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ThrowawayCactus6012/r/PussyPassDenied19/03/19 01:24 PM
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Question for BluePillThrowawayCactus6012/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 01:28 PM
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Q4WomenThrowawayCactus6012/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 06:28 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:43 AM
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I don't know that it's 10% of the population. The blue pill mindset aligns with that of the political establishment and the policymakers who have shown themselves to be friendly towards feminism and other politically correct viewpoints. If we define blue pill as "the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth," then that would point to the establishment and those who hold political and economic power in the world. The blue pillers align with that power and therefore be…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:21 PM
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I tend to look at "blue pill" as merely another euphemism for "political correctness" (or sometimes known as "woke").
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 11:37 AM
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Traveling to a different country, typically by crossing an ocean or some other significant distance. Not something you could make an easy day trip out of. "Traveling abroad" means traveling to a different country, period. It does not mean all this extra stuff you're putting in. Do you blue pillers just make up your own language or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 12:49 PM
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"Pathetic" literally means something you can feel sympathy for. If you can't feel sympathy for it, then it's not "pathetic," by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 12:47 PM
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Yes, this is very very common when dating in Beijing for you (your family) to be able to purchase a house in Beijing (atleast the down payment 400k USD). I guess China is not as communist as they used to be. I'm not sure what "traditional" would mean in that context. In the West, a key difference what is regarded as "modern times" versus "tradition" does not seem to relate directly gender roles, but more a matter of civic and social responsibility. For example, back during WW2, "Rosie the Rivete…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 11:26 AM
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The "establishment" isn't always of one like mind - and it can often fluctuate. When it comes to things like grooming, the "establishment" may not even be all that powerful. Once upon a time, the establishment demanded that all men have short, military-style haircuts, but younger men started thumbing their nose at those kinds of demands coming from the establishment. Nowadays, men can have their hair long or short - and facial hair however they want it. That was progress for men. Women also enjo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 02:21 PM
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I think that some of what you're addressing is more due to contrivances which came about several decades ago. There was once a time when men used to just hang out with and be friends with men, and women would just hang out with women. They wouldn't likely be co-workers either. Romantic partners might agree to be "just friends" after a break-up, but that typically meant "not being enemies." It didn't mean hanging out every day like bosom buddies. But as gender equality entailed larger numbers of …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:39 PM
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I don't think that it's because men are "only allowed to feel anger." At least as far as what society expects and what men/boys are encouraged to do, there have been mixed messages. I've heard some say that "men need to get in touch with their feelings, shouldn't be afraid to cry, etc." But then there are those who contradict that message, so it's hard to say exactly what men are "allowed to feel" anymore. Nobody really knows anymore. In general, I think most men are probably taught to not show …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 02:00 PM
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.The economy suffers, we aren't able to make as much stuff, and we regress back into a poorer economy. It doesn't take all the billions of people in the world to make all that stuff. The world's population has more than quadrupled over the past 100 years. Whether it's a poorer economy or a more affluent economy depends on one where one sits. The Western countries are still fairly comfortable, but it's hard to say how long that can last.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 01:27 PM
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For me, I guess it would really depend on how they came to their beliefs. Was it after years of study, self-reflection, and careful examination of one's own personal values? Or was it the result of years of conditioning and propaganda - or perhaps pressure from family or peers? I might try to get a sense of whether they're just parroting things they've heard others say, or if they really have any idea as to what they're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 01:02 PM
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So you think that women are not choosing men because they don’t like their conservatism? That wasn't really my point, but I would say that this is probably true to some extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 01:02 PM
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Men are doing these things and yet still complaining about not having sex. When you look at the larger picture, I think the issues under discussion go far beyond men simply complaining about not having sex. There even seems to be a growing gender divide in politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 12:44 PM
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I think the whole male-female "friendship" idea came out of basically feminist ideals that women can be equals with men and can be "just one of the guys" hanging out together. Even if it's perfectly natural to catch feelings over time, no one is supposed to admit to this, lest they be accused of questioning one of the core holy tenets of feminism. Might as well just say that women shouldn't be allowed to vote and see what reaction you get. That's also why we see such overzealous rhetoric about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 12:34 PM
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So, what other options do men have if they want to try and understand women? I guess it would depend on what you want to understand them for. It might be a matter of understanding humans in general. But most of what you're addressing here is political, and understanding politics and propaganda is a whole different ballgame. At that point, people are no longer individuals but factions - or sometimes nothing but abstract ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:34 PM
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The tradcons and hippie liberals both sold out to corporatism decades ago. They've been in la-la land ever since, which is a large part of the reason that people have been speaking of decline as of late. Just get yourself at a place where you're confident you won't be affected no matter what happens. I know some people who are survivalists. They have bomb shelters, and I've heard of a whole neighborhood which has tunnels between the houess filled with weapons, food, and ammunition. Some people a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:09 PM
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recent battle between trad cons and TRPs online I've noticed those two camps oftentimes at odds with each other. Trad cons have been around a lot longer, ostensibly representing the old traditional conservative order in society, whereas RP and PUA seem more libertarian in their scope and are more likely products of the sexual revolution than anything to do with the old order.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 12:50 PM
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I suppose it can be said for both genders, at least as far as being influenced (or maybe even "brainwashed") by movies and other media in popular culture. Disney, just like any other company, will produce what they believe will sell and will try to reflect whatever they perceive to be the mores of contemporary society. In other times past, Disney produced movies like "Song of the South," which is now universally condemned. So, perhaps in 50 years, the Disney movies of today will receive universa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 01:19 PM
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As for me: I never cared. BUT I respect much more a woman who is open and honest than the “holier than Thou” judgmental hypocrites that claim one thing but actually are doing another. I agree with this. I never cared either way, but as you say, the "holier than thou" types displaying a mendacious pretense can be absolutely insufferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 12:24 PM
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So, you've never heard of politics? You don't believe it exists?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 11:57 PM
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No real "master plan," but I think there's a thing called "politics" which has existed from the time humans first began to speak. It's a series of gambits being played out, but there's no such thing as a sure thing. Within that process, some people try to put forth a certain image or mode of thinking and try to persuade others to go along with it. Some might call it advertising, others might call it propaganda or politically biased. These things do exist, although it doesn't automatically imply …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:31 PM
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Granted, there's been a lot of mixed messages and conflicting information out there. PC couldn't and doesn't ban everything, and the blue pill was never all that successful in trying to shroud the world from people's eyes (which is where the whole "pill" analogy as originally presented in The Matrix tends to fall apart). But both existed as a way of creating an artificial perception in people's eyes, particularly as the hoped-for changes coming out of the civil rights and women's lib eras weren'…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 01:58 PM
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You think the 80s, the era of Wall Street, 2live crew Scarface, cocaine, Andrew dice clay and sexual harassment being legal was a “Bluepill” era?! I recall it being a transitional decade. What they call "blue pill" today was called "political correctness" back then. But it did exist, even if on a smaller scale than now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:08 PM
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I can't say much about the culture of India, but in America in my experience, I've seen a certain clash of sub-cultures. For example, my father was raised in the rural Midwest, in the middle of the Bible Belt. But he went into the military, moved out to California, where he met my mother - who came from a more liberal, urbanized, and secularized culture. "Beta Bucks," in my opinion, could have been derived from earlier incarnations of what men were typically taught (particularly those who come f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:07 PM
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That explains all those Cindy Crawford and Farrah Fawcett posters up in men's rooms and dorms in the '90s. Pre-teen boys did that, while men would post centerfolds from magazines like Playboy on their walls.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 12:42 PM
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I think my parents could have been the poster children for the alpha widow/beta bucks dynamic. But I don't think red pill ideas come just from observations of family members. One can observe the behavior of one's classmates, co-workers, acquaintances - or even random strangers on the internet putting their business all over social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 11:39 AM
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I suppose it would depend on how often it's done. Once in a while, a bit of toilet humor shouldn't be a huge deal. It's a part of the human experience, and humans are sometimes funny. But if toilet humor is all one has in one's repertoire, then it might be advisable to get some new material from time to time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 01:49 PM
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I would say it still falls within the same overall category.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 01:35 AM
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"PurplePillDebate is a neutral community to discuss sex and gender issues"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 01:31 AM
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Its just an observation but there are way more conservative friends of mine that complain men aren't good any more because they want conservative men. And yes they are hard core christian women who want the whole trad wife thing. Like I said. I relate to conservatives so many of my female friend are. But not the men. I think a lot of it would depend on what their background is and where they come from - and where they are now. It seems that there are more conservative men than there are conserva…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 12:32 PM
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The Karen videos are usually in public situations where women are making a public scene, demanding to see the manager, etc. When it's public, it's more likely to appear on video as opposed to couples' private moments when they're breaking up or being emotionally vulnerable to each other. It's unreasonable to expect that kind of video evidence when comparing the two situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 12:33 PM
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It might have been interesting if the commentator didn't have constant diarrhea of the mouth.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 01:50 PM
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I lean more towards Keynesianism myself.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 01:31 PM
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Do the bare mininum to live comfortably for yourself. Do not donate to anything. I guess that's what a lot of people have been doing already anyway. One might hear people lamenting the decline in service, along with a general decline in civility. Some people note an increase in narcissistic personality types and people who latch on to an attitude of "it's all about me." Some businesses have complained of labor shortages and a lack of applicants, while workers today seem more and more unwilling t…
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 01:50 PM
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Things change all the time, although I don't think looking at the past would be a reliable indicator of what the future will be like. The opulent hedonism dominating Western culture will likely fall by the wayside as climate change and shortages of resources become more acute. The progressive and liberal ideals commonly associated with the Blue Pill have also been under attack and under siege as of late. Geopolitically, the global balance of power appears to be in a state of flux and shifting aw…
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 01:32 PM
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You make some interesting points, although there may be a question as to whether the secularization you refer to is a root cause, in and of itself, or the result of other possible factors. Industrialism begat liberalism not because of any conscious intention to reject religion (although that would come later), but mainly because industrialists could create better processes and build better weapons. So, national leaders at the time realized they couldn't be left behind, so they made allowances an…
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 02:04 PM
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WOMEN DO NOT Women do not Any woman on planet earth Women are really sensitive to I agree some of the scenarios posited here might seem implausible and quite likely contrived, although I couldn't help but notice the familiar pattern about making blanket generalizations about an entire group of people. I seem to recall many criticizing RP for saying "all women are like that," and yet, you're as much as confirming a belief that, yes, all women are a certain way.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 12:32 PM
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"Texas she's nice, but Georgia's oh so sweet."
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 11:58 AM
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Her phone died. "Try turning it on." "No! It DIED!" Actually "my phone died" is a convenient excuse on a lot of occasions. It's become the new "my dog ate my homework."
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 02:26 PM
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I kind of figured that the whole "slut-shaming" trope was a bit of a put on, so I'm not surprised by these results.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 02:03 PM
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I don't know how much of an impact AI girlfriends will have on real world relationships, although it could cut into the camgirl fanbase, instagram, onlyfans, etc. They'll probably see some of their revenue streams dry up as AI can replace them.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 12:56 PM
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What does porn do for anyone that is worth while? It's entertainment, just like any movie or TV show. I'm a big believer in free speech and freedom of expression, so I don't favor banning anything. However, given the context of the argument, one could argue that romantic comedies probably do more damage than porn.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 12:42 PM
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I would suggest the possibility that there could also be a political motive, as I've observed that the general thrust of their position is to foster politically correct positions and perceptions about society and the world at large. It's been going on for 20-30 years, and the tactics of ridicule and disingenuous sanctimony are starting to reach diminishing returns from becoming cliche from overuse. One can discern certain political shifts and an increased number of people reacting against the su…
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 12:44 PM
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I dream of the time I get to put my selfish parents on trial, A lot of people might wish for that. There is a good deal of truth to what you say. My own parents were a piece of work. Interesting to see the bluepillers here issuing outright denials that in this world, there might be parents who might be abusive, negligent, or otherwise bad parents. This just doesn't happen in the Blue Pill world, where parenthood is considered sacrosanct and beyond reproach. Parents always know best, because afte…
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 01:43 PM
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It would probably be hell for the kid, too. He won't know who his real daddy is.
/r/AllPillDebate08/09/23 02:00 PM
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All I see is guys who despise women and are virgins on purpose and weird people who could easily make their life better if they changed their goofy way of thinking Is that all you see? What I've noticed over the past decade or so is a growing trend and counter-reaction against the progressive idealism which took hold in the 60s and 70s and which became prevalent in the political culture in the ensuing decades. Not that I'm saying the pillosphere is overtly political, but it's clear that they're …
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 11:24 AM
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That being said, people would have significantly fewer problems if they'd at least try to understand how things really are instead of just assuming and most importantly, there'd be a lot less bullshit on this subreddit. What I've noticed about this subreddit is that (like the internet in general) it has a culturally diverse array of posters - people posting from all over the world, from different cultures, customs, and ways of living. I think about that whenever I see someone make a remark sugge…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:53 PM
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These things are generally true. If they were not generally true, there would be no "pills" and no need for any discussion of intersexual dynamics. I agree that these things are generally true, and they were just as true long before anyone ever came up with any "pills." What the blue pillers have been trying to pass off is a politically correct fantasy and insisting that that's the real world. For decades, people of that ilk have been tirelessly working to "subvert the dominant paradigm," and mu…
/r/AllPillDebate02/08/23 12:59 AM
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Okay, but either way - "nice" or "not so nice" - the term has still lost its meaning.
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 02:56 PM
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Is there one guy who has all these qualities? Terms like "nice guy" have been overused and misused so much that they lose their original meaning.
/r/AllPillDebate19/07/23 01:55 PM
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For me, the term "friend" might not be correct to describe it, since "friend" implies an ongoing, buddy type relationship. On the other hand, a breakup can still be relatively amicable and they can agree to part "on good terms," but that doesn't mean they'd hang out with each other.
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 02:52 PM
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Women’s supernatural powers are truly stunning Yes, I've noticed this as well. I think they used to call it "women's intuition," but I've seen the same basic concept played out in the debate. Such as their proclaimed ability to detect that "nice guys" are truly evil. But if the man of their dreams becomes abusive, they'll claim that they're not psychic, couldn't have known, since he was too clever and tricky. I wonder why women just can't come out and admit that whatever compass they're using to…
/r/AllPillDebate18/07/23 02:43 PM
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We live in a culture which thrives on hypocrisy. I agree that it's where values don't match one's behavior, but it can also be defined as shifting one's stated principles in different situations. For example, if someone states they believe in gender equality, one might expect that to be applied consistently in all aspects of society. But if they switch back and forth between one or the other based on convenience, then that would break the threshold of hypocrisy, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:22 PM
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Are you new to this subreddit? No, I've been around. I just don't post very often. No. They just say that hypergamy and feminism ruined women, that all women are like that, and “You women are why boys turn to Andrew Tate”. Honest men would say that, but women routinely lie about these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 12:03 AM
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I know y'all have heard of this new trend called the passport bro movement that's sweeping across the American male gender and it's "alleged" hate it has received from women. Is it really all that "new"? This has been a thing for quite a number of years already, although most of the American men with foreign wives I know are military or former military who were stationed overseas. Another was my cousin, who married a woman from Southeast Asia, although she came to America to go to college and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 02:07 PM
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I don't know who forgives men more for picking crappy women. I don't really see it that much. What I notice more is this: If a woman picks a crappy man, it's because of "all men" or "patriarchy" (or at least, "all men" are expected to take responsibility, as demonstrated by that Gillette commercial). If a man picks a crappy woman, it's only because of that one specific woman who is crappy, while the rest of womankind is wonderful and beyond reproach (and anyone doesn't think that is a "misogynis…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 01:52 PM
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In a sense, they do mock the bad boys, but they call that "patriarchy." In other words, all men are blamed for the actions of a few bad boys, whereas the "nice guys" (real or imagined) are put into a separate category (though still viewed the same in a generic sense).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:41 PM
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Women are not a foundation or an organisation or a state This isn't entirely true. There are organizations of women that exist throughout society. doesn’t mean anyone is obliged to have sex with you Very true, although the bottom line is that no is really "obliged" to do anything, other than follow the law - and even then, a lot of people don't really do it. It's not really so much a matter of sex and some men's struggle with it. Contrary to popular notions, I don't think there are that many men…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:17 PM
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from the TRP perspective, doesn't that essentially mean that more women will need to go back to sleeping with and being sexually loyal to men they are not truly attracted to? "Go back to" what? I would take issue with the premise here, as if this was really a thing at some point back in the day. Too many tend to look at past eras through the lens of the oversexed, hedonistic, orgiastic playgrounds of the current era. Maybe there were some women who didn't really care all that much if they were s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:23 PM
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women had their sex slaves too Which women? When? Well, there's Cleopatra and Catherine the Great, two examples which come to mind. I'm sure there have been plenty of others throughout history. Why would that be so hard to believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 01:22 AM
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I don't know very many passport bros., although I've known quite a few US servicemen who served overseas and came back with foreign wives. I don't think it's all that weird or abnormal, and they seemed to have happy lives. I have seen some opinions where there are men who seem fed up with American women, thinking they're rude, obnoxious, spoiled - even more so than any other nationality. I don't think it has anything to do with being more or less "submissive," since that's a deceptive term anywa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 12:09 AM
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If you click here and scroll down to statistics you can get a bit of an idea why this is so much of a problem. The link addresses the problem of femicides, but I don't see how it relates to the OP's commentary. The stats in your link state that the bulk of the problem of femicides occurs in Africa and Asia, where the society and culture are far more religiously conservative and traditional. It's hardly something that can be blamed on internet algorithms. The same stats also indicate that the maj…
/r/AllPillDebate06/06/23 12:55 AM
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"You're chronically online and social media is only showing you the worst examples of women" I've seen this kind of talk before. Another example is when people say to go out and "touch grass." Are there people out there who truly believe that there is sub-set of men who have never left their basements and never even met a single woman? (Except for their mothers, of course, but mothers often forge a boy's earliest and strongest impressions of women, far more than any online women.) But apart from…
/r/AllPillDebate06/06/23 12:18 AM
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Such attitudes were more common 50+ years ago, but not so much anymore. In any case, if anyone does suggest that a woman might share some responsibility, lots of people (mainly women) get very, VERY upset by it. Such as in your NYT link (which is behind a paywall but I could at least read the headline): "Lawyer in Rape Trial Links Thong With Consent, and Ireland Erupts" So, because of the outrageous and irrational responses to this, one does not hear this kind of talk as much as before. So-calle…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 11:27 PM
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So why are blackpill people still commonly blaming women? I never could understand the line of reasoning behind framing the argument in this way, as if "blaming women" or hating women (misogyny) is somehow the central, most important element in the debate. Even if it were true, what does it even matter? How is relevant to the overall situation being addressed? I think if anyone is being blamed for anything, it's when they attempt to justify a position due to "nature," or natural law, but when it…
/r/AllPillDebate20/05/23 02:42 PM
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It started out as a debate/discussion sub, as noted in the sidebar: PurplePillDebate is a neutral community to discuss sex and gender issues, specifically those pertaining to /r/TheBluePill and /r/TheRedPill. But now, PPD seems to define itself more by what it doesn't want to discuss than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 01:04 PM
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I think a lot of perceptions can be a bit skewed due to mixed messages. Boys might get some advice from their parents, although they'll also get advice from peers, as well as hear the more red-pilled (though politically incorrect) locker room talk that women claim to be offended by. Popular culture (TV and movies) can also influence how boys and young men see dating and relationships. I don't think it's a matter of "not understanding the quiet part," but political correctness seems to also skew …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:40 PM
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Well, it's either that or he could be reacting to cultural perceptions. I've heard many people say that women hate to be treated as sex objects, but then, that view doesn't appear to be consistent among all women - or even among higher class women.
/r/AllPillDebate16/05/23 12:50 PM
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Is the commenter in this picture stating how they think of women, or are they observing that this is how women see themselves "by their own answers and definitions"?
/r/AllPillDebate15/05/23 01:55 PM
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I agree to some extent, at least in the sense that the Earth's population is larger than the available resources needed to sustain them all on a first-world level. I don't think that it would amount to 99.99% of the population being removed, though the alternatives seem almost as bleak.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 02:49 PM
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It may be that humans are becoming more and more expendable, since they exist in much larger quantities today than they ever did throughout recorded history. But even when the population was smaller, it seemed that humans, as a whole, were largely considered expendable - especially those who were considered "other" or outsiders. In more recent times, some human societies have adopted principles such as "liberty, fraternity, equality," and have championed the cause of human rights and civil liber…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 02:16 PM
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How can sex be "not a big deal", while simultaneously being one of the most guarded and gatekept activities that people participate in? It seems that it really isn't a big deal until it becomes one, although our society is filled with contradictions like this. When people are young and unattached, sex is ostensibly viewed as a recreational activity for fun, like scuba diving or a game of tennis. That's why it's often frowned upon to judge a woman's sexual past, since sex is "not a big deal" and …
/r/AllPillDebate02/05/23 01:42 PM
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Fifty years? Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 04:12 PM
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I think the friend zone came about as a relatively recent phenomenon. There was once a time when male-female "friendships" were considered different from friendships among those of the same sex. They were generally discouraged for many of the same reasons we're seeing now (because some people catch feelings which, for whatever reason, complicates the "friendship"). Men and women were never supposed to be "friends" (or even "peers" or "co-workers"), yet in more modern times, women believed that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 01:45 PM
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Already do, now good luck with your inability to ever organize. I really hope someone gets to it soon, but looking at this forum, you’re still going to live through an age of higher completed suicide rates and the majority of the homeless population looking like you. I think you misunderstand me. I don't think that the MRA type of men will ever get organized, for a variety of reasons, some of which I've pointed out here. As I noted above, there are a variety of different viewpoints in the manosp…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 04:50 AM
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No one is expecting an invisible group of women to come in and fix these issues. As for your question about what role women should play in gender liberation, a good place to start would be: Practice what you preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 04:20 AM
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I think you’re missing that men can be against heteropatriarchy and still understand the concept as an organizing principle, which acknowledges women’s role in gender liberation. Yes, I think I acknowledged that, although I think the primary complaint from those who are against the old order is that, by and large, women aren't living up to their role in gender liberation. Although the door has clearly been opened for them, most women just won't walk through it. Look at some of the thread titles …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:15 AM
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If men in these forums and movements can’t fathom heteropatriarchy or other power dynamics, how are they going to get off the ground? If they can’t ally with similar movements on the basis of liberation politics, how will they ever survive? I don't think the men's movement is all that cohesive, as there seems to be a variety of different viewpoints, and a lot of it also comes from different cultures and political perceptions. Some men might be invested in traditional conservatism, which might be…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:07 PM
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Why is anyone obsessed with the manosphere or red pill? It's just a site haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 02:11 PM
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Private property is different, as the rules would be set by the property owner. But just "talking to strangers" would not really break the barrier unless it's some kind of harassment. For example, the First Amendment protects panhandlers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:35 PM
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No one in any country has a legal or natural right to talk at strangers. Actually, they do, at least in the United States.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:23 PM
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if all this is true, why do so many men voluntarily enter into and even seek out marriages? Sometimes there are societal and family pressures to conform to a certain way of living. Single men are often viewed as suspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 12:59 PM
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I don't really hate this sub, although some things may be more due to Reddit overall. In the "About" section of the sidebar, it reads: PurplePillDebate is a neutral community to discuss sex and gender issues, specifically those pertaining to /r/TheBluePill and /r/TheRedPill. That may be what it was when it started, but I don't think it's that anymore. Just like the History Channel doesn't have history anymore, it's similar with Purple Pill Debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 02:46 PM
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Do too many “unpaired” men cause societal instability? I wouldn't consider it to be a direct cause, nor is it necessarily related to being "unpaired." However, being unpaired can be one of many factors which might cause more detachment from society. Those who have little to no stake in the continuation of society tend to put little to no effort in supporting it. Though this wouldn't automatically lead to instability, it could lead to weaknesses and vulnerabilities which could be taken advantage …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 01:57 PM
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There's something missing in this analysis: there is an unspoken reason why some men thrive in the modern world and others flounder, why some are chill and others are bitter. There's probably a number of reasons why some people thrive and some flounder. A lot of it probably has to do with upbringing. Those raised in warm, loving households tend to do better than those raised in broken homes or otherwise abusive, dysfunctional families. Those born in wealthy families tend to do better than those …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 02:16 AM
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I think "the friend zone" is an abstraction, but it exists as a concept, at least in the sense that there are men who are friends with women but want to be more than just friends. I think there's division between men and women about the concept because it's a consequences of the changes in social dynamics which has taken place in the past half century. There was once a time when men and women, boys and girls - didn't really mix and intermingle with each other except for the purposes of dating an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 03:09 AM
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I guess the $2 bill has had a bit of a shady reputation and history, but it does exist. Here's some unrelated trivia: https://www.cnbstl.com/about-us/news/the-history-of-the-two-dollar-bill
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:33 PM
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The actual phrase is "as phony as a three-dollar bill."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 12:38 PM
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People will post whatever insults/trolls they believe will strike a nerve and piss people off. That's why they call them "cheap shots," and they're never meant to be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 02:34 PM
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I think we may be talking about different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 09:33 PM
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I'm not sure that TRP has any real genuine political agenda. What I've observed is that they recognize the society they live in and the politics which govern it. If they have any agenda, it's to adapt to the current situation in order to achieve maximum utility for themselves. Is it political for me to think that most women don’t have problems reconciling their sexual urges with their familial needs? Not necessarily that. There have been those arguing against what they perceive as "sexist notion…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 02:23 PM
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How men here think most women are only applies to the 10-20% of toxic women you went to hs with. You noticed them cuz they were hot. Think of how many booksmart/drama club dweeb women were silently walking around your hs. It's not really that, as many of these discussions tend to ignore the monumental changes which have occurred in the culture over the past half-century or so. Women have not been silent - and it's not just the 10-20% who are "hot," but many who have a political agenda. The under…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 01:57 PM
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It’s the sexist notion I think this phrase points up the reasons why it's often pointless to debate these issues, since this reveals a political agenda at work. You're not arguing about what the reality actually is, but you're arguing against other people's (allegedly "sexist") perceptions of reality. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but all your talk about "stats" is essentially meaningless when the real issue amounts to a philosophical difference and divergent perceptions of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 01:33 PM
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Does my privilege prevent me from understanding the issues brought up in this sub? I see a variety of issues raised in this sub, many are about social and political issues, although it seems a good many posters tend to try to personalize it to their own or someone else's individual situation. So, that may be where the "whiny" part comes in. I don't know what level of privilege you might have enjoyed growing up, though I don't think it's really a matter of privilege. At least in my observation, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 01:15 AM
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If so, do you think that appealing to morality will make us change our ways? I think what you're identifying is a general trend and a oft-used tactic which focuses on a variety of social and political issues, not only gender issues. Some people refer to it as "shaming tactics," or sometimes it can be called the tactics of ridicule. The people who tend to use such tactics can themselves be labeled as "SJWs" or "woke" or "politically correct" - positions which might also be considered morally ques…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 01:48 PM
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I don't know if it's technology that caused the death knell of unions in the west. Unions may have faced stiffer competition from overseas workers, leading to many jobs being transferred abroad, though this was enabled by political changes which were more favorable to free trade and globalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 01:49 PM
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These are phenomenon that most RP supporters complain about. A lot of what they complain about is a result of late capitalism. But most RP men are libertarian or lean anti-socialist. Why is this? I don't know if the issue is capitalism or the instances where society has tended to deviate from it. For the most part, at least in the west, capitalism has shown to be beneficial to the working classes, at least during the middle to late part of the 20th century. The strength of labor unions tended to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 01:56 PM
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Seeing continuous men in my life and in general fail to take care of their families and do their duty as husbands hearing my friend say that women are to blame was surprising for me. If you're not living in a Western country, many of the cultural concepts raised regarding this topic may be confusing and/or "surprising" for you, as you put it. What you're referring may be more a matter of one's duty and moral/societal obligation - for a man being expected to take care of and provide for his wife …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 01:08 PM
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I don't buy all this "I found Mr.Perfect and now I'm gonna talk to incels on Reddit for entertainment" stuff Yeah, I've wondered about this myself. A plethora of married women claiming to be in perfect relationships spending most of their time on Purple Pill Debate?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 12:13 PM
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Note: I am not advocating for that, just saying that it’s historically typical for the majority to be managed. For most of recorded history, this has been true, although in the past couple of centuries, since the advent of industrialism, the job has gotten far more delicate. And there's a much larger population than we've ever had to deal with. Geopolitical instability, climate change, energy shortages, supply chain troubles, internal political squabbles...with all that going on, I'm sure there …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:52 AM
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Because this is the definition most people are thinking of when discussing Nice Guys Only for those "most people" who spend most of their time in internet echo chambers - and even then, only for the past 5-10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 12:49 AM
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Your business is being a contemporary male and encouraging other men away from misogyny. Women have far more influence and success at encouraging and persuading other men than the average man would have.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 01:03 PM
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Then can we stop the moral posturing? That's a good point. I think most people accept the basic idea that life is not fair, but many have also been raised with liberal ideals such as equality and notions that life should be fair for everyone. And, as you note, it's accompanied by so much moral posturing and sanctimony that it has affected the overall dialogue and narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:57 PM
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I hope you can see the hypocrisy of this. I can't speak for the OP, although the OP may have hinted at some degree of hypocrisy on the part of women who tend to blame men, as a group, for this thing they call "toxic masculinity." There seems to be this big societal/cultural push lately to fight toxic masculinity (among other things), and if that's what the people want, then so be it. But the OP raises the point that, maybe there's more than a few women whose hearts just aren't in that particular…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 01:49 PM
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But then how do they tell the difference between the shitty ones and the decent ones Much of the time they can't. That's why there are so many victims of domestic violence, abuse, rape, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:07 PM
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who cares? I think that should be the motto of Purple Pill Debate. An entire subreddit dedicated to the apathetic and disinterested.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:05 PM
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I think it's probably a bit of both - social skills and looks. Grooming and appearance may also relate to social skills. However, this line jumped out at me. The problem is that having social skills is the ultimate proof of being a trustworthy person. Really? Every politician, con artist, and salesman could be living proof that this statement is absolutely wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 11:28 AM
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She's in high school and already slept with 36 men?!?!?!?!? Yeah, and she's 23 and hasn't graduated from high school yet?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/04/22 02:15 PM
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Well, yes, I agree with taking precautions to decrease the risks. That's why many people lock their doors, have alarms, security cameras - and some even carry firearms. But I was more addressing the point about "men who give off dangerous/creepy vibes." There are cases where the vibes might be wrong, where women might see danger where there isn't any, or they might not see danger where there is. I don't know that they need therapy, as the OP suggests, but perhaps a closer examination of these "v…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 02:38 PM
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Girls are taught to be cautious around men and to avoid any men who give off dangerous/creepy vibes. I hear women say this quite frequently, but then one may well ask: What constitutes a dangerous or creepy vibe? Whatever compass or instinct a woman might use to detect danger - does it even work? I've heard some serial killers described as "charming" and "charismatic" (Ted Bundy, Charles Manson). Many victims of rape and domestic violence say they didn't see it coming and "I thought he was diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 02:05 PM
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I'm say, go. No one will care. It seems you're making quite a flurry of posts and impassioned pleas to try to convince others that "no one cares." If you don't care, then why do you care so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 12:54 PM
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This is like asking “why don’t you like budLite you SAID you liked beer”. Actually it's the opposite: "Why do you say you hate beer when you say you love Bud Lite?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:34 AM
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But I'm still not sure how to create a social system that is optimal for the whole, men and women; but that isn't built on a vast number of women having to regularly sleep with men they are not attracted to. Okay, I can see what you're saying. Back during the early days of the industrial revolution, the industrial societies were far more prudish and felt that the only purpose of marriage and sex was for procreation. As the line goes, women were told to "close your eyes and think of England." Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 02:24 PM
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Ewww.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:27 PM
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The dominant interpretation now is that the aggressive mice killed off the beautiful mice, and that is what caused societal collapse. Just out of curiosity, how does one define a "beautiful mouse"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:23 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean by "female erotic sacrifice." However, among other things, human politics can be viewed as making sacrifices for a greater good, with the expectation that one's own life (or that of their families) would be improved and elevated in the process. The main source of conflict which can cause rifts and breakages of the social contract is when there are those who believe they are making too much of a sacrifice for too little reward, while viewing others as making too little …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 12:55 PM
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Before you fix marriage, you have to fix a popular culture overly focused on sex, where genders are more incompatible. You need a culture more focused on long term, less dopamine-ridden pleasures. You may need to re-invent communities and extended families. That's a pretty big fix, and it seems that it's politically nonviable - at least for the time being. Our culture was probably more rooted in tradition in earlier times, yet it was women who decided they didn't want that anymore. Western men l…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 12:13 PM
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But some guys will use the fact I am in a casual relationship with a man 15 years older than me as "proof" of their cringe beliefs. I don't think many actually believe those "cringe beliefs." The standard rule most people follow is "half your age plus 7." So, a man of 50, if we halve that and add 7, we end up with 32. As long as he's with a woman who is 32 or over, there's no "age gap." That's been the conventional wisdom for as long as I can remember.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 02:15 PM
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I'm not kidding - you RUN away from a woman like this. You stay as far away as you possibly can from a woman like this. Don't even entertain the possibility of dealing with her. Don't talk to her. Don't listen to her. Don't get into her presence and if you find yourself there, don't stay there. Get away and stay away from her. This is exactly right. I've known women like this, and not only is it an emotional rollercoaster - ranging from endless crying fits to fits of blind rage - any man with a …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/10/21 03:06 AM
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Occasionally, there are some topics which interest me here, although I don't spend that much time on it. There are other issues, other topics, other events in the world which might have greater importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:53 PM
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If men died a lot in wars in the past, wouldn’t that mean a lot of families were characterised as being a single mother household? No, they would probably be characterized as widowed mother households, assuming they were married. "Single" means "never married."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 12:36 PM
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"Catholic preferred" "Single mother by choice" I think there's some kind of disconnect here that she may not be aware of.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/09/21 01:12 AM
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So older men manipulating minor girls: not a problem? In situations where older men manipulate minor girls, my first question would be: Where are the parents of these minor girls? Teenage girls can be very willful, going against against good advice and defying parental authority. Are we supposed to feel sorry for someone who plays with fire and gets burned, even if they are still minors?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 02:09 PM
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Run away!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/08/21 12:42 AM
