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There’s not enough information available for me to provide an informed answer, which is why I responded with a query and not a statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:34 PM
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Good thing neither of us is really being an advocate here ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 08:20 PM
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That depends, does she think that people she considers ugly shouldn’t reproduce?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:51 PM
1

Oh okay, so you’re “not advocating for anything” you just think that it would be good if certain segments of the population were removed from the gene pool. Definitely not something a eugenicist would say though. Look, I’m not advocating for anything, but don’t you think it would be good if women couldn’t vote? I don’t advocate for this, but I mean, it would be good wouldn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:44 PM
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You’re literally advocating for eugenics. Just want to make sure we’re all clear about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:32 PM
3

You’re unlikely to crash while driving a car. Do you prefer not to wear a seatbelt?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 11:33 AM
4

If she knew that tattoos were a dealbreaker for me, why am I horrible for enforcing my boundary but she’s not horrible for breaking it? Seems like kind of a double standard to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 05:47 PM
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The disparity between men and women graduating college is more in favor of women today than it was in favor of men when title IX was first signed into law. Women receive more public assistance with paying for college than men do. Hell, women receive more public assistance than men do across the board, despite the fact that men as a group pay more in taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:47 AM
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That’s nice. I wouldn’t. Both perspectives are valid, but you being willing to marry a woman with tattoos is different from leaving a woman you’re already in a relationship with who gets one or more new tattoos while you’re already together. She’s free to do so if she likes, but leaving her over it isn’t being controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:33 AM
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I would 100% break up with a woman who got a tattoo while we were together because I’d never date a woman with any tattoos. How is that diabolical?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 11:26 AM
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I agree with this take more than I do OP’s take because your take recognizes the spectrum of ideas within the redpill/manosphere ecosystem while OP boils it all down to just MAGA. That’s like trying to describe the modern political left but only choosing to recognize it as communist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:55 PM
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Hinging the argument on the semantic difference between how the term “hypergamy” is used in red pill spaces versus sociological spaces seems a bit pedantic to me. Perhaps I’m the impostor here but framed like that I guess that I gravitate towards the sociological definition of the word. To your second point about how men are treated on Reddit for expressing dissatisfaction with modern dating I guess all I can do is disagree. Whether he says that he feels he needs to be more successful than the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 05:06 PM
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Sure, there are people who post things that most people would find offensive, but you’re cherry picking the most extreme examples. You self identify as a red pilled woman. You really think that if a man on Reddit posted a thread to the dating subreddit lamenting that he felt like he needed to be more successful than a woman for her to even consider him as a viable romantic prospect (hypergamy) that people wouldn’t be calling him an incel loser?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:55 PM
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One person’s “saying fucked up shit about women” is another person’s lived experience. And this being Reddit, the bar for “saying fucked up shit about women” is generally quite low compared to other platforms and environments.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:29 PM
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I firmly believe that anti-male discrimination has had a tangibly negative impact on my life and career trajectory.
/r/MensRights20/05/26 07:09 PM
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Providing power and opportunity to women at the expense of men without regard to equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 11:53 AM
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I don’t believe feminism is about equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:04 PM
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I think it’s adjacent to a “just world fallacy”, and tends to strike at more egalitarian minded blue-pillers. Like, they can’t outright deny that men have significant and legitimate grievances about dating in the 21st century, but they also hate to consider that men and women are fundamentally different and that these differences can lead to disparate outcomes, so the only way they can bring themselves to acknowledge the problems that men have with dating is by simultaneously giving equal weight…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 03:01 PM
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A traitor is more dangerous than an enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:39 PM
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So men are privileged because they can always fall back on doing the most dangerous and physically demanding jobs that women are either unwilling or incapable of doing? And because of this they should be happy that they’re discriminated against when seeking higher education and professional work?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 07:03 PM
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Huh, kind of like how no smart man is going to choose to be a security guard over getting an undergraduate degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:53 PM
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Women could just be an obedient wife too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:36 PM
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Decades of pro-female discrimination in hiring and education have done far more to advance the careers of women at the expense of men than any amount of pregnancy and period pain has blocked. The gender disparity between men and women graduating from college is now more in favor of women than it was in favor of men when title IX was first introduced. People say that life for women in the modern era is on easy mode because they receive billions of dollars in public assistance and government spend…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 06:12 PM
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Did you reply to the wrong post by mistake? I don’t see how what you’ve written relates to my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:01 PM
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Never forget that this is what feminists are like.
/r/MensRights16/05/26 11:49 AM
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You wouldn’t be dating. Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 06:28 PM
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Not a romantic one, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:57 PM
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I enjoy having my own place and living on my own more than I enjoy having a roommate. Twice now you’ve made comments about my standards and I’m curious about this. Why would I want to lower my standards to be in a relationship with a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:39 PM
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I don’t understand what you’re trying to imply.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:27 PM
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Would you rather have a woman who loved you, supported you, laughed with you, was your peace at home, but never wanted to have sex or touch your penis Apart from the “loved you” note, you just described having a good roommate. I don’t want a roommate. So yeah, I’d rather be single and sexless than coupled with a woman and also sexless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:11 PM
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I’ll need them for my planned siege of Rome.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:43 PM
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I agree, and kumbaya posts like OP’s always strike me as horribly naive. If one group says “no X” and the other side says “yes X”, there’s generally not going to be a compromise solution that makes everyone happy because one side MUST lose. The post is asking people to stop “fighting the war” to which I’d say “okay, you first”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:08 PM
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I’d leave any woman who isn’t interested in the kind of sex that I’m interested in regardless of whether she’d done it before with someone else or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:52 PM
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I agree with your title, but not your analysis. Men are responsible for what modern men perceive as “hoeflation” because men used to control society, and today they do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:22 PM
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This is obvious to any man under the age of 50 who has ever tried to build a career. Men have to be vastly more skilled and qualified than a woman to receive equal consideration.
/r/MensRights14/05/26 04:00 PM
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Nobody owes anyone anything. Apart from that this post is just you proclaiming that you’re not interested in having kinky sex. It’s fine if you aren’t just like it’s fine if others are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:19 PM
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The natural and inevitable outcome of years of feminist programming. This trend won’t be reversed either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 01:00 PM
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It’s not our job to educate you sweaty. Stop demanding that we do all this unpaid emotional labor for you. Besides, what evidence do you have exactly?
/r/MensRights08/05/26 03:19 PM
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Well put. I associate “hyperactive” with poorly controlled ADHD or other behavioral problems, and doesn’t really seem positively correlated with romantic success in my mind. Being driven, curious, enthusiastic, or energetic however, are positive qualities that people are generally drawn to.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 02:21 PM
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Men are powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 02:11 PM
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Wow I actually agree with you almost entirely for once. I wish that men had even a fraction of the solidarity with each other that women have. If we did, I think the world would look a lot different than it does now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 01:39 AM
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I actually don’t believe it matters how precisely or vaguely I choose to elaborate my position on the topic since I don’t believe you’re actually interested in the lived experiences that inform my perspective. I won’t cast pearls before swine and write an autobiography to someone who seemingly doesn’t even believe that women are capable of causing harm to men. Talk to a man who went through a difficult divorce if you’re actually curious about hearing some of the ways that women can cause harm to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:22 PM
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Probably of having a woman destroy the life he’s worked to build.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 02:18 PM
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What are men supposedly scared of about women then? I fear allowing a woman to have power over me because I’ve seen firsthand the consequences that can befall a man that does. Do they think women will hurt them in some way? Yes, I’ve seen the damage that a woman can do to a man’s life and I’m not naive about the danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:17 PM
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Am I not allowed to leave a woman if I’m not satisfied with the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:04 AM
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women now have the option to not get with a man just out of need. Correct. Looking at it another way, women have less demand for men than in the past. I have yet to see a strong argument here for why I personally benefit from this. Idek why you’d want someone that doesn’t truly desire you? If feeling desired is your end goal in relationships with women then great, more power to you. But being desirable to women isn’t mutually exclusive with being needed by them. You’re free to choose not to sele…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:46 PM
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I’m aware, which is why I referred to the quote as an analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 02:32 PM
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Ultimately it comes down to power, and being needed is a form of power. I recognize that there can be benefits to being desired over being needed, but I disagree with OP’s premise that the net benefit of being desired exceeds the net benefit of being needed. Haha, if you’ll allow me to go full villain for a moment, I’d actually refer to the writing of Machiavelli in defense of my position. “It is much safer for a prince to be feared than loved, if he is to fail in one of the two.” Now I’ll conce…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 02:25 PM
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How is this inherently a good thing for me though? Men and women have been getting married for thousands of years and for the majority of that time men were in greater demand by women than they are today out of necessity. Happy and fulfilling relationships between men and women aren’t mutually exclusive with women needing men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 02:06 PM
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I do see the happiness of a woman in my life as beneficial. After all, misery loves company. However, that’s a slightly different position than what OP is advancing, which is that women not needing men is a good thing. I don’t see being needed by a woman and a woman’s happiness as mutually exclusive though, so it still seems to me like men don’t really benefit from not being needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 02:01 PM
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Exactly, the company store benefits more from being in demand than it does from being desired by customers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 01:49 PM
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Yes, I’ve always been an advocate for traditional gender dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 01:20 PM
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My point is that transactional demand for what I can provide clearly produces tangible benefits for me. You might not find that romantic and that’s fine, but you not finding it romantic doesn’t mean that I’m not benefiting from it. And that’s why I disagree with OP’s premise that women not needing men is a good thing, because like I keep saying, I fail to see how I can benefit from being less in demand compared to being more in demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 01:11 PM
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One time, I got a job offer paying $20k more than I was making in my current role. I went to my supervisor and told them that if the company couldn’t match the offer I’d have to accept it. She brought it up to the board of directors and they approved a salary increase of $20k for me. Transactional demand for my services has had a strongly positive impact on my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 01:03 PM
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Even if the words you’re putting in my mouth were true, how would they disprove what I said before?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:28 PM
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I fail to see how being less in demand is good or beneficial to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:16 PM
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Men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 11:37 AM
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Yes, she was quite clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 08:03 PM
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I was 28 years when my parents divorced. Not sure what you’re trying to get at though. Gonna ask for my SSN next?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 07:56 PM
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Who told you this??? She did, though I’ll concede this wasn’t the exact wording she used. Were you there for the court proceedings? Would my presence at court have changed the outcome?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:55 PM
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I’d actually wager we’ve received an equal number of marriage proposals from women. Regardless, the number of proposals either of us has or hasn’t received seems irrelevant to my position that modern marriage primarily benefits women at the expense of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 06:20 PM
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Cool, still not going to get married if there’s a risk that what happened to my father could happen to me though. My belief remains that marriage in the 21st century is designed to benefit women at the expense of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:49 PM
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It confirmed my belief that marriage in the modern era is a scam for men and primarily benefits women. My father worked hard to provide for the family and made enough to allow my mother to stay at home and raise the kids, which she loved. Apparently though after 38 years of marriage my now 60 year old father wasn’t fucking my 58 year old mother hard enough anymore and according to my mother she deserved more, so she initiated divorce proceedings. Naturally a judge decided that since my father co…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:36 PM
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It started in college when I actually started putting effort into pursuing women and learning what seemed to work and what didn’t. It was cemented when my parents divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 11:42 AM
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Feminism holds exactly zero benefit for men. The only possible outcome of feminist policy and ideology is harm to the needs wants and desires of men. So yes I’d consider any man who supports feminism to be at best misguided and at worst hostile to me.
/r/MensRights29/04/26 05:52 PM
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Please research what apostrophes are and how they work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:06 PM
5

Theat to whom exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 01:16 AM
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What’s funny is that from the title I thought this was going to be a post about modern women wanting to retain the traditional privileges of their gender roles while expecting none of the obligations, but no it’s actually just lamenting that men don’t behave more like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:12 PM
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How can they practice being interviewed for a demanding job if they’re not dating women?
