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This has nothing to do with situations when there is explicit or implied consent. Of course, if you say it’s OK to touch you then that means the guy has consent. This whole entire time I was talking about situations where there was no explicit consent or body language based consent to begin with. Most women do not consider sexual harassment type behaviors from a handsome guy to be sexual harassment in the first place simply because they like it, even if there was no explicit consent or implicit …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:50 PM
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So you’re saying that you don’t want the action itself to be punished. You instead want the punishment be based on how the action is perceived. what next? should ugly or deformed people be forced to put a bag on their head in public because it scares small children? No wonder guys don’t take sexual harassment claims seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:41 PM
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You literally didn’t answer this question but you keep saying “it’s not harassment. It’s not harassment” without saying how the heck is somebody supposed to know It’s not harassment if they don’t have consent. You literally expect them to read someone’s mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:18 PM
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And how is somebody supposed to know that unless they have consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:33 PM
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I’m not talking about the situations where it’s obvious that you have consent from body language alone. Rather the situations where a guy sexually harasses a woman without getting explicit or implicit consent and then she does not do anything about it because she enjoys it. For example a man making a sexual comment to a stranger or coworker
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:10 PM
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How are you supposed to know if it’s unwanted unless you have consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:44 PM
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it's impossible to know if it's harassment unless you get consent beforehand. so the focus should not be on harassment. It should be on the action itself and whether there was explicit consent. I can't tell if you literally cannot understand what I'm saying or if you're doing this on purpose so that you win the argument..
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:11 PM
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why are you saying "take a chance" as if consent is something random. What you forgot to leave out is nearly everyone losing their eye over this are sub 5 men. it's like saying you should not steal merchandise from stores but nearly always deciding to prosecute men for this only if they're black.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 03:02 PM
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Hilarious how women always focus on whether it’s wanted or unwanted and not how a man is supposed to magically know that in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 06:49 AM
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you can't apply consent retroactively.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 04:18 AM
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You don’t have to pretend you don’t like it. It’s still sexual harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:10 PM
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The definition is this: Sexual harassment is any unwelcome sexual advance, request for sexual favor, or other verbal, visual, or physical conduct of a sexual nature What’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 03:09 AM
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Being seen as creepy? Sure. Being lied to that their personality is the problem? Sure. Complaining about how ugly they are? Sure. But where do they complain about women beyond that? The problem is women literally create straw mans out of everything, just like the OP did in her post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:58 AM
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Really? How is it obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:36 AM
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Of course being seen as creepy and sexually harassing women has legal consequences. If it didn’t have like back in the 1940s then guys wouldn’t give two shits.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 02:26 AM
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Discriminating is OK as long as it doesn’t have legal consequences for the other person! I can’t believe I have to break this down for a grown adult. It’s like saying stealing from a store like Walmart is okay as long as you’re not a racial minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 01:37 AM
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If I was making 500 dollars cash for just 20-30 mins?! Hell yeah I’d do it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:33 AM
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What constitutes creepy behavior or sexual harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:29 AM
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very convenient of you to leave out the rest of the sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:20 AM
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lmao. women are not a monolith, at the same time prostitution has to be illegal because no woman could possible want to do it voluntarily. which one is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:19 AM
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Yes if a guy slaps your ass in public or makes a sexual comment towards you it has to be considered sexual harassment regardless of how attractive the guy is or who is on the receiving end. the fact that you enjoy it doesn't change the action.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/26 12:18 AM
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You are creating a strawman. Literally no guys complain that women “treat them differently” based on how they look in a romantic sense. The issue main guys have is women not applying standards equally to what constitutes sexual harassment or creepy behavior regardless of how attractive the man is. Being weirded out when an unattractive guy hits on you is totally fine. But making it seem like you being weirded out is HIS problem and not yours is the issue here. You need to decide what types of be…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:35 PM
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No I don’t talk about common interests goals or hobbies with my partner. It’s more about flirting or sharing past experiences or teasing. What’s the difference between a platonic relationship and a friendship? I enjoy romantic relationships with women because I am straight. I enjoy friendship mostly with men. I never used the term “platonic relationship” before. Why not just say friendship instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:33 PM
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The vibe is totally different. When talking to a girl I’m interested in the vibe is more flirty. When talking to a guy or girl I’m just friends with the conversations are instead about common interests, goals or hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 07:20 PM
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No, it's not required to enjoy spending time with them as friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 01:53 PM
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wtf is it really that rare? i've been with 4 overseas women since june 2023 after having a terrible experience here in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:56 AM
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But you’re not all women, you are just “a woman”. If your opinion was similar to most of the women I met then I could see your point, but it’s not. Most women think asking for explicit consent is weird. They instead prefer the man reads non-verbal cues and slowly escalates. You also didn’t answer the question I asked. if danger is what women find appealing in those movies, then why don’t you see fantasy novels which feature the male love interest as a 5’3 ugly goblin? Why is it always some tall …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:05 PM
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Many men are choosing to not date women at all because of the risk of false allegations. Some men choose to pursue women and take the risk. It’s all about your level of risk tolerance. Personally, I am not pursuing women in the US anymore for this very reason. It’s much easier instead to travel to Nevada and just use escorts or go for overseas women who have lower standards for looks/height and therefore less likely to falsely accuse you. Yes, the millionaire vampire does come with danger, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:52 PM
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It is absolutely valid to compare fantasy with reality. In fact, this is even more applicable to women than men. You need to separate idea that there are thing that people enjoy watching, but don’t do in real life because it’s too dangerous versus things that they genuinely don’t enjoy in the first place. For example, men love the idea of driving in a getaway car after a bank heist, even if they would never do it in real life but if you could remove the danger of getting caught by the police or …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:30 PM
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What you said is a non sequitur. It doesn't make sense. if it were the equivalent of women liking romantic movie scenes where the main focal point is the woman having sex without any kind of verbal consent, then you would see literally every FPS shooter game like COD starting out with an opening scene of the man getting dragged out of bed by military police to get drafted, and you would also see hordes of men online talking about how much they loved that scene and how amazing it was to set the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:07 PM
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why don't women complain about romance novels, or movies that are directed towards them where verbal consent is literally nonexistent? When I went to see the movie Wuthering Heights there was no asking for consent at all, yet I was the only man in the entire theater room. There was no asking for consent either in 365 days or Fifty Shades of Grey. Why are there not legions of women complaining about those two movies?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:50 PM
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In the real world women don’t act like this. They don’t want you to ask. This has been my experience with every girl I have been with before. You can also look at romcoms or romance novels if sex is initiated by asking for consent first or if it “just happens“ But they sure as hell want to be able to blame you for not reading the nonverbal cues if they happen to not enjoy it, just like what happened to Aziz Ansari.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:43 PM
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yes it would but nobody would take the pill. they could argue that they should instead give you a pill that makes you lose all desire to live and give them your entire net worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:33 AM
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this is literally how intelligent agents behave. I'm not saying it's good or desirable. It's like telling a person who has been saving up a lot of money so that they can buy a BMW that they should just take a magic pill so that they don't want a BMW in the first place and are just as happy driving a beat up Toyota Corolla from 1991.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:24 AM
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you can't convince an intelligent agent to modify its own utility function. it's like a law of nature
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 04:19 AM
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oh ok, makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:47 AM
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wow those men are dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:47 AM
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When men say they were lied to by the media, they're not really referring to movies or TV shows, they are instead referring to the news media. even when men and women earned the same amount of money, divorce court usually favors the woman. Men can prepare for this by only marrying women who are significantly above them in social economic status, but most women tend not to marry men who are below them in socioeconomic status in the first place. yes, I agree that men should collectively end the dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:46 AM
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but it doesn't really make sense. It's like saying that I am jealous of how women can get easy access to sex. If I was a woman, I would not even care about having easy access to sex in the first place because I would have a female brain with female motivations.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:41 AM
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OK, but it doesn't make any sense why you would imply that everything in your post would help men find a girlfriend. It's really meant for men who are already in a relationship in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:36 AM
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I literally am a man. You literally wrote in the title of your post that this is meant for men who are trying to find a girlfriend. The problem most men deal with in getting a girlftiend is not getting matches on dating apps in the first place. Men who can get matches on dating apps and are sexually attractive to women don't even care about this because it doesn't prevent them from having sex. I don't understand the purpose of asking men this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:30 AM
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it doesn't make any logical sense. Why are you telling someone how to properly bake cookies if they are trying to bake a cookie, but they are having trouble finding a store that sells flour and sugar in the first place? then when they ask you how this is supposed to help them find flower to bake the cookie in the first place you told them they failed your Turing test.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:27 AM
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I don't understand. I asked you a very simple question and you didn't answer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:18 AM
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we understand your message loud and clear. marriage is not an entitlement to sex. But i literally don't understand your point. the whole reason men are rejecting marriage is because they don't want to be stuck in a relationship with someone who doesn't wanna have sex with them. Why is it that it's mostly women who are so obsessed with getting married and not men? Why do you never see men online complaining that their girlfriend has been in a relationship with them for 5 years but still doesn't w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:14 AM
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and how exactly is this supposed to help me get matches on dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:07 AM
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IDK why women only focus on the rape and sexual abuse aspect when for most men it's not really a major issue compared to the issues they actually do face. the main thing that concerns the bottom 50% of men men is being seen as unattractive and a potential sexual predator, not being the victim of sexual violence. Most men around the 25th percentile (5'8, 4/10 face) for sexual attractiveness would choose to be the victim of sexual violence if it meant they could magically transform into a man at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:00 AM
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1) Misandry has nothing to do with the fact that certain men are much more successful in attaining short term relationships with women than others. 2) Its not a caricature that we build up in our mind. Dating apps have made it so that the top 30% of men can easily get sexual access within just a few hours. You can try this by just creating a fake dating profile of a white guy who has at least a 6/10 face and 5'11 height. 3) Men are okay marrying a woman who settles for them as long as she didn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 05:23 AM
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I've never heard of any such "empathy gap". I don't have empathy for men either who engage in risky activities like skydiving, or decide to go walking around in the hood with a brand new rolex visible on their wrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:23 PM
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1) sexual harassment is much more common in urban areas, nightclubs, bars, parties and the hood compared to safe suburbs. 2) women still go to unsafe areas because the utility they gain from doing so outweighs the risk of getting sexually harassed. 3) I gain no utility from going to these places. Why should I have empathy for women who deliberately put themselves in risky situations and then complain about the consequences? If sexual harassment was really as traumatizing as women make it out to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 08:12 PM
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Is it only an issue to you at 1000 times? Are you asking me if I have a problem when a woman gets sexually harassed only 1 in 1000 times she goes out? That works out to getting harassed once in 2 or 3 years, or maybe 10 times across her entire lifetime. I would put it in the category of moderately annoying but not bad enough to significantly alter your quality of life. Even as a man I get sexually harassed by gay men around once a year and I don't consider it a problem. If it happened every sing…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:54 PM
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Yeah it is. Nobody treats sexually attractive guys like potential rapists when theyre simply going out in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:39 PM
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Of course it’s real. but that’s completely irrelevant. What matters is how often it happens and how often it has to happen for it to be considered a problem? This is a very complicated question. That’s like saying how dangerous does driving have to be for you to stop driving or how dangerous does it have to be to cross the street for you to avoid it. How common do school shootings have to be before everyone decides to just homeschool their kids or do online schooling ? How dangerous does smoking…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:37 PM
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Why did you ignore the word ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:22 PM
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Are you saying there’s no difference between being sexually harassed every single day in a park compared to being sexually harassed once every 1000 times you go out to a park? Calling me stupid will not change the truth. Just answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:01 PM
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You were being completely dishonest. You told me you’re willing to go on a Sunday wearing a sundress to a park in an upper middle class suburban area and you are extremely confident that you will get sexually harassed in just one day. It’s Sunday today, so why aren’t you going there? That’s like saying I am an Olympic level archer just because I managed to hit the target once during archery practice without mentioning how many arrows I had to shoot in order to make a bulls eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:54 PM
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The point is here that you told me you will perform an experiment and you never did.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:41 PM
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Yes once you do the experiment you told me you’d do earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:34 PM
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i stand corrected. i'm sure the majority of americans would love to eat salad so much they'd still eat it even if it gave them diabetes and heart disease. you win.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:05 PM
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Then there’s no reason for them to only be afraid of men, especially ugly men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:50 PM
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So do you or do you not have height preferences in a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:39 PM
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That’s even more hilarious. You have height preferences in a man, but you are pretending you don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:36 PM
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The word settling in the English language implies that you simply went with your best option even though it’s not something you actually want. Most people don’t actually like eating salad. they settle for eating it because it’s good for their health long-term. if there was no negative health effect of eating pizza or donuts all the time everybody would eat those foods and never touch a salad again. Similarly, many women choose to get married to men they don’t find attractive simply because the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:33 PM
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That’s hilarious. It’s like calling height preferences an insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:27 PM
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We don’t want to provide resources or effort for a woman who does things or has done things before to sexually satisfy other men in exchange for less effort than we are putting in.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:10 PM
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We don’t really care about keeping the relationship alive. We just don’t wanna be one of those guys who the woman settles for.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:07 PM
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Are you still up to do the experiment? You said you’d wear a sundress in an upper middle class suburban park and you’d get sexually harassed right? Around how long do you think you’d have to sit there before you get sexually harassed?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:03 PM
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Yes walking in downtown Oakland late at night is just as safe as Beverly Hills because someone somewhere has been raped before in Beverly Hills. You win. In fact you might as well walk down the street wearing a bikini in Kandahar.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 02:16 PM
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No one real life example doesnt count over a whole lifetime. If you go by that standard I have been beat up and nearly killed before which is way worse than being SA’d. I don’t have any issue with you being SA’d what matters is how often it happened. If it happened too often it’s obvious that you would have never gone out in the first place and stayed home. I am not talking about women in Afghanistan. If we expand our scope to people Overseas then people living in North Korean are the worst off …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:36 AM
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so women are never responsible for sexual violence or any kind of harm towards the opposite gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:08 AM
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There’s a huge difference between getting sexually harassed across a lifetime and performing experiment over one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:20 AM
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You’re telling me you literally got sexually harassed in the last 19 minutes…?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:20 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:59 AM
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if that's downtown then no it doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:57 AM
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Probably they feel unsafe in a movie theater alone with an ugly man sitting behind them. I am not dumb. The woman is enjoying the movie but all of a sudden she looks back and is startled to see me. Then she looks at her daughter and her demeanor immediately changes. Then leaves after a minute. But I am still supposed to give them the benefit of the doubt??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 01:17 AM
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thats what I am saying. Women should avoid living in downtown areas because its fucking unsafe. Hell I would even tell men to avoid those areas unless they absolutely have to live there or else they'll starve to death. Used cars in the US are dirt cheap. Even with today's inflated car prices you can literally buy a 90s toyota corolla for only 5-6k that will probably last you another 10-15 years with minimal maintenance. Liability only insurance is less than 500 bucks a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 01:13 AM
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You can DM me and I can provide you with link to the stats. I dont want post them here because it would doxx me. But if I compare the number of rapes per 100,000 people in the suburb where I live compared to the nearest downtown here in california, The downtown area had 14x to 15x more reported rapes per 100,000 people than the suburb for year 2019. I am not able to provide more recent stats for the downtown. In that same downtown I got physically assaulted 4 times within a 3 year period when I …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 01:05 AM
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yes of course they may have had a bad experience. I don't care. my point is choosing to only react that way to ugly men as the result of those bad experiences and not literally every human being that could harm you is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:56 AM
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We were alone in the theater. She only left after she looked back and was startled that I was there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:17 AM
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student loans, the same way everyone else pays for it. and you're not gonna get SA'd in the middle of a lecture hall or going back to your car on campus to drive home.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:51 PM
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no, it happens mostly on public transport, downtown, or seedy areas. for example i have seen this happen before in downtown on the train or ghetto in real life. https://youtu.be/b1XGPvbWn0A but never in the suburbs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:50 PM
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But damn I dont wanna be dependent on medication for the rest of my life. What if I lose my health insurance. They gotta make this shit illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:24 PM
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Yeah sorry I dont believe that. I aint saying it doesnt happen but its so rare that I've literally never seen a chick getting sexually harassed unless it was on public transport or in downtown where all those seedy people hang out, or in the hood. But in nice suburbs? never. I can also understand getting stalked on university campus cuz I've heard of that happening but still I put it in the same category as getting assaulted on the train. I literally I just asked my sister if she or any of her f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:21 PM
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but what if it aint just a one time thing? What if he's got an HIV positive side chick that he's smashing on a regular basis but he still doesn't bother getting tested?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:12 PM
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Not much harder than getting an MBA
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:07 PM
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Yes 100%. You can even as a 6’3 Chad who got SA’d as a kid if he would trade having never getting SA’d if it meant he had to suddenly transform into a 5’3 bald Indian guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:06 PM
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WTF this has gotta change. How is this shit even legal?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:04 PM
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What I asked is different. The man in this scenario has sex with a woman who he knows has HIV, but never bothers getting tested himself and continues to have sex with other women. Shouldn’t the fact that he didn’t bother disclosing the fact that he’s having sex with a woman with AIDS itself be a crime? Even if he doesn’t know that he has AIDS himself?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 11:03 PM
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Yeah if they’re lazy or not smart enough to understand the material. That doesn’t apply to most people on Reddit. It’s like saying not everyone is suited to work at a job in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:59 PM
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I cant tell if you’re serious or joking. What you’re asking me to do is like telling black people to “advocate for the idea that blacks and whites should coexist safely together” instead of complaining about racism. Why should I be blamed for the actions of other men? And why is it that ugly men are treated like sexual predators but handsome ones aren’t? I’m not saying you have to restrict what you do. Every woman who chooses to engage in these activities is making a trade-off. She is trading he…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:55 PM
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Yeah a masters degree in underwater basket weaving isn’t gonna pay $250K a year. Just look up how much an physician assistant, perfusionist, anesthesia assistant, travel nurse, or nurse practitioner makes in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:42 PM
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Literally google how much money a nurse practitioner or certified anesthesia assistant makes and the education requirements. You spent all this time googling stats on sexual assault but you didn’t bother googling this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:42 PM
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Are you fucking dense. I don’t use public transit anymore cuz of all the times I got physically assaulted on there. I don’t go downtown anymore for the same reason. Nobody is gonna see a girl as a “sexual object” at a suburban Costco on a Saturday at 2PM. Even if they saw me as a sexual object IDGAF as long as they aren’t bothering me. My problem is women whining and complaining about getting sexually assaulted when they can literally just choose to not engage in activities where sexual assault …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 10:40 PM
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ok maybe i'm wrong i heard some stats that most sexual assaults happen when alcohol was involved
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:52 PM
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I'd only wanna change back if i had an incurable deadly disease that prevents me from leaving the house, if i am wheelchair bound, or if im in jail or under massive amounts of debt. you can work part time if its in a safe suburb. literally 99% of rapes or sexual assaults happen in frat parties or in seedy areas with high drug and alcohol use. Going out at night raises the risk but not much if it's a suburb. I don't see why my "rules" prevent you from working at a blue collar job or just working …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:35 PM
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idek i think there needs to prison for this. just like a dude who doesn't bother getting tested for AIDS and ends up infecting a bunch of other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:26 PM
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yes the point is i'd take a 95% chance of improvement in exchange for a 5% chance my life gets worse. The only situation i can think of is if im in jail, massive debt, or if I have an incurable disease. But this applies to both women and men. Do you have some savings or investments to cover your expenses while you're in school for 2-3 years? or could you work part time?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:18 PM
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so it should be called paternity negligence or something like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:06 PM
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so if there isn't a legal definition for this, what should it be called? I asked ChatGPT and it told me that although there is no legal definition for this yet it could be called reckless concealment of material risk. does the legal system have any way to punish a man who knowingly has sex with a woman who has AIDS and then and infecting 10 other women and deliberately chose to not disclose his sexual history with them or even get tested.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:06 PM
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most people on this subreddit are not lawyers. it's very funny that you guys keep trying to hide behind the legal definition instead of actually addressing what the guy is actually trying to convey
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:59 PM
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So then, why is everybody focusing on the legal definition of fraud instead of how this should actually be punished?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:58 PM
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nobody thinks of the actual legal definition of "fraud" when they hear the term paternity fraud. What they actually think of is a woman having a kid with another dude and trying to convince the guy who she thinks will raise the kid that it's actually his.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:56 PM
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why would you need to quit your job? do women get raped or assaulted at your place of work? for a masters degree there are always student loans available. that's literally how nearly everyone pays for their education unless they have rich parents. you don't even need to be that smart to become an RN, PA or CAA and they make almost half as much money as doctors without having to deal with the insane admission requirements and 12 years of education. it's not wild to trade your life with "any woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:53 PM
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It's not the same thing for women and men. For men it doesn't matter if you're old or young. it only matters if you're ugly, short and bald. the problem with a lot of older guys is they get fat and bald and don't maintain their appearance. older guys who are tall and maintain their appearance like henry cavill or chris evan's get plenty of positive attention from younger women and nobody has a problem with it. older guys who let themselves go like leonardo dicaprio or toby maguire get vilified w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:47 PM
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i am not a lawyer. when i hear the word fraud IDC about the legal definition i care about how the average person interprets the meaning of it. hiding behind legal definitions doesn't help prove your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:39 PM
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hell nah. i ain't entertaining any chick who decides she's suddenly gonna become a prude in front of me 😹
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:35 PM
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thats hilarious. it's like saying a guy can knowingly have sex with a woman who has aids and then infect whole a bunch of other women and then claim innocence because he didn't bother getting tested.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:29 PM
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I don't understand how this is even a question. Being a woman in my place is 10x better than being a man. I'd be way happier living my current lifestyle if i could just be treated like a normal human being when i go out and not some kind of sexual predator. and tf do you even mean by "being unable to work at most jobs". maybe 15-20% of jobs are done in downtown areas. the rest are all in suburbs. Even as a guy i don't work in downtown because i don't want to get beat up and assaulted on the trai…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:25 PM
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it's literally impossible to get pregnant unless you have sex with someone. just make it a simple rule that if a woman has sex with multiple people she's on the hook if it turns out the kid ain't the one whose she thinks it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:16 PM
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that's not the point... the point is being born as a sexually unattractive man is so bad that most men would probably trade being sexually assaulted multiple times during childhood if it means they don't have to deal being with being sexually unattractive as a teenager or a young adult. most 5'4 ugly guys would probably take the deal even if it meant they could just be a 5'11 white guy with a 6/10 face.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:08 PM
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ideally i'd be a beautiful woman, not a handsome man (assuming by beautiful you're referring to someone around the 70th to 90th percentile in looks). The reason gender sticks out so much is that it's one thing that is obvious from birth. nobody knows when a kid is born how handsome how smart or how tall he will grow up to be. my point is whatever problems i'm running into as a man would be completely nonexistent as a woman. and the problems that women mostly complain about are 1st world problems…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:00 PM
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i don't understand your point. if a guy is unattractive here in america but is seen as more attractive overseas because the men there are more unattractive and short, why is it pathetic if the American guy decides to go there for a better dating life? Do you want him to continue to torture himself trying to compete with 6'3 white chads? How does it even make rational sense? A big reason why the majority of the flight itineraries are to poorer countries is simply because the men there are less at…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:48 PM
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if you control for IQ, height, conscientiousness and neurotypicality vs neurodivergence, how much does it reduce the differences in life outcome?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:30 PM
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you bring up a good point, but i think most guys here would rather get assaulted during their childhood if it means they don't have to spend their life forever alone as an adult. you can simply ask guys who are very short like 5'4 or below if they would trade getting SA'd during childhood in exchange for growing up to be 6'3 and handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:22 PM
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part of the reason i'd rather be a woman is because I was born with features that are okay or even attractive on a woman but screwed me over as a man. things like having long eyelashes, good eyebrows, small lower 3rd, 30th percentile height, etc. but even if i was an ugly woman, my quality of life would still be way better than it is for me now. At least i could just outside in public and get treated like a human being rather than seen as a potential sexual predator or creep. i always feel i hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 07:19 PM
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he is short like 5'8 or 5'9, and looks neurodivergent, with poor forward facial growth. face wise he is around 4.5 or 5/10. This means he's somewhere between the bottom 30% to 50% in looks compared to other men. the lack of height bumps him down an additional 1 to 2 points. I look very similar to bear both in face and height and I get zero matches on dating apps other than women looking to settle down and get married soon. I have done similar experiments with other guys in a similar looks / heig…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 11:02 PM
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You're really clutching at straws here. It was something that was barely mentioned for 30 seconds in the whole movie. It was likely placed there as a prop to just make it look like bear's looks aren't the problem. Why do you never see guys who look like Ian hooking up with girls who look like Nikki in movies that are actually meant for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 06:05 PM
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Lmao the chick literally blocked me. You can literally google everything and find out that everything I said is correct. Just google this: CAA Salary range RN salary range NP salary range Is there a genetic test for cystic fibrosis
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 07:50 PM
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they lose a shit ton of money. everyone chooses to blame the US healthcare "system" but no one blames the people working within the system who are among the most highly paid professions in the entire country. A certified anesthesia assistant requires only a masters degree and earns triple or even quadruple what most other professionals do with an equivalent level of education. They start out making 130k and within a few years start earning upwards of 240k a year. a registered nurse makes 170k fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:24 PM
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are you saying they're rich enough to feed their kids but too poor to afford condoms?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:16 PM
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are you saying they're too stupid to realize what birth control is?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:10 PM
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Lmao the doctor is using sick people’s vulnerability to buy a mansion and new BMW. Doctors are one of the most highly paid professions in the US. Get real
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 05:02 PM
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If it’s really that bad there then why are people from those countries still having kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:35 PM
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America is not a Third World country. it has nothing to do with my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 03:30 PM
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that doesn't really confirm anything. if the marriages were truly legitimate you would expect just as many women from western countries moving overseas to marry men living in Third World countries, but that almost never happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 03:25 PM
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some of them do that, but most of them end up, marrying the woman and bringing her back to their home country though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 03:23 PM
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everyone is quick to shame the men who date women from these countries, but nobody here is shaming the parents who decided to have children in such terrible condition conditions in the first place. It's like being born with cystic fibrosis and then blaming the doctor who makes over 300-400K a year treating people like you for exploiting your misery instead of blaming your parents for giving you bad genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 03:19 PM
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I agree. i think marriage should not involve the government at all anyways. it should be a purely religious thing. Most manosphere guys agree. look at what Rich Cooper or Orion Taraban say.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 03:16 PM
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i'm not talking about marriage fraud. i'm talking about women using marriage as a tool to improve their standard of living. if most of these marriages were genuine then you'd expect just as many white american women choosing to move to vietnam to marry vietnamese men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 01:48 PM
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Literally the whole point of getting rid of marriage visas is to stop people from poor countries from using marriage as a tool to immigrate to developed countries. People from Third World countries who are wealthy enough enough to not want to immigrate to the developed world will have access to other means of immigration, eliminating the need for marriage visa altogether. why do you think most of these passports bros go to countries in Southeast Asia, Latin America or eastern Europe, instead of …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 08:13 PM
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What’s stopping their future spouses from immigrating by other means?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 07:57 PM
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You are over generalizing. I have had causal relationships with women overseas despite me making it explicitly clear that I don’t want marriage or kids. On the other hand i didn’t have any luck here in the US unless I was willing to become a beta provider ready for marriage, which I’m not interested in. Making it clear that I don’t want marriage cuts my dating pool overseas by around 70-80%, but it’s still better than being left with no options here in the US. Simply having an American accent an…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 07:51 PM
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Canadians can immigrate through other means.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 07:43 PM
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just make marriage visas illegal. that'll solve the entire problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 07:34 PM
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yes he is ugly relative to nikki and that's all that matters. women have an extreme aversion towards men being in a relationship with women who are out of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 10:51 AM
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most of the men who harass women on the street are very impulsive and disagreeable, the complete opposite of men who are jealous of women. the guys who harass women know women don't like to be harassed but they still do it because they think it's funny or that one day they might get lucky. they don't consider the fact that they might end up in prison either because they're impulsive and a shorter time horizon when weighing risk vs reward. most of the time when men call women emotional it's refer…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:56 AM
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And how exactly is it a low IQ response?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 02:19 AM
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but we're not really talking to the broad population here we're talking to people on reddit only.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:00 AM
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i'm saying it's very rare to literally not have any friends or acquaintances who are of different races or attractiveness levels i mean you can even ask random people on different subreddits this same question. i doubt even 5 or 10 percent of them have only similar friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:58 PM
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i'm not talking about using one single person as a sample. i meant asking multiple people you know from different backgrounds. yeah i understand your lighting strike analogy now. but I find it hard to believe that if you're good looking all your friends and acquaintances are only good looking people. or if you're ugly you only have ugly friends. or all your friends are only of one particular race. is it the case for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 11:48 PM
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within one's own social circle there are usually people of many different races, attractiveness levels, and social ability. Unless you only hang out with one group of people, which isn't very common anymore here in the US. the lightning analogy doesn't work because lighting strikes are extremely rare. if the success rate for cold approach was like 1 in 100,000 approaches vs 1 in a hundred million approaches then it would make sense to conduct a study. Because anecdotal evidence would tell you th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:51 PM
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You can get a reasonable estimate for the success rate of a cold approaches by simply asking your friends and family their success rate and what are the patterns that they notice during their cold approaches. by asking enough people you will start to notice patterns too. For example, you may notice that people who do cold approaches at bars or clubs tend to get better success compared to grocery stores. you may notice that men who are taller have much better success than shorter men, or the race…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:57 PM
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You completely missed the point. How do you think a kid would managed to accurately guess the average height of giraffes if they didn’t have access to an encyclopedia or they didn’t have the ability to look it up online like in the 1980s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:49 PM
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There is tons of information that you could use to estimate the distribution. You could just look at your friends who may be does cold approach and give their success rate or simply ask them. You can look up the rate of people who say they are successful with cold approach online you can look at your own family or siblings. What you said instead, though is that it’s literally impossible to estimate the normal success rate across different group groups, which is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:17 PM
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WTF it’s not a stable biological trait across different populations. How is the kid supposed to know that there isn’t a population of giant 60 foot tall giraffes living in Africa that he’s never heard of before? Crime rate isn’t a “stable biological trait” either but You can step foot into Oakland, California and within a half an hour realize that the crime rate at least 3x higher than the national average. You don’t need to study to tell you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:15 PM
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You completely missed the point. You can literally ask someone to guess the average height of giraffes without them having to look it up online. People can estimate the average height of giraffes simply by having seen pictures of giraffes in encyclopedia or seeing them in person at the zoo or in nature documentaries. Their estimate would be very close to the actual average even if they didn’t look it up. You could’ve also asked people in ancient Greece to estimate the average height of humans on…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:38 PM
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thats like saying it's impossible to estimate the average height of giraffes because you haven't measured every single giraffe population on the planet first. lmao. Even a little kid who has never read a study on average giraffe height can reasonably guess that giraffes are somewhere between 10 feet and 40 feet tall. you must also be one of those people who refuse to cross the street unless you have read a study on the pedestrian accident rate per crossing for that particular intersection you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:23 PM
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If you were actually replying in good faith you’d realize that you can get a distribution of success rate and arrive an answer something similar to “around 50% of guys who cold approach get no success at all. 10-15% have a success rate of around 1-2%, and another 25-30% of men have a success rate closer to 10%. The most successful 20% of men have a success rate closer to 30%.” But instead of that you’re like “omg it depends!! It depends!!! how dare you try to analyze it!!!!”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:04 PM
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You can estimate that by asking people how often they approach people and how many successes they had.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:58 PM
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that's like saying there is no normal success rate when applying to college or when applying for jobs...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:52 PM
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Why did you mention that abortion has been practiced for thousands of years?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:05 PM
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But we don’t allow infanticide anymore that’s the point…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:04 PM
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what does it entail? people not wanting to sit next to me on public transport. people getting scared of me when i'm at the movie theater. people being cold to me for no reason. girls that im seeing on dates treating me as if im some kind of potential rapist even though i try to be as respectful as possible and not make physical contact, meanwhile i see couples all around me where the girl is all over her man and showing affection. people will say women have to fear for their life. well i have be…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:54 PM
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how tf would a random woman get treated like a sex object in public. i'm taking about how people don't even treat me as a basic human being when im at the grocery store or mall.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:59 AM
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maybe about six months at most, unless the job market is totally cooked like it is right now. then maybe u can give them 2-3 years before they gotta go. yeah old people sometimes do childcare but that doesn't cover the cost of medicare and social security. a single heart surgery can probably pay for lifetime childcare for 30 or 40 families.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:21 AM
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I’m not really talking about the 80s and 90s. I’m more talking about the 1950s and before.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:30 AM
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not really because they have the potential to get another job if you train them. But old people usually just retire and then die. Same thing with disabled people..