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What is that thing in the text, where it says "I've never met an ___ I didn't like"? I can't tell what it's supposed to be.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/06/21 03:08 AM
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If he had to put a restraining order on her, then I would guess she must have been stalking him. She also mentioned it was her "last ex," as there's obviously more than one. This one is definitely bad news.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/06/21 03:07 AM
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"Expected mother." Was anyone expecting her?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/06/21 12:18 PM
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The end result is a slowly decaying society, of unambitious men in low energy state; equally harmful to the state, as their economy takes heavy hit from those men. Maybe it'll be like that. Who can predict the future? There may be larger gaps in disparity between the haves and the have-nots. If some charismatic, popular figure comes on the scene to rile people up, then you might see some things happening. The public seems primed for that, which is why a lot of people made a big thing about Trump…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 03:10 PM
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And she'll get plenty of carbs and cheese.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/06/21 05:41 PM
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A lot of women talk about men and sex in the same way conspiracy theorists talk about the CIA or Area 51. They think that men are involved in some conspiracy or insidious plot to trick them into having sex and then leaving - as if men are planning it all along. I don't believe this is the case most of the time. Maybe they went in with honest intentions, but for whatever reason decided that she wasn't the one. I think if a woman gives a man a strong enough incentive, he'll stick around for a rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:12 PM
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"Single" means "never married." Once one is married, they can never be "single" again. Then, it's either divorced or widowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 11:37 PM
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I had to look up how much 28 stone was. 392 pounds.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/06/21 02:34 AM
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Narniafox is from Russia, Russia is not exactly a place I imagine teeming with liberal propaganda. Most of what liberals and progressives consider "woke" nowadays started out as Soviet propaganda almost a century ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 01:16 PM
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And they say men are the ones who are afraid of commitment...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 12:16 PM
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Please tell me how I'm mistaken. At this point I'm just looking for an excuse not to feel like I'm being treated like a kid. I don't think the notion is about not being capable of making the choices that are best for them. I think it's more a matter of, when women do make bad choices, they routinely fail to take responsibility for those bad choices. In fact, it's even become politically incorrect to hold them to their own bad choices, as they call that "blaming the victim." Moreover, the prevail…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 01:49 PM
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I've always understood "single" to mean "never married." Once you get married, you can never be "single" again. Then it's either "divorced" or "widowed." There was once a time when single mothers were referred to as "unwed mothers."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/05/21 01:04 AM
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What I want to say is that the cultural notions of masculinity and femininity are forcing men and women to be put inside these boxes. I'm not sure that anyone is truly being forced, although I suppose that may be the case in some cultures in other parts of the world. In Western culture, the ideas of masculinity and femininity seem to be in a state of flux. The confusion seems to be over what specific aspects have fallen by the wayside (or considered old-fashioned or politically incorrect) versus…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/21 02:07 PM
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Do women like men who cheat at cards?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/21 11:37 PM
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WHAT THE HELL IS THIS MADNESS? Reminds me of the girlfriend in Spinal Tap, when she's showing everybody this chart, "Saturn's in the third house, and it's a bit rocky."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/05/21 07:26 PM
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I've always thought it was a potential safety hazard to have a glass near a hot tub or pool.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/05/21 12:47 PM
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I couldn't listen past 0:53. It was just too much. I would tell her to go jump in the lake.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/05/21 02:28 AM
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Sometimes I find myself having the same reaction as the cat in the picture. But I still enjoy the commentary. There's a good balance of humor, but also a serious side. This is one of the few subreddits I lurk regularly.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/04/21 02:46 PM
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"Leave me on red"? Leavin' on red, vitamin C and cocaine - all a friend can say is ain't it a shame
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/04/21 12:20 AM
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but what do you offer? Mountain Dew.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/03/21 12:31 AM
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daycare “teacher”. aka "babysitter"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/03/21 01:13 AM
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I never could understand the whole "Men are intimidated by strong women" argument anyway. It's just so wrong on so many levels. What's closer to the truth is that men are irritated by women who think that "strong"="bitchy." Irritated, yes. Intimidated, no.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/02/21 02:38 AM
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I think it's also the same with auto mechanics, plumbers. Some might have friends who can give them free tickets or other perks.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/02/21 02:43 PM
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Brand Ambassador = MLM Thanks, I was wondering what that meant. Brand Ambassador sounds much more high falutin'.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/02/21 11:16 PM
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One point I would raise in response to this woman's complaints is that the middle-aged men still remember what these middle-aged women were like in high school and college.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/01/21 02:32 PM
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I understand what you're saying but I think you're missing the point. It's not about the promise or the commitment, but it's about conflicting and contradictory perceptions about the activity itself. When people say sex is "no big deal," they make it seem like it's any ordinary activity, such as going bowling or giving a co-worker a ride home after work. But it's really not "no big deal," is it? This is another variation of the "rules for thee but not for me" mentality which abounds among women …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 03:23 PM
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All this is beside the point. You said the OP was holding women to different standards than men, which is what I was addressing. Women don't hold themselves to their own standards. That's what is being addressed. Getting cheated on in a relationship and having casual sex are two different things. Only in your own imagination. Religion makes it easy: No sex outside of marriage. Once you decide you're going to break that rule, you can't very well add your own ad hoc "rules" and expect to be taken …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 01:38 AM
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In all these scenarios the men posting these always create connotations that women are being used for sex and that they should be held to different standards than men. I don't see it that way. More often than not, the men here complain that women don't hold themselves to their own standards. On the one hand women say "it's no big deal, it's just sex," and then later on they say "He's horrible! He CHEATED on me!" Either it's "no big deal" or it's not. It can't be both, yet women can't seem to mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 01:17 AM
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First thing she says is that she put the wrong age in the thread title. I've noticed this is an odd practice that women have. One sees it a lot in dating profiles, where the title has an age but they say "oh, it's the wrong age, I'm actually (older)."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/12/20 07:24 PM
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Wow, that's a very weird subreddit. And they allow it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 06:52 PM
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I wondered if they have to give a portion of that to the agency they work for. Either way, it appears these men can make some pretty decent scratch.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/12/20 07:41 PM
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Is there a fee schedule? I'm just curious as to how much they charge, and how much do they have to pay their pimpettes?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/12/20 05:17 PM
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Thanks, I was wondering the same thing. I thought it might have been "dumb bell," but I think that particular put-down has gone out of style.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/12/20 12:06 PM
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I thought about that, too, but I found a different source for this story: https://theshillongtimes.com/2020/08/21/wife-seeks-divorce-from-perfect-husband/ The Sharia court cleric, expectedly rejected her plea for divorce, terming it as frivolous. When the Sharia court refused to grant her divorce, the woman took up the matter with the local panchayat which also expressed its inability to decide the issue. Meanwhile, the woman’s husband said he loved his wife and always wanted to keep her happy. …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/12/20 10:32 PM
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Hence the photo of the lardmonster? I was thinking the same thing. She is a horror movie.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/12/20 02:48 AM
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Unless you work for Victoria's Secrets, its a statistical implausibility that all of your female work mates are dating 'chads'. If 'Chads' are the top 20%, then we're looking at what 0.28 = 0.000256% chance? Maybe they're all dating the same 'Chad'.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 02:29 PM
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unaroused sex with someone youre not attracted to is violative and disgusting for women. I believe you, although this is more about what people would do for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 02:21 AM
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Well, as I said in the other thread, I don't agree with this view. From what I'm gathering here from you and other women posting, the idea of being penetrated is something straight men don't generally understand or can't relate to. I can appreciate that, but what it would mean is that there is no comparison, in which case your title question would have to have a negative reply. In other words, it's not a "fair comparison," it's no comparison at all, based on your own argument that the other gend…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 02:08 AM
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It’s gross. Women do it for the resources, stability, and securing a father for her kids. But you implied that it's not gross if women are doing it with men whom they desire. Since women can seek out men they desire (who can also father their kids, if they wish) and gain a career to earn their own resources, I see no reason that women would need to ever be grossed out by anything. Seriously, why do it if it's so disgusting? Men don’t do it with men as much because the only benefit is a nut and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 01:42 AM
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Well, you made it sound so horrible. Yet some women still do it for the money, regardless of how gross it might be. Either the money is just sooooo good that it's enough to nullify the gross factor (because there are some jobs which might be even grosser), or maybe it's not as gross as you're making it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 01:05 AM
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So you're saying that women are grossed out by sex in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 12:42 AM
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Who goes walking around with a message like that on their jacket anyway? She must be a complete loon.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/11/20 03:54 AM
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Every time I read articles like this, I sometimes wonder: Why do these women even want a man in the first place? That's the part that's always missing in these diatribes against men.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/11/20 02:31 PM
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"Probably throw a football better than you"? Is that supposed to impress somebody?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/10/20 01:37 PM
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She's kind of vague as to how she defines "bitter." Younger guys might have more of a care-free, light-hearted attitude, but once you start working in the real world, you have to take on a more serious and sometimes hardened attitude. That might sound "bitter" to some folks, but it's really not. As for guys just "seeing women as objects to satisfy their base desires," I don't see that as a quality limited by age. Is she saying that men younger than 24 never saw women as objects to satisfy their …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/10/20 04:00 AM
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I thought she was in her 60s before I scrolled down and saw her age. Maybe she got hit by a truck.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/09/20 11:48 PM
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why go to a sub and say things that are directly opposed to the subs STATED worldview and content then get surprised youre banned. There are people who do that all the time. Creationists go to forums where the majority of posters subscribe to the Theory of Evolution. Liberals go to conservative forums to argue, and vice versa. Some people just like to stir the shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 02:07 PM
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I see the black pill as one of pure cynicism, the nihilists of the pillosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 01:48 PM
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FDS banned me and I never even posted there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/20 01:35 PM
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There's an idea. A sex doll that has babies. The tech may not quite be there yet, but who knows what they may come up with?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/09/20 01:24 AM
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She says she is "somewhat ambitious." Ambitious to do what exactly?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/09/20 11:22 PM
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It just occurred to me how much it must suck to date a woman who writes articles on dating advice.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/07/20 12:18 AM
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Well, actually, much of the Red Pill is pretty obvious, once the shroud of feminism and political correctness is removed. The "hidden truths" are not hidden at all; they've been known since at least Biblical times (and probably sooner). The main thing that's different nowadays is that, since the rise of feminism, there has been active campaign to try to "reverse the paradigm" and deny that which has been patently obvious for millennia. People are expected to buy into the narrative of the so-call…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 09:53 PM
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about to start welding school? In my observation, most people who say they're "about to start" any kind of school usually don't. Although women oftentimes say they're going to study nursing or dental assistant. "Welding school" is kind of a harder trade, like construction work. A lot of women like to show how tough they are, that they can do a man's job as good as any man.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/07/20 04:10 PM
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I think what strikes me about this is that she's complaining about the kinds of guys who she's attracting, but does that mean she's just sitting there passively waiting to see what comes her way?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/07/20 05:45 PM
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"Hoe in peace" is kind of a catchy phrase.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/07/20 05:42 PM
4

Feminine Deodorant Spray.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 01:44 AM
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Would society return to a traditional state? Strong traditional men with women vetting them and staying less promiscuous? OR will both genders just be in a stew of bitterness and people will segregate to either side and die alone? Some segments of society will continue to push for traditionalism, as they always have. We seem to be heading in a conservative direction, more or less - at least when compared with earlier decades when things seemed more free and easy than they are now. I think most p…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 01:42 AM
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For the increase of sexless men there will be those that have no hope and give up but also those who become betabuxx and feed into non healthy money based relationships. I don't really lurk or post on PPD as much as I used to. For some reason or another, some of the posts here are rather depressing. I can understand a certain degree of despondency and hopelessness. These are rough, uncertain times we're living in. The virus, civil disturbances, a coming election which promises to be one of the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 02:23 AM
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I think it may have something to do with how women approach politics in general. They only really care about women's issues, but when it comes to anything other than that (i.e. economics, foreign policy, immigration, healthcare, or other issues that don't affect women and only women), they don't really care about. It's not that they don't care about "men's issues" (although most men don't even really care about men's issues). Most women simply don't care about any issues that aren't women's issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 02:03 AM
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From the original article this video was based upon, I found this little gem of wisdom: Even if we take our standards, expectations, and delusional hopes off the table and really look at the situation for what it is, we can clearly see that we are not to blame for the lack of good men. No, we have society who can take the blame for this one. Whose society is to blame, though? Is it the so-called "patriarchal" society from way back when? Or has culture and society changed quite a bit since then? …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/06/20 03:35 PM
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I thought this was a telling point from the article: At times I sat at home crying. I asked myself what I’d done wrong. Am I too old? Am I unattractive?’ Of course, she is neither of these things. Well, yes, she is both of those things, actually. The denial is strong here.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/06/20 01:39 PM
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I like how she says "if you're going to be an asshole, tell me that in the beginning." And some guys probably would be upfront and honest about it: "I'm an asshole," but women don't believe that. Just like they don't believe the ones who say they're "nice guys."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/06/20 07:24 PM
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She wants a 500 word essay? I guess someone could write "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" 50 times. She might appreciate that.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/05/20 12:57 AM
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Yeah, although he'll still end up going through a lot of hell before he gets to that point.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/05/20 03:40 PM
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Well, it just doesn't seem like women (especially the ones considered hot) appear to be all that horrified or scared when someone says "she's so hot." In fact, it seems like many of them make an active effort to be seen as hot, even if they're not really that hot. They'll still make the effort just the same. If women were truly making an active effort to avoid or prevent what you regard as "horrifying," then we'd see the cosmetics and fashion industries go bankrupt overnight, along with Instagra…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 02:52 PM
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Having you entire existence, your personality, thoughts, life experiences be ignored and reduced to "she's so hot" sounds fucking horrifying to me. But hey you get free shit, and other trivial things so it's easy mode... When people describe something as "horrifying," it makes me think that they would do anything and everything to avoid/prevent whatever it is they regard as horrifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 02:33 PM
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I feel sorry for her son.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/05/20 01:59 PM
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complaining about something that annoys her to a bunch of strangers and projecting that complaint onto them I was wondering about that myself. I guess while she was composing this ad, she may have been with someone who was chewing with his mouth open. It's kind of an odd thing to complain about in a personal ad.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/05/20 07:33 PM
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"I never put myself before others." Except at the buffet table.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/05/20 04:19 PM
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It was too long, so I didn't watch it. However, I'm somewhat familiar with Friedman. I'm not disagreeing with everything you're saying, but I would question your statement that "unions are communism on a small scale." One could just as easily make the same argument about most corporations.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/05/20 01:23 PM
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Unions operate within the principles of the free market and exercising the right of freedom of association, no different than any other business entity. A business owner has the right to set the price of his goods or services. It's up to the consumer to take it or leave it - or possibly negotiate a better price. Likewise, employees have the right to set the price for their labor - and it's up to the employer to take it or leave it - or negotiate a better price. This can be done privately, withou…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/05/20 12:56 PM
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People on here often say that girls today are super sluts, like no other time in the history of mankind. I'm not so sure if that's true. One thing that seems different today is the overall attitude. I don't know what the stats are to compare from decade to decade, but my sense is that the numbers are comparable. It's been "anything goes" for quite some time now, but one key difference between now and past eras (such as 50 years ago) is back then, the sluts were part of the rebellious counter-cul…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 01:59 PM
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I don't think porn exists in some kind of vacuum. One criticism I often hear about porn is not so much about the sex itself, but about the absurd, almost comical scripts leading up to the sex. Porn is parody. However, as far as what influences people's thinking and leads to unrealistic and/or misguided expectations in relationships would probably be the "rom-coms" or the teenage romance movies where sex is still the main selling point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 01:25 PM
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Has anyone died from any subreddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 02:39 PM
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Whataboutism depends mainly on context and the actual assertion being made. If someone is trying to claim that men and women are equally bad, then it's just a comment on the state of the human race. Humans are scum, for the most part - both men and women. There's no "whataboutism" in that; it's a general comment on all of us. Or, it could be that someone is pointing out these double standards because they believe that all this "equality" crap that feminists keep spouting has been nothing but a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 01:56 PM
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I read that, back at the end of WW2, US troops in Germany could get laid for a pack of cigarettes.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/04/20 03:00 PM
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My impression is that they see it more in terms of perception. They don't deny what they're doing, nor do they feel any shame for it, but their problem with the label is that "whore" sounds like something low-class - something from the ghetto or the trailer parks. They think of a "whore" as a plump, used-up, middle-aged woman with no teeth giving blow jobs to winos for $5 a pop. A lot of them will evaluate themselves based on their clientele - wealthy businessmen, executives, doctors, lawyers, e…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/04/20 03:28 PM
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What would women caring about sexless/struggling men entail? This might be a more interesting question.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 03:00 PM
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Single parenthood may be one of many problems faced by society, but I think you may be overstating perceptions that it's the problem. If anything, I think single mothers might be a symptom of a deeper problem. As for how much tax money is used on this or that, that's a political issue, although it generally comes down to the argument that "it's all for the children." The children aren't responsible, and therefore they shouldn't be punished or deprived of basic sustenance. This is society's view,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 02:48 PM
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The one with the beard.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/04/20 01:07 AM
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What about: HOBBIES PERSONALITY MORALS WORK ETHIC I seldom hear guys here talk about these things when it comes to relationships. Just sex and resources. I guess it depends on what kind of relationship one is looking for. Not all guys are just looking for sex, although regarding the items you list here, plenty of guys in the "friend zone" who can have friendships based on these - just without any sex. (In fact, listening to a lot of women talk, they don't even believe a man who says he's interes…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 02:35 PM
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Well, yes, I guess that would be a problem. There are some sites out there with a more international perspective and country-by-country rundowns as to what dating is like in those countries. But they seem geared towards Western men who are perhaps jaded or disillusioned by the dating scene in the West, so they play the field in other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 12:44 PM
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This creates a certain bias when you visit average dating advice like r/datingadvice, because the advice shared there is most likely from the perspective of someone from america, which is not likely to work in other places, or maybe it does. I can see your point, although the internet is world-wide. If someone wants dating advice which is relevant to their country, why can't they just find a forum based in their own country?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 12:17 PM
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No one gives a shit what's better for society, men are still going to prefer curvy, young women and women will still prefer tall, fit men. True, although nature doesn't typically hold out for "Mr. Right," and nature wouldn't really give them a choice anyway. There's a reason why the male animal is typically stronger and can easily overpower the female. If nature waited around for a female to make up her mind, then all species would die out. And, if a young man sees a woman with Chad, then he mig…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/20 11:28 AM
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With all of this in mind, why do you still play with the fire that might destroy your value in society if you were to make too grand a mistake? – What motivates you to care enough to talk about it and to try to change it? I don't have any hope of changing society or anything so grandiose as that. I came across the manosphere and the red pill several years ago, somewhat unintentionally. I've also encountered quite a few men who like to point out feminist hypocrisy and double-standards, as well as…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:39 PM
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For the sake of discussion, let's say 80% of men will be celibate in the future. Only 20% get to have women. What are the rest of men going to take up to give their lives meaning? What will be the most popular cause? I can't see most of them simply doing nothing and accepting their fate. This could turn incredibly dangerous. History has shown us all it takes is a man with charisma to instill the feeling of revenge on an entire nation. Could something similiar happen to men? Possibly. I think a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 12:08 PM
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How would you feel if your SO was cheating on you but she was so extremely good at it you couldnt tell? I find myself stuck on this part. I know that millions of people cheat and get away with it, or at least, they're extremely good at it that their spouse can't tell - until they get caught or someone tells. That's when the fireworks begin. How does anyone feel when they find out that their SO cheated? I don't think I would get mad about it. It's a free country; if she wants to be with someone e…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 03:45 AM
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I don't know if it's so much "fear" over past lovers, at least not in the sense that they might have bigger penises or more skillful in bed. But there's also the emotional baggage that usually comes with it. If a man displays any characteristic, mannerism, or minor personality quirk which bears even the remotest resemblance to one or more of her exes, then he's going to hear about it. That can be a source of irritation, as it makes one feel as if one is being blamed for something some other guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 03:30 AM
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Obviously I’m biased as a woman but I can’t imagine a world where it isn’t inherently known that women prefer tall, handsome guys (Blackpill) and that they’re disgusted by weak doormats (Redpill). I think it was pretty well-known that women prefer tall, handsome men - although it's also been commonly stated that "men are more visual than women" and that women can also be attracted to men more on an emotional level than a physical one. If women are actually more visual than men, then they do a go…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:35 AM
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God I hate attributing hidden agendas to everything like terps do, but I really have to ask on what you mean by "anti men" and when you use the term "anti men" Well, if you consider the number of times feminists label someone a "misogynist" for every minuscule slight, real or imagined, then you might understand it a little better.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 11:52 PM
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So, this didn't happen in an English-speaking country?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 01:28 PM
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What's really both funny and sad is that they've had to inform people to not call 911 because they ran out of toilet paper.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/03/20 05:41 PM
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3 kids, fat, unattractive, and you'll need to support 4 to be with her - and she writes nothing of what she brings to the table. I think what also strikes me about this is that she says "I want someone who can love me for me," but who is this "me" she wants "someone" to love? They never really seem to say. Is there anything about this "me" which is lovable?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/03/20 05:30 PM
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I think it would largely depend on an individual's view of sex in general. When people are single, they tend to view sex as some kind of recreational activity, as in "it's no big deal, it's just sex." Men aren't supposed to care about how many partners a woman had in her past, because "it's no big deal, it's just sex." But then, suddenly and quite inexplicably, this attitude changes within the context of a "relationship." Suddenly, sex becomes a HUGE deal, and that's where the disconnect and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/20 02:25 PM
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Or transition all together than I’ve ever seen women dressing up as men in their free time. Women dress up as men all the time. Every woman in pants is dressing up as a man, technically speaking. Or those corporate business suits women always wear; look a lot like men's suits.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 08:49 PM
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Again, I get how some men might feel a little butthurt if they aren't hot, but why act like it's illogical? I don't know if anyone acts like it's illogical that women choose to sleep with attractive men, but I think men react against being collectively blamed as a gender just because women choose the wrong men to be with. That's where it becomes illogical. If women would just be honest about it and accept responsibility for their choices, there would probably be fewer complaints from the "manosp…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/20 02:03 PM
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I tend to agree with the OP, although I wanted to comment on this part: How often do people have the self-awareness and integrity to admit they were seduced and played with? Not often enough. I think men are more often willing to admit this, as well as admit to their lust. There's an old joke about a man being caught with a bunch of Playboy magazines and he claims "I only read them for the articles." Of course, nobody ever believes that, but even when men get caught in a honey trap or seduced by…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 01:02 PM
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We all know men aren’t as in demand as women are but could it actually be because they’re not all that good looking? Could be true on college campuses. I think it balances out over time, though. But I'm not sure if even the top tier, good looking men are even considered all that attractive to women - at least in a purely visual sense. I consider that the sales of magazines like Playboy far exceed that of magazines like Playgirl (and gay males represent a good portion of that). Those magazines su…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 12:40 PM
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I have nothing against TRP; I agree with most of it. I don't think their message is all that new or unique, although considering how much of our society has been in some politically correct bubble for so long, it might be needed in order to balance out certain one-sided viewpoints. However, I'm not sure what you mean by "now more than ever." I'm also not sure that people spend 90% of their lives on the internet. Some people might, but a lot of people have other things to do. Another thing to con…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 12:28 PM
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I don't think this sub really has a purpose. I think it originally started out as a debate sub, so that people from Red Pill and Blue Pill could debate topics of mutual interest. As it says under "About": PurplePillDebate is a neutral community to discuss sex and gender issues, specifically those pertaining to /r/TheBluePill and /r/TheRedPill. But in recent years, it's degenerated and become more specialized, focusing more on sex and relationships, not so much on gender issues as a whole. This s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/20 01:07 PM
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How can a woman respect men knowing that they all want to fuck her? I don't know that this is strictly true, at least not for all men. But one thing that seems to get missed in these kinds of discussions is that our culture can probably be defined as "oversexed" to a large degree. Sex sells; it's all over the place. Forget porn, even mainstream TV gets racier and racier with each passing decade. A lot of conservatives complained about the Super Bowl halftime show. People who become bombarded wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/20 04:04 PM
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I thought Berkeley was a left-wing school. I thought they supported the whole Marxist "workers of the world" philosophy. They react violently if anyone to the right of Obama might speak or visit their campus. My guess is that she's a limousine liberal.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/03/20 01:08 PM
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Men, do you believe that you are owed sex from women? Do you think it's something you should get without trying? Do you think that women should be sexually attracted to you? No, I don't think men are owed sex from women. I know that a lot of women seem to believe that this is what men think, but I've never known any man to express such an idea. I think most people recognize that life is unfair, TANSTAAFL, and so forth. Somehow, most people manage to muddle through just the same. Of course, a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 02:41 PM
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I think it's different for religious dating sites, where there are generally more women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/20 02:12 PM
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Yep. Half of reddit is whining and crying, while the other half are whining and crying about those who are whining and crying. Anything else seems to violate some sort of rule around here. Whining and crying is all that's left.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 06:42 AM
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Well, I suppose the difference here is being able to discern a personal lie by an individual, versus a collective lie propagated throughout society. If a woman is lied to by Chad to get into her pants, I don't know if many people would respond "it's your fault." If she wanted to have sex with Chad, then so be it; it's her choice. If she tries to paint the situation later on as "Chad lied to me, otherwise I wouldn't have had sex with him," then isn't it possible that she's lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 06:37 AM
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Wouldn't it make more sense for the anger phase to be directed at "Chad" instead of women? Not sure I agree, although I think the "anger phase" has become something of a caricature these days. However, I've sensed a certain amount of anger directed at other men, although not necessarily "Chad" (which is another caricature). I agree that they shouldn't be angry at women (although that might depend on how one defines or perceives "angry"), but I don't see why they should be angry at "Chad," either…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 05:57 AM
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I don't think there's ever been any problem with men and women being friends. I'm not sure that's the issue. I think what we're seeing now, in terms of male-female "friendship" is the more feminist-influenced idea that women can be men's "drinking buddies" and be "one of the boys." So, it's more of a politically correct thing. In the old days, a man might have a girlfriend or wife, but he would usually have a male best friend or circle of friends. The idea of a man and woman being platonic "best…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 05:14 AM
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I doubt that a lot of women in general can feel this "instant lust" to anyone, read some posts here where women are asked about their sexual attraction, there are always a lot of answers in lines of "I need to know a person in order to be attracted to him". So, looks aren't as important to women as some people say?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/20 01:27 PM
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Well, I think the only solution is to introduce a Federal Dating Subsidy (FDS). Young couples out on dates no longer need worry about "who pays," since Uncle Sam can pick up the tab. A couple goes into a restaurant and tells them they're on a date, and the restaurant would be required by law to give them a free meal. They can send the bill to the US government. Same thing if they go to the movies or anything else. Let's just put this matter to rest once and for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:29 PM
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I don't think men are necessarily getting "weaker." However, many seem to be getting more twisted, amoral, nihilistic, and narcissistic these days. Sure, there were plenty of bullies and fights back in the day, although even in the "toxically masculine" world of John Wayne and old western gunfighters, men and boys were strongly encouraged to not go out and start fights, but to be ready to finish a fight if they have to. I remember talking to an older former LA gangbanger, and he thought that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 01:11 PM
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Also, I will offer to pay half if I have no interest in a guy. If you have no interest in a guy, why would you be even going out with him at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/20 02:47 PM
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My hypothesis is that for the vast majority of angry boys / MGTOW losers, they either didn't have a dad in the home or they had a weak, ineffectual beta dad who was whipped by the mom. There may be some truth to this, but I don't see how this, in and of itself, would be a direct contributor to the so-called "anger phase." For one, having an angry, rebellious phase is actually pretty normal for young men. It's almost like a rite of passage for every generation. But I take it you're not just refer…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 12:57 AM
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No, I don't think the reason men are angry (at least in the context of the pillosphere) has much to do with Chad. Sure, there have always been those who might be slightly envious of "Chad," but I think most men who aren't Chad know they aren't Chad. I actually think the real reason men are angry today is because for much of their lives they've been told that "women are equal to men" and that women are "strong and independent." But those are lies, induced by feminism and political correctness. On…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/20 12:15 AM
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Let's say that every time you leave your house, I'm just curious as to where these places are, where people walk down the street and are constantly harassed by pushy, aggressive, ugly, fat, smelly, creepy people who won't take no for an answer? I believe that it happens, but I'm skeptical as to the frequency, as well as finding myself wondering whether the guys in question are truly as hideous and ugly as you're making them out to be. It sounds like you live in a city of mutants, so maybe your b…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/20 01:15 PM
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I don't agree that they "can't" empathize with each other, but I would say it's more a matter of enough people thinking that these issues just aren't important enough in comparison to issues and problems facing society as a whole and which affect both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 02:06 PM
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sentient vaginas Sounds like a good name for a band.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/20 04:09 AM
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I hope I'm not attacking a strawman here, but from what I've seen in r/MGTOW, PPD, TRP, and FDS, people are obsessed with putting men and women on an even playing field, when they're not equal (to each other) to begin with. I'm not sure that "fair" or "equal" are really the issues here, at least with the subreddits you list here. I think they're seeking ways of "How do I adjust/adapt to the current conditions?" When people talk about "fairness" or "equality," they're really talking about politic…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 01:37 PM
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Despite the oft-repeated myth that "men only have one thing on their minds," men actually do think about other things and have other interests besides sex ("good" or otherwise). It used to be said that "a way to a man's heart is through his stomach," but there may still be some truth to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 01:13 PM
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It's "consistent" inasmuch as it conforms to the overriding perception that every "white, Christian, heterosexual male = oppressor," while everyone else is "oppressed." They believe this so fervently and devoutly that they honestly can't see themselves as anything but enlightened and progressive, just as they can't perceive any hypocrisy, double-standards, illogic, or inconsistencies in their stated principles (which aren't to be taken seriously anyway).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 12:41 PM
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Every man wants to be associated with 'building civilisation' though. And get credit for it, even if it was done before they were born. I don't think it's really like that, although feminists often blame men as a collective group for the "Patriarchy" and openly expect the "good men" to police and shame the "bad men." But the way I see it, if men are going to be collectively blamed as a group, then I don't see why there should be a problem with men collectively taking credit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 12:30 PM
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I don't see Blue Pill as malicious. In my view, it appears to be a repackaged version of Political Correctness. Anyone who does not fall within the capricious and randomly-defined limits of Political Correctness gets lumped into the "basket of deplorables." I don't think they see themselves as "malicious." Quite the opposite, they appear to be one of many manifestations of what is often referred to as "call out culture." They probably see themselves as crusaders, "fighting the good fight" agains…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/20 12:16 PM
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I don't think I would be in the same category as those who endlessly complain about "Chad" or hypergamy or other things like that. As far as women's selection criteria, they'll have to review that for themselves. As far as I can tell, women are complaining much, much more about their choices in men than any men are. I've heard and read numerous complaints from women who say they've been abused by former partners, who were pumped and dumped, treated like dirt by men, cheated on - along with any n…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/20 01:45 PM
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Why should anyone care about anyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 11:56 AM
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Small man hitting you is different Not in a society where the genders are considered equal. Equality means equality, no exceptions. It's either that, or let's go back to the dark days of the dreaded "Patriarchy."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/20 03:22 PM
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Mine too, but sometimes I check in every so often to see if anything has changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 12:10 PM
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That's pretty much true for every topic that does get raised here. Come on, what's your real objection?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 11:52 AM
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Can we ban " why should I get married" threads? Why? Does it touch a nerve? You guys here in this sub seem to want to ban any topic that somehow disturbs this insulated adolescent fantasy world you've wrapped yourselves up in.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 11:45 AM
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Do men want women more than women want men? It seems that way, to a large extent, although I don't think every man has the same level of testosterone or sex drive. Some men are perpetual horndogs and always on the make, while others are not quite so intense about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 02:16 PM
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Do you agree or disagree? If you disagree, what other motives have you seen or had for pushing someone's boundaries, and how did it turn out? I don't think having boundaries, in and of itself, would make people angry or offended, so I wouldn't agree with the premise of the statement. I think it's when "boundaries" are introduced capriciously, randomly, inconsistently, and/or arbitrarily - without any real rhyme or reason - that may be when people might show irritation or start to call BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/20 01:47 PM
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Understand this, you are 100% reliant on women from birth until about 13. In my case, you're wrong on this point right off the bat. A lot of kids have to fend for themselves much earlier in life than 13 - or they depend on an older sibling more than their female parent. Ever hear of "latchkey children"? As for your question, yes I think men do appreciate the roles that women have traditionally played in the past - and many men (and even some women) believe that society would be much better off i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 01:34 PM
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if nazis are so powerful, why dont the allies just recruit them? They did, and called it West Germany.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 06:50 PM
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Lol as if men care about women. Men hate women and they don't care if they were raped or abused, they're far more likely to believe that it was her fault in some way. Okay, so if that's how you see it, then what's the problem? Why do other women complain about these things, and why should men care?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 01:52 PM
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why should I or any other woman care? Mainly because women want men to care about them. Either that, or they want men to BELIEVE them when they claim they were raped or abused. Why should men care about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 01:43 PM
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Did the sexual revolution harm society? If it harmed society, it may be because society wasn't really ready for it. While it may have been intended "for mature audiences only," our society is at the maturity level of middle school students giggling at sex ed videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 11:59 AM
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Would they be less masculine in a conventional/traditional sense? you know where I'm getting at: masculinity might be at least in part a product of men trying to make themselves attractive to women because that's what women look for in a partner. Without that pressure how less masculine would you think they'd turn out to be? It might be something like it was back in the 70s when the "sensitive male" was a thing. It didn't seem to last very long, as I don't think it really caught on. Women didn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/19 07:40 AM
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I think it largely depends on the religion. There's a certain religious-based, traditional viewpoint which idolizes the relationship between mother and child as something sacred and holy. Regardless of the sins of the mother, the child is still regarded as innocent, fostering the belief that it would be unfair to punish the child for what the mother did. I remember a discussion I had a while back in a Catholic forum, and there were many who argued that it was a noble and holy act for a man to ma…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/12/19 05:03 PM
