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For me it is also a matter of personal beliefs. If you see marriage as a sacrament and you really believe that your love is bound "in Heaven and Earth", well, it will be difficult to divorce. But it would be also difficult to cohabitate beforehand. If Marriage is only a permanent contract after a trial period, well, it will be torn apart more easily if things go wrong (not necessarily a bad thing).
/r/RedPillWomen19/10/22 10:06 AM
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well, you may get a point in a society where women do not study or have a career. In the past the only "sane" outlet for a woman was marriage or religion. But not it is not so. A woman in her early 20s might have still years ahead to follow her education and career. Usually, those women stay in a committed relationship that might end in marriage, but they do not marry until late 20s. If you are willing to wait... it might be an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 08:27 PM
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The problem in my view is that you are conflating sex in a serious relationship with sex outside a serious relationship. By serious I intend with the aim of marriage, monogamous, stable. I exclude all other arrangements like FWB, poly, otherwise hook ups, "open" or casual sex, and of course sex work, porn filming, etc. Sure, maybe 70% of men have had sex but what percentage of these men are married or engaged to be married? You are telling 53, but in the age range 25/54 which is a bit too high, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 03:15 PM
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you can trust a woman on many levels, virginity is only an aspect of her personality, not even the most important. look for integrity and moral values. Picture that girl in ten years from now, many things change, her virginity is only an attribute of a moment. Her personality will be there forever
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:28 PM
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now what? maybe accept that some of the rules of courtship and wedding in former times were especially for the benefit of men and women, both of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 10:05 AM
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When the power dynamics are clearly unbalanced your statement is incorrect imho. Yes, of course, IF men could access freely sex as much as easily as women the whole n-count problem would be not-existent. Unfortunately, that is not the case. Usually, men value more women who do not exploit this power, not because they are less clean or pure... but because exploiting some intimate act as sex... could be felt as gross. Not all people are able to separate sex from love. A high n-count woman necessar…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 08:04 PM
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based on my observations, all my female friends who married in their early 30s where serially monogamous beforehand with an average of only 2-3 boyfriends, no cheating, no alcohol, no drugs. Usually, they lost their virginity around 17-20 years but in the context of a love story, not a ONS. And I knew them since high school, they did not have any reason to lie to me. Granted. I graduated in a STEM university in the 90s, my POV is rather limited, and I knew that outside of that there is a world o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 04:55 AM
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think in this way: a woman who rejects you is a woman who saves you from more serious damages: cheating, arguments, and, God forbid, divorce. After a lot of experience I have come to the conclusion that the hundreds of girls who have rejected me between 15 and 23 (when I first had a "yes") did actually teach me something: the game is not worth your time. When the right moment come a girl will know at your door. And, if not, it's for the better of you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 11:48 AM
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Girls, before downvoting and be angry please consider this simple point of view. A failed marriage for a man ruins entirely his life (lose of home, kids, money and sometimes also false accusations of domestic violence). And this is a fact for all western societies. Men are obsessing with a simple number like the body count because there are statistics that prove that usually women who are faithful in marriage are usually with a low body count. Or, better, they have certain values who, usually, r…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 04:40 AM
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a girl with in her past only monogamous relationships (no cheating, no casual sex, no strange things like group sex, porn, fetish) is practically a virgin. it's not important if a penis (or several penises) have entered inside her, but how they have entered. I call her a "transactional" virgin, which is a recursive definition. A girl/boy is a transactional virgin if: 1) is a virgin 2) has had only sex with other transactional virgins. ​ A gir/boy loses her/his status of transactional virgin if h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 06:59 AM
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I dated a virgin, I waited for six months till I had sex with her and I did not pressure her to do it, she decided it. I was 25 at the time (with only one previous experience) and she was 19. I really wanted to marry her but for several reasons the relationship ended 3 years later before marriage. I think however that I have not "used" her in any way, I think that a girl, in a monogamous, long relationship, does not lose any of her purity. Casual sex is in some way more dangerous for me, because…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:17 AM
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well, I tend to disagree a little. Do not forget that we are not fully "primates", we have consciousness and the sexual desire can be, somewhat, driven and educated. I have a teenage daughter, I too have noticed that "by default" her brain is attracted to bad boys, but this can be taught somewhat, if you have a good relationship with her. You can talk, you can discuss possible outcomes, there are books, tv series. Bad boys in fiction are different from bad boys in reality... and having a crush f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 06:57 AM
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Beatrice was not unique, in that period Italian poets did chose a woman to which they wrote poems. Beatrice for Dante, Laura for Petrarca, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 06:17 PM
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you forget the fact that age changes drastically this fact. Maybe between 18 and 22 there is this dichotomy, but in the second adolescence, when for example a woman enters again the dating market after a divorce, the roles usually flip. The woman is looking for a LTR and usually is not any more interested in being a MILF for horny boys or a nurse for elders. Sure, there might be a phase of this kind to assess again her sexual value, in that case she is willing to make all wait until she find the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 07:59 AM
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No, they don't want toxic men, they want men who treat them as entire human beings, flesh and soul. They want boys that make them laugh, with a bit of thrill of unknown. Especially here in Italy the "nice guy" is too afraid to touch her girlfriend based on all the information about Dante and Beatrice, the "angelic woman" and Dulcinea and Quixote. Just one memory from my teen years. I was at a time a nice, shy, introverted guy with feelings to be a girl, late 80s. We were boys and girls scouts in…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 04:45 AM
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some points to consider: It is very different (from legal and emotional POV) to cheat inside a marriage or inside a normal relationship. In my experience gender behaviors change a lot, because with marriage we have a legal contract where, usually, man get the shorter stick in exchange for faithfulness and constant, predictable sex. Plus, as other have said, to have the certainty of paternity, hence the possessive traits of a husband. When a girlfriend cheats, she can do it because of immaturity …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 04:54 AM
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Not exactly. Biology is simple for females and males. Sex is reproduction. if a woman wants to have sex in her most fertile years with Chad her "lizard brain" tells her that Chad's genes are superior to "mr. Right" that in that same period is studying in a STEM degree, sexless and loveless. When "mr Right" has a degree and a job and he becomes of value she might choose him, but her body, at least theoretically, has already decided who she wanted children from
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:00 AM