/r/MensRights24/04/26 01:27 PM
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Well, perhaps we could start by examining the social and legal environment during times where more men were getting married and starting families, the ostensible end goal for many men in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:41 PM
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Seemingly their job is to entrench the problems that men have and prevent solutions to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:49 PM
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Literally. Men can manipulate gravity to cause photons to curve around them without ever coming into contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:53 PM
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Men are more selective about committing to women today because commitment in the 21st century doesn’t provide remotely the same benefits and upsides to men as it has historically, but still carries many of the historic risks and drawbacks. Committing to a woman in the 21st century as a man requires him to sacrifice his power and autonomy in a way that was never required before and in my mind is one reason why proportionally fewer men are getting married than at basically any other time before.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:52 PM
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That’s strange, you seem to have flip flopped. Before you were indicating that most men don’t view casual sex as the ultimate ego boost because other men keep calling you a misandrist for suggesting it. Now you’re saying that most men do view it as an ego boost and that men don’t like women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 11:03 PM
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Do you often enter conversations with a general statement unrelated to what was being discussed?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:24 PM
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That’s interesting, I don’t recall ever saying that to you. Perhaps you’re thinking of another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 09:58 PM
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Because you’re choosing to let them have commitment free sex with you. I know that you’re saying the choice is mostly about your hormones, but how often do your hormones compel you to fuck a hobo? Or an old guy? Men feel desired when women offer them casual sex because it’s proof that they have some baseline level of desirability.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 07:53 PM
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You’re wondering why men find the idea of having commitment free sex with a woman desirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 07:26 PM
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Finally, someone with the courage and fortitude to call out that most privileged class, the mentally and/or socially disabled.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 05:33 PM
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they would shut up and find a sex worker to pay. I fucking wish. Unfortunately some of us don’t live in areas with such an enlightened attitude towards prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:46 PM
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When men were more likely to be needed rather than desired, proportionally more men found the kind of relationships they desired. Now that men are desired rather than needed, proportionally fewer men find the kind of relationships they desire. If it were true that being desired is better than being needed, then certainly it should be easy to recognize that for many, being needed is better than being rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 05:40 PM
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I literally never see women commenting "you have a short dick" to anyone on any of the platforms. “Small dick energy” gets thrown around all the time by women on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:51 PM
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I’d rather we go back to teaching women to be better wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 11:32 AM
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2nd comment from you in this chain and you’re already resorting to imagining the OP as an incel. Weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:02 PM
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Could it be that the manosphere and the Red Pill fuel MISANDRY? posts examples of feminist misandry About as responsible for it as feminism is for misogyny I’d say.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:38 PM
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I don’t strongly agree with the premise, but the fact that romance TV and movies are being more strictly regulated in China does seem like a relevant indicator that it could be having a negative impact on people’s ability to form relationships and by extension have children. https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202411/1323805.shtml Their government seems a lot more data and evidence driven than the government here does, so ignore them at your own peril.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 12:27 PM
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Sounds ideal. I’ve always supported legalizing sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 09:41 PM
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Interesting suggestion, but like I said earlier I think I’d prefer to remain where I am now and be an advocate for the kinds of changes I’d like to see enacted here. So I guess to answer your question, yes, converting to a religion I don’t believe in and moving into an Amish community does seem like a sacrifice I’d be uninterested in making.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:53 PM
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Everyone knows religion is just a way to justify power. I don’t consider myself religious, but I also don’t think this conclusion is nearly as self evident and widely accepted as you seem to think that it is. What other countries do you think resemble the western world circa 1900? I don’t think there are any, which to draw this back to the question you started this thread with, is another reason why I don’t feel compelled to emigrate from where I was born.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 07:14 PM
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I don’t think that my ideal society would look like contemporary Iran because I am not religious, let alone a Muslim. It would probably look more like America (or basically any Western country) before world war 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 06:58 PM
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Because I’d rather focus my efforts on bringing the country and community I was born in into alignment with my values than migrating elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 03:30 PM
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I wouldn’t say so. There’s a variety of policies I find important. Laws regulating the role of men and women in society are just one topic I feel is of greater importance than the health of the economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:38 AM
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Well to give you an idea of the sort of policies I had in mind, we could start by repealing the 19th amendment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 01:36 PM
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The role of men and women in society is fundamental to daily life, even more so than the health of the economy. I’d gladly be poorer if it meant a return to traditional gender roles and dynamics. It’s simply a more important issue in my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:33 PM
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Yes, I’d prefer to live in a patriarchal society.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:00 PM
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Thread is flared “question for redpill” so: No, I think that male struggles with the modern dating market are simply the result of the shifting demand curve for men generally. Men are less needed than ever before and so more men than ever before are getting locked out of dating and romance due to a lack of women who want anything to do with them. I also don’t believe that it’s possible to increase demand for men without decreasing the autonomy of women, which is why I also don’t believe that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:05 PM
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Wow, a new study from the University of Toronto psychology department? How have more people not read this?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:45 PM
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Dudes are unhappier being single than women are. Generalizations for me but not for thee ahh comment. Pot, meet kettle.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:37 PM
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I disagree. Perhaps an attractive man is unlikely to end up in a relationship with an ugly woman who doesn’t really have anything else going on, but it would surprise me to see an average looking guy end up in that relationship. Again, my perspective is that men seem much more likely to tolerate dating across and down than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 01:14 PM
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TRP is to Judaism as TBP is to Gentile. I always knew we were the chosen people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:03 PM
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Yes and no. There’s very little that having money doesn’t help with. Sex and dating are no exception. I feel like it’s easier for me to get dates now than it was 10 years ago when I had just finished my undergraduate degree and was basically broke. That said, having more money doesn’t magically produce more high quality women, and the kind of woman that I’d actually be interested in building a ltr with is basically a unicorn, so while the odds of me getting a date and having sex are perhaps high…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 02:49 PM
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Accounting undergraduate then MBA. Used it to get my CPA license too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 01:57 PM
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No, at least not universally. I identify myself as redpill here and I’m pretty thoroughly middle class, along with being highly educated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 11:05 AM
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Not sure how you’ve arrived at that conclusion from what I wrote. In my perspective, women prefer to date up, can tolerate dating “across” and rarely if ever accept dating down.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 06:36 PM
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Hot women often date hot men. Hot women sometimes date average looking men with other assets. Hot women don’t often date average looking men without other assets. In my perspective, women prefer to date up, can tolerate dating “across” and rarely if ever accept dating down. Somebody’s rank in the dating hierarchy isn’t just a factor of their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 06:19 PM
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How is what’s happening in Ukraine a “war” if Ukrainians are choosing separatism? It’s more like trying to disengage from the people who seek to overpower you by limiting your human rights. Can’t really be a “war” if only one side is under attack and at risk of losing territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 04:55 PM
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Again though, he shared an opinion and even elaborated on why he holds the opinion, and all you’ve done is throw insults at him, seemingly because you personally disagree with those opinions. Do I think that a man who lies about his height to increase his likelihood of getting laid is a rapist? No. The OP clearly has a lot of opinions that I don’t share. Does having a different opinion than me prove that the OP is just insecure/an incel/XYZ tired insult? Also no. They might be, but simply disagr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:30 PM
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That’s just how things go here. The second a man posts an opinion that’s unpopular but not “disprovable” on account of being subjective, people just fall back to calling him an insecure, incel, XYZ insult since otherwise they’d have to do something difficult like empathize with a perspective or idea that they personally find distasteful. Easier to just use a tired insult and claim unassailable moral superiority than it is to grapple with a difficult idea, ya know?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:22 PM
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So…men are supposed to be “honest in the first place” and tell women on the first date every possible sex act they’ll ever expect from her? But you also find it unfair if a woman is expected to disclose her sexual history? Why the double standard in disclosure?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:58 AM
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Okay, and if she doesn’t want to do them, she can leave and find someone else. If she doesn’t want to do them and he’s not happy about it, he can leave and find someone else. This seems like a non-issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:48 AM
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Funny how if men are disadvantaged you believe it’s fine for unfairness to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:43 AM
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I like the cut of your jib, sailor.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 12:50 PM
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1: the labor market being dynamic doesn’t challenge my assertion that female participation in the labor market when previously it was de facto or even du jure disallowed comes at the expense of male participation in the labor market by either driving up the competition for jobs, decreasing demand for labor and thus wages, or both. 2: what I want or care about is irrelevant to my assertion that expanding the franchise diminishes the political power of those who already have it. 3: …it didn’t? I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:03 PM
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competing with women for economic opportunities is the same as competing with men for them. This doesn’t change the fact that it increases the pool of potential competitors. Again, zero sum game where men only stand to lose what women gain. You get to feel good about living in a country where the principle of equal franchise is the law of the land. I also get to not feel good about it too. There’s nothing inherently or empirically beneficial about this for men and like I pointed out before, dilu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:54 PM
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Doesn’t really dispel my notion that the distribution of power in society is a zero sum game though does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:59 PM
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I oppose gender equality because I don’t stand to gain from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:44 PM
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We must continue to do more to dispel the idea of a zero-sum game in which women are the only beneficiaries of a gender-equal world.” This will be difficult because it is a zero-sum game in which women are the only beneficiaries of a gender-equal world. Seriously, how do men benefit from having to compete with women for economic opportunity? How do men benefit from women having greater political power? How do men benefit from women having greater autonomy? Realistically men stand to gain little …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 03:50 PM
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Those men don’t count in her mind because it undermines the narrative she’s trying to build.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:28 PM
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But if a woman raises a problem, a different rule suddenly appears. She has to say it politely. She has to stay calm. She has to manage her tone. She can't show disrespect. Women have the same rights that any man does to act however they’d like towards others. Your entire post is a complaint over a self imposed problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 02:18 PM
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I also am not lazy enough to age and die.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:31 PM
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Assuming that the other factors of my birth would remain the same (location, date, family) then yes absolutely. I’m not lying when I say that I believe women have it easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 05:45 PM
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My company pays tens of thousands of dollars per month to rent a conference space, bring in guest speakers, and provide drinks and catering to female staff for a monthly “mentorship workshop”. It’s fucking bullshit
/r/MensRights06/03/26 07:13 PM
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It used to not be like that because women needed to be with a man to survive basically. Being with Average Joe who works at a gas station or whatever was a lot more appealing to women when that was their only avenue to having a house to live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 03:09 PM
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Why are you asking women for approval to disagree with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 07:04 PM
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It’s on the floor if you are hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 06:22 PM
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Odds are that I’d prefer to date the 21 year old. I’m not getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 06:20 PM
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There’s nobody crossing the Mexican or Canadian borders anymore Mission accomplished
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:21 PM
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Because our current modes of production are not sustainable and rely on a dwindling supply of natural resources. Do you really think that the human population could have exceeded 8 billion without exploiting the stored energy of organic hydrocarbons? Those resources won’t last forever and when they run out the human population will inevitably crash with it. Might not happen within your lifetime or mine, but that still doesn’t make the current modes of production sustainable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 01:19 PM
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You post variations of this thread like twice per week.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 04:22 PM
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Yeah, your job is simply to pedantically point out the etymological differences between words commonly used interchangeably, not provide evidence!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:43 PM
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In the modern professional sphere women are simply competitors to men, only they have an institutional thumb on the scale in their favor with gender based hiring quotas, which very much are a thing.We have to outcompete them despite the structural advantages conferred on them. That creates a rather adversarial atmosphere. You’re going to choose not to believe me about the hiring quotas but in my career I’ve worked as an accountant in the architecture/engineering space. All of the accounting team…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:06 PM
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Reasonable. At least this would put men and women closer to an even footing with respect to their right to choose for themselves if they wish to become the parent to a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:16 PM
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Why do you believe that men are the only people with agency? Women can decline to have sex if they wish to avoid the risk of pregnancy. And they can choose to seek an abortion if they’re concerned about the potential economic burden of a child. As it stands right now, women are being granted rights and freedoms that men are not, and to me that is wrong. If women have the right to terminate a pregnancy then men deserve an equivalent right, and since men can’t compel a woman to terminate a pregnan…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 09:13 PM
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That means a patriarchy did exist. Emphasis on “did” here. Historically in a patriarchal society women generally wouldn’t be able to participate in politics, pursue independent careers or higher education, initiate divorce, hold property, or enter into contractual arrangements. To my knowledge, all of these things are available to women today (at least in the country I live in), so it doesn’t seem accurate to say that we live in a patriarchal system any longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:50 PM
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If we actually lived in a patriarchal society though none of that would have mattered and women still wouldn’t have the right to vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:21 PM
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Then why do women pressure their boyfriends to propose? Wouldn’t they prefer to avoid a marriage contract entirely if being married provided them with no benefits? As the another poster pointed out, you yourself are married. Was this an act of charity on your part?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:34 AM
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Marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:56 AM
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Take it up with OP. I’m replying to her premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:33 PM
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That doesn’t change the fact that your claim that a woman with a height standard is “literally the exactly the same” as a man with a weight standard is untrue. It is true that people are allowed to have whatever standards they wish, but not all standards are the same. And that’s the crux of this entire thread. Men often have standards that are within another’s ability to control, such as weight. Women often have standards that are beyond another’s ability to control, such as height. Both may be …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:25 PM
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Are you? Dying your hair and getting tattoos are also the result of individual action. Height is not. That’s the difference I was pointing out in my original reply. You claimed that a height standard is “literally exactly the same” as a weight standard, and I explained why to my understanding, they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 07:01 PM
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Not really, because height is largely beyond an individual’s ability to control, while weight is largely within an individual’s ability to control.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 06:45 PM
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If women were into men, there wouldn’t be so many women being side chicks and humiliating themselves for a man, because they’d happily find a different man who’d make her the center of his romantic attention. But women generally aren’t into men, so they’re happier being humiliated by being the side chick to a high status man. (Hypergamy)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:42 PM
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It really is frustrating, and undermines the purpose of the subreddit to the point that participating here feels pointless most of the time. So many posters here will assign a huge number of ideas and opinions to you as soon as you state an opinion they don’t personally like, even if those other opinions they’ve assigned to you have nothing to do with the topic at hand and that you’ve never mentioned before. The blatant lack of any sort of logical consistency from many posters here makes the ide…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 02:34 PM
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I don’t base my beliefs on what’s mainstream and popular, I base them on what I believe is right. I don’t care if there’s never going to be a popular movement based on my specific beliefs, it won’t make me stop believing in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 08:41 PM
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And suggesting that we teach girls to respect boys will continue to be viewed as grave apostasy to the modern secular religion of liberalism.