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Why is it women aren't angry about being lied to compared to men who took the media at face value? Women might get angry about different things in the media. Like when they say that super-skinny models in fashion magazines lead young women and girls to starve themselves - that kind of thing. Both genders seem to have their own particular axe to grind against the media - along with every political and religious faction out there. I think the problem might be that many of us watched too much TV gr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 01:20 PM
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We've already talked about sentencing disparities, are there others in your opinion? In terms of legal issues, I've seen a multitude of complaints about family court, custody disputes, divorce/alimony - that sort of thing. But your question also seemed to relate to the manosphere and all the endless complaining about feminism. One of the central ideas of feminism is that "women are equal to men." Those who complain about seem to either believe that it isn't true and never will be, or they believ…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 01:33 AM
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A large percentage of the complaints about feminism seem to relate to double standards which appear to favor women. That wouldn't account for all the complaints against feminism, but a good percentage of them. Some men actually do favor the idea of equality. Some men like the idea of women being strong and independent. But that also means holding women to the same standard which would be held if they were men. That's apparently what feminists want, but then they're the ones who complain the loud…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/19 12:17 AM
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Egalitarianism. Equality means equality, no exceptions. That would resolve most of the current complaints about feminism from the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/19 11:39 PM
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The majority of those who complain about women not being direct enough or not approaching are simply not getting women interested in them. That may be true in some cases. But I don't think the complaint in today's era really has much to do with that. If we were living in more "traditional" times where gender roles were strictly defined, then you'd have a point, but not in this day and age.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 03:06 PM
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I've never studied feminism as an ideology, so I don't look at it the same way one with a "gender studies" degree would. I was introduced to feminism at an early age, or as they called it back then, "women's liberation." I later came to understand that that was the period known as "second wave feminism," which my mother embraced wholeheartedly and appeared to be the "in" thing for its time. A lot of things changed. You weren't supposed to say things like "chairman." It had to be "chairperson." T…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 02:55 PM
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It's not that they're necessarily bad at it, they often play these games to test whether a man is able to keep up and make the first move. It's just a way of weeding out the dumb, passive and socially backward guys. There may be a lot of truth to what you say, although the irony is that, by and large, it's the women who complain loudest about the consequences of this particular philosophy that they hold so near and dear to their hearts. As far as I'm concerned, when women openly embrace this men…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 01:51 PM
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looks at posts above Nope, no shit talking there. Curious. They probably just saw the first three words "Women are bad," stopped reading, and then downvoted right then and there. It seems to be a pretty typical pattern in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/19 01:25 PM
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People with no experience with something should not pretend to be experts on that thing. Why not? It seems a pretty normal thing in life. We have armchair quarterbacks who seem to know more about playing a sport than the coaches or athletes. We have armchair politicians who comment and speculate endlessly about things they can't possibly know much about. Or we have those who comment on wars or the conduct of our military, only to be met with someone who says "I was in 'Nam, pal! You don't know w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 01:28 PM
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"cishet" I never could understand why some people feel the need to invent and use bogus jargon terms like that. It causes them to lose credibility. Why can't SJWs ever speak like normal human beings?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 01:10 PM
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In an overpopulated world of over 7 billion, it doesn't appear likely we'll run out of people any time soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 01:06 PM
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Why should women care about the sexual and dating issues of men? Well, there's no particular reason to care about men in general (or about anything outside of yourself). But there are some women who seem to complain a lot about men, for whatever reason. Maybe it's over that #metoo business or "something something patriarchy," so perhaps those women should care. Because they might actually have to interact with men someday. They might even actually want to be with a man someday, so it pays to kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/19 12:03 AM
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This is like going to homeless people and ask them how pull yourself out of homelessness. You wouldn't necessarily ask them how to pull themselves out of homelessness, but you might gain an inkling as to how they ended up homeless in the first place. That may be useful information. Do you really expect viable answers from those subs? Or why are you active here? I suppose that this is no the only sub you're active on. I don't think anyone can get any answers from this or other subs in this genera…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 12:10 PM
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She's a bowling trophy for the most 7-10 splits in a row.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/11/19 01:44 PM
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Yeah, I suppose "culture" would work as well. But I was also thinking of other usages, such as "Humane Society." It's not really "society," of course, but the term is used in the sense of an "organization." "Culture" is not really any kind of "organization," so perhaps society = culture + organization?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 02:23 PM
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The more basic dictionary definition of "society" seems more politically neutral than anything else: "the aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community." If someone wanted to discuss the "society" of Ancient Rome, it wouldn't imply any political connotations. I don't understand the resistance to using a very basic word. What other term would you use?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 01:58 PM
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Like margaret thatcher said, and I'll paraphrase from memory, there is no such thing as "society" only individuals and families There are individuals and families everywhere, in every country on Earth. If there's no "society," then there's nothing to link anything together. No government, no state, no schools, no system of currency or exchange, no laws. I'm sure that's not what Thatcher meant, so it just sounds like wordsmithing over the term "society," which is admittedly a problematic term - b…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 01:50 PM
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Their conclusion was already reached on an emotionally driven basis for what serves their interests, not a process of reason based on what is "good for society." So, do you have some basis for believing this, or are you claiming to be able to read minds? I don't consider myself to be a tradcon, but traditionalists and conservatives tend to believe as they do because, in their eyes, the country was better and greater back in the "good old days." If their only purpose was to get laid, then that's …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/19 01:43 PM
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She only exposed her boobs, not her crotch region. She wouldn't expose her crotch, not in a Major League ballpark. That's strictly bush league.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/10/19 01:36 PM
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I don't know, but I got a message that I was banned from there, and I hadn't even posted in that subreddit. I don't do the "brigading" thing, so it came as a surprise. It's all just so silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/19 01:33 PM
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Well, I use the term "ratchet" when referring to a tool of that name. Ratchets are useful devices, although she talks about it like it's something bad. Or maybe she has a tool fetish.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/10/19 11:47 PM
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LMFAO! I just got perma banned from r/FemaleDatingStrategy. Me too. I've never even posted there. But I guess they take the names of every individual who has posted in this sub, and ban them pre-emptively. But I don't break the rules here. I don't brigade or anything like that. So, it's no big deal, but it is kind of weird that they would go around combing other subs to ban people.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/10/19 11:31 PM
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Perhaps she's an insufferable cunt. After reading the comments and her replies, I think this may be the answer (although that doesn't discount the other two). I didn't even want to finish reading that thread. Her replies indicate that she's irritated and probably somewhat grating to have to listen to. I'm not surprised those guys turned tail and ran. I probably would, too. They probably realized they "stuck it in crazy," and realized that they had to quickly disappear. ;)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/10/19 11:07 PM
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That's a bit misogynistic. And that's the first time I used that word to describe someone's opinion :D Yeah, I have a certain abrasive sense of sarcasm which tends to rub some people the wrong way around here. I don't really mean anything by it, though. It's just an observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 02:40 PM
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Yes, TRP won the debate. A grand celebration is planned, along with a ticker-tape parade. There's even rumors that President Trump may award the Presidential Medal of Freedom, along with a $10,000 check for every dedicated Red Piller for their fine, upstanding, patriotic work for America.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 02:37 PM
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I don't know if I'd use the word "disgusting." It is what it is. There are much worse things in this world to worry about. Of course, the red pill can use examples from that sub and say "You see? We were right all along!" I haven't gone to see posts from red pilled men, but it's probably the same, just the other way around. Well, not exactly. Most men have to learn how to be amoral, whereas with women, it's just their natural state of being.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 02:24 PM
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Is this predatory? I don't think it's predatory if they're just having sex. Adults of all ages are free to play with each other all they want. If it gets complicated, then they'll have to work it out. Does their ages/life experience have a play on this? Possibly. It could still work out. I've seen that it's more often the case of an older man/younger woman, but the opposite situation can also come about. It's been known to happen. How do you view women older than you? I've dated older women befo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 02:11 PM
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I think men and women see friends differently. Very differently. I dont think you are thinking like a woman at all, you are thinking like a man who thinks all women are fair game and is attracted to most women. I don't think that men think that all women are fair game. But while reading your post, it got me to thinking about what kind of circumstances these closer friendships actually begin - beyond just being part of the same group of friends (many of whom might be more at a level of "acquainta…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 01:35 PM
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What's hard to understand about 'she is not sexually attracted to you'? I suppose it depends on whether the issue is fixable or not. There are some women I've noticed who would probably be much more attractive if they'd lose weight and put some measure of effort into their appearance. So, if it's merely a matter of a few tweaks here and there to go from "unattractive" to "attractive," then I can't see how that should be some huge, insurmountable obstacle. (Granted, some people might still be a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 12:03 PM
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And thinking about it now, it was rarely some underhanded plot to fuck my female friends. I was into them more because I liked them, because we got along, because they became familiar. This is something that most women just don't seem to get. They're raised with the notion that "men only have one thing on their minds," so they think that every guy who is nice to them is secretly trying to get into their pants. That, and subs like /r/niceguys make most women today look like cynical harpies who ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 11:41 AM
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Interesting that she feels the need to define "plural" yet still doesn't know how to form it correctly.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/10/19 06:20 PM
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Isn't there like half a trillion of such subreddits already? Like /r/the_wall /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen /r/mgtow and so on. And women can't handle those, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/19 12:26 PM
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"It's not fair that good-looking assholes get to be with beautiful women while I can't and it's all because of genetics," I mean don't they see the irony? I'm not sure why some men think this way, although it's possible that they may have had their eye on one particular woman, but somehow failed to gain her affections. For a long time throughout history, it was a well-known trope that women were seen as shallow, fickle, flighty, illogical, not smart enough to vote or make any real important deci…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 01:52 PM
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Now with women having the ultimate trump card at their disposal I wouldn't say it's the ultimate trump card. There are other trump cards which can be played, but most people probably wouldn't want them to be played. How will society be impacted by women controlling both the sexual and relationship marketplace? How will men respond to the dating game being even more skewed towards women? How are men responding to it now?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/19 01:20 PM
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Really? I'm a graduate of a well respected law school and a member of both the New York and California bars. I've done the research. Q: How do you tell when a lawyer is lying? A: His lips are moving.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 12:34 PM
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I know 2 men divorced in the last 18 months that are paying alimony in the state I live in I also know men who are paying alimony. Anyone who says that no man pays alimony anymore is lying through their teeth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 12:33 PM
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To me, the idea of cheating is adultery, which can only be done within the context of marriage. The idea of "cheating" on a boyfriend or girlfriend doesn't make any sense, since there's no real commitment there. I also think there might be some mixed messages, too. For example, a woman riding the CC and ratcheting up her N-count might protest being judged and say "Well, what's the big deal? It's only sex." As if sex is just another recreational activity, like bowling or going to a movie. But the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 12:40 AM
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It's true that straight men do not want advances from gay men, just as it's true that women don't want advances from men they're not attracted to. So, there may be a parallel here, but it doesn't cover all the bases. The difference, though, is in how men and women respond, prepare for, and/or seek to avoid that which they do not want. For one thing, straight men will try to avoid any situation where it's a likely possibility that they may get hit on by a gay man. They will avoid gay clubs and ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/19 08:16 AM
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people are COMMENTING about it on INTERNET forums GO BE A BACHELOR NO ONE CARES Why would people comment on things they don't care about? That doesn't make any sense. I don't care about professional tennis. I have no interest in it at all. And you know what? I don't comment on it - anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 12:48 AM
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I actually agree with the comment at the end: "Good for Josh."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/07/19 12:58 AM
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Yeah, it's hard to say either way. Not a lot of info.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/07/19 04:22 AM
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I read the OP's reason in the comments: "We really just wanted different things in life. I also just had enough of his drinking. I was really hoping that he would stop but he didn’t. I probably should have left sooner but I honestly thought he would change."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/07/19 03:39 AM
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I guess. And I never could understand why their astrological signs show up under "ethnicity."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/06/19 03:21 PM
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But women are nervous about men. In general. If we are alone in the dark with you... we will be on edge. I would contrast women around men with weak men around stronger men. A weak man knows his place; he won't start a fight with stronger man. But women's behavior around stronger men seems far different than that of a weak man. If women really were that worried about men, they'd mind their manners more and not try to goad or provoke. They'd keep their mouths shut more often and speak softly when…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 03:21 AM
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I guess it depends on where they work, but some nurses have to endure patient deaths with families crying, accident victims covered in blood, people screaming, patients with hangnails complaining they have to wait too long. All that and much more. CEOs just sit in an office all day long, if they're not out playing golf or taking three-martini lunches.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 09:25 PM
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Geico - so easy a caveman can do it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/06/19 05:43 AM
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Why you mad? I'm just telling it like it is. Do I sound mad? I don't feel mad. Anyways, have you really not seen a short guy married with kids? Because if women only wanted tall guys, we wouldnt have guys that are 5'6. They would have been bred out. Of course I've seen short guys married with kids. I've also seen tall guys who struggle with women, so the PPD notion that tall guys are swimming in pussy never really rang true for me. I was really only addressing your point that it was an "entitlem…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 01:00 PM
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Did you want to talk about short guys and fat girls, or did you want to talk about the U.S. Constitution and what a citizen is entitled to (such as equal treatment before the law)?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 12:36 PM
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"I'm not racist for saying white people are the devil. I'm just telling the truth." That's an apple to oranges example, although even here, I don't see it as an entitlement problem. Maybe it's a "victim complex" (although even that's debatable), but it still wouldn't be the same thing as feeling entitled. Maybe if people picked their words and labels with greater attention to accuracy, a lot of these discussions would offer more clarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 12:27 PM
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I don't see it so much as an entitlement problem as much as it's just calling it what it is. Women try to pretend as if there's some sort of "logic" behind their choices. Either that, or they get mystical and claim to have some sort of "intuition" or "sixth sense," as if they tell which guys are "creepy" and which ones aren't. The only "entitlement issue" here is from women who believe that they're entitled to not be called out on their bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 12:07 PM
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I wonder what her problem is with BMWs. It's just a car. It sounds like it's some kind of shit test. Or maybe she had a bad relationship with some guy who had a BMW.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen13/06/19 02:51 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgH9BxnfhMw
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/06/19 11:52 PM
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Some areas of California are rather conservative, where this message might be more accepted.
/r/MGTOW09/06/19 10:52 PM
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You very clearly said that women are to blame for any kind of violence/abuse they experience. That's called victim blaming. Search up the definition. That's beside the point. I'm talking with you, not with OP. I was correcting what you said about how "women have no sense of situational awareness." This just isn't true. If what you're saying is correct, then women wouldn't make such a big stink about so-called "victim blaming," would they? You can't have it both ways. It's either one or the other…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 10:47 PM
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I thought that "boyfriend application" was an interesting touch. After height, weight, age, it asks for "measurements." I suppose that's open to interpretation. "Have you ever had a sex change?" Why would someone put a question like this on a boyfriend application? Who thinks of something like this? She put the obvious question about occupation and income in the middle, as if it's not as high a priority as "measurements," but still... "Have you ever cheated on a girlfriend?" As if to expect an h…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/06/19 05:12 PM
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If you think women set themselves up for any kind of violence/abuse they experience then you're victim blaming. In other words, you're blaming women for the horrible things some men do. Well, in the context of this thread and the OP's question, the point was about women not knowing or understanding what masculinity is. As I said, women only understand it on a surface level, but they don't understand the why. I look at it more as a matter of cause-and-effect, while placing "blame" is another issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 04:37 PM
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And getting back to the part that you put in bold, I would point out that the OP said "less eager to judge," not that they don't do it all. There's a reason why they're less eager to judge, or at least to not appear as such. Even women judging other women as not being lady-like has gotten virulent and angry responses. A while back there was a lady who visited the Notre Dame campus and commented on women wearing yoga pants and other unsuitable clothing. Man o man, there was quite vitriolic reacti…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 03:26 PM
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Well, if that was supposed to have been a creative writing exercise, they could have done a better job of it. They should have it so that she catches him jerking to her pics, which can then turn into a steamy sex scene, at which point her boyfriend comes in and shoots them both. Then he skips to Panama where he's recruited by the CIA to become an international assassin.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 03:05 PM
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If it's an internal process that they don't speak of openly, then you wouldn't know about it, would you? Men judge their partners and potential partners more on their fuckability than their femininity. They're not quite as picky or discriminating as you're making men out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 02:53 PM
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Any kind of violence. What is "victim blaming" and why should I care about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 02:45 PM
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Well, when you respond to something that is commonly known and then ask "on what planet?" as if you've never heard of what is commonly known, then what else can one deduce?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 02:37 PM
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on what planet? You've never heard of men being shamed for telling women they're not acting lady-like? You've never heard of political correctness?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 12:11 PM
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If this is what masculinity is then I assure you that women very well understand and know this. Women understand it only on a very superficial level. They don't understand the why, and they mostly seem pretty clueless when it comes to recognizing danger or having situational awareness. The best proof of this are stats of violence against women. They set themselves up to be victims and have no clue as to why or how to avoid it. To top it off, they blame men as a whole, rather than admit that they…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/19 11:54 AM
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I find it funny when I see the whole "Women are so mean to men" thing here. Most popular in the form of "Women hate when men show their feelings because it makes them unsexy. I haven't noticed that many people complaining about women being mean to men (although there are some). More often than not, women are being criticized for their hypocrisy. Women often talk it up about being "strong and independent," but when the rubber meets the road, they're not really that at all. It's mostly been women …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 01:07 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiTM2HQ0g98
/r/PussyPassDenied31/03/19 02:24 PM
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15 men on a fat cow's chest Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/03/19 01:30 PM
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Her friends are staying there tonight? Well, I just hope they don't have to take a shit.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/03/19 04:45 AM
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I don't know if this qualifies as pussy pass or pussy pass denied, as she's still awaiting sentencing. However, the article mentioned that she left her child in the car before, but she was only suspended for a week without pay. The child's father was never informed about the first incident.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/03/19 01:26 PM
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rough past I've spoken to people who have survived the Holocaust, the Siege of Leningrad, combat vets - those people had a rough past. Of course, it can't be denied that one's past can leave an indelible impression for the rest of one's life. We all have our struggles in life and our own row to hoe. Sometimes, people might make regrettable decisions and bad mistakes, but if one learns from those mistakes, then one can be a better person. So, when someone says their "rough and rocky past" made th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/03/19 07:07 PM
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I was curious about this, so I found a link to the story: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4276766/Mother-laughed-Detroit-court-released-jail.html According to the article, she was released after 24 hours after tearfully apologizing to the judge. She didn't serve the full 93 days.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/03/19 02:59 PM
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"I love horror movies." That may be what scared off the baby daddy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/03/19 11:17 PM
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Naah, rednecks drive F-150s.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 11:43 PM
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I just want to remind female users if PPD that if we answer questions like this, users will continue to make posts like this. I see it as just the opposite, actually. The reason posts like this continue to be made is because we rarely, if ever, see any honest answers to such questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 02:10 PM
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Slut shaming is dumb too., dude I was a male slut .. I wasn’t shamed . I was celebrated amongst my peers .. it’s hypocritical to shame a woman for the same thing we celebrate man for .. Who is "we"? I think it depends mainly on the circle of friends and the sub-culture one is raised in. In religious circles, a male slut (or "womanizer" as it's often called) might be just as easily shamed and criticized. I think it's hypocritical when someone accepts the tenets of the sexual revolution and consid…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 11:55 PM
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Where did she put her six kids ? In her belly ? Yeah, I guess she must have eaten them. ;)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/12/18 03:45 AM
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Wow, this is totally fucked up. I notice that this incident occurred back in June, but I haven't found any more recent follow up stories regarding the arrest and charges against the perpetrator(s). It just goes to show the lynch mob mentality at work among white knights and others who rush to judgment to "belieeeeeve" women who make false accusations. I suppose there is some irony in that some people want to bring back lynching, but if that's the kind of society they want, then maybe they should…
/r/MGTOW28/12/18 03:50 PM
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Actually, the original topic is why we (men on PPD) don't believe women who post their opinions or experiences on dating. Someone else made it about incels. The flaw in the lawyer analogy is that in any field of professional study (as well as in skilled trades, sports, etc.) is that they have certain standards for qualification, as you undoubtedly already know. One needs a degree from an accredited institution, pass tests, and/or any number of other requirements that presumably meet some sort of…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 02:30 AM
1

Refusing to play basketball in high school because "well I'm not 7 feet tall anyway so why bother" is hardly learning from failure. Perhaps not, although it should be noted that there are/were plenty of successful coaches who had marginal or below-average stats when they were players. As the saying goes, those who can't do, teach. And then there are those who may be tops in their field, but can't teach what they know or impart it to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 01:32 AM
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I never said anything about hiring a dropout. That was your supposition. I only mentioned not wanting to take advice from the prosecutor, since they would be the adversary.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 01:30 AM
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Remember, the topic is why would anyone listen to an incel about this Some people learn more from failure than they do from success. For those who success comes very easily (or extremely lucky), they wouldn't have a common frame of reference with those who have to struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 10:56 PM
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You mean you don't get legal advice from homeless guys on the street instead of a lawyer? If I was a defendant in a court case, I sure as hell wouldn't take any advice from the prosecuting attorney.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 10:47 PM
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If you actually cared about the "negative impact" to society, you would seek to understand the issues that men have and seek to mediate them. Well stated. I've been observing the general narrative and discussion on this and other sites about these issues, yet despite all the supposed concern over TRP and the supposed "negative impact" it all has, not one of the complainers seem to have any idea of what the issues actually are. Even if they did, they wouldn't lift a finger to try to help or chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 06:27 PM
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I note that the article was terribly vague about what, exactly, he might have done that led to the accusation of "acting inappropriately to women."
/r/MGTOW27/12/18 01:52 PM
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Gemini is an "ethnicity"?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 01:20 PM
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I think what always floors me about this is how often I read/hear women who claim to be such experts on men that they can spot a "creepy guy" a mile away and that they just know that a "nice guy" is only acting that way for sex. After all, they're so intuitive and perceptive. But then so many of them get caught up in relationships where they're manipulated, controlled, gaslighted, abused, etc., claiming that they "didn't know he would turn out like this."
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/12/18 01:14 PM
1

I think she was in the movie Highlander, playing the part of Heather.
/r/MGTOW22/12/18 01:52 PM
1

Do you think men and women can be just friends? If one party is attracted, can that person deliberately stay as a friend or should there be no friendship if attraction exists? I think it would depend on the basis of the friendship. If it's just one in a group of friends, that might be one thing, but if it's some sort of closer "best friend" kind of thing, then that might be problematic if one is attracted to the other. Besides physical attraction, there's also an emotional component to friendshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 08:21 PM
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It doesn't really have to be circlejerking, though. People could, you know, actually have a...debate. Since the word "debate" actually appears in the name of this subreddit, one would think that's what its purpose is. But in practice, the mods and the core group of posters here seem to want to do everything but debate, which would mean that this sub exists under false pretenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 02:56 PM
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Yeah, but at least it offers some variety. Better than a one-trick pony, which is what PPD has become.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 02:39 PM
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it needs to be related to sex/dating/TRP. I’m not a mod but they’ve been cracking down on that more lately so just FYI And that's precisely the reason why this subreddit has gotten pretty stale, repetitive, and boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 02:34 PM
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I was wondering the same thing. Here ya go: https://imgur.com/a/EqTb1
/r/MGTOW01/11/18 02:50 PM
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I guess it would depend on who's doing the "allowing" and who's doing the "disapproving," along with their reasons for doing so. Could someone also explain to me why it's so important to be able to share these unpopular opinions without social repercussion? I often wonder why it's so important that there be "social repercussion" over unpopular opinions. What is it that drives people in this way? Why can't they just ignore "unpopular opinions," mind their own business, and get on with their lives…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 12:02 PM
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PCU is a good parody of political correctness and the "SJW" phenomenon. Since there's a lot of discussion in PPD about "alpha" and "beta" types, I've often seen how that plays in disaster movies, such as The Poseidon Adventure, The Towering Inferno, Earthquake, etc. Some men just naturally take charge, while other men are in support/follower/sidekick roles, and the women are mostly helpless damsels.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 02:30 PM
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"The Red Pill" is an Oppressive, Narrow-Minded Ideology I see it somewhat differently, at least when looking at the past several decades. For as long as a half-century or more, women have been riding on the coattails of feminism and doing a lot of trash-talking about men. Men have been stoically putting up with it and still trying to take the high road, but it shouldn't be too surprising if there are some men who believe that enough is enough and want to start trash-talking about women. Nobody h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/18 04:39 PM
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If it's a teacher that teaches stripping, then maybe. Some teachers used to work as strippers, so you never really know. School bus drivers pick up children all the time, and there's no telling what kind of occupations they may have held in the past. I would just hope they know how to drive. Incidentally, the absolutely worst driver I've ever known was a stripper who eventually became a teacher. She could be trusted with a child, though, as long as she didn't get behind the wheel of a car.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 03:55 PM
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"be yourself" is actually good advice. You just need a spine. The only trouble is that it doesn't really measure or gauge the effect it might have on the perceptions of others. TRP may have its faults, but a large part of what they do is offer insight into female nature which might explain some things to those who may not be able to understand certain aspects of it. What they offer is information, but what people choose to do with that information is their own business. Other than that, there ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/18 03:40 PM
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I'm not sure that men are complaining about women not being feminine anymore, at least not as much as they're complaining about inconsistency. The primary complaint seems to be that women claim to want equality - but only to a certain point which benefits women, yet still absolves them from equal responsibility and accountability. As for "feminine women," I suppose it depends on how one defines the term. Traditionally, it probably had more to do with men sizing up who would be most suitable for …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 03:25 PM
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It could have gone poorly and offended people, but it didn't because they pulled it off. They pulled off the joke. They pulled off the social risk. The reason why I'm bringing this up is to illustrate a larger point. When you're flirting with a woman and you take a social risk that you manage to pull off, it's extremely attractive to her. Flirtatious banter usually involves a lot of things that are slight risks. They could be perceived as transgressions, but if you have social acuity then it wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 02:33 PM
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I only got through the first few minutes of the first video. It seemed it had an anti-immigrant bent to it, and it showed a few female politicians from Germany supporting pro-immigration policies. The basic point was made rather early, that men protect and build civilizations, etc. Of course, the example of war brides would demonstrate that if men screw it up and lose their ability to defend their nation from invaders, their women are taken by the conquering power. For better or worse, countries…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 03:57 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inQiIkz7J5Y
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 02:55 PM
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One thing to keep in mind about terms like "feminist" is that, within the overall political culture, one can't really take political labels too literally. It's not unlike how many people loosely throw around terms like "communist" or "fascist." One doesn't necessarily have to be an official, card-carrying member of the Communist Party to be labeled as such. Of course, the term "feminism" is different since it's not universally regarded as "evil" as other labels might be - but there are more than…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 02:50 PM
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Modern Feminists are paid by the Liberal establishment to direct their attention away from the inherently oppressive establishment. That's why their entire focus is peripheral issues like gendered bathrooms, use of pronouns and media representation. However what's being deliberately ignored is that capitalism doesn't respect womenhood, sisterhood or motherhood. You make some good points here. My observation is that liberalism overall has sold out to the capitalist/corporate establishment, ostens…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/18 02:57 PM
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TRP tactics are devastating to communities. A Gynocentric Sexual Marketplace is necessary to maintain a functioning society. A functioning society is maintained largely by faith, but it's when people lose that faith that things start to fall out. Why should a man (or woman, for that matter) have faith in a dog-eat-dog "community" where people are mainly selfish and out for themselves alone? If the folks at PPD are anything to go by, then the consensus of opinion seems to be that "nobody gives a …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 03:59 PM
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Facts say otherwise. Nationalism has nothing to do with collectivism or individualism. Comes in both varieties. You need to educate yourself on the origins and characteristics of nationalism. How many of them have you lived in, or know lot of people from? Quite a few. Grandpa, the cold war is over. Not really, no. The game has changed somewhat, but they're both considered rivals to the West. Have you ever dealt with any Russians and Chinese? Yes. Russians are among the most selfish and individua…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 02:27 PM
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In the context of the OP, the post to which I initially replied suggested that violence in the West has come down, which implies that the West has become more peaceful, less violent, and/or more enlightened in recent years, which I don't believe to be correct. If anything, the higher incarceration rate has led to a decrease in violent crime, since those with a propensity towards violence are more effectively dealt with. But that has little to do with the overall character of the West or our cult…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 09:22 PM
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Other than a bunch of pedantic quibbling, what's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 08:56 PM
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I think it's more correct to say that men want women who mean what they say and say what they mean. They know they're not going to get that, because AWALT. It just proves that men shouldn't listen to what women say about anything, since it's all bullshit anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 08:33 PM
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You're not looking at the bigger picture. That's why you want to ignore the larger range in years, because you want to support the specious assertion that the violent crime rate has gone down. "Exponentially" means "more and more rapidly," but that makes no sense when it's compared with the exponential spikes in crime which took place in the 80s and 90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 08:30 PM
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It's just an argumentative tactic which is being used. Once you can recognize it and see it for what it is, it's easier to deal with and dispose of. You may not get anyone to admit defeat, since they'll never admit to that. But in their heart of hearts, they know that they're wrong, and so does everyone else who reads.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 08:21 PM
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The point made earlier was that "violence is exponentially down in Western countries," which is incorrect. It's only decreased by degrees from the huge spikes in crime which took place during the 80s and 90s, which then led to more stringent measures against crime (such as "three strikes" rule, etc.) and a much higher rate of incarceration. It doesn't mean that violence is "exponentially down" by any standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 08:01 PM
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There is nothing unique to 2016 there. Democrats have largely dumped their old base since 1997. Longer than that, actually. Wrong, though you are right about the privilege. Female nature is naturally collectivist when it comes to other females. If women were as self centered as you think, they wouldn't destroy happy marriages just because some of their friends did. Divorce tends to travel in friends' circles. Therein lies the contradiction. That is utterly confused. Are you equating patriotism w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 07:26 PM
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Violence is exponentially down in Western countries. Only when you compare the crime rates over the past 20-30 years, which has seen huge crime waves and spikes in crime. The violent crime index in 2016 was still 2.5 times higher than it was in 1960 (http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm). One stat that stands out is that the incarceration rate has exponentially increased, which is the primary factor in reducing violent crime in recent decades. But it would hardly be an indicator in de…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 01:25 PM
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Aside: What happened in the 2016 election was that a lot of HWNs and MRWs (aka traditional Democrats) woke up to the postmodernist power grab represented by the two party system, and chose a complete outsider. This is the stuff that feminist nightmares are made of. I think the election of 2016 was the result of feminists and their fellow travelers embracing too much identity politics and neglecting the idea of class struggle, which was Marx's main contention. Contrary to what many RPers seem to …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/18 12:57 PM
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Throughout most of human history, it didn't matter what women were attracted to. Most of the time, they weren't given a choice. A beta male is still stronger than a female. It's also a matter of being a social animal. 10 beta males fighting together can still defeat a single individualistic alpha male, even despite Hollywood's false imagery in most action films of an individual alpha male fighting off a whole regiment single-handedly. That doesn't happen in the real world, but so many people who…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 05:34 PM
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Perhaps what is more true is that it shouldn't be a problem for women who claim to be "strong" and "independent," who say they can compete with a man in a man's world, and who tout themselves as "sexually liberated." On the other side of the issue, respecting women is more a matter of respecting the men who are in her life. You don't respect another man's wife, daughter or sister just because she's a woman; it's because she is associated with another man who should be respected. Likewise, if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 04:31 PM
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If red pill men were offered a Marriage 1.0 woman tomorrow, in exchange for being a Marriage 1.0 man, they would turn it down. Men are resentful of the idea of supporting a wife, who would in turn stay home to look after the house and raise their children; because men have bought into the idea of egalitarianism. Men are resentful of feminine behaviors because on some deep level, they have bought into the blank slate conditioning that women are just like men, albeit defective men. The problem isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/18 03:41 PM
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Of course they do. This has already been proven multiple times. But then again, if you don't like it that people are complaining about the mods, you can always leave. go on, then. Making demands like this is never going to be received well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 08:28 PM
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patience runs thin. no one is forced to be here. on top of that, making demands like this is never going to be received well. In all fairness, though, the mods really do suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/18 05:48 PM
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When you enter an expensive store, the smiling staff member is not happy to see you. She gets paid the same whether you come in or not. It doesn't improve her day to see you, no matter how many teeth she displays. But she should be happy, because without customers to enter the store and buy things, then the store goes out of business and she's out of a job. I guess those 13-year-olds with autism understand the bigger picture that so-called "normal" people do not. The judge in a criminal trial is…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 02:35 PM
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What is to debate here? Perhaps that PPD is full of duplicitous, lying, hypocritical idiots who say one thing and do another? Or maybe that most posters here are full of shit? Seems pretty straightforward to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/18 02:18 PM
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https://media.giphy.com/media/HhTXt43pk1I1W/giphy.gif
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/18 12:57 AM
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"Creep" or "creepy" sounds tantamount to accusing them of criminal activity, such as stalking or peeping - that kind of thing. It seems too strong of word to use if the person may only be boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 09:52 AM
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Why does only physical danger count? What about thing like boring? pedantic? Is creepy the only banned phrase or are we not allowed to use non-complimentary descriptors at all? I would interpret "creep" as anything that induces fear, such as "a haunted house is creepy." Boring or pedantic doesn't induce fear, so "creep" would be inappropriate under such circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/18 12:26 AM
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All of what you're saying here is obvious, but it misses the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 07:09 PM
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But it's perfectly ok for Blue commenters to say "jeez, who hurt YOU" and those Blue comments stay up EVEN WHEN REPORTED. When Reds make the same comments, they're routinely deleted. I've noticed this as well, but to be fair, some red and purple pillers make similar comments, directing their replies at the messenger and not addressing the message. I don't really care all that much about personal attacks or even incivility, but the problem is that such discussions become pointless and go nowhere.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 02:57 PM
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I don't agree. Just because someone posts an observation about the society around them, it doesn't necessarily mean they're posting about themselves or their own personal situation. If someone says "high taxes are bad," they may be talking about themselves, or they may be saying that high taxes are bad for the overall economy. Or if someone says "rape is bad," it would be faulty to assume that the individual saying that has ever been raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 02:37 PM
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Some men might get married because it is believed it will elevate their standing in society or their career. A lot of America is still quite religious and traditional, and this also includes the political and economic elite. A common thing is for political candidates to trot out their wife and kids and put them on display to help their candidacy. This is because they are viewed as more stable because they are "family men." The same idea holds true in business, particularly those which are run by…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 02:22 PM