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:01 AM
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I don't really feel the same way about animals as I do for people. whatever you're saying also applies to kids that are alive. I mean, do you think it's acceptable to kill a kid who is suffering from disease?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 02:00 AM
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I meant these things can save us a lot of tax dollars. Also throw in old people on Medicare and social security.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 01:33 AM
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I used to live in a midwestern state until 2009 and i saw the same thing there. idk what u exactly mean by "adult couple" but i was referring to people who are high school or college age like maybe 16-25. i do see older couples in public a lot but they're all relationships where the guy is playing a beta provider / husband type role, not a boyfriend. you're telling me that if i go to a dance bar in a midwest or northeast i should be able to see guys under 5'10 and under 25 years old who are in n…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 01:09 AM
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malls, movie theaters, the airport, strip malls. i have never been to a dance bar. i live in the SF bay area
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 12:02 AM
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it just seems immoral as fuck to kill a fetus when all u had to do was just use birth control or remain abstinent, unless the mom deliberately wanted the baby and was financially prepared to have to, but it was gonna endanger her life or somethin. then i can understand
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:30 PM
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ohh my bad i thought the woman could just have the baby and drop it there without asking for permission from the father first.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:13 PM
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when "traditional dating" was commonplace the world was completely different. casual sex was much less common and divorce laws were not so stacked against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:13 PM
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how's a man gonna abandon a baby in front of the fire station before it's 30 days old tho? like does he just kidnap the kid from the mom and drop it there?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 11:04 PM
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my bad. i was referring to the fact that men have to pay child support for abandoning their kids but women can literally drop their kid off at a fire station without consequence
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:59 PM
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abandoning it is still better than killing it. how is that even an argument?? they literally allow women to drop their baby off in front of the police station, no strings attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:56 PM
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i mean they also practiced infanticide for thousands of years too... i don't see how that's relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:55 PM
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the same thing also applies if you decide to end the lives of low IQ people, disabled people, and people who have a history of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:54 PM
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then... maybe don't get pregnant?? and if you're too lazy to use multiple forms of birth control then maybe just don't have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:52 PM
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33 M zero It feels weird as fuck to randomly stop a girl in public when she probably just wants to just run her errands and not be bothered. Especially with how scared of men women are these days. I don't want to end up on some reddit post a girl makes about how men keep approaching her and won't leave her alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:48 PM
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whenever i go out i literally don't see any unattractive young males socializing or hanging out with their girlfriend. I am 5'8 and less than 1% of young non-hispanic men i see with a girlfriend are under 5'10. At my height or below it's literally zero. I should be seeing around 30% of young men in public at my height or below. I'm guessing those guys just choose to stay at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:45 PM
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The word "regular guy" has no functional meaning in this context. regular guys have wide range in terms of the type of results they get on dating apps. a 5'11 white guy with a 6/10 face is "regular guy". so is a 5'8 indian guy with an 4/10 face. but the white guy will be drowning in matches and the indian guy will be lucky to get even one unless he's open to being a beta provider ready to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 10:34 PM
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yes 100%. get to actually be treated like a human being in exchange for enduring period pain once a month? sign me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:48 PM
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I find it hilarious how when a man says that he does not like people who engage in casual sex, he is labeled as a misogynist by nearly all women, but when instead a woman vilifies casual sex by describing it as "being used as a cum dumpster," no one calls her out for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:43 PM
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wouldn't you be happy living alone and just inviting a guy over when you feel like it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:44 AM
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saying those comments online to insult men is not the same as saying it to someone you're not interested in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:41 AM
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Yes there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:03 AM
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read the message I was replying to initially. then you will understand. if you still don't get it then I will explain it to you .
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:19 AM
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Everyone has the responsibility to not gaslight the person they're talking to. I can't believe i have to explain this to a grown ass adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:05 AM
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it's pretty simple just wait for sex until after getting marriage and get married Young. That way you don't have to worry about anyone putting a mask on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:47 AM
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you don't need to go to work to survive. you can always live like people did 10,000 years ago. nobody is entitled to a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:46 AM
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it's like telling a starving farmer who can't afford bread that he should eat cake instead, or telling a homeless person to just buy a house, or a jobless person to just get a job. completely tone deaf. lmao. if women were actually responding in good faith they'd say something like "yeah we understand you're ugly and we recognize that there's a 99.99% no woman is gonna want you for a short term relationship or hookup because of the way you look. you can either wait for sex by being in a relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:44 AM
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When was the last time you’ve seen a really attractive guy posting on these forums?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:55 PM
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that doesn't answer the question. you're claiming there's no need to say out loud that attractive misogynists can get women because it's obvious. well, it's also obvious then that ugly men with great personalities will also struggle getting women, since the main variable here seems to be attractiveness and not how he views women. so then why, every time a guy complains online about struggling with women, the default explanation for his lack of success is that he must be a raging misogynist and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:40 PM
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Yet somehow these so called “normally developed people” don’t understand that being a misogynist makes you less attractive to women? That makes no sense. Why do women happily say the socially acceptable just world fallacy explanation out loud instead of the other part even though both are obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:34 PM
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Then why don't people (especially women) make it clear that having a bad personality doesn't necessarily mean being a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:15 PM
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do you not find your mother admirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:18 PM
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i've only seen that said when referring to women not wanting to get married and have kids when they're young, not that they don't want to get married altogether. I know plenty of women who want to get married, but they just want to ride the cc for a few years before they decide to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:19 PM
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i don't know any man who complains about women not wanting to get married or have kids. quite the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:20 AM
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read the post again and show me where he's referring to all men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 02:38 PM
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WTF. He didn't say that every man is a shark. He was only referring to men who find excuses to needlessly interact with random women in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 01:11 AM
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warning someone that the lake they're swimming in is infested with sharks doesn't mean that you're a shark yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 10:44 PM
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are people entitled to housing, food or healthcare?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:39 AM
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None of this is said in a literal way. It's said in response to the constant vilification of men and masculinity by feminazis and it's intented to be a symbolic way for men to reclaim their masculinity. Nobody ever says this to women who say bad things about men. They're always coddled and everything they say is interpreted in the most positive way. It's frustrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:10 AM
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You didn't even answer my question, and I don't understand how what you said has anything to do with the OP's post or my comment. The OP said that because a man thinks that women become physically unattractive as they age, it therefore means that the man will probably divorce his wife or dump her when she grows old and unattractive. What I disagree with is the idea that just because your spouse becomes unattractive it means that you'll automatically leave them for someone else. Pretty much every…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:02 AM
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Wow this is shocking. I had no idea the disparity was that big.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:54 AM
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Yes of course, most people aren’t gonna dump their spouse just because they become ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 03:45 AM
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Would you be willing to date a man with a disfigured face if you weren't already in a a relationship with him? How do you think such a guy would perform on dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:35 AM
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Do you think your husband has inherently less value if he gets 3rd degree burns on his face from an accident? Would you want a newer replacement husband if that happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:31 AM
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why should a man date a woman if there's a possibility that he gets into a car accident and ends up 3rd degree burns with a disfigured face? According to you it's obvious that she would replace him with a more attractive guy when that happens right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 01:02 AM
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Simply because men value youthful appearance more than women do. Around 70% of women I see appearing to be between the ages of 20 and 25 I find attractive Between 30 and 35 this goes down to maybe only 10 to 20%. Between 35 and 40 it’s less than 1%. It doesn’t have anything to do with skin texture either, which can easily be managed through retinol creams. It has more to do with the volume and bone loss that occurs in the midface, with age, the maxilla literally recedes back, lengthening the upp…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:46 AM
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Being red pilled doesn’t mean that you cannot fall in love with a woman and form a bond with her that will last a lifetime. The red pill’s purpose is to help prevent men from getting hurt or used by manipulative women. Just because there is a small vocal minority of men who say bad things about women does not mean the red pill as a whole advocates for this. I have seen people say that a man being attracted to younger women is somehow an indication of him being an Adobe acrobat reader file. Or th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:31 AM
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You keep lumping me in with “all men” who apparently vilify women for aging and that women don’t do the same for men. Really? Look at how much hateful content is directed towards sexually unattractive men by women online on mainstream subreddits or open public forums. Whenever a criminal goes to jail and there’s a post made about it on Reddit, If he happens to be short, the very first thing people attack is his height, making tons of jokes about it. why don’t people make the same jokes about old…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 12:41 AM
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Absolutely ridiculous. I’m 99% sure you would never consider dating or marrying a crippled guy who has a disfigured face from an industrial accident or car crash. But let’s say you start dating a guy, get married and have kids together. And then a few years into your marriage he is involved in a horrific car crash and ends up with 3rd degree burns on his face with permanent disfigurement and disability. According to your logic you would divorce him immediately because you don’t find him physical…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 09:20 PM
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Okay maybe that is true for your social circle. I don't really know anyone who got married in their 30s (most of my friends got married between 25 and 30 and the women were also between 23 and 26). About the appearance of aging. That is completely false. I've ran into way too many women who think they look 20 years old at 30 when in reality it never happens. I dare you to show me a single woman who looks 20 when she's actually 30 years old. Look at all these women who think they look like in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:32 PM
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Yes because men value youthful appearance in their partner more than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:01 AM
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I said that a 5/10 woman who looks 20 is more attractive than a 7/10 woman who looks 30. I never said I find a 5/10 woman who looks 20 more attractive than a 7/10 who also looks 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:55 AM
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i'm not saying it's impossible for women to find a husband in their 30s. Why are you strawmanning me? I'm saying that a woman can find a more attractive man in her 20s to settle down with than she can in her 30s. I am speaking for myself as a man I would rather marry a woman who is in her early 20s and five out of 10 in looks then someone who looks like she is in her in her early 30s and seven out of 10 in looks. It seems like you have your own worldview built-up that you are not open to changin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:23 AM
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Sure I can agree that some women learn how to manipulate men as they age (what you describe as “cashing” their beauty) and as a result they get better results as they get older. That still doesn’t mean the wall doesn’t exist. It’s like saying a male pickup artist who learns how female psychology works and what women respond to gets better results at age 35 than when he was inexperienced at age 20 and didn’t have a clue about women. He didn’t magically become more attractive by learning pickup. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 11:08 PM
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The wall is real, but women don’t really perceive it. They’d rather just delude themselves into thinking it’s not real and attack anyone who suggests otherwise. Men are mostly attracted to youthful appearance. But when women rate other women they tend to instead value things like confidence, healthy skin, good fashion sense. I have found my girlfriend saying certain women are so attractive when I find them downright repulsive. I have literally seen women who look like they are 40 claim that they…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:41 PM
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Depends on the area. At malls or movie theaters maybe around 70-80% of young guys I see are attractive. But if I go somewhere like Best Buy it would be something like 15-20% with over 50% of them being downright hideous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 04:09 AM
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you don't mention exactly what makes him look so unattractive now. I think the reason a lot of people say men age like fine wine is that the things that make unattractive with age are just things that correlate with age but don't really indicate age itself. for example getting fat, balding, etc. but the thing that makes women unattractive as they age is aging of the face itself. the only way to counteract that is to just age slower which is much harder to control. I think aging of the body can b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:01 PM
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oh really why don't u try asking random chicks about their opinion of george floyd and see what they think?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:27 PM
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all the guys who look like the first one work at essential jobs. no guy who looks like the second one does. it's not just about thinness it's also about how you dress and your hairstyle too. and i doubt the second guy is married
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:39 AM
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few women? literally every chick i've spoken to is like this. even my mom and sister are feminists but they defended a guy who pointed a gun at a pregnant women and was high on drugs. wtf???
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:44 AM
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I never see those "essential worker" guys in relationships unless they decide to become a betabuxx when they're 30 and end up miserable like this guy i saw at costco. most guys do not find this type of relationship appealing: https://imgur.com/a/Hibj80C#IUDuBK3 i never ever see the gen z under 25 version of that guy in a relationship. on the other hand, the more attractive guys i almost never see working at those menial "essential" jobs end up like this guy instead with a younger girl who mainta…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:35 AM
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marriage <> a woman who belongs to me. the modern day version of marriage is nothing like the version from generations ago that conservative guys keep pushing for. whenever conservative men give other men practical advice they always recommend them to not get (legally) married.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 12:00 AM
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i have noticed that a certain group of women (those social media obsessed "baddie" types) are actually attracted to men who are assholes and not just confidence alone. I also don't agree that confidence in isolation makes someone attractive. Indian guys tend to be the most confident but they still aren't seen as attractive. it has to be confidence in someone you're actually attracted to that can be used as a kind of force multiplier. But usually guys only say women are attracted to assholes in r…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:25 PM
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lmao why do women frame marriage like it's something men actually want or desire. when was the last time you've seen a guy obsess over what kinda suit he will wear or the type of decorations to have on his wedding, or a guy obsessing over how and when he is going to propose to his girlfriend in front of the eiffel tower. why is it that whenever you see someone on reddit complain about their partner not wanting marriage despite dating for so long it's always a woman who complains and not the man.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 07:17 PM
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of course nobody says that directly. but if you're struggling to get into a relationship the first thing people (especially women) will imply is that you have a bad personality or you're a misogynist instead of blaming your physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 03:33 AM
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women will say this but then have a problem when guys don't wanna date anyone who has had casual sex before. if it's so difficult to get casual sex then why are so many women having it and not wanting to be judged for it when they wanna settle down and get married
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 07:52 AM
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Are u fucking serious 😹 it’s not rocket science. Men just find younger women more physically attractive. Having less life experience doesn’t magically make your face or body more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:37 AM
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Did you even read my comment? I said the main reason they may want to date younger women is because they find them more attractive. How does wanting to date someone who is in less of a rush to settle down and have kids somehow equate to being more willing to put up with bullshit and being immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:34 AM
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tbh the issue i have is with people making assumptions about why a man would want to date a younger woman. most of the time i hear women saying stuff like the only reason a man would want to date a younger women is because she is easier to manipulate and how older women can "see through their bullshit", when in reality it's because they just tend to find younger women more attractive or how they might be in less of a rush to settle down and have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 03:30 AM
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yeah and it's also nearly always "safer" to not date guys who are out of your league if you don't wanna get abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:33 PM
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lmao 😹 that's like saying just because people get hurt in car accidents while wearing a seatbelt it means it's totally safe for me to never wear a seatbelt. then when some drunk driver hits me while driving and i get thrown out the front windshield and become paralyzed from the waist down, i just start whining whenever someone tells me i should have worn a seatbelt. "Wahhh!!! 😖stop victim blaming !!! it's the drunk driver's fault, not mine 😭"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:21 PM
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yes of course it's the man's fault if he abuses a woman. how is that even a question? you don't think physical abuse is a crime?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:49 PM
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The solution is different for men and women, and it depends on what they want out of a relationship. Some women would rather be with an abusive man who is out of her league because they prioritize attraction more than how the man treats them. Other women prioritize treatment over attraction. Some women just choose to remain single. Yes many redpillers do complain about being settled for. For those men the solution is to become more sexually attractive to women so they can find a woman who priori…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:41 PM
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abusive men specifically seek out less attractive women so they can abuse them. they don't date women on their own level because they don't give them what they want. non-abusive men choose to date women on their own level because they know she wil stay with them
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:21 PM
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if he was an abusive person then he wouldn't be dating someone on his own level in the first place...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:13 PM
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if he's dating someone on his own level he is not an abuser because the woman can easily leave and find another guy equally as attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:08 PM
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First of all i never said that. i said that many men choose to date women who are less attractive than themselves because they know those women don't have any better option and will even stay in an abusive relationship as long as he is attractive. The attractive men who aren't like this choose to date women who are on their own level, not uglier women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 01:53 PM
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I was never talking about those mail order bride scams. I was talking about real life. Look at Kash Patel. Literally everyone thinks his girlfriend is an Israeli spy and doesn’t genuinely love him. Same with Trump and Melania. Ugly men in relationships with attractive women get pushed into marriage and used for money or some other nefarious reason and nobody is afraid to admit it. When was the last time you seen a 7/10 white guy marry and have kids with a 3/10 Indian or southeast Asian woman? It…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:04 PM
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Typical, ignore someone when they dont agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:51 PM
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"their" nature? who is they? All men? Or a small subset of men who are violent? Most men are not bad people. But most of the people who can hurt a woman physically are men. Either you can choose to avoid dating men altogether, or you can take a calculated risk which is what most women do. The problem here is that women use the wrong characteristics to vet men. Women who are in relationships with men out of their league turn around and complain when they get pumped and dumped, cheated on, or phys…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:51 PM
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"one of the worst things that can happen to a person." Definitely not one of the worst things that can happen to men. I was raped and I find it much less traumatizing than getting cucked by a woman. Getting cucked was at least 10x worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:37 PM
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yes, absolutely. I don't know about other countries, but it's definitely true here in the US. Many highly attractive men only date women who are less attractive than them so that they can be abusive towards her and knows she will not leave him because she doesn't have any better option. in fact, I don't think I've heard of any incident where an unattractive guy was abusive towards an attractive woman except for the gabby petito case. It's so rare that when it does happen, it makes national news.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:17 PM
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People definitely do not respond the same to both men and women. I have never once seen a man get coddled by his friends for suffering the consequences of a stupid decision. Just create a fake post on reddit of some man who gets scammed by a woman who is way out of his league vs a woman who gets pumped and dumped by a man who is out of her league and see which one gets more empathy. And nobody is talking about the situations in which the red flags are hard to spot. Men don't empathize because wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:59 PM
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How can you say it's pathetic when you're not even a man? That's like me saying that feeling traumatized after being raped is pathetic...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:50 PM
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You can literally just google it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:48 PM
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You're a man and saying this? I find it hard to believe. If you're a woman, this is very insulting. It's like a woman telling a man how traumatized she is after being raped by her partner and a man telling her "sounds dramatic. I wish I got raped by my partner" or something of that sort... Do you see how tone deaf it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:40 PM
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it's called hyperbole
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:02 PM
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Yeah and??? Did even you read the post? If this happens to a girl everyone comes to her defense. Even the OP is like "OMG!!! it's impossible to see every red flag!! stop victim blaming!!!!" but if this happens to a guy nobody gives a shit. it's like if i was a ugly 5'3 indian guy and some 8/10 white girl starts dating me. a few months later i find out she steals my bank account details and withdraws all my money and runs away to Belarus. Then my friends come to me and they're like "OMGG bro I'm …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 07:17 PM
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But most women don't want casual sex. They want commitment. And most women don't want to be stuck in an abusive relationship with a violent man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 06:56 PM
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Are you serious? 😹Say I just graduated from highschool and have no work experience or training. I got a job offer that pays $250K a year and think it might be a scam. Maybe they're just trying to steal my personal information and use it for identity theft... According to you "OMG!! What does getting scammed have to do with your level work of experience? The scammers are likely scamming everyone who submits a job offer! Not just the ones with zero experience...." But i am not surprised, I have tw…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 06:46 PM
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Only 20-30% of women are like you. the other 70-80% are pretending to be like you but actually have double standards for hot guys vs below average guys. It's like pressing a magic button that has an 80% chance of killing you but a 20% chance of giving you a million dollars. Why would any sane and healthy person press that button? regarding your second point. Yes, you can show interest in a man through things other than sex. Most guys are ok waiting for sex as long as the girl held the same stand…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 05:07 PM
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I was seeing a girl for 2 months who wanted to take things slow. she was not even comfortable hugging me. Then later she randomly blurted on the side that she hooked up with some guy in Vegas 2 weeks ago on a trip. After that I stopped seeing her. So much for emotional connection. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:38 PM
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A lot of men say this in response to hypocrisy in how women actually vet men. From my experience they vet based on attractiveness, not on how things that would better predict how dangerous the man actually is. It would be like me meeting a 10/10 blonde in private on the very first meeting even though i'm only 4/10 and then getting shocked egen i get robbed and beaten.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 01:28 PM
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So where do you draw the line? Is it not reckless to go around in the hood flashing your rolex? How about going to North Korea and making fun of Kim Jong Un in public? I found it strange how women simultaneously claim that the world is so dangerous for them, yet at the same time find it insulting when you suggest them actions they can take to avoid becoming a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 07:15 AM
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I asked you this question first. once you answer my question I will answer yours. This is the fifth time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:36 PM
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Again, you did not answer my question. I will respond to you once you’ve answered mine. This is the fourth time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:31 PM
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I never mentioned anything at all about sex workers. All I asked you is how other developed countries managed to provide their citizens with affordable healthcare without somehow having to enslave people that’s all I asked. why the US is not able to do this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:28 PM
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I never implied anything about sex workers. again you did not answer my question
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:25 PM
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You did not answer my question. once you do I will respond. I will ask you again. How do other developed countries manage to provide their citizens with affordable healthcare without somehow having to enslave their citizens and force doctors to provide services at gunpoint?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:23 PM
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Are you saying that they are not disadvantaged even in the slightest?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:19 PM
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By your logic, the only way to get affordable healthcare is to literally enslave students and forced them to study medicine at gunpoint. Tell me how does every modern economy except for the United States managed to provide its citizens with affordable healthcare without enslaving people?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:12 PM
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They are completely equivalent. Slavery is just as bad as rape. You are free to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 10:57 PM
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are poor people disadvantaged if healthcare isn't distributed like cookies?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 10:46 PM
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then they can just escape out the front door and ask someone else to dial 911 for them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:15 AM
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all they have to do is dial 911...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:40 AM
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what's stopping them from getting a job as an uber eats driver or whatever...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:31 AM
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I feel that we should have affodardable healthcare "Omgg!! does that mean you wanna force doctors to work for free!! Life isn't fair!!!"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:46 PM
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i agree. most men are immature about this. the problem is many men go by what women say and not what they do. most women who have different standards for hot men won't admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:59 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 04:00 AM
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not true for me. I've had sex with only 4 different women, maybe less than 20 times in total, and it's still awkward and confusing. it was only easy with the first two women because they were sexually experienced. with the most recent two it was super awkward and difficult due to lack of experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 06:17 AM
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wouldn't you eventually find out when he tries to get intimate and has no idea what he's doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 05:11 AM
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i agree with you actually. i don't think women should cater to men's insecurities. my anger is directed instead towards my parents for deciding to give birth to me. one thing i do have a problem with is women who automatically assume that a man who is sexually unattractive to women is a bad person. Having a small penis, being short, being bald, and having a recessed maxilla do not make you a bad person. They should also apply this principle to women for things that make them insecure or lower th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 05:58 PM
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I think you’re deliberately pretending to not understand what an implicit social contract is. There is no concept of “he wants to treat her worse”. It’s like claiming people who donate money to charity only do so for the clout and to appear as a good person. A man could also claim with that logic that a woman who only wants to have sex with him if he loves her is just using sex as a bargaining tool to extract resources and labor from the him. And are you serious? A woman can’t control her sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:35 PM
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Maybe not for you. Many women want to settle down with a guy like this because it’s their best option.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:24 PM
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It’s not attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:21 PM
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Assuming you’re a 3/10 and I’m also a 3/10, I will treat you well if you exercised restraint in the past and didn’t have sex with 6/10 or 7/10 men. But if you willingly had sex with men who are out of your league then I will not enter into a serious relationship with you or marry you in the first place because it feels humiliating to me. As for why any woman would wanna be with me in the first place? Because many women in their late 20s and early 30s have baby rabies. They want to settle down, g…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 02:15 PM
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i can't tell if you're serious or joking. relationships are an implicit social contract. this is how it works for everyone and it applies to so many other things in life. if i go to dick's sporting goods and i pay double price for a basketball because Im 5'5. but another man comes in and because he's over six feet tall they give him the basketball for free, why the heck would i ever want to shop there again? I would rather shop at a store that holds the same standards for all its customers. So y…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:37 PM
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i am not a celebrity and dating a woman 10 years younger than me... i am 32 she is 22
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 01:11 PM