/r/MensRights13/12/25 03:42 PM
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I’ve never denied that I’d rather live in a patriarchal society.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 08:36 PM
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It’s kind of funny how people almost short circuit when you say that you don’t want to get married. Usually they’ll counter with something like “oh you just haven’t met the right person yet”, completely misunderstanding me. It’s not that I don’t want to get married. It’s that I want to not get married. There’s nothing valuable about getting married in the 21st century that couldn’t be gained from a committed but otherwise legally unrecognized relationship. Marriage is basically only downside. If…
/r/MensRights10/12/25 02:38 PM
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This is basically just the Overton window. Simply by remaining consistent in what they want, male perspectives and positions that were once considered ordinary and moderate are today considered “radical extremist alt right reactionary” or whatever. I just want the same opportunities and that my grandfathers had, so to the progressive left I’m an arch-conservative fascist, even though up until just recently I would have been an ordinary guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:38 PM
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Sure, they want domestic labor, we can all see that. But it's deeper, they want submissive women. Women trained to respond to men in specific ways, who know how to please them, to gaze at them like they've hung the moon, to play weak and "stupid" just so the man feels smart and needed. They're desperate for the kind of relationships their fathers or grandfathers had, ones where women adored them just for existing, more than for anything else. I agree entirely. I want what my grandfathers had, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 08:17 PM
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I think that early hunter gatherer societies were probably more egalitarian than later agriculture based civilizations, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 12:08 AM
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That shit ain’t sexy. To you perhaps. And even understandably so I’d say. But to some, feeling powerful and in charge is sexy. To your point about patriarchy, and certain men claiming it to be a natural part of the human condition, I’d agree that framing it that way is a bit nonsensical. After all, humans evolved into what they are today in small semi-nomadic groups of no more than 1 or 2 hundred individuals. However, when humans began organizing into complex civilizations based on agriculture, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 11:45 PM
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Cool, glad that works out for you. Are you by chance a man interested in dating women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:47 PM
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Bro you are wasting your time. They’ll all say that you don’t have to pay for dates, and that they really actually love going 50/50 on dates. And if you tell them that in your experience, not insisting on paying for everything leads to worse outcomes and lack of follow up dates, they’ll ignore you or call you an incel. It’s not just that the women on this sub don’t understand how it works for men, it’s that they want to not understand how it works for men. You pointing out the obvious to them wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:07 PM
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Doesn’t really matter. If you present as a heterosexual male they’ll still pass on your application for vague reasons like “culture” or “ personality”
/r/MensRights06/12/25 07:02 PM
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Well his mistake is caring at all what someone who self identifies as progressive thinks he should be doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 12:58 PM
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I don’t believe that we can. If two groups have goals and aims that are diametrically opposed, compromise becomes difficult, if not outright impossible. If one group says “x should be illegal” and the other says “x should be legal” neither side is likely to be satisfied with a compromise solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 12:20 AM
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Okay, does this mean that Nietzsche proved that god is dead? The study of philosophy might not be your cup of tea.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 09:18 PM
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Yes, that is a form of relationship. The couple could choose to raise a child however they see fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 02:09 PM
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This user is a straight up misandrist with a massive chip on her shoulder. Also hilarious how she brings up the “fat acceptance movement” but still uses a man as an example of entitlement. The fat acceptance movement was invented by women for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 12:44 PM
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Fucking this man. If you’re not attracted to fat people then that eliminates the majority of possible partners right off the bat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/25 12:39 PM
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Lmao’ing at the fact that all the top replies by women aren’t actually refuting your data, they’re just saying how they don’t like your comparison between female access to abortion and the lack of an equivalent male recourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 09:29 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 09:40 PM
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Nice strawman. I’ll bet that more pro-life people consider themselves against abortion because they view it as a murderous act than the number who view themselves as pro-life just to fuck over women for having sex. Curious, what do you think you accomplish when you aggressively mischaracterize the motivations of those you disagree with? I’ve always believed that you can more effectively oppose someone if you actually understand their positions instead of making up convenient caricatures about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 08:47 PM
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would you marry a prostitute if it was legal i didnt say a word about legal ???
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:29 PM
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Pointing out that your comment doesn’t make sense. You asked if that user would marry a prostitute IF it were legal. To my knowledge, this is already legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 03:01 PM
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It already is legal to marry a prostitute though?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 02:56 PM
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If he were a man unwilling to have contact with women, why would he have replied to your original post in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/25 01:17 PM
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If you interpret even light scrutiny of your ideas as unfair word twisting and nitpicking, perhaps your ideas aren’t as sound as you first thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 12:13 AM
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The phone would have continued being a phone had you not chosen to drop a cannon on it, as you put it. I’m struggling to understand your reasoning here. Someone who has died also does not exist. Yet we still charge people with the crime of murder (or manslaughter) for causing the death of someone else, even though as you put it, the dead person no longer exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 11:58 PM
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So "legal paternal surrender" should come by default with a permanent restraining order. Your terms are acceptable, as long as it moves men in the direction of having some kind of equivalent recourse to the effects of an unplanned or unwanted pregnancy as women have. Also, I’d be remiss not to point out that your statement of In the case of abortion, no child exists. Is HIGHLY subjective and controversial. I consider myself pro-choice, and have no major concerns about medical abortions, but to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 09:42 PM
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Feminism was necessary Lost me already
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 10:28 PM
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Why aren't you eating dogs for protein? Are they inedible? Or is it just not common in our culture Well, I’m fairly certain that it’s contradicted by law in the United States. Other than that though I’d say that I have no major concerns about eating dogs raised for food compared to eating any other livestock animal. On the other hand, I’m not aware of any legal statutes that would force you to do a greater share of the housework in a relationship, so to me your example of eating dogs seems irrel…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 04:14 PM
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I don’t know what to tell you Perhaps because you don’t actually have anything to say. I’ve asked you multiple times to explain whether you have the same agency and self-possession as any man, and you can’t seem to find an answer. As a man, society expects that I work towards getting married to a woman one day, but I don’t believe that getting married to a woman is in my best interests, so I defy societal expectations and choose not to do it. Are you not capable of making similar decisions?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:52 PM
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Again though, are you not an adult woman with the same agency as any man? If you don’t want to do the housework, then simply don’t do it. Be the change that you want to see in the world. but society Are you trying to be in a romantic relationship with society? Or are you trying to be in a romantic relationship with a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:36 PM
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Are you not an adult woman with agency? If you don’t want to do the housework, then don’t do it. I literally don’t understand what you find frustrating or unfair here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 03:14 PM
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Only if the women we allow to immigrate are at least a 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 12:09 AM
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I don’t think much would change, and I think that a man’s ability to display wealth would still be one of the most important factors in his ability to find romantic partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 09:01 PM
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From the perspective of evolutionary biology, the mating system that most benefits the male population is monogamy, because it allows a greater number of males to reproduce and pass on their genes. The mating system that most benefits the female population is polygamy, because it allows a greater number of females to acquire the genes and resources of a smaller number of very fit males.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 08:16 PM
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Hence why I don’t believe that we live in a patriarchal society, that’s the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 10:23 PM
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Correct. If we actually lived in a patriarchal society, why would women be allowed the same rights and freedoms as men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 08:14 PM
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Women are able to succeed in spite of the patriarchy To me this seems more like solid evidence that we don’t actually inhabit a patriarchal society like you and other feminists like to believe. If we actually lived in a patriarchal society, would women be allowed the many rights freedoms and privileges they enjoy today? From my understanding of the meaning and history of the word patriarchy, the answer is obviously “no”.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 07:53 PM
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Granted, I no longer think that I’ll ever want to get married, but back when I did, one of my more niche disqualifiers was a woman with tattoos. Even a small and fairly inconspicuous one would have been enough for me to flag that woman as “not wife material”.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 10:35 PM
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1: I didn’t call you a name 2: These are the only sentences I can recall reading from you. Based on this limited information, it seems like you don’t actually enjoy spending time with your male friends, which is why I observed that it seems like you’re kind of a shitty friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 08:01 PM
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In real life there's no point going to a party if the opposite gender is not going. Hanging out with same sex friends gets boring quick This sounds more like you being a shitty friend than anything. I actually enjoy spending time and partying with my male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 06:59 PM
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Because they’re sexually attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 07:44 PM
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It’s kind of hard to humanize you guys bc a lot o you are often selfish and lack empathy. Good thing the same can’t be said of women, right gentlemen?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 09:50 PM
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It’s always funny to me how people like you think that the only answer for why someone doesn’t identify as “left” is because of Russian disinformation campaigns. Maybe I just think your ideas are bad and don’t benefit me. But please, one more lecture might just do the trick!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 09:50 PM
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Unless you can provide some kind of data to support your claim, I find the idea that women are more likely to initiate divorce proceedings simply because their husband has fled the country to be a laughable perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 12:48 PM
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My guess would be that it’s at least partially due to the fact that for men, being married is becoming more and more of a status symbol. To be married as a man in the 21st century shows that he has enough going for him to convince at least one woman to select for him. Fewer men are getting married today than at any point in living memory, making marriage more of an exclusive status symbol for those men that do end up married.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 12:43 PM
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It seems like this idea would cut both ways though. Which is OP’s entire premise, that more and more men are landing on the opinion that feminism does nothing for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:38 PM
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Why should that make me or any man want to be a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 05:25 PM
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I feel like this attitude is one reason why proportioanlly fewer men than ever before are identifying as liberal, but I’m sure that it has nothing at all to do with the idea that feminism has nothing to offer men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:52 PM
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What’s your point? Seems unrelated to anything I mentioned above. Even if it were true that “most men are fine with assortative mating” like you suggest, how would that fact make feminism more or less beneficial to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 04:36 PM
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What do you suggest that blue pillers and feminists “offer” to men? As far as I’m concerned, there’s nothing they can offer to men without compromising on some core value. I mean just look at the replies, the top blue response is that men can cry in a feminist society. I don’t want permission to cry, I want power. Can feminism provide it for me? My experience and perspective suggests that it cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 02:34 PM
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I agree, mostly because I don’t believe that it’s possible for a human being to perform a truly altruistic act. Humans are rationally self interested. Even something like donating money to charity doesn’t seem like a truly altruistic act because the act of donating resources to a charitable cause is itself rewarding to the giver, even if that reward is intangible.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:13 PM
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Again, you’re asking for a debate over a subjective value that you’ve a priori declared superior. It’s like starting a thread saying “debate: people who disagree with my opinions are bad because my opinions are good”.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 08:54 PM
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debate: I hate men who identify as redpill because I have different values than they do Not really much to debate here is there?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 04:59 PM
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Most men don’t view an aging woman already past her prime deciding to give the “husband material” man a date for a change as her doing him a favor. Get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 06:01 PM
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I’ve had my fun, I’ll do you a favor and let you support me now that I’m ready to settle down It’s funny because I knew this was written by a woman even before I checked your flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 01:01 PM
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Nobody seriously contends that women shouldn’t be able to work or have the same opportunities First day here?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 01:42 PM
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Maybe you think this because you don’t actually have as many positive qualities as you think you do, and so if you’re not giving the man in your life sexual satisfaction, there’s actually not much of a reason for him to want to be around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 02:06 PM
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Plenty don’t. Your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 02:03 PM
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I think even short term flings are deserving of princess treatment I buy food on first meet if that’s the date In return, all of my needs are met, I get… sex Whoa there Prince Charming, where’d you learn moves like that? Buying a woman food because you want to have sex with her? Wow, wish I had thought of that. That’s some next level princess treatment. To answer your question, I’d consider a woman worthy of “princess treatment” if I actually want a long term relationship with her. That means we…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:47 PM
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Was "the juice" ever worth it for women throughout the history? Gosh I don’t know, was having food and shelter ever worth it? Because for a very long time, that’s what being married vs unmarried meant for a lot of women. More women used to get married and stay married in part because it was expected that women wouldn’t own property or control assets. In a lot of cultures, the family of a woman paid a dowry to the family of the man she was to marry, in part because the family of the woman was rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:10 PM
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This is a good example, because I think that it illustrates the difference in our worldview quite well. To me it seems like people like you are a lot more comfortable with taking things on faith. I prefer to rely on evidence. So it is my opinion that there is no god, but it’s a fact that the existence of god can’t be proven. Similar to your opinion that there is an objective morality, and the fact that it can’t be proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:35 PM
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there is an objective morality How could we prove this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:26 PM
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My statement wasn’t an opinion though. It’s a fact that there are no universal and objective opinions. Which is why I asked if you could prove me wrong by providing a universally accepted opinion derived from empirical evidence. If you can, I’ll happily admit that I was wrong. Since you can’t, I won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 01:24 PM
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How do you figure? Are you aware of any universal objective opinions derived from empirical evidence? I’m not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:36 PM
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You don't get to tell me what I get to tell people. Hmm…yet here you are telling me what you think I should be able to tell you. Rules for me and not for thee I guess. No one cares what you believe. You care enough to reply to me telling me that you disagree with my beliefs. Abortion is not murder. That's a fact. Can’t say that I agree. There's no such thing as legal abortion either. Abortion is abortion. Men can't get pregnant. Yes because the law doesn’t grant men the same rights and freedoms …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:24 PM
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how can it be possible that someone would think differently than I do?? It always surprises me that this surprises people. The sheer hubris to think that your ideas are beyond scrutiny. There is quite literally no human opinion that could be considered universal and objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:19 PM
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We have a different understanding of what it means to be responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 01:09 PM
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You don't believe abortion is murder. You don’t get to tell other people what their beliefs are. For my part, I actually do believe that abortion is a murderous act. I still believe that women should have access to medical abortion methods. I also believe that men should access to legal abortion methods. (Not a murderous act, but betraying low character).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 11:44 AM
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Men should be responsible, women shouldn’t have to be, got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 11:40 AM
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Sounds like I wasn’t using the technical economic definition of trade, but in my mind that’s okay. Trade, exchange, sale, bargain, all seem sufficiently accurate within the context of this conversation. ... so you don't find sex trafficking icky? Can you point out where this was said by me? I’m guessing that you cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 09:19 PM