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I agree with everything you're saying. This sub has become rather pointless, repetitive and boring. I stop in every once in a while, but not as much as I used to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/18 11:26 AM
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if we would like to like in a functional, civilised society. A functional, civilized society would be nice, but reading a lot of the rhetoric that goes back and forth in the overall debate here and elsewhere, I'm not convinced that many people actually want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/18 12:44 PM
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Both examples of collectivism. Like what you are proposing. I don't recall proposing any such thing. This is what I meant when I said that you didn't understand and missed the point entirely. What I was proposing was something more along the lines of "love thy neighbor," but if your philosophy is "hate thy neighbor," then I guess you're in the right sub. My only real point was that you and others like you are hardly in a position to complain when what goes around comes around. Don't you find it …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 01:56 AM
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Naah, I guess you've outlasted me. I can't live in this forum as you do. I have other things to do. I might stop in again, next time they have a purge day or week. It's been fun! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/18 01:42 AM
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I'm not crying. Just stating the cold, hard facts. You might want to try that some time, instead of constantly spewing out bullshit like you always do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 03:03 PM
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Oh, I can do better. You're just not worth the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 03:02 PM
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Well, it's a good thing for you that my country saved your country from that communist Allende and replaced him with such a humanitarian. How many thousands were killed, imprisoned, and tortured by Pinochet? I guess that makes you feel pretty good about yourself, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 03:00 PM
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Unlike your mother when you were a kid :) At least I had a mother. I don't know what you had. You were probably hatched in a laboratory.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 02:55 PM
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It shouldn't have been removed at all, but if it was, both of our posts should have been removed, if the mods had any interest in being neutral and unbiased. Since they're obviously not, you're full of shit. The mods take themselves and this forum far too seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 02:54 PM
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Another foreigner who thinks he can tell me what's what. Bless your heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 02:51 PM
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Yeah, it'll probably be the same for me soon, too. I doubt that very many people here are really interested in a discussion or debate about anything anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:24 AM
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Your guesses are off the mark. You obviously have nothing of substance to add to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 07:20 AM
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Yeah, I guess, but it's not just that. They change the flairs if a post title isn't "neutral" enough. They come across as pretty anal retentive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 02:41 AM
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It wouldn't be so bad if it was an unmoderated forum. Trouble here is, people act like snarky assholes, but then go crying to the mods if someone gives it back to them. They can dish it out but can't take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 02:17 AM
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Lastly, I was too incredibly shy to approach anyone so I didn’t experience outright rejection. But so many geeky beta guys could have asked me on a date in high school/ college and I would have eagerly said yes. Maybe they were shy, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 01:41 AM
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Xcept men think anything a woman says that makes herself look "better" is a lie and "hamstering" RP men might say that. Not sure it's true for most men, who probably wouldn't even know what "hamstering" is. Not everyone is up on the lingo around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 01:33 AM
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How sweet. She cares about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 01:31 AM
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Well said. A lot of people here are silver spoon rich kids who had everything handed to them while growing up, while patting themselves on the back for their "hard work." Of course, it's true that life isn't fair, but you don't have to be passive about it. There are ways of fighting back that make the smug feel less comfortable. They have weaknesses, too. Remember that they're ones running scared, hiding behind walls in gated communities with bars on their windows. They're the ones who need an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 10:45 PM
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As if any of the conversations here have any value in the first place...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 10:12 PM
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Boy: "Be nice and have sex with me, it would make me so happy, I want it so much, all my friends are doing it." Me: "Why not I guess, I do want to make you happy and it's not like it's a big deal. It's not harming anyone!" He wants sex because all his friends are doing it, and he's feeling pressure from his peers. He doesn't want to be seen as an outcast. You want to make him happy, but it seems neither of you are doing it because actually want to do it for yourselves. That's where there might b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 09:09 PM
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Perhaps you should STFU about what everyone's purpose is. It's not up to you. Who says? You? Why should I listen to you? Maybe you should STFU and try to learn something. It might do you some good. But I think that you're incapable of learning about things beyond a certain level. Nobody is responsible for your life other than yourself. You can cry about it all you like but thems the facts. That's what you say. I know the facts, and I know you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 07:19 PM
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jesus what a long form whine. If you don't have the intelligence or wisdom to understand, better to just keep silent. Protip: other people don't exist to serve your purpose. Everyone gets to decide on their own. You should consider following your own advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 07:12 PM
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"Super" is so 1980s. But what I've noticed lately is the excessive use of the word "perfect."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 06:45 PM
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Yeah. Ain't life a bitch?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 06:44 PM
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Why do you visit PPD? Do you occasionally find yourself dejected or put in a foul mood by the opinions expressed here? Why do you keep coming back? I think many of the issues discussed here are somewhat important from a sociological and political standpoint. A lot of it reflects what is often discussed in political circles and in the mainstream media, and it gives some insight into how some people think and see the world. I originally came to the "manosphere" when I followed a link from someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 06:43 PM
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This was removed by the Nazi mod, but since there's a purge going on, I figured I might repost it. They removed it? I guess that proves this isn't a "neutral" community as they claim it to be. I now support banning abortion in all cases, including rape. We force male rape victims to pay their rapists child support under penalty of imprisonment, why should we show females any leeway? I agree with not showing females any leeway, but I have mixed feelings about abortion. Frankly, I'm a bit mystifie…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 05:36 PM
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I expect things to heat up as we get closer to the midterm elections. Should be fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 04:33 PM
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Slavery is not cheap labor it's free labor at the expense of subjugating people to cruelty and loss of freedom . Same argument, though. http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/43/02/31/9184846/4/1024x1024.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/20/article-urn:publicid:ap.org:f707aff6f1634c27b5d97933bc53f842-6OCeAmnZV-HSK1-154_634x824.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 04:17 PM
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Am telling you that immigrants are indispensable to Americas agricultural and meatpacking industries and without them many farmers would go out of business forcing America to import good at higher prices , and your answer is that am politically correct, you are insane . That's the same argument that Southerners used about the cotton industry. They did make a lot of money from cheap labor, but we see how well that turned out for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 04:07 PM
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I'm definitely not one of the cool kids. I'm one of the delinquents and troublemakers in this schoolyard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiU5U4iTrwA I don't like people knowing about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:45 PM
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Aren't you a foreigner?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:27 PM
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Just like Cornwallis at Yorktown, eh? "My Lord, I beseech you. You must order the surrender." "How could it come to this? An army of rabble...peasants. Everything will change. Everything has changed."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:23 PM
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It's purge day, you can say what you want and it won't get deleted. Let it rip big boy. Okay, then go to a football game, get drunk, and riot, you silly English person. Are you one of the Queen's Guards? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJItr23jsxw Now, that is funny. And obviously the mods can't read everything but that doesn't mean all removals are a result of reports either. I mod a much bigger sub than this, I know how it works. Either way, someone was obviously looking out for you and didn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 03:01 PM
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What was I offended by? The fact you have issues with your mother? That doesn't even make sense. I'm not your psychologist. I don't know. You tell me. You're the one who reported the post because you were offended by what I said. I'm not going to repeat it, because then you'll just report it again and have my comment censored. The mods themselves have said that they can't read every post and rely on people reporting things that should be removed, so someone must have reported it. If you didn't, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:39 PM
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You were offended. All this faux laughter of yours is to cover up your own insecurity, and when someone turns it back on you, you go running to the mods. That's cowardly, man. If you're going to play the role of the cynical hedonistic nihilist who laughs in the face of death, at least do it properly. You don't do it very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:34 PM
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I didn't report that comment lol. Of course you did. Who else would have done so?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:26 PM
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That's not a denial. I was right all along.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:15 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/7m8g6w/qforrpmen_how_do_you_think_legal_aspects_of/drs5ue7/?context=3
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:14 PM
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"Anyone who disagrees with me is stupid." Lol now you're just sounding like BiggerD and the rest of his bloop squad. I see you and BiggerD as kindred spirits. You're part of the same squad as he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:13 PM
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I laugh at America the same way I'd laugh at a comedy on TV. If you think I actually care about America you are sorely mistaken. If North Korea nuked the USA tomorrow I'd laugh. Laughing is good for the soul. Yeah, okay, I'll buy that for a dollar - or even a pound, if you'd like. Believe it or not, I'd laugh too. I laughed the other day when you were so offended by something I said to you that you reported my post to the mods. You didn't think I was funny then, did you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:11 PM
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Can you actually explain your contradictory view to me then or not? If you had the intelligence to understand beyond an 8th grade level, then you would see that it's not contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:06 PM
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But yet you said we should give a shit about others. Why? Because what I see in this forum is a lot of people complaining about the world. I see people like you from the UK complaining about America. I see liberals and others of the "blue/purple pill" variety complaining about Trump. I see endless complaints about incels being "annoying." I see complaints about North Korea, complaints about ISIS, complaints about terrorism, complaints about mass shootings, complaints about this, that, and the ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 02:03 PM
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No one matters so you might as well just enjoy yourself while you're here and stop wasting time with this existential bullshit. You're nothing but a blip in a much larger experience but you should find comfort in that because no matter how bad you fuck up the universe and the people within it don't give a shit about you. I'm not asking for anyone to give a shit about me. Talk about missing the point. My life is focused on doing things that benefit me. I exercise to make myself look and feel good…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 01:54 PM
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Just sit back and watch and give color commentary from time to time. It's easier that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 01:51 PM
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It's a genuine question because you're contradicting yourself. Are you capable of asking genuine questions or just playing at sophistry?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 01:50 PM
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And what do you believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 01:48 PM
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Why my post? 90% has nothing to do with me or what I said Does that matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 01:47 PM
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If I as an individual do not matter then why should I hold the belief that other individuals matter? Are you trying to be cute? I'm not laughing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 01:45 PM
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Sort of, I guess. Just food for thought. I'm just the messenger.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 01:43 PM
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Why does anyone care how anyone looks at life? I actually think that most people in this sub have a bleak view of life, even if they're looking at it from different sides. Blue pillers, red pillers, purple pillers, black pillers - they all seem pretty grim and negative. It shows through in the sarcasm, snark, and the arrogant, smug, condescending, judgmental and superior attitudes I see displayed here on a regular basis. This is more like a school playground than any kind of "debate" forum. If a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 01:26 PM
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I guess I should have read the novel. I haven't the faintest idea what this was about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/18 12:24 PM
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Crying isn't going to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 10:28 PM
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Ever see the movie Midway? Not a great flick, but it did have a memorable line: Shit. Wait and see! 1919, the Marines were practicing dive-bombing off Haiti. Everybody said: ""Premature, wait and see."" We waited, then the Germans showed us in '37 in Madrid. You mean like at Pearl Harbor?. - Pearl Harbor, shit! In '32 it was proved that Pearl Harbor could be attacked from the air. And Admiral Ramsey predicted it would happen, in detail. When was that?. - 1937, pal. Wait and see. We waited. Decem…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 08:43 PM
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Do you have a countdown in your dungeon? No, there's no countdown. All I'm saying that the attitudes prevalent today (and displayed by many on the blue pill side of things) will have consequences. History has proven this to be so, and if human nature never really changes, it is what it is, and what it will always be. All of what we have now in this "#metoo" world is artificial, and it won't last.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 08:00 PM
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Things were a lot more fluid and unstable, even back when the Church ruled things. It was more a matter of tribes and tiny kingdoms fighting each other, and the ruling class shifted according to whatever family had power in a given area. But that changed a lot, mainly because those wanting to raise an army found men who were willing to fight, with the promise of booty and "booty," as it were. If men didn't like what one ruling class was dictating, they always had the choice to join and fight wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 07:57 PM
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Yes, just as you said: "It's true. It's true." But listening to many feminists and blue pillers, they tend to deny it. Feminists seem to think that men are supposed to act a certain way, just because of some outmoded codes of "chivalry" (which feminists wouldn't really want if they were practiced as they were 1000 years ago). If women really understood male nature in its rawest form, they wouldn't behave like such cunts. They only act as they do because they expect men to just take it and that o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 07:41 PM
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How would that change female nature and their attraction? It wouldn't. The point is, it doesn't matter what they're attracted to or not attracted to, since they wouldn't be given any choice in the matter. How do you think the "Patriarchy" got started in the first place? Because women's nature is fucked up to begin with, but since women are weaker, they weren't given a choice. Now, with all this #metoo and other howls of complaints from women, they're essentially saying "We're weak. Please, beta …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 06:13 PM
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That will probably never happen, because men really really like having sex with women. As long as men are thirsty (spoiler alert: it's in their nature), women will always have the upper hand in the SMP. That's only true in the luxury-driven, hedonistic West. In most of the world (and throughout most of human history), women have not had the upper hand. They're weaker than men, and the only thing they have is the "sympathy card." If men stop recognizing that, then a more natural situation would r…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 05:54 PM
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How do you propose to do this? You are basically saying, that if human attraction worked some other way, there would be no problems. Women are attracted to certain things. To quote RP, you can't negotiate desire. There is no actionable way to do what you're suggesting. Actually, there is. One way would be for men to stop listening to these complaints from women who are complaining about sexual harassment. Men should just let them stew in their own juice and let them accept the consequences of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/17 05:47 PM
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It happens. Poverty is pretty widespread. It affects young and old, attractive and unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/17 02:43 PM
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minor are not legally competent to contract or make any other decisions like that, why should they be allowed to do this The State would do it for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 01:12 PM
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Lmao look at your president. 'Nuff said. A meaningless and irrelevant quip. So to be clear, are you claiming your mother was a positive influence on you? I'm saying it's none of your business and irrelevant to the point I was making.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/17 01:11 PM
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Yes I'm aware Americans cannot speak correct English, you can thank me for educating you. This issue was decided back in 1776. Since then, it's been Americans who have been educating you. Assuming your comment reflects your genuine beliefs, you clearly do not believe mothers can be positive influences on their children. You would not hold this belief if you had a positive role model in your mother. Hence the implication of your view is transparent. Why would you assume that I'm talking about my …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 05:21 PM
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Nope. I'm telling you. I don't care what he said. Review the rules (particularly the "s/he started it" section) first. Yes I read that. My comment was civil, relative to the overall culture and tone of this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 05:17 PM
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Tell that to /u/MercedesBenzoAMG
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 05:12 PM
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I spell in correct British English, look it up. I live in America, and Reddit is based in America. Look it up. You don't appear to have an argument to back it up so I'd suggest not. And what does that say about your argument? "Mummy problems"? Is that an "argument" or a personal attack? Why don't you try defending the notion of a "nurturing mother influence"? Where does that exist? Can you prove it? Do you have any kind of argument to raise at all? Or are you just full of hot air?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 05:10 PM
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If there's a dispute, yes. That's the part you failed to read due to your reading comprehension problem. That would be the fault of the parents who can't reach an amicable settlement without going to divorce court and having it decided for them. It's no different today when custody is routinely granted to the mother...just because.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 05:07 PM
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"Mummy problems"? I've never been to the pyramids, and I've never had any problems with mummies. But apart from that, my point stands. You don't know what you're talking about, Mama's Boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 05:02 PM
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a nurturing mother influence You're talking ancient history. Such things do not exist in the modern world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 04:34 PM
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Boys need a strong male influence in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 04:30 PM
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It's kind of funny in a way, at least considering the subject matter which is commonly brought up here, is that America's self-image may not be all that different from the stereotypical "nice guy" that gets lambasted around here. Many Americans believe that America is "too nice" to the rest of the world, freely giving aid to a plethora of foreign nations while 41 million Americans languish in poverty. Americans don't see that there's any concrete or substantial return for all that we do around t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 04:27 PM
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A limited time contract which is renewable, but not automatic and not for life. Once the contract expires and is not renewed, the marriage ends, with no spousal support or alimony. No community property either. Mandatory paternity tests for all births which occur during the time of marriage. In the case of custody disputes, male children should go with the father, female children should go with the mother. (Exceptions in cases where one parent is proven to be abusive, or is addicted to drugs or …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 04:05 PM
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Not all Americans are like that. (NAAALT?) The Republican Party was already bought and sold, and the Democratic Party is full of DINOs who sold out decades ago. That's part of the reason Trump resonated with a lot of blue collar voters who were abandoned by the so-called "party of the working man." There are a few Americans who can see through the bullshit, but as you may have noticed from forums like this one, sensible views get shot down while the idiots rule the roost. That's why nothing subs…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 03:38 PM
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Inner character is often a projection of outer physical appearance. That's what people often think on every election day, only to get burned time and time again. It's the same for people who get suckered by salesmen and televangelists. They think that just because they look good, it's a sign of honesty and integrity. But they're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 03:25 PM
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This is true, although in response to the comment which suggested a "rose-colored view of how men are," that would also be limited to what people actually see. It would be the same for those women who have been with multiple abusers (or possibly rapists), so that's what they see in men. Based on what they've seen in their own lives. My view of men is different, based on what I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 03:18 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 03:14 PM
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What on earth? Where did you get this idea? Maybe if you spent more time in America and less in foreign countries, you'd know this already.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 06:46 AM
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Your blind. My father never hit a woman. My grandfathers never hit a woman. None of my uncles ever hit a woman. None of my male friends have ever hit a woman. I have known a couple of women who claim to have been hit by men, and knowing the men in question, I believe them (although I never personally witnessed it). But these were men with obviously violent personalities who can be easily spotted. Usually, men are able to easily spot other men who are dangerous, but women don't have the same leve…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 04:31 AM
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I was thinking more in terms of real life encounters, not so much online, which can be deceiving. Women are also adept at faking their online persona.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 03:22 AM
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Never once in my life have I ever seen a man hit a woman, except in movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 03:13 AM
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No, that's just a lie women like to say to make it sound like they aren't shallow because women are terrified of being deemed shallow. Well, they are deemed shallow, not because they're attracted to looks, but because they're either attracted to externalities (such as cars, money, certain types of clothing, etc.) or a smooth approach touted by PUAs. A bumbler who stumbles over his words and seems "awkward," however good looking, will be deemed a "creep" in their eyes. If Adolf Hitler somehow cam…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 02:43 AM
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Women are good at detecting creeps, because a creep is just an ugly guy and it's not hard to tell if someone is ugly. I don't agree. "Creep" is a reference to their inner character, whereas being "ugly" is just a reference to their outward physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 02:31 AM
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it’s very common the women say they’ve had an “abusive boyfriend” “coming out of an abusive relationship” I see this kind of thing as a red flag, especially since soooo many women insinuate how good they are at detecting "creeps" or can read the minds of so-called "nice guys." Among other things, it proves that women's radar is so fucked up that they don't know if they're coming or going. Or it could mean that their former boyfriend was not abusive at all and that they're lying through their tee…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/17 02:10 AM
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I think the questions I ask irritating some users on here and cause them to become snarky or aggressive Well, at least you finally admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/17 05:45 PM
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Men live less than women, so there are significantly less men available for a 60 year old women to date, so they have to lower their standards if they want to have a partner. At the age of 22 there are more men than women, so women can date whoever they want (and they tend to choose men their age) You're right. That may be why men go to war, so as to cull the herd a bit. I remember reading a stat that 90% of males born in the USSR in 1923 were dead by 1945.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 02:12 AM
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My grandfather outlived my grandmother by more than a decade, and even when he was in his 90s, he had younger women in their 60s and 70s pursuing him. Although when he was in his 40s, they would have been teenagers, so it's all relative. Half your age plus 7 is a good rule of thumb to follow. If a man is 30, then a woman of 22 would be ideal. If a man is 40, then it's 27, and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 01:05 AM
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"I neither have the time nor the capability to help you. Please go talk to someone who does." In that circumstance, saying nothing at all might be preferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/17 12:47 AM
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i’m not sure this is the sub for you, based on how you’re reacting to this. there’s no other way to explain to you what happened and why; it’s okay if that makes you feel like this isn’t a community you want to participate in. You don't have to explain anything. I was explaining it to you. I don't think a sub has to be "for me," as if I plan on living here (as some people here apparently do). I'm just calling it as I see it. If you don't like my observations, then okay. You're just as entitled t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 08:59 PM
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Well until they make stethoscopes for brains we gotta work with that we got ain't we? Maybe it's just an American problem, due to our pathetic healthcare system. I'll concede that. Still, if the hippocratic oath says to do no harm, then doing nothing might be better than prescribing something with a lot of known risks and side effects, especially if they can't tell exactly what the problem is or whether the latest "happiness pill" touted by pharmaceutical companies (who are anxious to get their …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 08:55 PM
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Virtually every single branch of medicine relies on observing the patient's behaviour and asking them for symptoms. There's obvious exceptions like if you break your leg it'll be confirmed by x-ray, but I mean if you go in to see a doctor about something they will 99% of the time base their judgement on what you tell them and what they see, they will not send you in for an MRI even if it would rule things out, because it's simply not practical. At least medical doctors will do some sort of physi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 08:45 PM
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I’m not trying to fool you, I’m just letting you know what’s a rule violation and what isn’t. Fair enough. All I was saying is that not everyone has the same threshold of what constitutes a "personal attack." It always takes two to tango - that sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 08:34 PM
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I wasn't "still arguing" about it. Some responses came into my inbox hours later and so I responded to them. Eye rolling is not a personal attack. Calling someone a “retard” is. That's really just your opinion, just as I'm stating my opinion. I've been around the block a few times, and I've moderated forums myself, so I know how it goes. You can't fool me very easily. Granted, you're a moderator and I have to follow your rules when I post here, so I promise to be a good boy from here on out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 08:23 PM
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I usually try to give people the benefit of the doubt. I see nothing wrong with that. I know that MRIs are expensive. But the thing is, if meds are being prescribed because of a supposed "chemical imbalance," wouldn't it be better to actually check and see and have hard evidence of such? If we're talking about an actual physical problem with the brain, then isn't that more the realm of neurologists anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 08:15 PM
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Did you read the last one? Therapists can't prescribe medication. No, they can't prescribe medications, but the poster you responded was not referring to "therapists," per se. Some psychiatrists do conduct therapy sessions, so they may act as therapists in such instances. Nurse practitioners can also prescribe medications. I know a little something about this, since I am often present when patients have their 90-day medication reviews as required by law in my state. I'll admit I'm neither a psyc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 08:02 PM
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calling someone a retard repeatedly vs. rolling your eyes at someone’s opinion are two very different things; you’re acting as if SpaceWhiskey punished someone for doing something as mild as she had done, and that’s not what happened at all. they broke the rules, no question about it. we did have a purge week, but it was pretty unproductive (which is why that was only a limited-time event). Sure, they broke the rules, but I saw it more as mutual combat. For someone to say "I'm so innocent, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 07:45 PM
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That's like saying why say there is free speech when you still get in trouble if you yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater. Don't you think there are limits? Yes, there are limits. The "clear and present danger" rule. Since neither post constituted a "clear and present danger," then I don't see what your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 07:40 PM
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So in other words asking for advice? That may have come later, but at the initial stage, it seemed she was just trying to get information. But internet strangers can? Did you ever stop to consider why opinion polls are usually anonymous? People are more inclined to give their honest opinion if people don't know who they are. That's one benefit of asking internet strangers questions like that. One doesn't have to put oneself on the line or risk the stigma of going to a therapist in a public locat…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 07:37 PM
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None of those links indicated that the posters in question didn't know the difference between a psychiatrist and a therapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 07:30 PM
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Because it seems, that part of this sub is meant to be a sort of clash against normative spaces to argue gender issues. It's not meant to be a safe space here, as what some other people have told me. To regulate all bad netiquette is getting into Political correctness territory which seems against the point of this sub. Many subs exist as safe spaces already. I wasn't talking about political correctness, just staying on task. I don't care if people are "nice." In fact, as I said earlier, why not…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 07:26 PM
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Exactly what don't I understand mate? You didn't understand that the OP in the other thread was trying to get insight into what other people are thinking. Sometimes, soliciting opinions from random people on the internet might give some insight into that, which is what the OP was asking. A therapist can't offer any insight into that, so telling someone to talk to a therapist does not fulfill the poster's request for information. When I mentioned that, you referred to it as a "stupid argument" wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 07:20 PM
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This entire thread just proves they don't even know what therapists do. They don't even know the difference between a psychiatrist and a therapist lmao. Well, it's a pretty vague criticism to say "this entire thread just proves." That's a deflection. Who doesn't know the difference between a psychiatrist and a therapist? I know the difference, but even if someone didn't know, it wouldn't mean they don't know what it entails.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 07:09 PM
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It doesn't matter if it's directed at a person or not. It's not personal. One isn't attacking s personal feature or self. Also you appear to be making up "on topic" vs "off topic" rules which as I check, don't appear in the rules of this sub. I didn't say that they were rules, but just good netiquette. Otherwise, why discuss anything at all? If it's just a bunch of people making snarky posts to snipe at each other (while equivocating over whether a borderline comment constitutes an actual "perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 07:03 PM
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They're hiding it pretty well then. Or maybe you're just not looking or can't recognize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 06:58 PM
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If I sincerely believe that telling someone to go to therapy is good advice, does that make it valid? You missed the part where I wrote "sincerely intended to help." That's the key thing. If you don't actually care about the person and don't really intend to help them, and you're just telling a random stranger on the internet to "talk to a therapist," then I would say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 05:00 PM
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I asked the question to get better clarification on your criteria on what made advice “valid” or not. And I outlined what those criteria were. Instead of accepting my answer at face value, you kept changing the question to get more and more absurd each time, as if you leading up to some sort of "point," but failed to actually make a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 04:40 PM
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Your jumping the gun here. A perineal attack by definition has to be Ad Hominem, onto the person. An eye roll is the same as thinking someone's opinion is ridiculous. That's not attacking themselves or attributes of them. An eye roll is still directed at the person and not the topic. If someone thinks someone else's opinion is ridiculous, then the onus is on them to explain why they think their opinion is ridiculous. That would be on topic. Otherwise, it's merely an off-topic ad hominem which ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 04:37 PM
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Actually, I thought your response was the best in the thread, so it wasn't addressing you at all. It's just that some people just used it as a throwaway one-liner, and that's what I object to. It's a brush-off when it would be better to just keep silent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 04:35 PM
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Just as a point of order, I see WORLDS of difference between a medical/physical condition and emotional trauma. I wouldn't tell someone who was shot three times to go see a shaman who "cures" people with beads and rattles. As for advising people to "go to therapy," it seems like pretty cavalier advice. It's like telling people who have no transportation to "go buy a Rolls Royce." Or telling people with no bread to "eat cakes" instead. It's not realistic. Besides that, most people know what's goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 04:02 PM
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That may be true, but it does not invalidate telling people to get together so they can tandem jump off a cliff. I never said that. I was merely suggesting that you have common interests. You're the one who kept going on and on about it. I was merely trying to ask others' opinions on therapy, whether it works, whether it's valid advice to people, many of whom simply can't afford therapy. You're the one who chose to ignore the general topic and wanted to lead me down a rabbit hole which has peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 03:47 PM
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Your tone is far more hostile than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 03:39 PM
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I never encouraged or advocated suicide. You and /u/retardradical both initiated comments about jumping off a cliff/bridge. I was merely responding on the basis of the subject matter which you yourselves chose to bring into the discussion. If anyone is guilty of encouraging or advocating suicide, it's you two.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 03:30 PM
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I read the whole thing when it was post lol the entire post was just about OP's personal problem, there was no lines to read between. I read it, too. It's not exactly a "personal problem" either, since there have been others with similar complaints. If it happens to other people, then it's a cultural phenomenon, and that, I believe, was the basis of the OP's question. Well yeah they're not psychics... this is a stupid argument, like saying a doctor might be able to tell you what's causing your i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 03:26 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 03:15 PM
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What if I jumped off a cliff and there was a trampoline at the bottom, but I believed it was an angel and it changed my life, thus helping me. My advice would be “valid” in that case? This is getting too absurd. If you have a point to all of this, why don't you make it now?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 03:07 PM
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The first sentence is clearly laying out a personal problem, and the body of the actual OP said nothing about LMR despite it being mentioned in the title. It was a thinly veiled advice post. I think you're assuming that, trying to read between the lines, rather than dealing with what's actually being asked. Unfortunately, we can't refer to the body of the actual OP, since it was removed. A therapist might be able to tell an individual what goes on inside the individual's mind, but can't say what…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 03:04 PM
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Because terps think it's "girly" and don't understand what it actually entails. Or maybe they understand better than you would give them credit for.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 02:57 PM
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So the advice is valid? Only if you can prove that you've jumped off a cliff yourself and that an angel caught you, as well as that it helped you. If not, then obviously not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 02:53 PM
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And I answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 02:38 PM
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The title is literally asking for advice. This was the title: "I’d like to get my boyfriends to stop forcing sex. Is it possible that this is viewed as LMR?" The poster did not ask "How do I get my boyfriends to stop forcing sex?" It seemed that she was wondering what goes on inside the heads of men who do this kind of thing. A therapist can't answer that question. What she ostensibly wanted (at least from the title) is some insight on whether it was perceived as LMR or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 02:36 PM
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If it was truly sincere, then it would come from a viewpoint of sympathy, understanding and personal experience. If you can honestly say that you yourself have jumped off a cliff and an angel caught you, then it would be sincere. But then you might be asked to demonstrate how it could be helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 02:30 PM
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It's a debate sub not an advice sub, the reason people say that is to direct the person asking for advice in a direction that they feel is more likely to be of better use to them than anything the people on here can offer, I mean would you really want to take advice from most of the people here? Would you encourage anyone else to take advice from most of the people here? Think about it. Just as with anything else on the internet, it's a "take it or leave it" kind of thing. One might ask, if it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 02:16 PM
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What is “valid advice”? I would say it's advice which is sincerely intended to help, as opposed to "let them eat cakes."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 02:10 PM
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I'm not sure the other poster was being snarky. I think he was a bit heavy-handed, which can be irritating, but is not a deflection or evasion of the topic. Just to give an example of what I mean, consider the following hypothetical exchange. Me: 2+2=5 Snarky: Maybe you should go back to school and learn basic arithmetic. (A deflection, since it didn't offer a correction yet was mildly insulting and had no reason for being posted at all. A useless comment.) Insulting: No, 2+2=4, you stupid, imbe…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 12:43 PM
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Well, the trouble with saying "a little snark is fine" is that it creates a nebulous gray area which leaves things open to interpretation. Even the rules can't be so exact and specific as to spell out where the line is drawn. I think snark is really just an attempt at deflection or evasion of a topic. It could be considered a form of trolling, a way of goading someone just to push their buttons so that they become angry and spew out vitriol, at which point they'd be considered guilty of a rule v…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 12:23 PM
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Well, as far as the rules go, if you're violating the same rules you're expected to enforce, then that sets a poor example. If such practices are considered acceptable by the moderating team (and my observations here show that they are), then taking it to modmail won't do any good. I'm not sure I would interpret the previous poster's comments as "glib." Perhaps he/she was being a bit too heavy handed by saying "you should," but it did seem a valid question to ask what you were saying to those me…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 11:52 AM
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Is internet eye rolling a personal attack? It was definitely personal, since a person wrote his/her thoughts, and rather than respond to the comment, you said "rolling my eyes." It's certainly not a compliment. Some would interpret it as insulting and intentionally trolling someone to escalate (which is apparently what happened, although I can't see the other person's deleted posts). I would say this was a case of "mutual combat," and to use your moderator privileges in such a case is unethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 10:54 AM
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I thought there weren't supposed to be any personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 10:31 AM
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Sure, sounds okay to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 10:30 AM
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I don't think women can help with this particular issue. What men need to do is develop a stronger backbone and not get caught up in the pressures put upon them to have sex at all costs. Men make themselves susceptible to "virgin shaming," or being called "fag" or "pussy" if they're not getting laid regularly. Men have to be stronger than that. They have to act more like...men. All these thirsty men, PUAs, etc., falling all over themselves trying to get laid - they are a disgrace to manhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/17 03:52 AM
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I don't think there are any political problems , feminists need to pretend they're victimized to have any hold on power in this world I think that can be said for both sides. All sides ostensibly see problems of one sort or another, even if few can agree exactly what those problems might be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 03:30 PM
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I wasn't thinking in terms of individual problems of winners and losers, but more problems that seem common to many that leads to some advocating political solutions. I remember Emma Watson making some speech where she was putting a call out to men to help women with whatever "problems" they might have. Why would she do that, if there are no "problems" (as many here in PPD seem to believe)?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 01:29 PM
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The entire debate on here is rather pointless, and just for filling time, in my opinion. That would sum up nearly every political discussion, but at least in most political discussions, people are aware of what they're talking about. Not here, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:52 PM
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There's no ONE problem. No one is saying we live in a perfect world. But these different problems are all rooted by the fact that women and men are different and have to live in the same world together. The only solution is openness to each other's issues and for everyone to stop being dicks. People know this but ignore it because they're selfish and the cycle continues. Sure, I'll buy that for a dollar. I just find it interesting that some of the respondents in this thread were falling all over…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/17 12:50 PM
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No one responded to the argument because it's terrible. Why respond at all then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 02:10 PM
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Not responding to arguments (yet responding anyway) is just a tactic which is usually found in most circle-jerk forums. I wouldn't pay it much mind. The right-wing view might be slightly different than what you're saying, though. The right-wing, pro-life view would stress that a couple with an unwanted pregnancy shouldn't have been having sex out of wedlock in the first place. The child would have been considered "illegitimate" (aka "a bastard"). But the fathers of such children might still have…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 02:02 PM
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Well, if the quote from the sidebar is accurate, that PPD is a place to discuss sex and gender issues, then it seems like a pretty wide area of discussion. I've also noted some who (in other threads) note that there are some problems within this area (such as those addressed by the #metoo movement and other such scandals). There are also things that get complained about such as slut shaming, "rape culture," and so on. So, when people come back and claim "no problem" in the areas which PPD specif…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/17 01:35 PM
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Okay, so it's about sex and gender issues. I already knew that. That being the case, are you saying that there are no problems or issues under dispute, either here or in society at large? If there are problems, then what is the larger picture and asking if there are any solutions. This was not intended to be confrontational. I'm not sure what the reason for these kinds of responses
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 06:51 PM