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i never seen a 50 year old who looks 20. can you give me some examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 07:24 AM
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as a 4/10 indian american dude myself. i found it quite easy to get into short term long distance relationships with indian women living in india. i have met 4 of them in person so far in India. all of them wanted to kiss me right away, with 2 did some sexual stuff (hj, bj, etc), and with one i had piv. there was also one korean girl i met but she was super obese like 300 lbs and i didn't like it. if i had only tried to date indian american women here in the US i'd be a KHHV. the most important …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 06:21 PM
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i agree with you actually. both men and women decline in looks as they get older. i guess it just happens faster for women than it does for men. usually around 25-30 for women and 30-40 for men is when the decline starts IMO. And i think men judge women for the appearance of their age than women judge men. a 35 year old man who looks 35 isn't inherently unattractive but the same is true for women. There are some women who remain attractive into their 30s and 40s but IMO they just look younger th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:08 PM
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breeding is not an objective function but sexual satisfaction is
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 09:31 AM
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any intelligent agent will not rationally work to change its own objective function
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 09:22 AM
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1) there are plenty of men who benefit from women having more freedom (HTN+ or the top 30-40% of men in looks). 2) there are cucks/simps (maybe 10-15% of men) who think that defending women will make them look good and get them brownie points. 3) the elites benefit economically from having women participate in the labor market. They control the media and tech platforms.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:30 PM
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he's not missing anymore he lives with them...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 10:45 AM
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no she didn't date anybody else before getting married to my dad
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 09:53 AM
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are women helpless or what?? if a man is pushing her to do something she doesn't want to do, it means the two of them are fundamentally incompatible and she should leave the relationship. this has nothing to do with his age. Men who are the same age can push women to do things they don't agree to all the time. the first guy my ex was with pushed her to have sex even though she wasn't ready and they were of the same age. he ended up dumping her and left her traumatized which is all too common. al…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:00 AM
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you don't, but the chick i was replying to thinks age gap automatically implies there is grooming.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:39 AM
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she was not single my dad worked out of state so i lived alone with her and my sister
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:23 AM
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yes the maxilla recedes with age in both genders, faster in women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:19 AM
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i don't think we actually disagree on anything
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:17 AM
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the same also applies to close in age relationships. there can be shitty people of all ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 03:16 AM
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So all guys use women for sex regardless of their age? If that's the case then what's the difference between a 30 year old doing it and a 19 year old?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 02:31 AM
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oftentimes frat bros will lie to girls about being serious because they're just horny and want sex. the girl is pressured into having sex only to left feeling used, lied to, and traumatized. are you saying this is somehow better than her dating a 30 year old guy who wants to date her normally becuse he finds her attractive and doesn't just wanna have sex and leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 01:18 AM
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how is that any different from an arrogant frat boy her own age finding her attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 12:48 AM
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what if he just finds her attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 12:45 AM
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but why?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 12:42 AM
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i wonder if someone who is afraid of certain racial minorities is justified in using the same logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 12:20 AM
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is anyone who disagrees with you automatically a shitty parent?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 12:16 AM
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i never said i'm a prize...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 12:14 AM
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if i had a daughter id say the same
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 12:13 AM
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for me it is i'm 32 and basically raised her with my mom
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 12:07 AM
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not if he's dating casually only. why on earth would a talk attractive man want to become a beta provider?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:55 PM
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you're not understanding. to make it simple u can divide women into two categories. type A) she is not promiscuous, dates to marry from the very beginning. doesn't date casually no matter how attractive the guy is. this is the category you belong to. type B) Date tall attractive guys when she's you g from 18-22, then when she's older from 25-35 she gets desperate to find a guy to settle down with. Type B women in over age 25 often lie and pretend to be type A when they're really not. this is the…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:49 PM
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All of the things you listed for men are not directly correlated with aging. tons of men don't go bald with age. tons of men don't get fat with age. Regarding all the things women to do mitigate aging, it doesn't work. Women only do these things to look more attractive to themselves and other women, not to look more attractive to men. In the eyes of men, even an average 22 year old girl with zero makeup is more physically attractive than a 40 year old woman who is super fit, dresses well, and is…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:46 PM
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i was not referring to age... i was referring to why guys "judge" you for saying you're a virgin. in their head they're thinking that means you won't have sex with them and then they are left wondering if you're actually telling the truth or if you're lying because you don't want him to expect sex from you in exchange for investing in a relationship. older women who are desperate to settle down and get married are much more likely to do this than younger women who are not in such a big rush.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:32 PM
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Most men would rather not risk being deceived by some high body count woman who claims thay she's a virgin so that he doesn't expect to sleep with her. this is exactly what my ex did. in the past most guys would have been okay with this because it was the social norm for people to have only one partner their entire life. if you are telling the truth, women like you are paying the price for the dishonesty of other women like my ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:17 PM
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i would rather my 19 yr old sister date a successful 30 yo guy who wants a younger girl to settle down with than some arrogant frat boy her own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:13 PM
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The two things are not comparable. the things that make men unattractive as they age are all fixable or can be easily mitigated. For hairloss you can get a hair transplant. for a beer belly you can stop being lazy, hit the gym for 2 years and track your macros. for out of date fashion styles you can literally just invite some random gay guy to go shopping with you and build you a wardrobe. The main two things that makes men unattractive to women are having a recessed jaw and being short. Neither…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:10 PM
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Most women in 2026 are not like you. Only around 12 to 18% of women have one sexual partner in their entire lifetime. but there are lots of women out there who either lie about or downplay the number of guys they have been with. i've even spoken to women who say they are virgins because they didn't do PIV with the guy but did everything else. WTF....
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 10:56 PM
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So you married the first guy you ever kissed?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 10:50 PM
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sperm is cheap but the effort required to deposit the sperm is not cheap at all
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 10:46 PM
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Attraction matters a lot in the beginning of a relationship and as your bond grows stronger it matters less and less. It’s especially important for women who have been with a lot of guys before. I don’t wanna marry some chick who was more physically attracted to her past partners than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 10:44 PM
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Seriously? “More than just” attraction??? You do realize that at least half of all dudes out there are completely unattractive to their wife and their wife would never even have sex with them unless she was sure he would marry her and give her tons of attention, care, affection, etc. For a huge chunk of couples out there sex is an implicit transaction. Ask yourself if you would have sex with your husband if he didn’t love you. Now ask yourself if the husband would do same if you were willing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 10:36 PM
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The mental gymnastics women use is hilarious. I wonder if women overwhelmingly choose to be with tall handsome men because they “have so much in common”. “Wowww you grew to six feet! 😱I went through puberty and had a growth spurt too! I went from 4’11 to 5’4 when I was 12! We have so much in common!!! Let’s get married 😍”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 10:25 PM
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i do see average height non-hispanic guys "dating" but they are at the upper end of average like 5'11 and 6'0.. not low average like 5'8-5'9. i can DM you examples of what i mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:08 PM
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when i go out in public i literally don't see non-hispanic guys under 5'11 in normal relationships. I am 5'9 and the only guys my height i see in relationships are beta providers in their 30s and 40s. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:29 PM
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haha let's see someone do that online on mainstream platforms and not get insta banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:27 PM
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let's see you make fun of a black guy for his race. of course liberals would never do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:33 PM
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not all women but a lot of women, particularly those who are interested in long term relationships with below average men, do not enjoy sex with them. they just do it because he loves her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:46 PM
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Why would a man want a woman who doesn’t value sex and sees sex as the cost of being in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:17 AM
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"Why would I want to be around a guy who has such a fragile ego? My man could have been with supermodels before me and I wouldn’t give two shits. What matters is how he’s treating me now, but you guys don’t care about. You care whether or not she’s validating your penis." It's hilarious how adamant women are about projecting their own desires onto men and getting agitated when told that men don't value the same things as women do in a long term relationship. using phrases like "validating your p…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:14 AM
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The problem is that society completely lies to women about what men want in a long term relationship. Either that or they're completely delusional. Here is what women think men should want in a long term relationship: 1) Someone who earns as much as he does 2) Someone shorter than him 3) Someone slightly younger than him 4) Someone who is ready to settle down and get married fast 5) Someone he finds special, completely different from any other girl he has met before Here is what men actually wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:26 AM
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tbh ur the only chick on this post who gave a realistic answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:38 AM
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Because she may have a very high libido and want to try it with a variety of different men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/26 09:40 PM
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if there is a closed environment with 10 males and 10 females. if all 10 of the men have sex with only one of the females, most of the women will still not have any increase in body count. only one of the woman will have an increase in body count. if that woman has a body count of 100 before vs 110 later it makes no difference in how men view her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 10:10 PM
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i have a low body count. i would not marry a high body count woma unless she is very rich. but i'm ok being in a relationship with her even if she isn't rich as long as she's very sexually attracted to me and the relationship starts out as a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 03:40 AM
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in my opinion no guy should be friends with a woman until he can make himself sexually attractive. becoming friends with a woman means he will feel constantly humiliated that she doesn't want him and he has to see her day and day again go for other guys
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 01:27 AM
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Haha as a guy I feel the same. I am 32 and my gf is 29. On dating apps I kept meeting women who were super mature and when I met them in person it felt like I was talking to someone 10 years older than me, both in appearance and demeanor. Then I finally met my gf and I was glad to have finally met someone whose vibe matched with mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:04 AM
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If Moses in IT was really that desirable then you would see guys who look like Moses going to Ibiza or Cancun to go party it up and hookup with random chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 06:29 AM
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this is the main reason i don't wanna get married
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:43 PM
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lmfao how is this even a job. men have reached a new low.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 04:47 PM
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Wow! you're saying that there is a much larger set of men that women would hook up with compared to the set of men they would consider for a long term relationship or marriage. really?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:52 AM
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No dude wants to be in a relationship with a girl who wouldn’t wanna hook up with him
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 11:23 PM
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the best way to identify someone with a low cognitive ability is to make a generalized statement about a group and then see someone bring up an exception to that generalized statement as if it somehow proves anything "b-b-but my obese infertile female friend was able to find her tall millionaire dream bf so therefore you're wrong!"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 03:09 AM
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it's less humiliating to go see a prostitute at that point...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 01:29 AM
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being in no relationship at all is better than being in a relationship with a woman who wouldn't want to hook up with you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 01:29 AM
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if women wanted to hook up with guys who were financially stable then sure we would say that women don't really care much about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 01:28 AM
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these things 1) earning a lot less money than me 2) having more sexual experience than me or being less sexually attracted to me than she was towards of her past partners 3) being an extrovert
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 01:25 AM
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Nobody says that she has to fuck me. But I’m going to assume if he doesn’t that she’s not attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 02:25 PM
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exactly. men want to date women who are attracted to them. Usually women have sex earlier with men. They are attracted to it and make men wait if they're not really attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 02:18 PM
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i was with a girl who didn't even wanna kiss me after 3 months and she has hooked up with dudes before the same day she met them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 05:05 AM
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One month is fine.. I’m talking about 2-3 months plus
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 08:12 PM
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there's nothing wrong with that but this is why many guys decide to stop pursuing the woman if she doesn't put out right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 02:36 PM
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I don’t really see what the big deal is. If they are really so grossed out they can instead work at McDonald’s or deliver for Uber Eats like everyone else… Even Amazon hires people with no experience for like $18 an hour at their warehouse. Or they could just work as a babysitter or waitress. There are tons of shelters out there available for women only. The only way I could see it happening forcefully is if the woman got kidnapped or trafficked or something, but in that case all she’s gotta do …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 09:01 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 01:33 PM
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Oh gotcha, yeah I'm not in favor of anyone shaming women for being clear about what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:20 AM
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I don't know a single man who who "complains" about women who treats dating like a job interview if he is also on the same page and ready to get married and settle down. Usually it's on the men who don't want to settle down yet and can't find a female partner in their age range who wants the same thing. What has been your experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:14 AM
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I am not complaining. What you interpret as complaining is really just incompatibility. There is nothing wrong with treating the dating process like a job interview. In fact it's quite normal when you are ready to get married and settle down that you use a different set of criteria to select your partner compared to your first few relationships. Using your head more than your heart leads to better long term happiness in a marriage. There are also some people out there who treat dating like a job…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:06 AM
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In the context of dating, yes dating experience is stage of life. I don’t wanna date someone who has already dated a dozen people before me and just wants to settle down and get married right away. I want to experience being in love the way people do for the first or second time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 05:07 PM
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How do you know that? Many men out there around my age have little to no dating experience at all. For women it’s much more rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 04:48 PM
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Never thought id meet someone with a grammar fetish 😹
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 04:13 PM
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You think lack of punctuation is a bigger turn off than a someone who doesn’t even want to hug you or kiss you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 04:01 PM
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Not really. I only kissed one girl before the 19 year old. so I don’t have that much relationship experience. I would rather date someone who is at a similar stage of life as me
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:57 PM
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Yes you are right. I never actually felt this until I was in a relationship with someone much younger than me (she was 19, I was 30) I can’t speak for all guys, but I think the main reason I prefer younger women is that they are more carefree, impulsive and in less of a rush to get married and settle down. They also seem to invest more in their appearance and dress better. For guys who are late bloomers and want to just date casually and experience having a girlfriend for some time before settli…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 08:33 AM
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So what do you suggest they do. Should they continue to try dating here in the US where nobody wants to have sex with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 02:51 PM
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Lmao prostitutes don’t care about you either but people still go to them. What’s your point? Going to India for a week cost me only $800-$1200. I can afford to do it 4-5x a year and my gf living over there actually wants to kiss me and have sex with me. She also buys me lots of clothes and gifts. On the other hand here in the US, barely anyone off dating apps even wanted to hug me, let alone have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 03:10 AM
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Imagine if we stopped people from reproducing who were genetically predisposed to developing breast cancer, and then framed it in a good way, as if we are somehow “weeding them out” from the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 08:15 PM
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I don't want to be with a woman who has had casual sex or casual relationships with guys in the past, but when it comes to me she wants me to wait 6 months and jump through hoops just to hug her so that she's absolutely sure I'm not "using her" for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 10:48 AM
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So do you think they would be happier being bitter with a 0.01% chance of attracting someone they like. Or pretending not to be bitter and denying reality with a 0.02% chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 05:50 AM
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We were in a long distance relationship for a while but i don’t think our personalities aligned. She is one of those bubbly super extroverted and confident girls whereas I’m a little bit shy. Also she kept trying to control me and not let me have any female friends even tho she had a bunch of male friends. Anyways we went on one date. But to be honest it was the best date I ever had.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 12:35 AM
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No I didn’t lie about my age to any of them. The one I met was 19 and I was 30
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:58 PM
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I am 31 and I look like I am around 27. There were 4 girls interested in me who were 19-20 and I met one of them in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:59 PM
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Big respect to you for being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 06:08 AM
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Me personally, I do feel love and a desire for a long term relationship. But that completely goes out the window if I know that the girl I am interested in was less sexually restrained with her previous partners than with me. For example my current gf had sex with her first bf within just 1 month of meeting him, and she would meet up with him for sex only in a hotel around once a month. He never even took her out on a single date. When I found out about this, any kind of romantic feelings I had …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 12:35 AM
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Why would I bother some random woman trying to go about with her day? It's plain rude. The only socially acceptable time to ask a woman out is when it's clear that she is interested in you, which for Sub 5 men is basically never.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:30 PM
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WTF. what you are saying is nonsense. I don't know a single married woman who'd agree to have sex with her 4/10 beta-male husband if he divorced her and only wanted sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:43 PM
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Can men use the same dyphemisms for people who expect them to enter into a long term relationship in order to have sex? What is the equivalent dyphemism a woman who is not sexually attracted to a man and just agrees to have sex so that she can secure a long term relationship with him? How about for the women who deliberately hide their sexual past so that the man is more likely to commit?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:41 PM
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Why do women use dyphemisms like "getting your dick wet" when they really just mean "have sex"? Why can't you just say "just so you can have sex?" Moreover, if a man primarily wants to have sex but is willing to be in a relationship to get it, what is wrong with that? How is it lying or being an asshole? Why doesn't anyone say the same for women who use sex as a tool to secure a long term relationship? Why can't we call them lying cunts for pretending to be sexually attracted to their husbands j…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:27 PM
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You really think your experience is the norm? Why don't you take an average 4/10 looking 5'9 guy and create two dating profiles for him. On one, put on his bio that he's looking for a long term relationship. On the other profile, put "something casual". Now tell me which one gets more matches... You can do the exact same for a 6/10 high tier normie and you'll get the same results.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:24 PM
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The logic you used is very simple. You claim that you find your husband sexually attractive. If this is true, this would mean you would still want to have sex with him even if he divorced you and was no longer in a relationship . But I am betting that you wouldn’t. The fact that you will only have sex with your husband IF he is in a committed relationship with you tells me you don’t find him sexually attractive. Similarly, if you decided one day to never have sex with your husband again, and you…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:52 PM
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Did your husband start out as a casual hookup in which sex occurred very early? If not, then you are not sexually attracted to him (according to your logic, not mine). You implied earlier that men who use being nice as a tool to get sex don’t actually want to be nice in the first place. They just want sex. Why don’t you call women out who do the female equivalent? This is your anti-male bias right here
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:46 PM
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I don’t care about OP’s post or the fact that chads can get sex without having to be in a committed relationship. I am responding to the lady who painting that being nice to get sex makes you some kind of evil person. Why the fuck does no one ever call out the women who do the female equivalent? (Using sex as a tool to secure a relationship)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:39 PM
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Yes completely. If a woman claims that she finds her long term partner sexually attractive, but only agrees to have sex with him if she thinks the guy wants to commit to her long term, she is 100% using sex as a tool to secure the relationship according to the same logic you use for men. She does not find him sexually attractive. A simple litmus test would be to ask yourself how many men would agree to a relationship with no sex at all. Zero sex whatsoever. I’d guess less than 10% of men in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:31 PM
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The point completely went over your head. Most women ONLY agree to have sex with average men if they think man wants a long term relationship with her and actually loves her. Why does nobody ever accuse these women of using sex as a means of securing a relationship the same way the person I was responding to was accusing men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:28 PM
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You said a bunch of bullshit and didn’t answer my actual question. I’ll ask again… If a woman feels used for agreeing to have sex with a guy who she thought loved him, but in reality he just wanted sex, isn’t she just using sex to secure a relationship? (It’s a simple yes or no question) question 2: Why or why not? If
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:18 PM
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You are strawmanning me. I never said ALL women do this. Just most of them. And this ONLY applies to average men, not chads. To answer your question, if most women were not using sex to get a relationship, why would they agree to have sex with an average guy only if they’re certain he wants to commit to them long term? Why would they feel used if he was faking his desire for commitment? If they really wanted sex for the sake of sex, they wouldn’t feel used at all. They’d just enjoy sex with the …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:13 PM
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You did not respond to the main point. Typical. Would you agree that a woman who feels used for having sex with a guy who doesn’t actually love her is really just using sex as a way to get a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:07 PM
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Lmao imagine if men used the same bullshit logic. Why do you think women feel used when they have sex with a guy who pretends to love them but he just wanted sex and dumps her when she wants to get married or stops having sex. Why don’t they feel used if the guy actually loves her? The man could just as easily claim that the woman wasn’t actually sexually attracted to him. She was just “using sex to get a relationship” according to your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:04 PM
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fucking retarded. Of course normal people do this every day. Have you ever heard of something called a vlog? Writing in all caps won’t change the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:26 PM
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Just start hanging out with grannies bro 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:08 PM
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Most people have a strong anti-male bias but on Reddit it’s at an extreme level. It’s as if this platform somehow only attracts the most man-hating people from the general population . Just go on the amitheasshole subreddit. 90% of the time when it’s a relationship issue, the male is labelled as the asshole no matter what the female did, unless what the woman did is extreme
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 01:49 PM
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You seriously have issues with basic reading comprehension. OP made this post in response to the delusional women who claim that sexual harassment is a near universal experience for the entire female sex. There is no equivalent group of men who claims that it’s difficult to get dates for the entire male gender. If there was then your hypothetical would have been valid
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:05 AM
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It's unfortunate for you. My only suggestion would be to try and date guys within your local community who know you from a long time. They'll be more likely to know for sure that you haven't had sex with anyone yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:36 AM
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Here's the problem. Most women who claim they are virgins are just lying. This is an easy way for non-virgin women to get their male counterpart to agree for waiting until marriage to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:24 AM
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Because it fucking happens no matter what part of the US I go to. that's why
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:04 AM
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If I am saying I don’t see guys under 5’11 getting affection from their girlfriends in the US, the only way to prove that it’s an exception to the rule would be to go outside and record what the couples in your local area look like. This is what any normal person would do if they truly believed that what they’re saying is true. On the other hand, you keep beating around the bush. First you say I have a weird fetish, resort to name calling, stalking my profile, etc. You’re full of shit
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:33 AM
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What percentage of women are shallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 01:07 AM
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Again just personal attacks and nothing to do with my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 11:25 PM
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Oh so trying to prove I’m wrong automatically becomes a “weird fetish” again typical of bluepillers. They use shaming language against the other person. I could also call you a feminist cuck but I wouldn’t stoop that low.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:14 PM
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What evidence do you have other than your own personal anecdote? I at least have a photograph. You have nothing. I am so confident in my beliefs that even if YOU took the video with all your potential biases I’m still sure the video will prove ME right. This entire process will take you less than 10 minutes yet you still don’t want to do it. This is how I know you’re full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 03:13 PM
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I hear you saying a lot of meaningless bullshit buzzwords like "weirdo","misogynist", "racism", and very little actual substance. Again if you don't believe me and want to prove me wrong, just record the couples in your local area and show me them. Everything you are saying is just a pathetic excuse. If you really believed in what you were saying you'd do the experiment and show me the results. So far no bluepiller on reddit has been willing to prove me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 07:20 AM
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I want kids, but only if I can provide them with good genetics. My plan is to pay some agreeable 135 IQ 6 foot tall gigastacy to donate her eggs and then use IVF and a surrogate mother to have the baby. I will raise the kid(s) on my own as a single dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 01:21 AM
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Typical blue pill response. Vilify the other person (i.e. call them a creep or weirdo) instead of explaining why they are wrong. The reason you don’t want to do this experiment is you know deep down inside, the results will prove I am right.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:44 PM
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I don’t care how many people you know. When you go out in public (assuming you’re living in the US), take notice of all the young couples you see where the girl is very affectionate towards her bf (like the girl in this photo is towards her bf: https://i.imgur.com/PyAgyY6.jpeg ) this would mean she is leaning against him or walking very close to him, teasing him, etc. Now look at the guys in these relationships and take a rough guess at their height. Count the number of guys you see under 5’11 v…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 04:06 PM
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Dude I don’t fucking care about exceptions to the rule. Go out in public where you live and record a video of what the young couples there look like (it could be a mall, movie theater, or college campus, doesn’t matter). Post the video to YouTube and show me the link. I can guarantee the men in affectionate relationships in your video are going to nearly all be 5’11 or above unless they’re Hispanic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:45 PM
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Are u calling me fucking stupid or what. This is not rocket science. This is some random tall dude I saw at Costco with his gf. https://i.imgur.com/PyAgyY6.jpeg I only see a short guy get this kind of treatment from his gf in public if he is Hispanic. Maybe once a year I might see an exception but exceptions don’t make the rule. I see average height or above men get this kind of treatment from their gf literally every day when I go out. And when women grow past the age of 25 they mostly stop giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:39 PM
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Again you do have major issues with understanding basic logic. If I wasn’t going out, how tf am I seeing so many young non-Hispanic guys in relationships who are over 5’11? Do you somehow think only the ones over 5’11 are breaking into my house with their girlfriends and the ones under 5’11 are the ones going out? EDIT: okay you edited your comment after I replied. Fuck no I am not gonna go to a college campus like some creep. I am 31 years old. But you can easily watch any video of an American …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:31 PM
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Fair enough. If I start to see more guys like your sons then I’ll change my opinion. Until then I won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:29 PM
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Btw how old are your kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:27 PM
2

Do you have some issues with reading comprehension or what??