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I assume this is a Long Distance Relationship. Does he have at least a clue of your discomfort? If you are sure that he would not push you to stay probably the best should be to talk the last day, have a last dinner together in a cozy restaurant... but the last night probably I would book an hotel and leave alone from there telling that you prefer not to be taken to the airport-station. Do not spend the last night together, after you have talked to him, to avoid any chance of "second thought" Ge…
/r/RedPillWomen21/08/22 08:42 PM
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we don't love only for reproducing. your reasoning is valid only for animals, but we have developed complex feelings for each other and they are more important than the physical act (should be, however)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 08:34 PM
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​ I would assume 1-2 sex partners per celibate year under the age of 30 a safe estimate. Counting from the year the girl has lost her virginity. So, for a girl of 23 years who lost her virginity at 18 I would assume that a n-count of 5-8 is "safe". Anything higher is suspicious. Not from a morality point of view but from "values" point of view. This without considering cheating. I would prefer a girl with 10 body count but one after another, in a real love story, than a girl with 3 body count in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 11:43 AM
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I am not implying anything, do not misunderstand me. I am simply saying that the act of trying something which is mutual (sex) without feelings (just for "fun", to try it) could generate feelings when you have a relationship based on love. Or, saying in another way: you are free to make love without love, but your act of dissociating the physical act from feelings can generate feelings when you are in a relationship based on love where sex is based on feelings. That does not oblige to do anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 04:37 AM
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as you probably have inferred by my nickname I am a transwoman. As a husband, of course not. I would be a bit uncomfortable. (not that I judge her, but a gut feeling tells me she is not "right"). When I complete my transition with ID changed on the papers, well, maybe, if we will be still together. The power dynamics in a couple of women are very different, as also the legal aspect of the marriage itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 04:21 AM
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as others have said this book was really written by an Italian teenager, moreover a Sicilian teenager, which is the equivalent of your "Bible belt". That alone was a recipe for success at the time when in Italy the first season of "Sex and the city" was aired.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:38 PM
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Q: Are there any secrets to long-lasting relationships? A: Infidelity. Not the act itself, but the threat of it. For Proust, an injection of That's another key point. I have yet to see a woman who has had a "wild phase" without any form of cheating, or open-relationship. this form of menace is also another turn down for the man, as if she told him: "Hey, dear, I am not the good/girl, please know that I have been a cheater in the past and I could do it again, but please behave correctly and you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:36 PM
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So, while this story seems nice... keep in mind that it is a work of fiction. Melissa has written a partial autobiography. She was 17 when the book was printed. Maybe not complete, but the events are mostly real.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:46 PM
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I wouldn’t want anything to do with a woman like this if I had any idea about her past, and many men wouldn’t. yes, but not because her past is bad, but because her past might tell something about a dark side of her which, if not shown, will bite you back. For me it is impossible to marry someone without knowing his-her dark side, especially in regard of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:44 PM
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That is why they told you. It keeps you insecure, and small. Thanks, I will save it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:42 PM
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This whole free love bullshit is basically a means for men to get prostitute type sex without paying from the random women around them. for certain type of men. This is the concept. Certain type of men, alpha, handsome, extrovert, whatever, have the right to have prostitute type sex but... then, alas, all the fireworks have been fired. Only missionary style for the future husband, if he is lucky, otherwise a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:41 PM
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thanks for the reply, the thing that made me think most about this book (which I read after the discussion with my SO) is that Melissa is adamant in telling herself the story that she can do whatever and the future love of her life would simply accept her in her experimentation but... but she won't do those things any more. ​ Even if she enjoys them. She even asks to be raped by one of her lovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:40 PM
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thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:36 PM
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It seems theres a fundamental rift between men and women in this issue. What men think is absolutely morally abhorrent and illogical, or frankly cruel if only it was done consciounsly, women embrace in the name of fun and experimentation and freedom or whatever. I think that it is not simply about sex. Men usually have to take more responsibilities and it seems strange to them that for women actions seems to not have consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:35 PM
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that's fair, however the girlfriend-wife should understand this
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:33 PM
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but this is it. You cannot avoid FOMO feelings with the majority of men if you have done more acts than him. ​ True, most men can overcome them but it is not the pinnacle of trust and some things will resurface, sooner or later.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:32 PM
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To me, the vanilla sex with someone who loves me IS the maximum yes. But if the girl has done group sex that becomes the maximum. it is right, however, that a girl who has not done any kink is not obliged to do that only because her husband wants to do it. But if she has done it and her husband wants to see that side of her it is a human feeling, I don't say that she must obey the husband but that his request comes from a very, very different point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:30 PM
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I think it's fine to do crazy stuff when you're single, but I think it's good to share that side of yourself with the one you love most. You don't lose your appetite for having your throat violated or your face sat on just because you fall in love. Be a freak with your other half yes, this is what I think. You can show your darkest side in the brightest of the love.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:27 PM
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sex is different, it should include feelings versus another human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:26 PM
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That book, sounds like a girl that got tricked/manipulated and is trying to justify her way out of it. Yes, it seems like so, in the book Melissa tries to justify all the possible acts as something like "I deserve better but I like it and, moreover, I can return clean every night with 100 strokes of brush"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 06:25 PM
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so for you love > sex, which I can agree on. But on another part of life sex > love, that is you do something without loving, for sake of experimenting. So sex is more important but not when there is love. That apparent irregularity is what could erode trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 01:18 PM
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it seems like I could experiment while you cannot which is not a good foundation for a marriage, imho.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:45 AM
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Sorry but it's disgusting. Wouldn't be able to read such a book, about someone degrading themselves and thinking nothing has changed because time has moved on. it's like a "I will go into the mud" and then I will raise up clean as before. And "the man who will truly love me will love also the mud I have been in"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:32 AM