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I’m not sure that I’m following. In what way do the situations described above not constitute a trade? If you over sex for groceries, you’re proposing a trade. If I offer money for sex, I’m proposing a trade. I hope I don’t have to justify the “ick” for. You don’t have to justify any “isk”s to anyone because an “ick” is a subjective value held by an individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 08:58 PM
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You definitely can make that offer though,and depending on the store / person you make that offer to, they might even accept. They don’t have to of course, but you can still offer. Isn’t prostitution much the same? A man can offer to give money to a woman in exchange for sex. She can decline if she doesn’t think it’s a good deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:58 PM
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That’s true of literally every industry though. When’s the last time you did a thorough audit of the entire supply chain of a product you’ve purchased? Even if you buy a bar of chocolate with a nice little “fair trade” sticker on it, how do you know that the people who worked to produce it are legal/sober/of age/willing?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 06:51 PM
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It’s disingenuous because they don’t like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 11:19 AM
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Personally, I don’t really think that it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 07:50 PM
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They’ve provided an equal amount of evidence as you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 05:37 PM
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Because women have been liberated from their traditional expectations while men have been liberated from their traditional privileges. If you were a woman, why wouldn’t you choose to go on a date with a man who’s happy to dote on you with his money over the progressive egalitarian who wants to make you his equal partner in everything (including the bills)?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 11:35 AM
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Yes, actually. Having a very beautiful girlfriend is an elite status symbol. People will literally respect you more and treat you better if they know that you have a beautiful girlfriend or wife. To me, the best thing a woman can be is beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:01 PM
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If only it were so simple here…
/r/MensRights30/09/25 11:53 AM
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You are 1000% correct. We are all on the same team. We are all being exploited. The divisions between us only serve to enrich the already wealthy and powerful. So that means you give up fighting the culture war, right? I’m being a little facetious because the problem with this kind of rhetoric is that it’s disingenuous because people fight for cultural issues because they want to, not because they’re being divided by external powers. Just saying “hey we need to unite to fight the real oppressors…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 12:17 PM
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I disagree. Modern society, with all its technology and conveniences, is still occupied by primitive biological humans. A baby from 100,000 years ago could be raised to fit in with modern society just like a baby born today could be raised to fit in with a society from 100,000 years ago. Paternity uncertainty doesn’t diminish the real value of the parent-child relationship they have. Again, I would disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:39 PM
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Women necessarily must invest massive amounts of resources into a pregnancy, men do not. Women can always be certain that a child they are pregnant with is theirs, men cannot. Because pregnancy is a major investment for a woman to make, she has massive pressure to seek the best possible mate for her child. A man who can mate with many women is a man who many women agree is worth the investment that a possible pregnancy entails. A woman who can mate with many men doesn’t really signify any partic…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:23 PM
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Men and women are different in very meaningful ways, most especially in how their biology plays into reproduction. If you seriously can’t comprehend how these differences could shape each gender’s view of sex and sexuality then it’s simply pointless to even try to discuss this with you. I mean seriously, you really think that women being forced to endure 9 months of pregnancy isn’t a meaningful difference to how men experience reproduction? Wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:47 PM
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Just a long winded way of saying that women are socialists on economic matters but libertarians on romantic matters
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 09:37 PM
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And why more and more men today are fighting for the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:22 PM
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Where did this bizarre idea come from, that beyond money, society somehow owes you women’s bodies too? Probably from out grandfather’s generation and before.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:41 PM
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They had to ban “nude dresses” from the Cannes film festival because wealthy celebrity women kept choosing to show up in them.
/r/MensRights20/09/25 12:24 PM
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It’s a debate sub, not a dating sub. I post here to dunk on people’s logical fallacies, not to get laid. You really think I’d talk about female hypergamy and evolutionary psychology on a first date where I was trying to hit it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:45 AM
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If you read his post carefully, you might notice that he said each successive generation was being taught that this was the right thing to do, not necessarily arriving at this conclusion on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 12:38 PM
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I’m not really allowed to post on reddit what I think about this topic, but suffice it to say that I disagree with your premise that men being the breadwinner of the family is a bad thing.
/r/MensRights05/09/25 11:58 AM
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But in the context of natural selection and survival of the fittest, both fail to pass their genes to the next generation, so there certainly is some level of equivalence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 09:01 PM
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Why do you think that? Reading your post is how I arrived at the conclusion that I disagree with your premise, which is why I made my original reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:32 PM
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I’m sorry you’ve interpreted my message as a personal insult. Disagreeing with the premise of your thread doesn’t “prove I engage in OPs without reading them”, but if you choose to interpret it as such then clearly there’s not much I can do to change your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:25 PM
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If it doesn’t apply to you, why do you interpret it as an insult directed at you? You’re not even flaired as blue pilled. And quite honestly a lot of it is likely evolutionarily baked in some fashion. Okay, on that we agree, but like I pointed out in my original reply, we disagree on the definition and scope of the women are wonderful effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:14 PM
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It’s probably confounding to blue pillers who think that men and women are the same and just happen to look different, but like most any aspect of human psychology, it almost certainly derives from evolutionary pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:09 PM
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First let’s define what “wonderful” typically means within the “women are wonderful” context. It typically is referring to “warm and nurturing,” or “social cohesion,” or “feeling safe”/not being scared of them. Or generally other things like that. No that’s not how I understand or define the “women are wonderful” effect. I understand it as a phenomenon where people are more likely to perceive women as having positive traits in general than they are to perceive men as having positive traits in ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:55 PM
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Blue pill women at best don't respect men and at worst actively despise them. OG blue pill dehumanizes and infantilizes men while theorizing how women can best get resources out of men ("marriage"). More recently, a lot of self-proclaimed blue pill women are actually black pillers who deeply despise men. This is not a group upon which you want to base your viewpoints of women on as a whole. Look I can do it too!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 11:45 AM
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Do you not find value in things that are useful?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 02:47 PM
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Because “Aww babe sorry to hear about your rough day at work. You’re right, your boss is such an asshole” and other such validations are more likely to lead to sex than “I don’t care about the politics at your office job”.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 12:03 PM
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Okay, but that still doesn’t make peacocks objectively beautiful. Also, and I realize that I’m being pedantic here, but evolution doesn’t “focus” on particular attributes of an organism any more than gravity has a “focus” on attracting mass.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:51 PM
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it is objectively the case that their bodies are more evolved for beauty No I disagree. My belief is that the body of a peacock evolved to signal reproductive fitness to potential mates, just like any animal that reproduces sexually. Perceptions of beauty are incidental to the beholder.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:46 PM
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Debate women’s bodies are more beautiful Why are you trying to debate a subjective value? That’s like having a debate over what the most beautiful painting is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 12:37 PM
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Statistically you are an outlier in this respect
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 01:53 PM
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For those who are unfamiliar, “value-add” is business speak My personal and romantic life is not a business. What kind of an insane psychopath would describe the conception of a child as a “value added” process?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 11:39 AM
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Sounds like women benefit more from marriage than men do then.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:30 PM
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I’m okay with inequality because people are unequal. Not everyone can be a brain surgeon, so I’m comfortable with brain surgeons being paid more than a burger flipper. I still don’t understand why you seem so upset about all of this. Why do you keep trying to put words into my mouth? It’s easier to talk to people when you don’t pretend they’ve said things that they haven’t, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 11:26 AM
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I said that I’m comfortable with inequality between people, not that I like it. That doesn’t mean I “don’t care if someone steps on” me. If someone is paid $10 an hour, how does that mean I’m personally treating them like dirt? I’m not their employer. I don’t understand why you’ve become so upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:28 PM
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Okay, sounds like there’s no good reason to get married then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:55 PM
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Not sure I follow your reasoning. Why do you think that being employed is equivalent to liking being treated like dirt?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:39 PM
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Just because you have a dick doesn’t mean everything bought during the marriage is owned entirely by you. My anatomy has nothing to do with my opinion on the matter. If a stay at home husband divorced his wealthy wife after the couple purchased a home with her income, I’d still think that he shouldn’t be entitled to an equal or equitable share of the house purchased by his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 04:07 PM
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On that we disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:43 PM
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It used to be a trade. As in “I promise to support and love you when you are old and grey if you support and love me when you are young and beautiful”. It was probably a more reassuring trade when marriage was more traditional and divorce wasn’t widely socially acceptable. Modern marriage is obsolete. At least women divorce their husband and take half of his stuff after they “hit the wall”. What do men get out of a modern marriage? Because the only benefits I can think of are slightly preferenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:20 PM
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Is it fair that someone makes 200$ an hour while others barely crack 10$/hour? Yes, because they both agreed to do the job for the specified rate of pay. Also, I’m very comfortable with inequality between people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:08 PM
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How come a woman without a career who divorces a wealthy man gets more in alimony than a woman without a career who divorces a poor man? Both were making equal contributions to their equal relationships, but the wife of the wealthy man gets more than the wife of the poor man despite making the same contributions as the wife of the poor man. Why do you think the wife of a wealthy man deserves more than the wife of a poor man?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:53 AM
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Wouldn’t this be just as true as saying that female survivors of domestic abuse choose to be beaten and abused by their husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:42 AM
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No point if it only serves to do me harm.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:00 PM
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Im not sure why you expect feminism to do anything for men. I don’t, which is why I have always been vehemently opposed to the idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:57 AM
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I’m confident that even if access to abortion was legal in all 50 states feminist leader Jessica Valenti would find some other reason to think it was obscene that men are unhappy about falling behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:47 AM
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Quick Google search: The breasts are two prominences located on the upper ventral region of the torso among humans and other primates. Both sexes develop breasts from the same embryological tissues. PS: what do you think your nipples are attached to?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:26 AM
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Breasts are something men can’t have because males don’t develop mammary glands I don’t think you know what a breast is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:10 AM
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I think you’re struggling here so I’ll help: Something being unusual doesn’t make it unnatural. Something being immoral doesn’t make it unnatural. You claimed pedophilia and incest are unnatural based on the immorality Literally where have I asserted these things? Link me to the reply where you think I tried to make these claims. Seriously, I’m very curious as to how you’ve managed to stumble into thinking that was my position here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 12:04 AM
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lol, no I’d much prefer to be single my entire life than to settle for being in a relationship with a woman I’m not attracted to. Not sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 07:51 PM
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Naturalness has nothing to do with morality. That’s been my position this entire time you moron. Did you seriously fail to grasp that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:26 PM
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But by taking the bait, you leave yourself in a weaker position. When OP says “a, b, c, d things are all equally unnatural” and you reply with “hey, c and d things aren’t equally moral as a and b things” you’re implicitly conceding OP’s point that a, b, c, and d things are equally unnatural.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:07 PM
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If abnormal sexual orientations were an invention of the human species I’d agree with you that they were unnatural, but I’m not familiar with any evidence to suggest that this would be true. In fact, the evidence that I’m familiar with suggests that abnormal sexual orientations can be found across numerous animal species.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:02 PM
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Come on now, can we please try and be logically consistent? OP is just trying to create a “gotcha” moment by comparing something unusual (male homosexuality or male sexual submissiveness) to something unusual AND widely considered morally repugnant ( pedophilia or incest). The truth is that OP is being dishonest and misleading when he asks if these things are all equally natural because in reality he’s trying to ask you if you think these things are equally moral.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:44 PM
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Yes, these are natural phenomena.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:28 PM
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Indeed, and one of us is even using it correctly!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:23 PM
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Oh, so your defense here is that you don’t actually mean the things that you write. Thanks for clarifying, I’ll remember not to take you seriously going forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:05 PM
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Your approval of something doesn’t define whether that thing is natural or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:58 PM
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Yes, these are all naturally occurring phenomena. Nature doesn’t exist contingent on your approval.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:44 PM
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A man being attracted to a dominant woman is no more or less “natural” than a man being attracted to another man. Something being less common doesn’t make it “unnatural”.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 03:40 PM
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That is what keeps you striving for some unattainable goal. Or are you going to try and be obtuse now and say that because you didn’t literally use the word “settle” that it doesn’t count? You’re advising men to give up on what they really desire. I have a hard time understanding that as anything other than settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:53 AM
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Your premise is flawed. Sex is not a need. Wanting something very desperately doesn’t make it a need, it just makes you desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 11:46 AM
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Debate: men are shit and and I hate them No.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 12:02 PM
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The mating system that most advantages women is polygamy because it allows multiple women to get acesss to the genes and resources of a small number of elite men. The mating system that most advantages men is monogamy because it ensures that a larger number of men will end up with a mate. Over the last several decades and particularly in the 21st century we’ve moved increasingly from a system based on monogamy to a soft polygamous system. Dating apps are the most visible example of this trend, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 11:56 AM
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Did I say it was an insult? Or did you just make that up?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:30 PM
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And you better believe women have to work hard to get into a relationship. Yeah, waiting for the right man to approach you sounds like it would be a lot of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:17 PM
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lol, if a man were to make a statement like this about woman all the women here would rush to call him an incel with a terrible personality. But I’m sure that for you it’s different
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:13 PM
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No, you still seem confused. An annoying high maintenance pain in the ass wouldn’t be wife material, she would be hookup material, because I can maintain her annoying ass just long enough for us to hookup, then bounce.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 01:10 PM
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It seems like your definition of a “traditional marriage” is simply an arranged marriage, but I’d argue that there’s a lot more to it than that. The WWII generation may have been the last truly traditional one in the U.S. This part I generally agree with. Personally I don’t believe that a traditional marriage is even possible in the 21st century. The legal and social environment is just too far removed from a traditional context to support a traditional marriage. Sure, two people can LARP as bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 11:56 AM
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Very telling that your post was about status and the replies all imagine a bottom of the barrel unemployed loser, as though men exist as either high status or borderline homeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:06 PM
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I’m not sure if you’ve perhaps responded to the wrong comment. My position is that men deserve an equivalent right to decide if they wish to become the parent to the child of an unplanned pregnancy by accessing a “paper abortion”.