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I'm just asking what is the subject matter? What is the "debate" about? Pills? I never said the mods are Hitler or even was thinking about that. What you seem to be complaining about in terms of my post is similar to what I observe in PPD. It seems that something drives people here, more than just being bored or just killing time. Obviously, something compels people to post on these topics. Like if this was a forum about fishing, I would presume the posters would enjoy fishing and posting about …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 05:44 PM
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No, just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 04:22 PM
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I guess I'm just not sure what you're expecting or wanting to happen here. Well, I think there's a tendency here to try to quash any wider discussion of things which "someone" deems "not relevant to PPD." Issues connect with each other, and they can't always be compartmentalized into one neat little box that every discussion seems to fall into. That's why discussions seem to fall into the same merry-go-round. I can see your point about individuals making their own changes and doing their own thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 04:19 PM
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You keep using words such as "problem" and "solution" with almost no context. Who is this a "problem" to and why is it even a "problem", why does it need a "solution", what is this "solution" supposed to even look like? I don't know. That's why I was asking the question. If there's no problem, then nevermind.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 04:08 PM
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Right. The way political disputes have always been solved before. War. Let's see if feminists are indeed as strong as they claim Well, there seems to be a lot of talk of war these days, whether with North Korea, Syria, and elsewhere. Some states talk about secession and a widening rift between the blue states and red states, which may coincide with "blue pill" and "red pill."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 04:07 PM
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Now my question is what is this "solution" supposed to look like. It would seem that a good start would be for both sides to clearly delineate what it is they want, and which areas they might be willing to compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 04:01 PM
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Having an argument about society or that has societal implications does not mean that you are trying to change society or solve any of it's problems. No, but it does mean that those who have such arguments already have some political or societal basis for formulating their views in the first place. They argue about things they care about; I don't really believe that people are quite so disconnected or detached from things if they're arguing about it one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 03:55 PM
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Perhaps "solution" may not be the right word, but the thing is, there are issues discussed which are common to most people. The only thing is that, here and in the other "pill" forums they seem too caught up in "pill world" that they've somehow disconnected themselves from the real world. Or at least, that's how it appears to me at times. I can see how it happens, but doesn't anyone have any thoughts about the future? I see the complaints from both sides. I may not live in this subreddit like so…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 03:48 PM
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Some men complain about feminism inasmuch as they see feminism complaining about men, so men might believe that they have a right to defend themselves or put forth their own counter complaints. I don't really see why there should be a problem with that, although I agree with you that no one really seems to be offering any solutions. The Blue Pillers seem to complain that the Red Pill even exists at all, and that also seems to fall in line with certain political viewpoints. I'm not saying that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 03:25 PM
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Well, sometimes, it's hard to say. Some posts seem to have more of a personal issue, whether it's about height, attraction, not being able to get laid, etc. Then there are others who look more at the political implications, such as the recent #metoo movement or the general effect that and other issues have had over the dating culture and relations between men and women. So, there do seem to be some larger "societal" (for lack of a better term) implications to what is being discussed here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 03:04 PM
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Whatever it is that people complain about around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 02:44 PM
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I never really did relate to all this "pill" business anyway. If it started off as a reference to The Matrix, it seems to have gone awry. The movie itself hasn't aged very well. These are the pills I would prefer
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 02:01 PM
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Plenty of Western women ARE friendly, open, not entitled, loving, and have a good attitude. Sure, there are plenty who are and plenty who are not. But from some of the ex-pat forums I've read, a lot of men seem to have found too many who fit the category I described. In my own observations, I have also found it to be true in a lot of cases (but not all, obviously). I'm not sure if it's all old white guys going over there, nor are they all going there for that specific purpose. Many of them are y…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 03:07 PM
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why do white men flock to Asia to hook up with poor uneducated Asian girls. I've wondered about that, too, although from what I've heard, many white men believe Asian women to be nicer and friendlier than Western women (who come off as stuck-up, unfriendly, entitled, selfish, and just generally have a bad attitude).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 01:31 PM
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So half of women have a "Plan B" in case their relationship goes sour? And they say men are afraid of commitment... It also goes to show just how truly needy some women are for male companionship, even if it's from "Plan B." If a man breaks up, he's probably relieved "Oh, I'm so glad that bitch is out of my life!" But if a woman breaks up, she thinks "I need another man right away."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 03:40 AM
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I suppose there might be some harsh views on prostitution and men who have been with prostitutes, considering that it is illegal in many jurisdictions. As to your point that people should not reveal their sexual past, I can think of some good reasons both pro and con. One reason for being more open and forthcoming is that - it's going to come up sooner or later. Especially these days when people post about everything they do on the internet. "Old friends" seem to pop up out of nowhere. By the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 03:13 AM
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So wouldn't it be better if we just got rid of threads by people that don't even know what they actually argue against? That would be most of your threads, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/17 02:01 AM
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I wasn't aware that "loser" was an official psychiatric term. Some might use the term more to describe one's socioeconomic status, not certain character flaws or shortcomings. Other than that, some of it seems valid in terms of recognizing the warning signs of an abusive personality type. I've seen lists like this before. There have been many similar articles about how to recognize abusers. One would think with such a wealth of information out there on this topic, more people would go into relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 03:43 PM
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She never said what her answer was to the question of whether she had a boyfriend. All she was trying to do was psychoanalyze the guy to try to figure out why he asked the question in that way. Her post didn't indicate whether she liked the guy or didn't like the guy. She seemed to be more heavily focused on "Well, what did he actually mean by that?" You know, when it comes down to it, feminism is more about men than it is about women. Feminists seem more focused on what men think about women, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/17 03:22 PM
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I got a kick out of this one: https://captainwrongthink.com/2017/12/16/get-your-popcorn-ready-feminists-are-now-attacking-white-women-and-it-is-glorious/ Do white women deserve the abuse they’re about to suffer? The objective answer is: Hell yes. Absolutely. Should they expect any assistance whatsoever from the men they’ve been abusing for the past decade? No fucking way. One of the last things that white women should reasonably expect is for anyone to care about their plight. They’re strong, in…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/17 09:17 PM
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I still say he got a pass. Besides, even though he was impeached, he wasn't convicted. His supporters still stood by him. It was only the right wing who criticized him. He was the Democratic version of the Teflon President.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 05:06 PM
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His wife gave him a pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 04:09 AM
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Impeached for lying, not adultery.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 12:04 AM
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The trope is widely accepted; the rationalization is not. Cheating husbands, especially those with kids, have always been seen as scumbags You mean, like Bill Clinton?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 04:55 PM
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Isn't this just male hypoagency? Suddenly now it's men who are heeding hamsters? How is this any different when men accuse women of putting 'feels before reals'? It's not "suddenly." The idea of men being constantly horny and always having one thing on their mind has been around forever. It's part of popular culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 04:40 PM
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It may be due to popular conceptions and stereotypes about men and women. Men are seen as eternal horndogs who only have one thing on their mind. They're portrayed as perpetually horny and will fuck practically anything. They're more likely to be forgiven because they just can't help themselves, biologically speaking. Women, on the other hand, claim to be more discerning and better judges of character, since they can spot "creeps" just by looking at them. They also claim that they can go without…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 04:32 PM
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And this is relevant to ppd how? Isn't PPD supposed to be about men, women, and politics? I can't think of anything that would be more relevant than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 03:08 PM
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as women age their standards get HIGHER. I've noticed this as well, especially as women get into their late 30s and 40s - and have a number of partners and broken relationships in their past. They're more inclined to have a longer list of what they don't want as opposed to what they do want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 01:35 PM
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In my experience, I've noted that attraction is not enough. A man also has to be aggressive and take initiative. There also has to be a certain emotional attraction, since that's what women seem to go for. Women are not as visual as men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 01:29 AM
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Depends, how big are her gazongas? I was thinking the exact same thing when I saw the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 01:23 AM
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It depends on the individual personality and what one grows accustomed to. If one is used to a more solitary existence, it's probably more tolerable than those who are used to being in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 05:16 PM
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And that is to the detriment of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 05:25 PM
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Pushing agendas is what politics is all about. Those who are pro gun, pro immigrant and pro feminist are also pushing agendas. Everyone has an ax to grind.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 04:46 PM
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Well, for one thing, gun violence. Guns only account for less than 2% of total deaths in America, yet people make a thing about it - and for good reason, too. Terrorism affects even fewer people, yet some people think it's a big deal. The point is, just because something affects a seemingly "small" percentage of people does not mean it should not be addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 03:32 PM
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4% is such a small percentage It's not that small. There are other issues which affect an even smaller percentage of the population, yet some people turn them into national crises.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 03:03 PM
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This just in: human beings are often hypocritical. Pretty sure that's always been a thing. Yes, and there's always been virulent opposition to hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is not something to tolerate or embrace. Unless we enjoy living in a quasi police state which has to constantly be on guard against terrorism and other violent folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:58 PM
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If almost 4% of US fathers are victims of paternity fraud, isn't this a large scale abuse against men? I would say it's more abusive towards the children who aren't told the truth about who their father is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 02:19 PM
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Well, sure it's all dependent on the situation. If a woman is being harassed on the street or something, then yes. But if it's in the workplace, then there's HR. O don't think the average male can protect women from the likes of Harvey Weinstein. If that was the case, I'd simply say she should quit and walk away. Then they would say "But...but my CAREER!" Nothing "other males" can do about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 04:46 PM
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Other males. Unless they're police officers (who have much bigger fish to fry), I don't see much incentive for "other males" to do much of anything, do you? Unless they're "white knights" who might expect something in return for their "protection," and then you're back to square one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 03:12 PM
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What "they" want is to be protected from strange males. "Protected" by whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 02:18 PM
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It's a short read It wasn't that short. A rather long-winded, disjointed story about a young college woman going out on a bad date with bad sex, and this is supposed to be "proof of how difficult it is to be a woman in the modern world"? I look at it more as proof of just how pampered, soft, spoiled, insulated, and frivolous Western women have become. I've talked to women who survived the Siege of Leningrad and endured the Battle of Stalingrad. I'll concede that the guy was a bit of a turd, a 34…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 02:06 PM
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Now the question is: should we limit sexual advances to this particular field? Should we only allow these interactions to take place in well defined scenarios designed exclusively for this topic? That would help eradicate unwanted advances, and very effectively. I don't know that this would make much of a difference. People are people, regardless of where they are. All one can do is govern and restrain one's own behavior. What other people do is on them and no one else's business. Back in earlie…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 01:31 PM
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I never said you did. The OP said it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 01:44 AM
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It's a cop out to say that men are "monsters" and attributing it solely to maleness without looking at the larger picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 12:38 AM
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Not all of them, obviously, since not all men turn out to be monsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 09:39 PM
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The real question is why do men become monsters in the first place? What drives them to that point? Who has the greatest influence on men from the very beginning of their lives? Which gender is more likely to create these "monsters"?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 09:24 PM
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Just keep it out of the workplace (or school, if applicable). Best bet is to date and socialize with people you don't work with or go to school with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 11:36 AM
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Well the same warped view of their self is also true for perpetrators of genocide who for some reason think that they are good, nice people even if they literally slaughtered hundreds of innocent people. Well, I'm sure they're nice to their own people. Just like our own military and politicians who order the bombings of innocent women and children; I'm sure many would see them as "nice." Some even call them "heroes." Go figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:51 PM
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Who are those blues you're speaking of? I would say any blue piller who labels someone a "misogynist" for observing or criticizing female behaviors in a candid and frank manner. Anyone who doesn't agree that "women are wonderful" is labeled a "misogynist" by the blue pill crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 04:19 AM
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Or can you really only see "who cares, had sex". Do you understand this is not a female attitude? I understand that this is yet another example where women say one thing, yet their actions demonstrate otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 01:42 PM
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For the truly desperate and incels ( or anyone if you're interested), would you go to war if it meant you'd have more sexual/romantic opportunity afterwards? Not just that, but even during the war, the troops would be occupying foreign soil with most of their men gone, too. In Germany after WW2, US Servicemen said that all it took was a pack of cigarettes to get laid. And in France and elsewhere, women came out in droves to greet the Allied liberators. Women all over the world just love American…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/17 08:58 AM
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Why isn't it important to raise your attractiveness quotient for a high earning partner, as well as a sex partner? Or is that part of the package? Or is this a function of the age of a lot of redpill advocates? I'm not sure if it would make much difference either way. That is, if these are men trying to raise their attractiveness quotient with women, would it be any different with a woman who earns a high salary versus a woman who earns a low salary? Are the standards of attraction between wealt…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 02:51 PM
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Something that could've been very beneficial to men and enlightening to women if they'd stuck to their goals of helping men instead of bashing women/feminists. You could be right, although what I've observed is that the men's rights movement seems to focus on pointing out inconsistencies or examples of hypocrisy among women and feminists, calling into question their sincerity when they claim to want equality for all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/17 02:19 PM
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3)Something else? A post-apocalyptic wasteland, full of zombies and crazed mutants, with the rest of humanity huddled together in ruined cities subsisting on soylent green. The worst part would be the killer cockroaches. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjiOb8WZoEo
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/17 05:20 AM
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It's only hypocritical if the other side stops after the first complaint. If they refuse, then it's just fighting fire with fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 08:19 PM
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Do you see femininity as made up of only positive traits? Just as with masculinity, I suppose there are both positive and negative traits, along with the "toxic" forms of both. I think a lot of the discussion revolves around what is considered "natural" or biological versus what is conditioned by culture and upbringing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 12:20 PM
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Just as Clint Eastwood said in Unforgiven: "Deserve's got nothin' to do with it." Does anyone deserve anything in this life? If so, does everyone get what they deserve? What about people who were born with a disability or suffered some physical injury where they're unable to even have sex? Did they deserve that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 12:00 PM
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How hypocritical though. Is it? It's merely responding in kind, returning hatred for hatred. In fact, I would say it's hypocritical for people who say it's okay to hate under some circumstances but not okay under other circumstances. For decades, society has turned the blind eye to hatred against men, so it sends the implied message that "hate," in and of itself, is an acceptable tactic. You can't have it both ways. That would be hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 11:45 AM
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I think it's more a matter of being vindictive than hateful. Maybe there's not much difference, but there's a difference between attacking without provocation versus counter-attacking. Women and feminists have been exuding unmitigated hatred towards men these past decades, so now they're getting some of it back in return. It's only fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/17 02:39 AM
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I don't know that "sympathy" is really the issue here. I would say it's more a matter of awareness, intelligence, and understanding that actions and choices have consequences. In other words, women need to smarten up and stop playing dumb. I don't really care if women sympathize with men or not. I know many of them do, but that's beside the point. The problem that I've seen these past decades is an inordinate amount of attention on feminist issues and demands for sympathy from men. I think some …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 03:12 PM
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I would say that you're correct in that there are consequences from hateful speech, but one must also keep in mind that hateful speech, in and of itself, is also a consequence of something else. That's what so many people seem to miss in the whole debate over hate speech. A lot of people treat it as some kind "strange mystery" that just pops up out of nowhere for no reason. Sure, everyone (including yourself) wants to bring up the consequences of hate speech, but few people want to discuss the c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/17 02:45 PM
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If you're so convinced that we're a cohesive movement then why don't you tell us what the movement is about. Because I sure as hell don't know. Think of it this way: Suppose that, for the past several decades and spanning at least three generations, people in the West have been socialized, conditioned to, and inculcated with the ideals of Western feminism and how to spot "misogyny." Hell, even the use of the word "misogyny" indicates adherence to a political ideology. When you observe a group of…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 06:31 PM
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You don't necessarily need an alternative to say something is false. That's like saying that ghost hunters or UFO believesrs are crazy. I don't have to definitively say what the supposed anomaly was to determine it was NOT a ghost or UFO. It just wasn't whatever they think it was... I would suggest that to even get to square one of deciding that ghost hunters or UFO believers are crazy would require some from of initiation into the concepts and some measure of discussion and study as to what the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 06:15 PM
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Are men who don't want to be masculine in the minority or fringe minority? Probably in the fringe minority. No boy or young man wants to be told that he's a "wimp" or that he "throws like a girl." In fact, doing anything "like a girl" is considered a pejorative when applied to men or boys. A guy who's acting like a "pussy" will often be told to "be a man!" Men are often conditioned and socialized to not display emotion (except anger when appropriate). I don't think there's any female equivalent …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 05:52 PM
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I think BPers are masters at gainsaying. If an RPer said "2+2=4," the BPers would automatically say "NO! That's not true! You just hate women!" That's just how they are. There's no particular logic or meaning to it, nor do they have any ground to stand on - other than blind conformity to established political ideals.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 05:20 PM
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It depends on the context. I'm an American and I use "the legislature" all the time when referring to the state legislature. I hear it spoken quite a bit. At the federal level, we say "Congress," but I might often use the phrase "legislative branch" when speaking more generically.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 02:04 PM
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One thing to keep in mind, in interacting with anyone over topics of a political nature, there is always a chance you might get labeled, regardless of whatever you may call yourself. Sure, it's rude, but that's the nature of politics. Part of the issue here is that the term "feminist" is often interpreted and defined every which way, depending on the context it's brought up. "Liberal" is another term which is kind of the same way. Strictly speaking, anyone who believes in a democratic, Constitut…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 12:15 PM
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Also lel matt forney. I don't like that guy. I once disagreed with one of his articles, and next thing I know, I was banned from commenting on the Return of Kings website.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 12:01 PM
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All of this cold, calculating sexual strategy I see him displaying really puts me off, and makes me think he's just an insecure ass. And you know what? I actually was attracted to him before all of these shenanigans. So, that's my experience. What do you think will be the impact of everyone being well read in TRP? I don't think much would change. After all, even before TRP or the internet, men would try to pick up women and use whatever "strategies" they would come across. Men have always freely…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/17 11:52 AM
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As for how Americans tend to use the term "libertarian," they might see libertarians as Republicans who like to smoke pot. Basically, they're former hippies who found some sort of niche in life, made a good deal of money, and ended up supporting conservative economic policies while still enjoying a life of sex, drugs, and rock & roll. Many are also atheists and have strong disagreements with the religious right, as well as the nationalist/patriotic right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 12:20 AM
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Not always. Noam Chomsky is a libertarian, and he's often associated with the left wing. Libertarians can go up and down the spectrum, but for the most part, they're left-leaning on social issues and right-leaning on economic issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 11:41 PM
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I don't think RP is right-wing. They actually come across more as libertarians, who are sometimes incorrectly associated with the right, but they're not really the same. RPers seem more inclined to look for ways to adapt themselves to the current system to maximize individual and personal benefit, but they don't appear willing or able to start any revolutions or bring about any great political change. Nationalists don't really think in those terms; they tend to think more in terms of the benefit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 11:14 PM
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As far as manspreading, I haven't been on a bus or train for years, so I haven't really experienced it much. I can see where it could be seen as inconsiderate, but the whole thing about "manspreading" seems like making a mountain out of a molehill. It's a bit over the top. I've heard of "mansplaining" and "manbaby" but not the other terms. But these are behaviors which can be attributed to both genders, so I'm not sure why these would be considered only male behaviors. These terms might be good …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 07:04 AM
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Even in countries like Russia with a reversed ratio, men still have to pursue and face competition. Maybe so, although there's a plethora of women from Russia putting themselves on international dating and marriage sites. Plus, I recall a story about a woman kidnapping and holding a man captive for several days, feeding him Viagra and raping him multiple times. It sounds like women over there are a bit desperate and aggressive. As far as women not pursuing men, that's an indication that women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/17 04:08 AM
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Well, since I have no plans to sexually assault anyone, I'm not too worried about it. I agree it does seem rather ludicrous to define something as "rape" if it only amounts to pinching someone's butt.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 08:49 PM
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But there is also the more disturbing aspect, the white knight expecting recompense (romantic/sexual), and the robbing of the agency of women. One aspect of the white knight scenario is that there oftentimes really isn't (or shouldn't be) any thought of reward for their heroic deeds. Presumably, their reward would be in Heaven. That's not to say there wouldn't be plenty with ulterior motives and some expectation of "reward," although it shouldn't be automatically assumed that such an expectation…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/17 08:20 PM
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An aspiring surgeon worries that going to jail for stabbing her boyfriend will hurt her career?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 10:24 PM
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I believe that the real truth is online. That people show their real selves on the internet but hide who they are in real life. I don't know, sometimes it seems just the opposite, since people can assume any number of identities and personas.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/17 05:12 AM
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I'm not sure if it was all that "bad" back then. Things were changed as a result of WW2, but in the aftermath, our society became more affluent, more productive, with a higher standard of living across the board. People had more luxuries, more leisure time, and more diversions in which to spend their leisure time. I don't think women were as repressed as they had been 50 years earlier. Things were not quite so strict as they once were, although by '63 people got more daring in pushing the envelo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 08:57 PM
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What I want to ask though is if you think this is a real issue or not. Does it deserve attention or is this only a small number of men? Not sure how many this issue affects, although I noticed that it seems like just a local story for NYC. It may be just in that area, not necessarily a nationwide problem. But if it does deserve to be looked at then what can be done to fix it? Are women going to have to adjust their dating standards? Will men grow up? Well, the phrase "grow up" is pretty general …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 08:32 PM
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It is often expressed on here, and I assume the manosphere generally, that the SMP represents a 'decline'. I think the "decline" might be referring to the drop in birth rates in the West, as well as the perceived decline in family values, the overall economic/social decline, and the West's gradually diminishing influence in the world. Western populations and cultures are gradually being displaced by third-worlders, and the very culture and political system which have allowed liberalism and femin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 07:44 PM
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Also, men made less money in 1963 than they do today Not true, if you factor in the rate of inflation. People made roughly the same back then as they do now.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/17 06:40 PM
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But in the system now someone can get away from the others and start their own company or business so they can get their ideas out there and have a leadership position despite what society thinks. They could have done that at any time, even before the civil rights movement and before identity politics took hold. Even blacks owned property and slaves during the time of slavery. You see, I don't trust society to give me that chance to prove myself. And yet, you trust society to uphold your civil r…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 09:04 PM
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Yes, but if there was economic and political equality, none of this other stuff would matter that much. The only thing that might happen is some people might not like other people, but that's just how life is anyway. It's the economic disparity which causes all the misery. Without that, everything else will fall into place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 07:25 PM
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Sure, it's understandable when walking alone at night in a big city - you just never know what sort of crazies are out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 12:46 PM
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when you're socially awkward or have built a person up in your head and are finally getting to talk to them you're likely to be visibly nervous. but to someone who doesn't live in your head and doesn't know what you're thinking that's a red flag... "what's he nervous about? is he planning something? is he gonna put something in my drink?" This part seems so ridiculous and paranoid. Are you telling me that women are so utterly clueless that they don't understand that men might be a little nervous…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 10:37 AM
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You get it wrong. Marxists are against racism, homophobia and the rest of the stuff the liberals are worried about. The point is that class will always be more important than race and gender. By eliminating the class system, most of the problems of the blacks would be solved. Well, you're absolutely right on this point. Eliminating the class system would also solve most of the problems decried by those who embrace identity politics, and yet, so many refuse to see. In any case, if the Democrats h…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 10:27 AM
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"Identity Politics" are about people of color not wanting to live in a white nationalist apartheid state. Go fight your Marxist psychodrama somewhere else. Physician, heal thyself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 10:11 AM
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With 7 billion people on Earth (and counting), automation killing lots of jobs in the future and contraception being freely availbale, children are freely chosen luxury. Exactly. We have more than enough people on the planet, so anyone who has more than 1 child is unnecessarily wasting resources. Instead of getting tax deductions, they should be raising taxes on anyone with more than 1 child.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 10:05 AM
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From the article: The area wasn’t a great one but it’s considered far safer than many others in London I had to stop reading right there. Whenever women write articles like this, they're almost ALWAYS from either London or New York.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 09:53 AM
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Do they think the American Democrats are "leftists"? They're pretty much center-right. It's all relative, I suppose, although my sense is that most feminists in America today are pro-corporate capitalists - especially the career women like Hillary. They're not even the way Democrats used to be back in the 1940s through 60s, when they supported more coherent economic programs. The Democrats are no longer the party of working people. That's why they lost the last election, and what's more, the Dem…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 09:40 AM
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I didn't remove anything. She added that term hours after my response was posted.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/17 09:13 AM
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And yet most guys know how to work out, be reasonably confident, and have decent social skills without having even heard of trp ;) There's nothing about TRP which wouldn't have been considered normal back 50-60 years ago. The only difference now is that generations have been raised with a lot of fucked-up ideas, so TRP is a way of undoing the damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 11:31 PM
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Incels seem to fathom women as these perfectly discerning women who only seek out to reward the most deserving of individuals. Actually, it's the women who imply that they are so perfectly discerning, as the OP mentioned. I've seen women say this over and over, that they can "just tell" who's a creep and who's not. Actually, some women are idiots. Some women are naive. Some women are damaged. Some women are shitty and thus surround themselves with equally shitty men because it's what they relate…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 11:20 PM
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I wasn't really offering the film as "proof" of anything. It was just an illustrative example of the concept you brought up. I don't really take it lightly either; I'm sure that many of these women were stuck between a rock and a hard place - especially if their families were being threatened. But some people fought back, both men and women. The fact that so many still remained loyal and fought heroically and bravely against insurmountable odds and untold dangers is a testament to human will and…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 03:48 PM
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Lets look at his claim that a lot of women sided with the enemy in WW2, this is true, however in a war situation where people are desperate it makes sense for some to betray their nation. Whether it makes sense or not is not the issue. A betrayal is still a betrayal. Speaking of Greece and WW2, there's a fictional film called The Guns of Navarone, which was quite popular back in the day. An Allied commando unit was assigned to destroy some German artillery guns on an occupied Greek island. They …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 03:26 PM
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"Women should choose better husbands if they do not want to get beat", "women shouldn't wear short skirts if they do not want to get raped", "women choose what masculinity is". Manosphere users have a tendency to assign hypoagency to men,em are not in control of themselves in most of their views. Not really. As a man, I can't control the actions of other men. When women bring up issues like domestic violence or rape, all I can really say is that I don't do those things and leave it at that. If w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 02:50 PM
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Feminism may have had some leftist origins, and there may be some Marxist forms of feminism out there (but with a rather small following). Most feminism and social justice of today is tied in with identity politics which has all but jettisoned any aspects of class struggle which is associated with Marxism and communism. Feminism is largely the domain of wealthy, privileged white women whose only major hurdle is breaking through the "glass ceiling" which 99% of the population will never be able t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 02:30 PM
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Do Women Hate Weak/Unattractive Men? They'll obviously deny it, but sometimes, you can tell just how much contempt they have for men in general - although weak/unattractive men are even worse in their eyes. For example, the OP of this thread compares unattractive men to dog shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 02:16 PM
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It doesn't matter how many surveys indicate this, how many women tell them this, what scientific research is produced, they will still continue to make this misattribution. The primary reason for the kind of confusion you're noting is that there are so many mixed messages out there. That's why so many men make hay of the fact that "we were lied to!" You know why men and women don't understand each other? Because men always listen to what women say (when they shouldn't), and women never listen to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 02:04 PM
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As far as race and dating, I don't think attitudes are the same as they used to be. Most people don't seem to care what race someone chooses to date. Some people might still care - or they might be concerned what their family or friends might think if they're dating outside their race. As for online dating, some sites seem to be more international in their scope, and there are some Westerners (mainly men) seeking foreign spouses from different parts of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 05:57 AM
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Would you want to free yourself from the intense, biological desire to find a partner and to find love, if you could do it without unwelcome side effects? I'm not sure if this is really the issue. If someone was stranded alone on an island - assuming they had sources of food and fresh water available - they could still survive without companionship. If you realized you were going to be alone and knew there was never going to be anyone else around, then that's survivable - even without becoming a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 05:31 AM
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Probably for the same reason why men are less forgiving of men. They expect more from men and hold men to a higher standard. That's implied when people say "Be a man!"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 04:54 AM
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A lot of threads about "The Wall" lately. It's making me feel Comfortably Numb, while I'm sitting here Waiting For The Worms. I can't predict much about the future, but two things will likely remain constant: People will continue to age. People will still want to have some sort of partner or SO to grow old with - for the most part. (And many will still end up alone just the same.) I don't know how much things will change in the future. If the present and recent past are anything to go by, there …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 04:50 AM
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It may be some latent sexism, I suppose, in that women are more easily forgiven because they're not held to the same standard. Men tend to be harsher and less forgiving with other men. Or as Vito Corleone put it: I spent my life trying not to be careless -- women and children can be careless, but not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 04:02 AM
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It is correct to say that every single male willing to have sexual intercourse or date, is technically an option, it is also correct to say that instead of eating food, one could go to the nearest dog park and find a pile of a dog's feces to eat, but that is not all to realistic for a person to do. Well, not feces (unless you believe that unattractive human beings are nothing but dog shit), but if someone is hungry and can't get regular food, they might eat out of garbage cans or forage for what…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 03:42 AM
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cmv = cucumber mosaic virus
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 08:24 PM
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Now I wont pretend that things don't change at all with each. Things did get a bit harder and I had to learn to start approaching guys a lot more instead of just waiting to be approached, but I'm not having anywhere near the kind of problems that "post wall" women are supposed to be having, and neither are any of the older women I know. I think you summed it up here. I've noticed that women do start to change as they're no longer in their early prime. They start to grow up a little more, mature …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 02:50 PM
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Well, again, it all seems that it would be in the eye of the beholder. The person doing the "treating" may have entirely different intentions and thoughts than what might be perceived or assumed by the receiver of such treatment. True, there are times and situations where men might be talking with women - and they can't help but notice their bodies or get their minds reeling with impure thoughts. It's not that they mean to treat them as "objects" or things, but they're looking on a more "primal"…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 09:19 PM
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My parents would be a textbook case of what happens when a beta provider marries an alpha widow. To make a long story short, she cheated on him - but my father still wanted her back and make the marriage work, although she divorced him because she was "unhappy." Years later, she explained that she probably would have never married my father in the first place, but that she believed that he would be an "acceptable" and "respectable" husband that her own father would approve of. I also suspect tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 09:02 PM
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The definition you gave says that if you treat them merely as sexual instruments, it's objectification. If they're "partners or friends whom I also desire sexually," then... it's not. Then by this definition, sexual objectification is in the eye of the beholder. Only I would know if I'm sexually objectifying someone. It's not something that someone else can assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 08:16 PM
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That is the definition of sexism. And you're saying that's a "state of nature"?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 08:04 PM
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Maybe I'm old fashioned on this, but I think male prisoners should only have male guards, and female prisoners should only have female guards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 05:34 PM
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A state of nature regarding Sexism, oh Pedantic One. But how would that play out in reality? A lot of the laws, structures, and institutions in society were designed to resist, reform, and restrain the "state of nature." Sexism was never really "natural," but rather, it was designed to resist and restrain the more primal urges in men and keep women protected and sheltered from the kinds of dangers they faced.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 05:24 PM
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You think without laws we would not return to a state of nature? Your OP only suggests removal of some laws, not all laws. There would still be laws, so it wouldn't be a state of nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 04:15 PM
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Both made experiences that are on the polar opposite and both think that the other one is just crazy, paranoid, lying or living in bizarro world. The irony here is that both grew up in the same world, probably the same country and possibly even in the same school district. They probably saw the same cartoons and kids shows, saw the same movies, read many of the same children's books, listened to the same music (more or less). And unless they're raised in some rural backwater, they would both get…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 04:07 PM
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And women face just as much Sexism today as they always have. This is absolutely not true. Attitudes have changed significantly over the past few generations. Things are nowhere near what they were like 100 years ago, at least not in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 03:41 PM
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this is me attempting to explain why society views sexism against men as less harmful than sexism against women Yes, this is the commonly used argument for justifying "reverse sexism" (or "reverse racism" where applicable). However, the problem is not so much a matter of who's oppressing whom, but more a matter of moral and logical inconsistency (and possibly hypocrisy). We constantly hear how every woman is different, how they should be judged as individuals and not as part of a collective mono…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/17 03:22 PM
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Meek men who don't challenge "dick moves"/"asshole behaviours" have partial responsibility in creating the perception that being an asshole is alpha. You may be correct to some degree, although a lot of this also comes down to upbringing and conditioning early in life. Most people are raised to be meek and mild-mannered, usually through religious upbringing or some other conformist philosophy. Also, both the law and society at large tend to look down on vigilante justice, so it's a situation whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 09:09 PM
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Well, I suppose men can do the same thing, as far as objectifying themselves - at least if they have the looks and physique to be able to pull it off. There could be a double-standard in that it's oftentimes accepted that a woman can view a man purely as a sex object, yet a man is criticized for doing the same thing. Men don't even really seem to mind all that much if they're viewed as sex objects. But women act like it's some horrible thing. They go to Coachella or bars with their midriffs show…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 06:03 PM
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Well, I can't really challenge your view here, since I largely agree with it. Although, in practice, I think it's mainly a function of party politics. Clinton was a Democrat who was friendly to many social liberal and feminist causes, so they were willing to overlook many of his peccadilloes and extracurricular activities as president. Of course, everyone has private lives, including politicians. Just the same, a lot of dirt is going to come out and the opposition will sling whatever mud they ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 04:53 PM
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While I think there are plenty of disparities in class and noticeable wage and income gaps in this country, I never really saw it as a "gender" issue as such. A lot of it is also regional, since the same work may not be paid at the same rate. Much of it is also cultural and class-related. There's a lot of unfairness in this country for a variety of reasons. I wouldn't deny that sexism is a factor, along with racism, ageism, classism, and many other "isms" out there. Our culture tends to look dow…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 03:50 PM
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So why don't Proletarians of all countries unite and smash the patriarchy? Interestingly, I encounter very few feminists whom I would consider to be "proletarian." Most of them are extremely bourgeois, and more than a few come from wealthy, privileged backgrounds and have never had to do a hard day's work in their lives. There are a few Marxist feminists here and there, but they don't appear to have much influence among the mainstream feminists who fell into Hillary's camp. This is the main reas…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 04:00 PM
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It takes a majority of people to successfully start a revolution. Just the opposite, actually. The Bolshevik party was actually very small in 1917 when they seized power. A small cadre of committed stalwarts and revolutionary fanatics can accomplish great things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 03:14 PM