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99% of the time, of a girl has an adventures past, it’s been pressured by bfs that's an aspect of FOMO, however. the LTR guy can't convince her to do that thing the street guy met in disco 3 years before could do it during a night. ​ The LTR "good guy" could think he is just not adapt to awaken that side. I do not say he is right, but that his feeling is equally justified. We are humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:30 AM
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yes, of course, not all women are like Melissa.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:27 AM
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For your threesome example, I think it makes more sense to do it with someone you don't care about, as you're likely to be too possessive over someone you do care about to do in your particular example... if the girl has had a 3some in the past and the guy has not, would you accept the "pseudo solution" to allow the guy to catch up the experience with a prostitute and a friend? They both have the same experience and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:27 AM
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The girl in the book was 15. She might’ve been having sex but she wasn’t emotionally mature and didn’t have a fully developed brain. Does she have to repeat the shit she did at 15 forever with every partner because the partner feels like they ‘missed out?’. Well, it is a bit of a conundrum here. at 15 a girl is under the responsibility of her parents. If she does these things, without violence and without coercion (in the book she is immature, but she willingly goes downhill) probably her parent…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:24 AM
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Its not his fault women felt he wasn't worthy of banging her and her friend at the same time. Quite a few men are unfortunate to never have this kind of fun and could only get sex if hes in a monogamous LTR. ​ that's the point. if sex is not so important, why don't you want to repeat with a person you love? If it is so important... than you should marry only with a person who really turns the wild side of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:20 AM
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yes, I understand from a female pov, but we are humans and even if you have eaten a lot of junk food in the past and realize that a simple frugal food is better, if you meet a man who has never tried junk food... maybe it won't be sufficient to say well, I have already tasted it, it is awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:18 AM
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that's fine. However as a relationship is mutual we have to realize that our "change" of preference could have consequences I can be a violent man (or alcoholic) and be changed I can be a man who has never done violence (or got drunk) Which of the two you could prefer it is not only a matter of be changed but a matter of gut/feeling which is inexplicable but it is present
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 10:15 AM
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I think there is nothing more saddening than someone dying before getting to live out their deepest kink/sexual fantasy. This is quotable. But not from the sex point of view alone, because sex is (can be) a mean to know yourself. And the greatest kink is also the greatest key to unlock your deepest knowledge
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 09:19 AM
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me too. I call it the "Tess d'Uberville syndrome", from the novel. Some men have it and this is a disease, certainly. A virgin is not a virgin in the physical sense. Pretending that is bad sign. By the way Tess was raped... so her being not virgin should have not counted. However we could agree that from the other spectrum a "sex and the city" lifestyle is something which, without any further explanation, can be something to be frown upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:16 AM
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My fiance has a higher count than I do but we had a similar journey that's the point. a high n-count man meets a high n-count woman and they understand each other because they had same experiences and realize it was not worth it. Problem is when a high n-count woman meets a low n-count man, or vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 08:25 PM
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it is bad for both sexes, however the reason for why it is bad it is different. For men it is bad because it distracts them from pursuing self-control and education in their formative years. For women it is bad because it ruins a bit the "magic" of finding and cultivating real love. There is not a double standard, but different energies at play. Men should cultivate the divine masculine which is focus, self discipline and motivation. Women should cultivate the divine feminine which is allowance,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 05:28 AM
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I would say this. a high n count usually is sign of something else. For example in this case cheating. I would ask them if in this history of 30 there is some cheating involved. (99% there is, I think it is impossible to reach this number without cheating, or it will be composed of only ONS, but in this case it would be another complex thing to unpack). that, the cheating, and not the n-count, would be the deal breaker for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 05:10 PM
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well, it's not about allowance, it is about long term planning. relationship are no different from education, job choices, friendships. it's not the n/count the problem, it is that a high n-count usually is an indicator of other potential issues, which could signify the lack of commitment in the long term. And marriage is 99% commitment and 1% love...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 01:09 PM
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pro: any Cons: In laws. ​ It is far more important to pick the right in-laws than the right wife-husband, especially in "latin"-Catholic based countries (no racism here, just some general advice) for men: As she will be like her mother. See your future mother in law: your wife will be 90% like her in 20 years. If you like your MIL, you will likely like your wife for a long time. for women: You will have to be confronted every day with his mother. See if you can be friend with his mother. If you …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 05:14 AM
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there is one little flaw in your reasoning. Time. It is true that, eventually, all men, also below average, or average, will get a pair. After all we are more or less 50-50. Or, better, there are slightly more women than men. But the problem is that the current date-love scenario has shifted this bonding time. For some women this is really an advantage, we can have more educated women, more women at school, less children, etc, but for the a part of girls this means to have a "party-time" of 5-10…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 03:57 AM
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I have a teenage daughter. Yes, I am a transwoman, but biologically a father, so I can answer here. I taught her some simple lessons that come from my experience as a man. Some of them are: Treat any boyfriend as "the one". It may not work out, but enter a relationship only if there is this possibility, otherwise stay friends. When "the one" will arrive, he will care not how many have been before but with what spirit you have had them. Sexually, abortion, even if legal, is not good. You have man…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:47 AM
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the actions you take at 15-16 may not be taken with a fully developed "moral compass"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 06:27 AM
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simply because there is a woman-centered family law as before it was There have been tries to level the responsibilities but they are not welcomed by feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 06:22 AM
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yes, but sometimes the actions taken were not fully taken in a responsible state. This does not mean she is now responsible of how she sees the past actions. Sometimes the way in which you see the past renders the past more or less bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 05:39 AM
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(disclaimer: I do not live in USA and I am a MfF woman, so I might not be entitled to say my opinion) There is a double standard here that cannot be avoided. A girl cannot treat sex as a boy, the sexual liberation for girls needed a freely available "emergency pullout" (the abortion) in which only the woman had the choice to level the sex field, to make "casual sex" possible also for girls. But this at the possible expense of another human being (I am pro life except for rape-abuse-medical reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 05:34 AM