/r/MensRights12/08/25 07:14 PM
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If a man is not ready/willing to be a father and partner from emotional, supportive, protective and financial perspectives, then why would a woman want to do it all on her own? Not for me to say why she would or wouldn’t want to continue to pregnancy knowing the father doesn’t wish to assume responsibility. I simple think that she should have the right to pursue an abortion or carry the pregnancy to term if she wishes.
/r/MensRights12/08/25 07:04 PM
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You don’t seem familiar with the concept of being put in the fuckzone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 06:04 PM
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Oh yeah I’m really concerned about what Mr. “I don’t think most men are capable of loving” thinks about misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 08:14 PM
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Women wanting the girlfriend treatment but getting the hookup treatment? No, not news to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:43 PM
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See how that sounds? Sounds like red pill 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:42 PM
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Same with men that complain about divorce rape, cheating etc. Just date uglier women then. Why? Ugly women divorce their husbands too. If I have to put myself into a risky situation like a marriage contract, why should I be willing to take that risk for a woman whose beauty doesn’t make me happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:31 PM
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Seems like it’s been working fine, but I appreciate your concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:26 PM
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For the love of God—women are not the same as you. I’m aware, but it’s considered politically incorrect to say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:08 PM
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Right, but a lot of women getting the hookup treatment still expect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:42 PM
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And women don’t deserve the girlfriend treatment if they’re not beautiful enough. Deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:20 PM
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Glad you’re able to recognize that I’m only giving what I’m getting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 10:07 PM
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Good thing I’m not a hypocrite then.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:57 PM
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Brother your entire thread is a weak strawman argument claiming to know the thoughts and motivations of every man who ever had an opinion on content moderation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:52 PM
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So basically “when I am weaker than you I ask for freedom because that is according to your principals; when I am stronger than you I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles” I get the sense that you don’t actually care about freedom of speech and expression at all, so I get the sense that you’re asking the question in bad faith. For my part, I’d say that I’m just as opposed to censoring the contents of the tea app as I am opposed to censoring the contents of Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 08:55 PM
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While it’s true that men and women have a different path to becoming a parent, I don’t believe this means that men and women deserve different rights with respect to choosing when and how to become a parent. If women have the right to decide they don’t wish to become the parent to the child of an unplanned pregnancy, men deserve an equivalent right. To me, that means that men should have the right to legally terminate their responsibility to the child of an unplanned pregnancy for just as long a…
/r/MensRights05/08/25 11:59 PM
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The bottom line is that women are being granted a greater freedom to decide for themselves if they wish to become a parent. Because I believe in equality, I believe that men deserve just as much freedom to decide for themselves if they wish to become a parent too.
/r/MensRights05/08/25 11:23 PM
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Not sure I’m tracking here. Wouldn’t a man pursuing a paper abortion itself be an indication of disinterest in becoming the parent to the associated child?
/r/MensRights05/08/25 11:21 PM
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In my mind, for as long as women have the right to pursue a medical abortion, men should have the right to pursue a paper abortion. If a woman can’t legally pursue a medical abortion, then I don’t see why men should have the option to pursue a paper abortion.
/r/MensRights05/08/25 08:42 PM
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Yes. I believe that men deserve the right to decide for themselves if they wish to become a parent, just like women are allowed to do. If a woman becomes pregnant and knows that the father doesn’t want to provide child support, she’s free to terminate the pregnancy if she chooses. If a man does not choose to relinquish his parental rights and obligations then I believe it would be reasonable to hold him accountable for child support payments if he later decides to dissociate himself with the chi…
/r/MensRights05/08/25 06:42 PM
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No, my words were “after an unplanned pregnancy occurs”. After an unplanned pregnancy occurs and before that pregnancy comes to term, women have the right to choose if they wish to become the parent to that child by accessing abortion care. My position is that men deserve an equivalent right to choose for themselves if they wish to become the parent to a child after an unplanned pregnancy occurs. Anything less is an obvious disparity in rights. I believe in equality, and so I believe that if wom…
/r/MensRights05/08/25 06:40 PM
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I’m not overlooking anything. If women are allowed the right to decide for themselves if they wish to become a parent after an unplanned pregnancy occurs, men deserve an equivalent right. If a man can’t compel a woman to become the parent to an unwanted child, women shouldn’t have the right to do the same to a man.
/r/MensRights05/08/25 04:21 PM
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It’s by far the most galling “have their cake and eat it too” aspect of modern feminism in my opinion. Couple accidentally gets pregnant: Man wants to raise the child but the woman doesn’t her body her choice Man doesn’t want to raise the child but the woman does shouldn’t have had sex lol It’s why I don’t believe feminists when they say they’re in favor of equality. If they were, they’d support men having an equivalent recourse as women do in the event of an unplanned pregnancy. I’ve never spok…
/r/MensRights04/08/25 09:14 PM
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The men who try to use the idea of AI companionship as a threat against women do so because they see it as threatening the resources that would otherwise be available to those women. As in “haha you bitches can’t screw me out of my paycheck anymore because I can get my intimacy from ChatGPT now so I don’t need to try and impress you or gain your approval anymore”. Probably not as much of a threat as they’d wish it was. I agree with your perspective though OP. AI companionship seems like it would…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:31 PM
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Yeah, it's just that we don't need to. Extremely blue pilled mindset, so congrats on being flared correctly. Are you by any chance religious? You seem very comfortable accepting at face value what others tell you without presenting any evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 11:09 AM
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I guess all I can say at this point is that I don’t find your arguments or the evidence you’ve presented to be very compelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:31 PM
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Yes I’m aware. But how come American society was more conservative and patriarchal when a greater number of men had that access? Flies in the face of your theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:33 AM
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I would understand the complaint if kind, driven, well adjusted men who contribute to their social networks and communities and value commitment and family were being overlooked—but that's often not the case. You and I have a different perspective on this topic. The truth may be uncomfortable: genuinely good men are rare. How is this any different than a man saying that good women are rare because very few women meet the man’s ideal of femininity? You think that good men are rare because few men…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 08:21 PM
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But you said that access to sex would make men socialists. Why didn’t it? Perhaps because the two things are unrelated.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:12 PM
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I just don’t understand why you think this. If having “easily accessible sex with a woman” made men into progressive socialists like you seem to think it should, how come the country was generally more conservative and patriarchal when the marriage rate peaked in 1946?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:03 PM
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Very unhinged take. Having sex with a woman has never made me more interested in paying higher taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 11:15 AM
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That thing that’s happened to you before? Doesn’t actually happen. Nobody actually does that. You’re making things up if you think that ever happens. Wow you’re right thank you for this insight.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:39 PM
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No, there’s a lot of people who genuinely and sincerely believe these things and pretending that they’re trolling only serves to delude yourself. It can be funny though. Like her saying that not liking tattoos on a woman isn’t a stigmatized preference for men to have. People typically rush to call you an incel if you say that you don’t want to commit to a woman who looks like she got scribbled on with a sharpie after falling asleep first at a high school party.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:26 PM
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you can use your own eyes to see if the person has tattooes Yeah it was a pretty reliable system until clothing got invented
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:14 PM
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Also I don't think there's a stigma in saying "I like a tall guy" It’s not a stigma because it’s a female preference. There’s a reason why dating apps have a height filter and not a weight or a tattoo filter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 03:07 PM
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Affirmative action and quota based hiring are things that are explicitly designed to inhibit the success of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:14 PM
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men aren’t oppressed, I simply don’t see them as human beings
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 03:09 PM
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I gotta make more than her, be confident enough to not be scared of anything and go for what I want unapologetically in the face of conflict, in decent shape, I don't have the option of being introverted I need to be outgoing. To me this is one of the saddest dynamics of trying to date as a man. I’m probably going to catch a lot of flak for this but it’s hard not to become bitter and cynical about dating when it feels like you need to be generally superior to the people you’re interested in dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 12:51 PM
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Yeah, it’s always funny to me how people who demand that others be more empathetic would never consider having empathy for people they disagree with. It’s just emotional manipulation. Like “If you just saw things from my perspective you’d obviously agree with me” while refusing to see things from another’s perspective.
/r/MensRights16/07/25 05:20 PM
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So would dismissing men’s opinions of women based on men’s online interactions also be considered stupid and manipulative to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 03:05 PM
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NEETA (not in employment, education, training, or the Army)
/r/MensRights14/07/25 03:58 PM
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If I was going to engage in noncommittal sex, it would 1000% be with someone much higher status than me All those paragraphs just to tell us what we already know.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 11:39 AM
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Reddit is a website of really highly conservative people By far the most deranged take I’ve seen posted to this website in a long while.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:54 PM
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Hoeflation. Look, maybe your handsome male cousins would have ended up with “mid” women at another time in history too, we’ll simply never know. But maybe your handsome male cousins ended up with mid women because that was the best deal they felt like they could get in the modern dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:58 PM
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Objectively true, practically flawed. A human being can survive eating exclusively potatoes. Therefore, there is no need to eat anything else. However, while someone surviving exclusively on potatoes doesn’t need other foods to survive, they’ll still become severely malnourished without other forms of nutrition and suffer a severe decrease in their overall quality of life. Love and intimacy are largely the same in my opinion. You literally don’t need them to continue remaining alive, but not hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:51 PM
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Zero chance I could tolerate being in a relationship like this.