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Good summary, and I might also add that the women's vote in Germany was what put Hitler over the top and into power.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 03:10 PM
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I think women are capable of understanding men, but many (if not most) of them just don't really want to. Many women seem to believe that it's the man's job to understand them, and that women don't really need to put any effort into understanding men. Some women might put effort into understanding an individual man who might be their Significant Other, but they don't really understand men in general - nor do they particularly care. I've encountered women who are angry about something men have do…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 03:05 PM
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Or the whole "women deserve to finally have it all just like men have always had." Men never had it all, but they don't want to ask men what it was like for them. They want to lecture. This is definitely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 02:49 PM
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Wow, just after someone else got called out for starting a thread with a leading question, now a blue piller is doing it. I guess the mods may have to change this to a "CMV" as well. Oh well. One of the joys of PPD is the level of sarcasm one sees. So, why not play along? To answer your question, yes, the vast majority of the male population is being cucked by the relatively small percentage of "Chads" out there. I think you'll agree that there is a definite need for universal mandatory paternit…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 02:56 AM
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To CYV a bit, I don't think that promiscuity, in and of itself, would constitute irresponsible behavior. I don't think women actually "use feminism as an excuse," as I'm not even sure that means. Where feminism comes into play is that feminists tend to argue that "it shouldn't matter" to a man whether or not his prospective partner is promiscuous. Her past is her past, it's her business, and "it shouldn't matter" - that's the usual refrain. A man who does not agree with that is somehow branded a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 02:24 AM
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Anyways, here the debate question is, do women, on average, accurately state what their sexual preferences are in men, relative to whom they end up dating sleeping with? Why or why not? Sometimes, it does seem rather contradictory, but the idea that women are not totally honest about their preferences and seem to have some kind of "double speak" about it all has been a thing identified in popular culture. I recall a car commercial where it shows this woman waiting for her blind date, talking on …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/17 12:26 AM
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I would say that the main difference between RP and BP is that RP wants to understand how things are in reality, whereas BP sees things only in terms of how things "should be." Also, RP is generally apolitical, focusing more on individual improvement, whereas BP is totally political. BPers are the mavens of Political Correctness, and that's what drives their entire position.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 11:37 PM
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So my question is: why is an egalitarian relationship so undesirable? You decide to live forever with a person, so why seek after a partner that's "below" you? I don't know that an egalitarian relationship is undesirable, but some might point out that, with all the talk there is about "equality," it doesn't appear to be practiced all that consistently. In terms of dating and romance, there appears to be a somewhat chaotic mixture of the "modern" versus those who still cling to some vestiges of "…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 02:59 PM
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is vegan There's always got to be one deal breaker in the mix.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 02:07 PM
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You may have a point, but he was on the elite Nova Squadron at Star Fleet Academy, which is like being an all-star on the football team. But then he loused that up, so I guess you're right. Wesley Crusher must die. ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVYCbRjhnsE
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 06:58 PM
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Well, in Star Trek, people are evaluated mostly on their intelligence and knowledge of science, so it might be a geeks' paradise. Wesley Crusher - big man on campus. Overall, men would be judged by who they are (intelligent and/or physically attractive), not by what they own or how much money they make. Some of it might depend on how much interaction there is with other alien races. An awkward autistic human male who has bad luck with human women might find better results with a Vulcan woman, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 02:56 PM
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Selfishness and narcissism widespread, yes. But, if you really want to beat The Red Pill, find women who are less selfish and narcissistic. It's easier in blue states/cities, that is my experience. I'm not sure of that. Blue states/cities are places like Los Angeles and New York - the capitals of selfishness, narcissism, greed, and materialism. The women in those places are just like the men - selfish, narcissistic and hyper-materialists. Oddly enough, these same people ostensibly embrace femini…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 02:25 PM
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According to TRP society as a whole is BPed and most men have been damaged by Disney movies. But society as a whole thinks that men in general aren't BPed. Interestingly, what I've noticed is that BPers often suggest that they are the mainstream "normal" view (to use the term you used in another thread), while painting the RPers as misfits, outcasts, losers, etc. - the opposite of what "normal men" are. One area where BPers seem to line up with the typical view is that, not unlike the average vo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 02:14 PM
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Red Pill Evolutionary "Theory" is Very Bad For Raising Humans I don't know that I would call it "very bad." In many ways, it may be appropriate for society nowadays, as we've been moving more towards libertarianism and laissez-faire capitalism since the Reagan years (which coincides with the rise of third-wave feminism). Red Pill is as much an acknowledgement that we live in a dog-eat-dog world and that a man has to look out for number one in order to survive. It may not be the most charitable o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 01:55 PM
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I saw an earlier comment about 1950s gender roles, and then seeing this, I was wondering if we could ever go back to using 1950s era appliances and technology when it comes to housekeeping. A lot of time-saving devices nowadays make the job a lot easier. I don't even think women complain about doing the housecleaning all that much, although if they do, it's usually about what slobs their husbands and kids are. I can see where there might be good reason to complain if someone makes a big mess and…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 03:43 AM
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My question to you guys: should Silas feel less of a man because he doesn't constantly pursue women like Ryan does? Ryan still loves Silas (as best friends) regardless of this matter, but Silas feels like Ryan respects him less because he doesn't constantly pursue pussy like Ryan does. I don't think he should feel "less of a man," whatever that's supposed to mean. There's more to being a man than keeping score of notches on one's bedpost. He seems like he has a bright future ahead of him, so why…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/17 01:34 AM
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i think it's better than telling women they need to make their accounts private, block guys, don't respond, say nothing, never complain, you know what don't even get social media (as some in this thread are suggesting; it's not just something that fiji brought up, others are being way more extreme about it). I'm not saying that people shouldn't complain, and there are channels one can go through to deal with stalkers and other such problem individuals. My only point is that those who engage in s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 02:57 PM
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What, if any, redeeming qualities do women have? Some have redeeming qualities, while some may not (or they may not be readily apparent). As to what those redeeming qualities might be, I would say it varies from individual to individual, just as it would for men (many of whom may have no redeeming qualities either).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 02:46 PM
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Something else came to mind while reading this thread, although somewhat off-topic. I was reading in another forum which related an account from a school counselor who noticed a rising number of (mostly female) students who suffer from acute anxiety and panic attacks if they forget or lose their cellphone. I mean, total panic - like end of the world, the sirens are blaring and the missiles are on their way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 02:36 PM
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nah, men can just stop being creeps and move on instead. at the very least, stop crying if you're recognized as being a creep and treated like one. Do you really think that's realistic? Do you think that the percentage of men who are creeps would just suddenly see the light and say "Gee, you're right, I'll stop being a creep and hereby vow to forever do good works for humanity from here on out"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 02:29 PM
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I don't think men talk about being the disposable gender that much. Maybe in these forums it might be a prevalent topic, but not much with men in general. To me, the huge problems in our society are a lack of affordable housing, stagnant wages, the shrinking middle class, corruption at the highest levels of government, organized crime, war and the possibility of its escalation - not to mention the basics of hunger, deficiencies in healthcare, education. I'm not trying to minimize anything, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 02:21 PM
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I just don't see the two as being analogous to each other. If we're talking about a class of people who are down and out and need to resort to doing something they don't want to do (or society considers "shameful" or even illegal), then men might typically go into selling drugs or other criminal activity. Or, as the OP indicated, if they're good fighters (like in the MMA), then they could earn money as a hired thug. Other than those who are forced against their will (in which case they'd be vict…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 02:05 PM
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Why would someone post a picture of headphones anyway? Why would anyone care? Why would someone think it's a slutty picture? I don't know if women enjoy attention from creepers or not, but they seem to enjoy talking about it - a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 01:00 PM
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The thread title is hilarious. But some of the topics and discussions here are kind of interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 12:43 PM
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Well, a lot of it is a matter of tone and form. But some people just have to vent once in a while, it doesn't necessarily mean much. Sure, they could tone it down somewhat, but in a lot of ways, I think they do have a righteous grievance to some extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 12:33 PM
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Those who are forced into it are a different matter. They're being kidnapped and held against their will. But if they had the opportunity to walk away, but didn't, then that's on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 12:18 PM
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Some fighting matches are illegal, too. Some are staged. (A lot of porn is illegal, for that matter.) You asked how many pay per view shows they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 12:18 PM
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Interestingly (but not surprisingly), this article focuses entirely on what it defines as "anti-feminism," yet doesn't look at feminism itself and its own PR difficulties in causing so many people to turn away from it. Feminists don't listen. They're like robots, constantly regurgitating whatever bits and pieces they learned from their women's studies courses, yet never really able to have a true exchange of ideas or thoughts. They are one-dimensional and transparent, and yet they'll never get i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 12:06 PM
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There are plenty of straight men who prostitute themselves to other men because they are desperate for money or drugs. Some may even be forced against their will, it's not like you have to be gay to let people use your body. I'm not denying this, but it's not the equivalent of a heterosexual woman having sex with a man for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 11:16 AM
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Porn is not the same as prostitution. Technically not, but it comes down to the same thing, at least in the context of the argument you're making.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 11:13 AM
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The funny thing is, though, most "normal men" would probably agree with TRP if it was presented slightly different. If the same ideas were presented in the form of a 1950s era John Wayne movie, most "normal men" would think "Yep, seems pretty normal to me."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 11:11 AM
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The male equivalent is male prostitutes. Only if they're actually gay. Unless you're suggesting that all female prostitutes are lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 10:52 AM
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Besides, how many pay per view shows and stadiums of cheering fans to prostitutes get? Porn is a $97 billion industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/17 10:50 AM
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I'm not sure if all pretty girls have low self esteem, but I've noticed that with a lot of people who seem to "have it all," they're still not happy or satisfied with what they have. They still want more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 04:30 PM
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Nope. Slut-shaming is always started by men. Some women adopt it when put under social pressure. Not in my observation. More often than not (that I've seen), it's women who are the ones who are quick to point out the promiscuity of other women. There are some women who are insufferable gossips, and they will use whatever ammunition they can to impugn the reputation of other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 04:15 PM
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girls are doing the right thing by rejecting self-proclaimed "nice guys" Maybe, although what has always struck me about this whole thing about "nice guys" is that women ostensibly imply that they have a sixth sense and can just tell about guys right off the bat (based on "red flags" or other externalities). That's what I find difficult to believe. There are some women who even seem to pride themselves on their "intuition" and ability to tell what guys are thinking and what their intentions migh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 03:58 PM
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You could be right. I don't think all men are like this, but there are quite a few who seem to try to pick up on women as a matter of course. They often encourage other men to do the same. Some may be thirsty, and some may just be responding to conditioning and what they've been taught. It's probably just one of the drawbacks of the culture. If all men decided to just go on strike for a while - total monk mode while keeping their thoughts pure - then things would change quite a bit. But men are …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 03:06 AM
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Well, it's kind of hard to avoid feminist propaganda anyway. It's all over the place, so it's not like anyone has to go seek it out. Men listen to it because they've been stuck with it most of their lives. After a while, one can learn to ignore it and tune it out, just like so much white noise in the background.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:37 AM
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I think you might be reading too much into these situations. A man may be angry at being rejected, but it's a bit of leap to presume to read his mind and proclaim that he feels "entitled." You can't read their minds, so you don't really know what they're thinking. You're just assuming, and that's where you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/17 02:13 AM
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Well, looking at the overall geopolitical situation and what might happen in the future, humanity may have greater problems in the short term to worry about. I think there may be more of a world-wide problem in that machines continue to do the work of humans, yet humans keep reproducing and increasing the overall population. Even most of the jobs held by women would also be replaceable by AI technology. If they can make sex robots life like, why not secretaries and other such administrative jobs…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 09:06 PM
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If women being attracted to bad boys is such a hidden secret why is it talked about so often? It's not a hidden secret at all. It's the elephant in the living room which some people try to pretend isn't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 05:28 AM
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Then you should never have a word to say about "tumblristas", SJW's, or Feminists of any stripe. While I reserve the right to say whatever I want about anything, I will say that I don't spend a great deal of time talking about "tumblristas," SJWs, or feminists. In fact, I've never even used the word "tumblrista" before this post. I actually see most SJWs and feminists as pawns and parrots, just like a lot of ideologues and political hacks (including many on the conservative side of the spectrum,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 04:36 AM
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TRP is about more than just that. TRP brings up things like feminism, women being this, women being that. People don't like that. I think a lot of this is more a matter of how they say things rather than what they're actually saying. Most of what RP says can be expressed in a different, more PC way, and come across as acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 04:21 AM
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Because we believe it's wrong. So then, it is a crusade. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I just don't understand why so many BPers try to deny it or downplay by saying that they're here just for yucks. If you take the issue seriously and wish to discuss it seriously, then by all means, do so. But there's too much posturing here. Frankly, I don't see what the big deal is. So what if a few guys (whom are already viewed as "losers" from a BP point of view) on the internet say stuff about…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 02:29 AM
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Then why do y'all act like it's the end of the world that we like bad boys? It's not, just as long as you're honest about it. It's when women go into long dramatic explanations which are totally self-serving, false, and meaningless - that's what the problem is. That's what I find so fascinating about PPD and the entire blue pill/anti red pill position. They're the ones acting like it's the end of the world that there are people posting on the internet that women like bad boys. They're the ones w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:30 AM
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Because then we'd have to deal with the butthurt from all the sore losers. Isn't that pretty much what "we" are dealing with already? And then unattractive men will get pissy and violent in mass. That's happening, too. You're saying that dishonesty is justified due to fear of violence, but what does that say about those who stomp their little feet and go out of their way (even to the point of creating multiple subreddits) to taunt these supposedly "unattractive men" - just because they'll do any…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:13 AM
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I don't know where they get these delusions XD Usually from women who say or imply things like that. But this thread is proof positive that you can't trust or take seriously anything a woman says. XD
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:00 AM
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No, we oppose sexism and misogyny. What for?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 11:47 PM
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Looking at it from a legal standpoint, nobody should hit anybody, period. It's against the law to hit people, except in self-defense. The idea that "men should not hit women" comes from an older, more traditional time, but it also implies that there are times when men can (or should) hit other men. Like if a man insults another man, it's a point of honor that there should be some sort of violent response.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 12:36 PM
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Again, I'd much rather figure out why RP is more obsessed with this book than any woman I've ever met For the same reason lefties often become obsessed with televangelists who get caught with prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 11:59 AM
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We are here because of the sexism and misogyny You make it sound like some kind of noble crusade. "Sexism and Misogyny, Oh My!" You think you hold the moral high ground? Is that it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 11:46 AM
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On the other hand, men who do not have these personality traits do not recognize this view of reality as it doesn't line up with how they perceive the world. Agree? Disagree? Discuss. I think that we're all products of how we're raised and what kind of socialization and conditioning we were brought up with. Their view of "reality" is whatever they see and experience, as well as whatever is told to them from other people's experiences. I suppose that would also be instrumental in formulating one'…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 07:53 PM
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Do show proof that TRPers talk positively about women. I think there are any number of threads on TRP which men discuss their desire to have sex with women. That's speaking positively. I think you can find the proof rather easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 07:10 PM
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Now, you're saying that some women, but not all, will do this and thats what RP really teaches. and I have to ask... what's so "red pill" about that? It shouldn't be just "red pill," but the thing is, women don't like to be criticized. Any time a woman is criticized, other women band together to defend "team woman" no matter what. This forum, along with TBP, are perfect examples of this process in action. Now, if women could accept even the slightest criticisms without screaming like a bunch of …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 07:04 PM
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So yes, some who believe extreme things about life are delusional in my opinion. As I mentioned elsewhere, I think it's a fair point to say that some RPers might exaggerate some things, but "delusional" might be taking it a bit too far. After all, they're not talking about space aliens or something that's "not of this world." For some people who call themselves red pill, there is a distinct lack of skepticism with things that come out of that side of the argument. Which is a problem. You should …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 02:50 PM
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Is this actually your view, or is it just another trolling caricature? Anyway, when you say that something is "unfair," to whom is it "unfair"? Besides, I don't think anyone is proposing that anything be taken away from top tier men, so you're arguing against something that isn't even on the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 02:14 PM
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I don't want to jump to the conclusion that the world these people occupy is the world of the socially incompetent, but what other conclusion would you expect me to draw? I think the more obvious answer is that you're reading about experiences of people who live in different countries or regions where the culture might be slightly different. As a result, different patterns of behavior can be observed, depending on one's own personal experience. The ability to empathize with others and be able to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 01:41 PM
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AWALT, last minute resistance, women are teenagers/children/whatever, all women will cheat with Chad, only the top 20% of guys have satisfying sex lives, all women are inclined to slut it up when they're young... that's the stuff that takes either willful delusion or a very sheltered and limited frame of reference to buy into. I don't think these things would qualify as "delusional." I think it's a fair point that RPers might exaggerate certain observed phenomena, suggesting "all" are like that …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 01:02 PM
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correct, if it wasn't for bullies with badges, things would be very different I don't really worry so much about them. It's the political powers who set policy which are the problem. Cops just follow orders. The ones giving the orders are another matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:27 PM
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I think you should try to get women to empathize with your problems. What problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:16 PM
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Just look at all that personal responsibility! It would be nice if people actually took responsibility. There's so little of that nowadays. Anyway, my point stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:16 PM
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He's SAYING that all the other lefty "rights" movements engaged in actions to promote and win their causes, against odds and police. Their causes were already "won" long before they engaged in any "actions." They already had overwhelming support of the media and the liberal elite long before they actually did anything. They were just jumping on a bandwagon which already existed. That's not what I would consider "action" as much as just being a sheep and a follower. MRA and the rest of the manosp…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:14 PM
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You're rocking the suburbs, just like Michael Jackson did, you're rocking the suburbs, only he was talented. If you think Michael Jackson was talented, then you've already discredited yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 08:41 PM
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Protests and rallys are action. Complaining on the Internet is not. No, it's basically the same - all are forms of communication without any overt or direct action.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 08:39 PM
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It's considered whiney because it transgressed male gender norms of being self-sufficient and not needing affirmative action to get things done. That may be so, but historically, men usually solve their differences in one of two ways: Compromise or violence. Compromise usually requires a certain give-and-take, which is not possible if one side is utterly scornful and derisive towards the other. That's usually when it turns to violence, which is how a lot of problems are solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 01:07 PM
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Violent action, peaceful action, protest, rally just do something. Protest and rally are just different forms of "whining." What difference does it make if people are whining in the streets or over the internet? It's still whining just the same, isn't it? "Peaceful action" might be some sort of passive resistance, which wouldn't necessarily be readily noticed or even understood. I'm not advocating violence, but if there ever is violence, it would be because of recklessly intransigent provocateur…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 12:59 PM
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When did whining ever get anything solved? So, you prefer violent action over discussion and negotiation?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 12:49 PM
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I'm not sure that it's a matter of the men who were "left behind" by feminism. The trouble may be that men themselves have become weaker, and this makes the feminist-dominated West look weak. This is why other countries are emboldened to strike against us. This is why other countries are surpassing us in education, technology, healthcare, industry, etc. The family unit has diminished, as weak and/or absent fathers make for delinquent and wayward sons. This is where I believe feminism has failed,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 12:05 PM
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Do I wonder why Donald Trump got elected? If you don't wonder about such things, perhaps you should start.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 11:42 AM
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My point was that most of the legal rights associated with feminism were already achieved by the time the "second wave" came into play, which was also associated with other progressive movements during the same era (such as the civil rights and anti-war movements). Second Wave (aka, "women's lib") revolved around getting women out of the house and breaking into the workplace. A direct reaction to women joining the workplace during WWII, then being forced back into the kitchen (in many cases, unh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 04:11 AM
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It depends on what you define as "feminism." I would say that whatever is regarded as "feminism" today started off as "women's lib" back in the 1960s, at which time most of the legal rights you refer to (i.e. voting, right to serve on juries, hold a job, own property, get divorced, etc.) already existed. So, one would have to answer your question by examining whether America is better off today than it was in 1960. I would discard most of your arguments, since you're not even addressing the over…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 12:34 AM
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Men are weird. You finally figured that out, did you? Took you long enough. ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 11:49 PM
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Now you are talking about the TRP and TBP subreddits here. That's not what I mean. I mean the sexual strategies. BP (in this context) is the Disney fantasy that you just have to be nice, give her presents and she will fall for you one day. Looks don't matter and everyone is perfect exactly the way they are. That last sentence conforms quite nicely to the rules and precepts of political correctness, and this does relate to what a lot of people are taught and conditioned to believe. RP is that you…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 02:58 PM
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The 'subtle' signals and lack of 'frank' communication many women give is the reason so many men misinterpret friendly behaviour as sexual/romantic interest. This may be true, although there are times when women are not so subtle. I remember reading in another forum where a guy was recounting a time when he was in a quiet little tavern and saw a rather attractive young lady, who was tightly packed into a t-shirt which read "Horny and Available." Of course, she had guys hitting on her left and ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 02:17 PM
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If what you say is true, then why would there be any "blue pillers" at all? What I find interesting about this debate is that much of it seems to revolve around what is "social" or "biological," while trying to avoid anything overtly political. The only real difference between BP and RP is that one deliberately chooses to conform to the rules of political correctness, while the other wantonly flouts those rules. And that's what gets the bloopers up in arms - "How DARE they refuse to conform to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 01:48 PM
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Some of these online dating sites do seem rather toxic, based on some of the reactions I've observed. It might be partly due to an imbalance in that there are typically more men than women on those sites to begin with. Although, religious dating sites tend to have more women than men. I've browsed some dating sites here and there, and I often find that the women's profiles tend to look similar, as if they're all copying each other's profiles. The same catch phrases keep appearing. Many of them c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 01:00 PM
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What are you even arguing against? Can you show me where anyone ever stated here that what's on the inside is all that counts in all cases? I think this is similar to what we were discussing the other day. TRP does have some merit, yet blue pillers attack RP daily and insinuate that TRP is totally false. The trouble here is that blue pillers tend to talk out of both sides of their mouths, which explains the OP's perceptions (or misperceptions, if that's how you see it).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 11:55 AM
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking. "Serious question"? How serious can it get?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 06:55 PM
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I suppose there are some who feel that feminism is not really relevant, since all or most of the goals of feminism have already been achieved. If there's no real need for it anymore, I can see where some might not want to take an interest in it. Indeed, sometimes what feminists seem to come up with lately appear more like they're grasping at straws to come up with new and inventive ways of justifying their continued existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 05:16 PM
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There are commonalities between the two statements which can be discerned. Blue pillers seem to take issue more with how they say it rather than what they're actually saying. But the basic idea still seems to have merit. Granted, they could find nicer ways of expressing themselves, but that's just a matter of form. The content is still valid and appears to coincide with the mainstream media in the examples you've outlined. It's funny you brought this up, since I was thinking earlier today that J…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 05:07 PM
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Well, that's why some sort of coherent definition is in order here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 04:58 PM
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CMV: Mainstream media is RP You may be right, but if this is true, what does this say about the BP perception that RP is fringe and extremist? Does this mean you believe the mainstream media are fringe and extremist, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 04:46 PM
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How do you define "anti-feminist" in this context? Unless they're a traditional Muslim woman or some kind of Stepford Wife, I don't think a single "anti-feminist" woman exists in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 04:36 PM
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Men, in aggregate, are inferior to women. I suppose a case might be made for this, although I don't think the arguments you're using really support this point. I suppose it would largely depend on how you define "inferior," which you haven't done. All too often we hear feminists decry the evil "patriarchy" and how it's subjugated women and so forth. But if men are/were "inferior," how could they subjugate their "superiors"? That doesn't make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 03:24 PM
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Al Gore is a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 03:18 PM
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this is something I've gleaned from red pill. The dread game seems to be an emotional abusive tactic employed by an average/ugly man in order to keep his hot partner interested in him. They will even lie and delude themselves into pretending random women are interested in them to make their partner jealous. Red pill claims to hate "hypergamy" but what they really hate is when hot women actually date or marry in their league, rather than below it. I wouldn't deny that this can be interpreted as m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 03:12 PM
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there is nothing shallow about genetics. mating is about breeding, breedign is about genetics, genetic fitness increases survival. Perhaps, although there's no scientific way of discerning this information just by looking at someone. You'd have to conduct a battery of tests, including intelligence and aptitudes tests. You can't tell how intelligent someone is just by their external appearance, and in this day and age, the only sensible approach is for women to choose solely by IQ. But the fact t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 12:51 PM
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Its really the older generation men, ie mostly baby boomer men, that are. This is just not true. Feminism flourished precisely because of widespread acceptance by Boomer males. It probably would have gone on just fine if not for Gen-X women and other feminists moving the goalposts in the late 80s/early 90s, the start of the so-called "third wave" of feminism. That's what so many people seem to miss. Feminism itself changed during that period, and that's when the seeds of the current backlash wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 12:40 PM
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It's like saying all people could be murderers. And there are a LOT of murderers. Doesn't it come down to a pessimistic view of reality vs. optimistic? I think it could be said that, under the right circumstances, any person can be driven to murder. Entire nations of people have been turned into raging mobs of fanatics, so it's definitely possible. Human beings are infinitely malleable, as Orwell put it. This is what bothers me so much about TRP. They make statements that are half true, but they…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 07:36 PM
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I think it can be said that women are physically attracted to men, although I think men probably have a greater physical attraction to women. Apart from the overwhelming male interest in porn, men also buy magazines like Playboy by the millions (compared to the paltry sales of its female equivalent, Playgirl). Men like looking at cheerleaders, beauty contests, the swimsuit issue of Sports Illustrated, etc., etc. It's just what men do. True, there have been male beauty contests, male dancers, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 07:03 PM
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I agree. The fact that the moderators let this guy troll this board with impunity is very telling about their bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 01:02 PM
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Many do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 11:55 AM
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TRP is pretty negative about feminism to say the least, but doesn't it take some of the burden off men to be "providers"? Yeah, that's what they said back in the 60s and 70s. But it was just a bait-and-switch. Just a lot of empty talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 11:36 PM
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My understanding is that "Chad" is the kind of guy who is so attractive to women, that women will throw out whatever "rule book" they go by to pursue him. He doesn't have to wine and dine a woman, he doesn't have to bring her any gifts, he doesn't have to follow any "rules" or "protocols," he doesn't have to "bring anything to the table" (a phrase very often used by women in the dating arena), nor does he even have to have a real job or visible means of support. A woman will give financial suppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 11:09 AM
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First, let's talk about the thing the redpill is worried about. I sometimes wonder about who's worried about what. I never could understand why there would be any kind of "debate" over who's attractive or who's not attractive. People have different tastes and things that they look for. It all just proves the common sayings about love: Nice guys finish last, but a good man is hard to find. One might also say that a good woman is hard to find. Good people in general are hard to find. Not that they…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 02:42 PM
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"Toxic masculinity" is an unfortunate term for a real and important concept. I never thought it was a very good term either. But it depends on what form of "masculinity" you're talking about. At least based on literature and social mores of the past, "masculinity" was viewed far differently in previous eras than now, particularly when American culture was more homogeneous than it would later become. While the ideal male figure of the past might have been a cowboy, or a settler, or a pioneer, it …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 02:11 PM
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Why would women be so concerned about what other people think, anyway? They certainly didn't care what others thought of them when they went out into the career world and the workplace, but on this issue, they care what other people think? I don't believe that for a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:21 PM
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I do believe I'm correct and that's what I'm talking about here. You seem to have some different opinion, so whatevs. Well, regardless, you're drifting off-topic. I don't believe the OP was addressing anything about whether u/ThrowawayCactus6012 is a conservative or a liberal, so I don't know why you think it's relevant to bring it up here. Perhaps you'd care to explain your line of reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:30 AM
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Nah. Untrue. You go to college to learn, but you don't expect to be studying forever. You expect to leave and put what you learned into practice. You haven't altered any principles. I don't think we're talking about the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:27 AM
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They would think that she's an assertive woman who knows what she wants and isn't afraid to go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:27 AM
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Well monogamy should be an agreement. I don't see a ton of people having such a hard time with this. That's because most people, by and large, still view marriage on more of a quasi-religious level, and that's where the idea comes from. And that's fine, if that's what they believe. But for those who are not religious, I don't get it. It's like an atheist who goes to church and observes religious holidays. Sure, I suppose people can do it, but it's so absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 09:07 PM
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Liberals and progressives are very down for change, they are comfortable with it. Conservatives want things to stay the same. Forever. I don't believe you're correct here, but to address in depth would go off topic. I don't think it's relevant to the discussion anyway, whether or not you think I'm conservative or liberal. Please, just deal with the arguments as they stand and stop trying to label or pigeonhole people. Go back and read what you wrote, it is very conservative in that regard. I alr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 08:47 PM
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What? No one thinks that sex is a "fun and recreational" activity on the same level of pool, particularly in the confines of a monogamous relationship. Literally all the sex I have with my husband is "fun an recreational" as we are not trying to have kids right now. That doesn't mean I'm ok with him (or myself) seeking it outside of marriage. Just because something is "fun and recreational" between two people doesn't automatically make it trivial or on the same exact level of doing it with someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 08:40 PM
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You can be religious or not, but what you just described is an extremely conservative outlook, and is held by nearly all fundamentalist religions as well. No, not necessarily. There are liberals and those who are not religious at all who commonly call out religionists for failing to live up to their beliefs. And I say this as someone who grew up surrounded by liberals. What I stated was not a "liberal vs. conservative" view, since both sides will call the other out for hypocrisy if they see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 08:14 PM
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The problem here is that many guys think that they can know that she's not like that just because she has a higher than average n-count. Well, I can't help what other guys think. I don't think it's relevant to this discussion. One can have two positions at once. Sure, but some might view it as duplicitous and/or hypocritical. Sex while single can be just for fun but at the same time in a relationship it can be something that is considered special. And even when it comes to casual sex some are FW…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 08:05 PM
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I'm confused by this. Are you saying that if they have the view it's fun and recreational than once they get married they should be a-ok with sex outside of the marriage? Or are you saying if they start viewing it as like a marital duty or only for procreation once they get married they are violating/altering their principles. I would agree with the latter but not the former. I'm merely saying that people should stick to their stated principles. If they view sex as a fun and recreational activit…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 07:32 PM
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Sounds like you are looking for a traditional, church going woman. So go get one. Don't expect everyone to be like this and you'll be just fine. Obviously, you didn't read what I wrote, or you failed to grasp it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 07:10 PM
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I would not ask women to be sexually pure. All I've ever asked (which would be the same I would ask of a man) is that they be honorable, ethical, and consistent - and that they should practice what they preach. If they have a set of principles they claim to live by, then they should live by them consistently - or else be honest enough to admit it. For example, if one believes that sex is merely a fun, recreational activity, then they should be consistent in that viewpoint. If they get married an…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 01:33 PM
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What is the purpose of pursuing someone who has put you in the friend zone? Probably because they believe that, with enough persistence, you might change your mind. That's what a lot of guys are taught and conditioned to believe. Persistence pays off. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Never take "no" for an answer. This is how a lot of people think, and it doesn't just apply to the dating world either. It really should be no mystery as to why guys keep pursuing even if they're in the "friendzon…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 01:14 PM
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So, there is no actual law, then, where women "have to wait to be approached." Otherwise you're a "fast" woman, aka a slut. I disagree. A woman who approaches a man is not a "slut." A "slut" is invariably a woman who lets men approach them and allows them to be talked (aka "manipulated") into casual sex, even if they had no such intention previously. Being a "slut" is an extremely passive activity, indicating someone who is very weak-willed and spineless. That's why many men refer to such women …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 12:40 PM
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Why not let women lead the dating arena? I agree with the answers many others have pointed out, women won't lead the dating arena because they don't want to. They don't have to, and why should they? It is interesting to read these responses in the context of many other debates in PPD and elsewhere regarding gender issues. I often read that "women don't initiate" and "women don't want to take the lead," but yet, just a few weeks ago there was a woman aspiring to become the leader of the entire fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 03:49 PM
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Because women have to wait to be approached They have to? Is that some sort of law or Biblical commandment?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 03:12 PM
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I have no idea what your reply has to do with mine. Oh well. It's just in the overall context of the topic and the overall debate in this forum. Yours was the most recent reply and you were saying much the same thing as many others, so I picked yours to reply to. Sorry if that inconveniences you. Lets not pretend like women suddenly cut off all their hair, threw away their lipsticks and traded stylish clothing for burlap sacks. And not all or even most forewent makeup and dresses or opted to alt…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 03:09 PM
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Because our value is far more closely tied to our looks and beauty than men. That may be so, although this sounds like one of those "red pill truths" that blue pillers commonly reject. Moreover, feminists and other women have been reacting against this phenomenon for decades, that they don't want to be viewed as "just another pretty face" or considered "sex objects." They vehemently complain about men who think "women are only good for sex." Even back in the 70s, women started wearing pants and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 02:45 PM
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This is yet another post where I am trying to find out why there is so much disagreement here at PPD. I've observed that the main source of disagreement here is that the two sides come from completely different mindsets. Many here come from different countries and different cultures, so there's obviously going to be some disconnect and lack of understanding regarding how others might see the world around them. If someone comes from the UK or NYC, then their idea of "average" would be far differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/16 01:28 PM
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When do you think this happened? My grandmother has recounted stories of being told basically exactly that same thing when she was a child in the 1920's. That may be so. It's still part of the same culture. If we were "reduced" to this, it happened a long time ago, and somehow the ideas of love and romance have survived this long. Have they? I think there's a lot more jaded cynicism than there used to be. That doesn't mean that love and romance have disappeared altogether, but there seems be the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 08:38 PM
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Why does seemingly nobody think of romantic reasons as an answer to "why do many men have problems with a high n-count / her sexual past" and instead think of insecurity, jealousy and whatnot first and exclusively? I think a lot of it has to do with the culture itself, which is somewhat oversexed and permissive to the point where "romance" and "love" have taken on completely different meanings in people's eyes. Men are pretty much reduced to the lowest common denominator where women believe that…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 12:49 PM
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Why do so many men, especially the younger ones, seem to prefer meek, submissive women? I'm not so sure that there are all that many men who want women to be like that. I think most men would be fine with the so-called "strong and independent" woman, but that's not always something one can count on, since it's not a condition which is all that stable or consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 12:34 PM
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The text is that question, isn't it a completely logically fallacious idea of that's it's punching up at white males in humor while punching down would be a white male making a joke about any other group? It could be that. I would say that it's more a matter of hypocrisy, if one believes that it's wrong to attack entire groups of people based on immutable conditions of birth. It's on this point that the entire civil rights movement started going awry. There were those who simply wanted justice, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 11:07 AM