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The "bottom" answer usually is anything that makes you cum for a boy and that enters your vagina as a girl (with another person) however: I am fairly convinced that a girl (and a boy, but usually we talk about girls) does not lose her virginity until she loses her "purity". Sex with a person she loves does not make her less virgin than a virgin. Serial monogamy does not make her less "pure" than a virgin. She is still valuable as a virgin. I think that there are certain markers that are more imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:56 AM
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as the past cannot be changed it hurts to know that some decisions have consequences. if a girls says "I will go out only with a "six-figure-man" she is talking about the present and the future. The message she implies is: "work hard and you may get me". The message implied by "I want only inexperienced girls" is: you cannot do anything to change your past. You are lost for my eyes. And this, well, hurts, even if it is nonsensical. Do you see the difference? It is like saying: - I won't go out w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:20 AM
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you are talking about something like "Brave new world" remove the pregnancy variable from the equation of sex and you will have gender neutral sex. But this won't automatically make sex more available. Guess what, the only practical way to make sex available was to limit the female sexual freedom, but this is impractical now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 08:59 AM
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A man can be "nice" but lazy, without any education, dependent on parents, without any clear idea on politics or social matters, spoiled in food (no vegetables), unhealthy habits (too much sugar drinks, junk food) excessive-compulsory porn use uncapable of doing household chores uncapable of cooking ... you see? Being nice is one thing, being a possible husband is another. So, being a girl, at least I go with nice (in the sense of attractive) men who don't commit and might be not so "nice" (in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 08:44 AM
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yes, you can avoid CC and post CC women and I understand the fear of being chosen because the girls ran out of time and possibilities. But please take some time to think about yourself. What is your biggest fear? I am not telling you to change entirely your point of view, but to consider it from a different perspective. Is your fear of being used? Or, better, the fear that she might cheat on you after you put a ring on her finger? Are you most afraid of her past or your future? People do not cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 05:08 AM
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I can give a almost mirrored personal experience myself. Almost because I am not a biological woman, however I am transitioning after several decades as a man. As a man I was invisible, pretty much, and the very few relationships that I had had been LTR in which sex was done after several weeks of chatting, walking, "be friends". If I put a online profile its "inbox / outbox ratio" was something like 0.01 or lower (100 messages sent to get maybe one response). As soon as I started to present fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 04:43 AM
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prostitution has a marginal effect on men who want companionship, graduality, affection. Do not confuse between going to different prostitutes regularly between going regurarly to the same single prostitute; the second scenario is more or less something like a paid girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 08:54 PM
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"all of mine"... all is a high number. For LTR I mean very "Long", marriages, or at least >7 years I should have said this: I never saw a marriage coming from a hookup... they might be present but I never saw one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 04:48 AM
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No, they diverge by the amount of time it requires to have sex. I never saw a LTR (irl, in books or movies is another story) coming from sex at first date especially when one, or both parties know at first it would be a casual encounter. If you are adult (>25) and want a LTR do not have sex for at least 4-5 dates, know the other person better. Sex is important, but too much sex at the beginning will make you blind for the important things which, eventually, will come after and be the problems (k…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:32 PM
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In my experience if a girl shows interest and you don't move (at least try to kiss her!) on the first date you won't get a second date. If you insist on a second date she will friendzone you if you try. That does not mean that you need to make sex at first date, but you _must_ at least give her a good sign that you like her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:14 PM
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The problem with this claim is that the same 80/20 rule which is applied to "hot men / average men" can be reversed to women with the dicothomy "women to marry / women NOT to marry". If a rational man wants to marry he will have to compete to get the top 20% women in his area to get a good chance of an happy marriage which is clearly not possible unless for a very small percentage of men. Nowadays the only rational decision for an average man is not to marry until things change at the bottom, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 07:29 AM
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I think that you have introduced a thought experiment, so I propose mine... just a fantasy. why simply not introduce polyandry-polygamy as a cultural accepted norm? In this way a woman will be free to marry different men for different reasons. Alice will marry Chad for making a baby and marry Bob to raise Chad's baby but Chad and Bob will be both husbands of Alice at the same time. Of course Chad will be husband also of Mary, Sheila, etc... instead Bob will probably have only one wife. Well, at …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:45 AM
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Female love, sexual attraction and companionship... ...they are different and they don't necessarely come together. You can't force sexual attraction. faster, cheaper, better: pick two The "solution" might be to force all girls to marry at least a somewhat compatible boy, but to tell men that your wife will be not faithful. This was probably the "norm" in the past: all women were induced to marry before 20, sometimes as early as 15-16 (at least here in Europe). So in some way all men had access …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 03:53 AM
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They are different beasts. As there are different Alphas. A woman might go with a hot guy also to assert her dominance in her peer group of female friends. There is envy and imitation. I have met countless girls that told me they had given their virginity to a random hot guy not because they loved him but just because they were the last virgin in their class or wanted to be the first to lose it. Sex happens for a lot of different reasons. AFBB happens but a bit later in life, between 19-25 when …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:51 AM
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when marriage is not any more the gatekeeping of relationships well, anything can happen. I am not advocating the "good old days", but of course if the average age for a woman to be married is 25/30 it is clear that she tries to catch the best man around her. if all girls should be married by 18 or something like that the settlement phase is earlier and the "discovering" phase might not happen at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:39 AM
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please define the context. In view of marriage men DO CARE about the past. maybe for a casual encounter in college... not. If the college crush can become something serious well... the question: "how many before me..." eventually knocks at the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 04:18 AM
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I know what you mean, but the average "bad guy" can do much more harm than the average "bad girl". so the average "good girl" should be more cautious in her dating. I know this statement is not objective, but please take it with a grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 09:22 AM