/r/MensRights03/07/25 11:47 AM
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Nothing in life has ever been guaranteed, but the phenomenon of “hoeflation” that u/DiligentRope is referring to is just the result of rational economic decision making. There’s less need than ever before for women to rely on men and so female demand for men is lower than ever before. Male demand for women is largely unchanged so as a result, men find themselves forced to spend greater and greater amounts of energy and resources trying to win over women who at another point in time might have co…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 12:09 PM
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but then if a woman proposes to do it for you... This doesn’t really happen though so it’s not something I’ve ever had to seriously consider. That said, if somehow I ended up in a situation where a wealthy woman wanted to make me her house husband and all I’d need to to was cook meals, keep the house clean, and take care of the kids, I’d feel like I’d won the lottery.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:56 AM
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Now imagine her leading you on, gassing you up, love bombing, sleeping with you... But then keeping you secret, never introducing you to her friends or family, dropping you the minute someone else comes along. Wow I couldn’t even imagine something like this. That would be so crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 04:21 PM
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That it was a good change.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 03:54 PM
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Many people would agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 03:51 PM
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Sounds like a pretty big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 03:48 PM
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I think that I would like to be in a traditional relationship but I also don’t believe that a traditional relationship is even possible in the 21st century since I don’t think the legal or social environment allows for it. Since I don’t believe I can have a real traditional relationship, it feels like the next best option would be a long term but legally unrecognized relationship. I think that a 21st century marriage is probably one of the least appealing relationship arrangements I can think of…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 03:46 PM
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Do you agree with the statement that feminism is an ideology that stands for equality No.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 11:37 AM
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Their comment is about as helpful to the average man as anything you’ve ever written I’d say.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 12:22 PM
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You’re seriously trying to argue that marriage was only an expectation for a period of about 50 years following the WWII era? Are you high?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 04:33 PM
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Attractive (to me) No tattoos Not career oriented Never married before No children Compatible personality I will almost certainly never get married. Fine with it though. I’ve seen how great a toll that a failed marriage can have. If I can’t get married to my idea of a perfect 10, why would I bother taking the risk?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:22 PM
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!!!!!!!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:07 PM
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I’d hope he’s more “centered” in your life than you are in mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:01 PM
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Not sure why you think I’m freaking out. I was just remarking at how funny it seemed to me that despite the question being about women who have decentered men from their lives you choose to lead by sharing that you have a boyfriend. I’m sure he’d love to know how decentered he is from your life, men find that very romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:52 PM
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If abstinence only isn’t a reason to deny women access to abortion then it shouldn’t be a reason to deny men an equal right to decide for themselves if they wish to be a parent after an unplanned pregnancy occurs.
/r/MensRights25/06/25 04:41 PM
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It just seems funny to me that a woman would feel the need to reply to a thread aimed at women who have decentered men from their lives with a comment that starts with “I have a boyfriend”. It’s literally not about her yet she still felt like her opinion was needed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 12:23 PM
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Yet men are forced to provide for unwanted children if a woman decides to keep an unplanned or unwanted pregnancy. If women are allowed to decide independently if they wish to become the parent to an unwanted or unplanned child, men should have the same right. It’s not about pregnancy rights, it’s about bodily autonomy and freedom. If women are free to choose if they wish to become a parent, men are equally deserving of that right. If a man can’t force a woman to become a parent then neither sho…
/r/MensRights25/06/25 12:01 PM
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women who have de-centered men completely I have a boyfriend Not everything is about you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:38 AM
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Women are free to terminate a pregnancy if they’re worried about becoming a single parent. Nobody is forcing them to give birth in that situation.
/r/MensRights24/06/25 10:27 PM
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You’re not some noble truth teller when you say that some women have a high libido during a conversation about most men having a higher libido than most women, you’re just being obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 11:56 AM
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And if after that conversation where the man makes it clear he doesn’t wish to become a parent, the woman accidentally becomes pregnant, he should have the right to refuse responsibility for the child. After all, she knew that he didn’t want to be a father, so she can choose to raise the child on her own with her own resources or terminate the pregnancy.
/r/MensRights24/06/25 11:27 AM
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Don’t want to raise a child on your own? Don’t carry a pregnancy to term if the father isn’t interested in providing child support.
/r/MensRights24/06/25 11:16 AM
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If women don’t want to risk pregnancy they can choose not to have sex too. That’s equality.
/r/MensRights24/06/25 11:12 AM
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When a man is forced to provide for an unwanted child, how is he to provide those resources if not by use of his body? And if he chooses not to provide child support payments, he risks imprisonment, an even greater loss of bodily autonomy. My commitment is to equality before the law. You’re just another white knight.
/r/MensRights23/06/25 09:07 PM
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If a man can’t compel a woman to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term, a woman shouldn’t be able to compel a man to provide for an unwanted child.
/r/MensRights23/06/25 08:38 PM
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If women can choose for themselves if they wish to become the parent to an unwanted or unplanned child, men deserve that same right. If a man cannot compel a woman to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term, a woman shouldn’t be able to compel a man to provide child support to an unwanted child.
/r/MensRights23/06/25 08:36 PM
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Women have the right to decide if they wish to become the parent to an unwanted or unplanned child. Men do not. We deserve equal rights.
/r/MensRights23/06/25 08:08 PM
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No, he doesn’t have the same rights. If two people have sex without the intention of causing a pregnancy, but the woman ends up pregnant anyway, she can choose to carry the pregnancy to term or pursue an abortion regardless of the wishes of the father. In fact, she can even pursue child support from the father for a child he never wished or intended to support. If women are allowed the right to choose if they wish to become the parent to a child then men deserve that right too.
/r/MensRights23/06/25 08:01 PM
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it's nobodys fault and there's nothing that can be done about it. First part is true but not the second. You just don’t like what the solutions are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:22 PM
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Good point. OnlyFans should take steps to ensure that male creators are being paid just as much as female creators. Anything less is sexism right?
/r/MensRights13/06/25 04:07 PM
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Men contributed to the fertility crisis by acquiescing to the demands of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 12:07 PM
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No. Physical attraction is a prerequisite to romantic attraction in my mind. I don’t fall in love with every beautiful woman, but every woman I fall in love with is beautiful. What do you call someone whose personality you like but that you’re not attracted to? A friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 02:06 PM
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200lbs doesn't really effect a woman's looks much Jesus fucking christ
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 09:24 PM
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men would be women if men were women Wow. I had never considered this before.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 12:15 PM
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This is a foolish statement. A monogamous relationship isn’t any more or less logical than any other form of relationship because the kind of relationship that individuals prefer is a subjective metric. You may as well have made a thread titled “Green is the only logical favorite color”.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 11:29 AM
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No, my argument is that both men and women often have interests that are in direct opposition to one another. Your argument is that men only want to exploit women and that women have never wanted to exploit men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 10:04 PM
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As true for men as it is for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:24 PM
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Seems like it worked fine. Not sure I understand the point you’re trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 09:22 PM
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Oh and her interpretation of my first statement was dead to rights, is that it? I’m only giving what I’m getting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:52 PM
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Yeah all women are perfect angels, dear. You understood my message perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 07:01 PM
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Because men and women as classes often have political, social, and economic goals that are in direct conflict with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 06:34 PM
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I think you’re confusing correlation and causation. Are married men healthier because getting married is good for their health? Or are married men healthier because an unhealthy man is less likely to be married at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:09 PM
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You saying that no man ever fought to make women’s lives better is precisely as true as someone saying that no woman ever fought to make men’s lives better. Only someone truly deranged by hatred could sincerely believe either statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 05:26 PM
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no man ever fought to make women’s lives better just a quick reminder to all the men out there, a shockingly high percentage of women actually believe this and behave accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 05:00 PM
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Interesting, but I’ve been opposed to illegal immigration since before even the recession of 2008 so your theory doesn’t really check out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:20 PM
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Why do you think being opposed to illegal immigration is a psyop and not a sincere conviction?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 08:42 PM
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This is what I mean when I say that traditional marriage doesn’t really exist anymore. The social, economic, and legal environment for a traditional marriage doesn’t exist in the 21st century.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:59 PM
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Trust me, any man who has spent time on a dating app knows exactly how worthless and replaceable he is in the eyes of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:07 PM
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For real. Like “Hey bozos? How come you aren’t more gracious and thankful when I provide good advice like ‘go to church and maybe you’ll find a girlfriend there’? You must be misunderstanding me.”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:11 PM
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Lived experiences by far. If a man never had a bad experience with women or trying to date, why would he relate to common “manosphere” talking points about women and dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 06:22 PM
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I basically do all of these things already.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 08:13 PM
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No, they’re saying that in general men have a greater sex drive than women, as evidenced by the data presented at the top of the comment chain. You having a higher than average sex drive doesn’t strongly discredit the idea that in general, men have a greater sex drive than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 09:21 PM
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My strength. Even though being physically strong isn’t as immediately valuable as it may have been at other points in history, it’s still usually not a bad thing to be the strongest person in the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 10:28 PM
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I think part of the problem we’re having here is that I’ve been dancing around the “l” word (looks) since officially the topic doesn’t exist in this subreddit. My position is that a woman’s attractiveness (looks) are the most important factor in whether I decide to pursue a relationship with her, but doesn’t necessarily guaranty that the relationship will be successful in the long term. If a woman isn’t attractive to me (good looking enough) then her personality is irrelevant to my romantic inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 04:03 PM
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Well to each their own I guess. If you’re happy being in a relationship with someone you don’t find very physically attractive but has a great personality then more power to you. Like I’ve said though, the most important factor in determining my desire to pursue a relationship with someone is how attracted I am to them. If the attraction isn’t there, a relationship can’t be either. Hence, like I said at the top of this chain, a woman’s attractiveness is the end-all-be-all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 03:43 PM
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Okay but a society in decline is very different from a society in collapse. I find it interesting that you think “The West” is in decline. What factors do you believe are contributing to this decline?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 03:12 PM
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Attraction is not based on who is the most attractive. ??? Is your level of attraction to someone simply directly proportional to how objectively attractive you consider them? I object to your use of the word “objective” in this context because attraction is a subjective experience, but apart from that I would say yeah, my attraction to someone is based on how attractive I find them. Like I said before, attraction is necessary for me to want to pursue a relationship with someone. If the attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:22 PM
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society will collapse I think I will be fine no matter what happens Unless you’re just posting on the Wi-Fi from the coffee shop in town before you head back to your off-the-grid homestead, I think you’d be impacted by the collapse of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:51 PM
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What do you call someone who you like spending time with but aren’t attracted to? Because to me that sounds like a friend. Sure, having compatible personalities is important for maintaining a relationship in the long term, but for me attractiveness is required for a romantic relationship to even exist at all. If I’m considering pursuing two women, and both of them are highly attractive to me, then personality can become a consideration in deciding who I’d rather pursue. If I’m considering pursui…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:14 PM
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Is a woman’s level of attractiveness the end-all be-all? Yes. By far.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:10 PM
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Hello are you familiar with what the letters that compose the acronym “terf” stand for?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 02:31 PM
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Having a companion for life is pretty nice. I got divorced Sounds like marriage doesn’t really promise a companion for life anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:14 PM
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I think that like any policy we see being implemented by the CCP, the primary goal of the policy is to benefit the state rather than individuals or demographic groups. One of the most concerning problems that China will be struggling with over the next few decades will be a faltering birthrate. My guess is that decision makers in China either have data or a damn good hunch that making marriage more attractive to Chinese men by making it less risky for them to get married will result in more chil…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:01 PM
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I mean, one can’t really exist without the other. Like, there couldn’t really be a manosphere dedicated to misogynistic shittalking if all women were manic pixie dream girls, because men wouldn’t find those talking points to be accurate and compelling. But most women are just people, and not all people get along, and for a lot of men it’s easy to remember all the times you didn’t get along with a certain kind of person. The manosphere feeds off of this by giving men a place to commiserate about …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:06 PM
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I’ve never denied having very high standards for a relationship. The problem for a lot of men is that having high standards often condemns you to being single, something many men find intolerable. I’ve learned from experience though that I’m personally much happier being single and a bit lonely than going through the motions of a relationship with a woman I’m not actually attracted to. I do feel entitled to a specific type of woman because I recognize that successful relationships require work a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 02:37 PM
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Men would probably go for the one with the “porn-look” first because they find her the most attractive. However, that doesn’t mean that all those same men would be interested in a serious relationship with her once they discover that she has a “porn-look” from being a porn star.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 12:33 PM
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Values are subjective and defined by humans. If you value a growing population then your claim that women are more valuable than men due to women being the bottleneck in human reproduction then your claim could be considered subjectively accurate. Otherwise, it’s just as accurate as me saying that women intrinsically have less value because they’re less productive agriculturalists than men are. You’re not able to define value “intrinsically” because what you consider valuable itself lacks any in…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:11 PM
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People are often discomforted by the idea that the solution to a problem can mean sacrificing certain freedoms. Especially if those freedoms were hard won in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 12:16 AM
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Uncomfortable truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 08:48 PM
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just accept that you’ll never find romantic love why don’t you just adopt some children instead? You give poor advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:07 PM
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Okay, my answer to your question is that I don’t care how many men are interested in wearing condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 01:09 AM
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I’m not sure I understand the point you’re trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 12:05 AM
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Okay, I’m fine with that outcome since women would still have the right to decline unprotected sex with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:07 PM
