women before how often they get approached in a night, and women will tell me things like "half a dozen …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 10:15 PM
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That doesn't explain why young women are the most popular porn category. The reality is that most men find young women more physically attractive than older women. That isn't to say that different women age differently (an in-shape 40 year-old woman can look better than an out of shape 20 year old). And it isn't to say that men won't pursue older women who are closer to their age. There's stuff involved in a relationship where a man might relate better to a woman closer to his own age than a you…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:04 PM
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I have no idea how much you were texting or how often you're texting now. For all we know, you were sending a hundred texts each day. Kinda hard to learn from this post without knowing more about what was going on.
/r/seduction17/01/25 06:59 AM
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It’s definitely not the same thing as asking women to wax off their entire pubic hair on extremely delicate and sensitive skin There's plenty of men who are good with it being trimmed, not shaved. And that's because, when going down on a woman, it's better if there's not a ton of hair in your face (1970s style). maybe even an anal bleaching to really give that baby vibe. I hesitate to ask, but how is that a baby vibe?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:26 AM
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To be fair I also think "Free Fallin" by Tom Petty Isn't that song about him treating a good girl badly? It never seemed like he was speaking bad about her, he was speaking badly about himself and his behavior: "And I'm a bad boy, 'cause I don't even miss her. I'm a bad boy for breakin' her heart"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:20 AM
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Men have never been oppressed for centuries on the basis that women know best. You can't ride the coattails of past centuries of oppression to argue that women are victims now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:14 AM
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Yes, women who want to be stay at home parents are OFTEN called gold diggers. No they aren't. Women who want to marry a rich man so they can get lots of expensive stuff, or lounge around the pool all day, and have a nanny take care of the kids are called gold diggers. That's why it's still considered fine and not an insult to call adult women "girls". No it isn't. Past a certain age, "girl" is considered an insult. Heck, how many decades of sitcoms have we had with smart, capable women with thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:09 AM
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I don't really see that. However, I do think there's a thing with young women and teenage girls where they: Want to date someone in their social circle because they don't trust our feel comfortable around most guys. This significantly reduces their dating options, and guys who happen to be in her social circle - like a coworker - have a significant advantage over random dudes who want to date her. Basically, you have to get into the correct social groups. You can proactively be more social to im…
/r/seduction17/01/25 02:38 AM
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On a related note, I started to notice that there's an entire genre of music that I'd call "dressing down men", where women insult and belittle men. It's far more rare for men to write similar songs about women. Songs like: "No Scrubs" by TLC A scrub is a guy that thinks he's fly. And is also known as a busta. Always talkin' about what he wants. And just sits on his broke ass. "NO" by Meghan Trainor My name is no, my sign is no, my number is no, uh. You need to let it go, uh "Vampire" by Olivia …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 09:55 PM
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"guys" is not girl. I call adults of all genders "guys" The equivalent to "guy" is "gal", but it seems old-timey. The equivalent word are: boy/girl, guy/gal, man/woman. The fact that "gal" has fallen out of use forces people to use either girl or woman. Whereas, people don't have to choose between boy or man, they can use "guy". Maybe we should bring back "gal".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 09:38 PM
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Women are called sluts and gold diggers all the time for wanting men who can pay their bills and be a co-parent. I don't think that describes women who are called by those names. Women are expected and assumed childish. It's an insult to call a man childish, its simply cultural sexism that assumes women are. I don't think that's true at all. Kinda sounds like an assumption that women are assumed to act like children.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 09:34 PM
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Yeah. Based on the title, I thought he was going to talk about the fact that women have higher STD rates than men, but nope. Not the argument I thought he was going to make. (In case anyone is wondering: the reason women have higher STD rates is because women can contract an STD from a man more easily than a man can contract an STD from a woman.)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 01:37 AM
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but the masculine impulse to crow about how they would never let such a thing happen to them doesn't help things. I that has to do with the fact that people will forgive a woman who can't defend herself, whereas, a man who can't defend himself loses respect and is seen as pathetic. Men basically have to defend their ability to defend themselves in order to prop up masculine gender roles which women reinforce. Like that clip of the woman who lost interest in her boyfriend because he lost an MMA f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:09 PM
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Does every woman stick around for a week or less and then leave?
/r/seduction08/01/25 03:35 PM
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And Men who are very unsuccessful with women will probably continue to disdain them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 07:31 PM
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Your comment reminds me of some comments I've heard from sex workers. They said that there were some men who were clients who would pay for their time, and then they would spend that time just talking to her because they lacked any emotional intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 07:30 PM
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We both know that "how much damage do they do" is NOT the reason for mentioning the gender of the perpetrator. The gender of the perpetrator is ONLY mentioned because it's being used as part of the gender war, where male-on-female and female-on-male violence are the only relevant numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:36 AM
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Because who did the attacking is not relevant to the victim. It is very relevant to the gender war, though, and that's why women always bring up the gender of the perpetrator. It's part of a larger gender-war story: where male-on-male violence is irrelevant, and the only relevant thing is male-on-female versus female-on-male violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:33 AM
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115 men for every 100 women in the 40-44 age range. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:28 AM
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You didn't say the city. There are American cities with ratios like this - 84 men for every 100 women in the 25-29 age range): <image> And there are American cities with ratios like this: 115 men for every 100 women in the 40-44 age range. (see other comment for screenshot). If you're near a university, it also affects the gender ratios, since almost 60% of college students are women. In other words: there are 3 women for every 2 men in college. That's why I wanted to know your location. I've se…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:27 AM
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I still don't believe you. You think that I fooled Reddit into believing that I'm a between a 7 and 8 with my pics, but somehow women in dating apps think I'm ugly? That's not a credible argument Where are you located?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:58 PM
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I think your post is BS. I'm on Hinge and Bumble. The last six women I matched with didn't even respond when I sent the first message. I posted my pics on one of the "rate me" subs and the results were telling me I was between a 7 and 8. The only women I can get to meetup with me either: gained significant amount of weight since their photos were taken, used old pictures that didn't look like them anymore, or generally seem crazy (like one woman who changed the subject every 30 seconds. I wonder…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:03 PM
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Sometimes I look at some marriages, and think that men are being used in marriage - working full time jobs and endless "honey do" lists. And those men are also not appreciated. Sometimes it seems like women are critical as a tactic to squeeze more work out of men. Essentially to keep them on a treadmill of continuous tasks and complaints, or else he's the "bad guy". Not long ago, there was a thread on Reddit where a bunch of older men were talking about never saying "no" to their wives, because …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:20 AM
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Have you seen how women react when men talk about dating foreign women instead of Western women? Women pull out all kinds of misogynistic attacks about how those women are gold diggers, are manipulative, are just using men for their money, and they'll never actually love those men. I guess many women are okay with misogynistic stereotypes as long as it's targeted towards women they view as an out group.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 06:44 PM
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That seems like a strange counter-argument. You're basically just trying to say "foreign men do bad things, local men do bad things, therefore it's all equal". But you haven't actually shown that it's equally likely. Also, many of those foreign men come from cultures that look down on women and think they're to blame for anything that happens to them. I could play the same game with anything. 85% of lung cancer cases happen in smokers. But sometimes people get lung cancer who never smoked. By yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 06:30 PM
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But if were try to ban those men they would throw a fit about us generalizing all men. Nope. Nobody is complaining about attempts to lock up or punish men who do things like child rape. My guess is that, if a government attempted to ban foreign men arriving in the country by themselves because it assumes they're sexual predators, well, that's a totally different claim, because that is generalizing men. I've traveled alone to lots of countries and have never participated in sex tourism. I would b…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 06:23 PM
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The link you provided ( https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/terrorism-eu-facts-figures/ ) says that the single largest reason for terrorist arrests are related to Islam and jihad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 06:15 PM
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Media with a "Manic Pixie Dream Girl" to support the male protagonist In some cases, that's true - like Scott Pilgrim vs the world. In other cases, it doesn't - Joseph Gordon-Levit in 500 Days of Summer is a good looking dude. In Elizabethtown, Drew (Orlando Bloom) is a good-looking guy. I think what most people seem to miss about MPDG is that the male protagonists are in an emotional malaise. They aren't happy and are caught in a rut in life. The MPDG breaks them out of that stiffling world. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:34 PM
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I think there were movies, particularly in the 1980s, about the nerd or low-social-status guy getting the girl. For example, in Revenge of the Nerds, the nerdy guy (right) gets the girl (middle) by stealing her away from her jock boyfriend (left) - see image: https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5bb6809a05adec2fa65d29fe/master/w_960,c_limit/Crouch-Revenge-of-the-Nerds.jpg I suppose Scott Pilgrim fits that role. Aladdin, too Admittedly, Aladdin was good looking, but he was low status and poor. He w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:26 PM
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The reason is that, unless we only want sex from you, there is no incentive for women to express interest in a man, even if we are interested First, that's not always the case. But, if it's a problem that happens too frequently, you can always refuse to have sex for two or three months. Guys who are just looking for sex are probably going to lose interest before then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:59 AM
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Your comment reminded me of this
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:47 AM
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A guy who can do basic adult things... is praised. That's BS. I and a lot of guys I know meet all of the criteria listed in your comment. It's nowhere close to enough. Here's what I think is really going on: women are frustrated with the dating world. They pretend that their standards are on the floor so that they can gain sympathy and get people to validate her feelings. In reality, women have a gauntlet of dozens and dozens of criteria to decide if a man is good enough to get a single date wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 07:09 PM
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I just find it intriguing that sex workers are hated by - and funded by - the same gender Now replace that with any problem in society and replace it with "humans". "I just find it intriguing that people consume so much stuff and then complain about global warming." "I just find it intriguing that people prefer democracy, but support dictators." Literally all problems are caused by humans and also recognized as problems by other humans. "Why don't humans just fix the problem?"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:06 AM
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Joan of Arc was a mentally ill girl who was having "visions of angels" (aka seizures where she believed angels and saints were speaking to her). Like this Not a good example. most famous martyr of all time I doubt the "most famous" label because I think most people would say Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:27 AM
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While I agree that there are women who get ignored and overlooked, I also think it's less common than it is for men. Here's some data from OkCupid about the number of messages received. Notice how even the women in the bottom percentiles of the attractiveness get more messages than 90% of the men. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 09:29 PM
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Yeah, 20-something guys who don't want to date a woman who's a retired senior citizen or doesn't want to date a married woman is super delusional. Men have such ridiculous standards! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 09:16 PM
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You're not addressing my argument. My argument is that more choices does not result in better outcomes or a more efficient dating market. On the same topic, there's a bunch of research about the Paradox of Choice - which is the observed tendency of people to be less happy and less decisive when confronted with more choices. Apps and big cities both increase choice. And the general trend everywhere is for people to move to large cities. In 2000, psychologists Sheena Iyengar and Mark Lepper from C…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:30 AM
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I don't think some of those count as "icks". They are simply turns turn offs. There's definitely "icks" that fall under "he's not masculine enough". Just yesterday, one of my female friends told me she went in a date with this guy and went back to his house. She got the ick because he talked to his cats in a high pitched voice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 03:01 AM
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That's not how it works. There's a major problem with traits that are easily apparent vs traits that are only known after time. People will be seduced by the superficial. This means that in a market where there are thousands of options, the guys who look good and are tall and good talkers (easily apparent traits) and bad hidden traits (controlling, cheater, abusive, pretends to want relationship but just trying to hookup) will always win out over guys who have weaker apparent traits (average loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:36 PM
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I doubt that story. I think when had some control over who they married. Also, her family played a role, trying to introduce her to men they approve of and vetoing men they don't. That doesn't mean that her parents were 100% in control of who she married.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 06:26 PM
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The dating pool ain’t better for women I don't believe that AT ALL. At least not where I live.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 05:26 PM
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Which is why I said ability and not desire. Which isn't what the question was about. Women can't read minds, so they can't really select for desire, only ability. To a certain degree, this is correct, although not entirely correct. Women can predict to some degree which guys are going to stick around, although it's obviously not perfect, and sometimes women are selecting for men who seem unlikely to stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 01:23 AM
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Looks, money, and status all signal the ability to invest more heavily in children Money and status might signal an ABILITY to invest in kids, but it definitely does not signal a DESIRE to invest in those children. It might even signal a willingness to cheat or abandon the kids because he has lots of good opportunities to spread his genes with another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 06:50 PM
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I mean - you're partially right. Tournament species (where males don't raise babies, and men compete for females and only the top 5-10% of males reproduce) involve highly-selective females. Even the bottom of the barrel females will hold-out for the top-tier males. An example of a tournament species: During this time the males establish booming sites where they display for the females. The one or two most dominant males can obtain 90% of mating opportunities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greate…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 06:42 PM
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Hershel Walker, the Georgia Republican Senate nominee, is staunchly pro-life. He also paid for an abortion for his mistress while cheating on his wife. They have no problem with outlawing abortion, even when they get abortions for their mistresses.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 12:29 AM
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True. Republican politicians are often huge "do as I say, not as I do" hypocrits. Reminds me of Hershel Walker - Georgia Republican Senate nominee - who is staunchly pro-life. Also, he paid for an abortion for his mistress while cheating on his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 12:27 AM
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I disagree. I think there are issues that can cause people to undervalue other people, and everyone would be happier in life if they lost that psychological glitch. Here's an example: let's say that I raised a kid. I tell this kid that they're wonderful, attractive, smart and only deserves the best partners. They internalize this. They goes out into the dating world and believes they deserves the best partner - like the top 1% - because they "deserve" their "counterpart". They end up frustrated …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 02:56 AM
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BS. Art school students have way more sex than engineering students or engineers, but it's obvious who makes more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 08:51 PM
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Exactly. Too many women pretend that it's JUST about sex and nothing to do with relationships. It's a fiction women create in order to play the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 07:40 PM
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The ratio of men and women who have ever signed up for an app is different from the ratio of men and women who are active on the app. In terms of men and women who are active on Tinder, it's more skewed than this graph suggests.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:04 PM
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While I agree that Korean and Indian men don't treat women well, I have a hard time believing that Indian men treat women better than Korean men. I've heard too many stories about women's bad experiences in India. And I know people who have lived in both South Korea and India. In any case, in the US, men bend over backwards for women far more than women to cater to men - which tells me that the 65/34 ratio isn't about male supremacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 07:02 PM
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I don't know why you're using the word "identify" here. I've been on dating apps. I've seen trans women on there. The most sexually forward stuff comes from trans-women, not cis-women. I've seen bios from trans women saying stuff like "let's be sluts together". Plenty of thigh-highs and sexually suggestive photos. cis-women and trans-women behave differently. So, I think you can toss out the "identify as".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 06:54 PM
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Probably just the number of accounts listed as male vs female on their website. That's also a bad metric because what people care about isn't "the ratio of men and women who have ever signed up". They are about "what's the ratio of men and women who are active users". If ten men and ten women sign up and then all the women abandon tinder, them the "ratio" is 50:50, but in terms of users on the app who would actually communicate or meetup is 10 men and 0 women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 05:12 PM
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There's also a dumb trick that hides the facts. There's a big difference between "ratio of men and women who are active users" vs "ratio of men and women who have ever signed up for tinder". That can be a very big difference. I've known a number of women who joined tinder and got bored of it after a week or two. Men are much more likely to remain active users because the dating market for men sucks, and they're grasping at straws.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 05:08 PM
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Seems like a strawman argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 07:39 PM
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Most dating apps give new users a temporary boost. They show your profile to more people when you're new. The goal is to get you hooked and you keep you coming back, hoping to get similar results. But the number of likes you receive will slow down to a trickle. Years ago, I heard dating coaches talk about resetting your tinder as often as possible, but tinder started cracking down on that strategy. If you repeatedly use this strategy, I wouldn't be surprised if your phone number gets permanently…
/r/seduction10/11/24 08:11 AM
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I don't think there's a lot of "I didn't pay my parking ticket and now I'm in prison" prisoners. More importantly, the prison population is, on average, much more criminal than the general population. You have to do some mental gymnastics to claim that the reason convicts have more kids is actually because innocent or people guilty of minor crimes have a lot of kids (like 10+ kids each), while actual criminals have few kids (much fewer than the general population) in order to explain a 65% highe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 07:34 PM
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Not everyone in jail is in jail for a good reason. That's such a bad rebuttal. Do you think all the "incident but in prison" men have lots of kids, but the "guilty and in prison" men are magically having fewer kids? There's absolutely no reason to think that. It's very much special pleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 05:37 PM
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I don't know that it would all be solved. However, some of the things that I think would help: - People tend to take dating apps more seriously when they have to pay. The problem is that a free version of the app will draw-in the most people, and having a lot of people is part of the appeal for people to join the app. People who are using the free version of the app are much more likely to be there just for validation. - Users could get rewarded for doing good things, and punished for doing bad …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 12:55 AM
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They just want a man that has a full-time job; has a basic level of adult maturity and emotional stability; and is nice and pleasant to talk to. That's literally all it would take to get a date with them Either those women are below average, or they're lying about what they demand of men. It's very common for people to play the victim card by pretending that they have very low standards. Just the other day, I saw a post about how men just need to "be nice" to get a relationship but "that's too h…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 04:47 PM
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Interest and a little bit of effort can go a long way. Except in real life, it doesn't go very far at all. This is why men think that they have to be perfect: because almost nothing they do gets results.
/r/seduction30/10/24 08:56 PM
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I've had the same problems with friends. I don't know if it's their carrier, or if it has to do with them being out of phone service for several days at a time (often camping). It leads to a while lot of problems when you think people are ignoring you, but they never received it. Do you assume they received it and not send another text? Are they intentionally giving you the cold shoulder? It sucks. A while back, a guy tried to sue Apple for this exact thing on iMessage - they were telling people…
/r/seduction29/10/24 12:11 AM
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No. Also, tinder insights data says that men swipe right on 40% of women (on average), which is less than 100%. I'm sure there are guys who try to swipe right on everyone, and that drives up the percentages. But if 20% of guys swipe right on everyone, 60% swiped right on 30% of women, and the other 20% swiped right on 10% of women, that would work out to an average 40% swipe-right rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 07:55 PM
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Agreed. I mean the reason women get emotional on their period is due to an increase of testosterone. Women's testosterone peaks during ovulation, not during her period. See the graph here: https://latticetraining.com/app/uploads/2023/04/Menstrual-Cycle-Diagram-Art-File-01.jpg Maybe the increase in testosterone around ovulation is supposed to increase sex drive, which increases the chance that she'll get pregnant. I would also argue to say women are more the natural born leaders more than men. St…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:57 AM
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Men commit most violent/irrational crimes. (Not saying that most men are criminals, obviously, but the majority of criminals are men.) How many female mass shooters/serial killers are there? While I agree that men are more likely to act-out violently, I don't think that's the full picture if we're talking about being emotional. I think a lot of female antisocial behavior goes under the radar because it's relational aggression - like gossip, ostracizing, emotional games, character assassination, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 12:38 AM
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Outcomes reflect Value I don't really agree with that. It's basically like saying good products are going to sell themselves (no marketing needed), and bad products will always lose. I think there's plenty of products that a successful due to hype and marketing, not quality. I think "Liquid Death" water is dumb and is a triumph of marketing over quality. I think lots of products pushed by YouTubers (like "Lunchables" or "Prime") are bad products but succeed based on marketing. The same is true o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/24 06:35 PM
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Yeah, I was definitely thinking the same thing: that girls/women's actions are interpreted in a positive way, but boys/men's actions are interpreted in a negative way. Additionally, it's a problem because some women have a problem where they don't like something, then they say nothing but get mad about it, then they let that anger damage the relationship, then they break up and "it's the other person's fault". It's like getting mad at the driver next to you because they're in the lane where you …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:16 PM
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I have no idea what "95% cold approach rate" means. Maybe you approached 95% of the women you thought were attractive? That doesn't seem correct if you only approached 10-15 women in the past two years. Or you mean that you're sleeping with 95% of the women you approache (and I'd call you a liar). Lots of women are in relationships or flakey or whatever. Women could approach men and offer NSA sex, and she wouldn't even have a 95% success rate.
/r/seduction19/10/24 01:14 AM
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Yes, I'm sure the fact that Elizabeth Holmes was telling investors that they were doing already things that her own scientists were telling her can't be done for at least another ten years didn't play a role.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 06:32 PM
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It may be true that half of men's profiles are disasters. HOWEVER, that doesn't mean that men with good dating profiles are actually getting any kind of decent dating experience on apps. It's obvious that a woman with an average dating profile still has a vastly better experience on dating apps than a guy with a good dating profile. That point should not be obscured by mentioning that some men have bad dating profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 08:33 PM
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A couple of hot guys on this sub who showed their dating profile said their first date hookup rate is 90%+. I’ve been on around 160 online dates, 70% of the time my date is in my bed within 3 hours. I don't believe you. But it's hardly novel for people to like on the internet. Hell, 70% of the women who show up on dates from dating apps look substantially worse than their pictures. If someone if hooking up with 90% or 70% of the women they (supposedly) went on a date with, then would also tell m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 08:30 PM
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I've approached hundreds and hundreds of women IRL. The flake rate is still insanely high. Cold approach isn't some magic panacea that fixes things.
/r/seduction13/10/24 10:45 PM
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I don't know that I've heard men say that they hate sluts. Some guys actually prefer sluts because it's a chance to have sex with no commitment. I know a few guys like that. They prefer "sluts" because it's an easy lay and they don't have to worry about her trying to lock them down into a relationship. Many guys probably avoid getting into relationships with "sluts" though because they don't want to get cheated on, and they don't like the idea of a bunch of other guys having banged their girlfri…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 08:07 PM
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The whole "they're trying to control women's bodies" argument seems very thin. I don't believe it at all, but I can see why a guy would make the claim in order to whiteknight.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:20 PM
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Many promiscuous women are physically attractive. I think you'd be surprised. Being attractive is not at all a requirement for a woman to easily get laid. Go into any poor neighborhood with hookers, and those women are not attractive but they can still get men to pay them money for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 07:17 PM
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At the end of the day, evolution will duplicate whatever traits help an individual pass on their genes the best. Men who are laid back and don't make an effort to get women will go extinct. This leaves the horny dudes who approach women as the ones who will reproduce best. Male spiders will approach and mate with female spiders who will eat them after mating. Is that bad for the male spider as an individual? Yes. Is it good for his genes that are trying to reproduce themselves? Yes. The end resu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:05 PM
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“The Jews are weak and inferior but at the same time enslave every one of us!” I mean - if we take the analogy seriously, then it means that "Jews control the world, we need to stop Jewish control" is a dumb conspiracy theory, and by analogy, the "Men control the world, tear down the patriarchy" is also a dumb conspiracy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 07:50 PM
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I don't even know that it has anything to do with her being a criminal though. I'm shocked at how often men on Reddit act like simps over very average or below average women. Earlier today, someone posted a weird tinder profile of an overweight woman who was a clown. She didn't look good, but there were plenty of simps in the comments section. It's mind boggling. My point being: there's always a ton of men simping over 80% of women. For women who simp over serial killers, the dangerousness and v…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 11:13 PM
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Maybe he should stop showering and dress like a hobo, too, so that he can "really learn how to date" with the deck stacked against him.
/r/seduction06/10/24 03:26 PM
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New Yorkers are good but not nice ... Midwestern folks are nice but not good Sounds like BS. People in the Midwest are way more likely to help someone when they need it - like if your car broke down or they found a wallet. Example: 10 Wallets Returned: Chicago, Illinois; Salt Lake City, Utah . 9 Wallets Returned: Nashua, Iowa; Hill City, South Dakota; Portland, Oregon ... 4 Wallets Returned: New York, New York https://www.thrillist.com/news/nation/most-honest-cities-lost-wallet-test
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 02:36 PM
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Not according to this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9349426/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 07:39 PM
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Yup. Being cerebral or introverted is a big problem. I remember reading an article a while back about men's dating success in college. They found three things that correlated with dating success: being athletic, binge drinking, and thrill-seeking. A lot of people erroneously claim that a "good guy" will have plenty of success, but it seems like "irresponsible" behaviors like binge drinking and thrill-seeking are better predictors of romantic success. Nobody will ever say that though, because peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:39 AM
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The major difference is whether they're enjoyable and know how to socially calibrate for the girls that are compatible with them. I don't know about that. There are plenty of guys who are shitty and not enjoyable to be around. A big factor involved how willing a guy is to date down. And women who don't get a lot of attention are easier to date because they appreciate the rare guy who does want them. For example, years ago I had a coworker who was very overweight. She didn't get much attention fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 01:35 AM
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And don't forget: colleges are roughly 60% women now, so women outnumber men by 3:2 and that makes dating a lot easier for men there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:36 PM
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https://youtu.be/xEZH6YSQvwA https://youtu.be/5pL0JqWYr0E https://youtu.be/-e7B7kL-ksE https://youtu.be/dtVHnZX8E50
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 06:01 AM
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It's femicide legal in Alabama? Or do they get in trouble for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 05:54 AM
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One thing I've noticed is that every guy I see on Reddit who says that dating isn't that hard - they live in places with a disproportionate number of women. When the ratio of single women to single men is messed up like that, women are easier to deal with. And god-forbid that you love in a place with too many men. For example, the last guy I saw on Reddit posting his dating app conversations and seemed to be doing well - he lived outside DC. In DC in the 25-29 age range there's 84 men for every …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:47 PM
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That's true. I've seen some terrible women's profiles. But women have the advantage that men like women more than women like men, and men have lower standards. This is also why men could get 10x as many likes if they posted their exact same photos on Grindr. Some of the women's profiles I've seen: selfies where you can see right up her nose woman sitting on the toilet one woman talked about how she get tired of waiting for "mr right" so she went had got a sperm donor to have two kids but she was…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:18 PM
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I think he was saying that women get too many likes on dating apps. Not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:10 PM
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I don't believe these results. I'm an older guy and look way better than Alex' Dad. The results I get on dating apps are shit. My only guess is: They see him as a potential sugar daddy because he says he's a "businessman" who "loves to travel" (read: has money) and maybe they think he could be a Russian millionaire/billionaire. I think the younger more attractive women are most likely looking to get a sugar-daddy or marry into wealth, because there's no good reason for them to "like" him. It's a…
/r/seduction30/09/24 07:56 PM
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I don't believe it at all.
/r/seduction30/09/24 07:47 PM
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To be clear: just because "patriarchy" might hurt men in various ways and might lead to conditions where those men are not privileged, it does not follow that feminism or supporting feminism would lead to a better situation. For example, just because Iranians in 1979 might've been harmed by the regime of the Shah does not mean that they should support the theocrats taking over the country. "But the Shah's regime hurts men, therefore they should support the revolution" is a false statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:50 AM
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He's also a model. He has also been used in the cover of romance novels. https://ttmmanagement.co.uk/male_model/chris-williamson/ But he's just an "average guy".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 02:13 AM
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I'm sure it's pure luck that he was chosen to be on Love Island. https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/reality-tv/a651438/love-island-2015-everything-you-need-to-know-about-geordie-shores-friend-chris-williamson/ He's also a model, and has been on the cover of romance novels. https://ttmmanagement.co.uk/male_model/chris-williamson/ https://ttmmanagement.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/CW14-700x850.jpg But he's just an "average guy".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:43 AM
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We may not expect the same shit from women but we sure as hell expect other things from them. I don't know about that. I feel like I'm fairly picky about my choice of women, but I look around at my friends, and notice there's plenty of guys willing to accept women who aren't those things and aren't even that attractive. Case in point: one of my female friends who's about 50 pounds overweight got in tinder and went on a bunch of dates. She said she went on about 50 dates over the summer. That's r…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 03:06 PM
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Confident economically stable men will expect the exact same from their woman. You are confusing what YOU will accept with what other men will. It's true that a guy who's a doctor isn't going to be dating a homeless woman. However, It's clear that men are more liberal in what they will accept in a woman then vice versa. Men will marry their secretary. A male doctor will marry a nurse. Doesn't happen as often with the genders flipped.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 02:59 PM
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"pick better" is not the same thing as "wait at the finish line". The only reason I'd think that a woman needs to "pick better" is if she's with a guy who's abusive or a total loser or doesn't wipe his ass or something. The phrase is often used as a rebuttal to women who complain about how all the men she dates are [insert some negative attribute] and then tries to generalize it to saying that all men are like that. Clearly, she's picking a subset of men. On a scale of quality, she's picking men…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 02:44 PM
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Your comment reminded me of something I heard years ago. I think it was on a Vice.com documentary about rape in South Africa. They said that 1/3rd of men in South Africa admitted to having raped a woman. They interviewed some guys and they acted like it wasn't a big deal. I've also heard stories from South Africa about "corrective rape" where men would rape lesbians to "fix" them. They also had a term "jackrolling", which means gang-raping someone. Crazy that they even have a term for it. Pretty…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:07 AM
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all of them kept the secret. Seems kind of obvious just hearing about the story that he was most likely recruiting men from a fetish website. This wasn't a random sampling of ordinary men from around town. Sure enough, somebody else posted a comment saying that's exactly what was going on: Investigation of Pélicot's seized equipment showed that he had been part of a private chatroom called à son insu ("without her or his knowing"), ... in which members discussed performing sexual acts on their p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:54 AM
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It doesn't and I'm based in nyc. I doubt that. With the gender ratios in NYC, there's more single women than single men. That should make women easier to deal with. San Francisco has the reverse gender ratios, which has to make things harder. New York gender ratios by age. At 25-29 years old, there's 7% more women than men. https://i.neilsberg.com/ch/new-york-ny-population-by-gender-and-age.jpeg San Francisco gender ratios by age. At age 45-49, there's a whoping 23% more men than women. https://…
/r/seduction07/09/24 04:33 AM
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Black dude It helps that Western media has gone out of its way to craft an image of black guys being cool and sexually exciting. Look at the number of times the media shows interracial relationships between black men and white women versus any other interracial pairing. Black women with white men are almost non-existent in the media. So are white men with Asian women, even though it's the most common type of interracial marriage. Black women, in general, are wayyyyyy less promoted in the media t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:48 PM
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I don't think that's true at all. I think a lot of these guys are 5s and 6s, and they could be successful with women who are 3s, but struggle dating anyone above that, and they hate that. I kind of agree that it's a shitty position to be in - when women who are around your "equal" are difficult because they're aiming for better guys or because women have absorbed modern society's narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:48 PM
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While I disagree with some of the things OP says, your comment is even more crazy in the opposite direction. At first I thought you were doing a parody of someone who would disagree with OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 06:12 PM
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The only other thing I was going to say about this was to use the example of tournament species. These are species where the top males are the only ones reproducing. So you have the top 5% or 10% of males having sex with all the females. These males generally don't raise their children, which is the typical pattern in the animal world. They "win" the chance to reproduce due to being stronger, have bright colors, sing really well, etc. Those top 10% of males are having sex with all of the females…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 11:01 PM
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That may be true, but it's pretty obvious that evolution has a strong tendency to create men who want to have a lot of sex with a lot of different women. Just like in nature, it makes sense for most male animals to try to have sex with as many female animals as possible. Any male who was choosy about what females he'd have sex with would get his genes outcompeted by males that sleep with anyone. Guys who have no standards, have no intention on committing to women, and who are good liars (pretend…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 10:18 PM
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Probably because she starts to identify with the profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:25 PM
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Oops. Should've put this under the automod. Another female account i follow says that the trick is to lean in on being a loser, and being a disaffected asshole, she was able to get numbers from girls this way: https://x.com/verymoisturized/status/1828970414220956077 She never actually says that she was getting numbers from women. She says that she got a bunch of numbers and dates (gender unspecified). If she's posing as a straight woman who's a loser, she's still going to get plenty of numbers a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:59 PM
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I suppose you can come up with examples where this is true. But there are some pretty obvious counterexamples. Like how serial killers have groupies.