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simply put: being the one who chooses carries responsabilities. being the one chosen (or not) is less risky, just move along. Women have the power of choice, yes, but this is very risky because, guess what?, _some_ men are really really good at faking a genuine feeling and costly mistakes can be made. ​ do not think only about hook up culture, being 20 and pretty and going to the disco is one thing, tons of options, yes, but very ephemereal. being a "normal" girl who is scared of meeting a "snak…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:17 PM
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they are exactly as bad. Women, however, tend to cheat in response to some bad signal that comes from their partner. This is not a justification. In my experience the trigger for a cheating man is a dead bedroom for a cheating woman a dead heart. Hence the different consequences of the cheating itself Which is in any case a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:19 PM
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men do compete usually on the physical layer to get the attention of a woman Given 10 men in a row a woman, before speaking to them a single word, can surely 100% know which of these men has a chance to get sex with her. Being cheated on is like being put in a row with another and given the "friend" card even after 10/20 years of relationship and commitment. It's devastating for women too, but they have different mechanism to cope, one of them is "revenge cheating", which, even if not 100% moral…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:49 AM
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My opinion is that standards are different for the sexes. I think that women, in general, should not lower their "romantic" standards Better be virgin/single at 20 than pass a chain of toxic relationships/casual sex with a string of men who exploit your craving for affection. First build a romantic story, then sex. Men, on the other hand, should really mantain higher their desire for affection and do not settle for a friendzone which will never turn into a romance (never say never... let's say h…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 08:18 AM
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I cannot imagine a shy general that orders shy soldiers to go to war.... generally speaking
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:06 PM
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it's not that a woman biologicallly is attracted to a certain type of guy. It's an acquired behaviour, like a pair of glasses. She sees that a man is hot, but it's because she is wearing a certain type of lenses. We are not 100% driven by instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:49 PM
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no, quite the contrary. we need more shy and introverted men, the one which usually do not have access to reproduction (and sometimes become only step-fathers of single or divorced mothers) We need to learn a new way to improve the overall ethic of society not how broad the shoulders of its men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 03:45 PM
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you have not told us if you are virgin also romantically. that's a big factor. have you already had a girlfriend? also a LTR, but clearly a relationship, not a friendship, not friendzoned? Have you already said "I love you" to a girl and a girl has already said "I love you" in return? First, and foremost, try to lose your romantic virginity. it seems like you have never fallen in love. Do not concentrate on the physical act, there's plenty to explore romantically and some girls would love to mee…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:11 AM
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It depends on the country. Here in Italy DO NOT MARRY and do not have children, please. Especially if you are a bit nerd. Or do marry a nerd like you (it's the lowest risk). Laws are blindly applied in favour of the wife. Children, home, payments, all goes to the ex wife. The risk of losing everything in case of divorce is too high. Courts in Italy assume that you are extroverted and "latin", if you are Italian, introverted and shy Courts will go down on you because they know that you cannot def…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:56 AM
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just do not go to bed at the first 5 dates or a month (whichever comes last) with a specific person. If a man is still around you after a month or 5 dates without getting sex he is for something serious. (5 and a month are somewhat arbitrary, but at 21 usually boys after 2 or 3 dates without sex go on something else unless they are caring for a long term relationship)
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/22 10:49 AM
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I can give also a male perspective: I think that your future husband would not care if an object has already entered inside your vagina, and would not object your "virgin" status. Would you object his virgin status if he has entered a fake vagina? Usually "virgin" is not only something physical but mental. do you think that inserting an object in your vagina will void your virginity? Technically maybe, but usually "virgin" is a woman which has not met a man yet inside her. Objects do not count. …
/r/RedPillWomen04/05/22 10:46 AM
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for the love of God do NOT hide or change the number. Below 15 is a "normal" number, but psychologically it is very different saying 3 when the real number is 14 than if the real number is 89 and you say 35. Being sincere upfront will pay in the long run. You do not need to disclose this information at the first date, but surely before any major step: sleeping together (not making love, just the first night together), meeting parents, siblings, etc. You might lose somebody but who remains will h…
/r/RedPillWomen22/04/22 06:26 PM
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Don't do stuff you would have to hide. Simple this of course is a piece of wisdom for every aspect of life, not only relationships. Thanks for the answer
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 07:35 AM
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so from your point of view the gut feeling of retroactive jealousy is in some way to be taken seriously and not something to overcome? My feeling is that if the girl is clearly open about her past from the beginning of the relationship than retroactive jealousy is in some way prevented. ​ Either walk away, the relationship does not even start or accept her past when the emotional attachment is low.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 06:36 AM
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very well said, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 06:33 AM
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thanks for the answer
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 04:38 PM
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thanks for the answer, really helpful. however I think that empathy should work both ways. Suppose always for sake of simplicity Alice with a crazy sexual past and Bob, virgin, or almost virgin. Alice knows that Bob has way less experience than she has (it is evident) but for fear, guilt or shame does not tell him. Bob eventually finds out and should be empathetic towards Alice because she had fear and shame. Yes, but also Alice could have had empathy towards Bob and spare him the emotional cost…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 03:47 PM
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If a man believes that a woman with a high-n count is a bad bet for a relationship, I say all the power to him. And surely, women who use promiscuity to bed men out of their league for casual sex will now "not settle" for more average men. thanks, however the point of the discussion is slightly different. should a woman who has used promiscuity tell her possible life partner that information or should she wait a direct answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 03:39 PM
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thanks, you seem a very open and loving person (in all senses!). Usually from what I perceive in the posts of others is not the n/count the real problem, usually it is the discrepancy between the perceived image of the girl in the present and her past. If a girl has a wild sexual past which she wants to share with her current boyfriend... well only a stupid would say no. Usually what drives men nuts is to discover that their "normal" girlfriend after some years of normal, vanilla sex, has done v…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 03:28 PM
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thanks, however if we consider that we are humans and that love is mainly forgiveness the rule is kind foggy. Suppose that Bob says: "I will never marry a prostitute". Alice has been a prostitute, she tells Bob the truth before. Bob refuses her, but, if he could stay with her, he would find that she is the perfect woman for him with only that mark in the past which he might at that point forgive, also because she has been sincere from the start. Other scenario, she hides it, Bob finds that she r…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 03:08 PM