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If a woman wants to keep an unplanned pregnancy I think that she should have the right to do so. However, I don’t believe that a woman choosing to keep an unplanned pregnancy should give her the right to compel child support payments from the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:01 PM
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Men should not be coerced reproductively. I agree, which is why I believe that men should have the right to decide if they wish to assume responsibility for a child in the event of an unplanned or unwanted pregnancy. Edit for u/CatchPhraze since they replied to my post then blocked me; how about all women who become pregnant on their own can have full authority over whether to carry the pregnancy to term, but pregnancies involving a father require unanimous consent prior to being terminated? Edi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 08:12 PM
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Sorry to hear that you don’t support equal rights, but not surprised either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 07:41 PM
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It is unfair to men that women do these things and get away with it a lot of the time but the only "solution" men put forth is to legally be allowed to abandon the child. A better solution would be more options for male contraceptives. No actually I think the solution is still to provide men equal rights to women by granting them an equal right to decide if they wish to become the parent to an unwanted or unplanned child.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 06:49 PM
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About as often as the MGTOW subreddit produced them I’d wager
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 02:26 PM
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And women who give birth to an unwanted child have the right to provide for it on their own, glad we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:49 PM
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Great, and if she wants to keep an unwanted child on her own then she should have that right. But she shouldn’t have the right to compel a man to provide for an unwanted child. The fact that women are able to control their parental rights far beyond the point that men are is an inequality in rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:45 PM
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I’m happy to concede that human biology is unequal. I don’t believe this means that men and women shouldn’t have equal rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:43 PM
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The woman chose to carry the pregnancy to term and become a parent, so she can be held accountable for providing and caring for the child. Men should have the same right. If a man chooses to become a parent then I have no trouble with compelling him to provide child support, but he should still have the same right to choose whether he wishes to be a parent as women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:18 PM
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A woman’s ability to compel child support for an unwanted pregnancy constitutes exercising control over a man’s body since people must use their bodies to earn the resources they’re being compelled to provide. Not only that, but men can be imprisoned for failing to provide parental support, an almost total loss of bodily autonomy imposed on them by a woman demanding paternal support for an unwanted child. If both parents agree without duress to support the child of an unplanned pregnancy then I …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:54 PM
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In areas where women have access to abortion they are allowed the right to decide if they wish to become a parent far beyond the point that a man can. That’s inequality. If a man can’t compel a woman to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term then a woman shouldn’t be able to compel a man to assume parental rights for an unwanted pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:29 PM
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I would argue that consent to sex does not equal consent to pregnancy only applies to women And I would argue that men and women deserve equal rights before the law, including the right to decide if they wish to become a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 01:07 PM
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To me the issue is that men don’t have the same rights as women do in deciding if they want to be a parent at all. If two people have sex without the intention of causing a pregnancy, but the woman ends up pregnant anyway, the man is in danger of getting trapped into 18 years of child support payments for a child he never agreed or intended to support. This is why I’ve always believed that men deserve the right to decline their paternal responsibilities. If women are allowed the right to decide …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 12:00 PM
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Guess what I'm a woman bro Don’t worry, I can tell
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:49 PM
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If you were a man you would be a turbo-incel because women are even less likely to be interested in a man approaching her and are at least as likely to be emotionally fucked as any man. Women who give up approaching or initiating will still have lots of opportunities to explore physical and romantic relationships. Men who give that up are likely to never experience it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:38 PM
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Right wing man left wing woman pairings are obviously going to be more common than the reverse simply because there are more right wing men than left wing men, and more left wing women than right wing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 04:30 PM
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it's because women have been conditioned since we were little into having internalized misogyny. Very cool how even if women explicitly admit to behaviors that you disagree with (discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation) you still find a way for it to not be their fault in any way. Are you so quick to rationalize and forgive male behaviors you disagree with too?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:01 PM
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I’d argue that you don’t know much about the values of a true Roman patriarch if you think the form of male dominance provided by Christian doctrine is equivalent. A Roman patriarch literally held the power of life and death over his dependents, and could have them put to death with the force of law behind him under certain circumstances, something typically frowned upon by Christian moralists.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:25 PM
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Flair says he’s “SPQR-Pilled Man” talks like an evangelical from Alabama Jupiter would be quite disappointed, citizen. Your slave religion and its emphasis on weakness and servility would have disgusted the patriarchs of the Roman republic and the citizens that elected them. The Apollonian values of strength, glory, and the will to dominate are what brought Rome from a small village in central Italy to the master of the Mediterranean. The very fact that the religion of the Romans produced such d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 01:51 PM
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But who are you to judge who is in what percentile? I love the made up incel concept of “looksmatch”, where they basically think they can decide who is attractive enough for whom. You didn’t seem this upset when OP wrote “ I feel like I've seen below average men with 10/10 hot looking genuine caring girls.” Why is it that if a man talks about looks you think they’re an incel but don’t seem to mind when women do the very same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:14 PM
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The thing that bothers me about the “men are looking for water in a desert women are looking for water in a swamp” analogy of dating is that it implies that the vast majority of men are as useful as dirty swamp water while the vast majority of women are a precious treasure. In my experience, the water that a man in the dating desert is looking for is just as likely to be dirty swamp water, and the difference is that there’s less water period.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 12:47 PM
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Why do women need special privileges to encourage them to go into STEM careers?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 12:33 PM
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I like how in your mind any woman who disagrees with you is either delusional or shitposting, and any man agrees with a woman who disagrees with you is a white-knight simp. But please, tell me more about how you have no ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 05:45 PM
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Perhaps the delusional one here is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 05:30 PM
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Why is it that MGTOW is hailed as evil and dangerous while 4B is praised? Because men are bad and women are wonderful.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 05:55 PM
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Okay, go post about that in a thread directed at women then.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 01:16 PM
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And yet you still posted this thread telling men to lower their standards…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 12:44 PM
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TLDR: Men should lower their standards No. I’m better off single than being in a relationship with a woman I’m not actually interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 11:54 AM
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Well it’s rude to ask why someone likes something they didn’t decide to like and then saying it makes them seem like a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 03:56 AM
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op asks a difficult question a guy gives his honest answer op calls the guy problematic and misogynistic Don’t ask questions you don’t want to know the answer to. For what it’s worth, I’ve been this way too for as long as I’ve known that I was attracted to women. I wish I wasn’t this way but I don’t really believe that people have much control over what turns them on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 03:41 AM
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I’d guess that part of it has to be self censorship. Not a lot of men are comfortable admitting they fantasize about committing one of the most broadly reviled crimes imaginable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 12:51 AM
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But you’re implying that male violence is equivalent to female violence which like I pointed out already is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 03:38 PM
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A man’s fist will be filled with bones that are denser than a woman’s and propelled by muscles that are denser than a woman’s. A punch from a male fist will almost always be more dangerous than a punch from a female fist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 03:06 PM
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Because if a woman his age won't date him, he's trash. And if a man her own age won’t date her, she’s trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:16 PM
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Don't tell me that women have power to just buck social pressure. Why not? Don’t women have just as much agency as I do?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 12:52 PM
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The problem is that very often women use the term husband material as a way to gently explain why they’re NOT attracted to a man. Sort of a “it’s not you it’s me” line of attack. When a man gets told that he’s great husband material it often means “I’m not going to sleep with you but maybe someday some other woman will settle for you.”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:54 PM
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I don’t want to be viewed as the safe and reliable backup plan, I want to be viewed as the passionate first choice. When women say that a man is great husband material what they often mean is that he would make a good domestic partner but he doesn’t spark romantic desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:41 PM
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Because if I were only interested in a relationship with a woman who is my sociological superior in some way then I would never be in a relationship at all, since women who are my sociological superiors don’t want to be in a relationship with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 06:12 PM
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Being honest about things is why I identify myself as “red pilled” on this forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 12:23 AM
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Most “I want a traditional woman” claims translate to “I want a woman who can rely on me so she won’t be able to leave” Perhaps because traditionally, this was in fact the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 09:40 PM
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Why poor people would worry about legacy? Why some ugly manlet would want to sneak his crappy DNA in the gene pool? being born in working class sucks This feels more like projection than a critique of red pill thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:07 PM
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Oh wow, a Google AI blurb. This totally makes me believe that marriage is a good idea after all!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 02:16 PM
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again what (the man) acquires during marriage isn’t “the man’s” it belongs to both parties This is (part of) what men mean when they say that marriage is a bad deal for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 02:03 PM
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Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:46 PM
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None of the higher levels of Maslow's pyramid beyond the first two layers are are needed for survival. It is a hierarchy of needs for someone to be able to reach self actualization/fulfillment in life. Kind of sums up my entire point right there. Self-actualization is not necessary for survival and thus cannot be defined as a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:33 PM
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There is a vast gulf of difference between an autistic person struggling to decipher someone’s tone and inflection in a conversation and my pointing out and correcting a factual error in a debate. Perhaps the person struggling with context here is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:57 PM
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My desires have nothing to do with it. I’m only stating facts. I wouldn’t have guessed that this would be controversial in a subreddit ostensibly dedicated to debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:23 PM
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Understanding the meaning of a word isn’t a symptom of autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:53 PM
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No, at no point did I imply that if something is not a need that it shouldn’t be desired. I’m simply pointing out that needs are different from desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:53 PM
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The need is oxygen. A Heimlich maneuver is one possible solution to a lack of oxygen caused by an obstruction in the throat.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:41 PM
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“Increasing human flourishing in the world” may be nice, but once again it is literally not a need. And that’s what this entire stupid thread boils down to, OP misusing or misunderstanding the actual definitions of the words being used.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:57 PM
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None of that changes the fact that no person has ever died of a lack of sex. Sex is not and has never been needed for an individual to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:17 PM
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some needs are more necessary than others. I fucking hate this subreddit sometimes man… Saying that one need is more necessary than another need is just as sensible as saying that one person is more equal than another. It’s complete nonsense. Food is a need similar to how water is a need. You may need different amounts of each, but both are equivalent in their status as a need. Sex is not and has never been a need because a lack of sex will not cause you to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:52 PM
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I guess you could just as well say that freedom, human dignity and social relations are not needs. Food beyond oat meal or bugs is not an actual necessity. Not being in chains or having any say over how the hours of your life are spent is not necessary for survival. Every one of those statements is unequivocally true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:45 PM
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I completely disagree with the idea that sex is a need because nobody has ever died from a lack of sex. It quite literally is not needed for an individual to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:42 PM
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Apparently this chain of events means that the guy in question literally could not accept no for an answer under any circumstance and that the person you’re replying to was obligated to give them a chance. At least, that’s what they would have you believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 09:00 PM
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No u
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:57 PM
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a guy who won’t take “no” for answer until Kind of seems like the hypothetical guy did take “no” for an answer and that you weren’t actually obligated to give that man a chance exactly like the poster you’re responding to already said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 08:48 PM
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A long term cohabitation agreement is different from a traditional marriage because in a traditional marriage you couldn’t just decide to move out one day if you wanted. I’m being a little facetious there, but what I mean once again is that the legal environment is very different today. For a long time, being married meant that you couldn’t really get divorced except under certain extraordinary circumstances. In the last 80 years, many laws have been written that make marriages easier to form, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 02:24 AM
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Well for one thing the legal landscape of marriage has changed quite a bit in the last 80 years. One reason why long term cohabitation was a less common arrangement up to now was that it offered few legal protections for the cohabitants. If one cohabitant relied on the other for financial support, they might have no legal recourse if their other cohabitant decided to cut off their own support. Without that legal recourse, which generally IS granted to at least some level in modern long term coha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 02:10 AM
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Long term cohabitation is functionally indistinguishable from traditional marriage. Haha. Right. The entire institution of a traditional marriage is “fundamentally indistinguishable” from a 21st century cohabitation agreement between two people. Man, this is exactly what I mean when I call someone bluepilled. You’re so plugged into the matrix of modernity that you actually believe long term cohabitation was basically how traditional marriage worked. The truth is that in a lot of ways, a traditio…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 01:55 AM
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It's controversial, not a universally accepted moral wrong Morality is subjective, not empirical. There is quite literally no moral principle that could be universally agreed upon. If one side of the debate can only get their way by imposing their ideology on the other side, making the practice a taboo and limiting personal freedom for their opposition then it's reasonable to expect that same side to contribute in dealing with the consequences of their ideology. Again, this is flawed logic. You’…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:47 PM
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You seem to have concluded that I am strictly pro-life, which is not true. My initial comment was to express how pro-choice advocates often resort to weak or contradictory arguments to support their perspective. IE: “you can only be pro life if you also support massive government mandated social welfare programs”. This is a weak argument because like I pointed out, it’s not logically inconsistent to think that an unborn person has a right to life, while also having no right to your resources. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 07:08 PM
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There is nothing entitled about not wanting to give your resources away to strangers to compensate them for their poor decision making.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:20 PM
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I like how one of the most recurring pro-choice lines of attack is “if you actually cared about kids you’d be a liberal socialist just like I am!” Just because someone is opposed to murder doesn’t mean they feel compelled to provide for people who would have been murdered if the law allowed for it. It’s not hypocritical to think that the unborn have a right to life while also thinking that you shouldn’t be forced to provide for unwanted children that you have nothing to do with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:18 PM