/r/seduction27/08/24 06:11 PM
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Lol. I am moderate left. Look at my post history of you don't believe me. People on the left have this idea that everybody is the same, and suggesting that other people from different cultures are worse than the local population is reflexively treated as racist lies. I think that's a huge mistake. Some people on the left are naive about the world, and I think it causes them to make bad political decisions. On a similar note, I've been in several arguments in the past about women wearing the hija…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 02:13 AM
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I don't understand why Islam gets this much support from the left and then label the slightest criticism as islamophobia. It's because Muslims are seen as underdogs and discriminated against by the "white male Christian patriarchy". Some people on the left haven't figured out that the enemy of my enemy is not my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:32 PM
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I'm currently listening to the audiobook "The Case Against the Sexual Revolution" by Louise Perry. I think you'd like the book. Your post mirrors some of the things she's talking about in it. Ditching the stuffy hang-ups and benighted sexual traditionalism of the past is an unambiguously positive thing. The sexual revolution has liberated us to enjoy a heady mixture of erotic freedom and personal autonomy. Right? Wrong, argues Louise Perry in her provocative new book. Although it would be neithe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:08 AM
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This isn't actually the right explanation. They looked at lesbian women's behavior on tinder, and women swipe right on lesbian women at about the same rate that straight women swipe right on men's profiles. By definition, there's a 1:1 ratio between lesbian women on tinder. Women are just more picky.
/r/seduction14/08/24 03:30 PM
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Ironically, some of the early pickup artists used to have a phrase "cocky funny" as an effective way to pickup women. I'm sure that it works as long as a guy can pull it off effectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:57 PM
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You should flip the genders and go post on an incel forum. You'd get lots of upvotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:47 PM
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I guess I don't see this as much of a contradiction as OP does. Assume that 1/3rd of guys are creepy, pretending to be her friend to try to get more, or can't be trusted. Assume the other 2/3rds of guys are trustworthy. The fact that it's 1/3rd is high enough for men to be suspicious about men who are acting like his girlfriend's or his daughters friend or whatever. This is especially true for guys with girlfriends who are trying to prevent other sneaky competition from other men. Whether a guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 06:31 PM
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Since everybody else is being lazy about actually posting his Instagram: go to his reddit profile, go to his YouTube page, go to the links on YouTube profile, and he's linked his Instagram.
/r/seduction12/08/24 12:57 AM
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Religious reasons to not abort unwanted pregnancy Some women who are not religious still don't want to have an abortion. I've known secular women who are pro-choice, but have said that she would not get an abortion if she got pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 09:31 PM
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Yup. A few years ago, there were women on social media saying that men would fuck a ham sandwich. It was a way of devaluing men and male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:44 PM
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My mam was very clear that men are simple creatures If they splurge, they are expecting sex. Keep in mind that "giving people stuff in order to influence people to reciprocate" is a well-known rule of marketing. It's the same reason why charities put change, dollar bills, or stamps in the mail asking for a donation. The number of people who donate jumps significantly when companies do this. I don't think this is a "man" thing. Some manipulative men might lean into it and argue that he deserves s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 01:44 AM
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I still think that small towns were better for dating because people gained reputations. Guys who did a lot of pump and dumps became known as that guy. I suppose that women who slept around would get a reputation, which I'm sure feminists dislike that, but it could change the dating market so that women slept around less which caused guys to expect less sex right away and forced men towards commitment relationships - which would benefit women. In big cities, people can change their social group …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:37 PM
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A while back, I checked out the FDS podcast, mostly to see how cringy it was. The part of the episode I listened to, the three women talked about how hot it got them when men fight. It was really weird. Made me think of them as animals that wanted to mate with whatever male can win a fight. Even women on PPD will talk about wanting a man capable of protecting them - often in reference to liking tall men. EDIT: On a related note, I remember reading this article years ago - basically a woman talks…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:42 AM
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I'd argue that it's still different for men and women. Yes, hot women get more attention than average or ugly women. Yes, hot men get more attention than average or ugly men. But women get more attention than men. If I were to put it into tiers, it's probably be something like: Lowest tier: ugly men Next tier: average men, ugly women Next tier: attractive men, average women Next tier: super hot men, attractive women Next tier: super hot women Men are always a tier lower than women. I've seen how…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:06 PM
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This post reads like you hate passport bros and are willing to believe any and every negative stereotype about them. Sure, there's some guys that are assholes. Personally, I was friends with a dude years ago who was a nerdy software developer. Maybe a bit below average in looks. No game. He started dating Asian women because they seemed to be the only women who liked him. He eventually moved to Thailand. He's married and has a kid and lives in Thailand now. Seems to be doing alright. And I'm sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:36 AM
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Tinder or Grindr? I feel like the results would be dramatically different, which raises some doubts.
/r/seduction26/07/24 11:25 PM
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He didn't say that men's lives have no value. He said that they start with having no value. Also, there's a difference between saying someone's life has no value and saying that sometime has no value to the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:49 AM
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the amount of really attractive girls ive seen with 'mid' dudes is unreal. I don't see that. Ever. The only exception I've seen was a case where an unattractive guy was a charismatic multimillionaire.
/r/seduction25/07/24 03:17 AM
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I agree that teachers should be paid more. Unfortunately, the options are: work for public education - and states are looking for ways to cut the money they pay out, and teachers are an obvious target to lower state's costs, or work for a private school - where the pay is even worse. On the public side, at least teachers have teachers unions. The problem here is that schools - both public and private - know that there are plenty of people educated as teachers, which lowers teacher's negotiating …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 01:20 AM
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And being in the 20th percentile doesn't mean that women in the 20th percentile will be interested. Those women are still trying for men in the 10th or 5th percentile. A guy at the 20th percentile can do well with women lower down in the ranking, assuming that he's interested in dating down.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:27 PM
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He's a blue piller who likes to act like men are terrible and deserve what they get, and women are wonderful. When he says it's astonishing, he's trying to say that men bring it up because they're trying to push a false narrative, but women are wonderful and none of them like serial killers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:48 PM
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https://www.tiktok.com/@ask.courtney/video/7390843656380370219
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:41 PM
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To improve society, we must focus on helping both genders instead of hating one. I agree, although there's a lot of power in being seen as a victim and a kind of satisfaction in proposing "solutions" that involve the other gender doing the work and one's own gender not having to do anything. I was a little surprised by the examples you gave. I really thought you were going to go more in the direction of stuff like treating people humanely and caring about male and female issues, like lower male …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:13 PM
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Lilith has a "men are assholes" bias. So of course anything said by anyone looks like pro-male bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 02:44 PM
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Your link provides no support for what you're arguing. All it does is say that fertility aming the wealthy has increased relative to where it was in 1980. Here's an actual chart which shows that birthrates are still highest among the bottom 50% of income: https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Fertility-by-Income-Decile-1980-and-2010-Notes-authors-calculations-using-Census-and_fig5_328821950
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:45 PM
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This makes a lot of assumptions. First, that women are doing a good job picking men. Studies have shown that criminal men have more children than the average man, which throws your argument into doubt. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513814000774 Women also pick relatively useless traits like height. Second, if we're going to go down this route, then why not go full eugenics? Low education women have the most kids. This should be stopped. https://www.pewresearch.org/wp…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:58 PM
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No they aren't. And the rare "elites" with lots of kids are very much outnumbered by poor people with lots of kids. https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2013/05/SDT-2013-05-fertility-education-07.png
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:37 PM
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Not a single word about learning to talk to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:09 AM
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So what. Everyone likes people who are thin and in shape. We all want to live in a world where people of the opposite sex are attractive. Who wouldn't want that? But when men try to change the culture so that there are more attractive women, it's somehow a problem. Even worse, men are less demanding than women about traits they want in a partner, but men are attacked for even the scant standards that they do have.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 06:11 PM
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cause women were starving themselves to stay thin Men's obesity rates have been going up too. Men weren't starving themselves and they weren't the target of the body positivity movement. Seems to me that women's obesity rates are going up for the same reason that men's have.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 06:04 PM
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I once heard a guy on a talkshow claim that he'd tell women that he was gay. Probably lowers their defenses. Then he transitions into saying that he's having feelings for her or whatever. The goal was to make her feel extra special and flattered that he would be into her even though she doesn't have the advantage of being his generally preferred gender. He's not just some straight guy who likes her (one of a dozen straight guys that night who wants her), but he's a gay guy who she managed to "co…
/r/seduction15/07/24 12:51 AM
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The older women would get what they wanted (i.e., good sex and attention) but I highly doubt those men would achieve the wealth or the citizenship they desired in the long term. I'm not sure what you mean. Those men that are seducing those women aren't attracted to them. They are putting on an act to get money. Very often the way it works is that they'll form a pseudo-relationship, and then the guy will start coming up with "my sister needs an important surgery, and we can't afford it" in order …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:16 AM
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I'm surprised you are arguing that men go for rich girls. Usually, people claim that men are hypergamous because men go for the prettiest women. In any case, there's no decent evidence that wealth makes a woman much more attractive to men. But there's plenty of evidence that wealth makes a man more attractive to women. Just look at a romance novels. Not every male lead in romance novels is rich, but it's definitely a common trait. 50 Shades of Gray is about a super rich entrepreneur seducing the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:06 AM
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I'm not sure if you're making a joke, or if you don't know what polygamous means.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 12:51 AM
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because a lot of men want to save women And they want to save a woman because men have been denigrated so much that they feel like they have no value to a woman unless they're providing some important service - like saving her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 05:07 AM
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It's always so predictable that women will make the worst possible assumptions about men who go overseas to date. Sure, I'm sure there are some assholes, but the vitriol makes it obvious that they're trying to shame men into doing what they want - either by disparaging those men or telling men that those women will exploit them for money and they don't love them. Personally, I don't blame those guys because dating in the US is such trash. It's like being constantly insulted, but at the same time…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 10:19 PM
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Not sure why your asking this question in this subreddit. Seems more appropriate to post in thepassportbros subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 10:14 PM
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Your question didn't matter because it's not particularly easier to get one versus the other. Although it is generally harder for a man to find someone that he wants to date seriously than to find someone that he wants to hookup with, because: men enjoy sex and can have sex with women that he doesn't necessarily want to spend tons of time with, and because men will often be willing to sleep with less attractive women that he doesn't find attractive enough to want a long term relationship with. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 10:03 PM
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I've seen men that would be considered 4/10 hooking up with 10/10s. Sure you did. I realized the bar is so low when it comes to random hookups as opposed to long term relationships Funny how often women say the reverse: that there are so many guys trying to hookup that it's not surprising that only the hottest guys get hookups. You come in here telling them they're all wrong and any guy can get hookups with 10/10s. Okay. Honestly, if we're just making stuff up out of fantasy land, there's no poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:53 PM
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People today are wayyyy too invested in this cult of freedom. The fact of the matter is that needs being people together and allow people to help each other, which leads to appreciation. People who are rich are sometimes the loneliest people because there's no needs and no opportunity for anyone to help anyone. All your needs are taken care of by money and that means zero dependency on anyone else. Do you love your mother? It probably has something to do with the fact that you were dependent on …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:56 AM
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https://youtu.be/IrrADTN-dvg
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:48 AM
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Women and men do need eachother, to reproduce the population. It also makes it A LOT easier to have both parents around, supporting and taking care of the child(ren) as a joint effort. A team. People don't need to reproduce. Sure, on a population level, some humans need to reproduce if the species is going to continue to exist. But on an individual level, no, nobody needs to have kids. And nobody does anything for the benefit of the species. Everyone is far too self interested for that. And it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:45 AM
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No. It's nice when someone makes an effort, even if I'm not into them. I feel the same way about gay men hitting on me. Thanks, but it's not going to go anywhere, but thanks. This idea that you look at someone who hits on you and isn't that attractive and think "ugh, they think we're on the same level" seems pretty shitty. It also assumes that people only want to date you or try to date you when you're around the same attractiveness, which isn't true. I've chatted up women who were suuuuper attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:40 PM
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It's not 3.75%, last time I read a study on that it was something like 1 out of 5. There are studies that show high percentages like that, but I think those are based on men who suspected that the kids might not be theirs, so they send samples to a lab to test paternity. The lab might say that 20% of samples show that men aren't the father. That's a subset of men with high paternity uncertainty, though. Probably involves a lot of men who found out their wife is/was cheating and then they start t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:27 PM
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I suspect most women aren't going to confess that they lied to the man about the false paternity. Once that lie is in place, it seems like a whole lot of trouble to tell him the truth. I'm sure there are also cases where the woman doesn't actually know herself which guy is the father. I remember hearing a story years ago about a woman who was dating two men in high school, got pregnant, told one guy the kid was his. (Maybe the relationship with the other guy had ended or something, I don't recal…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:15 PM
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it’s easier for them to network as most networking happens at bars, golf courses and within male friend groups like the good old boys club in the police department and political spears as well as in the freemasons; all of which is really difficult for women to break into if they ever do. I think you vastly overestimate the amount of "networking" that guys do. Heck, what percentage of guys are freemasons? Last I checked, they were a bunch of old guys and they were having major problems attracting…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:15 AM
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Imagine if that logic was applied to politics: "I talked to one guy and he said that he wants universal healthcare and government funding of universities, but then another guy said that he wants lower taxes and smaller government. All these contradictions in the things that men want!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 05:12 PM
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If you get less than 1 match a week, you are in the bottom 13% of male users That doesn't make any sense because it also depends on how selective a guy is, or whether he right swipes on everyone. Imagine two guys who are identical in every way. The guy right-swiping on everyone gets, let's say, 4 matches a month but all of them are terrible. The other guy right swipes on 20% of women, but didn't get any matches. Does that mean the first guy is seen as more attractive than the second guy? Of cour…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 03:14 PM
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And those existing women-only communities were mostly founded in the 1970s when there were lots of radical movements. They are dying out because people aren't moving to them and the existing residents are aging and dying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:17 PM
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In the 1970s there were a number of radical movements, and some radical feminists created female only communities. (I say "communities" and not "cities" because they never became that popular.) There's still a few of these female only communities around in obscure places, and they're mostly lesbian because what else are you going to do? They are dying out though. People aren't moving to them and the current residents are dying from old age. There seems to be no interest in these communities in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:13 PM
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This more up to date article suggests it’s closer to 50000, or 20% of young woman. How could 50,000 women be 20% of young women in South Korea? If 50,000 is 20%, then there's 250,000 young women in the entire country. There's 51 million people in South Korea, which would be around 700,000 people who are exactly age 20, or about 7 million people (men and women) in their 20s. Also your link is behind a paywall. I wish Google would remove paywalled links because they're not good for anything except…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:56 PM
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For context: 4B (or "Four Nos") is a radical feminist movement which is purported to have originated in South Korea in 2019. Its proponents renounce dating men, marriage, sex with men and having children and has approximately 3400 members on Naver, the most popular Korean forum. The "Four Nos" are: no sex with men (Korean: 비섹스; Hanja: 非sex; RR: bisekseu), no child-rearing (비출산; 非出産; bichulsan), no dating men (비연애; 非戀愛; biyeonae), and no marriage with men (비혼; 非婚; bihon). https://en.m.wikipedia.o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:47 PM
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So your argument is that we need to allow women to chase their dreams ... while also wanting them to voluntarily choose the burdens of having children. This seems like a puzzle that can't be solved if these are the factors we're working with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:11 AM
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While I agree that social skills are important and often overlooked in these discussions, I would argue that a guy with good social skills but without looks, status or wealth is extremely likely to end up in a relationship with (as you said) "bottom-tier women". But, yeah, a guy without looks, status, wealth, or social skills is probably going to end up without anyone at all. So, social skills are a step-up from not being able to get any women. Yes, red pillers love to point of the exception of …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:49 AM
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Funny, this reminded me of a quote I heard years ago on the Jordan Harbringer show. He said that he was in his 30s before it even occurred to him that women can be losers, too. He always thought "loser" was just a term for men, and there were no women who were losers. The quote stuck with me, because I bet a lot of people (both men and women) think the same thing, probably because of the "women are wonderful" effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 07:27 PM
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That's obviously not how things are playing out. And so much of what you wrote isn't even true. Women aren't upgrading their relationships frequently or "the opportunity to seek and attain more fulfilling relationships is readily available." Reading this, the word that comes to mind is "pollyanna" - noun. a person who is constantly or excessively optimistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:02 PM
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One of my friends who is a lesbian would talk about some of the women she dated. There was one woman she dated for a few months this other woman expected her to pay for everything. For context, my friend is kinda butch. Maybe that played into the expected roles - where the more butch partner is expected to do the roles of men. My friend got fed up with it and eventually broke up with her. Not all lesbian relationships involve a more butch partner, though. And I can't speak about how common this …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:33 PM
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It is a monopoly. The US government has repeatedly shown that it doesn't really care much about monopolies, which enables rich people to get richer. The stuff with Ticketmaster has been going on for decades. There's a lot of small monopolies that aren't on the government's radar, so they continue to exist. While the monopoly power means that innovation is likely stifled, I don't think anyone really knows how to engineer a good dating app. So some of the conspiracies about the Match-group monopol…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:44 AM
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It's to get attention and validation from men, avoid having men think you look "worse" when you don't wear makeup, and it's also a form of intrasexual competition with other women (for men or in the female hierarchy because women notice who looks better and worse than them). It becomes a kind of habit, so it's difficult to go without it when your used to it. Kind of like when you're used to wearing a particular kind of clothes all the time, it feels normal, so you continue to dress that way even…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:49 AM
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I've heard people say that online, but it can be very different in reality. I went to some meetup groups for singles and there were way too many men. One of them had 30 men and 4-5 women. A few weeks later, I wasn't up to much so I went to the same group hoping that the odds would be better. Nope. It was 15 men and one woman. I hung out a little longer to see if anyone else would show up. The one woman who was there didn't stick around very long, so it was literally 15 guys hanging out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:23 PM
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They’re not counting bodybuilder types as obese and overweight unless they have high body fat percentages. The definition of obese and overweight are based on the BMI calculation. The BMI calculation is based on weight vs height. It makes no distinction between fat and muscle. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/323586#bmi-calculators This means that bodybuilders would absolutely get included in the calculation of what percentage of men are obese. There aren't that many men who are bodybui…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:55 PM
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What are you talking about? The total number of men and women includes men and women who are 60+ years old. The ONLY reason there are more women than men in the world is because there's a bunch of retired women who's husbands have already died. If you look at the gender ratios by age group, men outnumber women in every age group below 50. Chart: https://i.neilsberg.com/ch/united-states-population-by-gender-and-age-updated-2024.jpeg
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:47 PM
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Both Ashley Madison and Classmates were successfully sued over those kinds of deceptive practices. Classmates.com has agreed to refund nearly $10 million to users who were told that long-lost school chums were looking at their profiles, only to find, once they’d ponied up a subscription fee, that no one they knew was looking for them at all. The proposed settlement would end a lawsuit filed in November 2008... https://www.wired.com/2010/03/lonely-classmatescom-users-get-95m-in-suit/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:12 PM
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Also if you wanna talk about this subreddit in particular, demonizing women’s preferences is practically the norm He's not talking about this tiny subreddit. He's talking about everywhere else. This place is not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 02:18 PM
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Yeah, guys can improve their attractiveness to women. However, when you say that "realistic standards are the key to success" what you really mean is "low standards are the key to success". I know guys who have a decent amount of success with women simply because they have low standards. While it does improve their success rate, it does undermine the market for other guys. Like if a college graduate is willing to work of minimum wage, that also undermines the job market for less educated people.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:11 AM
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The problem is that people confuse nice with doormat. Most people are nice. Who is "people"? Men who are doormats who think they are nice? Or women who see nice guys and immediately think they're doormats?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:37 PM
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There is some usefulness in that dating advice. But it also sounds like maybe dating advice is meant to keep guys blaming themselves. Because if guys are blaming themselves, then they aren't blaming women. And that's good for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:25 AM
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If you missed out on this flow, it’s probably because you’re complete genetic shit." Sounds like a stupid theory. I know plenty of guys who are great but single. I also know complete fuckups who have lots of kids. They definitely aren't anything close to the pinnacle of genetic fitness. They're actually on the bottom end of genetic fitness. I think there's a lot of truth in the beginning scene of Idiocracy (although I do think those smart people in the scene are too nerdy and aren't representati…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 03:13 AM
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I mean - one obvious issue here is that the Wikipedia page says this: The CDC also stated that 43.8% of lesbian women reported experiencing physical violence, stalking, or rape by their partners. The study notes that, out of those 43.8%, two thirds (67.4%) reported exclusively female perpetrators. The other third reported at least one perpetrator being male, however the study made no distinction between victims who experienced violence from male perpetrators only and those who reported both male…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:59 AM
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Trans men also describe the experience of having women treat them as potential predators. Heck, recently women were talking about how they'd rather meet a bear in the woods than a man. You don't think that plays into the experience of social isolation? Also, this is an experience of trans men who pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:42 AM
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I think you underestimate the number of deal-breakers and requirements that women have. This is also why men complain about dating, and simultaneously, why women act like there's no good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 03:57 AM
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I have to wonder if the saying culture is very fucked up in China because there's a disproportionate number of men, because of the selective abortion of female fetuses. At age 20-24, there are 2.39% of the population that is female and 2.71% that are male. That's 113.4 men for every 100 women, or 7 women for every 8 men. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1244036/population-distribution-by-five-year-age-group-and-gender-in-china/ That's gotta fuck up the dating market there, since women know th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 04:12 AM
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That's not how it would play out. There will be plenty of young guys who could opt for AI girlfriends rather than using their loneliness and desire to learn how to talk to girls. What this ultimately results in is a bunch of men who would've learned to chat-up women, becoming the equivalent of incels. They'll be the "herbivore men" of the world. Lots of people will not be happy. They'll be incapable of getting what they want in life in terms of relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 01:01 AM
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Isn't it women who say that men have to meet a certain threshold of attractiveness? If that's the case, and women say it is, then I don't see how that's any different, since "for love" somehow needs to ignore physical attractiveness all together according to your argument. But maybe you're intentionally or unintentionally making a much larger argument that love doesn't exist at all for men or for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:10 PM
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Someone asked this question a few months ago. I thought about it later and realized that when mass shootings happened, it was men who were killed trying to protect people. And when I say men, I'm not talking about cops. I'm talking about boyfriends, male students, and male teachers. In the Aurora theater shooting: Of the 12 people killed in the Aurora theater shooting, four of them were men who made the ultimate sacrifice to protect their girlfriends. Now, each of these women are struggling to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:50 PM
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married men are healthier than men who were never married or whose marriages ended in divorce or widowhood. Unsure what argument you're making in your comment. If women marry healthier and wealthier men (compared to unhealthy and poor men), then of course we would expect married men to live longer. Additionally, if women happened to marry unhealthy and poor men, women would be likely to divorce them. For example, alcoholic men are likely to end up divorced and they're also likely to die early. P…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:30 AM
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https://www.thecut.com/2013/09/time-to-get-used-to-underbutt.html
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 04:33 AM
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It's possible that she's lying and just trying to screw over that guys life by falsely claiming that he's cheating.