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it goes both ways, however it seems that usually the posts are related from boys to girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 02:48 PM
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yes, but which is the threshold, if any exists?, between hiding and simply "forgetting"? If I have had in the past only monogamous relatioinships then I can say that my past is my past and I don't have to disclose anything and I don't think I am hiding anything from you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 02:29 PM
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so are you basically saying that every information should be disclosed before starting a serious (towards marriage) relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 02:08 PM
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So weird that someone’s sexual past is such a hot button issue. Not once have I felt compelled to ask about a partners past it depends on the relationship type. I am talking about choosing a life partner. disclosing or not the past in view of a committed relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 01:47 PM
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I generally assume that all women have a wild and crazy sexual past. that's a sensible way of doing, but it seems you are not considering marriage, but only normal relationships. I apologize if I did not put it clearly in the post, my question is regarding when the boy or the girl wants to choose the life partner. Also in this case would you assume that your future wife has a crazy sexual past without any blink of an eye?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 01:46 PM
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I also like to think forgiveness is one of the best ways to love somebody. that's true, that's the main point, thanks for claryfing it. At the end you will have to forgive, but the effort to forgive a heavy past is lower is this heavy past is brought willingly at the start of the relationship, rather than after 3 years with the engagement ring on the finger...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 01:39 PM
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thanks, that is also my opinion. if you are going to enter a serious relationship (for marriage) past mistakes are important to be brought up in light, even if past.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 10:30 AM
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If you feel the need to hide something to your partner, that's cheating. thanks. This is gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 10:28 AM
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OK, this is when the cat's out of the bag. When there we know there is a past... and they say: "none of your businees". But before? Suppose you are with a person that in the present does not seem to have done anything... should you enquire them? or should they willingly tell you, even if they have changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 10:27 AM
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fuck her, forget about it, hook up with other women. well, but the point of my discussion is another. It is, what if the other person does not want to hook up but want a "normal" girl to marry and he exposes his view at the begininng of the relationship. should the other person reveal spontaneusly (without a formal interrogation) that, at least in the past, she has made choices contrary to that present? and, if so, what is the threshold between a "neutral" choice done in the past and one (or man…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 08:27 AM
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the point is that something might be difficult to ask. Suppose your So has done prostitution before, or group sex and it might bother you. wouldn't it be strange to ask a direct question? Have you been a prostitute in the past? you can 1) assume every girl is unless proven wrong 2) assume that if she has done it she has the courage (honesty) to tell you before you ask
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 07:39 AM
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so, if I know after some years that the person has cheated in the past, and then they refuse to give details about these cheatings, should it be considered a red flag? besides... there are certain aspects which might be difficult to foresee... for example it might be strange for someone asking her SO: have you ever done prostitution? But, if the other person has done it, wouldn't it be strange to wait for a direct answer before revealing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 07:29 AM
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thanks, that's fair. but wouldn't it be better if the other person offers this information willingly? we are talking about relationship not business here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 07:28 AM
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well said. it boils down to the simple question: if all my past were exposed to my current SO, would he/she be bothered by some of it? if yes, based on our gut feeling, then we should talk before. ​ The question is not what I have done, but what I have done plus the person I am relating to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 07:26 AM
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"we" in this sense... the average person. But I see your point. There is no need to call for the average. What's most important is the type of the people involved. If I am going to be enganged with a very religious person maybe I should disclose if I have done an abortion in my past, even if abortion is legal and in your case justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 06:38 AM
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in this case probably you would not enter in any relationship...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 06:29 AM
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of course. But my question is... suppose that eventually all of your past will get exposed, is there anything that you (by intuition) think that it might be a problem for your SO? If so... should it be better for your SO know it before and not after?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 06:28 AM
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but... My point is that n/count is irrelevant if it is inserted into a relatiohship. That is... if you are 40+, still not married, it is not strange to have a body count of 20+, but if all these numbers are inside monogamous relationships it does not matter. If you have a body count of 20 but of these 20, 17 are one-night-stands, well, this is another matter. Imho.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 06:27 AM
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yes, this is a very important thing to consider. Not only what have you done but what are your current prospects for this relationship. If it is clear a "throwaway" boy/girlfriend then disclosing the past is not required. But as soon "serious" things are going to happen (metting the parents, meeting children from past relationships) then any garbage from the past must be taken out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 06:24 AM
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very well said, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 06:22 AM
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yes, this is the point of my post. what is the boundary between "I have lied by omission" and "I have a 'normal' past so, unless you ask me the direct question, I do not have any obligation to tell you"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 06:22 AM
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do you mean that any sex-related thing is "none of your business" unless you plan to marry that person?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 06:09 AM
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Given that very few men can have the same experience as an average woman your question is in some way tautological. If you are an average man 95% of your potential female partners will have more experience than you. Get over it or do not engage in a relationship. Or, better, know yourself first, know your soft and hard boundaries about what constitutes for you a "sane" past baggage BEFORE starting a relationship or in any case before making it serious enough (engagement, marriage). Because there…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 07:33 AM
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The problem is not being the best but to doubt it. If a relationship, for whatever reason, arrives at that point... it's a cul de sac. You can go on only stepping back _carefully_. it's now a question of trust, not of sex anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 08:31 PM