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 10:57 AM
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What’s wrong with noticing patterns?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:36 AM
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If you don’t believe me, go out in public and record what the young couples in your area look like and post the results on YouTube. once you’re done send me the link
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:35 AM
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If you don’t believe me, go out in public and record what the young couples in your area look like
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:34 AM
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are you saying men under 25 don't date?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:27 AM
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Why is it that when I go out in public, I pretty much never see a non-hispanic guy under the age of 25 in a relationship unless he is at least 5'11. The few that I do see in relationships, the girl is never affectionate towards them The girl is always walking alongside the guy, sitting away from him, or if she is making any kind of physical contact, it looks forced (i.e. she isn't leaning in towards the guy). In other words, you won't see guys under 5'11 getting this kind of treatment from their…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 05:59 AM
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Sorry but bad decisions make women unattractive for a long term relationship, especially if the guy she is interested in for a long term relationship is sexually and socially inexperienced himself. It’s not about “cutting her some slack”. It’s about dating women according to your own preferences and no one else’s. Why don’t you tell women to cut men slack for being short or ugly? Women had complete control over the decisions they made in their youth. Men have zero control over their height or fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:24 PM
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The government provides disability money to crippled people so that they can buy wheelchairs and crutches and shit to help them walk. Medical insurance also covers majority of the cost for prosthetic limbs and forces able bodied people to pay for it. Research is done in biotech to help disabled people become functional. A disabled person today has a much better quality of life in managing their disability than a disabled person a century ago. There is no equivalent for sexually unattractive men.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:44 AM
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If no one wants to help crippled people walk then yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:35 AM
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It’s not illegal for crippled people to walk either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:32 AM
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Why aren’t rich people collectively promoting homelessness?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:55 AM
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Calling someone a “creep” when they did nothing wrong is bullying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 02:46 AM
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Absolutely not, I am asking you a simple question. Why is “consent” a valid reason to refuse a sexual partner, but not a valid reason for a business to refuse a customer? You say that businesses cannot discriminate because it’s against the law but that’s not what I’m asking. I am asking you why YOU think one is ok and not the other. If the law magically changed one day and made racial discrimination legal, would you think blacks who force racist business owners to serve them at gunpoint should b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:23 AM
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You’re talking is circles here and you keep changing the goalposts. At first you say anyone is entitled to anything as long as it’s legal. Now you’re saying the laws “had to be changed” to make racial discrimination illegal in the first place. Well if they “had to be changed” doesn’t it mean that just because something is legal doesnt necessarily mean it’s right? Here’s a much simpler question. If it’s okay for women to refuse to date a man for any reason, why isn’t it okay for a private busines…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:08 AM
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Wait so entitlement is all about the law? you’re saying men were entitled to rape their wives in the past because marital rape did not legally exist? Were white people also entitled to own slaves when it was legal? Were businesses entitled to discriminate based on race before the civil rights act?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:57 PM
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You say “for good reason” but you don’t explain why. Why should businesses be forced to provide services to races of people the owners aren’t comfortable with? Are black people entitled to eat at the same restaurants as whites, even if the owner doesn’t want them there? What if the owner only feels comfortable serving food to white people? It’s idiotic to force men with other men. Homosexuals cannot start families.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:51 PM
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You did not answer my question. Should businesses be allowed to refuse service to black people? Why or why not? Why on earth would I travel to India to get an arranged marriage? What does that have to do with my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:42 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:37 PM
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Should it legal to bully people?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:35 PM
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What kind of logic is this?? If I want to drive a BMW, does it HAVE to mean that I have to enjoy putting up with the insane maintenance that’s required to keep one running? I can’t just enjoy driving the BMW without enjoying the maintenance part?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:32 PM
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Fair enough. Do you think businesses should be allowed to refuse service to black people if the owner is a racist and does not consent to having black people in his establishment? If I am an Uber driver, should I be allowed refuse a passenger because he is black? If I am a real estate developer, should I be allowed to build neighborhoods in which black people are not allowed to live?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:26 PM
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Astounding you even can think like this. Demanding the government provide you something for free that you didn’t earn is the very definition of entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:19 PM
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You’re not allowed to pursue it in the first place without being labelled as a creep. Either make it 100% illegal for any kind of romantic interaction to take place between men and women outside of arranged marriage, or accept that ugly guys are also going to pursue physical contact with you. The only thing you can do is refuse but you can’t get angry at them for pursuing contact with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:17 PM
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Make it illegal for the bottom 50% of women to have sex, then I’ll talk to you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:14 PM
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Tell that to the people who think healthcare is a right and should be provided to them at the taxpayers expense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:14 PM
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This is only a modern phenomenon. In the past, sex took place only within marriage, and marital rape was not a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:13 PM
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Then no one should also be entitled safe food, healthcare, clean water, education, housing or public safety. People in 3rd world countries get by just fine without these. It’s okay. Most likely you’ll survive without them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:11 PM
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If you control for attractiveness, then the blackpill has the most success.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:08 PM
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So what is the solution? For women to have less freedom?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:07 PM
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Neither is healthcare. It requires the consent of the doctors and nurses who treat you. Neither is education. It requires the consent of teachers who teach you. Neither is a safe home. It requires the consent of your parents who paid for the house to house you in. Neither is food. It requires the consent of the farmer, grocery store employees, and truck drivers who bring the food to you. Consent is not the be-all end all. If all of a sudden a certain contingent of the population could not reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:06 PM
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No it isn’t. That’s the whole point. As an ugly man you’re not even allowed to pursue physical contact in the first place. You’re expected to be a good little betabuxx husband that is eager to get married and start a family. Wanting to date a woman because you’re sexually attracted to her is considered a big no-no. Nearly every single ugly guy I see in a betabuxx relationship is not getting any physical contact from his girlfriend or wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:59 PM
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Having sex is as much of a right for men as it is women. If women don’t want the bottom 50% of men having sex, the same should also apply to the bottom 50% of women. Make it illegal for the bottom 50% of women to have sex so that they’ll stop fucking chads and then we’ll talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:51 PM
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What’s wrong with being upset about being sexually unattractive to women??? Does being upset about it automatically make a man mentally ill?? Why tf do women always try to demonize men pursuing this one thing??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:46 PM
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How tf are you supposed to know it’s unwanted if you don’t pursue it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:38 PM
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Pursuing physical contact <> sexual assault
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:33 PM
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Pursing physical contact <> rape
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 10:11 PM
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Consent AKA ugly guys are not allowed to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:50 PM
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It’s not socially acceptable
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:07 PM
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“It’s giving creepy”… so descriptive lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:04 PM
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Then make it socially acceptable for men to want physical contact with women in their age range
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:03 PM
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They cannot say it because they’ll be labelled as wanting only sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:01 PM
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Unbelievable... it's creepy to ask a girl you've been dating for several months to talk in a more private area because it's too loud and noisy where you are now? There are literally women who sleep with guys on the first date and you are calling this creepy? WTF is wrong with you Karen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 03:41 PM
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I have had a woman I was dating for 6 months call me "creepy" for wanting to talk to her in a more private area when we were on a date so that I could hear her more easily. Whenever a woman uses the word "creepy" to describe a guy I instantly know what she is saying is complete bullshit. If the behavior of the guy was ACTUALLY something that everyone would agree is not acceptable, she would never use the word "creepy" in the first place and instead just describe the actions of the guy e.g. "ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:00 AM
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Personally as a guy IDGAF about "hugs" unless they come from a woman in my age range. If I wanted a hug from anyone I could easily get them from my mom, random old people, or homosexuals. The whole male loneliness epidemic is actually about the bottom 50% of men being expected by society to act as if they are castrated or gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 04:55 AM
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1) "Friendzoning" is not the issue. Leading a guy on is. Men would NOT have any issue with friendzoning if women were completely honest and clear about it instead of giving mixed signals i.e. "listen Rakesh, I don't have any sexual or romantic feelings for you whatsoever. No matter what you do, I will never feel sexually attracted to you. I am usually only attracted to tall white men over 5'11", and even if I do make an exception, the guy usually has caucasian features and is at least 5'9. With …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 10:11 PM
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Wait so you’re saying I can be completely selfish and only act in the interest of my own gender, not giving a fuck about women? Awesome!!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:19 PM
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You sound no different from the dumbasses who go to downtown with a flashy Rolex and zero self awareness and end up getting robbed by a bunch of thugs. “B-b-but I could have been robbed anywhere! There’s no way I could have predicted this! Why are you blaming the victim?? You should be blaming the thugs who robbed me!”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:15 PM
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Why is it that women always resort to using insults or dysphemisms when they see a non-chad man wanting to have sex? Why can’t you just say “misleading women is fine as long as it increases the chances of me having sex” Why do you describe sex in this context as “getting your dick wet”?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:10 PM
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It’s not “pretending”. it’s actually true. For me as a 30 year old guy it’s much more easy to date a younger woman (early 20s) than an older one (late 20s or above).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 04:21 AM
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Why is divorce allowed then? Why can’t women accept that marriage is permanent until death, even if the husband is an abusive piece of shit? If she didn’t trust the guy why get married in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 04:16 AM
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Lmao. Imagine forcing women to do the same Imagine if under no circumstances can a woman get divorced once they sign the marriage certificate. Even if they get beaten and abused, they consented to the possibility of it happening by marrying the husband. If they wanted the ability to leave, they should have never signed the paper in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 04:11 AM
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This is indeed the truth. Most guys don’t give two shits about romance. It’s annoying and irritating for them. They only pretend to like it because they know it makes their wife or gf happy. They think she deserves romance for having sex with him, or for refusing sex with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 03:54 AM
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What is shocking about this? Women are the ones who are mainly interested in the romance part of the relationship whereas men are interested in sex. Most of the people interested in romance novels and romcoms are women, whereas most consumers of porn are men. Many women feel sex is something they “give” the man in exchange for relationship, and a relationship is something the man “gives” the woman in exchange for sex. Why do women have such a huge problem with this??
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 03:36 AM
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I’m actually open to waiting until marriage for sex if the girl is a virgin. A lot of guys are. The problem is a lot of women lie about their sexual history in order to secure a long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 03:28 AM
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What does creepy mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 11:18 PM
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Are you suggesting that men should continue being deceived because they were deceived in the past? It’s the equivalent of a woman being in a long distance relationship with a guy for 4 years. The guy is actually a 5’3 ugly Indian guy, but he uses a filter to make himself look like a 6 foot tall white guy on video calls. Eventually the two meet in person. The woman is expecting some tall handsome white dude, but who actually shows up is some ugly short indian guy, and when the woman realizes the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:02 PM
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lol so at first you say you don’t believe in the 1-10 rating scale, then you acknowledge that ugly women exist but you can’t even show me a picture of one. This is why I don’t take women seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:07 PM
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Then any non celebrity… just look on google images.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:29 PM
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Are you implying you can only tell someone’s racial phenotype by using calipers? Are you telling me you can’t tell the difference between a white person and a black person without using calipers?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:02 AM
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Yeah if she kissed other guys I’d expect her to kiss me too
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:57 AM
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Can you show me an example of an ugly but not deformed woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:56 AM
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So you don’t think ugly women exist ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:52 AM
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Show me what a woman at the 10th percentile looks like because that’s where I’d place her. In other words in a group of 30 random woman she would be 3rd from the bottom
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:48 AM
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What 😂😂😂 you can’t be serious
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:46 AM
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For the 5’3 Indian guy, I’d recommend leg lengthening, arm lengthening, and shoulder widening to reach 5’7-5’9 He can improve his face at the same time with hard mewing, McKenzie chin tucks and good skincare. If he’s bald he needs to get a hair transplant and hop on the big 3 (rogaine, finasteride, nizoral) Once he reaches 5/10 in looks, he can focus on the other stuff like improving his social skills Even if he does all 3 there’s no guarantee of success if he has a bad phenotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:06 AM
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When I got stabbed I couldn’t move without screaming in pain. I had to keep pressure on the area to stop it from bleeding
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:00 AM
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Betabuxxing in the west. arranged marriage in India and the Middle East. This is why I specifically told you to only count women who sleep with the guy within 3 dates. This filters out most women who are looking for a betabuxx.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:59 AM
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Let’s assume the 5’3 Indian guy has a 1% chance of finding a girlfriend who is sexually attracted to him within 5 years. If he puts in and insane amount effort to have a great personality and this chance goes up to 5%, is it worth it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:53 AM
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most probably Mary, but I have a few questions first. Can you give me a picture of a woman who looks like Mary? Try to match the facial attractiveness level and racial phenotype. If she’s from Latin America does she look more Amerindian or Mediterranean ? How often is Mary willing to have sex with the husband. Will she try to please him? Is Mary a virgin? Has she ever kissed any guys in the past or done anything sexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:49 AM
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What bluepillers don’t acknowledge is that the 5’11 white guy is going to get treated 10x better by his girlfriend than the 5’3 Indian guy. The Indian guy will also be much more likely to get cheated on. A “genuine connection” is meaningless when a woman doesn’t even wanna have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:44 AM
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Okay now we’re getting somewhere… Realistically speaking the white guy can find someone within 1 week. I was able to do it with a fake account on Bumble. I replicated this same experiment all across the US. 2/10 and 3/10 Asian chicks were literally willing to drive to this guy’s house and sleep with this guy the same day. The Indian guy? Maybe around 5 to 10 years if lucky. If unlucky then never. My 5’2 white friend has an amazing personality and at least 3 dozen close friends from his church in…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:36 AM
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How would you rate the woman Mindy kaling? My friend looks like an uglier version of her
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:27 AM
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If you saw the experiment again you would see that men were indeed messaging her first and willing to sleep with her. My female friend who had a legit 2/10 face got over 100 likes and dozens of matches within 1 hour on bumble. The guys were 4/10 and above in looks and were even willing to take her out on dates and get to know her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:25 AM
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Holy fuck… In English, HOW LONG = what length of time HOW MUCH TIME would it take would it take for a 5’3 Indian guy in Wisconsin with a 3/10 face and amazing personality to find a woman who is willing to sleep with him within 3 dates. HOW MUCH TIME would it take a 5’11 white guy with a 5/10 face and average personality to do the same. The above is all I asked. I didn’t ask how tall you are. I didn’t ask if you find Indian women attractive. I didn’t ask if your Indian friends have girlfriends. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:17 AM
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Why don’t you go on r/shortguys and ask them if they would rather be 5’2 and never be raped, or 6’3 and raped once in their lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:08 AM
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I have been raped and stabbed both. Being stabbed is 100x worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:03 AM
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Are you fucking serious? Imagine I had a magic wand. I can make any guy who is 5’2 magically turn 6’3 overnight. The only caveat is that he will have to be raped one time when he is tall. You’d be fucking deluded if at least 90% of the guys don’t agree to the deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:02 AM
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Holy fuck. I will try a third time. I asked a simple question. HOW LONG Person 1) Indian guy, 3/10 face, 5’3 height, amazing personality Person 2) white guy, 5/10 face, 5’11 height, average personality HOW LONG do you think it would take both of them to find a woman who finds him sexually attractive, in other words a woman who is willing to sleep with him within three dates. That’s literally all I asked!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:57 PM
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I never made fun of them. You’re the one accusing me of having a napoleon complex. That’s the equivalent of calling a black person the N word
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:44 PM
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Bro what the fuck. You didn’t answer my question. How long do you think it’ll take a 5’3 Indian guy with a 3/10 face in Wisconsin to find a woman who is sexually attracted to him if he was a nice person? How long would it take a 5’11 white guy with a 5/10 face? Assume the white guy has an average personality. If you’re confused how to measure sexual attraction, you can consider any woman willing to sleep with the guy within 3 dates or less to be sexually attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:43 PM
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Are you saying those guys are not willing to have sex with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:38 PM
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Assume that there’s a 5’3 Indian guy with a 3/10 face guy living in Wisconsin. Will your advice work for him? Will being a nice person make him sexually attractive to women? If he is nice, how many years will it take him to find a woman who finds him sexually attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:36 PM
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Which person do you think has a better quality of life? A 5’2 guy who never got raped, or a 6’2 guy who got raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:32 PM
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If you think I’m wrong, you can go on the shortguys subreddit and ask for yourself. But I know you won’t do it because you know that YOURE wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:17 PM
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I was raped as a guy. It’s nowhere near as bad as rotting away in prison for 20 years
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:13 PM
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Does it hurt more than being stabbed by a knife?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:11 PM
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Lady.. you literally made fun of my height, even though you have no idea how tall I am. You just assume any guy who disagrees with you is short. How is this calling any guy who disagrees with you the N word?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 10:18 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 09:31 PM
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Let me set things straight. At first you refused to answer my simple question. Who has a higher suicide rate: very short men or female rape victims? When I called you out for it, you claimed you didn’t answer it because I didn’t answer your question. Then when I did answer your question, you backtracked and refused to answer again, making fun of my height (even though you don’t know my height) by saying I have a napoleon complex and saying that you feel disgusted. in other words the very fact th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 04:37 PM
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lol, this is what chicks often do when they know they’re wrong. Either change the topic or run away.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 04:31 PM
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Not wanting to spend half of your remaining life in jail over being raped is fucked up? Wow 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 04:26 PM
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They don’t take it that seriously when a man is being sexually harassed or raped by another man. I’ve seen many people who think that male criminals deserve to be raped in jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 04:25 PM
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I have been raped before. Tbh I’d rather be raped than go to jail for 20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 04:21 PM
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Can you tell me what a “napoleon complex” is, and how it’s relevant to this discussion? If you’re talking about the Delhi gangrape that took place on the bus, then yeah I know what you’re talking about. That’s what I was referring to… Okay so many women are murdered while raped. What’s your point? Many people are also murdered during armed robberies or kidnapping. Obviously, rape victims who are murdered cannot kill themselves. I am talking about the ones who survive. What is the suicide rate am…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 04:17 PM
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To answer your question, you can’t kill yourself if you’re murdered, regardless if there is any rape or not. I don’t see how this is relevant… It’s like saying some guy bullied me in school and then stabbed me and then I died on the way to the hospital, and my parents then concluded that school bullies should all be treated like murderers. Dying of internal injuries that were inflicted during a rape is the equivalent to being murdered. Again you’re saying that murder is bad… I don’t know how the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:50 PM
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Which questions do you want answered?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:38 PM
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Wow… You edited your previous comment after I replied. This was your original comment: “I don’t give 8 fucks dude” Again… I asked you a very simple question which you refuse to answer. I’ll ask you again. What is the suicide rate of very short men (<5’3) compared to women who were raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:36 PM
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Then why do women expect men to give a fuck about their problems… 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:32 PM
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You’re just name calling at this point… I asked you a few simple questions which you aren’t willing to answer. Here is one simple question. What is the suicide rate of rape victims in western countries compared to men under 5’3?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:31 PM
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I am responding to the person who suggested that being a woman in India is terrible. I am suggesting that if being a woman in India was really bad, the suicide rate for women in India would be much higher than that of men. In reality the suicide rates for both men and women in India are about equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:29 PM
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Did the rape victim you were taking care of want to commit suicide? Are you saying that rape is worse than being paralyzed or they’re both equally as bad? Like if you had to pick between the two which one would you rather pick?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:28 PM
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I have been raped. I would rather be raped than go to prison for 20 years. It’s stupid to even compare the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:26 PM
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Are you suggesting that women in India have a higher suicide rate than men in India? Surely if life for women in India was so bad, they’d be committing suicide at 10x the rate of men right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:24 PM
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I have never taken care of a rape victim. I don’t see how that’s relevant to my point. I am responding to the claims I’ve seen from people who say that rape is worse than murder. Would you agree that rape isn’t as bad as being murdered, losing your eyesight, getting bone cancer, or being paralyzed in a car accident?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:22 PM
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Are you saying all rape victims want to commit suicide?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:18 PM
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So you’re saying we should not have empathy for victims of gang rape? What’s your point? Can you tell me what is the suicide rate for short men vs tall men in western countries? And now compare that to the suicide rate of men vs women as a whole. What’s the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:18 PM
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We are not saying rape isn’t terrible. We’re just saying it’s not worse than being dead. If it was worse than being dead, every rape victim would be fighting tooth and nail to commit suicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:17 PM
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What is the suicide rate of short men compared to tall men in western countries? What is the suicide rate of men compared to women in western countries? What is the suicide rate of men v/s women in India? How about suicide rates by caste? To answer your questions 1) short men are not being gang raped by women. Most short guys are virgins to begin with. This for them would be a dream come true 2) the equivalent to a dowry in western is divorce rape or betabuxxing for a former promiscuous woman 3)…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:12 PM
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How do you know that for sure? How can you measure effect for something as subjective as rape? What if an adult was terribly traumatized by rape, even more than 99.9% of children and wanted to commit suicide because of it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:30 PM
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None of the stuff you says matters because you don’t know how much influence it has on the impact of rape. It might affect you but you don’t know what every other man or woman is going through if they are put in your circumstances. Rape affects everyone differently, just like how being physically assaulted, stabbed, strangled, or verbally abused affects everyone differently, and it’s impossible to know for sure how it affects one random person over the other. You cannot read their mind, so the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:07 PM
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Is it worse than how American society treats short and ugly men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:00 PM
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Imagine having the audacity to say that one single traumatizing event is worse than being in jail for 20 years. I would rather get raped than stuck in prison until I’m 50 years old. I’ve even see some people claim that it’s worse than murder. Okay well then why isn’t every single rape victim committing suicide if they think it’s worse than being dead? Why are they still willing to be alive? That itself shows you it’s not worse than being dead. I have way more empathy for victims of serious car a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:57 PM
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Pathetic comparison. You know for sure that a billionaire won’t be affected by a $100 fine. On the other hand you have zero idea about how much a rape is going to affect a random person. You cannot read their mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:52 PM
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Disgusting. This sub is a daily reminder why I should not have empathy for the opposite gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:49 PM
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Do you think having to spend years in jail is better than being raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:47 PM
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I find that disgusting. They should be treated equally. It’s like saying a billionaire’s life is worth more than a homeless person’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:45 PM
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If I did it you’d claim the results are cherry picked. That’s why I am asking YOU to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:42 PM
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You did not answer the question
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:16 PM
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So what. It works for most people. They didn’t work for me so I just spent 10k and got a hair transplant. Going bald isn’t a real problem like being short or ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:51 AM
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If Clinton was some random no-name off the radar billionaire than no one knew about then he could absolutely date a 22 y/o. What do you think those 45 y/o sheikhs in Dubai are doing when they pay young Instagram models to fly out to see them and have sex? They don’t have to worry about their image so they can do what they actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:51 AM
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Image absolutely does matter to them. If their image is ruined they lose their status and that matters to them way more than money. If they just wanted money they could have just cashed out and removed themselves from the public eye long ago Men who don’t give a shit about their image like Elon musk, or Justin Waller do date younger women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:43 AM
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I didn’t have a receding hairline. I had diffuse thinning and I got 2200 grafts of FUT. I have a scar on the back from the strip but my hair covers it up.. keep in mind if you get FUT you can’t do a fade haircut because it’ll show the scar. My only regret is not getting enough grafts and placing the hairline too far back. Other than that no regrets.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:41 AM
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Elon musk can do that but Buffet can’t because of his image. If Bill Clinton wasn’t married he would still be labelled as a creep for dating a 22 y/o. Even people on this subreddit call me a creep for having dated a 20 y/o as a 30 y/o guy, even though they have no knowledge of the relationship other than the ages
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:33 AM
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Same thing would have happened even if it was random 22 y/o female
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:27 AM
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You can’t be serious if you think Bill Gates indirectly committing atrocities in 3rd world countries is going to get more negative attention than him banging a hot 22 y/o female. Look at what happened to Bill Clinton.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:17 AM
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DiCaprio is shit on constantly for dating young women… someone like Bill Gates can’t do the same. It would ruin his image.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:09 AM
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Are you serious or joking? You’re saying Jeff Bezos can get any woman he wants? In case you didn’t realize, public figures like Bezos, Bill Gates, Zuckerbergand Warren Buffet cannot be banging hot 22 y/o chicks even if they wanted because it would ruin their public image. More eccentric ones like Musk or Trump can do so because their public image has already been ruined. They have nothing left to lose. Shivon Zilis is 38 but she can pass for being in her late 20s. Elon Musk on the other hand js …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:54 AM
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So you think lying is better than telling the truth? okay… The fact of the matter is you do find short guys disgusting. But you’re just lying about the reason you don’t find them attractive. I have much more respect for women who actually tell me the reason they aren’t attracted to me than lying. This is why I pretty much have zero respect for women and their words. They always lie and pretend the reason is to avoid hurting our feelings. And please explain why the second example isn’t comparable…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:08 AM
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Looks like that overdose has affected your eyesight
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:06 AM
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1) Pearl is not average looking, she is ugly and very masculine looking like 3/10 or 3.5/10 at best. Although that might be different for men with a blonde fetish. 2) Megan Fox is a celebrity. If she was some random woman, she could not have dated MGK. An average looking 25 y/o woman like this one https://images.app.goo.gl/powZLp9X6fAebdco9 has a lot more options than a non-celebrity woman who looks like modern day Megan Fox.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:05 AM
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Then why do women usually get offended and butthurt whenever they hear a man say that fat chicks are disgusting or that old women age like milk? Why do they care what random men think of them? What if I was some random white restaurant owner in the 1960s and I didn’t want black people eating at my establishment because it made me the owner or other white patrons feel uncomfortable. Should black people not take offense to that? After all, the white restaurant owner can’t control his in-group bias…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:55 AM
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Should we be happy when someone that we find as attractive finds us as unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:37 AM
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No because women always have more options than men. The point is the wall hits women harder. A generic looking 25 y/o female has more options than an old woman who looks like Megan Fox. On the other hand, a handsome 40 year old guy has way more options than a generic looking 25 year old guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:35 AM
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Cope, it’s way easier to find a woman who finds Tom Cruise attractive than a man who finds Gina whatshername as attractive And they are not “models” unless you consider the fat dude on a poster at Home Depot of him riding a lawn mower as also a “model” lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:32 AM