/r/seduction25/04/24 12:28 AM
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women are more adept at analytical and intuitive thinking. Why would someone claim that women are better analytical thinkers? Engineers are known to be analytical thinkers and most engineers are men. "To much analytical thinking" is often used as an explanation for why engineers are so bad with women. If women were better than men at analytical thinking, you'd expect that women would already be dominating STEM degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 08:31 PM
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It's invalid in cases where there are acknowledged and understood differences between men and women. For example, men are generally stronger than women and more capable of a physical fight. If there was some situation where a woman was trying to fight my girlfriend, then I would understand that I, as a man, would be expected to physically step in to stop it. If a guy was trying to fight me, I would understand that my girlfriend would not jump in and physically try to stop the fight. Same with ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 08:27 PM
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If she is beautiful, she was born that way, did virtually nothing to achieve it It's weird when people say this because people can change their physical attractiveness. Go over to r/glowups and there's people who lost weight and started going to the gym, and now they look better. Personally I diet and lift weights. And people will also say that, unlike women, men don't do anything to look better. It's like we're supposed to believe that: women work to improve their appearance, men don't do anyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 12:56 AM
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Even historically polygamous societies end up more monogamous as women gain rights. While I don't agree with OP, I also don't this. Societies with large economic inequalities are more likely to be polygamous. More economic equality between men leads to increased monogamy. If there seems to be a correlation between women's rights and monogamy, it's probably because developed countries tend to have both more economic equality and women's rights. In the context of a society with a strong middle cla…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:52 PM
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The only people who advocate for polygamy are the leaders (men) of extremely male dominated religious cults (including some “organized religions”). That's not true at all. There's weirdos up in Portland who want it too. I've been to Burning Man. Quite a few of them there, and I've known quite a few poly people (both men and women) in real life. I don't know that poly people advocate for polygamous marriage though - as opposed to simply living their polygamous relationships. Overall, I agree that…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:01 PM
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63% of 18-29 men are single. However, only 25% of 30-49 men are single, much closer to women's 21% single rate of the same age bracket. It still raises the question of who those women are dating. The Pew stats on singledom: 18-29 years old: 63% of men and 34% of women are single. 30-49 years old: 25% of men and 17% of women are single. (Not sure what source you used for 21%.) 50-65 years old: 28% of men and 30% of women are single. 65+ years old: 25% of men and 39% of women are single. Source: h…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:31 AM
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Funny how both of those terms are foreign to women Not sure what you're talking about. "Love bombing" is a well-known term in relationships. I think it was originally used to describe a technique used by cults to make people feel loved and valued, which draws them in. There are plenty of results on google relating to relationships: https://www.google.com/search?q=love+bombing The book "The Rules" involved a lot of telling women to feign low interest, so that the man chases. And when people work …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:34 AM
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I'm sure you know what you're talking about, with all of your experience being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:47 AM
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You complained that he "setup most perfect picture of married life", and then you proceeded to create the worst picture of married life. If his extreme example is wrong, then so is your extreme example.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:45 AM
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There are other ways of interpreting OP's post. Personally, I find if a little obnoxious when a woman is juggling multiple other men. You seem to think that he wants her to be juggling other men so that he can "win". It's quite possible that he doesn't want her jugging other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:28 AM
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This post reminds me of a chart I saw a long time ago. They basically looked at people with mental disorders and compared men's and women's dating lives. They found that - across the board - no matter which mental disorder they had, women had more active dating lives than men with the exact same disorder. The numbers suggested that women's dating lives were half as impacted by the disorder as men with the exact same one. I don't remember exactly which disorders it was, but think they compared so…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:45 AM
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People having too high of standards can harm everyone - including the person with high standards. Imagine a scenario where a kid is spoiled and is told that he's the best kid in the whole world. He becomes an adult and he's a narcissist who thinks that people are beneath him. Nobody who wants to date him can reach his high standards, and nobody who reaches his high standards (assuming they even exist) wants to date him. He "chooses" to stay single because nobody can meet his absurdly high standa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:22 AM
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There's been a ton of websites and apps in the past that tried to allow women to talk about specific men in their area. Overall, I don't think it's a terrible idea in the sense that we used to live in rural areas and small towns, and gossip used to be a way that humans learned about other people's reputation. Now that we live in big cities, people can continue to behave badly for a long time and they never gain a bad reputation because they can move around between groups of people who don't talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:08 AM
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It obvious that sweeping statements about a whole group of people aren't going to meet any definition for defamation. It's also going to be seen as hyperbole, and will be dismissed by any rational person. You have to specifically talk bad about a specific person for defamation. Because when you say something about a specific person, it's easier to believe as "a fact". If someone says "so-and-so raped me", that's a specific accusation about a specific man and it sounds credible. If you said "all …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:53 AM
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No. An ick is basically a petty turn-off. It's irrational or overly demanding. Take a guy who's mean or self-centered or whatever. If a woman gets turned off by that, then that seems reasonable. This is a turn-off, not an "ick". If a guy crosses his legs, wears a scarf when it's cold out, crys for any reason (e.g. an injury or at a funeral), or some other minor things that "shouldn't" be a turn off, then it's an "ick". Much of it is demanding specifically masculine behaviors from a man, and he h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 08:20 PM
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This woman has slept with 3000 men. How attractive do you think she is? https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/feb/13/experience-i-slept-with-3000-men-sex-swingers
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:54 AM
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Her speech was about impossible and nonsensical standards. Her speech exaggerated the problems in order to make them seem nonsensical and impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 08:35 PM
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Could also depend on how well they pass. I've seen trans people who can pass and other ones who don't. Here's a video of one FTM complaining about loneliness. You can judge for yourself how well he passes: https://www.tiktok.com/@davidpacjr/video/7243011430176378154 Also, someone else raised the same question about MTF trans and being talked over (like women complain about), which raised the question of "are they being talked over because they're MTF trans or because they're seen as women and ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 08:08 PM
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I disagree. I think women have a negativity bias when it comes to viewing men. I also think men need a lot more attractive traits to be considered "attractive" than a woman does.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:13 PM
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> There are more women than men - not by a lot but a fair margin at least where I live While I'm not sure where you live, in the US in general, there are more men than women in every age group below 45 or 50 years-old. This is because there's about 105 boys born for every 100 girls. There are more women in the US than men because women live longer. But women who are 70+ years old who's husbands who died aren't really considered part of the dating market for most men. Here's a chart that shows th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:59 PM
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Of course it hurts your self esteem and self confidence. I think men who say otherwise are psychopaths. Maybe not caring what other people think of them is part of the reason that criminality is more common among men than women. When I was younger, I took reflections hard. Because a woman was basically saying "you're not good enough for me". Guys here try to twist it around and make it into something else. That might be useful even if it isn't the truth. If you were wrongly imprisoned, it might …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:19 AM
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Does it actually work for women though?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 06:26 PM
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That’s because it’s easier for men to not have to commit in this new age. They push the single parent narrative, so they are excused from even being a full time parent. Are you saying that men are pushing the idea that single mothers are good? I generally see men saying the opposite. It's women who are saying that single moms are just as good as two parents. My theory is that women don't want to say anything bad about single moms or make them feel "lesser", so they go around telling people that …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:13 PM
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A lot of those careers involve interacting with a lot of people. I'm not surprised by bartenders, since I've heard so many stories about restaurant workers/bartenders hooking up. And flight attendants and pilots were also known for cheating - long days away from their spouse, working with other people, and often staying in hotels where coworkers were staying. Lots of opportunities to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:03 PM
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If divorce is higher, then it suggests more undesirable relationships, which is also a bad thing. Either way, it's bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:58 PM
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There's a wide variety of standards that men have. There are some guys with high standards. There are other guys who would be happy to sleep with or date about 90% of women. Sometimes these guys are just going through a phase of trying to hookup with everyone. I think of it as similar to teenage girls who go through a "boy crazy" phase. I've seen women on reddit say things like "attention from men means nothing because men would fuck a ham sandwich". I don't disagree that there are some guys lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:30 AM
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https://www.google.com/search?q=women+have+a+backup+man
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 07:12 AM
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It was literally a topic on conversation on talk shows years ago when that research came out. Here's a list of sources to look at: https://www.google.com/search?q=women+have+a+backup+man These sources are saying that it's about 50% of women. Personally, I've never been in a relationship where I was thinking about a backup woman. When this information was posted on PPD a long time ago, some women defended it, saying that women were just being prudent and intelligent by thinking about backup plans…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 07:12 AM
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For example, I saw a video where a woman was telling a story about how her date started trauma dumping out of nowhere and made the date really awkward. The comments were a bunch of guys going “oh but I thought women wanted men to be more open about their feelings?” I haven't seen the video to know whether this is a good summary, but I also can't help but wonder if any guys saying that (assuming they were saying that) weren't just saying it in a tongue-in-cheek way as an excuse to complain about …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 07:00 AM
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They see a woman dating an "asshole" but to her he is "confident". Honestly, I don't know why some women can't see the difference, because it's generally plain as day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:52 AM
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exactly 🤣 all this tells most women is that men will eventually stop “loving” us and that we probably shouldn’t rely on them in the first place. 70% of divorces are still initiated by women. Sounds like it's women who stopped living men, so those men moved on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:45 AM
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You could make the same argument about food. "If only people were educated about food, they'd make healthier choices". I'm not sure that's true. The fact that we have high calorie Starbucks coffee, and fast food, and soda is going to trump any "nutritional education" because people enjoy consuming those foods. That's why obesity rates are skyrocketing all over the world. We eat unhealthy food because it tastes good. We consume unhealthy media because it feels good and gives people a positive bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 09:26 PM
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That's true. Although if you're normal or athletic, and you don't want to date overweight or obese women, you've just removed 2/3rds of women as options. Things would be a whole lot easier if it wasn't 2/3rds of women who look bad because they weigh too much. I've known a few women who used to be thin and very attractive, but within a few years, they put on a bunch of weight and they look dramatically worse. Like going from an "8" or "9" down to a "3". I'm always a little shocked at how much it …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 09:03 PM
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It is a just fallacy theory because OP does not know anybody here personally. He's just assuming things. There's a LOT of posts on PPD where people come up with some sweeping explanation for why dating is so difficult for men. Not long ago, some guy posted that men at PPD have difficulty dating because they're ugly. They come up with these explanations without having met anybody. So it's just pulled out of thin air. That makes it a just world theory. Further, whether someone is boring or not can…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:08 AM
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The first one we know isn't true for younger people the most common age gap is one to two years. What's crazy is that the pew statistics on this report that women, age 18-29 are 29 point lower rate of singlehood than men. It might make sense that these women were dating older men, but in the 30-49 age range, women ALSO report an 8 point lower rate of singlehood. The numbers make no sense unless women are dating men who are 50+ years old. The only way we can make sense of those numbers are: women…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 12:29 AM
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I'm not sure how that helps your argument. What you're telling us that female privilege lasts even longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 05:07 PM
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when attraction is out of our control? Why do women complain that men looking at porn and Instagram "hotties" warps a man's perception of what a normal woman looks like, but then turn around and claim that the external world and the things she looks at has no effect on women's perception of men's attractiveness? Further, lots of people talk about how Instagram and other media warp people's self-perceptions and increase body dismorphia problems in both men and women. Do you think it affects peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 05:00 PM
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AKA men are cheating or lying Even though the other commenter denied it, that is happening too. I've heard plenty of stories from female friends about "went on some dates with a guy and then some random woman messaged me and asked what my relationship was with her boyfriend" or "I went on a date with a guy from a dating app. Months later, I had a job interview and recognized him as the guy I went on a date with. He also has a photo of his family on his desk". I'd bet there's a lot more men with …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 01:51 AM
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Here's an archived version of the original blog post. You can see that they used the 0 to 5 rating scale (not the 1 to 5 that users could actually assign). They treated 0 ratings as least attractive, even though those were just skipped ratings. Christian Rudder knows how to do data analysis, and I'd bet lots of money that you're wrong. Additionally, that graph you posted there is messed up on other ways. It's clearly a 1-7 scale based on the ticks at the bottom. (Count them up if you don't belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 12:48 AM
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"i asked a good guy how he showed love to his family and friends since he described himself as loving. the man had NO CLUE. could not think of a single instance in which he had done something loving for the people he loved." When people are put on the spot, their mind can go blank. That doesn't mean they don't have good reasons. People are rarely put in the position of providing evidence that they are a good person. Your comment reminds me of that video where a man walks upto a woman with a micr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 02:37 AM
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Women want so hard to believe that their attraction is morally superior to men's that they virtue signal something like this. Men are just honest and direct. This is true, and it reminds me of quote from a psychologist talking about a study on attractiveness a while back. When they asked men and women about the traits they wanted in a partner, men put "physical attractive" higher on their list than women. But when they used actual photographs of men and women and asked them about prioritizing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 07:37 AM
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And seeing as all the women I know were sexually harassed the most when they were 10-12 years old this graph would probably look disgusting if men were truly honest about their desires. I don't think you can interprete much from that other than the fact that there's maybe 5-10% of men that really are interested in girls who are much too young, and they're active about harassing them. You can't generalize that to men. But I do believe that probably 5-10% of men would be interested in girls who ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 07:31 AM
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I often think men's sexual desires is more tied to power not pleasure. Seems like that interpretation came out of thin air.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 07:23 AM
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That's not a good counterargument.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 07:16 AM
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Get it from Europe or Candia It's not just about the price of the drug. The people I've seen on YouTube on steroids say that they are constantly monitored by a doctor. That costs money to be doing monthly visits with a doctor and doing blood tests. Also, there are side effects to steroids that have to be managed. For example testosterone is converted to estrogen, and estrogen causes boobs. This is known as "gynomastia" (gyno = female, mastia = growth). Guys on steroids will take other drugs to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 05:59 AM
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I don't want to mess up my health by taking steroids. I have friends who have told me they are thinking of getting on steroids - specifically to attract women - and I tell them not to because I don't trust the long-term effects of steroids. Also, if you take steroids for too long, your body's testosterone production can permanently shut-down, meaning you have to continue taking steroids for the rest of your life or else you'll have low testosterone. The other problem with steroids is that it can…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 05:51 AM
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Dating is often really difficult for men but my cousin brothers lucked out with their careers and I guess location. New York is heavily skewed in gender ratios - there's too few men and too many women. I'm sure it's great for your brothers, and that's why your brothers do well there. It's the exact opposite in most US cities. Age 20 to 24: 83 men to 100 women Age 25 to 29: 85 men to 100 women Age 30 to 34: 94 men to 100 women https://www.states101.com/gender-ratios/new-york/new-york-county Why d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 04:12 PM
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The high lesbian divorce rate has been seen in multiple studies and in multiple countries. Gay men have the lowest divorce rates. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_of_same-sex_couples See the section titled "Prevalence". The issue of domestic violence among lesbians has become a serious social concern,[4] but the topic has often been ignored, both in academic analyses and in the establishment of social services for battered women.[5] The CDC has stated that 43.8% of lesbian women reported …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 03:59 AM
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Child marriages and forced marriages have zero to do with the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 07:59 PM
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I didn't made up the "he wore the wrong shoes" bit. That was exactly what a female friend of mine said about the last guy she was on a date with. Funny, that reminds me of an interview with a woman who said that one of the reasons a woman told her she didn't want a second date with a guy is because his shoes and belt didn't match. Link to the interview: https://youtu.be/z0wxSmrs5fs?t=83
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 07:23 PM
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it’s way easier to text people on messenger, IG DMs and Snapchat than through just texting with someone’s numbers. I don't think there's any difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:01 PM
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Breaking up with a partner because you absolutely can't stand a certain trait (anymore), even if it may seem petty to others, e.g. is not illogical/irrational. I very much disagree with your definition of "rational" in this thread (not just talking about this one comment, but the whole thread). You basically just make the argument that "if someone has feelings about it, then it's rational". But people have irrational feelings all the time. Sometimes people get pissed off at the dumbest things. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:47 AM
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There is a reason why sperm banks stop accepting sperm after a certain age. We don't actually know if that's true, or just something done out of an abundance of caution. I'm sure they've got plenty of younger men's sperm, so it's easy to just tell older men they can't contribute based on even a hypothetical chance that it could result in a few percent higher rate of birth defects.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:06 AM
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There has been a lot of research on autism and parental age. What they found is that age contributes to autism, but it's probably only a minor factor. Something else is going on that accounts for the large majority of autism causes, and age isn't the major factor here. Some quotes: Women seem to be at increased odds of having a child with autism both when they are much older and much younger than average, according to some studies. Kinda weird that youth seems to lead to higher autism rates. Reg…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:02 AM
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But let me clarify, it's sperm quality that declines and causes health issues in their kids due to age None of the links you provided tell us by how much the quality declines. I see this frequently when women want to talk about declining sperm quality with age: we have no basis to compare birth defect rates with older mothers vs birth defect rates with older men. As far as I can tell, sperm declines in quality slower than eggs decline in quality. For comparison, here's a chart of Down Syndrome p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:47 AM
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> And this dude told you that his gf was dating him because she LIKED that he punched walls? Lol. So she has to verbalize it to him, and he has to tell me, and that's the only way we would know it to be true? In any case, I don't think it's as simple as "I like men who punch walls". And the guy I was responding to was saying that nice guys misinterpret "any assertiveness or playful teasing as "being an asshole"". It's the old "guys who get girls aren't assholes, it's just that other men misunder…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:14 AM
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I don't think that's true at all. I know some assholes who do well with women. There are other assholes who don't get women, and guys who aren't assholes who do get women. Funny, the other day I was talking to a guy at the bar that I know. He's constantly fighting with his girlfriend. He came into the bar last weekend and his hand is all busted up. I ask what happened. He says he got into another argument with his girlfriend and punched a wall. I'm sure that it was broken. Guy is in his 30s. I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:48 PM
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Yup. I was hoping someone would point out that there's more than one type of asshole. You have to be the "right type of asshole" to do well with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:40 PM
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I agree, you can't treat women you like in just a friendly and nice way or else you'll get completely friendzoned. Women expect men to lead - which means making the moves that make romance happen, and women don't like taking those risks. I hate the whole "treat them like people" thing because it implies that you're treating them like trash or like sex vending machines. Hence the whole "nice coins" and "sex vending machines" meme that was popular years ago to insult men. I also think a major prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:59 PM
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There was a study published in 2015 that was retracted because of errors in counting up the number of divorces. It was republished in 2016, but there was very little difference in divorce rates for sick people compared to healthy people. They looked at four major illnesses, and only one of the four showed any statistical significance in divorce rates - and that was a 2% increase in divorce rates when a woman was sick with heart disease. Kind of a weird finding, since the other three major illnes…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 01:20 AM
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Patriarchy doesn’t mean that women don’t have an enforcing role in it. Male gender roles are obviously part of the matriarchy. By claiming we live in a patriarchy, you are hiding the secret power than women hold over men. Even when men are in official positions of power, who has the power over dating and who has the power at home? When men reinforce those male gender roles, they are unknowingly doing the bidding of the matriarchy. And, as part of the matriarchy's desire for more power, it's impo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:11 PM
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Even the "ick" concept mostly occurs to people you most likely weren't compatible with anyways, That sounds an awful lot like a made-up rationalization. Kinda similar to "just world theory". too appealing to be tossed aside over one silly behavior. Sounds like a reversal of what you were just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:00 PM
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Virgin is also used as a slur.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:05 AM
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I don't know. While I question how common this is and how much people think it's okay, but I also don't think you can speak for all women. A number of years ago, I was on a second date with this woman when a guy walked up next to her and tried to get her number. I expect women to brush off men in that situation. But she gave it to him. It was very irritating. I drove her home and she was texting him while sitting in the passenger seat of my car. This also means that she gave him her real number.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 01:54 AM
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Even if everything posted on a sub is a true story, it can still be toxic. The problem comes in when there's a bias in the stories, and that can lead to toxicity and false perceptions and fatalism. Here's an example: let's say that someone hates a certain group of people. Maybe it's white people, black people, Asian people, middle aged white women, or whatever. Now let's create a sub where people post stories or videos of those people being assholes. There are enough assholes in every group that…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 07:05 PM
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Yeah, the same idiots who believe in "Replacement Theory". The west should just liberalize immigration further instead of whining about birth rates. Hundreds of millions of young Indians are ready to bust their ass to have a shot at life. Nevermind. Forget what I just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:32 PM
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People always claim it's the availability of birth control. But I looked at historical fertility rates in the UK, and I doubt that. When was birth control first widely available? The pill in the 1960? Condoms before that? Fertility rates dropped decades before the availability of the pill. Here's a graph of fertility rates in the UK. As you can see, fertility rates were below 2 in 1938. https://www.statista.com/chart/amp/25975/fertility-rate-timeline-eng-wal/ I've seen other historical graphs go…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:26 PM
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They send signals clear as day to guys they’re attracted to. I’ve seen this happen to one of my more attractive guy friends, he got approached while we were waiting in line for food and she gave him her number AND paid for his food. Having a story about a woman approaching a man isn't evidence that all women or even most women do this. Aren't women constantly saying that women aren't a hive mind and don't like the same things, or behave the same way, but when topics like this come up, people wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:51 PM
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He's clearly here to promote his substack - where he can charge a fee to subscribers. Funny that he posted the same link twice. That's how bad he wants you to read his substack.
/r/seduction06/02/24 02:29 PM
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Polyamory is a much bigger laughable facade.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:24 AM
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I'm confused about what you're even trying to say. Are you claiming that poly people don't experience jealousy? I can absolutely tell you that isn't true. I know people who are poly or who have tried polyamory. It's mostly a trainwreck. So much jealousy and back-biting and talking shit about the "other girl" that their boyfriend is sleeping with. I've got plenty of stories from hearing about their experiences. Lots of bad ones. Hell, I've read the Ethical Slut book. The second largest chapter in…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:23 AM
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Global population is on the decline in developed countries. And some third world countries that are still increasing in population - they'll all be in population decline before the end of this century. Things are most definitely falling apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:01 PM
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I googled it, because I was curious. The first results I found on Google says hikikomori were "70-80% male", "76% male", "54% male", and "90% male". Quite a range of estimates.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:05 PM
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He said "non blue pill". There's a lot of ways to interpret "non blue pilled" besides "red pilled". I'd count blackpilled, MGTOW, and incels in the category of "non blue pilled".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 08:54 PM
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I don't think OP is arguing that it's a trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:59 PM
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I've heard questions raised about whether the Toronto attack was actually motivated by being an incel. It is true that he claimed to police to be motivated by being an incel, but here's a quote from his wikipedia page: In the decision, Ontario Superior Court Justice Anne Molloy believed that the perpetrator seemed to be motivated by the desire for notoriety, and referred to him as "Mr. Doe" so as to avoid giving him further recognition. She wrote, "It is almost impossible to tell when Mr. Doe is…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 03:50 AM
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When no fault divorce became legal there was an 8-16% drop in women committing suicide I looked up the women's historical suicide rates, and I don't see any decent correlation with no-fault divorce beginning in the 1970s. California became the first state with no-fault divorce in 1969. Here's a chart: https://www.statista.com/statistics/187478/death-rate-from-suicide-in-the-us-by-gender-since-1950/ Women's suicide rates in the 1950s and 1960s was at 5.6. In the 1970s, it jumps to 7.4. And then i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:29 AM
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Our grandmothers couldn’t open bank accounts until the 1960s There's a lot of misinformation about this on the internet. I keep seeing articles and some allusions on big financial sites that say something along the lines of, “It was illegal for women to have bank accounts in their own name before the 1960s.” And this just isn’t accurate. ... Alllll the way back in 1862, California became the first state to pass a law that explicitly allowed women to open a bank account in their own names — regar…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:10 AM
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Men also are attracted to women that have Dark Triad personality traits. No we aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 05:18 PM
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I often disagree with women who think they're in danger of being killed by a man they go on a date with. That seems very unlikely. (Which is also why I hate that quote about "men are afraid women are going to laugh at them, women are afraid that men are going to kill them" since it tries to frame women's problems as real and lethal, and men's problems are silly and insignificant.) BUT, I do agree that women are at higher risk of dangerous levels of physical violence and sexual violence. I've als…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:44 AM
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it's really fat women not hating themselves and wanting to see their body type when they are being advertised products (these men hate to see it!) Is that why plus-sized models were in the Swimsuit edition of Sports Illustrated? The fat positivity movement is not JUST about women not hating themselves. If it was, men would be more sympathetic towards it. There's been a push for it, including in stuff marketed towards males. There's been some videogames that were using unattractive women as lead …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 03:11 AM
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Could be related to power. Confidence might be correlated with power. Women's attraction is often connected to power, dominance, and status. If you think about the past, people were often in status hierarchies - King, nobles, merchants, peasants, slaves. Confidence is highest at the top of the hierarchy. Slaves would probably not even make eye contact with their superiors. You even see this in the media: where Disney movies involved the woman getting the prince, same with quite a few romance nov…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:06 AM
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People think confidence = having good reasons to be confident, but the connection is very questionable. Women would sooner be a with a confident loser than an unconfident winner. This is because the level of analysis women do on men isn't very deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 02:52 AM
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Confidence is equally attractive in men and woman. No, it isn't. But, BY GOD, don't for a second think that confident women don't enjoy more fulfilled dating lives and greater opportunities professionally. Having more dating opportunities doesn't mean that men find her more attractive. If a shy woman is liked by half the men that meet her, and a confident woman is liked by half the men that meet her, they are equally well liked by men. But if the confident woman approaches a bunch of guys every …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 02:48 AM
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Confidence implies that you're high value. Confidence suggests that you're high value, but correlation is very often wrong. I've known guys who were absurdly confident and had a lack of actual justification for it. Also, I can tell if a woman is confident but it definitely doesn't mean that I think she's high value or competent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 02:40 AM
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Why would porn sites try to advertise their site using videos like these unless this was common sexual fantasy for many men? But I don't know if the fantasy is that they want to ‘save’ the woman in the video or something else… I don't know if you can draw that conclusion. I heard once from an Internet marketer guy that advertisements featuring older unattractive or average-looking women looking to hookup do better than advertisements featuring younger attractive women looking to hookup. He belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:16 PM
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I do think about the effects of Disney when people I know have daughters that refuse to go anywhere unless they're wearing their Disney princess dress - indicating that they spend a lot of time as children imagining themselves as a princess. But you could argue that it goes far beyond Disney. Twilight is about a boring high school girl being wanted a supernaturally powerful vampire and a supernaturally powerful werewolf. 50 Shades of Grey is about a bumbling journalist girl who becomes the obses…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 07:05 AM
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The evidence suggests that men's standards aren't crazy high, though. Even if you're right about the lame dad getting a perfect homemaker wife on TV, it doesn't appear to be having the same consequences on male psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 06:49 AM
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Marriage was an alliance between families or a contract between clans, most of the time. I doubt that was generally true. Yes, I'm sure that was true for people who were wealthy and politically connected - and those were the people who wrote things down that historians world read later - but I doubt it was true for people outside the top 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 05:41 PM
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Only 45% of married women with kids work a full time job. (It drops to 38% if she has children under 3 years old.) Most married women with children either work a part time job (25%) or don't work at all (30%). Sources: https://ifstudies.org/ifs-admin/resources/updatedbarchart1-w640.png https://ifstudies.org/ifs-admin/resources/updatedbarchart2-w640.png You live in California so your mortgage/ property taxes/ etc for a $800k 2 bedroom condo in a nice area is $5500 a month Does the typical woman l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:17 PM
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You don't provide any evidence that autism is related to parental age. You're just noticing two things going up historically: autism rates and the age of parents, and drawing a conclusion. There are a lot of correlations that you could draw with such lose criteria for evidence. The actual research on rates of autism and parental age says there is some correlation, but the estimates vary wildly, but none of them come close to explaining the 300% increase from "1 in 150" to "1 in 36". The results …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 06:38 AM
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See my comment here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/4yKrLKydlC
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:36 AM
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Facebook did the same thing. They admitted that saying things like "I hate men" or "I hate white people" is in a totally different category and not considered hate speech, but replacing it with "women" or "black people" is considered hate speech. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/12/03/facebook-hate-speech/ This change happened after years of people complaining about getting temporary bans for slurs against men and white people, arguing that they should be allowed to say those thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:34 AM
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Those percentages tell us nothing about how fit or unfit primitive men or modern men are for reproducing. We don't know why those men didn't reproduce and it could've been for all kinds of reasons - like warlords castrating or killing them. Doesn't tell us anything about prehistoric men's fitness. You should look up the appeal to nature fallacy. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-nature Also, women's genes are just as bad as men's genes, so if men were genetically unfit to reproduce then…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:13 AM
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You're making a lot of assumptions about the average quality of people who are reproducing. The thing is - there's lots of degenerates who are reproducing. It's also been shown that education level is negatively correlated with the number of children someone has, especially for women. High school dropouts have the most kids, which means that, over time, more and more of the human population will be descended from high school dropouts. And fewer and fewer people will be descended from intelligent…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 09:59 PM
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There are plenty of dead beats who have shitty genes and are reproducing just fine. It's such a lie that the best of our species are the ones reproducing. (I'm not saying that everyone reproducing is bad, or that the best people aren't sometimes reproducing. I'm just saying that there's a ton of degenerates with bad genes reproducing too. There's no "forward" direction to it all.)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 09:51 PM
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This post reminds me of a quote I heard years ago on one of Jordan Harbringers podcasts. He said, "It took me a long time to realize that women can be losers, too." It's so true how society sees lots of men as "losers" but rarely women. It also reminds me of a guy friend of mine. He lived with his girlfriend, and she went for 18 months without a job. He continued to support her during this time. But she would barely make an effort and when she did make an effort, she would reverse her effort bef…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 08:24 PM
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There doesn't seem to be any shortage of men willing to date or sleep with unattractive women, but nearly every guy looks at porn. This suggests that your argument is wrong - for men anyway. The stats from tinderinsights is that men swipe right on 40% of women. And a lot of these men are actually messaging these women. Women swipe right on 7% of men. https://tinderinsights.com/ Based on that, it's hard for me to believe that this unrealistic expectations problem isn't fairly one sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 02:32 AM