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from great power comes great responsibility This is a common trope. Women have a great power to attract but we are building a society in which they are not responsible for it. In the past the woman exercised that great power to tie a man for life, in good and bad times and it pretty much worked. I am not sure, but I suppose that this society change is not _entirely_ wanted by women, they simply accept it to FOMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 04:08 AM
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You can have 20 men queuing at your door, but it is the 21st on the TV show that makes you wet. Abundance and scarcity are relative... Girls often fantasizes also on fictional characters (the overwhelming success of twilight and similar vampire stories is a cue) and this is their way of being frustrated... no real boy can compete...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 05:04 AM
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it can be both. When in high school I was sometime able to tell if a girl was on her period because of the typical "iron" smell of that. It was a bit unpleasant. Then usually a woman learns to properly take care of her during those days. boys usually smell a lot more. The thing is that it is true that a boy cares less, but it is also true that apart from her period a girl smells less than a boy and with less effort she smells less. A boy with the explosion of hormones especially with physical ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 05:13 AM
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here (in Italy) we are discussing about the other end of the debate: supporting death for irreversible sick people. If a fetus is not a person and can be killed, how about a person in a vegetative state who may not wake up and, if woken, may pass the rest of his-her life in bed. is it life? I am pro-choice but the mantra of the pro-life "abortion is a homicide" I think is right, so is interrupting cures for a (supposedly) irreversible sick person. Sometimes the state can allow these homicides. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 04:30 AM
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Yes, but that's the price to pay if you are a woman and you want a relationship. your low-level-ancient female brain is hardwired to find attractive only certain male characteristics which are not so common, (maybe 10-20%, less). But society (and the fact that our children need both parents for a long time) impose (at least in the past) otherwise, all men should marry, even the "average". I suppose (just a shower thought) that the importance of female virginity in the past was to make sure that …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 04:59 AM
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love yourself is love yourself, not someone else... you may say that it is easier for a woman to love herself if she gets attention but be careful that this is the main reason why many women fall into toxic/abusive relationships. They mistakenly take the external validation as a sign of being happy with themselves (they aren't). men might have a harder time to use that path, but usually a man can change drastically, if he wants, only with exercise, diet and healthy habits. Things that may have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 07:27 AM
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scar about sexual past and scar about commitment are both sides of the same coin. Contrapoints has uploaded recently a video on "Envy" which might be important here. men are envious of the other men which their girlfriend has had because they had a younger body and maybe obtained things from her that she is not willing to give them. women are envious of the future women a man has because they will get the fruit of "their work", this is why women are generically more vindicative in a divorce. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 03:58 AM
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Let's be honest though. There are indeed cases of unluckily girls-women who are effectively seduced and abandoned, with an high n-count but for other reasons... Tess of the d'Ubervilles is not just a novel, Justine in the Miserables... cases like that were (and are) still very, very common. We should distinguish (how? that's another problem...) _how_ the girl approached sexuality and relationships. As in all matters... a simple number (the n-count) is not a reliable predictor. I would at least i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 06:26 AM
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if you are right that might explain why older women are less selective, not because they are less attractive (at least to a certain point). Because they "risk less" in term of probability of getting pregnant. A girl in her twenties must evolutionary chase the "Chad" because she is more fertile then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 05:35 AM
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From your comment I suppose that you refer to "first bed" unions. People never married. But life has levels and steps. And also mistakes. Now it is rarer, but death sometimes happens also in young people so there are widows out there. Divorces happens, also with good people. So good people re-enter the dating market. monogamy is not always for a lifetime, also good relationships end, so good people enter the dating market again. yes, the underlying idea is true: if a good person (especially woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 04:24 AM
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there is something in our brain which is hardwired and cannot change. Let's call it the "homo sapiens firmware v0.9" This firmware knows this: if you are a man you need a faithful wife. Not horny, not sex doll, not with a beautiful body... at the end of the day your firmware is telling you to make a baby and to be sure that the baby is yours. the highest quality of a wife is fidelity. In every circumstance. In every aspect. Men have fear of being cheated, because it _happens_. If you are a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 05:03 PM
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maybe there is a trade off between quantity and quality. A girl has more possibility of quantity and she seems more craving for sex. A woman in her 30s or 40s should have a more balanced life, one LTR and, if single, even several stories but not with the same "rush" as 20 years before. She seems less interested in sex but it is the opposite. She is more interested in quality sex and, in our species, quality sex is in some way ingrained with intimacy and you need time to build it. So she wants mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 04:48 PM
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Don't underestimate the power of projection. Usually the girl you really like for sex is not for life, but for different reasons. It's not the dichotomy hoe / housewife Combined marriages in a certain way were more stable because if you remove the sexual attraction as a variable you will find a more compatible partner that, _in the long run_, will be also a sexual fulfilling partner. the problem is that nature wants to spread genes fast (look and sex) culture and society wants stable unions (and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 04:59 AM
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in the Gospels Jesus forgives Magdalene but does not marry her. there is a grain of salt here. No judgment for a woman's past, but marriage and lifetime commitment are somewhat incompatible with a history of casual sex, but not because it is bad per se but because marriage is _HARD_, very hard. And when the rubber hits the road (children, mortgages, unemployment, diseases, they _will_ come...) a person who in her 20s has escaped commitment in favor of short term pleasure might not stay on the bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 05:09 AM
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The virginity never was and never will be a problem, apart for very religious people. The problem lies in the fundamental different role in sex between woman and man and the different effort in parenting. No one here (I suppose) wants to limit the girl's freedom to make experiences before marriage, the problem is that a man needs to feel he is the "One", the "best" in all fields for his wife (especially sex!) and that means that the girls "experiences" should be "compatible" with the chosen one.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 04:27 AM
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just a reminder that usually when people are offended they are usually projecting. it might be the case that he is offended because he IS considering YOU a friend and is afraid of having being caught. be careful, you have no fault, don't fall into his projections and simply try to understand also what he really thinks of you, it seems that it's time for an honest conversation.
/r/RedPillWomen28/07/21 03:58 AM
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it really depends also on your bf, why not go shopping together asking him what would he like you to wear? It could be fun...