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[people I don’t like] need to stop [doing things I don’t like] because [my step dad is broke and lied about it] The nice thing about anecdotal evidence is that we all have it!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:13 PM
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Men, have you ever considered that you actually suck and don’t deserve to be happy? Wow thank you this changed my worldview completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 12:38 PM
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If you look at The Red Pill in the context of it’s origins as a reference to the first Matrix movie, it’s about choosing to embrace uncomfortable truths (waking up from the matrix) instead of unquestioningly accepting the status quo (having your memory wiped and staying in the matrix). Extending this analogy to the dating world, the blue pulled majority of people don’t put much thought into how and why the dating scene looks and operates. They just accept it for what it is and participate in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 12:00 AM
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People can be attracted to different things, but there is no society anywhere on earth where older women are generally seen as more beautiful or attractive than younger women. You’re either trying to be obtuse and pedantic (“I knew a guy once who hooked up with a grannie over a college girl therefore men DON’T prefer younger women”) or like that other user pointed out already, virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:48 PM
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No, when men say that they have to work harder than their grandfathers for a smaller reward, they aren’t talking about bowling alone. Sorry but what a bizarre conclusion to arrive at. Practically everyone today (not just men) is less well off MATERIALLY than they likely would have been in their grandparents generation. The material impoverishment that most people are struggling with itself is a far greater contributor to social impoverishment as outlined by Bowling Alone than any other single fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 01:09 PM
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Well then it’s a good thing I don’t want to get married!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 09:45 PM
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Sure, women in your scenario might choose to compromise, but a compromise is literally and definitively a sub-optimal outcome compared to the preferred outcome. That’s why I’m rolling my eyes at all the people who say they just loooooove to compromise. Making compromises might often be required in a healthy long term relationship, but in an ideal world a compromise wouldn’t be necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 09:37 PM
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would you rather get what you want or compromise? Bro you cannot convince me that all the blue/purple pilled men saying they just love compromising aren’t white knighting so hard right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 08:51 PM
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I do actually want legal equality though. If women can decide if they wish to become a parent after a pregnancy occurs but before the child is born, men should be granted the same right. If men aren’t allowed to decide if they wish to become a parent after a pregnancy occurs, I don’t see why I should be an advocate for a woman’s right to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 02:15 PM
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Abortion being illegal actually brings men and women closer to a state of legal equality because then neither the man nor the woman gets to decide if they wish to become a parent once a pregnancy occurs. I’ve always been pro choice. I’ve also always been pro equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:55 PM
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this subreddit hates single moms for fucking guys who later on abandon her……but then this subreddit also believes in financial abortion and how child support is a scam. These things aren’t hypocritical ideas to hold at the same time. It’s perfectly reasonable to be critical of a woman who chooses to keep a pregnancy that resulted from an uncommitted relationship while also being an advocate for equal rights for men. Access to abortion allows women the right to decide if they wish to become a par…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 01:15 PM
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I think that I agree with your positions here. I’ve always been very pro-choice on the question of abortion, but I also feel that abortion rights being the result of a Supreme Court case where it was argued that bans on abortion violate a woman’s right to privacy, was a bizarre and untenable answer to the question of abortion. Even though I don’t know how to fix the problem, I don’t agree with the idea of relying on a strained legal interpretation as a solution to a paralyzed political system.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:50 AM
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The only men I see getting upset about women not wanting to split the bill in dates are male feminists. They probably get upset because it contradicts their feminist dogma that men and women are totally the same and should be treated as such. The male feminist’s male friends don’t mind splitting the bill when they meet up for a drink, so why should any woman mind either? Fair is fair after all. What they fail to realize is that men and women aren’t the same and that OP is largely correct. These …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 12:50 PM
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Im saying it's your opinion that women get protection from the consequences of recreational sex. I don't agree that that's what abortion is. But when a woman decides to terminate an unwanted or unplanned pregnancy, that’s exactly what abortion is. Protection from the unwanted consequences of sex. Outside cases where the health and safety of the woman are in question, what else could an abortion possibly be? what constitutes equality to women giving birth is subjective to women who give birth. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 03:21 PM
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You: You both knew the consequences and accepted them. Me: They both knew the consequences You: That's your opinion. Wasn’t that your opinion too a moment ago? The possible consequences of sex and pregnancy is not secret obscure knowledge. I believe that women are just as capable of informing themselves about the possible consequences of sex and pregnancy as men are. Again, biology makes the consequences of sex and pregnancy differ for men and women, but I still don’t believe that differences in…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 03:02 PM
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If two people have sex without the intention of causing a pregnancy but a pregnancy occurs regardless, men lose their right to control their reproduction but women do not. Supporting abortion for women but not for men is a blatant inequality in favor of women. You want women to have the right to engage in safe, recreational sex but you don’t think that men should be entitled to the same protections.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 02:44 PM
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They both knew the consequences, but you think that only women deserve any protection from the consequences. Disappointing, but also not surprising. I’ll always be an advocate for legal equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 02:42 PM
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It’s sexist because it allows women to control their reproduction but not men. I believe that men and women should have equal rights, including an equal right to decide if they wish to be the parent to a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 02:35 PM
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If two people have sex without the intention of causing a pregnancy but a pregnancy occurs regardless, men lose their right to control their reproduction but women do not. Supporting abortion for women but not for men is a blatant inequality in favor of women. You want women to have the right to engage in safe, recreational sex but you don’t think that men should be entitled to the same protections. I know that men and women differ in their biology, but I don’t believe this means they should hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 02:32 PM
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Why is not murdering the children you conceived such an unreasonable expectation?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 02:26 PM
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how anyone would want someone who is only there on threat of poverty or out of obligation is so strange to even consider to me. Just wait until you find out about employment!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:57 PM
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OP’s statements about attraction and my answer to their statement aren’t about ethics. OP is claiming that the only way that individuals can have more success in finding a long term relationship is by self-improvement. I’m merely pointing out that structural factors outside an individual’s control (like women’s liberation) also play a role in how likely an individual is to find a long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:49 PM
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I disagree. There are many things that could change in our society that would make the prospect of being in a relationship more attractive. For instance, if your only realistic path to achieving economic security was through marriage, you’d probably put a lot more care and attention into securing a marriage. After all, a mediocre marriage is a lot more appealing to most people than destitute poverty. I guess I would agree that physical attraction can’t really be negotiated. In general I’ve alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:45 PM
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You know I’ll admit that a lot of times I come here looking for a fight, but I really can’t disagree with anything you just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 01:55 AM
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The average guy is kind of a loser. He’s overweight, not particularly smart, and not particularly good looking. Sure, he’s not the worst option in any of these categories, but definitively he’s not the best in any of them either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:32 PM
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Women are not becoming pickier. Women have always been picky when it comes to who they’d prefer to be with. What’s changed is that women no longer have the same incentives to overlook their pickiness and start families with Joe Schmoe like they did in the 1950s and before. It used to be that a mediocre relationship was better for a woman than no relationship because being married used to be a de facto requirement for women to gain economic security and participate in public life. Today, women ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:55 PM
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Your post only really addresses the historic balance of labor for women in various economic categories, which makes me think that it’s YOU who doesn’t understand what a “traditional” relationship actually means. Traditionally, men had basically all of the legal authority in their marriage. I’m America at least, it’s only since about the 1960s and onward that women could independently own property and initiate divorce proceedings. I think that for a lot of men, when they say they want a tradition…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 12:48 PM
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Both of those things developed after human evolution made human pregnancies suck. Evolution has made pregnancy a greater investment for women than for men and so women are naturally more picky about who they prefer to mate with than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 12:47 PM
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Dude, women having more icks than men is redpill 101. It should be obvious why women have more icks than men do because getting pregnant sucks but getting someone pregnant rules. If you’re gonna get pregnant you really want it to be with a great man with few ick factors and if you’re gonna get someone pregnant you have a lot of motivation to overlook any icks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 12:03 AM
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Swipe for an hour and maybe get one match if you’re lucky. Try and start a conversation and maybe only 1 in 4 will ever respond to your first message. Try and push the conversation towards setting up a date and maybe a further 1 in 4 will be interested. once you get to your date, there’s probably a 1 in 5 chance that she’ll ghost you and never show up. When you do manage to get a woman to show up to a date, there’s a good chance that you’ll either decide that you’re incompatible and lose interes…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 12:43 PM
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For a lot of the same reasons I’d say, actually. A lot of red pill men see marriage as something that generally favors women, and so they choose to avoid it. At the same time, they might mock a woman for not getting married because they see marriage as something that would benefit her more than her would be husband, so she should hurry up and find a nice bluepilled man to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 01:16 AM
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It’s not equal because in your scenario and in our current system for states where abortion is legal, the man had no right to decide whether the child exists, while the woman did. If the woman in your scenario wanted to terminate the pregnancy but the man did not, the man doesn’t get to force the woman to carry the pregnancy to term. If the woman decides to keep the pregnancy but the man is opposed, she can hold him liable to support the child. I think that you can reasonably argue that this ine…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:16 AM
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Yes, equal rights under the law are a greater priority to me than financially supporting women who choose to carry a pregnancy to term despite knowing that the biological father did not and does not wish to become a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:20 PM
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Poverty and homelessness may be issues that impact men, but I don’t believe that the solution to these problems is to deny men equal rights under the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 07:03 PM
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A male child legally abandoned by his father should grow up having the same legal rights as his biological father, yes. Just like a female child abandoned by her biological father.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:48 PM
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I recognize that biology is not equal, but biology not being equal does not convince me that I don’t deserve equal rights under the law. If women have the right to control their reproductive cycle by having access to a medical abortion, I should have the right to control my reproductive cycle by having access to a legal abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:36 PM
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In places where abortion for women is seen as a right, I most certainly do not have the same right to control my reproductive cycle that women do because I am not allowed to terminate my responsibility to the fetus. Imagine two people have sex without the intent to cause a pregnancy but the woman ends up pregnant anyway. If she wants to terminate the pregnancy, the man has no say in the matter. If the man doesn’t want to be responsible to the unborn child but the woman decides to carry the pregn…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:30 PM
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Men and women should have equal rights. If women have the right to choose whether they want to be the parent to a child, men should have the same right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:16 PM
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Your politico link is an opinion piece that includes gems like “Sex-based preferences can be a good thing. Girls and women continue to be sorely underrepresented in STEM and might need a boost.” I don’t pay for the journalistic excellence of the New York Times.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:37 PM
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Even if that were true, which I don’t believe that it is, the fact remains that as a whole men are less likely to benefit from discriminatory practices like DEI and affirmative action than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 04:41 PM
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Okay, but men should have equal rights as women, including the right to decide if they want to be a parent if that right is extended to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 04:24 PM
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End anti-male discrimination in education and hiring by banning DEI quota systems and unfair scholarship systems that disproportionately favor women at the expense of men. Ensure that social welfare programs aimed at men get equal funding as social welfare programs aimed at women. Grant men equal rights to control their reproductive cycle by giving them equal access to “paper abortions” in places where medical abortions are viewed as a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 03:55 PM
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Feeling entitled to their friendship even though you know it’s causing them emotional pain does seem kind of terrible to me, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 02:03 PM
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I recognize that the unrequited feelings in this relationship are causing my friend deep emotional discomfort but if they do anything to protect themself from those feelings I consider them a terrible friend who cared more about themselves than they did me. Idk sounds like the terrible friend here is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 01:57 PM
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I feel like you’re trying to create some sort of “gotcha” moment when in reality the majority of men I know would probably be thrilled at the prospect of having their wife take care of them financially while they manage domestic affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:16 PM
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OP’s post is about gender inequality in developed countries, not Afghanistan.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:04 PM
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this dude thinks 180 lbs on a woman is barely chubby I fucking hate living in America so goddamn much
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 01:46 PM
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Probably shouldn’t come as a surprise. Browse a sub like r/dating for a while and you’ll notice that anytime a woman starts a thread asking why she isn’t more successful in dating she’ll include a comment about how she knows she’s really attractive but just can’t figure out why men aren’t going out of their way to date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 11:58 AM
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If you’re a man in a stable LTR with a woman, how do you benefit from turning that into a marriage? If the only answer is something like “she will leave me if I don’t propose” then marriage sounds more like blackmail than romance. Many men recognize that marriage as an institution today is heavily tilted in favor of women and so they wisely choose to avoid it if at all possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:40 PM
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So it’s sexism to appreciate women? It very literally is sexist to believe that women have innate qualities that impact your perceptions of them. Saying something like “women are irrational” is a negative sexist comment, and saying something like “women are wonderful” is a positive sexist comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:40 PM
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Men are not a monolith. You could ask enough men if they need to drink water and eventually someone would be upset. Many men were offended by the man vs bear question because like I said, it portrays men as less than a wild animal. I’d guess that a lot fewer men would be offended by the man vs woman question because at least in that scenario we’re still portrayed as human.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 10:39 PM
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I think you’re wrong. I’d argue that most people would rather encounter a woman in the woods than a man in the woods because the vast majority of people would agree that women are inherently less threatening than men. The man vs bear argument is offensive to men because if you pick the bear, you’re saying that you think of men as being worse than a wild animal. Not the same at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 10:33 PM
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I’ve had similar conversations with my two older sisters at various points in my life. One of them even met her current SO doing that exact same “1 date a week even if I’m not feeling excited about it” and recommended the same strategy to me. I tried to explain to her that I could be swiping on a dating app for an hour a day and still not get a single match in a week, let alone a date. She literally would not believe me when I told her what being on a dating app was like for men. So yeah, it kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 12:49 PM
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Well most worker ants are female so…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:42 PM
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the best advice for men when it comes to dating is to just give up lol Not an ideal solution
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 03:30 PM
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