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At some point the minimum requirements must be met for a relationship to be happy and fulfilling Assuming you pick the right standards. One quote I remember: "In dating, we care too much about things that don't matter, and too little about things that do matter."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 02:06 AM
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six foot, degree, no kids, athletic but not over the top, was swarmed. I'm doubtful when people say this kind of stuff. I'm almost the exact same as him. I have to put up with a whole lot of disinterest and disrespect from women. Maybe the women "swarming" him aren't very attractive or are single moms. It's also possible that you are overestimating how much attention he gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 12:26 AM
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I was watching a YouTube video about dating recently. I scrolled down to the comments. There were easily hundreds and hundreds of comments by guys talking about giving up on dating and women. There were a few guys in relationships who commented that they wouldn't even bother dating again if they're current relationship fell apart because the dating market is so awful. Personally, I haven't given up, but I totally understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 12:22 AM
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The sooner you realize that relationships are transactional and nobody is with you just for you the better. I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue here. The point being made is that women are demanding too much. Jumping back to my earlier analogy about a high-school graduate who thinks he deserves a $200k/year job, that's transactional and it's asking too much. You haven't created a counter-argument by saying "it's transactional". The argument is that women are demanding too much. Those t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 07:05 AM
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fresh and fit There's a "popular" youtube channel called "fresh and fit" where the guys talk-down to a bunch of superficially hot but dumb women who think they deserve the best men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 07:01 AM
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Agreed. It's frustrating how often this type of post comes up on PPD, and people just don't get it. It's like seeing someone who can't see the forest for the trees. To use another analogy: If some dumb high-school graduate decided that he deserves a $200k job because "I don't want to be poor". That kid is an idiot. Someone comes along and says, "You need to lower your standards". And the reply is "Oh, you think that kid is going to do good work if he's only paid $20 an hour? It's not going to wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 06:57 AM
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While I'm doubtful that women get very much money this way, I can provide some stories: - A number of years back, I had a girlfriend. At some point, I started realizing that she'd lie to me about stuff. I started figuring out that she was seeing guys behind my back. I ended up breaking up with her because she was juggling multiple guys behind my back. She was in pharmacy school at the time, and with one particular guy, I asked her why she was cheating. She said that she would complain about not …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 02:14 AM
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Not saying I disbelieve this, but do you have a source? I don't know about the 80% and 20% figures he mentions (I don't think the divorce gap is as big as 4x), but there has been research on divorce rates, and lesbians clearly have higher divorce rates - about double the divorce rates of heterosexual couples. And gay men have divorce rates lower than heterosexual couples. Here's a whole Wikipedia article about it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_of_same-sex_couples#Divorce_rates The resu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 08:30 PM
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Yes, let's take the worst behavior of the worst 0.1% of men and compare it against the worst behavior of the worst 0.1% of women, and then extrapolate that to judge the entire gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:09 PM
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I don't know why this question is being asked. Sure, the title is a reasonable question. The paragraph after it revolves around crazy incel ideas. It's not worth asking this question on PPD because the vast majority of men anywhere don't believe in some weird government-issued girlfriends or wives. And if you think this is a popular opinion here, you are being hyperbolic. Go ask that question in an incel subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:07 AM
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The only reason guys call women prudes is because those men are manipulative and are trying to manipulate her into sex and insult her for not having sex with them. It's the equivalent of a used car salesman saying "this car is a great purchase unless you're a cheap-ass".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 10:35 PM
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You could repeat this with dozens and dozens of qualities. And you'd pretty quickly be out of dating options.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:10 PM
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Lol. So men complaining about one toxic extreme are wrong if they don't accept a different toxic extreme?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:47 PM
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I can tell from her vibe that any money she brings to the relationship isn't worth the headache.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:41 PM
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every woman i know has a grandma, mom or aunt telling them It's impossible for any man to verify this, and could easily be a made-up talking point to support a particular viewpoint. Personally, I very much doubt this to be true, although I also have a very religious conservative family. For example, one of my female cousins wouldn't let her daughters date anyone until they were looking to date to find someone to marry. Among my extended family, I'm sure the most common advice given to women was …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:22 AM
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I think it's because when women see they've made a mistake they try to pass advice on so someone else can avoid the mistake I don't think it's necessarily the case that they made the mistake (implying that this is an extremely common mistake). If a woman sees any other woman get caught in a bad situation, or hears about a bad situation in a true crime podcast or some true crime TV drama, she might give the advice to not be dependent on a man. In the same way that someone's relative might tell th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:18 AM
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A whole pitbull argument isn't going to get anybody anywhere. Personally, I don't believe pits just do what their owner says. I've heard too many stories of seemingly nice pits suddenly attacking a person. I guarantee that pitbulls trained to be "obedient and docile" don't always end up being peaceful. Also, many people own pitbulls for the intimidation/"I'm a badass so don't mess with me" factor. That's also not an appealing trait in a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 07:26 AM
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it takes a single snowflake to start an avalanche. That's only true if the snow is perfectly primed for an avalanche by trillions of other snowflakes (which didn't trigger the avalanche). It's the same thing with social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:58 AM
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bc men get angry when you explain that women are less threatening and more aggreeable/pleasant to be around than men. It's not just about agreeableness. Imagine two scenarios: a puppy and a large dog. People are way friendlier to the puppy than the large dog. Why? Because the large dog *might* be dangerous. Just being bigger and larger makes you appear as more of a potential threat, so people are more likely to avoid you. They'll smile and pet the puppy. They'll avoid the large dog because being…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:43 AM
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such as the possibility of finding a longterm partner. Makes me think about gay men complaining about how other gay men just wanting to hookup and not have a relationship. So it obviously does happen. Some guys never really wanted to exist in a hookup culture, and some guys enjoy it for a while and then get bored and look for something longer term.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:37 PM
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In medieval times, the word "Rake" was used to describe men who slept around. The word seems to have fallen out of use, though. In a historical context, a rake (short for rakehell, analogous to "hellraiser") was a man who was habituated to immoral conduct, particularly womanizing. Often, a rake was also prodigal, wasting his (usually inherited) fortune on gambling, wine, women, and song, and incurring lavish debts in the process. Cad is a closely related term. Comparable terms are "libertine" an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:47 AM
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Should romance scams be acceptable and legal, since nobody is "coerced"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 08:38 PM
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Yes, and people who exploit other people should also accept that they are exploiting people. It's not like one and only one person must be blamed when shitty things happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 08:36 PM
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I disagree with your first paragraph. But I think there's a certain level of truth in the second one. As long as women select men (partially) based his ability and willingness to provide, then men will use that as a way to get relationships. In some species (like some spiders), the male provides food or "gifts" to the female in an attempt to mate, so it's not even just humans. And it's sometimes successful. So, the behavior is rewarded and reinforced. Both sides can try to "cheat" the other: men…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 08:29 PM
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He's basically saying that women have less wealth because they didn't spend their money wisely. Therefore, why should other people have to pay them more in SS because they made bad choices? Overall, it's unclear why women have less wealth and it can be caused by multiple things (lower income, supporting children, bad financial decisions, etc), so both of you are jumping to conclusions. I agree with his very general point that "simply having less wealth shouldn't automatically mean you're entitle…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:54 PM
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I've talked to maybe 30 different women at bars or coffeeshops, to see if she seemed interested. In many cases, they didn't seem interested or had a partner (a boyfriend, husband, and sometimes a girlfriend). I've asked out maybe around 10 women? Maybe half of them went on the date. I got zero second dates. Not sure why not. Edit: I thought you were asking specifically about non-dating app dates - i.e. women that we originally met "organically" in the real world. If we're including dating apps, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 06:29 AM
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It’s not hard to tell which of these two will have more guys trying to take her out. You mean that the party girl, who meets 50x as many guys as the bookworm, has more men asking her out? That's not surprising. I realize you're trying to argue "guys want the party girl, not the introvert" but the fact that the party girl meets way more guys is a confounding factor in that example. Heck, I could argue that covid loves to infect extroverted party girls more than introverted homebodies based on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 06:17 AM
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His point is valid. There are plenty of societal problems that are seen as worthy of addressing, and sometimes problems arise when people have freedom to choose. There are plenty of situations like this, and feminists are quick to point out similar situations when they affect women, but only in certain inequalities get pointed out or addressed. Other cases are quickly ignored, as your response illustrates. "People making free choices about who they do business with, who they hire, and who they r…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:31 PM
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Your argument seems like an awful lot of cherry picking. No man over 6 feet is going to think to himself.. That sidesteps the question of what qualities are actually useful or attractive. I don't consider height to be a valuable human trait, but women value it highly. If tomorrow, a large nose became an attractive male trait, then all the big nosed sons might thank their mother for a big nosed father, but that's kind of stupid because it's only something that's "thanked" because it's something t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:43 PM
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How is it rigged in men's favor at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:10 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:08 PM
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most men don’t even have enough respect for their wives to follow through with a few small tasks they said they’d do Debate is fun when you get to make up or exaggerate your points. Reminds me of a Republican politician who claims that everyone slightly left of him is a Communist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:01 PM
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Your husband does not put you on a payroll. He doesn’t put money into your pension, savings, no company shares, health insurance, dental insurance, 401k, sick leave, paid maternity leave or paid holiday. And if you’re a SAHM mother, god knows you don’t get sick leave or time off. My brother works a full time job and his wife is a SAHM. She most definitely gets all these benefits from him: he pays for the house, bought her car, covers all her health insurance through his job, her retirement is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:56 PM
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I have a friend, average looking, poor af, only starting college now as a mature student, skinny, 5’9 & on the surface not much going for him. He is however one of the most interesting & genuinely wonderful people you will ever come across. A truer more loyal friend (or partner) you could never come across & he’d move the earth to help people but just in a very genuine caring way he’s not full of himself or trying to be a saint, & he’s great fun as well. Just a really all around great human bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:37 PM
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Make me think of this old graph from Okcupid, where they had people rate profiles on looks and personality. For some reason, the two ratings were surprisingly well correlated. https://images.app.goo.gl/TyxwtnEPeZZgh9Fr6
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:22 PM
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There have been studies on incels. The results showed that political leaning had no obvious connection to inceldom. [There were] no differences in political orientation between incels and non-incels, [with] ~39% right leaning, ~45% left leaning and ~17% centrist.” https://www.psypost.org/2022/09/incels-exhibit-reduced-psychological-well-being-and-a-greater-tendency-for-interpersonal-victimhood-study-finds-63979
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 04:21 AM
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South Korea’s fertility rate dropped to a record low of 0.7 in the second quarter of 2023, according to the latest government report https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/south-korea-s-fertility-rate-marks-record-low-in-q2-of-2023
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 10:33 PM
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Are you sure you're "purple pill" and not "cyanide pill"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 10:16 PM
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highly religious right wing families. And even those are falling apart. Even Mormons have seen declining birthrates. Lots of religious people are deconverting at rates that makes it a non-solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 10:15 PM
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You mean the stupidest of all solutions to population decline?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 10:11 PM
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"Women are gold diggers" ... Men say this, yet wouldn't want a broke man anywhere near their daughters, nieces and sisters. So I guess it's fair to say you need some type of money when dealing with women. Especially since it costs a lot of money for the prettiest of them to keep up their appearance (which isn't real btw). You can always go for the "ugly fat chick at the bar" who may be cheaper/cheapest. Point is, you have options. Let's not go changing the definition of "gold diggers" to whateve…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 11:44 PM
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I remember reading some statistics a while back saying that researchers discovered that if a couple goes for some period of time (like seven years or something) and don't have kids, the relationship is at an increased chance of breakup. An evolutionary psychology explanation for it might be that - if you aren't having kids, that maybe one of you are infertile. There's a 50/50 chance that it's your partner, so it's advantageous for your genetic legacy to breakup and find someone else. In any case…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 08:47 PM
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Better Bachelor is a pretty terrible YouTube channel, so I'm not surprised that he attracts that kind of audience. In the past, I would sometimes have BB come up on my YouTube recommendations. I watched a few videos, but he always seemed to have some exaggerated takes on issues. I got tired of hearing his bad takes so I just started ignoring all his videos when they came up on my recommendations. BTW, you can tell YouTube to stop recommending particular channels. I've started using that feature.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 07:19 PM
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Just because you're approaching women and asking them out doesn't mean a guy will have success. There's plenty of women that either: won't go on a single date with a guy or won't go on a second date with them. Neither of those are a success. It's dumb to try to chalk it up to "the problem is men aren't approaching women" when the reality is that most women will not go out with those guys who do approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 06:40 AM
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My theory on Karens is this: People can sometimes get what they want when they're pushy. There are times when you can be nice and polite, and people will want to help you. There are other times when being pushy gets better results. Maybe these Karens were always pushy, even when they were young. Maybe they were nice when they were younger, but discovered the power of being pushy. Either way, they enjoy the results they get when they are pushy. When people have kids, they are in the position of d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:08 AM
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"Not seen as a threat for being a woman" my inbox full of guys threatening to assault me for such reasons as not wanting kids or wondering if I'm asexual begs to differ. I'm unsure how this means that you're not a threat. Your examples are cases where you were threatened, not examples where you were seen as a physical threat to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 03:56 AM
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Men are surprisingly honest about things. They also aren't scheming in an attempt to ruin other guys dating lives. The fact of the matter is that most of the guys who are going to give another guy dating advice is either: a relative, a friend, or some rando on the internet. Friends and relatives have incentives to help-out the person they're giving advice to (unless your friends or relatives are unusually sociopathic). Some rando on the internet? There's a 99.9% chance that anyone reading some r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 03:00 AM
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They don’t even have pictures half the time That's probably because they're on the downlow, not because of laziness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 10:15 PM
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When he created a promotional video for Grand Rapids, Mich., Bliss reportedly minimized the city's sizable minority population. Only 18% of Grand Rapids is black. I don't know if that counts as "sizable". And they tend to live in sketchier neighborhoods. One of my old roommates got his car shot by some black guys in Grand Rapids while driving home from school in the middle of the afternoon. Yeah, I wonder why someone making a promotional video for a city wouldn't show sketchier neighborhoods.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 08:46 PM
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The problem with the GSS data is that almost 60% of people didn't answer the question about sexual frequency. That's a huge problem because it can easily throw off the numbers. I don't know why that author didn't immediately see the problem with using those numbers if he actually looked at the GSS data. Even worse, the number of people not answering the question has skyrocketed. In 2010, around 10% of people didn't answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 06:41 AM
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The "Modern Love" podcast came out with an episode today about a woman who rejected any man who was nice to her. She was viscerally repelled by men who were kind to her, and thought that men were only valuable if they were difficult. I wonder how many men have been harmed by this kind of experience. He cared about me, so I broke up with him. For years, Jessica had dumped any guy who was kind to her. Could she break the cycle? "His earnest love had become repulsive, imagining the way he wanted to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 02:37 AM
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I mean, it doesn't seem to stop gay men from having a lot of sex partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 07:34 AM
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For the purpose of drinking, the ocean is worthless. Effectively, it might as well be made of shit. Comparing men to ocean water is basically saying men are worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 07:33 AM
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Nice job OP. OP is definitely not the first person to use the ocean and desert metaphor for women's and men's dating problems. I've heard it at least a dozen times before. It's also kind of shitty because it implies that men are shitty and women are generally good. There's plenty of good guys out there who are getting ignored by women. At some point, it seems like the things women complain about in men and the things that women select men for are different, which is obviously going to cause prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 07:24 AM
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women are 51% of the world's population. Boys are born at a higher rate than girls, but males die younger than females. So, in the 20-something or 30-sometime age range, there are more men than women. The only reason there's more women than men in the world is because there's a lot of old women who are 70+ years old, and a bunch of their male counterparts have died already. So, yeah, if you're including geriatric women in your calculation, there are more vaginas than penises. I don't think that …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 07:16 AM
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There's no good evidence that humans are the "slutty ape". Even bonobos, which supposedly have sex with everyone, aren't having babies with everyone. Once they did DNA tests, they discovered that some of the males were far more successful in mating than other males. It sounds like you read Christopher Ryan. His book was full of misinformation. People have debunked his claims. One person wrote an entire book called "Sex at Dusk" to debunk his claims. He's just some polyamourous guy who wrote a bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:32 AM
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It's not logic, it's indoctrination Not indoctrination. There's a lot of reasons, but some of them are that women don't want to do the work, don't like taking risks (approaching is a risk), and they want people to want them so much that those people make lots of effort to get them. A woman who makes an effort to approach a man doesn't get that validation of someone chasing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 02:10 AM
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Where oddly enough women complain not enough men go to. Many of them will be all or only women. I don't believe that. I joined a group for active single people in my area. It's bar meetups and things. The first time I went, it was about 30 men and maybe 8 women. A ratio of 3-4 men for every woman. The second time I went, it was 15 men and 1 woman. Maybe it's different in other locations, and I'm sure it changes depending on the same group. I've seen statistics on single people, and there's a dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:26 PM
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You are correct: there are two groups of women. Women that acknowledge that the situation is grim for men, and women who don't realize what is actually going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:08 PM
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This is very clearly false. I've seen plenty of men fail over and over. I've known guys who approached hundreds of women at bars and other places. Not long ago, I saw a dude online who said he approached 3000 women before getting a single date. You're just making up fiction here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:49 AM
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Some of this has a grain of truth to it, but this line: "often the very people they looked down on their whole lives" makes you sound like you're creating a revenge fantasy against these guys, and you're eager to make them into the villains. It's the "just world hypothesis" by casting them as arrogant and evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:46 AM
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I don't think that's true at all. I would hope that guys would only be approaching women that they were attracted to, not just any random woman. I'd also expect guys to approach women in their general age range. Not underage girls. And not Grandmas. A lot of women are with other people or with an apparent boyfriend or husband. There's also a lot of awkward approaches that are likely to go nowhere - of a woman is sitting with her friends at a table in a restaurant? I mean, technically you could a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 07:35 AM
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I don't think women (living as men) would learn much about the dating world because they would just wait for the month to end and not make an effort. They wouldn't try to get on dating apps, get matches, or have conversations. They wouldn't try to talk to women at bars. They would just quietly be incels for a month because they wouldn't make an effort to play the active role in dating. So they also wouldn't know what it's like to try to date women. I also think men (living as women) might learn …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 08:15 AM
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I would wonder about your definition of "top tier". I think the top 5% of women are more privileged than the top 5% of men. But if you're talking about men in the top 0.01% or top 0.001%, then sure. But a man's odds of ever getting into that super exclusive group is basically non-existent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 08:02 AM
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Absolutely not. Also, of your bringing up age-related infertility, just because a woman has a kid doesn't mean she's able to have more kids. Her fertility declines with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:30 PM
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Seems like a very hand-waving explanation for why Nordic countries have low birthrates - even lower than the US - even though a lot of the problems are solved there. They are also dealing with inflation and a general level of pessimism about the future. (WW3 speculations, climate change, increased crime) Most developed countries dropped a few points because of Covid. And then there’s personal choice. So ... nothing to do with men not being good partners. It seems like all of those reasons exist …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 09:24 PM
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The the difficulty level is too high, switch to easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 10:18 PM
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You should at least respond to this, because I was thinking the same thing: Sweden have the best maternal care IN THE WORLD, it give so much advantages to women to the point they're net negative in taxes and they still have lower fertility rates than US.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:58 PM
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Self-reporting indicates that full time working mothers and fathers put similar amounts of time into things like childcare and domestic duties. No. Self reporting says that women do more domestic labor and men do more paid work. When I last looked it up, married men with children worked seven hours a week (in paid labor) more than married women with children. The end result was that the total labor - i.e. paid labor and domestic labor combined - ended up about the same for men and women. When pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:43 PM
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I don't think so. She says: after all, men can't help themselves so women don't know what's gonna happen? So either men can't help themselves in sexual situations or they can. if they can then it doesn't matter what women wear. If they can't then there's nothing wrong with women treating every man as a potential assaulter
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:12 AM
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I think her argument is "if men can't help themselves from looking at a woman, then men can't stop themselves from assaulting a woman. Either men have self control or they don't."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 01:11 AM
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If men can help themselves then it doesn't matter what women wear. Your argument is that "men can't help themselves from looking, therefore, men can't stop themselves from assaulting a woman"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 12:58 AM
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First, there's a lot of people with little to no retirement savings. There used to be a time when people had pensions, which is effectively a "forced savings plan". The 401k system is an opt-in system and when people are living paycheck to paycheck, saving for retirement ends up getting the lowest priority, because it's "far off in the future" and doesn't address the pressing problems of today - like rent, food, and gas. A while back, there was a Frontline episode about the coming retirement cri…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 07:56 AM
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Seems kind of silly. It's not a nation or something on the map, and it sounds like a made-up place for vampire books. I wouldn't hold it against someone, especially if they were young. Hell, when I was studying abroad on France for college, I met a British girl who didn't know where Africa was. That's 100x worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:54 AM
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Just like I’d say ick if a mid woman demanded she get with an exceptionally fit and handsome billionaire. You're comparing MrBeast - the most popular YouTuber on the planet with over 200 million subscribers - who wants a woman who's intellectually curious and has hobbies to a mid woman wanting an exceptionally fit and handsome billionaire? These two things are not in the same ballpark.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 08:42 PM
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MrBeast has over 200 million subscribers on YouTube.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 08:36 PM
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With other criminal women. This reminds me of that case where a prison inmate knocked up four different female prison guards. BALTIMORE Four female prison guards in Baltimore fell pregnant to the same inmate, according to authorities who have busted a major smuggling gang inside the jail system. Two of the women tattooed the inmate's name on their bodies and he showered three of them with expensive gifts including cars and jewelry ... Four corrections officers-Jennifer Owens, Katera Stevenson, C…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 08:10 PM
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This notion that attractive men are all assholes is laughably false. I don't think that's the argument being made at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 07:43 PM
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"successful" Lol. I've known guys with criminal histories. Successful is not an accurate description. People have this weird idea that a criminal on the cover of a romance novel - a hot rebel who secretly have a heart of gold - is an apt description of a criminal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 07:40 PM
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Why do men hate sex workers so much? While they are biggest beneficiaries of the services these women provide? What's your definition of "hate"? Plenty of guys won't date them, but does that mean they "hate" them? Women who are sex workers take themselves out of the pool of "datable women". There's already a problem with too many single young men and not enough single young women - as evidenced by the singlehood rates of young men and young women. Even worse if attractive women are removing them…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 06:38 AM
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Interesting. I googled "I am a college educated and career driven woman. My ex fiancé had no career ambition and was happy making $12/hr." and the exact text came up on four different subreddits in the past five days: AITAH, relationship_advice, marriage, and AmITheAsshole. All of the posts have been deleted (and google hasn't updated it's cache yet). Looks like she hasn't commented on any of the subreddits. Other people found it on other subreddits: First: https://www.reddit.com/r/SeriousConver…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 01:20 AM
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That's simply not true. Just because some rando dude says that means nothing. I know so many guys in real life who seem to have very low standards in women, and are interested in unattractive and overweight women. And, yes, these guys still manage to be single, despite their low standards. On dating apps, men swipe right on 40% of women, and women swipe right on around 7% of men. To put it another way: a man is 6x as likely to swipe-right on a woman than a woman is to swipe-right on a man. The w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 06:17 AM
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Like they prefer the woman to approach them, court them, impress them. They literally want to be the Princess/ Prize. Let's say the quiet part out loud: You describe the typical female approach to dating, but, you're avoiding saying "it's okay and condoned for women to do this, it's not okay for men to do this". This is what's known as "privilege". There's a weird tap-dance going on to call men out for this while also pretending like women aren't doing this. Women have a lot of privileges in dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:06 AM
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I think people with a lot of experience with the opposite gender often gets burned out and angry at the other gender. I think a big part of it is trauma. I think people remember their pain more than they remember their happiness. People remember others betraying them more than they remember their loyalty. I don't know if it's true, but they say that for a relationship to flourish, that 6 compliments should be given for every insult or criticism. I think that's because we remember pain and insult…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 03:42 AM
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I don't think that's true. I think there's types of toxic personalities which fail at dating, and other types of toxic personalities that are valuable in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 08:15 PM
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Yeah, people frequently say (in various forms) that if you're failing at dating, you deserve it because of some obvious reason or moral failing. Some stuff I've seen on other subreddits: Dating for men is easy as long as you take a shower and aren't an asshole. And: Women only care about personality, not looks or money or height or any of that other stuff. If you're failing at dating, it means you're an asshole with a shitty personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 08:13 PM
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All of poor people's problems are caused by poor people. If poor people would agree not to work for less than $20/hour, then all poor people would be earning at least $20/hour. Having minimum wage laws would be totally unnecessary. If poor people would agree not to pay more than $1000/month for rent, then there would be plenty of landlords who would have to drop the cost of rent to $1000/month or less - otherwise the property would be vacant. This is why we should have no sympathy for poor peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 03:43 AM
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The low T is here to stay as these chemicals are in nearly all water supplies. Can't rearrange all of society. Well, I guess we all sit on our hands and do nothing. Can't interrupt corporate profits. 🙄 https://economicsociologydotorg.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/shareholder-value-maximization.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:03 PM
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It's worth pointing out that chemicals affect women's sex drive as well. Women who had higher BPA levels reported less satisfaction with their sex lives. Source: 1:27:00 https://youtu.be/C9aqGqjC1kE Barrett 2014 Environmental exposure to di-2-ethylhexyl phthalate is associated with low interest in sexual activity in premenopausal women https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/20459714-barrett-2014-environmental-exposure-to-di-2-ethylhexyl-phthalate-is-associated-with-low-interest-in-sexual-activi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:01 PM
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No, they've done studies comparing men with similar BMIs and it's still in decline. Also, are you suggesting that smoking increases testosterone?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 04:49 PM
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1) It only says something about women who use Bumble (the majority do not). There's no good reason to presume that women on bumble act significantly different than women who aren't on bumble. Maybe you could make that argument if bumble was selling itself as "the app with all the tall men, so all the ladies who want tall men need to join". 2) From those women, it only says something about women who pay for advanced filters (not many pay, and those who do are presumably looking to filter for some…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 03:34 PM
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What's funny about this is all the talk about how men are more shallow than women, and how women will be attracted to overweight men but men aren't attracted to overweight women, and women are burdened with diet culture. That's the story we're told anyway. I had seen some statistics around the number of messages received by men and women vs their BMI. I looked for that data, and found this 2006 paper: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=895442 (You can download and read the PDF f…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:58 AM
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No, men work more hours than women. Married men with children work seven hours more per week than married women with children https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:720/format:webp/1*So-glFAidYiJPN4R9TOK1Q.jpeg
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:45 AM
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No it doesn't. It's obvious that you enjoy putting people down.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:42 AM
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I can’t, however, tell you with 100% certainty that a child’s life is always better with a father figure. That's a pretty poor standard of evidence. If you want 100% certainly of anything in life, you might as well do nothing. Put money in the stock market for retirement? Nah. You can't have 100% certainly that it'll be a good investment. Drive to work? Nah. You don't have 100% certainly that you won't die in a car accident. The "100% certainly" standard is a way to justify not doing whatever yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 01:39 AM
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Male empowerment also includes power fantasies of having lots of money and bitches Only among rappers, and that's probably a reaction to them growing up poor and getting no women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 03:33 PM
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You don't think parents ask their sons when they're going to get grandkids? Mine did.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 03:30 PM
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I don't believe that's true. I will admit that women have a biological clock, so maybe in their 30s they are doing a little more of a scramble to meet a life-partner than they were in their 20s. But, I still see so many women with overly high standards. And, yes, I have "all my shit together". Out of curiosity, I punched my information into the "female delusion calculator" that was recently mentioned on a PPD post, and I'm in the 0.2% based on being single, white, taller than average, in shape, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 05:32 AM
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No it isn't. I've known guys with criminal records. They are none of those things. That commenter was just doing a creative writing exercise. The guys I've known with criminal records were impulsive, disorganized, and not very smart. They certainly never went on to do anything useful with their lives. And they most definitely didn't become CEOs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:38 AM
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This is such an ad-hoc justification. The guys I've known with criminal records were impulsive, short sighted, disorganized and not very smart. They definitely were not brave, ambitious, confident, or assertive. They also haven't done anything useful with their life. Mostly living around the poverty line, very little education, short relationships, kids with different mothers. If we're going to do some creative writing exercise to assign traits to people, then we might as well say that nerds wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:35 AM
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What's funny is the number of women on PPD and elsewhere who think that women were nothing but chattel to men and forced to get married to any man walking by who wanted her. I continually point out historical information from centuries ago where women were shown to have plenty of options and choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 06:56 PM
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i’ve seen both men and women dressed down to sweaty, gross, hole filled clothes and Still get approached and catcalled at. So women catcalled sweaty gross men based on their personality? Ok. Did these women hang out the window of their friends car and recognize his beautiful personality at 45 MPH? That sounds completely real and not made up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 02:50 AM
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only on Reddit do I hear about broke ugly ass dudes pulling beautiful women “ all the time “ lmao . And their source is always "trust me bro".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 02:46 AM
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Yes, and since it's a gender swap filter, we can rule out so many of the excuses people are using in the thread, like "just because women wear makeup" or "men don't try". To state it more directly: humans see females as more attractive. "Eye of the beholder" and all that. Maybe humans see things that way due to evolution, I don't know. But it would make sense. In tournament species - where the top males get most of the mating - it is evolutionary advantageous for all males to find every woman at…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 08:56 PM
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This is so untrue. Too many comments on this post are just trying to find excuses. I'm not saying that makeup and clothing don't contribute, but it's totally false when people act like this explains the gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 08:40 PM
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I would say it’s not the literal act of someone liking you, rather the hypothetical notion someone will. Agreed. In her scenario, a person who's alone on an island is somehow "unlikeable" because nobody likes them (because nobody even knows they exist). Similarly, if you're around a bunch of weirdos who don't like you for whatever reason - maybe they're a death cult, or maybe you're poor and they look down on poor people, or maybe they're racist and you are the "wrong" race - then you are someho…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 06:48 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:05 PM