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Then go out in public and show me the ugly young non-Hispanic couples involving a short guy where the girl is actually affectionate towards her bf the same way the girl in the photo with the tall guy. Nobody on Reddit so far has done my experiment because they all know deep down inside the results will prove I am right and they’re wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:30 AM
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That’s what women say, but if you actually look at the types of guys young women date, they’re usually all tall and white or at least have Eurocentric features. It’s only until women are older and looking to settle down after dating 6/10 and above guys they start dating the sub 5 short and ugly guys because the handsome tall white guys wont commit. But the whole point here is you have to deal with the cards you are dealt. The fact is if you lock down a guy and marry him when young, he isn’t just…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:27 AM
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You mean her?? https://images.app.goo.gl/HTLWXpGEqCoDXVnu6 I think she looks disgusting compared to the average 20-25 y/o female. Like in this image all 3 of these generic looking young college age girls are more attractive than her from a male POV https://images.app.goo.gl/VVcHn8XL5XhWeQUo7
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:20 AM
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Most of them only pretend to be unattracted to young women because doing so is not considered socially acceptable. The only men who are open about it are those who don’t give a fuck about consequences like those old construction workers who catcall young women. Most of the women in music videos or porn are young and attractive. There is a reason why being into MILFs is considered a fetish while being attracted to a a 22 y/o isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:16 AM
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What’s your point? Most women of all races want to date tall white guys. Should men constantly whine and complain that women only value men for their height and race the same way that women complain that men only value youth? Should short guys or nonwhite guys avoid getting out of fear that their wife will cheat on them with a guy who is tall or white?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:11 AM
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You can say the same about bald men… that they’re usually in their 40s and already married
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:09 AM
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Sandra Bullock is an exception and she doesn’t look that good from a male’s perspective although she has aged well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:31 AM
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Calling a straight man a homosexual is no different from calling a black person the N word and then claiming if they get offended then that’s on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:29 AM
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Elevators ARE isolated if there are only a few people in the whole building. As for my mom, she works at a corporate office and would oftentimes work on weekends where it’s just her and a male janitor there. Sometimes I would go with her on weekends as a kid. My sister attends after school activities where it’s only her and one or two other students in the whole building. Oftentimes there is just a male janitor there with her when I go to pick her up. You mentioned absolutely nothing about train…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:26 AM
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So what? What’s on the front page of pornhub? Which women make the most off their OF accounts? It’s not old grannies, that’s for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:20 AM
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Cillian murphy doesn’t count because he is a pretty boy. They age like milk Same thing with all those kpop idols, Chico, DiCaprio, etc. Men who are more masculine looking don’t age badly. Look at Hernan drago, Brad Pitt, Henry Cavill, or Tom Cruise.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:19 AM
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Why do women always resort this shaming language whenever they argue? What is the point of saying “Tom Cruise man crush?” Why can’t they ever just address the points that were made
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:18 AM
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Are you saying it’s impossible to be alone with a man on a random train in school or at the workplace? Have you ever heard of things like afterschool activities or working late hours? Have you ever read a train during late hours of the night had only one person with you in the train car?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:39 AM
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The difference is I actually responded to your points. You didn’t and just asked me why I was getting emotional until I called you out for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:33 AM
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Don’t look like it 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:30 AM
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You sure? Have you gotten you gotten your T checked?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:26 AM
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Ad-hominem doesn’t require you explicitly say the other person is wrong. It requires you attack the other persons character. In this case you’re calling me emotional instead of answering the answering the actual question. common sense tells you that men are less dangerous than a bear. My mom and sister have been alone with men in elevators, trains, at school, the workplace, grocery stores. If they were with a bear they would be mauled to death by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:25 AM
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I don’t care about the original post. In case you didn’t realize, my original comment was replying to some lady saying men age even worse than women do because of balding.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:22 AM
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She wants to shame men for dating younger women but when called out for it, she has no response.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:21 AM
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Of course, when you realize you’re wrong you just change the topic and run away. Typical Earlier you thought you were hot shit implying that I have hair plugs and I’m balding snd wrinkling
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:19 AM
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Lmao. As I expected, nothing but ad-hominem attacks. This is what women usually do when they know they’re wrong. Let me ask you again more clearly. 1) what is the rate of attack per encounter with a random bear v/s a random man. If you don’t know this, how can you conclude that men are more dangerous. 2) common sense says that my mom and sister have been alone with thousands of men throughout their lifetime and have never been raped or attacked. You’re saying they’d be safer with thousands bears…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:16 AM
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Do you genuinely have reading comprehension problems or are you just playing dumb and pretending to not understand? What part of a girl “falling in love with me” means that I was pursuing her? If I was pursuing her, I would be the one falling in love wirh her not the other way around. It’s laughable the extent to which women don’t want to believe that it’s possible for a below average looking 30 y/o guy to attract a 19 y/o female. No it won’t happen on dating apps but if you happen to meet a gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:12 AM
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Yes she is. You’re telling me a guy in his 50s or 60s would refuse to have sex with a hot 22 y/o if she wanted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:08 AM
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What a braindead comment. What is the rate of attack per encounter with a random bear v/s a random man? My mom and sister have probably been alone with tens of thousands of men throughout their lifetime and they’ve never been raped, sexually assaulted or harmed in any way. If they had spent that much time alone with bears they’d be mauled to death by now
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:06 AM
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Dude I have a mom and a sister and I am not fucking retarded enough to have them spend time alone with a random bear and get violently mauled and disfigured.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:58 AM
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Do you have reading comprehension problems or what? The 26 y/o I met just two months ago. You do realize there was a whole 30 years of my life before that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:57 AM
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Are you fucking deluded? That’s exactly how it works. Men aging doesn’t make them unattractive to women. Women aging DOES make them unattractive to men. What part of this don’t you understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:53 AM
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Lmao why do woman never answer the question. This is exactly what politicians do. I asked you a SIMPLE one or the other question. Do you think most men would have their wife or daughter be alone with a random bear or a random man? Random bear or random man? Which would would most men feel their daughter is safer with?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:47 AM
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Because they were virgins… I did not have sex with the 19 year olds, we only kissed. One 21 year old gave me BJ, HJ’s but we did not have sex. Again because she is a virgin and wanted to retain it. I had sex with a girl who was 26 2 months ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:44 AM
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Changing the goal posts are we? Please show me a single woman who is the same age as Tom Cruise and still just as good looking as her 22 year old self. The fact is that men age terribly only if they let themselves go. On the other hand women always age terribly unless they have good aging genetics. Hair transplants always look natural if you go to the right surgeon. Look at this guy: https://youtu.be/X8tjQusW-TI?si=UwM70OJmDfmROjMj I don’t know why you are bringing up examples of younger men mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:42 AM
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Giga cope. You’re just butthurt. Take a look at this: https://youtu.be/X8tjQusW-TI?si=UwM70OJmDfmROjMj As a 30 y/o guy I have had 19 y/o chicks fall in love with me. And I am 4/10 in looks and only 5’8.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:30 AM
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Go ahead poll them and ask, you will be surprised. You can also create a fake tinder account for a woman the same age as Megan Fox, and one average 6/10 21 year old and show me who gets more matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:27 AM
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Are you fucking serious. Do you think most men would rather have their wife or daughter be alone with a bear than a random man? Are you deluded?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:25 AM
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It really is that easy WTF. Back in 2020 I paid $10K for a hair transplant in USA. The procedure took only 7 hours. If I went to Turkey I could have done it for only $4K but I couldn’t travel then due to lockdown. There is nothing like that available for women to look younger. Those older women who get plastic surgery to look younger still look old. I haven’t seen a single impressive before and after result.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:22 AM
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Doll hair plugs?? Lady this isn’t 1982. It’s 2024. Hair transplants are no longer detectable. Aging does not affect a man’s attractiveness the same way that it does for a woman. This is a fact. Tons of young women still lust after guys like Tom Cruise or Henry Cavill. On the other hand, no young guy lusts after their female equivalents. I can’t think of a single dude who thinks Megan Fox, Aishwarya Rai or Angelina Jolie are still attractive today. Things like obesity and balding are unrelated to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:20 AM
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But can she get more dates than even an ugly 22 year old?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:16 AM
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A hair transplant will cost you only about $4K in Turkey and $10K - $20K in the US. I myself got one four years ago. Yes nearly all men who are balding and want to fix it know what those three words mean. You’re telling me you never heard of rogaine?? You did not address my second point. There is NO PLASTIC SURGERY in the world than can make a woman look like her 21 year old self again.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:09 AM
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I am 30 years old and about 4/10 in looks, 5’8 height… it has been easier for me to attract younger women than older ones. The one caveat… I didn’t meet any of them off dating apps. I met them organically on different online platforms, had a short convo, and then they fell in love with me. I have only kissed 3 girls in my lifetime, all within the last 2 years. Their ages were 22, 19 and 26
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:06 AM
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Male pickmes are 10x more common than female ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:57 PM
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Oh really, try going on any mainstream subreddit and asking people what they think of Dr Disrespect
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:56 PM
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The two aren’t comparable. Most men don’t go bald, and this is a problem that can easily be fixed by a hair transplant. It can also be prevented by using minoxidil, finasteride, and ketoconazole shampoo. On the other hand, there is no plastic surgery in the world that can make a woman who looks 38 years old look like her 20 year old self again. inb4 you point out some female celebrity who you think is “gorgeous” in her 50s. When women rate other women, they don’t value youthfulness as much as me…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:54 PM
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That doesn’t really count because I am not gay. The equivalent would be asking a woman how she would feel if she was raped by another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 10:56 PM
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You're the one claiming we are wrong so it's your responsibility to prove it. Go ahead try it, it literally takes only 30 minutes of your time to go visit your local movie theater on Friday night and show me what the young couples there look like. BTW I can do the same thing, but I am asking you to do it because I know that if I were to show you my theater, you'd claim that it's cherrypicked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 09:06 PM
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oh! So you're telling me that when couples with short guys aren't with their kids they magically start being affectionate with one another the same way the couple in the second photo is?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 09:03 PM
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How do you know she “let herself go.” Maybe HE let himself go. The woman in the photo obese while the guy is not. How can you say he let himself go?? Btw, I tend not to hang on my husband in public. We have two kids. We had sex yesterday morning. I still want to jump his bones. And HE’s the one that packed on 70 lbs. Ah yes, just like how whenever a short guy on reddit complains about dating, every woman in the comments raves about how much she loves short guys and how she banged her short bf th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 09:01 PM
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You did not address a single point. You’re being completely absurd. Answer my simple question. Why is it that women nearly always have better body language when they are with a tall guy in public than a short guy? Why do women act like platonic friends when they are in a relationship with a short guy? Why aren’t they leaning towards him, hugging him, or showing any affection (Again, excluding Hispanics). Next time you go anywhere like a mall or movie theater, record the couples and show me how w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 02:54 PM
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Ah yes, call me a creep instead of acknowledging reality or addressing any of my points. Typical bluepiller
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 02:40 PM
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Look lady, those so called "negative" men would be sexually unattractive to women regardless of their attitude. Most of these guys are short, ugly and nonwhite. Even if they had the best personality in the world women would still find them sexually unattractive. So why the fuck should these guys bury their head in the sand and pretend that everything is fine when it isn't? Is it going to fix anything? NO You claim that you prefer short men over tall men. I see tons of women on these dating subre…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 02:21 PM
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Ridiculous. You claim that you see a ton of "women" who are "coupled with" all kinds of men including short and ugly guys. Okay fine... but how are these women treating them? Are they hugging them? kissing them? leaning against them? It's blatantly obvious when a woman is physically attracted to a guy she is with. Women only do these things when they are in a relationship with a guy who is 6/10 in looks or above. (or 4/10 at the very least, if the woman herself is extremely ugly) I can show you …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 02:18 PM
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Because I have experience and I have talked to a bunch of other guys who have had the same experience as me. This has happened to my friends many time. And I have even been on the other side of the coin where a 3/10 woman would want to have sex with me (a 4/10 but I am 6/10 in her country) but forced her 2/10 husband to wait 3 months after marriage to do it. I have not once in my lifetime met a woman who made a guy she only wants to hookup with wait longer for sex than a guy she wants an actual …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 10:58 PM
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Yes exactly:
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 10:53 PM
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The point completely flew over your head. In my story the Chad is the older sister and the incel is the younger one. The parents are women that both the Chad and incel get into a relationship with. Because the older sister is better looking, the parents feel a natural desire to spoil her. This backfires and the older ends up treating the parents like crap when she is older. Parents decide to have another daughter and the daughter turns out ugly. Now in addition to having to deal with strict pare…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 10:49 PM
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Nice job strawmanning me. I have no problem acknowledging that period pain is a serious problem as long as you acknowledge that lack of sex is also a serious problem for 30% of the male population. But of course you don’t give a shit so why the fuck should I care about women and their periods. If some men commit suicide due to lack of sex, How can you conclude period pain is worse? The only sicko here is you who has zero empathy for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:30 PM
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Again you did not answer a simple YES or NO question. Jesus Christ, talking to you is like talking to a psychopath. Women use this same retarded logic and reasoning against men. I am merely giving you a taste of your own medicine. Yall claim that “men won’t die” without access to sex, which is ridiculous because some men do indeed die because of lack of access to safe sex. It’s a small minority of men who die but some still die! Look at the suicide rates of short men compared to tall men. If the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 03:21 PM
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Do you have a reading comprehension problem or what? I asked her a simple YES or NO question. Did every woman in the past die before they had access to birth control? Like a typical scumbag politician you did NOT answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 03:35 AM
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I don’t care if the mortality rates were higher then. Mortality rates for sexless men are also higher but you don’t give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 03:30 AM
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I got raped one time by a 2/10 female but I don’t really care. If you asked most guys about this they would say the same thing as me. Men care more about divorce rape than actual rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:45 AM
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That fact that you actually gave a reasonable timeline and also mentioned that you would put effort on your part into healing instead of saying something more typical and self-centered like “Honey if he actually loves you he will wait as long as it takes, no matter how long.” For example I was dating a girl for six months and she was not comfortable with any kind of physical contact during this time period (no hugging, no kisses, no hand holding nothing). I asked people on Reddit what’s a reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:34 AM
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It’s not really equivalent to apply this to a man because most of them don’t get traumatized when they’re raped. Me as a guy if some chick raped me I wouldn’t care, even if she was ugly. The only thing I’d be scared of is catching an std. The equivalent would be a guy who refuses to be vulnerable with you or give you fancy gifts and stuff like that on Valentine’s Day out of fear that you might cheat on him, due to negative some past experiences he had with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:17 AM
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Rare to see this coming from a woman on this sub. I was shocked to even read this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:13 AM
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False! https://youtu.be/Ggm4nUSxtTY?si=oBh9RcdgR1Xdxmj0 There are plenty of such experiments proving you wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:03 AM
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What a pathetic excuse. What did women do before birth control was invented? Did every women who was on her period just die? I also love how you completely ignored my other point. Are you entitled to have anesthesia during surgery? After all, you won’t die without it. Do you also believe the government owes you free healthcare? You might die without it but taxpayers are not obligated to help you with your problems. How about education? Do you somehow feel entitled to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:02 AM
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Abortion is not a need. You won’t die if you have a baby. Only a small minority of women whose life is in danger due to their pregnancy should be entitled to abortion. Surgery or childbirth with anesthesia is not a need. You won’t die without it. Having friends is not a need. You won’t die without it. Education is not a need. You won’t die without it. I could go on and on….. If I could wave a magic wand and force every 20 year old male on planet earth to make either one of two choices, either go…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:57 AM
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You don’t need to regulate your periods. You don’t die without it. Heck, you are not entitled to surgery without anesthesia either. Plenty of people in the 1800s used to go through surgery without anesthesia and survived. Suddenly when a problem affects women it becomes serious, but when it affects men only you guys brush it under the rug lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:52 AM
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News flash, 99% of men would say yes to a hookup if it was guaranteed to not be some kind of setup or scam and did not carry risk of catching an STD. This has nothing to do with what they're "looking for". "Looking for" a hookup is something that only women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:50 AM
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Can you somehow read their minds? Are you telepathic? Are you saying it's literally impossible for a guy to be looking for a long-term relationship but doesn't mind if some girl wants to have casual sex with him and not date long term?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:47 AM
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Again typical female response. Just painting a caricature of men and misrepresenting their actual beliefs. Here is what an ACTUAL 2/10 men desires. 1) A long term relationship with his looksmatch (2/10 female) 2) The 2/10 female to find him sexually attractive, or if not, at least have sex with him anyway to keep him happy. 3) That she treat him better than any of her previous sexual partners. This means if she had sex with her previous partners right away, she do the same with him. That's liter…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:43 AM
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Here is an analogy that might make it easier to understand. Let's say you are growing up in a very strict household. Your parents never bought you any toys or let you do any fun activities, they homeschool you and don't allow you to have friends. It's a shitty situation, but it's still somewhat tolerable. It's not like you're living in north korea or something where you're dealing with constant death, famine, disease, etc. You still have a roof over your head and can watch TV or a movie once in …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:19 AM
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Typical female response. Nothing but ad-hominem attacks. Anytime a man does something a woman doesn’t like he is called insecure or in this case “terrified”. Look lady we are not “terrified”. We are disgusted. The equivalent would be me asking you to eat a bowl full of feces. You are not terrified of feces. The idea of eating feces doesn’t make you feel insecure. Disgust is what you feel. And we don’t give a shit whether you compare us or not. The very act of doing relationshippy things for a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:40 AM
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The question should be what sort of changes do I expect not to see that favor women. For starters… no fault divorce, child support, and affirmative action. More negative representation of women in the media, and more positive representation of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:27 AM
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This is a difference between implicit transactions and explicit transactions. People generally feel uncomfortable when the transaction in love/romance is explicit rather than implicit. This difference in view actually applies to many different types of transactions. When I hold the door open for someone at the grocery store who is holding a bunch of heavy bags, there is an implicit transaction going on. The transaction is, I will hold the door open for them to be polite, and they will either say…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:11 PM
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You are looking at marriage and long term relationships the wrong way. Marriage is not about physical attraction. It's supposed to be a long term commitment with one person you love for life. That's why they say "till death do us part" in marriage vows. Imagine you were married to a guy for 10 years and one day he gets into a car accident and loses both of his legs. Would you divorce him? Probably not, right? It's a shitty thing to do to divorce someone you've been with for 10 years when they ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:38 PM
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What you are doing is stereotyping. It’s no different from racism. For example I have gotten my phone nearly stolen 4 times, and seen people actually getting their phone stolen on the train another 3 times. all 7 times, the thieves were black, even though blacks make up maybe only 10-15% of the population here. Going by your logic, would it be justifiable to use the word “black thief” or “black criminal” whenever I am the victim of theft by a black person? Or if I notice a lot of dangerous looki…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:15 PM
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Obviously you’re not responding in good faith. Pretty much whenever a person makes a post on Reddit describing a situation they are in that involves a man and a woman, nearly always the man is painted as the bad person and the woman as some kind of angel. It’s as if women can do no wrong in their eyes. You’ll see this on AITAH and many other subreddits.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:06 PM
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You’re saying it’s impossible for a teenager or child to be creepy? Or is it just more common for creepy behavior to come from old men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:05 PM
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Why are “creepy” and “old” always paired together? What about old men makes them inherently creepy? Why does no one ever use the word creepy to describe a child or a teenager?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:01 PM
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People should tell that to women also.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:52 PM
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What is it that when women as a whole have a problem, people ask how society has to change, but when men have a problem, they are told that they have to change?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:50 PM
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I knew you would say that. Please tell me why the director chose handsome guys to be the ones that these women cheat on their ugly husbands with and not the other way around? Of course you know the answer. It’s not fucking believe. That’s why. Before you respond to any of my points. Please show me equivalent examples to ones that I gave you. Show me examples of women in TV shows and media who cheat on their good looking husbands with an ugly guy. If you can’t find any, please tell me why you thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:53 AM
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Being attractive or ugly has nothing to do with cheating - that is character trait. Wrong, just plain wrong. Why the heck do you think in movies and TV shows they always show wives cheating on their ugly husbands with attractive guys? Why is it never an ugly guy she cheats on her husband with? Here are two examples I found in just the past 5 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoEk0BiuoWc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b5DoAHeDLo It is attractive guys who have tons of women throwing thems…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:23 PM
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Yes so in the end you would rather have a guy that can cheat on you that’s good looking than an ugly guy who won’t cheat on you. Many men date ugly girls so that she doesn’t cheat on them. Women don’t do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 07:24 PM
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If you were responding in good faith it means you don’t have two brain cells. But you’re not responding in good faith. You chose to ignore the obvious that he didn’t state, that anyone with two brain cells knows is true
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:30 PM
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You wouldn’t need to ask this question if you had two brain cells. You are not responding to him in good faith. Literally everyone knows that something is valuable only when it is rare AND has utility. You also know this is true and that he just missed the utility part (because frankly that’s obvious) but you deliberately chose to ignore it and instead asked him if digging a hole in the ground is inherently valuable just because it’s difficult. This is exactly what women do when they argue with …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 03:30 PM
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I can’t tell if you’re serious or pretending to be retarded. value comes from utility and scarcity. Oxygen has a very high utility but it’s not valuable because everyone has it for free. It’s only when you don’t have air (in an enclosed space or while scuba diving) do you really value it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:21 PM
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A meaningful standard is one that is nearly impossible to meet with effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 05:55 AM
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It's not a meaningful standard because if women don't want to be fat all they have to fucking do is put down the fork and quit eating. And same thing with kids. On the other hand women ACTUALLY have real standards for men. If men could get taller or change our race by working out, we'd all be at the gym 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:44 AM
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Yeah I am in a relationship with an obese woman. She treats me really well. I won't marry her though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:38 AM
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Good, those women will be bred out of the gene pool and the problem will fix itself in a couple generations
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:30 AM
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Either you marry a guy who is your looksmatch or keep getting pumped and dumped by 7/10 chadlites. Women are fucking deluded for thinking some 7/10 chadlite is gonna marry their 4/10 self.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:56 AM
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Are you fucking deluded. Women are too picky in terms of looks Women should choose better men that make long term partners AKA if the chick is a 4/10 she can’t expect a chad to commit to her for a long term relationship. What part of this do you not understand? Oh of course you do understand but it’s in your best interest to gaslight people into thinking OP is stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:09 PM
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Lmao so you think women are gonna be interested in a 5’5 3/10 Indian guy for casual sex if he just “builds interpersonal connections with them and makes them feel safe” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:05 PM
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Most women would pick a cheater over a guy who doesn’t have any women interested in him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 06:35 PM
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Are you fucking deluded? You do realize the majority of men cannot find a single women who “will give them sex for free” right? Or when you use the word “men” do you only count the top 25%?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:03 AM
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Did you not assume I get zero matches on dating apps with no evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:18 PM
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Lmao, what the fuck is wrong with you. Would you call the bottom 50% of Harvard students as “shit quality” as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:15 PM
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You literally accused me of getting zero matches with anyone on dating apps. What a liar
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 10:31 PM
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No no, you are lying. I said that women find the bottom 50% of men unattractive and men find the bottom 10-15% of women attractive. Then you said that this must mean that there are more “shit quality” men than women, implying the bottom 50% of men are shit quality. So tell me, what is “shit quality” when it comes to attraction and how do you define it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 10:30 PM
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What do you mean by “shit quality” you said that word first not me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 10:10 PM
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Will this advice work for a 5’2 balding Indian guy who looks like this? https://imgur.com/a/qFGwt03 If so, how much will it change his dating life? If no women find him sexually attractive before, how many would find him sexually attractive after he starts rescuing kittens?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:28 PM
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There definitely is a correlation but in my experience it’s weak. I have a very attractive voice but i am ugly like 4/10 and only 5’8. I also know a ton of guys who are tall and good looking but have a shit voice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:34 PM
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“Y’all” AKA men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:30 PM
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All he said is that women fall in love with arcchetypes of men. YOU are strawmanning because you somehow think he means "nurturing and empathetic" when in reality you know damn well that's not what an archetype is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:48 AM
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Enlighten me please. What is the dictionary definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:12 AM
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Now you are straw manning him. Classic. Would not expect better from someone with your flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:11 AM
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Lmao when men do the same thing to women, yall whine and call it “fetishization”. But when a woman does it, it suddenly becomes “a conman looking for any specific things whatsoever in a guy”. Talk about double standards
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 02:00 AM
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Moreover, like a typical woman, you completely ignored the fact that you said there are more “shit quality” men than women as a response to me saying that women find men less attractive than men find women. What did you mean by “shit quality”?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 12:10 AM
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Who told you that nobody matches with me on dating apps? This is an assumption you are making to make me look bad, nothing but an ad-hominem attack. Tons of women think men today are garbage. Just ask the women on this subreddit or on twox chromosomes. Does that mean by your definition that those women are garbage too?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 12:08 AM
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Post verbatim your response to my original comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 12:04 AM
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Now you are changing the goalposts. Hyper fixating on the definition of “garbage” vs “unattractive” when you know damn well you were using them earlier to mean the same exact thing. Regarding point 2, all you have to do is look at the guys who get zero matches on dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 12:03 AM
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So you agree that women are more garbage than men? After all, they find half the male population as completely unattractive, whereas for men it’s much more generous. Most men only disqualify the bottom 15-20% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 09:34 PM
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Now you're a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 07:01 PM
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Did you not say that women finding 50% of men as unattractive means that there are more “shit quality” men than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 04:49 PM
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I was responding to your claim that far more men than women are shit quality simply because women find most men unattractive. I asked you why you consider the men as “shit quality” and you had no response. If women find men unattractive for being short or nonwhite, does that automatically make short and nonwhite men as “shit quality”? You did not respond to any of my question.s. Now you’re just resorting to name calling. That’s why I say you are a psychopath
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 03:32 PM
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Yeah... this is one example of how they try to sneakily change the topic or maliciously misinterpret what a person says when it goes against their argument. Seeing this happen repeatedly and consistently whenever a woman is confronted made me lose all respect for them. Seeing this literally makes it hard to even see them as a human. They all seem like psychopaths now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:53 AM
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Exactly, because any white person who was against slavery back in the 1800s must not have actually been white right? They must have some African blood in them and that's why they were against it. It makes total sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:49 AM
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You didn't explain why it is a "standard" and that it's somehow even ridiculous or absurd to go into such a discussion. That tells me you're full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:45 AM
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Lol so when it's something that favors women you consider it "irrelevant". Alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:43 AM
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Why is this considered a standard if it's something that she can easily control and doesn't cost her anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:41 AM