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What makes a women a slut? I don't think it's strictly a matter of n-count. There are some promiscuous women who seem to own themselves and take responsibility for their actions/decisions, so I wouldn't consider them to be sluts. But they seem to be few and far between, yet they seem to be the ones whom most women have in mind when they think of "sluts." They think of "sluts" as being forward, the kind of women who approach men. But I would say it's mostly the passive women who fall into the "sl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 10:30 AM
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Personally, I don't see how this proves anything that TRP says. This may be true, although one should note that TRP are not the only ones saying that there's something wrong with the dating market or society in general. Even Blue Pillers seem to agree with most of what TRP says; they are more upset with how they say it, not actually what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/16 10:15 AM
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Well, as I said, every situation is different. I can't walk in someone else's shoes, so if someone feels a situation is so intolerable that they have no other choice but to bail, then so be it. In cases of abuse or neglect, then there is no other choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 09:04 PM
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Among all this talk of "society makes men/women do this and that", what I find lacking is the aspect of personal responsibility. I disagree. If a person has insecurities, it's true that it's up to the individual to deal with it, but in order to do that, one has to analyze the situation and try to discern what, exactly, is the source of these insecurities. It's not shirking personal responsibility, but if there are external sources of the social pressure you refer to, then it's a good idea to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 07:22 PM
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First of all there's correlation and causation. Yeah, I know, but that doesn't mean we should ignore these stats entirely. We may not know the exact reasons in every single circumstances, but we're looking at the averages here. I mean FfS you have a stat that children of single moms get beaten/murdered more frequently? How on earth is that caused by single parenthood ALONE and not other circumstances? I've heard of plenty of cases where children are abused/beaten (or even murdered) by live-in bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 05:47 PM
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TRPs fear of marriage isn't rational This would only be true if you could prove that marriage itself is rational. It seems marriage is more rooted in sentimental attachment to a bygone era - an era which most people nowadays (especially feminists) staunchly reject and wish to see gone forever. And yet, it's mostly the women who gush over the whole marriage ceremony, all the rituals and trappings which go with it. That doesn't seem very rational either. (Some would argue that religious beliefs ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 01:03 PM
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I was raised in what you call a "broken family" (though frankly I find that term a bit offensive). I had a very happy childhood, far better than if my parents weren't separated. I don't believe in staying together "for the sake of the kids". I'll never agree with that, and the statistics don't agree with you either: Studies in the early 1980’s showed that children in repeat divorces earned lower grades and their peers rated them as less pleasant to be around. Teenagers in single-parent families …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 12:15 PM
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I don't know if it's the corporations doing that. If history is anything to go by, the powers that be have wanted a population of compliant workers and obedient soldiers willing to devote their lives to whatever church or state rules over them. That may be why there's so many "beta" males out there. In this regard, men have not really changed all that much over the centuries. However, I suppose anything is possible. All my life I've heard people speak of communist plots and other conspiracies de…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/16 03:21 PM
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Would you date someone who was upfront about being non-exclusive with you? I wouldn't have a problem with dating them, although I don't see why an "open relationship" is even called a "relationship." People can do whatever they want, but my opinion is that the phrase "open relationship" is a misnomer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/16 01:24 PM
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What did these girls do in the past when men were in control? Well, back in those days, most of the population was rural, so they probably lived and worked on family farms and married someone within their area. Their social activity was probably centered around their local church. They likely attended community picnics, county fairs, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 08:31 PM
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Setting up a satire forum is not interfering though I didn't say they were the same thing, just that I wouldn't do either. There just wouldn't be any point to it, if it was a subject I wasn't interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 05:37 PM
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Yes, this would make sense. Even liberals and progressives don't automatically all march in lockstep behind the same set of ideals. Those are rather big tents with a lot of internal disagreement on the inside. I think there are a lot of traditionalists who would also take issue with RP, mainly because they would come from a religious-inspired, socially conservative, "family oriented" viewpoint which doesn't mesh well with spinning plates, PUA, or the idea of eschewing marriage. They might have v…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 05:28 PM
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what is a good Bee? Killer bees, perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 04:48 PM
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Half the time I can say that about TRP and PPD as well. And I would likely agree with you if you did. Whatever people believe, there's a reason why they believe it. It doesn't concern me how people live their private lives, so if they want do the whole Captain thing, that's their business. I don't even think most blue pillers would care all that much about people's private lives, so that would suggest that their reaction to RP is more politically motivated. Otherwise, why care enough to post at …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 04:39 PM
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Another thing that strikes me about the blue pill is that one recurring line of argument they often use is in trying to paint red pillers as these whacked-out, angry, bitter, losers in life who only represent a tiny percentage of the population, as opposed to the vast majority of "normal, well-adjusted" people in the mainstream. As a result, the blue pill is set up as the "default" position for "normal" people in society. But even that would carry some ideological and political baggage, since th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 03:38 PM
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So what is the ideology of BP? Since I am incapable of thought I guess I need you to spell it out. I don't think it should be that great of a mystery. What I wonder about is why so many BPers fall all over themselves in an attempt to deny that there's clearly an ideological motivation for their position. There's no shame in admitting it. Everybody has an ideology of some sort or another, so when someone claims that they have no ideology, I find it incredibly difficult to believe. Frankly, I thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 03:13 PM
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Men want commitment from women more than women want commitment from men. I think men (once they reach a certain point in life) want commitment because they feel that that's what is expected of them. No doubt they've heard most of their lives the common axiom that "men are afraid of commitment," so that may have the effect of men wanting to prove that wrong. There's also a sense of wanting to conform to society, since "everyone else is doing it." Also, unmarried men are somewhat handicapped when …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 02:39 PM
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I think it's pretty obvious that BP has an ideology. Even if all that unites them is agreement that "RP sucks," they had to have some sort of ideological basis to reach that conclusion in the first place. Their ideas didn't just pop up out of nothing. Another thing which is a dead giveaway is from the title of the top post in that subreddit: "My compilation of posts on why TRP is sexist and bad for both men and women." What type of people from which political ideology use the term "sexist" serio…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 01:51 PM
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That's way too few information on that situation. What happened before? Why would some stranger call me a bitch? That never happens at all. That's what I was thinking. Whenever these scenarios are presented like this, they're always one-sided and likely omit a few pertinent facts which might shed some light on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 12:30 PM
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The world doesn't need to change to fit you, you need to find where you fit in the world Yes, I would agree with this in general, but one still needs to keep in mind that the world is not static. The world is changing all the time, so the presumption on the part of some who believe that there are others who want the world to change to fit them is erroneous. Where most people seem to have trouble is in understanding the concept of cause-and-effect. I wouldn't argue that there's anything wrong wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 12:23 PM
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Yeah and an upper class white woman was at a lower, less privileged level than an upper class white man. So what? Exactly right: So what? Feminism is about upper class white women being "unhaaaapy" with their lot in life, but the question is: Why should the remaining 99% of society even care? Why would lower class women get suckered in by this nonsense? They betrayed their own class and the working people of America by hitching their wagon to these elitists who care nothing about working people.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 11:10 AM
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Women DO admit to their relationship mistakes. TRP sees this as settling later on for beta bux but it's really that she matures and learns. Not really. The very fact that women go out of their way to defend many of these mistakes and label any criticism of such behavior as "misogyny" pretty much proves that they really don't admit those mistakes. They're not even convinced that they are mistakes. If women were inclined to admit these mistakes, then their reaction to the red pill would be complet…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 10:50 AM
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I think you might want to reread the definitions of patriarchy you put in your own OP and revise this. I'm not the OP of this thread. And...because American society was also racist and classist means it can't also have been patriarchal? Your basis for this belief? Because race and class superseded gender in terms of the pecking order and societal hierarchy. An upper-class white woman was at a higher, more privileged level than a lower-class white man or a black man. The most you could argue here…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 12:49 AM
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Well the idea of female intuition is obviously nonsense, and all the women I know acknowledge that they've made poor choices in men at different points in their life. And if they would be more forthcoming in admitting that, then a lot of these discussions would be unnecessary. But instead of simply conceding the point, the women here in this forum and elsewhere will fight tooth and nail to defend it. That's what I'm wondering about. What makes you think men are any better at telling good men fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 12:31 AM
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Does the word "patriarchy" appear anywhere in the US Constitution? If not, then you don't have a case. What you choose to call it ("patriarchy") is just your own perception and opinion. That may not change the facts you've brought up (about voting, property rights, etc.), but that doesn't mean that the term "patriarchy" is the proper term to use, since the US has also had a history of race and class privilege as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 07:17 PM
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It wasn't for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 07:13 PM
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Uhhh I don't think any women here are claiming those special powers lol. They imply it. They constantly say it over and over, that they "know" which guys are "creeps" just by a few superficialities. They "know" which guys are pretending to be "nice" just to have sex. They say this constantly, and they've even created a few subreddits to confirm this supposed "intuition" they claim to have, at least by implication. Men can be just as manipulative as women if not more so. Like I said before, even …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 07:12 PM
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True, but unless upper class women were considered subordinate to all men of all classes, then no one can really claim there was such a thing as a "patriarchy," now can they? In order to prove patriarchy, you'd have to prove that the lowest ranking man was still higher than the highest ranking women. Since that never happened, patriarchy never happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 07:03 PM
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I think you're grossly exaggerating the situation, although I won't deny that there might be some level of prejudice against women. But you have a tendency to distort things beyond a reasonable level. Just like many others of your ilk, you take a single criticism of a single woman behaving badly and turn it into an attack on ALL women. That's not to say that there aren't some attacks on all women coming from RP, but the way that you exaggerate, distort, and obfuscate, it's hard to believe that y…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 01:37 PM
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Does Patriarchy still exist? I don't think "Patriarchy" ever existed. What we've mostly had is a class-based hierarchy where men and women of an elite class dominate and control men and women of the lower classes. Certain families considered themselves "noble" or "high born" or whatever they wanted to call themselves. When women talk about "patriarchy" and "glass ceilings," we're talking about women who are already in the elite class and far more privileged than 99% of the population already. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 12:54 PM
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Anyone who can say with a straight face that America was never a patriarchal society doesn't know their history. That's a bit presumptuous. The idea of America being a "patriarchal society" is more an opinion, a (mis)characterization based on modern perceptions. I doubt you'll find the phrase "patriarchal society" anywhere in the Constitution, so there we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 12:37 PM
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This article might give you some insight as to what I was referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 12:16 PM
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Do you actually think it's still only the female's fault or responsibility that a child is born even in a country where abortions are illegal? No, but I think women should take responsibility for who they choose to have sex with. Especially in a forum where women routinely claim to "know" which guys are creeps and that "nice guys" have ulterior motives, the idea that "he manipulated me and got me pregnant" simply doesn't wash.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 12:01 PM
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I would defend a single mother is because men are more manipulative than TRP is willing to acknowledge and really do convince these women that they will stick around Actually, I think it's just the opposite. In fact, men know how much other men are such evil, manipulative scumbags that they set up this whole thing called "patriarchy" to protect women from those kinds of men. It's the women who started rejecting that and felt that they didn't need any protection and that they could take care of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 08:08 PM
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I suppose, although there's always Preparation H in the event the butthurt gets too bad. I've had the occasional bout myself, and it can be quite uncomfortable and even painful at times. I don't think it gets "triggered" by anything, except maybe some of the spicy foods I eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 07:08 PM
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When there's a group of people who have made choices that usually end up less good in terms of outcomes, and some of those people manage to recover, make a decent go of it and succeed anyway, then I don't feel any need to put in place a system to tear them down to make sure they don't later on get to their feet, live a good and responsible life and succeed anyway. Doing so just feels kind of idk... fascist? I'm not advocating tearing anyone down. I don't see anyone wanting to put in place such a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 06:52 PM
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Well, I think we all have our own row to hoe, so who's to say whose row is more difficult. Still, I appreciate your sharing, and I know others with similar experiences. I, too, have had a similar experience, although my parents were divorced. I lived with my mother the first few years, then with my father. I'll spare you the sordid details, although looking back and knowing what I know now, the state agencies probably would have taken us away from our parents - if they had been reported. Even he…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 06:03 PM
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What is the TRP perspective on men who spend not time with their children or skip out on support payments for the children. I have not heard much discussion about that. Perhaps not, but I've seen quite a bit of discussion in mainstream society about this. I don't see very many RP men going out of their way to defend this behavior. If someone said that these types of "fathers" are the "scum of the Earth," I don't know too many men who would argue against that or try to defend such behavior. I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 05:41 PM
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PPD isn't a satire sub. my shitposting is, sadly, limited here. plus have you seen how butthurt redpillers get when you make fun of them? it actually makes me feel kinda bad. As with anything, it might depend on the context. Some satire or even making fun of someone can be done in a light-hearted and more innocuous manner, demonstrating that the person who is making fun is still a good-natured, good-humored individual. Then there are others who use the laughter and satire more as a false front, …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 04:51 PM
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Women like sex. "All women do this?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 12:48 PM
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To quote Clint Eastwood in Unforgiven, "Deserve's got nothin' to do with it." When I hear people talk about this subject, it's not so much a question of "deserving" a good man or a good woman, but there seems to be this widespread mystery as to where these supposedly "good" people even exist at all. "Where are all the good men?" / "Where are all the good women?" Nobody even knows where they are. Maybe that means that if you can find one, you deserve one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 07:31 PM
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How the alt-right emerged from men’s self-help I don't think the "alt-right" (which is an odd term, in and of itself) emerged from men's self-help. The "manosphere" seems mostly libertarian in their political views, while the "alt-right" seems to have some overlap, although they're likely the ideological inheritors of those who support states' rights and tend to be heavily influenced by religion and traditionalism. I would surmise that they have many points on which they would disagree. One diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 12:28 PM
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Fascism is probably one of the most misused words in the english language. Same for words like "communism" and "socialism."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 12:07 PM
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It also sounds like some kind of scam. I wonder how much these "classes" actually cost. Another useless BS artist riding the gravy train by scamming the public. P.T. Barnum was right.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 12:19 PM
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How is capitalism oppressive? I don't think "oppression" is the right word. I think it's more a matter of capitalist indifference, the idea that nobody cares about you, that you have to stand up for yourself and fight to compete in the so-called "rat race." People who can't compete are routinely tossed aside as "losers," but then everyone scratches their head and wonders why some people become so angry and bitter, even to the point where a few of them might commit mass murder or resort to terror…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 11:50 AM
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What would your ideal world look like when it comes to gender, dating, marriage, and family? This question seems dependent on what kind of world we want in general. I think that's the problem a lot of people are facing today, since many still pine nostalgic for the "old order" when it comes to marriage and family, while still enjoying all the fruits and benefits of living in the "modern world." But as a society, we can't seem to figure out which direction we want to go. The "ideal" society would…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 12:49 PM
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So do you believe Rollo or the linked article? It looks like they're both saying the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 12:07 PM
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That's not a question, that's a passive-aggressive statement, hostile to people who are not the subject at matter, made to challenge BPers in one of their classic shaming attacks. Why not just challenge the shaming attack directly? I think it's a fair question, but I sense that it's more directed at the pattern of misinformation that floats around out there. Even here in PPD, there's this constant insinuation that women instinctively know that a man is "bad" if he displays nervous mannerisms or …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 01:55 PM
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I can see what you're saying, and I've also had early sympathies for the liberal/progressive position overall. Back in the day, in the 50s and 60s, they were truly "warriors" for social justice (and I mean that sincerely, not pejoratively as "SJW" is currently used), since they were in the minority going up against the establishment. The civil rights marchers, the anti-war protesters, and many others who banded together in a common cause to "fight the good fight," as they say. This led to monume…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 01:29 PM
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I actually found it somewhat indirectly last year. One poster on the IMDb had a link in his signature to a site for Western men to find women overseas. I think it was called "Happier Abroad." Just out of curiosity, I wanted to see what it was about, so I looked at their message board and saw a wide range of opinions regarding Western women and why so many Western men were turning away from them. But there were other posters in those forums saying it was a waste of time to even go after foreign w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 12:40 PM
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What is privilege? What is oppression? Apart from the dictionary definitions of these words, in the context you're referring to, they are overused and wildly exaggerated. The only real "privilege" and "oppression" in this country is on the basis of class. Everything else is merely a smokescreen to distract people from that reality. Anyone who talks about "male privilege" or anything along those lines is attempting to play "the emperor has no clothes" gambit. To show oneself vacationing in Europe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 12:41 PM
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Some women play hard to get. Some women might be initially repulsed by a man, but then he does something truly remarkable and wins her heart - it's the plot of nearly every romantic-comedy out there. Women change their minds all the time. Sometimes it goes the other way, where they vow to love someone forever, 'til death do they part...and then they change their minds. Even if you look at the history of feminism, women change their minds as a collective group. That's why they have such a thing a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 11:12 AM
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Yes, actions are very important. So, that's the best you can do? Link to a 43-year-old lawsuit that was settled out of court? Show me a picture of Trump wearing a Klan outfit or burning a cross, then I might believe you. He's a racist to everyone except other racists. He's a racist only to those who are so paranoid as to find racist conspiracies under every bush.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 10:51 AM
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The terms sisterhood and brotherhood seems a very cult-like and guilt tripping word to me. Yeah, I guess I can see that, at least in the way it might be used in certain contexts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 12:34 AM
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Do you really think that bloops give a pass to any and every writer to writes as they represent an entire group? Don't take silence to mean the same as acceptance. Bloops are unified in their common disagreement of TRP. Naturally, while we are taking up the mantle of blue piller, that will be our focus, regardless of our views on other things. It could very well be that we just don't talk about such writers because they normally aren't relevant. Well, I was only trying to point out that if TRP l…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/16 12:26 AM
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So, yeah, there are plenty of women disturbed by what they perceive to be Trump's sexist attitude, but (in my admittedly tiny sample size) that seems to take a backseat to other fears. Regardless of anyone's fears about Trump, I will confess that my biggest fear has been war with Russia or a general escalation of current conflicts. I also think that Trump has a point regarding free trade agreements which have caused the trade deficit to skyrocket and sent countless jobs overseas. To me, these is…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 10:02 PM
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Politics have always crafted a divide between people, but this election seems particularly harsh. It doesn't surprise me that people feel like they're on a "team", and then feel betrayed when they're let down. Yes, this seems to be it. But this has been going on for quite some time. The trouble with placing oneself or one's group in an us-vs-them situation is that it makes "them" into a group which also might feel that they're all on the same side. I think the term "white knight" is men doing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 09:28 PM
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What proof do you have that he is not racist ? What proof do you need? What proof do you have that he is racist? Just stuff that he says? That's not proof. Actions are what matter, not random quotes from addle-headed journalists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 09:08 PM
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You're the one who's whining. I'm just killing time. Every thread you start (and you're quite prolific at that) is a new "whine." Since you're just trolling this forum, I should let you know that one of my favorite pastimes is "trolling the troll," so be forewarned: I'm watching you. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 05:58 PM
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So, when Trump pushes racist bullshit, and retweets posts from a user called WhiteGenocideTM, what are we supposed to think? Think whatever you like. Assume whatever you like. You do it all the time anyway, no matter what anyone says. You don't really listen or read anything, other than what you want to see. Help me understand why you can't see all the flirting he did with racists. Is it deliberate on your part or accidental? The only "deliberate" action is Trump's opponents' shameless, disingen…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 05:46 PM
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whincing That's not a word.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 05:39 PM
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Trump is a populist, and he struck a chord with those who see America as going backwards - at least in terms of our economy, industry, and infrastructure. They've seen the past few decades of their jobs going overseas bolstered by free trade agreements which have become economic suicide for this country. That's what Trump's core message is about: America First. Trump was branded as a "racist" only because of his opposition to illegal immigration and his desire to double down and seriously enforc…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 02:36 PM
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But if the slipper fits, please do wear it Cinderella. Hey, that's not too bad. You see, you are capable of coming up with something better if you really put your mind to it. That's all I was getting at. If you're supposedly here for "satire," then why not at least try to do better? The rest of the "sensitivity" was merely for your benefit, since you seemed confused by something in your OP. You seemed interested in hearing an explanation, so I thought I'd indulge you. Was that not what you were …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 02:26 PM
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To believe that the KKK has any bearing at all on anything - that's your fantasy world, not mine. Besides, how would the KKK feel about Trump's daughter marrying a Jew? Trump has Jewish grandchildren.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 02:22 PM
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And what's wrong with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 02:18 PM
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I browsed a few of the threads you mention, and I can see what you're saying. I wouldn't post there myself, since it's clear that it's one-sided and most of the posters there have some kind of axe to grind. I disagree somewhat regarding your position about being "bashed as a white male." I'm a white male, too, and I can see where there's a lot of that going on - but I don't usually feel offended by it, nor does it bother me that much. Some attempt to justify it by using the "tit for tat" argumen…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 02:18 PM
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Yes, but it's rooted in your opinion that Trump is a "racist misogynist." Since that is not true, the rest of your statement is equally untrue. Your "statistics" are worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:49 PM
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Well, the point is simple statistics: Trump is a racist misogynist That's a statistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:42 PM
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I hope nobody comes forward and claims her husband is an alpha, because he is a shy geeky Jewish guy who has admitted Ivanka is the 'CEO of the family'. Go figure. Hard to say. I read in the wikipedia article about her that her religion is Judaism (formerly Presbyterian), so she must have converted when she married. If he was that much of a beta, then he would have converted to Presbyterianism instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:41 PM
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Perhaps you might consider getting some new material. This shtick is starting to get stale. This also points up the question you ask in your OP about "blue pill brainwashing." I don't think there's any "brainwashing" taking place, but it's more a matter of conforming to a certain politically correct viewpoint. Moreover, when someone attempts to argue from a position where they're advancing someone else's viewpoint, instead of their own original thoughts and views which they've formulated themsel…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:21 PM
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I was catcalled daily - especially in Jersey City, which had a huge Hispanic population (for whatever reason, certain Southern and Central American cultures, among others, are way more accepting of this behavior). Maybe it's more prevalent in the northeast, but I live in a city which is over 50% Hispanic, and it's somewhat rare around here. But again, we don't have as much pedestrian traffic, as the city is spread out and most people drive. We also don't have streets with people who seemingly ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 12:54 PM
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Powerful patriarchal fathers and their spoiled daughters is exactly what made feminism possible. Well said. Truer words have never been spoken.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 12:23 PM
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Women were able to do all these things before feminism even existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 12:22 PM
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Does nobody know what satire actually is? Perhaps not, although satire is usually supposed to be funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 12:01 PM
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I've seen that subreddit. Seems kind of dead; hardly any posts. It may have been created to demonstrate how blue pillers look to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 11:58 AM
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If you could choose not to be attracted to the opposite sex, would you? Probably not. I don't even think it's much of a matter of being attracted or not being attracted to the opposite sex, as much as what you do with it and how you handle it. I don't believe that the "attraction," in and of itself, is the source of all the BS and drama that you refer to. You mention that you used to believe that if you weren't getting with women, that made you a "loser." Somehow, that idea got planted in your m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 01:04 PM
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This man has got to be the craziest one I have talked to, but I have talked to men with similar beliefs and reasoning, my question is what drives them into this? I think most online dating and social networking sites are pretty toxic. A lot of it may also be cultural, and some people can get easily frustrated if they can't conform to the standards and methods dictated by society. It's even more magnified on dating sites where men typically outnumber women, which gives women the advantage and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/16 12:48 PM
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I think the term "misogynist" is largely a politically-motivated label, and says just as much about the person using it as it does about the person it's directed towards. For one thing, it demonstrates that they've acquired the lingo of certain political factions and ideologies, and those who label others with that term indicate that they have been clearly influenced by those ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 12:17 PM
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I think equality was never meant to be a literal concept. Even the notion that "all men are created equal" is more a philosophical position than an actual observation of reality. In practice, I think it really comes down to "equal rights before the law," but that's where it seems to get murky. That is, I don't think equality is an entirely broken concept, as long as it's kept within the limited scope of "equal rights before the law." I think the trouble these days is that the concept is being in…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 11:43 AM
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learn to read. Perhaps you should consider following your own advice, since you apparently have the same problem. "if she enjoys sex without commitment she's damaged goods and mentally broken" = misogynistic It seems like you're the one reading too much and/or making assumptions about things you can't possibly know about. There's absolutely zero indication of "hatred" in the above statement, and even if there was, there's no indication that it would apply to ALL women. And yet, here, you're clai…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 10:56 AM
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I have mixed feelings about this, primarily because I've had some lingering doubts about my older brother. I'm certain of my own biological father, since I look so much like him and others from his side of the family. My brother doesn't look like him at all. He was born less than 7 months after the date of my parents' wedding, and I know that my mother had another boyfriend just before she married my father. I don't think they ever did a paternity test, and my father likely would not have questi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 07:51 PM
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I've never heard of Allegaeon or White Lung. Maybe these guys are "beta males," but I found this part of the article a bit telling: You guys are annoying and dickless. I blame myself. Feminism did this to you weaklings. I knew you would take any chance to break free from responsibility and run like the wind into adolescence. Disgusting. Nothing dries a vagina as quick as a blow dryer, and your whole campaign is the Dyson Supersonic. Feminism may have done something to those "weaklings," but it a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 07:12 PM
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Trump may or may not be "alpha." I suppose it's more a matter of how one defines the term, in addition to what may be the "text book definition of beta bux." Trump is 70 years old. I suppose at that age, one might be a "beta bux" by default. But then, it might be more useful to compare "alphaness" with other 70 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 06:57 PM
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I voted yes on Propositions 205 (legalize weed) and 206 (raise the minimum wage in AZ). The local school board elections were another nasty affair. Lots of squabbling and mud-slinging. They can get even uglier than the presidential elections. Well, I'm glad it's finally over. People have been talking about this election for two solid years since the 2014 midterm elections, so now everyone can quiet down for a few days as we start to look forward to the 2018 midterm elections and the 2020 preside…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 06:33 PM
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It might just be better to bring back the old bastardy laws. That would be a powerful disincentive to out-of-wedlock births and solve a lot of these current problems which constantly get brought up here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 12:14 PM
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I've never had any problems with smart women. In fact, the smarter, the better. However, there are many more women who think they're smart but really aren't. Those are the ones who are bothersome.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 01:36 PM
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I don't deny that this exists, only that not everyone born with XX chromosomes does it. There are the concepts of "contentment" and "loyalty", y'know. I don't believe everyone does it either, although I think the main complaint about that is that women often can do it and get away with it more easily, and even get encouragement and support from mainstream society when they do. The legal mechanism is in place to allow this to happen, so from a man's point of view, he's gambling on his wife's sens…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 01:42 PM
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I just took it more as a tongue-in-cheek remark about the porn industry and those who work in it. The OP just mentioned that every porn star interviewed for that series of articles was bisexual, so it makes one wonder why they couldn't find at least one straight heterosexual female who works in porn. It's kind of like "Famous Jewish Sports Legends." Sure, they exist, but they're so rare that people make jokes about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 12:21 PM
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If feminists want to uphold the image that women are wonderful and that men are the monsters then why do they like a movie that shows the dark side of women? Good question. One might ask the same question regarding feminists and their claims that women can be just as "strong" and "independent" as men, yet go gaga over "50 Shades of Grey" and stuff like that. On the other hand, for those feminists who approve of imagery which shows women as "strong" and "independent" (even if it shows their dark …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 12:09 PM
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Just out of curiosity, this seems like such a minor, unimportant point, not directly related to the OP's main topic, and yet, you ask for a source? Is this some kind of controversial issue for you, that there may or may not be any heterosexual female pornstars?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 11:45 AM
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Badboys, like drug dealers or gang members are not well known for abiding social rules. Actually, they will, except that they abide by a different set of social rules. Of course, violating those rules could entail severe penalties, up to and including death.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 07:17 PM
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I see what you're saying, although I see it as a crisis of male leadership, not just in the manosphere or the red pill, but among men in general. I can even see it among men who are more blue pill in their outlook. A lot of younger men who may not have had very many positive male role models while growing up (or any role models of healthy relationships), so a lot of them may be out there looking for answers. I don't know that very many men will actually want to change the paradigm, although I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 07:12 PM
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Men will need to change that paradigm if they're unhappy with it because women see no need to... Isn't that kind of what the "manosphere" is trying to do? Change the paradigm? Yet women are so upset by this and even set up satire subs filled with bald-faced lies just because of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 05:55 PM
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Who better than a man would understand the amount of work and the number of hoops a man has to go through in order to achieve success in romance? As for recognizing manipulation, one could say that the rituals and protocols commonly associated with romance and courting are an endless series of manipulations. As for who has the "control," that remains to be seen, although it's generally viewed that the man who is "masterful" with women would have the control and would be seen as a superior male.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 12:29 PM
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Your thread title seems to contradict the body of your post, so it's hard to know which view you want changed. If there's a greater chance of success in attracting a woman by treating her like a woman, then perhaps your title should read "Women are women first, people second." Because if you tell men to treat women like an "equal person," then that would mean treat them like "another dude." And that doesn't work to attract them, according to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/16 12:14 PM
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many feminisms That, just by itself, speaks volumes. The trouble is that those feminists who have the money and power are those who define "feminism" in terms of how it is presented in the media, academia, and to the general public at large. So, what the public sees is the upper class version of feminism which most people (which would include women) can't identify with. I've often believed that feminists sold out decades ago. But so did a lot of other associated movements and allied causes, so t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 07:26 PM
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A big reason why is because feminism (and a lot of other social movements which I won't get into now) has historically been tone-deaf when it comes to class issues. You see the biggest flurries of feminist activity on university campuses and in upwardly mobile urban areas, which are inaccessible to the majority of women. I agree completely. In fact, many men have said much the same thing only to get a ration of the usual bullshit from the feminists (aka "denial"). Maybe if more women actually sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 06:16 PM
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No, I would say that if you have sex with someone of the same gender, then that would be gay sex - no matter who's penetrating or receiving. Of course, there are some guys who may "experiment," so they wouldn't necessarily be gay as in a permanent condition. But even then, penetrating or receiving wouldn't have any bearing on it. I've heard other views on the matter, such as what you're saying in your OP, but there's no logic to that position whatsoever. Not that there's anything wrong with bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 02:25 PM
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I don't know if it's the actual "sex" itself in porn which is the issue as much as the set up and lead-in to sex that often occurs in porn movies. A repair guy comes to fix a light switch at some young woman's apartment, and she comes to the door barely dressed. Then the cheesy music starts up, and you know what happens next. It's almost comical, the way a lot of these scenarios play out. I can't say whether porn actresses have "pleasurable" sex, but the better ones seem able to act like it's pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 08:24 PM
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I come across quite a few articles in the news about Miley Cyrus and her onstage antics, but I must confess that I've never once listened to any of her music. I've never really had much interest in doing so, and I probably could have gone through life just fine without ever having heard of Miley Cyrus. It used to be that stories like this were reserved for the tabloids or People magazine. Now, it's everywhere. People complain about porn, but even the mainstream networks do all they can to sex up…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 07:23 PM
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I'm sufficiently happy as a man, although I think the idea of "male privilege" is a myth. The only real "privilege" which exists in society is class. The only people who claim that there is such a thing as "male privilege" are those who already enjoy the privileges of wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 06:38 PM
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/u/RidinTheMonster isn't arguing against "red pill" in his post. Looks to me like he just wrote "trp is just full of shit," which would constitute an "argument" against the red pill. It may not be a very good argument, but it's still an argument and it's against red pill. So, that's what he was doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 06:22 PM
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Colloquially, that may be the case, although "single" will often be interpreted to mean as "never married." If someone was ever married, they can never be "single" again. Either they'd be considered "divorced" or "widowed," never "single."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 05:58 PM
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"Single" means "never married." Since a widow was once married, she can never be "single" again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 05:49 PM
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I disagree. I usually see it done where the claim is pretty outrageous. That's fair, IMO. If you make what appear to be outrageous claims you should expect to be called on to support them in a debate sub. That should be common sense. Well, you may say it's "outrageous," but others might see it differently. That's fair, too. This wasn't the claim--at all. It was in the same ballpark. The content of the argument was the same, even if the form is different. I don't see the reason to get nit-picky o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 06:07 PM
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I understand that, but this is not reading a judicial opinion or a medical article. It's one thing to request a source out of a genuine desire to learn more or do honest research, but when people are clearly using it as a tactic and trying to "play dumb," it's pretty transparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 05:59 PM
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Then where else would I write my Alpha Male satire? You should try the Politics board on the Internet Movie Database. You might also check out any of The Karate Kid boards on the same site, as there is a group of posters who seem to fancy themselves as alpha males who constantly badmouth the main character in those movies ("Danielle") and think that Kreese and the Cobra Kai are the finest human beings who ever lived. I think you might have fun with them, and you'd also have a few allies right fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 05:03 PM
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It depends, though. If someone is coming up with something so obviously ridiculous (sky is purple, moon made of green cheese, etc.), then that's one thing. However, for something that might be known as a "popular notion," even if it may be factually incorrect, I can't believe that someone would honestly need a "source" for something that should already be known and/or easy to find out about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 04:52 PM
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Smart people ask for a source. Otherwise, you're just taking any amount of bullshit at face value. I could tell you that the moon is made of cheese and without a source you would have to either accept or reject that information based on zero context. No, I would just think that you're making a joke. Smart people seek out their own sources. They do their homework ahead of time so they're not caught off-guard by something they didn't anticipate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 12:27 PM
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What could the person asking for a citation be guilty of? Is it not a valid thing to ask for? I understand your point, but sometimes it comes across more as a tactic than a genuine request to gain knowledge. Usually it's done in situations where someone is opposing someone else in a debate and is only trying to score points, not have a true meeting of the minds. So, I would say they're guilty of being disingenuous and quite probably intellectually dishonest. Most people understand that women are…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 09:57 AM
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Indeed, I myself am pro-choice but am also rather uncomfortable with the Roe v. Wade ruling. After all, as of right now, I simply haven't heard a convincing rationale (from a constitutional perspective--not from a moral perspective) in favor legalized abortion nationwide in the U.S. by judicial fiat. This last part seems counterintuitive to me. After all, without "judicial fiat" or the government to make/enforce laws, then everything is legal. The government can only make things illegal. So, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 04:04 AM
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One line from Scott Adams' blog which struck me was: Guilty people almost always question the source of the information first. Kind of like how people here say "citation needed" or "source?"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 01:55 AM
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He's just trying to shoehorn his own personal, religiously-inspired view of the ideal man into the label "alpha". What does any of this stuff have to do with the term "alpha", other than that the author has presumably seen people use the term "alpha male" as a good or desirable thing to be, and the author has many other ideas of what's good or desirable to be? Good point. I will say that I don't agree with his definition, and I'm what they would call a "lapsed Catholic." But it just goes to show…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 11:44 PM
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So, Chadette Lightningpussy and Chad Thundercock would make the perfect couple? I suppose a case could made for that. I wonder what they'd name their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 09:22 PM