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Previous studies of the correlates of depression among women have not generally been based on adequate midlife samples or precision in the specification of marital status categories. The present analysis is designed to address these deficiencies and is based on data from the Health and Retirement Survey-Wave 1 (i.e., respondents 51 to 61 years old). Results indicate that married women are less likely to report symptoms of depression than their unmarried counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:24 AM
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Yeah. Reading this post, I couldn't help but imagine a rich person writing a post like this. "The poor and middle-class need to accept that having disposable income is a privilege, not a right. People need to get comfortable with expensive rents and using prayer instead of the healthcare system. Your employer isn't required to pay you more. The poor and middle-class need to accept their place in the world and stop complaining about the rising costs of everything because rich people don't want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:09 AM
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I don't think that's an accurate summary of this subreddit. And there's plenty of women with double standards here, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:46 PM
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Well. If I were a woman, I'd seriously considered "will he dump me, if I put on weight after pregnancy or just age". So if a 20 year old man won't date 60 year old women, then it means that he'll leave any woman he'd married to when she reaches 60? That seems like a massive stretch of logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:42 PM
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If she wants to give them a chance and feels okay about it, that's fine. If she doesn't want to give them a chance, that's fine, too. I don't think there's a "should" in either case. If she feels mad about it, I'm not going to judge her for ignoring those guys. Some people will try to argue that these men were shallow or whatever, and are therefore bad. Or that they'll leave her if she gains weight when she gets pregnant. There is a difference between not dating an obese woman and continuing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:39 PM
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I've said before that romantic love is the new religion. But I'm a little late saying it. The song "Your own personal Jesus" was written back in the 80s. Reach out, touch faith Your own personal Jesus Someone to hear your prayers Someone who cares Your own personal Jesus Someone to hear your prayers Someone who's there
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:59 PM
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I don’t see a bunch of single women saying they’re gonna off themselves or overreacting to the degree that single men are lol My opinion on this is that men have lived in the career world for a long time. Women are just starting to build careers and wealth. Here's the thing: men have been in the career game long enough to know that it's not fulfilling. Nobody is on their death bed wishing they spent more time at the office. Women are too inexperienced to realize that yet. It's like the differenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:13 AM
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Literally? As in: he has incel sons? In what way is he the "father of incels"? Stuff like this sounds like he is condemning incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:46 PM
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Agree. If you’re trying to be wholesome and good just to get in someone’s pants, she will know the difference. Insincerity is a huge turn off. Stop trying to twist it around. Men who are fake nice and men who are genuinely nice both get screwed in the dating market. Pretending that genuinely nice guys are actually "fake nice" is just a cope to justify good guys getting the short end of the stick in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 04:17 PM
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Disclaimer: I have not read the post because there's no easy way to open it on the app. So maybe I'm missing context. A bad man does something "good" then feels entitled to a thank you I don't think that's true. A "thank you" is a pretty thin "reward" for doing something good. It's just common courtesy to thank someone for something for you, and not thanking them can be a sign of being ungrateful or entitled. If a woman was doing things for her man and not getting a "thank you" we would say the …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:35 PM
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taller than me in heels How tall are you in heels? (Just kidding, but at first I thought you were a woman and you were talking about wearing heels.)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:38 PM
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Furthermore, having an AI boyfriend/girlfriend will be an absolute status killer. That may be true, but owning an expensive car is a status symbol and owning an economy car is a status killer, but there's still plenty of people in economy cars and lots of people without expensive luxury/sports cars.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 06:30 AM
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Among 35-44 year-old men right now, roughly a third of them are in the "never married" category. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2014/09/24/record-share-of-americans-have-never-married/st-2014-09-24-never-married-18/ Based on the trend lines on this graph, there are children alive right now which have only a 50% chance of ever being married by age 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:38 AM
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There's a weird thing on this sub where, when people want to defend a genders dating requirements, they reduce it to a very small set of things. I think it's completely inaccurate to say that women just want a stable and confident man. The dating market is brutal and there's tons of reasons a woman would disqualify a man. There's been plenty of talk and evidence of this, frequently from women themselves. Examples: https://youtu.be/T3XkgbOFyJU https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ew5mlQwXIAEGnet?format=jp…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 05:20 AM
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I don't think it's as easy as your framing. First, I think women are more talkative than men and interested in doing that. I sort of wonder if women get a bit of a dopamine hit by talking. Maybe it is an evolved trait because it was important for women to form alliances with other women against men, since men are bigger than them. This is what Bonobo females do. I don't know exactly why this is, but my mom is always way more talkative on the phone than my dad is. I'm guessing that's the case wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:18 AM
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It's possible to understand supply and demand and ALSO be correct that dating is harder for men. They aren't mutually exclusive. All your argument does is provide an explanation as to why it's correct that dating is harder for men. "Damn, it sucks that our homes are flooded." "Is it really do hard to understand that natural disasters happen on earth?" "What?"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:23 PM
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There's plenty of rich guys who suck at dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:42 AM
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One of the most common books mentioned for dating is Models by Mark Manson.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:41 AM
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Stirling Cooper ( who purportedly was a straight male escort for women. ) His claim to fame was being a porn star.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:35 AM
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Tucker Max went full tradcon. He's married and has like five kids now and lives on a farm. He used to have a podcast about how to date women, which I've listened to, but he was subtley condescending towards his guests. I got so sick of it that couldn't listen anymore. Dude was so full of himself while "giving advice to men".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:32 AM
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And nobody thinks it's an accomplishment for gay men to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 04:22 AM
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Women are 6x as likely to die in a car accident than be murdered by a significant other. If banning women from cars is what it takes to keep women safe...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:17 PM
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When it comes to killing, the rates are much closer than most people realize. Of the 2340 deaths at the hands of intimate partners in the US in 2007, female victims made up 70%. FBI data from the mid-1970s to mid-1980s found that for every 100 husbands who killed their wives in the United States, about 75 women killed their husbands.[3] However, wives were more likely to kill their husbands than vice versa in some US cities including Chicago, Detroit, Houston,[3][4] and St. Louis. https://en.m.w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:14 PM
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but punching people is cool Punching is very often not cool. The only time it's "cool" is in very narrow circumstances where the target has it coming. I remember when I was younger, a few of my cousins world get into stupid fist-fights because some guy liked at them wrong or whatever. He'd come home all beaten up. It was very much not respected. It was very much seen as a character flaw. If being feminine is bad, then why does feminism want to make men more feminine?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:59 AM
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That's a pretty biased source, though. When people think of masculine traits in society, it's much more mixed. I think "violent" would probably be one of the masculine attributes that would probably get brought up. There was an interesting video I saw years ago where a guy was in front of a crowd and asked for male traits. A bunch of different people were yelling negative attributes about men. He started writing them down on a whiteboard. Then he says "let's talk about sexism".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:56 AM
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I don't know that I believe that explanation for NLOG. I think part of it is just wanting to feel special and unique. Especially when people are teenagers, people can feel insecure and overlooked. Girls can feel "lesser" relative to other girls who are more popular or attractive, so the whole NLOG thing is partly a flex on "you other girls are all the same, but I'm my own person". It's partly intrasexual competition, and an attempt at feeling special, unique and "better than" in a crowd where th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 12:50 AM
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Seems pretty bitchy to me. If she's unhappy with his idea, she could give a suggestion for him to consider, not go ''my way or the highway''. This phrasing doesn't come off as ''simply asserting my boundaries'', it is incredibly pushy and demanding. There are many ways to get one's point across and some people just pick the worst option. I agree. If I was trying to date a woman and she did that, I would take it as an indicator that she's always going to be a demanding pain in the ass to deal wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:18 AM
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No we don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 04:12 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHdO4uMD2Us https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKmvvBelNcw The YouTuber running these experiments is in Miami.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:26 AM
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The claim that it's "half the time" is so obviously untrue. If you said 1% of the time, then sure. You're exaggerating in a very specific direction in order to create "evidence" for your conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 03:24 AM
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This reminds me of that Tiktoker who basically advocated that humans behave this way - i.e. do what's best for the group. The big problem with it is that it's evolutionary unstable. It's the genes is the reproducers that get passed on. This means that people who are self-sacrificing for the group are the least likely to pass on their genes. And people who "selfishly" take advantage of those people and produce lots of children (which get taken care of by the generous people) are the ones who spre…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 10:05 PM
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My favorite place to read fan fiction is on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:29 AM
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While I do advocate for approaching women, I can also see why some men might not do it. For some men, the "me too" movement put a chilling effect on approaching women because men were more uncertain about not appearing as a creep. (BTW, I'm not against the "me too" movement. This isn't an attempt to go out of my way to criticize it. But we can acknowledge that good movements can have negative side-effects. Just like medicine can have negative side effects.) I often see women complaining online a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:12 AM
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With time everyone comes to term with the lack of good genes in them. I disagree with the claim that a "lack of good genes" is the problem. I think there are some bad genes that are being selected for, and some good genes which aren't being selected for. As I've pointed out before, high school dropouts have the most kids. Are high school dropouts the ubermensch of humanity?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:21 PM
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I wonder if this is from the hypersexualized media we pump out in the west. Sex & the city, Nikki Minaj, etc Could be part of it. It might be partially true in the sense that their local women are less willing to have sex quickly - i.e. they're screening for commitment. So in a relative sense, Western women are "easier" but not as easy as foreign guys think.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:56 PM
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I saw a post on a different subreddit a while back. From what they were saying: Regarding Asian countries specifically: Western men were much more progressive than Asian men. They were less likely to commit domestic violence, were more egalitarian, were less likely to cheat, were more likely to help around the house and do childcare, and were less likely to smoke. (To put smoking into perspective: roughly half of all Chinese men smoke. The rates are high in other Asian countries, too.) I've also…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 05:29 PM
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Being picky is a good thing. Depends on what people are picky about, because people can be picky about all the wrong things and select for all the wrong things. To quote one author: "[when it comes to dating] we care too much about things that don't matter, and care too little about things that do matter". As a guy, if I only wanted to have kids with meth addicts, I would be "picky". But that doesn't mean that "being picky is a good thing".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 04:10 PM
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I think half of those AITA threads are just made up stories anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 06:08 PM
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We couldn’t be together because America was racist That's super crazy because Korea is more racist than the US. I have a friend who lives there, and I hear about it. Some bars and clubs literally won't let black people inside. My friend was telling her friends on Facebook that they need to boycott the bars and clubs that won't let black people inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:58 PM
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Funny, earlier today I was thinking about this. Years ago, I had a girlfriend who had roommates. One of her roommates was this weird guy who was probably 6'4". He was often doing weird shit. I wouldn't be surprised if he had some mild mental illness. Anyway, one day this woman is over at the house. She was smart and beautiful. Like, top 1%. I don't remember is she was an ex-girlfriend or not, but she was really really into him and trying to date him. I couldn't understand it. I wanted to ask her…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 06:51 PM
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Weird that we work to avoid suffering then.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 05:52 AM
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It's important to shut down incorrect information. What's the alternative? Let people throw around completely inaccurate information and convince others people based on that fiction?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 09:24 PM
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Most full time workers are men. Additionally, men who work full time work more hours, on average, than women who work full time. This is because the definition of "full time" means 35 hours or more. But there's more men who are working 50+ hour weeks. Most part-time workers are women. According to U.S. census data, men spend an average of 41.0 hours per week at their jobs, while women work an average of 36.3 hours per week. And Among men who worked in 2021, 74.6 percent worked full time, year ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 08:40 PM
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One thing I think all the other commenters have missed is the fact that the Western Media likes black men a lot more than it likes black women. If you pay attention to commercials, TV shows, and movies, it's more likely to cast black men than black women in major roles. The media has elevated black men relative to black women. If you looked back at the media, say, 50+ years ago, it was white men and white women who were the "cool people" and the main characters in TV and movies. Despite anti-rac…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 05:40 PM
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This post is wrong for a bunch of different reasons. Part of the reason for men's lack of success on dating apps is because of the gender imbalance. If there's 3 guys for every woman, guys are going to get fewer matches and women can increase their standards (i.e. go for guys above her attractiveness level and ignore guys that are equally attractive as her) and still be successful. I've seen plenty of guys post their profiles on other subreddits asking why they weren't getting matches or weren't…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 01:32 AM
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If someone is a "gender activist", they are typically extreme and outspoken. The worst part about it is the one-sidedness of their opinions - i.e. their gender's problems are exaggerated in their own minds and the other gender's problems are minimized, dismissed, or treated as less important. So I doubt that "feminists vary a lot in their viewpoints" is relevant when we're talking about "gender activists".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 01:10 AM
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I was raised in an evangelical Christian family. We were always taught "abstinence only" education and to be virgins until marriage. You'd have to look to churches to find that, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:46 PM
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Because of patriarchal standards derived from religion FYI, the only place in America where boys are taught to stay virgins until marriage is in religious groups. Heck, there's even a section in the book of Revelations where they talk about 144000 "pure" men who have never slept with a woman. These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:44 PM
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No it isn't. Especially in societies where wealth is very unevenly distributed, women make informed decisions to be a third wife to a rich man over being the first wife of a poor man. It's not because men were in charge. It's because of wealth inequality and women choosing their mates in those circumstances. Of course, not many people were actually polygamist even in societies where polygyny was practiced.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:35 AM
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most of the extreme slut shaming I see online comes from men not women. Usually women defend promiscuous women even if they themselves don’t agree with their lifestyle since they see the shaming as sexist and a double standard. Read these articles: https://time.com/107228/women-misogyny-twitter-study-demos/ https://www.google.com/search?q=a+cold+war+fought+by+women https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/05/slut-shaming-and-class-a-study-on-how-college-women-decide-whos-trashy-and-whos-classy.html
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 07:19 PM
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You should know that women shame women to "keep them in their place", too. It isn't about "misogyny" it's about intrasexual competition. Examples: https://www.google.com/search?q=a+cold+war+fought+by+women and https://www.nbcnews.com/better/wellness/why-do-college-students-slut-shame-it-s-class-thing-n117416 On some level, you could even argue that women want to maintain the status quo on shaming promiscuous women because it allows women to drive up the price for sex. Instead of an "easy lay" or…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:12 PM
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By saying "content creators", you're talking about a subset of social media. I know women on social media (not content creators) who seem weirdly secretive about their boyfriend/husband. For example, there's one woman that I knew years ago. Haven't seen her in ages, but we still follow each other on instagram. She posts tons of pictures of herself. They aren't selfies, she clearly had someone taking pictures of her. For a long time, I wondered who the photographer was. At some point, she did pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 01:17 AM
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once you hit 30 you'll notice a really strong shift in your attractiveness towards women, they'll start to be interested in you by the dozen, it's just how life works. That shits a lie. Things don't get any better when you hit 30.
/r/seduction08/09/23 04:13 PM
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It will teach you that Nice Guys aren’t nice, they’re dishonest and operating from fear. That's not actually true. There are guys who are legitimately nice. Still - it doesn't get you anywhere with women and will likely make things more difficult with women.
/r/seduction08/09/23 04:11 PM
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We all know it, you know it, and yet your ego is so blown up you can't just accept it. In the same way, guys who are rejected by women they find attractive protect their fragile egos by going "she's ugly anyway", like, come on, you're not fooling anyone, if you weren't attracted to her you wouldn't approach her, stop lying to everyone, it makes you look gross and incredibly crass for nothing but the sake of licking your wounds and it showcases you are self centered instead of a good mate. No off…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:55 AM
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To me the term applies when their negative actions towards women (or men) directly play into pre-existing misogynistic/patriarchal concepts. For example a woman who calls other women whores and sluts for merely having casual sex. It sounds to me like old fashioned intrasexual competition, not internalized misogyny. Women call it "internalized misogyny" because it's a way to get the woman to stop using words like "slut" against other women by implying that she's hurting herself as a woman and tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:15 AM
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More like: the people with the least options in life and the people too irresponsible to use birth control having kids. It's the road to Idiocracy. Evolution doesn't automatically mean improving the species. It 100% favors dumb people if they reproduce faster than smart people. And evolution will turn humanity into apes again if the least intelligent people are the ones having the most kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:45 PM
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I don't think kids were an asset on a farm. I can't imagine any kid being productive before the age of 10. I do think that they were probably closer to neutral than kids born today, though, where child expenses are quite high. I also don't think people should be paid to have kids because all it will do is attract low functioning, low education people. Think about this scenario: one woman is stupid and educated. She can work at McDonald's for peanuts or become a "professional mother" for money. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:43 PM
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I think you're confused about how things play out. The people with the highest fertility are ... high school dropouts, not educated people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:24 PM
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It's selfish to HAVE kids if anything. It's the most narcissistic thing. I don't want my body destroyed anymore than it already is I'm surprised you followed "having kids of selfish and narcissistic" immediately with stuff about how it harms your body. It would make more sense if you flipped that to "I'm selfish and narcissistic, I don't want it to harm my body".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:11 PM
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This is happening in every developed country. It's not just in the US. And the US fertility rates have been slowly declining for a long time. The fertility rate dropped below 2.0 in 1973, and has remained between 1.6 and 2.1 for the past 50 years. This isn't a result of recent changes in abortion laws. https://www.google.com/search?q=us+fertility+rate&oq=us+fertility+rate
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 03:43 PM
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The fertility rate in the US is 1.64, which is below replacement. Even the historically high Mormon fertility rates have been declining towards the US average.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 03:36 PM
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Not true at all. There's plenty of good guys. But standards have also increased. And the desire to have kids has decreased.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:58 AM
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Let's be honest. That's not most people's lives. Lots of people are staring at their phones and watching tiktok.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:44 AM
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FYI: it's not "westernized" countries. Birthrates are crashing everywhere. It won't be long before every country is at or below replacement level fertility. Getting people from elsewhere isn't a solution. Heck, I just saw that South Korea reached an all-time low of 0.7 fertility rate, which is 1/3rd the fertility rate needed for a stable population. The reality is that no country has figured out how to combine a developed economy (anything over $10k or $20k per capita) with female education and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 06:52 PM
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In my experience, fuck boys with high N-counts were raised by single mothers. Now they’re terrible in actual relationships but they get pussy. Was just thinking that they're behaving like their fathers, which is why Mom ended up single. On the other hand, I'm reminded of that tu-pac interview where he talked about not wanting to be a "bad man" like the men his mother would complain about. He would be really nice to women, and how it resulted in a terrible dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 01:12 PM
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It's a total myth that men weren't competing for women throughout history. And plenty of men and women didn't have any kids. This whole idea that men were just owed a woman and women had zero say in the matter is a modern feminist myth. The goal of that myth is to frame women as perpetual victims and buttress the ideology of feminism. It's a way to say "without feminism, women would be sold off to men like slaves, and if you don't support feminism, it'll happen again". It's a total myth promoted…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 06:52 PM
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I don't think they're vilifying guys who get sex. I think they hate when objectively bad guys are doing a good job getting sex. When a decent guy is getting sex, nobody thinks too much about it. But when bad guys get sex, it seems unfair. It's like watching your lazy, stupid coworker get promotions and raises and you can't figure out why. That's the point of that "radicalizing the romanceless" article, wasn't it -- that a shitty guy had plenty of baby mommas?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 06:38 PM
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Being tall doesn't mean athletic. I've seen plenty of awkwardly tall men and women who aren't in any position to play sports. Also, tallness is well correlated with shorter lifespan. I guess we're like dogs in that way - small dogs have long lifespans and large dogs have shorter lifespans. It's hard on the body to be too large. Here's a source: Researchers also discovered that "shorter, smaller bodies have lower death rates and fewer diet-related chronic diseases, especially past middle age." Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 06:25 PM
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I agree with him. The fact of the matter is that what's best for the individual might be terrible for society. Sometimes these things are at odds with each other. The end result of this is a small period of happier people and a long term negative for humanity. In some ways, it's like burning all the fossil fuels. Yeah, it's cheap fuel that can make society wealthy. But it can be bad for the planet after a century of partying down with all the fossil fuels. Although, to be honest, I think burning…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:46 PM
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If conservatives really thought free birth control and sex ed would do anything, they‘d gladly pay for it since every scenario is cheaper than paying welfare for tribes of poor kids born out of wedlock in crime-ridden areas. I don't think you understand conservatives. Conservatives would be far happier paying for prisons than paying for education. They constantly argue for "personal responsibility" which means: "I don't owe you anything". In other words: I'm not paying for anybody's birth contro…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:22 PM
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royals used to inbreed That doesn't have anything to do with royals having bad genetics. Royals genetics were no worse than anybody else, but having kids with closer relatives will always cause bad recessive genes to show up in a person's phenotype. A very inbred person who has kids with a non-related person will have 100% normal children, meaning that inbreeding didn't affect anything except for that one generation. the poor were naturally selected to be stronger I don't know. Heck, rich people…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:09 PM
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1- not enough to be statically relevant. It is statically relevant. It's not just about age gaps when you think about people in their 20s. The age gaps are larger for people's second and third marriages. Here's a website showing the number of single people in various age groups. Drag the slider around, and it's clear that there's a disproportionate number of single men in among 20-somethings. Once you get to 50 years old and older, there's a disproportionate number of single women. This is likel…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:02 PM
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Yeah, but the fact that men's and women's fantasies are different should immediately raise questions about why. Why, for example, is 50 Shades liked by women, but there's no gender flipped version for men - where a shy insecure 20-something journalist guy is asked to interview a rich female billionaire with a BDSM room and ends up married with kids with her. And why are male fantasies often around being a violent bad-ass in videogames or movies but girls aren't? These are questions which deserve…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:32 PM
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most men like video games and many of the most popular video games include shooting or violence therefore men have hidden desires to shoot people and be violent. Lots of men have the fantasy of being a violent bad ass who defeats enemies who need to be defeated (e.g demons, zombies, Nazis). So, yes, but you left out the very important point about the target being evil bad guys. Men want an outlet for that violence which is just and right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:22 PM
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Because the last I heard, gamers swore on their lives that experience with violent video games have nothing to do with mass shootings. You're mixing up several things here. First: there's the common claim that violent videogames cause school shootings. It likely goes the opposite way: violent kids are more likely to love violent videogames and want to do shootings. The rate of murder caused by teenagers had actually gone down since violent videogames became common. It's possible that violent vid…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:14 PM
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I mean, "youth" is one of the top attributes that men look for in women and 20-something women are considered the most physically attractive. And yeah, many of the guys reading manga are on the extreme end of that and are pedos. A while back I saw an interview with one of the artists. It seemed clear that the artist was into underage girls. And yeah, plenty of guys would like super powers. Gamers secretly want to mutilate people and cause mass casualties? Mutilate? What games are you even talkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:54 PM
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I do agree that it's not all bad boys and billionaires. Although they are a common theme. I think OP should include "has authority and is bad ass" in the list too. The kind of guy who has respect, can get shit done, and can handle a crisis. Cowboy, cop and firefighter easily fit into that trope. (On some level, this also fits into the "wanting a daddy" kind of trope.) Not sure about the traits of the male lead of those other jobs you listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 12:47 PM
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Men and boys aren’t falling behind because feminists have banned them from school. What's interesting is that when women do poorly in school or avoid certain subjects - like math or computer science, we don't say "girls weren't banned from those subjects, therefore..." And when universities had two male students for every female student back in the 1970s, feminists didn't say "girls aren't banned from university, therefore it isn't a problem that needs to be fixed on a societal level". We could …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:58 PM
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If you really believe it’s so much easier and better to be a woman today in the USA, you’re in luck — you can change your gender, or even your sex! Lol. And what happens when you flip the genders? "If you really believe it's so much easier and better to be a man today in the USA, you're in luck -- you can change your gender, or even your sex." Not willing to change your gender? I guess this means that men aren't privileged, and you undermined your own argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 09:29 AM
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I don't see feminists fighting these things on the list either. Feminists are so wrapped up in the idea of females as victims that they often don't care about men's issues. I was once talking to a die-hard feminist woman in real life and raised the issue of why STEM scholarships exist for women, but similar scholarships don't exist for men even though there's degrees where women dominate and women dominate in college degrees in general. Example: The courses with the highest percentage of female …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:33 AM
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That's true. I think sometimes people want to say something that nobody will disagree with, so they say things like "take a shower". Obviously being smelly and dirty will damage a man's dating options, but it's not the problem that most guys are having. It also frames the guy as an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 05:19 PM
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As women are outpacing men in education, more and more men will practice this form of hypergamy. Huh? So if any trait is more common in one gender than choosing to date rather than remain single is "hypergamy". Yeah, ok. 👍 What do you think is blue pill ideology? It's obvious that OP is saying that the hypergamy contradicts BluePill ideas about how being nice, sweet, and responsible member of society will get you the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:47 PM
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Teen pregnancy has been declining for a long time. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/08/02/why-is-the-teen-birth-rate-falling/ What does subsidies mean? Like x dollars per month in free money? This also creates bad incentives for poor people to have kids when they don't really want them, so they can get a check. (Admittedly, this is currently happening, since welfare pays extra based on the number of kids. But that's a problem too. I don't think there's an easy solution to that becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 03:55 PM
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You don't have to stalk them to know what's going on with them. I'm friends on social media with some of my ex-girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 03:26 PM
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On top of that: around 80% of all homicide victims are men. In the US, it's actually 82%. It's dumb that women think they're always at risk of being murdered. But people who listen to true crime would probably have no idea that's the case. According to the data given by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, worldwide, 78.7% of homicide victims are men. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide_statistics_by_gender That same wikipedia page also says that there's 3883 female homicide victim…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 03:25 PM
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Starting on January 1, 2016, all Chinese couples are allowed to have two children. This marks the end of China’s one-child policy, which has restricted themajority of Chinese families to only one child for the last 35 years. https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-end-of-chinas-one-child-policy/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 05:33 PM
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When women truly entered advertising, they use inclusive, imperfect models with flaws and freckles and stretch marks. But who complains about those ads which are made by women, for women? First, you're only talking about one specific brand of ads for women by women. Those are ads who's purpose is to sell products to women. Why would they need to sexualize the women in the ads for women? That's why they aren't sexualized. Second, women use sex to sell themselves to men all the time. Only fans mod…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 09:51 PM
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I think this is an extreme interpretation. Here's my interpretation: Women realize that her sexuality is valuable and desired. That makes it powerful. Using her sexuality, a woman can get attention. She can seduce the guy that she wants. She can get money by showing off her body. These are powerful things. These are not things that men can typically do - unless, perhaps, they are in the top 1%, and even then, his results will vary depending on the woman. But it's also something of a double edged…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 08:56 PM
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The phrase "to survive" is carrying an awful lot of assumptions. I have heard of cases of prostitutes earning a lot of money - a lot more money than other people working full-time jobs. They most definitely were not doing it to survive. That might not be true for most of them, but it's not as simple as "all prostitutes are barely surviving".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:23 AM
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All women are doing are exploiting the needs and weaknesses of the customers that would rather pay. You could say that about a lot of vices. I still don't think those vices should be legalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:19 AM
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It should be legal, the State has no business telling what someone should with their own bodies; As an opponent of libertarianism, I believe the state should be able to tell people what they can and can't do with their bodies in certain circumstances. I believe that certain hard drugs should be illegal depending on their side-effects on the rest of society. I'd be okay with legalizing all drugs - or making using legal, but dealing illegal - IF it was found to reduce drug abuse rates. In this cas…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:16 AM
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"I've said it and I'll say it again. Man hating and feminism is two different things. I support both " - Zara Larsson
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:04 AM
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I agree. I've also seen some amateur group sex porn (i.e. swinger parties). The women are NOT attractive. (Also why I don't continue watching it, it's just something that I clicked on because I was curious.) The guys aren't attractive, either, but I'm making a point about the women. Most of the women are overweight 40+ year old women who look like they've had a few kids. The general vibe I got from looking at them is that they no longer get attention from men because they let themselves go a lon…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 12:11 AM
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It’s not that difficult. I don't mean it's difficult to implement. I mean it's difficult to make it actually work at getting people good matches. And dating apps already tried that. On Hinge, you can input criteria and mark them as "preferred" or "dealbreaker". Here's a screenshot: https://dude-hack.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Is-HInge-Free-Preferences-735x650.webp OKCupid had a "match score" system where they would try to match you up with other people. For example, in this screenshot, notic…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 03:59 AM
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I’m a little skeptical on the 62% male and 38% female. Others on this sub have claimed 5-to-1 male to female ratio. The ratios have changed over time. Tinder used to have a lot more women on it. Most of the women have left. This is also why men used to talk about how Tinder was great for the first few years, but has been terrible in the most recent few years. Guys would talk about getting lots of matches in the past, but can hardly get anything now. That's all because women have mostly abandoned…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:33 PM
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Yeah, network effects are huge. They determine if dating websites/apps succeed or fail. For those who don't know: network effects refers to the fact that platforms become more valuable based on the number of people using it, and become less valuable if fewer people use it. There's no point on being on a dating site that has no other people on it. If a dating site has a few people on it, it's still basically worthless. You need a LOT of people on it for people to want to sign-up for it. Some of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:30 PM
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And for women, online dating sucks, every guy lies or has old pictures and looks different in person... I'm not trying to play the "both sides" card, but women do the same thing. There's been so many dates I've been on where women don't look like their pictures. I remember date I went on where the woman was at least 50 pounds heavier than her pictures. I sort of wondered if she had an eating disorder or thyroid problem, because it was a significant amount of weight gain. My general rule now is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:24 PM
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Technically it would be easy to implement a such algorithm. I very much doubt that. Also, a big question also involves whether or not there's enough good data about users to actually find good matches. Lots of dating websites and apps have tried to match people based on shared likes interests [edited for clarity]. Tinder used to allow people to list things they were interested in (not sure if they still do) and show their profile to other users based on shared likes. I believe OKCupid used to al…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 06:15 PM
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Or in a man's view, paying dinner for a woman entitles you for sex with her. these are both entitlement problems. I'd like to see a survey of how many guys actually believe that buying dinner for a woman entitles them to sex. Because I bet it's a really low percentage. Sure, maybe there's an occasional guy who tries to bully his way into sex by saying that he bought dinner for a woman. I doubt that he actually believes it, though. But if you look at the number of dates men go on in their lifetim…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 02:37 AM