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The dudes here disagree. Most men could care less if their gf stopped wearing makeup. Men DO care about things like weight gain and promiscuity, having male friends, etc. Makeup is at the bottom of their priority list. Makeup is not going to magically turn an ugly woman beautiful. Yes, I included that idiocy in my original statement of the standards men here have right after they say men have little or no standards. This is not a "standard". This is entirely within her control. It's not a trait …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:23 AM
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Having ADHD does not make you extroverted nor does it make you disagreeable. It only makes you impulsive and results in poor executive function. Also you are a sample size of N=1. If you were replying in good faith you would give an unbiased example of OTHER people you know who fit this description and compare them with people who don't. You are just pissed that I said people who have these three big 5 personality traits have likely gone through a hoe phase. The fact is that introverted, conscie…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 03:13 AM
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A lot of guys will just say that so people like you will call them handsome and give them an ego boost. Don't feed the trolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 02:54 AM
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The word incel has become nothing but a pejorative. A more realistic definition would be any man who is considered sexually unattractive by most women in his vicinity. Going by that definition, even a married man who has to resort to betabuxxing in order to receive shitty starfish sex once a year is still an incel. The overall way he gets treated by women is not that much difference from an actual incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 02:44 AM
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Women do approach men who are 6/10 in SMV and above. It's only the sub 5's that have to resort to approaching women to get laid. You can easily confirm this by creating a dating profile as a 6/10 male and seeing how many women message him first and flirt with him. Even the women who don't directly approach men will give hints to show that they are interested, or they will have one of your mutual friends "suggest' that you two should start dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 02:41 AM
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Yes and your sample size is n=1. So what. If you were replying to me in good faith you would say something more honest like "I know x number of females who are introverts and y number of females who are extroverts. On average the extroverted women were much less likely to have a high body count." or some shit like that. You're basically pointing out exceptions so that I don't make generalizations which is pretty much what all women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 02:38 AM
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There’s no way to tell for sure whether someone hasn’t had a hoe phase, but there are many things that would tell you they have. With extroverted, impulsive or disagreeable women, it’s almost a guarantee they’ve had a hoe phase. Best is to steer clear of them. With women who are reluctant to talk about their past experiences or relationships, same thing. It’s easier to hide the truth than to lie. If they do lie, it’s hard for them to go into details and keep things consistent. You can also ask o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 11:58 PM
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Makeup makes very little difference. It’s women who are obsessed with makeup and looking thin, not men. Most men just don’t want their wife look like an obese old hag when starting out their relationship. Women will whine and complain endlessly how they are judged for things like their boobs or butt size but I’ve never once in my life met a female that couldn’t get any matches on a dating app because her boobs were too small. Regarding your second point, men don’t care how soon their wife has fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 11:28 PM
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You’re using this term “shit quality” as a pejorative. Your response makes it obvious that you’re not responding in good faith and that you’re full of crap. 1) what does perceived “quality” have anything to do with which gender has it harder in dating? The way to measure which gender has it harder is to see what percentage of the opposite gender would find them attractive. And for most men, a very small portion of women find them attractive… which brings me to the next point 2) How do you define…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:39 PM
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The key here is “good looking”. That automatically excludes the bottom 50% of the male population, 80% if you count the lazy dudes who don’t put any effort into their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:07 PM
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Ah yes, because having standards that exclude the bottom 10 or 15% of the female population are totally equivalent to females excluding the bottom 50% of men with their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:04 PM
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Wrong! Here is some basic logic for you. You said “a 5 will have a hard time convincing an 8 to have sex with her”. Having to wait 3 hours is NOT having a hard time. Now admit your wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:28 PM
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Do you understand the difference between the words hard and harder? A man who is 5’4 is TALLER than a man who is 5’1”. But neither men are tall. They are SHORT A woman who wants to wait 3 hours have sex with an 8 would find it HARDER than waiting 15 minutes to sex with 5. But both are extremely EASY. What you are doing is changing the goalposts, as typical for most women. You originally said that it’s nearly impossible for a woman who is a 5 to have sex with a man who is an 8. Then you said it’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 05:01 PM
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Finding it technically “harder” to pickup an 8 does NOT mean having a hard time picking up an 8. If she has to spend 3 hours get sex with an 8 from a dating app vs 15 minutes to get sex with a 5 it makes absolutely no functional difference to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:42 PM
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You are wrong. Try the experiment
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:32 PM
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Try this experiment. Create a profile on a dating app of a 5/10 female and count the number of matches you get who are 8/10. Ask them if they’re willing to come to your house to have sex with you. That will prove that whatever you’re saying is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 03:13 PM
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An 8/10 Chad can pick a girl on their own level when he wants a relationship. But if he just wants sex it’s way easier for him to get with a 5/10 or 6/10 female than an 8/10 one. And in terms of enjoyment for him it’s not much different fucking a 5/10 vs an 8/10
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 04:41 AM
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That’s like asking someone who was born in North Korea whether someone who was born south of the border needs to struggle as hard as they did to just survive and make ends meet Ultimately it’s the guy’s choice whether he wants to put on that much effort to get laid or enter into a long term relationship. But yeah it’s important to make guys aware that chads, chadlites and high tier normies don’t even need to put in 1/10th the effort to get 10x the result of a sub 5 male. If they’re aware of it t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:24 PM
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Women do have high standards for the guys they find sexually attractive. It’s just that they’re willing to settle for less if it means they get to use sex as a weapon to get the things they want from him (affection, money, commitment, attention, etc) If you see the way women treat their chadlite or high tier normie boyfriend compared to a low tier normie BF, you as a low tier normie will never want to be in another relationship with a woman again. It would feel insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:35 PM
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Just change your genetics?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:26 PM
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Fair enough but most women don’t agree with you. They feel that their boyfriend or husband has to give them something in exchange for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:43 PM
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This is ridiculous. Many women have sex with their boyfriend or husband just to please him. They don’t actually enjoy the sex. They just do it because the boyfriend is committed to them in a long-term relationship, and they know that if they stop having sex with him, he will leave. How is this any different from prostitution by your logic? in both cases, the man is buying sex. One man does it through commitment. in the other, the man is buying sex with money. But in either case, the woman would …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:42 PM
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It just so happens he is in the top 20% of male height lmao. totally a coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 07:09 AM
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The nordic countries have the most generous policies to help new parents, yet they STILL have a below replacement fertility rate. I call BS on any such "baby boom"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:57 AM
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There is no point to respond to. I told you that you’re resorting to ad-hominem attacks because you know you’re wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:58 PM
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You are insulting the guy by calling him a “short heterosexual twink” instead of responding to his point. This is nothing but an ad-hominem attack. The only one here acting like a toddler is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:38 AM
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The point completely went over your head. Women claim the reason they don’t like to interact with certain men is because they’re afraid of them and fear for their safety. But their actions show you that they’re lying. Women usually date the men who are the most capable of being violent. A tall strong man doesn’t need a weapon to hurt you. He can literally grab your neck and snap it with one hand if he loses his temper. A short skinny guy needs a weapon to hurt you and you have a good chance at f…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 10:35 AM
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Really? People don’t believe in the 1-10 rating scale? At this point it’s obvious ur full of crap. Apparently in your world chris hemsworth is just as attractive as Peter Dinklage right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 03:31 AM
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Women collectively decided that they won’t disclose their body count to their partner to keep men in the dark. Women do the same thing when you ask them to rate themselves or other women. Nearly all women will just rate all other women and themselves as a 10, regardless of how attractive they actually are. This makes it effectively impossible for men to find out the woman’s bodycount. He had to guess by other factors (her family background, what kind of friends she has, how she dresses, etc). So…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 02:45 AM
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It would encourage people (especially women) to work through their problems instead of just leaving whenever they feel like it because they no longer get the tingles for their spouse. Marriage is supposed to be a commitment for life, and it’s not about love—It’s about creating a stable environment to raise children. If you aren’t willing to commit then don’t fucking get married. Stay in a live-in relationship. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that alternative if you don’t like the commitmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 02:37 AM
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It’s amazing the lengths women will go to somehow delude themselves into thinking that short men are more violent. In the real world, short men know that if they use violence to get what they want, they will get their ass beat. The fact that she is using the fact that criminals are shorter is disturbing. Somehow she ignores the fact that criminals come from poor backgrounds and that poor people are much shorter on average. But in the real world, as a guy the only time I’ve been physically threat…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 02:30 AM
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Okay fair enough. Women can date who they find attractive, but then they need to quit whining about how they are scared of most men. If they were really scared, they would all be getting training in how to use a firearms and in martial arts. This also means that they would date smaller men who feel less threatening and are much safer to be around. But that’s not what you see. You see these women dating tall giants who could pick them up and easily strangle them with one hand if they wanted. The …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 02:25 AM
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Why do women resort to ad-hominem attacks when they are losing an argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 02:14 AM
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Not saying anything is also lying. It’s lying by omission. The guy you are going to marry is definitely entitled to that information because it affects how he feels about marrying you. It’s like a man dating a woman and not telling her that he used to strangle puppies for fun in his free time but that he has changed now and would never do it again.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 02:08 AM
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I DO see ugly guys with women in public. But the women a who are with them are not affectionate towards them. They don’t initiate any physical contact. You can tell the women aren’t attracted to them by their body language alone. This usually happens when women get older. The blackpill does not say you can’t get any woman if you’re ugly or short. It says that the only women who will date you will do so because they want a beta provider to settle down with because Chad won’t commit and their biol…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:06 PM
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Most women DO do that. We can see it everyday with our own two eyes. The whole “business mode” thing you speak of is just an excuse. The younger couple I showed you at Costco was also shopping but the girl still put effort into her appearance and made physical contact with the guy. You are just trying to gaslight men!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:58 PM
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When women use the word plain, they actually mean ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:22 PM
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As I predicted, not a single one of them is willing to do the 30 minute experiment. They’re all making up BS excuses about how it’s weird or creepy to record people, when practically speaking they can just pretend they’re making a vlog or something. OP somehow thinks that indiscriminately recording people in public and actually seeing what the couples look like will somehow be more biased than a woke university study that proves nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:04 AM
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Again, who told you I’m not successful? Even if I wasn’t successful with women, it has no bearing on whether what I am telling you is true or not. You’re basically telling me a whole bunch of nonsense. I am telling you that ugly and short guys get treated terribly in relationships in 2024. This for some reason rubs you the wrong way so you resort to using ad hominem attacks to win the argument. You automatically assume I have zero luck with women. You call me a creep and a weirdo for showing you…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:40 AM
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They are entitled to withhold whatever they want. We are entitled to bail and not want to settle down with these women. You’ve called me a ton of names so far in this exchange. Very typical of women and bluepillers alike.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:32 AM
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What we want is consistency. If you are making us wait for sex we expect you to have done the same or longer with all of your previous partners. If a girl has had a one night stand in the past I am not gonna date her unless she also starts off our relationship with a one night stand. Quality of sex also matters. If I find out the girl used to give her previous partner BJs and no longer feels comfortable with it despite whatever I do to please her, I am bailing the fuck out. I’m not settling for …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:27 AM
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Wrong! Read what I wrote again. A beta provider is a guy who has to provide commitment in exchange for sex (i.e. he is sexually unattractive to women). Women make these men wait for sex and they use it as a tool to get what they want from him, usually a committed relationship, not because they enjoy it. When the guy can’t leave, often these women will stop having sex with their husband altogether, and then blame it something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:20 AM
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When did I mention anything about me not getting laid in this post? Who told you I was following these couples? Of course you’re going to make the worst possible assumption. I took these photos randomly as evidence how you’ll get treated in a relationship when you finally do settle for being a beta provider. I never once followed anyone. This something you’re telling yourself so that you can feel like the better person. Again you’re straw manning and trying to vilify me. Why not focus on my orig…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:14 AM
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Classic bluepiller tactic. When you know you’re wrong just vilify the other person. Instead of addressing the points I was making, you’re just resorting to ad-hominem attacks, calling me weird, creepy, that women don’t like me, etc. In this whole thread I never once mentioned anything about my own dating life. I could be a chad or a virgin incel and it would make zero difference because I am talking about other people, not myself. Yet here you are vilifying me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:09 AM
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What did I write just after that? Or do you always take things out of context?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:06 AM
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What did I just say? Young couples also behave the same way with eachother when the guy is ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:04 AM
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Yes I’ve seen those and they only support what I already believe
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:03 AM
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Ohh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:59 AM
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The way the older woman is treating her husband is the same way non-Hispanic women treat ugly and short guys in relationships even when younger. No touching, no leaning, or PDA in public. With tall handsome guys it’s the complete opposite. Keep making excuses. If you wanna prove me wrong then go outside with a video camera and show me what young couples are like where you live.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:59 AM
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1995 is nearly 30 years ago not 20. Also earlier you said he was 5’8, now 5’7? Which one is it? Again you completely miss the point. Social media has inflated people’s standards and woman can literally bring a chad to her house in under 20 minutes on dating apps. Chads can do the same with ugly women. This was not possible in ur generation
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:54 AM
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You forgot to mention that you’re old and you met him 30 years ago. That was a completely different time period before social media and dating apps. Now it has gotten much worse. Why don’t you go outside and see how couples under 25 look like compared to your generation?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:48 AM
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First of all 5’8 is not short. It’s literally 1 inch below average for your generation. It’s like calling a woman who is 5’4 as short. Second, you met him in 1995?? That doesn’t count. That was before social media and dating apps. Why do you even think your opinion is relevant for zoomers who are trying to date in 2024? Of course even today some short ugly guys have girlfriends but the girls don’t treat them that well. They have to wait until their late 20s when women are ready to settle down an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:46 AM
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The men I called “beta providers” are providing commitment to a woman in exchange for sex. You never mentioned anything about what your husband looks like. What is his height and how would you rate his face. Are you willing to post a photo of you two together with your faces covered?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:40 AM
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I am not talking about older couples who are married. I am taking about young couples in their early to mid 20s where the priority is not getting married and settling down.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:34 AM
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You’re the one who made this post asking us what evidence would change our mind. I am telling u the evidence that would change my mind. It’s simple. Go out in public, record what young couples look like, and show me. Yet you refuse to give it and somehow expect me to believe something that I cannot see with my own two eyes. The people who conduct these studies are the same ones who try to convince us that there are no meaningful differences between races when we all know that isn’t true. Literal…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:31 AM
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How do you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 06:07 AM
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No I don’t trust the studies. The people who conduct can cherry pick evidence as they want to further their woke agenda. These are the same places that convince you that there are no meaningful differences between races and that race is a social construct. Show me the evidence that YOU see. Record the video. Surely if the study is true the video must also reflect it right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:47 AM
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When these “plain looking guys” go out In public, does their girlfriend lean against them, hold their waist or arm, and do a lot of kissing and make physical contact? Did she make him wait a long time to have sex? Do they have sex regularly? Who tf mentioned anything about money?? Women mostly settle down because they want to start a family, not because of money. Why do you keep putting words in my mouth?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:46 AM
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Again I dont trust studies that are funded by woke universities. They are incentivized to perpetuate the blue pill. Funny you keep showing me studies but refuse to do the 30 minute experiment I told you to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:43 AM
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The way women treat ugly short guys is completely different from the way they treat handsome tall guys. I am not “assuming”. I see this every day when I’m out in public. Their body language and demeanor is completely different. Try again
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:40 AM
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My experience is that ugly guys find it nearly impossible to “click” with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:38 AM
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What evidence do you have that I make that assumption based on looks alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:36 AM
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Are you hallucinating?? Show me where I mentioned the word “brains” or “personality” in the comment you are replying to. What are you even trying to say? Is English your first language?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:28 AM
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Why is it that you people always resort to straw manning?? Who the hell said anything about stacies? What does a woman looking for a beta provider have anything to do with her being a Stacy?! What would disprove the black pill are women going for THEIR LOOKSMATCH and treating their looks match THE SAME WAY they would treat a chad. Not women getting pumped and dumped by charming their early 20s and settling for some beta provider she isn’t sexually attracted to in her late 20s or early 30s Holy f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 04:28 AM
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What the fuck? Entire human race??? Are you telling me you’ve never heard of something called a “sample”?? Do you seriously think employers should not discriminate on the basis of education and experience? According to your logic, How dare the hiring manager not hire someone who flunked highschool! After all, he can’t possibly form an opinion on millions of highschool dropouts from just a few bad apples he has met. Am I right?? If you think my experiment is full of shit, you can do it multiple t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 04:22 AM
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You’re the ones who refuse to provide any evidence. Do one simple experiment, go outside in public and record what the couples look like. Ideally it should be a place where young couples in their early 20s hang out like malls, movie theaters, boardwalk beach or any downtown shopping districts. In this video, show me the examples of couples where the girl is clearly attracted to the guy (I.e she is going close to him or leaning against him when walking with him in public), and she is putting effo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 04:15 AM
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Again, I would change my mind if you did this simple 30 minute experiment where you just show me what the couples look like at your local mall, movie theater, or downtownshopping district. But you refuse to do it. Seems like you are the cult member here since you refuse to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 04:06 AM
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It’s still on you to change my opinion because I’m not the bluepiller here. Regarding the experiment you’re just making excuses. Plenty of people make such videos all the time. You can see tons of people recording others in public when they are making vlogs. This is not at all illegal. If I made this video and showed you, you’d claim that I cherry-picked the couples. That’s why I am asking YOU to do it. Turn on your phone’s camera and just record any mall, movie theater lobby, or downtown shoppi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 04:01 AM
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The fact that you fight tooth and nail to not do this simple experiment tells me you’re not acting in good faith. To make things clear, you are the one who made this post asking what evidence you’ll need to change my opinion. I am telling you the evidence that would change my mind. Just go out in public and show me examples of non-Hispanic young couples where the girl is clearly attracted to the guy. And instead of just doing the simple experiment this week, you just call it “dumb” and make coun…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:50 AM
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Also, I find it funny that I mentioned all sorts of different ways you can do this experiment. But you seem to have only latched onto the clubs and dating apps because you have an excuse for them. Why didn't you say anything about malls or movie theaters the first time around?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:39 AM
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If you record couples in places I tend to think most people look average This is another issue with bluepillers. They throw around the word "average" when it's completely meaningless when it comes to dating. a 5'11 white guy with a 6/10 face and a 5'8 Indian guy with a 4/10 face are both "average" but the former will completely obliterate the other guy when it comes to dating. If you don't believe me just create profiles for them on dating apps and show me the results. The same thing will be ref…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 03:29 AM
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What about malls, movie theaters, or shopping districts?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:42 AM
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Dude that’s just some random article that some bluepiller wrote. Show me videos of malls, movie theaters, clubs, etc where short guys are doing well. or you can do dating app experiments. This is the problem with you people. Zero evidence. Btw the video can’t be cherry picked. Do this experiment practically. Just go to a mall or movie theater tonight or this weekend, record what the couples look like, upload it to YouTube, and then reply to me when you have the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:29 AM
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Why should we believe something that goes against our own experience without strong evidence? Every blue piller keeps yapping about how they “know a guy” who is short, ugly and does well with women. Why do I never see these guys in public? Can you show me a video of some random mall or movie theater in the US where you see a bunch of these short ugly guys with girlfriends who treat them like they would treat a 6/10 or above guy? How about a dating app experiment?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:20 AM
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Whether looks matters 100% or 95%, it’s irrelevant practically speaking. If you have a group of 100 random dudes who are sexually unattractive to women, nearly all of them are sexually unattractive because of their looks and height, not because of their personality. The problem with the blue pill is that it is assumes that anyone who struggles with dating has a bad personality, when in reality is nearly always their looks and height that’s the problem. Unfortunately we grow up constantly hearing…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:06 AM
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There is nothing offensive about wanting to have sex with someone you’re attracted to. There IS something very offensive about having sex with a bunch of attractive guys in your youth, then settling with an ugly guy on your level and pretending like you hate sex, when in reality you like to have sex, just not with the guy who is willing to marry you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:53 AM
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Nearly every guy would love it if you approached him and were more assertive. Just try this with guys you match with on dating apps. You’ll have way more success being assertive than passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:47 AM
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Not sure about the red pill, but regarding the black pill, It would be hard for you to convince me that the black pill isn’t real because of the evidence I see every day with my own eyes. What you would have to do are show me things like dating app experiments where you have a guy with a good personality and good hobbies but ugly face and short height doing well on dating apps (I.e. women treating him like a chad). But that doesn’t happen practically. The only women who match with these guys are…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 01:46 AM
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Hillbillies and drug addicts don’t count
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 03:17 PM
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Your response has nothing to do with the point I was making
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 12:51 AM
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Nope I don’t agree. If my wife drugs me and rapes me there is a power imbalance while I am intoxicated but I still don’t give a shit if she rapes me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 12:43 AM
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And what if she does drug me? I still won’t give a shit if my wife rapes me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 12:12 AM
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Lmao. You expect us to believe that when I almost never see a non-Hispanic couple under the age of 25 where the guy is ugly. It’s like 20x more common to see an ugly young woman in a relationship than an ugly young man. It doesn’t change until the woman is ready to “settle down”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 12:03 AM
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There are tons of things that women expect men to empathize with (for example spousal rape) that we think are ridiculous from our perspective. Like I’m somehow supposed to be traumatized if my wife raped me? If I don’t like having sex with her I’ll just get a divorce instead of going to the police and crying rape as if she was a random stranger. Yet the norm is to accept a woman’s feelings as valid and legitimate no matter what. If you think it’s fine to not take men’s issues seriously then we d…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 11:57 PM
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Most of these dudes blame their genetics for being ugly, not women for not desiring them. When they do blame women, it’s because women constantly lie and try to gaslight them into thinking that it’s their personality that’s the issue and not their looks
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 11:46 PM
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Chad is not a concept. It literally synonymous for “tall handsome white guy”. Yes the term absolutely has its place in adult relationships. Women of all races in the US treat tall handsome white guys the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 11:34 PM
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They throw all these requirements out the window when Chad shows up. Seeing how women behave in front of chads made me lose all empathy for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 11:22 PM
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So you as a woman are telling me as a man which message I should like better. Alright 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:02 PM
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I don't buy that younger women are "more fun to be around" for older men and I don't buy that this assertion is anything but an excuse to overvalue youth in a woman's sexual attractiveness. Men spend thousands of hours of their lives watching porn in which youth is fetishized and then want to act like there's any legitimacy to the notion that they're looking for anything non-superficial by chasing after younger women. You don't need to "buy" into anything. Men are the ones telling you their expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:33 AM
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I had sex with a girl one time in 2022 and some prostitutes in 2020. But the first time I had sex in a relationship was in Korea about 1 month ago
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 01:37 AM
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Ok, sure, whatever you need to tell yourself. Don't care, I don't buy it. Don't buy what? Which parts specifically? I wouldn't want physical contact with older men who prefer the company of nineteen year olds either. I don't understand... are you implying these older women can somehow predict the future? That 1 1/2 years later I'd meet a 19 year old, and that because of their ability to see the future, they didn't want to be in physical contact with me? How would they know the age of the girl I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:47 PM
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This is not true. Younger women 18-25 are more fun to be around and have genuinely better personalities than older ones 26-35. After around age 35 or 40 it changes again. But 26-40 seems to be the no-go zone because this age range is where women are desperate to settle down, get married and start a family. They put on this fake professional/serious persona, which completely takes the fun out of dating. I can give you examples... this is how a 30 y/o woman I was dating for 6 months texted me. Eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:34 PM
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also your whole premise is run on the fact that chad gets more. Your judgement is entirely clouded by envy and every point you’ve argued is built on that envious, bordering on vengeful mindset. “well if non chads can’t lie to get causal sex THEN THERE SHOLD BE NO CAUSAL SEX” Yes 100%. Plenty of cultures throughout the world put restrictions on sex outside of marriage for this very reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:07 PM
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It doesn't matter whether it's a person or a business. If there were some parents who had two kids, and they always favor one kid over the other, I am not going to shame the kid who is treated badly having to lie and cheat to get what he wants. It's like your older brother is handsome, tall, and attractive but he's a lazy slob, but just because he is good looking, your parents are always buying him nice gifts, taking him on trips to disneyland, and letting him do whatever you want. On the other …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:04 PM
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2) for the 7 millionth time, im not against casual sex. I’m against people lying and manipulating to get it - the fact that you can’t differentiate between the two is troubling I can differentiate between the two. I just don't give a shit. If you want men to not lie and manipulate to get casual sex, try to advocate for casual sex no longer being socially acceptable. If some men can ONLY get casual sex by lying and manipulating, who the fuck are you to judge if other men are getting it for free? …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:51 PM
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You keep talking like i’m against causal sex. Do your thing, seriously. Have fun - just don’t be a lying douche about it, it’s literally that simple Again, why? Some guys need to lie to get casual sex, others don't. Personally I never lied to get sex. But zero shame for guys who gotta do to get what they want. if you wanna be one, hey, do your thing, just don’t be surprised when you come out of all of this hollow and unfulfilled once your bs catches up to you Lmao, another example of shaming tac…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:37 PM
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So you should only act to your benefit only, even if it is at the cost of others? even it means throwing away one’s own honesty and integrity for the sake of sex? Yes 100%. It's 2024. We should act for our own benefit and not give a fuck about others. IDGAF about honesty and integrity when chads can literally make out with chicks after speaking with them for 2 minutes and sleep with them after a 30 minute conversation. I recommend every sub 5 man in the US to create a fake Tinder account as a 6/…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:31 PM
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if you thought this was about being chaste you’ve missed my point entirely. Hook up, fuck around, do whatever you want - just don’t feel the need tot take advantage of others to do it, this ain’t about hookups vs long term relationships, it’s about not manipulating people and damaging them more so you can get what you want. Why? How does this benefit men? “but chad does it too” is an awful excuse btw - obviously if chad is manipulating women into sex, he’s wrong, your response shouldn’t be to al…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:19 PM
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Below average looking women have to deal with this because chads or chadlites won't commit to them. Above average looking women don't have this problem because they actually find their looksmatch as sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:59 PM
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You can if you move to a country where most of the men are ugly. Or you can just enter into a short term relationship with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:56 PM
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You don't get it. Even if every redpill man stopped doing what he did to get sex, women would still get pumped and dumped by chads. Their value for a marriage or long term relationship would remain unchanged in our eyes regardless of what we do because of what chads do, not what we do. Most redpill men don't see modern women as marriage material because of the normalization of hookup culture and casual sex. Even though there are many women out there who don't participate in hookup culture. There…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:54 PM
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So then are you a 5 and below? Yes I am 4/10 in SMV. Below average but not ugly. Maybe the problem is that you have a low opinion of yourself So what are you trying to say? That 4/10 men do not exist? Do you honestly think that guy who is claims he is a 4/10 is actually a 10/10 chad with low self esteem? This is pure delusion. Not surprising considering all shorts I've seen on YT of even 2/10 women claiming they are 10/10 when asked to rate themselves. and see relationships as a form of validati…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:09 PM
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We don’t want you to settle after spending your 20s hooking up with chads. We want you to do it in your early 20s. I have zero interest in marrying or entering a long term relationship with a woman who spent her 20s getting railed by 6/10 and above guys who she fucked after having met them a few hours prior
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:49 PM