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Is n count a big topic outside of certain corners of the internet? Probably not, since I doubt many people (outside of the "pillosphere") would even know what "n- count" means. On the other hand, there are still many people who take very parochial views on sex (even if they don't consider themselves religious). In fact, I would say they still represent the majority of the population. In my own personal experience, I've found that it's generally women who seem to take an interest in other women's…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 09:16 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:56 PM
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I'm a dominant guy. Judging from your posts, I'd say you're more domineering than dominant (since your OP tries to make a distinction between the two). As noted in another thread, "the alpha is the leader because he is loud and obnoxious. He gets his way through force of his will rather than the truth of his argument. He leads, not by example, but by dictate."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:51 PM
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Who is the alpha? Perhaps none. Not enough information to draw any real conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:28 PM
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He started talking about how corrupt the government is and how much better off we'd be under radical socialism. ... The Trump supporters are all very much like him. You think Trump supporters are radical socialists?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 11:03 AM
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In favour of red-pill style alpha males being in charge and/or 2. Prefer to be led by a red-pill style alpha male? To some degree, perhaps. A lot of people want "strong leadership," but they also want a leader who is going to be fair, just, honest, will listen to the people's concerns, and able to compromise and build coalitions. In my experience and observation, most people in America don't really want to be "led." Our history and culture has prided itself on rugged individualism, self-reliance…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 05:31 PM
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The"in-" in incel refers to "involuntary". If you COULD have any kind of sex, like with a prostitute or unattractive person and don't, then your celibacy is VOLUNTARY. I agree. I never could quite understand the whole obsession over "incels" around here. Unless there's some sort of physical disability, I don't see how it can be seen as "involuntary."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 03:42 PM
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What women have you met besides inflatable dolls? I must say that I find questions/statements like this to be quite ridiculous. Why is there always this knee-jerk assumption that just because someone has a negative attitude about women, it automatically means that they've never met any women or don't know any women? Doesn't it stand to reason that the average person (no matter their personality type) is going to have ample opportunity to meet, encounter, and/or observe a wide variety of people o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 01:28 PM
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How is this even allowed to be a topic for discussion? It's inane. I don't know about that. I don't think this question is quite so bad as all the incel threads - or all the celebrity threads, threads about body types, rating people's looks from 1-10, threads about BMI, is it too small, am I too fat, etc. Those threads are pretty inane and repetitive, but this thread seems rather original and unique.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 01:14 PM
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Most TRPers are as bad as the women they complain about and the modern society they hate. I don't know that TRPers actually "hate" society, since they still seem to derive some benefit from it. Many seem libertarian in their outlook and appear to enjoy the many rights and freedoms we have in the West. But there is also concern about an overall decline in society, not just from RPers, but from other sectors of society which believe that this country has taken a wrong course. There are concerns of…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:25 PM
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Last Name "I don't even know my last name"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 06:42 PM
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some women are just fucking nutjobs But just some of them, though. Not all of them, right? ;) I think we've just reached the elusive "middle ground" in Purple Pill Debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 06:35 PM
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Well, there's a loaded reply if I ever saw one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 06:03 PM
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But from a political perspective shaming is only making his supporters double down. A lot of it really depends on what, exactly, they're being shamed for. I think more people are inclined to accept shaming over a person's actions, but if it's only over words, then a large segment of the population would be unsympathetic and even consider the shamer(s) as being unreasonable. That's why there tends to be a backlash against "political correctness," since it's shaming over words, which goes against …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 06:02 PM
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Maybe a little tongue-in-cheek, but it's no further off the mark when women talk about how much easier it is to be a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 05:56 PM
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So to CYV- not all Trump supporters are shamed or called deplorable. Just the ones constantly caught behaving deplorably. The rest of you end up tainted by them. Sucks but it's life. I think there's still the question of whether "shaming" comes out of genuine righteous indignation or whether it's just used as a disingenuous political tactic by people who are just as deplorable and have no right to pass judgment on others. Shaming is a tactic which works far better when done by those who aren't w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 12:28 PM
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The article mentioned a "tidal wave of abuse and harassment," which makes me wonder what kind of places are these. These kinds of things don't really happen where I live. Sure, there have been some incidents, but nothing like a "tidal wave." The irony is that a lot of these places where the harassment is ostensibly the most rife also happen to be the large urban areas dominated by liberal politicians. Or in places like the UK which is a liberal paradise. It doesn't happen near as much in the mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 12:01 PM
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I think you may be confusing standard political rhetoric and mud-slinging with "shaming." I don't think they're the same thing. However, it does seem as if the rhetoric and mud-slinging have escalated, making it more difficult for opposing factions to reach any real compromise or political agreements when needed. If one side believes the other is "deplorable" and irredeemable, then it's unlikely that they'll be willing to negotiate or discuss anything in good faith. It is somewhat similar to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 11:32 AM
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I'm going to ignore the stipulation about having the same weight, height, and face, since that makes the question totally ludicrous. I'd likely be more popular, more attention from the opposite gender. I wouldn't even have to think or do anything, other than put on some make-up. Let the man do all the approaching, initiating, thinking, and worrying, while all I'd have to do is sit there and look pretty. So much easier. I'd have greater educational opportunities, grants, and other programs design…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 11:05 AM
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You've got it all wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 07:31 PM
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This is a bad OP and bad analogy. Better question to RP men would be "how would you react to being suddenly and aggressively kissed and groped by ANOTHER GUY"? Your analogy is even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:01 PM
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I have never in my life heard anyone give that bs as the reason women with high n's are despised. I hear it all the time. Maybe you're just not paying attention - or (more likely) you're only hearing what you want to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 04:57 PM
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Ok. According to whom? How is it "weak willed" to fuck a guy who sexually arouses and intrigues you? You were saying that women who raise their N-count lose their value. The reason for this is primarily that they can't be considered trustworthy, since they too easily fall for the manipulations and wiles of these men who are seducing them. If they're too easily led and too easily fooled, how is that not weak? Is it "weakness" for men to fuck big titted sluts? Under similar circumstances, sure. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 12:39 PM
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So what? She's added to her count and given her sex away "for free". Because of that alone she decreases significantly in value according to many. Not necessarily. It depends on the circumstances and the personality type. A lot of women decrease their value if they're seen as too weak-minded or weak-willed - initially resisting "Chad's" advances yet giving in anyway. That's weak, and weakness is just as unattractive in a woman as it is in a man. But a woman who takes initiative and beds an incel…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 11:34 AM
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It's not really analogous to the other question. Your question involves giving away one's entire paycheck (which could be two weeks worth of wages - 80 hours). A woman having sex with an incel is just giving up a few minutes of her time and not losing any money in the deal. It's more analogous to giving spare change to a panhandler.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 10:54 AM
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TRP are more open-minded than BP This may be an effect of embracing a dissenting viewpoint as opposed to the mainstream "politically correct" viewpoint. By default, RPers know everything the BPers know, since they've all been raised in the same society and conditioned to the same belief system. The main difference is that RPers understand what it means to dissent, while BPers don't really understand that. All BPers know is "I must be politically correct and demand that everyone else be that, too…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 12:10 PM
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The financial aspects aside, one reason to not get married is because it's not really much of a "commitment" if it's so easily tossed aside and discarded. That's what I always find so amusing whenever I hear women say that "men are afraid of commitment," when there isn't any real "commitment" anyway. I don't know what the stats are on "divorce rape" either, but I think the main concern is that people can get divorced too easily for often frivolous or stupid reasons. Marriage seems more like an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 09:26 PM
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I don't know if it's so much "romanticizing" the past as much as it's looking back to a time when things seemed simpler, more predictable, and (more or less) "set." For example, people look to their grandparents' generation and hear about all the struggles they went through during the Great Depression and World War II. But they overcame those struggles and built better lives for themselves, for society, and for the world as a whole. They accomplished something and achieved greatness. That's why …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 05:56 PM
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I think it did hurt their reputation since the related subreddits all made posts concerning the attack. I don't think very many people seriously believe that all incels are dangerous like Elliot Rodger. If they are viewed as "whiny losers" now, then they were probably viewed the same way before Rodger's killing spree. Reputation is/was the same as always.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 05:19 PM
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60-90 years ago 60 years ago was 1956 - a time when America was experiencing the greatest economic boom we ever faced before or since. Economic growth was unprecedented, and there was a greater level of affluence experienced by wider sections of society. Even blue-collar workers could afford their own homes, while they had been living in tenements just a generation earlier. Technology and industry were also booming, with new time-saving gadgets and inventions entering the market and making lives…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 01:00 PM
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I wasn't sure what you meant, since we have posters from other continents here in this forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 12:45 PM
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Was Elliott Rodger a martyr for incels? was he a hero? or did he damage their reputation? Well, he was definitely not a martyr, and he was certainly no hero. I don't think he damaged the reputation of incels though. However, another idea is he essentially made problems worse, because he exacerbated the character that men will turn into violent serial killers when denied sex, and thus led to more mockery and insults of incels. This doesn't make any sense. If people are afraid that incels will tur…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 12:37 PM
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Traditional masculine behaviour is overtly punished and covertly rewarded in North America. So, you're saying it's different on other continents?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 12:18 PM
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Was Incel ever mentioned on any new story ever during the coverage of his crimes? I think so. I know it was the first time I ever heard the term "incel," and I was not on Reddit at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 12:05 PM
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I think it's possible for men and women to be friends, even if there is some sexual attraction. I think where it goes south is more when it becomes an uneven situation of unrequited love, which is more emotional than sexual. Men are sexually attracted to a lot of women. They see women walking down the street and they'll likely be attracted to a significant percentage, if not most. That's a constant, so the idea that a man might develop attraction for a woman - even one he considers a friend - is…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 06:12 PM
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And more importantly, why, even when betas are caught outright engaging in shitty behavior are they somehow still given a “pass” and excused for what they say and do because women must have made them that way? Why do people insist on attributing all that is pure and good to beta males? I'm not sure that anyone is given a "pass" for anything. But I think a lot of what you observe here should be viewed in the context of the overall society in which men (as a group) are largely blamed for the misde…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 12:40 PM
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You think polyamory would lead men not to want to be police officers anymore? Maybe not, although police officers still have to be paid, equipped, and given the support and respect of the community at large. Without that, then any situation can quickly deteriorate. You seem to be pushing this idea of "sexual advantage," but I don't think you realize that it's not an absolute or unlimited thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 01:00 PM
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why are standards "just biology" when they're men's standards, but a supreme injustice when they're women's standards? It's just as much biology for women to prefer a certain type of man as it is biology for a man to prefer a certain type of woman. I think it's more a matter of context, since "body acceptance" has been a major theme among women/feminists for several decades. Men were also routinely told that "women don't care about looks" and that their attractions are based more on emotion than…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 12:45 PM
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It doesn't really matter the source, it still exists. Perhaps, but if you still want to keep it, then it would be wise to pay attention to the source. You sound like one of those people who say, "What do we need farmers for? I get all of my food at the supermarket!"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 12:28 PM
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I'm not sure what exactly your point is with this rather incoherent blurb, but I think that there has been a certain level of political persuasion which has gone on in this country which might be analogous to "brainwashing." Or at least, one can see that there's a certain level of conditioning which goes on in the average person's life - from the moment parents park their children in front of a TV, or take them to church, or send them to school. The process of molding and conditioning them to ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 12:24 PM
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By enabling polyamory, women can gain sexual/romantic advantage over men. The question is, how long does this "advantage" supposedly last? What you seem to be missing here is that the actual "advantage" that women have is not really due to their sexual wiles or that men are perpetually thirsty. That may be part of it, but the other side is that men are creatures of duty and have been raised to be decent, civilized, and law-abiding, conforming to the mores and conventions of the overriding cultur…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/16 12:11 PM
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For instance, I fully support the temporary ban on incel posts in PPD I agree, although I don't think this would qualify as "censorship." It seems more a matter of moderating the discussion to try to keep it more productive. I think when a private entity does it, it's more analogous to "editing" rather than "censorship," which is what governments do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 08:29 PM
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So then, I take it that you truly haven't had enough of this "shit."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 12:43 PM
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Personally I think that the only thing that defines a feminist is the belief that women should be as free and as valued as men... That seems like a reasonable definition, although there still seems to be the question of whether those who identify as "feminist" are willing and able to practice this belief consistently . Opposition to feminism seems to fall into one of two categories: Those who believe women are incapable of being equal to men. Those who believe (and have widely observed) that wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 12:42 PM
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What's it to anyone? I don't know, but when you say "I have had enough of this shit," it makes it sound like you have a personal stake in propagating this "Nice Guy" BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 12:26 PM
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Hilariously, I used to also consider waiting for marriage, so no, being nice to get sex really wasn't even an idea that crossed my mind. This is a good point. That's what those who constantly bash "nice guys" are getting wrong, since the entire "Nice Guys®" shtick is based on the assumption that ALL men are sex maniacs who always want sex no matter what. It's like every man who has done a good deed has sex as their secret motivation. No man ever does anything out of the goodness of his heart; th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 12:24 PM
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Okay I have had enough of this shit. Niceguys™ are not actually NICE, they are just assholes. I don't see why you're getting so upset. Someone decided to invent the "Niceguys™" shtick because they thought it would be cutesy. But because some people challenge it and realize it's not true, you get upset over it. What's it to you, anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/16 12:15 PM
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Maybe, it could. We still need smart people to be thinking about those things. But who will pay them, if they can get paid more in the field, why use their intelligence and skill to benefit everyone but themselves? I once saw a bumper sticker which chimed true with me: "In 100 years, it won't matter what kind of car you drove or how big your house was, but it will matter how you raised your kids." I'm not saying that they shouldn't use their intelligence and skill to benefit everyone but themsel…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 06:35 PM
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Why the fuck do TRPs read TPB? Why not? BPers read TRP, don't they? Why wouldn't you expect that the reverse might also be the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 06:18 PM
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It makes zero sense to me who this Chad guy is. Actually, I agree with you on this point, although I just figured Chad was just some caricature of some hypothetical "super stud." It's just like when people say "Joe Average," although I think "Chad" is someone who is considered way above average. I don't know how the name "Chad" got picked. I remember after the 2000 election, the term "hanging chad" was widely used.. "Chad Thundercock" sounds like he'd be one of the Superfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 05:32 PM
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would you put society ahead of what you want/need what you think is best for your family? It would depend on what it is, but in most cases, probably not. Keep in mind that the context here is the OP's contention that "society thought it was a good idea to ensure smart people stayed home so the home life could be improved for future generations." If this is true, then this would imply that life for future generations is diminished if both parents work and leave the child-rearing to someone else. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 05:18 PM
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Do you put all your needs and wants aside for the good of "society"? Not all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 04:35 PM
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You think that using catch words like "privilege" isn't making it obvious where your ideas are coming from?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 09:54 AM
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TRP is wrong, women are smart, society thought it was a good idea to ensure smart people stayed home so the home life could be improved for future generations If this is true, then does this mean that women intentionally shirked their obligations to society by demanding to work outside the home? Has their greed and selfishness had a negative effect on society?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 09:51 AM
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Your inability to shuck off the lens of your own privilege is showing big time here. As is your brainwashing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 09:08 AM
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You claim to empathize with people who are discriminated against yet you seem to think discrimination isn't a big deal because women and minorities are everywhere in many fields. I was just saying that it was no longer as prevalent or widespread as it once was. At one time it was the rule, now it's the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 09:49 PM
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The problem with generalizations is they promote a skewed view of a subset of people. I think that they can be useful to a degree, as long as they're qualified and come with an explanation. I think that people have a skewed view before they actually utter the generalization, and it might be worthwhile to examine how people might come to that skewed view in the first place. All in all the practice is bad, even if we can't help it at times as human beings. In some cases, I've noticed where more po…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 06:18 PM
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Hard to say, but a great many have been impeded by run of the mill misogyny. It has been recommended to me (and I have followed this advice to my benefit) that I hide my gender on my resume so that hiring managers don't make assumptions based on my sex. and I'm not alone! I don't know that it's that way throughout society. I encounter women in all kinds of positions throughout society, including auto mechanics, technicians, doctors, scientists, as well as executive type posts in both the public …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 05:58 PM
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This concept of a total stranger knowing what you specifically are like better than yourself is what I take issue with. I've been me for 30 years. Some random man or woman talks to me for 20 seconds online and suddenly are 100% sure I'm wrong about myself? Piss off. Yeah, I can see your point here. I generally take people at face value. That is, if someone tells me something about themselves, I'll generally believe it, unless they give me a reason not to. Moreover, it doesn't really matter to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 05:16 PM
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both groups you identified yourself as a stereotyped member of-- Americans and men-- are powerful groups. Yes, people may occasionally call you a pig but these stereotypes do not impede your progress through life. How many women have been actually impeded by the Red Pill? The snap judgments that most people make about you based off of your presentation and appearance will generally be neutral or positive. Your gender occupies most seats of power in the most powerful country in the world and, as …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 05:08 PM
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Has anyone ever told you that you were inherently mentally inferior as a result of being a US citizen? And that this definitely applied to you personally, because all Americans are the same no matter what you feel personally? Pretty much. I've seen some pretty severe criticisms of Americans being "inbred hicks" and similar comments. And yes, they are expressed as blanket comments directed at all Americans. But I did not take them personally because I knew that I did not fit the profile of what t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 04:57 PM
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Is all of it jokey, tho? Are you actually trying to claim that AWALT is ''just a joke and feminists are humourless". Cause really, sweetheart. If you are? That makes you the joke. You don't see the humor in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 12:49 PM
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Any thoughts? All of it seems to be criticisms focusing on his mistakes, while she doesn't seem to have any role in it at all - other than some kind of laboratory specimen reacting to various stimuli. This seems to be a constant theme in most dating advice out there - even that which would be considered non-RP. They might say "men should do A, B, C" to elicit a positive reaction from women, along with warnings to "not do X, Y, Z," lest it cause a negative reaction from women. The women are viewe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 12:14 PM
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TRP represents my dark triad past that I worked hard to overcome. Okay fair enough. But then, I would presume that you'd have some knowledge and experience that you'd be able to understand and know where TRP is coming from. If one chick was a cheater we would call her a cheater instead of calling all women cheaters. If one women was materialistic, boring, shallow and attention whoring we would call her that instead of ignoring all women that aren't like that and claiming that all women are like …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 11:51 AM
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Are you guys actually naive enough to believe we're not talking mad shit about you behind your backs? (As with most male locker rooms -- 95% of this shit is jokey. That's the difference between what RPers do online and what normal ''bros'' do in locker rooms). Some of RP is jokey. Even BPers claim that they can see the humorous aspects of what's in RP. But the fact that they often interpret it as "serious" is merely confirmation that feminists and other politically correct types truly have no se…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 11:25 AM
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It depends on what you consider to be an "advantage" or "benefit." It's also a question of whether you want a short-term or long-term benefit. I've heard of some sex workers making a lot of money when they're young, and if they have the discipline to save and invest wisely, they might be able to enjoy an early retirement on easy street. But I tend to think they're the rare exception and not the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 11:13 AM
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We were all eskimo-brothers, but if one managed to pick up one of harder to get chicks it usually was because he pretended to want a relationship and spent weeks getting into her pants. Talking about the women we picked up and how we picked them up was our main topic to talk about. Isn't this pretty much the same kind of thing you bash RP for doing? What's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 11:02 AM
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Why are so many men doing this? It's actually maddening how girls can earn an income out of doing basically nothing useful. They're actresses performing a role. It's the entertainment industry. They create illusions for a living. I sometimes think the same way about movies, TV shows, popular music, sports - which people mindlessly flock to and spend a good chunk of their disposable income on. Let's face it, most people are suckers. Webcamming and porn might seem kind of seedy, but it's still the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 12:56 PM
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Girls seem to be always complaining about assholes so they would really appreciate it when they met this new nicer version of me! This is a good point. A lot of what's missing from the typical "nice guy" narrative is the massive amount of complaints and grievances from women about all the assholes and abusive men these women claim they have to deal with. That's how some "nice guys" reach the conclusion that women prefer assholes, since they constantly hear these stories from women about the men …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 12:19 PM
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no one enjoys hearing someone whine and pity themselves all day long Who says that they're doing it "all day long"? That seems a bit exaggerated. If they spend a few minutes here and there, it's not that much time. And if people don't like it, they don't have to read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 11:37 PM
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At the end of the day, women will end up either being a protected class or "equal." Right now we're in a weird halfway point. The only trouble is that we've been stuck in that "weird halfway point" for 30+ years. Nobody really wants to move forward, least of all feminists. That's the whole reason for the Red Pill and the Manosphere in general, since women can't decide whether they want to be equal or "protected." They can't have both, yet they want both - and that's where most of the issues of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/16 12:34 PM
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Yes, all those incel threads tend to drive the topic into the ground. I've actually noticed that there are more threads about incels than threads from incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 07:50 PM
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Nah, anti-catholics would have to converge and come up with other unifying beliefs in order for it to qualify as such. An ideology is a system of ideas. Well, sure, that's my whole point. A person doesn't just decide to become anti-Catholic "just because." It's due to an underlying foundation of other beliefs and ideas which they already had which led them to become anti-Catholic. That doesn't make being anti-Catholic an "ideology," in and of itself, but it's a choice rooted in or influenced by …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 07:10 PM
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To me, "boring" is in the eye of the beholder. Some subjects I might consider boring, you might consider truly fascinating, and vice versa. It's the same thing regarding a "sense of humor," since that can mean different things to different people. Some people have a very dry sense of humor which can sometimes be lost on a lot of people. It seems it would be more a matter of finding people with compatible sets of interests and personality types. Not everyone fits the same mold.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 06:48 PM
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no... just a bias. ideologies are more than just a commonly held opinion, they are coordinated by a group. you and I can both love pizza, for example, without ascribing to a pizza-loving ideology. Not the same thing. If you want to use a food analogy, then perhaps vegans or health-food freaks might be considered "ideological" if it goes anything beyond a personal preference. In order to be Catholic, I'd have to ascribe to that ideology, to join a coordinated group of people with the same beliefs…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 06:19 PM
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People with a religious or traditionalist bent wouldn't feel especially welcomed anywhere on reddit, or in broader internet culture. /r/atheism used to be a default sub, ffs. Perhaps so, but that would imply an ideology, would it not? Then that would negate the OP's view that BP is apolitical or "not an ideology." It obviously is an ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 05:55 PM
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It's not some "ideology" and everyone who isn't "RP" is "BP" that is almost farcical. It's a reaction to r/TheRedPill and the other shit. This may be so, although there are plenty of factions all along the political spectrum which would be anti-RP but would likely not be well-received among Blue Pillers. Anyone of a religious or traditionalist bent would be anti-RP right off the bat, since they'd be against casual sex, fornication, spinning plates, game, etc. But they would still find very littl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 12:58 PM
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But surely that's a small piece of what TRP is about? Yet that is all that people here want to debate. Or maybe it's the only thing they're allowed to debate without having their posts deleted or locked.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 12:48 PM
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Man. I was baptized Catholic, although my father converted when he married my mother. My father was actually from a Protestant denomination, and there was some anti-Catholic sentiment from his side of the family. Religion was a touchy subject in our family. When my parents divorced, my mother eventually became a Hindu, while my father went to a Methodist church. I spent a lot of time with my maternal grandparents, who were devout Catholics until they died, so that's where most of my early church…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 08:48 PM
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i think where we might differ though is that i see this passivity as learned. i see it as part of gender norms, or the patriarchy, or whatever you'd like to call it. But all of those gender norms were strongly challenged over a half century ago, and the generations raised since then have lived under a different order. The traditionalists fell out of the mainstream and became fewer and further between (although there are still plenty of conservative areas). There has been plenty of encouragement …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 08:14 PM
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I am simply astonished at how damn passive my gender is, as a whole. It's just sad. I think you raise an interesting point, one that doesn't get raised very often. It also seems to be the root cause of most of the arguments and points of contention between RP and BP. Such as in discussions of game and pick-up techniques, it sometimes makes one think that men have to present a certain image and employ certain tactics in order to generate a positive "stimulus response" from some passive, unthinkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 12:52 PM
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Is polyamory the natural state for humans? Is the traditional family a forced social construct? Possibly, although I think family might have been more important when it was vital as a defense and survival mechanism. There's a natural sense of bonding, loyalty, and trust between family members. But in today's day and age when people live in nation-states with laws, police - and the various technologies we have, along with the trappings that come with urbanization, "family" might seem optional to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 12:38 PM
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How do you intend to enforce this? That's a good question. I was thinking that they could recruit a bunch of volunteer deputies to keep an eye out for any women offering sexy content for free. A lot of guys do this anyway, so I'm sure there'd be plenty of volunteers to do it for a good cause. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 06:06 PM
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Canada has freedom. Japan has freedom. The UK, France, Italy, Germany, Spain, Australia, Belgium has freedom! Actually, according to Freedom House, only 44% of the world's countries are considered "free." 30% of the countries of the world are "partly free," while 26% are considered "not free." Source
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 05:51 PM
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Emancipation proclamation was in 1863. The war didn't end until 1865. That didn't end slavery. The Thirteenth Amendment ended slavery, after the war.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 06:48 PM
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It depends on which ideas you're talking about when you speak of the "manosphere." I think the manosphere is the result of multiple conflicting influences and applying modern, progressive ideals (such as those brought about during the sexual revolution) and putting them alongside more traditional ideals (which feminists decry as "patriarchy"). As an example, marriage is a holdover from older, more traditional times, yet more and more people no longer view it as a "sacred" or "holy" institution. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:46 PM
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I don't know if I would say it's in "shambles." I'm just not sure if it's very relevant anymore in this day and age (just as religion seems less relevant to more people nowadays). It's a holdover from older, more traditional times. It also seems hypocritical that many people cling to the institution of marriage when people make a "vow for life" yet don't really mean it. That's why I always laugh whenever women say that "men are afraid of commitment." What "commitment" is there when it can be so …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:03 PM
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True. However, women can still benefit from this, by making enough money off of it when they're young. The money will still exist when they're older. Not if they spend it all. Some people are wise with their money, some not. Especially those who get money easily when they're younger and believe that the cash flow will continue indefinitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 04:42 AM
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The hatefulness, bitterness and misogyny completely distracts from the underlying theory. It also tends to make it a lot less accurate (for example, complaining about how women's hypergamy makes them all lying, cheating whores. Is this necessary to understand the concept behind hypergamy? No. Is it an accurate representation of hypergamy even? No). The reasons given to justify it (i.e., newbs need to go through the anger phase to depedistalize women) seem like a thin veil to hide what it really …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 04:26 AM
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When someone mentions they are anti-PC, it is shorthand for saying "I think racist, sexist, and misogynistic stuff and wish I could say it out loud without societal pushback." Or maybe they're free thinkers who don't let society tell them how to think or what to say. I don't even believe that there's any real "societal" pushback anyway. PC is enforced by a relatively small number of zealots, while most people really don't care either way. Red Pill is sexist and occasionally misogynistic, it trea…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 02:40 AM
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Just as a point of order, I was speaking generally. I did not say nor imply that women were enemies of men. It's just that I see a lot of people say things like "I'm against TRP because they're hateful" and nothing else. If hate is the only reason to oppose TRP, then I was wondering if it was a blanket statement against all hatred and other negative emotions - or if it was just against TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 02:14 AM
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MGTOW who misinterpret GTOW to mean "obsess about women non-stop online" are hilarious. Is it really that way, though? I don't think they obsess over women - any more than atheists "obsess" over religion. Sure they talk about it from time to time, but so what?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 11:44 AM
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The gender role differences in our society are slowly waning anyway, whether you like it or not. It will be a level playing field for both sides, as far as culture is concerned. Possibly, although I think you hit on a key point in that a lot of it will depend on what direction the culture goes. One thing that should be noted is that much of our popular culture is quite oversexualized as it is. However, it also seems clear that the lines between nations and cultures are starting to blur, and our …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 12:39 PM
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I don't think there's any specific "duty" involved, but I think that it's just common sense to be self-aware and to be cognizant of how one's actions, words, and mannerisms might be interpreted by others in various social settings. How do you view modern dating, particularly wrt young people? From what I've been able to tell, it seems that it's a cacophony of conflicting ideas between older, traditional views and more "modern" views. This seems related to the common complaint that too many women…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 12:35 PM
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Or use the phrase "Cock carousel riding sluts", or imply women have no conscience. But unless someone said that about YOU personally, then it doesn't justify your response. One doesn't have anything to do with the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 08:09 PM
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When someone's declares a cynical belief is an absolute fact? Yes, one can accuse them of acting like a jaded cynic. Perhaps, but only if you qualify that remark. If you're trying to declare your beliefs of a person as that of a jaded cynic, then it would be on you to demonstrate how it is a cynical belief. Simply calling someone a "jaded cynic" doesn't actually address anything at all. Even if it were true that someone was a jaded cynic, so what? Where else are you going to go with that? You've…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 04:25 PM
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"Where is evidence TRP works? or There is no evidence TRP doesn't work" Well, the people saying stuff like this are stating bald-faced lies. Obviously, there is some evidence that it works, although I would concede that some evidence is not the same thing as conclusive proof (and that's a matter of opinion anyway). As far as the debate between RP and BP goes, I see it more as a debate over perceptions and philosophical differences - not necessarily anything that can be "proven" one way or the ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 04:07 PM
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Oh wow, someone wrote a book! No one could ever put fiction in a book! Then the onus is on you to prove that it's fiction. You can't just make a declaration that something is "wrong" without something to back it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 03:24 PM
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Hey if you can post evidence that TRP is objectively true go right ahead. No one has managed to actually do this yet Why do you say that? TRP has tons of links to studies, articles, books. Even the OP of this thread posted a link to a book. There's your evidence. Now refute it, or concede.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 05:08 PM
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If their combined income is $200k per year, then they could afford to hire a maid to do the housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 05:04 PM
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I think it's more a matter of lacking situational awareness. It's not that one has to believe that all men are potential rapists, but being more adept at reading situations which may be more dangerous than others. "laying on a couch with a guy", "being alone in an apartment together", "going out to a club alone", or even "any time she is willingly alone with a guy" Are we talking about parties and clubs where most people are there flirting, kissing, making out, and where many are having (or will…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 09:05 PM
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For some reason, I'm reminded of this little exchange from the movie Just One of the Guys. A high school girl writes an article for her school paper as part of a competition to gain an internship with the local newspaper. She doesn't win and blames it on the sexist attitudes of her journalism teacher. At the end of the day, she's talking to her younger brother, who has Playboy centerfolds pasted all over his wall, and she's pissed off because he looks at women only for sex: Terry: I mean, it's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/16 12:26 PM
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And you know what, it's okay. It's okay to rant and "hate" on women. There are also some places where some women gather and belittle men and male interests. However, TRPillers in my opinion need to admit that they're not objective and that they enjoy "hating" on women. It's not a bad thing. Everyone has occassionaly the need to belittle others to feel better. I do it, you do it, everyone does it. It's not bad to admit it. Hating on people is fun. Maybe it's just a forum for venting or banter bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 07:58 PM
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If you think women and men are equal, what makes you think that, rather than "they just are" To me, it really just means equal rights before the law. Women and men are citizens with rights equal to every other citizen. At the very least, the government has to treat everyone equally. How and where this concept should be played out in the private sector and people's personal lives - that seems to be where most of the current debate and dissension comes from.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 07:45 PM
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The wall is simply the point where a man's options become greater than a woman's. Another thing to consider in this regard is that, women who are used to getting a lot of attention when they're younger start to miss it as they get older. They're the ones who keep the plastic surgeons in business. Then there are all those commercials with former starlets and aging models who hawk their "beauty secrets" as they get older. I don't know how this fits in with the concept of "the wall," but it's clear…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 07:28 PM
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Yeah, I saw what you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 12:54 PM
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I think "misogyny" is one of those loaded, phony terms which are designed to tar and label one's political opposition. It doesn't really even make any sense to use it in any kind of debate or discussion, as it doesn't even seem relevant. It's more about political correctness and trying to condition people to think along certain lines. Free thinkers don't fall into those traps; only mindless conformists do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 12:54 PM
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What is Racism? The reason why your analogy fails here is because racism does not automatically imply hatred towards other races. It means a belief in superiority of one race over another. Although that doesn't necessarily entail hatred, since it could just as easily be manifested as liberal "benevolence" and/or "white man's burden."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 12:43 PM
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I suppose it would be true that men who have such contradictory, inconsistent, or double standards, as you outline, would be hypocrites. One might argue that there are plenty of women who embrace hypocritical double standards, where they want to be thought of as strong and independent, while at the same time demanding "chivalry" and "pampering" from the men in their lives. It's not just when it comes to dating standards; there is a great deal of hypocrisy throughout our society and culture, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 12:45 PM
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Sure, I get that, although when men express "old fashioned" ideas about gender roles, they get roundly criticized, although that doesn't appear to be the case for women who also embrace some of the old traditional notions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 07:22 PM
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So if you're so logical, why even browse /r/relationships? I sometimes browse that forum, just like I sometimes browse videos of weird car crashes. Same for train wrecks, disasters, all-out brawls at Walmart.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 12:51 PM
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We are still in the adjustment period. It was only 30 or 40 years ago when most people felt it wasn't really ok for women to have a career, they could work but only if it wasn't something too serious. I often hear arguments like this, relating to this so-called "adjustment period" which is often used as an excuse to justify numerous double standards and inconsistencies. The real irony is that men have adjusted far more quickly than the women have, even though women were the ones demanding all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 12:42 PM
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Agreed on the sexism and gender norms when this is what women complain about a lot - when really they're covering up their strong practice of sexism. Well put. As I've been saying over and over here (and the BPers seem afraid to address this point) is that women are against sexism and gender norms only when they're inconvenient to women. If equality has aspects which are not in women's favor, suddenly women lament that men are not "chivalrous" anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 12:18 PM
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Wow holy shit you went from 'no one excuses the behavior' to 'sometimes the behavior is a little more excusable' real fast. No, I didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 12:49 AM
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You are assuming that women are always responsible for their rape and seem to be excusing the behavior of rapists I really wish BPers and others would stop trying to falsely portray it this way. No one that I've seen here has ever excused the behavior of rapists. Although, there might be some cases where people might question whether some behaviors constitute "rape." In general, criminals are not excused for their behavior. We have laws, police, courts - however imperfect the system may be. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 09:50 PM
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nobody likes a whiner or wants to hear about your problems much at all Except for those who watch daytime talk shows. They eat that stuff up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 08:58 PM
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Red Pillers, how do you feel about the Wachowskis, the siblings who created The Matrix, the film where the phrase "red pill" comes from, being transgender? It doesn't really seem to matter much, does it? I wonder how the Wachowskis feel about their metaphor being used by TRP. If "red pill" means accepting truth over lies, then that can be applied to any number of concepts and issues in society today.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 12:19 PM
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