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In many cases, men saying that women are too picky also comes from real world experience, not just dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:17 PM
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Most men are not "short". Men average five inches taller than women in almost every country. Regardless of how tall men are relative to women, women will still consider a man "short" if he is shorter than other men, even if he's taller than her. This reminds me of a podcast I was listening to a while back. The podcast involved men and women talking (no, it's not one of the red-pill podcasts), and one woman said she "loves a short king". After a little back and forth, one of the guys says "Wait, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 09:22 PM
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First, I don't understand why that distinction matters since women aren't (for the most part) dating women. Also, women have some bizarre standards for other women. On one hand, you say that women's standards for women are high. On the other hand, we have examples of women telling unattractive women that they are beautiful. For example, in the Barbie movie, Barbie tells an old woman (maybe 80) that she's beautiful. We have the fat acceptance movement. We have plenty of examples of women saying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:24 PM
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I do agree that "fuckable" and "actually attractive" are different things, but I also think that it's easier for women to be both.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:17 PM
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I want to put words in your mouth, but it seems like you believe my assumption is f*** boys are only successful because they follow women's advice. I'm saying that fuckboys are successful because they constantly hit on women and figure out through trial and error what works. Good guys are less successful because they aren't mass-approaching women to figure it out, and they aren't getting information from women about what they should be doing. The end result of these factors means that fuckboys h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:43 PM
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I think it's quite an assumption you're making. My own belief is that fuckboys have approached so many different women that they've already got a good idea of what works and doesn't. It's the good guys who are approaching few women that haven't figured out out yet. I've said it before: I know a few guys who literally work as salesman in their day job, and they bring that same attitude to dating: hit on lots of women and develop a system through lots of trial and error of getting women into bed. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:37 AM
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The fact that marriage, shotgun marriages, and child-support exists is a big step towards men behaving more like women in the sense that they are pair-bonding and raising their kids. This forces men to be more responsible with sex, and choose partners who are higher-quality and that they would want to spend significant amounts of time around. It's not 100% the same, but it's certainly a big step in that direction. This is in contrast to societies where men and women just come together for sex, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 01:18 AM
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Not sure what you're arguing. It's possible we would've gone extinct during the periods of time when human populations bottlenecked in the past. One of the bottlenecks: The controversial Toba catastrophe theory, presented in the late 1990s to early 2000s, suggested that a bottleneck of the human population occurred approximately 75,000 years ago, proposing that the human population was reduced to perhaps 10,000–30,000 individuals when the Toba supervolcano in Indonesia erupted and triggered a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 01:10 AM
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Human beings evolved in Africa and branched out to other continents only in the past 70k years. I think that's what he's referring to. He's saying that we would've never left Africa, and the population numbers would've remained low (if not extinct).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 01:06 AM
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I would never want an AI girlfriend. It just seems insulting to go for someone/something artificial, kind of the same reason I'd never go to a prostitute: because paying for sex seems pathetic. But I could absolutely see the appeal for other men, and I worry that subsequent generations of men might see things differently than I do, and could see it as significantly easier than dealing with the dating market - both because women are flakey and have tons of options, but also because it takes signi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:05 AM
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I disagree that this is a good summary of the Red Pill. Most of these are just normal "hard truths about the world that everyone should learn as they become adults". Heck, "You won't get shit from life unless you earn it, and maybe not even then" is awfully vague in the dating context. What does "earn it" mean? There's a hundred things that men can do to "improve themselves" that have will have little to no effect on improving their dating opinions. A blue pillers could agree with "I need to imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 05:11 PM
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received plenty of accolades from presumably jealous (and married) classmates of ours. No offense, but that sounds an awful lot like "and everyone clapped".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:35 PM
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If a society starts dictating the romantic partners That sounds like a strawman to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:34 PM
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Yes. I've definitely heard it from lesbians, too. One lesbian I know was complaining about a woman she was dating for a couple months where she always expected my friend to pay for everything. My friend was more butch, so maybe this other woman expected her to play the masculine role. Another lesbian friend complained about going on a date with this woman that she had a crush on for a long time. The other woman ended up complaining about her ex the whole time, and my friend was turned off by the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:39 AM
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The Mormon birthrate has been declining significantly over the past decade. Article: "The incredible shrinking Mormon American family" https://religionnews.com/2019/06/15/the-incredible-shrinking-mormon-american-family/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:26 PM
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At this point I'm convinced that the West bought itself into a collective death cult. Pretty much every country is in the same death spiral. It's not just a problem of the West. The sub-saharan African countries are the only ones with high birthrates, but they're definitely on a downward trend. And I'd bet money that the only reason those countries still have high birthrates is because of the poverty and lack of cheap birth control (along with a cultural tradition of large families, which is wea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:15 PM
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Your link seems to be unsure about whether it's a real problem - from your link: In contrast, other studies do point to a decrease. Hagai Levine, an epidemiologist at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and his colleagues published an analysis in 2017 and an update in 2022 that evaluated a combined total of more than 200 studies that used a counting chamber. These two papers found about a 50 percent decrease in sperm concentration—most notably in Western countries—since the 1970s. Levine says th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 08:07 PM
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Is this satire?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 07:41 PM
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If I were trying to make a guess at this, I'd look at the research on frequency of masterbation. https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/chalabi-datalab-masturbation-2.png?w=610 Based on this infographic, if we assume that everyone with a masterbation frequency of 4+ times per week is "high libido", then among 25-29 year-olds (i.e. when libido is highest according to the chart): 5% of women are high libido and 20% of men are high libido. If we count "2+ times a week" as "high libi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:31 AM
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Maybe. A lot of those Barbies were much more modern than 1959, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:53 AM
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There have been 115 male Supreme Court Justices, only 6 have been women. That's a pretty ridiculous way to look at it, though, because it's not the world anybody actually lives in. My point still stands: Barbieland is more matriarchal than the real world is patriarchal. Essentially what you're saying is that - if the real world was a completely gender-equal paradise and Barbieland was a total matriarchal society, that it could still be called a "gender flipped version of the real world" because …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:49 AM
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To expand on what JNRoberts said: matrilineal: the word "lineal" means lineage, as in "how is ancestry traced back". In the developed world, we have a "patrilineal" way of tracing lineage in the sense that we take our father's last name. patriarchy and matriarchy: the suffix "archy" refers to "rule of". It's related to words like "monarchy" (rule of kings and queens), anarchy (no rulers), "plutocracy or plutarchy" (rule by the rich). The "-archy" suffix is related to the word "Archon" means rule…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:35 AM
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A friend of mine really wanted to go, so I went with her. The biggest thing I've seen on reddit is women talking about how it was an accurate portrayal of the real world, that at the end Ken is told he a positive message about being enough, and equality comes to Barbieland. I didn't think any of those things were true. I felt like the analogy of a gender-flipped world went too far. I feel like that's a common tactic: to create an analogy, but change the details in order to make your own viewpoin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 07:57 AM
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The opening scene was about how girls only had baby dolls so their only option was to play the "mother" role till Barbie came along. That's incorrect. Paper dolls existed a long time before Barbie, and they represented adult women (in addition to babies). Mattel is doing revisionist history by claiming that. 1919 magazine illustration of actress Norma Talmadge and some of her film costumes in paper doll form ... Book publishing companies that followed in the production of paper dolls or cut-outs…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 06:59 AM
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I think it's pretty obvious that a "parallel world" would mean contemporary numbers. Alternative interpretations are just a power-grab and they make no sense from the "gender flipped" interpretation. If what you're saying is right, then if our world currently had 9 female supreme court justices, then Barbieworld would still be able to get away with "only 5% men on the supreme court". It would be ludicrous to call our world a "patriarchy" or pretend like Barbieworld was a flip-sided version of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 06:53 AM
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He said "average guys". The guys on Queer Eye are trainwreck guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 04:52 AM
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First, the vast majority of money in the stock market is rich-people money. Second, the purchase of real estate is probably just related to BlackRock's REIT investments (i.e. "Real estate investment trusts"), which isn't the stock market. Lots of people are going to have pensions and mutual funds and have no money going into REITs. Third, the idea that having a pension automatically makes you guilty is pretty absurd. Let's assume it's true. Now this means the guy has to choose between having no …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 05:14 PM
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If you have ANY investments, you’re almost certainly directly contributing to the problem you’re complaining about Me owning Google stock does not contribute to BlackRock (an entirely different company) buying up houses. Hell, even if my company had a pension through BlackRock (which it doesn't), it doesn't mean that my specific investments in mutual funds has anything to do with BlackRock's purchase of houses. BlackRock's purchase of home is probably related to it's REIT investments. Definition…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 05:09 PM
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Chimps and bonobos are very promiscuous and have no shame about incest or homosexuality and everyone is free game. When scientists tested the paternity of children, they found that some males do significantly better than other males in the group. People like to claim that bonobos are like free-love hippies that have sex with everyone, but it definitely isn't true when you look at paternity. I've heard that a lot of the "mating" is cut short by the females, and is close to foreplay and has nothin…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:20 PM
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Yup. Source: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/07/170710122949.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:11 PM
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Bonobos evolved only 800,000 years ago, nearly 10x earlier then the diversion from chimpanzees to humans. Humans clearly coming from a chimp like ancestor. I'm unclear on what you're trying to say. Here's an image showing the lineage of humans and the other apes: https://www.nature.com/scitable/content/ne0000/ne0000/ne0000/ne0000/96688710/1_2.jpg At the time that humans branched off from the chimpanzee-bonobo lineage, they (chimps and bonobos) were still one species.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:09 PM
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was frustrated that every single guy that she matched with made zero effort to get to know anything about her and just sent a deluge of sexual messages. I don't believe you at all. I've talked to my female friends, and they said that when on Tinder they were surprised at how few creepy messages they'd get from guys. Years ago, I made a fake female profile to see how much attention women were getting. In 22 messages, there were zero sexual ones. This makes me think that either: you or your friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 04:43 PM
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are either autistic, overweight, too young to compete How did you come to that conclusion? Do you have a video created by every man who says dating is difficult? Or is this just an assumption based on a just-world fallacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:20 AM
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I see it fairly commonly where I live. But there are more men than women here, so there's plenty of guys who are forced to date down of they want a girlfriend. If say most couples I see are roughly looks-matched though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 01:16 AM
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Women lie. It’s ok they do because it’s for a good reason. I initially thought you were being sarcastic. I think that's a cop-out. It's just an excuse for being dishonest. There's also a certain point when you can call someone dishonest even if they "have good reason". If I was looking for advice from someone, and that person had a pathological fear of me because I'm bigger than them, so every word out of their mouth had nothing to do with the truth and everything to do with managing some hypoth…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 12:44 AM
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Ironically, if women were more tolerant of "cheating" then men would not reject them due to their bad looks nearly as much. Yes, that's what I said - monogamous men have higher physical standards than polyamourous men because novelty is part of the appeal of a new woman, and the ideal evolutionary sexual strategy for males is "quantity, not quality" and "love them and leave them". But women's physical standards would increase because why would an average woman sleep with some average dude when s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 12:34 AM
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It literally is changing in our lifetime. 19% of Gen Z has experience of a poly relationship, compared to just 10% of millennials and 7% of Gen X. I'd bet money those numbers aren't right. Do you have a source? The fact of the matter is that poly might be common in places like San Francisco, but it isn't anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 12:27 AM
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My point is that taller does not mean better genes. The points you're bringing up don't have to do with having better genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 11:16 PM
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Nah. Physical attractiveness is important whether we're talking about monogamy, polyamory, or one night stands. Personality has the highest value in monogamy, and less value in polyamory and ONS. The way this plays out for men and women is different, though. For men: In monogamy, he wants a combination of looks and personality. In polyamory or ONS, men's standards for everything (looks, personality, and compatibility) are lower. He's not committing to her, so he's willing to sleep with unattract…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 11:01 PM
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Seems doubtful. Studies have shown that taller men have shorter lifespans. Height is inversely correlated with lifespan. Here's a source, if you don't believe me: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/24/shorter-people-may-live-longer-than-most-heres-why.html I suppose it's similar to how bigger dogs have shorter lifespans than smaller dogs. Maybe it could be argued that short height is correlated with poor nutrition in childhood (which is true, a low protein diet stunts growth). Or tall men tend to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 10:37 PM
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The biggest issue is our planet can't sustain that kind of growth which is partly why traditional relationships were done away with to begin with. What? Those two things have nothing to do with each other. We didn't eliminate traditional relationships in order to save the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 12:33 AM
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The interesting thing is that a number of those religious groups no longer have large families. Catholics routinely use birth control and don't have large families anymore. Fundamentalists don't really have large families - maybe three kids, unless you're talking about the "quiverfull movement" which is a tiny subgroup of fundamentalists. I recently heard that the Mormon family size is way down, too. Gradually in the 1980s and ′90s, Latter-day Saint leaders stopped overtly preaching against birt…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 12:29 AM
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I'm not bluepill, so I'll comment here. I think women have much more extensive requirements for men than men do for women. One of the roles a man is supposed to perform is to be simultaneously tough/strong on top of being sweet and kind (to her). A man who is harmless and kind is lacking in the tough/strong category, and there's no obvious way that he can be tough/strong. This also comes off as low-status, as harmless and kind people must appeal to the mercy of people stronger than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:55 AM
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I'm skeptical that men are less self aware than women. When I think of online dating scams, there are plenty of women falling for them. For example, the Tinder Swindler was scamming women by pretending he was a billionaire. Those women had to believe that they could land a billionaire. There are plenty of other examples of women getting scammed by catfishers. This sub wouldn't exist if more men were self aware. Seems questionable. I can think of reasons this sub could exist even if every guy was…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 09:38 PM
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Don't you know? Her Validation = the amount of effort he puts in - the amount of effort she puts in. The maximize validation, she should do as little as possible while receiving as much as possible. But, if he goes to far, then he's a doormat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 07:32 PM
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The number of marriages in Scandinavia are declining, not increasing. https://images.app.goo.gl/Lzowj6yDG5mJBj9MA
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:19 PM
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All countries are showing the same trend. And most developed countries are falling below replacement level fertility. It's not just South Korea. Japan is at 1.34. Taiwan is at 1.23. Italy is at 1.24.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:49 PM
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Nah. Muslims are not reproducing like crazy. Muslim fertility rates have fallen to around replacement levels. Here's a map: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_fertility_rate Iran's fertility rate has fallen to 1.7 per woman (a rate of 2.1 is needed for replacement). Turkey is at 1.9. Saudi fertility rate 2.4. Morocco is at 2.35. These countries' fertility rate are also in decline. They were at 6-8 children per woman in 1960. All these countries felt rates are continuing to decline. Saudi Arab…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 03:39 PM
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A few years ago, some red pill troll created a blog post arguing exactly this: that a man who doesn't want his wife/girlfriend to sleep with other men is controlling and it is part of the patriarchy to control women's sexuality. A few people, including a few men, reposted it. I remember Dax Shapard (husband to Kristen Bell) approvingly retweeted it. I don't agree that this attitude will become mainstream, though, mostly because as soon as someone argues that "men need to allow their wife/girlfri…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:13 PM
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Some of them do allow you to filter who you see based on criteria like this. Hinge, for example, allows for preferences based on: age, ethnicity, religion, height, (current) children, (future) family plans, drug use, smoking, weed use, drinking, politics, education. You can mark them as "prefer" or "dealbreakers".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 06:57 AM
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I wonder how often women get on those groups in an attempt to ruin the dating life of their exes. "Oh, you're dating Steve? I'm dating him too! OMG. He's cheating on both of us. You'd better break it off quick."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 05:54 AM
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Was looking at Prof G's instagram. He has been talking about men's issues a lot in the past few years. What I found most dismal was the dismissiveness of women in the comments, and how many upvotes they got. I expect that kind of attack on PPD, but this is mainstream. https://www.instagram.com/p/CusAJtdgc77/ Top comment: As a woman, gotta say I find it hard to care about men’s “struggles.” Being a woman is a thankless job, especially in the context of motherhood, and we’ve fought hard to get a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 05:51 AM
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I don't even understand how you reached your conclusion. If I said "women need to weigh less than 200 pounds", I would also get haters in the comments. People would tell me I'm fatphobic. I would get hate from women who were over 200 pounds and felt that it shouldn't disqualify them. Some might point out that some women have thyroid problems. So, could I conclude, based on the backlash, that women are the problem because they aren't willing to do the one thing that would make them attractive - i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 08:32 PM
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unmarried women couldn't even get reliable access to credit cards until the 1970s. The first credit card didn't even exist until 1958. Banks can and did give them to single women. They just weren't legally obligated to give them to women until the Equal Credit Opportunity Act. Women just needed to get a credit card from a bank that would give one to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 05:47 AM
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That's just libertarian nonsense. There's LOTS of ways that socialism benefits the general population. Also, I hate how people play this dumb game of pretending like "socialism" is synonymous with communism when it suits them, but then they turn around and paint everything that isn't strict libertarianism as "socialism" as a way to criticize it. Socialism is public schools, libraries, roads, police, social security, national and state parks. Regulation is important for stopping companies from po…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 02:38 AM
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Yeah. It's well known that the formula for so many romance novels is the "coconut" model - i.e. a male love-interest that's tough on the outside, but soft and sweet for her, and she's special and the only one that can get his love and affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:33 AM
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I disagree with OP that women have "total control", but just because each person gets to decide "yes" or "no" doesn't mean both people have equal power in the dating game. A lot of the "power" comes from the number of options or number or good options people have. To use an analogy: in the real estate market, depending on the year and location, sometimes the market is a "buyers market" and sometimes it's a "sellers market". If it's a "sellers market", typically, there's lots of people lined up t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 05:39 PM
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So you’re confused why confidence is in demand? Think about the opposite: FEAR, uncertainty, hesitation, nervous, indecisive, stressed, defensive, cautious, needy, apprehensive, etc. the list goes on. This is called a false dichotomy. I've seen the same game played with "why do women like tall men" and people try to create a false dichotomy between "would you rather be with a 6+ foot man, or a below-five-foot midget? How would that affect your future children..."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:52 PM
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I was thinking about this recently, and my conclusion was that the "ick" mostly happen when men: act like a woman, acts like a child, or acts incompetent, even for a short time. These can be: appearing weak, incompetent, too emotionally expressive or reactive (rather than stoic), speaking in a high-pitched voice, being too concerned with his appearance, "sitting with legs crossed", etc. "Acting like a child" can mean a lot of things, including incompetence, lack of confidence, but can also mean …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:23 PM
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Yeah, one of the biggest problems with PPD is the number of shit-talkers here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:25 AM
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Lol. She watched some "my marriage is terrible" toktoks, the algorithm began serving up lots of similar videos, and she concluded that all women hate their marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:54 AM
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The statistics I've seen have young men and young women cheating at about the same rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:42 AM
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In the 2022 GSS Survey 85% of men 18 - 35 reported having at least one partner in the past year. The same survey where something like 70% of people didn't even answer the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:39 AM
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I don't believe men have a long list of expectations of women, and the expectations that men do have are shorter than the expectations that women have. https://jezebel.com/heres-a-single-womans-list-of-what-shes-looking-for-in-5987952 https://youtu.be/SfQDhqUbvLY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0wxSmrs5fs https://youtu.be/T3XkgbOFyJU https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ew5mlQwXIAEGnet?format=jpg&name=small I once asked a FWB what her standards were for a boyfriend and she quickly wrote down 30 attribut…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:36 AM
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I'd have to see evidence that the "She left for no reason" guys are the same ones who treated her like crap. There's also a thing called "trauma bonding" which could actually keep women in relationships when they are treated badly. Sometimes she walks away simply because he (or the relationship) is not exciting enough or her not having enough feelings to stay in the relationship. Here's a definition of trauma bonding: "Trauma bonding happens when an abuser uses manipulation tactics and cycles of…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:50 AM
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I agree with other commenters: it takes more than a pretty face for a guy to be successful. Women demand much more - having lots of other attractive qualities involving physical, emotional, and intellectual traits like: being charismatic, being a great talker, keeping her entertained, being interesting, being smart, popular, tall, confident, etc etc. Heck, women will even talk about how Henry Cavill doesn't turn them on, indicating that being a 10/10 doesn't get you as far with women. That's why…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 07:09 AM
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Eggs are expensive, sperm is cheap. I always hated that saying because it had nothing to do with eggs or sperm. If men produced one sperm reach month, women would still have the upper hand because it's not about the number of eggs or sperm that the genders produce. Women have to put more effort into a child - because of pregnancy, infant care, and child rearing than men do. This unequal division of labor means reproduction is cheaper for men than for women. And there are a few species where male…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 06:57 AM
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I don't believe that. When someone meets you, they often use "confidence" to assume traits about you that you may or may not actually have. It's basically going "if you believe in yourself, then I should believe in you, too" versus "if you don't believe in yourself, then I shouldn't believe in you either". It's a shortcut and it's lazy, but lots of people do it. I disagree that confidence means competence. In many cases, I have met people who were confident but seemed delusionaly confident. Othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:54 PM
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I sometimes wonder if people have double standards about this, because I see this kind of argument often on PPD. The argument is basically: if a man has any opinions with women, then he shouldn't complain. But the argument charges when we talk about women. Ask most women if they have options, they'll say "yes" but they're bad options. We then take it as "dating is terrible for women" and "men are bad". If we're treating both genders equally, then we should agree that "having mediocre options" is…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:59 AM
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I've seen attractive women end up with rich men who are good looking themselves. I've seen attractive women who kept dating around until they lost their looks and ended up as an unattractive single mom. In high school, there was a girl who was stunning. Probably the most attractive woman I've seen in real life. Looked her up on Facebook a while back. She looks very average today - you wouldn't even notice her if you saw her in a grocery store. She married some average guy. No idea when she lost …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:22 PM
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Nah. People can be insecure about other things about themselves. I also think confidence is also partly genetic and also based on childhood experiences which often happened before someone was attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:15 PM
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its obscene that theres a stigma against singles as socially inept Its really not, because its a solid assumption that socially inept people will be single. By your logic: (Nearly) everyone who gets rabies dies. Therefore, it's reasonable to assume that everyone who dies had rabies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:55 AM
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Yes. In two charts: Fewer and fewer people are getting married and in relationships. A chart: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2014/09/24/record-share-of-americans-have-never-married/st-2014-09-24-never-married-08/ Kids that are infants right now are on track to have a 50/50 chance of ever getting married by the age of 50. The effect is more pronounced for men than women: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2014/09/24/record-share-of-americans-have-never-married/st-2014-09-24-neve…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 01:55 AM
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The statistics vary, but it seems like a number of the sources do say 60% or 70%. 60% - source "According to 2019 statistics from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, males make up 61% of the homeless population." - source "7 out of 10 homeless and are men." - source "A study that explored only homeless shelters found that in 2009, 73.2% of shelter users 16 and older were male." - source
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 01:08 AM
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All human beings have intrinsic value. Don't confuse the idea of all people having value with the idea that people have value on the dating market. They are two different things. Similarly, if you run a business, not every person has value as an employee for your business (some people are drunks, lazy, stupid, unreliable, lacks the necessary skill, etc), even if they "have intrinsic value as human beings". Again, they are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 11:33 PM
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This one? “Yes, please do enlighten me. Email me at smalldickenergy @ getalife.com.” https://www.nme.com/news/greta-thunberg-claps-back-at-andrew-tates-small-dick-energy-3372184
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:57 PM
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This is true. It's weird because, as a guy, you can understand the appeal of some attractive and quirky girl shaking up your boring life. But feminists hate it because they see a movie with a manic pixie dream girl, know they can't live up to being that girl (no offense to them, it'd be tough to have a different personality). It's like they take it as a personal offense because they're looking for tips to be the "dream girl" so they can get their "dream guy". They realize they can't fulfill that…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:51 PM
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You're talking about men singing songs about women's bodies - like sir mixalot "I like big butts" or Queen's "fat bottomed girls (You make the rocking world go 'round)"? Neither of those are shaming women. Are you mad because they're praising one type of woman - a heavier, curvier woman (which admittedly isn't every heavy woman), and if you don't feel included then you feel bad? What songs are men are complaining about? Latto's "big dick energy" song? The "Short Dick Man" song? The second song i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:31 PM
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A guy wants to be a professional basketball player, but isn't athletic or tall enough to make it. I think I'll tell him the reason he didn't make it into the NBA is because he's "socially inept". /s (Note: I'm kinda trolling. I'm not a blackpiller who thinks everything is based on "how you look". I'm just kinda judging the idea that men's failure comes down to simply being "socially inept".)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:16 PM
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I don't know about that. I was listening to a podcast the other day about online dating, and one of the podcast guests, who is lesbian, said that she dated guys and dated women, and she said it's all shitty. I've also heard lesbian friends complain about dating women. I think gay men also complain about guys who just want to hookup and nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:02 AM
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I'm confused about your argument. You say most "romantic" movies are about a woman getting a rich guy, but then talk about Titanic as a romantic movie that doesn't fit the mould, but it's very popular as a romantic movie. It's true that a lot of romantic movies and books involve getting the "alpha" guy. A while back someone counted the top ten professions of the male lead in romance novels. Here they are: Doctor, Cowboy, Boss, Prince, Rancher, Knight, Surgeon, King, Bodyguard, Sheriff Most of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 07:41 PM
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Future? You mean this guy? Future, who is currently dating rapper Dess Dior, now has eight kids with eight different women https://www.capitalxtra.com/artists/future/news/future-kids-how-many-baby-mothers/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 06:11 PM
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Japan used to have high suicide rates. That's probably why people still think it's high - they're remembering old information. Relative to the US, it was quite high. But in the past two decades, the Japanese suicide rate has dropped, and the US suicide rate increased. Chart: https://www.nippon.com/en/ncommon/contents/japan-data/181562/181562.png
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 05:04 AM
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That's not the only issue at play here. Here's an interesting survey from Japan. It's from 10 years ago: A survey earlier this year by the Japan Family Planning Association (JFPA) found that 45% of women aged 16-24 "were not interested in or despised sexual contact". More than a quarter of men felt the same way. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/20/young-people-japan-stopped-having-sex There's something bizarre going on there. This is almost half of Japanese women. Heck, it's likely hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 04:55 AM
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You don't want goldiggers, but then expect a woman who would happily live off your paycheck. You sound like you think there's something intently contradictory about that. I think that only seems like a contraction if you don't think too deeply about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:54 AM
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I have a lot of male and female friends. Hands down - it's obvious that women have an easier time getting dates and finding people interested in them. This is based on my experience of seeing how my male and female friends are treated when we're out, and hearing their stories. Two of my friends dated briefly - which should indicate that they're around the same level of attractiveness. After they broke things off, the woman got on dating apps for a while and told me how she went on about 50 dates…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:48 PM
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"A feminist's accusing finger will always find a man"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:44 PM
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Depends on what is meant by "absent". If "absent" means that he's not around, that's different than "deadbeat" which is a man who takes no responsibility for his children, including evading child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:43 PM
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Yes, we criticize deadbeat dads. The problem is that, on some level, deadbeat dads are getting what they want: they have kids but none of the responsibility or financial burden. So, criticizing them doesn't have that much of an effect, so additional means are needed. It's like criticizing a con man. Yeah, they deserve criticism, but plenty of con men are like "your criticism doesn't hurt because I have a pile of stolen money, and I'd rather have money and criticism than neither of them". Part of…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:40 PM
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Good summary. It boggles my mind when people deny the reality of SMV or RMV. It's just putting some numbers to what people intuitively understand. For example, (prime age) George Clooney, Brad Pitt, and Jason Mimoa are more attractive than a fat neckbeard in his mom's basement. Weirdly, people will admit this is true while denying that SMV is real - as if there's no correlation between what different people find attractive. They're implicitly admitting that neckbeards are unattractive while simu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 07:30 AM
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Also, again, 580 people versus the entire world wide population is not a great data pool. Yes, 580 is a good data pool. It also matches what's found in other studies in other countries, so they corroborate each other - meaning far more than 580 are actually part of the sample. Here's the thing: you can draw significant conclusions from samples of data, even if it's a small fraction of the total population. Before presidential elections, a lot of very accurate predictions can be made on small sam…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 05:27 AM
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Not mention the data pool is so small on comparison to hetero relationships that any divorce will spike the stats accordingly. The dataset seems large enough to draw conclusions. Example: Of the 580 lesbian couples who were married in 2005, 30% were divorced ten years later compared to 18% for heterosexual couples and 15% for gay male couples. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_of_same-sex_couples 30% of 580 marriages would mean 174 divorces among lesbians. A comparible number of heterosexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:55 AM
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That article about lesbian divorce rates was originally published in 1997 - "published May 1, 1997 - last reviewed on June 9, 2016", and gay marriage was only legal since 1989. Maybe they're comparing lifetime divorce rates among heterosexuals against gay/lesbian divorce rates in the past 8 years. Obviously, that's a terrible comparison. But it would explain why it's such an outlier - because they used terrible data for comparison. Edit: Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if the psychology today …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:43 AM
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I hear this "fact" a lot but I can't find any studies supporting the data that lesbians supposedly have high divorce rates. When I type "lesbian divorce rates" into Google, there are plenty of articles about it. The first result is the wikipedia article about it, and they talk about plenty of studies in lots of countries: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_of_same-sex_couples
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:38 AM
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It was not debunked. The first link says "Homicide is a leading cause of death for pregnant women in US". Notice the word "a" and not "the". A leading cause of death can mean anything in the top 10 or top 50 causes of death. The second link says: "Women in the U.S. who are pregnant or who have recently given birth are more likely to be murdered than to die from obstetric causes". Notice the words "more likely to be murdered than to die from obstetric causes". Obstetric causes is a narrow set of …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:46 AM
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An issue with online dating is that most men can’t create a decent profile. I’m in a LTR but my friend will show me her Hinge and so many guys who actually could be good looking have awful profiles. Walk a mile in our shoes. Make a male profile. See for yourself firsthand. Yes, men who create bad profiles are shooting themselves in the foot. But just because a good profile gets better results does NOT mean that a good profile will get good results. Women have tried this experiment, and they were…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:04 AM
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No, homicide is not the leading cause of death for pregnant women. See my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:36 AM
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No, it isn't. People need to stop repeating that fallacious claim. The actual study said that homicide is the leading cause of death among pregnancy related causes of death - which is a small list of causes, including hemorrhages and sepsis. The most common causes of death for people in that age group are car accidents, accidental poisoning, and suicide but those are not considered "pregnancy related" so they are excluded from that list. A CDC study reported that "the overall pregnancy-associate…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:34 AM
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Women typically don’t have hobbies because their survival and reproductive opportunities are all-but-guaranteed at birth. I don't believe that women don't have hobbies. Also, just because someone has easy reproductive opportunities didn't mean there's nothing that needs to be done. I know women who have hobbies of cooking and sewing, which have obvious applications in raising/providing for kids. In other words: even when someone has easy reproductive opportunities, they still need to provide for…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:58 PM