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I don't think any woman is "too picky" in the context of dating. Usually the reason men say this is that they assume women and men operate the same way when it comes to rating the opposite sex. Example of a person being picky: Bob's car was recently totalled in an accident and he is relying on Uber or friends to take him to work every day. The insurance company gave him $20,000, but instead of using that to buy something like a nice used Toyota Camry, he thinks that he can somehow get lucky and …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:08 PM
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My experiences as a 4/10 guy... Some 3/10 chick I was in a long distance relationship with telling me that she loves me so much and that she can never leave me. Two weeks later she meets some 6/10 chadlite and her demeanor immediately changes. She starts acting cold and distant. Later she cheats on me with the dude. At first I thought this was an isolated incident, but then the same thing happened to me twice. Later I realized I can do the same with other women in relationships if the guy they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 03:43 AM
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Look, none of the women are going to acknowledge this 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:29 PM
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I don't believe they are the same thing at all. falling in love with someone is a totally different feeling from being their friend, even in the absense of sex. However it's not really possible for me to fall in love with a girl who has had sex with other guys before, unless she also wants to have sex with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:36 AM
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I guess that’s true. I’ve seen many Reddit posts where tall women talk about how feminine they felt when they were finally able to date a guy who was significantly taller. But because they’ve been starved of that feeling for so long, I don’t think they demand a significant height difference the same way short women do. That being said, most tall women seem to be disgusted by the idea of dating a guy who is shorter than her and try to push the idea that dating a guy under 5’11 is abnormal. I saw …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 01:02 AM
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Lol what. 8 inches more than 5'4 is 6'0" not 6'2". Shorter women desire a bigger height difference than taller ones. The real people who get fucked over by this standard are guys in the bottom 50% of height (5'9 or below). A girl who is 5'3 would want at least a 7 inch difference. A girl who is 5'6" would be okay with only a 5 inch difference. In other words, a girl losing 3 inches in height only reduces her height requirements for men by about 1 inch. I thiink the study showed that if you go fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:24 PM
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This is the true answer. The only exception to this are chads. They can desire something and still not be seen as entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:15 PM
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Isn't it frustrating at this point? You explained your point clearly and simply, so that even a 5 year old would understand, yet she deliberately misinterpreted it to paint women in better light. I have experienced the same thing when trying to explain something to other women. They get all defensive and start attacking me if it even remotely makes women look bad. They also do the same thing where they misinterpret the things I say or blow things out of proportion. This even happens with very in…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 04:15 AM
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I mean in the US. You don’t need an education to work for Amazon.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 11:14 PM
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What’s stopping them from working at McDonalds or an Amazon warehouse? At Amazon they’ll literally hire anyone with a pulse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 10:34 PM
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If they are so exploitative, why do these women in poor countries agree to be in them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 10:33 PM
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Bro are you serious? Why don't you try photoshopping yourself to look 5'5 and then create a profile on Bumble with those pictures and your height listed as 5'5 to see how many matches you get. Out of the few matches you do get, how many would you consider to be attractive enough to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 12:04 AM
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I've actually never once seen a woman age 30 that could pass for being a teenager without really good makeup, lighting and angles. The oldest you could go is maybe 24-25, but after that women start to age rapidly. I've found aging for women to be like a cliff, where you have some women in their mid 20s who can pass for being teenagers, and some women in their mid 30s who can pass for being 25, but I've never once seen for instance a 35 y/o woman who could pass for being 20 or something. By "pass…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 11:38 PM
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It is easy for a guy to sleep with women uglier than him. You are right.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 11:28 PM
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This simply doesn't happen. Nearly all men consider like 90% of women to be sexually attractive enough to sleep with. This might change if there are other factors involved, like if the guy is afraid of false SA, rumors, demands for a relationship, STDs, bad hygiene, or simply for religious reasons. But if you could somehow eliminate the above factors, I'd say that nearly all men would sleep with nearly all woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 11:26 PM
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I don’t think they are the main factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:02 PM
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Pretty much always. Whether or not I care depends on other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:49 AM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 10:58 AM
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Not really. Even Margot Robbie doesn’t mog a 80th percentile 22 y/o female college student.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 02:15 AM
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Exactly I do not hate women for being unattractive. I hate my parents for deciding to have me and not doing everything within their power to make me turn out an attractive adult. I also hate ugly, short and stupid parents who decide to have kids knowing that their kids will struggle in the future. At the very least they can use an egg or sperm donor to compensate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:04 AM
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The wall only matters when forming a NEW relationship. Not keeping an existing relationship. If a woman decided to date me when she is young and attractive, I’m not gonna break up with her when she is older because she got wrinkles or stretch marks from pregnancy. That’s a shitty thing to do to someone who gave you their best years. If a guy abandons his wife just because she is aging, that makes him a terrible person and he should be called out for it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:46 PM
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1) “hive-mind” does not mean most women are kind and compassionate. It is said in response to the phrase we keep hearing over and over again “women are not a monolith”. Women ARE a monolith. They just pretend not to be. For example there is a racial hierarchy when it comes to dating. People with Eurocentric features are considered more attractive by nearly all women. But if you point it out then they completely deny it and try to gaslight you or somehow frame themselves as the victim and that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:44 PM
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If women are not honest about their past and how much more they expect from you than their past partners, men should not be honest about their intentions. IMO these women don’t deserve honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:37 PM
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Your analogy completely misses the point. You are implying 3 things that aren’t at all accurate. 1) this was just a one time thing. Not something you did repeatedly. 2) mark (and every guy you let into your house) and you are equal in attractiveness. Not that mark (and other guys you treated like mark) are chads and you’re a normie. 3) it was not an enjoyable experience for you. Not something where you loved having guys who look like mark in your house. But you are disgusted by the idea of you l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 11:30 PM
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I don’t know for sure the exact number… I just ask or infer from other factors what her body count probably is (age, lifestyle, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:54 PM
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Actually I misspoke. It’s not body count itself that matters. It’s body count in relation to how sexually attractive she finds me and how much she is willing to please me sexually. Usually I infer body count by asking her things like how many exes she’s had before or any experiences with hookups. If a girl has a high body count but doesn’t want to have sex with me right away and tries to frame it as some kind of taboo dirty thing, it’s an instant no from my side. The only time I’ll put up with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:52 PM
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There are two main factors usually involved. One is body count. The other is how physically attractive the woman is. Then there are smaller factors like neuroticism, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 10:52 PM
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A lot of female friends of mine struggled to find a man that would commit, because despite lowering their standards so low that they got treated very poorly in the relationship or was paying off the guy's debt/cleaning his room, he still wouldn't put a ring on their finger. Or would lie he wanted commitment and then move onto the next girl to split rent with in this expensive housing market. Standards has nothing to do with those things you mentioned. How tall were those guys? How ugly were they…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:12 AM
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Those things have nothing to do with your gender. Men can also experience those. I was talking about the issues women complain about that men don’t have to experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:13 PM
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No I don't empathize with them, especially in the dating scene. Nearly every problem they complain about is completely avoidable. The only thing I do empathize with them on is menstural pain. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:45 AM
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Okay I will DM you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:38 PM
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I could give u screenshots but how am I supposed to prove their age?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:25 PM
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I get along better with younger women living in foreign countries because they haven’t yet been pumped and dumped by chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:19 PM
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Idk it’s always been easy for me to get into a relationship with a much younger woman than an older one. But if the data says something different from my personal experience who am I to speak
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 03:13 PM
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Whether or not they are a celebrity is irrelevant. Oscar Isaac is only 5’10 with a high tier normie face and he still has fan girls. Heck I have seen some college students crushing on their professors
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 02:07 PM
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I mean… there is also me. I’m a 4/10 dude and 30 yrs old. I’m in a relationship with a 3/10 girl who is 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 05:42 AM
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I think men and women both decline with age but the decline for women is much steeper. Young women still thirst after handsome older guys in their 40s like Henry Cavill or Oscar Isaac, but I don’t know a single dude who thirsts after their female equivalent (like Megan Fox or Angelina Jolie).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 05:39 AM
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Yes, here in the US I had zero luck dating and I was miserable. Then I became a passport bro and I don’t have to jump through hoops anymore to get sex or affection. I am much happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 01:36 AM
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Yes, if she has only hooked up with ugly dudes in the past it tells me that she has low standards which is a huge green flag IMO. I hate women who have high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 01:32 AM
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ABCD chicks are the worst bro… for casual dating had 10x better luck being a passport bro and getting with girls living in the mother land.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:30 PM
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Are u fucking serious? Go ask women this question in any other forum where they aren’t aware of the intentions of the questioner
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:27 AM
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This is retarded. If you paired men and women together randomly, 1 in 7 pairs would have the woman be taller than the man. But in reality, less than 1% of relationships involve the woman being taller. How the heck do you get from 1 in 7 to sub 1 in 100
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 09:26 AM
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Lmao so it must be the case that the hot tall guy with tattoos is an extrovert and fun to be around. Whereas the short IT guy is boring and has no friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:29 AM
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Because smart, conscientious, below-average looking women who are interested in a long term relationship will intuitively know that hot chadlites are willing to fuck them but won’t commit. They will also realize that having a large sexual history makes them less desirable for a long term relationship and also makes themselves more likely to be unhappy for the man who she ultimately settles for. The whole “different values” thing is bullshit. If that were true you’d see 5’3 balding Indian guys wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:09 AM
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Depends on how your face looks. Your height makes u a niche chadlite at the very least.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 04:03 AM
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Ur completely wrong. Less selective women don’t “screw the first dick that walks through the door” unless he is a chad or chadlite. IDGAF about chads. Sexually conservative women on the other hand haven’t been pumped and dumped by chads so they’re actually capable of being sexually attracted to an average looking man in a marriage. A less selective woman will be upset that she couldn’t get Chad to commit and had to settle for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 03:48 AM
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Race has everything to do with this. For some reason Hispanic guys are immune to the black pill. I always see them with women despite being short. I believe you are an exception because of what I see when I go out in public, not because of some other stupid reason. Go ask yourself why /r/short is so much more negative than /r/tall for starters, or why short guys are 3x more likely to commit suicide than average height or tall guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 09:05 PM
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You are an exception to the rule and also grew up in a different era. I’ve never met a 5’2 guy who had a girlfriend who was into him unless he was Hispanic. Also your sons won’t experience it either because they are tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 08:53 PM
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Yes 100% I don’t know why the OP left this out. The alternative to a marrying sexually conservative woman would be marrying a sexually liberal woman with whom you not only have to deal with the disgust factor, but you also get a shittier sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:47 PM
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Amazing. We’re both relationship twins 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:30 PM
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It is for men. Not women. I am in a relationship now with a 20 y/o virgin and she has done more with me physically than any previous woman I dated. And that makes me happy and desire her more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:13 PM
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lol so I should conclude the opposite to what my own two eyes are telling me. Alright
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:05 PM
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This is basic common sense. If nearly all the guys I see who struggle with dead bedrooms are ugly and short, what am I supposed to conclude?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:49 PM
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The only thing wrong with them is that they are ugly, short and agreeable. Yes about half of them are married.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:58 PM
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I speak from experience. None of my ugly / short friends get easy sex. They have dead bedrooms
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:56 PM
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So women who never wanted to have sex with ugly guys in the past will magically find them sexually attractive after they get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:55 PM
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Then why is it impossible for ugly guys to get casual sex? Why are there so many guys on tinder who get zero matches ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:50 PM
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Women like sex but only with chads, not with the beta provider they have to settle down with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 03:42 PM
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100% bro. It’s shocking how women keep expecting us to believe the opposite of reality as though we are somehow stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:48 PM
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I am not sexually conservative. I want to be with a woman who is the most sexually attracted to me. That’s all. Sexually conservative women have much lower standards for attraction due to the lack of experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:23 PM
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That’s a big lie that women often tell men, and it also makes absolutely zero logical sense. If you have two people who are forced to eat mediocre food for the rest of their life, which person do you think would be happier? The person who spent their whole previous life eating at Michelin star restaurant? Or the person who had only previously eaten only bland, shitty food? Virgins or inexperienced women are attracted to average looking men because they don’t have anything to compare them against…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:17 PM
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Women with more sexual history are not attracted to average or below average men. Women with less sexual history are. That has been my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:54 PM
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You are completely wrong in thinking that a woman being sexually liberal somehow means that she is going to enjoy having sex with the provider she eventually settles down with. AKA me. Scenario 1: I marry a sexually conservative woman who gives me boring duty sex. She does not cheat on me because she sees it as morally wrong Scenario 2: I marry a sexually liberal woman who doesn’t want to have sex with me at all. She always gives lame excuses like headaches even though we both know the reason sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:16 AM
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My experience was completely the opposite. It was the less experienced women who wanted to do more with me, and the more experienced women who wanted to do less. Why would any highly experienced woman want to have sex with me when she has already experienced sex with 6’4 chads?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:37 AM
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Yes 100%. I used to be an incel and feel like a complete piece of shit. But now that I have a gf who is genuinely attracted to me I feel great.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 11:59 PM
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Second one
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 11:57 PM
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Women who don’t have inflated self worth (nothing turns me off more than a 4 who thinks she is a 10) Women who don’t have a victim mentality Women who are assertive and manipulative Basically the opposite of my mom
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 11:16 PM
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Whether or not someone is lonely depends on how they feel, not your definition
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:42 PM
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Again, most men are not gay. You can give a heterosexual male 100 other male friends and he will still feel lonely if women act as though he is infected with some kind of disease when he goes out in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:31 PM
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Because most men are not gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 05:59 PM
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Oh yeah for sure, by ugly I meant any man that evokes a negative reaction in women from the way he looks. I think this would be the bottom 50-60% of men. But if you're in the bottom 30% it gets a lot worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 06:02 AM
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You do realize how women treat ugly men right? I've sometimes gone to a movie theater to watch a movie. If there is a woman there within 2 rows of me, she will literally get out of her seat and move all the way to the front row as though I'm some kind of rapist. This has happened multiple times when I am there. In fact I can recall only one single time in my life (October 2016) where a woman did not try to sit as far as possible from me on public transport. That's how rare it is. And you don't t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:36 AM
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He literally told him she wanted to be his bf and then said no over text later… how is this not mind fucking?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:53 PM
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I'd have to agree. I am 30 and dating a girl who is 20. I didn't meet her off a dating app. We met organically. Dating her was 10x easier than dating someone my own age. In fact I've always had a way easier time with girls much younger than me (5 year plus age gap) compared to women my own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:24 AM
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Not true at all. The only consequence of this would be women having more casual sex with the same group of top 20% chads. This does absolutely nothing to make casual sex easier to attain for the bottom 60% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:53 AM
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Lmao you mean to tell me there most guys would be genuinely attracted to this woman? https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/licensed-image?q=tbn:ANd9GcRWRKCuESW8Ph_4d-TexHlNUSCyTypR3ovCOr0vXigkcR6yadvWkAng1TB6c6KkoO83Q4qbmWNlLTaV5xY I just went to a random YT video of Jennifer Lopez's concert and 95% of the commenters are other women: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5q1waxSH-c Now contrast this to one of Oscar Issac and at least half the commenters are women: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwNf4Lq…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 01:08 AM
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My point is the decline is much steeper for women. An attractive 40 year old man is much more attractive than an average 20 year old guy. Many women still have crushes on male actors who are much older than them. My gf has a crush on Paul's father from Dune. The actor is 45 years old and looks like this: https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2021/10/21/gettyimages-1205168026_wide-5d4d8d1460fe7cd307814a4f3a1835ccb26abc9c-s1100-c50.jpg Hernan Drago is 48 and looks like this: https://preview.redd.it/rat…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 12:18 AM
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It’s really simple. How old a woman looks is a much bigger factor in her attractiveness than it is for men. If a woman looks 45 years old, most men would not find her that physically attractive. The same isn’t the case for a man who looks 45. OP used examples of things like balding and weight gain to prove her point. None of these things are directly linked to age. They’re the result of poor lifestyle choices. You can be totally bald at 25 and still look like you’re 25. Similarly you can have al…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 11:46 PM
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You’re telling me you’ve never done anything for another person that you don’t personally enjoy doing? Are you aware that sometimes people do things for other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 09:08 PM
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No I don’t care and yes I would. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:18 AM
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I don’t care. I only care if she is attracted to me if she isn’t a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 01:32 AM
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Lmao. So you expect guys to get into a relationship with a women where they get nothing in return? News flash. 90% of guys would not get into a relationship with a woman. If it meant they would not be able to have sex and 99% of them would reject the idea if they also found out if she was not a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 11:31 PM
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Because many guys would not even want to move forward in a relationship if they knew the woman was being very sexually restrictive with him compared to her past partners Part of "being sold on" a woman involves knowing her sexual history and compares to how sexual she is with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 10:09 PM
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You don't get it. If the guy knows that she is being sexually restrictive with him compared to her past partners, he wouldn't fall in love with her in the first place. I don't see why this is so hard for you to understand. Most men would love if it a beautiful women was willing to have sex with them in exchange for zero commitment or love whatsoever. This is a much better deal than a long term relationship where consistent sex may or may not be guaranteed. With casual sex, the guy doesn't have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 10:06 PM
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Aging for men and women is totally different. First, it's important to draw a distinction between the actual aging process (meaning whatever changes take place in a person's face that allows you to accurately guess their age), v/s isolated changes in physical traits that are just somewhat correlated with a man's age but not directly linked (obesity, balding, erectile dysfunction, etc.) All of the issues you listed do for sure make men unattractive, but those things are only loosely correlated wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 10:00 PM
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I would definitely be okay with it if the girl was at least 6.5/10 in looks and a virgin. My parents also had an arranged marriage. But these days most women are not virgins before marriage so I am not okay with it. Ideally yeah I'd like to be with a woman who is sexually attracted to me. But if she is a virgin then it's not that big of a concern as long as she ticks the other boxes. If it's a love marriage on the other hand, I'd definitely want someone who is sexually attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 06:04 PM
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You're telling me I won't find 3/10 and 4/10 women physically attractive?? How can you assume that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 06:00 PM
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Most men don't want to be in a long term relationship with a woman who is more sexually restrictive with him than she was with any of her previous partners. They are okay having casual sex with such a woman, but not entering into a long term relationship. They find the idea of being in a relationship with such a woman as disgusting and revolting. As for why? I don't know. There's probably some reason behind it in our evolutionary past where guys who cared about their long term partner's sexual h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 05:40 PM
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Not at all. I have a female friend who finds me ugly and would never date me specifically because of how I look and my height, but I respect her because she is 100% honest about it and does not sugar coat it. On the other hand, I have zero respect for women who try and gaslight me into thinking it’s my personality that’s the issue when they literally ignore every red flag if the guy is attractive. And no, lying is not a “communication style”. It’s just lying. Telling a guy you don’t want to date…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 10:44 PM
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My bad I misread what u wrote
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 10:05 PM
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Body count refers to the number of different guys… not the number of times u have had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:29 PM
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What’s your point? There’s a huge correlation between age and body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:48 PM
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It absolutely does. I don’t know a single 30 y/o woman who is a virgin, but I knew plenty of 20 yr olds who were
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:23 PM
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You couldn’t be more wrong. I’m a late bloomer dating a chick who is a lot younger than me (10 yr gap). Trust me it’s way better than dating a someone my own age. I tried dating women my own age for over a year and it was nothing but a huge waste of time. Older women take the fun out of dating and treat the whole thing like a job interview or business transaction. The overall feeling I get is they’ve all “been there done that” and are now just looking for a beta provider to settle down with.🤢 hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:18 PM
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I travelled to India and met two of them so far in person. Two more I will meet later this year (one in Korea, one in China)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:32 AM
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They would rather be with a broke white American dude then an ugly rich Asian American
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:31 AM
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This is retarded. The real reason they prefer white dudes over southeast Asians is because white guys are considered more attractive than southeast Asian men by like 95% of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:25 AM
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The reason we say they are irrational is they behave like complete psychopaths. If you try to bring up men’s issues they start using ad-hominem attacks to discredit you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 12:35 AM
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Bro this is retarded. I get 100x more positive attention in India than I do here in the US. I literally have 5 chicks interested in me who are located overseas and I put in very little effort. Here in the US I tried to date for a whole year and got zero results.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 12:33 AM
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Funny that almost every guy in those erotic novels is a tall Chad, yet you claim it’s not about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:31 PM
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That may have been your experience but mine was the total opposite. either the woman kissed me on the very first date, or she never did, not even after dating for 6 months. Now that i became a passport bro I don’t have to deal with women who play stupid games like this anymore. With foreign women I meet online, we always kiss on the very first meeting. Dating in America on the other hand is like playing a game on nightmare mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:05 AM
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Why do I have to justify it? I’m just disgusted by the idea of being in a relationship with a woman who doesn’t meet either of these two standards. It’s just like how women are disgusted by the idea of dating a guy who is 6 inches shorter than herself. Most women would rather be single than date such a guy. Similarly I’d rather be single than date a woman who isn’t initially sexually attracted to me or a virgin. At the end of the day, we don’t have to justify our preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:37 AM
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There are only two scenarios in which I’d enter into a long term relationship with a woman 1) woman is very sexually attracted to me (I.e. the relationship started off based on physical attraction and sex or at least kissing took place on the first meeting) 2) woman is a virgin (no previous sex partners, not even BJ, or handjobs) Your scenario doesn’t meet either of these two standards so I would not date that hypothetical woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:23 AM
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I am a man and I relate 0% with this. The only thing that makes me feel sexy is a woman wanting to have sex with me…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:43 AM
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If u don’t say no ur not a rape victim as far as I’m concerned. Using the same logic you can also use neuroscience to justify things like serial killers and pedos, but you don’t see people going around defending their mental disorders do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 11:03 PM
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Yeah… so at the end of the day you want me to empathize with people who are incapable of even saying “no” or “stop” to help themselves. No thanks. They can either seek out help for their mental disorder, or continue to get fucked. Tired of this female victim mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 10:55 PM
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The reason deer freeze up is because they’re mentally deficient and incapable of realizing they’re gonna get hit by a car and maybe they should move out of the way. You can’t compare a woman to a deer, unless you’re implying women are also mentally deficient. Do you actually think women are incapable of realizing that if a guy she’s in a relationship with is having sex with her and she doesn’t like it, she can maybe say the word “stop” to make him stop?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 10:20 PM
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Look lady, if the woman does not want to have sex with the guy then all she has to do is say "stop" and only at that point it becomes rape, unless she is incapable of saying stop, or if the guy has her family held hostage or some shit (under duress). A guy telling a woman that he is going to breakup with her if she doesn't want to have sex with him is not coersion. In fact it's mind boggling how you somehow think that any given women is entitlted to a relationship with the guy. The guy is free t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:29 PM
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Being easy does not make women "used and disrespected". It just means fewer guys will want to be in a long term relationship with her, particularly those guys who don't have much experience with women. Experienced guys don't really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:09 PM
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So just because I don't want to be in a long term relationship with a woman automatically means I am disrespecting her?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 07:15 PM
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What do you mean by respect? Many men don’t want to be in long term relationships with women who are promiscuous. What does that have to do with respect?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 05:02 PM
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why would someone consent to something they don't find enjoyable could it be.... coercion? Bro what the actual fuck. Do you think most guys enjoy going out on fancy date nights with their wife or gf? Do they enjoy throwing a fancy wedding for their girlfriend when they finally get married? Do you think most parents enjoy driving their kids to school every day? Do you think most kids enjoy doing their school homework? The point you are making is completely baseless. People every single day do ton…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 02:55 AM
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In India they essentially do that through arranged marriages. In western countries we have betabuxxing where a woman decides to settle down in her late 20s and early 30s with a boring, stable guy who is likely to stick around and help her raise kids. IMO arranged marriage is a much better deal, but still a shitty one at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:52 AM
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in sex you need two consenting people. if one is acting like they're at a job they hate, then i can't imagine how having sex with them is not rape. can you? You seem to completely misunderstand what the word "consent" actually means. here is the definition: "to give permission for something to happen. " That's literally it. If a woman gives a guy permission to have sex with her, then she consents to having sex. It doesn't have anything to do with if she finds the sex enjoyable. I hate my job and…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:49 AM
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wouldn't this be rape? if she doesn't want sex and isn't participating in it? Lmao, you can be serious right? It's just like whining that you're being enslaved by your employer because you don't want to work at your job and only work there because you have bills to pay. what other purpose does a betabuxx serve if he has no money, has a boring personality and isn't sexually attractive? He has a stable job and stable personality which are good qualities in a man you want to help raise your kids. a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 10:34 PM
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You seem to have the wrong idea what the word betabuxx even means. A betabuxx is not a sugar daddy. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/betabux A betabuxx is a boring, stable, unattractive guy who a woman marries in her late 20s or early 30s, typically after she has had a lot of sexual experience with guys much more attractive than him. When this betabuxx enters a relationship with her, she does not find him attractive and typically only gives him boring starfish sex. The relationship is much more li…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 09:25 PM
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No I mean if you want to be a betabuxx, go for older women. If you want a genuine relationship, go for younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:54 PM
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Having a small but isn’t at all comparable to being short. The female equivalent to being a short man would be being obese or looking aged.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 09:18 AM
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It wouldn’t be on the side. It would be after them that she would be dating you. Who said she was fucking dudes while pursuing you. And if hand holding is important to you, that’s an okay thing to want. But we are talking sex here. Not any intimacy whatsoever. Just taking it slow. I don’t know many sluts who won’t hold your hand but I do know a few who need a few dates to feel comfortable. You’re taking this waaay to the extreme. You’ve dated a girl who fucked multiple guys on the first night bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:21 AM
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Or maybe she was using those guys for sex the ways one might use someone for money. Or how a man pumps and dumps. Maybe she sees you as a legitimate partner and it’s not that she isn’t comfortable, but she wants you to see her as a legitimate partner as well. Okay and as a man I find it completely disgusting that a woman who doesn't even want to hold my hand thinks she can pursue a serious relationship with me while fucking other dudes on the side. Amazing how you and other women justify it. Six…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:48 AM
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From my experience most older women say that, but it's actually a lie. An experienced woman claiming she "needs time to open up" actually just means she finds you sexually unattractive and that she's looking for a beta provider to settle down and start a family with. It's basically self-directed arranged marriage. I've dated such women before and always had a terrible experience. Even six months into dating, she didn't even want to kiss me. Now if I'm not gonna get sex or even a kiss either way,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 03:18 AM