/r/RedPillWomen21/07/21 04:00 AM
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I understand your point but actually I thought that red pill men actually reverse the last sentence in: stop trying to pretend to want a husband when you are 30 if for 10 years all you wanted were free encounters (free as in free beer and free speech) or, at least, if you really change your mind, and want a husband, try to get him from the _same_ pool of men you chose for free-dating, and good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 03:03 PM
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I have read that you know him since you were born. But you have not talked about your father. Are they friends? If yes probably their opinion on women could be similar. My hypothesis is that he would have talked to you if he did seem something odd in your behavior-appearance. Sometimes (not always) men talk when things go wrong in their eyes, their silence means: It's OK for me (on the contrary of women where usually their silence means quite the opposite :) ). But, on top of that, my curiosity …
/r/RedPillWomen17/07/21 12:03 PM
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I have a different opinion in which for me, especially in girls, the n-count is reciprocal to the time spent with a given partner. That is, it's not the act per se important, it is the bonding stage. Saying that girl A has a body count of 10 as girl B does not count anything if we don't put into consideration how the 10 is reached. It's different to have 25 years and 10 exes with a minimum duration of 4/5 months and a maximum of 12, and to have 25 years and 10 ex-boyfriends with a minimum durati…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 11:27 AM
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Even if the suggestions to have "better friends" are OK, there is a grain of truth in what they say with respect to a long term commitment. Here you should really think about your past history of dating and how you feel in the future with this guy. If you are thinking about tying the knot till death well, _every_ aspect of the relationship matters, and looks may have a role, or, better, the perceived value may change. You already say that he is a "5 or 6"... but now you are in love... and things…
/r/RedPillWomen16/07/21 07:34 AM
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It depends on the definition of "share". Share in the same time/space, no. Share in the sense of serial share, yes. You can say, better one week of relationship (monogamous) with Chad, than one year with Beta
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 05:39 AM
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The bell curve of the sexual maturity has always been shifted for females, and that had a biological soundness as the greatest burden of reproduction is theirs. Now that the urge or reproduction is gone, girls use this biological advantage (of being mentally and physically mature in their teens) to compete in the sexual market with the high value of being young, where being very young is, in itself, an attraction. They want men with at least their level of maturity so their peers are automatical…
/r/RedPillWomen14/07/21 05:29 AM
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well, you are right in a sense... from a pure game theory perspective the man-woman game is unfair and the rational solution for an average man is not to play. The cost is very high (half of marriages end in divorce) and divorce is very expensive for a man, both mentally, emotionally (especially if there are kids) and, last but not least, economically. And the reward... probably only 3-4% of marriages are "happy" for both sides. Moreover it is somewhat scientifically predicted that women with a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 07:51 PM
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You haven't talked about your job environment. are there any male colleagues at your work place? have you got any brothers, male cousins? they could introduce you to their friends, you could go out and meet them in a safe context. I would avoid for now online dating for a while as you seem a bit shy and inexpert. The excess skin should not be a problem for a man who loves you, but if you plan to do the surgery sometime in the future please take into consideration the desire to have babies becaus…
/r/RedPillWomen09/07/21 07:36 AM
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The fact is that a single woman is not the same as a single man (speaking about over 30 and heterosexual). A single woman usually has a group of "orbiters" who might not lead to sex and relationship but which are in any case presences in her life, that presence could lead the woman to exit the dating market and simply wait. We have also to distinguish from single mother and single woman with no child. Usually single mothers are pickier in their choices as they have a reputation and a child to pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 07:36 AM
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you cannot be the best, that's the point, it is like the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Never reached. Society was built with the premise that you married what offered the market at a certain point and build from that. Marry early and work hard to make the relationship work, not work hard to find the best partner (who does not exist). Love was not the cause of the marriage but the effect after all the hardships and tragedies of a life in common (work, miscarriages, baby mortality). Don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 04:56 AM
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A man does not really care the past of a woman unless that woman hides it (and I think it goes both ways). Reading the posts in relationship_advice, etc, it seems that the greatest trauma for a partner is to discover the "high n-count" _after_ some time, after the relationship is committed, or, God forbid, after the marriage has taken place. it seems like on one hand girls tend to dismiss the importance of the body count, but some of them hide it for fear of "losing" the big opportunity and this…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 04:39 AM
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pregnancy and breastfeeding also play a crucial role. A woman in her 50s who has never been pregnant will generally look younger than a mom, ceteris paribus. Pregnancy, especially multiple pregnancies, usually do change a woman's body in an irreversible way and in a way which is perceived as "older", the "mom" figure, as opposed to the "girl" figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:11 AM
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I am optimistic instead. I have two teenagers (son and daughter) and I see much more respect towards different views and life styles than in my generation (1980s). My mother herself works at school and she is in contact with hundreds of teens every day, new generations are more empathic, respectful and do not objectify one another. men and women and the traditional family will hold on for centuries, I think, but only because it is wanted, not obliged like in the past. dating is different, probab…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 04:10 AM
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while watching porn during singleness might have benefits, watching porn in a relationships is mostly a bad thing. If sex is not good in a relationship enough the relationship has a problem but porn will simply make it worse in the long run. literary erotica is different and could be beneficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:12 AM
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it also depends on the porn imho. vanilla porn is normally is symptom and could be a "healthy" release. extreme porn (hentai, fetish, submissive, group sex) can be a cause because especially in virgins puts the mind in impossible situations which have no touch with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 04:50 AM
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we are talking about sexlessness, but without enough babies society is doomed in a few generations. I don't really know (I don't have a time machine) if women were really subjugate in the past, however the past was sustainable in the long term. Demography is destiny https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2011/09/demography-is-destiny/ some problems will have solutions that will unfold themselves...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:04 PM
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I think that even if sexlessness is important another important factor to take into consideration when analyzing the long term outcome of this scenario is the fertility rate. In Europe is well below 2.1, the minimum to sustain the population. In the long term this is a key factor, it does not matter the 80-20 rule, even if true. If every woman gives birth to at least 2.1 babies the system can sustain, otherwise will collapse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:00 PM
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Maybe there is a correlation between level of education in males and their sexlessness. I wonder if a high level of education in males (especially in STEM subjects) in any case diverts the libido and lower the competivity high enough to not be attractive to the younger women who prefer maybe simple, not so educated men but already independent (not living with parents). So it is a simple fact, the woman in her 20s maybe in College is "coerced" to look in the male population outside college to hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 07:59 PM
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Have you tried pen friends? (or now email/friends)? I understand your concerns about online dating however there are several good penpal sites where you could know interesting people without committing to a relationship which may or may not come, but you decide the pace.
/r/RedPillWomen28/05/21 12:50 PM
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Marrying a prostitute, or, generally, turning a prostitute into a wife is a long lasting literature plot, from Dumas to "la traviata" by Giuseppe Verdi, to Pretty Woman. You have some point, sometimes a woman must touch the bottom, and be payed for sex in some way is the bottom... but only if this bottom has been touched voluntary. Moreover the distinction from casual sex with more than 50/100 partners and a prostitute is a very thin one imho It is very unusual also in a casual sex setup that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:01 AM
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