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My mom said if a guy was wearing a suit, was tall and good looking "he will always get his way". It's 100% true. Sorry, your mom was 100% wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:55 PM
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Give me a break. On average, women are not as horny as men. It's like telling men to find a woman as tall as them. Yeah, they exist, but are rare when men are, on average, five inches taller than women. Further, there's plenty of competition for women, regardless of how horny she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:34 PM
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I don't think that's true. Lots of guys can be successful in dating while hating women. I remember watching a video clip about a gigolo. He was this tall, jacked, Italian guy. I was surprised that, towards the end of the video, he started talking about women and he admitted that he hated women. The fact that he's paid top dollar by women and is successful at his job while also hating women tells me that it's not an impediment. Here's the video, if you don't believe me. https://youtu.be/bzRsMU0JF…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:29 AM
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Are we talking about the same Chris Brown that Rhianna went back to after he beat her up?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:45 AM
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Meh. I believe her that she'd be having more sex. But I don't believe that women would be having as much sex as men if slut-shaming and safety concerns disappeared.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:31 PM
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I think if slut shaming and safety issues went away, casual sex would increase moderately, but not dramatically. It would be nowhere on the level of gay male hookup culture. Lesbians and women in liberal places like Scandinavian countries don't have crazy hookup culture. However, casual sex is obviously more common in those countries than in more repressive countries, so culture seems to be playing a role. But I don't believe it would be anywhere close to gay hookup culture - like Grindr, gay ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:26 PM
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Stop insulting people. You're the one who's wrong here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:08 PM
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Stop trolling people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:08 PM
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I don't believe your list of requirements that "men have". Here's my list: attractive, smart, fun to be around. Here's a video on this: https://youtu.be/z0wxSmrs5fs?t=83
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:23 PM
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I'm sure you can find examples of some guy saying he wants X, and another guy wanting Y, and another guy wanting Z. That doesn't mean you can conclude that all/most men require X, Y, and Z.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:17 PM
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https://i.imgur.com/pW5CIyb.gifv
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:10 PM
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It's painfully obvious that a demographic crisis is a real thing. I can predict how many 50 year olds there will be in 2073 based on how many babies are born this year. You act like the math to calculate that is voodoo. It's not magic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 04:02 PM
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Birth rate is determined by the entire society. No. Women are the bottleneck, so women opting out of having children has a much bigger effect than men not having children. For example, the fertility rate of the USSR after World War 2 was between 2.5-3 despite the fact that almost 9 million Russian men were killed in the war. Access to birth control, as well as poor living conditions will negatively affect birth rates. Poor people have the most children.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:58 PM
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This is America, we have the benefit of importing immigrants. This is a total non-solution. Most coutries are suffering their own demographic crisis. Your solution is a non sustainable one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:52 PM
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dads are praised when they bAbYSIt their own kids No they're not. And quoting some case that happened ten years ago, and is now assumed that "every time a man goes outside with his child, he's praised and everyone claps and throws a parade" isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:48 PM
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I know where does this guy get off? Everything needs to be about women all the time. End of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:46 PM
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The main solution is immigration, No it's not. Especially when those foreign countries are experiencing their own demographic crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 03:43 PM
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Of course you're right, OP. But lots of women here will argue with you about it because they either: love to hate men, or the were wounded by the loss of a friendship and are going out of their way to believe the least charitable interpretation of his actions to justify their unhappy emotions. The least charitable interpretation, of course, is that he was a weasel who was faking everything from the very beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:05 AM
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You sound like you don't know the level homophobia that there is among black men. Also, almost 2/3rds of black children are raised by single mothers which I'm sure she doesn't want. Based on what I've seen, I suspect it's even higher for interracial couples. I'm pretty sure that goes against the "a man who wants to take care of you" part. The percentage of White children under 18 who live with both parents almost doubles that of Black children, according to the data. While 74.3 percent of all Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:22 AM
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People try to frame the "fat acceptance" movement as just being about "not being harassed or insulted". But it's clearly more than that. The fact of the matter is that all shapes and sizes of women want people to see them as beautiful. I get that everyone wants to feel attractive. Even the neckbeards want that. But we deny it to men, and tell them they need to have some discipline and get themselves in shape if they want people to treat them like they're attractive. Putting large models in Sport…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 08:14 AM
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Right so it only affects me. It affects you most, but it has a very tiny effect on the larger dating market. Not really a problem when only a small percentage of one gender does it. It becomes a larger problem that does have affects on the opposite gender if a significant minority does it. It's obvious that there's roughly 1 male born for every female, so of course it's going to affect the opposite gender. People write articles about how there's a lack of "economically attractive men" - because …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 08:03 AM
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Yes, that would be the feminist interpretation of arranged marriages. One should be aware of the lens through which they view the world, and how lenses distort things. "ARRANGED marriages lead to happier unions, a groundbreaking study reveals today." https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2217232/arranged-marriages-lead-to-happier-relationships-because-couples-put-more-effort-in-to-make-them-work/ I'm not necessarily advocating for arranged marriages, by the way. Just pointing out that ideologies lead to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 07:49 AM
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Reminds me of a study done about men's porn habits. They said that almost all of the viewers of futa porn are straight men. But, I have seen situations where supposedly straight men weren't really 100% straight. A year ago, a friend of a friend (a guy) came onto me after the bar. Nobody had any idea he wasn't 100% straight. In fact, my friend asked him if he was bisexual a few months earlier, and he got very offended and denied it. I also had a coworker who found out that I had friends who are g…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:30 AM
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Reminds me of this: There was a survey in some magazine (Cosmo?), and something like 2/3rd of women said they wouldn't date a man who has dated men in the past. I've also remember some woman on PPD comment that she'd be worried about dating a bisexual man because he can get sex too easily outside the relationship, and she can't complete with men's sex drive, so it would be threatening.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:20 AM
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If someone actively bars you from meeting anybody to assess the partner's behavior In some cases, it's not as black and white as "you can't hang out with that person". They will also come up with other reasons why you can't hang out with them. Years ago, I had a female friend who started dating a guy. First he lovebombed her. After a while, he was telling her that it wasn't proper for women to hang out with guy friends. It was masked under some kind of traditionalism about gender roles that a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 01:03 AM
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I think you're right that the leverage of overweight and obese men and women are about the same, but it's also true that morbid obesity (aka severe obesity or 40+ BMI) rates are much higher for women (11.5%) than men (6.9%). https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:33 AM
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86 upvotes? I already know which gender has been mass-upvoting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:23 AM
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The problem is a lot of medical professionals don't listen to women when they say they don't want kids regardless of age I've heard of this happening to men, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 12:19 AM
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What does that have to do with anything? The statistics you're citing involve Japanese women either not getting married or having Japanese husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 09:40 PM
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A short summary of this comment section: Men: These are the reasons men are more interested in foreign women: They're not fat. They're not argumentative or have absurdly high standards like Western women. Easier time getting dates and relationships than with Western women. Women: Here's a list of reasons to convince you to keep dating Western women instead of foreign women. Foreign women are just using you: they want your money. They don't love you. They're prostitutes. They just want a green ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 08:51 PM
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Sure, but there are plenty of fit western women as well. It could be that fit Western women are considered "cream of the crop" and they ignore everybody but the hottest guys because their market value is so high. If you're not one of the hottest guys, then those women aren't really options for most guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 05:14 PM
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I’m sure we’ve all seen the video of women talking about how much they’d want their man to earn and some of them saying ridiculous things (like 300k in order to live comfortably). Personally, I just thought that video was a bunch of trustfund babies who were out of touch, not representative of women more generally. If I remember correctly, one of them was a professional model who earned a ton of money, too. She was likely just out of touch even though she was working. 3/4 of mothers are employed…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 06:00 PM
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There's a number of reasons: Years ago I wanted to see what women's experience was on dating apps, so I created a fake profile on Tinder of a woman who was approximately as physically attractive as me. Got 15x as many matches and half of them were sending an opening message. None of the messages were sexual. This made me question the claim that guys are being gross and sexual to women on dating apps and tinder in particular, since it has the reputation of being just a hookup app. I don't doubt t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:54 AM
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Seems like OP recently read "The Secret".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:09 PM
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Yeah, it's weird that OP starts of the argument with the false claim that "Leo continuously dating 18-19 year old women" when he hasn't dated an 18 or 19 year old woman since 1999: https://i.insider.com/630fd1df3e08f700196c4969?width=1000&format=jpeg&auto=webp Although he has dated some 20 year olds, since then.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:28 PM
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how do I say this nicely? passport bros are only successful cause they are rich The post wasn't just about passport bros. Also, there's a lot of women who like accents. An English, Irish, or Australian guy with an accent in the US is automatically going to be seen as more attractive. That's not because of money. They're not any richer than Americans. So, the "it's because they're rich" doesn't explain this particular situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:43 AM
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I have rarely noticed black men do poorly with women in the USA. It varies a lot. I've seen some black guys do well. Generally, the ones who do well fit a stereotype - like a tall, jacked black guy. He typically has to look middle or upper class. Sometimes they're so muscular that you can tell they're on steroids. I've also seen black guys who couldn't get laid to save their life. I've seen black nerds do badly in the dating game. I've also seen a few black comic artists who write incel comics, …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 07:28 PM
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I think you're partially right, but incorrect about some of the details. Sure, a guy from Kenya or China might not do well in the West, but a white guy seems to do well in East Asia. This suggests to me that something more is going on. Maybe it's because status comes into play. A white guy in Asia is higher status in Asia than Asian men are. A Chinese guy in the West is lower status in the West than other men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 07:16 PM
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Whatever. I'm liberal, educated, and also pro-family. I don't think you've looked very hard for white guys like that. I also know other men like that. Makes me think you're looking in San Francisco or something where guys just want to be poly or some BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 07:12 PM
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that he is the best guy within a reasonable distance out of thousands, millions in city’s? The way you frame the question makes it sound like you think 100% of the men within 30 miles are both single and interested in dating her. That's not the correct question at all. By that logic, every single guy could say the same thing about women: what are the odds that a guy's girlfriend is the best woman out of thousands or millions of women within a reasonable distance? It's also very unlikely. And it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 06:47 PM
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Lol. I've listened to tons of his podcasts. He isn't RedPill. He's made comments on his podcast about how (paraphrasing) he's too blue pulled for red pillers, but he's too edgy for blue pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:35 PM
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He's proud of waiting for his faith and so am I... You're assuming that it's seen as something shameful by others. I have never seen anyone but other men actually thinking it's a genuine problem rather than an insult to cut at someone. He said he's never been virgin shamed by men or women. You're religious. There's a massive difference between existing in a religious community where "no sex before marriage" and abstinence-only sex education are advocated and praised and the attitudes of the outs…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:29 PM
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My guess is that there's two modes of doing well with women. One way is to appeal to a woman's forebrain. The forebrain is the part that does the talking when women are asked what they want. This has a ton of requirements and lots of reasons to be turned off by little random things a man does. A woman evaluating a man with her forebrain is going to go on a hundred dates and be rarely impressed by any of them. She'll talk about how men are crappy or "meh". The other is to appeal to the older part…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 08:28 AM
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That's not what he said.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 07:48 AM
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Sorry. Some of them are major losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 07:41 AM
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It seems like this isn't a question that could be best answered by looking at relevant studies. We could talk in circles forever if we're just going to speculate on this subreddit. There are studies you can lookup to get information on this. For example, there was a study done where they had men and women posed in photos or next to someone of the opposite sex. They even varied the attractiveness of the other person. They asked people to evaluate their attractiveness. There were effects for both …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 02:51 AM
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There are some make sex workers. Most of their clients are men, not women. A male prostitute who only serves women tends not to have a lot of business.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 06:15 PM
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Lol. You're missing the context of the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 06:14 PM
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obviously men have a higher sex drive on average than women, are you seriously running into a substantial number of people saying otherwise? Where? There's most definitely men and women on PPD who make the argument that women are just as horny as men. About a month ago, I got in an argument with someone on PPD who claimed that there was no empirical evidence that men are hornier than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 05:44 PM
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You don't understand? It's obvious that the average man is [insert a bunch of below-average traits]. If you don't know this, then you are a sweetsummer child (i.e. you're young and naive).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:06 PM
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Oh, and none of them take any advice on how to dress or write their bios to be more funny and exciting. First, it's not credible to say that you know that 100% of them ignore the advice on r/Bumble. Do you have a crystal ball and use it to follow-up on 100% of their profiles? Second, I've seen bios posted on that subreddit. It is absolutely not true that "To a T they are nerds, weirdo loners or guys trying too hard to be liked/approved of." You sound like you're making up fiction to justify an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 03:56 PM
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I wouldn't say this commerical is sexist mainly because this is kinda the character Rainn Wilson plays That's not a good take. There's a reason it was deemed okay for Rainn Wilson to play that kind of character, just as it was deemed okay for Homer Simpson or the Family Guy dad to be idiots. If there was a female character who played bumbling idiots, they would exclude her from the media. And just because an actor is okay with playing a dumb character doesn't make it okay. If a woman or black pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 07:16 AM
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since it's still men that own and produce most media.... I disagree with that. Once you add together women in media with feminist men, it's women who ultimately own and control most media - even if it's through the hand of men. It's also why women are more likely to be portrayed positively in modern media, and men are more likely to be portrayed as stupid idiots. Your point might've been accurate if we were talking about the 1950s and 1960s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 07:11 AM
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Of course that's true. You know what they say: "a broke man is like a broke hand: it ain't good for nothin." The ideal evolutionary strategy for men is to spread their seed, like gorillas with a harem or bucks with dozens of female deer. As a result, men are attracted a wide variety of women, because that's what's best for spreading ones own genes. Women evolved for both finding a partner with good genes and will also commit - because raising a baby is difficult and death in childhood was common…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 06:09 AM
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The fact that you were dating a man with "one foot in prison" is the problem. The problem isn't men. Women need to stop dating shitheads.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 05:54 AM
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So why are women disproportionately divorcing men? There's are plenty of reasons that a woman would divorce a man that has nothing to do with him being at fault. One thing I've noticed over the years is how unstable relationships with women are. And I'm including platonic relationships. I've seen so many cases of women being weird and not returning multiple text messages, or cutting off former friends - both male and female friends. There's very definitely a subset of women that seem to get over…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 05:51 AM
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Idk where you are, but in a lot of cases, women are hounding men about getting married. Mostly those are shitty men, but isn't that part of the issue? It's an example of women hounding men about getting married and also illustrating the social expectation that a "good man" makes an "honest woman" - i.e. proposes marriage - from her?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 05:41 AM
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Yet most families have a preference for either either sex, or a son. Hell, when China banned more than one kid, there became a genocide of female infants, since so many parents didn't want their only kid to be a girl This happens in third world countries, and there is some preference for sons among the lower class in the US. BUT among middle and your class, that preference doesn't exist. In fact, I had seen a quote that in fertility clinics, where parents can choose the gender of their child, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 05:25 AM
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There’s a reason most of the time it’s the wife who initiates divorce. 15-20 years into marriage she starts to realise that she has sacrificed her comfort and wellbeing for the comfort and wellbeing of her husband and children. The fun thing about these arguments is remembering the fact that lesbians have double the divorce rate of heterosexual couples. Which raises some serious questions if you believe that "men are crappy and that's why divorce rates are so high". As a side note: gay men have …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 09:09 PM
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When you are so used to privelege equality comes off as oppression The great thing about this quote is that you can do anything bad to anyone who's "privileged", and no matter how bad or unfair it is, you can just repeat the phrase "When you are so used to privelege equality comes off as oppression" and, like magic, you automatically win the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 09:01 PM
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Are you saying that feminists were correct about sexism influencing people and MRAs are correct as well, or that feminists were wrong and MRAs are wrong? Or just dunking on MRAs without an effect on the topic at hand?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 08:57 PM
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Judge Judy aside, there's a lot of stereotypes in the media now that are meant to empower people who are less privileged and attack people who are "privileged". Overall, it's kind of shitty, especially when you consider that the same message has different effects on different individuals. Making men or white men seem stupid isn't going to do anything to disempower billionaire white men, but a young white boy (i.e. someone who is not empowered relative to everyone who exists in society, especiall…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 06:49 PM
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My two disagreements about this post are: And men thirst over anything they find remotely fuckable. Key word: fuckable.... Men thirst over anything with boobs or ass, it’s not special About 1/3rd of men are like that. There are plenty of men who aren't, but I can understand that women can't see the difference. From a woman's perspective, they have multiple men trying to fuck them, and it's easy to interpret this as "ALL men trying to fuck them". And I understand that if 1/3rd of men are like tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:09 PM
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But yes, lawyers have a duty of care to represent you competently. It's a divorce lawyers job to win, and that doesn't simply mean "representing you". It means bending the truth as far as possible to win. It's why they're are so many jokes about lawyers being liars. Stuff like "How can you tell when a lawyer is lying? His lips are moving."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:37 PM
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That's true. It's not surprising that someone can find a divorce lawyer saying this kind of stuff, but it can verge on cherry picking if someone listens to only the divorce lawyers who say what they want to hear. It reminded me of an interview I heard with a female divorce lawyer who handled men's side of the divorce. She was very explicitly pro-male and would throw around similar claims, but in defense of men's side. She also did commercials that pissed off a lot of women. She did a TedX talk a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:35 PM
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There was a study done not long about asking about men's and women's preferences in a partner. The results of the study showed that men don't care nearly as much about "sexual purity" or virginity than you'd think. The study showed that men and women were actually fairly similar on their preferences about virginity. I mostly regard the "want a virgin" stuff to be almost exclusively an online phenomena. I'll update my comment with a link if I can find the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:15 PM
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I looked up the data in the GSS. These are the results of people age 18-29. The first thing that stuck out for me was that 55% of the people answered "inapplicable", and 3% answered "no answer". So, 58% of people aren't answering the question. The "inapplicable" answer is also far higher than previous years - which ranged from 4%-40% in years going back to 1990. In 2014, just 6% of people answered "inapplicable". I'm not sure what's going on, or if people are more likely to answer "inapplicable"…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 10:11 PM
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I’m talking about ordinary men.... I’m talking about the men who made Belle Delphine $100K overnight by *buying her bath water.* Yes, ordinary men are spending money on Belle Delphine's bathwater. :roll eyes:
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:20 AM
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Funny, a few months ago I wrote a post about how dating is related to "sales". It was based on the fact that I noticed that the men I knew personally who seem to do best in dating worked in sales - i.e. it was literally their job. I also talked about why being a salesman results in better results. Things like "being able to take tons of rejections and continuing to search for new customers", "being talkative, talking people into things, and (more negatively) manipulating people to make a sale", …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:12 AM
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vast majority of genetic information is due to raping and pillaging. Genghis Khan is responsible for 16 million modern decedents There are 8 billion people on the planet. 16 million is 1/500th of the people on earth. Not exactly the "vast majority". Also, a lot of his descendants aren't directly from him specifically, but from his children, grandchildren, etc had higher-than-normal numbers of children for generations. People in East Asia would boast about being a descendent of Ghengis Khan becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:51 AM
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You’re probably lower than a 5 if you’re having that much trouble You're a woman. I'm not sure that you have good judgement about how successful or unsuccessful men are on dating apps. https://imgur.io/a/IrLnG Also, that's an absolutely terrible scale. Heck, it doesn't even go from 1-10. It goes from 2-9. I guess they think only godlike entities can be "10"s, and that's why there's no photos of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 07:47 AM
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Whether or not they give that advice is a separate question from whether they agree with that advice. If some overweight woman was complaining about her dating life, how many guys would say "lose some weight and get to the gym. Thin girls have better dating lives than fat ones."? A lot of men wouldn't want to be rude, would not want to be accused of "body shaming", might feel like the statement is too obvious to say outloud ("of course everyone knows that already!"), and might not want to bring …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 06:53 AM
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First, no they don't. Second, you subtlety changed "need" into "right". Just because something is a "need" does not only that someone else must provide it for you. If that were the case, then you should be arguing that humans have no needs at all, because the minute you say "humans need food" or "humans need water" or "humans need air" would (according to your thinking) mean that someone must provide it to you for free. It's perfectly logical for someone to say "humans need food" and also "free …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:28 AM
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Swipes mean virtually nothing if they don’t progress into a conversation or a date. Ugly women can get plenty of guys trying to talk to them on dating apps. These aren't "empty" likes that never go anywhere. For example, take a look at this video and notice the number of guys who initiated the conversation: https://youtu.be/dKmvvBelNcw I'll admit that quite a few of these guys only wanted sex, but it's crazy how many messages she got.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:52 AM
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Women just file the paperwork more. No. Lesbians have much higher divorce rates than heterosexual couples. And gay men have lower divorce rates than heterosexual couples. It appears that the more women that are added to a relationship, the more unstable it is and the more likely it will end in divorce. I see the same thing in platonic relationships, too. I have too many female friends who have unstable relationships with their mother or female best friend - including said like "we haven't been t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:05 PM
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Your threw the first stone, and then wonder why people respond in kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 09:20 PM
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Lesbian women report higher rates of orgasm during sexual encounters. Lesbian women also report lower rates of sex when in a relationship and higher rates of dead bedrooms. This suggests to me that "good sex" isn't enough to keep women's interest. Women seen to get bored of sex in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:14 PM
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I don't know what's up with society but apparently it's not acceptable for women to be any different from men. Even when it comes to the most obvious differences like sex drive. What comes next? Height? Body mass? I once heard a quote that utopian ideologies often assume "blank slate" theories of human behavior. The idea that blank slatism is true allows them to imagine all kinds of better futures. Blank-slatism allows for the possibility of unlimited changes to society. If humans are not blank-…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 09:01 PM
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Some of these aren't contradictions or hypocritical, they're just different preferences. It's kind of obvious that men and women don't want the exact same things, but that doesn't make them hypocrites. They seemed like forced attempts to call out men as "hypocrites". f) Men not conventionally attractive themselves, but wants a physically beautiful woman. There's nothing wrong with an unattractive man wanting an attractive women, but if he's not attractive, he'd better be bringing something of va…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:45 AM
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they only have significant issues with birth defects if they are having kids with older mothers... You sound like you're in denial. This is a medical fact. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/44641#1 You still haven't shown that the risks for men and women are the same or comparable. You've only shown that men's risks increase with age. Whenever people talk about the parental-age risks stuff, it always sounds like women don't like the fact that eggs go bad as early as they do, and they wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:27 AM
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91% of men and 92% of women over the age of 60 have been married. So....no, I would say a little less than 10% of people will never get married. Which seems about right. Statistically speaking, you will get married. The rates of marriage have been falling with each generation. It's much worse than that. There was a pew research paper looking at this a number of years ago. The rate of "never married" is increasing with each generation. Here's a chart. By 2030, 25% of 45-54 year olds will be in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 10:29 PM
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Reminds me of a podcast I heard years ago. This girl was talking about how she and her friend were bored and hungry one night, so they posted a flirty message on craigslist saying that they were two girls, they were bored and wanted someone to bring them pizza. They got so many emails from guys. They said that everytime they refreshed their browser, they had more messages. Hundreds of emails from guys willing to buy pizza and drive it over to them. Obviously these guys were going to "get lucky",…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:02 PM
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You're right. I don't know what the people contradicting you are thinking. A business transaction is devoid of emotion, and the purpose is to maximize wealth. A marriage is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 08:28 PM
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Marriage is a business agreement too. In sickness and health. Thats the terms. Literally not the terms of a marriage. There's no law that anybody needs to stay with their spouse in sickness or health.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 08:27 PM
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The usual suspects were to blame. Social media, dating apps, video games. I have yet to hear the scientists address other known causes such as obesity among women and the [covid?] epidemic. I'll add another possibility to the list: there's been a big rise in depression rates in the US (not sure about Australia). Here's a recent article: 3 in 5 girls felt persistently sad and hopeless, a marker for depressive symptoms, in 2021, increasing substantially from 2011. Source More specifically, the 202…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 07:33 AM
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for some reason, (not most but still a lot of) men seem to take dating failures very hard. Probably has a lot to do with men rarely getting compliments or getting approached. If you're a woman, then it's not uncommon to get approached. Getting approached is a compliment. It's validation. So when women get rejected, they can at least reflect on the backlog of times when they've been approached by men for a date. That is a big emotional cushion. In other words, rejection is a lot easier when a per…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:28 PM
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I don't know. There's certainly some women who don't want to date black men, and I've met women who have told me they won't date black men because they don't want families and don't raise they're own children. However, there's also a small percentage of white women who fetishize black men and will throw themselves at black men. I've been in enough bars and clubs to see it happen in real life. Black men are polarizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 05:06 PM
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Your example might be relevant, but it's also just one cherry-picked data point. So, it's not terribly good evidence that OP is right in general. I remember an old Kevin Samuels video where a woman says she's a "10", but she's very obviously below average. Does this mean that all below average women think they're "10"s? No. She's just one very delusional woman. Do most women (and men) rate themselves much higher than they deserve? Maybe. But it's hard to use this one woman as evidence of that. E…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 04:51 PM
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Yeah, this definitely isn't just a dating thing. I think some of this happens because people focus on their strong points and ignore/downplay their weak points in life. The post reminded me of this: Back in 1980, a Swedish psychologist named Ola Svenson conducted a study: In two different sessions, he asked 81 American college students and 80 Swedish graduate students to rank their driving ability among their peers. The results were striking: 88% of the Americans and 77% of the Swedes ranked the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 04:36 PM
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he SHOULD be pretty impressive, not just a guy who exists False dichotomy. Nobody was ever arguing that women should marry a guy for existing. Anyone who says otherwise is trying to play the victim. Anyway, the whole argument smells like a rationalization for entitlement and unrealistic expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 07:41 PM
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When I use my saved tabulation query today, I get different results (your results above). That would imply that the GSS database was updated, which is sort of... interesting. It's possible that your numbers were for an earlier year - like 2020 or something. This is a horrifically bad assumption. I think it's a good assumption. If someone asked "how frequently did you have sex last year?" Then "inapplicable" seems like a perfectly good response if someone is thinking "I didn't have any sex last y…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:37 PM
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Those numbers don't look right to me, so I ran the analysis myself. The numbers I found were worse. Here's the numbers I found when I limited it to 2021, age 18-29, sex=male. Frequency of sex during last year Answer Percentage Inapplicable 42% Do not know/cannot choose 3% Not at all 12% Once or twice 6% Once a month 3% 2-3 times a month 10% Once a week 7% 2-3 times a week 9% 3+ times a week 8% This was based on 354 respondents, and 45% of those respondents choose inapplicable or don't know. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 08:18 AM
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when the song first came out it was heavily criticized for these exact reasons, by feminists specifically. No. It was not criticized for the same reasons. Feminists criticized it for being a "not like other girls" song. Feminists have decided to attack anyone suggesting that one type of woman is better than another type of woman. This is a way for women to avoid criticism and insults. It's basically feminists standing up and saying "new rule! No women are allowed to say anything bad about any ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:57 AM
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Well, yeah, but they obviously weren't criticizing it for the same reason that OP is criticizing it. Women and feminists criticize it because it's a "not like other girls" song. Feminists have decided to attack anything that suggests other women are "less than" another woman. It's a way of preventing criticism of women by other women. The upside of this policy for women: receiving less criticism. The downside: women lose the ability to suggest they are better than any other type of woman. This a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:49 AM
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Well, yeah, but it obviously wasn't being criticized for the same reason that OP is criticizing it. Women and feminists criticize it because it's a "not like other girls" song. Feminists have decided to attack anything that suggests other women are "less than" another woman. It's a way of preventing criticism of women by other women. The upside of this policy for women: receiving less criticism. The downside: women lose the ability to suggest they are better than any other type of woman. This al…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:47 AM
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I disagree. Most of the "teenage dirtbag" song is self-loathing. The music video shows her looking at him and he's confused why she's give a damn about him (starts looking around to see if she's looking at someone else), and then it turns out she was actually looking at her boyfriend. The lyric "she doesn't know what she's missing" is the only lyric that seems slightly positive about himself. The Taylor Swift song is much more agsty about not getting the guy. One thing I will say, though, is tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 05:43 AM
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My comment got removed because it didn't disagree with OP. So here it is again: I agree, although I'd differ on the exact traits that make a man very attractive. There's all the physical attributes, but they're also a whole bunch of social and intellectual traits that make a man attractive. Stuff like being popular, confident, charismatic, funny, a leader, knowing fun/interesting things to do, talented, wealthy, etc. The fact that men need to have a while bunch of non-physical traits, too, just …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:24 AM
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They didn't say that women don't get horny. They said they aren't as horny as men. I agree with their take. There's plenty of evidence that men are hornier. And it makes sense from an evolutionary perspective, too - both for humans and for animals. People like to claim women don't seem as horny because of socialization. Obviously, socialization plays a role, but it's only part of the story. Men are naturally taller and stronger than women. I'm sure that some people would also claim this is diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 08:05 PM
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What studies are those? Because I've seen information that men and women are roughly equal in the percentage of attention they give to attractive members of the opposite sex. I've also seen some studies that show that it's more skewed towards women giving more attention to attractive men. Example: Half of all likes sent to women go to the top 25% of women. Half of all likes sent to men go to the top 15% of men. https://www.factoftheday1.com/p/inequality-of-dating-app-likes-e8c0aaa0cf4e. That was…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 05:08 PM
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Related post from 7 months ago: "Here's an experiment: have the profile of the opposite gender in dating apps." https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/xvdux2/heres_an_experiment_have_the_profile_of_the/ I had tried this years ago (my comment to the other post). The quick summary: I created a fake profile of a woman that I felt was roughly the same level of physical attractiveness as me. I put a boring one-sentence bio. I got 15x the matches using a female profile. Half the matches se…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 04:56 PM
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I don't think they're actors. If they were, I'm sure someone would come out and say it. There was a situation that happened like a couple years ago where the F&F guy invited a fitness influencer named Anna Quinn to come on the show. He then tried to leverage it into sex - dating basically that she needed to sleep with him to be on the show. She went and talked about this online, and how sleezy it was for him to try to leverage his show into sex. (What a "high value man", huh?) She never mentione…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 11:46 PM