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If she was young and a virgin I’d be more willing to respect her boundaries and wait until marriage to kiss or have sex if that’s what she wants. If she isn’t young or a virgin then I’d expect her to be very sexually attracted to me and start out the relationship casually where we at least make out or do hand stuff in the first few dates. If she claims that she takes time to open up or get comfortable, then I would just stop seeing her and find someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:05 AM
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Yeah considering you can’t even easily get booked at most LL clinics in the US. There is a long waiting list.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:00 AM
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Tons of guys go for limb lengthening surgery even though it costs $100K and only gives you 2-3 inches. You can’t even walk for six months and at the end of the day, your torso and arms are still small like a short guy. If guys could do this by going to the gym or doing some exercise they’d all be doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:57 AM
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Maybe it’s different where you live. Here in the SF Bay Area the guy is always better looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:48 AM
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They aren’t in relationships with ugly men tho. Ugly men are sexless and single.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:45 AM
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Yeah of course most people nowadays aren’t virgins anymore at the time of marriage. But this also means men aren’t willing to tolerate dating a woman who isn’t willing to have sex early. Hence you see so many women complaining that guys aren’t chivalrous anymore or that all guys want sex too early.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:43 AM
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But then why do you see so many ugly women in relationships when you go out in public…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:31 AM
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They would want to be in a relationship with her if she is willing to have sex. News flash but men don’t inherently value relationships the same way women do. That’s why they don’t watch romcoms or get obsessed with romance novels like women. On the other hand most people who watch porn are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:14 AM
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Lmao. Trust me if me could get taller by going to the gym we’d all be working out 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:07 AM
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A lot of men would be okay with that if the girl was young and a virgin. If she is older and had a ton of experience yet still wants you to treat her like a virgin… then no way Jose. I always noped the fuck out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:06 AM
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Not really. Older women looking for a betabuxx don’t even want a real relationship. They treat the entire dating process like a job interview. In fact i would argue that below average looking men should go for younger women if they want a real relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:03 AM
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What do you mean by chase? There is no chasing on dating apps. You either swipe right or you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 10:03 PM
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So you think the ugly guys out there swiping right on girls do not message the ugly girls they would hypothetically match with ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:53 PM
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Because they swipe right on them on dating apps, and most of my ugly male friends talk about how happy they’d be if they got a gf, even if she was ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:46 PM
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When I go outside I don’t see ugly men in relationships unless they are married and in their 30s. But I see tons of ugly women dating below average or average looking men. This means that men are willing to date down but women are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:38 PM
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When I go outside I don’t see ugly men in relationships unless they are married and in their 30s. But I see tons of ugly women dating below average or average looking men. This means that men are willing to date down but women are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:38 PM
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When I go outside I don’t see ugly men in relationships unless they are married and in their 30s. But I see tons of ugly women dating below average or average looking men. This means that men are willing to date down but women are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:38 PM
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Men are willing to also date ugly women which is why they swipe right on them on dating apps. What proof do you have that ugly women want to date ugly men unless they want a betabuxx?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:36 PM
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If that were true, ugly women would be matching with ugly men on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:31 PM
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Which is exactly why ugly women can get tons of matches on dating apps like Hinge but ugly men can’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:31 PM
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Old people are ugly, maybe with few exceptions like George Clooney.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:29 PM
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Yes they are when they are younger
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:28 PM
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Okay well to make it easier for you, ugly means conventionally unattractive. Ridiculous that we need to keep inventing new terms for the word ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:05 PM
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This is ridiculous. You’re telling me there is no objective component to beauty? How is it that one guy can get zero matches of tinder over the course of a year and another can get a thousand matches in just one week
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:55 PM
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No I’m but I’m below average like 4/10. Is it impossible to have ugly friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:52 PM
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Should ugly people not have friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:41 PM
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I have many ugly female friends who don’t have any lack of male attention. On the other hand my ugly male friends are all virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:31 PM
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Yeah for the most part that’s true until they get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:16 PM
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Most below average looking men find their female counterpart attractive and worthy of a relationship. Women do not feel the same way about their male counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 08:06 PM
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Yeah it depends on the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 09:45 PM
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Having many previous relationships or hookups
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 09:13 PM
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Do u have a link to that scene?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:08 AM
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Here’s the thing… 99% of guys are not okay dating a girl who is banging other guys on the side but won’t even let him hold her hand. This is extremely hurtful to most guys and the fact that you think it’s even remotely acceptable to make a guy spell this out in the beginning as though it’s the guy who has some unconventional request means you have zero empathy for the opposite sex. Jesus Christ. It’s only on Reddit I’ve seen people who are this far divorced from reality. And yeah of course I lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 10:17 PM
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It's not that I don't want to date an experienced woman. It's just that my standards for her will go way up compared to a girl who is a virgin or much less experienced. I would only date her if she wanted something casual and was very sexually attracted to me. But from my experience, more experienced women treat the entire dating process like a job interview and show zero sexual attraction towards me. For this reason I see it as a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:49 PM
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Not in the post. I mentioned that in a comment below the post, and people were replying to me telling me that since me and her did not yet agree on being exclusive, she was completely entitled to do whatever she wanted with other guys. And if she didn't slip up and accidentally talk about "a guy she hooked up 2 weeks ago in vegas", I probably never would have found out. And what do you mean by "entertaining other men"?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:18 PM
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Dude it was 100% gaslighting. This girl was literally having sex with random guys off Tinder while at the same time pursuing a relationship with me, having me meet her parents, and not even letting me hold her hand. People on Reddit thought the situation was completely acceptable since she didn't agree to being exclusive yet. In fact they made me look like the bad guy since I ended things with her once I found out about this. Like what the actual fuck... What is wrong with people on this site.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:47 PM
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Whenever I would ask for advice on this topic on Reddit people would just tell me bullshit like “every girl is different” and that I should be respectful of her boundaries if I value her as a person. How tf are we supposed to figure this out if people keep gaslighting us?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:25 PM
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Okay but think about it from a male perspective. You’re going on dates with an older chick thinking the fact that she is going on dates with you means she is physically attracted, only to find out six months later she sees you only as a beta provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:45 PM
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It is very age dependent. Younger women don’t date guys they aren’t physically attracted to. Older women often do because they are looking for a guy they can settle down with.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:07 PM
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If the dude is below 6/10 in SMV and the women are over the age of 25 looking for a beta provider to settle down with, then yeah they do wait. If the women are younger then they don’t wait. Younger women usually don’t even date guys they find unattractive in the first place. They are more impulsive and have much lower standards for looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:44 PM
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If the dude is below 6/10 in SMV and the women are over the age of 25 looking for a beta provider to settle down with, then yeah they do wait. If the women are younger then they don’t wait. Younger women usually don’t even date guys they find unattractive in the first place. They are more impulsive and have much lower standards for looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:43 PM
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Older women looking for a betabuxx, yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:37 PM
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I mean you can’t really say that given you’re a woman who dates straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:32 PM
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Many older guys (age 30+) complain about the same thing. They say dates with older women feel like job interviews devoid of any kind of flirting or romance. The older women just seem desperate to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:25 PM
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No she was 30. From my experience younger chicks don’t do this, only older ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:01 PM
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That’s completely wrong. I’ve had a girl accuse me of wanting to just hook up with her after I had dated her for six months, but I didn’t even kiss her during that time period. She accused me of this because she was just mad I asked her to text me first sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:06 PM
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What country though?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 11:13 PM
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What country do you live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 11:11 PM
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I mean in the US lady….
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 11:08 PM
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Jesus… just go out in public. How many young guys do you see with girlfriends who are short, ugly, and Indian?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 08:47 PM
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In this analogy, buying a Ferrari would be the equivalent of being sexually attractive to a woman. The poor person would be the bottom 50% of men in SMV (who are in the bottom 50% mainly due to things like height, race, facial attractiveness, and extroversion; the majority of which are not changeable in any meaningful way)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 08:31 PM
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And what’s wrong with being easy?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 07:20 AM
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Then why the heck is it so commonplace these days…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 06:27 PM
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Lol, guys only say that when the girl has double standards
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 06:02 PM
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Oh so having sex early means you’re immoral and don’t have standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:10 PM
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Cuz the dating apps set your age limits automatically for you. Usually it’s some arbitrary number like 25 or 30. Also, why would women set their filters to something that would decrease the SMV of their matches if they already get hundreds of likes per day? Plus women only swipe right on chads on there unless they’re looking for a beta provider. And those women looking for beta providers tend to be 25+ From my own personal history I’ve had terrible experiences dating women around my own age from…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 02:44 PM
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I mean that ain’t true… As a dude in your late 20s or early 30s it’s way easier to date a younger chick age 18-23 than one who is 28-40, unless you’re ready to settle down as a beta provider. Dating apps make it difficult tho since most women set their age filters lower. Men do not become unattractive with age the same way that women do. I don’t know a single dude who crushes on Megan Fox in 2023 the same way women crush on older handsome guys like Henry Cavill. Older women seem to be desperate …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:52 AM
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Hard to even believe that’s your thought process. Why the heck is it so hard to understand why a guy wouldn’t want to be in a relationship with a woman who finds him more sexually unattractive than her past partners. If you’ve slept with dudes in the past within 1 hour of getting to know them, why are you making your long term partner that you want to marry wait several months or years to have sex? What’s wrong with having sex with him early too like you did in the past? That’s happened to me se…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 04:14 AM
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Drugs aren’t people but drug dealers are. It boggles my mind how chicks in general have zero empathy for ugly dudes who can’t get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:45 PM
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I guess the issue is a lot of chicks lie about it or hide their past.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:32 PM
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How is this any different from protesting to decriminalize drugs
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:28 PM
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It’s 2024. There is no caste system. It is completely legal and socially acceptable for a hot guy to find some chick for ONS randomly from tinder. I don’t see how some ugly dude doing the same by providing some extra money to compensate for his looks is any different. Btw most guys I know who wouldn’t marry a prostitute are also unwilling to marry any chick who has gone for a ONS either. We see it the same way. Both activities involve having the chick smash with some random dude without requirin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 04:27 PM
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Lmao, every experienced chick I went on a date with treated it like a job interview and was looking for a beta provider to settle down with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 04:05 PM
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I’m serious… what is he being hypocritical about?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:32 PM
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What is he being hypocritical about?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 08:05 PM
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And what’s the point of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 07:20 PM
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You are right. I am dating a Korean girl who is 26 and doesn’t really look old at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:22 PM
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What do his looks have to do with this? He is merely pointing out something he noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:21 PM
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We literally get ZERO benefit from going out. The average height of guys I see in social venues is OVER 6’0. Less than 1% are under 5’7
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:09 AM
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Jesus Christ, I don’t know why this is so hard for you to understand. Women have every right to go out and put themselves in unnecessary danger. I just have zero empathy for them if they get assaulted because WE DONT GET TO ENJOY GOING OUT IN THE FIRST PLACE
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 02:52 AM
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The very fact that you think it’s appropriate to even say this shows that you have ZERO empathy for ugly men. Fuck off
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 12:32 AM
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No lady that IS how it works. If I get testicle cancer from keeping my phone in my pocket, I have zero right to complain about it to people living in 3rd world countries who have no access to smartphones in the first place. If I thought their quality of life was so much better than mine without a smartphone I’d be fighting tooth and nail to immigrate to their country. But I don’t… because I know that their quality of life is objectively worse than mine, despite all the downsides.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 12:31 AM
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Yes lady… I also saw a 7 car pileup on the freeway just three days ago where two people were burned alive when their old Chevy truck caught fire. Yet I still don’t tremble in fear every time I get in my car and drive in the freeway. I don’t even know why the hell you think something that’s so unlikely to occur is even relevant to this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 12:27 AM
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Yeah no shit they care about career when they’re looking for a betabuxx. But if you actually want a genuine relationship where the woman is physically attracted to you, younger women have way lower standards because they haven’t been riding the CC for the past 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 09:34 PM
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I won’t really care about that once we have kids, as long as she is putting some reasonable effort into maintaining her appearance (diet, exercise, makeup and skincare).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:40 AM
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The most important thing for me is for her to be sexually attracted to me and at least a 4/10 in looks, with no previous kids. Everything else is negotiable unless it’s something extreme that’s found in less than 2% of the population (criminal record, very low intelligence, major disabilities, psychotic, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:40 PM
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I am not only attracted to 22 year olds but they are the most physically attractive age of women. What do you mean by monogamy? I would marry a woman if she is my looksmatch or above. By looksmatch I mean a woman who is at least a 4/10 in looks because I’m a 4.5/10. On the other hand, I wouldn’t wife up a 2/10 or 3/10, but I would date her short term and would not cheat. I’d just dump her when I’m ready to settle down and have kids. Yes to your last question. As long as she is sexually attracted…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 11:34 PM
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But 22 year olds are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:25 PM
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Yeah and they also treat you like garbage when that happens. They treat dates like job interviews and want to make you wait months or even years to have sex. This is not a desirable arrangement to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 03:23 PM
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WTF it’s not as hard as you think. I’m a sub 5 guy aged 30 and I’ve been in two relationships with girls who were 7 and 5 years younger than me respectively. In fact getting into a relationship with younger women is easier because they don’t have ridiculously high standards like older women do when it comes to things like height, face, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:49 AM
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Just because men prefer to date younger women doesn’t mean women become valueless after 25. And it sure as hell doesn’t mean they’re going to abandon their wives as they age. This is a ridiculous assumption on your part. What it DOES mean is that if a guy is single, he will generally prefer to start a relationship with a younger woman than an older one. The reason is analogous to adoptive parents preferring to adopt a small baby rather than a grown ass teenager. The fact that they’d rather adopt…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:46 AM
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Again… Men do NOT operate like women. We do not value the same things as women. You completely fail to understand that most relationships are transactional. Women value the romance aspect. Men value the sex. If a woman we were in a relationship with just wanted to have sex with us, but didn’t care for any of the romantic things like fancy date nights, flowers, and long term commitment, we would be extremely happy. The same does NOT apply to women. A woman in the same situation would feel extreme…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:22 AM
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You are very delusional. In case you haven’t noticed, at least 90% of Men do NOT operate this way. Only women do. As men, we feel disgusted at the idea of marrying a woman who is not sexually attracted to us, unless she is a virgin. Since most women are not virgins anymore, the only way we would feel satisfied in a marriage is if the woman is sexually attracted to us, especially if she is more sexually attracted to us than any other guy she has had sex with before (the more sexually attracted sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 11:28 AM
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Hell yeah dude. As a below average looking guy who is 5'8 - 5'9, I've had nothing but terrible experiences on dating apps with only 2 exceptions. In other words I've gone on 1st dates with maybe 40 different women. And only 2 of them were remotely positive interactions. I match with these chicks who claim they're looking for a "relationship". Yet when I meet up with them, it's all business. They treat the whole thing like a job interview. No flirting, no fun, nothing. Just straight to business. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 10:25 PM
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Female logic. When it comes to incels they can somehow “sense” the misogyny. But when these chadlites joke about women being whores women just laugh it off as a joke. One of my friends even showed me his bumble profile and I was shocked at the disgusting shit he would say to women, who would still agree to meet up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 07:42 PM
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I have friends who are chadlites and they hate women more than any incels do. They literally think of them as the scum of the earth. Even I felt disgusted by what they were saying. But I felt even more disgusted to see women throwing themselves at those guys on dating apps. Made me realize the whole narrative we've been fed since childhood is BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:31 AM
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Yeah of course we are going to complain about hookup culture if we are not participating in it. What the fuck else did you expect us to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:27 AM
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I got an online girlfriend through alcohol. I was drunk and just started trolling the shit out of her and apparently she liked it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:24 AM
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100% yes they do. In fact the very first girl I met with from Bumble was happily going on dates with me, pretending to be a good catholic girl while at the same time fucking other dudes from Tinder on the side. I didn't find out until she accidentally blurted it out on the final date (I just stopped seeing her afterwards). I even made a post about it here (this was before I knew she was fucking other guys): https://old.reddit.com/r/SouthAsianMasculinity/comments/xa0sgz/should_i_continue_seeing_t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:22 AM
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I’ve literally never once in my life seen a 40 year old woman who looks better than her 20 year old self. I noticed most of the people who think older women are very attractive are other females.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:33 AM
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Are you serious? men have a much higher sex drive than women… I thought that was common knowledge I find it way more strange that someone would spend $120,000 on a new BMW instead of $5K on a used Honda accord, when both of them are going to be stuck in the same traffic jams. Or why someone would spend $5,000 on a trip to Paris just to see the Eiffel Tower.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 07:06 AM
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Does that also mean I can change my mind one day and start cheating on my wife if I feel like it? It’s my choice. She can just divorce me then like a civilized person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:50 AM
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Cuz most chicks on Reddit usually have female avatars and feminine sounding usernames. Also the way you write seems more like the way a guy would.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:38 AM
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And marrying a guy you have no intention of ever having sex with is not bad ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:36 AM
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I did that before a few times. But most of them have bad hygiene (bad smell and bad breath) I’m not comfortable kissing them. Maybe some high end ones don’t have hygiene issues but they charge something like $800 for a half hour. One time I did have sex with a local girl I met off Reddit and she didn’t have any hygiene issues. But it was a one-time thing. Tbh the India trip was better than anything I ever experienced in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:34 AM
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Whoever said anything about forcing? maybe she should not have married a guy she doesn’t ever wanna have sex with, like a civilized person 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:26 AM
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She didn’t just kiss me. She also did some sexual stuff (bj’s hj’s etc) with me but no PiV. But I spent around $2K I think. Still way better than wasting time with dating apps in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:23 AM
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Your avatar and name looks like a man’s. That why I thought u were
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:18 AM
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Yeah. It was a fun trip tbh. she treated me way better than any chick I met in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:17 AM
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Really? So I could be married to a girl and she can refuse to ever have sex with me and I am obligated to treat her the same way I would if she was having sex? Why don’t you ask that same question on any normal subreddit and see how people respond 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:14 AM
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Ok I think I know the answer now 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:57 AM
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You also didn’t answer my question. Are you a man or a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:04 AM
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Exclusivity doesn’t matter. Defending this type of behavior is something deranged psychopathic people would do. It’s shocking to me how people can even rationalize this. Let’s say I have a friend, and I lent him some money whenever he was in need when no one else would help him. Then I go to his house with some mutual friends for dinner. At the dinner, my friend serves me some shitty leftover stew, while he serves his other deadbeat friends a fancy four course meal that took him 6 hours to prepa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:04 AM
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Also to answer your question I am in the US. I travelled overseas to India to meet my FWB in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 03:14 AM
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Honestly at this point you’re starting to appear deranged. you seriously think it’s ok for a chick to be dating a guy who she won’t even want to hold hands with, yet at the same time she is having casual sex with other guys from Tinder on the side? This is definitely not a normal sentiment. And you literally just glossed over it like it’s no big deal. Just curious but are you a woman? Earlier I thought you were male, but I have never met a man with these beliefs before.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 03:11 AM
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The point here is that you’re taking your anecdotal experience (which can’t be hardly any experience since you just started dating) and assume that these women did something devious or cruel to you. But clearly you are the one in the wrong here. If you don’t want to be with someone who is looking to get married, then you don’t date those people. Especially if they tell you on the first date. Dude I've been on multiple dates with 5 chicks from dating apps. And on first dates with probably 30 diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 12:33 AM
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At this point you're breaking away from the original context. The poster was asking what are our "icks" when it comes to dating. I simply said that a woman asking how I felt about marriage on the first date was a huge red flag and an ick. I even gave you my reason. Every single time I would start dating those women, they always made dating a terrible experience. They took the fun out of it. Forget about sex, they did not even want to flirt with me or let me hold their hand. It felt more like a j…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:45 PM
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There is a huge chunk of the population of young people who simply does not go out and partake in social interaction. You don't see these people at malls, restaurants, movie theaters, bars, or other social venues. Those are the people who are complaining online. I will give you one example, when I go to Best Buy, the average young male height is around 5'8 - 5'9 and kind of fat and ugly. They are never there with a girlfriend. On the other hand, when I go to places like Chipotle, the mall, or mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:45 PM
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If you're conventionally attractive, your experience is irrelevant to my point. I was talking about below average looking or ugly women. Conventionally attractive women don't have this problem because they can find men who are attractive and also willing to commit. On the other hand, ugly women run into the issue where all the men who are willing to commit to them are unattractive, and all the men who are attractive will sleep with them, but won't commit to marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:34 PM
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These women are telling you up front that they’re looking for a long term relationship, not a hook up. No. It's signalling to me they want to perpetually "date" until I agree to marry them. With every girl who brought up marriage on the first date, the whole process of dating was boring and not fun. I got the feeling that they want to skip the whole dating and relationship process or treat it just like a formality before getting married. This way nobody is wasting their time. This is what adults…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:16 PM
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Bruh... it's simple. Normal dating is where a guy and a girl meet eachother and they hit it off because they find eachother attractive. They flirt with and tease eachother, kiss, have sex, and enter into a relationship. After being with eachother for some time, they might decide to get married if they are compatible long-term and see themselves building a future together and starting a family. Whatever I've encountered was the complete opposite. I would meet with girls and on the very first date…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:33 AM
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I do spend most my dates enjoying time handholding and stuff. I guess you did misinterpret it. My "ick" was not referring to reasonable women like you. You may not be aware, but there is a huge chunk of the female population who think it's appropriate to conduct dating like a job interview, and think that doing so will somehow make a guy more likely to commit to you. I don't think they are aware at how much of a turn-off it is for guys. From our perspective, it feels kind of like going to visit …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:38 AM
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What the... are you for real? I mean... do you think it's totally fine for a girl to keep going on over 20 dates with a guy for 6 months... refuse to let him flirt, hold her hand or have any kind of physical contact during this timeframe. And just cuz he sends you one text saying it would be nice if you texted him first, you accuse him of only wanting a hookup? You don't think it's wrong to waste people's time and emotional energy like that? Like I was seriously getting emotionally invested with…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 08:11 AM
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she was very into me physically from the start. Yeah... that's the whole point. You're basically agreeing with everything I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 08:03 AM
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To each to their own. Most women want commitment so it's better for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:59 AM
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It’s not even sex… it’s doing at least something to at least signal to the me you find me attractive (hand holding, hugging, flirting, kissing, etc). Going on multiple dates with me and asking nothing but about questions my career, family, and future plans, and acting like I have Ebola if I try to hold your hand after date number 6 does not at all signal to me that you find me attractive. It just tells me you’re looking to settle down with a beta provider. This may have been somewhat acceptable …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:58 AM
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They are two separate things, but my experience has always been that women who start the conversation by asking about things like marriage are not attracted to me. They would not let me flirt with them even if after 6 months of dating. Huge red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:37 AM
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Below average looking women often do this because they cannot find a guy who they are attracted to who also wants to marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:22 AM
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/r/deadbedrooms would tells me otherwise. Tons of guys on there who are stuck in sexless marriages. Strange that you think a girl who won’t let me flirt or hold her hand in the dating stage will magically start flirting after we are married. I’ve never experienced a situation where a girl who brought up commitment in the very beginning would ever let me flirt with her. Like she expected we keep things entirely platonic before marriage. What a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:16 AM
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And I don’t not going to marry a girl unless we have sexual compatibility. If a girl feels like she would be “used” if she flirts with me before we are married then it’s a huge red flag and I want nothing to do with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:59 AM
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It has been my only experience so far with girls I’ve met with from dating apps. About 5 times. With the first girl, I went on 7 dates two months in and even by then she wouldn’t let me flirt with her or hold her hand. If I tried to flirt she would steer the conversation in a more platonic direction. On the fifth date she wanted me to meet her parents when they came to pick her up from the train station, so I thought she liked me, but that she was just uncomfortable with physical touch because s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:52 AM
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If it’s always worked for you, more power to you. For me it’s a turn off because it signals to me that the girl is not physically attracted to me and just wants someone to settle down and have kids with after she’s already had her fun with other guys
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:28 AM
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For me... asking about marriage or commitment on the first few dates before even any flirting takes place. Huge ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:27 AM
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Maybe 95% then… same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:09 PM
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I’ve found that ugly women living in other countries are usually more reasonable in their expectations from a guy. With American women I’ve only had negative experiences (or neutral at best).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 12:47 PM
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No, ugly women usually think they deserve guys who are 5/10 or 6/10. Ugly women will however go on dates with ugly guys because they like the free attention. It is a woman’s fantasy to have a guy do all the relationshippy and romantic things for her without him forcing her to do any sexual things in return. I was a dumbass at the and actually believed the advice that people were giving me on subreddits like incelexit. They told me there is no normal timeframe for having sex or intimacy, and that…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 12:17 PM
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I can’t label 99% of women as crap people if they all treat me like shit. My genetics are the problem and not the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 03:48 AM
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You literally have no clue how badly ugly guys are treated in relationships. This is the reason people are downvoting you. No, it’s not normal for a girl to treat a 4.5/10 guy like this. It IS normal for a girl to treat a 6/10 or 7/10 guy like this. The way a guy is treated in a relationship has everything to do with his face, height, and race, but very little to do with how he treats the woman. Girls like my GF who will give an ugly guy like me the chad treatment are more rare than unicorns.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 03:38 AM
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I am a guy and I feel a natural desire to do these things for a girl I am in love with, provided that either one of these two criteria are met. 1) she is very sexually attracted to me OR 2) a virgin Doing these things for a girl that I love and seeing how happy it makes her, makes me feel happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 02:29 AM
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