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There's been a few cases where some of this was revealed. On multiple occasions, Justin Bieber commented on a girl's Instagram photo and asked her out. Two Examples: https://entertainment.ie/trending/justin-bieber-asked-the-internet-to-track-down-a-mystery-girl-for-him-and-she-aint-happy-357117/ https://www.narcity.com/justin-bieber-tried-to-flirt-with-a-girl-on-instagram-and-her-answer-is-priceless I'm sure it's much more common to send her a DM. These was a while catfish than happened where th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 08:55 PM
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less men are approaching than likely ever before Yup. I don't know what OP is smoking. As far as the US, men are approaching less than they have in the past. (There are some exceptions, like big cities, like New York where lots of black and Hispanic men will approach women in the street - although it's typically catcalling.) But feminists have really managed to make men feel bad about approaching women in general, so there's been a big decline. I've heard stories about men, especially in souther…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 05:04 PM
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Most women I've met in my life would've been happy to settle down very young, myself included, but men had no interest. Oh please. I definitely know guys who would've been happy to settle down early. It's very much the track I was on. Lots of my college friends got married to their girlfriends immediately after college - as in: I was at their weddings months after college graduation. The problem is that the hottest guys want to keep playing the hookup game because they win at that game a lot, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 04:58 PM
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I'm not going to claim that situation never happens, but you're wrong to think that this is the only thing going on. Plenty of 3/10 women think that a 6/10 man is their "looks match" too, and get mad when he ignores her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 04:55 PM
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The average age gap for first marriages is about 2.5 years. But the age gap grows for second and third marriages. Some 20% of men who are newly remarried have a wife who is at least 10 years their junior, and another 18% married a woman who is 6-9 years younger. By comparison, just 5% of newlywed men in their first marriage have a spouse who is 10 years younger, and 10% married a woman who is 6-9 years younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 05:11 PM
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It's easy: if the simp is successful, we retroactively believe that he was genuinely interested in her. If the simp is unsuccessful, we retroactively believe he was just trying to get between her legs. Just World Hypothesis confirmed!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 09:37 PM
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Link doesn't work
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 05:43 AM
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You know that homicide and violent crime rates are down compared to where they were in the 1970s, 80s, and 90s? https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/asher-ucr-2016-0922-1-corrected.png?w=1150 https://www.ojp.gov/feature/youth-violence/overview#youth-violence-statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 05:08 AM
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Yes, it's vilified. There is a belief in modern society that male sexuality is "problematic" and things would be better if male sexuality was more like female sexuality. I wish I could find it again, but there was a great post on another subreddit talking about how feminists labeled male sexuality as bad and predatory, and now lesbians and trans-men (i.e. non cis men who also dated women) were going out of their way to make sure their sexuality was seen as very different than male sexuality towa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 03:02 AM
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You know that the rate of violence among teenagers has gone down since violent videogames came out in the 90s? https://www.ojp.gov/feature/youth-violence/overview#youth-violence-statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 02:23 AM
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The gender divide is becoming more obvious, but it won't lead to the RedPill. Instead, people will talk about "emotionally underdeveloped men", "economically unattractive men", and maybe "male entitlement". They might even talk about the lower educational rates of men. This won't lead to red pill ideas. Feminism is the dominant social theory and men's problems will be interpreted through that lense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 06:24 PM
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Yup. It's a typical mealy-mouthed ChatGPT response. It's like the AI was programmed to give the most inoffensive opinions ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 03:50 PM
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That’s bullshit and you know it. Just look at r/niceguys and you’ll get what I mean. Just because there are thin-skinned assholes who call themselves nice does not contradict the fact that genuine nice guys do badly at dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 03:47 PM
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This as absolutely not true in my experience when I look around at the guys I know. The more genuinely nice a guy is, the more likely he is to be single. This reminds me of a study I saw years ago. People looked at photographs of men and tried to guess their success in dating. It turned out that people could have reasonable success in guessing how good a man's dating life was, just by looking at photographs. The trait they needed to look for was a "wolfish smile" (aka a predatory smile). Another…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 03:45 PM
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No true Scotsman
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 03:36 PM
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It feels like I have to post the article on "lesbian bed death" every week on PPD. Lesbian bed death is the concept that lesbian couples in committed relationships have less sex than any other type of couple the longer the relationship lasts, and generally experience less sexual intimacy as a consequence.... Only about one-third of lesbians in relationships of 2 years or longer had sex once a week or more; 47% of lesbians in long-term relationships had sex once a month or less, and among heteros…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 07:06 AM
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It's unclear from your comment whether those were the minimum standard that he would date, or merely women that he found attractive. He might not have even understood what you were asking. Heck, if someone asked me examples of women I think are attractive, my mind might go to mentioning drop-dead beautiful celebrities because they are an easy point of reference. That doesn't mean I'd hold out for women who look like them. None of my past girlfriends look like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:30 AM
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No. The whole idea that market is the true evaluator of someone's value has a grain of truth, but it's also flawed. I'm tempted to write a while rebuttal of the "market is the only thing that determines value" idea, but it's too late at night right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:19 AM
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Nah. I've seen too many screwed up people with too many kids. You'd have to be very confused about the world to think that human are evolving to something better. The most reproductively successful people are: slightly below average intelligence and are high school dropouts. Here's a chart: https://cdn.theatlantic.com/media/mt/hua_hsu/cohenfertility2.jpg The traits that lead to having more kids are: low education, lower than average intelligence, highly emotional (get lots of people to believe y…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 06:02 AM
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Let's get a look at the winners in this game of human evolution: https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2018-01/15/19/asset/buzzfeed-prod-fastlane-01/sub-buzz-7152-1516061975-9.png 13 kids. They're obviously much more evolutionarily successful than everybody. They also chained up their children. But they are undeniably evolutionarily superior. 13 kids is proof of this fact! https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/amberjamieson/13-siblings-were-held-captive-by-their-parents
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:13 PM
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"It's okay to favor your granddaughters over your grandsons because grandpa had it better than grandma." /s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 05:45 PM
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Most men had it in the 1780's ( the male population of the U.S. was mostly white men). You think all white men had the right to vote? The only people allowed to vote originally were land owning white men. The 1828 presidential election was the first in which non-property-holding white males could vote in the vast majority of states. The last state to abolish property qualification was North Carolina in 1856. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_voting_rights_in_the_United_States. In other…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 05:34 PM
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Some women got the vote well before 1920. It's a myth that all women couldn't vote until 1920. Women were given the right to vote in Wyoming as early as 1869. Quite a few states gave women the right to vote before 1920. But 1920 is when a federal amendment passed to give all women in the US the right to vote. It's called "universal" suffrage because have the right to vote in all states, instead of allowing each state to decide for themselves whether women could vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 05:29 PM
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Destiny has raised this point, too. Basically, caring about men's issues is considered questionable to the left because the left is preoccupied with the problems of women and people of color. Caring about men's problems is roughly the equivalent of donating money so rich kids can go to summer camp instead of providing food for the poor. Yeah, technically, it's a "good thing", but why not spend time on "real issues that are worse". As a result, the left is in no position to compete against the ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 07:20 AM
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the 29 year old was visibly upset and she told us the only thing she cares about is having a baby, it could be any men willing to commit, doesn't have to be handsome, doesn't have to be rich, and she has been searching for someone reliable for years now. So this 10/10 intelligent and classy girl could not find a guy who's only qualities are loyal and can produce an offsrping, so imagine how much harder it could be for an average or unattractive girl. There's no way that story is true, or she's l…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 04:27 AM
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Lancaster
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:43 PM
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Also read up on white supremacy culture. Here’s a link https://www.thc.texas.gov/public/upload/preserve/museums/files/White_Supremacy_Culture.pdf Jesus. What a ridiculous document. They basically try to lump a bunch of bad attributes under "white supremacy". "perfectionism" is considered "white supremacy"? (I have to wonder what the author thinks when perfectionism exists in other cultures - that it's evidence of "white supremacy"? Ha ha) I think whoever wrote that document might have a mental i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:41 PM
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I punched your username into a reddit user analyser and it listed your city. Punched your city into Google and looked up the demographics: "For every 100 females 18 and over, there were 88.6 males." Damn. That is a very uncommon gender distribution which really favors men. On average, there are 105 men for every 100 women in the US, but your city has 88 men for every 100 women. That's why you think it's easy getting dates: there's lots of single women without a man where you live. It's far more …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 12:16 AM
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I hope you're writing that sarcastically. Because the idea that women would value men for merely existing in an antipatriarchal culture is absurd. That's like Trump-level bullshitery.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:55 PM
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I 100% agree with you, OP. Men in the West are generally the best option for women. (And by "the West", I mostly mean America, Canada, and Western Europe.) I've also seen way too much relationship BS with foreign men that my female friends have dated or married. Cheating is not uncommon, and sometimes they think it's okay for men to cheat but not women. One guy my friend married started telling her it wasn't okay for her to have male friends, so she cut all of us off. Or expecting a traditional …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:31 PM
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I don't know about that. From what I've seen with women dating foreign men, either: those men are playing a role to get into their pants, or if it's a long term relationship, those men become more controlling over time, sometimes waiting until a year into the relationship or after marriage to become more controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:09 PM
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Regardless of whether 80% of Western men are egalitarian, or 80% of men on PPD are egalitarian, or whether or helps them. The fact of the matter is that it's possible that egalitarian men are not liked by women (generally speaking), so of course being egalitarian doesn't help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 10:05 PM
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Trump was our shot at bringing back manufacturing jobs? Trump was always making empty promises. He's done that throughout his entire career as a businessman. Constant empty promises is how he gets people to do things for him and then not uphold his end of the bargain. Examples: https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/columnists/mike-kelly/2020/01/24/donald-trump-still-owes-money-to-contractors-who-built-taj-mahal-atlantic-city/4547037002/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna747756 https://www.re…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:17 AM
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They're also some of the most chronically single guys that I know. This makes it sound like men need a sex cookie to advocate for women's rights. Not sure how you came to that conclusion. He's not even doing it for dating success; these are things he believes in. You're twisting "man wants relationship but doesn't get one" into "man just wants sex" when it's convenient to the argument. My point is this: there are guys who are the "good men" that are supposedly absent in today's world, and theore…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:01 AM
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Drug/alcohol abuse, narcissism, domestic violence, 'manosphere' behavior, etc are rampant among men... They think a woman having an Instagram account and not wanting to sUbMiT makes her as unviable a partner as an unemployed gamer with a DV charge I don't believe that narrative at all. I know too many men who don't fall into any of those categories who are still chronically single. And some of those things aren't even true of what a typical man wants - even though they seem like popular ideas wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 02:37 AM
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Nah. I have been much more successful in school, career and income than the large majority of women. There's also plenty of evidence that women want a man who's objectively better than them in all kinds of ways - not just the things I listed. This causes all kinds of problems when women's achievement increases. I've heard this referred to as the "tall girl problem" - i.e. a woman wants someone taller than her, so a tall woman has extra problems finding a date. The same idea, but applied to lots …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 02:30 AM
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How do you make sure a man doesn't have 20 accounts so he can get 20 swipes You could tie it to their phone number. That's what tinder does. You occasionally send a code to their phone number and they have to verify. Also, you could track the photos used and make sure the same photos aren't used in another profile. People could get around it by never reusing photos, but it would be a hassle.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 09:41 PM
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Yeah, I don't believe those numbers at all. I've also looked online and I've seen tons of different estimates. Generally the ratios were closer like 5+ years ago, and the ratios got worse as time went on. There's also the question of the ratio of men and women who have ever signed up for the app, versus active users. I know a lot of women who got on apps for like 2 weeks or a few months and then left, but I know a lot more men who were on the apps long term. In those cases, you can have a 50/50 …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:42 PM
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Honestly, I think the postal service and DMV are fine. Last time I was at the DMV, it was fast and efficient. On my last trip to the dentist, I waited longer in the waiting room of the dentist office (a for-profit business) than I did at the DMV (a government run office). Let's stop pretending like a bunch of wealthy businessmen aren't screwing up the world. They often do a crap job and their goal is to establish monopolies so they can suck all the money out of your pocket. The more money they c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:24 PM
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To be honest, sometimes think of writing a new dating app. (I make software and apps.) Personally, if I did this, I wouldn't follow this idea of 50 and 1 like per day, but I think limiting the number of swipes for men and women would be useful. I also wouldn't make it open source and it wouldn't be free - because there's way too much money and effort that goes into creating something like this, running servers, marketing, handling customer service, and handling kicking people/bots off the app fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:17 PM
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I agree. It seldom works out. The women don't become attracted to you because you "know your value", as gymbro suggests. Rather, you simply lose an opportunity with her. In many cases, I got tired of doing the work, so it was fine to walk away. I was better off single than chasing that BS. Those women didn't hit me up trying to get me back, but it's better than the alternative of the work not being worth the pay. The problem is that we're trying to negotiate with someone who has more power than …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:42 AM
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you choose the poorest and most underdeveloped places known for extreme sex trafficking (Philippines) this is very intentional and disgusting I'm unclear on the "you" in this statement. There's a whole genre of old women going to Africa and the Caribbean for sex/romance with younger (and very poor) men. It's so common that there are terms for it. When I was visiting the Dominican Republic with friends, I discovered that they use the term "Sanky Panky". A sanky-panky or sanky is a male sex worker…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 05:25 AM
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Lol. I've seen many relationships and marriages between white women and foreign men fail when those guys turned out to be controlling over how women are supposed to behave. Often they wait until several years in to fully extend their controlling behavior. I've seen it many times with Middle Eastern and Latino men. For example, one of my female friends married a latino guy. He started telling her it was improper for her to have male friends - so she cut all of us off, even though most of her frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 04:57 AM
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According to the 2021 GSS data from the GSS Data Explorer, You provided no information on how to reproduce those statistics for anyone wanting to verify the data.. I did a search on the GSS data, and it came up with far higher numbers for "haven't had sex in the past year", but as far as I could tell, it wasn't limited to 18-29 year olds. Here was my search: https://gssdataexplorer.norc.org/variables/5057/vshow In 2021, out of 2158 responses, 633 (29.3%) said they had no sex in the last year and…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:53 AM
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Kevin Samuels was certainly blunt. And in some cases, he (rightly) pointed out that some of the women on his show were pretty delusional. However, I think he would go too far, and he also had some bad takes. I remember one caller saying that she wanted to be a SAHM to four kids. She lived in Ohio. Kevin told her that a guy would need to earn something like $400K/year to support a SAHM with four kids. He was very clearly wrong about that, especially in Ohio. It felt like he was using absurdly big…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 07:21 AM
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Any opinions on him?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 02:26 AM
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Was going to say that I'm surprised it's be difficult in college because most colleges are 60% women, but it makes more sense if your college is 67% male.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 02:11 AM
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No, you're right. She's confused by the question being asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:34 AM
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Yes. He's making the point that you need to use the mean in this case, not the average. And don't get confused by the fact that OP used the word "average" in the post when they clearly mean "the life of a mid tier guy". If I lived in a neighborhood with 1 billionaire and 999 homeless people, and someone asked what the wealth of the average guy in my neighborhood was, it would be incorrect to say that the average guy in my neighborhood has a million dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:34 AM
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it takes about 1 to 3 months of casual dating to find another looks-matched girlfriend. What? 1 to 3 months? That sounds absurdly quick. I thought you were going to say 1 to 3 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 01:23 AM
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Here's a list of 50 more icks - jump to 0:14 https://twitter.com/andymilonakis/status/1630489563541155841
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 06:05 PM
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he recommends and even coaches guys in a focused way to "talk with your hands". Clearly, it works... otherwise... he'd BE OUT OF BUSINESS! No he wouldn't. Dating coaches only need to convince men that he can help them in their dating lives. He doesn't actually need to actually help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 05:58 PM
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"post-nut clarity" which they attempt to paint as logical I don't think that men paint "post nut clarity" as logical. It suggests that they were irrational because they were horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 05:55 PM
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If you read The Charisma Myth it's basically a dictionary of icks and how to avoid them That's not true. I've read that book. There's a podcast I sometimes listen to. It's done by Christina P (who's a comedian and wife of Tom Segura). He has an ongoing segment on the podcast called "vag dryers", which are basically women calling in to talk about their "icks". There are SOOOO many of them. Admittedly, not all women agree on these "icks" but it makes you realize how totally random so many of them …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 05:40 PM
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I generally agree with the direction of the post, but it is exaggerated. For example: Women can have a body count that rivals porn star actressses and still be considered a good catch. I think a high sexual partner count would hurt her dating life. Guys don't want to date the town bicycle, especially if other guys see her as the town bicycle. Women can be single moms with multiple kids born out of wedlock and still bounce from one decent man after the next. Nah. It would still hurt her chances f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:38 AM
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I'm not sure what you're even arguing here. He's saying that women talk about men's dating problems the same way that Republicans talk about poor people's economic problems or people struggling in the job market. The first case is about dating. The second case is about economics. Somehow you combined to two concepts into "dating republican women", and then trying to turn that into "you don't respect her". He's also saying that their opinion towards women's dating problems is treated much more ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:58 PM
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I mean, it sort of happens on a much smaller scale. Not to that degree. But if you look at the number of childless men and women, there are more men who are childless. Conversely, men are more likely to have more children than women (i.e. if you counted up the number of men with 4 or more children, it's higher than the number of women with 4 or more children). This is because men are more likely to have multiple families (not necessarily at the same time). For example, growing up, I knew a guy w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:38 PM
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That's why I think the stigma about CF women being bitter girlbosses is bad because there's women like me who have genuine mental illness and reproducing would be dangerous for them and the child. There's tons of kids being abused in foster care because mentally ill women who were incapable of caring for a child decided to get knocked up. I think most people would make an exception for people who have genetic issues or mental illness. When people criticize CF, the criticism is meant for the gene…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 08:23 PM
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I find it disturbing that women in this thread are admitting that they still do most of the work in their relationship and that their husbands "help out" occasionally. Selection bias. Happy people are far less likely to leave a comment. Nothing gets people to engage/comment more than being angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:51 AM
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The fact that something is subjective doesn't mean it's wrong or nonsensical. It doesn't matter if something isn't "standardized" or as objective as height and weight. I think we can easily come up with examples of weird pairings between men and women where people would say "why is he with her?" or "why is she with him?" The fact that we can even ask such a question requires relying on subjective judgements of those two people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 02:42 AM
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The man is the one doing the hiring. He chooses which candidate he wants to invite for an interview. You could just as easily claim that men are the applicants, because they get to choose which companies to apply to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 01:44 AM
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This comment is a good summary of the complaints my friend make. That was an interesting read. It's similar to things my lesbian friends have said. I remember one lesbian friend (who's more masculine) complaining about how this woman she was dating for months always expected her to pay, and never offered to pay. Another lesbian friend complained about women spending the whole date complaining about their ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:46 PM
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each person "pays" with their time, attention, and energy at minimum since you're actively with the other person. I'm pretty sure he's arguing that the "price" is higher when dating Western women than it is when dating foreign women. In that sense, you're not in agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:38 PM
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I generally dislike this kind of argument. First, things aren't as bad as people say they are. Sure, some guys have problems with this, but I'm doubtful it's as widespread as people claim. Second, there's the problem of men's dating issues and what women want. If women aren't attracted to emotional men, then you're both damaging men's dating lives (and by extension their emotional lives), and it's only going to make men more frustrated to see less emotional men being successful in dating. Given …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:37 PM
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However, the majority of people that are telling boys to ‘man up’ and ‘only girls cry’ are fathers Women aren't going to use those words because it would be insulting themselves. That doesn't mean that women don't promote it in other ways, like being turned off when men don't behave like "they should". https://youtube.com/watch?v=no7FuVwcn6w&feature=youtu.be&t=40
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:47 PM
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I heard a quote on a podcast recently (paraphrasing): "Some people are 'sparky'. It doesn't mean they're a good partner. They just spark attraction in a lot of different people." The converse is also true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:14 PM
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Nah. Both Mikhaila Peterson and Andrew Tate denied that anything happened between them. See my comment with sources here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/125ljxm/comment/je8mwj2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:23 AM
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Or you have it occur on Instagram. That's how Tate slept with Jordan Peterson 's daughter, DM over insta and FLEW her over. I looked it up, and here's what one article said: Speaking about meeting the [Andrew Tate] in Romania, she clarifies, “Nothing happened.” As she recalls, Tate initially invited her to Romania in 2018, where they took a tour of a castle. According to Mikhaila, she and Tate went out for a drive in one of the Top G’s many supercars, met some monks, and had a few drinks. Simila…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:22 AM
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Really? Lots of places have vegetarian options, but not vegan.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 08:39 PM
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Well, those are the types of people I see on daily basis Those are the type of people you see on a daily basis? Or the average of the type of people you see on a daily basis? There's a big difference. In other words, I see attractive people on a daily basis, but I wouldn't claim they are the average person I see on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 08:32 PM
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Nah. She's not an average 40 year old. She's got a little bit of weight on her, which is fairly accurate. But her face is better than the average 40 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 08:27 PM
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Men are homosocial, they want the approval of their peers more than they care about the women they hurt. I can only speak for myself, but I don't know that I've ever mentioned that I have slept with a woman. I just don't care about talking about it. I can't help but wonder if maybe women assume men talk about who they sleep with because that's what women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:36 AM
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Here's a graph from the OKCupid blog, indicating the number of messages received by men and women by percentile: https://i.redd.it/ihfq1zbowr861.jpg And here's another experiment: https://www.zdnet.com/article/ten-fake-profiles-one-okcupid-experiment-okcupid-on-trial/ the chart of "messages received" in four months is here: https://www.zdnet.com/a/img/resize/0df63826b54c81ecb2ac4f3826767450cd767a89/2014/10/03/2f3d3638-4b1e-11e4-b6a0-d4ae52e95e57/okcupidfake.jpeg?auto=webp&width=1280 It's pretty …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:31 AM
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Not sure what the biological reason is. But, I'd guess men are more outspoken about their dislike of women because: men are put into the role of "pursuer" and therefore are constantly evaluating women all day everyday otherwise their dating lives suffer, and men also benefit from being outspoken (being quiet is a major dating hurdle). The two things combined can lead to cruelty. I'd also imagine that women are less outspoken or cruel to men's faces because most women aren't biologically designed…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:11 AM
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as for the video you shared - so many men blind swipe She got lots of messages. This shows that there's plenty of guys who looked at her profile and put in the effort of messaging her - i.e. not simply a case of blind swipes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 08:53 PM
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I never argued they were great profiles. My argument is merely that they aren't trash profiles, and they deserve more than zero likes. It's a counterargument to the idea that 'the only reason guys are doing badly on dating apps is because they have trash profiles'. Also, there's a lot of psychoanalysis going on in your comment. And by psychoanalysis, I mean assumptions based on small bits of data. I do understand that many women do that, but it's not healthy or accurate. Anyone can look at a guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 08:51 PM
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She's trying to milk that sweet sweet "I'm a victim" juice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 05:37 PM
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There's a major problem with your theory. You say men have bad dating profiles, and then conclude that this is the reason men don't have success on dating apps. Here's the problem: even guys with good dating profiles have problems on dating apps. So, there are other problems involved here. The guys with bad profiles have two problems (not one) - a bad dating profile and the deck being stacked against them. I've looked at the swipe right rate of lesbian women and straight women. Lesbian women swi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 05:33 PM
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Nah. You as a job applicant can get a job anywhere. As a job applicant, you can APPLY anywhere, but you can't get a job anywhere. Another analogy would be the housing market. Buyers look at houses. Sellers are trying to sell their house. Who has more power? Does the buyer have the power because they choose what houses to look at? It depends on a lot of factors - sometimes it's a buyer's market and sometimes it's a seller's market. Saying "the buyer always has more power" is very incorrect. If th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 07:29 AM
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I dunno. I think that anarchists are generally left-wing. ACAB and "kill cops" is very much a far left thing to say. It seems like right-wingers are simultaneously skeptical about government (and especially taxes) and talk about small government, but they are also very much the "law and order" party which strongly supports cops and heavy punishment for crime. It's the right-wingers who are saying stuff like "that person would've been fine if they just did what the cop told them to do", which is …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 05:49 AM
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For some reason, the internet just loves to pretend that attraction to looks is primarily a male trait. I think we all know the reason for that: admitting someone is attracted to looks is deemed shallow. That's why men are labelled "shallow". Men are described with all kinds of negative traits (men are trash, pigs, dogs, shallow, dangerous, etc), and men just shrug and say it's true. Women are still evading the label, and the associated criticism, by pretending it isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 05:38 AM
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It's worth pointing out that this same thing happens with women with feminism and FDS. Some of the women who post/comment on this subreddit are doing the same thing. The whole "men will leave you as soon as you get sick" argument, or "men are dangerous and kill women", or the "he just wants a bang-maid" stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 06:20 PM
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I've listened to it, but the creator of behind the bastards is most definitely inserting some of his own personal views into the podcast. I got tired of him shit-talking men. He's most definitely inserting left-wing opinions that aren't backed by facts. (I'm not saying that the right wing is better. In fact, I'd say the right wing is even worse, but I don't listen to them, either )
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 06:14 PM
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I don't think any of them have any success with women unless they're paying for pussy, no cap. They also tried to pressure guests into sleeping with them as a condition for being on their show: https://youtu.be/8AjnbJC99Fo
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:39 AM
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Yeah. And then there was that while thing where he asked a woman to be on his podcast. I think she was a fitness influencer or something. Then he told her that she had to sleep with him if she wanted to be on the podcast. Dude pretends to be some "alpha" male who knows how to get women, but then uses his platform to get women to sleep with him or else he reverses his invitation. Here's the video with screenshots of their conversation: https://youtu.be/8AjnbJC99Fo
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:32 AM
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Yes, dating is unnecessarily difficult. I've never been married, but I've had a number of girlfriends over the years, as well as hookups. Some of these girlfriends were women that I eventually realized I wasn't that into, for various reasons. For example, one girlfriend was incredibly insecure and I didn't enjoy having to frequently soothe her emotions when she assumed things or misunderstood things. Dating apps are mostly a waste of time. Difficult to get matches, and I have to constantly carry…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 04:40 AM
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Your post reminded me of something I heard a radio personality said. She said that when she met her ex-husband, she wasn't interested in him at all until he mentioned that he was an Orthopedic surgeon. After he said that, she took a lot more interest in him - and eventually married him. Admittedly, this radio personality also seems very shallow, so beware of generalizing. But it was interesting that she admitted it on the radio. The radio personality I'm talking about is Jamie White. https://en.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:45 PM
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Maybe online dating was better five or ten years ago. It's a sausage fest now. Also, marriage rates have been declining significantly over the past ten or twenty years. More and more people are falling into the "never married" category. Each generation's percentage of "never married" increases compared to the previous generation: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2014/09/24/record-share-of-americans-have-never-married/st-2014-09-24-never-married-08/ This graph is already ten years old, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 07:56 PM
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When you said your perfect man exists, he said his perfect woman (Dua Lipa) exists. The implication is that he won't get his perfect woman, even though she actually exists, he won't be able to date her (because Dua Lipa is obviously going to date someone "better" than him). So he's suggesting that you likely can't get your perfect man, even if he exists - because he's going to date someone else. Tldr: just because your perfect man/woman exists doesn't mean you can get them, because those people …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 06:54 PM
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you shouldn’t stay with someone your not 100% with ... We all know nobody is 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 04:42 AM
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Lol. Foreign men are typically more controlling and more conservative than Western men are. I've heard plenty of stories about Latino or Muslim men controlling women - and I heard it from the women who dated or married them. One female friend of mine married a Latino guy and he made her stop hanging out with any of her guy friends and also got really angry when she didn't have dinner made for him, even though she worked a full time job like he did. They're divorced now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 02:00 AM
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There's a difference between "couldn't open a bank account" and "it is federal law that women be allowed to open a bank account". When it's not a law, it was up to the bank whether they would allow women to get bank accounts - some of them allowed it, and some denied it. Also, it was the 1960s for bank accounts, and 1974 for credit cards. Although it was not yet full rights to commercial banking services, in 1862 California made the first step towards achieving full rights to banking services fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 07:26 AM
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Yeah, as long as you're including women over 70 years old in your count. Kind of worthless to include 70+ year-old women in the "dating pool" we're talking about, though. There are 105 boys born for every 100 girls. In every age group below 50 years-old, there are more men than women. Source: https://www.populationpyramid.net/united-states-of-america/2020/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 07:15 AM
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Like the author of "How Stella Got her Groove Back"? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 12:41 AM
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You should get that cough looked at.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 12:37 AM
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Most women had choices about who they married and pre marital sex wasn't that uncommon either (obviously it was much more dangerous than today for several reasons). While women were not uncommonly "traded" as property this was not the majority of women. I agree with this. I don't believe that women were traded as property like people like to say - and the narrative is often advanced by feminists as a way to increase support for feminism (e.g. "see what life was like before feminism; you need to …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 09:56 PM
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This argument comes up repeatedly on PPD. Somebody needs to pin a rebuttal to this claim. First, just because you've seen women act aggressively or obviously towards a guy didn't mean all women do. Imagine if ten girls like a guy. One of them actually makes it obvious that she likes him. Then you concluded that "well, I saw a woman make it very obvious that she liked that guy, therefore all women make it obvious". The flaw in that thinking is obvious. It's also more common for young woman to hid…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 09:59 PM
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You didn't attempt to change the view of OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 09:39 PM
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A study by RAINN (the rape, abuse, and incest national network) which is an anti-sexual abuse organization, came out with some statistics that almost all sexual abuse on college campuses are done by a small number of men. If one psychopath abuses 10 or 100 women, then you can have a situation where lots of women experience sexual abuse, but few men are doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 04:13 AM
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I'm taking about on social media and in the news media. People are too polite to say that men are the cause of the world's problems to people's faces. And they don't say it as "“men are to be blamed for everything”. Rather, it's "the patriarchy is to blame" or "men could change these things if they wanted to because men have most of the power".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 04:07 AM
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Lol. I figured someone would make that argument. Go back in my post history. I recently made a comment bashing Trump after someone asked why people keep backing him: Trump is their savior, their Superman, who is supposed to fix all the "problems" that conservatives have with modern America. Jobs back in the US. Woketivism, transgenderism, and LGBT destroyed. Abortion illegal. Mouthy liberals put in their place. Taxes lowered. Corruption in Washington fixed. He was supposed to be their Superman w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 04:03 AM
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Dating women is great when you really like her and she likes you and she makes an effort. I've had a few situations like that in the past, but it's very rare. Dating is usually awful, though because women are flakey and make little effort and make the whole dating process complicated. It feels like most women aren't that interested in dating a guy unless he's better than her. As a guy, it feels like you have to either get lucky with a great girl, date down, or resign yourself to being single. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:56 AM
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